Davis took Asst principal job at Prarie Grove
Was he also the AD?
Who is the AD there?
Derrek Harrell, but pretty much the superintendent is in charge.
I've heard the Supt is making all sports related decisions without any say from any other administrators. Not real sure how that is going to play out. In baseball, basketball, and football, he will have had 5 different head coaches in those sports in only his 2nd or 3rd year.
Coach Davis is a really good coach, but more than that, he was probably one of the best in the business at influencing young men to be great citizens, husbands, and fathers. He took a lot of what Peacock used to do and turned it up a couple of notches. I hope he finds a way to do continue to do that as an administrator.
Quote from: ClutchFactor62 on April 18, 2018, 11:25:25 am
I've heard the Supt is making all sports related decisions without any say from any other administrators. Not real sure how that is going to play out. In baseball, basketball, and football, he will have had 5 different head coaches in those sports in only his 2nd or 3rd year.
Pretty accurate.
Quote from: Coach DePriest, Shiloh Christian on April 18, 2018, 11:31:15 am
Coach Davis is a really good coach, but more than that, he was probably one of the best in the business at influencing young men to be great citizens, husbands, and fathers. He took a lot of what Peacock used to do and turned it up a couple of notches. I hope he finds a way to do continue to do that as an administrator.
Well said!
Quote from: WTD on April 18, 2018, 11:48:13 am
Well said!
You seem to be in the know. Have any idea who the Supt has in mind?
From what I've heard, the Supt's expectations are extremely high for the coaches there.
Quote from: OB11 on April 18, 2018, 01:28:08 pm
From what I've heard, the Supt's expectations are extremely high for the coaches there.
Is that a bad thing?
Quote from: Iknewthemwhen on April 18, 2018, 02:28:33 pm
Is that a bad thing?
Eh...I probably should have put unrealistic in front of expectations. Telling coaches they have to win a certain number of games and beat specific teams at the high school level is not good practice IMO.
Wow! You sure he did that? Sounds like he must have done it to all the head coaches from the post about replacing all the HC's in first few years.
Quote from: Iknewthemwhen on April 18, 2018, 02:28:33 pm
Is that a bad thing?
It is if you're Marion. They struggle to compete against the better teams on their schedule, it wouldn't matter who the head coaches were, they just don't have the Jimmy's and Joe's in large enough numbers
There seems to be a lot of schools out there that never really win much. In those cases does losing just become acceptable?
This is actually Dr. Fenter's first year. Changed baseball and baskeball coaches first month he was there last July. Nothing wrong with high expectations but like yall said, may be unrealistic with the level of talent in Marion. They don't pay coaches very good so idk how they will get or keep good coaches, they have some great assistants that will probably leave as well.
Ditto on Davis building kids of great character.
How were JV/JH Marion kids last fall?
Quote from: Pat Swilling on April 19, 2018, 08:29:40 am
How were JV/JH Marion kids last fall?
They were good. The high school team was extremely young last year. The next couple of years will be the most talented Marion has been in a while. They've also been pretty competitive the past 3 years against the better teams in the conference
Good. I'm sure they will be able to bring in a quality coach.
Marion usually goes undefeated in Jr. High because there is only one team. If you look at West Memphis-3 jr highs- Jonesboro-2 Jr highs the talent is spread over more teams but means kids with alot more experience when they get to one high school. Marion needs 2 Jr high teams to develop talent to compete.
Quote from: Sporty on April 19, 2018, 08:51:27 am
Marion usually goes undefeated in Jr. High because there is only one team. If you look at West Memphis-3 jr highs- Jonesboro-2 Jr highs the talent is spread over more teams but means kids with alot more experience when they get to one high school. Marion needs 2 Jr high teams to develop talent to compete.
Agreed.
Their JH has been pretty good but year before lost to a West Memphis school and a Jonesboro school the year before that. How did they finish this year?
Quote from: Made on April 19, 2018, 12:21:10 pm
Their JH has been pretty good but year before lost to a West Memphis school and a Jonesboro school the year before that. How did they finish this year?
Their Jr. High has been really good. I think they've won or shared that conference the last two years. But the issue is that they are only getting half the kids playing experience compared to the Jonesboro district, and a third the kids as West Memphis because they only have one Jr. High. Having more Jr. High teams would give players more experience and in theory making their high school program better.
