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Title: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: BannerMountainMan on September 27, 2017, 11:35:48 am
We might win the National Championship by default!! Proud of Coach A for doing it right!
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: WPWells on September 27, 2017, 12:31:08 pm
Here here!
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on September 27, 2017, 05:10:49 pm
I agree MA is doing things the RIGHT way. He's always been a stand up guy no doubt.

But we aren't getting a title out of this. Gonna have to earn it. They have been after UNC for 10 years seems like and they are still going strong.

All this stuff going on helped us 0.005%
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on September 27, 2017, 05:14:29 pm
Thanks for starting the thread. I have been wanting to talk some upcoming hoops for the NBA and college. This team has the DNA that I think as long as they get a 6 or 7 seed only they will have the postseason experience to do damage. If they can get better than that kind of seed its just a plus in my book. Macon is a competitor and if Barford has a better shot from the outside this team might be even better than we think. He can finish great at the basket..............Is Mississippi State an Adidas school? If they are then mark my word they will later be caught up in this NCAA mess. They have been recruiting way out of their league.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on September 27, 2017, 05:23:37 pm
Just looked it up. They signed a 7 year deal with Adidas in 2014... Shortly after their recruiting has went bonkers. They are going down too. Just total speculation, but what if Reggie Perry ends up being in the whole mess? They would have ended up literally stealing one of our best recruits ever. Again, that is just total speculation of playing out what if scenarios.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: BannerMountainMan on September 27, 2017, 05:36:04 pm
Quote from: beach bum on September 27, 2017, 05:23:37 pm
Just looked it up. They signed a 7 year deal with Adidas in 2014... Shortly after their recruiting has went bonkers. They are going down too. Just total speculation, but what if Reggie Perry ends up being in the whole mess? They would have ended up literally stealing one of our best recruits ever. Again, that is just total speculation of playing out what if scenarios.
oh know doubt they are apart of it and right now Reggie's mom is doing all she can't by trying to hide it by using the "race" card on twitter. Also she has changed her story from "family issues" to "coach didn't give an in-home visit", which CMA can't until September, something is fishy.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: Longfellow on September 27, 2017, 05:51:33 pm
Y'all actually care about recruiting integrity in college basketball?
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on September 27, 2017, 06:04:02 pm
Quote from: BannerMountainMan on September 27, 2017, 05:36:04 pm
oh know doubt they are apart of it and right now Reggie's mom is doing all she can't by trying to hide it by using the "race" card on twitter. Also she has changed her story from "family issues" to "coach didn't give an in-home visit", which CMA can't until September, something is fishy.

Wow, I did not know that. They are in it for sure then. The FBI has a pretty good record when it comes to getting what they want lol.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on September 27, 2017, 06:07:33 pm
Quote from: Longfellow on September 27, 2017, 05:51:33 pm
Y'all actually care about recruiting integrity in college basketball?

Not really, I think the players deserve some more money for all the cash they bring into the school. I think the biggest part of this whole thing is the bribery part. That is why the FBI is involved and more than just an NCAA infraction. When NCAA infractions happen I usually say good job for the kid getting some money he technically has earned, but isn't allowed to get. I do think you bring up a point that we do need an overhaul in collegiate sports. We are the only nation that ties higher learning to big money athletics with the NCAA like it is. It's about time they start acting like what it really is and a business and not amateurism like they call it.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on September 27, 2017, 06:22:19 pm
Well the bad part with these guys taking bribes and paying kids is it hurts schools that would otherwise get that player, or at least have a real chance. Can't blame the kids for taking  the money though.

Bruce Pearl should be real nervous by what I'm hearing. It's not over for sure. A lot of these guys will cut deals and who knows what they are going to say
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on September 27, 2017, 06:24:05 pm
As far as we go. Expectations are high for me. I do expect some growing pains initially but by the end of the year we should be a dangerous team, barring unforeseen events.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: Longfellow on September 27, 2017, 08:05:08 pm
Quote from: beach bum on September 27, 2017, 06:07:33 pm
Not really, I think the players deserve some more money for all the cash they bring into the school. I think the biggest part of this whole thing is the bribery part. That is why the FBI is involved and more than just an NCAA infraction. When NCAA infractions happen I usually say good job for the kid getting some money he technically has earned, but isn't allowed to get. I do think you bring up a point that we do need an overhaul in collegiate sports. We are the only nation that ties higher learning to big money athletics with the NCAA like it is. It's about time they start acting like what it really is and a business and not amateurism like they call it.
I'm not hopping on the pay the players bandwagon, but I think the NCAA should turn a blind eye to players getting some money from shoe companies. Take the Emmanuel Mudiay case for example. #1 recruit, but his family was desperate for money, so he signed with a team in China. It's not hurting anyone and the big schools are gonna get those guys anyway
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on October 03, 2017, 12:53:54 pm
I just saw where Khalil Garland has not been cleared to play this season.... Its not the biggest hit in the world, but he would have added some depth which is vital. I hope he is at least cleared by the spring semester. Hopefully it gets resolved all together.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: Redwolves8526 on October 03, 2017, 01:11:58 pm
What happened to Garland?
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on October 03, 2017, 01:22:51 pm
Quote from: Redwolves8526 on October 03, 2017, 01:11:58 pm
What happened to Garland?

It is saying an undisclosed medical condition so I am hoping its nothing as serious like a heart condition they detected or something odd ball like that.... I would hate to see something like that happen to a kid. I hope we hear more by the end of the week about the exacts of the issue.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: cuckoobird on October 03, 2017, 06:33:15 pm
If anyone thinks that nike isn't involved too, they're fools. Just wait a little bit
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on October 05, 2017, 05:06:48 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on October 03, 2017, 06:33:15 pm
If anyone thinks that nike isn't involved too, they're fools. Just wait a little bit

I agree.... However Anderson will not be involved in the deal or any of his assistants. One complaint I have heard about him is he isn't brutal enough on the recruiting trail and since he got here Portis has been the only recruit where in high school we thought he had a pretty confident chance of playing in the NBA one day based upon his skill set we saw from him even as a high schooler. He was just a Little Rock kid who always wanted to play for Arkansas. We haven't exactly been recruiting guys at that level to be paid by a shoe company in high school. When a kid says they are looking at other schools or decommits MA doesn't really push that hard to keep them like he should. He is not one of these guys that will do anything to essentially steal a recruit who has already committed elsewhere or get them back if they decide they want to look around more. This whole scandal  won't involve him. He does not have that personality.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: BannerMountainMan on October 06, 2017, 12:56:53 pm
I'll go with 10-3 OOC and 12-6 in conf which puts them at 22-9 which is probably the equivalent of last year because our schedule is a lot tougher and if we win a SEC tourney game or two we can get a 5 or 6 seed and make a run.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on October 08, 2017, 08:24:56 pm
Quote from: BannerMountainMan on October 06, 2017, 12:56:53 pm
I'll go with 10-3 OOC and 12-6 in conf which puts them at 22-9 which is probably the equivalent of last year because our schedule is a lot tougher and if we win a SEC tourney game or two we can get a 5 or 6 seed and make a run.

That is exactly in the range I see us which would be impressive considering the OOC schedule.... I'd max us out at 13-5 in the SEC with a possible 2nd place finish.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: BannerMountainMan on October 18, 2017, 10:33:31 am
Arkansas picked 6th in SEC right behind Missouri and does not have either Barford or Macon on 1st or 2nd team which is crazy, Mike Anderson has exceeded expectations every year since he started here! When will they get that!!
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on October 27, 2017, 03:16:34 pm
First scrimmage tonight and one more next Friday before the following week it gets tipped off for real.... I'm headed out of town this weekend or I would go to tonight's scrimmage. I'll be there next Friday to get a look at the basketball Hogs. I have decided a realistic goal again is to get 3rd in the SEC with a 12-6 SEC record again which would be pretty impressive considering I think the SEC gets 7 teams in this coming year. If you look at the teams in the SEC there is going to be a log jam probably of teams in that 4th through 9th spots sitting between 9-9 and 11-7 in conference. I think if we get to 12 conference wins then that solidly gets us the 3 seed. I think Kentucky will be good but won't be their usual out of this world self. If we even exceed expectation of maybe get to 13-5 that may be able to get us 2nd in the SEC. I don't want to get to carried away, but I believe 12-6 again is tough, but realistic.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on October 27, 2017, 03:17:58 pm
Quote from: BannerMountainMan on October 18, 2017, 10:33:31 am
Arkansas picked 6th in SEC right behind Missouri and does not have either Barford or Macon on 1st or 2nd team which is crazy, Mike Anderson has exceeded expectations every year since he started here! When will they get that!!

People dog him sometimes but he is 54-36 in SEC play the last 5 years and never finished below .500 in SEC play in that 5 year span.... I really do not know what else you could ask for in general?
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on November 10, 2017, 03:27:27 pm
Did anyone else see all the players we got to sign on the dotted line yesterday. Wasn't it 4 or even 5 players in the ESPN top 150. That is nuts.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: Romeo on November 10, 2017, 04:24:05 pm
Signees:
Ethan Henderson F 6-8 185 4 star Natl rank: 120
Keyshawn Embery G 6-3 175 4 star Natl rank: 124
Reggie Chaney F 6-7 215 3 star Natl rank: 145
Isaiah Joe G 6-2 160 3 star Natl rank: 151
Jordan Phillips G 6-5 175 3 star Natl rank: 155
Desi Sills G 6-2 180 3 star Natl rank: 323

Rankings are from 247sports
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on November 10, 2017, 04:49:31 pm
Quote from: Romeo on November 10, 2017, 04:24:05 pm
Signees:
Ethan Henderson F 6-8 185 4 star Natl rank: 120
Keyshawn Embery G 6-3 175 4 star Natl rank: 124
Reggie Chaney F 6-7 215 3 star Natl rank: 145
Isaiah Joe G 6-2 160 3 star Natl rank: 151
Jordan Phillips G 6-5 175 3 star Natl rank: 155

Desi Sills G 6-2 180 3 star Natl rank: 323

Rankings are from 247sports

Thank you for the listing! I really like that 100-150 range. Those are good players that ARE NOT one and done quality. Good, but not the elite of a class. I think a crop like that five you showed between 120-155 could be quite the class when all said and done.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on November 10, 2017, 05:57:30 pm
Looks like some athletes for sure
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: WPWells on November 10, 2017, 05:58:18 pm
I can't wait to watch tonight!
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on November 10, 2017, 07:48:57 pm
Quote from: WPWells on November 10, 2017, 05:58:18 pm
I can't wait to watch tonight!

We look AWESOME.... I know Samford is absolutely terrible but we have so many offensive options this year!! Even CJ Jones looks like a guy that will come off the bench and be our guy to get big 3 pointers for the second unit. Bailey looks like a stud against guys he is way more athletic than. And the obvious guys are great. Barford is not doing anything and we are still up by 28 at half. Macon is lights out right now.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: WPWells on November 10, 2017, 08:08:23 pm
And on that note Barford explodes for 8 points in the first minute to start the second half.

This is Mike Anderson basketball. Smothering defense and then go on the run.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on November 10, 2017, 08:18:17 pm
Quote from: WPWells on November 10, 2017, 08:08:23 pm
And on that note Barford explodes for 8 points in the first minute to start the second half.

This is Mike Anderson basketball. Smothering defense and then go on the run.

It is now 70-27  :o
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: HorseFeathers on November 11, 2017, 10:26:29 pm
Quote from: beach bum on November 10, 2017, 07:48:57 pm
We look AWESOME.... I know Samford is absolutely terrible but we have so many offensive options this year!! Even CJ Jones looks like a guy that will come off the bench and be our guy to get big 3 pointers for the second unit. Bailey looks like a stud against guys he is way more athletic than. And the obvious guys are great. Barford is not doing anything and we are still up by 28 at half. Macon is lights out right now.

FWIW Samford is picked to win the Southern Conference
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: AirWarren on November 12, 2017, 08:57:13 am
I am so ready for Hawg Ball. We looked good!

And those signees. Mike is about to take off I think. It's taken a while....and turmoil. But he is doing it right!
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on November 12, 2017, 09:03:21 am
I expect some growing pains with all the new faces. But liked like some shooters evolved over the offseason and that's a good thing. That's just from the highlights I got to watch.

Another trip to the tourney would sure ease the pain of watching this football we have been watching.

Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on November 12, 2017, 11:51:48 am
Bucknell will be a really good test... They return all 13 scholarship players from a team that made an NCAA tourney appearance last year. If we come out lackluster or Bucknell is hot from 3 land this could be a much closer game than we think.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: WPWells on November 12, 2017, 05:49:14 pm
Well we look good again
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on November 12, 2017, 06:09:13 pm
I think if we can avoid those headscratchers this year we should be ok
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on November 12, 2017, 07:00:52 pm
Tell you what. We are super athletic. Get a little more inside scoring and who knows. Supposedly a tourney team there and we handled them pretty good
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: Romeo on November 12, 2017, 07:50:55 pm
The rest of the nation is sleeping on Arkansas, but this team is legit.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on November 12, 2017, 08:08:41 pm
I'm cautiously optimistic. A big step up in competition is soon to come
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on November 12, 2017, 09:19:13 pm
Quote from: Romeo on November 12, 2017, 07:50:55 pm
The rest of the nation is sleeping on Arkansas, but this team is legit.

Yes sir!!
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on November 12, 2017, 09:20:42 pm
Quote from: bdubyab60 on November 12, 2017, 08:08:41 pm
I'm cautiously optimistic. A big step up in competition is soon to come

Oh yes.... I have set my eyes on the Minnesota game to catch one in person finally.... Hoping for a near sell out that night so the Gophers get flustered with the Bud Walton atmosphere.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on November 12, 2017, 09:22:40 pm
Quote from: WPWells on November 12, 2017, 05:49:14 pm
Well we look good again

I said to a buddy that I am not sure there will ever be a night that Macon and Barford are both having off nights. I just do not see that ever happening. And tonight they both carried the load at times. CJ Jones continues to prove he will be that outside shooter in the second unit to keep it steady. And I swear Gafford would score 20 a night if he just stayed out of foul trouble. He sure has a motor and knows how to find the basket.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: BannerMountainMan on November 12, 2017, 09:26:48 pm
Throttled two really good mid major teams...heard a NCAA insider say this team is elite
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on November 12, 2017, 09:32:10 pm
Quote from: BannerMountainMan on November 12, 2017, 09:26:48 pm
Throttled two really good mid major teams...heard a NCAA insider say this team is elite

I think what I like the most and I know you all are seeing too is we have a bunch of guys that are unselfish and MA has got to buy in on his system. I love seeing the bench go wild when they see a teammate going off. People forget that aspect of coaching and MA has it. You hear every analyst or talk show guy that knows the program and they all tell you MA creates a locker room dynamic that kids just want to be around and feel comfortable. Just think too we have three guys not even sniffing the court that would be second unit contributors and literally make us go 12 deep in games. Thomas and Cook are suspended and we may never need them. The freshman Garland is not even playing and would have added depth too. I am just enjoying seeing this unselfish brand of basketball and the hustle and them enjoying each others success.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on November 13, 2017, 07:59:25 pm
If we happen to get a player back, I hope it's Garland. I hear that is unlikely do to his health issue. Cook and Thomas both had their moments last year and we could use the fouls and size. Not sure why Thomas is out but Cook could be out for a while. MA has been firm on his suspensions.

We have one of the best guard combos in the nation so far. Macon and Barford are studs and were last year.

Cook and Thomas being out could be a blessing in disguise. A few very athletic players probably getting more minutes due to them being out.

Don't get me wrong. I liked Kingsley and loved Hannah's. But Kingsley was a liability offensively sometimes and at the line. Hannah's wasn't as athletic as players who are filling his spot now, better defensively and on the boards at this position now.

Gafford has a ton of potential. By the end of the year he could be farther along in development than Kingsley was as a senior. If he isn't already.

My worries. Gafford seems to get in foul trouble, it's early. Two games he will learn. Need him to. Be a stud in the paint.

If Barford or Macon is off. Will someone step up and take on some scoring. Think they are close to 50% of our offense.

If we aren't getting the pace up can we score. Kind of imposed our will these first two games.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on November 17, 2017, 09:40:17 am
Getting to see those Hogs in person tonight against Fresno State.... I'm going to make my next one I go to Minnesota in a few weeks. I have had that one circled for a while.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on November 17, 2017, 11:03:09 pm
Got to witness the Daniel Gafford dunk show tonight.... He was unreal  :o
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: WPWells on November 18, 2017, 12:52:09 am
So Arkansas plays poorly and still beats a really solid team. Cool
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on November 18, 2017, 09:48:22 am
Good to see that when we don't play our best we can still get the W
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on November 18, 2017, 02:14:17 pm
Quote from: WPWells on November 18, 2017, 12:52:09 am
So Arkansas plays poorly and still beats a really solid team. Cool

It was quite a strange game.... We got it up to a 15-19 point lead most the 2nd half and then Fresno State could literally throw anything at the basket the last 4 to 5 minutes and cut it to a final tally of an 8 point win. I hope everyone on here gets the treat to watch Gafford in person like I did last night. He will not be here more than 2 years. He is not like Portis or Kingsley. He is wanting to destoy the rim every time. I have never seen a Hog big man quite his style.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on November 20, 2017, 03:24:34 pm
Anyone else hear about this SEC Network and local stations too incorrectly posting that Jaylen Barford had been cited for shoplifting... Fayetteville PD had to come out and release a statement saying it was not true. I have not seen if the SEC Network or KNWA has issued an apology cause I smell a settlement.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: WPWells on November 23, 2017, 04:24:08 pm
PK80 going on! Hogs and OU
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: WPWells on November 23, 2017, 04:58:02 pm
Hogs up 5 at the half. Bill Walton is a national treasure.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: Romeo on November 23, 2017, 06:18:06 pm
Great game between two good teams. North Carolina tomorrow at 2:30pm.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: WPWells on November 23, 2017, 06:21:25 pm
Really nice win
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: AirWarren on November 23, 2017, 07:34:00 pm
Big win. I like this team.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: friscokid on November 23, 2017, 08:14:05 pm
Hogs may have a little something this year. Kentucky looks just a notch down with their latest crop of one and dones, so the Hogs could make some noise in the SEC.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on November 23, 2017, 10:31:48 pm
Good win keep rolling
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: cuckoobird on November 25, 2017, 07:28:08 am
Crickets after that beat down
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: High Voltage on November 25, 2017, 08:04:53 am
Arkansas has a good team. NC has a great team. Arkansas is a Sweet 16 team I think. With the class Mike has coming in next year we start being a consistent top twenty team.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on November 25, 2017, 09:25:55 am
Seems like we fall in to some old habits when we play tougher teams. To much one on one ball when we get stuck in the halfcourt offense, Barford out with fouls for a lot of the game and we can't score, Macon injured, Trey Thompson can't keep up in this offense or get back fast enough on defense and they shredded our token press. Made us pay just about every time down the floor. We refuse to go inside it seems like as well.

