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Title: 1A Recru... Legal move in
Post by: BannerChaser95 on November 08, 2017, 09:30:01 am
Team A has a record of 34-5
Team B has a record of 15-15

Team A beat team B 2 times  by a combined 154-76 Home and Home conference games.

Team A won the conference. Team B didnít

Team A won The district tournament. Team B didnít, actually finished 4th

Team A made regional finals. Team B season is over with a .500 record.




If you had the choice for your child to continue his High School career at Team B where he was arguably the best player or Team A where he could still stand out and still play and still produce.

Would you even consider moving your child? This is a hot topic some people take like the Bible Belt is about to lose its guns! If theirs a system you can use to move your child with no sit out time or consequences why not take hold of that system. Iím not talking about going from a 5A school as a starter to a 1A school. This systems not for select schools, itís for everyone. Go to whatever school you want. If you want to keep your child at a 15-15 school. With high hopes of ďmaybe we will make regionalsĒ well then more power to you!
Title: Re: 1A Recru... Legal move in
Post by: Woodrow1 on November 08, 2017, 09:35:01 am
My child would play in whatever district I live in, or if a parent taught at a school at that school.  School is about school, not sports.  After you have graduated 10 years later, who really cares if you went .500 or won state?  No one!!  This moving schools to play on a better team is beyond ridiculous.  And it doesn't teach a kid anything in life. 
Title: Re: 1A Recru... Legal move in
Post by: BannerChaser95 on November 08, 2017, 09:40:26 am
My child would play in whatever district I live in, or if a parent taught at a school at that school.  School is about school, not sports.  After you have graduated 10 years later, who really cares if you went .500 or won state?  No one!!  This moving schools to play on a better team is beyond ridiculous.  And it doesn't teach a kid anything in life.
just have them quit sports and focus on real life things then because in 10 years. Playing basketball isnít anything more than memories. So yeah 15-15 or winning state. Nothing matters huh
Title: Re: 1A Recru... Legal move in
Post by: Woodrow1 on November 08, 2017, 09:45:54 am
just have them quit sports and focus on real life things then because in 10 years. Playing basketball isnít anything more than memories. So yeah 15-15 or winning state. Nothing matters huh

I never said anything about quitting sports.  Sports can teach kids lots of things.  Give it your all, in all you do.  That is what I say.  But I don't believe in school hopping just to get my kid on a better team.  I personally will never do that.  At the end of the day it is just sports.  You won't make a living at it, and there are lots of things more important.  And I love sports.....
Title: Re: 1A Recru... Legal move in
Post by: BannerMountainMan on November 08, 2017, 09:56:09 am
Lose friendships just to want to win is what happens these days, I understand it.
Title: Re: 1A Recru... Legal move in
Post by: BannerChaser95 on November 08, 2017, 10:06:50 am
Lose friendships just to want to win is what happens these days, I understand it.
you canít be friends because you moved? Lol
Title: Re: 1A Recru... Legal move in
Post by: BannerChaser95 on November 08, 2017, 10:10:46 am
I never said anything about quitting sports.  Sports can teach kids lots of things.  Give it your all, in all you do.  That is what I say.  But I don't believe in school hopping just to get my kid on a better team.  I personally will never do that.  At the end of the day it is just sports.  You won't make a living at it, and there are lots of things more important.  And I love sports.....
I understand your side of things. I just am more talking to the people who think itís a sin someone moved their kids
Title: Re: 1A Recru... Legal move in
Post by: Bigleague on November 08, 2017, 10:12:33 am
I have a feeling bannerchasers didn't get much playing time
Title: Re: 1A Recru... Legal move in
Post by: BannerChaser95 on November 08, 2017, 10:13:43 am
I have a feeling bannerchasers didn't get much playing time
Negative,was the waterboy
Title: Re: 1A Recru... Legal move in
Post by: teamworkwins on November 08, 2017, 10:24:04 am
Each parent needs to do what's best for his/her kid. Sports are more important to some kids than others. Some kids love the game so much that it affects their self confidence, their grades, numerous aspects of their lives. We aren't all cut from the same cloth. If my child excels at sports and wants to play with a team that will make him/her better and give him/her a better shot at success, then I'm going to do what I can to make his/her dreams come true. There's plenty of disappointment in life already. Why not give them every tool to make their youth as enjoyable and memorable as possible? I love to listen to people who played in high school reminisce about the "good ole days." I have heard many say how badly they miss it.
Title: Re: 1A Recru... Legal move in
Post by: BannerChaser95 on November 08, 2017, 10:27:50 am
Each parent needs to do what's best for his/her kid. Sports are more important to some kids than others. Some kids love the game so much that it affects their self confidence, their grades, numerous aspects of their lives. We aren't all cut from the same cloth. If my child excels at sports and wants to play with a team that will make him/her better and give him/her a better shot at success, then I'm going to do what I can to make his/her dreams come true. There's plenty of disappointment in life already. Why not give them every tool to make their youth as enjoyable and memorable as possible? I love to listen to people who played in high school reminisce about the "good ole days." I have heard many say how badly they miss it.
+1. I donít see why itís the worst thing in the world a kid moves. Iíve seen kids move off for parents work and never pick up a ball again. But select parents are moving their kids to play ball and some people just canít stand it.
Title: Re: 1A Recru... Legal move in
Post by: no mascot on November 08, 2017, 10:30:35 am
That's where you have to be able to know what your personal beliefs in what success is.

I wasn't trying to start a recruiting war asking abt the move in at icc btw. I was just trying to find out if the rumors of a new kid was true.
Title: Re: 1A Recru... Legal move in
Post by: riccoar on November 08, 2017, 10:31:28 am
Well, correct me if I'm wrong, but a legal move into the district is the only way to be eligible without sitting.  If you do that for a child, just to be on a winning team, that's just sad.  Very poor display of parenting and setting a bad example for your children to follow.  Like most said, after they have graduated, it will just ring hollow.
Title: Re: 1A Recru... Legal move in
Post by: SackAttack on November 08, 2017, 10:33:44 am
Negative,was the waterboy
Of course I agree with Woodrow1 on this! BannerChasers duties as Director of Admissions at Kirby High School depends on him putting the best spin on this he can. Secondary duties mostly include trying to deflect all blame and attention away from MoonPie to little avail. Woodrow1 you make great points. I have not seen one single kid in ClassA play this year that will play after high school except for intramurals. School loyalty is gone like my paycheck! Community pride is a thing of the past so you have what we have now. Thank you AAA and the win at all costs guys out there chasing banners and rings!
Title: Re: 1A Recru... Legal move in
Post by: teamworkwins on November 08, 2017, 10:36:36 am
Well, correct me if I'm wrong, but a legal move into the district is the only way to be eligible without sitting.  If you do that for a child, just to be on a winning team, that's just sad.  Very poor display of parenting and setting a bad example for your children to follow.  Like most said, after they have graduated, it will just ring hollow.
Depends on when you move. If you have the foresight to do it in junior high (before start of 10th grade, and you do it before July 1 of the summer before, there is no sitting out.
Title: Re: 1A Recru... Legal move in
Post by: fann07 on November 08, 2017, 10:37:43 am
+1. I donít see why itís the worst thing in the world a kid moves. Iíve seen kids move off for parents work and never pick up a ball again. But select parents are moving their kids to play ball and some people just canít stand it.

Because moving for job is one thing. Moving to play ball according to AAA rules makes a kid ineligible. Your whole argument is based on a kid moving into your district to play basketball. That is illegal in terms of AAA eligibility.
Title: Re: 1A Recru... Legal move in
Post by: HorseFeathers on November 08, 2017, 10:38:01 am
Of course I agree with Woodrow1 on this! BannerChasers duties as Director of Admissions at Kirby High School depends on him putting the best spin on this he can. Secondary duties mostly include trying to deflect all blame and attention away from MoonPie to little avail. Woodrow1 you make great points. I have not seen one single kid in ClassA play this year that will play after high school except for intramurals. School loyalty is gone like my paycheck! Community pride is a thing of the past so you have what we have now. Thank you AAA and the win at all costs guys out there chasing banners and rings!

Used to be some pride playing for the name on the jersey....hometown hero etc etc...

Now we got kids driving past other high schools to go play for the district they "legally" live in..
Title: Re: 1A Recru... Legal move in
Post by: fann07 on November 08, 2017, 10:40:14 am
Used to be some pride playing for the name on the jersey....hometown hero etc etc...

Now we got kids driving past other high schools to go play for the district they "legally" live in..