Quote from: Sporty on April 19, 2018, 08:28:05 am
This is actually Dr. Fenter's first year. Changed baseball and baskeball coaches first month he was there last July. Nothing wrong with high expectations but like yall said, may be unrealistic with the level of talent in Marion. They don't pay coaches very good so idk how they will get or keep good coaches, they have some great assistants that will probably leave as well.
Ditto on Davis building kids of great character.
I didn't realize Fenter was the Sup, now. He sure has moved around the last few years. I agree, you can't change out coaches after every few seasons. Now, they had some that had been there for awhile that needed to move on, and they did. I don't know about these recent coaches leaving, seems peculiar.
Fenter is in charge without question and yes the expectations are unrealistic. They talent doesnt match those expectations. Marion has 3 losses before the season starta. They will never beat WM, Jboro or PB and have to have to play really good to beat Searcy. The othsr conference gamea are 50/50. Non conference they wont beat wynne consistanly if at all. So .500 is a good season but wont fly with admin.
Something is going on there, I heard the basketball coach quit today after 1 yr....
Quote from: whosyourdaddy on April 19, 2018, 09:41:15 pm
Fenter is in charge without question and yes the expectations are unrealistic. They talent doesnt match those expectations. Marion has 3 losses before the season starta. They will never beat WM, Jboro or PB and have to have to play really good to beat Searcy. The othsr conference gamea are 50/50. Non conference they wont beat wynne consistanly if at all. So .500 is a good season but wont fly with admin.
Something is going on there, I heard the basketball coach quit today after 1 yr....
They beat Jonesboro last year, and have had very competitive games with WM and PB the last few years. They have hosted playoff games in consecutive years for one of the few times in school history. So they have had some decent recent success
Quote from: ClutchFactor62 on April 20, 2018, 08:36:23 am
They beat Jonesboro last year, and have had very competitive games with WM and PB the last few years. They have hosted playoff games in consecutive years for one of the few times in school history. So they have had some decent recent success
You have to beat MH, Hall, and Jax in the standings to host a playoff game, again, not that hard. Marion has some good athletes, just not the numbers in every sport to be competitive at the top. I think they are trending back up, but changing coaches this often does seem, different??
Quote from: ricepig on April 20, 2018, 09:30:57 am
You have to beat MH, Hall Sylvan Hills, and Jax in the standings to host a playoff game, again, not that hard. Marion has some good athletes, just not the numbers in every sport to be competitive at the top. I think they are trending back up, but changing coaches this often does seem, different??
I think it got a little harder trading Hall for Sylvan Hills.
Quote from: ClutchFactor62 on April 20, 2018, 08:36:23 am
They beat Jonesboro last year, and have had very competitive games with WM and PB the last few years. They have hosted playoff games in consecutive years for one of the few times in school history. So they have had some decent recent success
They played us real close two years ago, last year not so much 42-13.
Quote from: Kraig Crist on April 20, 2018, 06:26:17 pm
I think it got a little harder trading Hall for Sylvan Hills.
I was speaking about their previous "home play-off games", but yes, Sylvan Hills will be much tougher than Hall.
timetable on this hire?
Any Names yet on who put in for it
Marion's DC just left to be the Head Coach at West Fork.
Quote from: OB11 on April 23, 2018, 11:53:59 am
Marion's DC just left to be the Head Coach at West Fork.
Heard from others that know that staff say he's a great coach. Apparently long over due for a head job. Ive heard there are some other good assistants on that staff. Hopefully this move doesn't affect them negatively.
Does anyone know who is being interviewed yet? Will interviews start this week?
Quote from: Pat Swilling on April 23, 2018, 09:00:31 am
timetable on this hire?
I'd like to know this as well. You'd think they would like to have a new coach by the time spring ball starts.
I heard they hope to have someone hired by the end of next week. Also heard that Fenter is conducting the interviews himself with and asst sup, AD and high school principal.
Could be a good job with right guy in place.
From 05 to 11 they won 49 games and that seems to be the best they have ever been. Who have been the coaches over the past 20 years?
