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Title: 2016 Outlook
Post by: DerekOxford on December 01, 2015, 01:14:06 pm
Sept. 3 Louisiana Tech W
Sept. 10 at TCU L
Sept. 17 Texas State W
Sept. 24 Texas A&M W
Oct. 1 Alcorn State (LR) W
Oct. 8 Alabama L
Oct. 15 Ole Miss W
Oct. 22 at Auburn L
Nov. 5 Florida L
Nov. 12 LSU W
Nov. 19 at Mississippi St. W
Nov. 25 at Missouri W
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8-4 (5-3)
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: WPWells on December 01, 2015, 01:23:56 pm
Quote from: DerekOxford on December 01, 2015, 01:14:06 pm
Sept. 3 Louisiana Tech W
Sept. 10 at TCU L
Sept. 17 Texas State W
Sept. 24 Texas A&M W
Oct. 1 Alcorn State (LR) W
Oct. 8 Alabama L
Oct. 15 Ole Miss W
Oct. 22 at Auburn L
Nov. 5 Florida L
Nov. 12 LSU W
Nov. 19 at Mississippi St. W
Nov. 25 at Missouri W
_______________________
8-4 (5-3)

I don't expect a loss to TCU. They'll lose Boykin, Doctson, and most of the defense.

Also, what makes you think Auburn will get any better this offseason? And I could see us beating Bama and/or Florida in Fayetteville
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: DerekOxford on December 01, 2015, 01:30:07 pm
Quote from: 12th Man CHS on December 01, 2015, 01:23:56 pm
Quote from: DerekOxford on December 01, 2015, 01:14:06 pm
Sept. 3 Louisiana Tech W
Sept. 10 at TCU L
Sept. 17 Texas State W
Sept. 24 Texas A&M W
Oct. 1 Alcorn State (LR) W
Oct. 8 Alabama L
Oct. 15 Ole Miss W
Oct. 22 at Auburn L
Nov. 5 Florida L
Nov. 12 LSU W
Nov. 19 at Mississippi St. W
Nov. 25 at Missouri W
_______________________
8-4 (5-3)

I don't expect a loss to TCU. They'll lose Boykin, Doctson, and most of the defense.

Also, what makes you think Auburn will get any better this offseason? And I could see us beating Bama and/or Florida in Fayetteville

This is just a rough estimate on Dec. 1. Subject to change.

TCU will still be good, but it is definitely a winnable game. That was probably the hardest one for me to pick.

Auburn will get better, I believe, because of the dual-threat QB they're bringing in. But the pressure is indeed on, on the Plains. If Gus doesn't win 9-10 next year I bet Jay Jacobs makes a move.

Florida definitely more winnable than Alabama, but if Grier is back for UF they will be pretty salty still.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: HorseFeathers on December 01, 2015, 07:23:14 pm
Quote from: DerekOxford on December 01, 2015, 01:14:06 pm
Sept. 3 Louisiana Tech W
Sept. 10 at TCU L
Sept. 17 Texas State W
Sept. 24 Texas A&M W
Oct. 1 Alcorn State (LR) W
Oct. 8 Alabama L
Oct. 15 Ole Miss W
Oct. 22 at Auburn L
Nov. 5 Florida L
Nov. 12 LSU W
Nov. 19 at Mississippi St. W
Nov. 25 at Missouri W
_______________________
8-4 (5-3)

Probably about right....
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: BrianfromCarlisle on January 02, 2016, 11:14:43 am
Just got commitment from Devwah Whaley at Under Armour All America game
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: WPWells on January 02, 2016, 11:19:28 am
Devwah Whaley!
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: BrianfromCarlisle on January 02, 2016, 11:21:24 am
That makes this class really nice. 
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: BrianfromCarlisle on January 02, 2016, 11:42:54 am
Agim is all over the place in this game. But they are giving all the love to Rashaun Gary. Go figure.  By my count Agim has 3 tackles already just now starting 2nd qtr.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: beach bum on January 02, 2016, 06:03:35 pm
10-2 & 6-2 in SEC play next year, 2nd in the West behind Bama for quite a good year.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Jacketman65 on January 02, 2016, 07:48:16 pm
If not, I'm sure we will want to fire the coach and get rid of the QB!  Haha
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Lionheart88 on January 02, 2016, 08:11:03 pm
Y'all, we may be losing a very good QB, one of the best RBs in Arkansas history, the best Tight End in the country, and two O-linemen.  (Yes, three of those are juniors, but let's look at the worst case)  That's just the offense.  That's a lot to replace.  I'd be wary of getting our hopes up too high.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: HorseFeathers on January 02, 2016, 08:14:17 pm
Quote from: Lionheart88 on January 02, 2016, 08:11:03 pm
Y'all, we may be losing a very good QB, one of the best RBs in Arkansas history, the best Tight End in the country, and two O-linemen.  (Yes, three of those are juniors, but let's look at the worst case)  That's just the offense.  That's a lot to replace.  I'd be wary of getting our hopes up too high.

Feels a lot like last year, doesn't it?
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bdubyab60 on January 02, 2016, 09:02:28 pm
Quote from: BrianfromCarlisle on January 02, 2016, 11:42:54 am
Agim is all over the place in this game. But they are giving all the love to Rashaun Gary. Go figure.  By my count Agim has 3 tackles already just now starting 2nd qtr.
Even during the one on ones it was the same. Agim was making lineman look bad and it was just like ho hum. He looks every bit as good as any player that was out there.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: BrianfromCarlisle on January 02, 2016, 09:06:23 pm
The only person that gave him credit was Gary!   He said he got his sacks because of the D end. Hmmmmm
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on January 02, 2016, 09:13:47 pm
That tcu game is a toss up. They won't be near the team they have been.


Arkansas favorite Italian will be suited up too for tcu. Vin ascolese. As hog fans melt. Also, Kenny hill will probably be their Qb. Tamu's old Qb.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bdubyab60 on January 04, 2016, 11:00:43 am
Hope we were on some TE's as well. Henry just announced hes going pro.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on January 04, 2016, 11:23:57 am
Quote from: bdubyab60 on January 04, 2016, 11:00:43 am
Hope we were on some TE's as well. Henry just announced hes going pro.

Jeremy sprinkle.
Will Gragg.

And I believe we have three others on the roster. We are fine at that position.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on January 04, 2016, 11:54:27 am
Quote from: bdubyab60 on January 04, 2016, 11:00:43 am
Hope we were on some TE's as well. Henry just announced hes going pro.

We don't need any for next season. We redshirted Gragg, O'Grady, and Cantrell, we'll be fine. What we have done is gone out and offered about 4 2017 guys who are highly rated, from coast to coast. Will we get any of them???
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bdubyab60 on January 04, 2016, 12:48:22 pm
That's good. With the way we use that position we should be able to keep it full of talented players. As well as OL.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on January 04, 2016, 12:49:05 pm
Quote from: ricepig on January 04, 2016, 11:54:27 am
Quote from: bdubyab60 on January 04, 2016, 11:00:43 am
Hope we were on some TE's as well. Henry just announced hes going pro.

We don't need any for next season. We redshirted Gragg, O'Grady, and Cantrell, we'll be fine. What we have done is gone out and offered about 4 2017 guys who are highly rated, from coast to coast. Will we get any of them???

O'grady and Cantrell. That's who I was missing.

We are fine at TE.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on January 04, 2016, 02:02:48 pm
Quote from: bdubyab60 on January 04, 2016, 12:48:22 pm
That's good. With the way we use that position we should be able to keep it full of talented players. As well as OL.

We are short at O-line, Bolles just committed to Utah, probably would have stepped into Kirkland's spot. We need at least 2 more in this class, problem is we are not on any highly rated guys, or rather they don't include us.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Valleysports on January 04, 2016, 03:28:40 pm
ricepig, just a quick side question, don't mean to get off track.  I've heard over and over, during the games, that Hunter Henry didn't drop a pass all year.  Am I misinterpreting?  I remember 1 right in his hands, standing in the end zone.  Posted a reminder when BA missed the next one and everyone said he lost the game. 
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on January 04, 2016, 04:06:10 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on January 04, 2016, 03:28:40 pm
ricepig, just a quick side question, don't mean to get off track.  I've heard over and over, during the games, that Hunter Henry didn't drop a pass all year.  Am I misinterpreting?  I remember 1 right in his hands, standing in the end zone.  Posted a reminder when BA missed the next one and everyone said he lost the game.


Which game?? I don't remember him dropping one, but I have no idea of he did or didn't drop one. I gave him a drop/fumble against Mizzou, I don't even remember what they ruled on that, haha.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on January 04, 2016, 04:40:31 pm
A pass went through his hands in the endzone at WMS.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bdubyab60 on January 04, 2016, 07:21:29 pm
I remember one at WMS that hit the crossbar and another well out of his reach. But I can't remember him dropping one this year. I'm sure he had to have had a drop somewhere. But if we can't remember many then there probably wasn't many.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bdubyab60 on January 04, 2016, 07:22:51 pm
Quote from: ricepig on January 04, 2016, 02:02:48 pm
Quote from: bdubyab60 on January 04, 2016, 12:48:22 pm
That's good. With the way we use that position we should be able to keep it full of talented players. As well as OL.

We are short at O-line, Bolles just committed to Utah, probably would have stepped into Kirkland's spot. We need at least 2 more in this class, problem is we are not on any highly rated guys, or rather they don't include us.
Hopefully we can get on some serviceable linemen then.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: DerekOxford on January 05, 2016, 10:45:59 am
I'm sticking with my 8-4 as of right now, but I could see 9-3 if they get some breaks and the freshmen are as good as advertised. Florida seems more winnable now than I originally thought. TCU also winnable.

I think low-end is a 7-5 repeat and high-end is 10-2.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on January 05, 2016, 11:22:00 am
7-5 to 9-3 is probably. But who knows.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Moonshiner on January 05, 2016, 11:59:41 am
They are losing some valuable pieces. That's where the Alabama and LSU teams continually get us.  They have a kid leave early and there's a 5 star redshirt waiting to take his place.  We lose a player, usually, and it may be two or three years till we can find a suitable replacement.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on January 05, 2016, 01:32:28 pm
Quote from: Moonshiner on January 05, 2016, 11:59:41 am
They are losing some valuable pieces. That's where the Alabama and LSU teams continually get us.  They have a kid leave early and there's a 5 star redshirt waiting to take his place.  We lose a player, usually, and it may be two or three years till we can find a suitable replacement.

That's why I find it silly when we compare ourselves to Alabama.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on January 05, 2016, 01:35:22 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on January 05, 2016, 11:22:00 am
7-5 to 9-3 is probably. But who knows.

I'm an 8-4 as of today, long time between now and Sept, lol. I had 8-4 for this year, probably not too much different.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on January 05, 2016, 01:42:08 pm
Quote from: Moonshiner on January 05, 2016, 11:59:41 am
They are losing some valuable pieces. That's where the Alabama and LSU teams continually get us.  They have a kid leave early and there's a 5 star redshirt waiting to take his place.  We lose a player, usually, and it may be two or three years till we can find a suitable replacement.

Like whom? The lost their QB, replaced him with a 3*/4* depending on the service, they lost a WR, did replace him with a 5*.

We have guy's at QB rated as high or higher than BA, so about the same, if AC goes, we have the #4 RB committed in Whaley, about the same as AC. Wallace was rated as high or higher than Kirkland on the O-line, Rogers before he was injured his SR was the #1 center to replace Smothers, and so on.......

Now, are our backups as talented, very doubtful.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: BrianfromCarlisle on January 05, 2016, 04:26:28 pm
My outlook.   I am going to owe Ricepig some BBQ. Dang it.  I hope not.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on January 05, 2016, 05:07:18 pm
Quote from: BrianfromCarlisle on January 05, 2016, 04:26:28 pm
My outlook.   I am going to owe Ricepig some BBQ. Dang it.  I hope not.

Hmm, I had almost forgotten about that, the important part being, almost......
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: BrianfromCarlisle on January 05, 2016, 05:44:03 pm
I wouldn't let you forget my friend.   I am a man of my word.  I just hope Alex Collins proves me right.   Lol
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: WPWells on January 05, 2016, 06:11:58 pm
I'm trying to remember. Which one had which?
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Moonshiner on January 05, 2016, 10:40:41 pm
Quote from: ricepig on January 05, 2016, 01:42:08 pm
Quote from: Moonshiner on January 05, 2016, 11:59:41 am
They are losing some valuable pieces. That's where the Alabama and LSU teams continually get us.  They have a kid leave early and there's a 5 star redshirt waiting to take his place.  We lose a player, usually, and it may be two or three years till we can find a suitable replacement.

Like whom? The lost their QB, replaced him with a 3*/4* depending on the service, they lost a WR, did replace him with a 5*.

We have guy's at QB rated as high or higher than BA, so about the same, if AC goes, we have the #4 RB committed in Whaley, about the same as AC. Wallace was rated as high or higher than Kirkland on the O-line, Rogers before he was injured his SR was the #1 center to replace Smothers, and so on.......

Now, are our backups as talented, very doubtful.

A lot can be said about experience and maturity.  Lot of difference between a 21 year old man and an 18 year old rookie.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on January 06, 2016, 08:14:31 am
Quote from: Moonshiner on January 05, 2016, 10:40:41 pm
Quote from: ricepig on January 05, 2016, 01:42:08 pm
Quote from: Moonshiner on January 05, 2016, 11:59:41 am
They are losing some valuable pieces. That's where the Alabama and LSU teams continually get us.  They have a kid leave early and there's a 5 star redshirt waiting to take his place.  We lose a player, usually, and it may be two or three years till we can find a suitable replacement.

Like whom? The lost their QB, replaced him with a 3*/4* depending on the service, they lost a WR, did replace him with a 5*.

We have guy's at QB rated as high or higher than BA, so about the same, if AC goes, we have the #4 RB committed in Whaley, about the same as AC. Wallace was rated as high or higher than Kirkland on the O-line, Rogers before he was injured his SR was the #1 center to replace Smothers, and so on.......

Now, are our backups as talented, very doubtful.

A lot can be said about experience and maturity.  Lot of difference between a 21 year old man and an 18 year old rookie.

Sure, have you every looked at Bama's or LSU's depth chart, it too much different than ours. 2 years ago LSU lost 10 Jr's to the draft, Bama will lose at least 5 this year.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Moonshiner on January 06, 2016, 04:15:49 pm
Well we've beaten LSU lately too.  Maybe the Bama guys stay around a little longer.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on January 06, 2016, 04:42:35 pm
Quote from: Moonshiner on January 06, 2016, 04:15:49 pm
Well we've beaten LSU lately too.  Maybe the Bama guys stay around a little longer.

Maybe so.......
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on January 06, 2016, 04:52:33 pm
I think it will be a slightly down year for the Hogs.

We have to replace the most important position on the team at Qb...gonna be tough...

Also, Florida will be better, all Auburn needs is a QB, LSU is loaded and those kids are gonna fight hard for Les next year...

I say 7-5, maybe 8-4...

I think the two years after next season we will be tough...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bdubyab60 on January 06, 2016, 10:19:56 pm
Coach B seems to be optimistic about next year, most coaches are. But during the presser after the bowl he talked about how big the junior class is. Definitely losing some key players. QB will for sure be a factor in how the season goes.

Any news on AC. I know coach was supposed to have a talk with him today.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Redwolves8526 on January 07, 2016, 09:05:38 am
Quote from: bdubyab60 on January 06, 2016, 10:19:56 pm
Coach B seems to be optimistic about next year, most coaches are. But during the presser after the bowl he talked about how big the junior class is. Definitely losing some key players. QB will for sure be a factor in how the season goes.

Any news on AC. I know coach was supposed to have a talk with him today.

The Buzz acted like he was gone for sure yesterday. Not sure what he can gain from coming back to school
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on January 07, 2016, 09:36:38 am
Quote from: Coach Venny Slocombe on January 06, 2016, 04:52:33 pm
I think it will be a slightly down year for the Hogs.

We have to replace the most important position on the team at Qb...gonna be tough...

Also, Florida will be better, all Auburn needs is a QB, LSU is loaded and those kids are gonna fight hard for Les next year...

I say 7-5, maybe 8-4...

I think the two years after next season we will be tough...

I'd rather play Florida next year then Tennessee. They have to find a QB and are losing 5 Jr's to date leaving for the draft, including 3 off the defense.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bdubyab60 on January 07, 2016, 10:42:03 am
Quote from: ricepig on January 07, 2016, 09:36:38 am
Quote from: Coach Venny Slocombe on January 06, 2016, 04:52:33 pm
I think it will be a slightly down year for the Hogs.

We have to replace the most important position on the team at Qb...gonna be tough...

Also, Florida will be better, all Auburn needs is a QB, LSU is loaded and those kids are gonna fight hard for Les next year...

I say 7-5, maybe 8-4...

I think the two years after next season we will be tough...

I'd rather play Florida next year then Tennessee. They have to find a QB and are losing 5 Jr's to date leaving for the draft, including 3 off the defense.
Not to mention the seniors.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Lionheart88 on January 09, 2016, 03:34:28 pm
Looks like we've found our new Offensive Line coach, late of the Buffalo Bills: http://www.nwahomepage.com/razorback-nation/report-anderson-to-be-named-new-arkansas-offensive-line-coach
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on January 09, 2016, 04:13:57 pm
Interesting hire. I say that because I don't know much of the young man.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: WPWells on January 10, 2016, 11:23:31 am
Alex Collins will enter the draft
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: HorseFeathers on January 10, 2016, 11:38:20 am
Quote from: Fred Bird on January 10, 2016, 11:23:31 am
Alex Collins will enter the draft

He finally announce it?
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on January 10, 2016, 11:49:50 am
Thanks Alex! For everything!!
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: WPWells on January 10, 2016, 11:49:47 am
I will not begrudge him anything. While I would have loved for him to stay, he gave us all he had for three years, and for that I am thankful
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: BrianfromCarlisle on January 10, 2016, 07:28:29 pm
Looks like I owe Ricepig a little BBQ
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: HorseFeathers on January 10, 2016, 09:02:17 pm
Quote from: Fred Bird on January 10, 2016, 11:49:47 am
I will not begrudge him anything. While I would have loved for him to stay, he gave us all he had for three years, and for that I am thankful

Can't blame him for going...top 5 rb in the draft...and rbs only have so many miles in them before they break down..
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on January 10, 2016, 10:48:09 pm
Carmouche decommits.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Jacketman65 on January 11, 2016, 10:51:01 am
Quote from: AirWarren on January 10, 2016, 10:48:09 pm
Carmouche decommits.
What is up with that?
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on January 11, 2016, 10:56:08 am
Quote from: Jacketman65 on January 11, 2016, 10:51:01 am
Quote from: AirWarren on January 10, 2016, 10:48:09 pm
Carmouche decommits.
What is up with that?

Reportedly says he wants to play RB, most think it's something else since he had few if any carries at at Manvel.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: mack on January 11, 2016, 12:31:42 pm
Quote from: ricepig on January 11, 2016, 10:56:08 am
Quote from: Jacketman65 on January 11, 2016, 10:51:01 am
Quote from: AirWarren on January 10, 2016, 10:48:09 pm
Carmouche decommits.
What is up with that?

Reportedly says he wants to play RB, most think it's something else since he had few if any carries at at Manvel.

Crud.... we really need linebackers.....................
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on January 11, 2016, 01:57:45 pm
Quote from: ricepig on January 11, 2016, 10:56:08 am
Quote from: Jacketman65 on January 11, 2016, 10:51:01 am
Quote from: AirWarren on January 10, 2016, 10:48:09 pm
Carmouche decommits.
What is up with that?

Reportedly says he wants to play RB, most think it's something else since he had few if any carries at at Manvel.

More indication that ole miss can kick our butts at recruiting. But barely can beat us on the field.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on January 11, 2016, 03:29:34 pm
Quote from: mack on January 11, 2016, 12:31:42 pm
Quote from: ricepig on January 11, 2016, 10:56:08 am
Quote from: Jacketman65 on January 11, 2016, 10:51:01 am
Quote from: AirWarren on January 10, 2016, 10:48:09 pm
Carmouche decommits.
What is up with that?

Reportedly says he wants to play RB, most think it's something else since he had few if any carries at at Manvel.

Crud.... we really need linebackers.....................

Yeah, and he was a solid 3* guy that has been on our list since he was a sophomore. He even was recently trying to recruit other guys for us. His RB teammate is an Ole Miss recruit and we supposedly had been trying to flip him, who knows.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on January 11, 2016, 11:39:31 pm
We now only have one OLB recruit...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on January 12, 2016, 09:16:19 am
Quote from: Coach Venny Slocombe on January 11, 2016, 11:39:31 pm
We now only have one OLB recruit...


We have several recruits, just one commit......... ;D
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on January 14, 2016, 01:56:59 pm
6-6
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: beach bum on January 14, 2016, 03:13:30 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on January 14, 2016, 01:56:59 pm
6-6

I see four automatic wins IMO.... Three non conference games and Missouri. Then I think Alabama will be a loss for sure. They're Alabama. That means we would have to go 2-5 in the other seven games we have a chance to win to finish 6-6. A few of those will be very tough to win but I'd say three of those seven we will be favored. 6-6 would be the worst case scenario with 10-2 as a best case.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on January 15, 2016, 09:02:48 am
Quote from: beach bum on January 14, 2016, 03:13:30 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on January 14, 2016, 01:56:59 pm
6-6

I see four automatic wins IMO.... Three non conference games and Missouri. Then I think Alabama will be a loss for sure. They're Alabama. That means we would have to go 2-5 in the other seven games we have a chance to win to finish 6-6. A few of those will be very tough to win but I'd say three of those seven we will be favored. 6-6 would be the worst case scenario with 10-2 as a best case.
See Toledo on the 4 automatic wins
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: DerekOxford on January 15, 2016, 01:44:02 pm
They are returning most of the defense, basically the entire WR corps and two starting OL. 6-6 would be a massive disappointment.

I think the only thing standing in the way of a 8-4 record is injuries or just really bad QB play, which I don't think will happen because Enos will have the guy that wins the battle ready to go.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: WPWells on January 15, 2016, 02:03:42 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on January 15, 2016, 09:02:48 am
Quote from: beach bum on January 14, 2016, 03:13:30 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on January 14, 2016, 01:56:59 pm
6-6

I see four automatic wins IMO.... Three non conference games and Missouri. Then I think Alabama will be a loss for sure. They're Alabama. That means we would have to go 2-5 in the other seven games we have a chance to win to finish 6-6. A few of those will be very tough to win but I'd say three of those seven we will be favored. 6-6 would be the worst case scenario with 10-2 as a best case.
See Toledo on the 4 automatic wins

See LSU and Ole Miss on the guaranteed losses. Weren't you the one who said 4-8?
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: fastdrop on January 15, 2016, 08:28:04 pm
I miss college football already. 2016 - lots of new faces for the Hogs. Should be a fun year.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: fastdrop on January 15, 2016, 08:29:27 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on January 14, 2016, 01:56:59 pm
6-6
or 7-5 or 8-4.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on January 15, 2016, 09:37:24 pm
Quote from: fastdrop on January 15, 2016, 08:28:04 pm
I miss college football already. 2016 - lots of new faces for the Hogs. Should be a fun year.

I was sitting at the Liberty Bowl with my youngest, he said, "Dad, I'm sad" so I asked him why, he said, "because college football is over for this year."
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: fastdrop on January 16, 2016, 04:48:49 am
Quote from: ricepig on January 15, 2016, 09:37:24 pm
Quote from: fastdrop on January 15, 2016, 08:28:04 pm
I miss college football already. 2016 - lots of new faces for the Hogs. Should be a fun year.

I was sitting at the Liberty Bowl with my youngest, he said, "Dad, I'm sad" so I asked him why, he said, "because college football is over for this year."
over the last 3 years my son got me involved in his and his buddies fantasy football league. This year they all decided to put in a 100 and make a pot of 1,000 bucks. Of course the old man won it. =) 600 first - 300 second - 100 last. Big year for receivers and running backs that are receivers.

next year some of us old guys on here need to do one. Get you, valley, bait, BG etc to join one. Do it for the FF crown. 10 teams is interesting and a good number.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on January 16, 2016, 08:35:32 am
Quote from: fastdrop on January 16, 2016, 04:48:49 am
Quote from: ricepig on January 15, 2016, 09:37:24 pm
Quote from: fastdrop on January 15, 2016, 08:28:04 pm
I miss college football already. 2016 - lots of new faces for the Hogs. Should be a fun year.

I was sitting at the Liberty Bowl with my youngest, he said, "Dad, I'm sad" so I asked him why, he said, "because college football is over for this year."
over the last 3 years my son got me involved in his and his buddies fantasy football league. This year they all decided to put in a 100 and make a pot of 1,000 bucks. Of course the old man won it. =) 600 first - 300 second - 100 last. Big year for receivers and running backs that are receivers.

next year some of us old guys on here need to do one. Get you, valley, bait, BG etc to join one. Do it for the FF crown. 10 teams is interesting and a good number.

For college?? My oldest is in some leagues for pro football, pretty sure a couple of those considered "gambling" in some states. Sounds good to me, I love showing Valley how little he knows about football.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Valleysports on January 16, 2016, 07:59:24 pm
I'm reminded, pretty much every day, about how little I know about most things.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on January 16, 2016, 08:40:38 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on January 16, 2016, 07:59:24 pm
I'm reminded, pretty much every day, about how little I know about most things.

Now, don't give in that easy, or I'll have to leave you alone. Got many ducks?
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Valleysports on January 17, 2016, 12:53:26 pm
Doing pretty good now, most hunters around here are not.  We're working our roosting holes in the afternoons - will slip in about 3pm and shoot small groups coming in.  We leave an hour before sunset, so we're gone when the majority come back in.  I only picked up 2 mallards this morning, where we saw a bunch yesterday morning.  We don't over hunt our good holes.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: mack on January 18, 2016, 01:07:28 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on January 15, 2016, 09:02:48 am
Quote from: beach bum on January 14, 2016, 03:13:30 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on January 14, 2016, 01:56:59 pm
6-6

I see four automatic wins IMO.... Three non conference games and Missouri. Then I think Alabama will be a loss for sure. They're Alabama. That means we would have to go 2-5 in the other seven games we have a chance to win to finish 6-6. A few of those will be very tough to win but I'd say three of those seven we will be favored. 6-6 would be the worst case scenario with 10-2 as a best case.
See Toledo on the 4 automatic wins

What do you want to bet they go back to having 2 a days? 
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on January 18, 2016, 01:11:46 pm
Quote from: mack on January 18, 2016, 01:07:28 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on January 15, 2016, 09:02:48 am
Quote from: beach bum on January 14, 2016, 03:13:30 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on January 14, 2016, 01:56:59 pm
6-6


How much you got? They practiced twice, they just used one of them as a walk through. You do know that the new rules prohibit two contact practices on the same day?
I see four automatic wins IMO.... Three non conference games and Missouri. Then I think Alabama will be a loss for sure. They're Alabama. That means we would have to go 2-5 in the other seven games we have a chance to win to finish 6-6. A few of those will be very tough to win but I'd say three of those seven we will be favored. 6-6 would be the worst case scenario with 10-2 as a best case.
See Toledo on the 4 automatic wins

What do you want to bet they go back to having 2 a days?

You do know that you can't have two contact practices on the same day, and that they are limited in both the amount of times you can have two a days, and the number of times you can have contact?

For days in which institutions schedule a two-a-day practice, live contact practices are only allowed in one practice.  A maximum four (4) live contact practices may occur in a given week, and a maximum of 12 total may occur in preseason.  Only three practices (scrimmages) would allow for live contact in greater than 50 percent of the practice schedule.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: mack on January 20, 2016, 08:37:11 am
Quote from: ricepig on January 18, 2016, 01:11:46 pm
Quote from: mack on January 18, 2016, 01:07:28 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on January 15, 2016, 09:02:48 am
Quote from: beach bum on January 14, 2016, 03:13:30 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on January 14, 2016, 01:56:59 pm
6-6


How much you got? They practiced twice, they just used one of them as a walk through. You do know that the new rules prohibit two contact practices on the same day?
I see four automatic wins IMO.... Three non conference games and Missouri. Then I think Alabama will be a loss for sure. They're Alabama. That means we would have to go 2-5 in the other seven games we have a chance to win to finish 6-6. A few of those will be very tough to win but I'd say three of those seven we will be favored. 6-6 would be the worst case scenario with 10-2 as a best case.
See Toledo on the 4 automatic wins

What do you want to bet they go back to having 2 a days?

You do know that you can't have two contact practices on the same day, and that they are limited in both the amount of times you can have two a days, and the number of times you can have contact?

For days in which institutions schedule a two-a-day practice, live contact practices are only allowed in one practice.  A maximum four (4) live contact practices may occur in a given week, and a maximum of 12 total may occur in preseason.  Only three practices (scrimmages) would allow for live contact in greater than 50 percent of the practice schedule.

You can do a lot in non-contact practices.  I don't think any of us on here would disagree that we were not as advanced as we should have been early in the year, especially in light of our previous late season surge.  Tech and Toledo lit us up offensively.  we needed the extra work on defense if nothing else.

Just sayin"...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on January 20, 2016, 12:10:26 pm
Quote from: mack on January 20, 2016, 08:37:11 am
Quote from: ricepig on January 18, 2016, 01:11:46 pm
Quote from: mack on January 18, 2016, 01:07:28 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on January 15, 2016, 09:02:48 am
Quote from: beach bum on January 14, 2016, 03:13:30 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on January 14, 2016, 01:56:59 pm
6-6


How much you got? They practiced twice, they just used one of them as a walk through. You do know that the new rules prohibit two contact practices on the same day?
I see four automatic wins IMO.... Three non conference games and Missouri. Then I think Alabama will be a loss for sure. They're Alabama. That means we would have to go 2-5 in the other seven games we have a chance to win to finish 6-6. A few of those will be very tough to win but I'd say three of those seven we will be favored. 6-6 would be the worst case scenario with 10-2 as a best case.
See Toledo on the 4 automatic wins

What do you want to bet they go back to having 2 a days?

You do know that you can't have two contact practices on the same day, and that they are limited in both the amount of times you can have two a days, and the number of times you can have contact?

For days in which institutions schedule a two-a-day practice, live contact practices are only allowed in one practice.  A maximum four (4) live contact practices may occur in a given week, and a maximum of 12 total may occur in preseason.  Only three practices (scrimmages) would allow for live contact in greater than 50 percent of the practice schedule.

You can do a lot in non-contact practices.  I don't think any of us on here would disagree that we were not as advanced as we should have been early in the year, especially in light of our previous late season surge.  Tech and Toledo lit us up offensively.  we needed the extra work on defense if nothing else.

Just sayin"...

We had "two a days" we just used them as teaching/film/walk through sessions. The days of two a days are over, it's just the world we life in today. I think they probably put more "work" into our passing game in preseason, knowing we would need it in conference games to be successful. I suspect we will put more emphasis on the running game this preseason, than last year. I think they thought we could just line up and run it down the throats of Toledo and Tech, obviously it wasn't correct.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on January 21, 2016, 08:48:25 am
Quote from: Fred Bird on January 15, 2016, 02:03:42 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on January 15, 2016, 09:02:48 am
Quote from: beach bum on January 14, 2016, 03:13:30 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on January 14, 2016, 01:56:59 pm
6-6

I see four automatic wins IMO.... Three non conference games and Missouri. Then I think Alabama will be a loss for sure. They're Alabama. That means we would have to go 2-5 in the other seven games we have a chance to win to finish 6-6. A few of those will be very tough to win but I'd say three of those seven we will be favored. 6-6 would be the worst case scenario with 10-2 as a best case.
See Toledo on the 4 automatic wins

See LSU and Ole Miss on the guaranteed losses. Weren't you the one who said 4-8?
Nope, I said 5-7 with 7-5 being the highest. hmmmmm looks like I hit the jackpot. weren't you the one who said 12-0?
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: WPWells on January 21, 2016, 09:18:27 am
Nope
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on January 21, 2016, 09:39:58 am
Quote from: cuckoobird on January 21, 2016, 08:48:25 am
Quote from: Fred Bird on January 15, 2016, 02:03:42 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on January 15, 2016, 09:02:48 am
Quote from: beach bum on January 14, 2016, 03:13:30 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on January 14, 2016, 01:56:59 pm
6-6

I see four automatic wins IMO.... Three non conference games and Missouri. Then I think Alabama will be a loss for sure. They're Alabama. That means we would have to go 2-5 in the other seven games we have a chance to win to finish 6-6. A few of those will be very tough to win but I'd say three of those seven we will be favored. 6-6 would be the worst case scenario with 10-2 as a best case.
See Toledo on the 4 automatic wins

See LSU and Ole Miss on the guaranteed losses. Weren't you the one who said 4-8?
Nope, I said 5-7 with 7-5 being the highest. hmmmmm looks like I hit the jackpot. weren't you the one who said 12-0?

