FF Pre-Season 4A Top Ten

[Jimbo Morphis]

AW I am not going to get into with you over this but I looked at my Official Program from WMS and counted the returning players not the starters for Bville. Thanks for the back up though,I know you ment well and since you played at Warren I will look over it.Lol!!! Yes they still will be tough with that offense for sure.

soooooo if you played at warren you can't disagree with another warren poster? one problem, a.w. didn't play.

[AirWarren]

You are correct oldman.

[Jimbo Morphis]

You are correct oldman.

help me out aw, watched my first soccer-futbol game yesterday. how and why does an official add time to the end of a game? can't imagine this happening in a sec football game. there would be riots.

[Superjack45]

You are correct oldman.

AW man I thought you were a player no pun intended,all this time I was thinking you played for ole' Bo.

[AirWarren]

You are correct oldman.

help me out aw, watched my first soccer-futbol game yesterday. how and why does an official add time to the end of a game? can't imagine this happening in a sec football game. there would be riots.

Stoppage time is due to fights, injuries, match restarts from officials, and field(the pitch) invasions such as streakers, intoxicated fans etc. The ref has the final say and the players play to the whistle blows. It's always added after the 90 minutes is up. Some matches have no stoppage time but very rarely. There may be 5 minutes added but players keep playing until they blow the whistle because the ref has the final say.

And yes it would cause riots in the SEC. However, it would make it interesting for all these teams that fake injuries to slow down the game. I promise you it would stop all that crap if the ref added time to a game.

[Jimbo Morphis]

You are correct oldman.

help me out aw, watched my first soccer-futbol game yesterday. how and why does an official add time to the end of a game? can't imagine this happening in a sec football game. there would be riots.

Stoppage time is due to fights, injuries, match restarts from officials, and field(the pitch) invasions such as streakers, intoxicated fans etc. The ref has the final say and the players play to the whistle blows. It's always added after the 90 minutes is up. Some matches have no stoppage time but very rarely. There may be 5 minutes added but players keep playing until they blow the whistle because the ref has the final say.

And yes it would cause riots in the SEC. However, it would make it interesting for all these teams that fake injuries to slow down the game. I promise you it would stop all that crap if the ref added time to a game.

wouldn't it be easier to just stop the clock so everyone knows?

[cuckoobird]

You are correct oldman.

help me out aw, watched my first soccer-futbol game yesterday. how and why does an official add time to the end of a game? can't imagine this happening in a sec football game. there would be riots.

Stoppage time is due to fights, injuries, match restarts from officials, and field(the pitch) invasions such as streakers, intoxicated fans etc. The ref has the final say and the players play to the whistle blows. It's always added after the 90 minutes is up. Some matches have no stoppage time but very rarely. There may be 5 minutes added but players keep playing until they blow the whistle because the ref has the final say.

And yes it would cause riots in the SEC. However, it would make it interesting for all these teams that fake injuries to slow down the game. I promise you it would stop all that crap if the ref added time to a game.

wouldn't it be easier to just stop the clock so everyone knows?

that would make sense and nothing about futbol makes sense

[AirWarren]

You are correct oldman.

help me out aw, watched my first soccer-futbol game yesterday. how and why does an official add time to the end of a game? can't imagine this happening in a sec football game. there would be riots.

Stoppage time is due to fights, injuries, match restarts from officials, and field(the pitch) invasions such as streakers, intoxicated fans etc. The ref has the final say and the players play to the whistle blows. It's always added after the 90 minutes is up. Some matches have no stoppage time but very rarely. There may be 5 minutes added but players keep playing until they blow the whistle because the ref has the final say.

And yes it would cause riots in the SEC. However, it would make it interesting for all these teams that fake injuries to slow down the game. I promise you it would stop all that crap if the ref added time to a game.

wouldn't it be easier to just stop the clock so everyone knows?

Nope. You play 90 minutes with a 20 minute halftime. Straight. No water breaks, no timeouts just constant running up and down the field until the ref blows the whistle.
I don't care who you are, that's 100 yards of running back and forth especially if you're a striker. That takes some stamina. It's just different rules in a different sport. It's fun to me and I have enjoyed seeing the 20000+ Americans there supporting the guys.

Several of the crybaby teams tried to get water breaks allowed in the cup but FIFA denied it.

[cuckoobird]

You are correct oldman.

help me out aw, watched my first soccer-futbol game yesterday. how and why does an official add time to the end of a game? can't imagine this happening in a sec football game. there would be riots.

