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Re: 2020-2022 Projected Classifications (1st Draft Completed)
« Reply #50 on: December 05, 2018, 11:25:23 pm »
Only thing they play 6a sports in is football, where are you seeing the 6a tourney for, I'm assuming, baseball?

Yes.  Baseball plays a modified "conference" during regular season and are seeded from that to advance to state tourney which is all 6A teams that qualify

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Re: 2020-2022 Projected Classifications (1st Draft Completed)
« Reply #51 on: December 06, 2018, 08:17:51 am »
Yes.  Baseball plays a modified "conference" during regular season and are seeded from that to advance to state tourney which is all 6A teams that qualify
It's my understanding that El Dorado and other 6A schools only play 6A for football.  The "other sports" all of 6A is combined with the top half of 5A to create the 5A conference.  The 7A schools then makeup the 6A conference. 

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Re: 2020-2022 Projected Classifications (1st Draft Completed)
« Reply #52 on: December 06, 2018, 08:46:02 am »
AHS yes that's correct for upcoming year as proposed.  I just looked at AAA website.  Eldo will be 5A in baseball. However last 2 years they played a 5A conference schedule with some 6A teams mixed in like Texarkana and competed in the 6A state tourney. They must be proposing a change this year and just dropping everyone down a class

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Re: 2020-2022 Projected Classifications (1st Draft Completed)
« Reply #53 on: December 06, 2018, 10:25:46 am »
My understanding is that in the next cycle, we will see football merge to the same conferences as in the Spring Sports.  So the Classifications that you see on the right in (5A) will be what class they are in for all sports.  From what I hear, coaches are wanting complete alignment for all sports from top to bottom. 

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Re: 2020-2022 Projected Classifications (1st Draft Completed)
« Reply #54 on: December 06, 2018, 11:31:32 am »
AHS yes that's correct for upcoming year as proposed.  I just looked at AAA website.  Eldo will be 5A in baseball. However last 2 years they played a 5A conference schedule with some 6A teams mixed in like Texarkana and competed in the 6A state tourney. They must be proposing a change this year and just dropping everyone down a class

This year 2018-2019, is the first year of the classification change for everything but football

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Re: 2020-2022 Projected Classifications (1st Draft Completed)
« Reply #55 on: December 07, 2018, 06:40:02 pm »
My understanding is that in the next cycle, we will see football merge to the same conferences as in the Spring Sports.  So the Classifications that you see on the right in (5A) will be what class they are in for all sports.  From what I hear, coaches are wanting complete alignment for all sports from top to bottom. 

I agree BUT WHY ARE CAHNGEING WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE WE ARE DOING THIS TO BENFEIT THOSE FEW SCHOOL WHO DIDNT WANT TO BE PART OF 7A CLASS SO LET MESS UP ALL OTHER SCHOOL TO BENFITE THIOSE FEW SCHOOLS

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Re: 2020-2022 Projected Classifications (1st Draft Completed)
« Reply #56 on: December 07, 2018, 09:16:34 pm »
I agree BUT WHY ARE CAHNGEING WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE WE ARE DOING THIS TO BENFEIT THOSE FEW SCHOOL WHO DIDNT WANT TO BE PART OF 7A CLASS SO LET MESS UP ALL OTHER SCHOOL TO BENFITE THIOSE FEW SCHOOLS

Enough schools voted for it to pass it.....

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« Reply #57 on: December 07, 2018, 10:43:59 pm »
I agree BUT WHY ARE CAHNGEING WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE WE ARE DOING THIS TO BENFEIT THOSE FEW SCHOOL WHO DIDNT WANT TO BE PART OF 7A CLASS SO LET MESS UP ALL OTHER SCHOOL TO BENFITE THIOSE FEW SCHOOLS
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« Reply #58 on: December 10, 2018, 09:04:36 am »
I agree BUT WHY ARE CAHNGEING WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE WE ARE DOING THIS TO BENFEIT THOSE FEW SCHOOL WHO DIDNT WANT TO BE PART OF 7A CLASS SO LET MESS UP ALL OTHER SCHOOL TO BENFITE THIOSE FEW SCHOOLS
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7A is supposed to be more that just size, its supposed to be the toughest conf in AR.  as it stand now it isn't even close.  combining 7 and 6 would make it that way. 
7A
North Little Rock 13-0
Bryant 10-2
Conway 11-4
Cabot 6-6
Northside 4-8
Southside 3-9
Catholic 4-6
Central 2-8
Bentonville 10-3
Bentonville West 9-3
Fayetteville 8-5
Har Ber 7-4
Springdale 6-5
Rogers 5-7
Rogers Heritage 1-9
Van Buren   0-10
Adding teams like Pine Bluff 11-2, W Memphis 10-2, Searcy 10-3, Greenwood 13-0, and El Dorado 9-2 would help.  Also just think even if the weaker 6A schools have trouble competing in 7A at least you add some teams that Rogers schools, Van Buren, Central, and Catholic have a chance to beat!

