Cross County

[mrkingark]

Absolutely embarrassing for the school, all the board and administration should be fired!!!!! I feel bad for the boys, the board and administrators gave them no chance, they wanted change?  WELL THEY GOT IT............LOSING!!!!!!

[Boss Hog]

Absolutely embarrassing for the school, all the board and administration should be fired!!!!! I feel bad for the boys, the board and administrators gave them no chance, they wanted change?  WELL THEY GOT IT............LOSING!!!!!!

Is it basketball season yet?

[FoxandHound34]

Tough year fro the T-Birds I gather??

[Dogg]

Playmaker what happened to the Birds

[Hatchet]

Bad Board members is what happened. Had 3 10 win years in a row, 3 conference championships in a row but board wanted a change and they hired a basketball coach that doesn't have clue how to coach those boys there in CC.

[Dayton Kitchens]

Bad Board members is what happened. Had 3 10 win years in a row, 3 conference championships in a row but board wanted a change and they hired a basketball coach that doesn't have clue how to coach those boys there in CC.

What was the reasoning behind that?

[elvis26]

  they should have hired bert greenwell!! at least he knows how to win!!!

[Dogg]

Whoever idea is was to put CC in the single wing needs to be air lifted to a mental hospital. CC can play smash mouth power football as good as anyone and they have the players to do so. It could get worse before it gets better

[playmaker04]

It's hard for me to even talk about it. It's like a nightmare came true. We have an all State back that barely touches the ball. Our big back and all State back are never in the backfield at the same time. They rotate every 4 plays. It's disheartening to me because these boys have so much talent. It's rough to watch.

[Proud Buckaroo]

It's hard for me to even talk about it. It's like a nightmare came true. We have an all State back that barely touches the ball. Our big back and all State back are never in the backfield at the same time. They rotate every 4 plays. It's disheartening to me because these boys have so much talent. It's rough to watch.

That's what happens when you go to single wing. I thought you said it would work out? You have three kids who can tote the rock and one that will run you smack over. WING T.

[Dogg]

Wing T/Power I /Wishbone  would work for CC. The single wing does not fit CC personnel

[Greyhound#1]

Man I feel for y'all......it's looking wide open for the 2nd spot in the conference

[mrkingark]

I been to every game in 10 years, the school was looking at 5 conference championships in a row, with the talent they have.  Williams won his last 2, Greenwell won his only 1 and now this crap. They should first fire McClure, the guy that makes all the calls for the school, his 2 puppets that run the school will not go against his words. Then the board, they listen to every word he says, heck he doesn't even like football, so he puts CW, a board member in charge of the hiring, great job, stick to selling beans.  This should not be happening, but until the patrons sit back and let it the school will return to the worse football program in the state in a few years. Nothing against the new coach, but he bit off way more than he can chew.

[mrkingark]

And if you think last Friday nite was bad, cover your eyes this Friday night!

[big E]

Havner knows the power I and some wing -t stuff. With those backs line up in the pro I and run it down people's throat. Wells run the I last year at PW.

[mrkingark]

They won't go to the I, thats what Williams and then Greenwell ran, they want something different.

[Greyhound#1]

They won't go to the I, thats what Williams and then Greenwell ran, they want something different.

I know the past 4 or 5 years,  it was a relief when Cross County would throw the ball ......lol 

[big E]

I'm sorry didn't that work?

[Proud Buckaroo]

They won't go to the I, thats what Williams and then Greenwell ran, they want something different.

Obviously this coach doesn't know that you play the style that fits your kids.

[playmaker04]

I'll be the first to admit I thought it might work but also I didn't know #1 and #36 were going to be platooned. They absolutely have to be on the field at the same time no matter what Offense we run. #1 carried 2 times for 3 yards vs Barton. I've never seen a CC team quit like they did against Barton. If they don't go to something like wing T or I formation we will have trouble winning against Midland. These kids already know those offenses so it wouldn't be hard to implement it. I respect all these Coaches but sometimes you gotta scrap a plan if it doesn't work. I hate it for these kids because they have alot of talent. Already got some not showing up for practice. Not a good sign.

[NWA Hawg]

Whoever idea is was to put CC in the single wing needs to be air lifted to a mental hospital. CC can play smash mouth power football as good as anyone and they have the players to do so. It could get worse before it gets better

Isn't the single wing smashmouth football?

[big E]

Well it's a deception offence. It's the offence that the wing-t was born from.

[Proud Buckaroo]

Isn't the single wing smashmouth football?

Yeah... sort of. It's about deception. You must have good OL to be able to run Single wing to perfection.

[Dogg]

Earle ran it for years and did it exceptionally well. We didn't do smash mouth we used speed. When you have speed, deception and quick lineman is hard to defend.
If CC gets in the power I they are a different team. But the defense gave up 56 points so there are some other issues besides the offense.

[playmaker04]

They quit in second half. Part of the reason for the lopsided score and yardage. But they look lost on defense sometimes

[big E]

Aren't they running a 4-2-5? That's what I was told they were running. I would think a 5 front or a 4-4 would suit there kids.

[Proud Buckaroo]

Aren't they running a 4-2-5? That's what I was told they were running. I would think a 5 front or a 4-4 would suit there kids.

When you have a good coach or a coach that knows what he is doing. He changes the scheme for the kids they have.

[Dayton Kitchens]

Yeah... sort of. It's about deception. You must have good OL to be able to run Single wing to perfection.

