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My Take 2014: 8-4A

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whippersnapper

June 27, 2014, 05:50:03 pm Last Edit: June 27, 2014, 09:52:25 pm by whippersnapper
Well here is my final conference, the 8-4A.
1:1 (#1 Fearless) Warren: The Jacks finished last year in War Memorial which was expected by most. I don't see much difference from last year. I think they finish 7-3 regular season again. But I think one of those losses are a conference game. I am predicting a 3 way tie for conference this year. With that one loss bein @ Dollarway week 9. Final record 10-4 semifinals.
2:3 (#6 Fearless) Dollarway: Great year for the Cardinals at13-1. I really thought they would play for state. They lose more then  Liddell to graduation and must replace a lot of skill players. This will be one of the 3 teams to tie for conference losing at SC week 8. Finish the year 9-3 2nd round
3:6 (#2 Fearless) Star City:The bulldogs are the final team to tie for the conference. The next 2 years should be really fun in SC. I think this team makes it all the way to War Memorial to finish the year. I will predict the bulldogs as 12-2 semifinals for now just because I am not predicting state and the runner up till its time.
4:9 (#10 Fearless) Hamburg: Just as things seem to finally be going up for the Lions Coach Cox goes to Fairview. But I don't think the year is a total loss for the lions. They finish the year 6-6 2nd round.
5:24 Monticello: The Billies are missing Coach Pascal and it shows. 2-8
6:29 Dumas:I would think the addition of Gragg that would at least get the Bobcats in the playoffs again. 4-7 1ST round
7:33 DeWitt: The strength of non conference schedule will show. 2-8 for the slowly improving dragons
8:38 Crossett: 1-9 for the eagles

CounterPunch

Interesting. A 3 way tie is very possible this year.

rdhill

Quote from: whippersnapper on June 27, 2014, 05:50:03 pm
Well here is my final conference, the 8-4A.
1:1 (#1 Fearless) Warren: The Jacks finished last year in War Memorial which was expected by most. I don't see much difference from last year. I think they finish 7-3 regular season again. But I think one of those losses are a conference game. I am predicting a 3 way tie for conference this year. With that one loss bein @ Dollarway week 9. Final record 10-4 semifinals.
2:3 (#6 Fearless) Dollarway: Great year for the Cardinals at13-1. I really thought they would play for state. They lose more the  Liddell to graduation and must replace a lot of skill players. This will be one of the 3 teams to tie for conference losing at SC week 8. Finish the year 9-3 2nd round
3:6 (#2 Fearless) Star City:The bulldogs are the final team to tie for the conference. The next 2 years should be really fun in SC. I think this team makes it all the way to War Memorial to finish the year. I will predict the bulldogs as 12-2 semifinals for now just because I am not predicting state and the runner up till its time.
4:9 (#10 Fearless) Hamburg: Just as things seem to finally be going up for the Lions Coach Cox goes to Fairview. But I don't think the year is a total loss for the lions. They finish the year 6-6 2nd round.
5:24 Monticello: The Billies are missing Coach Pascal and it shows. 2-8
6:29 Dumas:I would think the addition of Gragg that would at least get the Bobcats in the playoffs again. 4-7 1ST round
7:33 DeWitt: The strength of non conference schedule will show. 2-8 for the slowly improving dragons
8:38 Crossett: 1-9 for the eagles
Glad for the disrespect the Lions will finish in top three in 84a,We much like SC or in a upswing in talent.75 to 80 players taking part in summer conditioning . Dont think for a minute we hired a joke of a coach he is the real deal.

AirWarren

There were 80 players last year. I only counted maybe 45 in the actual game I saw hamburg in.

