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Title: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: BigGuy22 on March 15, 2018, 10:31:51 am
This is super early to be talking about it but whats everyone's stance on next years teams. What team is losing what players! I know Pea Ridge is returning 3 starters, and 3 kids that played significant minutes. I think Nick Coble, Mikey Mahoney, Carson Rhine, and Landon Allison could make a deep run next year. Especially with one of the best coaches in the 4A
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: Bbal789 on March 15, 2018, 01:01:46 pm
Mills
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: JessieP on March 15, 2018, 01:47:36 pm
Quote from: Bbal789 on March 15, 2018, 01:01:46 pm
Mills

Mills? Are you feeling ok? Should we call for help? Are you seeing bright spots or hearing loud noises? I was expecting your next year Top 5 to be:

1) Southside
2) Southside
3) The 7A, 6A, 5A and 4A All-Stars
4) Southside Jr High
5) Southside Cheerleaders
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: LRRandy on March 15, 2018, 01:50:41 pm
Quote from: JessieP on March 15, 2018, 01:47:36 pm
Mills? Are you feeling ok? Should we call for help? Are you seeing bright spots or hearing loud noises? I was expecting your next year Top 5 to be:

1) Southside
2) Southside
3) The 7A, 6A, 5A and 4A All-Stars
4) Southside Jr High
5) Southside Cheerleaders
wasn't the big guy a foreign exchange student that has to go back?
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: JessieP on March 15, 2018, 06:27:09 pm
Quote from: LRRandy on March 15, 2018, 06:21:32 pm
what is ICC?

Izard County Consolidated. It's a small school about 40 miles north of Batesville. A basketball powerhouse that has produced a surprising number of college players. They were state runner-ups this year and usually make the final 4.
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: LRRandy on March 15, 2018, 06:30:41 pm
Quote from: JessieP on March 15, 2018, 06:27:09 pm
Izard County Consolidated. It's a small school about 40 miles north of Batesville. A basketball powerhouse that has produced a surprising number of college players. They were state runner-ups this year and usually make the final 4.
is that a 2A school?
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: HorseFeathers on March 15, 2018, 07:38:18 pm
Quote from: LRRandy on March 15, 2018, 06:30:41 pm
is that a 2A school?

1a.... They'll return all 5 starters plus like top 3 off the bench... Caleb Faulkner and Justus Cooper should both be D2 maybe low low D1 prospects by their senior years..
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: JessieP on March 15, 2018, 08:26:11 pm
Quote from: HorseFeathers on March 15, 2018, 07:38:18 pm
1a.... They'll return all 5 starters plus like top 3 off the bench... Caleb Faulkner and Justus Cooper should both be D2 maybe low low D1 prospects by their senior years..

For a small school they are very impressive.
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: LRRandy on March 15, 2018, 08:49:36 pm
Quote from: HorseFeathers on March 15, 2018, 07:38:18 pm
1a.... They'll return all 5 starters plus like top 3 off the bench... Caleb Faulkner and Justus Cooper should both be D2 maybe low low D1 prospects by their senior years..
so a kid is going to leave a 4a final four team to play 1a basketball to chase a ring?
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: JessieP on March 15, 2018, 09:34:33 pm
Quote from: LRRandy on March 15, 2018, 08:49:36 pm
so a kid is going to leave a 4a final four team to play 1a basketball to chase a ring?

