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2019-2023 Arkansas High School Cross Country/Track and Field

Started by RATTLER43, January 10, 2019, 11:52:00 am

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RATTLER43

That was a nice break.  We tried to get games moved to an earlier start or rescheduled, but it was senior night for Hackett, plus they had travel ball of some sort the next day and this week's slate was full for coaches due to junior high tourney.  Just part of the dynamics with indoor state happening during basketball season.   

Congratulations to Yellville-Summit though!  I am sure the athletes were thrilled.

beach bum

Camren Fischer yesterday inked with Princeton. That's a huge honor to end up going to a school like that with such a high academic history. He said he was probably headed down the street to the U of A  until over Christmas Break he got a letter in the mail saying he was academically accepted into Princeton. Not a shabby place to run either considering they finished 22nd as a team at Cross Country nationals in November, even ahead of the Razorbacks. I hope he goes on to have some serious success representing the state and dominates the Ivy League as he becomes an upperclassmen.

RATTLER43


sevenof400


InYoGrill

Quote from: Almatrackster on February 04, 2019, 12:57:21 pm
I have come to appreciate Vilonia's athletic department more and more as years have gone on. I think they are trying to find a fit in football and have done a good job building up their basketball program. That stacked on top of their awesome spring sports gives them possibly the best athletic program in the 5A West.

Very nice opinion Trackster. When you have the type of coaches that we have leading our track programs, it is not as surprising to see how our accomplishments keep repeating consistently. Coach Stout and Coach Steward have been around coaching track for 10+ years I believe. I sat in the bleachers when Coach Stout first came to V and spoke to parents about his philosophy when my oldest was in 8th grade (2007 I think). I knew right t here that he would have a lasting effect on my son and any part of the athletic program he was a part of. Kids absolutely buy into his philosophy of being your best in all things. Newer AD from Conway is a breath of fresh air and is building the athletic program very well. I also see V continually improving in football and bball. Girls sports are all competitive as well. If you were a kid in V why wouldnt you want to play some kind of sport, band, or something. Town is a blip on the map and nothing to do outside of school.  ;D

YSpanther

Quote from: InYoGrill on February 09, 2019, 02:00:45 pm
Very nice opinion Trackster. When you have the type of coaches that we have leading our track programs, it is not as surprising to see how our accomplishments keep repeating consistently. Coach Stout and Coach Steward have been around coaching track for 10+ years I believe. I sat in the bleachers when Coach Stout first came to V and spoke to parents about his philosophy when my oldest was in 8th grade (2007 I think). I knew right t here that he would have a lasting effect on my son and any part of the athletic program he was a part of. Kids absolutely buy into his philosophy of being your best in all things. Newer AD from Conway is a breath of fresh air and is building the athletic program very well. I also see V continually improving in football and bball. Girls sports are all competitive as well. If you were a kid in V why wouldnt you want to play some kind of sport, band, or something. Town is a blip on the map and nothing to do outside of school.  ;D
I know Coach Steward from college and he and his family are top notch.  Kids like working for coaches that believe in them and encourage them.

Rida4Life

Quote from: RATTLER43 on February 02, 2019, 08:35:22 pm
Earle is stacked. Junction City is always great.  We will be there. 

Maybe.   But Foreman is loaded, Quitman looks to have one more good year, Bigelow has the most talent, Danville is stacked, and my girls and Cotter are dark horses. But Melbourne is the favorite in my mind's eye. 

I would add Parkers Chapel as a darkhorse in the girls this year.  They may not be able to score enough points in the sprints and field events to win but from what I saw last year they should be among the best in the distance stuff.
Our boys had a great run but will probably have to rebuild this year.  Girls look like it should be their turn to make a run at it.
Coach has done a good job building the program from basically nothing.
Rumor is going around that there might be some facilities upgrades coming as well.

RATTLER43

I like it.  The more the better.  Adding PC to the girls' list is great.  If it spreads the points out, then you have the makings for a great state meet.

I love it when it comes down to the last few events and especially the mile relay to win it all!!  My boys had won the mile relay over Junction City in 2012 to win it all and my girls in 2014 beat Magnet Cove in the mile relay to win it all.  There is just something special about it when that happens and all is riding on that final event!  Of course, it is not so sweet when you are on the other end (my 2011 group against Augusta!).  But all are great memories upon reflection.

kman3434

Hello All, I've been a lurker for years and finally decided to post. I just wanted to say how impressed I am with the young man Kennedy Lightner out of North Little Rock. This young man is likely one of the best sprinters to come out of the state of arkansas. He has gone a wind legal 21.01 in the 200m, 10.4 in the 100m and 47 in the 400m. I'm just surprised not many have been talking about him. I hope he stays healthy and has a great year

RATTLER43

Agreed.  I think I read he was ranked 11th in the nation.  Impressive indeed.   

by-stander


sevenof400

Quote from: by-stander on February 28, 2019, 11:12:02 pm
4A Shot Put, who are the top throwers?