Exactly. Where's the pride of working with your classmates and lifelong friends to represent your hometown. Everyone now wants instance gratification. High school sports isn't the NBA. 
Title: Re: 1A Recru... Legal move in
Post by: BannerChaser95 on November 08, 2017, 10:42:50 am
Used to be some pride playing for the name on the jersey....hometown hero etc etc...

Now we got kids driving past other high schools to go play for the district they "legally" live in..
ďMan I saw yíall lose by 40 yesterday, keep up the good workĒ -No one ever
Title: Re: 1A Recru... Legal move in
Post by: BannerChaser95 on November 08, 2017, 10:44:22 am
Of course I agree with Woodrow1 on this! BannerChasers duties as Director of Admissions at Kirby High School depends on him putting the best spin on this he can. Secondary duties mostly include trying to deflect all blame and attention away from MoonPie to little avail. Woodrow1 you make great points. I have not seen one single kid in ClassA play this year that will play after high school except for intramurals. School loyalty is gone like my paycheck! Community pride is a thing of the past so you have what we have now. Thank you AAA and the win at all costs guys out there chasing banners and rings!
Itís all bout how ya spin it brother!
Title: Re: 1A Recru... Legal move in
Post by: Moonshiner on November 08, 2017, 10:51:44 am
This is a hot topic some people take like the Bible Belt is about to lose its guns!
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Wow.  So Bible Belt and gun control are synonymous? 
I can't speak for anyone else on here, but I have personally witnessed a coach of one school having interviews with kids and their parents from a neighboring school.  I'm talking about a recruiting interview.  Three interviews in one week actually.  The moves were  bonafide "legal" moves.  With the exception of the behind the scenes/illegal meetings.  On paper it was legal.  The three players leaving decimated one program.  There was a fourth one that moved the next year.
So, moves done legally in every aspect, I have NO problem with.  It's where the receiving coach, or board member, or superintendent has taken an active role in bringing that kid in that I have a problem with.  One coach providing "affordable" housing is an example.
Title: Re: 1A Recru... Legal move in
Post by: BannerChaser95 on November 08, 2017, 10:56:46 am
This is a hot topic some people take like the Bible Belt is about to lose its guns!


Wow.  So Bible Belt and gun control are synonymous?
I can't speak for anyone else on here, but I have personally witnessed a coach of one school having interviews with kids and their parents from a neighboring school.  I'm talking about a recruiting interview.  Three interviews in one week actually.  The moves were  bonafide "legal" moves.  With the exception of the behind the scenes/illegal meetings.  On paper it was legal.  The three players leaving decimated one program.  There was a fourth one that moved the next year.
So, moves done legally in every aspect, I have NO problem with.  It's where the receiving coach, or board member, or superintendent has taken an active role in bringing that kid in that I have a problem with.  One coach providing "affordable" housing is an example.
The Bible Belts known to be 2nd amendment activist more often than not. Anyways I agree with the legal part. +1
Title: Re: 1A Recru... Legal move in
Post by: HorseFeathers on November 08, 2017, 11:02:03 am
*Moderator tone*

Keep the unrelated politics out of this guys...
Title: Re: 1A Recru... Legal move in
Post by: Backboard Shattered on November 08, 2017, 11:52:47 am
I never said anything about quitting sports.  Sports can teach kids lots of things.  Give it your all, in all you do.  That is what I say.  But I don't believe in school hopping just to get my kid on a better team.  I personally will never do that.  At the end of the day it is just sports.  You won't make a living at it, and there are lots of things more important.  And I love sports.....
High Seed Name
Title: Re: 1A Recru... Legal move in
Post by: thebigman3 on November 08, 2017, 12:29:06 pm
But see.. if guys like SackAttack had a kid move to their school and was really good..they would shut up. But no one wants to move to GFWS. Who iím assuming is your team..
Title: Re: 1A Recru... Legal move in
Post by: Woodrow1 on November 08, 2017, 12:39:20 pm
But see.. if guys like SackAttack had a kid move to their school and was really good..they would shut up. But no one wants to move to GFWS. Who iím assuming is your team..

If my school had a move in of course I would take it.  But I would still think it's ridiculous to move schools for your kid to be on a better team.  I only have a problem with it if that is the only reason they move.  Families have to move all the time because of work, family problems, health, etc. 
Title: Re: 1A Recru... Legal move in
Post by: thebigman3 on November 08, 2017, 12:57:57 pm
If my school had a move in of course I would take it.  But I would still think it's ridiculous to move schools for your kid to be on a better team.  I only have a problem with it if that is the only reason they move.  Families have to move all the time because of work, family problems, health, etc.
But you all just assume it's cause of ball. and whoever is saying 10 years from now it won't matter to you, then why are you on this website talking about high school sports if it doesn't matter. That guy came from a losers locker room. I myself have a ring, a State Championship basketball ring. I still talk about it with my friends and community and love that I was able to be apart of it.
Title: Re: 1A Recru... Legal move in
Post by: SackAttack on November 08, 2017, 01:03:04 pm
But see.. if guys like SackAttack had a kid move to their school and was really good..they would shut up. But no one wants to move to GFWS. Who iím assuming is your team..
Assume all you want! Assume everything you want! Its easy to fool lots of people! Yes Id take a move in if it was a move in. A kid living in Quitman but playing basketball at GFWS isn't a move in. A kid living in Mt.Vernon playing basketball at Guy isn't a move in. A kid living in Mayflower riding with the GP High School principal to school to play basketball at GP isn't a move in (past situation). Long story short I know all yalls tricks. and it appears I know a lot more about what really goes on there than you do. Perhaps I really live in Twin Groves! Perhaps I live on Copperhead Road (great song)!
Title: Re: 1A Recru... Legal move in
Post by: thebigman3 on November 08, 2017, 01:13:59 pm
Assume all you want! Assume everything you want! Its easy to fool lots of people! Yes Id take a move in if it was a move in. A kid living in Quitman but playing basketball at GFWS isn't a move in. A kid living in Mt.Vernon playing basketball at Guy isn't a move in. A kid living in Mayflower riding with the GP High School principal to school to play basketball at GP isn't a move in (past situation). Long story short I know all yalls tricks. and it appears I know a lot more about what really goes on there than you do. Perhaps I really live in Twin Groves! Perhaps I live on Copperhead Road (great song)!
If a kid lives in another district, but has went to another school his or her whole life that's not a problem. Moving schools isn't a problem. Every kid on the Guy roster lives in the district. Your just upset that no one wants to play for ya'll.
Title: Re: 1A Recru... Legal move in
Post by: SackAttack on November 08, 2017, 01:26:46 pm
If a kid lives in another district, but has went to another school his or her whole life that's not a problem. Moving schools isn't a problem. Every kid on the Guy roster lives in the district. Your just upset that no one wants to play for ya'll.
Y'all?? Who is Y'all? You have no idea where Im from! Like I said earlier I live in Twin Groves!
Title: Re: 1A Recru... Legal move in
Post by: BigLion10 on November 08, 2017, 01:29:11 pm
Its just funny how every year Guy has a few move ins that help the team a lot
Title: Re: 1A Recru... Legal move in
Post by: thebigman3 on November 08, 2017, 01:33:42 pm
Its just funny how every year Guy has a few move ins that help the team a lot
Who moved in last year on the State championship team?
Title: Re: 1A Recru... Legal move in
Post by: thebigman3 on November 08, 2017, 01:34:08 pm
Y'all?? Who is Y'all? You have no idea where Im from! Like I said earlier I live in Twin Groves!
Don't believe that for a second lol
Title: Re: 1A Recru... Legal move in
Post by: LaFlamaBlanca55 on November 08, 2017, 02:09:03 pm
This is a problem that will never be solved and extremely hard for the AAA to fairly regulate as almost each individual situation is different. There are just too many things that factor in to the "move-in" process. In my estimations around the late 90's and early 2000's this whole "move-in" for athletics debte became a big deal, you didnt hear about it as much back on a large scale then simply because the avenues of social media and participation in message boards werent as available as they are now. I said all that to say, it is something that never will stop especially in this day and age. 1.)  It is impossible for the AAA to truly regulate it fairly, 2.) the way parents and kids are today 3.) competition, if you aint cheatin, you aint competing or trying saying, coaches especially will always have the desire to be better, bigger, faster, stronger, than whoever their opponents are. 4.) you cant beat um so join um, it is almost impossible to win big today or compete at high levels without "recruiting" or figuring out ways around this broken regulation system, coaches, parents and players know and realize in order to beat the best that are doing it, you have to also to stay trully competitive. We might as well quit even debating whether its ok or not and focus time, energy and effort, in figuring out how to make whichever team we support, our kids play on, or we pull for better. It is what it is!
Title: Re: 1A Recru... Legal move in
Post by: Woodrow1 on November 08, 2017, 03:57:18 pm
But you all just assume it's cause of ball. and whoever is saying 10 years from now it won't matter to you, then why are you on this website talking about high school sports if it doesn't matter. That guy came from a losers locker room. I myself have a ring, a State Championship basketball ring. I still talk about it with my friends and community and love that I was able to be apart of it.