2006 (Jerry Franklin), 2010, and 2011 (Trey Franklin) were their best years under Mark Uhiren. Uhiren had back to back seasons 2-8 and the program was barely functional. Coach Davis got there and there were maybe 20 kids in off-season in April of 2014. Numbers shot up to in the 60's, 70's and 80's just not the athletes that were there in 2011 and prior. Coach Davis has done the best they could've done with what they had. His quarterback his first two seasons had never even played football till his junior year and by the time is senior season was over he had thrown for over 2,500 yards. Their starting QB, Jacob Green gets hurt the next year in their first game against Wynne and their backup QB threw for over 2,000 yards that season. People have high expectations and that's great, but you also have to be realistic.
So it sounds like things fell off at the end of the Uhiren era. Was the roster during the season that low or just off season wasn't doing well. Surely they didn't only have 20 kids on the sidelines during the season.
Quote from: Iknewthemwhen on April 24, 2018, 02:08:18 pm
So it sounds like things fell off at the end of the Uhiren era. Was the roster during the season that low or just off season wasn't doing well. Surely they didn't only have 20 kids on the sidelines during the season.
There were close to 40 on the roster I believe Uhiren's last year. There was a lot of uncertainty going on with the program until Coach Davis was hired. Number's got into the 60's very shortly after. Whoever they hire shouldn't have a problem with numbers unless they bring the diamond t or full house backfield back.
I'd bet if they can win it will not make much difference what they run. Score points and stop their opponent.
Quote from: game on on April 24, 2018, 02:28:37 pm
I'd bet if they can win it will not make much difference what they run. Score points and stop their opponent.
It's funny how winning does that
Quote from: purpleswag on April 25, 2018, 05:03:23 am
It's funny how winning does that
Just don't think you'll find long term success running a wing, diamond, or dead T playing in the 6A East with the type of athletes Marion has. They definitely have speed, but I don't see them lining up and running over Pine Bluff, West Memphis, or Jonesboro with fullback dive or veer all game.
Quote from: Redwolves8526 on April 25, 2018, 08:44:46 am
Just don't think you'll find long term success running a wing, diamond, or dead T playing in the 6A East with the type of athletes Marion has. They definitely have speed, but I don't see them lining up and running over Pine Bluff, West Memphis, or Jonesboro with fullback dive or veer all game.
100% agree
Who will lead Marion through spring ball?
Quote from: Redwolves8526 on April 25, 2018, 08:44:46 am
Just don't think you'll find long term success running a wing, diamond, or dead T playing in the 6A East with the type of athletes Marion has. They definitely have speed, but I don't see them lining up and running over Pine Bluff, West Memphis, or Jonesboro with fullback dive or veer all game.
It's quite obvious the spread hasn't been working at Marion either,
if running the spread is your answer for Marion then why have they been doing so poorly?? Some people fail to realize that option teams do not require a huge O-line, you have to be tough and quick to get up to the second level and hold a block long enough for the RB to make a play, slow fat linemen just get in the way. Look at Harding they have been doing some damage in division II football, look at Navy and Georgia Tech, they also don't have big linemen GT is always in the hunt in the ACC, Surely Marion has linemen like that that can match up at the high school level, and i'm sure they have speed on the edge which could be lethal running an option attack offense, especially since their conference teams aren't used to preparing for a team like that. Hard to prepare for that offense in just 4 days.
Quote from: HogWild25 on April 25, 2018, 10:24:07 am
It's quite obvious the spread hasn't been working at Marion either, if running the spread is your answer for Marion then why have they been doing so poorly?? Some people fail to realize that option teams do not require a huge O-line, you have to be tough and quick to get up to the second level and hold a block long enough for the RB to make a play, slow fat linemen just get in the way. Look at Harding they have been doing some damage in division II football, look at Navy and Georgia Tech, they also don't have big linemen GT is always in the hunt in the ACC, Surely Marion has linemen like that that can match up at the high school level, and i'm sure they have speed on the edge which could be lethal running an option attack offense, especially since their conference teams aren't used to preparing for a team like that. Hard to prepare for that offense in just 4 days.
They have averaged almost 34 per game the past three seasons running the spread... according to MaxPreps. And I'm pretty sure Mountain Home runs some sort of T formation in that conference and have been for years.
Quote from: Pat Swilling on April 25, 2018, 09:48:10 am
Who will lead Marion through spring ball?
Probably the 3 defensive coaches that are left, along with the OC and O-Line coach.