It's more than that. ICC has a very respected basketball program. He'll get more coaching and visibility at ICC. In basketball going from 4A to 5A, slight difference. Going from 5A to 6A, bigger difference. 6A to 7A, big difference. Going from 4A to 7A, massive difference. Not saying the great 4A players wouldn't be great at 7A it's just the overall rosters and athletes are better. Much better teams. Going in reverse, from 4A to 1A isn't that wide a gully. Small schools are more closely matched in basketball. The coaching matters much more. It's simple math, if you have 2,000 to draw from you'll get more athletes. If you have 200 to draw from you'd better have great coaching.
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: bballfan1 on March 16, 2018, 08:55:43 am
Quote from: JessieP on March 15, 2018, 02:02:58 pm
Mind you this is hearsay, although Batesville is a small town, but from people that know SS. They say he will age out (19) early next year. They also say Brogdon will transfer to ICC, a smart move for both him and ICC. He will be able to flourish under that coach and ICC will be a clear favorite to win state. Now this is not hearsay, I was told this in person by a coach at a small Central Arkansas College. He would love to have the big guy but he can't touch him because of his failing grades. It has nothing to do with the kid himself, it's a language issue. How SS kept him eligible would be a mystery anywhere else but SS. I guess SS offers ESL courses in Slavic for Batesville's massive Eastern European population.
Your obvious hatred toward SS is evident.  It is on EVERY obsessed post you make about this program and the kids in it.  I'm not sure how this site can allow such a classless statement like this one.  You must live a pretty boring life and don't have a woman around if you spend this much time on this website.  You are poking at a GREAT kid that you obviously know NOTHING about.
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: TTownfan on March 16, 2018, 03:55:33 pm
Quote from: JessieP on March 15, 2018, 09:34:33 pm
It's more than that. ICC has a very respected basketball program. He'll get more coaching and visibility at ICC. In basketball going from 4A to 5A, slight difference. Going from 5A to 6A, bigger difference. 6A to 7A, big difference. Going from 4A to 7A, massive difference. Not saying the great 4A players wouldn't be great at 7A it's just the overall rosters and athletes are better. Much better teams. Going in reverse, from 4A to 1A isn't that wide a gully. Small schools are more closely matched in basketball. The coaching matters much more. It's simple math, if you have 2,000 to draw from you'll get more athletes. If you have 200 to draw from you'd better have great coaching.

I was with you right up until you posted "It's more than that."  It's all about chasing a ring. Big Daddy would sacrifice a body part if it meant a ring for Jr.
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: JessieP on March 16, 2018, 04:20:36 pm
Quote from: Outoftownfan on March 16, 2018, 03:55:33 pm
I was with you right up until you posted "It's more than that."  It's all about chasing a ring. Big Daddy would sacrifice a body part if it meant a ring for Jr.

If he is going to ICC they will be a runaway favorite to win a title. He is being wasted at SS. There is no question he can play but he isn't allowed to flourish where he is. Did you see the video of the last 30 seconds of the game vs. Westside? You're fighting for your life, a trip to the finals are right there. That defense let Felts run around like he was Usain Bolt. I'm surprised the SS players didn't smack him on the behind as he ran unaccosted to the hoop for the game winning LAYUP! You lose on a three pointer, You lose on a half court prayer. Heck, you even lose at the line because you were guarding the hoop. You don't lose on an easy layup. I can't see BP, Westside or ICC losing that way.
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: TTownfan on March 16, 2018, 05:27:30 pm
Quote from: JessieP on March 16, 2018, 04:20:36 pm
If he is going to ICC they will be a runaway favorite to win a title. He is being wasted at SS. There is no question he can play but he isn't allowed to flourish where he is. Did you see the video of the last 30 seconds of the game vs. Westside? You're fighting for your life, a trip to the finals are right there. That defense let Felts run around like he was Usain Bolt. I'm surprised the SS players didn't smack him on the behind as he ran unaccosted to the hoop for the game winning LAYUP! You lose on a three pointer, You lose on a half court prayer. Heck, you even lose at the line because you were guarding the hoop. You don't lose on an easy layup. I can't see BP, Westside or ICC losing that way.

I saw the video. It was Brogdon that Felts blew by for the game winning layup. Specifically, how is he not allowed to flourish?  Bottom line is he's a good player but not a great one. He can't come close to leading SS to a championship without the big guy. He will be a good compliment to Cooper and Faulkner and should finally get his ring. Not the way I'd like to see it done but to some the end justifies the means.
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: JessieP on March 16, 2018, 06:06:32 pm
Quote from: Outoftownfan on March 16, 2018, 05:27:30 pm
I saw the video. It was Brogdon that Felts blew by for the game winning layup. Specifically, how is he not allowed to flourish?  Bottom line is he's a good player but not a great one. He can't come close to leading SS to a championship without the big guy. He will be a good compliment to Cooper and Faulkner and should finally get his ring. Not the way I'd like to see it done but to some the end justifies the means.