You said 5-7, do I need to pull up the quote from here?

http://www.fearlessfriday.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=142573.0
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on January 21, 2016, 02:20:27 pm
Quote from: Fred Bird on January 21, 2016, 09:18:27 am
Nope
my bad, 11-1 but you did say 12 wins so I guess you meant we would win either a bowl game or sec title game




@RP my posts were removed from the thread I said that in
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on January 21, 2016, 03:21:03 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on January 21, 2016, 02:20:27 pm
Quote from: Fred Bird on January 21, 2016, 09:18:27 am
Nope
my bad, 11-1 but you did say 12 wins so I guess you meant we would win either a bowl game or sec title game




@RP my posts were removed from the thread I said that in

So, we're allowed a two game swing on our predictions, that makes them easier, haha.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Lumberjackfan1978 on January 21, 2016, 07:10:49 pm
Quote from: ricepig on January 20, 2016, 12:10:26 pm
Quote from: mack on January 20, 2016, 08:37:11 am
Quote from: ricepig on January 18, 2016, 01:11:46 pm
Quote from: mack on January 18, 2016, 01:07:28 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on January 15, 2016, 09:02:48 am
Quote from: beach bum on January 14, 2016, 03:13:30 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on January 14, 2016, 01:56:59 pm
6-6


How much you got? They practiced twice, they just used one of them as a walk through. You do know that the new rules prohibit two contact practices on the same day?
I see four automatic wins IMO.... Three non conference games and Missouri. Then I think Alabama will be a loss for sure. They're Alabama. That means we would have to go 2-5 in the other seven games we have a chance to win to finish 6-6. A few of those will be very tough to win but I'd say three of those seven we will be favored. 6-6 would be the worst case scenario with 10-2 as a best case.
See Toledo on the 4 automatic wins

What do you want to bet they go back to having 2 a days?

You do know that you can't have two contact practices on the same day, and that they are limited in both the amount of times you can have two a days, and the number of times you can have contact?

For days in which institutions schedule a two-a-day practice, live contact practices are only allowed in one practice.  A maximum four (4) live contact practices may occur in a given week, and a maximum of 12 total may occur in preseason.  Only three practices (scrimmages) would allow for live contact in greater than 50 percent of the practice schedule.

You can do a lot in non-contact practices.  I don't think any of us on here would disagree that we were not as advanced as we should have been early in the year, especially in light of our previous late season surge.  Tech and Toledo lit us up offensively.  we needed the extra work on defense if nothing else.

Just sayin"...

We had "two a days" we just used them as teaching/film/walk through sessions. The days of two a days are over, it's just the world we life in today. I think they probably put more "work" into our passing game in preseason, knowing we would need it in conference games to be successful. I suspect we will put more emphasis on the running game this preseason, than last year. I think they thought we could just line up and run it down the throats of Toledo and Tech, obviously it wasn't correct.
yep you're right 2 a days are gone and a lot of the physical practices are to did it forever but things change sometimes not for the better though
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on January 25, 2016, 11:09:17 am
Quote from: ricepig on January 21, 2016, 03:21:03 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on January 21, 2016, 02:20:27 pm
Quote from: Fred Bird on January 21, 2016, 09:18:27 am
Nope
my bad, 11-1 but you did say 12 wins so I guess you meant we would win either a bowl game or sec title game




@RP my posts were removed from the thread I said that in

So, we're allowed a two game swing on our predictions, that makes them easier, haha.
well you have a prediction and then you have a realization that if everything goes right it's this and if everything goes wrong it's this. Everything went right
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on January 25, 2016, 11:30:35 am
Quote from: cuckoobird on January 25, 2016, 11:09:17 am
Quote from: ricepig on January 21, 2016, 03:21:03 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on January 21, 2016, 02:20:27 pm
Quote from: Fred Bird on January 21, 2016, 09:18:27 am
Nope
my bad, 11-1 but you did say 12 wins so I guess you meant we would win either a bowl game or sec title game




@RP my posts were removed from the thread I said that in

So, we're allowed a two game swing on our predictions, that makes them easier, haha.
well you have a prediction and then you have a realization that if everything goes right it's this and if everything goes wrong it's this. Everything went right

Ok, so, I'm going with 0-12 and 15-0, that should cover it.......
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on January 25, 2016, 11:49:18 am
Quote from: ricepig on January 25, 2016, 11:30:35 am
Quote from: cuckoobird on January 25, 2016, 11:09:17 am
Quote from: ricepig on January 21, 2016, 03:21:03 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on January 21, 2016, 02:20:27 pm
Quote from: Fred Bird on January 21, 2016, 09:18:27 am
Nope
my bad, 11-1 but you did say 12 wins so I guess you meant we would win either a bowl game or sec title game




@RP my posts were removed from the thread I said that in

So, we're allowed a two game swing on our predictions, that makes them easier, haha.
well you have a prediction and then you have a realization that if everything goes right it's this and if everything goes wrong it's this. Everything went right

Ok, so, I'm going with 0-12 and 15-0, that should cover it.......
wouldn't be any more unrealistic than your other predictions.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on January 25, 2016, 01:20:29 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on January 25, 2016, 11:49:18 am
Quote from: ricepig on January 25, 2016, 11:30:35 am
Quote from: cuckoobird on January 25, 2016, 11:09:17 am
Quote from: ricepig on January 21, 2016, 03:21:03 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on January 21, 2016, 02:20:27 pm
Quote from: Fred Bird on January 21, 2016, 09:18:27 am
Nope
my bad, 11-1 but you did say 12 wins so I guess you meant we would win either a bowl game or sec title game




@RP my posts were removed from the thread I said that in

So, we're allowed a two game swing on our predictions, that makes them easier, haha.
well you have a prediction and then you have a realization that if everything goes right it's this and if everything goes wrong it's this. Everything went right

Ok, so, I'm going with 0-12 and 15-0, that should cover it.......
wouldn't be any more unrealistic than your other predictions.

I picked 8-4, that was real unrealistic, and if I remember correctly, I owned you the year before, lol.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on January 25, 2016, 01:24:21 pm
Quote from: ricepig on January 25, 2016, 01:20:29 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on January 25, 2016, 11:49:18 am
Quote from: ricepig on January 25, 2016, 11:30:35 am
Quote from: cuckoobird on January 25, 2016, 11:09:17 am
Quote from: ricepig on January 21, 2016, 03:21:03 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on January 21, 2016, 02:20:27 pm
Quote from: Fred Bird on January 21, 2016, 09:18:27 am
Nope
my bad, 11-1 but you did say 12 wins so I guess you meant we would win either a bowl game or sec title game




@RP my posts were removed from the thread I said that in

So, we're allowed a two game swing on our predictions, that makes them easier, haha.
well you have a prediction and then you have a realization that if everything goes right it's this and if everything goes wrong it's this. Everything went right

Ok, so, I'm going with 0-12 and 15-0, that should cover it.......
wouldn't be any more unrealistic than your other predictions.

I picked 8-4, that was real unrealistic, and if I remember correctly, I owned you the year before, lol.
It was unrealistic when the best was 7-5
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on January 25, 2016, 01:27:47 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on January 25, 2016, 01:24:21 pm
Quote from: ricepig on January 25, 2016, 01:20:29 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on January 25, 2016, 11:49:18 am
Quote from: ricepig on January 25, 2016, 11:30:35 am
Quote from: cuckoobird on January 25, 2016, 11:09:17 am
Quote from: ricepig on January 21, 2016, 03:21:03 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on January 21, 2016, 02:20:27 pm
Quote from: Fred Bird on January 21, 2016, 09:18:27 am
Nope
my bad, 11-1 but you did say 12 wins so I guess you meant we would win either a bowl game or sec title game




@RP my posts were removed from the thread I said that in

So, we're allowed a two game swing on our predictions, that makes them easier, haha.
well you have a prediction and then you have a realization that if everything goes right it's this and if everything goes wrong it's this. Everything went right

Ok, so, I'm going with 0-12 and 15-0, that should cover it.......
wouldn't be any more unrealistic than your other predictions.

I picked 8-4, that was real unrealistic, and if I remember correctly, I owned you the year before, lol.
It was unrealistic when the best was 7-5

Well, then, your 5-7 was horrific in comparison.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on January 25, 2016, 01:30:16 pm
Quote from: ricepig on January 25, 2016, 01:27:47 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on January 25, 2016, 01:24:21 pm
Quote from: ricepig on January 25, 2016, 01:20:29 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on January 25, 2016, 11:49:18 am
Quote from: ricepig on January 25, 2016, 11:30:35 am
Quote from: cuckoobird on January 25, 2016, 11:09:17 am
Quote from: ricepig on January 21, 2016, 03:21:03 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on January 21, 2016, 02:20:27 pm
Quote from: Fred Bird on January 21, 2016, 09:18:27 am
Nope
my bad, 11-1 but you did say 12 wins so I guess you meant we would win either a bowl game or sec title game




@RP my posts were removed from the thread I said that in

So, we're allowed a two game swing on our predictions, that makes them easier, haha.
well you have a prediction and then you have a realization that if everything goes right it's this and if everything goes wrong it's this. Everything went right

Ok, so, I'm going with 0-12 and 15-0, that should cover it.......
wouldn't be any more unrealistic than your other predictions.

I picked 8-4, that was real unrealistic, and if I remember correctly, I owned you the year before, lol.
It was unrealistic when the best was 7-5

Well, then, your 5-7 was horrific in comparison.
closest without going over
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on January 25, 2016, 01:38:06 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on January 25, 2016, 01:30:16 pm
Quote from: ricepig on January 25, 2016, 01:27:47 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on January 25, 2016, 01:24:21 pm
Quote from: ricepig on January 25, 2016, 01:20:29 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on January 25, 2016, 11:49:18 am
Quote from: ricepig on January 25, 2016, 11:30:35 am
Quote from: cuckoobird on January 25, 2016, 11:09:17 am
Quote from: ricepig on January 21, 2016, 03:21:03 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on January 21, 2016, 02:20:27 pm
Quote from: Fred Bird on January 21, 2016, 09:18:27 am
Nope
my bad, 11-1 but you did say 12 wins so I guess you meant we would win either a bowl game or sec title game




@RP my posts were removed from the thread I said that in

So, we're allowed a two game swing on our predictions, that makes them easier, haha.
well you have a prediction and then you have a realization that if everything goes right it's this and if everything goes wrong it's this. Everything went right

Ok, so, I'm going with 0-12 and 15-0, that should cover it.......
wouldn't be any more unrealistic than your other predictions.

I picked 8-4, that was real unrealistic, and if I remember correctly, I owned you the year before, lol.
It was unrealistic when the best was 7-5

Well, then, your 5-7 was horrific in comparison.
closest without going over

This isn't Price is Right........
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bdubyab60 on January 25, 2016, 04:27:43 pm
3 guesses and pick the closest one.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on January 25, 2016, 04:50:45 pm
I see they are seeking approval to a DWRRS renovation. A 160$ million dollar one.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on January 25, 2016, 05:22:54 pm
https://twitter.com/ArkRazorbacks/status/691746884256313345
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on January 25, 2016, 06:45:32 pm
For 160 million, I figured it would be bowled in. I'm not really impressed with that design.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on January 25, 2016, 07:19:03 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on January 25, 2016, 06:45:32 pm
For 160 million, I figured it would be bowled in. I'm not really impressed with that design.

The lower deck will be bowled in, they never had any plans to do the top deck. There will be standing room areas(cheap) on the top. Also, the east end will have a clear glass so you can look into the stadium like you can now from the north end of Stadium Dr. I was surprised at the price tag too, I believe when they put out the Master plan for improvements in 2013 it was estimated to cost $100m. This is for suites, club level, and loge seating. They are planning to lower the upper deck prices, from my understanding.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: SUGARTOWN on January 26, 2016, 10:42:58 am
Quote from: ricepig on January 25, 2016, 07:19:03 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on January 25, 2016, 06:45:32 pm
For 160 million, I figured it would be bowled in. I'm not really impressed with that design.

The lower deck will be bowled in, they never had any plans to do the top deck. There will be standing room areas(cheap) on the top. Also, the east end will have a clear glass so you can look into the stadium like you can now from the north end of Stadium Dr. I was surprised at the price tag too, I believe when they put out the Master plan for improvements in 2013 it was estimated to cost $100m. This is for suites, club level, and loge seating. They are planning to lower the upper deck prices, from my understanding.

They can lower the upper deck prices all they want, they still won't be filled on a regular basis.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on January 26, 2016, 11:01:22 am
Quote from: SUGARTOWN on January 26, 2016, 10:42:58 am
Quote from: ricepig on January 25, 2016, 07:19:03 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on January 25, 2016, 06:45:32 pm
For 160 million, I figured it would be bowled in. I'm not really impressed with that design.

The lower deck will be bowled in, they never had any plans to do the top deck. There will be standing room areas(cheap) on the top. Also, the east end will have a clear glass so you can look into the stadium like you can now from the north end of Stadium Dr. I was surprised at the price tag too, I believe when they put out the Master plan for improvements in 2013 it was estimated to cost $100m. This is for suites, club level, and loge seating. They are planning to lower the upper deck prices, from my understanding.

They can lower the upper deck prices all they want, they still won't be filled on a regular basis.

Because??
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: SUGARTOWN on January 26, 2016, 11:18:34 am
Quote from: ricepig on January 26, 2016, 11:01:22 am
Quote from: SUGARTOWN on January 26, 2016, 10:42:58 am
Quote from: ricepig on January 25, 2016, 07:19:03 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on January 25, 2016, 06:45:32 pm
For 160 million, I figured it would be bowled in. I'm not really impressed with that design.

The lower deck will be bowled in, they never had any plans to do the top deck. There will be standing room areas(cheap) on the top. Also, the east end will have a clear glass so you can look into the stadium like you can now from the north end of Stadium Dr. I was surprised at the price tag too, I believe when they put out the Master plan for improvements in 2013 it was estimated to cost $100m. This is for suites, club level, and loge seating. They are planning to lower the upper deck prices, from my understanding.

They can lower the upper deck prices all they want, they still won't be filled on a regular basis.

Because??

They never have been, people don't want to sit in the corners of the upper deck unless it's Bama or maybe LSU. The tickets being $10 cheaper or whatever isn't going to fix that.

I'm all for cheaper tickets but I think it will have little effect on butts in the seats.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on January 26, 2016, 11:47:28 am
Quote from: SUGARTOWN on January 26, 2016, 11:18:34 am
Quote from: ricepig on January 26, 2016, 11:01:22 am
Quote from: SUGARTOWN on January 26, 2016, 10:42:58 am
Quote from: ricepig on January 25, 2016, 07:19:03 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on January 25, 2016, 06:45:32 pm
For 160 million, I figured it would be bowled in. I'm not really impressed with that design.

The lower deck will be bowled in, they never had any plans to do the top deck. There will be standing room areas(cheap) on the top. Also, the east end will have a clear glass so you can look into the stadium like you can now from the north end of Stadium Dr. I was surprised at the price tag too, I believe when they put out the Master plan for improvements in 2013 it was estimated to cost $100m. This is for suites, club level, and loge seating. They are planning to lower the upper deck prices, from my understanding.

They can lower the upper deck prices all they want, they still won't be filled on a regular basis.

Because??

They never have been, people don't want to sit in the corners of the upper deck unless it's Bama or maybe LSU. The tickets being $10 cheaper or whatever isn't going to fix that.

I'm all for cheaper tickets but I think it will have little effect on butts in the seats.

Were you at the Texas Tech game this year, completely full. There's been lots of games completely full, so I don't agree with you. Now, you do know the NE corner is for the visiting team, they turn back these tickets 10 days from kickoff. Sometimes they sell, sometimes they don't. The SE upper deck corner is now student overflow seats, no doubt it needs to be full. They sell 9800 student access passes, about 8000 can sit in the lower area, leaving 1800 for the three sections they have in the SE corner. The west side is almost always full, maybe 600-900 short.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: SUGARTOWN on January 26, 2016, 12:10:10 pm
No I wasn't at the Texas Tech game, I was however at the Miss St. game and the corners weren't filled then. And now we're adding 8000 seats? No doubt it will look great, but I just hate seeing sections mostly empty on TV.

Maybe we can get 10k more fans for every game, but I doubt it.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on January 26, 2016, 12:17:32 pm
I honestly don't think it will either. 10$ cheaper isn't going to fill the seats.

I think it's great for the university, but I don't think what they are planning is really great.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on January 26, 2016, 12:21:30 pm
Quote from: SUGARTOWN on January 26, 2016, 12:10:10 pm
No I wasn't at the Texas Tech game, I was however at the Miss St. game and the corners weren't filled then. And now we're adding 8000 seats? No doubt it will look great, but I just hate seeing sections mostly empty on TV.

Maybe we can get 10k more fans for every game, but I doubt it.

We are adding 3049 seats as it is drawn up today. 2297 Club seats, 32 suites(384 seats) and 92 4 seat Loge boxes. There is demand for everyone of these seats. They will pre-sell all of these, I'm betting. If you don't like the way it looks on TV, get your butt in one of those empties.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on January 26, 2016, 12:23:04 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on January 26, 2016, 12:17:32 pm
I honestly don't think it will either. 10$ cheaper isn't going to fill the seats.

I think it's great for the university, but I don't think what they are planning is really great.

They weren't counting on your approval, lol. Everyone knows winning helps, so, hopefully we keep improving.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on January 26, 2016, 12:29:59 pm
Hey, I'm not one of those "well I'm a season ticket holder/alumni so I have a right to acknowledge, praise, or B****" guys. I agree with that.

I'm concerned about winning. Not what the stadium looks like. You can spray perfume on a pile of dung but guess what, it's still dung.


:D
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on January 26, 2016, 12:39:40 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on January 26, 2016, 12:29:59 pm
Hey, I'm not one of those "well I'm a season ticket holder/alumni so I have a right to acknowledge, praise, or B****" guys. I agree with that.

I'm concerned about winning. Not what the stadium looks like. You can spray perfume on a pile of dung but guess what, it's still dung.


:D

Yeah, but it smells better! I'm sure you're reminded of that often, you know, courtesy flush!!!
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: SUGARTOWN on January 26, 2016, 12:48:16 pm
Quote from: ricepig on January 26, 2016, 12:21:30 pm
Quote from: SUGARTOWN on January 26, 2016, 12:10:10 pm
No I wasn't at the Texas Tech game, I was however at the Miss St. game and the corners weren't filled then. And now we're adding 8000 seats? No doubt it will look great, but I just hate seeing sections mostly empty on TV.

Maybe we can get 10k more fans for every game, but I doubt it.

We are adding 3049 seats as it is drawn up today. 2297 Club seats, 32 suites(384 seats) and 92 4 seat Loge boxes. There is demand for everyone of these seats. They will pre-sell all of these, I'm betting. If you don't like the way it looks on TV, get your butt in one of those empties.

I went to EVERY home game for 20 years, now I can only make it to the LR game and a couple games a year in Fayetteville. There are over 500K in NWA, if they can't fill a 72,000 stadium on a regular basis I just can't see how adding seats will help.

I guess maybe the added revenue from the club seats will be worth it in the long run (minus the $160 mil building cost).
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on January 26, 2016, 12:50:24 pm
Quote from: ricepig on January 26, 2016, 12:39:40 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on January 26, 2016, 12:29:59 pm
Hey, I'm not one of those "well I'm a season ticket holder/alumni so I have a right to acknowledge, praise, or B****" guys. I agree with that.

I'm concerned about winning. Not what the stadium looks like. You can spray perfume on a pile of dung but guess what, it's still dung.


:D

Yeah, but it smells better! I'm sure you're reminded of that often, you know, courtesy flush!!!

I suppose. Ha.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on January 26, 2016, 01:27:47 pm
Quote from: SUGARTOWN on January 26, 2016, 12:48:16 pm
Quote from: ricepig on January 26, 2016, 12:21:30 pm
Quote from: SUGARTOWN on January 26, 2016, 12:10:10 pm
No I wasn't at the Texas Tech game, I was however at the Miss St. game and the corners weren't filled then. And now we're adding 8000 seats? No doubt it will look great, but I just hate seeing sections mostly empty on TV.

Maybe we can get 10k more fans for every game, but I doubt it.

We are adding 3049 seats as it is drawn up today. 2297 Club seats, 32 suites(384 seats) and 92 4 seat Loge boxes. There is demand for everyone of these seats. They will pre-sell all of these, I'm betting. If you don't like the way it looks on TV, get your butt in one of those empties.

I went to EVERY home game for 20 years, now I can only make it to the LR game and a couple games a year in Fayetteville. There are over 500K in NWA, if they can't fill a 72,000 stadium on a regular basis I just can't see how adding seats will help.

I guess maybe the added revenue from the club seats will be worth it in the long run (minus the $160 mil building cost).

The added seats will be revenue producers, after they pay off the bond. They are adding seats that there is a waiting list for, so it should work. They didn't sell out the 51,000 seat stadium before they increased it to 72,000, but look at it now. We averaged 70,281 last season, it will be better this year with the schedule.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Jacketman65 on January 26, 2016, 01:40:57 pm
Maybe the cheaper seats are for the central Ar. folks that won't fill War Memorial!  Heard that they are going to have standing room only areas as well!  More empty space.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on January 26, 2016, 01:44:42 pm
Quote from: Jacketman65 on January 26, 2016, 01:40:57 pm
Maybe the cheaper seats are for the central Ar. folks that won't fill War Memorial!  Heard that they are going to have standing room only areas as well!  More empty space.

Yeah, I didn't realize all those cars I pass on the drive up to games were actually NWA residents who had been to LR and NEA......
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: SUGARTOWN on January 26, 2016, 02:09:59 pm
Quote from: ricepig on January 26, 2016, 01:27:47 pm
Quote from: SUGARTOWN on January 26, 2016, 12:48:16 pm
Quote from: ricepig on January 26, 2016, 12:21:30 pm
Quote from: SUGARTOWN on January 26, 2016, 12:10:10 pm
No I wasn't at the Texas Tech game, I was however at the Miss St. game and the corners weren't filled then. And now we're adding 8000 seats? No doubt it will look great, but I just hate seeing sections mostly empty on TV.

Maybe we can get 10k more fans for every game, but I doubt it.

We are adding 3049 seats as it is drawn up today. 2297 Club seats, 32 suites(384 seats) and 92 4 seat Loge boxes. There is demand for everyone of these seats. They will pre-sell all of these, I'm betting. If you don't like the way it looks on TV, get your butt in one of those empties.

I went to EVERY home game for 20 years, now I can only make it to the LR game and a couple games a year in Fayetteville. There are over 500K in NWA, if they can't fill a 72,000 stadium on a regular basis I just can't see how adding seats will help.

I guess maybe the added revenue from the club seats will be worth it in the long run (minus the $160 mil building cost).

The added seats will be revenue producers, after they pay off the bond. They are adding seats that there is a waiting list for, so it should work. They didn't sell out the 51,000 seat stadium before they increased it to 72,000, but look at it now. We averaged 70,281 last season, it will be better this year with the schedule.

We actually averaged 67,236, but yes the SEC home schedule is better next year.

I still think we should get out of the A&M contract with JerryWorld and play home and home. We're giving up an extra home game every other year and are consistently outnumbered in Dallas by Aggie fans. There's not much to gain by playing them there IMO.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: WPWells on January 26, 2016, 02:30:23 pm
The last couple years I've gone to Dallas and it's looked even to me
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on January 26, 2016, 02:29:35 pm
Quote from: SUGARTOWN on January 26, 2016, 02:09:59 pm
Quote from: ricepig on January 26, 2016, 01:27:47 pm
Quote from: SUGARTOWN on January 26, 2016, 12:48:16 pm
Quote from: ricepig on January 26, 2016, 12:21:30 pm
Quote from: SUGARTOWN on January 26, 2016, 12:10:10 pm
No I wasn't at the Texas Tech game, I was however at the Miss St. game and the corners weren't filled then. And now we're adding 8000 seats? No doubt it will look great, but I just hate seeing sections mostly empty on TV.

Maybe we can get 10k more fans for every game, but I doubt it.

We are adding 3049 seats as it is drawn up today. 2297 Club seats, 32 suites(384 seats) and 92 4 seat Loge boxes. There is demand for everyone of these seats. They will pre-sell all of these, I'm betting. If you don't like the way it looks on TV, get your butt in one of those empties.

I went to EVERY home game for 20 years, now I can only make it to the LR game and a couple games a year in Fayetteville. There are over 500K in NWA, if they can't fill a 72,000 stadium on a regular basis I just can't see how adding seats will help.

I guess maybe the added revenue from the club seats will be worth it in the long run (minus the $160 mil building cost).

The added seats will be revenue producers, after they pay off the bond. They are adding seats that there is a waiting list for, so it should work. They didn't sell out the 51,000 seat stadium before they increased it to 72,000, but look at it now. We averaged 70,281 last season, it will be better this year with the schedule.

We actually averaged 67,236, but yes the SEC home schedule is better next year.

I still think we should get out of the A&M contract with JerryWorld and play home and home. We're giving up an extra home game every other year and are consistently outnumbered in Dallas by Aggie fans. There's not much to gain by playing them there IMO.

I was talking about RRS attendance.

67708-UTEP
73334-Tech
72008-Auburn
64206-UTM
71936-MSU
72496-Mizzou
_____________
421,688/6=70281

In Dallas we've had as many, and had more the first few years of it. Have you been?
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bdubyab60 on January 26, 2016, 02:40:59 pm
If you build it they will come, supposedly lol. A decent looking recruiting class and considering that other schools are 80000 plus at least, we need to try and compete with them. Agree the 160mil price tag looks a little high for what's  being done though. Maybe get another quote on it lol
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: SUGARTOWN on January 26, 2016, 02:47:50 pm
Quote from: ricepig on January 26, 2016, 02:29:35 pm
Quote from: SUGARTOWN on January 26, 2016, 02:09:59 pm
Quote from: ricepig on January 26, 2016, 01:27:47 pm
Quote from: SUGARTOWN on January 26, 2016, 12:48:16 pm
Quote from: ricepig on January 26, 2016, 12:21:30 pm
Quote from: SUGARTOWN on January 26, 2016, 12:10:10 pm
No I wasn't at the Texas Tech game, I was however at the Miss St. game and the corners weren't filled then. And now we're adding 8000 seats? No doubt it will look great, but I just hate seeing sections mostly empty on TV.

Maybe we can get 10k more fans for every game, but I doubt it.

We are adding 3049 seats as it is drawn up today. 2297 Club seats, 32 suites(384 seats) and 92 4 seat Loge boxes. There is demand for everyone of these seats. They will pre-sell all of these, I'm betting. If you don't like the way it looks on TV, get your butt in one of those empties.

I went to EVERY home game for 20 years, now I can only make it to the LR game and a couple games a year in Fayetteville. There are over 500K in NWA, if they can't fill a 72,000 stadium on a regular basis I just can't see how adding seats will help.

I guess maybe the added revenue from the club seats will be worth it in the long run (minus the $160 mil building cost).

The added seats will be revenue producers, after they pay off the bond. They are adding seats that there is a waiting list for, so it should work. They didn't sell out the 51,000 seat stadium before they increased it to 72,000, but look at it now. We averaged 70,281 last season, it will be better this year with the schedule.

We actually averaged 67,236, but yes the SEC home schedule is better next year.

I still think we should get out of the A&M contract with JerryWorld and play home and home. We're giving up an extra home game every other year and are consistently outnumbered in Dallas by Aggie fans. There's not much to gain by playing them there IMO.

I was talking about RRS attendance.

67708-UTEP
73334-Tech
72008-Auburn
64206-UTM
71936-MSU
72496-Mizzou
_____________
421,688/6=70281

In Dallas we've had as many, and had more the first few years of it. Have you been?

Since we've went back there the last 2 years they've had a few more. I was there 2 years ago.

One of the big "complaints" about the LR games is how we lose out on a recruiting weekend. Which really isn't that big of a deal since not too many recruits are taking visits for a crappy non-conference game in September. However, an SEC game against A&M WOULD be a good recruiting weekend. And we're giving it up to play in Dallas...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on January 26, 2016, 02:46:20 pm
Quote from: bdubyab60 on January 26, 2016, 02:40:59 pm
If you build it they will come, supposedly lol. A decent looking recruiting class and considering that other schools are 80000 plus at least, we need to try and compete with them. Agree the 160mil price tag looks a little high for what's  being done though. Maybe get another quote on it lol

In the proposal that is going before the trustees tomorrow, that $160m has a fudge factor of $19m built in for "whoops".
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on January 26, 2016, 02:52:05 pm
Quote from: SUGARTOWN on January 26, 2016, 02:47:50 pm
Quote from: ricepig on January 26, 2016, 02:29:35 pm
Quote from: SUGARTOWN on January 26, 2016, 02:09:59 pm
Quote from: ricepig on January 26, 2016, 01:27:47 pm
Quote from: SUGARTOWN on January 26, 2016, 12:48:16 pm
Quote from: ricepig on January 26, 2016, 12:21:30 pm
Quote from: SUGARTOWN on January 26, 2016, 12:10:10 pm
No I wasn't at the Texas Tech game, I was however at the Miss St. game and the corners weren't filled then. And now we're adding 8000 seats? No doubt it will look great, but I just hate seeing sections mostly empty on TV.

Maybe we can get 10k more fans for every game, but I doubt it.

We are adding 3049 seats as it is drawn up today. 2297 Club seats, 32 suites(384 seats) and 92 4 seat Loge boxes. There is demand for everyone of these seats. They will pre-sell all of these, I'm betting. If you don't like the way it looks on TV, get your butt in one of those empties.

I went to EVERY home game for 20 years, now I can only make it to the LR game and a couple games a year in Fayetteville. There are over 500K in NWA, if they can't fill a 72,000 stadium on a regular basis I just can't see how adding seats will help.

I guess maybe the added revenue from the club seats will be worth it in the long run (minus the $160 mil building cost).

The added seats will be revenue producers, after they pay off the bond. They are adding seats that there is a waiting list for, so it should work. They didn't sell out the 51,000 seat stadium before they increased it to 72,000, but look at it now. We averaged 70,281 last season, it will be better this year with the schedule.

We actually averaged 67,236, but yes the SEC home schedule is better next year.

I still think we should get out of the A&M contract with JerryWorld and play home and home. We're giving up an extra home game every other year and are consistently outnumbered in Dallas by Aggie fans. There's not much to gain by playing them there IMO.

I was talking about RRS attendance.

67708-UTEP
73334-Tech
72008-Auburn
64206-UTM
71936-MSU
72496-Mizzou
_____________
421,688/6=70281

In Dallas we've had as many, and had more the first few years of it. Have you been?

Since we've went back there the last 2 years they've had a few more. I was there 2 years ago.

One of the big "complaints" about the LR games is how we lose out on a recruiting weekend. Which really isn't that big of a deal since not too many recruits are taking visits for a crappy non-conference game in September. However, an SEC game against A&M WOULD be a good recruiting weekend. And we're giving it up to play in Dallas...

