After an MVP performance leading LRC to its first ever 5A Football State Title I was wondering why he wouldn't stay and finish his senior season with his basketball team? I'm sure this will greatly weaken the team's chances of winning a state championship in basketball. I get wanting to get on campus to start working out with your future team on the hill but if i'm not mistaken he would probably not be able to contribute to that team this season. Why not keep your commitment to your HS coaches and HS teammates and finish for them and your school? Its obviously none of my business but I think it looks bad to abandon his team which is obviously counting on their best player. What if the McBryde kid at Baptist Prep had left his team to early enroll at Kansas. I may be old school but I believe in doing whats best for the child but not at the expense of the team and program that are counting on them. Regardless best of luck to him at the UA.
Agreed. I think it's ridiculous. It's not like football where you enroll in the spring and can maybe contribute in the fall - this kid is enrolling early to practice basketball (which he'd be doing if he stayed in high school) and contribute in a year. I think it's more for media attention.
I think this decision has almost as much to do with education as it does with athletics. And I believe he could have graduated from LRCA before now, if he had chosen to do so.
Quote from: MDXPHD on December 03, 2018, 07:50:53 am
Agreed. I think it's ridiculous. It's not like football where you enroll in the spring and can maybe contribute in the fall - this kid is enrolling early to practice basketball (which he'd be doing if he stayed in high school) and contribute in a year. I think it's more for media attention.
He can play for the team after he enrolls.
I have never used language on this site like this, and there is a thread on the 2A board saying not to do what I am about to do...... But god, you guys make me question if you are lost mentally for criticizing him. It's his future to do what he wants and if he truly believes in himself like it seems he does then college basketball won't even be his last stop cause I imagine that is his dream to do more than that even so he is looking for a leg up. And to the person who thinks practicing with his high school team is the same as practicing with college level athletes on a daily basis is equally lost mentally. The competition level he will face now for an extra 6 or 7 months is night and day so he will improve more in the higher level of competition each day. Also, why are you criticizing a kid who was dinged up earlier in the year and comes back to put it all on the line for his school and win a football title when he probably should have worried about his own health and never played again in the first place. Why are we criticizing a kid for being so driven that he puts in all the work to graduate early and then wants to face tougher competition to test himself at a higher level. This may amaze some of you, but there are bigger things than high school for some of these kids with bigger dreams.
It's one thing to make general jabs at a program. Or at coaches or the fan bases (those last two are adults and can handle the criticism) ...... But to use kids in high school by name or use their number and team then go on to criticize their character which is what you all are doing is trash in my opinion. Why does he owe anyone an explanation for doing what's best for his own future and having the drive and work ethic to even allow himself to have this chance.
Quote from: beach bum on December 03, 2018, 09:47:05 am
I have never used language on this site like this, and there is a thread on the 2A board saying not to do what I am about to do...... But god, you guys make me question if you are lost mentally for criticizing him. It's his future to do what he wants and if he truly believes in himself like it seems he does then college basketball won't even be his last stop cause I imagine that is his dream to do more than that even so he is looking for a leg up. And to the person who thinks practicing with his high school team is the same as practicing with college level athletes on a daily basis is equally lost mentally. The competition level he will face now for an extra 6 or 7 months is night and day so he will improve more in the higher level of competition each day. Also, why are you criticizing a kid who was dinged up earlier in the year and comes back to put it all on the line for his school and win a football title when he probably should have worried about his own health and never played again in the first place. Why are we criticizing a kid for being so driven that he puts in all the work to graduate early and then wants to face tougher competition to test himself at a higher level. This may amaze some of you, but there are bigger things than high school for some of these kids with bigger dreams.
+1
Quote from: beach bum on December 03, 2018, 10:06:07 am
It's one thing to make general jabs at a program. Or at coaches or the fan bases (those last two are adults and can handle the criticism) ...... But to use kids in high school by name or use their number and team then go on to criticize their character which is what you all are doing is trash in my opinion. Why does he owe anyone an explanation for doing what's best for his own future and having the drive and work ethic to even allow himself to have this chance.
He's a college kid now. And his family willingly put him in the spotlight. Why should we not be allowed to discuss him? These are message boards. I guess we can all head over to hogville but better not mention his name there right?
Quote from: RamblinRazorWreck on December 03, 2018, 08:14:11 am
I think this decision has almost as much to do with education as it does with athletics. And I believe he could have graduated from LRCA before now, if he had chosen to do so.
