Sugartown School Board mulls Ricebird FB Field Upgrades.

[Lions84]

http://www.stuttgartdailyleader.com/article/20140401/NEWS/140409934/2000/SPORTS

Board worries about the money they are spending to upgrade other buildings at this time.

I hope the Birds get that new field for the Fall.  Who needs AC  I went 12 years of school with no AC except the Library and Office.

[SUGARTOWN]

If they turn Chastain and Moss loose to gather the necessary funds, they'll do it, I have no doubts about that. Might not be able to get in done in time for next fall, but I think it will get done at some point.

[Lions84]

Good a Turf field pays for it self over the years because your not Watering it.

[SUGARTOWN]

Apparently the school board has denied the request for more fundraising, so no go on the turf for now. I have no idea why the school board would shoot down a chance to get turf for little cost. It's my understanding that several private donations had been secured if the project got the green light. Makes no sense to me, but oh well....

[Jimbo Morphis]

Apparently the school board has denied the request for more fundraising, so no go on the turf for now. I have no idea why the school board would shoot down a chance to get turf for little cost. It's my understanding that several private donations had been secured if the project got the green light. Makes no sense to me, but oh well....

i'm not an expert but doesn't the turf have to be replaced every 15 years or so? they may be worried about that. i've heard the arguments about it costs as much to maintain a grass field but that doesn't apply to most farming towns. most have everything they need for maintaining a grass field donated.

[SUGARTOWN]

I'm no expert on it either, but I think the cost for replacing is significantly lower than initial installation cost.

[cuckoobird]

Apparently the school board has denied the request for more fundraising, so no go on the turf for now. I have no idea why the school board would shoot down a chance to get turf for little cost. It's my understanding that several private donations had been secured if the project got the green light. Makes no sense to me, but oh well....

i'm not an expert but doesn't the turf have to be replaced every 15 years or so? they may be worried about that. i've heard the arguments about it costs as much to maintain a grass field but that doesn't apply to most farming towns. most have everything they need for maintaining a grass field donated.

Heck I charge the school double....

[SUGARTOWN]

Ricebird Schedule:

9/1     Arkadelphia     War Memorial (Labor Day) 6:00 pm
9/12   Warren            Home
9/19   DeWitt            Away
9/26   SS Batesvillle   Home
10/3   Heber Springs  Away
10/10 Newport          Home  (Homecoming)
10/17 Riverview        Away
10/24 Helena/WH      Home
10/31 Lonoke           Home
11/6  CAC               Away

Non-conference games begin at 7:30, conference games at 7:00...and I'm glad the Warren game is at 7:30 so I'll have time to get there as I live and work in Little Rock now.

[cuckoobird]

With dumas rison and carlisle for preseason jamboree

[SouthpawSensation]

Apparently the school board has denied the request for more fundraising, so no go on the turf for now. I have no idea why the school board would shoot down a chance to get turf for little cost. It's my understanding that several private donations had been secured if the project got the green light. Makes no sense to me, but oh well....

i'm not an expert but doesn't the turf have to be replaced every 15 years or so? they may be worried about that. i've heard the arguments about it costs as much to maintain a grass field but that doesn't apply to most farming towns. most have everything they need for maintaining a grass field donated.

Good turf surfaces, when they are done right, have a normal shelf life of 8-10 years, depending on how much usage the field gets.
When you consider the cost of grass seed, water and mowing (throw equipment and gas in there), turf fields pay for themselves in about four years.

[Big Fan]

turf fields pay for themselves in about four years.

I would love to see that math...........

[Jacketman65]

With dumas rison and carlisle for preseason jamboree

Why are they playing down this year? I thought that Stuttgart kind of hung their hat on the Bolding boys (Pine Bluff/NLR) jamborees?  Isn't Carlisle 2A?  From what I understand, they lost a ton this past year.

[cuckoobird]

I dont make the schedule. Two previous years we have played warren in preseason. For obvious reasons thats not happening this year. I would bet that it will be stuttgart vs dumas and rison vs carlisle just played on the same field

[Big Fan]

I dont make the schedule. Two previous years we have played warren in preseason. For obvious reasons thats not happening this year. I would bet that it will be stuttgart vs dumas and rison vs carlisle just played on the same field

Typically in a "jamboree" you play every team there for a period or two.  Why else play it on the same field?

[cuckoobird]

I dont make the schedule. Two previous years we have played warren in preseason. For obvious reasons thats not happening this year. I would bet that it will be stuttgart vs dumas and rison vs carlisle just played on the same field

Typically in a "jamboree" you play every team there for a period or two.  Why else play it on the same field?