CounterPunch

Quote from: rdhill on June 27, 2014, 09:53:30 pm
Quote from: whippersnapper on June 27, 2014, 05:50:03 pm
Well here is my final conference, the 8-4A.
1:1 (#1 Fearless) Warren: The Jacks finished last year in War Memorial which was expected by most. I don't see much difference from last year. I think they finish 7-3 regular season again. But I think one of those losses are a conference game. I am predicting a 3 way tie for conference this year. With that one loss bein @ Dollarway week 9. Final record 10-4 semifinals.
2:3 (#6 Fearless) Dollarway: Great year for the Cardinals at13-1. I really thought they would play for state. They lose more the  Liddell to graduation and must replace a lot of skill players. This will be one of the 3 teams to tie for conference losing at SC week 8. Finish the year 9-3 2nd round
3:6 (#2 Fearless) Star City:The bulldogs are the final team to tie for the conference. The next 2 years should be really fun in SC. I think this team makes it all the way to War Memorial to finish the year. I will predict the bulldogs as 12-2 semifinals for now just because I am not predicting state and the runner up till its time.
4:9 (#10 Fearless) Hamburg: Just as things seem to finally be going up for the Lions Coach Cox goes to Fairview. But I don't think the year is a total loss for the lions. They finish the year 6-6 2nd round.
5:24 Monticello: The Billies are missing Coach Pascal and it shows. 2-8
6:29 Dumas:I would think the addition of Gragg that would at least get the Bobcats in the playoffs again. 4-7 1ST round
7:33 DeWitt: The strength of non conference schedule will show. 2-8 for the slowly improving dragons
8:38 Crossett: 1-9 for the eagles
Glad for the disrespect the Lions will finish in top three in 84a,We much like SC or in a upswing in talent.75 to 80 players taking part in summer conditioning . Dont think for a minute we hired a joke of a coach he is the real deal.
80 players. Too bad only 11 can play at one time.

rdhill

June 27, 2014, 10:19:55 pm #5 Last Edit: June 27, 2014, 10:36:29 pm by rdhill
Quote from: AirWarren on June 27, 2014, 09:57:50 pm
There were 80 players last year. I only counted maybe 45 in the actual game I saw hamburg in.
You need to learn to count were you at a game? we had over 60 by the time we played Warren  jr.high had moved up,Large sophmore  class 30 plus.

rdhill

My prediction for 84a
1 Warren
2 PB Dollerway
3 Hamburg
4 SC
5 Crossett
6 Dumas
7 Dewitt
8 Monticello

CounterPunch

Quote from: rdhill on June 27, 2014, 10:42:17 pm
My prediction for 84a
1 Warren
2 PB Dollerway
3 Hamburg
4 SC
5 Crossett
6 Dumas
7 Dewitt
8 Monticello
you are the only person in the world with that prediction. The payoff should be big.

Big Fan

Quote from: rdhill on June 27, 2014, 10:42:17 pm
My prediction for 84a
1 Warren
2 PB Dollerway
3 Hamburg
4 SC
5 Crossett
6 Dumas
7 Dewitt
8 Monticello
This is what drinking and typing looks like. 

cuckoobird

Quote from: rdhill on June 27, 2014, 10:19:55 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on June 27, 2014, 09:57:50 pm
There were 80 players last year. I only counted maybe 45 in the actual game I saw hamburg in.
You need to learn to count were you at a game? we had over 60 by the time we played Warren  jr.high had moved up,Large sophmore  class 30 plus.
doubtful he was there. Probably watched from his computer

mossflyer

I could definitely see a tie of some sort at the top of this conference.  During this cycle, it definitely looks like you have 3 of the top teams in 4A coming out of the 8-4A.  Here's my prediction.  Conference records in parentheses. 

1.  Star City (6-1) Loss to Warren
2.  Dollarway (6-1) Loss to SC
3.  Warren (5-2) Loss to Hamburg and Dollarway
4.  Hamburg (4-3)
5.  Monticello (3-4)
6.  Dewitt (3-4)
7.  Dumas (1-6)
8.  Crossett (0-7)

LJ06

Quote from: cuckoobird on June 28, 2014, 08:00:59 am
Quote from: rdhill on June 27, 2014, 10:19:55 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on June 27, 2014, 09:57:50 pm
There were 80 players last year. I only counted maybe 45 in the actual game I saw hamburg in.
You need to learn to count were you at a game? we had over 60 by the time we played Warren  jr.high had moved up,Large sophmore  class 30 plus.
doubtful he was there. Probably watched from his computer