Stoppage time is due to fights, injuries, match restarts from officials, and field(the pitch) invasions such as streakers, intoxicated fans etc. The ref has the final say and the players play to the whistle blows. It's always added after the 90 minutes is up. Some matches have no stoppage time but very rarely. There may be 5 minutes added but players keep playing until they blow the whistle because the ref has the final say.

And yes it would cause riots in the SEC. However, it would make it interesting for all these teams that fake injuries to slow down the game. I promise you it would stop all that crap if the ref added time to a game.

wouldn't it be easier to just stop the clock so everyone knows?

Nope. You play 90 minutes with a 20 minute halftime. Straight. No water breaks, no timeouts just constant running up and down the field until the ref blows the whistle.
I don't care who you are, that's 100 yards of running back and forth especially if you're a striker. That takes some stamina. It's just different rules in a different sport. It's fun to me and I have enjoyed seeing the 20000+ Americans there supporting the guys.

Several of the crybaby teams tried to get water breaks allowed in the cup but FIFA denied it.

I agree no breaks but constant running...... no, they jog and walk around a lot

[Jimbo Morphis]

they took a water break in the us game yesterday.

[cuckoobird]

they took a water break in the us game yesterday.

I would compare it to two teams who both run the hunh playing against each other. then I'm not sure if soccer runs as much as they would

[AirWarren]

they took a water break in the us game yesterday.

The whole team? Was it because of an injury on the field?

[AirWarren]

they took a water break in the us game yesterday.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2106115-twitter-reacts-to-water-break-during-usa-vs-portugal-2014-world-cup-match

First ever in World Cup history.

The 2022 world cup is scheduled to be played in Qatar. Temps get up to 130 HA. There is a push to move it to the United States though.

[hawgfan15]

they took a water break in the us game yesterday.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2106115-twitter-reacts-to-water-break-during-usa-vs-portugal-2014-world-cup-match

First ever in World Cup history.

The 2022 world cup is scheduled to be played in Qatar. Temps get up to 130 HA. There is a push to move it to the United States though.

Yeah no way it's held at Qatar in 2022 lol that would be outrageous

[AirWarren]

they took a water break in the us game yesterday.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2106115-twitter-reacts-to-water-break-during-usa-vs-portugal-2014-world-cup-match

First ever in World Cup history.

The 2022 world cup is scheduled to be played in Qatar. Temps get up to 130 HA. There is a push to move it to the United States though.

Yeah no way it's held at Qatar in 2022 lol that would be outrageous

Suicide. HAha.

[hawgfan15]

they took a water break in the us game yesterday.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2106115-twitter-reacts-to-water-break-during-usa-vs-portugal-2014-world-cup-match

First ever in World Cup history.

The 2022 world cup is scheduled to be played in Qatar. Temps get up to 130 HA. There is a push to move it to the United States though.

Yeah no way it's held at Qatar in 2022 lol that would be outrageous

Suicide. HAha.

Lol exactly

[CounterPunch]

All this talk about "futbol" (soccer) is making my stomach hurt. This is a football board where men come to talk about manly things such as "American football". Stop this madness!

[SUGARTOWN]

IF and that's a big if, they play the 2022 World Cup in Qatar it will be played in the winter to avoid 120+ temps.

And in reference to Oldman's question, yes it would be much easier to actually stop the clock, restart it and just play to 90 minutes. There's no rational reason to do it they way they do. There was a study that showed that there was more stoppage time added when the favorite was losing...just like yesterday when stoppage time was announced at 4 minutes, then changed to 5 when the last U.S. sub apparently got off the field "too slow". We all know what happened in the final minute. Soccer is more corrupt than any other sport out there.

[AirWarren]

All this talk about "futbol" (soccer) is making my stomach hurt. This is a football board where men come to talk about manly things such as "American football". Stop this madness!

What else do you want to talk about? Slow sports season right now. It's the only exciting thing happening in sports right now.

[Jimbo Morphis]

IF and that's a big if, they play the 2022 World Cup in Qatar it will be played in the winter to avoid 120+ temps.