I've played in some where you didn't. Idk about this one though

[TIGER101]

I dont make the schedule. Two previous years we have played warren in preseason. For obvious reasons thats not happening this year. I would bet that it will be stuttgart vs dumas and rison vs carlisle just played on the same field

Typically in a "jamboree" you play every team there for a period or two.  Why else play it on the same field?

I've played in some where you didn't. Idk about this one though

Now koobird
When you played they wore leather helmets and didn't wear mouth pcs.

[cuckoobird]

We still had jamborees

[brdavis]

They spent enough on the architect trying to upgrade the entrance to the jr high to turf a fourth of the field.

[Jacketman65]

You will be fine without turf. Sometimes it's not what you think it is.  Winning 4 games last year probably didn't help.!

[SUGARTOWN]

You will be fine without turf. Sometimes it's not what you think it is.  Winning 4 games last year probably didn't help.!

Yeah, beating lowly teams like Clinton doesn't really get people fired up.

[SUGARTOWN]

Ah yes, that entryway to the Jr. High is a high priority. Smh

[cuckoobird]

Ah yes, that entryway to the Jr. High is a high priority. Smh

How about those Great new digital media boards that blind you at night while driving by..........

[cuckoobird]

You will be fine without turf. Sometimes it's not what you think it is.  Winning 4 games last year probably didn't help.!

Yeah, beating lowly teams like Clinton doesn't really get people fired up.

YEP, we stunk it up pretty good last year but we still were better than the jackets........ A 4 win season for them is success

[SouthpawSensation]

turf fields pay for themselves in about four years.

I would love to see that math...........

Turf is quite expensive at first and usually paid in one lump sum, but then consider this: (I got this info from a few coaches who made the transition from grass to turf):
• There's the money a school will save because it doesn't have to water grass or plant grass seed where it has been worn out during a school year full of football games (high school, junior high, JVs, 8th-grade and others), soccer and track (all the people walking on the infield during a meet will cause wear and tear). Not to mention the practices. That's thousands of dollars a year right there.
• You also don't have to mow the grass, which saves money on gas (or diesel), equipment and labor. None of that comes cheap any more.
• You don't have to have somebody paint the lines on the field week after week after week because the lines on a turf field stay there a LOT longer. Who knows how many gallons of that paint is used in just one week's time, and that's a pretty penny, too.
Take those numbers over a four-year span, and it's enough to make up for the money a school originally paid for the turf. Now with the new rules, where there can be sponsor logos on the field, you get some company (in Stuttgart's case, it could be Riceland or somebody like that) to pay for a sponsorship, that's an added bonus.

[ricepig]

turf fields pay for themselves in about four years.

I would love to see that math...........

Turf is quite expensive at first and usually paid in one lump sum, but then consider this: (I got this info from a few coaches who made the transition from grass to turf):
• There's the money a school will save because it doesn't have to water grass or plant grass seed where it has been worn out during a school year full of football games (high school, junior high, JVs, 8th-grade and others), soccer and track (all the people walking on the infield during a meet will cause wear and tear). Not to mention the practices. That's thousands of dollars a year right there.
• You also don't have to mow the grass, which saves money on gas (or diesel), equipment and labor. None of that comes cheap any more.
• You don't have to have somebody paint the lines on the field week after week after week because the lines on a turf field stay there a LOT longer. Who knows how many gallons of that paint is used in just one week's time, and that's a pretty penny, too.
Take those numbers over a four-year span, and it's enough to make up for the money a school originally paid for the turf. Now with the new rules, where there can be sponsor logos on the field, you get some company (in Stuttgart's case, it could be Riceland or somebody like that) to pay for a sponsorship, that's an added bonus.

Turf fields cost around $550,000-$650,000 depending on what grade work needs to be done, and the type of field turf you choose. As Southpaw said, it costs around $50,000/yr to water, mow, fertilize, and treat your grass field. Those numbers will be more or less depending on use, donations, and how good you want your field to look. A good quality high school field will need to be re-sod every 5 years, that's over $75,000-$100,000 if you are using some type of prescription turf.

[Big Fan]

turf fields pay for themselves in about four years.

I would love to see that math...........

