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Title: End of game call
Post by: sevenof400 on December 05, 2017, 07:05:27 pm
Saw a referee make a very good call at the end of a JH game yesterday.

Home team leads by 3 with 0.8 seconds left in clock.  Visitor ball inbounding from the space between visitor bench and scorers table.

Visiting team throws ball to player in corner, outside three point line.  Ball is caught near waist and toward the sideline. 
Player catching ball turns, shoots and drains a three.
Basket is waived off by trail official (he had the clock in this play).
Literally no way the player could get this shot off in time unless it was a much quicker release.
Trail official had a good (unobstructed) view of play and clock in same line of sight.
Title: Re: End of game call
Post by: arreferee on December 06, 2017, 08:40:49 am
Quote from: sevenof400 on December 05, 2017, 07:05:27 pm
Saw a referee make a very good call at the end of a JH game yesterday.

Home team leads by 3 with 0.8 seconds left in clock.  Visitor ball inbounding from the space between visitor bench and scorers table.

Visiting team throws ball to player in corner, outside three point line.  Ball is caught near waist and toward the sideline. 
Player catching ball turns, shoots and drains a three.
Basket is waived off by trail official (he had the clock in this play).
Literally no way the player could get this shot off in time unless it was a much quicker release.
Trail official had a good (unobstructed) view of play and clock in same line of sight.

I have a feeling there were at least a few folks at that game (cheering for the visiting team) who thought this was the worst call they had ever seen.  :D
Title: Re: End of game call
Post by: sevenof400 on December 06, 2017, 09:25:04 am
Quote from: arreferee on December 06, 2017, 08:40:49 am
I have a feeling there were at least a few folks at that game (cheering for the visiting team) who thought this was the worst call they had ever seen.  :D

Oh, absolutely. 

I was trying to recall - isn't there a HS rule that says something to the effect of the only acceptable shot from an inbounds play when there is 0.7 seconds would have to be a tip - or is that a college rule? 

Title: Re: End of game call
Post by: Rulesman on December 06, 2017, 09:45:09 am
Close. 0.3 seconds or less must be a tip to count. Possible to get one off with 0.7 as in your scenario, but with the catch and turn, HIGHLY UNLIKELY.
Title: Re: End of game call
Post by: southarkdaddy on December 06, 2017, 10:00:15 am
It it the officials job to judge the time on the clock vs the shot release?  I kind of thought his job was to listen for the horn and judge where the ball is. 
Title: Re: End of game call
Post by: Rulesman on December 06, 2017, 11:00:15 am
Quote from: southarkdaddy on December 06, 2017, 10:00:15 am
It it the officials job to judge the time on the clock vs the shot release?  I kind of thought his job was to listen for the horn and judge where the ball is. 
Yep. That's PART of the job when the clock displays tenths. Ever try listening for a horn in a packed gym?
Title: Re: End of game call
Post by: southarkdaddy on December 06, 2017, 11:13:15 am
Quote from: Rulesman on December 06, 2017, 11:00:15 am
Yep. That's PART of the job when the clock displays tenths. Ever try listening for a horn in a packed gym?

No but it's easy when you're watching it on tv with instant replay
Title: Re: End of game call
Post by: arreferee on December 06, 2017, 01:37:30 pm
Quote from: southarkdaddy on December 06, 2017, 11:13:15 am
No but it's easy when you're watching it on tv with instant replay

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Title: Re: End of game call
Post by: South 45 on December 07, 2017, 04:35:34 pm
By any chance was it the Morrilton vs. Vilonia Jr. high boys game earlier this week???
Title: Re: End of game call
Post by: sevenof400 on December 07, 2017, 06:32:34 pm
Quote from: South 45 on December 07, 2017, 04:35:34 pm
By any chance was it the Morrilton vs. Vilonia Jr. high boys game earlier this week???

Yes, it was, South 45.
Title: Re: End of game call
Post by: South 45 on December 07, 2017, 07:49:18 pm
Quote from: sevenof400 on December 07, 2017, 06:32:34 pm
Yes, it was, South 45.
I wasn't there so I don't have an opinion but that call has been the talk of the town the last few days.
Title: Re: End of game call
Post by: sevenof400 on December 07, 2017, 07:57:18 pm
Quote from: South 45 on December 07, 2017, 07:49:18 pm
I wasn't there so I don't have an opinion but that call has been the talk of the town the last few days.

I can fully understand why Morrilton fans would be displeased (to put it mildly) with that call because it really was an excellent catch and shoot by the player.  I believe the player was Pinion and when he gets his stroke going, he can light it up from three.  He will be fun to watch over the next few years. 
Title: Re: End of game call
Post by: South 45 on December 07, 2017, 08:34:51 pm
I'm watching him make them fall right now.  ;D
Title: Re: End of game call
Post by: bluegrassboy75 on December 11, 2017, 11:02:43 am
Question, is there a red light that is behind the backboard at that gym?
Title: Re: End of game call
Post by: sevenof400 on December 11, 2017, 11:07:45 am
Unfortunately, there is not a light on the backboard at Vilonia in the main gym Bluegrassboy75.   There are clocks on both ends of the gym though - which is not a substitute for the lights but not does help a bit with seeing end of period/game.