In my opinion it's a coaching issue. If SS walks the ball up the court and feeds it to the 2 big men they counter Felts dominating game. They chose to jack up 3's most of the game. The way felts was playing you tell the team "make him beat us from outside 15 feet". When he starts to drive foul him outside. If he hits 2 free throws you have a few seconds to tie or win it. You don't let the guy who had owned you all game have the ball and a chance to end the game. You foul the worst FT shooting player on the court with 20 seconds, it's high pressure time with High School kids. Odds are he misses one. You feed Brogdon down low, high chance he scores and maybe gets a "and 1". You never ever ever put the ball in the hands of a player like felts tied with 20 seconds. They hadn't stopped him all game, why would they then? And I feel that on the right team with the right system Brogdon is a scholarship player.
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: STUNNA on March 17, 2018, 08:27:34 am
Not sure if they are good enough to win it. But I believe Warren returns all 5 starters.
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: JessieP on March 17, 2018, 09:50:26 am
Quote from: bballfan1 on March 16, 2018, 08:55:43 am
Your obvious hatred toward SS is evident.  It is on EVERY obsessed post you make about this program and the kids in it.  I'm not sure how this site can allow such a classless statement like this one.  You must live a pretty boring life and don't have a woman around if you spend this much time on this website.  You are poking at a GREAT kid that you obviously know NOTHING about.

Poking? By saying there is a language issue that's poking? Not much in the thinking area going on for you is there? I saw where you once commented that Bald Knob lost, you were LYBO. Oh mercy me! Run for the hills Ma Barker, he's hurling vicious mean insults at the kids. How can this site allow such cruelty? Simpleton.
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: Sigmund Sauer on March 18, 2018, 11:00:30 pm
Quote from: JessieP on March 17, 2018, 09:50:26 am
Poking? By saying there is a language issue that's poking? Not much in the thinking area going on for you is there? I saw where you once commented that Bald Knob lost, you were LYBO. Oh mercy me! Run for the hills Ma Barker, he's hurling vicious mean insults at the kids. How can this site allow such cruelty? Simpleton.
There are a few drama queens here.
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: Gray lizard on March 22, 2018, 02:59:48 pm
I think Pottsville will field a good team next year.  They return three of their bigger boys and could have a couple contributors move up from last years Jr high team.  Still a long ways off.
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: Baller91 on March 28, 2018, 09:07:59 pm
Quote from: BigGuy22 on March 28, 2018, 01:22:23 pm
This is a basketball thread. I don't think Pea Ridge plays Harrison in Basketball this year
Harrison moves into the 4A-1 next season
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: Googlymoogly on March 29, 2018, 03:19:16 pm
Quote from: Baller91 on March 28, 2018, 09:07:59 pm
Harrison moves into the 4A-1 next season
Yeah this is what a lot of people are forgetting. Harrison and LR Mills will be in 4A next season.
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: BigGuy22 on April 30, 2018, 12:59:52 pm
Pea Ridge will easily win the State title next year. So much skill is returning and they have a great coach to bring them all the way to the Championship
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: godeep on April 30, 2018, 01:47:10 pm
Forrest City drops down also. Rebuilt squad after winning two titles in three years.     
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: Informant on April 30, 2018, 02:46:03 pm
Quote from: BigGuy22 on April 30, 2018, 12:59:52 pm
Pea Ridge will easily win the State title next year. So much skill is returning and they have a great coach to bring them all the way to the Championship

Pea Ridge... Umm easily? Not saying they won't... but they won't. Mills will be 4A next season. Westside returns all but 2 players.  Batesville Southside (as of today) returns most everyone. Little Rock McClellan will also be there. Star City now has Johnny Taylor and returns several pieces. Warren will have a solid team. Did I mention Mills would be 4A also? The East region will be brutal.  Mill wills win that also. 
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: BigGuy22 on May 02, 2018, 12:08:56 pm
And the players that aren't returning from Southside and Westside are some of the most significant players on those teams. Warren will be pretty good, I don't see what all the hype is with Mills tho
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: HowYouDoin? on May 02, 2018, 12:33:27 pm
Mills was just one of the best teams in State overall this year and they are dropping down a classification. You're right though, no big deal at all...
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: BigGuy22 on May 03, 2018, 08:34:37 am
Several off the better schools in the 4A, Westside, Baptist, Southside, Pea Ridge, Pottsville, as long as others could compete for the 5A state title. There isn't a huge skill gap between the 4A and 5A
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: NWA Hawg on May 03, 2018, 08:44:09 am
Quote from: BigGuy22 on May 03, 2018, 08:34:37 am
Several off the better schools in the 4A, Westside, Baptist, Southside, Pea Ridge, Pottsville, as long as others could compete for the 5A state title. There isn't a huge skill gap between the 4A and 5A