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Re: 2020-2022 Projected Classifications (1st Draft Completed)
« Reply #59 on: December 28, 2018, 12:34:59 pm »
When does the AAA list come out?

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Re: 2020-2022 Projected Classifications (1st Draft Completed)
« Reply #60 on: December 28, 2018, 12:55:37 pm »
When does the AAA list come out?


Usually it seems to come out between August and early October.... Then they do the conferences about a month or two after that. So we should generally know everything in less than 9 months time.

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« Reply #61 on: December 28, 2018, 07:45:56 pm »
I agree BUT WHY ARE CAHNGEING WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE WE ARE DOING THIS TO BENFEIT THOSE FEW SCHOOL WHO DIDNT WANT TO BE PART OF 7A CLASS SO LET MESS UP ALL OTHER SCHOOL TO BENFITE THIOSE FEW SCHOOLS

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Re: 2020-2022 Projected Classifications (1st Draft Completed)
« Reply #62 on: December 30, 2018, 12:37:46 pm »
When does the AAA list come out?
Last time the reclassification numbers for football came out towards the end of April.

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Re: 2020-2022 Projected Classifications (1st Draft Completed)
« Reply #63 on: January 01, 2019, 01:14:26 pm »
So Iím confused, are they going do away with class 7A in 2020 and move everyone down a class?

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Re: 2020-2022 Projected Classifications (1st Draft Completed)
« Reply #64 on: January 01, 2019, 04:12:17 pm »
So Iím confused, are they going do away with class 7A in 2020 and move everyone down a class?

Think that's just speculation....

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« Reply #65 on: January 01, 2019, 04:32:01 pm »
So Iím confused, are they going do away with class 7A in 2020 and move everyone down a class?
The idea is definitely floating around. I've heard from the ADs at two different schools, and if there is a proposal for it in August, they will definitely vote for it.

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« Reply #66 on: January 01, 2019, 04:48:52 pm »
The idea is definitely floating around. I've heard from the ADs at two different schools, and if there is a proposal for it in August, they will definitely vote for it.

Will be interesting as to how 8 man would fit into the equation for the smaller schools...by that I mean how it will affect 2a/3a maybe even 4a as schools drop out of 11 man...

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« Reply #67 on: January 01, 2019, 04:55:43 pm »
Think that's just speculation....


It would make more sense if they do this. 7 classes is too much for Arkansas. 5A would be fun again.

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« Reply #68 on: January 02, 2019, 06:48:11 am »
Iíve heard that Southpaw but I find it interesting that if you just go by numbers of McClellan + Fair they are 6A
Here's why you can't go on those numbers alone. I found this on the Little Rock School District website ...
The Little Rock School District celebrated a significant milestone with a "Topping Out" ceremony for the new Little Rock Southwest High School. Slated to open in the fall of 2020, the 390,000 SF high school will house larger classrooms, collaboration spaces, a 1200 seat auditorium, and an arena size gymnasium, among many other impressive features at the state-of-the-art facility.  The combined student populations from McClellan and JA Fair, along with approximately 300 Hall High students who will be zoned for the campus, will comprise the 2,250 student body.
It sort of validates what I've thought all along. The new school and Central will be the 7A schools (possibly 6A if what I'm hearing comes to pass), while Parkview and Hall will be 5A schools.

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« Reply #69 on: January 02, 2019, 08:21:24 pm »
Probably in the minority. However, I think Arkansas should only have 5 classifications. In most cases, this would reduce travel time with-in conferences. I realize number wise there could be some big differences between the small and large school in each classification.  It most often comes down to a schools athletic program rather than enrollment.
Valley Springs is one the smaller 3A schools, but yet is a contender year in and year out.  Deer and Timbo are two of the smallest schools in 1A and have success. I believe Mt. Ida is in the bottom 1/2 of 2A schools and look what they do in football. I could go on and on.