And in reference to Oldman's question, yes it would be much easier to actually stop the clock, restart it and just play to 90 minutes. There's no rational reason to do it they way they do. There was a study that showed that there was more stoppage time added when the favorite was losing...just like yesterday when stoppage time was announced at 4 minutes, then changed to 5 when the last U.S. sub apparently got off the field "too slow". We all know what happened in the final minute. Soccer is more corrupt than any other sport out there.

can you imagine an alabama-auburn game at bama and the official adding 5 minutes so auburn could come back and win?

[Big Fan]

IF and that's a big if, they play the 2022 World Cup in Qatar it will be played in the winter to avoid 120+ temps.

They have winter in Qatar?

[SUGARTOWN]

Oldman, now you know why soccer fans riot so much...

[SUGARTOWN]

IF and that's a big if, they play the 2022 World Cup in Qatar it will be played in the winter to avoid 120+ temps.

They have winter in Qatar?

Yeah, I think it's 90 degrees instead of 120.

[cuckoobird]

IF and that's a big if, they play the 2022 World Cup in Qatar it will be played in the winter to avoid 120+ temps.

And in reference to Oldman's question, yes it would be much easier to actually stop the clock, restart it and just play to 90 minutes. There's no rational reason to do it they way they do. There was a study that showed that there was more stoppage time added when the favorite was losing...just like yesterday when stoppage time was announced at 4 minutes, then changed to 5 when the last U.S. sub apparently got off the field "too slow". We all know what happened in the final minute. Soccer is more corrupt than any other sport out there.

That was just my thought, that a corrupt official could easily change the outcome of a game.

[CounterPunch]

All this talk about "futbol" (soccer) is making my stomach hurt. This is a football board where men come to talk about manly things such as "American football". Stop this madness!

What else do you want to talk about? Slow sports season right now. It's the only exciting thing happening in sports right now.

I'd rather talk about tennis.

[cuckoobird]

All this talk about "futbol" (soccer) is making my stomach hurt. This is a football board where men come to talk about manly things such as "American football". Stop this madness!

What else do you want to talk about? Slow sports season right now. It's the only exciting thing happening in sports right now.

I'd rather talk about tennis.

Women's tennis I'm assuming since there aren't any real men athletes in Star City

[AirWarren]

All this talk about "futbol" (soccer) is making my stomach hurt. This is a football board where men come to talk about manly things such as "American football". Stop this madness!

What else do you want to talk about? Slow sports season right now. It's the only exciting thing happening in sports right now.

I'd rather talk about tennis.

Talk about it then. I can join in.

[Jimbo Morphis]

after watching michelle wie putt yesterday i am now a women's golf fan.

[cuckoobird]

after watching michelle wie putt yesterday i am now a women's golf fan.

I bet

[CounterPunch]

All this talk about "futbol" (soccer) is making my stomach hurt. This is a football board where men come to talk about manly things such as "American football". Stop this madness!

What else do you want to talk about? Slow sports season right now. It's the only exciting thing happening in sports right now.

I'd rather talk about tennis.

Women's tennis I'm assuming since there aren't any real men athletes in Star City

we would beat Marianna though.

[Superjack45]

IF and that's a big if, they play the 2022 World Cup in Qatar it will be played in the winter to avoid 120+ temps.

They have winter in Qatar?

Yeah, I think it's 90 degrees instead of 120.

I have been there and yes it does get cold there but nothing like a Minnesota or Chicago type weather.

[Romeo]

I just watched highlights of Michelle Wie putting at the U.S. Open. I think I'm going to start watching more women's golf as well.

[rdhill]

I just watched highlights of Michelle Wie putting at the U.S. Open. I think I'm going to start watching more women's golf as well.

Number 1 in the world played at the U of A. Just throwin that out there.

[Jacketman65]

I just watched highlights of Michelle Wie putting at the U.S. Open. I think I'm going to start watching more women's golf as well.

Number 1 in the world played at the U of A. Just throwin that out there.

Michelle looks better!  What is the deal with all of the tape on her legs though?

[rdhill]

I just watched highlights of Michelle Wie putting at the U.S. Open. I think I'm going to start watching more women's golf as well.

Number 1 in the world played at the U of A. Just throwin that out there.

Michelle looks better!  What is the deal with all of the tape on her legs though?

Yea Stacey is hot but Wie is smokin hot. That said Stacey is better by far.

[cuckoobird]

I just watched highlights of Michelle Wie putting at the U.S. Open. I think I'm going to start watching more women's golf as well.

Number 1 in the world played at the U of A. Just throwin that out there.

Michelle looks better!  What is the deal with all of the tape on her legs though?