I'll give you baptist but i don't see the others competing with mills and parkview.
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: Informant on May 03, 2018, 10:21:10 am
Westside is losing 2.  The older Felkins and the big kid.  Avery Felts is a division 1 athlete and Riley Felkins is right there with him.  They'll be in the mix for sure.  Brogdon from SS is going to Pulaski Academy and the Patterson kid is going to Harding Academy.  Southside will not factor into the 4A.

With all that said, Little Rock Mills will dominate everyone in 4A.
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: Livewire on May 06, 2018, 09:20:14 am
I've been hearing all year that Brogdan was going to ICC. Now Pulaski Academy? What gives?
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: beach bum on May 06, 2018, 09:24:50 pm
Quote from: BigGuy22 on May 03, 2018, 08:34:37 am
Several off the better schools in the 4A, Westside, Baptist, Southside, Pea Ridge, Pottsville, as long as others could compete for the 5A state title. There isn't a huge skill gap between the 4A and 5A

5A has way better athleticism and physicality though which shows up on the defensive side of the ball especially which leads to a lot more turnovers created. It also shows up in a team's ability to get more easy baskets in the paint either in the post or on the drive finishing at the basket on offense ... I actually think 4A to 5A is where we see the largest jump from one classification to the next in the athletes and physical play. You're completely undermining that part of the game. I got by as a pretty decent player in 4A at 5'11" and 145 lbs, but would have been eaten alive by the really good defensive teams if we played 5A then with my lack of physicality. Baptist was the only team in 4A last season who would have competed well at all in the 5A state tournament last year.
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: JessieP on May 06, 2018, 10:17:38 pm
Quote from: BigGuy22 on May 03, 2018, 08:34:37 am
Several off the better schools in the 4A, Westside, Baptist, Southside, Pea Ridge, Pottsville, as long as others could compete for the 5A state title. There isn't a huge skill gap between the 4A and 5A

What ? Is this one of those internet hoaxes ? The general consensus is that the biggest jump in quality of players is from 4A to 5A. True, the top 2 or 3 4A teams would be competitive but they would be hard pressed to survive the rigors of a week in/week out 5A schedule. 
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: Razorhummer on May 07, 2018, 03:40:35 am
Southside will be losing 2 starters. Patterson and Brogdon are heading to Pulaski Academy. I hate to see them 2 go and wish them the best of luck. Southside will still be good since they had some 10th graders that stepped up last season and also got several freshmen talent playing next season.
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: scrapdig on May 09, 2018, 02:27:20 pm
Quote from: BigGuy22 on April 30, 2018, 12:59:52 pm
Pea Ridge will easily win the State title next year. So much skill is returning and they have a great coach to bring them all the way to the Championship
LOL ok do you actually think they could beat Mills or Baptist?  Mills would mercy rule them. 
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: pridgehog on May 29, 2018, 08:53:20 am
Quote from: BigGuy22 on April 30, 2018, 12:59:52 pm
Pea Ridge will easily win the State title next year. So much skill is returning and they have a great coach to bring them all the way to the Championship
Pea Ridge has some really good core players coming back. I think we will be really good once again. Next years Senior Class will have been a part of more winning than any other Pea Ridge Class.
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: BigLion10 on May 31, 2018, 09:22:42 pm
Anybody mentioned other than Mills or BP is ridiculous
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: Eagle20 on May 31, 2018, 11:08:17 pm
Quote from: BigLion10 on May 31, 2018, 09:22:42 pm
Anybody mentioned other than Mills or BP is ridiculous
BP IS 3A
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: Big Prof.91 on June 11, 2018, 12:33:46 pm
Not only is BP going to be 3a, the coach left and took the LR Central job.
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: RamblinRazorWreck on June 13, 2018, 11:54:07 am
Quote from: Big Prof.91 on June 11, 2018, 12:33:46 pm
Not only is BP going to be 3a, the coach left and took the LR Central job.

