FF Pre-Season 4A Top Ten

[LJ06]

THE TOP TEN


1. Warren Lumberjacks (9) - 294 ('13 Record 10-4, State Runner-Up, 8-4A Champs)
2. Star City Bulldogs (3) - 240 ('13 Record 9-4, Quarterfinalist)
3. Newport Greyhounds - 190 ('13 Record 9-3, 2nd Rounder)
4. Malvern Leopards (2) - 181 ('13 Record 9-3, 2nd Rounder)
5. Nashville Scrappers (1) - 180 ('13 Record 6-4, 1st Rounder)
6. Dollarway Cardinals (1) - 154 ('13 Record 13-1, Semi-Finalist, 2-4A Champs)
7. Prairie Grove Tigers - 146 ('13 Record 10-2, 2nd Rounder, 1-4A Champs)
8. Highland Rebels - 124 ('13 Record 8-3, 1st Rounder)
9. Dardanelle Sand Lizards - 78 ('13 Record 8-4, 2nd Rounder)
10. Hamburg Lions - 58 ('13 Record 9-3, 2nd Rounder)


Other receiving votes: Ashdown 24, Arkadelphia 22, HWHC 20, Lincoln 14, Gosnell 10, Lonoke 6, Shiloh Christian 6, Stuttgart 4, Clinton 2, Mena 2


Notes:  A parenthesis ( ) outside of the team stands for the number of first place votes, brackets [ ] outside of the team stands for the position change in the poll from last week, * outside of the team stands for a team that is new to the top ten.


2013 Pre-Season Poll

1. Warren
2. Arkadelphia
3. Newport
4. Nashville
5. Booneville
6. Stuttgart
7. Dollarway
8. Pottsville
9. Prairie Grove
10. Malvern

[TBone70]

Looks good, "Here we go" Newport surprised me. Let's see how it plays out.

[LJ06]

Looks good, "Here we go" Newport surprised me. Let's see how it plays out.

Not me. They will be very tough this year. Returning QB Bullard, RB Turner, LT/DT Simmons, LB Stafford, LB Wilis. 3 of which are def all state caliber. Talented team.

[Big Fan]

LJ, who is our 16th voter?

[LJ06]

LJ, who is our 16th voter?

Mine of course

I'll even post mine

1. Warren
2. Newport
3. Malvern
4. Star City
5. Nashville
6. Dollarway
7. Dardanelle
8. Highland
9. Hamburg
10. Prairie Grove

[Big Fan]

LJ, who is our 16th voter?

Mine of course

I'll even post mine

1. Warren
2. Newport
3. Malvern
4. Star City
5. Nashville
6. Dollarway
7. Dardanelle
8. Highland
9. Hamburg
10. Prairie Grove

Oh...25% of the pollsters are Jacks...........

....anyways......how are the points totaled?

[LJ06]

LJ, who is our 16th voter?

Mine of course

I'll even post mine

1. Warren
2. Newport
3. Malvern
4. Star City
5. Nashville
6. Dollarway
7. Dardanelle
8. Highland
9. Hamburg
10. Prairie Grove

Oh...25% of the pollsters are Jacks...........

....anyways......how are the points totaled?

More like 18%, I'm the only from Warren who put the Jacks at number 1, and exact same pollsters as last year.

1st - 20
2nd - 18
3rd - 16
4th - 14
5th - 12
6th - 10
7th - 8
8th - 6
9th - 4
10th - 2

[LJ06]

Also 18% are from Stuttgart and 12% represent Nashville

[Big Fan]

LJ, who is our 16th voter?

Mine of course

I'll even post mine

1. Warren
2. Newport
3. Malvern
4. Star City
5. Nashville
6. Dollarway
7. Dardanelle
8. Highland
9. Hamburg
10. Prairie Grove

Oh...25% of the pollsters are Jacks...........

....anyways......how are the points totaled?

More like 18%, I'm the only from Warren who put the Jacks at number 1, and exact same pollsters as last year.

1st - 20
2nd - 18
3rd - 16
4th - 14
5th - 12
6th - 10
7th - 8
8th - 6
9th - 4
10th - 2

lol...just yanking your chain, but I'm curious how you get 18%.  4/16=.25

[LJ06]

LJ, who is our 16th voter?

Mine of course

I'll even post mine

1. Warren
2. Newport
3. Malvern
4. Star City
5. Nashville
6. Dollarway
7. Dardanelle
8. Highland
9. Hamburg
10. Prairie Grove

Oh...25% of the pollsters are Jacks...........