Right now it's one loss to a pretty UNC team. Still should be a tourney team. I think we do have to start winning some of these higher profile games if we want some more recognition
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: WPWells on November 25, 2017, 09:41:48 am
In the past 16 seasons, Arkansas has had three games where they have attempted fewer than 9 free throws and been called for more than 19 fouls. Two of these games were in the past 8 months against North Carolina.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: High Voltage on November 26, 2017, 07:47:28 am
We did not get cheated. We lost to a better team. Roy Williams knows how to exploit other teams weaknesses, and did so in fine fashion Friday. Mike needs to learn how to adjust and find other teams weaknesses. When a MA coached team gets behind history tells us we turn to street ball and become selfish players.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: WPWells on November 26, 2017, 08:20:48 am
Who said we got cheated?
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on November 26, 2017, 09:22:13 am
Anyone see the Bama gophers game. Bama ended up playing the last 5 or so minutes with only 3 players
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: 1-Adam-12 on November 26, 2017, 09:41:08 am
Quote from: bdubyab60 on November 26, 2017, 09:22:13 am
Anyone see the Bama gophers game. Bama ended up playing the last 5 or so minutes with only 3 players

It was more like 10 minutes and Bama almost came all the way back from a 15 point deficit.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on November 26, 2017, 09:59:44 am
Quote from: 1-Adam-12 on November 26, 2017, 09:41:08 am
It was more like 10 minutes and Bama almost came all the way back from a 15 point deficit.
Thougt it was crazy that it was even still close. I know they only had 5 players available with 13 or 14 minutes to go
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: Romeo on November 26, 2017, 10:39:06 am
My team is on the floor: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-lt6jDaVnc
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on November 26, 2017, 01:08:28 pm
I did play in a high school game that ended up 3 on 2. Every player left in the floor had at least 3 fouls. I had 4 myself
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on November 26, 2017, 03:27:40 pm
Firing on all cylinders right now. Let's see if we can hold this in the 2nd half... And please... never have Bill Walton call another one of our games again. We never get to see important replays because they're too busy letting him tell pointless stories 90% of the time he talks. I am also sick of seeing the stupid split screen cause he never stops talking. He would be a great commentator his style for baseball, but this is basketball. I have to turn the volume off from time to time just to get a break from him.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on November 26, 2017, 04:01:29 pm
He's all over the place
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: VHSCoach2 on November 26, 2017, 04:20:37 pm
Love that we're taking it to UCONN today.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on November 26, 2017, 04:47:15 pm
I caught all three of UConn's games in this PK80 tournament and UConn is an NIT team and not an NCAA tournament team.... However, I do not care. We just smacked them around 102-67  :o
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: HorseFeathers on November 26, 2017, 04:54:07 pm
Quote from: beach bum on November 26, 2017, 04:47:15 pm
I caught all three of UConn's games in this PK80 tournament and UConn is an NIT team and not an NCAA tournament team.... However, I do not care. We just smacked them around 102-67  :o

It's nice to see the team bounce back and blow out a known program though
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on November 26, 2017, 04:57:32 pm
Good bounce back win
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on November 26, 2017, 07:51:12 pm
Quote from: HorseFeathers on November 26, 2017, 04:54:07 pm
It's nice to see the team bounce back and blow out a known program though

I agree... I loved how UConn looked tired and uninterested, and us on the other hand were hungry and out and running, playing our brand of game.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: High Voltage on November 28, 2017, 03:43:16 pm
Quote from: WPWells on November 26, 2017, 08:20:48 am
Who said we got cheated?
Well, maybe I'm wrong but you kinda insinuated that with your post. If so my apologies.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: BannerMountainMan on November 29, 2017, 04:30:22 pm
Quote from: WPWells on November 25, 2017, 09:41:48 am
In the past 16 seasons, Arkansas has had three games where they have attempted fewer than 9 free throws and been called for more than 19 fouls. Two of these games were in the past 8 months against North Carolina.
great post.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on November 29, 2017, 07:11:41 pm
#12 in the updated RPI today.... That holds way more weight come March than the AP or Coaches Poll....
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on December 02, 2017, 07:03:53 pm
What in the world are the basketball Hogs doing... They've only got 10 points through 11 minutes of this game against Houston.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: WPWells on December 02, 2017, 07:57:50 pm
Turrible
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on December 02, 2017, 07:59:56 pm
Quote from: WPWells on December 02, 2017, 07:57:50 pm
Turrible

Unless a miracle happens we are done here.... We can not afford to lose another non conference game before we play Tennessee our SEC opener with this loss tonight. We must beat Minnesota now and hold serve against the other teams too before SEC play.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: sportsguy80 on December 02, 2017, 08:11:57 pm
Coach A really needs to consider changing up our offensive sets. I see too much one on one ball and players standing around waiting for Barford to make a basket. More ball movement and screens would make a difference.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on December 02, 2017, 09:41:42 pm
That is one fault that Anderson has. He seems to be pretty stubborn and doesn't change with the flow of the game. We out on that token press and it's layup city, he refuses to get out of it and play solid halfcourt defense. Our halfcourt sets have always been horrible and we force shots to try and pick up pace. That's a reason we struggle when we can't control the pace.

This still should be a tourney team. Don't think anyone expected us to go undefeated. But man when we get beat we get beat. We need to win some of these higher profile games.

Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: Ctucker on December 03, 2017, 12:46:29 pm
We're not very good!
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on December 05, 2017, 08:49:00 pm
Thank you basketball Hogs for bouncing back against Colorado State tonight... The Rams are not very good, but we took care of business like we should after a bad loss. I am looking forward to Minnesota on Saturday cause I will be there in person for that one.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on December 06, 2017, 10:13:54 am
Minnesota is a huge game. We need to win this game.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: ErnestTBass on December 06, 2017, 05:04:25 pm
Quote from: sportsguy80 on December 02, 2017, 08:11:57 pm
Coach A really needs to consider changing up our offensive sets. I see too much one on one ball and players standing around waiting for Barford to make a basket. More ball movement and screens would make a difference.
Ive been saying this for years!! Anderson has no understanding of anything related to halfcourt offensively or defensively!! The game has moved away from trap and press defense! I don't think he's stubborn as much as he's stuck in the 90's Nolan mindset! Hard to watch all the standing around we do
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on December 07, 2017, 01:51:10 pm
Even the other night in a win you can see the same issues. Gafford has no business being out in the perimeter on defense. As soon as he moved outside that team attacked and got easy points.

Anderson has to be willing to change his style just a little. Just to make us better in the halfcourt. Because these better teams take advantage of what is our weakness.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: WPWells on December 09, 2017, 07:20:47 pm
Looking good against Minnesota!
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: WPWells on December 09, 2017, 08:08:51 pm
Great win tonight
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on December 10, 2017, 08:40:28 am
Solid win that we needed. When Gafford stays out of foul trouble it really helps
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on December 10, 2017, 01:10:55 pm
Electric atmosphere at the Bud last night...
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: sportsguy80 on December 10, 2017, 06:26:54 pm
I definitely see us building on this win. Once the younger players get more game experience look out.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: BannerMountainMan on December 10, 2017, 10:12:11 pm
Quote from: Ctucker on December 03, 2017, 12:46:29 pm
We're not very good!
I love Arkansas fans😂 One loss and a team is TERRIBLE, dude Florida had just lost three in a row
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on December 10, 2017, 10:22:36 pm
Macon was sick as a dog that Houston game and Barford not 100% either. We don't win that game obviously cause how hot Houston was anyway, but we don't get blown out like that if those guys aren't feeling ill.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on December 11, 2017, 03:36:18 pm
I already liked Barford as a player, but today I like him as a person. I am walking through the mall this afternoon and I see him while he is on the phone(Looking back I should not have bothered him while he was talking to someone on the phone).... But I say " Great win Saturday, glad I was there in person for that great win" and he says "thanks I appreciate it a ton" and gives me a fist bump in return.... Barford became my new favorite player haha.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on December 11, 2017, 03:58:24 pm
And in the updated RPI rankings we are #9.... That's even with the loss against Houston. We are sitting well as long as we take care of business the next 3 to 4 weeks. I bet you all have noticed our conference schedule is back heavy. The first 10 games or so are much easier than the last 7 or 8 conference games. It's very vital for us to really play at a high level these next 12-15 games of the schedule cause we could tally some more losses at the end when all the toughest conference games come and the Oklahoma State game.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: sportsguy80 on December 11, 2017, 05:03:36 pm
The SEC will be deep this year. I could see our conference getting at least 6 in the big dance easy.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on December 17, 2017, 09:49:44 pm
Quote from: High Voltage on November 26, 2017, 07:47:28 am
We did not get cheated. We lost to a better team. Roy Williams knows how to exploit other teams weaknesses, and did so in fine fashion Friday. Mike needs to learn how to adjust and find other teams weaknesses. When a MA coached team gets behind history tells us we turn to street ball and become selfish players.

Did you watch the Tennessee vs North Carolina game today? Same story.... UNC literally is mugging Tennessee yet somehow has half the fouls called on them compared to Tennessee. Anytime the Volunteers even took a breath on the Tar Heels they called a foul. I really like Roy Williams and they have class players, but it is starting to make me hate them. It's plain as day they get favoritism. Even in Knoxville they were...
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: cuckoobird on December 20, 2017, 04:33:32 pm
Time to move all games to verizon arena since walton can't get more than 10000 fans there
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: WPWells on December 20, 2017, 06:55:21 pm
Not your best effort
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: cuckoobird on December 20, 2017, 07:51:38 pm
It's just truth
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: Lumberjackfan1978 on December 20, 2017, 08:46:27 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on December 20, 2017, 07:51:38 pm
It's just truth
agree
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on December 21, 2017, 06:16:19 am
Hopefully for conference play we can. Tenner is a big match up
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on December 27, 2017, 09:21:09 pm
It got a little chippy and was sloppy to start, but Macon & Barford sparked the 2nd half to stretch it to a 95-68 win tonight. Can't wait for Saturday against Tennessee. We win there and we are in every top 25 poll..... And btw Cuckoobird, Saturday against Tennessee is sold out. As long as we stay near the top 25 all weekend home games the rest of the way will be all sell outs. That is vital to have the crowd in it for conference play and OK State. If we don't go 8-1 or 9-0 at home we won't get anywhere near the top 3 in the SEC like last year. If I remember right last year we went 6-3 both at home and the road in conference which is strange for a Hog team. The SEC is very good this year and getting more than 5 road wins is going to be tough for any of the top dogs in the SEC.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: sportsguy80 on December 27, 2017, 09:59:23 pm
Quote from: beach bum on December 27, 2017, 09:21:09 pm
It got a little chippy and was sloppy to start, but Macon & Barford sparked the 2nd half to stretch it to a 95-68 win tonight. Can't wait for Saturday against Tennessee. We win there and we are in every top 25 poll..... And btw Cuckoobird, Saturday against Tennessee is sold out. As long as we stay near the top 25 all weekend home games the rest of the way will be all sell outs. That is vital to have the crowd in it for conference play and OK State. If we don't go 8-1 or 9-0 at home we won't get anywhere near the top 3 in the SEC like last year. If I remember right last year we went 6-3 both at home and the road in conference which is strange for a Hog team. The SEC is very good this year and getting more than 5 road wins is going to be tough for any of the top dogs in the SEC.
I totally agree. I'm going to the OK State game while anticipating payback for last year's game.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on December 28, 2017, 06:13:42 am
It's step up time now. Don't need a sluggish start. TN is better than folks thought they were gonna be.

In the SEC some teams are better than most thought they would be. Pretty balanced out this year. A lot of 50/50 games.

My worry is if Gafford gets in foul trouble. There's a big difference in this team when he isn't in the game. Guard play is pretty steady though which is a huge advantage
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on December 28, 2017, 11:11:25 am
Quote from: bdubyab60 on December 28, 2017, 06:13:42 am
It's step up time now. Don't need a sluggish start. TN is better than folks thought they were gonna be.

In the SEC some teams are better than most thought they would be. Pretty balanced out this year. A lot of 50/50 games.

My worry is if Gafford gets in foul trouble. There's a big difference in this team when he isn't in the game. Guard play is pretty steady though which is a huge advantage

I agree definitely that we need Gafford to be able to log between 22 & 27 minutes in these SEC games to be at our peak and allow those guards complete freedom. And I see a lot of close games too. I just told someone usually it takes a 15-3 conference record or 14-4 at minimum to get the 1 seed for the SEC tournament. I think this year there may be so much parity since Florida does not seem to be as elite as I thought they would and a mortal looking Kentucky that 13-5 may be able to get you the 1 seed if you own the right tiebreaker over a team.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: WPWells on December 28, 2017, 01:44:08 pm
I think this team is going to have the same advantage that Nolan's teams had - a lack of respect and a chip on their shoulders
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on December 28, 2017, 01:57:32 pm
Quote from: WPWells on December 28, 2017, 01:44:08 pm
I think this team is going to have the same advantage that Nolan's teams had - a lack of respect and a chip on their shoulders

Totally agree... And their fitness level and depth compared to other teams is finally starting to show in the 2nd half of games. I like seeing that.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on December 28, 2017, 09:08:23 pm
Looks like most of our supposed tougher matchups are at home and only one game. A&M is good. Get a split with them, win the home games and avoid the head scratchers like Houston and it will a solid year. Should be a really tough out in the tourney. Anything less than that would be disappointing especially if we stay healthy.

Convince Gafford to stay one more year that would cap a really good year. I know we graduate a lot of experience. But the kids coming in are supposed to be some ballers and we can sneak in there next year.

Don't think Gafford stays more than two years. That's as talented a big man as we have had in a long time. If he gets a consistent mid range game watch out.

Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: cuckoobird on December 29, 2017, 06:59:46 pm
Nolans teams had plenty of respect. Were you even born when he was coaching?
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on December 30, 2017, 05:17:48 pm
Good come from behind win today. I'm expecting a lot of these type games this year.

Bench has to pick it up though.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on December 30, 2017, 05:22:47 pm
Quote from: bdubyab60 on December 30, 2017, 05:17:48 pm
Good come from behind win today. I'm expecting a lot of these type games this year.

Bench has to pick it up though.

What a game... Massive comeback with two semi difficult road games looming... I'd like to split on the road and take care of business in couple weeks with LSU and Mizzou at home to be sitting at 4-1 in SEC play two weeks from now after the Mizzou game. And we need some three's from CJ Jones in that second unit that is for sure.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on December 30, 2017, 07:47:00 pm
Yeah we need C.J. to get hot again.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: LRRandy on December 30, 2017, 08:46:29 pm
Excitement is back on the hill for basketball. This team has the look of a team tha can win a lot of games and make a long post season run. Good for them.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: friscokid on December 30, 2017, 10:12:02 pm
Hopefully the AP voters will realize what they were missing and vault the Hogs way up in the top 25. Maybe up as high as 18th.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on December 30, 2017, 10:36:44 pm
I myself don't want a big jump. Though probably deserving I'd like MA to be able to keep playing the disrespect card. Keep a chip on the shoulder so to say.

A lot of tough games ahead and need to keep that focus. Seasons can turn quick.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: sportsguy80 on December 30, 2017, 10:49:29 pm
Quote from: bdubyab60 on December 30, 2017, 10:36:44 pm
I myself don't want a big jump. Though probably deserving I'd like MA to be able to keep playing the disrespect card. Keep a chip on the shoulder so to say.

A lot of tough games ahead and need to keep that focus. Seasons can turn quick.
Yes, let's keep putting in the work and strive towards a strong finish into tournament time. That's my wishful thinking.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on December 31, 2017, 09:08:12 am
Somewhere around 20 would be nice. Houston loss looked bad. OU doing as good as they have though is a plus. Looks like this will continue to be an exciting seaso
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on December 31, 2017, 02:23:58 pm
Quote from: bdubyab60 on December 31, 2017, 09:08:12 am
Somewhere around 20 would be nice. Houston loss looked bad. OU doing as good as they have though is a plus. Looks like this will continue to be an exciting seaso

Luckily Houston is now 12-2 (2-0 AAC) and unless they let the wheels fall off will be in the tourney themselves.... I hope they keep winning too cause it won't go in the "bad loss" category they show when teams resumes come up. That score line was pretty bad however I do know.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on December 31, 2017, 04:35:59 pm
Yeah right now we haven't lost to a bad team. But when we lose man do we lose lol
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: Romeo on January 01, 2018, 11:22:55 am
The hogs are ranked #22 in the AP Top 25.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: AirWarren on January 01, 2018, 07:03:31 pm
Quote from: Romeo on January 01, 2018, 11:22:55 am
The hogs are ranked #22 in the AP Top 25.

Excellent.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: WPWells on January 01, 2018, 07:35:39 pm
#4 in RPI
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on January 02, 2018, 09:15:55 am
We need a win in Starkville tonight.... I feel better about this than Auburn over the weekend. Miss State has a good record, but have played the easiest schedule in the conference so far. I am taking the Hogs by about 7 tonight.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: WPWells on January 02, 2018, 11:39:41 am
I'm excited to watch it
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: BrianfromCarlisle on January 02, 2018, 09:06:14 pm
At least everyone on the broadcast is obviously pro Mississippi State.   Not a great job of being unbiased.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: BrianfromCarlisle on January 02, 2018, 10:02:08 pm
What a horribly officiated game.   Truly garbage.  Only reason this is close
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: WPWells on January 02, 2018, 10:04:19 pm
That's awful officiating. Just pathetic
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: WPWells on January 02, 2018, 10:09:49 pm
40-12 in free throws
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: BrianfromCarlisle on January 02, 2018, 10:10:55 pm
Arkansas won this by 15.  Easily.  That team doesn't play defense.  They foul.  And got away with what was close to assault.  Free throw discrepancy was unbelievable. Usually even bad officiating doesn't cost a team the game.  This did. No question.  It was difference between losing and winning by 15+
At least we got to listen to a great Bulldog home broadcast   
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on January 02, 2018, 10:13:59 pm
Well if we would move our feet on defense instead of reaching and hacking. When we got to the line we missed.

What the crap was Barford doing tonight, especially at the end of the game.