Could you explain the education part? Heck I don't even think you can graduate early from your brother down the road because they understand that you aren't prepared for college at that time. I feel like it has a lot more to do with what dad wants.
Quote from: MDXPHD on December 03, 2018, 12:50:31 pm
Could you explain the education part? Heck I don't even think you can graduate early from your brother down the road because they understand that you aren't prepared for college at that time. I feel like it has a lot more to do with what dad wants.
Well, about the "brother down the road": there are kids that graduate from there all the time with 12, 15, 18 hours worth of College Credit already completed. I know of one student that graduated a year early, and was a College sophomore after his first semester on campus... basically skipped 1-1/2 years of school - by taking College Credit classes during the school year and online University level classes in the summer.
Quote from: RamblinRazorWreck on December 03, 2018, 01:36:00 pm
Well, about the "brother down the road": there are kids that graduate from there all the time with 12, 15, 18 hours worth of College Credit already completed. I know of one student that graduated a year early, and was a College sophomore after his first semester on campus... basically skipped 1-1/2 years of school - by taking College Credit classes during the school year and online University level classes in the summer.
Sounds like a great opportunity for those kids. I'm sure they get the same at lrca. But why does education impact his early departure again?
Quote from: MDXPHD on December 03, 2018, 01:41:22 pm
Sounds like a great opportunity for those kids. I'm sure they get the same at lrca. But why does education impact his early departure again?
Because education is a very high priority for his family? His dad has a PhD in Education and his mom has a PhD also.
I also believe he had done about all he could do academically in HS, and is mature enough to move on. There was talk last Spring about him reclassifying and heading to Fayetteville for this entire school year. That talk never included discussions of academic eligibility (that I know of), but only personal preferences. Seems to me that the only thing that made sense was he wanted to "stay" one more semester to play Football this year at LRCA... and it seems to have worked out well. Now he is ready to get a jump on his College education, while practicing to play "The Point" on "The Hill".
So he's going so that he can get a jump start on his degree that he's going to earn and hopefully he will do that a semester or year early too? I mean, if that's the case - kudos. I just think everyone else is seeing a different reason.
LRC would still have no shot at the title even with him
He wants to play in the NBA so this is probably his best route. Why in the heck do yall even care?
Quote from: MDXPHD on December 03, 2018, 02:22:47 pm
So he's going so that he can get a jump start on his degree that he's going to earn and hopefully he will do that a semester or year early too? I mean, if that's the case - kudos. I just think everyone else is seeing a different reason.
I expect he will have a bachelor's degree BEFORE he is finished playing ball in Fayetteville, and will probably get started on grad school as well... unless a professional ball career path pops up before he can make those goals happen.
NOTE: my original post was "I think this decision has
almost as much to do with education as it does with athletics." I did not say it was all about academics, nor did I say it had nothing to do with athletics. I actually implied that it had more to do with athletics than academics. :)
Quote from: scrapdig on December 03, 2018, 02:27:23 pm
He wants to play in the NBA so this is probably his best route. Why in the heck do yall even care?
I always thought this was a high school sports message board. I guess I'm confused as to why this topic is off limits to some.
Quote from: MDXPHD on December 03, 2018, 02:40:54 pm
I always thought this was a high school sports message board. I guess I'm confused as to why this topic is off limits to some.
Jealous because you didn't have that talent or mad because he isn't playing football. Smart young man!
Quote from: scrapdig on December 03, 2018, 02:50:48 pm
Jealous because you didn't have that talent or mad because he isn't playing football. Smart young man!
Na. Very thankful he's not playing football. He's a low D-1 football an at best. Would help as an athlete, just not qb
Quote from: scrapdig on December 03, 2018, 02:50:48 pm
Jealous because you didn't have that talent or mad because he isn't playing football. Smart young man!
Actually, I think I read where he is going to go through spring practice with the football team. Sort of gauge where he is.
Quote from: beach bum on December 03, 2018, 09:47:05 am
I have never used language on this site like this, and there is a thread on the 2A board saying not to do what I am about to do...... But god, you guys make me question if you are lost mentally for criticizing him. It's his future to do what he wants and if he truly believes in himself like it seems he does then college basketball won't even be his last stop cause I imagine that is his dream to do more than that even so he is looking for a leg up. And to the person who thinks practicing with his high school team is the same as practicing with college level athletes on a daily basis is equally lost mentally. The competition level he will face now for an extra 6 or 7 months is night and day so he will improve more in the higher level of competition each day. Also, why are you criticizing a kid who was dinged up earlier in the year and comes back to put it all on the line for his school and win a football title when he probably should have worried about his own health and never played again in the first place. Why are we criticizing a kid for being so driven that he puts in all the work to graduate early and then wants to face tougher competition to test himself at a higher level. This may amaze some of you, but there are bigger things than high school for some of these kids with bigger dreams.