....anyways......how are the points totaled?

More like 18%, I'm the only from Warren who put the Jacks at number 1, and exact same pollsters as last year.

1st - 20
2nd - 18
3rd - 16
4th - 14
5th - 12
6th - 10
7th - 8
8th - 6
9th - 4
10th - 2

lol...just yanking your chain, but I'm curious how you get 18%.  4/16=.25

Not counting dc. Watches football in NE part of state now. Might as well be a 3-4A representative.

[Big Fan]

LJ, who is our 16th voter?

Mine of course

I'll even post mine

1. Warren
2. Newport
3. Malvern
4. Star City
5. Nashville
6. Dollarway
7. Dardanelle
8. Highland
9. Hamburg
10. Prairie Grove

Oh...25% of the pollsters are Jacks...........

....anyways......how are the points totaled?

More like 18%, I'm the only from Warren who put the Jacks at number 1, and exact same pollsters as last year.

1st - 20
2nd - 18
3rd - 16
4th - 14
5th - 12
6th - 10
7th - 8
8th - 6
9th - 4
10th - 2

lol...just yanking your chain, but I'm curious how you get 18%.  4/16=.25

Not counting dc. Watches football in NE part of state now. Might as well be a 3-4A representative.

Have you ever considered politics as a career? 

[LJ06]

Nah too much crap for me

[Superjack45]

It's Manure not crap at least in BF case. Lol! Ok ok I will Quit.

[phdefense]

I am honestly surprised to see Stuttgart even in the receiving votes category.

4A-8 is stacked this year.

[LJ06]

I am honestly surprised to see Stuttgart even in the receiving votes category.

4A-8 is stacked this year.

And just think Hamburg would probably been a little higher if not for the coaching change.

[TBone70]

I am honestly surprised to see Stuttgart even in the receiving votes category.

4A-8 is stacked this year.

Looks like two 10th place Votes or one 9th place. Wonder who that was?

[LJ06]

I am honestly surprised to see Stuttgart even in the receiving votes category.

4A-8 is stacked this year.

Looks like two 10th place Votes or one 9th place. Wonder who that was?

1 9th place vote and no it was not from Stuttgart.

[TBone70]

I am honestly surprised to see Stuttgart even in the receiving votes category.

4A-8 is stacked this year.

Looks like two 10th place Votes or one 9th place. Wonder who that was?

1 9th place vote and no it was not from Stuttgart.

Well, well, well. Non biased poll. Love it.

[SUGARTOWN]

I'm actually surprised that Warren is #1 by that large of a margin. You'd think people would've learned their lesson about putting the Jacks #1 by now...

[LJ06]

I'm actually surprised that Warren is #1 by that large of a margin. You'd think people would've learned their lesson about putting the Jacks #1 by now...

True, but I think you can make a case for anybody 1-6.

[Romeo]

I'm not surprised only one Warren poster voted the Jacks number one. The rest of the state knows the talent we have on paper, but Warren fans know the question marks we have at quarterback. Quarterback is the most important position on the field. If you don't have a solid player at that position, even with the talent we have, the offense will not be as effective. I've heard some good reviews this Spring but I have to see it on the field before I can believe it.

[SUGARTOWN]

I'm actually surprised that Warren is #1 by that large of a margin. You'd think people would've learned their lesson about putting the Jacks #1 by now...

True, but I think you can make a case for anybody 1-6.

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I guess most just took the easy way out..."when in doubt put Warren #1".

[LJ06]

I'm actually surprised that Warren is #1 by that large of a margin. You'd think people would've learned their lesson about putting the Jacks #1 by now...

True, but I think you can make a case for anybody 1-6.

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I guess most just took the easy way out..."when in doubt put Warren #1".

What can I say we took Nashvilles spot as preseason champions

[Big Fan]

I'm not surprised only one Warren poster voted the Jacks number one. The rest of the state knows the talent we have on paper, but Warren fans know the question marks we have at quarterback. Quarterback is the most important position on the field. If you don't have a solid player at that position, even with the talent we have, the offense will not be as effective. I've heard some good reviews this Spring but I have to see it on the field before I can believe it.

Agree.  If Warren had a proven QB I would have voted them #1.  If they have good QB play in the first 3 weeks they will be my #1. 

Also their D must prove they are going to be better than average.  They lost a lot off the best Jack D in quite a while. 