So if you live in a school district that has a team that has a losing record, then just move to a district that has a winning one?  Heck with that approach anyone can be a winner.  When things are tough, just move.  I'm not that kind of person. 
Title: Re: 1A Recru... Legal move in
Post by: Moonshiner on November 08, 2017, 04:05:16 pm
So if you live in a school district that has a team that has a losing record, then just move to a district that has a winning one?  Heck with that approach anyone can be a winner.  When things are tough, just move.  I'm not that kind of person.

The same reason people give a Kevin Durant and Lebron James grief. 
Title: Re: 1A Recru... Legal move in
Post by: SackAttack on November 08, 2017, 07:06:21 pm
So if you live in a school district that has a team that has a losing record, then just move to a district that has a winning one?  Heck with that approach anyone can be a winner.  When things are tough, just move.  I'm not that kind of person.
I call it "cheapened success"! But some obviously are okay with that!
Title: Re: 1A Recru... Legal move in
Post by: LHHC on November 08, 2017, 07:29:16 pm
So if you live in a school district that has a team that has a losing record, then just move to a district that has a winning one?  Heck with that approach anyone can be a winner.  When things are tough, just move.  I'm not that kind of person.


Probably most people that have done that voted for Killary! Haha
Title: Re: 1A Recru... Legal move in
Post by: thebigman3 on November 08, 2017, 07:34:01 pm
So if you live in a school district that has a team that has a losing record, then just move to a district that has a winning one?  Heck with that approach anyone can be a winner.  When things are tough, just move.  I'm not that kind of person.
ďaNyONe CaN bE a WInNeRĒ so youíre telling me teams like bradford, GFWS, and Lisa North are gonna be winners? 😂 I donít think so.
Title: Re: 1A Recru... Legal move in
Post by: BannerMountainMan on November 08, 2017, 07:43:38 pm
ďaNyONe CaN bE a WInNeRĒ so youíre telling me teams like bradford, GFWS, and Lisa North are gonna be winners? 😂 I donít think so.
I ThInK He Is taLkInG AbOuT PlAYeRs
Title: Re: 1A Recru... Legal move in
Post by: SackAttack on November 08, 2017, 08:01:14 pm
ďaNyONe CaN bE a WInNeRĒ so youíre telling me teams like bradford, GFWS, and Lisa North are gonna be winners? 😂 I donít think so.
So because your school has one ten rings and other schools have won one or none makes your school a winner and all others losers. thats like saying Hutch is a better coach than say Gayle Kaundart who won one. or John Widner who won one or Doyce Winninngham who won one or CD Taylor who won one or Joe Graham who won one or Joe Mallett who won one or Jim Pennington who won one.or Gerald Vines who won one. Yes Im name dropping because I can and if you don't know who those guys are then you cant call yourself a true fan. Credibility lost. and I like to win arguments especially against people who base opinions on what happened yesterday or last year! By the way if there was a Mt Rushmore of high school basketball coaches that would be the group you'd start with. So 10 does not make you a winner its more about how you do it!
Title: Re: 1A Recru... Legal move in
Post by: Moonshiner on November 08, 2017, 09:02:30 pm
I think of guys like Steve Lynch.  Arguably the best you'll find in any classification as a coach.  So far he has yet to win one.  Does that make him a loser?  I'd say he has forgotten more about the game than most of the cheaters have ever even known. 
But he won't be out there offering kids trailer houses to live in.  He has ethics that he believes in.
Title: Re: 1A Recru... Legal move in
Post by: SackAttack on November 08, 2017, 09:05:26 pm
I think of guys like Steve Lynch.  Arguably the best you'll find in any classification as a coach.  So far he has yet to win one.  Does that make him a loser?  I'd say he has forgotten more about the game than most of the cheaters have ever even known. 
But he won't be out there offering kids trailer houses to live in.  He has ethics that he believes in.
Agreed!
Title: Re: 1A Recru... Legal move in
Post by: thebigman3 on November 08, 2017, 10:13:51 pm
I ThInK He Is taLkInG AbOuT PlAYeRs
In that case. I guess I can understand that. but itís harder for players to be recognized if on a bad team.
Title: Re: 1A Recru... Legal move in
Post by: thebigman3 on November 08, 2017, 10:21:45 pm
So because your school has one ten rings and other schools have won one or none makes your school a winner and all others losers. thats like saying Hutch is a better coach than say Gayle Kaundart who won one. or John Widner who won one or Doyce Winninngham who won one or CD Taylor who won one or Joe Graham who won one or Joe Mallett who won one or Jim Pennington who won one.or Gerald Vines who won one. Yes Im name dropping because I can and if you don't know who those guys are then you cant call yourself a true fan. Credibility lost. and I like to win arguments especially against people who base opinions on what happened yesterday or last year! By the way if there was a Mt Rushmore of high school basketball coaches that would be the group you'd start with. So 10 does not make you a winner its more about how you do it!
well.. Winning 10 rings does make you a winner.. idc what you say. Move ins or not. Those kids have to have guidance and a coach to coach them and lead them the way. It takes a team. Even the kids that donít get to play are a huge part of the team. The kids that donít play have to practice with the kids that do. They make them better and encourage them. I understand all those coaches are great coaches and winners as well. But you mean to tell me winning 10 rings is not a winner? Winning almost near 2000 games isnít winning?😂 I understand your a Guy hater and all, but you gotta give credit where credit is due. and that is something you do to everyone but Guy!😂😂
Title: Re: 1A Recru... Legal move in
Post by: ZacAttack on November 08, 2017, 10:41:09 pm
In that case. I guess I can understand that. but itís harder for players to be recognized if on a bad team.
I would think a really good player would be EASILY recognized on a bad team.  Plus, summer ball is where the players are scouted.  That is a unregulated meat factory!
Title: Re: 1A Recru... Legal move in
Post by: dentist15 on November 09, 2017, 07:50:21 am
So because your school has one ten rings and other schools have won one or none makes your school a winner and all others losers. thats like saying Hutch is a better coach than say Gayle Kaundart who won one. or John Widner who won one or Doyce Winninngham who won one or CD Taylor who won one or Joe Graham who won one or Joe Mallett who won one or Jim Pennington who won one.or Gerald Vines who won one. Yes Im name dropping because I can and if you don't know who those guys are then you cant call yourself a true fan. Credibility lost. and I like to win arguments especially against people who base opinions on what happened yesterday or last year! By the way if there was a Mt Rushmore of high school basketball coaches that would be the group you'd start with. So 10 does not make you a winner its more about how you do it!