I wasn't criticizing him. I believe the last thing I posted was best of luck to him at the UA. I thought this was a message board where discussion was allowed. Of course the young man has the right to choose among the options he has earned. I thought that was implied. IMO one of the biggest problems we have in sports and heck even in the real world is this I got to have it now mentality. Millenials want to start something today and be on to the next step tomorrow. Maybe this happens a lot but I didn't recall many D1 basketball kids skipping their senior year of basketball to transfer early to college. I could be wrong. I know a lot leave for prep schools to play their Sr year. Playing high school sports only happens once in your life and it used to be a big deal. I hate to see kids miss out on that experience because after that it becomes a business.
So let me just say so I don't "offend" anyone that I wish him nothing but the best!
I'll just offer this thought:
If Hill goes on to bigger and better things in college, his high school days will not have near the meaning they would have.
If Hill flames out on college, then yes, he might miss what might have been in his high school senior year.
But his development as an athlete will be far better served on a college campus than at LRCA. And that is not a shot at LRCA either - look at the access Hill is about to have to trainers, nutritionist, exercise specialists, etc.
Good luck to him
Quote from: scrapdig on December 03, 2018, 02:50:48 pm
Jealous because you didn't have that talent or mad because he isn't playing football. Smart young man!
+1 .... Have these people seen what getting a second contract pays after your rookie deal is over and you can go to the open market in the new NBA? I am seeing marginal players by NBA standards get 5 year/80 million dollar deals. Heck, JJ Redick made like 21 million on a one year deal lol cause the Sixers had they cap space that year. If a kid really has it in his heart that his something he is dreaming let him go for it in the best manner he sees fit. If he fails, then at least he gave himself the best shot at it.
JJ averaged 17 ppg last year and 18 this year. He's a good nba player. No reason to even mention Justice Hill in the same sentence as him. He's about the 10th best basketball player to come out of the state in the last 6-7 years. All you do is speak nonsense.
Quote from: beach bum on December 03, 2018, 09:29:57 pm
+1 .... Have these people seen what getting a second contract pays after your rookie deal is over and you can go to the open market in the new NBA? I am seeing marginal players by NBA standards get 5 year/80 million dollar deals. Heck, JJ Redick made like 21 million on a one year deal lol cause the Sixers had they cap space that year. If a kid really has it in his heart that his something he is dreaming let him go for it in the best manner he sees fit. If he fails, then at least he gave himself the best shot at it.
The legend of Justice grows and grows. His father's promotion of him is bush league compared to these boards. Now the implication is if JJ Redick gets 21 million imagine what Justice will get, he's much better than him. Don't forget to add what Tom Brady makes a year and add 25% (The Justice factor) and the shoe deal he'll get from Nike, should dwarf LeBrons. I wonder when JH will publish his cancer cure?
Oops, I misspoke. The average NBA player is 6'11, the average guard is 6'4. Justice is 6'0. Maybe he'll only get a paltry 15 million, bummer.
Quote from: MDXPHD on December 03, 2018, 02:54:16 pm
Na. Very thankful he's not playing football. He's a low D-1 football an at best. Would help as an athlete, just not qb
LOL D-1 LOL ok
Quote from: JessieP on December 03, 2018, 09:54:10 pm
The legend of Justice grows and grows. His father's promotion of him is bush league compared to these boards. Now the implication is if JJ Redick gets 21 million imagine what Justice will get, he's much better than him. Don't forget to add what Tom Brady makes a year and add 25% (The Justice factor) and the shoe deal he'll get from Nike, should dwarf LeBrons. I wonder when JH will publish his cancer cure?
Ha I don't think so. Never seen his dad talking about him and JJ Reddick before. Jessie hates the private schools because they own his team. Speaking of that how in the world are yall that bad in basketball Jessie?
This move gives Justice many more options both now and in the future.