Truthfully, we don't want 8 home games in Fayetteville. We use the Dallas game as both an athletic and academic recruiting stage, plus Jerry pays us 3 times what we make in LR. We can get the Texas kids tickets to the game, and it's easier for them to see us there, than in Fayetteville. We don't host too many official visits in Sept, so we aren't losing much in recruiting by playing there. In the future, look for us to play in games in Houston, Jacksonville, Atlanta, or some other pro stadium for a kickoff game.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: SUGARTOWN on January 26, 2016, 03:16:23 pm
For a "kickoff" game that's fine, not a conference game though. Sure, you can give the Texas kids tickets but it's always better for them to see the campus and facilities. Plus we're playing in Fort Worth this year anyway and could be playing in College Station every other year. That's more than enough exposure in Texas.

And I'm not comparing it to a LR game, those games are gone in a couple years, I'm comparing it to a home game in Fayetteville. A game on campus at DWRRS in a better showcase to recruits than a game at Dallas.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on January 26, 2016, 03:19:33 pm
Personally who cares about playing in a nice facility during the season. A nice facility like Jerry's world. We should be aiming to play in those kinds of places during the bowl season. That's the problem I have with the TAMU series.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on January 26, 2016, 04:04:47 pm
Quote from: SUGARTOWN on January 26, 2016, 03:16:23 pm
For a "kickoff" game that's fine, not a conference game though. Sure, you can give the Texas kids tickets but it's always better for them to see the campus and facilities. Plus we're playing in Fort Worth this year anyway and could be playing in College Station every other year. That's more than enough exposure in Texas.

And I'm not comparing it to a LR game, those games are gone in a couple years, I'm comparing it to a home game in Fayetteville. A game on campus at DWRRS in a better showcase to recruits than a game at Dallas.

They can do both, see us in Dallas, and come up to a later game, then take their official visit in January. It's pretty hard for a Katy or Beaumont kid to play Friday night and make it to Fayetteville for a 3:00 kickoff. It's a whole lot easier to make it to Dallas. Playing in AT+T Stadium is part of our recruiting push, the coaches like to use it as a recruiting angle. Like I said, it's both for athletic and academic recruiting.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on January 26, 2016, 04:05:27 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on January 26, 2016, 03:19:33 pm
Personally who cares about playing in a nice facility during the season. A nice facility like Jerry's world. We should be aiming to play in those kinds of places during the bowl season. That's the problem I have with the TAMU series.

The players care, it's a big hit in recruiting.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on January 26, 2016, 04:12:33 pm
Quote from: ricepig on January 26, 2016, 04:05:27 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on January 26, 2016, 03:19:33 pm
Personally who cares about playing in a nice facility during the season. A nice facility like Jerry's world. We should be aiming to play in those kinds of places during the bowl season. That's the problem I have with the TAMU series.

The players care, it's a big hit in recruiting.

It apparently isn't. We lose out on a lot of recruits that "are supposed to be coming to Fayetteville" every year. If we were landing blue chips year after year from Dallas and in Texas by the butt load, I would say it helps in recruiting. But it doesn't.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on January 26, 2016, 04:18:02 pm
I see you are "shoe shining" hard on hogville, rice ha.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on January 26, 2016, 04:22:56 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on January 26, 2016, 04:12:33 pm
Quote from: ricepig on January 26, 2016, 04:05:27 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on January 26, 2016, 03:19:33 pm
Personally who cares about playing in a nice facility during the season. A nice facility like Jerry's world. We should be aiming to play in those kinds of places during the bowl season. That's the problem I have with the TAMU series.

The players care, it's a big hit in recruiting.

It apparently isn't. We lose out on a lot of recruits that "are supposed to be coming to Fayetteville" every year. If we were landing blue chips year after year from Dallas and in Texas by the butt load, I would say it helps in recruiting. But it doesn't.

#3 RB in the nation says Hi! And we aren't done, yet either. It really doesn't matter what you or I think, the coaching staff obviously thinks it's worth it.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on January 26, 2016, 04:23:46 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on January 26, 2016, 04:18:02 pm
I see you are "shoe shining" hard on hogville, rice ha.

I shine no one's shoes, lol......not even my own.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: SUGARTOWN on January 26, 2016, 05:15:30 pm
Quote from: ricepig on January 26, 2016, 04:22:56 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on January 26, 2016, 04:12:33 pm
Quote from: ricepig on January 26, 2016, 04:05:27 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on January 26, 2016, 03:19:33 pm
Personally who cares about playing in a nice facility during the season. A nice facility like Jerry's world. We should be aiming to play in those kinds of places during the bowl season. That's the problem I have with the TAMU series.

The players care, it's a big hit in recruiting.

It apparently isn't. We lose out on a lot of recruits that "are supposed to be coming to Fayetteville" every year. If we were landing blue chips year after year from Dallas and in Texas by the butt load, I would say it helps in recruiting. But it doesn't.

#3 RB in the nation says Hi! And we aren't done, yet either. It really doesn't matter what you or I think, the coaching staff obviously thinks it's worth it.

I'm thrilled we got Whaley, but he was going to UGA until Richt got fired. Maybe we can get Kyle Poter too...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Lionheart88 on January 26, 2016, 06:23:06 pm
Quote from: ricepig on January 26, 2016, 11:01:22 am
Quote from: SUGARTOWN on January 26, 2016, 10:42:58 am
Quote from: ricepig on January 25, 2016, 07:19:03 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on January 25, 2016, 06:45:32 pm
For 160 million, I figured it would be bowled in. I'm not really impressed with that design.

The lower deck will be bowled in, they never had any plans to do the top deck. There will be standing room areas(cheap) on the top. Also, the east end will have a clear glass so you can look into the stadium like you can now from the north end of Stadium Dr. I was surprised at the price tag too, I believe when they put out the Master plan for improvements in 2013 it was estimated to cost $100m. This is for suites, club level, and loge seating. They are planning to lower the upper deck prices, from my understanding.

They can lower the upper deck prices all they want, they still won't be filled on a regular basis.

Because??
Because if you aren't coming from NWA, the ticket price is only a minor part of the cost to attend a game.  There's also parking, gas, possibly a hotel for at least one, often two nights, eating out multiple meals for the family, etc.  $10/ticket won't change many people's ability to get up to a game.  Heck, falling gas prices probably save a lot of people more than that.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on January 26, 2016, 06:49:35 pm
Quote from: Lionheart88 on January 26, 2016, 06:23:06 pm
Quote from: ricepig on January 26, 2016, 11:01:22 am
Quote from: SUGARTOWN on January 26, 2016, 10:42:58 am
Quote from: ricepig on January 25, 2016, 07:19:03 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on January 25, 2016, 06:45:32 pm
For 160 million, I figured it would be bowled in. I'm not really impressed with that design.

The lower deck will be bowled in, they never had any plans to do the top deck. There will be standing room areas(cheap) on the top. Also, the east end will have a clear glass so you can look into the stadium like you can now from the north end of Stadium Dr. I was surprised at the price tag too, I believe when they put out the Master plan for improvements in 2013 it was estimated to cost $100m. This is for suites, club level, and loge seating. They are planning to lower the upper deck prices, from my understanding.

They can lower the upper deck prices all they want, they still won't be filled on a regular basis.

Because??
Because if you aren't coming from NWA, the ticket price is only a minor part of the cost to attend a game.  There's also parking, gas, possibly a hotel for at least one, often two nights, eating out multiple meals for the family, etc.  $10/ticket won't change many people's ability to get up to a game.  Heck, falling gas prices probably save a lot of people more than that.

I've never had to stay a two night minimum in 25 years of attending regularly. Oh, I agree, I never bought into that line of thought that ticket prices were too high. You can round trip it from LR without spending the night, it's what you WANT to do. People make excuses to do things they want to do, and the same for those they wish not to.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Lumberjackfan1978 on January 26, 2016, 08:21:39 pm
Yea but coming from Warren it's rough not staying the night
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on January 26, 2016, 08:24:56 pm
Quote from: Lumberjackfan1978 on January 26, 2016, 08:21:39 pm
Yea but coming from Warren it's rough not staying the night

I fully understand, when I drive, it's 4 1/2 hrs for me. It's just a choice people make, some prefer hunting and spending a small fortune doing that, but never think twice about it. It's all about one's priorities.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Lions84 on January 27, 2016, 11:10:19 am
8-4 + depends on how good the O line is early and how well our new QB plays.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on January 28, 2016, 04:11:06 pm
It looks like Chris Daniels is a TAMU lock. Guess the big stadium renovation plans didn't have that excitement factor to land recruits that we thought.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on January 28, 2016, 04:16:57 pm
Rice. You're too easy on hogville. Like throwing dynamite in a zoo aquarium.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on January 28, 2016, 04:59:14 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on January 28, 2016, 04:16:57 pm
Rice. You're too easy on hogville. Like throwing dynamite in a zoo aquarium.

Nah, you're too predictable, always trolling. As in the above post, also,to be fair, Daniels is going to Texas.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: SUGARTOWN on February 02, 2016, 04:11:46 pm
http://www.arkansasrazorbacks.com/an-open-letter-from-jeff-long/


Ouch. Ante up customers, that NEZ needs to be paid for...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on February 02, 2016, 04:45:51 pm
The shoe shiners can pay for it.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: SUGARTOWN on February 02, 2016, 05:11:08 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on February 02, 2016, 04:45:51 pm
The shoe shiners can pay for it.

It won't effect me at all. My WMS tickets will be cheaper for the next couple of years and I'll still just pay face value for whatever Fayetteville games I want to go too (one or two a year).
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on February 02, 2016, 06:09:44 pm
It won't me either. Going to Fayetteville for a football game on a Saturday isn't on my to do list. I'll probably go to WMS until it stops though.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on February 02, 2016, 08:06:05 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on February 02, 2016, 04:45:51 pm
The shoe shiners can pay for it.

You wish you had a pair, lol.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on February 02, 2016, 08:29:18 pm
Pair of what?? Haha
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on February 03, 2016, 01:43:39 pm
Another recruiting season filled with hopes and dreams. Only to be washed away by the big boys of the SEC. And Texas.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on February 03, 2016, 01:50:00 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on February 03, 2016, 01:43:39 pm
Another recruiting season filled with hopes and dreams. Only to be washed away by the big boys of the SEC. And Texas.

You let your hopes and dreams ride on 18yr olds, speaks well of you, lol.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: OB11 on February 03, 2016, 01:58:03 pm
Quote from: ricepig on February 03, 2016, 01:50:00 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on February 03, 2016, 01:43:39 pm
Another recruiting season filled with hopes and dreams. Only to be washed away by the big boys of the SEC. And Texas.

You let your hopes and dreams ride on 18yr olds, speaks well of you, lol.

Every college coaches hopes and dreams rely on 18yr olds every year...lol
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Romeo on February 03, 2016, 02:16:37 pm
Bret Bielema called out Ole Miss and Florida on national TV to what is perceived to be anger over recruiting tactics. It is what it is. Recruiting is a dirty business and Arkansas is just not an easy place to recruit. 
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on February 03, 2016, 02:47:12 pm
Quote from: ricepig on February 03, 2016, 01:50:00 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on February 03, 2016, 01:43:39 pm
Another recruiting season filled with hopes and dreams. Only to be washed away by the big boys of the SEC. And Texas.

You let your hopes and dreams ride on 18yr olds, speaks well of you, lol.

No no. Not MY hopes and dreams. My life has more going for it than some of those clowns on hogville that get down and out over Razorback football!
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on February 03, 2016, 02:48:42 pm
Quote from: Romeo on February 03, 2016, 02:16:37 pm
Bret Bielema called out Ole Miss and Florida on national TV to what is perceived to be anger over recruiting tactics. It is what it is. Recruiting is a dirty business and Arkansas is just not an easy place to recruit. 

He has since said that what he said was mistaken and he has personally called both coaches to apologize for anything that may have come off as negative.

Whether he meant it or not. Fayetteville will always rank as one of the toughest place to recruit top notch talent to in the sec. Location. Location. Location.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: WPWells on February 03, 2016, 03:02:17 pm
They took his quote entirely out of context to create a media firestorm
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on February 03, 2016, 03:21:09 pm
Top 25 class. I'm ok with that.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on February 03, 2016, 04:07:23 pm
Quote from: Romeo on February 03, 2016, 02:16:37 pm
Bret Bielema called out Ole Miss and Florida on national TV to what is perceived to be anger over recruiting tactics. It is what it is. Recruiting is a dirty business and Arkansas is just not an easy place to recruit.

No he didn't, I guess you just run with Twitter tells you??

https://twitter.com/SportsTalkwBo/status/694997127609524225
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on February 03, 2016, 04:11:00 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on February 03, 2016, 03:21:09 pm
Top 25 class. I'm ok with that.

Yeah, I never believe they are part of the team until the LOI comes in, and that was proven again today. Florida gives a kid a conditional offer on Sunday, loses a 4* commit today, and now they offer isn't conditional. It's recruiting, lol.

Top 25 classes, and some Top 25 finishes on the field will increase both, hopefully sooner, than later.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on February 03, 2016, 04:11:28 pm
It is what it is. We will never be a top 10 recruiting school year in and year out. I'm 30 and I've never seen one to my knowledge.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bdubyab60 on February 03, 2016, 06:05:48 pm
As long as it translates to wins and we can get some of the lower rated kids to shine bigger than their star rating we should be fine. Agree it sucks missing on every big name we were going after today but you have to go after those kinds of players. I like that this staff is trying to do it.

But if you reverse lets say all these big time recruits eliminated us early. Then today Whaley, Agim and a couple of others committed and signed today it would have felt a little different at least. Had basically the entire class sealed up before signing day.

Its kind of like shooting an 8 point with a muzzleloader and you look up and theres a 14 pointer there but you only had the one shot.

Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on February 03, 2016, 07:46:30 pm
Quote from: ricepig on February 03, 2016, 04:07:23 pm
Quote from: Romeo on February 03, 2016, 02:16:37 pm
Bret Bielema called out Ole Miss and Florida on national TV to what is perceived to be anger over recruiting tactics. It is what it is. Recruiting is a dirty business and Arkansas is just not an easy place to recruit.

No he didn't, I guess you just run with Twitter tells you??

https://twitter.com/SportsTalkwBo/status/694997127609524225
CBB may not have meant it that way, but all the comments he makes it puts him in a bad situation. Like I have said before, good coach but doesn't know when to shut up...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on February 03, 2016, 07:59:33 pm
Quote from: Coach Venny Slocombe on February 03, 2016, 07:46:30 pm
Quote from: ricepig on February 03, 2016, 04:07:23 pm
Quote from: Romeo on February 03, 2016, 02:16:37 pm
Bret Bielema called out Ole Miss and Florida on national TV to what is perceived to be anger over recruiting tactics. It is what it is. Recruiting is a dirty business and Arkansas is just not an easy place to recruit.

No he didn't, I guess you just run with Twitter tells you??

https://twitter.com/SportsTalkwBo/status/694997127609524225
CBB may not have meant it that way, but all the comments he makes it puts him in a bad situation. Like I have said before, good coach but doesn't know when to shut up...

I doubt he feels he's in a bad situation, I figure that's what matters to him.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Lumberjackfan1978 on February 03, 2016, 08:52:49 pm
Quote from: SUGARTOWN on January 26, 2016, 12:48:16 pm
Quote from: ricepig on January 26, 2016, 12:21:30 pm
Quote from: SUGARTOWN on January 26, 2016, 12:10:10 pm
No I wasn't at the Texas Tech game, I was however at the Miss St. game and the corners weren't filled then. And now we're adding 8000 seats? No doubt it will look great, but I just hate seeing sections mostly empty on TV.

Maybe we can get 10k more fans for every game, but I doubt it.

We are adding 3049 seats as it is drawn up today. 2297 Club seats, 32 suites(384 seats) and 92 4 seat Loge boxes. There is demand for everyone of these seats. They will pre-sell all of these, I'm betting. If you don't like the way it looks on TV, get your butt in one of those empties.

I went to EVERY home game for 20 years, now I can only make it to the LR game and a couple games a year in Fayetteville. There are over 500K in NWA, if they can't fill a 72,000 stadium on a regular basis I just can't see how adding seats will help.

I guess maybe the added revenue from the club seats will be worth it in the long run (minus the $160 mil building cost).
yea maybe
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on February 04, 2016, 01:48:47 am
Quote from: ricepig on February 03, 2016, 07:59:33 pm
Quote from: Coach Venny Slocombe on February 03, 2016, 07:46:30 pm
Quote from: ricepig on February 03, 2016, 04:07:23 pm
Quote from: Romeo on February 03, 2016, 02:16:37 pm
Bret Bielema called out Ole Miss and Florida on national TV to what is perceived to be anger over recruiting tactics. It is what it is. Recruiting is a dirty business and Arkansas is just not an easy place to recruit.

No he didn't, I guess you just run with Twitter tells you??

https://twitter.com/SportsTalkwBo/status/694997127609524225
CBB may not have meant it that way, but all the comments he makes it puts him in a bad situation. Like I have said before, good coach but doesn't know when to shut up...

I doubt he feels he's in a bad situation, I figure that's what matters to him.
Maybe that's why he can't keep his mouth shut...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on February 05, 2016, 02:33:57 pm
Well, looks like Singleton is gone after one year.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on February 05, 2016, 04:54:24 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on February 05, 2016, 02:33:57 pm
Well, looks like Singleton is gone after one year.

Yep, hopefully we get a recruiter in that position. Second year in a row that our RB coach didn't land a recruit. And before any says it, Whaley was a Jennings recruit.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Romeo on February 12, 2016, 02:40:16 pm
New running backs coach: http://www.kuathletics.com/coaches.aspx?rc=990&path=football
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on February 12, 2016, 03:42:12 pm
Hmm.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: SUGARTOWN on February 24, 2016, 11:14:04 am
Home run hire.  :)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cb_WbTYUEAALfx6.jpg:large)
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on February 24, 2016, 11:37:50 am
That's a solid hire. I would suspect we get a good 1-2 years out of him here at Arkansas.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: SUGARTOWN on February 24, 2016, 11:58:25 am
Quote from: AirWarren on February 24, 2016, 11:37:50 am
That's a solid hire. I would suspect we get a good 1-2 years out of him here at Arkansas.

Maybe more. He could be promoted to DC if Smith leaves anytime soon.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on February 24, 2016, 12:37:50 pm
I'm sure Bret has that in the back of his mind as well when he decided to hire him. Some may not think it, but Bret is smart and smooth. Covers his tracks well. I like that.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on April 13, 2016, 09:17:36 pm
Kody Walker breaks his foot Tuesday.


The curse continues.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on April 20, 2016, 06:39:53 pm
I see aubbie thinks they have the next best sec Qb. Some juco athlete.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Longfellow on April 20, 2016, 06:56:24 pm
If you're talking about John Franklin III, they just might have it. Read an article about him on Bleacher Report and watched some film of him, and I think he could be a top notch SEC QB
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on April 20, 2016, 07:18:02 pm
Yeah. They said that last year about what's his name. Turned out to be a flop. I'll have to see it to believe it.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: beach bum on April 23, 2016, 07:21:14 pm
Did anyone actually attend the Red and White game? I heard the weather was just perfect in Fayetteville for the scrimmage... So I figure there was a good turn out!
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: WPWells on April 23, 2016, 09:19:40 pm
Quote from: beach bum on April 23, 2016, 07:21:14 pm
Did anyone actually attend the Red and White game? I heard the weather was just perfect in Fayetteville for the scrimmage... So I figure there was a good turn out!

I went for a half!
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Lions84 on May 10, 2016, 10:56:08 am
After Spring Ball I sticking with 8-4 to 10-2 spread this year any worse and I will be shocked.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: LRRandy on June 21, 2016, 06:42:21 pm
6-6
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: WPWells on June 21, 2016, 06:58:00 pm
Quote from: LRRandy on June 21, 2016, 06:42:21 pm
6-6

Can't tell if you're trolling or just dumb
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on June 21, 2016, 07:07:21 pm
Quote from: Fred Bird on June 21, 2016, 06:58:00 pm
Can't tell if you're trolling or just dumb

tOSU troll, but who knows?
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: LRRandy on June 21, 2016, 08:02:51 pm
Quote from: Fred Bird on June 21, 2016, 06:58:00 pm
Can't tell if you're trolling or just dumb
lost a lot. Only proven thing on offense is the wide receiver corp ( one of the best in sec). Can the qb get time to get them the ball? If he does have time can he be accurate? How durable will running back by committee be?

Arkansas has finished strong two seasons in a row. If Bert doesn't stub his toe on Toledo ( snicker, holy Toledo) and TTechh, it is quite possibly the 10 win watershed year razorback faithful has waited on. That was done however with a lot of experienced players.

So I got 6-6. Could go higher if the question marks are answered in a positive way.
Or lower if LB void isn't fixed and the back of the defense doesn't quit serving Cajin toast ( burnt) to the opponents.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: LRRandy on June 21, 2016, 08:04:02 pm
Quote from: ricepig on June 21, 2016, 07:07:21 pm
tOSU troll, but who knows?
hey!!  I resemble that remark.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on June 22, 2016, 07:03:59 am
Quote from: LRRandy on June 21, 2016, 06:42:21 pm
6-6
+1
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Longfellow on June 22, 2016, 12:13:48 pm
6-6 actually sounds reasonable to me. All depends on that QB/RB situation. Allen and Devwah Whaley have to produce at a high level
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: LRRandy on June 22, 2016, 01:29:59 pm
Quote from: Longfellow on June 22, 2016, 12:13:48 pm
6-6 actually sounds reasonable to me. All depends on that QB/RB situation. Allen and Devwah Whaley have to produce at a high level
careful now. You'll get called dumb by a blind homer.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: HorseFeathers on June 22, 2016, 02:36:44 pm
Quote from: LRRandy on June 22, 2016, 01:29:59 pm
careful now. You'll get called dumb by a blind homer.

Longfellow is a Louisville fan
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: LRRandy on June 22, 2016, 05:02:44 pm
Quote from: HF on June 22, 2016, 02:36:44 pm
Longfellow is a Louisville fan
pre motorcycle wreck?
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Longfellow on June 22, 2016, 05:49:28 pm
Yep. I don't know how or why, but one day I was just a Louisville fan. It just happened. I think it was like 2007. I do cheer for Arkansas though. It gives me the ability to be more objective
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: LRRandy on June 22, 2016, 07:09:43 pm
Quote from: Longfellow on June 22, 2016, 05:49:28 pm
Yep. I don't know how or why, but one day I was just a Louisville fan. It just happened. I think it was like 2007. I do cheer for Arkansas though. It gives me the ability to be more objective
funny how that works sometimes.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Longfellow on June 22, 2016, 09:18:46 pm
Quote from: LRRandy on June 22, 2016, 07:09:43 pm
funny how that works sometimes.
I don't even think I ever watched them play that year though. I think I was watching the bowl selection special on ESPN with my grandpa and I heard them talking about Louisville and their Heisman finalist RB Michael Bush. Of course I had no idea what the Heisman trophy was then. And I used to cheer for other teams when I was a kid just to mess with my mom
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: LRRandy on July 11, 2016, 05:07:12 pm
http://collegefootballnews.com/2016/sec-football-schedules-predictions

Pretty fair prediction. Although they have Arkansas and Auburn winning the same game.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Lionheart88 on July 11, 2016, 07:18:54 pm
Disagree with them picking us to lose to Mizzou.  To be fair, some they have us picked to win may be reaches too (TCU, perhaps).
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: LRRandy on July 11, 2016, 09:00:48 pm
Quote from: Lionheart88 on July 11, 2016, 07:18:54 pm
Disagree with them picking us to lose to Mizzou.  To be fair, some they have us picked to win may be reaches too (TCU, perhaps).
looking through the other teams predictions it looks like whoever did the predicting picked upset wins and upset losses for most teams. I can't see losing to Missouri either.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: beach bum on July 11, 2016, 09:37:09 pm
If we score 10 points against Mizzou that will get a win.... man their offense is bad.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: VHSCoach2 on July 14, 2016, 07:35:40 pm
Seems as though Rafe Peavey had back surgery this week:


http://collegefootball.ap.org/article/backup-arkansas-quarterback-rafe-peavey-injured-has-surgery
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: beach bum on July 15, 2016, 08:14:13 pm
This is how the SEC goes down this season......

1.Alabama 7-1
2.LSU 6-2
3.Arkansas 5-3
4.Auburn 5-3
5.Ole Miss 3-5
6.Mississippi State 3-5
7.Texas A&M 3-5

1.Georgia 6-2
2.Tennessee 6-2
3.Florida 4-4
4.Kentucky 3-5
5.Vanderbilt 2-6
6.South Carolina 2-6
7.Missouri 1-7

......I'd say the only surprises I put down were Georgia being a slight surprise to win the East & I have Ole Miss all the way down at 5th in West. I think with a whole new offensive line pretty much and a suspect defense they will struggle. I see the Hogs finishing 8-4 or 9-3.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: DerekOxford on July 15, 2016, 10:02:30 pm
Quote from: beach bum on July 15, 2016, 08:14:13 pm
This is how the SEC goes down this season......

1.Alabama 7-1
2.LSU 6-2
3.Arkansas 5-3
4.Auburn 5-3
5.Ole Miss 3-5
6.Mississippi State 3-5
7.Texas A&M 3-5

1.Georgia 6-2
2.Tennessee 6-2
3.Florida 4-4
4.Kentucky 3-5
5.Vanderbilt 2-6
6.South Carolina 2-6
7.Missouri 1-7

......I'd say the only surprises I put down were Georgia being a slight surprise to win the East & I have Ole Miss all the way down at 5th in West. I think with a whole new offensive line pretty much and a suspect defense they will struggle. I see the Hogs finishing 8-4 or 9-3.

What on earth makes you think Florida goes 4-4? I mean I know they have QB concerns but the East is awful.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: beach bum on July 15, 2016, 10:12:50 pm
Quote from: DerekOxford on July 15, 2016, 10:02:30 pm
What on earth makes you think Florida goes 4-4? I mean I know they have QB concerns but the East is awful.

I see them losing both games against the West..... plus 0-2 against Georgia and Tennessee. They had all the breaks go their way in close games last year. It all goes in cycles and they won't have that luck in the close games like last year.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: WPWells on July 16, 2016, 08:58:11 am
That makes sense to me...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Longfellow on July 16, 2016, 10:38:10 am
I honestly feel like South Carolina will shock somebody in the east. May be the difference in someone going to the title game
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on July 16, 2016, 10:43:31 am
I always will pull for the gators in the east. They are my second favorite SEC team.

Their position that is unproven is QB. But, with the saturation of talent in Florida, they should be fine at defense and skill position. I'm a big fan of their coach. I think he will get it done in Gainesville if the suits allow him to do it his way.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on July 16, 2016, 10:49:48 am
Now as far as the hogs. So many unknowns this year.

Our defensive line, SHOULD BE dominate this year. Quarterback is a question as is our offensive line. 11 scholarship players and limited depth. Wide receivers should bail out Allen's inexperience, Tight ends are loaded and will help in blocking packages, and our secondary and linebackers SHOULD be ok.

The thing I'm ready to see is Running backs. Devwah Whaley is supposed to be advertised as a blue chip. Running backs bite early so we will know if he is the real deal. Rawleigh, we say glimpses are greatness of him. But who I can't wait to see on the field this year, TJ Hammonds. He was fun to watch in high school and he has apparently put on some muscle and is just as quick and fast as ever. He could be the biggest suprise of this team.

I think as a fanbase, we will enjoy this Bielema led team if he can get that 3-4 headed monster running game that he was famous for at Wisconsin. Watch some of his teams on YouTube. They punished people in the run game. And he is almost there here at Arkansas.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Valleysports on July 18, 2016, 11:44:32 am
Quote from: AirWarren on July 16, 2016, 10:49:48 am

I think as a fanbase, we will enjoy this Bielema led team if he can get that 3-4 headed monster running game that he was famous for at Wisconsin. Watch some of his teams on YouTube. They punished people in the run game. And he is almost there here at Arkansas.

Wisconsin didn't play in the SEC and Arkansas, because of recruiting competition, just won't be able to go old school on SEC Power Teams year to year.  I love smash mouth, however I think "Almost There" will probably be the ceiling.  Have to have a 4 quarter dominating defense, if you're gonna run in SEC. Arkansas has picked up some good recruits lately.  Perhaps I'm underestimating Bielema or overestimating the SEC.   
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Longfellow on July 18, 2016, 12:13:41 pm
I think 'almost there' will be the team slogan. A lot to replace this year. But if Allen progresses well and Whaley is who think he is, we could surprise some people
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on July 18, 2016, 12:49:36 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on July 18, 2016, 11:44:32 am
Wisconsin didn't play in the SEC and Arkansas, because of recruiting competition, just won't be able to go old school on SEC Power Teams year to year.  I love smash mouth, however I think "Almost There" will probably be the ceiling.  Have to have a 4 quarter dominating defense, if you're gonna run in SEC. Arkansas has picked up some good recruits lately.  Perhaps I'm underestimating Bielema or overestimating the SEC.   

Nah, just overestimating the value of your opinion, lol. We need a 2014 defense with a 2015 offense, pretty simple!
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on July 18, 2016, 01:12:57 pm
Correct.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Valleysports on July 21, 2016, 11:15:35 am
Quote from: ricepig on July 18, 2016, 12:49:36 pm
We need a 2014 defense with a 2015 offense, pretty simple!

You could've just said you agree....   ::)  Never the less we'll get to see big lineman and great running backs for the near future.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on July 21, 2016, 11:29:15 am
Quote from: Valleysports on July 21, 2016, 11:15:35 am
You could've just said you agree....   ::)  Never the less we'll get to see big lineman and great running backs for the near future.

I think we'll see a little bit smaller linemen, the new OL coach likes them a tad bit smaller, from my understanding. More like 310-315 vs 340ish, I hear. I agree on the RB's, two good ones in this class and hopefully two in the next one.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on July 22, 2016, 11:27:23 am
Them hogs were throwing some weight last night. Way more weight than I'm throwing right now ha
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Valleysports on August 23, 2016, 02:16:16 pm
Listening to Bielema makes me want to become a Hog Fan.  He seem's to really like the personal (players & coaches).  Senior leadership all around.  Maybe they can get settled down before A&M this year. 
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Longfellow on August 23, 2016, 03:58:49 pm
Just read where Rafe Peavey is considering transferring
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on August 23, 2016, 04:00:19 pm
Quote from: Longfellow on August 23, 2016, 03:58:49 pm
Just read where Rafe Peavey is considering transferring

Not surprised. It's been bound to happen.

Cole Kelley is the future at quarterback. Bank on it.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: BrianfromCarlisle on August 23, 2016, 07:30:41 pm
Agree 100%.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on August 23, 2016, 07:44:59 pm
Rafe can put in another year, graduate, and then transfer, go to a FCS and be immediately eligible, or transfer and sit out with 2 to play.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: VHSCoach2 on August 23, 2016, 08:38:49 pm
Rafe is officially transferring to SMU, per Bruce Feldman on Twitter.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: mtindian42 on August 24, 2016, 02:46:07 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on August 23, 2016, 04:00:19 pm
Not surprised. It's been bound to happen.

Cole Kelley is the future at quarterback. Bank on it.
whats going on with ty storie? Is he not working out for y'all?
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: HorseFeathers on August 24, 2016, 03:16:35 pm
Quote from: mtindian42 on August 24, 2016, 02:46:07 pm
whats going on with ty storie? Is he not working out for y'all?

Ty is officially the backup now
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on August 24, 2016, 04:21:37 pm
I'm surprised by that.


Two more corners decided to transfer.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Longfellow on August 24, 2016, 04:49:35 pm
Who besides Floyd??
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on August 24, 2016, 04:51:46 pm
Quote from: Longfellow on August 24, 2016, 04:49:35 pm
Who besides Floyd??

KT marks. I assume he is a DB.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on August 24, 2016, 04:53:10 pm
Update. KT Marks is a DT.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on August 24, 2016, 06:21:11 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on August 24, 2016, 04:51:46 pm
KT marks. I assume he is a DB.
Lol, DT that has played about 4 snaps. He was a real reach our first class, but was real close to graduating this summer. I'm not sure we have a Randy Shannon Florida recruit left on the roster.......