Coach Ross left with 3 State Championships.  Coach Miller (who Coached Coach Ross) has moved back into his old spot (from AD) and also has 3 State Championships (and his name on the court).  BP will not be as big this year or as experienced, but they will still be very, very tough.  3 of their top 6 players from last season are back and they have several really good shooters coming up from JV & JR High.  The big question mark will be the defense.  They were one of the best defensive teams in the State (at any Classification) the last 3 years.
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: Informant on June 13, 2018, 12:04:11 pm
Quote from: RamblinRazorWreck on June 13, 2018, 11:54:07 am
Coach Ross left with 3 State Championships.  Coach Miller (who Coached Coach Ross) has moved back into his old spot (from AD) and also has 3 State Championships (and his name on the court).  BP will not be as big this year or as experienced, but they will still be very, very tough.  3 of their top 6 players from last season are back and they have several really good shooters coming up from JV & JR High.  They big question mark will be the defense.  They were one of the best defensive teams in the State (at any Classification) the last 3 years.

I assume they still have McBride...

He was the best player in 4A this past season... now he's the best player in 3A.  Expect BP to be there at the end. 
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: RamblinRazorWreck on June 13, 2018, 12:28:27 pm
Quote from: Informant on June 13, 2018, 12:04:11 pm
I assume they still have McBride...

He was the best player in 4A this past season... now he's the best player in 3A.  Expect BP to be there at the end.


Issac has been practicing with the team when he is not out of town with the JJ Hawks.
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: Informant on June 13, 2018, 03:04:59 pm
Quote from: RamblinRazorWreck on June 13, 2018, 12:28:27 pm

Issac has been practicing with the team when he is not out of town with the JJ Hawks.

So I would assume he'll be with them this year...

He might be the best player state wide.  Does anyone know who is?
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: FromTheBench on June 13, 2018, 10:37:16 pm
I would have to say Moody from NLR

Quote from: Informant on June 13, 2018, 03:04:59 pm
So I would assume he'll be with them this year...

He might be the best player state wide.  Does anyone know who is?
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: Charlie1001 on July 04, 2018, 04:07:52 pm
Quote from: pridgehog on May 29, 2018, 08:53:20 am
Pea Ridge has some really good core players coming back. I think we will be really good once again. Next years Senior Class will have been a part of more winning than any other Pea Ridge Class.
I was in Springdale watching a family friend play this past weekend and watched some of the Pea Ridge guys playing together.  There wasn't but 3 or 4 that I remember playing last year but I know the PG and Mahoney weren't there for sure.  They had their 2 junior bigs there that are supposed to make an impact this year and the Allison kid scored about 40 in one game. Coble was hitting 3's from 12' behind the arc and dunked in traffic a few times. I will say they all looked lost outside of Loyd's system and playing on a team with other kids.  I don't see them winning it all but they have as much or more talent than they did two years ago.
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: wait4it on August 12, 2018, 11:00:42 am
What about any team in the southern part of the state making a run for a title?
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: Neckred on August 13, 2018, 09:23:57 am
Quote from: beach bum on May 06, 2018, 09:24:50 pm
5A has way better athleticism and physicality though which shows up on the defensive side of the ball especially which leads to a lot more turnovers created. It also shows up in a team's ability to get more easy baskets in the paint either in the post or on the drive finishing at the basket on offense ... I actually think 4A to 5A is where we see the largest jump from one classification to the next in the athletes and physical play. You're completely undermining that part of the game. I got by as a pretty decent player in 4A at 5'11" and 145 lbs, but would have been eaten alive by the really good defensive teams if we played 5A then with my lack of physicality. Baptist was the only team in 4A last season who would have competed well at all in the 5A state tournament last year.
Very true
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: Neckred on August 13, 2018, 09:25:15 am
Quote from: Charlie1001 on July 04, 2018, 04:07:52 pm
I was in Springdale watching a family friend play this past weekend and watched some of the Pea Ridge guys playing together.  There wasn't but 3 or 4 that I remember playing last year but I know the PG and Mahoney weren't there for sure.  They had their 2 junior bigs there that are supposed to make an impact this year and the Allison kid scored about 40 in one game. Coble was hitting 3's from 12' behind the arc and dunked in traffic a few times. I will say they all looked lost outside of Loyd's system and playing on a team with other kids.  I don't see them winning it all but they have as much or more talent than they did two years ago.
Loyd?  Is he the one who calls a play every time down the court?
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: pridgehog on August 13, 2018, 12:45:16 pm
Quote from: Neckred on August 13, 2018, 09:25:15 am
Loyd?  Is he the one who calls a play every time down the court?
He's the one who took his team to the State Finals two years ago and back to the quarter Finals last year.
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: Neckred on August 13, 2018, 01:57:49 pm
Quote from: pridgehog on August 13, 2018, 12:45:16 pm
He's the one who took his team to the State Finals two years ago and back to the quarter Finals last year.
And was one point away from getting bounced in the first round?  Gonna need some more miracle transfers from Farmington to get back to the finals??
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: springdalesmitty on August 14, 2018, 09:43:20 am
Quote from: Neckred on August 13, 2018, 01:57:49 pm
And was one point away from getting bounced in the first round?  Gonna need some more miracle transfers from Farmington to get back to the finals??
I went to the Regional and that Pea Ridge team was legit. They lost their All State Post Player in the First round of Regional's and still went all the way to the finals of State and gave Baptist Prep all they wanted.  As a matter of fact, they also had one of their best players who didn't play half the year and tore his ACL the summer before. Not sure how anyone could throw shade at that group of kids.
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: Informant on August 14, 2018, 10:33:48 am
No doubt several teams have the talent to be State Runner ups....

