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1-3A in 2019
« on: December 08, 2018, 06:05:37 pm »
First off, let's say congrats to Booneville and their special group of seniors. And their whole team in general for winning the title today. It's not always easy being the favorite at the beginning of the year and actually living up to that hype. The Bearcats did just that with an utterly dominating performance today. You Booneville posters can join this conversation in a few days or so cause you all soak that title up and this conversation right now can wait while you all cherish that title. The Lamar & Charleston posters are plentiful and you all can chime in. Below are some of my thoughts and not really even rankings in any order cause I think most know this is going to be a crazy competitive conference from 1-6 seeds next year. Not saying it will be the best conference next season, but merely that there should be very close games all season long from almost top to bottom. I am not sure someone will go undefeated in league play how competitive it will be. To do so is probably going to take a team winning all 3 or 4 close games they play cause it will take a lot of good bounces to see someone go 7-0 in the conference. There is also going to be a pretty decent team miss the playoffs which is not usually the case in the world of 5 teams get in the playoffs, however again I think that speaks to the depth we will see.


Booneville- This senior class is literally the definition of unreplaceable in just one years time for anyone that knows the slightest about small town football cause they were that good. I am sure in the coming years soon another class will come through cause we are talking about Booneville aren't we and their tradition? I may be stubbornly saying this, but I still will see them as the favorite until someone beats them next year. Because of that tradition we all know even if Booneville falls back to the pack a little that coaching, toughness, and tradition will see them through at least a decent season. Their JH did not win the conference in JH, but was solid. I imagine they'll have to balance their starters more between the grades next year as opposed to being so senior heavy this year. They'll need fresh faces to step in and get it done.

Lamar- The reason I said I was stubborn for sticking with Booneville as the favorite cause I probably should have put Lamar as favorite. They could easily prove me wrong though. They return plenty and had a solid JH too so they can sprinkle in depth next year. They made it to the quarterfinals so you would think anything less than that would be a disappointment. This looks to be their last year in 3A so you know they will be going hard for that conference title cause they will do fine in the 4-4A in 2020 and moving forward, but it will be much harder to win conference there.

Mansfield- Mansfield I am not sure what to think as much. They have so much potential offensively with their QB and two key WR's back. Their play in the trenches is a worry cause it hurts them stopping the run as well as running the ball for them on offense. I think they are a team who could swing up or even down in the conference. They won a lot of close games and sometimes that cycles in the wrong way for you. However, they also have the best potential of the best offense in the conference so again not really sure what place they end up.


Greenland- I don't think they have the fire power to get into the top 2 in this conference. They lose their key RB, but they split their carries between guys so much as a team and that one WR they use all over the field in multiple ways is back for them. He is a very smart & crafty player and they'll need him big time next year to stay in the top 3 or 4 in the conference like they want to.

Charleston- this next year for Charleston is massive, every school no matter the dominance it has an off year from time to time. 2019 will be their chance at redeeming this year. I think if they get the QB situation figured out and the line firing you know their skill positions will bring it. They always have that so they need that QB and line to come along. That's so much easier said than done at the small high school level obviously though. I think they can get it done. I see them in the top 3 before I see them at 5 again.

Cedarville- simply by default of them finishing at 6th, I see them and Charleston with the highest potential upsides based off merely where they finished this year. Back to back JH conference titles and some better play at the end of the year gives them some hopes. That one RB in JH is incredible and they will need him immediately to step up to put more firepower in their running game. A school like Cedarville has virtually no history or tradition so seeing how that JH progresses is more interesting than your normal traditional powers who just plug in year after year.

West Fork- I won't have much to say about the last two teams, but West Fork I hope improves its roster numbers to be more competitive with the top 6 teams in 2019. I am fairly certain their QB returns and he can throw a pretty decent ball. Maybe some more athletes from other sports join to give him some help on the outside?


Paris-pretty much the same goes for them as West Fork, you can only hope in the new coaches second year gets some more kids out and consistency to help them be more competitive with the top of the league.


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Re: 1-3A in 2019
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2018, 07:56:09 pm »
Do you happen to have (or know where to find) the JR results-records for the conference?  I tried finding but could never find it.