He would have three opportunities this spring. He could simply practice with the basketball team, get better, help his teammates prepare, and get a jump start on his academics. If the opportunity came up (like an injury) he could actually play for the Hog basketball team this spring. He could also go through spring football practice and see if there is an opportunity there.
Getting a jump on his grades also will allow him to graduate early. That opens up the door for grad transfer opportunities (specifically in football) if the situation arises.
All of the options are legitimate and all could benefit him in some way.
Quote from: Chin Music on December 05, 2018, 09:22:25 am
This move gives Justice many more options both now and in the future.
He would have three opportunities this spring. He could simply practice with the basketball team, get better, help his teammates prepare, and get a jump start on his academics. If the opportunity came up (like an injury) he could actually play for the Hog basketball team this spring. He could also go through spring football practice and see if there is an opportunity there.
Getting a jump on his grades also will allow him to graduate early. That opens up the door for grad transfer opportunities (specifically in football) if the situation arises.
All of the options are legitimate and all could benefit him in some way.
THIS! Well done.
Quote from: MDXPHD on December 03, 2018, 02:54:16 pm
Na. Very thankful he's not playing football. He's a low D-1 football an at best. Would help as an athlete, just not qb
Low D-1 at best? Is that why Auburn offered him a football scholarship? He's a power 5 cornerback. He could maybe start for Arkansas next season at cornerback.
How many athletes can spend 95% of their time in the spring and summer playing basketball them jump over to football (first time as full-time QB) and go undefeated as a starter, while racking up 55+ touchdowns, 4,000+ yards, and winning the Gatorade player of the year award. Oh and led LRCA to their first state championship in school history for football. He's an outstanding QB, but imo his athleticism would carry over to more success as a defensive back at the next level. He's a dual-sport athlete with major D-1 offers at both sports.
Quote from: Central AR on December 06, 2018, 03:18:55 pm
Low D-1 at best? Is that why Auburn offered him a football scholarship? He's a power 5 cornerback. He could maybe start for Arkansas next season at cornerback.
How many athletes can spend 95% of their time in the spring and summer playing basketball them jump over to football (first time as full-time QB) and go undefeated as a starter, while racking up 55+ touchdowns, 4,000+ yards, and winning the Gatorade player of the year award. Oh and led LRCA to their first state championship in school history for football. He's an outstanding QB, but imo his athleticism would carry over to more success as a defensive back at the next level. He's a dual-sport athlete with major D-1 offers at both sports.
Easy there.... You are going to confuse all the haters with those numbers & logic about the kid who is by far the best all around athlete we have in the state of Arkansas.
Quote from: beach bum on December 06, 2018, 07:24:28 pm
Easy there.... You are going to confuse all the haters with those numbers & logic about the kid who is by far the best all around athlete we have in the state of Arkansas.
Lol I'll be more careful next time. 55+ touchdowns while sitting out 2 games... I mean pretty average, right? 😂
Nobody is disputing his athleticism. Beach bum likes to take things out of context and make up his own version of it so that he can whine about how mean people are on the boards.
Quote from: MDXPHD on December 06, 2018, 09:51:13 pm
Nobody is disputing his athleticism. Beach bum likes to take things out of context and make up his own version of it so that he can whine about how mean people are on the boards.
Face it MDX you're just jealous. While you, or anyone else on these boards, has never doubted his athleticism the fact remains you're being a hater by questioning his ability to be a D1 QB. You know who else are jealous haters? Max Preps, ESPN, 247 Sports, Rivals, CNN Si and Parade. Not one of those jealous hating ranking services has him in their Top 100 QB rankings. What do those National ranking services know? They are jealous haters and nothing more. It's not enough to admit he's a very gifted athlete with possible college football ability you must admit he is a D1 QB. Unless you want to be clumped in with all those other stupid haters, you know the people who evaluate talent for a living.
Quote from: JessieP on December 06, 2018, 10:15:28 pm
Face it MDX you're just jealous. While you, or anyone else on these boards, has never doubted his athleticism the fact remains you're being a hater by questioning his ability to be a D1 QB. You know who else are jealous haters? Max Preps, ESPN, 247 Sports, Rivals, CNN Si and Parade. Not one of those jealous hating ranking services has him in their Top 100 QB rankings. What do those National ranking services know? They are jealous haters and nothing more. It's not enough to admit he's a very gifted athlete with possible college football ability you must admit he is a D1 QB. Unless you want to be clumped in with all those other stupid haters, you know the people who evaluate talent for a living.
