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Title: 5A west - favorite
Post by: Tomahawk Chop on January 13, 2012, 07:57:25 pm
Who is the favorite to take conference and why?  I've heard Greenwood is looking good again this year due to a lot of experienced players from the state finals team coming back.
Title: Re: 5A west - favorite
Post by: BGR on January 27, 2012, 08:59:10 pm
Greenbrier in 2012, baby! I think Greenwood lost too much talent last year to be a contender.
Title: Re: 5A west - favorite
Post by: Tomahawk Chop on January 27, 2012, 09:22:06 pm
Isn't Greenbrier supposed to still have an ace or two?  It will be a pitcher's game with the BBCOR bats.  I also heard that Alma is loaded with  Jensen and Burris.   I don't think Grrenwood lost as much as a lot of people are saying. 
Title: Re: 5A west - favorite
Post by: BGR on January 27, 2012, 09:30:21 pm
Greenbrier is going to be pretttty good on the mound.  Does Alma have others in addition to the Jensen and Burris kids?  As far as Greenwood is concerned and if I'm not mistaken, they lost their entire infield to graduation. Gonna be hard to come back as a contender in the 5A West with a new infield and new rotation, IMO.
Title: Re: 5A west - favorite
Post by: Tomahawk Chop on January 27, 2012, 09:48:13 pm
Not sure about alma. But I think greenwood will have some kids step up this year. IMO
Title: Re: 5A west - favorite
Post by: vapor trail on January 28, 2012, 09:35:34 pm
i don't recall any dominant pitchers coming back in the 5a west.  Greenwood has won 3 straight conf titles and until someone dethrones them, they should be the favorite.  i believe many said that they lost too much the year before from the 31-2 team.  Last year they came within 2 runs of winning the whole thing. 
Title: Re: 5A west - favorite
Post by: freshtheprince on January 29, 2012, 02:32:35 am
Quote from: vapor trail on January 28, 2012, 09:35:34 pm
i don't recall any dominant pitchers coming back in the 5a west.  Greenwood has won 3 straight conf titles and until someone dethrones them, they should be the favorite.  i believe many said that they lost too much the year before from the 31-2 team.  Last year they came within 2 runs of winning the whole thing.

Greenwood only lost a couple from the 31-2 team. They lost the whole infield and top 4 pitchers this past year. BBCOR will be the thing to help them, their strong point will be speed. Can't wait for the season to start
Title: Re: 5A west - favorite
Post by: vapor trail on January 30, 2012, 03:23:53 pm
I believe they lost 5 starters from that team. Just returned Sandifer caster and carter. So brought Caudle kid back but #2 lefty only pitched a couple of games last yr. due to muscle tear
Title: Re: 5A west - favorite
Post by: Tomahawk Chop on January 30, 2012, 10:24:16 pm
If they lost all you mentioned who is going to fill the spots and make a difference?
Title: Re: 5A west - favorite
Post by: freshtheprince on January 31, 2012, 11:38:59 pm
Quote from: vapor trail on January 30, 2012, 03:23:53 pm
I believe they lost 5 starters from that team. Just returned Sandifer caster and carter. So brought Caudle kid back but #2 lefty only pitched a couple of games last yr. due to muscle tear

You are right, however they lost a 2-hole, 4,5,7,8 and only the number 3 pitcher after 2010. This past year they lost 2,3,4,5. The whole infield is gone and top 4 pitchers That's loosing the core of your team.
Title: Re: 5A west - favorite
Post by: vapor trail on February 02, 2012, 11:08:28 pm
Greenwood seems to be very good in the area of replacing their losses.  they always have a couple of kids that improve each year and become players as upper classmen ie:Gilliam, Turner, Caster. They have had several kids not good enough to break into the lineup as underclassmen that would probably start for most teams in the conference.
Title: Re: 5A west - favorite
Post by: Redbirdpride12 on February 24, 2012, 08:13:25 am
Greenbrier will be a contender if they can get some of their younger guys to hit the ball. They lost a good bit of power in Harmon and Virden but they still have Burgess. But yes they do still have some pitching left and they will be pretty hard to stop on the mound with the new bats.
Title: Re: 5A west - favorite
Post by: Lion Man on February 24, 2012, 10:32:35 am
Greenwood will not win it this year.  They have 2 players on the team that can make a difference though.

