How good of a job is this? Seem to have some talent, and the last coach seem to get them going in the right direction.
Great job if you can deal with players from Lake Village and Eudora fighting and don't expect any help from the administration. You do have great support from the 27 fans at home games and the 6 that travel.
Enough talent to win multiple state championships. Only needs someone to go in and put some discipline in and actually stay for more than a year. If the same coach stayed there for 5 years and half knew what he was doing I would say at least one state championship would not be a stretch.
Be ready to teach 7 classes, no junior high athletic periods, no administration support, bad pay, and a really tough conference. Other than that, it's a good job.
If you can understand the culture and get the kids to buy in, you can definitely win. Norton did a great job this year, and I know he will be extremely successful at Rose Bud. I just hope the administration doesn't make this a long process like most schools have done so far. It is important that they hire someone who can relate to the kids and get them to buy into what they're teaching quickly!!! If all of these things happen then Lakeside can be successful for an extended period of time.
Quote from: StrongDawg on March 08, 2017, 01:59:58 pm
Be ready to teach 7 classes, no junior high athletic periods, no administration support, bad pay, and a really tough conference. Other than that, it's a good job.
Spot on - sadly.
Quote from: WHITEchicken on March 08, 2017, 01:47:21 pm
Enough talent to win multiple state championships. Only needs someone to go in and put some discipline in and actually stay for more than a year. If the same coach stayed there for 5 years and half knew what he was doing I would say at least one state championship would not be a stretch.
With all due respect, you don't know much about the situation if you really believe that.
I know a little about the situation. I also know that there have been very few times I have seen them play when they didn't have the most athletic team on the field. We might not ever know if I'm right until someone who goes there and stays for a while and gets the kids believing in themselves we will never know.
Quote from: WHITEchicken on March 08, 2017, 01:47:21 pm
Enough talent to win multiple state championships. Only needs someone to go in and put some discipline in and actually stay for more than a year. If the same coach stayed there for 5 years and half knew what he was doing I would say at least one state championship would not be a stretch.
Just like Smorphlet.
Head coach and three assistant jobs open according to school website. Kids say only remaining assistant looking, too. Terrible. Looks like we gotta replace all coaches from best season and first playoff since '06.
The problems here aren't talent or coaches. We need new administrators. No leadership or support for our kids.
What happened here? Voluntarily leaving or forced out? Seems strange.
Quote from: gameoflife on April 02, 2017, 02:23:06 pm
What happened here? Voluntarily leaving or forced out? Seems strange.
They all accepted other jobs. Have had several teachers in the high school quit, too. My nephew is on his 2nd math teacher and 2nd english teacher this school year.
This seems like it would be the most attractive time this job has ever had. Will be interesting to see how it shakes out.. You don't often here of entire staff's leaving after a fairly successful year.
A lack of administrative support can oftentimes doom an athletic department, and that is the case for this school as well. From what I hear they are more caught up in the number of applications rather than finding the right candidate. I was also told that the kids have bought into the assistant coach that remains, but instead of promoting him and keeping a high morale and stability they elected to go through tons of interviews.
Quote from: southarkdaddy on April 03, 2017, 11:23:20 am
This seems like it would be the most attractive time this job has ever had. Will be interesting to see how it shakes out.. You don't often here of entire staff's leaving after a fairly successful year.
They were really good back in the early to mid 1980's.
Joe Pat Riley!!!!!
Quote from: Arkansauce on April 03, 2017, 12:56:34 pm
A lack of administrative support can oftentimes doom an athletic department, and that is the case for this school as well. From what I hear they are more caught up in the number of applications rather than finding the right candidate. I was also told that the kids have bought into the assistant coach that remains, but instead of promoting him and keeping a high morale and stability they elected to go through tons of interviews.
Heard the assistant is a young coach, not much experience, but from the area I think. Have heard several names, not sure if any are accurate or if my person really knows anything, appears it won't be much longer though. New coach should have a lot to work with. Lots of returners according to maxpreps roster. Hopefully they get a guy that can keep them going in the right direction.