Assuming since Mills is now 4A, we are talking about who will lose to them in the finals correct?
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: Neckred on August 14, 2018, 11:05:19 am
Quote from: Informant on August 14, 2018, 10:33:48 am
No doubt several teams have the talent to be State Runner ups....

Assuming since Mills is now 4A, we are talking about who will lose to them in the finals correct?
Correct.  They will mercy rule any 4a team
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: wait4it on August 14, 2018, 04:03:18 pm
I have a suspicion that there will be a team or two to give Mills a run and maybe an upset.
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: Informant on August 15, 2018, 10:57:44 am
Quote from: wait4it on August 14, 2018, 04:03:18 pm
I have a suspicion that there will be a team or two to give Mills a run and maybe an upset.


I think you're right.  Jonesboro, West Memphis, Parkview should all give them some a good run. 


Yes, I know!
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: wait4it on August 15, 2018, 06:55:10 pm
Quote from: Informant on August 15, 2018, 10:57:44 am

I think you're right.  Jonesboro, West Memphis, Parkview should all give them some a good run. 


Yes, I know!

That is all probably correct but Mills is 4A and Jonesboro, West Memphis, and Parkview are 5A.
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: NWA Hawg on August 16, 2018, 09:57:00 am
Quote from: wait4it on August 15, 2018, 06:55:10 pm
That is all probably correct but Mills is 4A and Jonesboro, West Memphis, and Parkview are 5A.

YES HE KNOWS!
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: wait4it on August 30, 2018, 09:35:30 am
I think Mills will be in the finals but not sure who will face them.  Can Mills be beat in the finals?
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: Bbal789 on October 21, 2018, 09:07:22 pm
Quote from: wait4it on August 30, 2018, 09:35:30 am
I think Mills will be in the finals but not sure who will face them.  Can Mills be beat in the finals?

No Mills is winning it all easy
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: wait4it on October 23, 2018, 11:50:38 am
I feel that there will be someone to challenge Mills....not for sure who...but somebody.
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: FoxandHound34 on October 23, 2018, 01:01:35 pm
You folks are crazy to think anyone will challenge Mills this year. Dumas and Baptist would be the only teams and they moved down to 3A so that eliminates them
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: scrapdig on October 23, 2018, 01:30:34 pm
Is Harrison pretty good?
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: wait4it on October 24, 2018, 11:44:45 am
I suppose time will be the determining factor in all things.  There are some pretty good teams that moved down to 4A.  Watch out.....
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: beach bum on October 24, 2018, 02:32:48 pm
Quote from: scrapdig on October 23, 2018, 01:30:34 pm
Is Harrison pretty good?