Sunde and Kennedy
Title: Re: 5A west - favorite
Post by: TigerDog on February 24, 2012, 08:22:30 pm
Let me help ya'll out. Greenwood will be fine. Three returning senior starters  in the outfield that can fly. Sunde Suter and Smith, two of which have signed to play in college, all were All Conference players last year and Sunde was All State. The one that isn't signed will play Center Field.
Hayden Harvey is the best short stop in the state (future D1 player). Starting catcher (All Conference Bryce Bass) and third baseman from last year return. 1st base and 2nd base are the only positions that have "New" players.

Sunde back on mound had about 8 wins last year and Suter (LH Senior) is seasoned as well. Thornton (RH Senior) . The 5A West will be introduced to 6'5" Junior RH Ethan Clark and 6'2" Junior Chris Hunt.

Lots of speed that will hit consistently. Shoud be the best defensive team GW has fielded in a few years and GW defense is always good.

Good luck 5A West. Can you stop the fourth Conference Championship in a row?
Title: Re: 5A west - favorite
Post by: Lion Man on February 24, 2012, 10:10:49 pm
PLEASE do not say you have the best shortstop in the state AGAIN.  We heard about sandifer for 3 years being the best in the state.  The BEST do not go Juco.
Title: Re: 5A west - favorite
Post by: WarEagle44 on February 24, 2012, 10:31:21 pm
Juco has nothing to do with player ability, in case you didnt know
Title: Re: 5A west - favorite
Post by: leatherneck on February 24, 2012, 11:15:34 pm
Lioness,

Go home and stay home.
Title: Re: 5A west - favorite
Post by: freshtheprince on February 24, 2012, 11:31:54 pm
Quote from: Lion Man on February 24, 2012, 10:10:49 pm
PLEASE do not say you have the best shortstop in the state AGAIN.  We heard about sandifer for 3 years being the best in the state.  The BEST do not go Juco.

I am in no way a Sandifer fan, but most of the better players do go to Juco in baseball.
Title: Re: 5A west - favorite
Post by: freshtheprince on February 24, 2012, 11:38:20 pm
Quote from: TigerDog on February 24, 2012, 08:22:30 pm
Let me help ya'll out. Greenwood will be fine. Three returning senior starters  in the outfield that can fly. Sunde Suter and Smith, two of which have signed to play in college, all were All Conference players last year and Sunde was All State. The one that isn't signed will play Center Field.
Hayden Harvey is the best short stop in the state (future D1 player). Starting catcher (All Conference Bryce Bass) and third baseman from last year return. 1st base and 2nd base are the only positions that have "New" players.

Sunde back on mound had about 8 wins last year and Suter (LH Senior) is seasoned as well. Thornton (RH Senior) . The 5A West will be introduced to 6'5" Junior RH Ethan Clark and 6'2" Junior Chris Hunt.

Lots of speed that will hit consistently. Shoud be the best defensive team GW has fielded in a few years and GW defense is always good.

Good luck 5A West. Can you stop the fourth Conference Championship in a row?

-Who is the other player to sign?

-Harvey is the best short stop Greenwood has seen in a LONG time, but its a big state. And the future D1 thing, he will need to gain a couple of inches before anyone other than juco gives him a chance. Not saying the skills arent there because Im a big believer in him, but you have to pass the eye test before you get a shot in college

-I believe Matt Turner graduated.
Title: Re: 5A west - favorite
Post by: TigerDog on February 24, 2012, 11:42:04 pm
Quote from: Lion Man on February 24, 2012, 10:10:49 pm
PLEASE do not say you have the best shortstop in the state AGAIN.  We heard about sandifer for 3 years being the best in the state.  The BEST do not go Juco.

Many different circumstances lead players down different paths young dumb one....

Tony was a great high school player. Started four years. Set many school records. Led his team to the State Finals. His last two seasons he was the best player on a team that went 65-7........This JUCO you speak negatively of has put 100% of its two year players in D1 schools or the draft for the last several years.

And I will reapeat. Hayden Harvey is the best shortstop in the 5A.....just wait and see what I'm talking about.
Title: Re: 5A west - favorite
Post by: TigerDog on February 24, 2012, 11:49:34 pm
Quote from: freshtheprince on February 24, 2012, 11:38:20 pm
Quote from: TigerDog on February 24, 2012, 08:22:30 pm
Let me help ya'll out. Greenwood will be fine. Three returning senior starters  in the outfield that can fly. Sunde Suter and Smith, two of which have signed to play in college, all were All Conference players last year and Sunde was All State. The one that isn't signed will play Center Field.
Hayden Harvey is the best short stop in the state (future D1 player). Starting catcher (All Conference Bryce Bass) and third baseman from last year return. 1st base and 2nd base are the only positions that have "New" players.