Turf is quite expensive at first and usually paid in one lump sum, but then consider this: (I got this info from a few coaches who made the transition from grass to turf):
• There's the money a school will save because it doesn't have to water grass or plant grass seed where it has been worn out during a school year full of football games (high school, junior high, JVs, 8th-grade and others), soccer and track (all the people walking on the infield during a meet will cause wear and tear). Not to mention the practices. That's thousands of dollars a year right there.
• You also don't have to mow the grass, which saves money on gas (or diesel), equipment and labor. None of that comes cheap any more.
• You don't have to have somebody paint the lines on the field week after week after week because the lines on a turf field stay there a LOT longer. Who knows how many gallons of that paint is used in just one week's time, and that's a pretty penny, too.
Take those numbers over a four-year span, and it's enough to make up for the money a school originally paid for the turf. Now with the new rules, where there can be sponsor logos on the field, you get some company (in Stuttgart's case, it could be Riceland or somebody like that) to pay for a sponsorship, that's an added bonus.

Turf fields cost around $550,000-$650,000 depending on what grade work needs to be done, and the type of field turf you choose. As Southpaw said, it costs around $50,000/yr to water, mow, fertilize, and treat your grass field. Those numbers will be more or less depending on use, donations, and how good you want your field to look. A good quality high school field will need to be re-sod every 5 years, that's over $75,000-$100,000 if you are using some type of prescription turf.

Using the low number....$550,000/$50000=11 Years I can believe this, but not the previous estimate of 4 years.

Also to consider is the need to purchase equipment to clean the turf to prevent Staph infection.  I'm thinking 15 years would be the magic number of years a turf field needs to last in order to pay for its self. 

[Lions84]

We got ours 1/2 paid for by a pair of Natural Gas Companies.

[ricepig]

turf fields pay for themselves in about four years.

I would love to see that math...........

Turf is quite expensive at first and usually paid in one lump sum, but then consider this: (I got this info from a few coaches who made the transition from grass to turf):
• There's the money a school will save because it doesn't have to water grass or plant grass seed where it has been worn out during a school year full of football games (high school, junior high, JVs, 8th-grade and others), soccer and track (all the people walking on the infield during a meet will cause wear and tear). Not to mention the practices. That's thousands of dollars a year right there.
• You also don't have to mow the grass, which saves money on gas (or diesel), equipment and labor. None of that comes cheap any more.
• You don't have to have somebody paint the lines on the field week after week after week because the lines on a turf field stay there a LOT longer. Who knows how many gallons of that paint is used in just one week's time, and that's a pretty penny, too.
Take those numbers over a four-year span, and it's enough to make up for the money a school originally paid for the turf. Now with the new rules, where there can be sponsor logos on the field, you get some company (in Stuttgart's case, it could be Riceland or somebody like that) to pay for a sponsorship, that's an added bonus.

Turf fields cost around $550,000-$650,000 depending on what grade work needs to be done, and the type of field turf you choose. As Southpaw said, it costs around $50,000/yr to water, mow, fertilize, and treat your grass field. Those numbers will be more or less depending on use, donations, and how good you want your field to look. A good quality high school field will need to be re-sod every 5 years, that's over $75,000-$100,000 if you are using some type of prescription turf.

Using the low number....$550,000/$50000=11 Years I can believe this, but not the previous estimate of 4 years.

Also to consider is the need to purchase equipment to clean the turf to prevent Staph infection.  I'm thinking 15 years would be the magic number of years a turf field needs to last in order to pay for its self.

It depends on the usage. At Jonesboro, we had to cancel some 7th/8th grade games over the years to "save" the field for Jr. High and Sr High games. While the money lost didn't amount to much, it doesn't help with building the program. Also, what are you budgeting to re-sod your natural grass field?

I think the cost to replace the turf is a lot less than the original cost as their shouldn't be the need for grade and drainage work. Most schools these days sell ads for the sidelines and usually one major one for the field. I believe we sold $1.2mil worth of advertising on our field here at Jonesboro, we also put a new track down at the same time.

[cuckoobird]

turf fields pay for themselves in about four years.

I would love to see that math...........

Turf is quite expensive at first and usually paid in one lump sum, but then consider this: (I got this info from a few coaches who made the transition from grass to turf):
• There's the money a school will save because it doesn't have to water grass or plant grass seed where it has been worn out during a school year full of football games (high school, junior high, JVs, 8th-grade and others), soccer and track (all the people walking on the infield during a meet will cause wear and tear). Not to mention the practices. That's thousands of dollars a year right there.
• You also don't have to mow the grass, which saves money on gas (or diesel), equipment and labor. None of that comes cheap any more.
• You don't have to have somebody paint the lines on the field week after week after week because the lines on a turf field stay there a LOT longer. Who knows how many gallons of that paint is used in just one week's time, and that's a pretty penny, too.
Take those numbers over a four-year span, and it's enough to make up for the money a school originally paid for the turf. Now with the new rules, where there can be sponsor logos on the field, you get some company (in Stuttgart's case, it could be Riceland or somebody like that) to pay for a sponsorship, that's an added bonus.