Quote from: fromthehills on April 03, 2017, 11:29:29 pm
Heard the assistant is a young coach, not much experience, but from the area I think. Have heard several names, not sure if any are accurate or if my person really knows anything, appears it won't be much longer though. New coach should have a lot to work with. Lots of returners according to maxpreps roster. Hopefully they get a guy that can keep them going in the right direction.
What names are you hearing, because I've heard a few names as well.
Not going to go there on here. Not fair to those people if true. I'm sure all of them currently have jobs. But some experienced people have applied, not sure there is a "homerun hire" there, but maybe a solid candidate or two. Heard they started interviews sauce, you heard anything on that. DM if u want.
If all the staff but one left I would wonder if this is a job you really want? Sure would like to find out why they left before saying yes.
This program has been bad for years. It's going to take someone from the area, that understands the athletes, the situation and the parents to build a program here. It's the same story every year about Lakeside (Lake Village/Eudora). There are good athletes, no discipline, coaches act like they don"t care. Its going have to take a whole school community attitude for change to make this program.
Quote from: couldbetheone17 on April 06, 2017, 07:47:08 am
This program has been bad for years. It's going to take someone from the area, that understands the athletes, the situation and the parents to build a program here. It's the same story every year about Lakeside (Lake Village/Eudora). There are good athletes, no discipline, coaches act like they don"t care. Its going have to take a whole school community attitude for change to make this program.
You must not have saw them play. I saw every home game. Thought the organization and discipline was MUCH improved over the garbage two previous years. Coaches helped break a two year losing streak and make postseason for first time forever. That is why Green needs to be hired. He has support of kids, parents and the Eudora community.
Quote from: couldbetheone17 on April 06, 2017, 07:47:08 am
This program has been bad for years. It's going to take someone from the area, that understands the athletes, the situation and the parents to build a program here. It's the same story every year about Lakeside (Lake Village/Eudora). There are good athletes, no discipline, coaches act like they don"t care. Its going have to take a whole school community attitude for change to make this program.
Until the administration cares about football nothing will change. They had a good coach and didn't care.
Quote from: delta0911 on April 06, 2017, 08:20:17 am
You must not have saw them play. I saw every home game. Thought the organization and discipline was MUCH improved over the garbage two previous years. Coaches helped break a two year losing streak and make postseason for first time forever. That is why Green needs to be hired. He has support of kids, parents and the Eudora community.
How long has Green been coaching? Wasn't he one of the young assistants on staff? Previous experience? Where is he from?
This job is not an experience job!! This job is about who can relate to the kids and get them to buy in!! As a member of the community I've watched coaches with 30+ years experience not win a game here. So I take that word EXPERIENCE with a grain of salt. They just need to find the right fit for the kids!
Quote from: Arkansauce on April 06, 2017, 10:28:39 am
This job is not an experience job!! This job is about who can relate to the kids and get them to buy in!! As a member of the community I've watched coaches with 30+ years experience not win a game here. So I take that word EXPERIENCE with a grain of salt. They just need to find the right fit for the kids!
While I agree with your sentiment of relating to kids, there are way more things involved in coaching football than JUST relating to the kids. If he has all the necessary skills needed sure, but that doesnt mean they cant hire someone from the outside who could win the kids over. Its all speculation at this point. They should hire someone who will be there longer than one year for sure. Maybe a young coach like green could stay and continue to learn from an experienced guy on the other parts of it and be the man in the future if it doesnt go his way now. Good luck on this hire! Seems to be a critical moment for the program.
Quote from: fromthehills on April 06, 2017, 11:51:40 am
While I agree with your sentiment of relating to kids, there are way more things involved in coaching football than JUST relating to the kids. If he has all the necessary skills needed sure, but that doesnt mean they cant hire someone from the outside who could win the kids over. Its all speculation at this point. They should hire someone who will be there longer than one year for sure. Maybe a young coach like green could stay and continue to learn from an experienced guy on the other parts of it and be the man in the future if it doesnt go his way now. Good luck on this hire! Seems to be a critical moment for the program.
Of course there is more to the job I'm sure there's not anyone on this thread that's ignorant of that fact. I also know that the kids WON'T show up if the new coach is not someone that they know or like. I see these kids everyday and have heard them express this on multiple occasions around town. X's and O's mean nothing when you don't have the players there. If they don't go with Green, I hope whoever comes in truly understands the battle that they'll have to fight. I'm sure if you ask Green or any Coach that was on that staff, they could explain it to you.