Quote from: game on on April 24, 2018, 02:28:37 pm
I'd bet if they can win it will not make much difference what they run. Score points and stop their opponent.
Quote from: purpleswag on April 25, 2018, 05:03:23 am
It's funny how winning does that
Quote from: Redwolves8526 on April 25, 2018, 08:44:46 am
Just don't think you'll find long term success running a wing, diamond, or dead T playing in the 6A East with the type of athletes Marion has. They definitely have speed, but I don't see them lining up and running over Pine Bluff, West Memphis, or Jonesboro with fullback dive or veer all game.
Quote from: HogWild25 on April 25, 2018, 10:24:07 am
It's quite obvious the spread hasn't been working at Marion either, if running the spread is your answer for Marion then why have they been doing so poorly?? Some people fail to realize that option teams do not require a huge O-line, you have to be tough and quick to get up to the second level and hold a block long enough for the RB to make a play, slow fat linemen just get in the way. Look at Harding they have been doing some damage in division II football, look at Navy and Georgia Tech, they also don't have big linemen GT is always in the hunt in the ACC, Surely Marion has linemen like that that can match up at the high school level, and i'm sure they have speed on the edge which could be lethal running an option attack offense, especially since their conference teams aren't used to preparing for a team like that. Hard to prepare for that offense in just 4 days.
Marion has been mostly a struggling program throughout its history. The prejudice toward or against a particular offense or defense is not helping that program. They have been just about every type team you can imagine, results basically the same.
If you think Spread is the answer then look around at all the teams in the spread that loose. If you think that Wing T or Diamond T will not work then you should do a little research. There are some of the best teams in America running the Wing t for instance. Bellevue Washington, Clarksville MD, Lowdes GA, Blue Ridge AZ to name a few. These teams have been ranked in the top 10-20 nationally, won state championships. West Memphis which has a much better history than Marion was a Wing T team for something like 20 years. There are of course Spread teams that win championships and Wing T teams that loose lots of games. It's not just the offense its who is
coaching it. Every Friday teams running every conceivable offense or defense possible are winning and loosing. You need a coach that understands kids, understands the offense and defense he has chosen and can assemble a staff that can coach it properly and get the kids to play hard and play a very physical game. Go talk to Malzahn and ask him where the basis for his offense comes from? He has written and spoken about it often.
Here is the best record Marion has had in a long time. Who was the coach and what did he run.
2013: 2 (11 games)
2012: 2 (11 games)
2011: 8 (12 games)
2010: 7 (11 games)
2009: 6 (11 games)
2008: 5 (11 games)
2007: 6 (11 games)
2006: 8 (12 games)
2005: 9 (12 games
Quote from: Iknewthemwhen on April 25, 2018, 12:05:29 pm
Here is the best record Marion has had in a long time. Who was the coach and what did he run.
2013: 2 (11 games)
2012: 2 (11 games)
2011: 8 (12 games)
2010: 7 (11 games)
2009: 6 (11 games)
2008: 5 (11 games)
2007: 6 (11 games)
2006: 8 (12 games)
2005: 9 (12 games
Mark Uhiren
2005 and 2006 He had Darcell Johnson and Jerry Franklin
2010 and 2011 Trey Franklin, Rashad Boyd, and Cory Garrett
5 of the best athletes to ever come through Marion.
Isn't that what program operate on, good athletes? What style of offense were they running. Seems Urhiren was old fashioned almost a run only kind of guy.
Coach Uhiren. In 05, the best season according to your list, they were in a conference very similar to the 5A East (Tech, Paragould, Wynne, etc) He had decent success. But in my opinion, they didn't play near the schedule from 05 to 11 as Marion plays now. Beating teams like GCT, Parkview, Paragould, Blytheville, Forrest City, Hall, Jacksonville, and Searcy (before their recent success) was a much easier feat than beating West Memphis, Pine Bluff, Jonesboro, Searcy,etc.
Check Coach Uhiren's last 2 years running that offense against tougher competition. It wasn't pretty. To me, the thing that has made Marion competitive the past 3 years has been their ability to pass the ball effectively and play outside the box. I get it, any offense can work and there are some successful teams that are extremely run heavy. But for Marion, an equalizer for them was to make the D honor every part of the field to counter having small lineman, and developing QB's that could make plays. Watch them play Pine Bluff, West Memphis, and Jonesboro. They are outsized at every position and it's not even close.
