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Official Game Thread GW vs. PA

Started by AHM™, December 02, 2006, 01:51:19 pm

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bigunit11

WHY go for two after that last touchdown?
Kick it at worst , overtime.

Baitshop

Sebastian County

County of Champions

Home of the 5A State Champion Greenwood Bulldogs!!!!!!

and the 7A State Champion Southside Rebels!!!!!!

Congrats Bulldogs!!!!!

RD™

Quote from: baitshop - FF Official Bait Supplier on December 02, 2006, 05:35:07 pm
Sebastian County

County of Champions

Home of the 5A State Champion Greenwood Bulldogs!!!!!!

and the 7A State Champion Southside Rebels!!!!!!

Congrats Bulldogs!!!!!

That's what im talking about.

hehateme


Drama Mama ™

Quote from: President Ivan on December 02, 2006, 04:02:05 pm
The stats crew has gotten back to work.

I looked up the ref crew.  Couldn't find where the white hat is from, but one is from Harrison, two from Mt. Home, and another from Russellville.

1st of all a big congrats to Greenwood on their back- to- back title.  I guess RD's here for another year ;D

Hey UI, was the officiating crew Mark Martin-Harrison , Matt Martin-Mt Home and Kelly Davis-Russellville ?  If so, Martin from Harrison was elected by his peers & the AAA last year as "Referee of the Year"  last season.

mudturtle


DIG-BIG

Quote from: President Ivan on December 02, 2006, 05:15:27 pm
Congrats, Greenwood.

And to PA, hey, apparently cheating doesn't pay off.  It serves you right.
Best post of the day.......... ;D ;D ;D ;D

fffbfan1

Quote from: Super Scrapper on December 02, 2006, 05:13:05 pm
Quote from: XTREMEHOGFAN on December 02, 2006, 04:11:25 pm
if pa wins then this is gonna be a huge slap in the face to public schools for issuing the multiplier!! go bruins

Not at all...It would just prove that the private schools should have been moved up to 5A and the easier classification a long time ago...Then they would have been better off....SS

Go Scrappers
   ;D

Both PA and Greenwood would beat Nashville.

SouthpawSensation

Here's some food for thought -- Check out these stats!

Pulaski Academy-Greenwood Stats
Pulaski Academy   14   7   21   13   —   55
Greenwood   7   14   14   21   —   56
First Quarter
PA—Green 1 run (Gray kick), 8:49
PA—Green 4 run (Gray kick), 5:44
Grnw—Ridener 3 run (Hartness kick), 3:53
Second Quarter
Grnw—Walters 57 pass from Wilson (Hartness kick), 11:21
Grnw—Hogan 25 pass from Wilson (Hartness kick), 5:13
PA—Williams 37 pass from Louks (Gray kick), 0:46
Third Quarter
Grnw—Walters 47 pass from Wilson (Hartness kick), 10:13
PA—Langford 39 pass from Louks (Gray kick), 9:15
PA—Green 59 pass from Louks (Gray kick), 7:40
PA—Bailey 68 fumble return (Gray kick), 4:05
Grnw—Ridener 1 run (Hartness kick), 1:07
Fourth Quarter
Grnw—Staton 3 pass from Wilson (Hartness kick), 5:51
PA—Green 58 run (Gray kick), 4:07
Grnw—Ridener 39 pass from Wilson (pass failed), 2:05
PA—Williams 60 pass from Louks (pass failed), 1:49
Grnw—Morris 4 pass from Wilson (Staton pass from Wilson), 0:12
A—5,194.
———
   PA   Grnw
First downs   32   26
Rushes-yards   36-163   25-45
Passing   520   563
Comp-Att-Int   32-49-3   39-66-1
Return Yards   73   58
Punts-Avg.   1-57   4-42
Fumbles-Lost   6-3   3-1
Penalties-Yards   7-46   6-39
Time of Possession   22:28   25:32

———
INDIVIDUAL STATISTICS
RUSHING—Pulaski Academy, Green 25-158, Louks 9-(-2), Keith 1-13, Langford 1-(-6). Greenwood, Ridener 17-34, Wilson 6-8, Staton 2-3.
PASSING—Pulaski Academy, Louks 32-48-3-520. Gray 0-1-0-0. Greenwood, Wilson 39-66-1-563.
RECEIVING—Pulaski Academy, Langford 14-160, Lowman 8-102, Williams 6-151, Green 4-107. Greenwood, Staton 16-149, Ridener 8-113, Hogan 6-105, Walters 5-158, Morris 4-38.

jbird

Quote from: Almabball on December 02, 2006, 04:10:48 pm
Evidently it was a questionable call, either way it's a 2 TD lead for PA now.  Good or bad call, it may determine the outcome of the game.