By-Stander,

I know it is early so there will not be any current stats for this year, but in the meantime I suggest you look at LAST year's numbers...

AT does a lot of work in putting these together and you can find them at:
http://www.fearlessfriday.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=155636.0

RATTLER43

ar.milesplit.com  will keep results and you can look there as a resource as well.


Scorpius

Quote from: by-stander on February 28, 2019, 11:12:02 pm
4A Shot Put, who are the top throwers?

4A shot put should run through Clarksville, Gravette, or DeQueen.

Michael Powell for Clarksville is the defending 5A state champion with a pb and state title winning throw of 50-6. He threw a 50 even in his first meet tonight, so he should continue to improve.

Aidan Patton of Gravette placed 3rd last year in the 4A state meet with a throw of 47-5. The two who placed above him graduated and he set a new pb of 52-11 tonight by adding over 2 feet from his previous best last week. If this trend continues he will be the man to beat in the 4A.

Malik Beasley of DeQueen, with a pb tonight of 49-9, has shown significant improvement from last year and should continue to get better as the year progresses.

All three of these athletes have surpassed the state qualifying mark of 47-3, so we will for sure see them come April and May, barring any injuries or other set backs.

These are the early contenders, but someone else could jump into the mix with a good throw.

by-stander

March 15, 2019, 12:31:37 am #64 Last Edit: March 15, 2019, 12:33:31 am by by-stander
Rob Morrow from Highland placed 4th at the state meet last year, threw 50'6" at the Peco Relays in Pocahontas Thursday

Scorpius

Good deal. It's always a plus to have a bunch of big throwers, it makes for an interesting and competitive state meet. Hopefully ar mile split updates soon and we can get a better idea of where everyone is.

beach bum

Thanks for some info guys on some throwing events. I follow the distance runners the most so sometimes I get out of the loop especially on throws and jumps so your input is appreciated. Keep us updated throughout the season.

RATTLER43

Upcoming meets at Mansfield, Alma, and Booneville!!!  So exciting to get back to it.
Class 2A looks to be competitive with Earle, Magazine, Junction City, Gurdon, and Lafayette County among the front runners in boys (Earle is defending champion by a large margin)
and Melbourne, Foreman, Magazine, Quitman, Cotter, and Bigelow in girls.   
Going to be a great state meet this year.
Who else looks to be in the mix for 2A this year?

YSpanther

Yellville-Summit is pretty decent.  They have some 9th grade girls that will be very solid in the future. Both teams have been coming in 2nd through 4th in meets featuring Pea Ridge and Harrison and Mountain Home, etc.  Not predicting championships or anything, but think several individuals can place at state.

RATTLER43

That, along with indoor results, is a good starting point and something to build upon.

Track junkie

New to the forum but thought this was worth sharing. My guy Camren Fischer raced in the Arcadia 3200m invitational last night and finished 10th in a time of 8:55:04. What a race and atmosphere that meet provides for High School Track. Wow!! Proud of you Cam!  Tim
http://www.rtspt.com/events/arcadia/2019/190405F032.htm