[LJ06]

I still believe Newport and Malvern are two to keep a close eye on.

[FF Secretary of Defense Flap_Jack48]

Noticing a trend in this year's Pre-Season poll--it's an Orange and Black attack.  Four of the Top 5 teams all share the same colors--could get interesting if this things holds true into the play-offs.  I'd like to see a Semi-finals comprised of all Orange and Black, that would be pretty awesome.

On another note, mercy, the 8-4A is back--at least on paper.  For years back in the late 90s, early 00s, the 8AAA/8-4A was one of the toughest conferences in the state.  It's good to see us getting back to that level now. 

Looking forward to a great football season!  Go Jacks!

--Kyle

[AirWarren]

I'm not surprised only one Warren poster voted the Jacks number one. The rest of the state knows the talent we have on paper, but Warren fans know the question marks we have at quarterback. Quarterback is the most important position on the field. If you don't have a solid player at that position, even with the talent we have, the offense will not be as effective. I've heard some good reviews this Spring but I have to see it on the field before I can believe it.

We are more reasonable than most fan bases. A select few on here add nothing more that vomit of the keyboard.  Malvern was my number one.

[AirWarren]

I'm not surprised only one Warren poster voted the Jacks number one. The rest of the state knows the talent we have on paper, but Warren fans know the question marks we have at quarterback. Quarterback is the most important position on the field. If you don't have a solid player at that position, even with the talent we have, the offense will not be as effective. I've heard some good reviews this Spring but I have to see it on the field before I can believe it.

Agree.  If Warren had a proven QB I would have voted them #1.  If they have good QB play in the first 3 weeks they will be my #1. 

Also their D must prove they are going to be better than average.  They lost a lot off the best Jack D in quite a while. 

The QB situation will work out just fine. Especially behind a very solid, big, veteren oline.

[Superjack45]

I voted Star City #1 and Newport #2 and then Warren #3 only because of the defensive situation. Other than that we will be fine, I really saw a young SC team grow up pretty quick and they have a lot of key players coming back and most of the starters will be just Jr. Newport got a pretty good backfield returning and Warren will be Sr. Heavy this year with some players having 3+ years in experience.

[dc24]

LJ, who is our 16th voter?

Mine of course

I'll even post mine

1. Warren
2. Newport
3. Malvern
4. Star City
5. Nashville
6. Dollarway
7. Dardanelle
8. Highland
9. Hamburg
10. Prairie Grove

Oh...25% of the pollsters are Jacks...........

....anyways......how are the points totaled?

More like 18%, I'm the only from Warren who put the Jacks at number 1, and exact same pollsters as last year.

1st - 20
2nd - 18
3rd - 16
4th - 14
5th - 12
6th - 10
7th - 8
8th - 6
9th - 4
10th - 2

lol...just yanking your chain, but I'm curious how you get 18%.  4/16=.25

Not counting dc. Watches football in NE part of state now. Might as well be a 3-4A representative.

I will give my reasoning for voting Warren number one.  First of all, I'm from Warren, but I actually tried my best not to vote for them number one.  I went back and forth between Warren, Dollarway, Newport, and Malvern.  Malvern was based alot from what I had seen on here so I decided to knock them down.  Newport is good, but I just couldn't make them number one.

Alot of preseason polls are based on what happened last year too, whether that is fair or unfair in your mind.  I didn't vote for Dollarway because of their blowout in the semi's to Booneville and because I know they lost a stud player.  Warren played that same Booneville team to a two-point loss on a neutral site and although Warren lost some key players, they return so much as well.  Honestly, I don't think there's a clear-cut number one, but Warren had the most success of any of these programs last year by virtue of Booneville dropping down.

Honestly, I'm skeptical as well because of the QB situation and how our defense will replace the seniors from last season, but I couldn't really vote for someone else number one.  This might be as wide open as this classification has been in a while.

[AirWarren]

Depth- last year we had a substantial advantage with no two way starters. Darveon, jaylon and Hampton will probably be in the secondary along with Gilmore, the Mississippi kid, and maybe broughton. Linebacker will be led by Deangelo but Newton will be greatly missed. Church, hargis, and Smith will anchor the d line. Gonna miss kaleel and Otis too. Gilmore Imo will be the newcoming standout.

Quarterback- Drake Jones graduates.  Enough said. The MS transfer,Darveon and Gorman are solid options.  Gorman went 6-0 as a starter before Drake went beast mode in 2012.