Sunde back on mound had about 8 wins last year and Suter (LH Senior) is seasoned as well. Thornton (RH Senior) . The 5A West will be introduced to 6'5" Junior RH Ethan Clark and 6'2" Junior Chris Hunt.

Lots of speed that will hit consistently. Shoud be the best defensive team GW has fielded in a few years and GW defense is always good.

Good luck 5A West. Can you stop the fourth Conference Championship in a row?

-Who is the other player to sign?

-Harvey is the best short stop Greenwood has seen in a LONG time, but its a big state. And the future D1 thing, he will need to gain a couple of inches before anyone other than juco gives him a chance. Not saying the skills arent there because Im a big believer in him, but you have to pass the eye test before you get a shot in college

-I believe Matt Turner graduated.

Suter is the other player. I know he has been offered. He may not have signed yet.

Hayden will get a look by D1 because of his defensive skills. Whole bunch of D1 shortstops out there that aren't 6'2". He is the best I have seen in G

Matt did graduate. But when he pitched Thornton started some and played all summer, which stuck in my mind.

Sunde, Suter, Smith, Bass each started all year. Thornton and Harvey were in lineup 2nd half of season. That is 6 players. Greenwood just reloads, they do not have to rebuild.
Title: Re: 5A west - favorite
Post by: Hawgballer on February 25, 2012, 10:05:35 pm
Some of you Greenwood posters are so arrogant, it oozes out of you.  Doesn't matter whether it's football or baseball or whatever. Tigerdog seems to act as if he is all knowing about Greenwood baseball ... two have already signed. Then changes it and says, well, he's been offered, but not sure if he's signed.  I for one am tired of the arrogant Greenwood posters. "We don't rebuild, we reload."  I'll give you this much, you do have a very good baseball coach.
Title: Re: 5A west - favorite
Post by: TheHogHead on February 25, 2012, 11:00:11 pm
Quote from: TigerDog on February 24, 2012, 11:42:04 pm
Quote from: Lion Man on February 24, 2012, 10:10:49 pm
PLEASE do not say you have the best shortstop in the state AGAIN.  We heard about sandifer for 3 years being the best in the state.  The BEST do not go Juco.



And I will reapeat. Hayden Harvey is the best shortstop in the 5A.....just wait and see what I'm talking about.

Bold statement when the Hogs have already signed 2 of the shortstops in 5A SW. 

And btw, last season's top pitcher nationally chose to go to a Juco .  Sometimes the best do go the Juco route, everyone's journey is different.
Title: Re: 5A west - favorite
Post by: TigerDog on February 26, 2012, 10:44:55 am
Quote from: Hawgballer on February 25, 2012, 10:05:35 pm
Some of you Greenwood posters are so arrogant, it oozes out of you.  Doesn't matter whether it's football or baseball or whatever. Tigerdog seems to act as if he is all knowing about Greenwood baseball ... two have already signed. Then changes it and says, well, he's been offered, but not sure if he's signed.  I for one am tired of the arrogant Greenwood posters. "We don't rebuild, we reload."  I'll give you this much, you do have a very good baseball coach.

I am all knowing Hawgballer....... Just jumped the gun putting some information out. There will be more from this team that committ, are offered, or sign. My point was this GW team has talent coming back.

Grow thicker skin though. Public board where arrogance and smack talk is what makes it fun!

Title: Re: 5A west - favorite
Post by: TigerDog on February 26, 2012, 10:48:04 am
Quote from: TheHogHead on February 25, 2012, 11:00:11 pm
Quote from: TigerDog on February 24, 2012, 11:42:04 pm
Quote from: Lion Man on February 24, 2012, 10:10:49 pm
PLEASE do not say you have the best shortstop in the state AGAIN.  We heard about sandifer for 3 years being the best in the state.  The BEST do not go Juco.



And I will reapeat. Hayden Harvey is the best shortstop in the 5A.....just wait and see what I'm talking about.

Bold statement when the Hogs have already signed 2 of the shortstops in 5A SW. 

And btw, last season's top pitcher nationally chose to go to a Juco .  Sometimes the best do go the Juco route, everyone's journey is different.