Trey Thompson cost us around 10 points while he was on the floor. He was pretty good last year but  this year he has played very poorly.

This is two games in a row that we really haven't played well. Just in spurts
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on January 02, 2018, 10:20:53 pm
Macon was the only guard that came to play at all and Gafford dunks have to be a spark and not what we rely on to win a game... And my goodness rebound guys when a team is actually smaller than us too! Now they better play with some urgency against Auburn or they will be sitting at 1-2 making the two game home stretch must wins.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: Trojanbird on January 02, 2018, 11:06:25 pm
However poorly the game was officiated, it still comes down to discipline and coaching, both of which were lacking in the last minute and a half! IMO.  Hogs still should have won the game.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: Ctucker on January 03, 2018, 04:30:33 pm
We are a headed point guard away from being real good! Are guards are good but they pull some stupid stuff at bad times! We still do not have a floor general!
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: sportsguy80 on January 03, 2018, 08:17:30 pm
Quote from: Ctucker on January 03, 2018, 04:30:33 pm
We are a headed point guard away from being real good! Are guards are good but they pull some stupid stuff at bad times! We still do not have a floor general!
Yup because Beard isn't the answer. Our best bet is when Barford, Macon, and Beard all take turns handling the rock. Coach rarely has all three out at the same time.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: sportsguy80 on January 03, 2018, 08:25:41 pm
Our number one focus should be on getting better instead of being ranked. This conference will have most teams beating each other due to even matchups. As a result, I don't know if that's good or bad for us but time will tell...
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: friscokid on January 06, 2018, 03:21:38 pm
Down goes A&M to LSU at home. The Aggies are 0-3 to start SEC play. Every win is going to be crucial.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on January 06, 2018, 03:28:33 pm
Quote from: friscokid on January 06, 2018, 03:21:38 pm
Down goes A&M to LSU at home. The Aggies are 0-3 to start SEC play. Every win is going to be crucial.

Their top player being suspended is killing them.... It may be too late now cause if they don't sort it out now they may miss the NCAA tournament all together. Arkansas better play desperate or they will be 1-2 and playing catch up the rest of the season to make sure to finish above .500 in conference play.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: sportsguy80 on January 06, 2018, 05:13:48 pm
I hate the way we start games. It's almost like we are playing like we've done something. None of our opponents are intimidated so we need to play with urgency from start to finish.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on January 06, 2018, 05:42:28 pm
We are about to get destroyed or at least looks that way. Uninspired basketball being played. Defensively horrible, slapping reaching and not moving their feet. This team plays much better when they defend

Barford has disappeared.

What looked so promising is now looking like it will turn in to a slump.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on January 06, 2018, 05:57:34 pm
This is horrible... We better win both home games next week or this is not going to be a very good season.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on January 06, 2018, 06:03:37 pm
Not playing as a team at all. 20 seconds til half and all we have is hand the ball to beard and let him try and take a shot over a guy that is 4" taller.

Poor screening, bad rebounding.

Just winning home games won't be enough.

This is 3 true road games this year and we have looked bad in all of them.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: Ctucker on January 06, 2018, 06:23:24 pm
Who come up with this offense we're every body just stands there and watches guy with the ball.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: sportsguy80 on January 06, 2018, 06:23:48 pm
Coach A better make adjustments and fast. Like yesterday fast!
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on January 06, 2018, 06:44:49 pm
Finally some life. Be aggressive at least
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on January 06, 2018, 06:57:22 pm
For a senior lead team we sure do make a lot of freshman mistakes
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: sportsguy80 on January 06, 2018, 07:15:02 pm
And our free throws...don't even wanna talk about it. We're definitely playing like a team full of freshmen and sophomores right now.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on January 06, 2018, 07:20:01 pm
I mean if I wanted to watch one on one street ball the park ain't far away
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: AirWarren on January 06, 2018, 09:45:02 pm
Quote from: bdubyab60 on January 06, 2018, 07:20:01 pm
I mean if I wanted to watch one on one street ball the park ain't far away

Gonna have to stiffen up.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: Trojanbird on January 06, 2018, 10:53:31 pm
Like I said earlier in the thread, it all comes down to discipline and coaching!  Both of which we are lacking
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on January 10, 2018, 08:45:29 pm
Down 24 in a game we are supposed to have an 82% chance to win
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: Ctucker on January 10, 2018, 08:59:45 pm
We suck!
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on January 10, 2018, 09:13:23 pm
SEC guys straight up clowning on us just like they did the football team. I was worried about this once we got ranked. Looks like this team has lost its will to win. Really looks like this is going to snowball on us. If this continues the rest of the season it will be time to start having hot seat discussions.

Decent class coming in but really looks like MA isn't getting it done in the gym. Plus we will be super young next year.

Need a good half here
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on January 10, 2018, 09:28:03 pm
Ned to chip away and get stops
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: cuckoobird on January 10, 2018, 09:35:02 pm
I'm wondering if wells still thinks they deserve respect and have a chip on their shoulders?
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on January 10, 2018, 10:01:38 pm
Truthfully the way they are playing NIT would be the best they can do. Started off the season good but things can turn quick and these last 4 games we have been exposed as a straight up fraud. Fooled me and I tried to be cautiously optimistic.

We stayed close to TN and pulled that out with one good run. These last 3 games have been disasters.

And these games come down to this. This team looks poorly prepared plain and simple. Going on 7 years now. No structure to an offense what so ever. This press we run is a hendrance not a help. I'm tired of hearing about system. You need to play BASKETBALL. The game is different now you don't wear teams down anymore.

Hope we turn this around but this doesn't look good at all. The SEC isn't as weak as it used to be.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on January 10, 2018, 11:22:12 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on January 10, 2018, 09:35:02 pm
I'm wondering if wells still thinks they deserve respect and have a chip on their shoulders?

I think we are about to find out how much basketball really means to these guys in the coming month and a half. If this group doesn't have character and resiliency and basketball is not a deep down passion then they are staring at a 5 win SEC season and the bottom 3 of the conference the way they are playing. I am glad I am getting $10 tickets to these games cause I sadly had to watch that performance in person tonight and feel sorry for the people paying full price to watch that lack of effort. If they don't sort it out they won't even be an NIT team let alone NCAA tournament. You know its all heart and effort when its the same guys that spanked UCONN and gave Oklahoma its only loss. Amazing how bad a team can get when its not right between their ears and no heart in it. That is the only explanation and I saw it in person tonight the lack of desire was obvious.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on January 11, 2018, 12:34:24 pm
Uconn isn't the Uconn we all remember. They have actually been pretty mediocre since Olie took over. Yeah I know he got a NC. However that team wasn't getting in the tournament until they win the conference tourney and Kenna Walker went on one of the most historic runs there has ever been.

For sure we have some good wins. But these last 4 games are concerning at the least. Sure we can turn it around but this isn't like dropping one head scratcher.

If this continues MA should be on the hot seat. We are 7 years in. We are watching programs get turned around in just a couple seasons all over the place. Those same schools have better recruiting classes coming in than we do. Yeah we have decent class, ranked 24th coming in I believe, but it's mainly because we have 6 players coming in. Plus this makes us super young next year while everyone else will have experienced teams for the most part.

Hope MA straightens this out but listening to that dead huddle talk during the mic'd up stuff was painful. He didn't make me won't to get out there and hustle. Listen to the other coaches when a game is going on.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on January 11, 2018, 02:30:15 pm
Quote from: bdubyab60 on January 11, 2018, 12:34:24 pm
Uconn isn't the Uconn we all remember. They have actually been pretty mediocre since Olie took over. Yeah I know he got a NC. However that team wasn't getting in the tournament until they win the conference tourney and Kenna Walker went on one of the most historic runs there has ever been.

For sure we have some good wins. But these last 4 games are concerning at the least. Sure we can turn it around but this isn't like dropping one head scratcher.

If this continues MA should be on the hot seat. We are 7 years in. We are watching programs get turned around in just a couple seasons all over the place. Those same schools have better recruiting classes coming in than we do. Yeah we have decent class, ranked 24th coming in I believe, but it's mainly because we have 6 players coming in. Plus this makes us super young next year while everyone else will have experienced teams for the most part.

Hope MA straightens this out but listening to that dead huddle talk during the mic'd up stuff was painful. He didn't make me won't to get out there and hustle. Listen to the other coaches when a game is going on.

You brought up a very good point in the fact that we aren't going to be a very good team next year plain and simple cause our back court is going to be all young players with the SEC not going anywhere for a while as a conference. And I also think all the Gafford to the NBA talk has stopped finally cause that is not happening at all. I've always been an MA guy, but when are we ever going to sustain some decent seasons in a row. I think we are all realist and realize the final 4's aren't coming, but we expect the NCAA tournament every 4 out of 5 years imo with a decent run in one of those to the second weekend. I think that's reasonable for our program.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on January 11, 2018, 07:42:21 pm
Quote from: beach bum on January 11, 2018, 02:30:15 pm
You brought up a very good point in the fact that we aren't going to be a very good team next year plain and simple cause our back court is going to be all young players with the SEC not going anywhere for a while as a conference. And I also think all the Gafford to the NBA talk has stopped finally cause that is not happening at all. I've always been an MA guy, but when are we ever going to sustain some decent seasons in a row. I think we are all realist and realize the final 4's aren't coming, but we expect the NCAA tournament every 4 out of 5 years imo with a decent run in one of those to the second weekend. I think that's reasonable for our program.
Im with you. And there is enough talent in this state to do it as well. Another thing that is a concern is that MAs best recruits have all had connections or they are born Hogs. He hasn't stolen one big time recruit, only a couple homegrown stars.

Gafford has taken a few steps back since we have hit conference play. He for sure has to be able to do more than dunk. I also think the way he is being used in defense is hurting us badly. There is absolutely no reason for him to be 30 feet from the basket guarding a guard. He does have potential but can MA develop that potential.

Right now at this moment though it doesn't look like those expectations are going to be met. This SYSTEM has been figured out, especially by conference teams.

This gets no easier this weekend and another team that is fully capable of beating us.

Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: WPWells on January 11, 2018, 08:32:42 pm
No cuckoo, I don't think that, and anyone with half a brain wouldn't think that either.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: sportsguy80 on January 12, 2018, 08:49:45 am
It's amazing how some people have already given up on our season. Yes, we are playing terrible and concerns are definitely justified. I don't think the season is over due to the chance of going on a winning streak which we are capable of doing. Like I commented earlier, Coach A needs to make some serious adjustments and everyone needs to step up.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on January 12, 2018, 09:21:04 am
Quote from: sportsguy80 on January 12, 2018, 08:49:45 am
It's amazing how some people have already given up on our season. Yes, we are playing terrible and concerns are definitely justified. I don't think the season is over due to the chance of going on a winning streak which we are capable of doing. Like I commented earlier, Coach A needs to make some serious adjustments and everyone needs to step up.

If this isn't something deep for these guys it is already over. The SEC is just way too good for us to rip off 5 out of 6 wins down the stretch to save our behind. I am just looking at the reality of the conference right now. If we drop to let's say 2-4 in conference we would have to finish 8-4 down the stretch to salvage a winning conference season. Good luck with that. This is proving how much the mental part of a game plays in when teams are very even and it shows what teams want it and which ones don't and we don't have that. These guys are acting like they have checked out already mentally.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on January 12, 2018, 10:29:57 am
Fully aware there is a lot of season left. We will see Saturday if anything MA has said has gotten through to these guys.

I want us to win, it's a game we should win. But then again we were an 82% favorite the other night.


It's time to get the ship righted
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on January 12, 2018, 10:33:23 am
I am pretty comfortable saying if we don't win 3 of our next 4 conference games to get to 4-4 then we are done and put a fork in us. The schedule only gets harder down the stretch. The OK State game is massive in the sense that it may allow us to go a mediocre 9-9 in conference and still make the tourney because the SEC rpi ratings. If we lose to OK State it will take a 10-8 record at least to make the tourney and again good luck with that after this slow start. That's bad when my highest expectation now is get to 9-9 in SEC with a win over OK State then just scrape in the tourney as an 11 seed or something. That's really about as good as it potentially can get. If they don't have anything else to prove we won't even come close to that.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bleudog on January 13, 2018, 08:30:58 am
A picture is worth a thousand words:  CLICK HERE (http://digital.olivesoftware.com/Olive/ODN/ElDorado/shared/ShowArticle.aspx?doc=ELDNTIMES%2F2018%2F01%2F13&entity=Ar00902&sk=C49561D5&mode=text)
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on January 13, 2018, 05:24:56 pm
A little better start this time anyways
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bleudog on January 13, 2018, 06:14:16 pm
Quote from: bdubyab60 on January 13, 2018, 05:24:56 pm
A little better start this time anyways

https://www.thescore.com/ncaab/events/123503/box_score
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on January 13, 2018, 06:24:46 pm
Amazing what happens when u play defense
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on January 13, 2018, 07:17:03 pm
Pulled that one out but the weaknesses of this team continue to show big time. Our senior guards selfishness is hurting us bad.

I'll take the W though
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on January 13, 2018, 08:10:20 pm
Quote from: bdubyab60 on January 13, 2018, 07:17:03 pm
Pulled that one out but the weaknesses of this team continue to show big time. Our senior guards selfishness is hurting us bad.

I'll take the W though

Exactly how I feel about our guards. Have you noticed the 2 conference wins we have Gafford's physical presence down the stretch has tipped us over the edge for the win. Just imagine if we would have fed him the ball against Miss State too. We would be 3-2 instead in SEC play. It's amazing how much better our defense looks when we get Gafford the ball too instead of chasing the other team in transition after bad shots by our guards like you said. And same, I'll take the win. We have to find a way to get 2 of the next 3 games to get back to .500 though.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on January 14, 2018, 08:02:45 am
Gafford was guarded on our final possession by a player he clearly had a size advantage and position on. Macon looks right at him. Doesn't give him the ball and forces up a horrible short. Barford, Beard and Macon seem to want to be heroes instead of making the correct play. Barford made some of the most forced and horrible drives I've ever seen. Moves I'd expect from a high schooler. MA needs to nip that in the butt now.

The bad
Free throw shooting is atrocious. All the stuff mentioned above. Still stand around for huge portions of the game on offense and defense.

The good
It was a win. Hopefully working the ball inside out catches on. The offense runs better that way.

Confidence level
Still low. Don't see us going in and beating UF. Not unless we get the effort that built an 18 point lead and helped us come back and win. Need that for a full game
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on January 17, 2018, 08:26:07 pm
Better find a way to win the next 2 games or season is a wash and then we can sell some NIT tickets  :-X
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: Trojanbird on January 17, 2018, 09:22:32 pm
Why should we be hoping for the NIT?  MA has been here long enough to do better than this!
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on January 17, 2018, 09:43:40 pm
Quote from: Trojanbird on January 17, 2018, 09:22:32 pm
Why should we be hoping for the NIT?  MA has been here long enough to do better than this!

No one thinks we should be happy as an NIT team....My expectation going into this season was to get a 3, 4 or 5 seed in the NCAA tournament. We will be lucky to be one of the last 5 or 6 teams in at this point and that is if we start pulling wins out of thin air. I think we are all watching players who for some reason aren't playing at the same level as last year from a straight intensity stand point. You can see the lack of competitive nature on them and we are headed for the NIT at this rate. For some reason the RPI still loves us even as we continue to lose and so does Lunardi who barely ever misses more than 1 team the NCAA selects. He had us as a 7 seed even after the LSU loss and this Florida loss will probably only drop us to a 9 seed. I already can see it now that we end up with like an 8-10 SEC record and 13 losses overall after the SEC tournament and we still end up an 11 or 12 seed because of the high RPI rating. I absolutely do not want to see us make the NCAA tournament without a winning conference record. That is even more embarrassing because we will a joke even more if that happened.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on January 17, 2018, 10:49:54 pm
Quote from: beach bum on January 17, 2018, 09:43:40 pm
No one thinks we should be happy as an NIT team....My expectation going into this season was to get a 3, 4 or 5 seed in the NCAA tournament. We will be lucky to be one of the last 5 or 6 teams in at this point and that is if we start pulling wins out of thin air. I think we are all watching players who for some reason aren't playing at the same level as last year from a straight intensity stand point. You can see the lack of competitive nature on them and we are headed for the NIT at this rate. For some reason the RPI still loves us even as we continue to lose and so does Lunardi who barely ever misses more than 1 team the NCAA selects. He had us as a 7 seed even after the LSU loss and this Florida loss will probably only drop us to a 9 seed. I already can see it now that we end up with like an 8-10 SEC record and 13 losses overall after the SEC tournament and we still end up an 11 or 12 seed because of the high RPI rating. I absolutely do not want to see us make the NCAA tournament without a winning conference record. That is even more embarrassing because we will a joke even more if that happened.
I believe you are correct. This is what it isn't good to barely get in. Because this team should be a solid tourney team, talent is there bottom line. We barely get in it just gives ammunition to keep saying hey we made the tourney. Then this starts back where it was 7 years ago.

By the way another Arkansas kid torches us.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on January 18, 2018, 11:12:40 am
Quote from: bdubyab60 on January 17, 2018, 10:49:54 pm
I believe you are correct. This is what it isn't good to barely get in. Because this team should be a solid tourney team, talent is there bottom line. We barely get in it just gives ammunition to keep saying hey we made the tourney. Then this starts back where it was 7 years ago.

By the way another Arkansas kid torches us.

Kevaughn Allen is the perfect college type player Arkansas could have used. If he was taller NBA teams would be drooling over him and he would have left earlier even. I want players just like that. Great players that have some deficiency like size or whatever that will keep them around the program 3 or 4 years and pan out to be great college players. Just look how well he takes care of his body too. He would have been a beast even more in a high tempo pace how good of shape he is in.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bleudog on January 18, 2018, 11:40:41 am
Quote from: beach bum on January 18, 2018, 11:12:40 am
Kevaughn Allen is the perfect college type player Arkansas could have used. If he was taller NBA teams would be drooling over him and he would have left earlier even. I want players just like that. Great players that have some deficiency like size or whatever that will keep them around the program 3 or 4 years and pan out to be great college players. Just look how well he takes care of his body too. He would have been a beast even more in a high tempo pace how good of shape he is in.

Mike White was pretty good at finding Arkansas players when he was at LA Tech too.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on January 18, 2018, 11:44:33 am
Quote from: bleudog on January 18, 2018, 11:40:41 am
Mike White was pretty good at finding Arkansas players when he was at LA Tech too.