Turf fields cost around $550,000-$650,000 depending on what grade work needs to be done, and the type of field turf you choose. As Southpaw said, it costs around $50,000/yr to water, mow, fertilize, and treat your grass field. Those numbers will be more or less depending on use, donations, and how good you want your field to look. A good quality high school field will need to be re-sod every 5 years, that's over $75,000-$100,000 if you are using some type of prescription turf.

Using the low number....$550,000/$50000=11 Years I can believe this, but not the previous estimate of 4 years.

Also to consider is the need to purchase equipment to clean the turf to prevent Staph infection.  I'm thinking 15 years would be the magic number of years a turf field needs to last in order to pay for its self.

It depends on the usage. At Jonesboro, we had to cancel some 7th/8th grade games over the years to "save" the field for Jr. High and Sr High games. While the money lost didn't amount to much, it doesn't help with building the program. Also, what are you budgeting to re-sod your natural grass field?

I think the cost to replace the turf is a lot less than the original cost as their shouldn't be the need for grade and drainage work. Most schools these days sell ads for the sidelines and usually one major one for the field. I believe we sold $1.2mil worth of advertising on our field here at Jonesboro, we also put a new track down at the same time.

There is no budget for re-sodding. We have Bermuda Grass 

[ricepig]

turf fields pay for themselves in about four years.

I would love to see that math...........

Turf is quite expensive at first and usually paid in one lump sum, but then consider this: (I got this info from a few coaches who made the transition from grass to turf):
• There's the money a school will save because it doesn't have to water grass or plant grass seed where it has been worn out during a school year full of football games (high school, junior high, JVs, 8th-grade and others), soccer and track (all the people walking on the infield during a meet will cause wear and tear). Not to mention the practices. That's thousands of dollars a year right there.
• You also don't have to mow the grass, which saves money on gas (or diesel), equipment and labor. None of that comes cheap any more.
• You don't have to have somebody paint the lines on the field week after week after week because the lines on a turf field stay there a LOT longer. Who knows how many gallons of that paint is used in just one week's time, and that's a pretty penny, too.
Take those numbers over a four-year span, and it's enough to make up for the money a school originally paid for the turf. Now with the new rules, where there can be sponsor logos on the field, you get some company (in Stuttgart's case, it could be Riceland or somebody like that) to pay for a sponsorship, that's an added bonus.

Turf fields cost around $550,000-$650,000 depending on what grade work needs to be done, and the type of field turf you choose. As Southpaw said, it costs around $50,000/yr to water, mow, fertilize, and treat your grass field. Those numbers will be more or less depending on use, donations, and how good you want your field to look. A good quality high school field will need to be re-sod every 5 years, that's over $75,000-$100,000 if you are using some type of prescription turf.

Using the low number....$550,000/$50000=11 Years I can believe this, but not the previous estimate of 4 years.

Also to consider is the need to purchase equipment to clean the turf to prevent Staph infection.  I'm thinking 15 years would be the magic number of years a turf field needs to last in order to pay for its self.

It depends on the usage. At Jonesboro, we had to cancel some 7th/8th grade games over the years to "save" the field for Jr. High and Sr High games. While the money lost didn't amount to much, it doesn't help with building the program. Also, what are you budgeting to re-sod your natural grass field?

I think the cost to replace the turf is a lot less than the original cost as their shouldn't be the need for grade and drainage work. Most schools these days sell ads for the sidelines and usually one major one for the field. I believe we sold $1.2mil worth of advertising on our field here at Jonesboro, we also put a new track down at the same time.

There is no budget for re-sodding. We have Bermuda Grass

Might as well have crab grass. Seriously, you don't have some sort of prescription grass turf? Bermuda? How did it hold up in the rains of 2009, 2010, 2011?

[cuckoobird]

It did ok

[ricepig]

It did ok

So, the middle wasn't torn up? We actually put down some special turf about 6 years ago, it was like a cushioned carpet, beautiful. The problem was 7th/8th grade, 2 Jr. Highs, JV, and Sr High games in the rain took it's toll over a couple of years.

[Jacketman65]

You will be fine without turf. Sometimes it's not what you think it is.  Winning 4 games last year probably didn't help.!

Yeah, beating lowly teams like Clinton doesn't really get people fired up.

How bout Marianna? Guess you will be glad that the both of us will be gone next year!  I know that it is the wrong thread, but I guess that that was a lowly team that the baseball team beat the other day as we;;.

[SUGARTOWN]

You will be fine without turf. Sometimes it's not what you think it is.  Winning 4 games last year probably didn't help.!

Yeah, beating lowly teams like Clinton doesn't really get people fired up.