Don't forget, Kaundart also won a JuCo National Championship at Westark (now UAFS), and while at Westark he was the D-League for Eddie Sutton's Razorback teams in the 70's and early 80's....
Title: Re: 1A Recru... Legal move in
Post by: LeftyWorld on November 09, 2017, 08:08:07 am
One things that needs to be taken into account is what kind of program are these kids coming from and going to? If its a program with little support, little excitement, a style of play they dont like or dont excel in, little expectations, then its hard to ask a 14,15,16,17 year old kid to stay there and try to change all of that in hopes by the time they are a senior they are relevant. Especially when I am sure they have seen some talented players come through and change nothing. High school is about getting and education and having fun. For most athletes their fun comes through playing sports and having a great time while doing it. When they are not having fun in athletics they will usually resort in something else usually something frowned upon to have fun. Either way a high school kid is not going to stay miserable nor should anyone ask them to. High school is short and you should have a blast while your their as an athlete. If a kid is at a school and miserable playing for his/her team yet they love the game then they need to go somewhere where they can excel on and off the court. Just my opinion
Title: Re: 1A Recru... Legal move in
Post by: teamworkwins on November 09, 2017, 08:30:20 am
One things that needs to be taken into account is what kind of program are these kids coming from and going to? If its a program with little support, little excitement, a style of play they dont like or dont excel in, little expectations, then its hard to ask a 14,15,16,17 year old kid to stay there and try to change all of that in hopes by the time they are a senior they are relevant. Especially when I am sure they have seen some talented players come through and change nothing. High school is about getting and education and having fun. For most athletes their fun comes through playing sports and having a great time while doing it. When they are not having fun in athletics they will usually resort in something else usually something frowned upon to have fun. Either way a high school kid is not going to stay miserable nor should anyone ask them to. High school is short and you should have a blast while your their as an athlete. If a kid is at a school and miserable playing for his/her team yet they love the game then they need to go somewhere where they can excel on and off the court. Just my opinion
+1
Title: Re: 1A Recru... Legal move in
Post by: Backboard Shattered on November 09, 2017, 09:07:06 am
If your not good enough to win at your school I suggest move to another school and win.  Most kids arenít very good so just move and be remembered for moving trying to be be good somewhere else.  Jordan Magic and Bird shouldíve played together that way they couldíve won.  Loyalty means nothing to parents coaches and players today.  Iím just glad as I sit in the stands at Brady Hipp Backboard Ernest Lion Central Whillock Dazzler McCarthy White Areuinme Shady Sack Horsemen Arena ppl know I stayed loyal!  Wait a sec those great players were loyal!  Never mind!  Carry on!
Title: Re: 1A Recru... Legal move in
Post by: SackAttack on November 09, 2017, 09:15:06 am
well.. Winning 10 rings does make you a winner.. idc what you say. Move ins or not. Those kids have to have guidance and a coach to coach them and lead them the way. It takes a team. Even the kids that donít get to play are a huge part of the team. The kids that donít play have to practice with the kids that do. They make them better and encourage them. I understand all those coaches are great coaches and winners as well. But you mean to tell me winning 10 rings is not a winner? Winning almost near 2000 games isnít winning?😂 I understand your a Guy hater and all, but you gotta give credit where credit is due. and that is something you do to everyone but Guy!😂😂
Credit given for every legitimate championship they've won. Both of them! Kudos to those homegrown kids that paid the price and did it the right way. So there! Those other eight no way. Your reference was that winning 10 somehow made you more of a winner than those that have won one or only a few and that simply isn't true! And I know that for a fact you sir have no clue who those other men I mentioned are or anything about their legacy and their impact on the game of basketball! Don't pretend that you do! Several of those men are now gone but their legacy lives on. what will Hutchs legacy be outside of Guy. What is it in heber Springs? In Hot Springs? In Mt Vernon? In Sacred heart? Concord? Omaha? Those rings won't mean much when gone but legacy and reputation will! To argue with a lifelong basketball junkie as myself is futile! Arguments that you simply cannot win! AS far as the subs go being part of the team Im guessing you are referring to those 7 or 8 kids that dont even stay in the locker room with the starters at halftime to receive that expert advice and coaching tips that is surely going on in there!  ::) ::) ::) Yeah those poor kids now I get it.
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Post by: SackAttack on November 09, 2017, 09:32:15 am
If your not good enough to win at your school I suggest move to another school and win.  Most kids arenít very good so just move and be remembered for moving trying to be be good somewhere else.  Jordan Magic and Bird shouldíve played together that way they couldíve won.  Loyalty means nothing to parents coaches and players today.  Iím just glad as I sit in the stands at Brady Hipp Backboard Ernest Lion Central Whillock Dazzler McCarthy White Areuinme Shady Sack Horsemen Arena ppl know I stayed loyal!  Wait a sec those great players were loyal!  Never mind!  Carry on!
this post will sail right over most peoples heads but well played sir well played for you are the epitome of loyalty
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Post by: thebigman3 on November 09, 2017, 09:34:15 am
Credit given for every legitimate championship they've won. Both of them! Kudos to those homegrown kids that paid the price and did it the right way. So there! Those other eight no way. Your reference was that winning 10 somehow made you more of a winner than those that have won one or only a few and that simply isn't true! And I know that for a fact you sir have no clue who those other men I mentioned are or anything about their legacy and their impact on the game of basketball! Don't pretend that you do! Several of those men are now gone but their legacy lives on. what will Hutchs legacy be outside of Guy. What is it in heber Springs? In Hot Springs? In Mt Vernon? In Sacred heart? Concord? Omaha? Those rings won't mean much when gone but legacy and reputation will! To argue with a lifelong basketball junkie as myself is futile! Arguments that you simply cannot win! AS far as the subs go being part of the team Im guessing you are referring to those 7 or 8 kids that dont even stay in the locker room with the starters at halftime to receive that expert advice and coaching tips that is surely going on in there!  ::) ::) ::) Yeah those poor kids now I get it.
I don't know what your grudge against Hutch is? HE IS A WINNER. 10 rings, he will get 2000 wins, apart of the USA basketball team, don't forget he also has 2 State Softball Championship rings, 20 finals appearances in 40 years not even counting how many times he's went to the State tournament and schools put banners up for that stuff nowadays. and let's not forget McDonald's All American Coach ;). Yet he's not a winner? And as far a his legacy living "outside of Guy" I would almost guarantee you anyone who keeps up with basketball in Arkansas knows John Hutchcraft. Anywhere i go in Arkansas and say I'm from Guy I always get that " Oh do you know John Hutchcraft?" Give me a break. He'll be in the Arkansas Basketball HOF. He's got the perfect resume'. You sit back and watch GFWS keep losing and I'll be watching my Thunderbirds keep winning. And his legacy will live on Hot Springs, shoot he's been there plenty of times ;)
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Post by: not so slim shady on November 09, 2017, 09:36:09 am
There are a couple of issues that need to be considered: 1) Sports are EXTRA Curriculuar- completely voluntary, not required in any way. Schools are designed for education and sports are extra- if you don't like the coach and don't love the game....don't play.

As far as switching schools- as long as the legislature allows (and encourages) school choice....the AAA is just following suit. Just my opinion.
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Post by: Backboard Shattered on November 09, 2017, 09:40:06 am
Does Hutch really have the bench kids stay on the bench at halftime?  Wow!  That sucks for them
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Post by: Woodrow1 on November 09, 2017, 10:02:05 am
There are a couple of issues that need to be considered: 1) Sports are EXTRA Curriculuar- completely voluntary, not required in any way. Schools are designed for education and sports are extra- if you don't like the coach and don't love the game....don't play.

As far as switching schools- as long as the legislature allows (and encourages) school choice....the AAA is just following suit. Just my opinion.

You are exactly right, but like I said.  I will not move my kids to play on a "winning" team.  That is the easy way out in my opinion.
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Post by: HorseFeathers on November 09, 2017, 10:56:15 am
Does Hutch really have the bench kids stay on the bench at halftime?  Wow!  That sucks for them