It had totally slipped my mind that he was at LA Tech before. He is starting to build a name for himself nationwide.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on January 18, 2018, 12:05:20 pm
We do need some that can come in a help immediately though. A 2 or 3 three year guy, Gafford looks the part but he can't lead the team up the floor and our current guards ignore him.

It's good getting players that can stick around. But they aren't really contributing until year 4 that's not good. Or if you only get them to contribute one year
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on January 18, 2018, 05:25:38 pm
Lunardi updated his bracketology this afternoon.... Why on earth are we still an 8 seed and comfortably in the NCAA tournament by that seeding? We would by lucky to win more than one NIT game the way we look right now.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on January 18, 2018, 07:24:34 pm
Probably because of the fabled RPI and our early success. We were playing good at one time so I can understand it. But if it isn't corrected I don't think below 500 in Conference will cut it
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: thebigman3 on January 19, 2018, 01:05:57 pm
Quote from: beach bum on January 18, 2018, 05:25:38 pm
Lunardi updated his bracketology this afternoon.... Why on earth are we still an 8 seed and comfortably in the NCAA tournament by that seeding? We would by lucky to win more than one NIT game the way we look right now.
They definitely need to win these next 9 games or the majority of them. They have had key wins and no bad losses. That's why they would be in IMO because they way we are playing right now is not going to cut it in the NCAA tourney.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on January 19, 2018, 08:56:14 pm
Getting spanked by LSU at home by 20 plus is a bad loss. We do have good wins. But more than once when stepping up in competition we have had it handed to us pretty good. We lead the SEC in margin of defeat.

MA has to make changes like he did last year. It shouldn't take 6 games for him to make adjustments. These need to be made in game.

Currently 2-4 in Conference. So 7-5 just to get to 9-9 in Conference. That likely has us dancing. We haven't won a true road game this year and I think we have 6 of those left. So is 7-5 realistic, not the way we are playing.

Saw MAs presser today and sounded like he's been reading the forums. I'd expect adjustments this week and we have two questionable players. Beard and Thompson. So some of these adjustments may be forced.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on January 20, 2018, 03:05:58 pm
Amazing what a little defense will do
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: AirWarren on January 20, 2018, 03:56:59 pm
And when CJ Jones figures out how to shoot
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on January 20, 2018, 04:45:01 pm
Tried to give that one away. Lack of focus at the end, can't leave shooters open like that. Fell back in to old habits in the second half as well. Not defending and stagnant on offense.

I'll take the win though. Hopefully we can use this as a paring board to more wins. We will see here in a few days
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on January 20, 2018, 05:44:25 pm
Quote from: bdubyab60 on January 20, 2018, 04:45:01 pm
Tried to give that one away. Lack of focus at the end, can't leave shooters open like that. Fell back in to old habits in the second half as well. Not defending and stagnant on offense.

I'll take the win though. Hopefully we can use this as a paring board to more wins. We will see here in a few days

Good assessment as I saw it too.... These next two @ UGA then the game against OK State at the Bud are massive games and we need them both. Two more wins would put us at 15-6 and back to semi level terms overall..... And I do mean semi level haha
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on January 20, 2018, 05:52:46 pm
In fact our next 6 games are all winnable with @Georgia, OK State, @Texas A&M, @LSU, South Carolina, and Vandy..... I am fairly certain this 6 game stretch will probably decide whether we get back in the conversation as a truly worthy NCAA tourney team. With A&M struggling plus LSU and Georgia probably the least hostile road environments in the SEC I think 5 of the next 6 would be my expectation of what I would be satisfied with in that stretch. 3-3 or 4-2 is not going to cut it with those winnable games ahead.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on January 20, 2018, 06:35:42 pm
OSU just beat OU, though that was at home, not an easy game. We don't play well at GA for some reason. Seems LSU is a bad match up. However they are all winnable games. We haven't played to well on the road and that concerning. Surely we have it in us tonsteal a couple.

May be just my opinion, the way the season started and seeing what this team is capable of. To me any thing short of the NCAA tourney is a wasted year of what talent we have.

We will see what happens though
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: thebigman3 on January 21, 2018, 10:06:06 pm
We beat OU too.. and the LSU PG had a heck of a game against us. Maybe that won't happen next time.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on January 22, 2018, 05:36:57 am
I hope it don't. But the next game is on the road. While I do think we steal a road game or two. Right now we are O'fer on the road.

Don't get me wrong I like wins. But we just had one of our beat shooting games of the year. Over 50% from 3 and 2 point. Shot 20% points above our average from the free throw line. All that and still had to scratch out a win against a scrappy OM that is barely above .500. I'd that was on the road fine. However that was at home in front of a full building.

That concerns me
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: thebigman3 on January 22, 2018, 10:18:25 am
Quote from: bdubyab60 on January 22, 2018, 05:36:57 am
I hope it don't. But the next game is on the road. While I do think we steal a road game or two. Right now we are O'fer on the road.

Don't get me wrong I like wins. But we just had one of our beat shooting games of the year. Over 50% from 3 and 2 point. Shot 20% points above our average from the free throw line. All that and still had to scratch out a win against a scrappy OM that is barely above .500. I'd that was on the road fine. However that was at home in front of a full building.

That concerns me
Maybe just a mid season slump.. better defense has to be played for sure. We can score 97 points, but we don't need to be letting other teams score 93. Win or lose.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on January 23, 2018, 04:31:38 pm
Got to win tonight to make me feel like we can salvage something.... Big difference in being 4-4 and 3-5..... 4-4 will you have you believing a hot streak could have us ending up ok. A 3-5 record makes you wonder if a .500 season is even remotely salvageable. Come on guys, don't let me down haha.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on January 23, 2018, 05:43:59 pm
I feel the same way. Seems we are at a tipping point or just feels like it
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on January 23, 2018, 05:52:06 pm
And another slow start.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on January 23, 2018, 05:57:41 pm
Quote from: bdubyab60 on January 23, 2018, 05:52:06 pm
And another slow start.

24-9 UGA  ???
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on January 23, 2018, 06:13:22 pm
If we don't end on that 15-4 run to end the half... We're toast. 33-28 and behind by 5 at half isn't bad all considering. I thought we were done tonight.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: sportsguy80 on January 23, 2018, 07:09:56 pm
Can't believe Gafford hasn't scored.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on January 23, 2018, 07:14:29 pm
Quote from: sportsguy80 on January 23, 2018, 07:09:56 pm
Can't believe Gafford hasn't scored.

It's amazing how no one will throw him the ball...
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: sportsguy80 on January 23, 2018, 07:17:55 pm
Quote from: beach bum on January 23, 2018, 07:14:29 pm
It's amazing how no one will throw him the ball...
He should get a touch every time we have the ball in the half court.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on January 23, 2018, 07:36:22 pm
Quote from: sportsguy80 on January 23, 2018, 07:17:55 pm
He should get a touch every time we have the ball in the half court.

Why does MA not even have Gafford in the game too? Is he fouled out?? Trey Thompson played awful in overtime...
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: sportsguy80 on January 23, 2018, 07:38:51 pm
Quote from: beach bum on January 23, 2018, 07:36:22 pm
Why does MA not even have Gafford in the game too? Is he fouled out?? Trey Thompson played awful in overtime...
Your guess is as good as mines. Barford and Macon played very selfish on those last couple of possessions.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on January 23, 2018, 07:52:23 pm
That was crazy and not ideal but I will take it as a win....It's going to take 2 or 3 more on the road to really have a decent season.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: sportsguy80 on January 23, 2018, 07:53:21 pm
Quote from: beach bum on January 23, 2018, 07:52:23 pm
That was crazy and not ideal but I will take it as a win....It's going to take 2 or 3 more on the road to really have a decent season.
All I can say is wow...
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on January 23, 2018, 07:54:32 pm
On a side note about college basketball in general. Anyone else see Virginia hold a fellow ranked team in Clemson to 36 points?? I watch their games sometimes and it can be some ugly basketball, but I haven't seen a team in a while like that in Virginia that will completely suck you into a half court defensive game that is so difficult to play in. Their defense is something all coaches at every level could learn something from.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on January 23, 2018, 07:56:18 pm
I didn't get to watch but I'll take every win we can get. Have to quit spotting teams double digit leads
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: thebigman3 on January 24, 2018, 09:26:31 am
Quote from: sportsguy80 on January 23, 2018, 07:38:51 pm
Your guess is as good as mines. Barford and Macon played very selfish on those last couple of possessions.
Seems like they do every time! I agree in clutch situations the ball should be in one of their hands, but at least get a good shot and don't force it. Macon is for sure bad about that.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: sportsguy80 on January 24, 2018, 04:08:40 pm
Quote from: thebigman3 on January 24, 2018, 09:26:31 am
Seems like they do every time! I agree in clutch situations the ball should be in one of their hands, but at least get a good shot and don't force it. Macon is for sure bad about that.
Yup. I'm just glad we got the win and hope we can build on it.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on January 24, 2018, 04:13:12 pm
Amazing we are 9-1 in our last one possession games. Can't remember anything looking like a drawn up play to get a bucket.

I guess it's just dribble the clock down take a contested or rushed shot. Hope it goes in or Qualls comes in and dunks it.

Also means that win we lose more often than not the game wasn't close for the most part
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: Trojanbird on January 24, 2018, 04:56:07 pm
Qualls??  I don't think he has played at all this year!
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on January 24, 2018, 06:20:02 pm
It's just a call back to that play against Kentucky and the way it continues to be to this day.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: Trojanbird on January 24, 2018, 10:55:32 pm
Why don't we work the ball through the post?  Is it me, but it seems that post play is a thing of the past.  Basketball has turned into a jump shooters game!  IMO
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: thebigman3 on January 25, 2018, 07:23:03 am
Quote from: Trojanbird on January 24, 2018, 10:55:32 pm
Why don't we work the ball through the post?  Is it me, but it seems that post play is a thing of the past.  Basketball has turned into a jump shooters game!  IMO
For sure. Even the big man now are turning into shooters to get the ball.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on January 27, 2018, 12:16:05 pm
Huge game today... Hope we don't lay an egg on national TV like last year against OK State
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: OB11 on January 27, 2018, 03:09:46 pm
What do yall think about Anderson's extention?
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on January 27, 2018, 05:21:16 pm
Quote from: OB11 on January 27, 2018, 03:09:46 pm
What do yall think about Anderson's extention?

He seriously just got an extension? I like MA and am not a hater but that is ridiculous. We need to see how this season plays out.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bleudog on January 27, 2018, 06:07:16 pm
Quote from: beach bum on January 27, 2018, 12:16:05 pm
Huge game today... Hope we don't lay an egg on national TV like last year against OK State

https://www.thescore.com/ncaab/events/123813/box_score
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on January 27, 2018, 06:09:44 pm
Quote from: bleudog on January 27, 2018, 06:07:16 pm
https://www.thescore.com/ncaab/events/123813/box_score

The last 10 seconds of the half if we end up losing by a few points will be what cost us... That was a 4 point swing when Thompson air balled a lay up then the guy for OK State drives the court and hits a buzzer beater.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on January 27, 2018, 06:11:06 pm
Well supposedly Long stated this extension talk after last season. Send Long was not worried about true success. IMO.

The article on it only mentioned the last two years success. Which we have had, can't deny that. Again IMO we are not where we should be.

This should have absolutely happened at the end of the season.

We are in another dogfight at home. Having to come from behind against a bunch of sophomores.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on January 27, 2018, 06:20:13 pm
Quote from: beach bum on January 27, 2018, 06:09:44 pm
The last 10 seconds of the half if we end up losing by a few points will be what cost us... That was a 4 point swing when Thompson air balled a lay up then the guy for OK State drives the court and hits a buzzer beater.
Kid just runs straight through the middle of us
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on January 27, 2018, 06:44:27 pm
Our depth should pay off in the game. OSU is missing two starters
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bleudog on January 27, 2018, 06:44:31 pm
Did the TV folks say The OkSU is playing with eight scholy players tonight?
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on January 27, 2018, 07:40:55 pm
Yep. Think they played 6 sophomores tonight. Could be wrong. One of their better players didn't even make the trip and another didn't dress out because of injury. So they were down to one pG.

And we struggle to beat them. How those last attempts didn't go down I'll never know

But hey a wins a win. I guess

You can expect games like this every once in a while but this is every game now. Not one game with a complete offensive and defensive performance put together. At some point the corner is going to be turned one way or another
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on January 27, 2018, 08:29:52 pm
Quote from: bdubyab60 on January 27, 2018, 07:40:55 pm
Yep. Think they played 6 sophomores tonight. Could be wrong. One of their better players didn't even make the trip and another didn't dress out because of injury. So they were down to one pG.

And we struggle to beat them. How those last attempts didn't go down I'll never know

But hey a wins a win. I guess

You can expect games like this every once in a while but this is every game now. Not one game with a complete offensive and defensive performance put together. At some point the corner is going to be turned one way or another

That was the first thing I said... I am a little surprised they didn't call a foul on the first shot then on the put back I could not believe it did not go in. OK State had to go ice cold too for us to win.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: thebigman3 on January 30, 2018, 10:25:17 am
Macon won SEC player of the week.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on January 30, 2018, 11:51:49 am
Texas A&M on the road tonight followed by a trip to Baton Rouge on Saturday. We must win one of these on the road because both of these teams are below us in the standings. Also, we need to redeem that horrible performance we showed against LSU at the Bud.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on January 30, 2018, 07:21:44 pm
A split would be good
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on January 30, 2018, 09:11:39 pm
Might wanna start guarding the 3 point line in this one
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on January 30, 2018, 09:13:49 pm
Quote from: bdubyab60 on January 30, 2018, 09:11:39 pm
Might wanna start guarding the 3 point line in this one

Literally down by one at half and they start the first 4 minutes on a 17-5 run to start blowing us away.... smh
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: sportsguy80 on January 30, 2018, 09:21:35 pm
Well this game went south fast...
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: Ctucker on January 30, 2018, 09:29:56 pm
We still suck!
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on January 30, 2018, 09:38:19 pm
Quote from: Ctucker on January 30, 2018, 09:29:56 pm
We still suck!

It's getting very disheartening that every game we win we pull it out by the skin of our teeth, and when we lose we get steam rolled.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: sportsguy80 on January 30, 2018, 09:41:12 pm
Inconsistent sums up our team and season!
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on January 30, 2018, 10:56:38 pm
The good news. Probably still in the tourney. Will take several losses to knock us out.

The bad. We still look horrible even when we win. The stretch's of no defense or no offense are killing us.

IMO this is what we are and what we are going to be for the the foreseeable future. Especially with this staff. MAs unwillingness or stubbornness to change or even make simple adjustments in game is maddening.

When we can't push pace we struggle offensively. We are a poor defensive team that plays defense in spurts. Lack of any kind of halfcourt offense is inexcusable. Not saying it's got to be Princeton but just a couple sets instead of our stagnant motion offense we run.

I'm a fan so I watch, I complain, I hope we get better but I expect better as well. This is not what I think of when I think of Arkansas Basketball
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: Trojanbird on January 30, 2018, 11:26:31 pm
Like I said before, lack of discipline and poor coaching.  Neither of which will change as long as Mike is here.  IMO
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: cuckoobird on January 31, 2018, 07:53:57 am
I agree, coaching is the issue. Time to let mike go but the smart people just gave him an extension.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on January 31, 2018, 08:06:43 am
Quote from: cuckoobird on January 31, 2018, 07:53:57 am
I agree, coaching is the issue. Time to let mike go but the smart people just gave him an extension.

The word is surprise, surprise..... That this was agreed and signed when Long was AD in the fall and they just announced it now?? I think we are seeing more and more reason why Long went packing when Bert if that is true. Long was such an idiot.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: thebigman3 on January 31, 2018, 09:19:58 am
Quote from: cuckoobird on January 31, 2018, 07:53:57 am
I agree, coaching is the issue. Time to let mike go but the smart people just gave him an extension.
I'm still not giving up on Anderson. He isn't a great recruiter, no, but he is a good coach I think. He also brings a crowd. When Pelphrey was here I don't ever remember it being sold out this many times in a season. He was good his first two years, but after that wasn't much of anything. Consistency is the key and Anderson has made the Tournament 2 of the last 3 seasons. Just can't get over big baby blue. Last year they almost beat them, and I think they would have but how do the refs miss a charge and before that a walk? Arkansas is not playing good right now, and they do need to pick it up, but I'm not sold that we need to get rid of Anderson just yet.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on January 31, 2018, 07:28:13 pm
I see the UNC game posted a lot. As some kind of marker as if we are almost there. It's a game we didn't close out, bottom line. But some of the same things we have been seeing this entire time came up at the end of the game. Instead of playing aggressive the ball went to one player and stopped. Looking for a call from a ref instead attacking. That's what really cost us in that game.

Hville is littered with blame the refs topics. There is a reason our foul count is always higher. Just watch how we play defense. A lot of teaching and slapping. We have one player that moves his feet to play defense and that's Hall. The defense we play where we end up with Gafford at halfcourt guarding a guard can only lead to one thing and that's fouling.

It's absolutely ridiculous to blame refs when we are as inconsistent as all get out.

It's also not ok for us just to get in the tourney. I expect a run in the tourney. Not every year but at least a run and that's been a minute. That run should have been this year but it's really hard to see that coming with the way have played for a month. This isn't a slump this is this team.

MA is an ok coach. He wins, he's an ok recruiter but there's issues here. Most every player he gets seems to be a project. An athlete that happens to play basketball. Just not pure basketball players. Or at least that's my opinion.

But this current team is absolutely been poorly coached through this stretch and he has some egos in this team. They are way to spot.

And until proven otherwise this is absolutely our ceiling. 1 and done. One post season ranking and one week at 22.

I want relevance on the National stage. This program can be that and should be. I find it strange that folks are happy with just getting in. We want hardware of some kind.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: thebigman3 on February 01, 2018, 09:46:50 am
I imagine it is posted a lot cause they won. I see what your saying though. He is an ok recruiter. But I think he is a good coach. He did well at Missouri and has made us at least a winning program again. I would like to see a run at the sweet 16.. May not happen this year though.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on February 03, 2018, 03:38:52 pm
Again.... What a shocker.... Our defense stinks. We aren't even trying some possessions. Ready for Beard to not be on this team anymore. He does not even try on defense sometimes.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: Trojanbird on February 03, 2018, 03:51:51 pm
Don't you just love watching Gafford guarding the guy bringing the ball up the court?   ???
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on February 03, 2018, 04:50:15 pm
Sometimes I drive the 3/4 of mile up to the high school gym. On some of those nights I see coach's making adjustments, drawing up plays and motivating players.

