Any Thoughts on DeQueen football next season?

[Arkansas8]

Returning 8 offensive starters and 8 defensive starters who only play on 1 side of the ball

[Lionheart88]

They'll be better than North Pulaski.  I'd still expect them to finish 8th in the South though.

[purpleswag]

They'll be better than North Pulaski.  I'd still expect them to finish 8th in the South though.

I would hope so since North Pulaski won't be fielding a team

[Jimbo Morphis]

nice soccer school.

[Lionheart88]

They'll be better than North Pulaski.  I'd still expect them to finish 8th in the South though.

I would hope so since North Pulaski won't be fielding a team

You know how a joke stops being funny when you have to explain it?

[tmycjy]

Here my prediction for next year for your team I don't have all the number yet but this is what my computer is saying right now

1. Mena.  22-44 L
2. Nashville 17-49 L
3. Ashdown 28-38 L
4. Hope 35-32 W
5. Waston Chapel 19-35 L
6. Hot Springs 21-42 L
7. Camden 14-48 L
8. HS Lakeside 34-37 L
9. Magnolia 21-20 W
10. White Hall 29-42 L

This will make your season at 2-8 2-5 as of right now u will be improve from last year but not enought enrollment in your school to have winning season that just what think now reamber this could change want all the number go in to my computer so good luck to your school next year

[Leopard]

Offense has a lot of question marks after losing top two receivers and quarterback. Drew Dykes should be able to fill in nicely and lead the offense efficiently.  Offense Line looks to be the best thing on the offense side of the ball.  As far as receivers, there are still a lot of question marks that are to be determined.
On the Defense of side, Secondary and linebackers should be the strong point.  It will be tough after losing Blake Lowrey and Kobi Whitmore but with Hugo Martinez and Cirlio Resendiz leading the Defense it should be fine.  Defense Line  has some question marks at the moment.

[FanOfTheSport]

Soccer and Track 

[KOJACK]

I think they should drop the program personally.

[Foukesasquatch]

DeQueen plays football? Did this thread mean Futbol?

[Hoghead2]

5A South Football isn't a good spot for DeQueen.....

[Rivalshog]

5A South Football isn't a good spot for DeQueen.....

The same can be said for Hope....

[PrivateLesson]

DeQueen needs to get it together in Football....hopefully, they will be better this year.   

[MDXPHD]

No, no thoughts on DeQeen football.

[Chief_Osceola™]

No, no thoughts on DeQeen football.

[sevenof400]

They are the defending state champions - don't know what else they need to do other than reload.

[Rivalshog]

DeQueen needs to get it together in Football....hopefully, they will be better this year.

Easier said than done when your school is majority hispanic

[Lionheart88]

They are the defending state champions - don't know what else they need to do other than reload.

Wrong football.   

[PrivateLesson]

DeQueen needs to get it together in Football....hopefully, they will be better this year.

Easier said than done when your school is majority hispanic

I have to believe that with as much athleticism DeQueen has in Futbol or Soccer that the Coach can't maybe try and convince some to go out for Football as well.   An outreach to kids is an outreach to kids.   Do they simply not want to play Football?   Is it numbers?  Is it Coaching?  What seems to be the main issue?   

[PrivateLesson]

Also, why is the Football programs lack of winning games being blamed on The Hispanics or Soccer Program?  Or am I misinterpreting what is being said?   

[Wahls]

DeQueen plays football? Did this thread mean Futbol?

De Queen would beat Fouke in both, and that's all you should worry about.

I have to believe that with as much athleticism DeQueen has in Futbol or Soccer that the Coach can't maybe try and convince some to go out for Football as well.   An outreach to kids is an outreach to kids.   Do they simply not want to play Football?   Is it numbers?  Is it Coaching?  What seems to be the main issue?   

I wouldn't really say that our soccer team is "athletic" more so than 90% of the team has been playing since they got out a crib and are very skilled by the time they even hit middle school.

I think it hurts football only by circumstance. Good soccer players are shorter and don't "generally" make good football players. There are a lot of very good Hispanic lineman that are big and athletic in that school, but for whatever reason, you don't see many over 6'0" that also move well vertically, which makes us weak at the skill positions. Just some observations.