Yes
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: MoTownDog on October 24, 2018, 03:43:42 pm
Quote from: BigGuy22 on May 03, 2018, 08:34:37 am
Several off the better schools in the 4A, Westside, Baptist, Southside, Pea Ridge, Pottsville, as long as others could compete for the 5A state title. There isn't a huge skill gap between the 4A and 5A
Played in both.  Yes there is.  Harrison will beat Pea Ridge by 20.  Learn from your football team this year.
Venture out of your 4A circle up here and get you some of Mills.  Over at Half.
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: Cajun Hog on October 24, 2018, 06:42:50 pm
Quote from: scrapdig on October 23, 2018, 01:30:34 pm
Is Harrison pretty good?

The Goblins are dang good and won't be beat in conference this year.  Those 5A teams that moved down will be a lot more physical then most of the 4A teams. 
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: Gray lizard on October 25, 2018, 08:57:54 am
What can be expected from Morriliton this year?
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: wait4it on October 26, 2018, 10:12:17 am
I think Morrillton has a chance to make some noise in their conference and even into the state tournament.  Should win their conference but may lose to Mills in the regional. 
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: Gray lizard on October 26, 2018, 11:07:46 am
Quote from: wait4it on October 26, 2018, 10:12:17 am
I think Morrillton has a chance to make some noise in their conference and even into the state tournament.  Should win their conference but may lose to Mills in the regional.
Mills and Morrilton will not meet in region. Morriiton in the North and Mills in the East.
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: wait4it on October 29, 2018, 09:34:52 am
my mistake....I looked at it wrong.  Thanks for the correction.  I still feel the same about both schools however.
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: LeftyWorld on October 29, 2018, 10:08:18 am
So morrilton and harrison will meet in region?
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: wait4it on October 29, 2018, 10:48:11 am
Looks as though they will.  probably in the finals if I had to guess.

What about the east region....Mills first, then who?
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: scrapdig on October 29, 2018, 12:14:21 pm
Will Morrilton boys be moving their stud 9th grader up to HS?
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: wait4it on November 01, 2018, 10:51:08 am
Quote from: scrapdig on October 29, 2018, 12:14:21 pm
Will Morrilton boys be moving their stud 9th grader up to HS?
If he is good enough to play up then i think Coach Zachery will move him up....wait and see.
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: South 45 on November 01, 2018, 11:20:50 am
Quote from: scrapdig on October 29, 2018, 12:14:21 pm
Will Morrilton boys be moving their stud 9th grader up to HS?
Will be interesting to see who he dresses out with for the Maroon & Gray game tonight...
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: scrapdig on November 01, 2018, 11:37:13 am
Quote from: South 45 on November 01, 2018, 11:20:50 am
Will be interesting to see who he dresses out with for the Maroon & Gray game tonight...
Did he?  I would assume he's good enough to play in HS from what I've seen.
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: South 45 on November 01, 2018, 07:07:11 pm
Quote from: scrapdig on November 01, 2018, 11:37:13 am
Did he?  I would assume he's good enough to play in HS from what I've seen.
Yes he dressed out with the high school .
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: scrapdig on November 02, 2018, 08:38:42 am
How did he look?  Very talented for 9th grader.  Looks full grown though
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: wait4it on November 02, 2018, 09:16:59 am
So do you think Morrillton will bid to host the state tournament?
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: South 45 on November 02, 2018, 09:26:47 am
Quote from: scrapdig on November 02, 2018, 08:38:42 am
How did he look?  Very talented for 9th grader.  Looks full grown though
He is a baller...was raised on the court. Has the height could use a little weight, makes good decisions and has as natural a shot as you will find. I have seen him let frustration get the better of him but a little more experience and that will correct its self. Once he finds his stroke he can flat drop some points...Fun to watch!!!
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: South 45 on November 02, 2018, 09:38:09 am
Quote from: wait4it on November 02, 2018, 09:16:59 am
So do you think Morrillton will bid to host the state tournament?
Yes, absolutely will....The 2A tournament Wonderview hosted @ Morrilton last year was big success. Thoroughly enjoyed by the staff, community and visitors. Was standing next to an administrator the night of the finals, watching the place fill up...he just smiled and said "This is what we built it for". I have no doubt we will bid. 
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: wait4it on November 02, 2018, 09:42:26 am
any feelings on who else might bid?  Harrison? Farmington?  Any east or southeast school?
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: South 45 on November 02, 2018, 05:15:16 pm
Quote from: wait4it on November 02, 2018, 09:42:26 am
any feelings on who else might bid?  Harrison? Farmington?  Any east or southeast school?
Hard to say but rest assured someone else will... 
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: DQLeopard on November 04, 2018, 04:27:02 pm
Quote from: wait4it on November 02, 2018, 09:42:26 am
any feelings on who else might bid?  Harrison? Farmington?  Any east or southeast school?
Left out southwest.  Hopefully DeQueen will.
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: wait4it on November 05, 2018, 08:57:52 am
can De Queens gym seat enough people?
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: DQLeopard on November 05, 2018, 09:17:14 am
Quote from: wait4it on November 05, 2018, 08:57:52 am
can De Queens gym seat enough people?
I believe it can for 4a state but not 5a
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: wait4it on November 05, 2018, 09:36:20 am
not saying that DQ won't bid on it but they must be able to seat 1800 for a state tournament.
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: wait4it on November 24, 2018, 11:09:08 am
Mills seems to be off to a slow start....
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: Bbal789 on November 25, 2018, 12:54:13 pm
Quote from: wait4it on November 24, 2018, 11:09:08 am
Mills seems to be off to a slow start....