I did see them play. The night i watched was players sitting on bench away from the team. It was just about whatever one had said about them. I understand the program and what its going through. I was just saying that the new coach will need to win over the players, parents(fans), administration. They need a guy that will be committed for more than one year. The town, players, school really needs that.
Quote from: couldbetheone17 on April 07, 2017, 12:41:04 pm
I did see them play. The night i watched was players sitting on bench away from the team. It was just about whatever one had said about them. I understand the program and what its going through. I was just saying that the new coach will need to win over the players, parents(fans), administration. They need a guy that will be committed for more than one year. The town, players, school really needs that.
Who were they playing? Nobody said everything was perfect down here, but this year was a major improvement from what I've seen the last 4 years!!
Fouke. And didnt say wasnt an improvement just saying that particular night was same ole stuff, that has been talked about the program.
When Lakeside played Smackover. They played them really tough. I could tell they had the talented kids. They just need someone to stick around longer than one year. But, that won't change until the administration starts to care..
I have the utmost respect for the L.V. athletes after watching them play this year, very physically gifted group of guys. I think if the program can find a way past the problems facing them (administration, coaching, etc.) then there is a bright future for L.V. football.
Community needs to sit down with the people running the school and explain how they feel about the football program and what they want for it in the future. You know the school board is elected and the superintendent works at the favor of the board. Parents make your wishes known.
Quote from: gameoflife on April 10, 2017, 05:43:40 pm
Community needs to sit down with the people running the school and explain how they feel about the football program and what they want for it in the future. You know the school board is elected and the superintendent works at the favor of the board. Parents make your wishes known.
All 7 fans at the away games could have a meeting.
Quote from: Oldman on April 11, 2017, 06:55:10 am
All 7 fans at the away games could have a meeting.
It's so sad seeing 30 kids on the sideline and 8 fans in the stands. One kid got taken in an ambulance one year and he had no one there to go with him so they sent a coach.
are there any coaches even applying for the job?
Quote from: Code3Cat on April 21, 2017, 08:13:36 am
are there any coaches even applying for the job?
Rumor has it an offer has been or about to be extended. They finished interviewing last week.
Quote from: fromthehills on April 21, 2017, 08:33:19 am
Rumor has it an offer has been or about to be extended. They finished interviewing last week.
sooooo who is it?
No name??
Quote from: old.dole on April 21, 2017, 09:48:09 am
No name??
Dont haveba name yet.....im working in that part?!
Probably the medicine coach from Smackover.
Rumor has it that it was offered to an asstistant of a 4A school with ties to LV. He turned it down.
Quote from: ea cat on April 23, 2017, 05:49:40 pm
Rumor has it that it was offered to an asstistant of a 4A school with ties to LV. He turned it down.
I have heard the same rumor, may never know but if thats who i think it is he was not offered and im sure he would have taken it. Not sure if he is a finalist or not, but i heard he interviewed and did well. Name im hearing is also connected to lake village but he is older than the said 4A assistant. Not sure where he works currently but i think he (older guy) has worked their before., not sure if 4a assistant did but i think so.
Quote from: ea cat on April 23, 2017, 05:49:40 pm
Rumor has it that it was offered to an asstistant of a 4A school with ties to LV. He turned it down.
Now there are two different 4a assistants with ties to lake village i am told, so maybe one of the two was offered and declined.
I heard the name Morphis??? not sure, The other was guy who been at a Mississippi school last few years.
If it was Morpheus from the Matrix then that is a great leader.
Take the blue pill
I heard that a decision was made today!!!!
Heard it was a Mississippi coach!!!
Quote from: Arkansauce on April 24, 2017, 01:22:30 pm
Heard it was a Mississippi coach!!!
That hasn't worked well in the past.
If it is a Mississippi coach they are speaking of, He has Arkansas roots and ties to Lakeside so has an idea of what is going on...
Quote from: couldbetheone17 on April 24, 2017, 02:46:35 pm
If it is a Mississippi coach they are speaking of, He has Arkansas roots and ties to Lakeside so has an idea of what is going on...