Edit: Randy Ramsey, but he had to beg his way back on the team.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Valleysports on August 25, 2016, 06:44:46 am
Looks like scholarship opportunities have opened up..
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on August 25, 2016, 07:34:44 am
Quote from: Valleysports on August 25, 2016, 06:44:46 am
Looks like scholarship opportunities have opened up..

Yeah, I heard Bielema say yesterday that he had awarded 18 scholarships to walkons since he has been here. It's a good thing when players leave because they can't find playing time, improved roster. I think Bama has had 10 transfer since January, and LSU has had 8. When it becomes where ours are all 4* and 5* like theirs, we'll be good, haha.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: LRRandy on August 25, 2016, 07:51:00 am
Quote from: ricepig on August 25, 2016, 07:34:44 am
Yeah, I heard Bielema say yesterday that he had awarded 18 scholarships to walkons since he has been here. It's a good thing when players leave because they can't find playing time, improved roster. I think Bama has had 10 transfer since January, and LSU has had 8. When it becomes where ours are all 4* and 5* like theirs, we'll be good, haha.
kudos to CBB for giving those scholorships to walkons. My perception is that the Bama transfers are encouraged to free up space to sign new recruits and get rid of "dead weight".
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on August 25, 2016, 08:45:50 am
Quote from: ricepig on August 24, 2016, 06:21:11 pm
Lol, DT that has played about 4 snaps. He was a real reach our first class, but was real close to graduating this summer. I'm not sure we have a Randy Shannon Florida recruit left on the roster.......

Edit: Randy Ramsey, but he had to beg his way back on the team.

I know nothing of the guy. Just know he is leaving. Obviously wasn't a fit with us.

Don't bring those mangina hogville emotions over here my friend, haha
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on August 25, 2016, 10:42:21 am
Quote from: AirWarren on August 25, 2016, 08:45:50 am
I know nothing of the guy. Just know he is leaving. Obviously wasn't a fit with us.

Don't bring those mangina hogville emotions over here my friend, haha

Ok, whatever.....
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on August 25, 2016, 10:46:22 am
Quote from: LRRandy on August 25, 2016, 07:51:00 am
kudos to CBB for giving those scholorships to walkons. My perception is that the Bama transfers are encouraged to free up space to sign new recruits and get rid of "dead weight".

I'd be willing to say that 90% of transfers are due to lack of playing time. And you pretty much have to give the scholarships to walkons, who else would you give them too? He said he entered fall camp with maybe 1 to award, and now has 3 or 4 depending on if a late signee gets in by Friday.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: LRRandy on August 25, 2016, 11:53:40 am
Quote from: ricepig on August 25, 2016, 10:46:22 am
I'd be willing to say that 90% of transfers are due to lack of playing time. And you pretty much have to give the scholarships to walkons, who else would you give them too? He said he entered fall camp with maybe 1 to award, and now has 3 or 4 depending on if a late signee gets in by Friday.
teams often go through spring/summer over the scholarship limit and needing a transfer by the start of fall camp to get down to the 85 limit. Scholarships that become available due to transfer or injury can be " banked" and you can back date an early enrollee to count him in the last recruiting class so as to have an extra spot in the upcoming recruiting class. Scholarships are not always given to walk-ons. I honestly commend CBB for doing it when he doesn't have to.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on August 25, 2016, 08:13:41 pm
Quote from: LRRandy on August 25, 2016, 11:53:40 am
teams often go through spring/summer over the scholarship limit and needing a transfer by the start of fall camp to get down to the 85 limit. Scholarships that become available due to transfer or injury can be " banked" and you can back date an early enrollee to count him in the last recruiting class so as to have an extra spot in the upcoming recruiting class. Scholarships are not always given to walk-ons. I honestly commend CBB for doing it when he doesn't have to.

It makes no sense not to utilize all 85 scholarships, you have guys graduating and leaving early in Dec to make room for early enrollees.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: LRRandy on August 25, 2016, 10:15:32 pm
Quote from: ricepig on August 25, 2016, 08:13:41 pm
It makes no sense not to utilize all 85 scholarships, you have guys graduating and leaving early in Dec to make room for early enrollees.
I guess I'm not understanding what you mean. I would imagine there is not a program in the country not using all 85 scholarships.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on August 26, 2016, 06:25:55 am
Quote from: LRRandy on August 25, 2016, 10:15:32 pm
I guess I'm not understanding what you mean. I would imagine there is not a program in the country not using all 85 scholarships.

You said to bank these scholarships and not reward them to walkons, who are you going to give these to after fall camp has started? You've already got your LOI players in and on scholarship.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: LRRandy on August 26, 2016, 08:08:22 am
Quote from: ricepig on August 26, 2016, 06:25:55 am
You said to bank these scholarships and not reward them to walkons, who are you going to give these to after fall camp has started? You've already got your LOI players in and on scholarship.
ok, I follow you. Yes, those scholarships can be given to walkons. That's why I commended CBB for doing so. Banking a scholarship and giving it to a player that enrolled in January and counting it in the previous class theoretically allows you the room to sign more highly rated recruits and stay under the scholarship limit. Giving the scholarship to a player that wasn't recruited because he wasn't rated as high ( a walkon) instead of using it to land a player with a high star rating could be seen as not trying to bring in the best players. That's not a shot at coaches that do it, it is just the reality of the perception.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on August 26, 2016, 10:13:38 am
Quote from: LRRandy on August 26, 2016, 08:08:22 am
ok, I follow you. Yes, those scholarships can be given to walkons. That's why I commended CBB for doing so. Banking a scholarship and giving it to a player that enrolled in January and counting it in the previous class theoretically allows you the room to sign more highly rated recruits and stay under the scholarship limit. Giving the scholarship to a player that wasn't recruited because he wasn't rated as high ( a walkon) instead of using it to land a player with a high star rating could be seen as not trying to bring in the best players. That's not a shot at coaches that do it, it is just the reality of the perception.

You are still missing the point, awarding these scholarships to walkons doesn't effect your 85 number for the next season. You can still bring in guys at mid-term if you have room from your previous recruiting classes. You'll notice that the vast majority of players, at Arkansas and elsewhere, are Jr's and Sr's that receive walkon scholarships. These awarded scholarships on effect the 85 number, you can still sign however many you have available, be it 25 to 30. You can only bring in a set amount of early enrollees now, with your graduating Sr's and early NFL guys, you should have room in the 85. Now, when all the recruits(LOI) guys show up in summer, you generally have to have had some roster attrition by then.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: beach bum on August 28, 2016, 09:47:00 pm
Boy oh boy is it getting close to kickoff against La Tech. I will go 45-17 Hogs on Saturday.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Proud Buckaroo on August 29, 2016, 09:19:03 pm
depth chart for the LA tech has been released. Boy, I sure am happy to Former Buckaroo Jordan jones on there!!
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: HorseFeathers on August 31, 2016, 06:58:30 pm
Quote from: Proud Buckaroo on August 29, 2016, 09:19:03 pm
depth chart for the LA tech has been released. Boy, I sure am happy to Former Buckaroo Jordan jones on there!!

Odd that he would be on the La Tech depth chart isn't it?
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: BrianfromCarlisle on August 31, 2016, 07:42:45 pm
He's really really REALLY good. Lol.

2 teams...same game

Biggest question?   Can he successfully shut his self down if he plays corner for one squad?
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on August 31, 2016, 07:45:20 pm
Quote from: Proud Buckaroo on August 29, 2016, 09:19:03 pm
depth chart for the LA tech has been released. Boy, I sure am happy to Former Buckaroo Jordan jones on there!!

Sounds like Smith would like to redshirt him, we'll see.



https://twitter.com/wholehogsports/status/771137820731641856
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on August 31, 2016, 07:51:47 pm
He's going to play defense for the Razorbacks and offense for LaTech
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bdubyab60 on September 03, 2016, 03:19:49 pm
Thought defense was gonna be our strong suit this year. Didn't look good there
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: HorseFeathers on September 03, 2016, 03:28:56 pm
TD Hogs!
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: LRRandy on September 03, 2016, 03:44:50 pm
Quote from: bdubyab60 on September 03, 2016, 03:19:49 pm
Thought defense was gonna be our strong suit this year. Didn't look good there
swiss cheese
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: HorseFeathers on September 03, 2016, 04:06:38 pm
Austin Allen is looking pretty good so far....
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: HorseFeathers on September 03, 2016, 04:09:05 pm
Quote from: HorseFeathers on September 03, 2016, 04:06:38 pm
Austin Allen is looking pretty good so far....

......Nevermind
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bdubyab60 on September 03, 2016, 04:13:17 pm
Froholdt has to pick it up at guard. 3 drives killed by his missed blocks
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Longfellow on September 03, 2016, 04:23:50 pm
Storey time?
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bdubyab60 on September 03, 2016, 04:33:53 pm
All end 2 interceptions have lead to all their points. Got to block better. Allen can't stare at receivers like I stare at women at the beach. That gets you slapped.

With the turnover we had at key positions this is about what I expected though. Just find out a way to scratch out a win.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: VHSCoach2 on September 03, 2016, 05:17:27 pm
Absolutely pathetic today.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: HorseFeathers on September 03, 2016, 05:17:58 pm
We need to file a missing person's report for our oline and secondary
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: nastynice on September 03, 2016, 06:36:12 pm
Quote from: HorseFeathers on September 03, 2016, 05:17:58 pm
We need to file a missing person's report for our oline and secondary
Our secondary has been on the back of milk cartons for couple years now. Nothing new there.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: WPWells on September 03, 2016, 06:55:09 pm
Well it was so rough but 1-0
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bdubyab60 on September 03, 2016, 07:40:24 pm
At the end of the day it's a win.

Line needs to get to work, Allen needs to quit staring down every throw and the secondary has got to cover better. I still don't understand why we give so much cushion.

Still only gave up 20 points, held hem to field goal attempts instead of TD's and made stops in the end to win it.

I don't expect to beat TCU playing like that though. Hopefully there is s huge leap from today
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: LRRandy on September 03, 2016, 07:43:30 pm
Gotta think everyone would have accepted an ugly win after the Toledo game last year. It's a long building project. It's not sexy, and even though there are several playmakers in the WR corp the QB will keep them from being consistently explosive. The D is a walking cluster. If they don't fix the back seven the late season surge may not come. It is a win though. TCU next.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: beach bum on September 03, 2016, 08:24:41 pm
Well the positive is that the rest of the SEC looks really bad or unconvincing. After watching LSU again they can not pass so our secondary won't get exposed against them. We will beat them again. Oddly I think Auburn, Texas A&M, and Ole Miss give us trouble even though I don't think any of those 3 compete for the SEC title. Their style will not suit well for our secondary. We will be fine against the likes of Missouri, LSU, Florida, and Miss State. Alabama is well, Alabama. I figure this is most of you guys assessment too after seeing the secondary again this year.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bdubyab60 on September 03, 2016, 08:29:48 pm
Yep
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: WPWells on September 03, 2016, 08:47:27 pm
I agree. I thought we looked MUCH better on defense late though
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on September 03, 2016, 10:12:49 pm
Disgusting.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Valleysports on September 04, 2016, 06:47:48 pm
Quote from: Fred Bird on June 21, 2016, 06:58:00 pm
Can't tell if you're trolling or just dumb

So 10-2, 8-4?  Congrats on the 1-0 start......

Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on September 06, 2016, 08:17:50 am
I didn't get to see the game, only highlights and of course Chuck Barrett made us out to be the Patriots. CBB seemed to be pretty honest in his assessment. From what I could tell our O-Line didn't play well and our Defense was kinda shaky. I did watch Bama...we play like that against Bama and it could be ugly...

Valley, did you watch the game? If so what did you think?
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: WPWells on September 06, 2016, 08:27:08 am
Good assessment on the O-Line. They were shaky. AA looked just okay. Made a bad throw before the half where he stared down his receiver and threw a pick when it looked like we were going in for a 21-7 lead. Instead LT got good field position and marched it down for the tying score.

On the defensive side, I thought we got better as the game progressed. As many teams did last year, LT killed us with quick outs, but it appeared as the game went along we made adjustments. There weren't really any other areas where we struggled there. Our secondary covered well, and our line played great, getting pressure on the quarterback and stopping the run.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: LRRandy on September 06, 2016, 04:32:27 pm
Quote from: Fred Bird on September 06, 2016, 08:27:08 am
Good assessment on the O-Line. They were shaky. AA looked just okay. Made a bad throw before the half where he stared down his receiver and threw a pick when it looked like we were going in for a 21-7 lead. Instead LT got good field position and marched it down for the tying score.

On the defensive side, I thought we got better as the game progressed. As many teams did last year, LT killed us with quick outs, but it appeared as the game went along we made adjustments. There weren't really any other areas where we struggled there. Our secondary covered well, and our line played great, getting pressure on the quarterback and stopping the run.
cant tell if you're trolling or just dumb. They were favored by 26 points weren't they?
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on September 06, 2016, 04:44:30 pm
Quote from: LRRandy on September 06, 2016, 04:32:27 pm
cant tell if you're trolling or just dumb. They were favored by 26 points weren't they?

Which means absolutely nothing. We don't get a victory when we cover and still lose a game, nor do they take a victory away when we win and don't. As far as areas of struggling, we had several areas.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: beach bum on September 06, 2016, 05:49:08 pm
Quote from: ricepig on September 06, 2016, 04:44:30 pm
Which means absolutely nothing. We don't get a victory when we cover and still lose a game, nor do they take a victory away when we win and don't. As far as areas of struggling, we had several areas.

Of course the betting odds aren't what matters, but it sounds like your homerism is getting in the way of seeing just how bad beating a sub par team by 1 in your own stadium is. Arkansas is going to win a lot of games this year, but it is because the rest of our conference stinks too.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: HorseFeathers on September 06, 2016, 05:54:38 pm
Quote from: beach bum on September 06, 2016, 05:49:08 pm
Of course the betting odds aren't what matters, but it sounds like your homerism is getting in the way of seeing just how bad beating a sub par team by 1 in your own stadium is. Arkansas is going to win a lot of games this year, but it is because the rest of our conference stinks too.

100x better than losing to a team you are favored to beat?
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: LRRandy on September 06, 2016, 07:13:40 pm
Quote from: ricepig on September 06, 2016, 04:44:30 pm
Which means absolutely nothing. We don't get a victory when we cover and still lose a game, nor do they take a victory away when we win and don't. As far as areas of struggling, we had several areas.
you are correct in that it means nothing in regards to keeping or taking away a victory. But come on. Even you understand the correlation between betting lines, margin of victory and perception of the quality of the win. 26 points is a huge line. Only winning by one is telling. Unless of course they beat TCU then it means nothing.  ;D
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on September 06, 2016, 07:27:29 pm
Quote from: beach bum on September 06, 2016, 05:49:08 pm
Of course the betting odds aren't what matters, but it sounds like your homerism is getting in the way of seeing just how bad beating a sub par team by 1 in your own stadium is. Arkansas is going to win a lot of games this year, but it is because the rest of our conference stinks too.

A win is a win, if that's homerism, shoot me, lol. I wasn't the one who set the number as some barometer of judgment, obviously you did. I had this game down for a win, sure, but I don't base my satisfaction on a win by the point spread. I said we played so-so, which we did.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on September 06, 2016, 07:31:02 pm
Quote from: LRRandy on September 06, 2016, 07:13:40 pm
you are correct in that it means nothing in regards to keeping or taking away a victory. But come on. Even you understand the correlation between betting lines, margin of victory and perception of the quality of the win. 26 points is a huge line. Only winning by one is telling. Unless of course they beat TCU then it means nothing.  ;D

I seem to remember a team in the Big 1G struggling in several games last year, I guess the perception was they weren't as good as some perceived........

I have us splitting with TCU/aTm, we'll see.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: LRRandy on September 06, 2016, 08:18:42 pm
Quote from: ricepig on September 06, 2016, 07:31:02 pm
I seem to remember a team in the Big 1G struggling in several games last year, I guess the perception was they weren't as good as some perceived........

I have us splitting with TCU/aTm, we'll see.
perception turned to reality. Not as good as some (me) thought they could be, 12-1 wasn't exactly the expectation.  I'm curious to see how the fighting Berts come out this week. Clearly there  is an upward movement to the program. Were the struggles this week simply game one rust or a continuation of the early season struggles that have plagued his teams. A win over TCU would be another big step up on the ladder that he has his team climbing at the end of each year.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on September 06, 2016, 09:16:07 pm
Quote from: LRRandy on September 06, 2016, 08:18:42 pm
perception turned to reality. Not as good as some (me) thought they could be, 12-1 wasn't exactly the expectation.  I'm curious to see how the fighting Berts come out this week. Clearly there  is an upward movement to the program. Were the struggles this week simply game one rust or a continuation of the early season struggles that have plagued his teams. A win over TCU would be another big step up on the ladder that he has his team climbing at the end of each year.

3000 draft picks, anything less than a CFP spot was a bust. If you look at his record for 11 years, there isn't some "slow" start to his teams. His 2013 team started 3-0, but that didn't end well, haha. I'm thinking 8 wins, next year should be 9+.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: LRRandy on September 06, 2016, 09:48:39 pm
Quote from: ricepig on September 06, 2016, 09:16:07 pm
3000 draft picks, anything less than a CFP spot was a bust. If you look at his record for 11 years, there isn't some "slow" start to his teams. His 2013 team started 3-0, but that didn't end well, haha. I'm thinking 8 wins, next year should be 9+.
8 wins would be a good year. I personally don't like him. I am however objective enough to see that he is a good football coach and a quality leader that the UofA deserves.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: fbisgreat on September 07, 2016, 06:55:35 pm
Quote from: Longfellow on September 03, 2016, 04:23:50 pm
Storey time?
Your kidding right coach B only no's one name and that is Allen he's the best thing sence the last Allen.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: WPWells on September 07, 2016, 06:57:30 pm
That's the dumbest thing you've ever said
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on September 07, 2016, 06:57:36 pm
Quote from: fbisgreat on September 07, 2016, 06:55:35 pm
Your kidding right coach B only no's one name and that is Allen he's the best thing sence the last Allen.

Are you an English teacher?
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: beach bum on September 07, 2016, 07:07:35 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on September 07, 2016, 06:57:36 pm
Are you an English teacher?

Hahaha...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: fbisgreat on September 07, 2016, 07:17:40 pm
Quote from: Fred Bird on September 07, 2016, 06:57:30 pm
That's the dumbest thing you've ever said
It was a joke Fred bird and it was dumb.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on September 07, 2016, 07:58:39 pm
Quote from: fbisgreat on September 07, 2016, 07:17:40 pm
It was a joke Fred bird and it was dumb.

Well, you got half of that right......
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: fbisgreat on September 07, 2016, 08:13:01 pm
Quote from: ricepig on September 07, 2016, 07:58:39 pm
Well, you got half of that right......
What half did i get right.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on September 08, 2016, 11:13:52 am
The "ladder"
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Valleysports on September 08, 2016, 01:12:13 pm
Quote from: Coach Venny Slocombe on September 06, 2016, 08:17:50 am
Valley, did you watch the game? If so what did you think?

Not much - I got caught in front of a TV (Dish) watching SEC opponents, used the computer for a little of the Hog Game.  LA Tech was the perfect first game opponent for the Hogs - there will be major improvement this week.  Have to realize the learning curve some of these first time starters are having. Hopefully they can stay ahead of that curve, by at least 1 point this week. TCU was having their own learning curve last week as well. Austin Allen is the best QB at UofA.  Hog fans need to download that.  Hog recievers need to help by not dropping 4 passes and running incorrect routes.  Hopefully the OL can hold off the TCU pass rush, so the kid can gain confidence. 

The SEC IS the dominate conference!  Unfortunately for other conferences - this week - might have set them up for a post season butt whoopin...  The superior athleticism of the SEC will rain by years end. Rankings are skewed and I love it... 
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bdubyab60 on September 10, 2016, 09:25:46 pm
A game we absolutely gave away
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bdubyab60 on September 10, 2016, 09:56:45 pm
And now one that has turned in to a great one. Crazy
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bdubyab60 on September 10, 2016, 10:04:56 pm
WPS baby. What a game.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Pokey03 on September 10, 2016, 10:05:47 pm
Nice road win for the Hogs!
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: BrianfromCarlisle on September 10, 2016, 10:07:39 pm
Amazing game!  That was a big road win
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on September 10, 2016, 10:57:02 pm
A Texas team weeps. Love it!
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on September 10, 2016, 10:59:22 pm
Quote from: bdubyab60 on September 10, 2016, 09:25:46 pm
A game we absolutely gave away

dub, one doesn't need to speak, or type to soon, haha. I was already telling myself it was still going to be alright this season until the TD to pull within 2. I'm glad I get to hold off on that another week, lol.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on September 11, 2016, 08:51:48 am
My wife told me to shut up and quit being negative hahaha. I had already told everyone here we will lose. She kept saying it's not over yet negative Nancy!

Glad I could admit she was right!
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on September 11, 2016, 10:27:43 am
Quote from: AirWarren on September 11, 2016, 08:51:48 am
My wife told me to shut up and quit being negative hahaha. I had already told everyone here we will lose. She kept saying it's not over yet negative Nancy!

Glad I could admit she was right!

We've been telling you to shut up for years!
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: VHSCoach2 on September 11, 2016, 01:06:08 pm
Hogs are #24 in the newest AP poll.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Valleysports on September 11, 2016, 02:16:39 pm
I was all over a couple Hog Fan's who kept saying it's over now, we can't score in OT, we can't stop them from scoring, no way can get this 2 pt conversion.  They started off with the conspiracy BS about another Allen - they regretted that - I explained what, how, and why, he did everything on every play. lol  Austin Allen played exceptional yesterday!

Loved the game!  The right competition for this team at the right time.  But there are some major problems that better get corrected by Sept 24th (opening SEC).  One of your OL needs to be replaced.  He'll be waving at 1st round draft DE, Myles Garrett as he blows by.  First four SEC games A&M, Alabama, Ole Miss, Auburn...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bdubyab60 on September 11, 2016, 02:28:29 pm
Quote from: ricepig on September 10, 2016, 10:59:22 pm
dub, one doesn't need to speak, or type to soon, haha. I was already telling myself it was still going to be alright this season until the TD to pull within 2. I'm glad I get to hold off on that another week, lol.
Aint that the truth lol I thought we were done
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: DerekOxford on September 11, 2016, 02:30:57 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on September 11, 2016, 02:16:39 pm
I was all over a couple Hog Fan's who kept saying it's over now, we can't score in OT, we can't stop them from scoring, no way can get this 2 pt conversion.  They started off with the conspiracy BS about another Allen - they regretted that - I explained what, how, and why, he did everything on every play. lol  Austin Allen played exceptional yesterday!

Loved the game!  The right competition for this team at the right time.  But there are some major problems that better get corrected by Sept 24th (opening SEC).  One of your OL needs to be replaced.  He'll be waving at 1st round draft DE, Myles Garrett as he blows by.  First four SEC games A&M, Alabama, Ole Miss, Auburn...

If they can fix the pass blocking issues and continue to find balance offensively, and learn from their mistakes defensively, 9 or 10 wins is very possible now.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: WPWells on September 11, 2016, 03:43:26 pm
2 down, 13 to go
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: beach bum on September 11, 2016, 08:12:08 pm
The Texas A&M game will show us if we are capable of being a 10 win team. We win this and I think we get to that 10 wins in the regular season. If Texas A&M can beat Auburn next week I believe in Dallas you will be watching who gets 2nd in the West whoever wins in 2 weeks.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Valleysports on September 12, 2016, 01:36:57 pm
Quote from: beach bum on September 11, 2016, 08:12:08 pm
If Texas A&M can beat Auburn next week I believe in Dallas you will be watching who gets 2nd in the West whoever wins in 2 weeks.

Whatcha talkin bout there beach bum?  ;D
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Valleysports on September 12, 2016, 02:26:21 pm
Quote from: DerekOxford on September 11, 2016, 02:30:57 pm
If they can fix the pass blocking issues and continue to find balance offensively, and learn from their mistakes defensively, 9 or 10 wins is very possible now.

That's saying, after the Bobcats & Braves, the Hogs might only lose 2-3 SEC Games. A,A,A
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: beach bum on September 12, 2016, 05:04:33 pm
Anybody else going to the showdown in Dallas against A&M? It will be my first time to AT&T Stadium and I won't have to watch the Cowgirls to do so.... That makes me happy!
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: WPWells on September 12, 2016, 05:27:38 pm
I'll be there! It's looking like I may make all 12 games
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Proud Buckaroo on September 12, 2016, 06:45:19 pm
I'm calling it right now....

If we beat Texas A&M and go into the BAMA game 5-0. We have a big shot at winning that game. We had the Bama game won in the 4th quarter until we let them come back. The last two years. It has been a very close game. I just feel good about it being the year we beat them. AA is light years away from where BA was four years ago. He is doing things that took BA four years to be able to do.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: LRRandy on September 12, 2016, 08:21:20 pm
Quote from: Proud Buckaroo on September 12, 2016, 06:45:19 pm
I'm calling it right now....

If we beat Texas A&M and go into the BAMA game 5-0. We have a big shot at winning that game. We had the Bama game won in the 4th quarter until we let them come back. The last two years. It has been a very close game. I just feel good about it being the year we beat them. AA is light years away from where BA was four years ago. He is doing things that took BA four years to be able to do.
man would I love to see that. Somebody needs to knock Tuscalucifer off his perch.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Valleysports on September 13, 2016, 09:09:24 am
Hog Fans are precious!   :)
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on September 13, 2016, 09:24:59 am
Quote from: Proud Buckaroo on September 12, 2016, 06:45:19 pm
I'm calling it right now....

If we beat Texas A&M and go into the BAMA game 5-0. We have a big shot at winning that game. We had the Bama game won in the 4th quarter until we let them come back. The last two years. It has been a very close game. I just feel good about it being the year we beat them. AA is light years away from where BA was four years ago. He is doing things that took BA four years to be able to do.
makes you wonder why he never got a chance when BA was so bad
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on September 13, 2016, 09:57:34 am
Coach is big on experience. That's really the only reason I can think of.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on September 13, 2016, 10:02:15 am
You can't get experience without being put in the game
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on September 13, 2016, 10:32:05 am
Well if Bret said he wasn't ready then I think he wasn't ready. He has proven in two games that he is ready this year. And I'll take it.

The best player on the team is always the second string player and the one on the bench according to some.

I'm just glad he was able to put the ball right in Morgan's hands and in sprinkle's hands during those touchdown passes and not ding it off the goalpost.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on September 13, 2016, 10:42:14 am
I just think it shows just because you make 4million a year you don't always make the best decision.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on September 13, 2016, 12:29:44 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on September 13, 2016, 10:42:14 am
I just think it shows just because you make 4million a year you don't always make the best decision.

And I think posting on a message board doesn't prove you or me are qualified to know what the best decision is/was, lol. He's way more qualified than you or me, now I'm sure we know more about different fertilizer blends than him!
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on September 13, 2016, 04:55:18 pm
I've just heard that excuse forever. He makes 4 million a year blah blah blah
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on September 13, 2016, 05:10:47 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on September 13, 2016, 04:55:18 pm
I've just heard that excuse forever. He makes 4 million a year blah blah blah

Funny, all I ever read in your posts is "blah blah blah"........
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on September 13, 2016, 05:59:49 pm
That's because you're lucy from charlie brown
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: beach bum on September 13, 2016, 06:08:36 pm
The game winning play was a stupid play call. I'd like that call from the 2 yard line and not the 5  yard line. We are lucky TCU doesn't form tackle by wrapping your arms around the trunk of the carrier. He tried to just shoulder Austin Allen and lost TCU the game with terrible fundamentals. He had him stopped well short of the end zone if form tackling was a thing for TCU.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on September 13, 2016, 08:14:11 pm
Quote from: beach bum on September 13, 2016, 06:08:36 pm
The game winning play was a stupid play call. I'd like that call from the 2 yard line and not the 5  yard line. We are lucky TCU doesn't form tackle by wrapping your arms around the trunk of the carrier. He tried to just shoulder Austin Allen and lost TCU the game with terrible fundamentals. He had him stopped well short of the end zone if form tackling was a thing for TCU.

Really?? Enos said he thinks of the player, not the play in that situation. He wanted AA with the ball. As far as tackling, we all know that is a lost art.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on September 13, 2016, 08:15:02 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on September 13, 2016, 05:59:49 pm
That's because you're lucy from charlie brown

And you keep trying to kick the ball, but.....well, we know how that ends.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Valleysports on September 14, 2016, 11:20:14 am
Quote from: AirWarren on September 13, 2016, 10:32:05 am
Well if Bret said he wasn't ready then I think he wasn't ready. He has proven in two games that he is ready this year. And I'll take it.

I'm just glad he was able to put the ball right in Morgan's hands and in sprinkle's hands during those touchdown passes and not ding it off the goalpost.

I'm just glad he & OL are getting this experience against these no rush, no defense, sub conference teams. 
edit: I was being serious - perfect set up by Long...

Seems like Texas State and Nichols State have been rivals over the years. 
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Valleysports on September 14, 2016, 11:34:15 am
Quote from: Proud Buckaroo on September 12, 2016, 06:45:19 pm
I'm calling it right now....

If we beat Texas A&M and go into the BAMA game 5-0. We have a big shot at winning that game. We had the Bama game won in the 4th quarter until we let them come back. The last two years. It has been a very close game. I just feel good about it being the year we beat them. AA is light years away from where BA was four years ago. He is doing things that took BA four years to be able to do.

Radio Fans have gone from Hogs finishing 2nd in the conference, to 25% chance of beating Bama, to 50% beating Bama, to Most Likely.  haha - In another week Hogs will be in contention for the National Championship. Y'all might want to hold off on the Bama Game - Razorbacks haven't beaten A&M since 2011.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on September 14, 2016, 12:56:50 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on September 14, 2016, 11:20:14 am
I'm just glad he & OL are getting this experience against these no rush, no defense, sub conference teams. 
edit: I was being serious - perfect set up by Long...

Seems like Texas State and Nichols State have been rivals over the years.

Texas St is FBS, Nicholls, who almost beat Georgia last weekend, is FCS.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: beach bum on September 14, 2016, 02:01:33 pm
Quote from: ricepig on September 14, 2016, 12:56:50 pm
Texas St is FBS, Nicholls, who almost beat Georgia last weekend, is FCS.

35-40% of the FBS needs to be with the FCS anyway...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Longfellow on September 14, 2016, 02:15:23 pm
I don't know about 40%. That's 45 teams. I think you could probably take the bottom 2 or 3 from the group of 5 conferences though. That's more like 12%
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: beach bum on September 14, 2016, 02:42:34 pm
I do know the term "DI prospect" has become so watered down over the last 10 years with these added teams and ridiculous amount of scholarships each team is allowed.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Longfellow on September 14, 2016, 03:01:31 pm
That I definitely agree with. Every kid thinks they're a prospect if they go to camps or get letters. I got letters from all kinds of schools that I had no shot at playing for
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: dc24 on September 14, 2016, 03:10:48 pm
Quote from: ricepig on September 14, 2016, 12:56:50 pm
Texas St is FBS, Nicholls, who almost beat Georgia last weekend, is FCS.

Texas State used to be in the Southland Conference before joining the Sun Belt so I'm sure they used to be rivals.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Valleysports on September 14, 2016, 05:22:27 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on September 14, 2016, 11:20:14 am
Seems like Texas State and Nichols State have been rivals over the years.

Quote from: ricepig on September 14, 2016, 12:56:50 pm
Texas St is FBS, Nicholls, who almost beat Georgia last weekend, is FCS.

Quote from: dc24 on September 14, 2016, 03:10:48 pm
Texas State used to be in the Southland Conference before joining the Sun Belt so I'm sure they used to be rivals.