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Re: 1-3A in 2019
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2018, 08:01:23 pm »
Booneville loses several important players, however, Robertson and Schlinker are just juniors. I could see the Cats making another good run next year as well. Talent leaving, sure, but more coming up and some key pieces staying in place.
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Re: 1-3A in 2019
« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2018, 08:09:12 pm »
Do you happen to have (or know where to find) the JR results-records for the conference?  I tried finding but could never find it.


I do not know the exact standings but I do know that Cedarville won it then Lamar, Booneville, and Charleston were a cut above West Fork, Greenland, Paris, and Mansfield.

Coach Jones from Lamar occasionally posts on here and maybe he will have the exact standings and their conference record from JH 2018?

Lamar & Charleston have had good groups the last two years in JH and Booneville was not in the conference until this year, but good as well. This Lamar JH will be 4A by the time they are upperclassmen in high school so it will be tougher even though they are extremely talented. Overall, the talent is solid across the board by 3A JH standards.
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Re: 1-3A in 2019
« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2018, 08:12:41 pm »
Booneville loses several important players, however, Robertson and Ulmer are just juniors. I could see the Cats making another good run next year as well. Talent leaving, sure, but more coming up and some key pieces staying in place. Have to remember that Ulmer (starting QB) didnt play all season, so that position will see another good player that has senior experience next year.


Ulmer is a senior.  Schlinker (sp?) the backup turned starter is back next year.

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Re: 1-3A in 2019
« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2018, 08:17:00 pm »

Ulmer is a senior.  Schlinker (sp?) the backup turned starter is back next year.


That's what I thought is they only return one or maybe two of their key pieces? It's Booneville playing at the 3A level so you know its not dropping off the map, but I just don't know how you replace that much talent in just one year from a special group like that. I'll still take them as favorite in the conference cause the gap was so wide from the rest, but I am not sure they can go unblemished again. It's going to make for an enjoyable & competitive conference though.

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Re: 1-3A in 2019
« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2018, 08:55:53 pm »
Booneville looses a bunch but should still be pretty loaded with talent.
Mansfield, cedarville look to have their best teams in recent history.
Charleston got it figured out at the end, or at least against us, and return most everything.
Greenland returns one of the most explosive players in the conference.

Even though we lost a very good Sr class we return a very solid core of players.
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1. Cedarville.  Won close games vs Lamar and Booneville.  Boonevilleís best player was hurt. And when I say best player I mean the best player in the conference. 

Runner up
Lamar and Booneville.  Booneville won tiebreaker(a healthy Ray ran for 275)

Paris and Charleston were both really good and probably within a touchdown of anyone.

Others struggled this year.

On a side note.  Lamar has a chance to stay down one more cycle, then probably goes up and stays there.  The numbers are on a 3 year average.
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Re: 1-3A in 2019
« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2018, 09:27:40 pm »
Thank you for the info as always Coach.... And my word will the Ray's ever stop producing FB's  :o

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Re: 1-3A in 2019
« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2018, 09:35:04 pm »

Ulmer is a senior.  Schlinker (sp?) the backup turned starter is back next year.

Ah my bad. i was misinformed lol.

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Re: 1-3A in 2019
« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2018, 06:16:00 am »
The 9th grade Ray kid is more of a running back/QB

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Re: 1-3A in 2019
« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2018, 07:32:17 am »
Thank you for the info as always Coach.... And my word will the Ray's ever stop producing FB's  :o

Nope. There's one in 7th grade also that's bigger than all his brothers.  In 2021 there will be 3 Rays in the backfield.

Edit: Forgot about a couple Rays moving back from Greenwood next year   
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Re: 1-3A in 2019
« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2018, 07:36:55 am »

That's what I thought is they only return one or maybe two of their key pieces? It's Booneville playing at the 3A level so you know its not dropping off the map, but I just don't know how you replace that much talent in just one year from a special group like that. I'll still take them as favorite in the conference cause the gap was so wide from the rest, but I am not sure they can go unblemished again. It's going to make for an enjoyable & competitive conference though.

Booneville had several key seniors this year, but at any given time in a game we'd have 4-5 JRs on both sides of the ball.  We'll lose a lot but we'll be a lot better than you think.  Mark it down.