And so did the Coaches prior to Norton. Sanders was at Leland prior to and Werb was at Dermott. It's going to take more than knowing what's going on!
Quote from: couldbetheone17 on April 24, 2017, 02:46:35 pm
If it is a Mississippi coach they are speaking of, He has Arkansas roots and ties to Lakeside so has an idea of what is going on...
Williams at St. Joseph and Morphis at Hamburg are two names kids know.
Williams ar st Joe has established himself as a pretty decent defensive minded coordinator and has help lead and develop a good program at st. Joe. Morphis has just been a assistant position coach both been at lakeside before.. I think williams might be best fit.. not sure..
Quote from: couldbetheone17 on April 24, 2017, 04:56:10 pm
Williams ar st Joe has established himself as a pretty decent defensive minded coordinator and has help lead and develop a good program at st. Joe. Morphis has just been a assistant position coach both been at lakeside before.. I think williams might be best fit.. not sure..
Morphis is a coordinator at hamburg....just in the interest of presenting all the cards here. Neither has been a head coach so best fitis who knows.....and having followed them for more than a few years, what the coaches at Hamburg have done is great. I think we can leave the decent program part out of that debate. Not sure it would be a game between st joe and hamburg any of the last 5 years i've seen them.
Quote from: fromthehills on April 24, 2017, 06:18:40 pm
Morphis is a coordinator at hamburg....just in the interest of presenting all the cards here. Neither has been a head coach so best fitis who knows.....and having followed them for more than a few years, what the coaches at Hamburg have done is great. I think we can leave the decent program part out of that debate. Not sure it would be a game between st joe and hamburg any of the last 5 years i've seen them.
Now this is one sided as i have never had the honor of watching st joe play
But whoever it is that gets it best of luck with the job and hopefully they get it turned around!
Quote from: fromthehills on April 24, 2017, 06:31:33 pm
But whoever it is that gets it best of luck with the job and hopefully they get it turned around!
Well from what I saw this past season it's already been turned around. So whoever gets it should try to stick to the script that's already in place. Word of advice don't try to do too much or else you will be in trouble.
If someone gets it from Mississippi I would guess that it will be someone trying to double dip and won't really care about the program and then it will go back to what it has been lately.
Was morphis the baseball coach at Lakeside a few years ago that actually had them decent? One of the best coaching jobs I've seen along with their football coach last year.
Quote from: Oldman on April 24, 2017, 07:03:59 pm
Was morphis the baseball coach at Lakeside a few years ago that actually had them decent? One of the best coaching jobs I've seen along with their football coach last year.
Hes been at hamburg at least three that i remember and i think he came from a small school in south arkansas but cant remember the place. Not sure he would have been there "a few years ago" im under the impression he went to school at lakeside. If he coached there it must have been early on.
I could be wrong but that would be a first.
Quote from: Oldman on April 24, 2017, 08:20:47 pm
I could be wrong but that would be a first.
.....dude, you're not a woman
Quote from: Made on April 24, 2017, 08:29:16 pm
.....dude, you're not a woman
Did you just assume his gender? This is 2017. That's technically a hate crime
Quote from: Oldman on April 24, 2017, 07:03:59 pm
Was morphis the baseball coach at Lakeside a few years ago that actually had them decent? One of the best coaching jobs I've seen along with their football coach last year.
You must be thinking about Coach McDonald who's the head football coach at Beekman Charter in Louisiana and who should've been the head football coach at Lakeside 4 years ago.
Quote from: Longfellow on April 24, 2017, 08:48:02 pm
Did you just assume his gender? This is 2017. That's technically a hate crime
Nope, just stating that only a female is never wrong.
They are both graduates of Lakeside. They have both coached there before, and they both have moved on to get experience. If they are in fact in the running for the job. They both should have the heart and motivation to keep up the turn around. They will need some luck and help with the administration. I wish both best of the luck if either one of them get the job.
Quote from: fromthehills on April 24, 2017, 06:21:41 pm
Now this is one sided as i have never had the honor of watching st joe play
In doing some research, St. Joe for a small school (175 students) has consistently had 25- 30 players out for football for past 10 years. They have consistently sent players to the next level.