And here we go

LJ06

Quote from: whippersnapper on June 27, 2014, 05:50:03 pm
Well here is my final conference, the 8-4A.
1:1 (#1 Fearless) Warren: The Jacks finished last year in War Memorial which was expected by most. I don't see much difference from last year. I think they finish 7-3 regular season again. But I think one of those losses are a conference game. I am predicting a 3 way tie for conference this year. With that one loss bein @ Dollarway week 9. Final record 10-4 semifinals.
2:3 (#6 Fearless) Dollarway: Great year for the Cardinals at13-1. I really thought they would play for state. They lose more then  Liddell to graduation and must replace a lot of skill players. This will be one of the 3 teams to tie for conference losing at SC week 8. Finish the year 9-3 2nd round
3:6 (#2 Fearless) Star City:The bulldogs are the final team to tie for the conference. The next 2 years should be really fun in SC. I think this team makes it all the way to War Memorial to finish the year. I will predict the bulldogs as 12-2 semifinals for now just because I am not predicting state and the runner up till its time.
4:9 (#10 Fearless) Hamburg: Just as things seem to finally be going up for the Lions Coach Cox goes to Fairview. But I don't think the year is a total loss for the lions. They finish the year 6-6 2nd round.
5:24 Monticello: The Billies are missing Coach Pascal and it shows. 2-8
6:29 Dumas:I would think the addition of Gragg that would at least get the Bobcats in the playoffs again. 4-7 1ST round
7:33 DeWitt: The strength of non conference schedule will show. 2-8 for the slowly improving dragons
8:38 Crossett: 1-9 for the eagles

Solid analysis +1

AirWarren

Quote from: LJ06 on June 28, 2014, 06:33:18 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on June 28, 2014, 08:00:59 am
Quote from: rdhill on June 27, 2014, 10:19:55 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on June 27, 2014, 09:57:50 pm
There were 80 players last year. I only counted maybe 45 in the actual game I saw hamburg in.
You need to learn to count were you at a game? we had over 60 by the time we played Warren  jr.high had moved up,Large sophmore  class 30 plus.
doubtful he was there. Probably watched from his computer

And here we go

The stupid ones can't help themselves.

Romeo

Has Hamburg hired a new coach?

CounterPunch

Apparently. RD said he was the "real deal"

Big Fan

Quote from: CounterPunch on June 28, 2014, 08:06:30 pm
Apparently. RD said he was the "real deal"
Was he drinking and fighting with the ex? 

rdhill

Quote from: Big Fan on June 28, 2014, 10:56:59 pm
Quote from: CounterPunch on June 28, 2014, 08:06:30 pm
Apparently. RD said he was the "real deal"
Was he drinking and fighting with the ex?
is that the best you got jerk? We hired a coach not appointed one.

Big Fan

Quote from: rdhill on June 29, 2014, 08:51:21 pm
Quote from: Big Fan on June 28, 2014, 10:56:59 pm
Quote from: CounterPunch on June 28, 2014, 08:06:30 pm
Apparently. RD said he was the "real deal"
Was he drinking and fighting with the ex?
is that the best you got jerk? We hired a coach not appointed one.
It was a joke.  You need to learn to relax.  You take this message board thing a little too serious.  lol

Superjack45

Now Now you gotta look over BF he doesn't know any better.

rdhill

Quote from: Superjack45 on June 29, 2014, 09:38:27 pm
Now Now you gotta look over BF he doesn't know any better.
I sorry that i am to uptight i just lost my train of thoght,Miranda Lambert popped up on my screen.

cuckoobird

Youre a simple man if she does that to you

Big Fan

Quote from: rdhill on June 29, 2014, 09:47:18 pm
Quote from: Superjack45 on June 29, 2014, 09:38:27 pm
Now Now you gotta look over BF he doesn't know any better.
I sorry that i am to uptight i just lost my train of thoght,Miranda Lambert popped up on my screen.
Quote from: cuckoobird on June 30, 2014, 06:40:45 am
Youre a simple man if she does that to you


cuckoobird

Quote from: Big Fan on June 30, 2014, 07:35:54 am
Quote from: rdhill on June 29, 2014, 09:47:18 pm
Quote from: Superjack45 on June 29, 2014, 09:38:27 pm
Now Now you gotta look over BF he doesn't know any better.
I sorry that i am to uptight i just lost my train of thoght,Miranda Lambert popped up on my screen.
Quote from: cuckoobird on June 30, 2014, 06:40:45 am
Youre a simple man if she does that to you

excuse me.... simple "minded" man

rdhill

Seen Lynard live after crash,Jackson,MS when they did simple man it was just the band playin with bandanna around mic stand gave me goose bumps.

Big Fan


Jimbo Morphis


Big Fan


rattler33

man I bet yall are glad the the bearcats moved to 3a after going 0-4 against the bearcats last year.

SUGARTOWN

Quote from: rattler33 on July 01, 2014, 05:54:13 pm
man I bet yall are glad the the bearcats moved to 3a after going 0-4 against the bearcats last year.