Yes they were rivals right up through 2011. Thanks ricepig for sharing what conferences they play in now.  Like always, you could just agree with the statement....  ::)
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on September 14, 2016, 05:52:59 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on September 14, 2016, 05:22:27 pm
Yes they were rivals right up through 2011. Thanks ricepig for sharing what conferences they play in now.  Like always, you could just agree with the statement....  ::)

Nah, what fun would that be? I know they were previously in the same conference, but we're they rivals? I seem to remember getting lectures from you that just because certain teams are in the same conference, it doesn't make them rivals, haha. Save yourself the trouble of posting the definition, I know what it is. Do rivals play in a rivalry game?
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Valleysports on September 15, 2016, 12:46:59 pm
Quote from: ricepig on September 14, 2016, 05:52:59 pm
Nah, what fun would that be? I know they were previously in the same conference, but we're they rivals? I seem to remember getting lectures from you that just because certain teams are in the same conference, it doesn't make them rivals, haha. Save yourself the trouble of posting the definition, I know what it is. Do rivals play in a rivalry game?

Tex St & Nichols St were serious rivals. That fact shouldn't bother you - has no reflection on yourself.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: beach bum on September 15, 2016, 12:58:09 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on September 15, 2016, 12:46:59 pm
Tex St & Nichols St were serious rivals. That fact shouldn't bother you - has no reflection on yourself.

+1
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on September 15, 2016, 01:28:03 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on September 15, 2016, 12:46:59 pm
Tex St & Nichols St were serious rivals. That fact shouldn't bother you - has no reflection on yourself.

True, I never heard of either of them before we played Nicholls, or Texas St joined the Sun Belt.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Valleysports on September 15, 2016, 03:50:15 pm
Yeah back in the day Texas State played in the Lone Star Conference.  We talked before I discovered Tech.  They had DII National Championship's, but Tech had Miss America.  Tex St was the top DII Football Team in the 80's.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on September 15, 2016, 06:09:33 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on September 15, 2016, 03:50:15 pm
Yeah back in the day Texas State played in the Lone Star Conference.  We talked before I discovered Tech.  They had DII National Championship's, but Tech had Miss America.  Tex St was the top DII Football Team in the 80's.

Oh, so back in the leather helmet days, gotcha.....On a different subject, any teal?
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on September 15, 2016, 06:13:34 pm
(http://m5.paperblog.com/i/31/315542/movie-of-the-day-necessary-roughness-L-9cUDnu.jpeg)
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: beach bum on September 15, 2016, 06:24:09 pm
I totally forgot about that movie...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Valleysports on September 16, 2016, 03:25:07 pm
Quote from: ricepig on September 15, 2016, 06:09:33 pm
Oh, so back in the leather helmet days, gotcha.....On a different subject, any teal?

No
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on September 16, 2016, 03:32:13 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on September 16, 2016, 03:25:07 pm
No

We've got some pretty big mosquitos flying...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on September 16, 2016, 05:04:07 pm
I've got teal
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Valleysports on September 17, 2016, 11:35:37 am
I'm not in the mood to duck hunt (hunt at all) yet...  Put out a bunch of wheat seeds - doves flew off.  LOL  But I do have full ponds over here waiting, should be the best season ever Cuckoobird...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on September 17, 2016, 12:02:22 pm
I hope you aren't gauging that by the DU waterfoul forecasts. Those things are all about money and nothing else
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on September 17, 2016, 03:11:08 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on September 17, 2016, 11:35:37 am
I'm not in the mood to duck hunt (hunt at all) yet...  Put out a bunch of wheat seeds - doves flew off.  LOL  But I do have full ponds over here waiting, should be the best season ever Cuckoobird...

I'd have to have an air-conditioned blind to hunt......30,000 acres of river bottom ground won't even be harvested along the Black, Strawberry, and Cache rivers, it will be interesting to see how that effects the duck hunting.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on September 18, 2016, 10:20:32 am
Well, it's aTm this week, so I expect to see a lot of Valley posts this week, lol. While we looked much better against the spread attack last night, TX St isn't aTm. Hopefully we get the W.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: VHSCoach2 on September 18, 2016, 10:37:36 am
I'm just glad we didn't have a 4th quarter collapse against a Texas team last night like we did last week against TCU and the past two years against Texas A&M.

Unusually late kickoff for the game next week, too. 8 PM.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on September 18, 2016, 12:07:24 pm
Quote from: VHSCoach2 on September 18, 2016, 10:37:36 am
I'm just glad we didn't have a 4th quarter collapse against a Texas team last night like we did last week against TCU and the past two years against Texas A&M.

Unusually late kickoff for the game next week, too. 8 PM.

Yeah, because TX ST is in the same class of team as TCU and aTM??? And yes, it'll be a long night in Arlington, lots of commercials, haha.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on September 18, 2016, 02:33:37 pm
Quote from: ricepig on September 18, 2016, 10:20:32 am
Well, it's aTm this week, so I expect to see a lot of Valley posts this week, lol. While we looked much better against the spread attack last night, TX St isn't aTm. Hopefully we get the W.

RW3 looks to be getting comfortable. It's time for our line to step it up. I feel good about us getting a win.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Proud Buckaroo on September 18, 2016, 03:56:44 pm
I feel very confident that we can win this week. Still debating on going to the Little rock game or not. Not really sure if I want to. I watched Alcorn against Pine bluff.. That was probably the most boring game I have ever watched in my life. lol.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on September 18, 2016, 04:45:01 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on September 18, 2016, 02:33:37 pm
RW3 looks to be getting comfortable. It's time for our line to step it up. I feel good about us getting a win.

Yeah, I like RWIII a lot, we need to give Kody's carries to Whaley.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Proud Buckaroo on September 18, 2016, 05:02:02 pm
Quote from: ricepig on September 18, 2016, 04:45:01 pm
Yeah, I like RWIII a lot, we need to give Kody's carries to Whaley.

I agree completely. I mean, I'm pretty sure I saw Kody practicing in the movie Greater...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on September 18, 2016, 05:46:34 pm
Quote from: Proud Buckaroo on September 18, 2016, 05:02:02 pm
I agree completely. I mean, I'm pretty sure I saw Kody practicing in the movie Greater...

They should have left Kody at fullback, but I imagine the promise for him to come back was the opportunity to play RB. He's good for a yard every time, but doesn't have the vision or wheels to be a big time RB.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on September 18, 2016, 06:59:35 pm
Quote from: ricepig on September 18, 2016, 04:45:01 pm
Yeah, I like RWIII a lot, we need to give Kody's carries to Whaley.

Sure do, I can't stand when he gets the ball. I mean it boils my blood when we waste a 2nd down handoff for him to get 2-3 yards and not even fall forward.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bdubyab60 on September 18, 2016, 07:38:45 pm
You can tell Whaley has another gear. Maybe pass protection is a weakness. But I'd sure like to see Whaley get more carries. Just matter of time before he houses one.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bleudog on September 18, 2016, 08:17:22 pm
http://www.masseyratings.com/team.php?t=316&s=286577
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bleudog on September 18, 2016, 08:30:28 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on September 15, 2016, 06:13:34 pm
(http://m5.paperblog.com/i/31/315542/movie-of-the-day-necessary-roughness-L-9cUDnu.jpeg)

Nothing against Sinbad, but c'mon man, here's what's memorable about the movie.  ;D

(http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx68/bleudog71730/Roughness-Kathy-Ireland_294_zpsrgqezcmh.jpg) (http://s742.photobucket.com/user/bleudog71730/media/Roughness-Kathy-Ireland_294_zpsrgqezcmh.jpg.html)
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on September 18, 2016, 08:38:16 pm
Quote from: bleudog on September 18, 2016, 08:17:22 pm
http://www.masseyratings.com/team.php?t=316&s=286577

Massey likes us, ESPN FPI hates us, lol.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Valleysports on September 19, 2016, 10:31:44 am
Quote from: ricepig on September 18, 2016, 10:20:32 am
Well, it's aTm this week, so I expect to see a lot of Valley posts this week, lol. While we looked much better against the spread attack last night, TX St isn't aTm. Hopefully we get the W.
Well now, lol.  Last year I pulled for Arkansas over A&M.  However this year, being an SEC Fan and knowing truth, well we need to get the best teams to the top. I've got to see the Auburn vs A&M game, to continue my accuracy.  What do think?  It's clear what I think - A&M might have a bust out game on Arkansas.  I still predict an 0-4 SEC start for Hogs. Proud of the win over an average TCU, but it's fixing to get real up in here. 
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Proud Buckaroo on September 19, 2016, 11:20:00 am
Quote from: Valleysports on September 19, 2016, 10:31:44 am
Well now, lol.  Last year I pulled for Arkansas over A&M.  However this year, being an SEC Fan and knowing truth, well we need to get the best teams to the top. I've got to see the Auburn vs A&M game, to continue my accuracy.  What do think?  It's clear what I think - A&M might have a bust out game on Arkansas.  I still predict an 0-4 SEC start for Hogs. Proud of the win over an average TCU, but it's fixing to get real up in here.

Lol. "0-4 SEC" start. That's cute. I watched the auburn/A&M game myself. If Franklin was the QB the whole game. Different game there, my friend.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: WPWells on September 19, 2016, 11:32:42 am
I see your 0-4 SEC start and will raise you a 4-0 SEC start
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on September 19, 2016, 11:38:56 am
Quote from: Valleysports on September 19, 2016, 10:31:44 am
Well now, lol.  Last year I pulled for Arkansas over A&M.  However this year, being an SEC Fan and knowing truth, well we need to get the best teams to the top. I've got to see the Auburn vs A&M game, to continue my accuracy.  What do think?  It's clear what I think - A&M might have a bust out game on Arkansas.  I still predict an 0-4 SEC start for Hogs. Proud of the win over an average TCU, but it's fixing to get real up in here.

I had TCU/aTm as a split before the season started, hopefully it's a sweep. Isn't anyone going to have a "bust out" game on Arkansas, our style doesn't lend to that. We won't be 0-4, maybe 2-2 at worse. I had us 8-4 before the season started, this week will determine if that's pessimistic, or optimistic.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: VHSCoach2 on September 19, 2016, 12:28:15 pm
Quote from: ricepig on September 18, 2016, 12:07:24 pm
Yeah, because TX ST is in the same class of team as TCU and aTM??? And yes, it'll be a long night in Arlington, lots of commercials, haha.

It was more of a joke about collapsing against Texas teams in the fourth quarter.   ;D  We had that game well in hand by the end of the first quarter.

And yes, I remember the days when football games went right at three hours.  Now it's closer to four with all the commercials and (I think) a slightly longer halftime.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Valleysports on September 19, 2016, 12:29:04 pm
Yeah Buckaroo - the only miss I've come close too, is that I thought Arkansas would beat TCU by 2 TD's.  Anything can happen, but I don't think the A&M game will be about QB's.  It'll be about Garret, Hall, Mack butt stomping Arkansas non challenged O line.  Then A&M's receivers burning Arkansas not so good secondary. 

As for the 4-0 season, I think your optimism is revealing.  LOL. For those who know football, I'm basing that on A&M, Alabama, Ole Miss, Auburn defenses.  Low scoring games for Arkansas, while Ole Miss & Auburn still have time to get their offenses rolling.  Keep it real...  ;)
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Proud Buckaroo on September 19, 2016, 12:47:54 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on September 19, 2016, 12:29:04 pm
Yeah Buckaroo - the only miss I've come close too, is that I thought Arkansas would beat TCU by 2 TD's.  Anything can happen, but I don't think the A&M game will be about QB's.  It'll be about Garret, Hall, Mack butt stomping Arkansas non challenged O line.  Then A&M's receivers burning Arkansas not so good secondary. 

As for the 4-0 season, I think your optimism is revealing.  LOL. For those who know football, I'm basing that on A&M, Alabama, Ole Miss, Auburn defenses.  Low scoring for Arkansas games for Arkansas and Ole Miss & Auburn have time to get their offenses rolling.  Keep it real...  ;)

Ole pee will not beat us in Arkansas. I give you the Bama game, yes. The "not so challenged" line can be the same thing towards Texas A&M.... What are you going to do about Wise?? Our secondary has gotten better. We will see 8PM this Saturday..
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on September 19, 2016, 01:20:04 pm
8-4 is what I was thinking too.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Valleysports on September 19, 2016, 02:45:47 pm
Quote from: Proud Buckaroo on September 19, 2016, 12:47:54 pm
Ole pee will not beat us in Arkansas. I give you the Bama game, yes. The "not so challenged" line can be the same thing towards Texas A&M.... What are you going to do about Wise?? Our secondary has gotten better. We will see 8PM this Saturday..

Work with me here  ;)  When I said "not so challenged" I meant they haven't been challenged this year.  La Tech, TCU, some DII Tex team.  Arkansas OL hasn't faced a test yet, but have shown enough to see there's a world of hurt sitting on the door step.  A&M's OL however, has handled UCLA (1/2 a game) & Auburn?  Flip that light switch Buck. Yes the Hog Secondary has gotten much better - do you understand A&M's receivers are the best in the nation?  What am I going to do with Wise?  I'm going to watch the game on TV, lol.  What are you going to do when your world unravels in the 2nd half of this game?  That's when Wise (DL), Secondary, Linebackers, are gonna be ready for a tag.  I'm sorry that's just reality..... but I do appreciate your team dedication.  Do you have any football perspective about the game?  Maybe Arkansas Running Game?  Passing Game?  How's Arkansas gonna beat A&M?       
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bdubyab60 on September 19, 2016, 07:20:54 pm
Hopefully by not giving it away in the 4th quarter this time lol. Not like A&M has beaten world beaters.

I think Hogs gotta run the crap outta the ball. Allen of course has to be solid. Think we need a couple turnovers and capitalize on them as well.

It's a winnable game.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Valleysports on September 19, 2016, 09:48:39 pm
Found a TV with the SEC channel.  Ole Miss / Bama is on today.  I want to see that A&M / Auburn game.  Wondering if A&M has shored that defense up the middle.  While they've improved drastically, however that middle was still soft in 2nd half of the UCLA game.  This will certainly be the first decent defense Arkansas has faced since Spring Practice, but I think you're right bduby, maybe Arkansas can run it off the tackles... Arkansas has the better Coaches, especially OC.

UCLA & Auburn are World Beaters compared to TCU.   
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on September 19, 2016, 09:57:42 pm
For Arkansas to beat A&M a few things have to happen...

O-Line has to be solid in the run game. We have to have positive yards, not negative...stay ahead of the chains and that will allow us to run some play action. While AA has played very good I don't want to have to rely on him to win it. He needs help from the running game. I think our receivers match up well with A&M's secondary, but AA has to have time.

Defensively this could be a nightmare for us. Our front seven can give A&M nightmares as well, but our secondary cannot give up the big play. We also have to contain A&M's QB and not let him break out...

All that being said I think CBB finds a way and the Hogs win a close one...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: WPWells on September 19, 2016, 11:17:50 pm
+1 good analysis Venny
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: VHSCoach2 on September 25, 2016, 12:35:05 am
The offensive line must improve.  Austin Allen is a gunslinger and tough as nails, but his season will be over if he gets beaten down like he was tonight.  If the o-line can improve, and we can figure out how to get the ball in the end zone from inside the five, I honestly believe we can beat Florida and LSU at home.

We should also beat Mississippi State and Missouri on the road.  I'm worried about the Auburn game on the road, and we all know what Alabama has in store for everyone, plus Ole Miss.

Honestly, 9-3 isn't out of the question. 10-2 if I really want to push it and say we beat Ole Miss, but I'm not comfortable saying that....yet.

Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on September 25, 2016, 08:22:08 am
I said 8-4 before the season started, I'm still there now. We've got to be able to get 1 yard when we need it, simple as that. The pass protection, was faulty, but Austin was only sacked one on the strip.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on September 25, 2016, 09:58:07 am
Offensive line is hot garbage.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Lumberjackfan1978 on September 25, 2016, 12:09:37 pm
Offensive line must improve simple as that.Austin is a tough guy but he was beaten to much against A&M
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Lumberjackfan1978 on September 25, 2016, 12:15:10 pm
Quote from: ricepig on September 25, 2016, 08:22:08 am
I said 8-4 before the season started, I'm still there now. We've got to be able to get 1 yard when we need it, simple as that. The pass protection, was faulty, but Austin was only sacked one on the strip.
I think 8-4 is possible,pass protection must improve though
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bleudog on September 25, 2016, 01:25:19 pm
http://www.masseyratings.com/team.php?t=316&s=286577
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: VHSCoach2 on September 25, 2016, 01:44:58 pm
Hogs dropped to 20th in the AP poll, 22nd in the Coaches' poll.

Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Valleysports on September 26, 2016, 09:35:15 am
Quote from: Valleysports on September 19, 2016, 10:31:44 am
Last year I pulled for Arkansas over A&M.  However this year, being an SEC Fan and knowing truth, well we need to get the best teams to the top.  It's clear what I think - A&M might have a bust out game on Arkansas.  I need to see the Auburn/A&M game.  I still predict an 0-4 SEC start for Hogs. Proud of the win over an average TCU, but it's fixing to get real up in here.

Quote from: Proud Buckaroo on September 19, 2016, 11:20:00 am
Lol. "0-4 SEC" start. That's cute. I watched the auburn/A&M game myself. If Franklin was the QB the whole game. Different game there, my friend.

Quote from: Fred Bird on September 19, 2016, 11:32:42 am
I see your 0-4 SEC start and will raise you a 4-0 SEC start

That game is done!  Seriously I'm not pulling against the Hogs, it's just these first 4 SEC Team's defenses.  And Ole Miss & Auburn having time to get their offense rolling.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on September 26, 2016, 05:43:45 pm
Rose colored glasses. Have a friend from Tennessee at work who today said, "99% of hog fans can't have a realistic conversation about football," and I couldn't have agreed with him more.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on September 26, 2016, 06:35:19 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on September 26, 2016, 05:43:45 pm
Rose colored glasses. Have a friend from Tennessee at work who today said, "99% of hog fans can't have a realistic conversation about football," and I couldn't have agreed with him more.

Lol, fans of every team can't have a realistic conversations, you seem to have trouble understanding that fan, is short for fanatic.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on September 26, 2016, 06:52:29 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on September 26, 2016, 05:43:45 pm
Rose colored glasses. Have a friend from Tennessee at work who today said, "99% of hog fans can't have a realistic conversation about football," and I couldn't have agreed with him more.

Coming from a tenner fan....a team that has been garbage for some time now, I'll take that as a compliment haha. And I'm not even a hog homer!
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: HorseFeathers on September 26, 2016, 08:38:11 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on September 26, 2016, 05:43:45 pm
Rose colored glasses. Have a friend from Tennessee at work who today said, "99% of hog fans can't have a realistic conversation about football," and I couldn't have agreed with him more.

You are right...They either preach gloom and doom, burn the stadium to the ground and drop football(call themselves "realists"), or they pump rainbows and unicorns up everyones hindquarters(Generally hated by the "realists" crowd, because they actually have positive thoughts)
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Valleysports on September 26, 2016, 09:51:06 pm
Quote from: ricepig on September 26, 2016, 06:35:19 pm
Lol, fans of every team can't have a realistic conversations, you seem to have trouble understanding that fan, is short for fanatic.

Well there you go - as has always, you can check with me for a realistic rundown.  However don't expect an unbiased conference conversation. 
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on September 26, 2016, 09:56:06 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on September 26, 2016, 09:51:06 pm
Well there you go - as has always, you can check with me for a realistic rundown.  However don't expect an unbiased conference conversation.

I'll be sure and ask you, if I want one.....
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on September 27, 2016, 12:22:40 am
AA has played well...but a couple more games like that and he will be on the sidelines on crutches...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on September 27, 2016, 06:44:25 am
I wish we would have had him a couple years ago. Possibly could have won some of those games where ba choked. I know I know after 5 years there and in his last 5 games ba did much better but aa seems to have what it would have taken to put games like toledo away
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Valleysports on September 27, 2016, 08:41:56 am
Hog Fan's look backwards a lot. Always in the could've / should've mode.  Can't y'all get off BA's back for goodness sake.  Every Hog QB, Coach, Player, is only one timely mistake away from being burned at the stake.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: DerekOxford on September 27, 2016, 08:53:43 am
Still on pace for the 8-4 I said. I had it 3-1 through September and that's what it ended up.

Had a TCU loss and A&M win so that's a wash. Gonna be tough to beat Ole Miss coming off a bye the week after Alabama, however.

Auburn game also seems worrisome now, knowing how good their defense is. They can't really score but they can stop people.

Florida will be tough, but seems more winnable now after how they performed against Tennessee. Who knows what direction LSU will go under Orgeron.

Mississippi State seems very winnable, but watch out for Mizzou in that finale. Drew Lock can sling the rock around and their defense is young but physical. Hogs should take care of business but it won't be easy like last year was.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on September 27, 2016, 10:08:06 am
Quote from: Valleysports on September 27, 2016, 08:41:56 am
Hog Fan's look backwards a lot. Always in the could've / should've mode.  Can't y'all get off BA's back for goodness sake.  Every Hog QB, Coach, Player, is only one timely mistake away from being burned at the stake.

I didn't see any "Hog" fans on BA's back. However, it's no different on Razorback message boards than any other team's, somebody is thrown under the bus every week, lol.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Valleysports on September 27, 2016, 12:58:00 pm
I've seen it tossed around, especially on that other forum. It was mentioned in the post just before mine, not in a bad way, just looking backward as I said.

I agree with what you're saying about all Fans having the same Fanatic viewpoint.  You pointing that out is starting to make me think that, not having a team, isn't so bad.  And of course it helps to have an accurate poster in the conversation.   ;) 
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on September 27, 2016, 06:18:36 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on September 27, 2016, 12:58:00 pm
I've seen it tossed around, especially on that other forum. It was mentioned in the post just before mine, not in a bad way, just looking backward as I said.

I agree with what you're saying about all Fans having the same Fanatic viewpoint.  You pointing that out is starting to make me think that, not having a team, isn't so bad.  And of course it helps to have an accurate poster in the conversation.   ;)

Thanks for pointing out about my accurate posts, but I don't need any adulation, I'm just a regular guy. As far as HV, you are going to get 2500 different view points, most ignorant of basic football.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on September 27, 2016, 06:59:23 pm
Sounds like the typical hog fanatic
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on September 27, 2016, 07:12:47 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on September 27, 2016, 06:59:23 pm
Sounds like the typical hog fanatic

Sounds like your typical troll.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on September 27, 2016, 09:26:31 pm
I doubt they are trolls
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Trojanbird on September 27, 2016, 09:39:30 pm
Quote from: ricepig on September 27, 2016, 07:12:47 pm
Sounds like your typical troll.
+1
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: beach bum on September 27, 2016, 09:42:04 pm
He is just a troll to you because you can't handle harsh realities.... You say troll. I say truth speaker.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on September 27, 2016, 10:07:48 pm
It is amazing when opinions differ that someone will cry troll
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: HorseFeathers on September 27, 2016, 10:09:08 pm
Quote from: beach bum on September 27, 2016, 09:42:04 pm
He is just a troll to you because you can't handle harsh realities.... You say troll. I say truth speaker.

harsh reality? it's a game...What's Harsh about that for the fans?
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on September 27, 2016, 10:30:26 pm
Quote from: beach bum on September 27, 2016, 09:42:04 pm
He is just a troll to you because you can't handle harsh realities.... You say troll. I say truth speaker.

Lol, and what reality has he ever spoken of? And what makes you think he speaking the truth, because it's something you agree with?
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on September 27, 2016, 11:03:09 pm
Wow, I can't even give AA a compliment without being called a troll. What makes you think I'm not speaking the truth, because you disagree?
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on September 28, 2016, 07:41:29 am
Quote from: cuckoobird on September 27, 2016, 11:03:09 pm
Wow, I can't even give AA a compliment without being called a troll. What makes you think I'm not speaking the truth, because you disagree?

If disparaging his brother is your way of giving a compliment, so be it. Would you like to repost all those "compliments" you gave BA? And this pity look you're going for doesn't suit you very well, haha.

I'm sure you'll respond with your, "I'm a realist" defense, which never accentuates the positives.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on September 28, 2016, 10:04:59 am
No sir, I even said BA did a good job after being there five years and playing in his last five games.it was fact that he bounced one off the goalpost against Toledo throwing to wide-open Hunter Henry. You can't disagree with that
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on September 28, 2016, 10:11:12 am
Quote from: cuckoobird on September 28, 2016, 10:04:59 am
No sir, I even said BA did a good job after being there five years and playing in his last five games.it was fact that he bounced one off the goalpost against Toledo throwing to wide-open Hunter Henry. You can't disagree with that

It took 4 years and 6 games for you ever to admit he needed to be playing QB. I didn't see you calling for Hunter Henry to be benched for his holding call that eliminated a TD, or Mitchell, I think it was him, for holding on Cornelius TD punt return that was called back, or the deep snapper for over shooting the punter, setting up their first TD. You can't throw out a "well he finally did something good in 5 years" and expect that to be construed as a compliment after multiple "choke" posts.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on September 28, 2016, 10:22:42 am
The chokes, as you put it,  were facts not opinions. That's what is wrong with the world today, people only want to give praise but not criticism to players or young kids. Here's your participation trophy 💩
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on September 28, 2016, 10:28:40 am
Quote from: cuckoobird on September 28, 2016, 10:22:42 am
The chokes were facts not opinions. That's what is wrong with the world today, people only want to give praise but not criticism to players or young kids. Here's your participation trophy 💩


Here's what your post is worth.  💩 No, what's wrong is someone sitting on their couch calling out high school or college players, pathetic.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on September 28, 2016, 01:43:14 pm
Oh, I never call out high school players. They aren't recruited like college players and given free scholarships.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Valleysports on September 28, 2016, 02:57:05 pm
Hey cuckoo, rice does bring up a point - I think the play right before that pass hit the goal post, Hunter dropped a perfect TD pass right in his hands.  So many times BA wouldn't have made a memorable mistake, if the receiver would've caught a non memorable perfectly thrown pass the play before.  Happened a bunch.  Anyhow I didn't mean to stir the pot.   ;)     
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bdubyab60 on September 28, 2016, 03:50:21 pm
Henry had like one drop all year and I don't think it was that game but could have been. I was as critical of BA as anyone. Never guestioned his toughness but his ability to close out games. Crap the entire team to close out games.

But from the middle of the season to the end there wasn't a throw or a play BA didn't make.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on September 28, 2016, 04:03:52 pm
It wasn't that game. BA threw it over his head again on the next to last play of the game. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9q4bhT0cSp0
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on September 28, 2016, 06:03:20 pm
Quote from: ricepig on September 28, 2016, 10:28:40 am

Here's what your post is worth.  💩 No, what's wrong is someone sitting on their couch calling out high school or college players, pathetic.
Just one thing about this...I totally think it is wrong to call out high school players. But college players are a different story altogether. And most on here, including you I would bet Rice have said things about college players before, maybe not hog players but at sometime a college player or players. I mean what is next, don't say anything bad about Pro players? Let's be real, BA played well his last season. I can't question that at all. But his play before that was certainly questionable at best. Should he have been the starter...yeah considering what we had. Anyway, like everyone else on here this is just my opinion and it is worth nothing...just like everyone else's on here...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on September 28, 2016, 06:21:10 pm
Quote from: Coach Venny Slocombe on September 28, 2016, 06:03:20 pm
Just one thing about this...I totally think it is wrong to call out high school players. But college players are a different story altogether. And most on here, including you I would bet Rice have said things about college players before, maybe not hog players but at sometime a college player or players. I mean what is next, don't say anything bad about Pro players? Let's be real, BA played well his last season. I can't question that at all. But his play before that was certainly questionable at best. Should he have been the starter...yeah considering what we had. Anyway, like everyone else on here this is just my opinion and it is worth nothing...just like everyone else's on here...

Oh, I understand it's all opinions, even those, some claim as facts, lol. I would say there is a difference between telling your wife, "XYZ" blew that play, and typing it on a message board, Twitter, or any other social media site, especially when most message board sites have rules against bashing players. I don't have any problem criticizing coach's decisions, or at least debating them, but calling out players, I just don't see it.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bdubyab60 on September 28, 2016, 07:08:46 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on September 28, 2016, 04:03:52 pm
It wasn't that game. BA threw it over his head again on the next to last play of the game. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9q4bhT0cSp0
I was thinking so
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on September 28, 2016, 07:41:35 pm
If I'm not mistaken BA is in the pros now and i served my time twice last gear for saying he was playing bad. But none the less, i gave him kudos for the last 5 games
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on September 28, 2016, 07:50:59 pm
Quote from: ricepig on September 28, 2016, 06:21:10 pm
Oh, I understand it's all opinions, even those, some claim as facts, lol. I would say there is a difference between telling your wife, "XYZ" blew that play, and typing it on a message board, Twitter, or any other social media site, especially when most message board sites have rules against bashing players. I don't have any problem criticizing coach's decisions, or at least debating them, but calling out players, I just don't see it.
Yep, I see your point, just disagree with it...lol...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Valleysports on September 28, 2016, 10:00:19 pm
Quote from: ricepig on September 28, 2016, 06:21:10 pm
Oh, I understand it's all opinions, even those, some claim as facts, lol. I would say there is a difference between telling your wife, "XYZ" blew that play, and typing it on a message board, Twitter, or any other social media site, especially when most message board sites have rules against bashing players. I don't have any problem criticizing coach's decisions, or at least debating them, but calling out players, I just don't see it.

Yeah, I have to go with ricepig on this - thinking back to when I was playing college ball.  No one wants the players to play their best more than the players themselves.  If they don't perform in today's environment, they have to hear about crap from message boards, twitter, etc..  Give them a chance to be college kids, despite sports.  Recruit a better player, but I don't see the benefit in bashing singled out players.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: VHSCoach2 on September 29, 2016, 08:42:55 pm
I just saw that Fayetteville is in the running for College Gameday on October 8th when Alabama comes to town.  This is, of course, Arkansas (vs. Alcorn State) and Alabama (vs. Kentucky) take care of business and win.

The other two games in consideration for the October 8th Gameday are Miami vs. Florida State and Tennessee vs. Texas A&M.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on September 29, 2016, 09:19:53 pm
Quote from: VHSCoach2 on September 29, 2016, 08:42:55 pm
I just saw that Fayetteville is in the running for College Gameday on October 8th when Alabama comes to town.  This is, of course, Arkansas (vs. Alcorn State) and Alabama (vs. Kentucky) take care of business and win.

The other two games in consideration for the October 8th Gameday are Miami vs. Florida State and Tennessee vs. Texas A&M.

I'd say the outcomes of Tennessee/Georgia and aTm/USCe are important, too.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on September 29, 2016, 09:21:41 pm
+1. If UT and aTm both win it's more of a marquee game between undefeateds
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: HorseFeathers on October 01, 2016, 11:42:11 am
Theyll go to miami/Florida state
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: VHSCoach2 on October 01, 2016, 12:54:26 pm
They've already been to Tennessee twice in the first five weeks.  If they go to another Tennessee game, it will be the one against Alabama if they are both unbeaten at that point.

If I had to rank where they will likely head of the aforementioned three choices, it would be:

Miami/FSU
Arkansas/Alabama
Tennessee/Texas A&M
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: VHSCoach2 on October 01, 2016, 06:18:26 pm
Well, Florida State just lost to North Carolina. So, take Miami/FSU off the list.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bleudog on October 02, 2016, 01:44:39 pm
http://tamu.247sports.com/Bolt/ESPNs-College-GameDay-announces-Week-6-location-47939641
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Valleysports on October 02, 2016, 02:33:35 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on September 18, 2016, 09:35:54 pm
So where are we?  Notre Dame (gone), TCU (gone), Texas (fail), Oklahoma (done).  This all started with Notre Dame giving a wanna be conference false hope!  Ha ha.  SEC gonna be strong by post season.  AAA

Quote from: Valleysports on September 30, 2016, 02:22:34 pm
Can't believe TCU #21, Texas #22, are still ranked.  But it's catching up - look who's suddenly ranked #14 (with a 2-2 record), Ole Miss.  I hope an SEC West team is still standing after the upcoming conference battles.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bleudog on October 02, 2016, 05:00:31 pm
http://katv.com/sports/hog-central/razorback-fullback-arrested
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on October 02, 2016, 06:40:45 pm
I wonder if he will sit?
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on October 02, 2016, 07:27:25 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on October 02, 2016, 06:40:45 pm
I wonder if he will sit?