There was a cut block by a PA kid on the fumble return.  It was clear as day, but the refs were too far up field to see it.

nam7104


Lance Bass

Just got back.  I too left early.  We watched the score board as we drove up Markham.  Last we saw it was 55-48.  Then we got a phone call that GWood scored.  Unreal.  One of the best ball games I have seen.

The refs let the kids play.  They missed some calls, but they weren't one sided.  PA got their share, as did GWood.

I didn't see the PA 2 point conversion at the end, but when we saw 55 on the board we thought he had missed the PAT.  Definitely not the greatest decision, but they came to win...as did GWood and their 2 point miss.

Congrats GWood!!  You stepped up on the field when you needed to!

SouthpawSensation

That was the final stats I shipped out moments ago...

Maynard G Krebs

Quote from: President Ivan on December 02, 2006, 05:15:27 pm
Congrats, Greenwood.

And to PA, hey, apparently cheating doesn't pay off.  It serves you right.

Congratulations are in order to Greenwood, but the reference to PA is outright wrong and uncalled for.   

ScottFaldon


Gwoodfb2010


Gwoodfb2010

It would be nice if you would go some where else and talk about this.
Quote from: Fanofallfootball on December 02, 2006, 05:05:53 pm
That's right - when you are wrong call the poster an idiot.  You are sad.  People who are intelligent enough to be successful enough to afford private school tuition do not send other people's children to private school.  But you wouldn't be able to figure that out.

B.S.

I'll bet all the color went out of the Kelly's face when he realized he scored and gave us 1:49 with 3TO's to beat him. He should have got the game film from Wynne vs. Greenwood 2004 to see what happens when you score when we want you to.

Father Guido

WOW!!!

I don't think I've ever seen a game where BOTH teams had 4 recievers with over 100 yards.

TwentyOne

I'm glad that those P.A. (the university, recruit school, cheaters, etc., etc.) lost. Way to go Greenwood!

tep

You got to know when to hold'em know when to fold'em. ;)

GBdog2003

this game was insane i just got back from the game and Gusano's to cheer on the hogs and drink a little beer :) had the hog rally band at the pub what an after party to the championship game  ... the questionable call was the forward pass that was let go by the refs as a fumble  ??? he was throwing it got hit flew forward in a spiral landed 10 feet or so PA guy picked it up and scampered in ... PA beating themselves goes hand in hand with the hard hits and the phenomenal coverage greenwood provided on the deep balls and the stop routes ... loucks interceptions came at the hands of tons of tons of tons of sacks by the gwood D they pressured him for most of the night hitting him from all over ... u can say PA beat themselves all u want but the pressure gw brought caused alot of it and im sure any PA fan will agree with that

GR_08

all of you ppl can talk crap about PA all you want but for a team who just moved up from 3a i think they did a heck of a job this year....

GBdog2003

i for one am not downing PA i thought they brought a LEGIT team in and nearly came away with the win i couldnt have asked for a better way to spend my 7 dollars

BadDogGHSDogPound

Quote from: Fanofallfootball on December 02, 2006, 05:26:02 pm
Congratulations Greenwood and Coach Rick Jones!!!  Shiloh refused Kelly's request for game film (WOW - a private school collaborated with a public school)  and joins with you in celebrating your WEST win.  That is the way it should be - conference against conference, region against region, state against state (Arkansas/Florida)

Greenwood has nothing but respect for the private schools. They're tough competitors. I saw Coach Floyd and the Shiloh coaching staff sitting on the Greenwood side today.

Cantu_is_the_best!!!

GO VILONIA!!! we beat the state champs!! lol!! we were rooting for yall and i was sitting on yall sides with my vilonia baseball hat on....parents prolly thought i was crazy though!!! EAGLES #1!