Pretty tough to be evaluated as a QB by these recruiting services when he just started his first game at the position this season and went to zero QB camps over the summer. He literally was in nobodies database as a QB until a month ago. They aren't going to evaluate someone properly with 12 games of footage compared to others with 30+ at the position, while they attend skill camps left and right.
Also, you rarely see an athlete have multiple 24/7 profiles or rivals for different sports. There are many examples of basketball players who excelled in football and should of been ranked in the ESPN 300 or whichever database you're looking over and they weren't because their focus wasn't on football.
Quote from: Central AR on December 06, 2018, 11:06:48 pm
Pretty tough to be evaluated as a QB by these recruiting services when he just started his first game at the position this season and went to zero QB camps over the summer. He literally was in nobodies database as a QB until a month ago. They aren't going to evaluate someone properly with 12 games of footage compared to others with 30+ at the position, while they attend skill camps left and right.
Are you at all familiar with recruiting? He was in databases week 1. Google Dorian Thompson-Robinson. He was a back-up wr/rb at Bishop Gorman high school. He played qb as a third stringer and appeared in a few games in mop-up roles. He had a breakout senior year and went from unranked to 4 Star qb in one season. Yes, many qb's participate in summer camps but if your a legitimate D1 college qb they will find and rank you.
Quote from: JessieP on December 06, 2018, 11:34:49 pm
Are you at all familiar with recruiting? He was in databases week 1. Google Dorian Thompson-Robinson. He was a back-up wr/rb at Bishop Gorman high school. He played qb as a third stringer and appeared in a few games in mop-up roles. He had a breakout senior year and went from unranked to 4 Star qb in one season. Yes, many qb's participate in summer camps but if your a legitimate D1 college qb they will find and rank you.
Do you realize Bishop Gorman is absolute factory and they play a national schedule for non-conference games... They have scouts from these websites tuning into every game. Awful example. It's easy to get a spotlight on you when you play for a program that attracts that much attention.
I have a close friend whose a scout for 24/7 and focuses on the basketball spectrum. They will use 99% percent of their time evaluating the summer camps and aau games. Of course he's close with other guys who deal with football rankings. Unless a player is playing for a nationally recognized program, they just don't have the time to watch highlights in season. They'll focus on that after the year but their time is spent at camps, 7on7, etc. If you think they have the amount of employees to actually sit down and run through footage after footage of random 5A Arkansas football, then you're full of it.
How jealous is Jessie P? It's truly embarrassing. Hill is such a good athlete he would start for us day 1 at QB. Mainly because we will have the worst line in the SEC so we need a freak back there. The guy is an Alabama talent athletically, if you can't see that you are a moron.
Quote from: scrapdig on December 07, 2018, 11:02:19 am
How jealous is Jessie P? It's truly embarrassing. Hill is such a good athlete he would start for us day 1 at QB. Mainly because we will have the worst line in the SEC so we need a freak back there. The guy is an Alabama talent athletically, if you can't see that you are a moron.
I can't stress this enough - the kid is a phenomenal athlete! I have only seen him play a few times and I can tell that. However, he's not a Power 5 Division 1 QB IMO (and plenty of other people's opinions). It's not a knock on Hill - it's an observation. There are several athletes that take over and dominate games at high school levels and they play qb because they are the best athlete on the field. That's just how high school works. You guys don't have to get all in your feelings just because people doubt how great of a QB Hill is. Good grief.
Quote from: scrapdig on December 07, 2018, 11:02:19 am
How jealous is Jessie P? It's truly embarrassing. Hill is such a good athlete he would start for us day 1 at QB. Mainly because we will have the worst line in the SEC so we need a freak back there. The guy is an Alabama talent athletically, if you can't see that you are a moron.
I won't call you a moron. I'd say your issue's stem more from huffing either spray paint or airplane glue. But my all means keep sprouting you delusional fantasies about Hill being an Alabama level qb. Keep telling yourself that, the problem is you can't any college coaches to buy it. See the reason you picked the wrong subject to hang your hat on, this one can be proven. You see, no one wants him as a qb. That is an established fact.
Quote from: JessieP on December 07, 2018, 01:30:49 pm
I won't call you a moron. I'd say your issue's stem more from huffing either spray paint or airplane glue. But my all means keep sprouting you delusional fantasies about Hill being an Alabama level qb. Keep telling yourself that, the problem is you can't any college coaches to buy it. See the reason you picked the wrong subject to hang your hat on, this one can be proven. You see, no one wants him as a qb. That is an established fact.