I haven't seen that in one game this year or in his tenure here. Really tough to watch
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: Trojanbird on February 03, 2018, 05:27:59 pm
But he talks a good game just like Biellma did!
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: HorseFeathers on February 03, 2018, 05:51:03 pm
Quote from: bdubyab60 on February 03, 2018, 04:50:15 pm
Sometimes I drive the 3/4 of mile up to the high school gym. On some of those nights I see coach's making adjustments, drawing up plays and motivating players.

I haven't seen that in one game this year or in his tenure here. Really tough to watch

Fans got what they wanted tho
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: Trojanbird on February 03, 2018, 11:25:55 pm
I don't think the fans would have given him an extension on his contact though!
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: Ctucker on February 04, 2018, 07:44:35 am
NIT maybe!
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: Trojanbird on February 04, 2018, 12:51:05 pm
I won't watch it!
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on February 05, 2018, 06:48:54 am
Quote from: HorseFeathers on February 03, 2018, 05:51:03 pm
Fans got what they wanted tho
I was ok with the hire. But I wasn't like, man we got to get MA.

I do expect better and that is with any coach.

It's sort of like Bielema now. Losing games is expected. But win you lose or win and your players look disinterested, lack of effort and just plain poorly coached is the issue.

I see basically one player give max effort each time he's on the floor and that's Hall.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: sportsguy80 on February 05, 2018, 07:30:36 am
Quote from: bdubyab60 on February 05, 2018, 06:48:54 am
I was ok with the hire. But I wasn't like, man we got to get MA.

I do expect better and that is with any coach.

It's sort of like Bielema now. Losing games is expected. But win you lose or win and your players look disinterested, lack of effort and just plain poorly coached is the issue.

I see basically one player give max effort each time he's on the floor and that's Hall.
Yup and he's a true freshman... Some thought I was off track by predicting he would be a starter before the season was over. You can tell he loves the game regardless of which coach or team he plays for. I really wish Coach A would stick to a lineup that keeps Beard and Macon coming off the bench. We have too many scoreless spurts and we need balance scoring at all times during the game. It's hard to tell by the way we're playing now that at the beginning of the season we were averaging almost 100 a game.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: Romeo on February 05, 2018, 12:39:44 pm
Darious Hall reminds me of Derek Hood. He should be a starter.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: AirWarren on February 05, 2018, 01:02:08 pm
Quote from: Romeo on February 05, 2018, 12:39:44 pm
Darious Hall reminds me of Derek Hood. He should be a starter.

Yup. He needs the ball more.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on February 05, 2018, 03:37:27 pm
Quote from: Romeo on February 05, 2018, 12:39:44 pm
Darious Hall reminds me of Derek Hood. He should be a starter.
I think he had more upside than Hood. Looks to be a better shooter and better handles
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: sportsguy80 on February 05, 2018, 08:00:08 pm
And I don't know why Bailey isn't getting any minutes. He went from a starter to barely playing.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on February 05, 2018, 08:19:23 pm
Quote from: sportsguy80 on February 05, 2018, 08:00:08 pm
And I don't know why Bailey isn't getting any minutes. He went from a starter to barely playing.

I said that the LSU game.... I said "where is Bailey?"... He finally came in and was one of the few guys busting his tail. There are only a few of em and he is one of them.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on February 05, 2018, 10:34:07 pm
I'm not real sure either. Maybe something to do with loyalty to his seniors. They have a way longer leash than anyone. I guess it should be like that. However if one of those guys is putting in more effort that should be rewarded.

MA is loyal to a fault in all his decisions he makes. Refuses to put a top notch recruiter on staff, refuses to fill a spot with another coach that can cover his weaknesses. I loved all those guys as players over on the bench. But I do question their coaching ability. You shouldn't have a staff full of first coaching job guys.

If MA retains his job some changes need to be made. He can still run this system or whatever it is but bring someone in that can put some sets in for when you are struggling and be willing to make those adjustments in game.

Recruit basketball players. Not just athletes that happen to play basketball.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: thebigman3 on February 06, 2018, 09:11:53 am
Quote from: bdubyab60 on February 05, 2018, 10:34:07 pm
I'm not real sure either. Maybe something to do with loyalty to his seniors. They have a way longer leash than anyone. I guess it should be like that. However if one of those guys is putting in more effort that should be rewarded.

MA is loyal to a fault in all his decisions he makes. Refuses to put a top notch recruiter on staff, refuses to fill a spot with another coach that can cover his weaknesses. I loved all those guys as players over on the bench. But I do question their coaching ability. You shouldn't have a staff full of first coaching job guys.

If MA retains his job some changes need to be made. He can still run this system or whatever it is but bring someone in that can put some sets in for when you are struggling and be willing to make those adjustments in game.

Recruit basketball players. Not just athletes that happen to play basketball.
+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: Trojanbird on February 06, 2018, 09:52:57 am
Very well said!
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on February 06, 2018, 06:32:00 pm
I don't want to jinx us, but this funky line up of Barford, Thompson, Hall, Jones, and even Osabuohien who has not played since I can not remember when is actually moving the ball around fast and running up and down playing team basketball. Their collective overall effort is high right now too.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on February 06, 2018, 07:49:09 pm
Osabuohein deserves some bench minutes the rest of the year out.... He has been rotating and helping on defense, taking a charge, getting offensive rebounds, and running up and down the floor hustling. I am glad MA is actually giving the guys that want to play hard minutes. This is the first time I have seen us in over a month control a game throughout and it took the role players to do it with their energy. That got our scorers out and going.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: sportsguy80 on February 06, 2018, 08:13:23 pm
I like the mix in rotation. He must have got the message about Bailey playing more too lol. Maybe just maybe we can get things figured out heading into tournament time.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on February 06, 2018, 08:18:44 pm
Quote from: sportsguy80 on February 06, 2018, 08:13:23 pm
I like the mix in rotation. He must have got the message about Bailey playing more too lol. Maybe just maybe we can get things figured out heading into tournament time.

Beard played less and that helped.... Letting Macon and Barford get most of the shots with 3 other guys out there that flat out want to play hard on the defensive end made us look like the old non conference Hogs. First time I have said that was a fun game to watch from us in I couldn't tell you how long.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: thebigman3 on February 06, 2018, 11:14:44 pm
Quote from: beach bum on February 06, 2018, 08:18:44 pm
Beard played less and that helped.... Letting Macon and Barford get most of the shots with 3 other guys out there that flat out want to play hard on the defensive end made us look like the old non conference Hogs. First time I have said that was a fun game to watch from us in I couldn't tell you how long.
Since Oklahoma for me lol
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: Redwolves8526 on February 07, 2018, 08:14:40 am
They definitely moved the ball A LOT better last night. It seems like on this recent losing skid, they were playing a ton of 1 on 1 ball. Last night, Macon and Barford didn't need to create their own shot as much
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on February 07, 2018, 06:14:50 pm
Like the win. We showed more effort on defense. Liked some of the guys that had been in the bench getting some PT. Won this game like we probably should have.

I don't want to get to excited though. SC was a horrible offensive team and they are in the bottom of the conference for that reason. I think MA made some adjustments because of the opponent we were playing. I don't think he makes them if we are playing a better team. We will see if it continues.

Some of the same issues are still there. We were just able to win those one on one matchups. However movement was better offensively.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: sportsguy80 on February 07, 2018, 08:05:56 pm
I know our defensive intensity isn't always there but teams are shooting the three ball very well in our losses. That's why we need to continue limiting our turnovers and make good shot selections on the offensive end to keep giving ourselves a chance.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on February 10, 2018, 10:01:08 pm
It would be nice to have about 2 more wins in the pocket to be almost assured a berth at this point, but considering where we were at 2-4 and 4-6 at one point in league play I will take 6-6 in SEC and 17-8 overall. 4 of the next 6 and we get in no matter if we lose the first game at the SEC tourney. 3-3 and we probably need a 1 win in Saint Louis. Go 2-4 these last 6 games and they better make a deep run in the SEC tourney. The game at Ole Miss coming up is massive. Its a road game that is winnable and we have to win to get to 9-9 or 10-8.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: sportsguy80 on February 10, 2018, 11:30:23 pm
I was at the game and we played defense like we are supposed to. The refs were horrible but we kept playing hard. If we can get this consistency with the rest of our games we will be ok.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: Trojanbird on February 11, 2018, 09:53:46 am
Maybe these guys are beginning to get it figured out and are coming together as a TEAM!
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on February 11, 2018, 10:17:39 am
All I saw was highlights. But we beat another bad team like we should have
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: Trojanbird on February 11, 2018, 04:44:48 pm
Very true
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on February 13, 2018, 08:10:36 pm
7-6 in SEC now and first time above .500 since being 1-0 after the Tennessee win early in the season.... A&M is on Saturday at Bud and A&M just lost a close game at Mizzou. This game worries me even at home cause A&M is going to be hungry cause they are 6-7 and do not want to drop 2 games below .500 ...... plus they are just a bad matchup for us. Gafford can not get in foul trouble against their front line and we better be making some three's against the Aggies.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on February 13, 2018, 08:18:50 pm
3 wins over the bottom of the league. But those wins are good because we beat bad teams like you should.

Play defense against A&M. Get the crowd in it and we have a shot
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: sportsguy80 on February 13, 2018, 09:05:50 pm
We are starting to gel at the right time which is what every coach and fan wants. A win is a win especially when it's close to March. I'm gonna predict that we will pull out a tough win Saturday and move to 8-6 in arguably the best conference.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on February 13, 2018, 10:23:01 pm
Should have been gelled before conference play. We should be competing year in and year out for the SEC title. I know we have finished high the past couple years but basically after the first two weeks of conference play the conference title has been all but gone. Shouldn't be having to hope for other teams to lose to get a conference title.

We should want these things. The goal, or at least in my mind, isn't just making it in the tourney.

SEC crowns, SEC tourney titles and deep runs are what should be EXPECTED.

I'll think everything has gelled. When 1. We beat a team that isn't in the cellar of this conference, only one I can remember is TN. 2. Plays a full ballgame of offense and defense, 10 straight minutes without scoring in this game. 3. And the tough wins the SEC tourney and gets a seed higher than 8.

I have my doubts that we have turned some corner. Maybe we have and playing these 3 horrible teams has helped
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: AirWarren on February 14, 2018, 05:55:47 am
18-8
7-6

Fire mike!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on February 14, 2018, 12:10:19 pm
Still not relevant in the overall landscape of NCAA basketball. Biggest thing we have done since he's been here is almost beat UNC once and a mediocre Kentucky team a few years back.

Does he need fired. If we slip again and don't make the tourney. Yep IMO. He won't be though. Because recruits and so on.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: AirWarren on February 14, 2018, 12:41:21 pm
Quote from: bdubyab60 on February 14, 2018, 12:10:19 pm
Still not relevant in the overall landscape of NCAA basketball. Biggest thing we have done since he's been here is almost beat UNC once and a mediocre Kentucky team a few years back.

Does he need fired. If we slip again and don't make the tourney. Yep IMO. He won't be though. Because recruits and so on.

What's relevant in the basketball landscape?

26-0?
13-0?
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on February 14, 2018, 01:39:34 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on February 14, 2018, 12:41:21 pm
What's relevant in the basketball landscape?

26-0?
13-0?
Stated in other posts. SEC titles and so on. We have been ranked twice for like a total of less than a week.

I expect more. You can be happy with these results if you want, that's your prerogative
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on February 14, 2018, 01:49:10 pm
I think with Macon and Barford back it would have been nice to be sitting at 20-6 right now as a tough, but realistic option heading into the year..... But I will take where we are at right now considering the way we were playing effort wise a month ago was appalling and a head scratcher to say the least. As long as we don't lose more than we win the rest of the way out we are safely in. We won't even have to worry about one of those play in games as an 11 or 12 seed as one of Lunardi's "last 4 in" category. I just want to see us get in and play with the effort we have the last 3 games. You just have to get in to even have a chance. I think realistically you would rather be the 10 seed this season than the 8/9 game. There is a massive drop off between teams defenses that look like they will be a 1 seed like Xavier, Villanova, Michigan State, and especially Virginia and what are the 2 seeds. Teams at the 2 line like a Kansas have suspect defense at times and I would like our chance with those teams. We do not want to play a Virginia or Villanova. Their style would put the clamp down on our style and it would not be pretty.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on February 14, 2018, 02:02:47 pm
Here is another reason people are not satisfied in general and its all around college basketball.... Has anyone else noticed the last 4 or 5 years with the expansion to large power conferences of as many as 14 teams and the new look Big East of new teams like Creighton, Xavier, and Butler in them. That has caused more teams with "suspect or soft" resumes to get in because ten years ago more mid majors made the tournament. I can remember when the Missouri Valley had 5 teams make the NCAA tourney about a decade ago with Southern Illinois as a 1 seed even. The Atlantic 10 used to routinely get 4 teams in almost every year. I remember the old look Conference USA getting 7 teams one season. What this has done is it is allowing more teams that finish 9-9 in their conference to make the NCAA tournament and even rarely 8-10 teams. You may see Kentucky go 8-10 this season and get a decent seed even. That goes for Oklahoma too now. When teams like Wichita State, Creighton, Butler, and others bailed for better leagues it will take time for new mid major teams to assert themselves as new powers in place of the old mid majors. That is why people at Arkansas or anywhere for that matter should not be satisfied by getting in the NCAA tournament with a losing conference record. There is nothing acceptable about that. Its not any schools fault, but merely a transitioning of times that has created this scenario for many schools. Just 5 years ago our current resume we would be right on the bubble, but now we are currently safely in because the absence of as many mid major powers as the past. Heck, I remember a year when Syracuse went 10-6 in the old Big East and did not get a bid because some mid majors took their place. Virginia Tech's coach got fired because his two years going 10-6 in the ACC got them in the NIT and no bid to the big dance.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on February 15, 2018, 03:46:12 pm
Crazy how the RPI and strength of schedule plays into the modern NCAA tournament. Lunardi updated is bracketology today and we have moved down to an 11 even after winning 3 games in a row. When we were 4-6 in SEC after the LSU loss he had us sitting as a 9 seed even after the loss. We were a 10 seed last time he updated before the Ole Miss game. When we lost he kept us steady and now that we are beating the bottom of the league he drops us.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: sportsguy80 on February 15, 2018, 10:37:53 pm
Quote from: beach bum on February 15, 2018, 03:46:12 pm
Crazy how the RPI and strength of schedule plays into the modern NCAA tournament. Lunardi updated is bracketology today and we have moved down to an 11 even after winning 3 games in a row. When we were 4-6 in SEC after the LSU loss he had us sitting as a 9 seed even after the loss. We were a 10 seed last time he updated before the Ole Miss game. When we lost he kept us steady and now that we are beating the bottom of the league he drops us.
Good thing Lunardi's bracket isn't the official one even though it's not that difficult to figure out who's getting what seed. I think his has been somewhat accurate but I remember when ESPN hired him to compare his brackets to everyone else's.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on February 15, 2018, 11:43:05 pm
He's usually fairly close. But it does lend some credence to what I've said. Happy for the 3 in a row.

Those are BAD teams though and they don't boost you very much. Our best win on the season at one time doesn't look as good either with OUs slide.

A slipup at home and we start knocking on the bubble door possibly
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on February 16, 2018, 04:09:51 pm
So I'm watching Finebaum. He has Lunardi on talking about seedlings. Has notable seedings. No mention of  Hogs. Relevance folks.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on February 16, 2018, 09:18:48 pm
Quote from: bdubyab60 on February 16, 2018, 04:09:51 pm
So I'm watching Finebaum. He has Lunardi on talking about seedlings. Has notable seedings. No mention of  Hogs. Relevance folks.

I'm just happy they talked about something besides Alabama football  8) haha
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on February 17, 2018, 07:45:24 am
Nope. Now it's Bama and Auburn basketball they are talking about now.



Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: Trojanbird on February 17, 2018, 03:34:47 pm
Solid start for the hogs!
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on February 17, 2018, 03:56:57 pm
Been a physical game so far
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on February 17, 2018, 04:59:55 pm
Holy crap am out of bounds play after a TO
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: sportsguy80 on February 17, 2018, 05:11:42 pm
Statement game. Big blue nation up next...
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on February 17, 2018, 05:18:28 pm
Wow, every team in front of us that has played lost. The SEC standings are a log jam. We are tied for 3rd with a boatload of teams. Let's all root for Tennessee to lose at Georgia too later and we will be one game out of the 2 spot.

Auburn 11-3
Tennessee 9-4
Arkansas 8-6
Missouri 8-6
Florida 8-6
Alabama 8-6
Kentucky 7-7
Miss State 6-7
LSU 6-8
Texas A&M 6-8
Georgia 5-8
Vanderbilt 5-9
South Carolina 5-9
Ole Miss 4-9

Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: sportsguy80 on February 17, 2018, 05:30:22 pm
Quote from: beach bum on February 17, 2018, 05:18:28 pm
Wow, every team in front of us that has played lost. The SEC standings are a log jam. We are tied for 3rd with a boatload of teams. Let's all root for Tennessee to lose at Georgia too later and we will be one game out of the 2 spot.

Auburn 11-3
Tennessee 9-4
Arkansas 8-6
Missouri 8-6
Florida 8-6
Alabama 8-6
Kentucky 7-7
Miss State 6-7
LSU 6-8
Texas A&M 6-8
Georgia 5-8
Vanderbilt 5-9
South Carolina 5-9
Ole Miss 4-9
Amazing what a losing or for our sake a winning streak can do. The SEC tournament should be a very good one.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on February 17, 2018, 05:53:26 pm
That win there. Was better than the past 3 combined. That was a complete game. Offensively and defensively. Playing like that against a poor shooting Kentucky team. I like our chances to beat them easily.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on February 17, 2018, 05:54:03 pm
I'll pump the brakes a little and just take a win
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: AirWarren on February 17, 2018, 06:48:35 pm
19-8
8-6

Fire mike!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on February 17, 2018, 08:41:59 pm
Down goes Tennessee..... We would have to get 3 of the next 4 and hope to get some help along the way, but to think the parity in the SEC right now that about half the teams believe right now they can get the 2 seed at the SEC tourney is crazy.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on February 18, 2018, 07:24:23 am
Kind of cluttered from two on down
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on February 18, 2018, 09:29:16 pm
Quote from: bdubyab60 on February 18, 2018, 07:24:23 am
Kind of cluttered from two on down

Even a team like Vanderbilt at 5-9 has a guy like Lechance who just exudes leadership and tenacity. A bottom team like South Carolina even has a defense and coach like Frank Martin who can take out a top team. This has turned out to be a fun year in the league when the preseason hype all around I was not sure was merited. Its been fun though.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on February 18, 2018, 10:09:44 pm
Been some crazy games for sure. Makes you wonder where we would be at if we had our crap together at the start of conference.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on February 20, 2018, 08:15:49 pm
Kentucky is horrible
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: AirWarren on February 20, 2018, 08:37:23 pm
Quote from: bdubyab60 on February 20, 2018, 08:15:49 pm
Kentucky is horrible

So are we at 19-8.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on February 20, 2018, 08:53:28 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on February 20, 2018, 08:37:23 pm
So are we at 19-8.
I guess you didn't watch how the game started. Enough bricks to build a nice outhouse. But of course we let them right back in it

Get off my case you know we playing like crap and if we don't make the tourney he needs to go.