Being from NEA, I'm judging this off the few games I saw them play in conference against Jonesboro and West Memphis. I didn't think there was any way that they had the personnel to run downhill at them all game be effective. But, they had some dang good receivers and skill kids.
I just don't see a coach going to Marion and having sustained success in that conference running a 2-3 back, 1-2 tight offense. Just an observation of their personnel after watching their 6A-East conference games the past couple of years.
Quote from: ClutchFactor62 on April 25, 2018, 01:08:53 pm
Coach Uhiren. In 05, the best season according to your list, they were in a conference very similar to the 5A East (Tech, Paragould, Wynne, etc) He had decent success. But in my opinion, they didn't play near the schedule from 05 to 11 as Marion plays now. Beating teams like GCT, Parkview, Paragould, Blytheville, Forrest City, Hall, Jacksonville, and Searcy (before their recent success) was a much easier feat than beating West Memphis, Pine Bluff, Jonesboro, Searcy,etc.
Check Coach Uhiren's last 2 years running that offense against tougher competition. It wasn't pretty. To me, the thing that has made Marion competitive the past 3 years has been their ability to pass the ball effectively and play outside the box. I get it, any offense can work and there are some successful teams that are extremely run heavy. But for Marion, an equalizer for them was to make the D honor every part of the field to counter having small lineman, and developing QB's that could make plays. Watch them play Pine Bluff, West Memphis, and Jonesboro. They are outsized at every position and it's not even close.
Being from NEA, I'm judging this off the few games I saw them play in conference against Jonesboro and West Memphis. I didn't think there was any way that they had the personnel to run downhill at them all game be effective. But, they had some dang good receivers and skill kids.
I just don't see a coach going to Marion and having sustained success in that conference running a 2-3 back, 1-2 tight offense. Just an observation of their personnel after watching their 6A-East conference games the past couple of years.
Spread ain't getting it done either, something's gotta give. Sounds like they need to hire a head football coach that knows how to win and has won. They need to look for someone who has won a state title before ::) and not some guy that's going to do exactly what the last coach did and be below average to average while he's there.
Quote from: titan33 on April 25, 2018, 01:21:53 pm
Spread ain't getting it done either, something's gotta give. Sounds like they need to hire a head football coach that knows how to win and has won. They need to look for someone who has won a state title before ::) and not some guy that's going to do exactly what the last coach did and be below average to average while he's there.
They improved a lot under the previous coaching staff. So I don't think it's fair to call them below average or even average.
Quote from: Redwolves8526 on April 25, 2018, 01:28:43 pm
They improved a lot under the previous coaching staff. So I don't think it's fair to call them below average or even average.
2017 5-7
2016 5-7
2015 5-7
?
Quote from: Redwolves8526 on April 25, 2018, 01:28:43 pm
They improved a lot under the previous coaching staff. So I don't think it's fair to call them below average or even average.
Their win/loss says average at best and the teams they have beaten are mostly bad. That would indicate average or less. They are going to get better when they improve their overall game, need to be able to run and pass effectively and they have got to play more physical up front on the Oline and across ball on defense.
Quote from: Redwolves8526 on April 25, 2018, 01:28:43 pm
They improved a lot under the previous coaching staff. So I don't think it's fair to call them below average or even average.
Quote from: titan33 on April 25, 2018, 02:11:02 pm
2017 5-7
2016 5-7
2015 5-7
?
You are correct their record improved the past 3 seasons compared to Davis' 1st and to the last 2 season's of Uhiren.
But you have to look at who they are beating, and how those teams were doing that particular season.
In 2017 teams they beat won a total of 10 games, in 2016 teams they beat won a total of 15 games, in 2014 teams they beat won a total of24 games, in 2014 teams they beat won just 1 game. Also when you look at those teams you see they were playing down against lower classifications for the majority of those wins. This means they may not have really been improving because the quality wins are fewer each year.
Now, if you are smart you will play down to get some wins to help your record as well as your kids confidence but I don't think it shows they were continuing to improve because they are winning the same number of games but the opponents are weaker in each preceeding year
I think it is clear that it's a tough place to win. Whoever gets the job will have a tough job for sure. I'd say this, if I were the coach I'd try to pad the schedule if possible to get some early wins and keep working on what you are not good at. I don't care what they run but they better get real good at it. Every offense has strengths and in many cases you need the right personnel to take advantage of those inherent strenghts.