BadDogGHSDogPound

Glad to have you on our side, we actually had a lot of support from other teams. I saw Shiloh, Hacket, Booneville and Alma.

Father Guido

Greenwood had 399 yds total offense in the second half and over 250 in the 4th quarter alone. :o

WHO ME?

Quote from: Almabball on December 02, 2006, 05:14:43 pm
Greenwood your defending state champs.  Man I hate saying that.

Has A Nice Ring to it doesn't it Almaball. You know I have a rent house that will be open before next season.

fivefoot

i cant believe PA had a banner saying "can you feel the ring coming'

Eddie Goodson

Quote from: fivefoot on December 03, 2006, 01:39:06 pm
i cant believe PA had a banner saying "can you feel the ring coming'
What else would you expect it say? "Just happy to be here" isn't very supportive.

RDFT

Obviously either of these two teams could outscore just about any team in the state. They'd be even more dangerous if either one could ever find a defense....

Greenwood was 2nd to last in the 5A - West with 24.5 points scored against them per game.

PA was 5th best in the Southeast with 27 points against per game.

Whoever said defense wins championships?

Father Guido

What was their average margin of victory, and where does that fall in their respective conferences?  hmm?

Lance Bass

Quote from: fivefoot on December 03, 2006, 01:39:06 pm
i cant believe PA had a banner saying "can you feel the ring coming'

I like the ones side by side.  "Another Division" -> "Another State Titie"

tep

How many D1 players will P.A. have next year?

B.S.

Be careful E.
Quote from: tep on December 03, 2006, 10:31:42 pm
How many D1 players will P.A. have next year?


Be careful E. Good will ban you if you speak ill of PA he is their "Apologist". How many other 5A teams this year had 3 D-1 players? I am sure they will develope some more D-1 players from within since kindergarten just like B.G.

PA Pressbox

December 04, 2006, 01:43:44 am #336 Last Edit: December 04, 2006, 02:13:23 am by Ambassador - PA Pressbox
Between watching Hog game on TV at Chiles (surrounded by GW fans), going to church, getting Christmas decorations out, and other family chores, this is the first I've been back on since the game.

First and foremost, Congratulations Greenwood and Coach Rick Jones!!!  I thought PA vs White Hall was the best HS game I'd ever seen, then we went to Wynne and I changed my mind.  But, now Saturday nights game tops them all.

I'm sure Nettleton has a great team, seeing as they made it much further in the playoffs than most people thought they would.  Also, the one indisputable fact is that Greenwood is the #1 team in 5A.  That said....after witnessing both the PA vs Wynne game and the PA vs Greenwood, I am convinced that you could hold a round robin tournament, over a few weeks, where each team would play the other two teams 2 or 3 times, and any given team could win on any given night.  All three teams are very closely matched.  Just look at the final scores in both of those games -- 1 point margin of victory in each.

I have the utmost respect for all three programs' Coaches and Athletes!!!

Speaking of respect....Ivan, I had nothing but respect for you right up until the end of the PA vs Wynne game.  That's when you had to jump on your radio announcer's band wagon.  You came on here and said how he shouldn't have said it, but that that didn't mean it wasn't true.  And now, you've destroyed this game thread by hammering on this issue in the middle of the best game of the year.  People were asking time & score and you were singing the same verse over and over.  WHAT I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO KNOW IS:  If PA cheats so much, why did you all wait until the very second that we beat you, to bring up these allegations?

And, CC Dog41....Let me clarify our D-1 prospects' tenure.  Yes, Brian Langford did start PA in Kindergarten; however, Loucks arrived several years later............. :D in the 2nd Grade.  I understand our top notch recruiters spotted him on the playground at Miss Selma's Daycare and Elementary school (my Pre-K Alma Mater by the way).  If you doubt either of these, I will be more than happy to scan their yearbook photos from their first years and post them on here.  As for Broderick, if you consider his half brother, Greg Wesley, to be an Ultra Rich Booster, then I guess we're busted.  l hadn't really thought of him as an active Booster because I haven't seen him at any games this year; however, that may be because he's busy trying to make the money to pay for Broderick's tuition.....by playing football for the KC Chiefs.