He needs to. A bunch of idiots on HV are "excusing" his actions due to "just an MIP" etc. Adults are idiots at times. He could have gotten on the road and killed someone.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: beach bum on October 02, 2016, 07:47:32 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on October 02, 2016, 07:27:25 pm
He needs to. A bunch of idiots on HV are "excusing" his actions due to "just an MIP" etc. Adults are idiots at times. He could have gotten on the road and killed someone.

I agree, you do the crime and then you do the time! Everyone deserves a second chance as we make mistakes as humans, but also that comes with a punishment and a TIGHT leash! I just hope it goes beyond football and he learns a true life lesson from it and puts it behind him.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on October 02, 2016, 09:10:48 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on October 02, 2016, 06:40:45 pm
I wonder if he will sit?
Surely he will...he doesn't attend Pulaski Academy...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: WPWells on October 02, 2016, 10:26:36 pm
He will sit. One of the things I respect most about Bielema is his discipline
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Longfellow on October 03, 2016, 08:01:30 am
At the least, he'll spend the day carrying a mattress during practice
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: WPWells on October 03, 2016, 10:50:11 am
Hayden Johnson is not on the depth chart for Alabama
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on October 04, 2016, 10:49:54 am
According to the ADG, Johnson will play against Alabama but won't start. So in other words he will be on the sidelines for the first offensive play then play the rest of the game. Looks like our discipline is no better than any other teams
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on October 04, 2016, 02:15:35 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on October 04, 2016, 10:49:54 am
According to the ADG, Johnson will play against Alabama but won't start. So in other words he will be on the sidelines for the first offensive play then play the rest of the game. Looks like our discipline is no better than any other teams
As long as we don't turn into a FSU or Miami...that would be bad...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: HorseFeathers on October 04, 2016, 03:59:22 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on October 04, 2016, 10:49:54 am
According to the ADG, Johnson will play against Alabama but won't start. So in other words he will be on the sidelines for the first offensive play then play the rest of the game. Looks like our discipline is no better than any other teams

Suspended for at least 1 qtr
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: beach bum on October 04, 2016, 04:16:36 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on October 04, 2016, 10:49:54 am
According to the ADG, Johnson will play against Alabama but won't start. So in other words he will be on the sidelines for the first offensive play then play the rest of the game. Looks like our discipline is no better than any other teams

Most non partial people are starting to see Coach B is all talk and it gets old. He talks a big game, and criticizes other programs and coaches, but maybe he should practice what he preaches and back up what he says.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: HorseFeathers on October 04, 2016, 04:21:30 pm
Quote from: beach bum on October 04, 2016, 04:16:36 pm
Most non partial people are starting to see Coach B is all talk and it gets old. He talks a big game, and criticizes other programs and coaches, but maybe he should practice what he preaches and back up what he says.

wonder what it's like to lead a negative outlook in everything like 90% of razorback fans do...must really suck
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: beach bum on October 04, 2016, 04:34:35 pm
Quote from: HorseFeathers on October 04, 2016, 04:21:30 pm
wonder what it's like to lead a negative outlook in everything like 90% of razorback fans do...must really suck

Not really, I call it like I see it. I love Mike Anderson as a person. I really hope he does well this season and keeps it going after this year. I never want to see him leave Arkansas. That will be a sad day. Now, if he doesn't get the results this year or next then that is a different story as you have to have the results eventually or its someone else's turn to get the keys to the program. Again, I hope he stays forever. Everybody else around the country too gets annoyed by Coach B. It's all talk and no backing it up. I love MA's personality over "bigger talker Coach B" any day. Win something in the SEC first and then talk. MA suspended those guys and let the courts handle it. I am sure those guys like Beard are on a zero tolerance policy and the one guy was kicked off the team who got in trouble again. Jacorey Williams was an idiot and MA gave him the boot. One mistake is one thing, but you repeat offend and bye bye!
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on October 04, 2016, 07:45:29 pm
Quote from: beach bum on October 04, 2016, 04:34:35 pm
Not really, I call it like I see it. I love Mike Anderson as a person. I really hope he does well this season and keeps it going after this year. I never want to see him leave Arkansas. That will be a sad day. Now, if he doesn't get the results this year or next then that is a different story as you have to have the results eventually or its someone else's turn to get the keys to the program. Again, I hope he stays forever. Everybody else around the country too gets annoyed by Coach B. It's all talk and no backing it up. I love MA's personality over "bigger talker Coach B" any day. Win something in the SEC first and then talk. MA suspended those guys and let the courts handle it. I am sure those guys like Beard are on a zero tolerance policy and the one guy was kicked off the team who got in trouble again. Jacorey Williams was an idiot and MA gave him the boot. One mistake is one thing, but you repeat offend and bye bye!

So, how long do you expect MA to sit Arlando Cook for getting a PI the night before Johnson did?
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Valleysports on October 04, 2016, 09:06:38 pm
So what about this game?  If I predict, not-Hogs, I'll be a Texan always against Hogs, blah, blah, want I?  Haha

Bama defense is better than A&M's. Bama D-line (1st & 2nd, maybe 3rd, team), gonna eat Arkansas OL up.  We know how the second half plays out - Bama Lineman on both sides will have played half as much come 4th qtr..

Hog Fan post game report - Hogs should've, would've, could've - score don't represent how close the game really was.  Bama 45-17.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on October 05, 2016, 05:38:11 am
Quote from: Valleysports on October 04, 2016, 09:06:38 pm
So what about this game?  If I predict, not-Hogs, I'll be a Texan always against Hogs, blah, blah, want I?  Haha

Bama defense is better than A&M's. Bama D-line (1st & 2nd, maybe 3rd, team), gonna eat Arkansas OL up.  We know how the second half plays out - Bama Lineman on both sides will have played half as much come 4th qtr..

Hog Fan post game report - Hogs should've, would've, could've - score don't represent how close the game really was.  Bama 45-17.

I'll take 28pts and the Hogs for however much you want.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: LRRandy on October 05, 2016, 07:56:27 am
A national writer putting it out there

http://collegefootballnews.com/2016/alabama-arkansas-game-preview-prediction-line-tv
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on October 05, 2016, 08:17:03 am
Quote from: ricepig on October 05, 2016, 05:38:11 am
I'll take 28pts and the Hogs for however much you want.
I won't go 28 but I think it's a 20 point deficit
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Valleysports on October 05, 2016, 09:30:39 am
Quote from: ricepig on October 05, 2016, 05:38:11 am
I'll take 28pts and the Hogs for however much you want.

Hold it, hold it - I've found a reason to be a Hog Fan this week!   :D.   People making all kinds of promotional or PR moves.  The one guy in NWA saying he'll give out, what did he say, 1,000 pizza if Hogs win?  Then this morning, when challenged, Bassel popped off that he'd give out 1,000 pizza's, but then changed it to $1000 to NLC (Compassion Center).  Ricepig you could put up a truck or college scholarship.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on October 05, 2016, 10:51:37 am
Quote from: Valleysports on October 05, 2016, 09:30:39 am
Hold it, hold it - I've found a reason to be a Hog Fan this week!   :D.   People making all kinds of promotional or PR moves.  The one guy in NWA saying he'll give out, what did he say, 1,000 pizza if Hogs win?  Then this morning, when challenged, Bassel popped off that he'd give out 1,000 pizza's, but then changed it to $1000 to NLC (Compassion Center).  Ricepig you could put up a truck or college scholarship.

I already give the equivalent of a scholarship, so I'll stick with that.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Valleysports on October 05, 2016, 12:16:54 pm
Quote from: ricepig on October 05, 2016, 10:51:37 am
I already give the equivalent of a scholarship, so I'll stick with that.

How about a Razorback Red GMC Denali Truck, after you write it off?  I predict - your trucks are white - we can repaint for the, Hogs-beat-Bama, give-a-way. 
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on October 05, 2016, 01:10:37 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on October 05, 2016, 12:16:54 pm
How about a Razorback Red GMC Denali Truck, after you write it off?  I predict - your trucks are white - we can repaint for the, Hogs-beat-Bama, give-a-way.

Trucks white, cars/suv's black, haha. I've got to purchase one soon my youngest, I'll have to defer. Don't you know the economy is bad?
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Valleysports on October 05, 2016, 02:54:58 pm
I know about farmers and the economy that's documented in their books...   ::)
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on October 05, 2016, 03:23:40 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on October 05, 2016, 02:54:58 pm
I know about farmers and the economy that's documented in their books...   ::)

Who do you think Donald learned from?? Seriously, I'm glad not doing anything but collecting rent these days. The fellow that has the fancy duck club lost around 3000 acres of rice and soybeans in the floods. My uncle's renter won't stick a combine in his farm on Black River.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Valleysports on October 06, 2016, 09:52:53 am
I know 45 sounds like an overshot for Bama, but I only predicted 41 A&M, and they missed 17 points of opportunities themselves.  My gut says 31'ish, but don't figure they will squander opportunities, like A&M, and will have longer drives.  And their defense is not going to let Arkansas keep the ball like A&M did.  Bama defense is good for a TD or two themselves.  A&M penalties kept some of Arkansas drives alive, including those 7 or 8 goal line attempts everyone was upset about.  Sorry for bringing that up.  Just think Bama is better than A&M.  Bama will have the same time of possession as Arkansas, thus giving them more scoring opportunities.  Their OL should be stronger than A&Ms.  Bama wins in the trenches.  I should go with 38 Bama and save 45 for Ole Miss's score, but since there's no money on it, I'll let it ride.  Am I forgetting something real?  Maybe playing in Fayetteville?  Some starters now have 5 games of experience, instead of only 3?  Why do y'all feel it will be close?

I'm not trying to upset Hog Fan's nor wish the Hogs bad luck, it would thrill me to have the Hogs win the NC for the SEC. 
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Longfellow on October 06, 2016, 11:58:22 am
Quote from: Valleysports on October 06, 2016, 09:52:53 am
I know 45 sounds like an overshot for Bama, but I only predicted 41 A&M, and they missed 17 points of opportunities themselves.  My gut says 31'ish, but don't figure they will squander opportunities, like A&M, and will have longer drives.  And their defense is not going to let Arkansas keep the ball like A&M did.  Bama defense is good for a TD or two themselves.  A&M penalties kept some of Arkansas drives alive, including those 7 or 8 goal line attempts everyone was upset about.  Sorry for bringing that up.  Just think Bama is better than A&M.  Bama will have the same time of possession as Arkansas, thus giving them more scoring opportunities.  Their OL should be stronger than A&Ms.  Bama wins in the trenches.  I should go with 38 Bama and save 45 for Ole Miss's score, but since there's no money on it, I'll let it ride.  Am I forgetting something real?  Maybe playing in Fayetteville?  Some starters now have 5 games of experience, instead of only 3?  Why do y'all feel it will be close?

I'm not trying to upset Hog Fan's nor wish the Hogs bad luck, it would thrill me to have the Hogs win the NC for the SEC.
Blind homerism makes their predictions close. I do actually think BB and Co. keep this game close, at least into the late 3rd quarter. I figure the Tide will pull away by 3td's in the end though
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Valleysports on October 06, 2016, 01:31:03 pm
I heard BB on the radio, today, say that Bama hasn't seen all of Arkansas offense yet.  As if he might have something special up his sleeve for Bama....  Maybe we'll hear "the rest of the story" come Saturday.   :)
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bdubyab60 on October 06, 2016, 10:11:07 pm
We will have to play better than we have for sure to beat them. I expect us to be competitive though. Gonna need a lot of things to go our way for sure.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Valleysports on October 08, 2016, 11:04:57 am
All kidding aside - hope it's a good game and when it's over Hogs & Fans feel like they left it all on the field.   ;)
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bdubyab60 on October 08, 2016, 06:41:36 pm
If we don't do something we are going to get owned
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on October 08, 2016, 06:43:23 pm
Our weak schedule is showing...and we are not on the same planet as Bama...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on October 08, 2016, 06:50:43 pm
That was a great pass...and AA is one tough kid...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on October 08, 2016, 06:53:14 pm
Boy that freakin AA is a tough kid...and that was a great pass...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: WPWells on October 08, 2016, 10:42:53 pm
AA is so tough. Our OL isn't good, our D isn't good, but AA impresses me so much
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Valleysports on October 08, 2016, 11:15:59 pm
Quote from: Fred Bird on September 19, 2016, 11:32:42 am
I see your 0-4 SEC start and will raise you a 4-0 SEC start
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: beach bum on October 08, 2016, 11:21:54 pm
I might be proven wrong but I don't see us beating Ole Miss when they have had 2 weeks to prepare for us. I'd say if we finish 4-4 now in the SEC that would be ok.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: fastdrop on October 09, 2016, 05:58:55 am
I thought Arkansas played ok last night. This year is about the same as any other year. The Hogs have avg. to above avg. talent and can hang with or beat 60% to 80% of the teams in the NCAA on any given night.

4-4 is about what you can expect year in and year out. 5-3 is a very good year for the Hogs. 3-5 a bad year.

I predict another bowl win this year for BB.

Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: fastdrop on October 09, 2016, 06:01:29 am
Quote from: Valleysports on October 06, 2016, 01:31:03 pm
I heard BB on the radio, today, say that Bama hasn't seen all of Arkansas offense yet.  As if he might have something special up his sleeve for Bama....  Maybe we'll hear "the rest of the story" come Saturday.   :)
BB is full of it.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: fastdrop on October 09, 2016, 06:04:23 am
Quote from: ricepig on October 05, 2016, 10:51:37 am
I already give the equivalent of a scholarship, so I'll stick with that.
Like they need it.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: fastdrop on October 09, 2016, 06:06:02 am
Quote from: Coach Venny Slocombe on October 08, 2016, 06:53:14 pm
Boy that freakin AA is a tough kid...and that was a great pass...
AA is a gamer. Can't help but respect him.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on October 09, 2016, 08:42:58 am
We lost by 19 points. I guess that is better than 52.

Our defense.......my gosh it is hot garbage. Poor angles. SLOW. Won't tackle. I am just amazed. Guess those "hype" videos of turning on red lights in Fayetteville and slinging weights with "herb" doesn't make you tough on defense.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: mack on October 09, 2016, 09:12:13 am
It still boils down to recruiting.  Name one starter in our defense who'd start for Alabama.  Our starters would be 2 deep at best.  Don't even get me started on the O-line....

Still, we can have a good season.  We'll see....
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: LRRandy on October 09, 2016, 10:13:47 am
There is an obvious lack of toughness surrounding this team. Much respect for Allen,he is showing toughness, but the reason everyone is so impressed with his grit is because he is getting killed because of a weak offensive line. Isn't Beilema a ground and pound guy? He has his players now, what is the excuse? The defense looks the same as it has in recent years. How about a tackle once in a while. The quarterback is good enough to lead his team to a bowl game. This is another also ran year on the hill.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on October 09, 2016, 10:33:38 am
Quote from: LRRandy on October 09, 2016, 10:13:47 am
There is an obvious lack of toughness surrounding this team. Much respect for Allen,he is showing toughness, but the reason everyone is so impressed with his grit is because he is getting killed because of a weak offensive line. Isn't Beilema a ground and pound guy? He has his players now, what is the excuse? The defense looks the same as it has in recent years. How about a tackle once in a while. The quarterback is good enough to lead his team to a bowl game. This is another also ran year on the hill.

It wasn't expected to be much different, most had it 8-4 on average, which is still possible.The lack of physical play, also know as tackling, by our secondary is embarrassing. Mack is correct, we don't have a player on defense that would start for Bama, so it's plain to see our differences.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: urban legend2 on October 09, 2016, 10:37:33 am
Quote from: ricepig on October 09, 2016, 10:33:38 am
It wasn't expected to be much different, most had it 8-4 on average, which is still possible.The lack of physical play, also know as tackling, by our secondary is embarrassing. Mack is correct, we don't have a player on defense that would start for Bama, so it's plain to see our differences.
And the worse thing about the terrible tackling is the lack of effort. If you get trucked by an offensive player, get trucked but at least put forth the effort while doing it.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bdubyab60 on October 09, 2016, 11:51:31 am
To many missed blocks by the offensive line. I'm not talking getting beat but just a guy standing there as someone runs by.

Our tackling on defense is high school level. Poor angles and then poor effort once the runner is by us. Then seems 4 or 5 times a game maybe more there is someone wide open down the middle of the field.

you cannot give away points to a team like Bama. That's what was frustrating about this game and the A&M game. We are given opportunities and squander them and the other team always seems to capitalize on theirs.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on October 09, 2016, 12:57:06 pm
Quote from: urban legend2 on October 09, 2016, 10:37:33 am
And the worse thing about the terrible tackling is the lack of effort. If you get trucked by an offensive player, get trucked but at least put forth the effort while doing it.

Yep, I agree wholeheartedly.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on October 11, 2016, 05:40:10 pm
This Arkansas team is not good. We are not a top twenty five team right now. Sad part is Bama didn't play well either...scary...

We have left...

Ole Miss - We can very easily lose this game...
@ Auburn - Auburn is about on our level...playing them there may be a huge disadvantage...
Florida - Which Florida team shows...Which Arkansas team shows...
LSU - LSU is better with Orgeron...who is interviewing for a job...they will play hard...
@Miss. State - We win this one...
@ Mizzou - We win this one...

I think we could lose 4 of the next 6 which would be 8-4...but our wins right now are against Texas State, Alcorn State and LATech and TCU...
3 of those 4 are terrible, plain and simple. TCU is down...
So, even if we go 8-4 it is a deceiving record...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: fastdrop on October 11, 2016, 07:15:08 pm
Quote from: Coach Venny Slocombe on October 11, 2016, 05:40:10 pm
This Arkansas team is not good. We are not a top twenty five team right now. Sad part is Bama didn't play well either...scary...

We have left...

Ole Miss - We can very easily lose this game...
@ Auburn - Auburn is about on our level...playing them there may be a huge disadvantage...
Florida - Which Florida team shows...Which Arkansas team shows...
LSU - LSU is better with Orgeron...who is interviewing for a job...they will play hard...
@Miss. State - We win this one...
@ Mizzou - We win this one...

I think we could lose 4 of the next 6 which would be 8-4...but our wins right now are against Texas State, Alcorn State and LATech and TCU...
3 of those 4 are terrible, plain and simple. TCU is down...
So, even if we go 8-4 it is a deceiving record...
Lets see. The hogs are 4-2. If they lose 4 of the next 6 what would their record be? 8-4 Common core math Coach. I am going to use old fashioned math and say 6-6.

If the Hogs lose the next 4 ..... I wouldn't count Missouri or Miss. St as wins. If they get a defense it could still be a good season.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Redwolves8526 on October 13, 2016, 10:13:39 am
I expect a great game this weekend. HUGE game for both teams. Anyone think Arkansas can hold Ole Miss under 40?
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on October 13, 2016, 10:46:31 am
No
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: urban legend2 on October 13, 2016, 12:51:29 pm
Quote from: Redwolves8526 on October 13, 2016, 10:13:39 am
I expect a great game this weekend. HUGE game for both teams. Anyone think Arkansas can hold Ole Miss under 40?
Would be surprised if that happened.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Valleysports on October 13, 2016, 10:13:54 pm
The finish of this game, last year, was absolutely awesome! 
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: LRRandy on October 14, 2016, 08:21:13 am
This is a key game for Bielema. A loss doesn't necessarily doom the season but it severely hurts the narrative of an improving program climbing the ladder in the sec west.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: urban legend2 on October 14, 2016, 10:41:43 pm
Quote from: LRRandy on October 14, 2016, 08:21:13 am
This is a key game for Bielema. A loss doesn't necessarily doom the season but it severely hurts the narrative of an improving program climbing the ladder in the sec west.
Agreed. A loss here and there's the potential for it to spiral, with a trip to a pretty good Auburn team coming up.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on October 15, 2016, 01:18:31 am
Quote from: fastdrop on October 11, 2016, 07:15:08 pm
Lets see. The hogs are 4-2. If they lose 4 of the next 6 what would their record be? 8-4 Common core math Coach. I am going to use old fashioned math and say 6-6.

If the Hogs lose the next 4 ..... I wouldn't count Missouri or Miss. St as wins. If they get a defense it could still be a good season.
Good catch FD...lol...I was thinking one thing and typing another...I predicted 8-4 which is what I was thinking but now think we could easily end up 6-6...thanks for correcting me on that sir...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bdubyab60 on October 15, 2016, 05:48:47 pm
Heck at least we put 30 on em.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on October 15, 2016, 09:56:41 pm
Big win...that was huge. AA impresses me more and more every weekend...maybe he should have started two years ago...lol...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bdubyab60 on October 15, 2016, 10:11:00 pm
Defense made plays when they had too. I'll take a W any time we can get one. Probably should have won this one a little easier. I didn't get to watch it, just listened on the radio. Got to get TD's when we are in the red zone
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: VHSCoach2 on October 15, 2016, 10:14:44 pm
My out-on-a-limb prediction of a 10-2 regular season is still alive.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on October 15, 2016, 10:53:24 pm
I was wrong we can hold them under 40. I totally agree vinney
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: BrianfromCarlisle on October 15, 2016, 10:55:42 pm
Deandre Coley needs to learn to not do that stupid stuff, or sit down. He cost them big time the first time. Almost cost them again
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: WPWells on October 15, 2016, 11:55:31 pm
Or they could not throw flags for someone playing football. That's another solution
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on October 16, 2016, 12:10:33 am
Quote from: cuckoobird on October 13, 2016, 10:46:31 am
No

Wrong as usual.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Valleysports on October 16, 2016, 06:56:21 am
I'm here to eat Crow (dish it)!   ::)  Great game plan by O & D coordinators, great execution OL & DL, as well as all skills.  Congratulations!

What to make of it?  I think this game would have gone the same way 4 weeks ago, because Arkansas hasn't been that far from this kind of performance all along.  Not taking anything away from Arkansas but what was confirmed, for me, is how dominating A&M (with Garret)  and Bama's Defensive Line's are.  Ricepig, I take back what I said about Arkansas not being a legit Top 25.  Heck swap Arkansas with Ole Miss in the rankings.   
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on October 16, 2016, 08:51:33 am
Quote from: Valleysports on October 16, 2016, 06:56:21 am
I'm here to eat Crow (dish it)!   ::)  Great game plan by O & D coordinators, great execution OL & DL, as well as all skills.  Congratulations!

What to make of it?  I think this game would have gone the same way 4 weeks ago, because Arkansas hasn't been that far from this kind of performance all along.  Not taking anything away from Arkansas but what was confirmed, for me, is how dominating A&M (with Garret)  and Bama's Defensive Line's are.  Ricepig, I take back what I said about Arkansas not being a legit Top 25.  Heck swap Arkansas with Ole Miss in the rankings.

Bama's line is way better than aTm's, next Saturday will prove that, I think they could beat up the Brown's o-line, haha. It will be an interesting game with two running QB's, and I think that Hurts is a better passer than Knight.

Good win for the Hogs, but every week in the SECw is a tough one, on to Aubbie.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on October 16, 2016, 09:20:30 am
Arkansas isn't as slow as I thought. Alabama also made tenner look like sloths.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bdubyab60 on October 16, 2016, 09:41:31 am
TEnner is one dimensional. Dobbs  isn't going to beat you with his arm most times. No one stops the run better than bama and it was beat down.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Valleysports on October 16, 2016, 01:26:18 pm
Well A&M, without Garret playing 100%, won't be the same next week.  But I think A&M's DC (LSU transfer) will shore up a lot of holes Tenn targeted. He said he would anyway. A&M's NG (Mack) is hoss. Bama's secondary is certainly better than A&M's.  I'd like to see Bama stay #1 right through the National Championship.  But we need A&M to get us more money.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: WPWells on October 16, 2016, 02:13:52 pm
I'm pulling for A&M to end the Bama reign of terror
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: LRRandy on October 16, 2016, 02:36:20 pm
Quote from: Fred Bird on October 16, 2016, 02:13:52 pm
I'm pulling for A&M to end the Bama reign of terror
i hope you are right.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on October 16, 2016, 02:51:02 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on October 16, 2016, 01:26:18 pm
Well A&M, without Garret playing 100%, won't be the same next week.  But I think A&M's DC (LSU transfer) will shore up a lot of holes Tenn targeted. He said he would anyway. A&M's NG (Mack) is hoss. Bama's secondary is certainly better than A&M's.  I'd like to see Bama stay #1 right through the National Championship.  But we need A&M to get us more money.
It's week 8 in the SEC, every team has guys dinged up, not being at 100%. Unfortunately, Bama puts a beat down on them.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: LRRandy on October 16, 2016, 03:22:24 pm
Quote from: ricepig on October 16, 2016, 02:51:02 pm
It's week 8 in the SEC, every team has guys dinged up, not being at 100%. Unfortunately, Bama puts a beat down on them
thats a myth propagated by the bow down to Bama sec crowd. No doubt Bama is a tough team but their "beat down" of Arkansas didn't seem to bother the Hogs against Ole Miss. Yes many teams have dinged up players but to say Bama is cutting through the league like a hot knife through butter and leaving a trail of battered bodies in its wake is fear speak. I recall a third string QB trucking a Bama safety and linebacker and knocking them out of a game. Bama is good. But they are beatable.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on October 16, 2016, 03:37:54 pm
Quote from: LRRandy on October 16, 2016, 03:22:24 pm
thats a myth propagated by the bow down to Bama sec crowd. No doubt Bama is a tough team but their "beat down" of Arkansas didn't seem to bother the Hogs against Ole Miss. Yes many teams have dinged up players but to say Bama is cutting through the league like a hot knife through butter and leaving a trail of battered bodies in its wake is fear speak. I recall a third string QB trucking a Bama safety and linebacker and knocking them out of a game. Bama is good. But they are beatable.

Not by aTm, and we are discussing this game and this year, try to stay in the present.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: LRRandy on October 16, 2016, 04:34:52 pm
Quote from: ricepig on October 16, 2016, 03:37:54 pm
Not by aTm, and we are discussing this game and this year, try to stay in the present.
oh that Bama fear is long held. Can't beat em join em kind of thing.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on October 16, 2016, 04:54:49 pm
Quote from: LRRandy on October 16, 2016, 04:34:52 pm
oh that Bama fear is long held. Can't beat em join em kind of thing.

Well, it might be by some, but don't include me in your ignorance.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: LRRandy on October 16, 2016, 06:17:23 pm
Quote from: ricepig on October 16, 2016, 04:54:49 pm
Well, it might be by some, but don't include me in your ignorance.
youre the one shaking in his boots over mighty Bama beat downs and making light of it like " it's ok, they're our bully". My ignorance only goes so far as to be confused by fans of one team rooting for a team that for a decade puts a "beat down" on them.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: beach bum on October 16, 2016, 06:54:52 pm
Quote from: ricepig on October 16, 2016, 04:54:49 pm
Well, it might be by some, but don't include me in your ignorance.

It's true... When Bama wins you scream SEC from the rooftops. Why does everyone ride the coat tails of Bama. I heard it all last January when Bama won the title from every Arkansas fan I knew. They kept saying how great the SEC was by Bama winning. Isn't Bama great by Bama winning?
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Longfellow on October 16, 2016, 07:00:35 pm
Every year, all I hear is everyone hating on Alabama. But when postseason rolls around it's, "look at bama, ain't the SEC great?" It's every Arkansas fan I know. Makes no sense to cheer for a team because they're in your conference and especially when they beat you year after year
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: LRRandy on October 16, 2016, 07:06:09 pm
Quote from: beach bum on October 16, 2016, 06:54:52 pm
It's true... When Bama wins you scream SEC from the rooftops. Why does everyone ride the coat tails of Bama. I heard it all last January when Bama won the title from every Arkansas fan I knew. They kept saying how great the SEC was by Bama winning. Isn't Bama great by Bama winning?
+1
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: LRRandy on October 16, 2016, 07:08:34 pm
Quote from: Longfellow on October 16, 2016, 07:00:35 pm
Every year, all I hear is everyone hating on Alabama. But when postseason rolls around it's, "look at bama, ain't the SEC great?" It's every Arkansas fan I know. Makes no sense to cheer for a team because they're in your conference and especially when they beat you year after year
+1 that line of thinking has confused me since I moved here. It's not just Hog fans either. I would cheer for anyone to beat Xichigan if they were playing for a national championship.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on October 16, 2016, 07:45:10 pm
Quote from: LRRandy on October 16, 2016, 06:17:23 pm
youre the one shaking in his boots over mighty Bama beat downs and making light of it like " it's ok, they're our bully". My ignorance only goes so far as to be confused by fans of one team rooting for a team that for a decade puts a "beat down" on them.

You're ignorant, lol. I said Bama would put a beat down on aTm, I've made no mention of them playing Arkansas, or what they've done in other games.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on October 16, 2016, 07:53:28 pm
Quote from: LRRandy on October 16, 2016, 07:08:34 pm
+1 that line of thinking has confused me since I moved here. It's not just Hog fans either. I would cheer for anyone to beat Xichigan if they were playing for a national championship.

So, you weren't for Michigan St over Bama last year?
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on October 16, 2016, 07:56:38 pm
Quote from: beach bum on October 16, 2016, 06:54:52 pm
It's true... When Bama wins you scream SEC from the rooftops. Why does everyone ride the coat tails of Bama. I heard it all last January when Bama won the title from every Arkansas fan I knew. They kept saying how great the SEC was by Bama winning. Isn't Bama great by Bama winning?

Find the posts, go ahead, you've said I have. I guess since you don't know me, then you can't.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on October 16, 2016, 08:03:55 pm
🎣
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: LRRandy on October 16, 2016, 08:19:05 pm
Quote from: ricepig on October 16, 2016, 07:53:28 pm
So, you weren't for Michigan St over Bama last year?
in those situations I hope a sink hole opens up and both teams fall in. I can't stand seeing Sparty,Wisconsin, Penn St., or Xichigan win. I sure don't cheer for them.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on October 16, 2016, 08:30:35 pm
Quote from: LRRandy on October 16, 2016, 08:19:05 pm
in those situations I hope a sink hole opens up and both teams fall in. I can't stand seeing Sparty,Wisconsin, Penn St., or Xichigan win. I sure don't cheer for them.

Well, since we know that wasn't going to happen, you're saying you didn't care who won?
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: LRRandy on October 16, 2016, 09:57:17 pm
Quote from: ricepig on October 16, 2016, 08:30:35 pm
Well, since we know that wasn't going to happen, you're saying you didn't care who won?
i love college football. In cases like that particular game I watch hoping for a good game. I gotta tell you I chuckled watching Sparty being taken behind the wood shed. I just hated that it was Bama doing it knowing how tOSU handled them the year before.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on October 17, 2016, 07:58:50 am
I have always been a Bama fan,except when they play Arkansas. I always liked the Arkansas connection with Bear Bryant...for me that's where it started.

I respect a coach like Nick Saban who is never satisfied and always hungry. I wish we had that mentality at Arkansas. Maybe someday we will.

If Arkansas can't win a NC then I am going to support any SEC that is in the Championship.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on October 17, 2016, 10:07:36 am
Quote from: LRRandy on October 16, 2016, 09:57:17 pm
i love college football. In cases like that particular game I watch hoping for a good game. I gotta tell you I chuckled watching Sparty being taken behind the wood shed. I just hated that it was Bama doing it knowing how tOSU handled them the year before.

I love college football, too. I usually watch a game where I like one team over another, for various reasons, haha. I won't watch a Purdue/Minnesota game at 11 because I don't identity with either team, several other games like that. I'm not a Prairie dog offense fan, so I us pull for a team that doesn't employ it, or often.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on October 17, 2016, 11:00:30 am
How crazy would it be if we win 11 games?
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Valleysports on October 17, 2016, 01:23:26 pm
Quote from: Longfellow on October 16, 2016, 07:00:35 pm
Every year, all I hear is everyone hating on Alabama. But when postseason rolls around it's, "look at bama, ain't the SEC great?" It's every Arkansas fan I know. Makes no sense to cheer for a team because they're in your conference and especially when they beat you year after year

Well sure it makes sense!  Are you serious?  Siblings grow up fighting and hating each other, until someone outside the family try's to fight one of em.  When an SEC Team plays a team from another conference, those teams are representing the strength of their conferences.  If Bama looses to an outside team, after beating Arkansas, it reflects that Arkansas can't win in a conference that's not even the best.  And besides that, we split the money from all those bowl games.   
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Proud Buckaroo on October 17, 2016, 01:27:09 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on October 17, 2016, 11:00:30 am
How crazy would it be if we win 11 games?