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« Reply #70 on: January 02, 2019, 08:34:10 pm »
Probably in the minority. However, I think Arkansas should only have 5 classifications. In most cases, this would reduce travel time with-in conferences. I realize number wise there could be some big differences between the small and large school in each classification.  It most often comes down to a schools athletic program rather than enrollment.
Valley Springs is one the smaller 3A schools, but yet is a contender year in and year out.  Deer and Timbo are two of the smallest schools in 1A and have success. I believe Mt. Ida is in the bottom 1/2 of 2A schools and look what they do in football. I could go on and on.

Mt Ida is looking at 8 man football next year....and neither deer or timbo have won a game in a state tournament to my knowledge 🤷

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« Reply #71 on: January 02, 2019, 09:16:43 pm »
Mt Ida is looking at 8 man football next year....and neither deer or timbo have won a game in a state tournament to my knowledge 🤷

You missed my point, the larger schools in each classification are not always destined for greatness.   Mt. Ida being a smaller 2A school has had great success in past years.

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Re: 2020-2022 Projected Classifications (1st Draft Completed)
« Reply #72 on: January 02, 2019, 09:35:09 pm »
Here's why you can't go on those numbers alone. I found this on the Little Rock School District website ...
The Little Rock School District celebrated a significant milestone with a "Topping Out" ceremony for the new Little Rock Southwest High School. Slated to open in the fall of 2020, the 390,000 SF high school will house larger classrooms, collaboration spaces, a 1200 seat auditorium, and an arena size gymnasium, among many other impressive features at the state-of-the-art facility.  The combined student populations from McClellan and JA Fair, along with approximately 300 Hall High students who will be zoned for the campus, will comprise the 2,250 student body.
It sort of validates what I've thought all along. The new school and Central will be the 7A schools (possibly 6A if what I'm hearing comes to pass), while Parkview and Hall will be 5A schools.

People will always flock to new and improved facilities. I am very interested in see what this school does to Joe T. Robinson, Mills University Studies, and even the Bryant school district. Even some of the enrollments and "lottery applications" for ESTEM, Lisa Academy charter schools.
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Re: 2020-2022 Projected Classifications (1st Draft Completed)
« Reply #73 on: January 04, 2019, 12:19:20 am »
People will always flock to new and improved facilities. I am very interested in see what this school does to Joe T. Robinson, Mills University Studies, and even the Bryant school district. Even some of the enrollments and "lottery applications" for ESTEM, Lisa Academy charter schools.

Well, by waiving the Fair Dismissal Act LRSD can fire who they want from Fair and McClellan and move the haves and new ďqualityĒ hires to southwest.

If eStem ever gets football...

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« Reply #74 on: January 04, 2019, 08:42:51 am »
Well, by waiving the Fair Dismissal Act LRSD can fire who they want from Fair and McClellan and move the haves and new ďqualityĒ hires to southwest.

If eStem ever gets football...

Estem just doesn't have the facility capabilities to do football.

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Re: 2020-2022 Projected Classifications (1st Draft Completed)
« Reply #75 on: January 04, 2019, 09:02:12 am »
Estem just doesn't have the facility capabilities to do football.

Yet.

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« Reply #76 on: January 04, 2019, 05:34:46 pm »
I see now nevermind
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« Reply #78 on: January 07, 2019, 08:33:55 am »
Probably in the minority. However, I think Arkansas should only have 5 classifications. In most cases, this would reduce travel time with-in conferences. I realize number wise there could be some big differences between the small and large school in each classification.  It most often comes down to a schools athletic program rather than enrollment.
Valley Springs is one the smaller 3A schools, but yet is a contender year in and year out.  Deer and Timbo are two of the smallest schools in 1A and have success. I believe Mt. Ida is in the bottom 1/2 of 2A schools and look what they do in football. I could go on and on.
Although I agree 7A is too much for AR.  I think dropping to 5A will add too many schools.  5A I think has 32 teams in it and 4A has 48 teams.  Adding 6A and 7A would create another league of 32 teams and would go well with the others.

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« Reply #79 on: January 07, 2019, 09:31:19 am »
Recombine 6A and 7A into a 32-team 6A and then split the playoffs like Texas does in its 6A by enrollment.

 

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