If anyone has confirmable evidence that PA is cheating, please show us what you've got.  Until then......NEXT ISSUE!!!

GBdog2003

welcome to ivans world pressbox Gwood(the tainted clossus) and PA(the cheating recruiting private school) we beat them last year on our way to winning the champ and we were tainted ... PA beat them on their way to runner up and their cheaters ... its just ivan weve all kind of learned to laugh and poke fun at him time to time

Eddie Goodson

Quote from: CC Dog41 on December 03, 2006, 11:25:26 pm
Be careful E.
Quote from: tep on December 03, 2006, 10:31:42 pm
How many D1 players will P.A. have next year?


Be careful E. Good will ban you if you speak ill of PA he is their "Apologist". How many other 5A teams this year had 3 D-1 players? I am sure they will develope some more D-1 players from within since kindergarten just like B.G.
You really are starting to look pathetic. You have no clue of what you are talking about.

AB™

Quote from: dogplayerdad (retired) on December 03, 2006, 01:24:10 pm
Quote from: Almabball on December 02, 2006, 05:14:43 pm
Greenwood your defending state champs.  Man I hate saying that.

Has A Nice Ring to it doesn't it Almaball. You know I have a rent house that will be open before next season.

If you will pay the rent then you might be able to sway me to your side.  Even then something else would have to be thrown it.  I'll never root for Greenwood on two occassions.  When they are playing Alma or in a State Championship.  The latter is subject to change depending on who their opponent is.  ;D

cookooforcocopuffs

Quote from: VHS Eagle Player on December 02, 2006, 02:25:45 pm
yea i new pa would blow out that over rated greenwood
Great call.  You should be a weather-man

RDFT

Quote from: Father Guido on December 03, 2006, 05:00:12 pm
What was their average margin of victory, and where does that fall in their respective conferences?  hmm?

The whole point of the post was that although their offenses were the best in their conference (probably the state, but I've not looked that deep into it and don't have time to right now), their defenses were among the worst (in terms of points allowed). Both teams' margin of victory was among the best in their conference, and that adds directly to my argument. This was meant in no way as a bash on Greenwood or PA. Just a comment that if either team ever develops a defense that comes anywhere near where their offense does, watch out. They'd beat any team in the state.

big casino

Quote from: RDFT on December 04, 2006, 08:49:40 pm
Quote from: Father Guido on December 03, 2006, 05:00:12 pm
What was their average margin of victory, and where does that fall in their respective conferences?  hmm?

The whole point of the post was that although their offenses were the best in their conference (probably the state, but I've not looked that deep into it and don't have time to right now), their defenses were among the worst (in terms of points allowed). Both teams' margin of victory was among the best in their conference, and that adds directly to my argument. This was meant in no way as a bash on Greenwood or PA. Just a comment that if either team ever develops a defense that comes anywhere near where their offense does, watch out. They'd beat any team in the state.
They might beat any team in the state anyway.

RDFT

Quote from: big casino on December 05, 2006, 08:49:51 am
Quote from: RDFT on December 04, 2006, 08:49:40 pm
Quote from: Father Guido on December 03, 2006, 05:00:12 pm
What was their average margin of victory, and where does that fall in their respective conferences?  hmm?

The whole point of the post was that although their offenses were the best in their conference (probably the state, but I've not looked that deep into it and don't have time to right now), their defenses were among the worst (in terms of points allowed). Both teams' margin of victory was among the best in their conference, and that adds directly to my argument. This was meant in no way as a bash on Greenwood or PA. Just a comment that if either team ever develops a defense that comes anywhere near where their offense does, watch out. They'd beat any team in the state.
They might beat any team in the state anyway.

Thus my "so much for defense wins championships" comment.

Father Guido

I knew what you meant.   :)

These type offenses change the whole way the game is looked at, when you are trying to evaluate the defense on a team that runs the spread offense, you have to consider the number of possessions.  In the championship game, for example,  P.A. only scored on 8 of 15 possessions, Greenwood 8 of 16.  Normally teams only have 11 or 12 possessions in a game.  So with these numbers, with both of these teams having aruguably the best, high percentage offenses around, holding them to scores on 50% of their possessions, doesn't sound all that bad.  Does it? ;D

tep


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