"No one wants him as a QB. That is an established fact."
You talk like you have inside information, which we all know you don't have. No one likes a poster on here who says something is factual when college coaches have said otherwise. Let me guess, you know what Coach Morris is thinking when he visited LRCA this week. What are your sources saying on what his conversations were like with their coaches. I mean you said it's a fact but if you knew that info you would start backtracking.
Y'all kill me with this nba talk. I think college will be a bust at the high d1 level.
Quote from: JessieP on December 07, 2018, 01:30:49 pm
I won't call you a moron. I'd say your issue's stem more from huffing either spray paint or airplane glue. But my all means keep sprouting you delusional fantasies about Hill being an Alabama level qb. Keep telling yourself that, the problem is you can't any college coaches to buy it. See the reason you picked the wrong subject to hang your hat on, this one can be proven. You see, no one wants him as a qb. That is an established fact.
Ha I never said he was a Bama level QB. Learn to read!
Quote from: Rudehog on December 03, 2018, 01:35:43 am
After an MVP performance leading LRC to its first ever 5A Football State Title I was wondering why he wouldn't stay and finish his senior season with his basketball team? I'm sure this will greatly weaken the team's chances of winning a state championship in basketball. I get wanting to get on campus to start working out with your future team on the hill but if i'm not mistaken he would probably not be able to contribute to that team this season. Why not keep your commitment to your HS coaches and HS teammates and finish for them and your school? Its obviously none of my business but I think it looks bad to abandon his team which is obviously counting on their best player. What if the McBryde kid at Baptist Prep had left his team to early enroll at Kansas. I may be old school but I believe in doing whats best for the child but not at the expense of the team and program that are counting on them. Regardless best of luck to him at the UA.
If he were at a public school I might be inclined to agree, maybe. But given that LRCA has been competitive over the years only by plucking kids out of other schools, (and even other states and continents) it is a bit much for them to demand loyalty.
Quote from: Rayburn on December 10, 2018, 03:57:29 pm
If he were at a public school I might be inclined to agree, maybe. But given that LRCA has been competitive over the years only by plucking kids out of other schools, (and even other states and continents) it is a bit much for them to demand loyalty.
If you are going to make a false accusation at least make up evidence to back your claim. Geez, talk anout lazy...
Wait a kid left high school early and went... To college?... What a tragedy!
Quote from: ArkansasSportsFan on December 10, 2018, 09:00:17 pm
Wait a kid left graduated high school early and went... To college?... What a tragedy!
Fixed it for you. :)
Some of you better realize you can not go after players here to the extent you can get by with on Hogville. Some are walking the line on bashing.
Quote from: Eddie Goodson on December 11, 2018, 04:46:18 pm
Some of you better realize you can not go after players here to the extent you can get by with on Hogville. Some are walking the line on bashing.
Does that go for any player at any level? Serious question. I've read the rules and didn't seem to find an answer. I'm sure I overlooked.
Quote from: MDXPHD on December 11, 2018, 04:54:20 pm
Does that go for any player at any level? Serious question. I've read the rules and didn't seem to find an answer. I'm sure I overlooked.
Read what I said. Not going to start a debate, discussion, or anything else. Rules here are more strict than they are on Hogville.
Quote from: Eddie Goodson on December 11, 2018, 06:04:43 pm
Read what I said. Not going to start a debate, discussion, or anything else. Rules here are more strict than they are on Hogville.
Thank you for finally stepping in.... No point in calling a kid out who is just 17 or 18 years old by name when he is still technically enrolled at LRCA at least for a week more. Petty of adults to do that imo.... Thank you again.
Quote from: beach bum on December 11, 2018, 06:34:03 pm
Thank you for finally stepping in.... No point in calling a kid out who is just 17 or 18 years old by name when he is still technically enrolled at LRCA at least for a week more. Petty of adults to do that imo.... Thank you again.
Gee, I thought he was 21😜😜😜😜. Only kidding!
of Course. Very clear now.
While the details of the question may have been inappropriate, the general discussion of this thread is very relevant:
HOW DO WE FEEL ABOUT HIGH SCHOOL ATHLETES LEAVING EARLY FOR COLLEGE? And how do we feel about high school athletes sacrificing (i.e., not playing) high school sports in favor of their college career?
There are some very good reasons for a high school athlete to move up to college early, if they have an opportunity.
