2016 Finals Attendance

[Lumberjackfan1978]

Need to change the goal post out for the state championship games because it is a disadvantage for a team that kicks all season long and never attempts a two point conversion

[OB11]

Need to change the goal post out for the state championship games because it is a disadvantage for a team that kicks all season long and never attempts a two point conversion

So should they keep them up if Catholic was playing in the finals? 

[ricepig]

Sure, do you still think they shouldn't change something they can control?

How much does it cost to switch them out? Why is this year the "crying wolf" year? You would think the schools, which control the AAA would put that in their contract with WMS if it was a concern to the membership, correct?

[AT]

How much does it cost to switch them out? Why is this year the "crying wolf" year? You would think the schools, which control the AAA would put that in their contract with WMS if it was a concern to the membership, correct?

I'm not sure how much it costs to switch them out. Should be taken into account. Yes it should be if they are concerned.

"Crying wolf" implies crying about something that doesn't exist or matter. This obviously exists. Doesn't matter when the complaint starts if it's a legitimate complaint.

[AT]

So should they keep them up if Catholic was playing in the finals?

No, they should change them and Catholic should feel golden.

[WPWells]

IMO they should have high school goalposts all the time and change them out the one week out of the year that Arkansas plays there. That would make more sense.

[ricepig]

I'm not sure how much it costs to switch them out. Should be taken into account. Yes it should be if they are concerned.

"Crying wolf" implies crying about something that doesn't exist or matter. This obviously exists. Doesn't matter when the complaint starts if it's a legitimate complaint.

Why was it just a legitimate complaint this year? Where have you been the last however many years? I've never heard of anyone complaining about the goalposts before last week, now it's entirely possible I've missed it. I wonder what other states do that play NFHS rules at college stadiums, I guess they switch them all out.

[ricepig]

IMO they should have high school goalposts all the time and change them out the one week out of the year that Arkansas plays there. That would make more sense.

What about when UAPB or AB JUCO plays there, if they should do?

[WPWells]

What if they made a rule that in the state championship you can only pass the ball and then you got a game between PA who runs the spread and Wynne who runs an option game? It's fair because both teams use the same rules, but it sure changes the game.

[ricepig]

What if they made a rule that in the state championship you can only pass the ball and then you got a game between PA who runs the spread and Wynne who runs an option game? It's fair because both teams use the same rules, but it sure changes the game.

Did they know that all year, like the goalposts not having changed in 30+ years?

[AT]

Once again, the timing of the complaint does not matter as long as it is legitimate. 

I haven't complained about it. Doesn't make me lose any sleep at night. I just stand behind the fact they should change the goal posts because it is something that can be controlled and reflects the game equipment that 99 percent of Arkansas high schools use.

[AT]

I motion to make the title of this thread "The Great Stadium Goalposts Debate"

[Rulesman]

The price of goal posts isn't cheap. Besides the potential legal liability, why do you think schools have an army of personnel protecting them when there is a chance of fans rushing the field?

[WPWells]

The price of goal posts isn't cheap. Besides the potential legal liability, why do you think schools have an army of personnel protecting them when there is a chance of fans rushing the field?

Lame argument. That argument has already been put to bed. There's no reason they couldn't afford it.

[cuckoobird]

I rarely ever agree with rice but he's right on this one. It's the same for both teams. If you are going to make a goal post argument then perhaps you should throw turf in there too. Some teams don't play on turf all year but they will in the championship game. Smh

[AT]

I rarely ever agree with rice but he's right on this one. It's the same for both teams. If you are going to make a goal post argument then perhaps you should throw turf in there too. Some teams don't play on turf all year but they will in the championship game. Smh

Replacing turf: Not feasible

Goalposts: Feasible.

Very simple.

[ricepig]

Replacing turf: Not feasible

Goalposts: Feasible.

Very simple.

Looks, like you can purchase some adjustable for WMS for $6500, start a Gofundme........

[AT]

Looks, like you can purchase some adjustable for WMS for $6500, start a Gofundme........

Translation: I've lost any argument against this.

[Brian G]

The AAA just added to their payroll.  They are sitting on a wad of cash  If WMS doesn't want to or won't, the AAA can go 50/50.

[RazorHog13]

The AAA just added to their payroll.  They are sitting on a wad of cash  If WMS doesn't want to or won't, the AAA can go 50/50.

The AAA is the NCAA on a High School level.  Cash Cow out for the money...

[ricepig]

Translation: I've lost any argument against this.

You have, you shouldn't give up so easy.

[AT]

You have, you shouldn't give up so easy.

+1

[ricepig]

+1

My point about it not being an unfair advantage still stands, IMO. The part about the AAA or WMS swapping them out is a different matter.