I believe it was 0-3. Dollarway was in the 2-4A last year.

rdhill

Quote from: Big Fan on June 30, 2014, 11:03:43 pm
Quote from: rdhill on June 30, 2014, 09:53:46 pm
Seen Lynard live after crash
Showing your age.
Shows nothing about my age I saw them with zztop ,but have also seen Slipknot,FFDP.

cuckoobird

Quote from: rdhill on July 01, 2014, 10:47:24 pm
Quote from: Big Fan on June 30, 2014, 11:03:43 pm
Quote from: rdhill on June 30, 2014, 09:53:46 pm
Seen Lynard live after crash
Showing your age.
Shows nothing about my age I saw them with zztop ,but have also seen Slipknot,FFDP.
ZZ hasn't had a hit since........well I'm old and can't even remember

GuvHog

Since Drew Central started it's football program the Monticello Billies have been hurting for talent. Those high powered "Blue Steel" defenses of the 90's are a thing of the past.

Big Fan

July 05, 2014, 01:48:21 pm #33 Last Edit: July 05, 2014, 02:11:36 pm by Big Fan
Quote from: GuvHog on July 05, 2014, 12:46:43 pm
Since Drew Central started it's football program the Monticello Billies have been hurting for talent.
The start of DC's program in '08 severely crippled our talent level for 3 years ('08-'10).  We were only able to go 32-7 with only one state championship during that three year stretch. Starting in 2011 the talent really began to flee to DC and help them to a 32 game losing streak.  I miss the days of 2003 (3-7) when we were not sharing talent with DC. 

Once again Guv, you have proved your level of Arkansas High School Football knowledge. 

Jimbo Morphis

Quote from: GuvHog on July 05, 2014, 12:46:43 pm
Since Drew Central started it's football program the Monticello Billies have been hurting for talent. Those high powered "Blue Steel" defenses of the 90's are a thing of the past.
sigh

Razorhummer

I wouldn't rule out Star City but I really think it's going to all come down to the Warren/Dollarway game who wins the 8-4A.

LJ06

Quote from: Razorhummer on July 06, 2014, 12:52:22 am
I wouldn't rule out Star City but I really think it's going to all come down to the Warren/Dollarway game who wins the 8-4A.

Captain obvious

CounterPunch

Quote from: LJ06 on July 06, 2014, 08:08:18 am
Quote from: Razorhummer on July 06, 2014, 12:52:22 am
I wouldn't rule out Star City but I really think it's going to all come down to the Warren/Dollarway game who wins the 8-4A.

Captain obvious
dollarway will be 3rd or 4th. They can't possibly be good 2 years in a row. We have to remember who we are talking about here. It will be between SC and Warren. You might even see them both in War Memorial if the bracket falls right.

Razorhummer

Quote from: LJ06 on July 06, 2014, 08:08:18 am
Quote from: Razorhummer on July 06, 2014, 12:52:22 am
I wouldn't rule out Star City but I really think it's going to all come down to the Warren/Dollarway game who wins the 8-4A.

Captain obvious
Lol exactly! ;D

zebradynasty

Quote from: CounterPunch on July 06, 2014, 10:22:55 pm

dollarway will be 3rd or 4th. They can't possibly be good 2 years in a row. We have to remember who we are talking about here. It will be between SC and Warren. You might even see them both in War Memorial if the bracket falls right.

So your winning is based upon Dollarway not being good 2 years in row ??? Well there is some merit to that because actually Dollarway has won 10 or more games 3 years in a row! So 4 would be pretty tough BUT with 11 starters back they're not exactly rebuilding either! With most of the linemen returning it will boil down to a lack of scheme that will stop them and NOT SC!

cuckoobird

Quote from: zebradynasty on July 07, 2014, 10:19:26 am
Quote from: CounterPunch on July 06, 2014, 10:22:55 pm

dollarway will be 3rd or 4th. They can't possibly be good 2 years in a row. We have to remember who we are talking about here. It will be between SC and Warren. You might even see them both in War Memorial if the bracket falls right.

