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Re: 2018 Outlook: The Frest Start......again.
« Reply #100 on: December 20, 2017, 08:22:02 pm »
I know SMU is missing coaches and all, but they're getting killed by Skip Holtz's LA Tech right now.  35-3 with 5:12 left in the 2nd Quarter.

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Re: 2018 Outlook: The Frest Start......again.
« Reply #101 on: December 20, 2017, 11:28:11 pm »
I think we will be fine. Hate to lose any good Arkansas players. This early signing period leaves little time to build any relationships. Donít think we were getting Bohannon no matter who the coach was.

He has flipped a couple other recruits from Arkansas back to the Hogs from other schools though.

Actually looks like we can sign 12 and not 15. 10 currently committed and he is chasing some decent recruits at least on paper anyway. Do we get them who knows.

Next years class of Arkansas kids will be the tale as the state has some really good players in it for that year. So we will really see what Morris can do as far as a full year of recruiting.

He needs to get a defensive staff in place. Supposedly our DC is still coaching.

Not so sure Arkansas recruits by themselves can support any run at the west much less the SEC championship.  For sure we need to get a DC in place.  I don't think I'd sign with a school unless I knew who the AD was, that is if I was good and was going to play defense.

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Re: 2018 Outlook: The Frest Start......again.
« Reply #102 on: December 21, 2017, 04:32:02 am »
I know SMU is missing coaches and all, but they're getting killed by Skip Holtz's LA Tech right now.  35-3 with 5:12 left in the 2nd Quarter.
Yeah I noticed too. They havenít been good in awhile.

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Re: 2018 Outlook: The Frest Start......again.
« Reply #103 on: December 21, 2017, 06:15:21 am »
Not so sure Arkansas recruits by themselves can support any run at the west much less the SEC championship.  For sure we need to get a DC in place.  I don't think I'd sign with a school unless I knew who the AD was, that is if I was good and was going to play defense.
Just a lot of folks mad that Bohannon left. Fact is even if old staff was here we would have never had a shot. It does look better if we can at least keep the cream of the Arkansas crop at home.

Hopefully a good DC hire is named here shortly.


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Re: 2018 Outlook: The Frest Start......again.
« Reply #104 on: December 22, 2017, 08:32:46 am »
I know SMU is missing coaches and all, but they're getting killed by Skip Holtz's LA Tech right now.  35-3 with 5:12 left in the 2nd Quarter.

Yep, Tech "got in the left lane and put the hammer down."

https://www.thescore.com/ncaaf/events/27382/box_score
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Re: 2018 Outlook: The Frest Start......again.
« Reply #105 on: December 22, 2017, 11:51:28 am »
Nick Fulwider, DE out of Georgia just committed to the Razorbacks. 6'7 260. Had a great offer list.

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Re: 2018 Outlook: The Frest Start......again.
« Reply #106 on: December 22, 2017, 02:14:50 pm »
Though the class will be short on numbers. It looks like we have picked up some decent players. We will see in a couple years.

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Re: 2018 Outlook: The Frest Start......again.
« Reply #107 on: December 29, 2017, 04:51:20 pm »
If Chavis is the guy, giving up 55 to Wake Forest is not the best first impression.

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Re: 2018 Outlook: The Frest Start......again.
« Reply #108 on: December 29, 2017, 05:02:53 pm »
If Chavis is the guy, giving up 55 to Wake Forest is not the best first impression.

As long as he's been around this shouldn't be a first impression tho...

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Re: 2018 Outlook: The Frest Start......again.
« Reply #109 on: December 29, 2017, 05:54:16 pm »
Iím hoping the stay at A&M is an outlier. If he can improve is from a plus 100 defense we should at least be better right

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Re: 2018 Outlook: The Frest Start......again.
« Reply #110 on: December 31, 2017, 06:31:18 pm »
If Chavis is the guy, giving up 55 to Wake Forest is not the best first impression.

Seems he likes to play lots of prevent on 3rd down throughout his career as a DC.  At UT he gave up lots of big 3rd down plays. 

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Re: 2018 Outlook: The Frest Start......again.
« Reply #111 on: January 03, 2018, 03:02:03 pm »
Chavis and Venables are both done for the year, and no word yet. Might Morris be eyeballing Mel Tucker at UGa since Bamaís Pruitt is spoken for already?

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Re: 2018 Outlook: The Frest Start......again.
« Reply #112 on: January 03, 2018, 08:53:09 pm »
Don't worry about defense we will just score more than who we play, simple.