It's Jimmy's and Joe's, they don't have enough to win at a much higher rate than the have, no matter the offense. They don't have a winning tradition, so it's going to be tough no matter who the next coach is, if the Super can't be satisfied with .500 or a little above, then maybe he needs to coach. He did so wonderfully coaching from the stands when his son played for WM(baseball).
Quote from: ricepig on April 25, 2018, 07:39:25 pm
It's Jimmy's and Joe's, they don't have enough to win at a much higher rate than the have, no matter the offense. They don't have a winning tradition, so it's going to be tough no matter who the next coach is, if the Super can't be satisfied with .500 or a little above, then maybe he needs to coach. He did so wonderfully coaching from the stands when his son played for WM(baseball).
[/quoteQuote from: ricepig on April 25, 2018, 07:39:25 pm
It's Jimmy's and Joe's, they don't have enough to win at a much higher rate than the have, no matter the offense. They don't have a winning tradition, so it's going to be tough no matter who the next coach is, if the Super can't be satisfied with .500 or a little above, then maybe he needs to coach. He did so wonderfully coaching from the stands when his son played for WM(baseball).
I just think Marion need to create 2 Jr highs so u can develop talent. Both sports. They have a 100 kids in 7th grade that turn into 18 by 10th grade. When u don't play.... U don't want to participate.....Just my opinion.
Quote from: WMWRECKINGCREW on April 25, 2018, 08:03:55 pm
I just think Marion need to create 2 Jr highs so u can develop talent. Both sports. They have a 100 kids in 7th grade that turn into 18 by 10th grade. When u don't play.... U don't want to participate.....Just my opinion.
No doubt, the more kids you have getting experience, the better your program will be, for the most part. Of course there are exceptions to this, but it's proven to be true for the most part with our Jr high conference.
Any word on this position? Spring ball is not too far away.
Who applied?
Why is this job taking so long to fill? They had to have had some good candidates for it.
Quote from: Eagle boss on May 04, 2018, 06:10:33 am
Why is this job taking so long to fill? They had to have had some good candidates for it.
You'd be surprised
I have heard that they have interviewed at least 12 guys. But I haven't heard any of the actual names. Everyone is being quiet and won't talk.
Quote from: Redwolves8526 on May 04, 2018, 09:23:00 am
You'd be surprised
So does that mean you'd be surprised because; the quality of applicants is so high, the quality of applicants is not very good, the factors that are affecting the hire that really don't have much direct impact on the coaching aspect of the job?
Quote from: GotInfo? on May 04, 2018, 09:36:01 am
I have heard that they have interviewed at least 12 guys. But I haven't heard any of the actual names. Everyone is being quiet and won't talk.
I've heard 3 really good names from south Arkansas that have applied. All 3 excellent Coaches. Not sure what Marion is waiting on. Potential is there with right fit.
Alias Smith, Jones, and Smith.
Quote from: GotInfo? on May 04, 2018, 09:36:01 am
I have heard that they have interviewed at least 12 guys. But I haven't heard any of the actual names. Everyone is being quiet and won't talk.
Isn't that a lot of guys to interview? I would think that most schools would narrow it down to a manageable number before they interview.
Usually they would bring in 6-8 and then do call back interviews of 2-3. I had heard that they were planning on interviewing about 8 and then offering off of those because of the time frame. Obviously plans have changed.
I still haven't heard who all has interviewed. Usually word gets out, but it's been really quite.
This is a weird deal in Marion. If I were potential hire I would be cautious with this job. Lot of Coaches leaving Marion. I know new AD and Superintendent are in place. I have heard 3 guys that applied. All 3 would be great hires. They do not seem to be worried about time.
Although I'm sure they are just doing their due diligence.
Many applicants from Texas and Tennessee so they had to be checked out as far as teacher certification, etc. Not saying that's who will get it but an announcement will prob be made by the end of the week. The Marion assistant coaches are doing a great job with off-season, putting in a lot of time and work with the kids.
Quote from: Sporty on May 07, 2018, 09:01:15 am
What do you mean by this?