They do a shoot around....If the game isn't close, hutch has been known to sit in the crowd or on the bench during the half
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Post by: SackAttack on November 09, 2017, 11:16:57 am
I don't know what your grudge against Hutch is? HE IS A WINNER. 10 rings, he will get 2000 wins, apart of the USA basketball team, don't forget he also has 2 State Softball Championship rings, 20 finals appearances in 40 years not even counting how many times he's went to the State tournament and schools put banners up for that stuff nowadays. and let's not forget McDonald's All American Coach ;). Yet he's not a winner? And as far a his legacy living "outside of Guy" I would almost guarantee you anyone who keeps up with basketball in Arkansas knows John Hutchcraft. Anywhere i go in Arkansas and say I'm from Guy I always get that " Oh do you know John Hutchcraft?" Give me a break. He'll be in the Arkansas Basketball HOF. He's got the perfect resume'. You sit back and watch GFWS keep losing and I'll be watching my Thunderbirds keep winning. And his legacy will live on Hot Springs, shoot he's been there plenty of times ;)
You don't get it ---Im not arguing the numbers Im arguing the method and the process! Its a really simple concept---the AAA let him get away with it in his early years and now its done as a habit. Plain and simple. he's been caught several times yet continues on business as usual. yes LOL everybody knows Hutch and his legacy and yes theres is probably about 60-70 Hall of Fame votes on the Conway(daughters school) and Fayetteville(favorite sons) school and it takes what maybe 25 to get in so yeah he's in most likely --again cheaply very cheaply but he's in! I'm moving on the rest of y'all have fun
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Post by: SackAttack on November 09, 2017, 11:18:03 am
Does Hutch really have the bench kids stay on the bench at halftime?  Wow!  That sucks for them
Yes they do!!! Its sad to even think about!
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Post by: BannerMountainMan on November 09, 2017, 11:21:31 am
Yes they do!!! Its sad to even think about!
he doesn't want them to hear his halftime speech of saying go Run and gun and snowbird
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Post by: thebigman3 on November 09, 2017, 01:00:33 pm
You don't get it ---Im not arguing the numbers Im arguing the method and the process! Its a really simple concept---the AAA let him get away with it in his early years and now its done as a habit. Plain and simple. he's been caught several times yet continues on business as usual. yes LOL everybody knows Hutch and his legacy and yes theres is probably about 60-70 Hall of Fame votes on the Conway(daughters school) and Fayetteville(favorite sons) school and it takes what maybe 25 to get in so yeah he's in most likely --again cheaply very cheaply but he's in! I'm moving on the rest of y'all have fun
I've never heard of a bigger hater. You change up what your arguing with every time I come back with something. Your acting like these kids do it by themselves. That they don't need him, when obviously they do. You argue about stuff you don't even know. and that's what amazes me! He's not an X's and O's coach I'll agree. But he knows the game and how it works. He knows when to call timeouts and change the momentum. He knows who to give the ball to when and where. He knows his players strengths and weaknesses. I can't argue with you much more on this, because you just cannot give credit to Guy or Hutch.
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Post by: BannerChaser95 on November 09, 2017, 01:01:36 pm
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Post by: ErnestTBass on November 09, 2017, 04:08:27 pm
Ok Iím getting in on this late but Iím not seeing what SA has posted as being false and him not knowing what he is talking about! Iíve read the entire thread twice and I canít find any falsehoods but Iím not as up to speed in the game as I used to be prior to my long vacation! Moonshiner and HF tell us if you see any falsehoods in the posts! Iím curious to know so I can fashion my own argument! I find this a very interesting topic! Bigman seems to be speaking from blind loyalty and is clearly in the minority while the majority seem to speak of facts and observations! One thing is for certain Hutchcraft probably wouldnít appreciate all this attention on a message board! Canít help their cause any! Again Moonshiner and HF what say you guys!!
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Post by: thebigman3 on November 09, 2017, 04:15:26 pm
Ok Iím getting in on this late but Iím not seeing what SA has posted as being false and him not knowing what he is talking about! Iíve read the entire thread twice and I canít find any falsehoods but Iím not as up to speed in the game as I used to be prior to my long vacation! Moonshiner and HF tell us if you see any falsehoods in the posts! Iím curious to know so I can fashion my own argument! I find this a very interesting topic! Bigman seems to be speaking from blind loyalty and is clearly in the minority while the majority seem to speak of facts and observations! One thing is for certain Hutchcraft probably wouldnít appreciate all this attention on a message board! Canít help their cause any! Again Moonshiner and HF what say you guys!!
What have I spoke wrongly on? Please fill me in Ernest. I admit when iím wrong.
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Post by: Moonshiner on November 09, 2017, 04:25:22 pm
I think everyone is entitled to their opinion.  Bigman has obvious loyalties to Guy.  I will have to say that 99% of the time I cringe when I'm reading a post by Sack.  However....when he feels strongly about a topic he usually makes valid points and argues those points well.  To me, having been around Class A (B) basketball all my life, I feel that move ins have a bigger effect on smaller schools than they do in say a 4 or 5A setting.  When a school has a solid group, and then benefits from gaining two or three players every year or so move in......it really throws the natural balance out of whack.  Most class A schools only have two or three suds. If that many. 
The sad thing is a school like Concord, or Jasper has an extra special season, with the players they developed on their own, and they get their hopes up that this is their year.....and outta nowhere comes a school that is infused with immediate talent and is dream team unbeatable.  What's right about that?
Again, we are talking about the schools who can't win it unless they steal players from other schools.  Not saying players aren't allowed to transfer.  It's the coaches, superintendents, principals, board members etc...that actively help these moves happen.
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Post by: SackAttack on November 09, 2017, 04:50:40 pm
I think everyone is entitled to their opinion.  Bigman has obvious loyalties to Guy.  I will have to say that 99% of the time I cringe when I'm reading a post by Sack.  However....when he feels strongly about a topic he usually makes valid points and argues those points well.  To me, having been around Class A (B) basketball all my life, I feel that move ins have a bigger effect on smaller schools than they do in say a 4 or 5A setting.  When a school has a solid group, and then benefits from gaining two or three players every year or so move in......it really throws the natural balance out of whack.  Most class A schools only have two or three suds. If that many. 
The sad thing is a school like Concord, or Jasper has an extra special season, with the players they developed on their own, and they get their hopes up that this is their year.....and outta nowhere comes a school that is infused with immediate talent and is dream team unbeatable.  What's right about that?
Again, we are talking about the schools who can't win it unless they steal players from other schools.  Not saying players aren't allowed to transfer.  It's the coaches, superintendents, principals, board members etc...that actively help these moves happen.
So I made a 1% improvement wow Am I now in the running for Most Improved Poster. Im really quite well versed on all things class A basketball even though I tug on people just a little. My posts are never researched quite the contrary they are based on actual conversations with coaches and fans and referees and media types admin and school board members! If I post it factually you can take it to the bank or liquor store or wherever you choose as the truth! Yes admin has much to do with shady dealings I couldn't agree more! But we ignore that aspect or run and hide from it under the guise of success! Thank you Moonshiner! Me and you can see eye to chin on some things!
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Post by: SackAttack on November 09, 2017, 04:54:55 pm
What have I spoke wrongly on? Please fill me in Ernest. I admit when iím wrong.
Ill post later
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Post by: thebigman3 on November 09, 2017, 05:02:57 pm
Ill post later
I didnít ask you.
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Post by: yesteryearman on November 09, 2017, 05:05:03 pm
I think everyone is entitled to their opinion.  Bigman has obvious loyalties to Guy.  I will have to say that 99% of the time I cringe when I'm reading a post by Sack.  However....when he feels strongly about a topic he usually makes valid points and argues those points well.  To me, having been around Class A (B) basketball all my life, I feel that move ins have a bigger effect on smaller schools than they do in say a 4 or 5A setting.  When a school has a solid group, and then benefits from gaining two or three players every year or so move in......it really throws the natural balance out of whack.  Most class A schools only have two or three suds. If that many. 
The sad thing is a school like Concord, or Jasper has an extra special season, with the players they developed on their own, and they get their hopes up that this is their year.....and outta nowhere comes a school that is infused with immediate talent and is dream team unbeatable.  What's right about that?
Again, we are talking about the schools who can't win it unless they steal players from other schools.  Not saying players aren't allowed to transfer.  It's the coaches, superintendents, principals, board members etc...that actively help these moves happen.

Will any of this really matter in 2017-2018?  Based on past history and what I have read on here, Kirby will make it to the semi's and lose and Guy will win the tournament.  County Line, Nevada, Marvell, Shirley, Omaha, etc all appear to have good teams, some have better coaching than others, some more talented than others, some more disciplined than others, and they have a shot at joining Kirby and Guy in the final four.  Some of which may be playing guys who have been together since 6th grade, some may have junior and senior move-ins.  Right now, the way the rules are, it won't really matter...all that matters is the team that they put on the floor, and most folks only remember the champion...a few remember the runner-up.  So, I say, let it play out, Guy wins and everybody goes home.  As an aside, I just wonder how many move-ins, Parkdale, Carthage, McNeil, Violet Hill, Viola, Delight, Saratoga, Greers Ferry, Emerson, Viola, etc had in the years they were champions........
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Post by: SackAttack on November 09, 2017, 05:11:33 pm
Hand up !! me me me me pick me!! Answer is zero and only us basketball purists and do right guys get it!!
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Post by: ErnestTBass on November 09, 2017, 05:24:19 pm
What have I spoke wrongly on? Please fill me in Ernest. I admit when iím wrong.
No no I wasnít talking about you I was trying to ascertain (pronounced rear- certane)whether Sack Attack was speaking in factual terms! Iíll get to you later! I wanted the opinions of other informed posters on this subject as I find it fascinating!. Great debate! Donít be so defensive for it ruins your stance and argument! IF Hutch cheated in any form in the past then he deserved to pay the price! IF heís cheating now and bending rules then he deserves to be busted again! That is only fair according to fair play and rules enforcement! And Iím pretty positive thereís a track record that speaks loudly to bending the rules and at least in two cases breaking them! Again donít get defensive for it ruins your stance! HF where are you?
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Post by: BannerMountainMan on November 09, 2017, 05:35:43 pm
I didnít ask you.
sometimes it's hard to log in on the right account Bigman
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Post by: HorseFeathers on November 09, 2017, 05:49:46 pm
No no I wasnít talking about you I was trying to ascertain (pronounced rear- certane)whether Sack Attack was speaking in factual terms! Iíll get to you later! I wanted the opinions of other informed posters on this subject as I find it fascinating!. Great debate! Donít be so defensive for it ruins your stance and argument! IF Hutch cheated in any form in the past then he deserved to pay the price! IF heís cheating now and bending rules then he deserves to be busted again! That is only fair according to fair play and rules enforcement! And Iím pretty positive thereís a track record that speaks loudly to bending the rules and at least in two cases breaking them! Again donít get defensive for it ruins your stance! HF where are you?