[PrivateLesson]

DeQueen plays football? Did this thread mean Futbol?

De Queen would beat Fouke in both, and that's all you should worry about.

I have to believe that with as much athleticism DeQueen has in Futbol or Soccer that the Coach can't maybe try and convince some to go out for Football as well.   An outreach to kids is an outreach to kids.   Do they simply not want to play Football?   Is it numbers?  Is it Coaching?  What seems to be the main issue?   

I wouldn't really say that our soccer team is "athletic" more so than 90% of the team has been playing since they got out a crib and are very skilled by the time they even hit middle school.

I think it hurts football only by circumstance. Good soccer players are shorter and don't "generally" make good football players.

Most can kick field goal.....and height isn't always necessary if they have speed....running back or tight ends aren't necessarily always tall, either.   


I understand that most have played soccer since babies but does DeQueen have a PeeWee football program? 

[Wahls]

DeQueen plays football? Did this thread mean Futbol?

De Queen would beat Fouke in both, and that's all you should worry about.

I have to believe that with as much athleticism DeQueen has in Futbol or Soccer that the Coach can't maybe try and convince some to go out for Football as well.   An outreach to kids is an outreach to kids.   Do they simply not want to play Football?   Is it numbers?  Is it Coaching?  What seems to be the main issue?   

I wouldn't really say that our soccer team is "athletic" more so than 90% of the team has been playing since they got out a crib and are very skilled by the time they even hit middle school.

I think it hurts football only by circumstance. Good soccer players are shorter and don't "generally" make good football players.

Most can kick field goal.....and height isn't always necessary if they have speed....running back or tight ends aren't necessarily always tall, either.   


I understand that most have played soccer since babies but does DeQueen have a PeeWee football program? 

Point blank, it's genetics. It's the same reason why you don't see white cornerbacks at higher levels. And I'm not blaming white people or hispanics, it's just an observation.

My wife is hispanic, and her entire family is under 5'6". There are a lot of families like that in De Queen. That means they're jitter bugs that are ridiculous at soccer, but choose not to suit up and play football because of their size. Also because they're so short, they're not fast. Tall Hispanics are also generally big, and when I went to school there, there were many big athletic guys who would have made great lineman. Several of those guys played and played well. You just end up with a really shallow pool of skill guys.

Look at many of the great boxers from 160lb's down. The lower weight classes are dominated by Hispanics. It's why we're fantastic at soccer, field and distance events in track, and cross country. I'm not complaining.

[DerekOxford]

It really hurts De Queen to be 5A in football because they just don't have the numbers for it. In most other sports, especially soccer, they are very competitive, but in football it hurts them.

[Wahls]

It really hurts De Queen to be 5A in football because they just don't have the numbers for it. In most other sports, especially soccer, they are very competitive, but in football it hurts them.

Great point. This is more of a contributing factor than the student make up.

[Beaver Fever]

The alternative is the 7-4A.  I dont think there would be much difference other then getting a win against Waldron.

[MDXPHD]

It really hurts De Queen to be 5A in football because they just don't have the numbers for it. In most other sports, especially soccer, they are very competitive, but in football it hurts them.

Great point. This is more of a contributing factor than the student make up.

Why don't they have the numbers for it? They are playing in the 5A because of their numbers, right? What's different between them and other small, 5A schools?

[Wahls]

It really hurts De Queen to be 5A in football because they just don't have the numbers for it. In most other sports, especially soccer, they are very competitive, but in football it hurts them.

Great point. This is more of a contributing factor than the student make up.

Why don't they have the numbers for it? They are playing in the 5A because of their numbers, right? What's different between them and other small, 5A schools?

Small 5a school plus the demographic issue.

[MDXPHD]

It really hurts De Queen to be 5A in football because they just don't have the numbers for it. In most other sports, especially soccer, they are very competitive, but in football it hurts them.

Great point. This is more of a contributing factor than the student make up.

Why don't they have the numbers for it? They are playing in the 5A because of their numbers, right? What's different between them and other small, 5A schools?

Small 5a school plus the demographic issue.

I don't buy the small 5A school argument.  There are other smaller schools that compete well. It is something to do with the demographic issue, which is an advantage in other sports.  Their soccer team fields 40 kids per year.. a substantial number for soccer.