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Re: 2018 Outlook: The Frest Start......again.
« Reply #113 on: January 05, 2018, 02:56:48 am »
Don't worry about defense we will just score more than who we play, simple.
Was that not the Petrino philosophy?

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Re: 2018 Outlook: The Frest Start......again.
« Reply #114 on: January 05, 2018, 08:44:03 am »
Was that not the Petrino philosophy?

Speaking of Petrino he just got a dose of karma... The only reason he did not take another job this offseason was he thought Lamar Jackson was coming back..... yet Jackson entered the draft so Louisville is looking at a 5-7 record in that insanely tough ACC division they are in.

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Re: 2018 Outlook: The Frest Start......again.
« Reply #115 on: January 05, 2018, 12:13:41 pm »
Iím pretty sure no coach has ever based there choice of job opportunities on one single 19 or 20 yo athlete

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Re: 2018 Outlook: The Frest Start......again.
« Reply #116 on: January 05, 2018, 02:05:32 pm »
Iím pretty sure no coach has ever based there choice of job opportunities on one single 19 or 20 yo athlete

Coaches strategically leave all the time when they know the talent is dropping off in the coming years wherever they are at.... Of course a coach will stay sometimes when they know they have stacked teams for the future. Coaches are very strategic when it comes to that.... All that said, you are right in the sense that $$$$ will influence the most.

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Re: 2018 Outlook: The Frest Start......again.
« Reply #117 on: January 05, 2018, 03:02:24 pm »
Note, I said one single player

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Re: 2018 Outlook: The Frest Start......again.
« Reply #118 on: January 06, 2018, 07:17:39 pm »
Is there any progress on the DC? 

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Re: 2018 Outlook: The Frest Start......again.
« Reply #119 on: January 07, 2018, 08:27:54 am »
Is there any progress on the DC? 
I guess when he said he was getting best DC he really meant I have no ideal who I will get!

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Re: 2018 Outlook: The Frest Start......again.
« Reply #120 on: January 07, 2018, 12:17:40 pm »
Supposedly itís Chavis and they arenít announcing until
The entire staff has been picked. But who knows really.

If itís a done deal Iíd expect an announcement next week sometime

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Re: 2018 Outlook: The Frest Start......again.
« Reply #121 on: January 07, 2018, 06:34:50 pm »
So it would seem that unless he is hiring someone off the Bama or Georgia staff  that he is having a problem getting a DC of the caliber needed for the SEC.  I say this because I don't doubt that there are people out there that would jump at an SEC job as Arkansas DC. 

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« Reply #122 on: January 07, 2018, 06:58:35 pm »
Supposedly itís Chavis and they arenít announcing until
The entire staff has been picked. But who knows really.

If itís a done deal Iíd expect an announcement next week sometime

How does that make any sense?

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Re: 2018 Outlook: The Frest Start......again.
« Reply #123 on: January 07, 2018, 09:28:08 pm »
How does that make any sense?
All we can go off of is what folks are saying. Supposedly Chavis and staff have been talking to recruits on our behalf for a while, even before A&M bowl. Something to do with the extension at A&M could be the hang up in the announcement as well.

But Iím with you guys. Just announce who it is already if thatís who it is.

Could be we have missed on everyone we wanted. Could be we are going to announce a big name.

But Iíd also rather them have all their ducks in a row than get all the misinformation that came out during the coaching search

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« Reply #124 on: January 08, 2018, 06:57:05 pm »
Looks like we don't have our ducks in a row.  I didn't think a coach who is on contract with one school can recruit for another, so unless Chavis has resigned, and surely somebody would know about that, I think we are behind the eight-ball.  Lets get it together.

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Re: 2018 Outlook: The Frest Start......again.
« Reply #125 on: January 08, 2018, 07:36:05 pm »
Believe A&M has already hired another DC. I think, not 100 on that.

Looked it up and yep they hired Notre Dame DC.

IMO it will be announced soon. Or at least it should be
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Re: 2018 Outlook: The Frest Start......again.
« Reply #126 on: January 08, 2018, 07:43:52 pm »
It seems strange that we don't have stuff all ready yet. 

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Re: 2018 Outlook: The Frest Start......again.
« Reply #127 on: January 08, 2018, 07:50:58 pm »
I got looking around after this. I donít have Twitter. But on another forum someone posted a tweet from one of our recruits tweeted. Had a good visit with coach Chavis with the Hog emoji after it.