Shhhh..... Gunsmoke is on
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Post by: Hero of Twin Groves on November 09, 2017, 05:56:10 pm
There have been times over the years that I have been surprised we made it through. Hutch always comes out smelling like roses though.
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Post by: Backboard Shattered on November 09, 2017, 06:26:17 pm
There have been times over the years that I have been surprised we made it through. Hutch always comes out smelling like roses though.
I believe Hutch understands the game and is great at getting kids to move in.  I agree with earlier post without kids moving in he might have 2-3 rings.  At least a few teams over the years done it the right way!  Loyalty is special
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Post by: thebigman3 on November 09, 2017, 10:08:55 pm
No no I wasnít talking about you I was trying to ascertain (pronounced rear- certane)whether Sack Attack was speaking in factual terms! Iíll get to you later! I wanted the opinions of other informed posters on this subject as I find it fascinating!. Great debate! Donít be so defensive for it ruins your stance and argument! IF Hutch cheated in any form in the past then he deserved to pay the price! IF heís cheating now and bending rules then he deserves to be busted again! That is only fair according to fair play and rules enforcement! And Iím pretty positive thereís a track record that speaks loudly to bending the rules and at least in two cases breaking them! Again donít get defensive for it ruins your stance! HF where are you?
I wasnít getting defensive. I can see how someone reading that would think that. But I just want you to speak and not Sack bc I cannot stand him any longer. And if yíall are just so sure heís cheating this why donít you just turn him in and see what happens? Nothing will happen. Call again next year.
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Post by: SackAttack on November 09, 2017, 10:47:51 pm
There have been times over the years that I have been surprised we made it through. Hutch always comes out smelling like roses though.
Whats up neighbor?Can you please return my chainsaw! Did y'all ever get all that pasture bush hogged? We gotta get together and get to a few games! Ill buy the beverages! I wouldn't call it smelling like roses but yeah it does smell!
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Post by: riccoar on November 10, 2017, 11:02:48 am
In a couple years, GFWS will have a boy's team to talk about.  I believe Guy got to see them earlier this year.  The Junior Boy's team, to my knowledge have yet to be defeated.  Beat Quitman by 46.
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Post by: BannerMountainMan on November 10, 2017, 11:33:38 am
In a couple years, GFWS will have a boy's team to talk about.  I believe Guy got to see them earlier this year.  The Junior Boy's team, to my knowledge have yet to be defeated.  Beat Quitman by 46.
Hutch just might have to stay to get a few of their boys
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Post by: fann07 on November 10, 2017, 11:57:49 am
In a couple years, GFWS will have a boy's team to talk about.  I believe Guy got to see them earlier this year.  The Junior Boy's team, to my knowledge have yet to be defeated.  Beat Quitman by 46.

How many game have they played? Like 4 or 5?
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Post by: Neckred on November 10, 2017, 01:51:28 pm
What do you do if you have a kid who loves basketball but the coach is incompetent and doesn't care?  I've seen this a lot when kids move.  Don't blame them at all. 
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Post by: SackAttack on November 10, 2017, 01:59:32 pm
Hutch just might have to stay to get a few of their boys
Good one BMM
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Post by: lineman76 on November 10, 2017, 04:12:22 pm
What do you do if you have a kid who loves basketball but the coach is incompetent and doesn't care?  I've seen this a lot when kids move.  Don't blame them at all.
it shouldnít matter a kid should play in the district his family lives in unless his parents teach at a different school district. Moving around to get a better team should not be allowed but the AAA still allows it so some teams are going to take advantage of it.
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Post by: HorseFeathers on November 10, 2017, 04:18:01 pm
What do you do if you have a kid who loves basketball but the coach is incompetent and doesn't care?  I've seen this a lot when kids move.  Don't blame them at all. 

Most quit
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Post by: fann07 on November 10, 2017, 05:38:35 pm
What do you do if you have a kid who loves basketball but the coach is incompetent and doesn't care?  I've seen this a lot when kids move.  Don't blame them at all.

Yeah! blame the coaches! Everyone knows they don't put Johnny in the right spot to be successful.
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Post by: BannerChaser95 on November 10, 2017, 07:22:01 pm
Yeah! blame the coaches! Everyone knows they don't put Johnny in the right spot to be successful.
You surely canít rhink every coach out their knows exactly what theyíre doing? Some arenít great fits, some make dumb decisions. I saw an Oden coach call 5 time outs in the first 3 minutes... Hes no longer employed there, but he obviously was making great decisions lol
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Post by: BannerMountainMan on November 11, 2017, 08:46:47 am
it shouldnít matter a kid should play in the district his family lives in unless his parents teach at a different school district. Moving around to get a better team should not be allowed but the AAA still allows it so some teams are going to take advantage of it.
+83
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Post by: Eagle_Mom_2 on November 11, 2017, 09:38:13 am
Tribe story once say...big man eat big crow.

So far, I've not seen or heard from big man following the game last night.

What do you call the father of a godfather?
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Post by: thebigman3 on November 11, 2017, 12:45:53 pm
Tribe story once say...big man eat big crow.

So far, I've not seen or heard from big man following the game last night.

What do you call the father of a godfather?
Sorry I donít live on this site. Like I told Backboard. Itís a busy day. First day of deer season and Razorbacks are playing LSU.
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Post by: Eagle_Mom_2 on November 11, 2017, 12:47:41 pm
Sorry I donít live on this site. Like I told Backboard. Itís a busy day. First day of deer season and Razorbacks are playing LSU.

Big man, you know I'm just kidding with you. Woo Piggies
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Post by: SackAttack on November 11, 2017, 04:14:23 pm
Did y'all see my other post? Guy getting another move in! Out of state. Very very reliable source. This lady knows everybody and everything that goes on over there. But at least this is most likely legit. After his football season is over!
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Post by: thebigman3 on November 11, 2017, 04:16:59 pm
Did y'all see my other post? Guy getting another move in! Out of state. Very very reliable source. This lady knows everybody and everything that goes on over there. But at least this is most likely legit. After his football season is over!
Havent heard nothing on this. And iím sure I wouldíve. This small town likes to talk abt stuff like that.
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Post by: SackAttack on November 11, 2017, 04:37:28 pm
Havent heard nothing on this. And iím sure I wouldíve. This small town likes to talk abt stuff like that.
better ask around then. this source is very reliable. maybe you aren't as high up as she is! Hutch might be trying to keep this one down low for a few more weeks
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Post by: thebigman3 on November 11, 2017, 04:51:01 pm
better ask around then. this source is very reliable. maybe you aren't as high up as she is! Hutch might be trying to keep this one down low for a few more weeks
I donít think he goes on a mission out of state to get players😂
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Post by: SackAttack on November 11, 2017, 05:09:43 pm
I donít think he goes on a mission out of state to get players😂
Laugh all you want there! This one is legit unlike the others! This one is coming free will. Probably even won't have to rent one of the trailer houses! How is it that Im more in the loop than you are. Perhaps I do really live close by. But believe whatever you want. Tell him hero of Twin Groves! Go on and tell him
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Post by: Ramrod on November 11, 2017, 07:09:35 pm
Laugh all you want there! This one is legit unlike the others! This one is coming free will. Probably even won't have to rent one of the trailer houses! How is it that Im more in the loop than you are. Perhaps I do really live close by. But believe whatever you want. Tell him hero of Twin Groves! Go on and tell him

You litterally are just trying to Start stuff at this point. There is no move ins going to guy everyone would know by now. Not a single person does so how about you go back to "reliable" source you say you have and tell them they just need to keep their mouths shut about things they dont actually know.
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Post by: Backboard Shattered on November 11, 2017, 08:35:58 pm
You litterally are just trying to Start stuff at this point. There is no move ins going to guy everyone would know by now. Not a single person does so how about you go back to "reliable" source you say you have and tell them they just need to keep their mouths shut about things they dont actually know.
I believe he was saying this move in was going to be a legit move in.  Like wasnít cheating like all the other move ins. Donít think he meant it bad
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Post by: Ramrod on November 11, 2017, 10:42:33 pm
I believe he was saying this move in was going to be a legit move in.  Like wasnít cheating like all the other move ins. Donít think he meant it bad

But guy still isn't getting any move ins though.
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Post by: thebigman3 on November 12, 2017, 01:52:30 am
Laugh all you want there! This one is legit unlike the others! This one is coming free will. Probably even won't have to rent one of the trailer houses! How is it that Im more in the loop than you are. Perhaps I do really live close by. But believe whatever you want. Tell him hero of Twin Groves! Go on and tell him
Trust me... Iím very in the loop of all things Guy-Perkins.
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Post by: Backboard Shattered on November 12, 2017, 08:08:35 am
Trust me... Iím very in the loop of all things Guy-Perkins.
And enjoys breakfast from manly women!  How many move ins has Guy had the last 3 Years?
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Post by: Ramrod on November 12, 2017, 08:28:45 am
And enjoys breakfast from manly women!  How many move ins has Guy had the last 3 Years?