It can be very possible.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on October 17, 2016, 01:41:55 pm
Quote from: Proud Buckaroo on October 17, 2016, 01:27:09 pm
It would be a miracle.. Because we have four games left. Plus one bowl game. lol.

5 games left

Auburn
Florida
LSU
Miss St
Mizzou
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Proud Buckaroo on October 17, 2016, 01:42:47 pm
Quote from: ricepig on October 17, 2016, 01:41:55 pm
5 games left

Auburn
Florida
LSU
Miss St
Mizzou

I forgot about Miss St. LOL.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: VHSCoach2 on October 17, 2016, 02:34:46 pm
Quote from: ricepig on October 17, 2016, 01:41:55 pm
5 games left

Auburn
Florida
LSU
Miss St
Mizzou

All five are definitely winnable games.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: urban legend2 on October 17, 2016, 04:52:45 pm
Auburn will be a battle that I think a lot of people don't realize. They've lost just two games as well...to the No. 4 and 6 teams in the country. With Florida, we're not sure what we'll get out of them, but their defense will keep them in it. LSU is getting better on offense because they're finally opening the playbook, so that'll be interesting. Those last two should be gimmes, though, but Miss. State is always tough in Starkville against the Hogs. So we'll see.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on October 17, 2016, 05:37:54 pm
Quote from: urban legend2 on October 17, 2016, 04:52:45 pm
Auburn will be a battle that I think a lot of people don't realize. They've lost just two games as well...to the No. 4 and 6 teams in the country. With Florida, we're not sure what we'll get out of them, but their defense will keep them in it. LSU is getting better on offense because they're finally opening the playbook, so that'll be interesting. Those last two should be gimmes, though, but Miss. State is always tough in Starkville against the Hogs. So we'll see.

It's the SEC, every game is a war for every team not named Alabama, and they find themselves in a few, lol. We could run the table or lose the rest of them, I'm still at 8-4. I don't know which ones are wins or losses, that's what makes it fun.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Valleysports on October 17, 2016, 10:10:53 pm
I'm out - lol - can't take anyone's word on Auburn's Defense after being led to believe Ole Miss had a great defense.  I was 5-1 and I'd just be guessing from here on.  Chad Kelly didn't impress me.  Unlike the other QB's, he had it in his mind to run when he shouldn't been running.  Just didn't seem to make the best decisions.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bleudog on October 17, 2016, 10:12:49 pm
http://www.masseyratings.com/team.php?t=316&s=286577
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Proud Buckaroo on October 18, 2016, 05:09:57 am
Quote from: Valleysports on October 17, 2016, 10:10:53 pm
I'm out - lol - can't take anyone's word on Auburn's Defense after being led to believe Ole Miss had a great defense.  I was 5-1 and I'd just be guessing from here on.  Chad Kelly didn't impress me.  Unlike the other QB's, he had it in his mind to run when he shouldn't been running.  Just didn't seem to make the best decisions.

I loved it when Santos lite him up. He not only hurt him from the hit. But I think he hurt his ego. Serves him right for running with the ball so loosely in one hand.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bdubyab60 on October 18, 2016, 06:38:24 am
Kelly had it tucked away and even turned a bit. Santos just got his head and shoulder though him to knock the ball loose. It's a lot different when the kids are the same age as you, if you know what I mean.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Proud Buckaroo on October 18, 2016, 06:54:24 am
Quote from: bdubyab60 on October 18, 2016, 06:38:24 am
Kelly had it tucked away and even turned a bit. Santos just got his head and shoulder though him to knock the ball loose. It's a lot different when the kids are the same age as you, if you know what I mean.

Are you referring to the high school deal when they were on a bye week?
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bdubyab60 on October 18, 2016, 08:59:33 am
Quote from: Proud Buckaroo on October 18, 2016, 06:54:24 am
Are you referring to the high school deal when they were on a bye week?
Bingo
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Proud Buckaroo on October 19, 2016, 04:04:10 pm
https://mobile.twitter.com/BillyQuach/status/788216309695733765/video/1 (https://mobile.twitter.com/BillyQuach/status/788216309695733765/video/1)

😂😂
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: beach bum on October 19, 2016, 04:16:18 pm
Quote from: ricepig on October 17, 2016, 05:37:54 pm
It's the SEC, every game is a war for every team not named Alabama

Playing Kentucky, Vanderbilt, Missouri, South Carolina, Georgia, Florida and Mississippi State isn't exactly a war.... We play 3 of those teams. Throw in our games against Alcorn State, Texas State, and La Tech and that isn't exactly a juggernaut of a schedule. Those are 6 out of 12 of our games you have zero excuse to lose.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on October 19, 2016, 04:26:47 pm
Quote from: beach bum on October 19, 2016, 04:16:18 pm
Playing Kentucky, Vanderbilt, Missouri, South Carolina, Georgia, Florida and Mississippi State isn't exactly a war.... We play 3 of those teams. Throw in our games against Alcorn State, Texas State, and La Tech and that isn't exactly a juggernaut of a schedule. Those are 6 out of 12 of our games you have zero excuse to lose.

Well, those who rank SOS disagree, I'll go with their thoughts over yours. Florida is ranked #15, so there's that.

http://www.espn.com/college-football/statistics/teamratings

Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: LRRandy on October 19, 2016, 07:21:47 pm
Quote from: ricepig on October 19, 2016, 04:26:47 pm
Well, those who rank SOS disagree, I'll go with their thoughts over yours. Florida is ranked #15, so there's that.

http://www.espn.com/college-football/statistics/teamratings
hmmm. The same ranking of sos has the Hogs ranked as the #33 team in the nation.  You surprise me. Go ahead and think that little of the Hogs and go with their thoughts.  I think they are better than that. Shame on you.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on October 19, 2016, 07:33:15 pm
Quote from: LRRandy on October 19, 2016, 07:21:47 pm
hmmm. The same ranking of sos has the Hogs ranked as the #33 team in the nation.  You surprise me. Go ahead and think that little of the Hogs and go with their thoughts.  I think they are better than that. Shame on you.

I didn't make either number, I just posted it. There's others, though they have the SOS a little higher. As far as where any team outside the top 4 or so, it's all subjective.


http://www.fbschedules.com/2016/05/2016-college-football-strength-schedule-win-loss-method/

Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: HorseFeathers on October 19, 2016, 08:39:28 pm
Quote from: beach bum on October 19, 2016, 04:16:18 pm
Playing Kentucky, Vanderbilt, Missouri, South Carolina, Georgia, Florida and Mississippi State isn't exactly a war.... We play 3 of those teams. Throw in our games against Alcorn State, Texas State, and La Tech and that isn't exactly a juggernaut of a schedule. Those are 6 out of 12 of our games you have zero excuse to lose.

Yep...0 excuse to lose to #15 Florida...smh
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: beach bum on October 19, 2016, 09:04:51 pm
Florida ranked #15 is why college is barely worth watching compared to the NFL. Florida is terrible.... and they are ranked 15
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on October 19, 2016, 09:05:54 pm
Quote from: beach bum on October 19, 2016, 09:04:51 pm
Florida ranked #15 is why college is barely worth watching compared to the NFL. Florida is terrible.... and they are ranked 15

Yeah, Cleveland is a good reason to watch the NFL, lol.....
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: HorseFeathers on October 19, 2016, 09:07:03 pm
Quote from: ricepig on October 19, 2016, 09:05:54 pm
Yeah, Cleveland is a good reason to watch the NFL, lol.....

The AFC South
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Proud Buckaroo on October 19, 2016, 09:38:11 pm
Quote from: beach bum on October 19, 2016, 09:04:51 pm
Florida ranked #15 is why college is barely worth watching compared to the NFL. Florida is terrible.... and they are ranked 15


So you're telling me.... That watching Carolina go 1-5. Fitzpatrick go from throwing 31 TDs getting a raise, and now being the worst QB in the League... The Eagles choking... Wait. That happens every year..

Sam Bradford being 5-0.. And actually looking like a threat... Cowboys doing amazing without Romo.

Cleveland Browns being 0-6 with Hue.. Whose best record at Raiders was 8-8.


All that is better than College??
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: beach bum on October 19, 2016, 09:49:37 pm
Quote from: Proud Buckaroo on October 19, 2016, 09:38:11 pm

So you're telling me.... That watching Carolina go 1-5. Fitzpatrick go from throwing 31 TDs getting a raise, and now being the worst QB in the League... The Eagles choking... Wait. That happens every year..

Sam Bradford being 5-0.. And actually looking like a threat... Cowboys doing amazing without Romo.

Cleveland Browns being 0-6 with Hue.. Whose best record at Raiders was 8-8.


All that is better than College??

Yes, you just made my point. In college when a 3-7 team is playing an 8-2 team there is no need to watch. We know what happens. A 3-7 can actually beat an 8-2 team in the NFL so they are all worth watching. The Dolphins are awful and made the Steelers look so bad yesterday so there is an example. 9/15 games were decided by one score or less and that is the norm every week so yes its a better product. How exciting when the #6 team is a 19 point underdog this weekend  in Texas A&M. That's just sad. If it is really that big of a gap then why even play the season? Let's just have Clemson, Washington, Michigan, and Ohio State try to beat Alabama if the 2nd best team in the SEC is a 19 point underdog?
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: HorseFeathers on October 19, 2016, 10:28:53 pm
Quote from: beach bum on October 19, 2016, 09:49:37 pm
Yes, you just made my point. In college when a 3-7 team is playing an 8-2 team there is no need to watch. We know what happens. A 3-7 can actually beat an 8-2 team in the NFL so they are all worth watching. The Dolphins are awful and made the Steelers look so bad yesterday so there is an example. 9/15 games were decided by one score or less and that is the norm every week so yes its a better product. How exciting when the #6 team is a 19 point underdog this weekend  in Texas A&M. That's just sad. If it is really that big of a gap then why even play the season? Let's just have Clemson, Washington, Michigan, and Ohio State try to beat Alabama if the 2nd best team in the SEC is a 19 point underdog?

If we're gonna cherry pick games here ..I bet that 45-16 beat down the bills put on the 49ers was exciting....or the cardinals 28-3 blowout of the jets had you on the edge of your seat....
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Proud Buckaroo on October 19, 2016, 11:00:25 pm
Quote from: beach bum on October 19, 2016, 09:49:37 pm
Yes, you just made my point. In college when a 3-7 team is playing an 8-2 team there is no need to watch. We know what happens. A 3-7 can actually beat an 8-2 team in the NFL so they are all worth watching. The Dolphins are awful and made the Steelers look so bad yesterday so there is an example. 9/15 games were decided by one score or less and that is the norm every week so yes its a better product. How exciting when the #6 team is a 19 point underdog this weekend  in Texas A&M. That's just sad. If it is really that big of a gap then why even play the season? Let's just have Clemson, Washington, Michigan, and Ohio State try to beat Alabama if the 2nd best team in the SEC is a 19 point underdog?

If all that I mentioned is better than college. You must have a really boring life. Lol. NFL has been lack-luster of anything but excitement this year.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Longfellow on October 19, 2016, 11:17:53 pm
Clemson/Louisville, FSU/Ole Miss, ND/Texas, Arkansas/Ole Miss, FSU/Miami, any Tennessee game pre-Bama. All those have been better than anything I've watched of the NFL this year. Except maybe New England/Arizona week 1
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Proud Buckaroo on October 19, 2016, 11:28:18 pm
You forgot to mention the Tennessee game against Georgia..
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: LRRandy on October 20, 2016, 09:18:09 am
Quote from: ricepig on October 19, 2016, 07:33:15 pm
I didn't make either number, I just posted it. There's others, though they have the SOS a little higher. As far as where any team outside the top 4 or so, it's all subjective.


http://www.fbschedules.com/2016/05/2016-college-football-strength-schedule-win-loss-method/
i understand you didn't make up the numbers. My surprise was your statement that you agree with the thoughts of the people that rank UoA #33. I'm sorry you don't think that they are better than that. I think they are.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on October 20, 2016, 10:17:02 am
Quote from: LRRandy on October 20, 2016, 09:18:09 am
i understand you didn't make up the numbers. My surprise was your statement that you agree with the thoughts of the people that rank UoA #33. I'm sorry you don't think that they are better than that. I think they are.

I'm sorry your reading comprehension is so bad, but I'm sure you're trying!!! FPI says we won't win another game this year, doesn't make it right or wrong, it's just analytics. Vegas says we are a 10pt dog to Auburn based on the analytics, so there you go.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: LRRandy on October 20, 2016, 11:09:21 am
Quote from: ricepig on October 20, 2016, 10:17:02 am
I'm sorry your reading comprehension is so bad, but I'm sure you're trying!!! FPI says we won't win another game this year, doesn't make it right or wrong, it's just analytics. Vegas says we are a 10pt dog to Auburn based on the analytics, so there you go.
you're right. I'm struggling to comprehend why you agree with the thoughts of a site that ranks the Hogs #33. I know they are not a top 10 team. But I thought you were a big enough fan to think more highly of the team than to agree with that site. I guess your wanting the short drive to Memphis for a bowl game. That's just selfish.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on October 20, 2016, 11:30:26 am
Quote from: LRRandy on October 20, 2016, 11:09:21 am
you're right. I'm struggling to comprehend why you agree with the thoughts of a site that ranks the Hogs #33. I know they are not a top 10 team. But I thought you were a big enough fan to think more highly of the team than to agree with that site. I guess your wanting the short drive to Memphis for a bowl game. That's just selfish.

Your troll attempts are weak, either step them up, or go away. As far as rankings, really outside of the top 4 for the CFP, and even they are, are subjective for teams that don't play each other.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: LRRandy on October 20, 2016, 11:49:54 am
Quote from: ricepig on October 20, 2016, 11:30:26 am
Your troll attempts are weak, either step them up, or go away. As far as rankings, really outside of the top 4 for the CFP, and even they are, are subjective for teams that don't play each other.
you are as bad as the politicians in the debate last night. Deflect away from the statement you made, which showed that you don't support the hogs like the rest of razorback nation. All your trickery pointing out subjective rankings and irrelevance outside the top 4. Those statements are in fact true. What's also true is you avoiding the fact that you agreed with a site that ranks the hogs #33 when they are clearly better than that. Shame on you. You need to trade in your hog card.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on October 20, 2016, 12:00:24 pm
Quote from: LRRandy on October 20, 2016, 11:49:54 am
you are as bad as the politicians in the debate last night. Deflect away from the statement you made, which showed that you don't support the hogs like the rest of razorback nation. All your trickery pointing out subjective rankings and irrelevance outside the top 4. Those statements are in fact true. What's also true is you avoiding the fact that you agreed with a site that ranks the hogs #33 when they are clearly better than that. Shame on you. You need to trade in your hog card.

Lol, nice try tat boy, I'm not a bandwagon fan, I support my alma mater if they are ranked #1, or #128. But I appreciate your concern over my feelings.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on October 20, 2016, 12:54:59 pm
Well you don't have to worry about that
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on October 20, 2016, 01:19:08 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on October 20, 2016, 12:54:59 pm
Well you don't have to worry about that
His concern over my feelings, yeah, I agree.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on October 20, 2016, 02:13:01 pm
No, being ranked #1but I agree, you're a fan no matter what
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on October 20, 2016, 02:20:34 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on October 20, 2016, 02:13:01 pm
No, being ranked #1but I agree, you're a fan no matter what

What??? Color me surprised that you would say something like that........
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Valleysports on October 20, 2016, 02:53:42 pm
haha
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on October 20, 2016, 03:01:05 pm
So, Valley, I haven't read your take on this game, it's?????? I think it will be a tough one, we're playing week #8 in a row, so fatigue is a factor for us. But of course, the homer in me sees a win, 28-24.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: WPWells on October 20, 2016, 03:35:38 pm
I still think the Hogs could do as well as 10-2 or as poorly as 7-5
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Proud Buckaroo on October 20, 2016, 07:05:34 pm
Best case scenario is 10-2. 11-2 with a bowl win.

Worst case scenario is 8-4. 9-4 with a bowl win.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Valleysports on October 21, 2016, 12:01:34 pm
Quote from: ricepig on October 20, 2016, 03:01:05 pm
So, Valley, I haven't read your take on this game, it's?????? I think it will be a tough one, we're playing week #8 in a row, so fatigue is a factor for us. But of course, the homer in me sees a win, 28-24.

Well I learned last week that I don't need to predict games, when I haven't watched the opponent enough to know their talent's for myself.  I know about as much about Auburn as I didn't Ole Miss.  Before conference I predicted Auburn, with a good defense, would work their offense problems out by just about the time they play Arkansas.  Of course the game is won in the trenches - on paper Auburn has a lot different defense than Ole Miss.  A standout DE and a strong front 7.  So is this going to look more like the A&M game?  They look like they're strong against the run, good linebackers.  Apparently the secondary is more dependable than the weak spots in A&M's secondary.  Auburn's defense might be a problem for Arkansas.  Will AA be under pressure?

Arkansas won't score on Auburn like they did Ole Miss, question is can Auburn score on Arkansas?  What does Auburn have on offense?  Will Gus have something crafty going on? Pretty good line.... 

Can I make my prediction after the first quarter? 
Auburn's D-Line vs Arkansas O-Line!

Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on October 21, 2016, 03:33:16 pm
Just throwing this out there...does anyone think that Ole Miss was and has been overrated all season?
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on October 21, 2016, 03:50:10 pm
Quote from: Coach Venny Slocombe on October 21, 2016, 03:33:16 pm
Just throwing this out there...does anyone think that Ole Miss was and has been overrated all season?

Uh huh, they have a nice team, but are poorly coached. I understand the thoughts that they must have been good based on their 20+pt leads over FSU and Bama, but they have no defense and haven't beaten anyone. I figured after we beat them that they would announce some self-imposed penalties such as a bowl ban to head off the NCAA change, I guess they will after LSU runs all over them.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on October 21, 2016, 04:13:07 pm
Quote from: ricepig on October 21, 2016, 03:50:10 pm
Uh huh, they have a nice team, but are poorly coached. I understand the thoughts that they must have been good based on their 20+pt leads over FSU and Bama, but they have no defense and haven't beaten anyone. I figured after we beat them that they would announce some self-imposed penalties such as a bowl ban to head off the NCAA change, I guess they will after LSU runs all over them.
Yeah, I wasn't impressed with them. FSU is not very good either. The SEC as a whole is down this year. I think A&M and Bama are the cream of the crop. Florida I have to say is overrated also. We will see I guess...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: WPWells on October 21, 2016, 04:43:44 pm
I think "overrated" in the SEC still translates to a pretty dang good football team.

Also, I thought we dominated the game and could have easily won by a couple of touchdowns.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on October 21, 2016, 04:50:48 pm
Quote from: Fred Bird on October 21, 2016, 04:43:44 pm
I think "overrated" in the SEC still translates to a pretty dang good football team.

Also, I thought we dominated the game and could have easily won by a couple of touchdowns.
In some cases, but not all. Ole Miss, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Tenner, Aubbie all would lose to teams like Bama (of course), Michigan, tOSU, Washington, Louisville, Clemson and A&M...I still think Baylor is overrated also, Big 12 is a joke...The rest of the top twenty five would be a struggle for the SEC teams I mentioned also...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: WPWells on October 21, 2016, 04:52:46 pm
Quote from: Coach Venny Slocombe on October 21, 2016, 04:50:48 pm
In some cases, but not all. Ole Miss, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Tenner, Aubbie all would lose to teams like Bama (of course), Michigan, tOSU, Washington, Louisville, Clemson and A&M...I still think Baylor is overrated also, Big 12 is a joke...The rest of the top twenty five would be a struggle for the SEC teams I mentioned also...

I think you can separate Ole Miss, Arkansas, Tennessee, and Auburn from the others you listed and also throw LSU in there. I don't think Florida and Georgia are that good.

I watch a lot of college football, and I think Arkansas may be about the 12th best team in the country.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on October 21, 2016, 04:53:59 pm
Quote from: Fred Bird on October 21, 2016, 04:52:46 pm
I think you can separate Ole Miss, Arkansas, Tennessee, and Auburn from the others you listed and also throw LSU in there. I don't think Florida and Georgia are that good.

I watch a lot of college football, and I think Arkansas may be about the 12th best team in the country.

Obviously we are #33!
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on October 21, 2016, 05:48:56 pm
I don't think we are 33rd...but we are not 12th either...25th may be about right. Aubbie is a big game. We Auburn we may turn the proverbial corner... ;D
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: LRRandy on October 21, 2016, 05:56:16 pm
Quote from: ricepig on October 21, 2016, 04:53:59 pm
Obviously we are #33!
you finally admitted it.  :o
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on October 21, 2016, 06:17:14 pm
Quote from: Coach Venny Slocombe on October 21, 2016, 05:48:56 pm
I don't think we are 33rd...but we are not 12th either...25th may be about right. Aubbie is a big game. We Auburn we may turn the proverbial corner... ;D

I think #11-#40 could beat each other depending on the match up.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: LRRandy on October 21, 2016, 06:24:22 pm
Quote from: Coach Venny Slocombe on October 21, 2016, 05:48:56 pm
I don't think we are 33rd...but we are not 12th either...25th may be about right. Aubbie is a big game. We Auburn we may turn the proverbial corner... ;D
last week showed me a lot. They bounced back after a loss  against a good team. Didn't suffer a Bama hangover. Won a game that they could have easily lost. A win this week and turned the corner is exactly right. Fun to watch.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Valleysports on October 21, 2016, 09:40:15 pm
What corner are we talking about?  What if Arkansas looses to Auburn, then wins out?  9-3 would be a great season, wouldn't it? 
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: WPWells on October 21, 2016, 10:03:51 pm
I'm thinking 10-2 and the Sugar Bowl
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: LRRandy on October 21, 2016, 10:41:22 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on October 21, 2016, 09:40:15 pm
What corner are we talking about?  What if Arkansas looses to Auburn, then wins out?  9-3 would be a great season, wouldn't it?
the corner of mediocrity. 9-3 would still be possible but not likely. A win would show upward movement. A loss while not lethal would show an inability to correct some of the issues that have kept them from playing in a more meaningful bowl game against a higher ranked opponent.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Valleysports on October 22, 2016, 07:38:05 am
Quote from: Fred Bird on October 21, 2016, 10:03:51 pm
I'm thinking 10-2 and the Sugar Bowl

You predicted wins over A&M, Bama, and rank the Hogs at #12. 
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: WPWells on October 22, 2016, 07:50:06 am
What can I say? I'm a blind homer
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Valleysports on October 22, 2016, 08:03:19 am
Quote from: LRRandy on October 21, 2016, 10:41:22 pm
the corner of mediocrity. 9-3 would still be possible but not likely. A win would show upward movement. A loss while not lethal would show an inability to correct some of the issues that have kept them from playing in a more meaningful bowl game against a higher ranked opponent.

Outside of Razorback Nation, what football fans see (if we're talking about show) is a 2-2 team.  TCU, Ole Miss - A&M, Bama.  TCU & Ole Miss being mediocre teams.  I see what you're talking about - Arkansas would move in behind Bama n A&M, a cut above Ole Miss, Auburn, LSU, TCU's.  So this game is a battle to see if it's Auburn or Arkansas who turns the corner of mediocrity?

Before the season started, I would type AAA at the end of my post in prediction threads.  That stood for Alabama, A&M, Auburn 1,2,3.  Since Arkansas starts with an A, I'll be happy to let y'all trade out with Auburn.   :) 
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on October 22, 2016, 08:44:31 am
Quote from: Valleysports on October 22, 2016, 08:03:19 am
Outside of Razorback Nation, what football fans see (if we're talking about show) is a 2-2 team.  TCU, Ole Miss - A&M, Bama.  TCU & Ole Miss being mediocre teams.  I see what you're talking about - Arkansas would move in behind Bama n A&M, a cut above Ole Miss, Auburn, LSU, TCU's.  So this game is a battle to see if it's Auburn or Arkansas who turns the corner of mediocrity?

Before the season started, I would type AAA at the end of my post in prediction threads.  That stood for Alabama, A&M, Auburn 1,2,3.  Since Arkansas starts with an A, I'll be happy to let y'all trade out with Auburn.   :) 
That pretty much sums it up Valley. LA Tech, Texas State and Alcorn State are horrible teams. The bright side, at least this year we didn't lose to one of them. We beat a mediocre TCU team and an overrated Ole Miss team. We are not even close to being a top 10 team and in my opinion we are not a top twenty team and maybe not a top twenty five team. Right now we are getting the benefit of the doubt because we play in the SEC, mainly the SEC West. Are we headed in the right direction? I honestly don't know. I don't see us being much better than last year, but everyone but Bama and TAMU are down this year in the SEC. That's why I think the Auburn game is a corner turner...Auburn has great talent, I think Gus is a good coach...and they are starting to put it all together also. The team that wins today may streak to a good season, the loser may have a coach on the hot seat, especially in Auburn...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: LRRandy on October 22, 2016, 09:54:42 am
That's why I think this game is a fair barometer of "are we headed in the right direction. A win, I think, means they definately are. A loss doesn't mean necessarily that they are not but it will take wins against the other tougher teams on the schedule (Florida,LSU) to make the case that they are in fact making progress and moving forward. A loss doesn't exactly give you confidence that they can go into those tougher games and expect to win. This team still has some weaknesses ( team speed, Oline play, stopping the run ) that they have been able to overcome in some games against mediocre teams due to their strengths ( QB play, WR play). The build is happening. The speed at which it is happening will be determined by the three key games left on the schedule.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Valleysports on October 22, 2016, 10:16:03 am
Quote from: Coach Venny Slocombe on October 22, 2016, 08:44:31 am
That pretty much sums it up Valley. LA Tech, Texas State and Alcorn State are horrible teams. The bright side, at least this year we didn't lose to one of them. We beat a mediocre TCU team and an overrated Ole Miss team. We are not even close to being a top 10 team and in my opinion we are not a top twenty team and maybe not a top twenty five team. Right now we are getting the benefit of the doubt because we play in the SEC, mainly the SEC West. Are we headed in the right direction? I honestly don't know. I don't see us being much better than last year, but everyone but Bama and TAMU are down this year in the SEC. That's why I think the Auburn game is a corner turner...Auburn has great talent, I think Gus is a good coach...and they are starting to put it all together also. The team that wins today may streak to a good season, the loser may have a coach on the hot seat, especially in Auburn...

Exactly my thoughts, with the exception that I think last year's team was better than this years team.  Honestly a lot better.  But the foundation is there and a good run would help with everything from momentum to recruiting. I know Hog Fans don't want to wait another year.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: WPWells on October 22, 2016, 05:40:24 pm
Never mind. We're probably around #50 or so
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: WPWells on October 22, 2016, 05:40:40 pm
This is pathetic. Austin Allen looks lost.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: WPWells on October 22, 2016, 05:41:01 pm
Our defense is even worse
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: mtindian42 on October 22, 2016, 05:47:07 pm
Wow! The hogs still have a chance cause auburn plays fast. Y'all just need to get something going.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on October 22, 2016, 05:50:01 pm
Quote from: Fred Bird on October 22, 2016, 05:40:24 pm
Never mind. We're probably around #50 or so
lol...9-3 maybe? The coaching staff was not prepared for this game...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: mtindian42 on October 22, 2016, 06:08:06 pm
Ty storie is warming up. Could this be the start of a legend? Allen looks to be hurt bad. Maybe he can shake it off.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on October 22, 2016, 06:15:02 pm
Another CBB mistake...He had some chances to get Ty Storey some playing time and didn't...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bdubyab60 on October 22, 2016, 07:23:28 pm
I need some whiskey
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Pokey03 on October 22, 2016, 08:00:41 pm
Atrocious performance from the Hogs.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: mack on October 22, 2016, 08:01:45 pm
Worst in a while......
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Pokey03 on October 22, 2016, 08:13:06 pm
Auburn scores again, 500yds rushing tonight. Is Auburn really this good,or are the Hogs really this bad?
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bdubyab60 on October 22, 2016, 08:16:07 pm
Can't even move the ball on their subs. 500 plus on the ground is embarrassing.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: BrianfromCarlisle on October 22, 2016, 08:17:15 pm
Oh WOW.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: WPWells on October 22, 2016, 08:23:52 pm
Quote from: Scooter2121 on October 22, 2016, 07:59:15 pm
Moron

I owned up to being wrong. When you're wrong you disappear. Now run along and go play in your sandbox.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: HorseFeathers on October 22, 2016, 08:25:34 pm
Kinda funny....they sit at 5-2 nobody posts much on here....they have something to complain about and posters come back to the thread
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: BrianfromCarlisle on October 22, 2016, 08:31:27 pm
You just have to hand it to Auburn.  They just had a monster game. I believe that game is an anomaly. Bye is at perfect time. Regroup. Finish strong.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Trojanbird on October 22, 2016, 09:59:07 pm
Amazing to me as so many have called it "high school"offense beats/spanks our butt! O line not as good as advertised, pass blocking sucks and run blocking as well.  Defense, as normal we are a half step slow and get run over by the opponent running back.  Bellima should be on the hot seat!  His players/recruits!  Got to give it to Allen though, tough kid, he would be an all American with a sec line Infront of him!
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: WPWells on October 22, 2016, 10:02:40 pm
You can't even spell his name. That invalidates the rest of your post.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: HorseFeathers on October 22, 2016, 10:02:59 pm
I figure some one is going to lose their job after this one....
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Proud Buckaroo on October 22, 2016, 10:15:44 pm
Quote from: HorseFeathers on October 22, 2016, 10:02:59 pm
I figure some one is going to lose their job after this one....

Robb smith. That's who needs to go. His first year.... He had one of his best defenses. Guess what? Those were left over players from a very good defense. After that... Lack luster.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: WPWells on October 22, 2016, 10:39:45 pm
I vote Kurt Anderson
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Longfellow on October 22, 2016, 11:09:11 pm
I vote to bring the Gus Bus back to the hill
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Longfellow on October 22, 2016, 11:12:28 pm
I'm walking out of McDonald's and I just heard a guy tell his wife that we'd have won tonight if Allen had a decent offensive coordinator lol
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Proud Buckaroo on October 22, 2016, 11:13:59 pm
Quote from: Longfellow on October 22, 2016, 11:12:28 pm
I'm walking out of McDonald's and I just heard a guy tell his wife that we'd have won tonight if Allen had a decent offensive coordinator lol

So... This lose is allen's fault.....

Yeah. Okay. That's one reason I hate being an Arkansas fan because of the fan base that acts like that.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: War Eagle on October 22, 2016, 11:53:21 pm
Auburn is much better than people have given them credit for.  The offense was handled horrendously in the Clemson and A&M games, but the defense held their own.  The D line is better than it has been in a LOOOOONG time and the defense overall might be the best since Tuberville was there.  Turning the playcalling over to Lashlee was the best decision Malzahn could have made this year.  Now he can focus on being a head coach.  If Auburn's offense continues to improve, look out.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: nastynice on October 23, 2016, 06:45:49 am
Fred, a close relative of Storey told me he is graduating in May already. Is this true?
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: WPWells on October 23, 2016, 08:31:44 am
This is his second year of college. I can't really see how that would work
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: HorseFeathers on October 23, 2016, 09:10:24 am
Did he have any college hours going in...and he enrolled a semester early didn't he?
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: WPWells on October 23, 2016, 09:39:03 am
He enrolled one semester early...I'm just confused as to how this would make sense
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: WPWells on October 23, 2016, 09:39:59 am
All I could think of would be if he wanted to do a graduate transfer
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: nastynice on October 23, 2016, 09:43:35 am
Talked with his grandfather for an hour last week and that's what he said. He may have gotten confused. He also said Ty was gonna pull a Russell Wilson.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on October 23, 2016, 09:45:03 am
Quote from: Fred Bird on October 22, 2016, 10:39:45 pm
I vote Kurt Anderson

Kurt Anderson needs to go. His performance as an offensive line coach has been garbage. He was touted after his hire as a "players coach". When I hear that......Don't want it. He is nothing more than a "homie" for the players...that's it.