Offensive line - huge strength.  Size, veterens, and lose one from last year.

WR/RB- huge strength.  Cox, broughton at RB. Darveon, Marshall, Hampton, Gilmore at WR.

Have some holes but we have a strong veteran core. Most of these kids started as freshmen and sophomores.

[Soirem]

I'm glad to see dollarway at the 6 for the fact that out of all those considered for number one, dollarway probably has the most questions. Every year its about who's gonna step up after the big stud leaves. There are always capable ones on board. Just the uncertainty of if they rise up or not.

[Big Fan]

Other receiving votes: Ashdown 24, Arkadelphia 22, HWHC 20, Lincoln 14, Gosnell 10, Lonoke 6, Shiloh Christian 6, Stuttgart 4, Clinton 2, Mena 2

Several of these show the lack of knowledge concerning Arkansas High School Football by some pollsters.  Some should not even be in the top 20.

[cuckoobird]

I am honestly surprised to see Stuttgart even in the receiving votes category.

4A-8 is stacked this year.

Looks like two 10th place Votes or one 9th place. Wonder who that was?

Jacketman?

[cuckoobird]

Other receiving votes: Ashdown 24, Arkadelphia 22, HWHC 20, Lincoln 14, Gosnell 10, Lonoke 6, Shiloh Christian 6, Stuttgart 4, Clinton 2, Mena 2

Several of these show the lack of knowledge concerning Arkansas High School Football by some pollsters.  Some should not even be in the top 20.

Yep, just like all the ones voting Nashville in the top 10 last year......

[whippersnapper]

I like the top 10 its about where I think all of us thought it would be. On others receiving votes, Arkadelphia may have one of the best defenses again next year but will really struggle with the loss of Oliver and Howell. Ashdown will be in the mix to make playoffs again in the 7-4a but they have to watch out for Mena. As will all of the conference Coach Harper is in his second year and returns a starting qb along with quite a few other playmakers. Clinton is a team on the outside of the top 10 looking in. Helena is a team that drops after making 5a playoffs and returns an all state qb. But they remind me of Marianna, a lot of athletes but not quite sure what you are going to get. Lincoln will really fall next year. Had Harris be coming back I'd give them making playoffs.

[Superjack45]

Other receiving votes: Ashdown 24, Arkadelphia 22, HWHC 20, Lincoln 14, Gosnell 10, Lonoke 6, Shiloh Christian 6, Stuttgart 4, Clinton 2, Mena 2

Several of these show the lack of knowledge concerning Arkansas High School Football by some pollsters.  Some should not even be in the top 20.

Something we agree on, wow can you believe it.

[AirWarren]

Other receiving votes: Ashdown 24, Arkadelphia 22, HWHC 20, Lincoln 14, Gosnell 10, Lonoke 6, Shiloh Christian 6, Stuttgart 4, Clinton 2, Mena 2

Several of these show the lack of knowledge concerning Arkansas High School Football by some pollsters.  Some should not even be in the top 20.

The only team in there that I think will be good is Shiloh. Return a lot of seniors. The rest of those teams listed...crap.

[LJ06]

Too be honest there is a rather large drop off after number 6 and def number 10.

[FBfan79]

It's June...

[cuckoobird]

Too be honest there is a rather large drop off after number 6 and def number 10.

Wheres the screaming eagles helmet?

[intruder]

Glad to see someone else at top spot on preseason poll.  Kind of like being on EAE Madden Football cover!

[Razorhummer]

Might as well post my pre-season top 10
1. Warren
2. Newport
3. Star City
4. Malvern
5. Nashville
6. Dollarway
7. Dardanelle
8. Prairie Grove
9. Hamburg
10. Highland

[Romeo]

If class 4A football had a video game, who would be on the cover for this year? Pettway, Stewart, Brown, other?

[AirWarren]

Pettway, Darveon, or Turner from Newport.

[CounterPunch]

Good poll.

[Temprees]

With Malvern's new defensive coordinator, expect them to be one of the best defensive teams in 4A.  Malvern's defense will be Championship caliber. 

[Big Fan]

With Malvern's new defensive coordinator, expect them to be one of the best defensive teams in 4A.  Malvern's defense will be Championship caliber. 

Yep

[Romeo]

The Malvern kid who made headlines a few years ago for scoring too many touchdowns. Would he be a ninth grader this upcoming year?

[intruder]

I am really liking the energy that Nashville's new DC is bringing to the program as well