This is also a Kentucky we should beat. Not near as good as they usually are by a long shot
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: AirWarren on February 20, 2018, 08:57:42 pm
Quote from: bdubyab60 on February 20, 2018, 08:53:28 pm
I guess you didn't watch how the game started. Enough bricks to build a nice outhouse. But of course we let them right back in it

Get off my case you know we playing like crap and if we don't make the tourney he needs to go.

This is also a Kentucky we should beat. Not near as good as they usually are by a long shot

You're one of those never good enough hog fans.

Come out 11-0 on Kentucky and Kentucky sucks.

Come out 0-11 and Arkansas sucks and should fire Mike.

Silly.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: AirWarren on February 20, 2018, 08:59:29 pm
43-43. Whoa as me. Kentucky sucks. Fire mike.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: sportsguy80 on February 20, 2018, 09:03:29 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on February 20, 2018, 08:59:29 pm
43-43. Whoa as me. Kentucky sucks. Fire mike.
Right lol. I guess fire Coach Cal too since Kentucky isn't ranked in the top 5...
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on February 20, 2018, 09:18:52 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on February 20, 2018, 08:57:42 pm
You're one of those never good enough hog fans.

Come out 11-0 on Kentucky and Kentucky sucks.

Come out 0-11 and Arkansas sucks and should fire Mike.

Silly.
No Kentucky was horrible to start the game, were they not.

If we don't make the tourney. WE SHOULD FIRE MIKE.

What's silly is excepting the way this conference season started. There is absolutely no reason that the next time we play that it should t have been for the SEC regular season title.

I ABSOLUTELY want more from the program. I've made that absolutely clear. That is not silly. That is having higher expectations.

You guys can settle. We are favored to win this game and we should.

And if you don't think that Kentucky fans aren't happy with their season you've lost your mind.

I'm happy with every win. Maybe not with how we played but I'll take every win.

I'm sorry for expecting more than just good enough.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on February 20, 2018, 09:22:58 pm
And that should put Gafford back on SC top 10
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on February 20, 2018, 09:33:25 pm
It has been and exciting game though.

And I don't know if he's ready but I'd MA can talk Gafford in to one more year it would a good deal
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on February 20, 2018, 09:48:57 pm
This second half we are playing like we did when we were in our slump earlier in the year.... There is no energy and movement.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on February 20, 2018, 10:04:04 pm
Quit. Acceptable results. How silly of me. I'm on board 19-9 keep on trucking.

Exactly one complete game in the past two months and that was against A&M last week
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on February 20, 2018, 10:18:28 pm
Quote from: bdubyab60 on February 20, 2018, 10:04:04 pm
Quit. Acceptable results. How silly of me. I'm on board 19-9 keep on trucking.

Exactly one complete game in the past two months and that was against A&M last week

We finally created some space in the standings to only put ourselves back against the wall again after tonight. We must find a way to win one of the next two and they're both tough ones. Alabama in Tuscaloosa and SEC leader Auburn on senior night here next week.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: Trojanbird on February 20, 2018, 10:29:20 pm
Too much one on one play and too many forced shots.  We looked tired down the stretch.
Did anyone notice that our last 2 three point attempts were not even close to the iron?
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on February 21, 2018, 05:21:41 am
Quote from: beach bum on February 20, 2018, 10:18:28 pm
We finally created some space in the standings to only put ourselves back against the wall again after tonight. We must find a way to win one of the next two and they're both tough ones. Alabama in Tuscaloosa and SEC leader Auburn on senior night here next week.
Two y'all tasks. I was hoping the first 3 of the winning streak taught us to play defense again. Then the A&M game was like okay that really did help us. Then we fell back in to old habits.

First 5 minutes of this game we competed on the boards and made shots. Then Kentucky made a move, why we still pressed is beyond me. We have the weakest press in the country it seems, gives up way to many baskets and I don't know how many dunks they got. We aren't able to be patient on offense at all.

This is twice we have been a 60% plus favorite at home and really just got handled.

Beating Bama in Bama is a y'all order with the guards they have. I don't think we have anyone who can check Sexton. Auburn is beat up now so that is in our favor and it is at home.

So I don't think it's to much to ask for a split. Or at least hope for one
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: AirWarren on February 21, 2018, 08:03:44 am
Key to the game.

36-6

Kentucky bench to our bench.

And I'm still behind it. 19-9. No reason to start calling for mikes head yet.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on February 21, 2018, 08:13:21 am
Quote from: AirWarren on February 21, 2018, 08:03:44 am
Key to the game.

36-6

Kentucky bench to our bench.

And I'm still behind it. 19-9. No reason to start calling for mikes head yet.

The person I was watching it with immediately at half time says.... "The stage seems a little too bright for Hall and CJ Jones on offense. They're shots look like lasers tonight." ...........No production from the 2nd unit is definitely what lost us the game last night in the middle 20 minutes of the game.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on February 21, 2018, 08:14:46 am
Quote from: Trojanbird on February 20, 2018, 10:29:20 pm
Too much one on one play and too many forced shots.  We looked tired down the stretch.
Did anyone notice that our last 2 three point attempts were not even close to the iron?

Yes, even Barford seemed tired at the end of the game. They were all over him like glue. They really locked him down last night.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: AirWarren on February 21, 2018, 09:29:48 am
Quote from: beach bum on February 21, 2018, 08:13:21 am
The person I was watching it with immediately at half time says.... "The stage seems a little too bright for Hall and CJ Jones on offense. They're shots look like lasers tonight." ...........No production from the 2nd unit is definitely what lost us the game last night in the middle 20 minutes of the game.

Hall and jones looked like deer in headlights.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: Romeo on February 21, 2018, 03:14:59 pm
Seemed like they were too hyped, or in retired terms got "crunk" before the game and burned themselves out as the game got longer.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: thebigman3 on February 22, 2018, 09:11:39 am
I mean how many Fg's did we hit in the last 6 minutes of the game?...2? 3? maybe it seems like. And still only lost by 15. That's just awful. Granted Kentucky's D was very good, but cmon now man..
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: sportsguy80 on February 22, 2018, 09:19:03 pm
Yeah we looked very sluggish in the second half. Kentucky kept grinding and finished strong. Bama presents some matchup problems and it's a road game which adds more difficulty. Hopefully we can play a complete game and give ourselves a chance. I keep saying this is the best conference this year and the tournament will further prove it. Wouldn't be surprised if a lower seed won the SEC tournament.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on February 22, 2018, 09:31:03 pm
Quote from: sportsguy80 on February 22, 2018, 09:19:03 pm
Yeah we looked very sluggish in the second half. Kentucky kept grinding and finished strong. Bama presents some matchup problems and it's a road game which adds more difficulty. Hopefully we can play a complete game and give ourselves a chance. I keep saying this is the best conference this year and the tournament will further prove it. Wouldn't be surprised if a lower seed won the SEC tournament.



Can't believe there are six teams at 8-7 right now all tied for 3rd and then LSU at 7-8.... I seriously don't know if all those teams should be frustrated or happy with the uniqueness of these standings. There will more than likely be two teams that finish 10-8 and get a double bye as the 3 and 4 seed if they own the right tiebreakers. I am almost certain we will not see two teams be 10-8 and get double byes at the SEC tournament ever again. This has been such a strange conference year.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: sportsguy80 on February 24, 2018, 06:39:00 pm
We could have really used Bailey against Kentucky. I saw him on the bench that game but he didn't play. Glad he's getting some good minutes today.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on February 24, 2018, 07:13:59 pm
Another nail biter but I'll take it
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on February 24, 2018, 07:20:38 pm
Wow... I'll take it. We guaranteed we would at least be .500 in conference play now.... Let's take out Auburn and our seeding will improve possibly to get us out of that 8 or 9 seed spot. I don't want to play Virginia or a team like that in the 2nd round in a few weeks.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: AirWarren on February 24, 2018, 07:43:07 pm
20-9. Fire Mike!
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: sportsguy80 on February 24, 2018, 08:35:15 pm
We need to show up and show out for senior night. I would love for us to go into the SEC tournament on a three game winning streak.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on February 24, 2018, 08:39:43 pm
Quote from: sportsguy80 on February 24, 2018, 08:35:15 pm
We need to show up and show out for senior night. I would love for us to go into the SEC tournament on a three game winning streak.

We really need to get out of that 8 vs 9 spot we seem to be hovering at. Hot streak up to 7 or land at a 10 would be ideal seeds
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on February 25, 2018, 10:09:28 am
Quote from: beach bum on February 24, 2018, 08:39:43 pm
We really need to get out of that 8 vs 9 spot we seem to be hovering at. Hot streak up to 7 or land at a 10 would be ideal seeds
If we want to go past the second round that would surely help
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on February 27, 2018, 09:38:08 pm
Hogs need to hold on.... We are sitting at about a 9 point lead with 10 ish minutes left..
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on February 27, 2018, 10:05:44 pm
We're about to clinch the winning conference record.... We need a win at Mizzou then to have Florida or Kentucky lose one to get top 4 and a double bye. It looks like we will sit anywhere between the 4 seed and 6 in the SEC tournament depending on our last game and what Florida and Kentucky do.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: AirWarren on February 27, 2018, 10:21:12 pm
21-9. Fire Mike!!!!!!
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: sportsguy80 on February 27, 2018, 11:42:46 pm
Wps!!!
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on February 28, 2018, 07:59:56 am
Good win on senior night. Maybe we can get the tourney crown
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: Lions84 on February 28, 2018, 10:13:51 am
Quote from: bdubyab60 on February 28, 2018, 07:59:56 am
Good win on senior night. Maybe we can get the tourney crown

The Hogs were on fire last night.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on February 28, 2018, 10:27:01 am
Quote from: Lions84 on February 28, 2018, 10:13:51 am
The Hogs were on fire last night.
10-19 from 3 I think
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on February 28, 2018, 09:12:22 pm
Gafford is finally staying out of foul trouble more consistently and we are starting to see the 3 headed monster we all thought we would.... Plus the role players are sprinkling in here and there like we need. Two solid back to back games from CJ Jones off the bench to redeem is previous lull he was in.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on February 28, 2018, 11:01:24 pm
It's been good to see CJ get some confidence and making some shots
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: DerekOxford on March 03, 2018, 10:53:35 am
No Michael Porter Jr for Mizzou today.

If Hogs can find a way to win up there and win SECT, they have an outside shot of a 4 seed. More likely a 5 as they'd need some teams ahead of them on seed lines to lose early in league tourneys.

I think they're a 6 with a win today and only winning one SECT game. Anything less and they're a 7.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: AirWarren on March 03, 2018, 04:26:29 pm
Chance at Kentucky or Florida more than likely if we get passed second round. Man, wish our seniors could knock them out before they leave.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on March 03, 2018, 06:49:53 pm
ITV would be nice to beat either one them.

Right now not sharing the ball as much as we have been and mizzou is playing their butt off.

Need to put together a run
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: Trojanbird on March 03, 2018, 07:15:02 pm
It seems that when we think that we have turned the corner, we just take a couple of steps backwards!
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on March 03, 2018, 08:37:30 pm
A 6 seed for the SEC tourney.

From worst to a double bye for mizzou in one year.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on March 03, 2018, 10:32:08 pm
You would think we need 2 wins now to make sure we aren't in that 8 seed line.... I wouldn't want to lose to Florida on Friday and leave it up to chance. We need to take care of business Thursday against an inferior opponent then try to get a win against the Gators. That will assure we are not in that 8 seed. Lose to Florida and we may be cutting it thin trying to get at least a 7 seed.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: sportsguy80 on March 04, 2018, 12:30:19 pm
Trust me the way this season is going we need to be prepared to face whoever. There isn't much separation after the top tier teams in the country. I expect more than average first round upsets from double digit seeded teams at the big dance.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on March 04, 2018, 02:27:58 pm
The cream usually rises to the top. There are always early round upsets. But Cinderella is usually at home in bed after the 3rd round most of the time.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bulldoghistorian on March 05, 2018, 08:56:22 pm
Had a chance to get a double bye in the conference tournament, but didn't get it done at Mizzou the other night! Hopefully we've got a postseason run in us!!
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: cuckoobird on March 05, 2018, 09:03:34 pm
Guys this is as good as we will ever be under Anderson.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on March 05, 2018, 09:53:36 pm
Dustin Thomas kicked off the team.... He couldn't even make it three more weeks. You really worry about a guy like that's future in life past basketball. I hope this is something he can correct moving forward in life after basketball.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on March 05, 2018, 10:17:59 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on March 05, 2018, 09:03:34 pm
Guys this is as good as we will ever be under Anderson.
But we have made the tourney 3 out of 4 years now
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on March 05, 2018, 10:19:31 pm
Quote from: beach bum on March 05, 2018, 09:53:36 pm
Dustin Thomas kicked off the team.... He couldn't even make it three more weeks. You really worry about a guy like that's future in life past basketball. I hope this is something he can correct moving forward in life after basketball.
Addition by subtraction
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on March 06, 2018, 10:55:36 am
It is being revealed in early February Thomas was issued a citation by Fayetteville PD for possessing a small amount of marijuana... I imagine had this been his first occurrence of discipline issues he would still be on the team with a slap on the wrist. This is an impact of being in the dog house ever since the Beard/Jacorey Williams deal when he was with them. It appears Beard out of those 3 guys is the only one who will make it through the program. Cook went through a similar situation and seems to have barely made it out of that. I respect that about MA. He will give guys second chances, but they get put on a tight leash. I think we can all say this instance alone for Thomas isn't that big of a deal. However, the guy has to be smarter than that when on his final straw. I hear guys talk about the NFL combine drug test. Really, when they fail a drug test its not a big deal. What that really amounts to is an intelligence test because you know the test is coming and still fail or it is a red flag for bigger substance issues cause you can't put it down for your most important moment in your life up to that point. Thomas literally couldn't wait until April and he would be free to do as he pleased moving forward after that.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bulldoghistorian on March 07, 2018, 11:11:42 pm
We get South Carolina in our 1st game in the SEC tournament tomorrow night at 8:00.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bulldoghistorian on March 08, 2018, 11:26:36 pm
Get a shot at Florida tomorrow night!
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on March 09, 2018, 06:00:13 am
Glad Barford made a couple big plays down the stretch. That one was getting scary
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: sportsguy80 on March 09, 2018, 07:13:39 am
Free throws!!! There would have been a big chance of losing this game if we didn't shoot that well. Amazing how we find ways to win and lose. I've noticed that we beat ourselves in almost all our losses rather than teams flat out dominating us. Makes you wonder how many more wins we would have if we were more consistent. Nevertheless big win over a tough SC team in a very competitive tournament.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: WPWells on March 09, 2018, 08:17:11 am
Barford's 25-footer was awesome.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: AirWarren on March 09, 2018, 08:35:07 am
Quote from: WPWells on March 09, 2018, 08:17:11 am
Barford's 25-footer was awesome.

Sure was. South Carolina has been a scrappy team all year.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: Redwolves8526 on March 09, 2018, 09:35:26 am
Why does their offense get so stagnet with towards the end of the game? Those big shots from Barford saved the Hogs. I thought they played a decent game, but goodness why all the iso towards the end of the shot clock with 5 mins left to go?
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: AirWarren on March 09, 2018, 10:14:49 am
Quote from: Redwolves8526 on March 09, 2018, 09:35:26 am
Why does their offense get so stagnet with towards the end of the game? Those big shots from Barford saved the Hogs. I thought they played a decent game, but goodness why all the iso towards the end of the shot clock with 5 mins left to go?

They get comfortable and complacent too early.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: sportsguy80 on March 09, 2018, 03:18:41 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on March 09, 2018, 10:14:49 am
They get comfortable and complacent too early.
One of the announcers made a good point about us standing around when Gafford is in the game. When we get more movement it frees up him or makes a one on one matchup. Hopefully we can play better since the first game is under our belt but Florida is gonna be another tough task.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: sportsguy80 on March 09, 2018, 11:15:11 pm
Another huge win. Next up the vols...
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bulldoghistorian on March 09, 2018, 11:32:23 pm
Quote from: sportsguy80 on March 09, 2018, 11:15:11 pm
Another huge win. Next up the vols...
First win over Florida since 2013! WPS!!!
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: BannerMountainMan on March 09, 2018, 11:59:38 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on March 05, 2018, 09:03:34 pm
Guys this is as good as we will ever be under Anderson.
how do you even know? Lol what a dummy
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on March 10, 2018, 08:19:36 am
Good to get that IF monkey of our back
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: WPWells on March 10, 2018, 08:47:20 am
Just bought tickets to today's game! Wooo Pig!
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on March 10, 2018, 10:25:49 am
Quote from: WPWells on March 10, 2018, 08:47:20 am
Just bought tickets to today's game! Wooo Pig!