I know I'm probably biased having coached the offensive line for ten years...

but you must have a good OL to run any offense to perfection.

At least I've never come across an offensive formation that they advertise as "your team can be very successful with this even if your OL is crap!"

If there was one I'm pretty sure a vast number of coaches would be running it.

[Dayton Kitchens]

When you have speed, deception and quick lineman is hard to defend.

When you have speed anything is hard to defend.   

Unless you can point me to an offense where they warn you "run this and it will neutralize any advantage you have in team speed"

[Proud Buckaroo]

I know I'm probably biased having coached the offensive line for ten years...

but you must have a good OL to run any offense to perfection.

At least I've never come across an offensive formation that they advertise as "your team can be very successful with this even if your OL is crap!"

If there was one I'm pretty sure a vast number of coaches would be running it.

Run what? The Single wing? Very doubtful. Yeah, all offensive schemes must have good OL to run a formation to perfection. But.... in the single Wing you must have OL that are quick on their feet and are able to make their pulls at the right time. If they are slow. The RB will never have any blockers.

[Dayton Kitchens]

Run what? The Single wing? Very doubtful. Yeah, all offensive schemes must have good OL to run a formation to perfection. But.... in the single Wing you must have OL that are quick on their feet and are able to make their pulls at the right time. If they are slow. The RB will never have any blockers.

No what I was saying that IF there was an offense that DID NOT require a good offensive line everyone would run it.    It would be one of the easiest things to use.   The offensive line being at high school, college and pro level generally being the last part of the team that comes together.

All offenses have different requirements for an offensive line.   But for all offenses the line must work well for the offense to work

[Proud Buckaroo]

No what I was saying that IF there was an offense that DID NOT require a good offensive line everyone would run it.    It would be one of the easiest things to use.   The offensive line being at high school, college and pro level generally being the last part of the team that comes together.

All offenses have different requirements for an offensive line.   But for all offenses the line must work well for the offense to work

Ahhh. Okay. I misunderstood what you were getting at. I could have worded my previous comments differently.

[NEark tigers]

Seems to me that CC better be right before Mr. Bohannon and Company comes to town on October 20.

[Dayton Kitchens]

I was in error.   There are two offensive formations that DO NOT require a decent offensive line to run successfully.    One is so rare I've only seen it used as a regular offense once.

The other is even rarer.

[Boss Hog]

I like Barton's flexbone

[TruthHurts]

They tried to screw it up lastyear. Thank Goodness for Bert Greenwell. Can't blame him for jumpin ship either.

[Dogg]

Where did Greenwell go

[Bstep9]

They tried to screw it up lastyear. Thank Goodness for Bert Greenwell. Can't blame him for jumpin ship either.

Greenwell didn't jump ship. He wasn't hired as head coach. He was offered a position by the new coach if that's what you were referring to. And the veer was created to offset a weak line.

[big E]

Probably for Greenwell it was I'm not good enough to be the head coach after a quarter FINAL run but you want me to be your assistant. No thanks. I don't know if that is what happened  but if it would have been me that's what I would have done.

[Bstep9]

Probably for Greenwell it was I'm not good enough to be the head coach after a quarter FINAL run but you want me to be your assistant. No thanks. I don't know if that is what happened  but if it would have been me that's what I would have done.

That's what happened.

[mrkingark]

Fire McClure!

[BigLion10]

Fire the Sup!

[Proud Buckaroo]

Fire everyone!

[playmaker04]

Offensive coordinator for 2-0 Jonesboro Westside

[Dogg]

What in the world is happening in Cherry Valley

[big E]

They are on a losing streak.

[Proud Buckaroo]

Will CC make the playoffs as a 5th seed this year? Or will marked tree knock them off?

[bdubyab60]

CC will be glad to hit conference play. They have lost to 2 4A schools and a 3a school. I know the guys there still think they are loaded and while I'm sure there are still some talented player there. They are not equal to what they have lost. Coaching change and new system doesn't help.

I know someone will get on here and say well in junior high they did this. That doesn't always translate up to senior high. Past couple years in junior high they had a kid twice as big as any kid on the field running the ball. Well when you move up sometimes everyone is the same size. Some kids get better and some don't.

I would be shocked if Earle doesn't win the conference somewhat easily this year. Not saying they are gonna mercy rule everyone but they have the best player and the most talented athletes. Below them it's anyone's guess and it will come down to which teams play the best on any given night. A lot of games are going to be able to go either way. I wouldn't be surprised to see Midland and Rector scare the crap out of someone this year

[mrkingark]

It has nothing to do with the competition or the talent, its all about the change in the coaches!  These boys know how to win, they had everything to look forward to!  Then McClure wanted to destroy the football team, because he was jealous that it got more attention than his New-Tech, computer school.  So he swindle his puppet board members to do what they did and they fell for it hook, line, and sinker.  Feel bad for the players and the parents.

[bdubyab60]

If you think you still have the talent you guys have had over the past few years you have your homer glasses on. Name some players you have that are just as good as Davis and Byasse. I'm not saying the cupboard is bare but you do not have that kind of talent there. Bottom line.

Just because the kids have won and know how to win does not mean that they will.

It does sound like CC has some internal issues and believe they made some poor decisions, including the new hire. But to make the statement that they are purposefully destroying the football program sounds ridiculous. They must really hate kids to do that