Again with the move ins, you guys are just jealous that Guy is winning and that you are trash and that no one wants to move to your school so you guys can start winning. Just shut up about the move ins.
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Post by: Backboard Shattered on November 12, 2017, 09:03:44 am
Do you know the number of the last 3 Years move ins?  I was just wondering yíall know so much about the program just wanting a def number from the source about the move ins
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Post by: Ramrod on November 12, 2017, 09:48:41 am
Do you know the number of the last 3 Years move ins?  I was just wondering yíall know so much about the program just wanting a def number from the source about the move ins

Technically 4 but one barely played so really only 3
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Post by: thebigman3 on November 12, 2017, 10:20:27 am
And enjoys breakfast from manly women!  How many move ins has Guy had the last 3 Years?
3. That have started and made a difference.
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Post by: lineman76 on November 12, 2017, 11:07:24 am
Again with the move ins, you guys are just jealous that Guy is winning and that you guys are just so trash that no one wants to move to your school so you guys can start winning. Just shut up about the move ins.
calling a School trash because they donít get move ins very classy my friend would be nice to see a School wine state without them though
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Post by: lineman76 on November 12, 2017, 11:24:23 am
Who in
The top 5 doesnít have move ins playing
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Post by: SackAttack on November 12, 2017, 12:03:24 pm
Who in
The top 5 doesnít have move ins playing
Im not sure since with Guys loss to Bay they have dropped out of the Top 5! Kirby now takes over the top spot with 4 move ins and icc with two I believe. I currently have Guy ranked 6th on my ballot with "struggle wins' over Wonderview and Maumelle Charter and the loss to a bay that is doooowwwwnnn. LOLOLOLOL Really
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Post by: thebigman3 on November 12, 2017, 12:26:14 pm
Im not sure since with Guys loss to Bay they have dropped out of the Top 5! Kirby now takes over the top spot with 4 move ins and icc with two I believe. I currently have Guy ranked 6th on my ballot with "struggle wins' over Wonderview and Maumelle Charter and the loss to a bay that is doooowwwwnnn. LOLOLOLOL Really
Maulmelle Charter is good. Like I said most improved team this year. WV Guy shouldíve beat worse than they did. The Bay loss bay just outplayed Guy that night. Guy is the better team. But not when theyíre heads arenít on straight. And Sack, just cause a good team loses to an average team doesnít mean you count them out yet. Remember Guy lost to your eagles first game last year. and whoís got the ring on their finger rn
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Post by: Ramrod on November 12, 2017, 01:16:50 pm
Maulmelle Charter is good. Like I said most improved team this year. WV Guy shouldíve beat worse than they did. The Bay loss bay just outplayed Guy that night. Guy is the better team. But not when theyíre heads arenít on straight. And Sack, just cause a good team loses to an average team doesnít mean you count them out yet. Remember Guy lost to your eagles first game last year. and whoís got the ring on their finger rn

+1
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Post by: SackAttack on November 12, 2017, 01:44:32 pm
Maulmelle Charter is good. Like I said most improved team this year. WV Guy shouldíve beat worse than they did. The Bay loss bay just outplayed Guy that night. Guy is the better team. But not when theyíre heads arenít on straight. And Sack, just cause a good team loses to an average team doesnít mean you count them out yet. Remember Guy lost to your eagles first game last year. and whoís got the ring on their finger rn
Again dude I am not from Greers Ferry unless Im fishing under the Narrows Bridge if you know what I mean or having a beverage at the Yacht Club. The Eagles I have no ownership in! Guy squarely at #6 in the rankings!Struggle wins are struggle wins if ya know what I mean!
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Post by: thebigman3 on November 12, 2017, 01:52:14 pm
Again dude I am not from Greers Ferry unless Im fishing under the Narrows Bridge if you know what I mean or having a beverage at the Yacht Club. The Eagles I have no ownership in! Guy squarely at #6 in the rankings!Struggle wins are struggle wins if ya know what I mean!
Yeah Iím picking up what your putting down. But if Guy is at 6 whoís top 5 now?
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Post by: HorseFeathers on November 12, 2017, 03:28:04 pm
I'd have Omaha at #1 before Kirby....Kirby lost to valley springs on a neutral court....Omaha beat valley at their place.

1. Omaha
2. Kirby
3. ICC
4. County Line(never hear of any moveins over there?)
5. Take your pick here?
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Post by: BannerMountainMan on November 12, 2017, 03:31:34 pm
I'd have Omaha at #1 before Kirby....Kirby lost to valley springs on a neutral court....Omaha beat valley at their place.

1. Omaha
2. Kirby
3. ICC
4. County Line(never hear of any moveins over there?)
5. Take your pick here?
I don't think it's matters after 4, their is but 4 or 5 really good teams and then there's Guy at a second tier, and then a third tier with Mammoth, and Mt Vernon
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Post by: HorseFeathers on November 12, 2017, 03:32:51 pm
I don't think it's matters after 4, their is but 4 or 5 really good teams and then there's Guy at a second tier, and then a third tier with Mammoth, and Mt Vernon

I think calico rock might end up deserving to be with mve and mammoth spring...but that loss to Hillcrest is a real head scratcher...
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Post by: thebigman3 on November 12, 2017, 04:15:53 pm
I think calico rock might end up deserving to be with mve and mammoth spring...but that loss to Hillcrest is a real head scratcher...
I think MVE is doing much better than what anyone anticipated. I expected them to just be in the middle of everything. didnít expect them to start out the year as good as they are. Concord and Shirley have kindve been dissapointments though..
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Post by: BannerMountainMan on November 12, 2017, 04:25:08 pm
I think MVE is doing much better than what anyone anticipated. I expected them to just be in the middle of everything. didnít expect them to start out the year as good as they are. Concord and Shirley have kindve been dissapointments though..
shirley has 2 starters out and they weren't deep in the first place which is prolly why they lost to Timbo, believe 3 of them got fouled out including Fuller early
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Post by: thebigman3 on November 12, 2017, 04:35:43 pm
shirley has 2 starters out and they weren't deep in the first place which is prolly why they lost to Timbo, believe 3 of them got fouled out including Fuller early
Isnt Shirleyís PG a move in?
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Post by: BannerMountainMan on November 12, 2017, 04:46:20 pm
Isnt Shirleyís PG a move in?
SG is but he had already lived in the district as he was going to school out of district before.
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Post by: Backboard Shattered on November 12, 2017, 05:34:45 pm
Is Omaha mostly move ins line Guy and I guess Kirby?
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Post by: begpmat on November 12, 2017, 08:03:14 pm
Omaha has no move ins these boys been together since they started playing in 4th grade.
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Post by: thebigman3 on November 12, 2017, 09:14:41 pm
Omaha has no move ins these boys been together since they started playing in 4th grade.
Why wasnít we talking abt them last year then? I could be wrong but I donít remember anything abt Omaha is the state tournmanet.
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Post by: Moonshiner on November 12, 2017, 09:56:56 pm
Why wasnít we talking abt them last year then? I could be wrong but I donít remember anything abt Omaha is the state tournmanet.