Nothing really. Just that's all we know about who. Nothing, no names, not even good rumor.
any news yet
done deal but school board has to approve
Quote from: Sporty on May 10, 2018, 11:22:54 am
done deal but school board has to approve
Is it N.V?
Is he from Eldo?
NV would make any school an excellent HFC
That's a top notch guy.
He would be an excellent hire!!! Problem is guys, the people around him tell me he hasn't heard anything.
Who have you heard Sporty?
Typical feet dragging by marion. I guess they didn't want a coach to direct spring practice
One thing for sure it has been quiet. No leaks. Wouldn't be the first time the guy thought to get the job didn't. Anybody hear any of the names of who they interviewed.
Heard that new supt. makes all athletic decisions
Quote from: Pantherdaddy on May 11, 2018, 06:23:41 am
Heard that new supt. makes all athletic decisions
I would if I was supt.
An athletic minded supt would have at least 5 names on his wish list PER sport. That way if a coach leaves he checks his list. This is a 6A Head Job. Supt must be prepared for this when the time comes.
:-[
The new hc, who was the dc at the school in Texas, is coming from a program that has gone 3-7 (gave up an ave of 36 ppg), 4-6, and 3-7 the last three years. The guy going to be dc is coming from a school that went 0-10 last year and 1-9 the year before. I would think there were candidates from Arkansas that had better resumes than that.
Quote from: PulltheTackle on May 14, 2018, 04:50:04 pm
The new hc, who was the dc at the school in Texas, is coming from a program that has gone 3-7 (gave up an ave of 36 ppg), 4-6, and 3-7 the last three years. The guy going to be dc is coming from a school that went 0-10 last year and 1-9 the year before. I would think there were candidates from Arkansas that had better resumes than that.
Whoa!! If that is indeed true it seems very odd. I'd have to see that confirmed to believe it. Of course schools have this thing about hiring Texas coaches.
Don't the Texas coaches lean toward the 3-4 and the spread?
Names? If this is a done deal then who are the new coaches?
It's kinda like reading an article on Yahoo then seeing it again on Fox News. Half facts, other half made up. Funny how one guy makes it sound too good to be true and the other lays out facts.
Class 2A Bulletin Board Material / Re: Clarendon Head Coach
« on: March 14, 2013, 09:50:27 pm »
Just because you are an assistant coach on a state championship team it doesn't necessarily mean you will be a great head coach. Just like being an assistant coach on a bad team doesn't mean you will be a bad head coach.
quote from Coach Davis--I mean pullthetackle
Quote from: Sporty on May 15, 2018, 11:27:28 am
Class 2A Bulletin Board Material / Re: Clarendon Head Coach
« on: March 14, 2013, 09:50:27 pm »
Just because you are an assistant coach on a state championship team it doesn't necessarily mean you will be a great head coach. Just like being an assistant coach on a bad team doesn't mean you will be a bad head coach.
quote from Coach Davis--I mean pullthetackle
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Class 2A Bulletin Board Material / Re: Clarendon Head Coach
« on: March 14, 2013, 09:50:27 pm »
Just because you are an assistant coach on a state championship team it doesn't necessarily mean you will be a great head coach. Just like being an assistant coach on a bad team doesn't mean you will be a bad head coach.
quote from Coach Davis--I mean pullthetackle
Funny! Some truth in it. Guys that did really well at one place have at times not been able to repeat that success at a different school, sometimes at the same school! Talent is what makes a good coach really good.
any updates?
Keith Houston from Chisholm Trail in Fort Worth. Several others coming with him.
Whats his story?
http://chisholmtrail.sidhelp.com/coachBio/2/9/1921.php
Looks like he's defensive minded played some safety and TE in college
Quote from: Made on May 18, 2018, 02:11:58 pm
http://chisholmtrail.sidhelp.com/coachBio/2/9/1921.php
Looks like he's defensive minded played some safety and TE in college
He better be because that has been a weak spot.
Houston is the HC, he played at OLE MISS. Does he have any head coach experience?
Quote from: footballfan-tastic on May 18, 2018, 09:09:25 am
Keith Houston from Chisholm Trail in Fort Worth. Several others coming with him.
He's bringing a staff?... For High school?..