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Re: 1-3A in 2019
« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2018, 12:29:32 pm »
It showed yesterday with that all senior O Line was dominate going to be hard to replace that many

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Re: 1-3A in 2019
« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2018, 02:30:47 pm »
If I counted correctly, Booneville should return roughly half of the defense and maybe 4-5 starters on offense. That O-line will be tough to replace, but there are several sophomores with high potential that could turn into real studs and continue roadgrading defensive linemen the same way these seniors did.

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Re: 1-3A in 2019
« Reply #14 on: December 09, 2018, 02:50:11 pm »
If I counted correctly, Booneville should return roughly half of the defense and maybe 4-5 starters on offense. That O-line will be tough to replace, but there are several sophomores with high potential that could turn into real studs and continue roadgrading defensive linemen the same way these seniors did.
Itís hard to replace a whole line

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Re: 1-3A in 2019
« Reply #15 on: December 09, 2018, 03:26:13 pm »
Itís hard to replace a whole line

Won't have to. Two of them were juniors. Turkey and Pirraglia.

And Pirraglia has the potential to be one of the best OL Booneville has ever had.

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Re: 1-3A in 2019
« Reply #16 on: December 09, 2018, 03:29:11 pm »
Nasty beat me to it.

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Re: 1-3A in 2019
« Reply #17 on: December 09, 2018, 03:31:41 pm »
Any chance Mizell plays both ways next year?

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Re: 1-3A in 2019
« Reply #18 on: December 09, 2018, 04:12:05 pm »
Any chance Mizell plays both ways next year?

Possible, but who knows this far out.  But I'll bet right now we'll be a lot better than people think.

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Re: 1-3A in 2019
« Reply #19 on: December 09, 2018, 06:59:54 pm »
Thanks for the good input as always elmerfudd and nastynice. I think you both made really good points. I figured there would be some new lineman step up in place of the ones that graduate. A lot about line play is simply how bad kids want to be good at it and their toughness. You know Booneville is going to just be a cut above when it comes to that intensity in the line play year after year.

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Re: 1-3A in 2019
« Reply #20 on: December 09, 2018, 07:29:03 pm »
Thanks for the good input as always elmerfudd and nastynice. I think you both made really good points. I figured there would be some new lineman step up in place of the ones that graduate. A lot about line play is simply how bad kids want to be good at it and their toughness. You know Booneville is going to just be a cut above when it comes to that intensity in the line play year after year.

Exactly. Some of the best linemen to pass through here, on either side of the ball, have been some of the smallest ones out there.

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Re: 1-3A in 2019
« Reply #21 on: December 10, 2018, 09:28:45 am »
And the backup (Booneville) fullback racked off a 60 yard run in the state championship and had a ton of tackles. 

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« Reply #22 on: December 10, 2018, 10:08:07 am »
The Cats will be ok.  Better than most would assume after graduating what we are graduating.  We will be fine at fullback with Brasher.  Hate to lose Ray, but Cam will do well.  Qb got a year under his belt due to injury so he will be ready to return and will more than likely have more size on him.  A talented Halfback will return as well.  2 O linemen will return.  Offense fill ins.  Ray will more than likely fill the other half back position as a sophomore.  The line...We wont have the luxury next season to pretty much have a dedicated o line and d line.  To put our best product out will require some linemen going both ways.  Will return one linebacker, 2 d linemen (one rolled in and out), one d end, one from the secondary.  Secondary will be rounded out with a sophomore and junior I would imagine with the third being up in the air.  Theres another Jr linebacker who got several snaps this season and will do fine.  D end is up in the air.....Basically...the cats should do just fine after some practice time and working out personell combos.

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« Reply #23 on: December 11, 2018, 07:38:07 pm »
From what Iíve read Booneville has one of the top O Limeman returning in the state in all classes

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Re: 1-3A in 2019
« Reply #24 on: December 12, 2018, 09:22:13 am »
And the backup (Booneville) fullback racked off a 60 yard run in the state championship and had a ton of tackles.
Not bad to be his 2nd carry of the year. I'm pretty sure he led the team in tackles this year.

 

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