The "tape," are basically sticky braces instead of the old bulky ones.

[cuckoobird]

All this talk about "futbol" (soccer) is making my stomach hurt. This is a football board where men come to talk about manly things such as "American football". Stop this madness!

What else do you want to talk about? Slow sports season right now. It's the only exciting thing happening in sports right now.

I'd rather talk about tennis.

Women's tennis I'm assuming since there aren't any real men athletes in Star City

we would beat Marianna though.

in girls basketball?

[Jimbo Morphis]

I just watched highlights of Michelle Wie putting at the U.S. Open. I think I'm going to start watching more women's golf as well.

Number 1 in the world played at the U of A. Just throwin that out there.

thats why i started watching it.

[CounterPunch]

Happy birthday to Zack Towers. Today he turns 20.

[AirWarren]

Happy birthday to Zack Towers. Today he turns 20.

Happy birthday brother. God speed Towers family.

[Razorhummer]

This year is advantage Newport. The last 4 years the home team has won this game. And back at the "new" legendary greyhound field. Also just a quick stat. These seniors for the hounds have only lost 1 home game the last 2 seasons.

Exactly and I remember in 2010 when Newport beat a very good Lonoke team that went on to play SC in WMS that year.

[phdefense]

This year is advantage Newport. The last 4 years the home team has won this game. And back at the "new" legendary greyhound field. Also just a quick stat. These seniors for the hounds have only lost 1 home game the last 2 seasons.

Exactly and I remember in 2009 when Newport beat a very good Lonoke team that went on to play SC in WMS that year.

FIFY

[TBone70]

THE TOP TEN


1. Warren Lumberjacks (9) - 294 ('13 Record 10-4, State Runner-Up, 8-4A Champs)
2. Star City Bulldogs (3) - 240 ('13 Record 9-4, Quarterfinalist)
3. Newport Greyhounds - 190 ('13 Record 9-3, 2nd Rounder)
4. Malvern Leopards (2) - 181 ('13 Record 9-3, 2nd Rounder)
5. Nashville Scrappers (1) - 180 ('13 Record 6-4, 1st Rounder)
6. Dollarway Cardinals (1) - 154 ('13 Record 13-1, Semi-Finalist, 2-4A Champs)
7. Prairie Grove Tigers - 146 ('13 Record 10-2, 2nd Rounder, 1-4A Champs)
8. Highland Rebels - 124 ('13 Record 8-3, 1st Rounder)
9. Dardanelle Sand Lizards - 78 ('13 Record 8-4, 2nd Rounder)
10. Hamburg Lions - 58 ('13 Record 9-3, 2nd Rounder)


Other receiving votes: Ashdown 24, Arkadelphia 22, HWHC 20, Lincoln 14, Gosnell 10, Lonoke 6, Shiloh Christian 6, Stuttgart 4, Clinton 2, Mena 2


Notes:  A parenthesis ( ) outside of the team stands for the number of first place votes, brackets [ ] outside of the team stands for the position change in the poll from last week, * outside of the team stands for a team that is new to the top ten.

Above is what we predicted and below is what RICH SANDERS thinks for 2014 with his calculated program he uses.


1.   Warren
2.   Arkadelphia
3.   Dollarway
4.   Nashville
5.   Highland
6.   Malvern
7.   Star City
8.   Newport
9.   Pottsville
10.   Prairie Grove

[SUGARTOWN]

One of those polls looks good, the other...not so much.

[LJ06]

RPS really has 4A scattered around this year. Arkadelphia at 2? Wow. Star City at 7? What the crap? Newport at 8? Wow

[Lionheart88]

Seems like a formula would have a hard time accounting for talent differences in graduates leaving and freshman coming up, etc.  I'd give it a few weeks to shake out before I'd trust any automated rankings.

[LJ06]

Seems like a formula would have a hard time accounting for talent differences in graduates leaving and freshman coming up, etc.  I'd give it a few weeks to shake out before I'd trust any automated rankings.

Always does take a few weeks. Will be a noticeable difference say after week 5 or so

[HorseFeathers]

"power formulas" use a lot of history to produce preseason formulas, fans tend to use where they think the teams will finish after 15 weeks of playing...

[CounterPunch]

Whatever formula rich uses is broken.

[HorseFeathers]

Whatever formula rich uses is broken.

By the end of the year it'll be right....every year people say it's broken, but every year Rich comes closer than every poll published out there....