Morris is wanting to announce the entire staff all at once. Technically the only reason we know about the offensive guys is because just about all of them came from SMU.

Iím sure there will be a big event planned, streamers and parade confetti.


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Re: 2018 Outlook: The Frest Start......again.
« Reply #128 on: January 08, 2018, 08:05:00 pm »
Frost was recruiting like crazy for Nebraska while preparing to play auburn in the bowl

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« Reply #129 on: January 08, 2018, 08:16:05 pm »
Frost was recruiting like crazy for Nebraska while preparing to play auburn in the bowl

He had a contract with Nebraska, and UCF agreed to let him coach the game.

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Re: 2018 Outlook: The Frest Start......again.
« Reply #130 on: January 08, 2018, 09:39:19 pm »
Iím assuming Chavis has a contract with us now since he is contacting recruits for us

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« Reply #131 on: January 09, 2018, 11:24:42 am »
So it appears the DC is Chavis and has brought Ron Cooper with him to coach secondary.  Lets get the staff names out there, what are they waiting for.  They need to stir up some conversation. 

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« Reply #132 on: January 09, 2018, 11:31:02 am »
Itís official and again id expect all the others to fall in to place

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Re: 2018 Outlook: The Frest Start......again.
« Reply #134 on: January 09, 2018, 12:51:10 pm »
Surely we could have done better than that!

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Re: 2018 Outlook: The Frest Start......again.
« Reply #135 on: January 09, 2018, 03:08:16 pm »
Well itís who we got. We will see how it goes. I can say Morris isnít shy about offering scholarships and to highly rated recruits.

As for Chavis he is highly regarded by most. Didnít really knock it out of the park at A&M. Hopefully he can recapture some the old magic and surely has to do better than what we were doing.

Again we will see

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Re: 2018 Outlook: The Frest Start......again.
« Reply #136 on: January 09, 2018, 10:48:56 pm »
I think we are in good shape. Time will tell but im excited about these coordinators.

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Re: 2018 Outlook: The Frest Start......again.
« Reply #137 on: January 09, 2018, 10:59:18 pm »
To the one who said that we could do better...

How much better do you expect us to do than a guy whoís regarded as one of the top 5-10 defensive minds in college football? Honestly, some of you will gripe about anything Arkansas related.

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« Reply #138 on: January 10, 2018, 07:33:46 am »
To the one who said that we could do better...

How much better do you expect us to do than a guy whoís regarded as one of the top 5-10 defensive minds in college football? Honestly, some of you will gripe about anything Arkansas related.
maybe he was 10 years ago hasn't done much lately and he had better recruits than we got but we will see! I only grip about hog stuff because I heard your stupid butt goes there!

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« Reply #139 on: January 10, 2018, 02:01:24 pm »
I must admit I was hoping we might do a bit better on the hiring of staff.  At least Chavis is a known personality.  He has been off his game a bit but that may be due to talent at A & M.  Lots of younger guys, less college years experience on the staff, I will give Morris credit for being loyal to guys that were with him at SMU. 
First glance seems we are not getting the cream of the college coaching crop.  Hope Morris has some jewels in the rough, this is the big league and we have a lot of work to do.  Hopefully it will all work out.

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« Reply #140 on: January 10, 2018, 02:38:10 pm »
I do t think offense is the issue. Morris is an offensive guy so the OC shouldnít be that big of a deal.

As for Chavis yes his A&M years leave a little to be desired. I do think that they were playing a lot of underclassmen, I havenít checked a roster. But they were some some highly rated players.

Hoping they can build something here that looks like a football program.

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« Reply #141 on: January 10, 2018, 08:49:36 pm »
I do t think offense is the issue. Morris is an offensive guy so the OC shouldnít be that big of a deal.

As for Chavis yes his A&M years leave a little to be desired. I do think that they were playing a lot of underclassmen, I havenít checked a roster. But they were some some highly rated players.

Hoping they can build something here that looks like a football program.

I think both O and D are issues.  Are you thinking Morris will call his own offense? 

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« Reply #142 on: January 10, 2018, 09:15:46 pm »
I think both O and D are issues.  Are you thinking Morris will call his own offense?
I think him and his OC have been together a while and know what each other want and how things work. Why go out and get another guy when you have one that you have trained to run the offense you are already running

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« Reply #143 on: January 10, 2018, 10:52:35 pm »
Because this is the SEC and he's going to have to face some of the best teams and defenses in America, but you may be right.  I'm hoping for a 6-6 at least next year but 7-5 would be much better.