RISK OF INJURY - If you get hurt playing in high school, it may destroy your chances to play in college. On the other hand, if you get hurt playing in college, you are covered (somewhat legally).
I know of a high school athlete that was a highly recruited softball player. She played volleyball, basketball, and softball. Got a knee injury early in basketball season, and ended up sitting out a good portion of high school softball season to make sure her knee was ready for college softball. [Her story turned out good; she plays D1 softball now.]
RECRUITING 'STOCK' - Just as we talk about "draft stock" for college athletes moving into professional sports, there is also an up-and-down interest in college athletes. I know a young man that had NCAA D1 interest after his sophomore year in high school. But, by his senior year, there was no interest from the D1 colleges. (He has a D2 offer.)
So, in this case, it may have been in the young man's best interest to move NOW on a prospect.
LIFE CHOICES - And sometimes, a kid is just ready to get the heck out of high school. I completely understand that feeling.....
Quote from: beach bum on December 11, 2018, 06:34:03 pm
Thank you for finally stepping in.... No point in calling a kid out who is just 17 or 18 years old by name when he is still technically enrolled at LRCA at least for a week more. Petty of adults to do that imo.... Thank you again.
Petty of adults to do that to private school kids. 3 years ago a player on Batesville was dragged through the coals here. His number and name were mentioned and there were numerous suggestions as to what should happen to him, some illegal everywhere but California. Now mind you the kid was flagged for the play in question and when a clip was linked here the feelings on the play were split among posters if it was intentional or "aggressive play". That's neither here nor there, the point was the kid was savaged and as far as moderators/administrators? Crickets chirping. This year a Blytheville player was named and insulted, again crickets. Two years ago I got a very stern private message warning me about calling a player out for "Goonish playing". I never mentioned his name, number or position. The player in the discussion had been suspended by the AAA (It didn't stand of course). Did I mention he played for a private school? Not only did no one say anything derogatory towards the kid at the top of the thread people we're warned that it was getting too close. Can anyone define too close? I say all that to say this, the rules are very clear to many of us. The line to never be crossed depends on your school.
I wonder why participation in football has dropped by 17% in Arkansas? 10% Nationally but larger here. Traffic on these boards has dropped as well. When parents or supporters complain about the short end of the stick the kids in public schools are getting we are told we're jealous. I think the wording was "Suck it and play better". When kids at a school like Blytheville or Forrest City are insulted it stands, when it's a kid at a private school the powers that be step right in. Hmm, I wonder why that is? It's a mystery I tells ya, a real mystery.
Quote from: JessieP on December 13, 2018, 07:56:48 pm
Petty of adults to do that to private school kids. 3 years ago a player on Batesville was dragged through the coals here. His number and name were mentioned and there were numerous suggestions as to what should happen to him, some illegal everywhere but California. Now mind you the kid was flagged for the play in question and when a clip was linked here the feelings on the play were split among posters if it was intentional or "aggressive play". That's neither here nor there, the point was the kid was savaged and as far as moderators/administrators? Crickets chirping. This year a Blytheville player was named and insulted, again crickets. Two years ago I got a very stern private message warning me about calling a player out for "Goonish playing". I never mentioned his name, number or position. The player in the discussion had been suspended by the AAA (It didn't stand of course). Did I mention he played for a private school? Not only did no one say anything derogatory towards the kid at the top of the thread people we're warned that it was getting too close. Can anyone define too close? I saw all that to say this, the rules are very clear to many of us. The line to never be crossed depends on your school.
I wonder why participation in football has dropped by 17% in Arkansas? 10% Nationally but larger here. Traffic on these boards has dropped as well. When parents or supporters complain about the short end of the stick the kids in public schools are getting we are told we're jealous. I think the wording was "Suck it and play better". When kids at a school like Blytheville or Forrest City are insulted it stands, when it's a kid at a private school the powers that be step right in. Hmm, I wonder why that is? It's a mystery I tells ya, a real mystery.
You are 100% correct sir, there is definitely a double standard on policing these boards. Anything close to bad mouthing a private school, and you get a silly pm and a stern warning, and the post gets deleted all together or vanquished into the infamous black hole of threads that poor mouths the so called elite private schools. I guess us public school rejects just need to know our place.