Peaked early.  Had a bad last third of the season
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Post by: Majorpain on November 12, 2017, 10:06:37 pm
Omaha was good last year I watched them a few times. They are really good this year too. Not trying to start an argument because I donít mean it how it may sound but from what Iíve seen on here no one really talks about teams other than Guy or Mve and Wonderview. Especially looking back to last year if they arenít doing well it gets quiet and people start a thread on move ins. Seems like those are the only teams people usually care about or at least thatís what it seemed like last year. Oh and Bay but since the chosen one isnít talking much this year to me it looks like he mustíve went to Mammoth....
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Post by: thebigman3 on November 12, 2017, 10:09:03 pm
Omaha was good last year I watched them a few times. They are really good this year too. Not trying to start an argument because I donít mean it how it may sound but from what Iíve seen on here no one really talks about teams other than Guy or Mve and Wonderview. Especially looking back to last year if they arenít doing well it gets quiet and people start a thread on move ins. Seems like those are the only teams people usually care about or at least thatís what it seemed like last year. Oh and Bay but since the chosen one isnít talking much this year to me it looks like he mustíve went to Mammoth....
mmmmm.... I wonder why😂..
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Post by: Majorpain on November 12, 2017, 10:13:38 pm
Just because a team does good it isnít always because of move ins Iím staying out of the argument about Guy . At the end of the day they have a good coach. You can have all the talent in the world but your still going to have to have a good coach.
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Post by: BannerMountainMan on November 12, 2017, 10:15:51 pm
Just because a team does good it isnít always because of move ins Iím staying out of the argument about Guy . At the end of the day they have a good coach. You can have all the talent in the world but your still going to have to have a good coach.
wrong
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Post by: Ramrod on November 12, 2017, 10:23:46 pm
wrong
You sir are the one that is wrong. You definitely need a good coach to be as good as guy was last year. cause without hutch they probably wouldnt have made it.
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Post by: Ramrod on November 12, 2017, 10:27:23 pm
in the end its not all about the move ins. its about your heart set on the game and how you play as a team.
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Post by: Majorpain on November 12, 2017, 10:38:34 pm
Ramrod I agree that the team needs the heart . There are kids dedicated and truly work but there are also kids that are not and bring the whole team down because of it.
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Post by: BannerMountainMan on November 12, 2017, 11:25:11 pm
You sir are the one that is wrong. You definitely need a good coach to be as good as guy was last year. cause without hutch they probably wouldnt have made it.
I was referring to when you said having all the talent in the world lol
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Post by: HorseFeathers on November 13, 2017, 05:05:39 am
Why wasnít we talking abt them last year then? I could be wrong but I donít remember anything abt Omaha is the state tournmanet.

Because nobody on here wants to talk about anyone but Bay, Region 3, and Kirby
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Post by: thebigman3 on November 13, 2017, 07:22:52 am
Because nobody on here wants to talk about anyone but Bay, Region 3, and Kirby
But thatís usually whoís good in 1a... with the exception of a few.
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Post by: SackAttack on November 13, 2017, 07:43:06 am
But thatís usually whoís good in 1a... with the exception of a few.
Now we agree because Class A is baaaadddd and has been for about 10 years now. 20 teams to the state tournament is just laughable but the AAA has to pay for those country club memberships somehow. Oh boy here he goes again says the masses!!! 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
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Post by: thebigman3 on November 13, 2017, 09:23:03 am
Now we agree because Class A is baaaadddd and has been for about 10 years now. 20 teams to the state tournament is just laughable but the AAA has to pay for those country club memberships somehow. Oh boy here he goes again says the masses!!! 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
Maybe class A teams, but not players. There is some pretty good players in class A.
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Post by: HorseFeathers on November 13, 2017, 09:26:48 am
Now we agree because Class A is baaaadddd and has been for about 10 years now. 20 teams to the state tournament is just laughable but the AAA has to pay for those country club memberships somehow. Oh boy here he goes again says the masses!!! 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)

Actually they took a region from 2a and added 1 to 1a...wouldn't think that equals more $$$
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Post by: BannerMountainMan on November 13, 2017, 09:44:07 am
Maybe class A teams, but not players. There is some pretty good players in class A.
Greenbrier and Conway aren't 1a
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Post by: ErnestTBass on November 13, 2017, 09:48:53 am
Maybe class A teams, but not players. There is some pretty good players in class A.
No there isnít! Lots of pretty good players! Not one single great player! I havenít seen a single player play that will have meaningful minutes after high school! Yes Iíve seen Guy play
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Post by: Bigleague on November 13, 2017, 10:05:24 am
I agree 100%.   It's just bad
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Post by: thebigman3 on November 13, 2017, 10:11:38 am
No there isnít! Lots of pretty good players! Not one single great player! I havenít seen a single player play that will have meaningful minutes after high school! Yes Iíve seen Guy play
What about the kid from ICC? Western Grove? Ive seen the top players in the state and their on it for their grade. Also the big kid from Timbo is on it as well. I think he is just an honorable mention though. And so is number 1 from Guy, also an honorable mention.
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Post by: thebigman3 on November 13, 2017, 10:12:49 am
Not saying these kids are D1 prospects don't get me wrong, but their good nonetheless.
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Post by: HorseFeathers on November 13, 2017, 10:42:29 am
What about the kid from ICC? Western Grove? Ive seen the top players in the state and their on it for their grade. Also the big kid from Timbo is on it as well. I think he is just an honorable mention though. And so is number 1 from Guy, also an honorable mention.

Who is the kid from Grove?
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Post by: thebigman3 on November 13, 2017, 12:53:58 pm
Who is the kid from Grove?
Couldn't tell you his name, but I've just heard stuff about him. He's an honorable mention of the best players of the 2019 class. Just looked it up and his name is Hunter Baker.
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Post by: dunkman on November 14, 2017, 01:51:11 pm
I made the trip north last week to watch Omaha play and they just happen to be playing Western Grove where this Baker kid is. He's a one man show probably shot the ball 25 to 30 times and what I could get from people around me this was a normal night. He scored 22 points according to Harrison paper today and played complete game.  Omaha was no disappointment they are the real deal. They also have one of the best players I've seen in 1 A this year in Garrett Matlock. He's probably 6'6'' and can play anywhere on court if needed. He played 2 and half quarters and paper said he had 36 points. Went back and looked at their big game against Valley Springs where papered showed he had 33 points. Someone said college coaches were there and he didn't disappoint. They said, he has a few offers currently and several schools from about 4 state area is recruiting him. I also saw in paper where back in summer he lead his AAU team to the Hoop Play National Championship and won it. I saw where he was on the All State tournament team last year on Maxprep.  Omaha has good guard play and are deep off the bench.
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Post by: SackAttack on November 14, 2017, 02:05:50 pm
Not saying these kids are D1 prospects don't get me wrong, but their good nonetheless.
Nope aint buying it! I was a good player you obviously were not!!
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Post by: dunkman on November 14, 2017, 02:40:11 pm
Played 4 years in college. I was there for a reason. I'm sure you we're a great player. Take your stat book and go see for yourself.
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Post by: thebigman3 on November 14, 2017, 03:07:44 pm
Nope aint buying it! I was a good player you obviously were not!!
You won the 83 title... get over yourself. Not saying you werenít a good player, but if  you were just a ďgoodĒ player in the 80s then you prolly wouldnít stand a chance. Way more athleticism and ability in todayís game. I do agree though at the same time 1a is kinda weak rn.
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Post by: SackAttack on November 14, 2017, 03:50:27 pm
These kids today wouldn't stand a chance! They don't hate to lose bad enough and that alone would make it a mismatch. Way too skilled on top of that! Put in more time in a week than these kids do in a month! The good players then were way better than the good players today because of that. There just wasn't as many of them. Not an 83 graduate. Sorry to disappoint!
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Post by: BannerMountainMan on November 14, 2017, 04:01:17 pm
Too many video games and girlfriends.
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Post by: HOGS1976 on December 02, 2017, 10:12:47 am
The question of the day is,,,does't the great Coach Hutchcraft own a cheap trailer park in Guy????
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Post by: thebigman3 on December 02, 2017, 11:01:17 am
The question of the day is,,,does't the great Coach Hutchcraft own a cheap trailer park in Guy????
No
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Post by: Moonshiner on December 03, 2017, 01:40:07 am
No

Did he sell?  Cause he used to
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Post by: ErnestTBass on December 03, 2017, 02:24:27 pm
Did he sell?  Cause he used to
Most likely condemned 😂😂😂😂
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Post by: Majorpain on December 08, 2017, 01:53:24 pm
Both are probably one of the best combos in 1a this year.
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Post by: 87DAWG on December 08, 2017, 02:46:59 pm
Both are probably one of the best combos in 1a this year.
They had a kid move to the area from J'Boro Westside. I think the family is from the area originally.