[Lionheart88]

They're .33 students above Morrilton for the title of smallest public school in 5A.  Combine that with a demographic makeup that doesn't really lend itself to football, and there you go.

[PrivateLesson]

The alternative is the 7-4A.  I dont think there would be much difference other then getting a win against Waldron.

Lets hope Waldron turns it around too. 

[MDXPHD]

They're .33 students above Morrilton for the title of smallest public school in 5A.  Combine that with a demographic makeup that doesn't really lend itself to football, and there you go.

They are above a team that won the state championship a few years ago? And how many students does PA have? I understand, a different caliber of football players and athletes at each school..but I don't see how size is a good argument. 

[Beaver Fever]

Subtract  the Mexicans and you have a 3a school

[Beaver Fever]

What other schools have a high Mexican population? Are they any good at football?

[Lionheart88]

Hispanics.  Lots of them are from countries other than Mexico.

[Proud Buckaroo]

The alternative is the 7-4A.  I dont think there would be much difference other then getting a win against Waldron.

Lets hope Waldron turns it around too.

Not going to happen in the first year. They got a very good Coach, who could very well turn the program around, but not in the first year of him being there.

[Proud Buckaroo]

Subtract  the Mexicans and you have a 3a school

They are called Hispanics. Not Mexicans.

[Wahls]

It really hurts De Queen to be 5A in football because they just don't have the numbers for it. In most other sports, especially soccer, they are very competitive, but in football it hurts them.

Great point. This is more of a contributing factor than the student make up.

Why don't they have the numbers for it? They are playing in the 5A because of their numbers, right? What's different between them and other small, 5A schools?

Small 5a school plus the demographic issue.

I don't buy the small 5A school argument.  There are other smaller schools that compete well. It is something to do with the demographic issue, which is an advantage in other sports.  Their soccer team fields 40 kids per year.. a substantial number for soccer.

They are a small 5a school with a demographic issue. When you combine the two it becomes an issue when you need 22 quality starters. Whether you choose to buy it or not, citing random soccer numbers is about as relevant as saying you ate a sandwich today.

[MDXPHD]

But you're just trying to put two facts together and blame them...the small part has nothing to do with it. It has absolutely everything to do with the demographics. You can believe what you want, but being small in your division doesn't not make it impossible for you to compete. It's clearly just because they don't have football players. Obviously, you are set on it being because they are a small school, just slightly larger than a recent state champion ha. I won't try to prove my point anymore though. I concede.

[Uncle Ivan]

Subtract  the Mexicans and you have a 3a school

They are called Hispanics. Not Mexicans.

Many Hispanics are terrified of Mexicans.

[Okieback]

Did they go 10-0 I. Junior high last year?


And I ate "half" a sandwich today, thank you very much

[Wahls]

But you're just trying to put two facts together and blame them...the small part has nothing to do with it. It has absolutely everything to do with the demographics. You can believe what you want, but being small in your division doesn't not make it impossible for you to compete. It's clearly just because they don't have football players. Obviously, you are set on it being because they are a small school, just slightly larger than a recent state champion ha. I won't try to prove my point anymore though. I concede.

It's not a mind bending concept.

If I have 500 kids and 50% of the demographic is not suited to play football, compared to a school that has 800 kids and 50% can't, 400>250.

Numbers don't always equal talent but you are far more likely to have depth which is something De Queen has never had.

[Okieback]

So
Was their junior high undefeated last season?

[modder]

So
Was their junior high undefeated last season?

Yes

[Lionheart88]

Who does their jr. high play?

[Okieback]

Yes
Who do they play?

[modder]

Yes
Who do they play?

http://www.kdqn.net/Football%20Schedules.htm

[Rivalshog]

Subtract  the Mexicans and you have a 3a school

They are called Hispanics. Not Mexicans.

Um wrong they are called both and dont care if called mexican.  Exactly why I call black people blacks.  African American makes no sense at all and most blacks would rather be called black

[Rivalshog]

What other schools have a high Mexican population? Are they any good at football?

Springdale  0-10

[Rivalshog]

Subtract  the Mexicans and you have a 3a school

No, probably 2a