Wow. Did not know that about the Shortstops from the SW. Obviously they are really good. I will stand by our SS though. I have been around baseball many years and he is one of the best defensive shortstops I have seen in Arkansas in any classification. 
Title: Re: 5A west - favorite
Post by: TTofGreenwood on February 26, 2012, 09:34:30 pm
Quote from: Hawgballer on February 25, 2012, 10:05:35 pm
Some of you Greenwood posters are so arrogant, it oozes out of you.  Doesn't matter whether it's football or baseball or whatever. Tigerdog seems to act as if he is all knowing about Greenwood baseball ... two have already signed. Then changes it and says, well, he's been offered, but not sure if he's signed.  I for one am tired of the arrogant Greenwood posters. "We don't rebuild, we reload."  I'll give you this much, you do have a very good baseball coach.

We p i s s  excellence.  Deal with it...newbie! ;)
Title: Re: 5A west - favorite
Post by: Rick Perry on February 27, 2012, 12:19:20 pm
Alma is my favorite. Wesley Larue will be taking them to state..




Title: Re: 5A west - favorite
Post by: Rick Perry on February 27, 2012, 12:22:30 pm
Quote from: BGR on January 27, 2012, 09:30:21 pm
Greenbrier is going to be pretttty good on the mound.  Does Alma have others in addition to the Jensen and Burris kids?  As far as Greenwood is concerned and if I'm not mistaken, they lost their entire infield to graduation. Gonna be hard to come back as a contender in the 5A West with a new infield and new rotation, IMO.
Jensen is not playing. Huffaker is a stud i hear.
Title: Re: 5A west - favorite
Post by: olddawg on February 27, 2012, 02:57:16 pm
 ;D ;D
Title: Re: 5A west - favorite
Post by: BronxBomber on February 28, 2012, 09:33:16 am
I'll take Vilonia as my dark horse.  They are a pretty solid group, and well coached.  And closer to Central Arkansas than most, so that makes them better than the rest of the 5A West  ;D

Greenbrier should be awfully good this year too.  Should be a packed place when they meet up.
Title: Re: 5A west - favorite
Post by: WarEagle44 on February 28, 2012, 06:09:27 pm
Greenwood looked to have plenty of pitching depth
Title: Re: 5A west - favorite
Post by: Bleacher Creature on February 29, 2012, 08:39:05 pm
Harrison has both starters on the mound back and only graduated one senior. For a team that went 9-5 last year they aren't getting much talk. May not be THE favorite but definitely a contender. Inexperience and injury killed them last year.
Title: Re: 5A west - favorite
Post by: gobfan on March 02, 2012, 10:44:20 am
Harrison beat Little Rock Christian yesterday 6-5 to start out its season.
Title: Re: 5A west - favorite
Post by: TheHogHead on March 02, 2012, 10:54:44 am
Quote from: gobfan on March 02, 2012, 10:44:20 am
Harrison beat Little Rock Christian yesterday 6-5 to start out its season.
Gob, how did LR Christian look yesterday?
Title: Re: 5A west - favorite
Post by: gobfan on March 03, 2012, 01:36:55 pm
I wasn't actually at the game. Had a buddy that texted me after the game.
Title: Re: 5A west - favorite
Post by: TigerDog on March 03, 2012, 10:03:40 pm
Greenwood beat Springdale last night 13-4.

Three home runs hit in game. BBCOR what?

Sunde pitched 6 innings. Harvey and Bass hit bombs.
Title: Re: 5A west - favorite
Post by: TTofGreenwood on March 04, 2012, 07:03:39 pm
Anyone have directions to ballpark in Siloam?  Is it at new school or old or somewhere else?  Thanks.
Title: Re: 5A west - favorite
Post by: leatherneck on March 04, 2012, 10:20:05 pm
Quote from: TigerDog on March 03, 2012, 10:03:40 pm
Greenwood beat Springdale last night 13-4.

Three home runs hit in game. BBCOR what?

Sunde pitched 6 innings. Harvey and Bass hit bombs.
how did springdale look in the game against greenwood. ive seen them intrasquad and they looked horrible.
Title: Re: 5A west - favorite
Post by: olddawg on March 05, 2012, 11:36:48 am
TT,
as you come in to SS on 412 west, turn right or north on AR-59,
Go 1 mile ,Take a left on "Cheri Witlock Drive"Go about 1.50 miles, cross RR tracks
Baseball comlex is on the left

Your welcome
JB