Have fun!!!! ... I have every other weekend off and am not free today or I'd be headed up there. I can only hope we end up in Wichita or Dallas next week so I can go. Nashville would be nice for you next weekend if we go there.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on March 10, 2018, 10:27:10 am
Quote from: bdubyab60 on March 10, 2018, 08:19:36 am
Good to get that IF monkey of our back

Florida had definitely owned us. We finally stopped their penetration game and they looked lost without the drive and dish game for them. That was awesome to see us totally get a team out of sorts offensively like we did to Florida.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on March 10, 2018, 10:31:34 am
Quote from: BannerMountainMan on March 09, 2018, 11:59:38 pm
how do you even know? Lol what a dummy

I don't know why anybody would be all over MA at all like he is. It's so much harder in basketball than football to be a top 25 level program simply off numbers and dynamics of programs. It's easier for mid majors to be better in basketball year after year and there are 350 Division I basketball programs to about 130 in football. Hence, why I say top 25 in basketball means more than football. MA has had us there 3 of the last 4 years. I don't think people remember we had like half the team ineligible when he got here lol. And some selfish as crap players he dumped. MA has character too.... It'l be a sad day if he ever does fail cause there is so much to like about him.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: cuckoobird on March 10, 2018, 11:12:45 am
Quote from: BannerMountainMan on March 09, 2018, 11:59:38 pm
how do you even know? Lol what a dummy
I bet you wish they would have played all year like they did against Florida. That's the biggest sign of a good coach, consistency. It's been 7 years and we are still jekyl and hide. Most of you guys don't remember what it was like to be a winning program but I still do. Anderson is mediocre at best just like bert was.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bulldoghistorian on March 10, 2018, 02:09:57 pm
Quote from: beach bum on March 10, 2018, 10:27:10 am
Florida had definitely owned us. We finally stopped their penetration game and they looked lost without the drive and dish game for them. That was awesome to see us totally get a team out of sorts offensively like we did to Florida.
Hope we can do the same today against the Vols, and tomorrow against UK!!!
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bulldoghistorian on March 10, 2018, 03:07:09 pm
I'm afraid this one could get ugly! :( the Vols can't miss!
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: cuckoobird on March 10, 2018, 04:59:01 pm
Uh uhmmmmm
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on March 10, 2018, 08:06:25 pm
Got it took to us today.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: DerekOxford on March 10, 2018, 10:05:05 pm
6 seed. Give us Dallas or Wichita.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: sportsguy80 on March 11, 2018, 05:29:54 pm
Wow a 7 seed in Detroit while Florida gets a 6 seed at Dallas in the same bracket...
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on March 11, 2018, 06:09:33 pm
About where we all figured a 6 or a 7.

Go play and win no excuses.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: sportsguy80 on March 11, 2018, 06:23:24 pm
Quote from: bdubyab60 on March 11, 2018, 06:09:33 pm
About where we all figured a 6 or a 7.

Go play and win no excuses.
There's always an excuse whether we like or not. I just love how they just about made all the SEC teams travel the furthest. Last year's success ruffled some feathers I supposed.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on March 11, 2018, 07:21:44 pm
Quote from: sportsguy80 on March 11, 2018, 06:23:24 pm
There's always an excuse whether we like or not. I just love how they just about made all the SEC teams travel the furthest. Last year's success ruffled some feathers I supposed.
Like I said. Go play go win. No excuses. Dont wanna here about bad draws. Folks should be saying that about us.

People are actually liking that we lost yesterday. Helps us rest for the tourney, really. When does the tourney start. I'm sure if we had played and won today we would have plenty of rest and possibly a better seed.

Sweet 16 is  my minimum expectations.

Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on March 11, 2018, 08:40:43 pm
A lot of my friends are complaining and I have no idea why.... We are in BY FAR THE EASIEST REGION. Don't get me wrong the locations of the games are not ideal but look at the other regions. I am so glad we didn't draw some of the other 1-3 seeds in the other regions. If Gafford stays out of foul trouble we'll do just fine.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on March 11, 2018, 09:03:02 pm
WPWells are you going to Detroit? I know you have said your better half is from Michigan and thought maybe you would make a trip out of us landing in Detroit.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on March 11, 2018, 09:03:56 pm
If we can make it to the Final 4 by a miracle I will be buying tickets as a 30th birthday present to myself since it will be on my birthday.... Go Hogs  8)
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: sportsguy80 on March 11, 2018, 09:17:50 pm
I like our chances. We just have to stick to what got us here. I wanted to make a Dallas or Wichita trip but I'll take playing any day first than being able to attend.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: WPWells on March 11, 2018, 09:34:15 pm
Quote from: beach bum on March 11, 2018, 09:03:02 pm
WPWells are you going to Detroit? I know you have said your better half is from Michigan and thought maybe you would make a trip out of us landing in Detroit.

Probably not this time around. I think this weekend was enough basketball for her plus the whole time off thing.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on March 11, 2018, 09:46:02 pm
Quote from: WPWells on March 11, 2018, 09:34:15 pm
Probably not this time around. I think this weekend was enough basketball for her plus the whole time off thing.

I definitely understand... I'll have to get real clever with time off from work if I want to go see us play the coming weeks.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on March 11, 2018, 09:47:05 pm
Quote from: sportsguy80 on March 11, 2018, 09:17:50 pm
I like our chances. We just have to stick to what got us here. I wanted to make a Dallas or Wichita trip but I'll take playing any day first than being able to attend.

Whoever we lose to I don't want it to be because we didn't play well. If we lose I want to know they gave it all they had. I am sure these seniors want to deliver a sweet 16 at least.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bleudog on March 11, 2018, 10:11:23 pm
http://i.turner.ncaa.com/sites/default/files/external/printable-bracket/2018/bracket-ncaa.pdf
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: thebigman3 on March 13, 2018, 09:17:27 am
If Arkansas can get past Butler.. I think we can take down Purdue. Their almost known for getting beat early and I would love to be the team that did it.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: cuckoobird on March 13, 2018, 04:37:41 pm
They're?
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: Cabotfan on March 16, 2018, 12:48:21 pm
almost?
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: WPWells on March 16, 2018, 03:01:01 pm
Fought back from down 21-2 early. Now within 1. I love this fight!
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: sportsguy80 on March 16, 2018, 03:50:08 pm
Doesn't look good. Might be the first SEC team to go down...
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bulldoghistorian on March 16, 2018, 04:05:16 pm
Quote from: sportsguy80 on March 16, 2018, 03:50:08 pm
Doesn't look good. Might be the first SEC team to go down...
No it doesn't! Embarrassing if that happens, and especially if we're only one to lose in the 1st round!
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: sportsguy80 on March 16, 2018, 04:27:13 pm
Quote from: bulldoghistorian on March 16, 2018, 04:05:16 pm
No it doesn't! Embarrassing if that happens, and especially if we're only one to lose in the 1st round!
Yup. It's really hard to win when you start out down 21-2. Inconsistency has been our theme all year. We would have played a short handed Purdue team on Sunday. Oh well on to next year.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: AirWarren on March 16, 2018, 04:27:55 pm
Booo.

We ought to be shamed.


Gafford. Not ready. Period. He was a zero factor.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: cuckoobird on March 16, 2018, 04:30:53 pm
Sad thing is, this is the best we'll be under Anderson
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: Romeo on March 16, 2018, 04:54:36 pm
I think we've reached our ceiling as a program under MA. I don't think MA can take the program any further than what we have done the last two years.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: MT Legend on March 16, 2018, 05:12:19 pm
Coaches get to much of the blame when things don't go the way we believe they should.I thought Anderson did a good job of putting the kids in a good place to be successful.then they would not execute the plan.coaches coach and players execute what the coach calls in.cant blame Anderson for the players not executing.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on March 16, 2018, 05:32:52 pm
An absolute disappointment. I said anything less than a sweet 16 would be. It should have been expected. Once again inconsistent and unprepared to start a game.

Disappointing end to a mediocre season
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bigworm on March 16, 2018, 09:31:47 pm
I remember the early 90s. Lots and lots of fun. I remember from Nolan to Mike. Absolute torture. Im happy with what mike is doing and I still believe hes the best man for the job. I also believe he will make it back to a final 4 soon.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: sportsguy80 on March 16, 2018, 10:36:55 pm
Well looks like history was made today. Down goes not only a one seed but the overall one seed. A team that lost only 2 games the whole year. If anyone says they have a perfect bracket they're lying big time!
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bigworm on March 16, 2018, 11:07:02 pm
Yeah. Virginia should fire the coach.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: cuckoobird on March 17, 2018, 10:45:47 am
Coaches recruit those players that don't execute. It still leads back to MA
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: MT Legend on March 17, 2018, 11:20:51 am
Quote from: cuckoobird on March 17, 2018, 10:45:47 am
Coaches recruit those players that don't execute. It still leads back to MA
we don't have bad talent. I think MA is doing a great job bringing in talent.The most talented team doesn't always win the game.i point you in the direction of Virginia.🤷🏾‍♂️
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on March 17, 2018, 02:32:14 pm
First off. I don't give a squat about Virginia, that's them.

If you are happy with the results from this year fine.

But because some folks aren't and don't accept the average results from Heath until now folks get all defensive of MA.

Absolutely nothing wrong with expectations being higher for this program.

I'd be surprised if we are a anything other than a bubble or NIT team next year. 7 players being replaced doesn't usually bode well when none are elite players. Maybe we get lucky and there's a diamond in the rough.

7 years 3 tourney appearances, 2 wins and 0 SEC conference crowns regular season or ther wise. Ranked twice for less than a week basically.

A sweet 16 was my expectation once we made the tourney and we were absolutely unprepared for this game. And there was more than one game that it happened this year
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: MT Legend on March 17, 2018, 05:16:48 pm
Quote from: bdubyab60 on March 17, 2018, 02:32:14 pm
First off. I don't give a squat about Virginia, that's them.

If you are happy with the results from this year fine.

But because some folks aren't and don't accept the average results from Heath until now folks get all defensive of MA.

Absolutely nothing wrong with expectations being higher for this program.

I'd be surprised if we are a anything other than a bubble or NIT team next year. 7 players being replaced doesn't usually bode well when none are elite players. Maybe we get lucky and there's a diamond in the rough.

7 years 3 tourney appearances, 2 wins and 0 SEC conference crowns regular season or ther wise. Ranked twice for less than a week basically.

A sweet 16 was my expectation once we made the tourney and we were absolutely unprepared for this game. And there was more than one game that it happened this year
im happy with the job MA is doing.we was 1 of only 68 teams selected to play in this tournament. Lots of schools would love to have our place.we could have been in the NIT.things could be a lot worse then where we are as a program.🤷🏾‍♂️
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: sportsguy80 on March 17, 2018, 09:30:45 pm
Quote from: MT Legend on March 17, 2018, 05:16:48 pm
im happy with the job MA is doing.we was 1 of only 68 teams selected to play in this tournament. Lots of schools would love to have our place.we could have been in the NIT.things could be a lot worse then where we are as a program.🤷🏾‍♂️
Some people are just never satisfied regardless of what the outcomes are. If we would have made it to the sweet 16 or further there would have still been the complainers. It's sad when people think everything supposed to go their way just because.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: cuckoobird on March 17, 2018, 09:33:17 pm
And that kind of acceptance of mediocrity is why we won't ever be back on top. If the fans demanded excellence it would come
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: MT Legend on March 17, 2018, 09:45:00 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on March 17, 2018, 09:33:17 pm
And that kind of acceptance of mediocrity is why we won't ever be back on top. If the fans demanded excellence it would come
are you suggesting to fire MA?after he just took us to the tournament as a 7 seed? If I'm wrong about your intentions I apologize.if that is what you're insinuating then I'm confused.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: MT Legend on March 17, 2018, 09:46:56 pm
Quote from: sportsguy80 on March 17, 2018, 09:30:45 pm
Some people are just never satisfied regardless of what the outcomes are. If we would have made it to the sweet 16 or further there would have still been the complainers. It's sad when people think everything supposed to go their way just because.
i agree 100% shameful really.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on March 18, 2018, 08:42:14 am
Quote from: MT Legend on March 17, 2018, 05:16:48 pm
im happy with the job MA is doing.we was 1 of only 68 teams selected to play in this tournament. Lots of schools would love to have our place.we could have been in the NIT.things could be a lot worse then where we are as a program.🤷🏾‍♂️
And if you are happy with that fine. But despite what many think not NCAA coach is hired to just make the tourney. I'll tell you my expectations straight out. I'm tired of hearing it could be worse. These are realistic expectations because the program has been there before and the state produces enough talent to be there.

You are aiming low if you don't at least expect this from our program.

A consistent top 25 program in the rankings. Again twice we have been ranked under MA. Once at seasons end and this year for a week.

Win the SEC regular season crown. Most years we are out of this race after the first two weeks of Conference play.

Win the SEC tourney.

Win some notable games against blue blood programs.

I'm fine with getting up and down the floor. But there is also a fundamental part to this game. We need to have it to take that next step.

Recruit retention. We shouldn't be having to fill rosters with Jucos and transfers. We have 6 seniors, 7 if Thomas hadn't been booted, and only two of those are 4 year guys.

Deeper runs in the tourney. Doesn't have to be every year. What good does making the tourney every year help when we aren't a threat in it. There is a reason Butler was a favorite as a 10 seed over us as a 7.

MA wins games, runs a clean program and is supposedly a great guy. I want him or whoever the coach is at Arkansas to do the things above. This program has been there before and can be again.

You'll notice I didn't mention a NC. Because if you are building to the expectations above there's a greater chance that an NC can happen.

But if you are happy with 21-11(let's just say average total), middle of the pack conference record, just getting in the tourney at a 50% as a lower seed and getting bounced in the first or second round. Then good for you guys.

By the way our average margin of defeat was 15 points this year. Might wanna close that gap as well.

My expectations are higher. I'm tired of hearing, if we get the right draw, if so and so loses we move up in Conference and the ever popular wait til next year or wait til this recruit gets here.

If you set low goals to achieve you can only achieve low goals.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: MT Legend on March 18, 2018, 09:48:04 am
Quote from: bdubyab60 on March 18, 2018, 08:42:14 am
And if you are happy with that fine. But despite what many think not NCAA coach is hired to just make the tourney. I'll tell you my expectations straight out. I'm tired of hearing it could be worse. These are realistic expectations because the program has been there before and the state produces enough talent to be there.

You are aiming low if you don't at least expect this from our program.

A consistent top 25 program in the rankings. Again twice we have been ranked under MA. Once at seasons end and this year for a week.

Win the SEC regular season crown. Most years we are out of this race after the first two weeks of Conference play.

Win the SEC tourney.

Win some notable games against blue blood programs.

I'm fine with getting up and down the floor. But there is also a fundamental part to this game. We need to have it to take that next step.

Recruit retention. We shouldn't be having to fill rosters with Jucos and transfers. We have 6 seniors, 7 if Thomas hadn't been booted, and only two of those are 4 year guys.

Deeper runs in the tourney. Doesn't have to be every year. What good does making the tourney every year help when we aren't a threat in it. There is a reason Butler was a favorite as a 10 seed over us as a 7.

MA wins games, runs a clean program and is supposedly a great guy. I want him or whoever the coach is at Arkansas to do the things above. This program has been there before and can be again.

You'll notice I didn't mention a NC. Because if you are building to the expectations above there's a greater chance that an NC can happen.

But if you are happy with 21-11(let's just say average total), middle of the pack conference record, just getting in the tourney at a 50% as a lower seed and getting bounced in the first or second round. Then good for you guys.

By the way our average margin of defeat was 15 points this year. Might wanna close that gap as well.

My expectations are higher. I'm tired of hearing, if we get the right draw, if so and so loses we move up in Conference and the ever popular wait til next year or wait til this recruit gets here.

If you set low goals to achieve you can only achieve low goals.
i think what you just said here is every fans goals.its ok to dream big just don't dream to Big. and you want be so crushed when things don't go the way you Vision.look at buffalos roster. And Loyola's and umbc who wanted these players coming out of high school?

You set goals for your team and when those goals aren't met you come crashing down with them.

Everything you said I'm sure MA knows as well.he has been a winner everywhere he has been.he will find the answer to this and get us into position to play for a NC.

Winning in the NCAA tournament takes a special team that comes together as one.i still feel like we are missing a couple key parts.once we get those parts then the title run will come.

Trust the process.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on March 18, 2018, 11:26:54 am
Quote from: MT Legend on March 18, 2018, 09:48:04 am
i think what you just said here is every fans goals.its ok to dream big just don't dream to Big. and you want be so crushed when things don't go the way you Vision.look at buffalos roster. And Loyola's and umbc who wanted these players coming out of high school?

You set goals for your team and when those goals aren't met you come crashing down with them.

Everything you said I'm sure MA knows as well.he has been a winner everywhere he has been.he will find the answer to this and get us into position to play for a NC.

Winning in the NCAA tournament takes a special team that comes together as one.i still feel like we are missing a couple key parts.once we get those parts then the title run will come.

Trust the process.
The process should have some sort of timeline though. This is a results based job and the results are not where the should be period.

We are 7 years in to this. An ok class coming in but by what I can tell not a program changer player in the bunch. If Gafford leaves this won't even be a bubble team.

I feel this is the ceiling with MA. He refuses to adjust for the most part and when he does it's a little too late.

We will be at another 2 years in to this process before another tourney appearance more than likely. Unless one or two of these kids turn out to be studs.

So forgive me if I'm a little untrusting oh this process that has resulted in average results

Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: MT Legend on March 18, 2018, 01:56:26 pm
Quote from: bdubyab60 on March 18, 2018, 11:26:54 am
The process should have some sort of timeline though. This is a results based job and the results are not where the should be period.

We are 7 years in to this. An ok class coming in but by what I can tell not a program changer player in the bunch. If Gafford leaves this won't even be a bubble team.

I feel this is the ceiling with MA. He refuses to adjust for the most part and when he does it's a little too late.

We will be at another 2 years in to this process before another tourney appearance more than likely. Unless one or two of these kids turn out to be studs.

So forgive me if I'm a little untrusting oh this process that has resulted in average results
jim Calhoun started at uconn in 1986.he did not win his first title till 1999 these things take time man.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: Jacketman65 on March 18, 2018, 03:47:49 pm
MA just recently had his contract extended, did he not?  It appears that he is going to be here for a while.  I don't know how the U of A can afford to buy out yet another contract!
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: cuckoobird on March 18, 2018, 05:03:26 pm
Yes i was suggesting he needs to be let go. Yes his contract was just extended so it would be hard to do that with a buyout. We are as good as we will ever be right now under MA
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: MT Legend on March 18, 2018, 05:08:33 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on March 18, 2018, 05:03:26 pm
Yes i was suggesting he needs to be let go. Yes his contract was just extended so it would be hard to do that with a buyout. We are as good as we will ever be right now under MA
who you suggests we get? If of course the administration did indeed fire MA.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: cuckoobird on March 19, 2018, 06:56:24 am
Well we know he can't get it done so anyone else is worth the try
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on March 19, 2018, 10:07:26 am
Quote from: MT Legend on March 18, 2018, 01:56:26 pm
jim Calhoun started at uconn in 1986.he did not win his first title till 1999 these things take time man.
Yeah but he was winning conference titles and other meaningful games in that time period.

While MA is just winning, which is fine. But until this year the scheduling and the conference were pretty weak.