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« Reply #144 on: January 11, 2018, 02:45:04 pm »
I see your point but the program is really down and it may not be fixable in only a year or two.  Chavis should help with what has been a pitiful defense but our staff still has to match wits with the SEC.

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Re: 2018 Outlook: The Frest Start......again.
« Reply #145 on: January 12, 2018, 12:08:53 pm »
I'm curious as to how the Hogs team is rated for next year.  Based on our returning players where do we stand and how do others in the know expect we will do based on what we know presently.

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« Reply #146 on: January 12, 2018, 02:50:03 pm »
Not very well - it's not the coaches, it's the recruiting that has to be done.  It's going to take Morris 3 yrs to recruit the players needed to compete in the SEC West (assuming he can)..  After recreational games,  Arkansas starts the SEC, Auburn - A&M - Bama - (0-3)..  Remember when Arkansas played A&M, back in Sept, and they kept saying Freshman this and Freshman that?  Fisher has a Top 25'ish team to start with. 

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Re: 2018 Outlook: The Frest Start......again.
« Reply #147 on: January 12, 2018, 03:05:09 pm »
Not very well - it's not the coaches, it's the recruiting that has to be done.  It's going to take Morris 3 yrs to recruit the players needed to compete in the SEC West (assuming he can)..  After recreational games,  Arkansas starts the SEC, Auburn - A&M - Bama - (0-3)..  Remember when Arkansas played A&M, back in Sept, and they kept saying Freshman this and Freshman that?  Fisher has a Top 25'ish team to start with.

A&M is going to finish 6-6 or 7-5 next year so we can actually win that game early in the year.... I have no idea why Fisher would ever leave Florida State for Texas A&M. Well we all know why and that has 75 million answers. Besides that Florida State is a much better job. Kirk left early for A&M and he was the big play threat that won them games the last 2 years. Now for Arkansas, they won't be very good either. A very favorable schedule of Vandy and Mizzou from the East along with 4 games against non power 5 schools will help. Arkansas's season will all come down to if they can go to Fort Collins and beat Colorado State. That won't be an easy game early in a season. If they win that they'll go 4-0 in non conference and find a way to get 2 wins between Miss State, Ole Miss, Vandy, Mizzou, and A&M. I think 6-6 will happen year one even with a suspect roster for Arkansas because they'll win a couple close games they need in a soft by SEC standards schedule.

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Re: 2018 Outlook: The Frest Start......again.
« Reply #148 on: January 12, 2018, 05:33:46 pm »
Not very well - it's not the coaches, it's the recruiting that has to be done.  It's going to take Morris 3 yrs to recruit the players needed to compete in the SEC West (assuming he can).. After recreational games,  Arkansas starts the SEC, Auburn - A&M - Bama - (0-3)..  Remember when Arkansas played A&M, back in Sept, and they kept saying Freshman this and Freshman that?  Fisher has a Top 25'ish team to start with.
I know it took him 3 years to get SMU bowl eligible, but why do you think itíll take that long here?  None of the last 3 coaches has needed 3 years to get bowl eligible.  Or do you mean compete for a trip to Atlanta?  In that case 3 years is probably optimistic.

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« Reply #149 on: January 12, 2018, 08:39:32 pm »
A&M is going to finish 6-6 or 7-5 next year so we can actually win that game early in the year.... I have no idea why Fisher would ever leave Florida State for Texas A&M. Well we all know why and that has 75 million answers. Besides that Florida State is a much better job. Kirk left early for A&M and he was the big play threat that won them games the last 2 years. Now for Arkansas, they won't be very good either. A very favorable schedule of Vandy and Mizzou from the East along with 4 games against non power 5 schools will help. Arkansas's season will all come down to if they can go to Fort Collins and beat Colorado State. That won't be an easy game early in a season. If they win that they'll go 4-0 in non conference and find a way to get 2 wins between Miss State, Ole Miss, Vandy, Mizzou, and A&M. I think 6-6 will happen year one even with a suspect roster for Arkansas because they'll win a couple close games they need in a soft by SEC standards schedule.
I get what youíre saying but in actuality A&M is headed in the right direction. Fisher is an upgrade from Sumlin even though his offenses were fun to watch except against the hogs. I will be very surprised if the aggies go 6-6.

 

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