Arcadia Invitational - 4/5/2019 to 4/6/2019

                      Arcadia High School

Event 34  Men 3200 Meter Run Invitational
===============================================================
    Comp#  Name                Year School                  Finals
===============================================================
Finals
  1 #2024 Nico Young          11 Newbury Park           8:40.00
  2 #3378 Cole Sprout         11 Valor Christian        8:40.73
  3 #1350 Drew Bosley         12 Homestead              8:49.28
  4 #3156 Charles Hicks       12 The Bolles School      8:49.62
  5 #2463 Cole Bullock        12 Red Bank               8:50.70
  6 #1337 Leo Daschbach       11 Highland               8:51.09
  7 #2516 Liam Anderson       12 Redwood NC             8:51.89
  8 #146 Evan Holland         11 Ashland                8:51.93
  9 #1 Colin Baker            12 Academic Magnet        8:54.68
10 #1056 Camren Fischer      12 Fayetteville           8:55.04
11 #1972 Joe Waskom          12 Mount Si               8:56.52
12 #1809 Caleb Easton        12 Middleton              8:57.67
13 #2917 Thomas Boyden       11 Skyline                8:57.79
14 #1452 Kashon Harrison     12 Kirtland Central       8:58.90
15 #1420 Matt Strangio       11 Jesuit                 9:00.58
16 #292 Hunter Appleton      12 Brother Martin         9:01.49
17 #2645 Kevin Ramos         12 Rubidoux               9:09.88
18 #3082 Marcus Mota         12 Stockdale              9:11.50
19 #1789 Zane Fodge          12 McMinnville            9:11.55
20 #1722 Tommy Brady         12 Maine South            9:11.62
21 #1432 Peter Herold        12 Jserra                 9:11.67
22 #3074 Asefa Wetzel        12 Star Valley            9:12.49
23 #2041 Cruz Culpepper      11 Niwot                  9:12.79
24 #2267 Austin Mathews      12 Paul Laurenc           9:13.64
25 #971 Henry Chapman        12 East Troy              9:14.25
26 #3638 Luke Houser         12 Woodinville            9:15.54
27 #1879 Jonathan Velasco    12 Mission Hills          9:18.47
28 #1704 Camden Gilmore      12 Loyola Blakefield      9:20.04
29 #928 Jack Roberts         12 Downers Grove North    9:26.07
30 #143 Noah Hibbard         12 Arroyo SS              9:27.81
31 #2964 Grant Gardner       12 Springville            9:34.84
32 #1119 Riley McDowell      12 Glacier Peak           9:41.12
33 #259 Tyler Cushing        11 Bolingbrook           10:01.19

beach bum

I assume that 8:55 is his first time under 9 in the 3200m? That's unbelievable and the stuff you see from those stud distance guys in high school out West, in the eastern US, or great lakes area where the best distance runners usually are

beach bum

Even if you convert that 3200 to a true 2 mile which just about 15m further that still converts to a sub 9 two mile at about 8:58 or 8:59 .... I knew that young man had more in him when he got pushed against the who's who out there in the 3200m

RATTLER43


beach bum

Finally watched the race. He looked almost back in 20th almost in last at the mile mark and moved his way up about 10 spots in the second half of the race. Looks like he not only ran tough, but a smart race! I see some Ivy League titles in that young mans future

Track junkie

His strategy was to go out not with lead pack but to lay back and hit his splits of 67. He was surprised how fast the pack went out in first 200 and reacted a little late to avoid the back of the pack. He stuck with his plan and hit his splits and slowly worked his way back thru the pack and accomplished his goal which was to be competitive and break 9:00 mins. Up next he wants to go after the 4:10 1600m mark.


RATTLER43


beach bum

April 13, 2019, 10:12:46 pm #77 Last Edit: April 13, 2019, 10:16:49 pm by beach bum
Speaking of distance ... I have a question for you Rattler as well as Trackster from his running day experiences. With a runner that is specifically a 2 mile specialist/good 5K guy in the fall and a true blue distance guy(maybe drops down to the mile at shortest of distance).... How often do you have that runner drop down to anaerobic for workouts during a spring season? I always find that a delicate line to toe with runners as far as you don't want to peak them too early, plateau them out, or just burn them out between a congested racing schedule with the shortened season length which is just a bummer. I know someone can handle threshold pace stuff a lot more frequently which I like to use a lot more and not burn out like playing with fire with v02 max, or even more specifically anaerobic!

Just a thought I have been having and I always like to hear how others feel on that issue! I know thats a loaded question cause there are so many variables you have to consider there like whether its boys or girls, the persons age and running history, and the overall mileage base they have under them that I know you can't have an overall lump answer that works for every runner. I find myself probably on too much of the cautious end and probably should use vO2 and anaerobic stuff more. I can be a bit stubborn and lean too much on volume sometimes for sure!