I am really good friends with Coach Green and he told me that Spring Ball is scheduled to start May 1. If either one of these coaches get the job are they gonna be there or are they gonna try to let Green run the Spring?
Quote from: couldbetheone17 on April 25, 2017, 08:13:18 am
In doing some research, St. Joe for a small school (175 students) has consistently had 25- 30 players out for football for past 10 years. They have consistently sent players to the next level.
Research? If you're from this area, they are well known. Recruit like a small college, hand pick their kids. Have taken many from Arkansas side of river. Public school association in Mississippi kicked them out, playing rinky dink private school league ball now.
I don't know the guy, not a personal attack on him, but St. Joesph success needs an asterisk as they blatantly and openly recruit.
Quote from: Arkansauce on April 25, 2017, 08:14:19 am
I am really good friends with Coach Green and he told me that Spring Ball is scheduled to start May 1. If either one of these coaches get the job are they gonna be there or are they gonna try to let Green run the Spring?
I would think whoever it is being one of these guys or anyone else if hired by then. Any new head coach would want to run spring and start implementing their philosophies.
Quote from: delta0911 on April 25, 2017, 08:33:28 am
Research? If you're from this area, they are well known. Recruit like a small college, hand pick their kids. Have taken many from Arkansas side of river. Public school association in Mississippi kicked them out, playing rinky dink private school league ball now.
I don't know the guy, not a personal attack on him, but St. Joesph success needs an asterisk as they blatantly and openly recruit.
Not sure about that but looking at Maxpreps and missfootball.com of the records and stats over the years.
Congrats to Coach Chris Williams on being named the new Head Coach for Lakeside Beaver Football!!! I wish you nothing but the best and I'll be watching!
Quote from: Arkansauce on April 26, 2017, 08:02:47 am
Congrats to Coach Chris Williams on being named the new Head Coach for Lakeside Beaver Football!!! I wish you nothing but the best and I'll be watching!
Give us some info on him.
Quote from: Oldman on April 26, 2017, 08:44:46 am
Give us some info on him.
He was an assistant here some years ago. Left and went to St. Joseph over in Mississippi as an assistant and DC. He's now returning as the head man for the Beavers. It'll be interesting to see how he transitions from coaching against primarily spread teams to coaching against old school power run teams, especially that FEARED McGehee Wing-T!!! ;D
Quote from: Arkansauce on April 26, 2017, 09:12:21 am
He was an assistant here some years ago. Left and went to St. Joseph over in Mississippi as an assistant and DC. He's now returning as the head man for the Beavers. It'll be interesting to see how he transitions from coaching against primarily spread teams to coaching against old school power run teams, especially that FEARED McGehee Wing-T!!! ;D
Maybe he can keep some of those Chicot county kids from going across the river to school.
Quote from: Oldman on April 26, 2017, 10:03:39 am
Maybe he can keep some of those Chicot county kids from going across the river to school.
Maybe so.
I've always thought that Lake Village could be a hot bed of talent.
LVLS won the district track meet yesterday.
Heard a rumor today that Williams backed out. Anyone know if there is any truth to it?
Quote from: WHITEchicken on March 08, 2017, 01:47:21 pm
Enough talent to win multiple state championships. Only needs someone to go in and put some discipline in and actually stay for more than a year. If the same coach stayed there for 5 years and half knew what he was doing I would say at least one state championship would not be a stretch.
The last time I watched Rison play them, I thought they had some good athletes - but not much discipline and coaching.
Hopefully some of the lakeside kids read this post and understand how much potential they have. Hopefully the admin reads it to and gets someone in that is going to stay a while.
Quote from: Code3Cat on May 09, 2017, 06:20:52 pm
Heard a rumor today that Williams backed out. Anyone know if there is any truth to it?
Not True!!!!!!!!!
What is the word out of spring with him?
Quote from: Da Truff on April 26, 2017, 10:58:30 am
I've always thought that Lake Village could be a hot bed of talent.
When them and Eudora first consolidated everyone thought that could happen....I think they won a couple playoff games when they dropped to 3a the first time...but nothing since then