What is his offense and defense formations
Quote from: ArkansasSportsFan on May 22, 2018, 09:38:39 am
He's bringing a staff?... For High school?..
4 total coaches.
ANOTHER out-of-state hire. Coaches who choose to stay in Arkansas and work their way into a Head Coach position are not given the real opportunity. First, in the late 1990's through 2004, old coaches would retire and then get rehired, allowing them to draw 2 checks. Now, Texans and Okies are flooding in. When an in-state coach is hired, the jobs for upward mobility open, like falling dominoes. School boards and key administrators are making shortsighted decisions. Most of these will bail out and return to the state from which they came at 1st chance.
Those that are doing the hiring are making a statement about the quality of Arkansas applicants. There have been a number of out of staters hired in the border towns it seems.
Curious question. Are we seeing more administrative positions going to out of state applicants as well?
I think you can get on the Marion School District facebook page and see the introduction and Q and A of the new staff. I understand they answered questions about what O/D they will be running.
Watched the introduction of new staff, seem like a decent set of guys. Talked about role models and high character. Coaching wise seems as many unanswered questions as answered. It depends on what the talent pool provides.
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Re: Marion Open
« Reply #95 on: May 14, 2018, 06:32:28 pm »
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Quote from: PulltheTackle on May 14, 2018, 04:50:04 pm
The new hc, who was the dc at the school in Texas, is coming from a program that has gone 3-7 (gave up an ave of 36 ppg), 4-6, and 3-7 the last three years. The guy going to be dc is coming from a school that went 0-10 last year and 1-9 the year before. I would think there were candidates from Arkansas that had better resumes than that.
Whoa!! If that is indeed true it seems very odd. I'd have to see that confirmed to believe it. Of course schools have this thing about hiring Texas coaches.
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Well I guess I see it and now believe it. Still seems odd.
1 problem with not hiring Arkansas Football Coaches is the out-of-state hires prevent the "dominoes from falling" in relation to coaching jobs/opportunities for the loyal Assistant Coaches who teach 3 to 6 classes a day These coaches who have prepared themselves to move up are not getting the chance. This is shortsighted on the part of the school administrators and school boards.
My question is why this guy or guys over Arkansas applicants. There was an early post of 3 highly touted south Arkansas apps.
Even stranger considering how this coaching staff keeps getting poached, the latest courtesy of Paris.
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Strange that so many have left and as strange that many have landed HC jobs with limited success. I reckon Marion will be hiring another coach to replace the one that went to Paris? Hows the new staff working with the kids. Any camp or 7 on 7 results yet?
Their OC from last year just left as well and became the head baseball coach and assistant for the high school football staff at Riverview...interesting. Seems like they had some good coaches on the previous staff.
So are any of the old staff left? I don't know how good the old coaches were or are, they didn't do anything really impressive at Marion but they had been around for a while at some other places. But then, I'm not sure how impressive the records of the new guys are. How are workouts going for Marion?
How is the summer going for the Pats? Haven't seen much about the team development since the new hires.
I know they didn't lose much from last year and I've seen where two of their defensive players have D-1 offers. That Switzer kid was offered by A-State not too long ago. They probably will be better regardless of who is coaching them. They also looked a lot bigger/better up front in the spring game than from years past.
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Wynne, West Memphis, Pine Bluff and Jonesboro are the tougher games on the schedule. They should be able to go 6-4 in the regular season and 4-3 in conference play, then have a tough playoff game if they finish 4th. With all the hype over the new coaches I think fans are going to expect at least a 6-4 season. I didn't see a tune up game for the preseason so they may not get a chance to gauge their chances until Wynne.
New staff, new O/D, new season but not much coming out of the patriot nation.
Good win for the Pats. Kids were able to rise to the finish and claim the win.
A second close win at the wire. Kids playing hard it seems.
Three nail-biters in a row. Can't play em much closer. Next week we see if they really are that good!
Gotta give Marion a little credit it's always good to go unbeaten in non conference. Curious if they're still in the same system or not? Last year their quarterback proved to be a stud... not sure if he was a senior or not but it'd be fine with me if he was lol
Two 3-0 teams five miles apart you can't beat it... game should be packed as usual :)
How they do against WM will tell where they are for sure.
I'd say BlueDevils, by 3 scores.
And the Pats keep rolling along. All close but mostly wins.