RATTLER43

April 16, 2019, 08:33:12 pm #78 Last Edit: April 16, 2019, 08:59:55 pm by RATTLER43
I must apologize.  In my 30+ years, I have had few "true" distance runners.  If you can imagine, mine are typically playing football and/or basketball and we have one maybe two cycles in which to work with them.  In the last decade, the AAA has cut us down to basically a 10-week season so I have to work within those parameters.  With that said, it varies depending on the athlete.  Let me go into a little detail for me.   If I have a kid who is in great condition as a 7th grader and he runs for me the entire 6 years, I have him doing higher mileage base building if he is willing. Intervals with even longer runs on weekends. It includes lots of hills as well.  It must be on his own and I have to have faith he is doing it.  Then when I actually get the kids for track in February, I will do speed work once a week in short bursts of repeats (distances of repeats can vary).  I might even use the meet days as some speed work if I put my distance runner in one distance race and some short distance races as well.   If I only get the athlete for the spring, then I will use more speed work just to get the "quick" distance speed of VOmax training by doing mileage for about 3 or 4 weeks then going alternate days between mileage and speed work.  I am old school and believe in mileage. (Know that I am careful with my athletes so as not to have overuse injuries.)    But, as an example that one style does not fit all, Jasper had a great distance group years ago under the tutelage of Coach Yeager.  I was told that one runner was a high mileage guy  (I think it was Yeager) and the other a speed guy (I think that was J. Purvis).  Both worked out well and were great distance runners.   Personally, I like a lot of base/mileage but use what I have when I have them to achieve my best results with that athlete. Travis Williams and Chris McCleod were my best distance runners.  Travis did lower mileage (35 miles a week) with more "speed" work.  Chris did high mileage mornings and evenings (70+ miles a week).  Both were in the 16s for 5K.   Chris did it as a freshman and Travis as a senior. (Travis got down in low 10s for 3200m as a senior and Chris got into high 10s as a freshman.) Chris started high mileage young.   Travis never really did high mileage and only began "training" as a sophomore.  I also have to concern myself with overuse injuries and even burnout (I've only had one burn out).  Finally, you have to know that in my career, proms, Beta, FFA, jobs, etc. have cut into what I would have them do.  Great kids, but I encourage them in things outside of running.  At my small school, we don't have many "true" distance runners come through.

I hope this rambling makes any sense.

In short, I prefer much mileage with true distance runners. We drop down once per week if during 10-week spring season.

groundhawg

At one point, I'd asked about the combining of 5A/6A state and how events would be handled. AAA website has this:

2019 6A/5A State Track Meet
Tentative Schedule
Lake Hamilton HS
Field Event Schedule:
9:00 5A Girls Long Jump Discus Pole Vault
        6A Boys High Jump Triple Jump Shot
10:45 6A Girls Long Jump Discus Pole Vault
         5A Boys High Jump Triple Jump Shot
12:30 5A Girls High Jump Triple Jump Shot
         6A Boys Long Jump Discus Pole Vault
2:15 6A Girls High Jump Triple Jump Shot
        5A Boys Long Jump Discus Pole Vault

Running Event Schedule:
11:00: 4x800 Relays
11:00: 5A Girls 4x800 Relay
11:15: 6A Girls 4x800 Relay
11:30: 5A Boys 4x800 Relay
11:45: 6A Boys 4x800 Relay

All Running events will be in this order: 5A girls, 6A girls, 5A boys, 6A boys.
4:00: 100/110 Hurdles
4:40: 100 Dash
5:10: 1600 Run
5:35: 4x100 Relay
6:00: 400 Dash
6:20: 300 Hurdles
7:00: 800 Run
7:20: 200 Dash
7:50: 3200 Run
8:50: 4x400 Relay
9:30: Meet Concludes

RATTLER43

That is how we did combined Class 1A and 2A for a couple of years with one big exception:  we ran the Class 1A 3200m run races before any other events in the morning.

AT

Sorry I haven't posted in awhile, I'm working on updating all my performance lists, but Rattler, your coaching job this year has been outstanding...you were right, you guys have a real shot at this...I'll post more later.

2A Boys:

Magazine, LC, CHG, Gurdon, Foreman are going to all make noise.

RATTLER43

Great group of kids.  And we look to be even better next year.   I'm so excited but trying to stay on an even keel.  Earle is the team to beat but my kids have put in the work.  Just a matter of getting them all to state.   No matter what, the kids have done what it takes to put themselves in position to make a run.  I could not be more proud!!

Butch_Cassidy

I can promise you this Earle wont back down from a challenge!!!!!!

RATTLER43

No doubt.  They remind me of the great Augusta teams of 2010 and 2011.   
Again:  Earle is the team to beat. 

Rida4Life

Rattler43, Lafayette County looked really strong at the 8AA meet yesterday.  They will be a tough out.

On the Girls side Parkers Chapel and Bearden had an epic shootout.  Chapel came out on top and got a bunch of events qualified, including a few surprises. 
Both could have a say in the outcome of the Girls AA meet.


YSpanther

Yellville-Summit ran away with the 1AA yesterday, winning by over 100 points in boys and girls, but because our region isn't that competitive, not a huge number have qualified for state.