Mills is off to a slow start. Struggling a bit against the top tier teams in the state. Did pull out a nine point victory over another 4a state contender in ESTEM.
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: wait4it on November 25, 2018, 03:17:51 pm
Quote from: Bbal789 on November 25, 2018, 12:54:13 pm
Mills is off to a slow start. Struggling a bit against the top tier teams in the state. Did pull out a nine point victory over another 4a state contender in ESTEM.
saw that score. Maybe Mills is getting things going.
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: Hawk4L on November 25, 2018, 10:18:40 pm
Estem, Joe t robinson are playing in the battle at the ridge tournament in December. Should be good tournament
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: Bbal789 on November 27, 2018, 07:26:32 pm
ESTEM and Mills both return a lot of talent this year. Madison Peaster is the best player in 4a and Kevin Cross is probably the second best with Branton Mccrary in the top 5. ESTEM's best players are Jacob Profit and Jacob Saunders who are both top players in 4a as well.
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: Bbal789 on November 27, 2018, 07:26:55 pm
I dont know too much about Robinson this year.
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: wait4it on November 28, 2018, 07:02:54 am
Just for information only. How does one know who the best player is unless they have seen all players in a class or conference?  There are other good players who are arguably a contender for the "best" in a conference or class.
And it takes more than one "best" if a team has 2-3 good players.
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: Bbal789 on November 28, 2018, 09:13:12 pm
Quote from: wait4it on November 28, 2018, 07:02:54 am
Just for information only. How does one know who the best player is unless they have seen all players in a class or conference?  There are other good players who are arguably a contender for the "best" in a conference or class.
And it takes more than one "best" if a team has 2-3 good players.

True I understand your point but those guys at Mills have been highly recruited prospects and I havent heard about other players yet
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: wait4it on November 29, 2018, 09:44:03 am
I think that the overwhelming consensus is that Mills will be in the finals of the state tournament...who will be the other team?
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: Woopig6 on December 02, 2018, 08:15:17 am
I've heard and seen that Mills will be very good this year but I saw they started 1-3. I know nothing about the teams they've played so far but is this a sign for concern?
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: 87DAWG on December 02, 2018, 11:54:43 pm
Quote from: Woopig6 on December 02, 2018, 08:15:17 am
I've heard and seen that Mills will be very good this year but I saw they started 1-3. I know nothing about the teams they've played so far but is this a sign for concern?
If so, Cooper has them playing out of state competition are is swimming in the 6A pool! I assume they will be just fine!
Title: Re: Some Pre-Mature Predictions for Next Season
Post by: MDXPHD on December 03, 2018, 07:47:52 am
Quote from: Bbal789 on November 27, 2018, 07:26:32 pm
ESTEM and Mills both return a lot of talent this year. Madison Peaster is the best player in 4a and Kevin Cross is probably the second best with Branton Mccrary in the top 5. ESTEM's best players are Jacob Profit and Jacob Saunders who are both top players in 4a as well.

You're making some bold statements here. I don't know that I agree with any of them.