So your winning is based upon Dollarway not being good 2 years in row ??? Well there is some merit to that because actually Dollarway has won 10 or more games 3 years in a row! So 4 would be pretty tough BUT with 11 starters back they're not exactly rebuilding either! With most of the linemen returning it will boil down to a lack of scheme that will stop them and NOT SC!
Honestly it's always a lack of scheme that stops them. They usually have superior athletes

Jack1990

Quote from: cuckoobird on July 07, 2014, 10:44:18 am
Quote from: zebradynasty on July 07, 2014, 10:19:26 am
Quote from: CounterPunch on July 06, 2014, 10:22:55 pm

dollarway will be 3rd or 4th. They can't possibly be good 2 years in a row. We have to remember who we are talking about here. It will be between SC and Warren. You might even see them both in War Memorial if the bracket falls right.

So your winning is based upon Dollarway not being good 2 years in row ??? Well there is some merit to that because actually Dollarway has won 10 or more games 3 years in a row! So 4 would be pretty tough BUT with 11 starters back they're not exactly rebuilding either! With most of the linemen returning it will boil down to a lack of scheme that will stop them and NOT SC!
Honestly it's always a lack of scheme that stops them. They usually have superior athletes
I don't know if it's as much of a lack of scheme as it is a lack of discipline.  And I mean discipline from top down.  Can't count the nuimber of times I've seen Dollarway players completely lose control on the field/sideline and the staff do nothing about it. 

zebradynasty

July 07, 2014, 10:59:00 am #42 Last Edit: July 07, 2014, 11:03:08 am by zebradynasty
Quote from: Jack1990 on July 07, 2014, 10:47:17 am

I don't know if it's as much of a lack of scheme as it is a lack of discipline.  And I mean discipline from top down.  Can't count the nuimber of times I've seen Dollarway players completely lose control on the field/sideline and the staff do nothing about it. 

For most teams I would agree but Dollarway is one of those teams that can thrive in chaos. It's especially true if they have an on the field leader.   

Jack1990

Quote from: zebradynasty on July 07, 2014, 10:59:00 am
Quote from: Jack1990 on July 07, 2014, 10:47:17 am

I don't know if it's as much of a lack of scheme as it is a lack of discipline.  And I mean discipline from top down.  Can't count the nuimber of times I've seen Dollarway players completely lose control on the field/sideline and the staff do nothing about it. 

For most teams I would agree but Dollarway is one of those teams that can thrive in chaos. It's especially true if they have an on the field leader.
I can't argue with your view.  That scenario does work for them.  Past success shows that.

Bulldog92

I agree with what you posted Zebra, if Dollarway has another Lidell then they will be as tough as they were last year.  Although a school in Southeast Ar turning out SEC caliber athletes at the quarterback position in back to back years doesn't happen very often, if ever. The top four in this conference will be as tough as most of the other 4-A conference champs.  It is going to be a fun year in the 8-4A, especially on Fearless Friday!!! 

cuckoobird

I believe lidell was recruited as a dback who just happened to play QB. Although he has more natural talent than any allen bro

hawgfan15

Liddell is going to play safety at Arkansas and could see the field early. Joshua Liddell's don't come around very often, even at dollarway.

QB was never an option for him at the D1 level. He was an average passer in HS but always a running threat with the ball in his hands.

WR Henri Murphy and RB Keyshawn Williams are big time playmakers that return for the Cardinals. I will be really surprised if they don't finish in the top 2 of 8-4A. They will be higher in my next poll. Top 3

SUGARTOWN

The winner of this conference goes to War Memorial IMO. The winner may be determined by tie breakers as the top 3 will probably beat up on each other. The only caveat is that conference play may take a toll on these teams and injuries could mount up and have an major impact come playoff time.

Star City: my pick to win the conference, tons of experience coming back, good QB, solid line play, made a nice run in the playoffs last year. That can only help come playoff time this season.

Warren: replacing Drake Jones will be tougher than some think, I think they need to run with Cox to set up the pass this year. Plenty of athletes, but if you can't get them the ball then a conference loss or two could materialize.

Dollarway: Plenty of speed and skill position players, if they can find someone to adequately run their offense they have the capability to beat anyone. Then again they just may show up flat one night and lose a game they should win.

Hamburg: new coach, still waiting on them to show the promise we've heard about the last couple of years. I'm not a believer yet.

My pick to win the 8-4A...Star City.

hawgfan15

I agree with you that the winner of the conference will play at War Memorial. I think a three way tie is more likely than an undefeated conference champ. There will be some good football played in 8-4A this year.

phdefense

One change I think the 4A-8 might notice about the Dollarway that the 4A-2 returned to them is that they are not the slow starters that they use to be.

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