RATTLER43

I believe it is Melbourne's to lose. They have so much talent.   There are about 5 or 6 battling for second.  But, that is on paper.  Championships are won by competitors.

Earle is the odds on favorite on the boys' side.  Lafayette County, Gurdon, Foreman, and Magazine look to make some noise as well.  I love track and I love competition!!

Let the championships begin!!

beach bum

Did you have a young man go 2nd today rattler in the high jump? Thats amazing. It appeared the small schools dominated that event on the boys side. Results are up as far place, but i still can not find marks/time/etc. for the events

RATTLER43

Not mine.  Prom and MOC on same date. 

beach bum

I know a few places had early graduations this weekend so I know that makes MOC very sporadic year to year as far as who can show up

RATTLER43

We moved our graduation to a later date to avoid any spring sports.  But prom got my three state Champions this year. 

Hogman2018

Quote from: beach bum on May 11, 2019, 06:42:59 pm
Did you have a young man go 2nd today rattler in the high jump? Thats amazing. It appeared the small schools dominated that event on the boys side. Results are up as far place, but i still can not find marks/time/etc. for the events
How did the small schools dominate the HJ??

beach bum

May 13, 2019, 09:21:31 pm #93 Last Edit: May 13, 2019, 09:30:52 pm by beach bum
Quote from: Hogman2018 on May 13, 2019, 08:22:22 pm
How did the small schools dominate the HJ??

Did you not read the part "appeared" ... I specifically wrote that cause I knew it didn't look right. Blame milesplit cause thats what they prematurely showed. I wasn't even going to respond to you cause I know you are just wired to argue but I went against my best judgment and responded to you.

Aren't you lost anyway and supposed to be on the football boards complaining about LR Christian or PA?

RATTLER43

The Fayetteville distance runner is possibly the standout performer of the year.  The Bentonville thrower, the LH and TC vaulters, the Fayetteville prodigy, and the RussVegas high jumper had incredible performances on the boys' side. The NLR sprinter is also great.
Was a great year for T&F.   

Hogman2018

Quote from: beach bum on May 13, 2019, 09:21:31 pm
Did you not read the part "appeared" ... I specifically wrote that cause I knew it didn't look right. Blame milesplit cause thats what they prematurely showed. I wasn't even going to respond to you cause I know you are just wired to argue but I went against my best judgment and responded to you.

Aren't you lost anyway and supposed to be on the football boards complaining about LR Christian or PA?
Next time I will ask you to post on this site! Just responding to your post that didn't make any sense! You are not the only one on here that knows track and yes I HATE PA and LRC!!

Track junkie

Quote from: RATTLER43 on May 14, 2019, 11:50:04 am
The Fayetteville distance runner is possibly the standout performer of the year.  The Bentonville thrower, the LH and TC vaulters, the Fayetteville prodigy, and the RussVegas high jumper had incredible performances on the boys' side. The NLR sprinter is also great.
Was a great year for T&F.

Rattler43, I agree it was an outstanding year in T&F in 2019. NLR's Lightner lite up the track, LH's Farmer was outstanding in both the PV & Decathlon, the Bentonville athletes Bryant Parlin set an all- time mark at the Kansas Relays for an Arkansan in the the discus & on the girls side Laney Quandt I believe is only the 4th girl in the state of Arkansas to break the 5 minute barrier in the 1600m. She also won the distance triple crown in the 6A winning the 800,1600,3200 and anchoring the 4x800m. Fayetteville Freshman Isaiah Santegna will be one to watch!  Cam Fischer had an outstanding year as well winning the Triple crown the the distance events for the 2nd year in a row and setting a 6A State record in the 3200m and a MOC record in the 1600m and being the first AR HS runner to run under a 9 minute 3200m. I do have to voice my disappointment at the 5A/6A State Meet and the MOC not having an electronic time clock set up at the meet. To have LH host 2 meets of this magnitude and not have a time clock set up for athletes to see an electronic timing clock at the start/finish line is a disservice to the student athletes that participated in those meets. In addition I would hope that in the future the AAA mandates that a time clock being utilized at all classification States meets and that a results scored board be used as well. It was quite disappointing to see athletes yell to their coaches and parents asking for their times after they finished their race.  :(

RATTLER43


RATTLER43

I'll try to bring the last part up at our T&F Advisory meeting.   

RATTLER43

I threw the Russellville high jumper in, but was glad to see so many over 6'6" this year.  HJ has been down for awhile now.  Was nice to see a slight return for this year. 

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