Quote from: JacketFan on December 13, 2018, 08:07:16 pm
You are 100% correct sir, there is definitely a double standard on policing these boards. Anything close to bad mouthing a private school, and you get a silly pm and a stern warning, and the post gets deleted all together or vanquished into the infamous black hole of threads that poor mouths the so called elite private schools. I guess us public school rejects just need to know our place.
I once got a warning saying I was awful close to bad mouthing Coach (Kelley). Awful close? That's like being pulled over for almost exceeding the speed limit. Can a boss get on to you for being almost late? In America we have an expression for almost late, it's called being on time. I mean I'm not stupid. I get that the day's of Walter Cronkite are long since past. Every news outlet has it's bias. The Patriots, Lakers, Celtics, Yankees even the crappy Cowboys are the darlings of their sports. It happens in every aspect of life, everyone has their favorites. The big difference is the news or pro sports makes a shallow attempt to hide it, they try and deny it but they know we know. Here on FF or the AAA the bias is not only up front it's mentioned on the masthead. My "Suck it and play better" was not my attempt at sarcasm, it was actually posted by someone of power here. It's like these forums are really just to praise a few schools and to watch the plebeians (Public schools) eat each other alive.
Quote from: JessieP on December 13, 2018, 07:56:48 pm
Petty of adults to do that to private school kids. 3 years ago a player on Batesville was dragged through the coals here. His number and name were mentioned and there were numerous suggestions as to what should happen to him, some illegal everywhere but California. Now mind you the kid was flagged for the play in question and when a clip was linked here the feelings on the play were split among posters if it was intentional or "aggressive play". That's neither here nor there, the point was the kid was savaged and as far as moderators/administrators? Crickets chirping. This year a Blytheville player was named and insulted, again crickets. Two years ago I got a very stern private message warning me about calling a player out for "Goonish playing". I never mentioned his name, number or position. The player in the discussion had been suspended by the AAA (It didn't stand of course). Did I mention he played for a private school? Not only did no one say anything derogatory towards the kid at the top of the thread people we're warned that it was getting too close. Can anyone define too close? I saw all that to say this, the rules are very clear to many of us. The line to never be crossed depends on your school.
I wonder why participation in football has dropped by 17% in Arkansas? 10% Nationally but larger here. Traffic on these boards has dropped as well. When parents or supporters complain about the short end of the stick the kids in public schools are getting we are told we're jealous. I think the wording was "Suck it and play better". When kids at a school like Blytheville or Forrest City are insulted it stands, when it's a kid at a private school the powers that be step right in. Hmm, I wonder why that is? It's a mystery I tells ya, a real mystery.
Good post. And yes football participation is on a steep decline.
Quote from: scrapdig on December 03, 2018, 02:50:48 pm
Jealous because you didn't have that talent or mad because he isn't playing football. Smart young man!
Exactly. Smart move by Hill I wish him nothing but the best. Where was all this talk when Ty Storey left Charleston early. Hmmm.
Quote from: ISU7 on December 21, 2018, 11:58:18 pm
Exactly. Smart move by Hill I wish him nothing but the best. Where was all this talk when Ty Storey left Charleston early. Hmmm.
Different sports. Different scenarios. Use at least a little logic, if possible.
If Hill is truly 6'0" he will have a hard time making it in the NBA, but it has been done.
I would be critical if he changed high schools his senior year just for basketball. I have no idea in 10 years if he'll be glad he made this decision but I can't come close to saying he should not do it. This is between him and his parents.
Quote from: RedWolf275 on December 29, 2018, 06:41:10 pm
If Hill is truly 6'0" he will have a hard time making it in the NBA, but it has been done.
I recently saw a posting from his father on another site that stated his height at 5'11".
Quote from: RedWolf275 on December 29, 2018, 06:41:10 pm
If Hill is truly 6'0" he will have a hard time making it in the NBA, but it has been done.
NBA??? 😂😂 this kid will get exposed on the D1 level basketball wise. He will go straight football or transfer after one year.
Quote from: MDXPHD on December 03, 2018, 07:50:53 am
Agreed. I think it's ridiculous. It's not like football where you enroll in the spring and can maybe contribute in the fall - this kid is enrolling early to practice basketball (which he'd be doing if he stayed in high school) and contribute in a year. I think it's more for media attention.
Oh my lol. Like some have said, he is eligible to play right away. I hope he redshirts, but he can in fact play. But if he doesn't play, isn't that exactly like going through spring practice for football? He would be practicing with the team in the spring and then would play in the fall semester just like an early football enrollee.