If he was anyone other than MA he would be gone by now.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on March 19, 2018, 09:08:42 pm
4 years in Calhoun was winning the Big East on the regular. Plus the Big East was one of the premier conferences in the NCAA.

Just 4 years in as well.

10× Big East regular season championships (1990, 1994–1996, 1998, 1999, 2002, 2003, 2005, 2006)

MA has a second place finish I believe but really had no chance that year of winning the crown after the first few weeks of conference play
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: DerekOxford on March 23, 2018, 10:37:39 pm
Quote from: bdubyab60 on March 19, 2018, 09:08:42 pm
4 years in Calhoun was winning the Big East on the regular. Plus the Big East was one of the premier conferences in the NCAA.

Just 4 years in as well.

10× Big East regular season championships (1990, 1994–1996, 1998, 1999, 2002, 2003, 2005, 2006)

MA has a second place finish I believe but really had no chance that year of winning the crown after the first few weeks of conference play

That was also a Kentucky team that was 38-0 until they lost to Wisconsin.

Hogs that year would've shared this year's league title with that 13-5 mark.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on March 24, 2018, 05:37:58 pm
Quote from: DerekOxford on March 23, 2018, 10:37:39 pm
That was also a Kentucky team that was 38-0 until they lost to Wisconsin.

Hogs that year would've shared this year's league title with that 13-5 mark.
Well that was then and this is now. It's past time to get it done
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bleudog on March 24, 2018, 06:01:16 pm
Think the Razorbacks could convert Sister Jean to the Baptist faith?
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on March 24, 2018, 06:10:36 pm
Quote from: bleudog on March 24, 2018, 06:01:16 pm
Think the Razorbacks could convert Sister Jean to the Baptist faith?

Yea I am starting to think they may an unstoppable force at Loyola. Incredible what they are still doing.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on March 24, 2018, 06:16:03 pm
If Gafford comes back I am actually very optimistic for next year. We are forgetting that Garland may be medically cleared too in the coming months and he was almost as highly ranked coming out of high school as Gafford. I think I remember Gafford being about the #30 recruit and Garland the #50 if my memory serves me correct in the nation. Adding Garland to a decent incoming freshmen class could be enough to keep us solidly in the NCAA tournament. I am not talking about being a top 15 team or anything, but another solid season. Also, Jalen Harris will likely be the starting PG after sitting last year after becoming the starter at New Mexico his freshman year there and transferring here. He probably is not going to be a game changer, but a vital guard for depth and ball handling. That is a huge if, banking on we have Garland and Gafford. Garland is a big athletic body for his position he plays and I could see us being a much more balanced offensive team and having a way better defense. I am talking way better, fundamental defense if we have those guys on campus next year. I could see us in that 6-10 seed range again next year if things piece together well. If one or both those guys aren't here, well its not going to pretty next year stating the obvious.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bleudog on March 24, 2018, 07:53:44 pm
Quote from: beach bum on March 24, 2018, 06:10:36 pm
Yea I am starting to think they may an unstoppable force at Loyola. Incredible what they are still doing.


They're on a mission from God.

https://twitter.com/marchmadness/status/977702017278889984
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: Trojanbird on March 24, 2018, 08:30:16 pm
Quote from: bleudog on March 24, 2018, 06:01:16 pm
Think the Razorbacks could convert Sister Jean to the Baptist faith?
Rather than convert Sister Jean  ::),A ridiculous statement at best!  We should convert our coach!
It's what playing disciplined will get you!
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bleudog on March 24, 2018, 08:41:09 pm
Quote from: Trojanbird on March 24, 2018, 08:30:16 pm
Rather than convert Sister Jean  ::),A ridiculous statement at best!  We should convert our coach!
It's what playing disciplined will get you!

Lighten up TB.  BB got it.  ::)

https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/977701604660056064

Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bleudog on March 25, 2018, 08:34:54 pm
Nice reference to Gafford in the EDNT:  CLICK HERE (http://digital.olivesoftware.com/Olive/ODN/ElDorado/shared/ShowArticle.aspx?doc=ELDNTIMES%2F2018%2F03%2F25&entity=Ar00100&sk=2BFF5DDB&mode=text)
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bleudog on March 26, 2018, 05:11:45 pm
http://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2018/mar/26/daniel-gafford-will-return-arkansas-sophomore-seas/
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on March 26, 2018, 05:35:08 pm
Quote from: bleudog on March 26, 2018, 05:11:45 pm
http://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2018/mar/26/daniel-gafford-will-return-arkansas-sophomore-seas/

Oh wow. Hogs fans must all rejoice with that news. As I stated above, if Garland can be medically cleared I see good things next year another NCAA tournament bid.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on March 27, 2018, 06:49:02 am
He does raise hopes some.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bleudog on April 04, 2018, 03:47:59 pm
https://www.seccountry.com/arkansas/mike-anderson-announces-arkansas-will-lose-two-key-players-to-transfer
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: WPWells on April 04, 2018, 04:22:59 pm
Quote from: bleudog on April 04, 2018, 03:47:59 pm
https://www.seccountry.com/arkansas/mike-anderson-announces-arkansas-will-lose-two-key-players-to-transfer

Sometimes it's okay to say what the article says instead of linking an article.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on April 04, 2018, 08:39:01 pm
Quote from: bleudog on April 04, 2018, 03:47:59 pm
https://www.seccountry.com/arkansas/mike-anderson-announces-arkansas-will-lose-two-key-players-to-transfer

I am not sure those guys were going to be starters next year, but that is a loss of depth and key role players. Hall probably would have started to begin the year for sure but maybe one of those incoming freshmen was going to take his spot. CJ Jones just is not athletic enough to log huge minutes. If he was not knocking down three's he really was not worth a lot that game. This does raise a few eye brows though for sure. Makes you wonder....
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on April 05, 2018, 09:31:03 pm
This is a concerning for a program that needs players to stay and develop. Possibly 8 new players for next year now
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on April 05, 2018, 10:19:48 pm
Quote from: bdubyab60 on April 05, 2018, 09:31:03 pm
This is a concerning for a program that needs players to stay and develop. Possibly 8 new players for next year now

I have seen highlights of all the incoming freshmen, but today I finally got to see highlights of Jalen Harris. He has handles almost like I have ever seen before. Sometimes he tries to get a little too flashy imo, but he is light years the PG Beard ever was. We're getting an immediate upgrade at the PG position we have not seen in a bit. If he can get in the lane I can see a lot of lobs to Gafford and Henderson from him. We might have some guards who actually throw the bigs the balls lol.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: Redwolves8526 on April 06, 2018, 08:15:51 am
Quote from: WPWells on April 04, 2018, 04:22:59 pm
Sometimes it's okay to say what the article says instead of linking an article.

Oh really?
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on April 06, 2018, 11:18:27 am
Quote from: beach bum on April 05, 2018, 10:19:48 pm
I have seen highlights of all the incoming freshmen, but today I finally got to see highlights of Jalen Harris. He has handles almost like I have ever seen before. Sometimes he tries to get a little too flashy imo, but he is light years the PG Beard ever was. We're getting an immediate upgrade at the PG position we have not seen in a bit. If he can get in the lane I can see a lot of lobs to Gafford and Henderson from him. We might have some guards who actually throw the bigs the balls lol.
Yeah but then two more of them transfer again next year. That's the MA average right now. If these were bench guys transferring not such a big issue. But these are projected staters leaving
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on April 06, 2018, 12:27:49 pm
Cj Jones was never going to be a starter at Arkansas..... I understand him leaving.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: AirWarren on April 06, 2018, 12:45:58 pm
I like Mike. But the burner has been set to high. Much like it was with coach B coming off the VTECH loss.

Of note. The two greatest hog basketball coaches have been coach Sutton and coach Richardson.

In 11 years, coach Sutton has 9 20+ win seasons. Those all included trips to the big dance. A final four and 2 sweet 16.

In 17 years, coach Richardson had 12 20+ win seasons. He had 13 trips to the NCAA tourney. 1 national title, 1 runner up, 2 sweet 16s, and 1 elite 8. A magical time. He also had SEVERAL 1st round losses. 5 to be exact.

Coach Anderson has been at Arkansas 7 years. He has had 4 20+ win seasons. 3 trips to the NCAA Tourney. 2 first round losses and and one second round loss. And an NIT loss.


Right now. The top three coaches in our basketball history include:
1. Nolan Richardson.
2. Eddie Sutton.
3. Mike Anderson.

The rest...not even worth bringing up. We have been playing basketball for 94 years folks. 3 worthy coaches in 94 years. Let that sink in folks. 35 years and three coaches have produced for us. Sure, let's go after that hot up and comer again....
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on April 06, 2018, 01:39:05 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on April 06, 2018, 12:45:58 pm
I like Mike. But the burner has been set to high. Much like it was with coach B coming off the VTECH loss.

Of note. The two greatest hog basketball coaches have been coach Sutton and coach Richardson.

In 11 years, coach Sutton has 9 20+ win seasons. Those all included trips to the big dance. A final four and 2 sweet 16.

In 17 years, coach Richardson had 12 20+ win seasons. He had 13 trips to the NCAA tourney. 1 national title, 1 runner up, 2 sweet 16s, and 1 elite 8. A magical time. He also had SEVERAL 1st round losses. 5 to be exact.

Coach Anderson has been at Arkansas 7 years. He has had 4 20+ win seasons. 3 trips to the NCAA Tourney. 2 first round losses and and one second round loss. And an NIT loss.


Right now. The top three coaches in our basketball history include:
1. Nolan Richardson.
2. Eddie Sutton.
3. Mike Anderson.

The rest...not even worth bringing up. We have been playing basketball for 94 years folks. 3 worthy coaches in 94 years. Let that sink in folks. 35 years and three coaches have produced for us. Sure, let's go after that hot up and comer again....

Good stuff and good breakdown for every one to see. I may be in the minority here, but I think MA deserves more respect than he gets. Our program was crap when he got here. I heard sports talk list the roster we had his first year here and it was almost laughable to call that an SEC team. MA has got us to the NCAA tourney 3 of the last 4 years and competitive again. When I say I am in the minority I mean that I think he has earned the right to miss the tournament from time to time as much as some Arkansas fans don't want to admit that. We may just do that next year in 2018-2019 and I won't be calling for him fired. He'll then have more pressure in 2019-2020 obviously and then frustration will be merited if it stretches multiple seasons. The guy is doing just fine for a place like Fayetteville. I think you see it the same way too. All I know is with the guys we have coming in with the 3 we have left over from last year we will be playing way better defense immediately. I loved Macon, Barford, Beard, Thompson, and others but they did not play defense like is needed to go deep in tournaments.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: AirWarren on April 06, 2018, 01:43:47 pm
In 94 years, we have had 13 coaches(glen rose twice and Dana Altman), and three have been worth a crap.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: AirWarren on April 06, 2018, 02:00:04 pm
But hey!! We can land the next hot up and comer like Eugene Lambert, lanny van eman, Stan Heath and ole Pel.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: cuckoobird on April 06, 2018, 03:19:00 pm
Francis Smhidt and glen rose were better than Anderson
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bleudog on April 06, 2018, 03:25:10 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on April 06, 2018, 03:19:00 pm
Francis Smhidt and glen rose were better than Anderson

But ol' Anderson probably makes as much in one year as all the coaches made for the first 40 or 50 years combined.  With great compensation come great responsibility/expectations.  ;D
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: AirWarren on April 06, 2018, 03:29:52 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on April 06, 2018, 03:19:00 pm
Francis Smhidt and glen rose were better than Anderson

Glen rose was 171-154 at Arkansas.

Mike is 151-86.

In the 7 years Schmidt was at Ark, there are conflicting records. One says 113-17 and one says 41-21-3. So who knows.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bleudog on April 06, 2018, 04:08:21 pm
 
Quote from: AirWarren on April 06, 2018, 03:29:52 pm
Glen rose was 171-154 at Arkansas.

Mike is 151-86.

In the 7 years Schmidt was at Ark, there are conflicting records. One says 113-17 and one says 41-21-3. So who knows.



Wiki (FWIW) has Rose at 325-204 at Arkansas with a Final Four appearance.

I'd give you a link but I don't want to trigger any snowflakes who might be reading this thread.  ;D
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on April 06, 2018, 05:03:07 pm
Quote from: beach bum on April 06, 2018, 12:27:49 pm
Cj Jones was never going to be a starter at Arkansas..... I understand him leaving.
He was going to get serious minutes as far as MAs system goes and Hall was for sure starting
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: cuckoobird on April 06, 2018, 08:46:45 pm
Not to mention those coaches only played a 20-25 game season and several records wit 1-4 losses
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: AirWarren on April 06, 2018, 09:05:12 pm
Quote from: bleudog on April 06, 2018, 04:08:21 pm

Wiki (FWIW) has Rose at 325-204 at Arkansas with a Final Four appearance.

I'd give you a link but I don't want to trigger any snowflakes who might be reading this thread.  ;D

That's why I trust Wiki like I trust the common media.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bleudog on April 06, 2018, 11:13:38 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on April 06, 2018, 09:05:12 pm
That's why I trust Wiki like I trust the common media.

Looks like Wiki was three losses off.

ArkansasRazorbacks.com has Rose at 325-201.

1965-66   Glen Rose    13        10
1964-65   Glen Rose      9        14
1963-64   Glen Rose      9        14
1962-63   Glen Rose    13        11
1961-62   Glen Rose    14        10
1960-61   Glen Rose    16         7
1959-60   Glen Rose    12        11
1958-59   Glen Rose      9        14
1957-58   Glen Rose    17        10
1956-57   Glen Rose    11        12
1955-56   Glen Rose    11        12
1954-55   Glen Rose    14          9
1953-54   Glen Rose    13          9
1952-53   Glen Rose    10        11
1941-42   Glen Rose    19          4
1940-41   Glen Rose    20          3
1939-40   Glen Rose    12        10
1938-39   Glen Rose    18          5
1937-38   Glen Rose    19          3
1936-37   Glen Rose    12          6
1935-36   Glen Rose    24          3
1934-35   Glen Rose    14          5
1933-34   Glen Rose    16          8
                         325        201
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on April 14, 2018, 06:11:08 pm
Added a JUCO guy today.... Looks like mainly a 3 point shooter.... Most likely to fill what CJ Jones would have been off the bench. Maybe this guy actually plays defense?
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: Ctucker on October 03, 2018, 03:39:49 pm
Why is it that coach Anderson does not recruit these Arkansas kids until Kansas or somebody else offers them!
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: HorseFeathers on October 03, 2018, 04:05:55 pm
It kinda feels like he thinks the same way some fans feel...that they should be coming to him begging to be Razorbacks...
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on October 03, 2018, 06:16:47 pm
I'm. It sure he's been late on many. But I'm not sure. He does have evey major recruit in Arkansas pretty much locked up through 2020, or seems that way.

He wasn't getting Monk or Allen, though he had to try. He did land Portis and Gafford. He will pretty much land very mid level guy there is in the state though.

But in recruiting I don't feel like we have any chance of landing a top 10 guy outside of Arkansas.


Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: MT Legend on October 18, 2018, 05:57:31 am
For a guy who doesn't get a lot of the top guys in the country.he sure does win a lot of games.🤔
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: AirWarren on October 18, 2018, 09:15:14 am
Quote from: MT Legend on October 18, 2018, 05:57:31 am
For a guy who doesn't get a lot of the top guys in the country.he sure does win a lot of games.🤔

151-86 at Arkansas.
361-184 as a head coach.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on October 18, 2018, 11:20:34 am
Picked 10th by the media at SEC days.... Gafford was picked preseason All First Team in the SEC. I predict we finish between 5th and 8th.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: WPWells on October 18, 2018, 11:23:20 am
Quote from: beach bum on October 18, 2018, 11:20:34 am
Picked 10th by the media at SEC days.... Gafford was picked preseason All First Team in the SEC. I predict we finish between 5th and 8th.

With the depth of the league, that would probably be good enough to dance this season.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on October 18, 2018, 12:19:44 pm
Quote from: WPWells on October 18, 2018, 11:23:20 am
With the depth of the league, that would probably be good enough to dance this season.

I think so too. If we get to 10-8 in the league with just a generally decent non conference(let's say 2 or 3 at most losses in the non conference).... Then we will get in. Maybe even 9-9 does the job hopefully? I loved Macon and Barford, but Macon just was not physically capable of being a good defender. Barford was a really good defender, but only when he wanted to. I think MA will have this team at a high level defensively that we haven't seen in a few years which can get us back to the dance I hope.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: PokeyRedskinStudentScout on October 18, 2018, 12:48:52 pm
I think that we have three freshmen who will be difference makers in the long run: Embery, Chaney, and Henderson all look like starters at some point or another and any of them could be like Gafford last year
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: AirWarren on October 18, 2018, 12:53:46 pm
Quote from: PokeyRedskinStudentScout on October 18, 2018, 12:48:52 pm
I think that we have three freshmen who will be difference makers in the long run: Embery, Chaney, and Henderson all look like starters at some point or another and any of them could be like Gafford last year

Wouldn't count out Desi.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: MT Legend on October 18, 2018, 01:18:02 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on October 18, 2018, 09:15:14 am
151-86 at Arkansas.
361-184 as a head coach.

thats not bad at all. He actually has to coach these players.i say if you give him all the players John calipari has had. he would have at least 4 rings.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: beach bum on October 18, 2018, 08:51:18 pm
So I saw today where the NBA and G League starting next year will have transitionary contracts of 125K for what they deem "elite players" coming from the high school game as a legit option for them to not play in college at all. Essentially this is to try and end the one and done player which this is obviously a good thing overall for every party involved. And in reality this will only impact about 5 to 15 guys a year who see themselves as a possible one and done or maybe a few guys here and there that see themselves as a two year at most player in college. At least they are getting paid something, and the NBA team isn't taking the biggest risk by giving an 18 year multi million not even knowing 100% if they will pan out. And now the college fan will be seeing most of their players for at least 2 years which is good for the fans and coaches too. I think this will level the playing field some as Kentucky, Duke, Kansas, and a couple others will have to rethink their recruiting and go back old school. They say by 2021 these will almost be like minor league baseball contracts from what I understand being on a G League team for one year, but under contract by the NBA team. I hope this pans out cause its good for all sides involved.
Title: Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
Post by: bdubyab60 on November 02, 2018, 10:00:55 am
Not sure it's gonna change much. Think I heard max contract $125k. The kid that started this investigation got $100k and wasn't even a one and done.

If you can make that kind of money and get the notariety of playing for a big college program or go to the G league and play to empty stands which are you going to do