How bout Marianna? Guess you will be glad that the both of us will be gone next year!  I know that it is the wrong thread, but I guess that that was a lowly team that the baseball team beat the other day as we;;.

Why would we be glad you're gone? Your team is pretty much a guaranteed win every year.

[Jacketman65]

As you will be for most teams once again this year!  Just curious, who did you replace us and that tough Marianna team with? A 2A or 3A school?

[cuckoobird]

As you will be for most teams once again this year!  Just curious, who did you replace us and that tough Marianna team with? A 2A or 3A school?

You were replaced with Riverview and they were replaced with HWHC. Dollarway was replaced with CAC. Our non conference schedule is warren dewitt and Arkie. I don't see any 2 or 3a schools on the schedule. I bet Clinton has one or 2 though. Btw even though we stunk it up last year, we still beat you. What does that say?

[BrianfromCarlisle]

There's a few 2A and 3A schools that Clinton wouldn't want any part of B.   I'm gonna try to get down to watch Carlisle/Stuttgart baseball game.

[Lions84]

Harding Academy and Juction city are the only ones I would except to tie it on with the Ricebirds.

[SouthpawSensation]

Harding Academy and Juction city are the only ones I would except to tie it on with the Ricebirds.

I would definitely throw Charleston (and now Booneville, since it will drop to 3A in the next cycle) in that mix.

[Jimbo Morphis]

Harding Academy and Juction city are the only ones I would except to tie it on with the Ricebirds.

there are several in 3a you are leaving out. there is no difference in the top 30 % of 3a and all of 4a. see booneville as one example.

[Jacketman65]

Stuttgart - large 4A school and yet gets kicked around, yes you beat Clinton, WHO else did you beat. Riverview - just moved up from 3A if not mistaken.  Carlisle - 2A their hay day is over for a while, but will be back.  Marianna, if they have sports is dropping to 3A  and yet kicked your teeth in in your park for their first win in what 3 years....  So move on and admit that you suck like a lot of others and smile and get off of the coat tail of you champ team.  Your linebackers, lineman and back don't hold a candle to your best team in what 10 years!  Go get you some of Harding Academy, Barton or even Junction City.  There are many teams, - even lower classification that will kick your face in at this point.  Would not surprise me if you didn't put Brinkley on the schedule.

[HorseFeathers]

Stuttgart - large 4A school and yet gets kicked around, yes you beat Clinton, WHO else did you beat. Riverview - just moved up from 3A if not mistaken.  Carlisle - 2A their hay day is over for a while, but will be back.  Marianna, if they have sports is dropping to 3A  and yet kicked your teeth in in your park for their first win in what 3 years....  So move on and admit that you suck like a lot of others and smile and get off of the coat tail of you champ team.  Your linebackers, lineman and back don't hold a candle to your best team in what 10 years!  Go get you some of Harding Academy, Barton or even Junction City.  There are many teams, - even lower classification that will kick your face in at this point.  Would not surprise me if you didn't put Brinkley on the schedule.

They are looking at lean times this year...but Carlisle gave Junction City all they wanted last season in the 2A semifinals...and if they knew what a forward pass was they might have been able to beat them...

[cuckoobird]

I'm still trying to find them on the schedule

[Jimbo Morphis]

any rumors around bird land about losing your coach to west memphis? there are in mcgehee about our coach and someone from w.m. just told me he had heard it was elmore. i have no idea.

[cuckoobird]

any rumors around bird land about losing your coach to west memphis? there are in mcgehee about our coach and someone from w.m. just told me he had heard it was elmore. i have no idea.

I would call elmore and ask but I don't want to wake him. I better wait until noon

[Hoghead]

You're trying to tell me they can't sell enough rice in Stuttgart to get turf & A/C ? You guys still stuck in 1978 up there in ARKANSAS County ?

[cuckoobird]

You're trying to tell me they can't sell enough rice in Stuttgart to get turf & A/C ? You guys still stuck in 1978 up there in ARKANSAS County ?

Times are tough, haven't you heard?

[cuckoobird]

any rumors around bird land about losing your coach to west memphis? there are in mcgehee about our coach and someone from w.m. just told me he had heard it was elmore. i have no idea.

They love the wing T so looks like Marcus gets it

[Jimbo Morphis]

any rumors around bird land about losing your coach to west memphis? there are in mcgehee about our coach and someone from w.m. just told me he had heard it was elmore. i have no idea.

They love the wing T so looks like Marcus gets it

check your pm

[cuckoobird]

looks like the Ricebirds could have a move in that will help this fall and will most assuredly help next spring. Nothing is final yet though