"Body by Herb" needs to go.

Defensive line coach needs to go.

Robb Smith possibly needs to go.

You beat the #12 team in the nation last week....then get pistol whipped the next week. That's garbage.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on October 23, 2016, 10:05:09 am
I love it, just "fire everybody", haha. The OL problems come from recruiting, and having to play Skipper, Kirkland, and even Ragnow when they were freshman. Unless you are a 5* OT, nobody needs to start in the SEC as a freshman OL. As far as Smith, to me the jury is out, I haven't been happy since day 1 with the play, but again, we don't have the skill level of our opponents. We are slow at LB across the board, and the d-line has been a major disappointment this year.

Now, to the season, I predicted an 8-4 year, still possible, but we need to win at home to make sure we get there, or above. We played like a team that had played 8 consecutive weeks, not that we would have won had we had an open date before it. Guess what, next year there is one SEC team in the league that play 10 consecutive weeks, yep, you're right, it's Arkansas.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Scooter2121 on October 23, 2016, 10:08:40 am
Quote from: Fred Bird on October 22, 2016, 08:23:52 pm
I owned up to being wrong. When you're wrong you disappear. Now run along and go play in your sandbox.
I don't live on FF like you do..Your boy friend didn't do so well when he got to play last night.Lets hear again from you how great of a QB he is and how great he's going to be.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bdubyab60 on October 23, 2016, 10:28:54 am
Quote from: ricepig on October 23, 2016, 10:05:09 am
I love it, just "fire everybody", haha. The OL problems come from recruiting, and having to play Skipper, Kirkland, and even Ragnow when they were freshman. Unless you are a 5* OT, nobody needs to start in the SEC as a freshman OL. As far as Smith, to me the jury is out, I haven't been happy since day 1 with the play, but again, we don't have the skill level of our opponents. We are slow at LB across the board, and the d-line has been a major disappointment this year.

Now, to the season, I predicted an 8-4 year, still possible, but we need to win at home to make sure we get there, or above. We played like a team that had played 8 consecutive weeks, not that we would have won had we had an open date before it. Guess what, next year there is one SEC team in the league that play 10 consecutive weeks, yep, you're right, it's Arkansas.
I think Smith may be in trouble if we don't start showing some kind of improvement. There really hasn't been much improvement since he's been here. I agre we are slow at LB but that doesn't excuse poor angles and gap discipline. That's in how they are being coached to read plays and so on.

The OL looks like they don't even know who to block. I mean pick someone and out a hat on em
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: WPWells on October 23, 2016, 10:40:39 am
Quote from: Scooter2121 on October 23, 2016, 10:08:40 am
I don't live on FF like you do..Your boy friend didn't do so well when he got to play last night.Lets hear again from you how great of a QB he is and how great he's going to be.

I assume you're talking about Storey, and if that's the case then your "didn't do so hot" means he threw two toss sweeps. Now again, get your head out of your rear. Go back to third grade where people have similar intelligence as you. Maybe soon they'll promote you to fourth grade. You're pathetic.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: WPWells on October 23, 2016, 10:42:10 am
I don't care about recruiting on the OL. I do care about the extremely poor technique and lack of improvement we're showing
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on October 23, 2016, 12:07:00 pm
Quote from: Fred Bird on October 23, 2016, 10:42:10 am
I don't care about recruiting on the OL. I do care about the extremely poor technique and lack of improvement we're showing

I guess you weren't one of those "praising" the improvement in last week's game? Recruiting and depth have a lot to do with the "poor technique". I have no idea if Anderson is responsible or just people unable to execute it, but I don't see him being shown the door.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: WPWells on October 23, 2016, 12:40:13 pm
I'm one of the most optimistic people about the Hogs on this board. I think from time to time I'm allowed to critique things I see wrong
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: fbisgreat on October 23, 2016, 12:47:27 pm
Quote from: nastynice on October 23, 2016, 06:45:49 am
Fred, a close relative of Storey told me he is graduating in May already. Is this true?
Storey did have college hours in high school and left early.And has been in summer school for 2 years.He will graduate in December of 2017 is what i was told by a close relative.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on October 23, 2016, 12:58:15 pm
Quote from: Fred Bird on October 23, 2016, 12:40:13 pm
I'm one of the most optimistic people about the Hogs on this board. I think from time to time I'm allowed to critique things I see wrong

Well, Skipper is Skipper, about the same as last year, only on the other side of the ball. To me, the problem is the middle three, with Ragnow out of position. Our guards aren't very good, which goes back to recruiting, put Ragnow back at guard and Rogers at center.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on October 23, 2016, 01:02:40 pm
If Storey goes he goes. He has been hurt by several things...

1. Playing basically zero competition in high school...
2. Not getting any chances from CBB when UA was either up alot or down alot...
3. Being pumped up as the next great thing and the truth be told he was more like a 2 star rather than a 4 star...

We can all spin this however we want. The Offensive line, the defense the QB whatever...
The 3 good teams we played beat our tails...
We beat three high school teams, a down TCU team, a way overrated Ole Miss team as we found out last night.
Arkansas is not a very good football team, and the SEC is down.
CBB is to blame. Now, with that being said he will not get the axe. Someone else will first, but bottom line is he is the leader, the boss and the coach. The responsibility lies at his feet.
Face it, the Offensive line was much better prepared with Pittman...no question. That loss hurt us badly.
If it were me, and it certainly isn't, CBB get's one more year...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on October 23, 2016, 01:13:35 pm
Well, 5 games left in the season, so the jury is still out on the final results. As far as Pittman, it's his recruits that are whiffing on the blocks, technique or not. He's having major problems at Georgia with his offensive line, their fans wanted him fired after losing to Vandy. Now, I think Bret wanted him to stay, but he didn't.

Bielema is here for two more years minimum, unless he leaves on his own, which I don't see.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on October 23, 2016, 01:21:42 pm
Quote from: ricepig on October 23, 2016, 01:13:35 pm
Well, 5 games left in the season, so the jury is still out on the final results. As far as Pittman, it's his recruits that are whiffing on the blocks, technique or not. He's having major problems at Georgia with his offensive line, their fans wanted him fired after losing to Vandy. Now, I think Bret wanted him to stay, but he didn't.

Bielema is here for two more years minimum, unless he leaves on his own, which I don't see.
Yep, Florida is a descent team and so is LSU. MSU, and Mizzou are not very good and then we play yet another mid level bowl game. These last 5 games will not determine if we are a good team or not.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: DerekOxford on October 23, 2016, 02:22:58 pm
Quote from: ricepig on October 23, 2016, 01:13:35 pm
Well, 5 games left in the season, so the jury is still out on the final results. As far as Pittman, it's his recruits that are whiffing on the blocks, technique or not. He's having major problems at Georgia with his offensive line, their fans wanted him fired after losing to Vandy. Now, I think Bret wanted him to stay, but he didn't.

Bielema is here for two more years minimum, unless he leaves on his own, which I don't see.

Only four games, unless you're including a bowl game?
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on October 23, 2016, 02:26:25 pm
Quote from: DerekOxford on October 23, 2016, 02:22:58 pm
Only four games, unless you're including a bowl game?

Yes, do you not think there is one more win in this team?
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: DerekOxford on October 23, 2016, 02:30:33 pm
Quote from: ricepig on October 23, 2016, 02:26:25 pm
Yes, do you not think there is one more win in this team?

Oh I do, I just wanted to clarify.

Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on October 23, 2016, 07:39:20 pm
Quote from: ricepig on October 23, 2016, 10:05:09 am
I love it, just "fire everybody", haha. The OL problems come from recruiting, and having to play Skipper, Kirkland, and even Ragnow when they were freshman. Unless you are a 5* OT, nobody needs to start in the SEC as a freshman OL. As far as Smith, to me the jury is out, I haven't been happy since day 1 with the play, but again, we don't have the skill level of our opponents. We are slow at LB across the board, and the d-line has been a major disappointment this year.

Now, to the season, I predicted an 8-4 year, still possible, but we need to win at home to make sure we get there, or above. We played like a team that had played 8 consecutive weeks, not that we would have won had we had an open date before it. Guess what, next year there is one SEC team in the league that play 10 consecutive weeks, yep, you're right, it's Arkansas.

I don't care what anyone says. Herb needs to go. His "training" isn't getting it done. Our guys are fit. It still look like pee wee kids compared to the big boys.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on October 23, 2016, 07:44:39 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on October 23, 2016, 07:39:20 pm
I don't care what anyone says. Herb needs to go. His "training" isn't getting it done. Our guys are fit. It still look like pee wee kids compared to the big boys.

Well, I doubt you'd find many who agree with you.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: beach bum on October 23, 2016, 07:59:01 pm
Quote from: ricepig on October 23, 2016, 07:44:39 pm
Well, I doubt you'd find many who agree with you.

I agree with him, add Anderson in with the list of coaches who like to hear their own voice a little too much.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on October 23, 2016, 08:19:38 pm
Quote from: beach bum on October 23, 2016, 07:59:01 pm
I agree with him, add Anderson in with the list of coaches who like to hear their own voice a little too much.

Imagine that......
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on October 23, 2016, 08:31:47 pm
Quote from: ricepig on October 23, 2016, 07:44:39 pm
Well, I doubt you'd find many who agree with you.

Maybe fellow sunshine pumpers. If you think herb is getting it done...then you're probably ok with auburn still running down our throats at 831 on a Sunday.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on October 23, 2016, 08:40:06 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on October 23, 2016, 08:31:47 pm
Maybe fellow sunshine pumpers. If you think herb is getting it done...then you're probably ok with auburn still running down our throats at 831 on a Sunday.

Herb gets them in shape, he isn't going to make a 3* into a 5*, but you knew that, or should. So, is he getting them to slow, or too weak, I'm sure your infinite wisdom will tell us what we need, lol.....
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on October 23, 2016, 08:47:39 pm
It all comes down to recruiting but our size in not developed for the sec. we look like termites compared to the big boys.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on October 23, 2016, 08:50:34 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on October 23, 2016, 08:47:39 pm
It all comes down to recruiting but our size in not developed for the sec. we look like termites compared to the big boys.

Seriously, most complain we are too big, lol.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on October 23, 2016, 09:08:02 pm
Difference in big. And flabby haha

"When the lights come on, the freaks come out!"

Just not on game day.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: YC on October 23, 2016, 09:59:47 pm
Quote from: nastynice on October 23, 2016, 09:43:35 am
Talked with his grandfather for an hour last week and that's what he said. He may have gotten confused. He also said Ty was gonna pull a Russell Wilson.

Something is seriously wrong with Ty and I think I know what it is. He threw the ball better when he was a soph in high school with a torn ACL than he does now. I think someone has been trying to change his delivery and has the kid all screwed up. I could be wrong (but I'm not) I think it was Enos (I'm not a bit high on that guy). For all that is holy DO NOT put that kid under center more than you have to. He is a natural for working out of the shotgun. Austin Allen has proved he is the starter and should be. He has earned it. I have a tremendous amount of respect for that kid. Any kid that can do what he has done working behind that offensive line has to be fearless.

I am about to be roasted for what I'm going to say now but that all right (I have been before) I've got big shoulders and can handle it. I'm not the only one who is or has been saying it and those that are know more and are more involved in football than I. When Petrino was fired and Bielema was hired Ty should have de-committed and reopened his recruitment (but he didn't because he wanted to be a Razorback). Bielema and Chaney was not a good fit and it was just a matter of time until that situation was to come unraveled. There was no way Bielema was going to let Chaney handle the offense the way Chaney wanted. When Chaney was fired and replaced by Enos Ty should have not only walked away but should have run as fast as he could (but he didn't because he wanted to be a Razorback).

They are crucifying the kid over on the Hogville board but that's ok because only about 5% of the people that post on that board have any kind of a clue about football. One has posted that Ty is not a college quarterback at any level. Another has stated he is not a gamer. Now, any who know Ty or have seen him play know that a gamer is one thing he most certainly is. Some are saying he won't be there next year and I for one (for his sake) hope he's not.   
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on October 23, 2016, 10:31:03 pm
He may have been a gamer in 3a Arkansas, but rest assured it's a whole different animal in the SEC WEST. He looked scared to death out there Saturday.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Longfellow on October 23, 2016, 11:16:23 pm
I'm right there with you. I think he should've opened his recruitment back up. Especially because Louisville offered him. I would've loved for him to follow Bobby to the Ville
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: WPWells on October 23, 2016, 11:40:27 pm
And why would anyone ever play for Bobby Petrino?
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: nastynice on October 24, 2016, 05:36:03 am
Quote from: IofthaTiger on October 23, 2016, 09:59:47 pm
Something is seriously wrong with Ty and I think I know what it is. He threw the ball better when he was a soph in high school with a torn ACL than he does now. I think someone has been trying to change his delivery and has the kid all screwed up. I could be wrong (but I'm not) I think it was Enos (I'm not a bit high on that guy). For all that is holy DO NOT put that kid under center more than you have to. He is a natural for working out of the shotgun. Austin Allen has proved he is the starter and should be. He has earned it. I have a tremendous amount of respect for that kid. Any kid that can do what he has done working behind that offensive line has to be fearless.

I am about to be roasted for what I'm going to say now but that all right (I have been before) I've got big shoulders and can handle it. I'm not the only one who is or has been saying it and those that are know more and are more involved in football than I. When Petrino was fired and Bielema was hired Ty should have de-committed and reopened his recruitment (but he didn't because he wanted to be a Razorback). Bielema and Chaney was not a good fit and it was just a matter of time until that situation was to come unraveled. There was no way Bielema was going to let Chaney handle the offense the way Chaney wanted. When Chaney was fired and replaced by Enos Ty should have not only walked away but should have run as fast as he could (but he didn't because he wanted to be a Razorback).

They are crucifying the kid over on the Hogville board but that's ok because only about 5% of the people that post on that board have any kind of a clue about football. One has posted that Ty is not a college quarterback at any level. Another has stated he is not a gamer. Now, any who know Ty or have seen him play know that a gamer is one thing he most certainly is. Some are saying he won't be there next year and I for one (for his sake) hope he's not.
Agree 100%. His grandpa also said he's lost 15#'s and it shows. He's too thin. Some Hog fans need to realize that a kid isn't a traitor just because they go play somewhere else. He needs to break and run at first chance. Put himself first. Apparently he has a plan, because he's been working his butt off so he can graduate early. The announcers Sat said that Storey was the backup but Kelley was the future and that the coaches were excited about it.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: nastynice on October 24, 2016, 05:39:19 am
Quote from: Fred Bird on October 23, 2016, 11:40:27 pm
And why would anyone ever play for Bobby Petrino?
I'm assuming you're being sarcastic?  Why wouldn't a QB want to play for BP?
The man can't ride a bike but he can coach! No arguing that.

I know he's a jerk and hard to be around but he wins. And wins fast. Doesn't take him 5 years to turn things around.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on October 24, 2016, 07:16:11 am
Quote from: IofthaTiger on October 23, 2016, 09:59:47 pm
Something is seriously wrong with Ty and I think I know what it is. He threw the ball better when he was a soph in high school with a torn ACL than he does now. I think someone has been trying to change his delivery and has the kid all screwed up. I could be wrong (but I'm not) I think it was Enos (I'm not a bit high on that guy). For all that is holy DO NOT put that kid under center more than you have to. He is a natural for working out of the shotgun. Austin Allen has proved he is the starter and should be. He has earned it. I have a tremendous amount of respect for that kid. Any kid that can do what he has done working behind that offensive line has to be fearless.

I am about to be roasted for what I'm going to say now but that all right (I have been before) I've got big shoulders and can handle it. I'm not the only one who is or has been saying it and those that are know more and are more involved in football than I. When Petrino was fired and Bielema was hired Ty should have de-committed and reopened his recruitment (but he didn't because he wanted to be a Razorback). Bielema and Chaney was not a good fit and it was just a matter of time until that situation was to come unraveled. There was no way Bielema was going to let Chaney handle the offense the way Chaney wanted. When Chaney was fired and replaced by Enos Ty should have not only walked away but should have run as fast as he could (but he didn't because he wanted to be a Razorback).

They are crucifying the kid over on the Hogville board but that's ok because only about 5% of the people that post on that board have any kind of a clue about football. One has posted that Ty is not a college quarterback at any level. Another has stated he is not a gamer. Now, any who know Ty or have seen him play know that a gamer is one thing he most certainly is. Some are saying he won't be there next year and I for one (for his sake) hope he's not.

If he can't work under center, then he needs to leave and find him an offense he can function in, because he needs to be able to run Enos' offense. Ty's not fast/quick enough to run the zone read, so it will have to be somewhere like Cal or Okie St. I don't think anyone will begrudge him for leaving, as far as HV, I thought the backup QB was the favorite player on the team?
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: LRRandy on October 24, 2016, 07:47:40 am
Quote from: Fred Bird on October 23, 2016, 11:40:27 pm
And why would anyone ever play for Bobby Petrino?
you look at the top 25 much?
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on October 24, 2016, 08:04:04 am
I'm not sure if anyone remembers but our last qb looked scared to death until the last 5 games of his career.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bdubyab60 on October 24, 2016, 08:06:30 am
Storey would be getting just as much playing time at Louisville as he is here. Last time I checked they have Heisman candidate at QB leading the nation in TD's.

All you need to do is watch the sack he took against Auburn to know what is wrong with him, I think it was around the 7 or 8 yard line, it was almost Sanchez style. As far as throwing he had a couple of opportunities to make some throws and they were ugly. Not stepping in to the throw and basically shot putting the throw. Im pretty sure Enos hasn't shown him how to throw the ball like that.

I don't think anyone has much confidence that he could get this team points if Allen goes down but who knows the next imte out he could turn it around. Hes had limited chances and our lack of running game and pass protection doesn't really lead to being to successful at the QB position right now.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Valleysports on October 24, 2016, 11:25:37 am
Quote from: AirWarren on October 23, 2016, 10:31:03 pm
He may have been a gamer in 3a Arkansas, but rest assured it's a whole different animal in the SEC WEST. He looked scared to death out there Saturday.

Can you blame him?  I was scared to death, sitting in my living room.  Arkansas had just pulled the best QB in the SEC, to keep him alive.  Story was thrown out there for fresh, 2nd team, pass rushers to T-off on.  Are y'all really making this thread about your 2nd string QB?  Saturday was the fastest 1st Qtr and slowest 4th qtr.'s I ever seen.  Thread Title 2016 outlook!
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on October 24, 2016, 03:04:21 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on October 24, 2016, 11:25:37 am
Can you blame him?  I was scared to death, sitting in my living room.  Arkansas had just pulled the best QB in the SEC, to keep him alive.  Story was thrown out there for fresh, 2nd team, pass rushers to T-off on.  Are y'all really making this thread about your 2nd string QB?  Saturday was the fastest 1st Qtr and slowest 4th qtr.'s I ever seen.  Thread Title 2016 outlook!
lol...now that's funny I don't care who you are. Ty's problem is the system he is in. He does not fit this system, plus CBB has never gave him any quality playing time. He needs to transfer and transfer fast. Bit I do think playing in the 3A did hurt him quite a bit.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: fastdrop on October 24, 2016, 04:58:09 pm
Quote from: bdubyab60 on October 24, 2016, 08:06:30 am
Storey would be getting just as much playing time at Louisville as he is here. Last time I checked they have Heisman candidate at QB leading the nation in TD's.

All you need to do is watch the sack he took against Auburn to know what is wrong with him, I think it was around the 7 or 8 yard line, it was almost Sanchez style. As far as throwing he had a couple of opportunities to make some throws and they were ugly. Not stepping in to the throw and basically shot putting the throw. Im pretty sure Enos hasn't shown him how to throw the ball like that.

I don't think anyone has much confidence that he could get this team points if Allen goes down but who knows the next imte out he could turn it around. Hes had limited chances and our lack of running game and pass protection doesn't really lead to being to successful at the QB position right now.
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/--PhqH2uK67Y/U52JlPEB6nI/AAAAAAAAJak/rBuq-d4DMcI/s1600/smiley-clapping.png) My hats off to you for watching that game past the first quarter. I was laughing my tail off but even I gave it up by half.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bleudog on October 24, 2016, 05:16:39 pm
Quote from: fastdrop on October 24, 2016, 04:58:09 pm
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/--PhqH2uK67Y/U52JlPEB6nI/AAAAAAAAJak/rBuq-d4DMcI/s1600/smiley-clapping.png) My hats off to you for watching that game past the first quarter. I was laughing my tail off but even I gave it up by half.

I kept checking in to see if the O/U got busted.  Auburn ended up taking care of that by themselves.  :o
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: fastdrop on October 24, 2016, 05:31:29 pm
I almost felt bad for the Hog fans. Went from beating Mighty Ole Miss to being blown out by itsy bitty Auburn.

Nutt has not left the building.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bdubyab60 on October 24, 2016, 06:35:28 pm
Yeah I'm a glutton for punishment I guess. I did have the sense to delete the dvr. I also starting drinking which made me not care as much. It was bad though. Go NAVY
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on October 24, 2016, 06:37:00 pm
Quote from: bdubyab60 on October 24, 2016, 06:35:28 pm
Yeah I'm a glutton for punishment I guess. I did have the sense to delete the dvr. I also starting drinking which made me not care as much. It was bad though. Go NAVY

Pretty sure FD was a Red Pup plan last weekend, since they didn't play, lol.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on October 24, 2016, 08:02:12 pm
I am just wondering what the off season has in store. We will lose Dan Enos for sure. I actually like what he has brought to the table. If our Oline was any good...who knows...

We better get some Olinemen in fr sure...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on October 24, 2016, 08:36:52 pm
Quote from: Coach Venny Slocombe on October 24, 2016, 08:02:12 pm
I am just wondering what the off season has in store. We will lose Dan Enos for sure. I actually like what he has brought to the table. If our Oline was any good...who knows...

We better get some Olinemen in fr sure...

It's Arkansas football. It's a stepping stone program. Not a destination program. 
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on October 24, 2016, 08:39:51 pm
Quote from: Coach Venny Slocombe on October 24, 2016, 08:02:12 pm
I am just wondering what the off season has in store. We will lose Dan Enos for sure. I actually like what he has brought to the table. If our Oline was any good...who knows...

We better get some Olinemen in fr sure...

Where do you think Enos will go as head coach?
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on October 24, 2016, 08:42:34 pm
Quote from: ricepig on October 24, 2016, 08:39:51 pm
Where do you think Enos will go as head coach?
I don't know rice, but I think he will get some offers. Do you think he will? There is gonna be some dice tumble at the end of the season for sure. LSU is open already and Fresno State came open over the weekend. Not saying he gets either just someone will leave for those jobs opening up other jobs...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on October 24, 2016, 08:51:31 pm
Quote from: Coach Venny Slocombe on October 24, 2016, 08:42:34 pm
I don't know rice, but I think he will get some offers. Do you think he will? There is gonna be some dice tumble at the end of the season for sure. LSU is open already and Fresno State came open over the weekend. Not saying he gets either just someone will leave for those jobs opening up other jobs...

Well, he isn't going to LSU, not a big enough name for them. He isn't a west coast guy, so no to Fresno St. I don't think he'll get an offer that interests him, he might be interested in Purdue, being a Big 10 guy, if they offer. 
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: WPWells on October 24, 2016, 08:58:41 pm
Since he was willing to leave a head coaching gig to become our OC, one would imagine he'd only leave that position for a major college head coaching job
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on October 24, 2016, 09:03:14 pm
Quote from: Fred Bird on October 24, 2016, 08:58:41 pm
Since he was willing to leave a head coaching gig to become our OC, one would imagine he'd only leave that position for a major college head coaching job

Well, he wasn't getting the support from the administration at CMU, and we have now doubled his salary from there, but I could see him going to Purdue. Now, is Purdue even remotely interested, who knows??
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: WPWells on October 24, 2016, 10:33:41 pm
Quote from: ricepig on October 24, 2016, 09:03:14 pm
Well, he wasn't getting the support from the administration at CMU, and we have now doubled his salary from there, but I could see him going to Purdue. Now, is Purdue even remotely interested, who knows??

Purdue would certainly fit my description as a major college head coaching job. He would have the chance to play in the Little 10
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bdubyab60 on October 24, 2016, 11:10:02 pm
Quote from: ricepig on October 24, 2016, 06:37:00 pm
Pretty sure FD was a Red Pup plan last weekend, since they didn't play, lol.
I guess not watching is an option lol.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bdubyab60 on October 24, 2016, 11:21:47 pm
I think Enos is here at least one more year but who knows.

I'm hoping after this bye week we show some fire and some kind of improvement. I think this butt kicking we just took has a lot of folks frustrated. I understand we were probably ready for some rest. But a lot of what happened in that game has been happening all year with no real signs of improvement. Then you throw in what seems like a lack of effort, guys jogging down the field, guys catching blocks instead of taking on blockers and things like that are effort not talent.

I'll keep watching, cussing and rooting this team on cause I want em to win. So hopefully this team will take on the attitude of our QB and show some toughness
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on October 25, 2016, 09:36:06 am
Quote from: ricepig on October 24, 2016, 08:51:31 pm
Well, he isn't going to LSU, not a big enough name for them. He isn't a west coast guy, so no to Fresno St. I don't think he'll get an offer that interests him, he might be interested in Purdue, being a Big 10 guy, if they offer. 
No, certainly not LSU. But when the dominoes fall somebody, maybe several are going to look at him.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: fastdrop on October 25, 2016, 09:57:17 am
Quote from: bdubyab60 on October 24, 2016, 11:10:02 pm
I guess not watching is an option lol.
It is an option. Took my rent a grand kids to the Zoo then Incredible Pizza. 2 year old, 3rd grader, and a 4th grader. I bet I was as whooped as the Razorback offensive line.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on October 25, 2016, 10:21:26 am
Quote from: fastdrop on October 25, 2016, 09:57:17 am
It is an option. Took my rent a grand kids to the Zoo then Incredible Pizza. 2 year old, 3rd grader, and a 4th grader. I bet I was as whooped as the Razorback offensive line.

No doubt, as old as you are!
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bdubyab60 on October 25, 2016, 10:41:47 am
Quote from: fastdrop on October 25, 2016, 09:57:17 am
It is an option. Took my rent a grand kids to the Zoo then Incredible Pizza. 2 year old, 3rd grader, and a 4th grader. I bet I was as whooped as the Razorback offensive line.
Probably more lol
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: fastdrop on October 25, 2016, 12:45:10 pm
Quote from: ricepig on October 25, 2016, 10:21:26 am
No doubt, as old as you are!
I played Lazer tag and barely beat the 3 grade young man. Getting old is fun.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: fastdrop on October 25, 2016, 12:45:53 pm
Quote from: bdubyab60 on October 25, 2016, 10:41:47 am
Probably more lol
yep, whipper snatchers showed no mercy.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on October 25, 2016, 12:53:44 pm
Quote from: fastdrop on October 25, 2016, 12:45:10 pm
I played Lazer tag and barely beat the 3 grade young man. Getting old is fun.

Yeah, it's fun killing them before they even know what happened, but they grow up and get better, haha.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: fastdrop on October 25, 2016, 01:02:57 pm
Quote from: ricepig on October 25, 2016, 12:53:44 pm
Yeah, it's fun killing them before they even know what happened, but they grow up and get better, haha.
exactly
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Valleysports on October 25, 2016, 03:02:10 pm
ricepig, maybe you ought to invite that Baylor coach over.  Hire him has an assistant (future head) Hog coach.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on October 25, 2016, 03:25:14 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on October 25, 2016, 03:02:10 pm
ricepig, maybe you ought to invite that Baylor coach over.  Hire him has an assistant (future head) Hog coach.

Long tried to hire him before Petrino, I doubt he wants to come in more today, than then, lol.

Wait, were you referring to Briles?? Uh, no thanks.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on October 25, 2016, 03:35:18 pm
No "big name" wants to come here.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bdubyab60 on October 25, 2016, 03:44:44 pm
Quote from: fastdrop on October 25, 2016, 12:45:53 pm
yep, whipper snatchers showed no mercy.
Got an 18 month old nephew and I end up being a jungle gym. Pretty good workout
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: fastdrop on October 25, 2016, 04:37:06 pm
Quote from: bdubyab60 on October 25, 2016, 03:44:44 pm
Got an 18 month old nephew and I end up being a jungle gym. Pretty good workout
My son and his G/F was eating with us at cracker barrel Sunday after Church and I am usually don't say much letting everybody else talk and I looked up and said I aint any getting any younger when can I expect some grand kids. The table got quite in a hurry....LOL - My wife almost fell out of her chair.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: fastdrop on October 25, 2016, 04:38:37 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on October 25, 2016, 03:35:18 pm
No "big name" wants to come here.
Why, Arkansas isn't shy on big contracts.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: fastdrop on October 25, 2016, 04:43:27 pm
Quote from: ricepig on October 25, 2016, 03:25:14 pm
Long tried to hire him before Petrino, I doubt he wants to come in more today, than then, lol.

Wait, were you referring to Briles?? Uh, no thanks.
If he was referring to Briles it might be a great hire. BB isn't going anywhere soon and a lot of Hog fans are satisfied with that. I doubt he ever looses the rent a win games again and can go 6 to 8 wins a season with a once in a blue moon 10 win season. Probably all in all really nothing wrong with that.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on October 25, 2016, 04:47:22 pm
Quote from: fastdrop on October 25, 2016, 04:43:27 pm
If he was referring to Briles it might be a great hire. BB isn't going anywhere soon and a lot of Hog fans are satisfied with that. I doubt he ever looses the rent a win games again and can go 6 to 8 wins a season with a once in a blue moon 10 win season. Probably all in all really nothing wrong with that.

Isn't that what Petrino did? Arkansas is a once in a blue moon 10 win season type of program.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on October 25, 2016, 04:52:18 pm
Quote from: fastdrop on October 25, 2016, 04:43:27 pm
If he was referring to Briles it might be a great hire. BB isn't going anywhere soon and a lot of Hog fans are satisfied with that. I doubt he ever looses the rent a win games again and can go 6 to 8 wins a season with a once in a blue moon 10 win season. Probably all in all really nothing wrong with that.

Briles won't be considered as long as Long is AD. We have two more seasons minimum of Bielema, then if it's decided by those who make these type of decisions to go another direction, they will. Message board jockeys, pro or con, have absolutely no bearing on his status.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: fastdrop on October 25, 2016, 04:54:45 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on October 25, 2016, 04:47:22 pm
Isn't that what Petrino did? Arkansas is a once in a blue moon 10 win season type of program.
As long as you understand that you will appreciate and enjoy the blue moon season all the more. Chicago and Cleveland in the world series ...... I love it.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: fastdrop on October 25, 2016, 04:56:02 pm
Quote from: ricepig on October 25, 2016, 04:52:18 pm
Briles won't be considered as long as Long is AD. We have two more seasons minimum of Bielema, then if it's decided by those who make these type of decisions to go another direction, they will. Message board jockeys, pro or con, have absolutely no bearing on his status.
I don't think BB is all that bad. People tend to forget you guys play in the SEC west.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bdubyab60 on October 25, 2016, 05:00:28 pm
Quote from: fastdrop on October 25, 2016, 04:37:06 pm
My son and his G/F was eating with us at cracker barrel Sunday after Church and I am usually don't say much letting everybody else talk and I looked up and said I aint any getting any younger when can I expect some grand kids. The table got quite in a hurry....LOL - My wife almost fell out of her chair.
My wife wants em now as well. I told her the kid has to get off that Xbox if he's gonna do that. So I'm probably not gonna have any until I have stone at my head. Lol
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on October 25, 2016, 05:04:15 pm
Quote from: fastdrop on October 25, 2016, 04:56:02 pm
I don't think BB is all that bad. People tend to forget you guys play in the SEC west.

Nor do I. As a fan for 50 years, I've seen a lot of good and bad football, it's peak and valleys. We sucked, no doubt, and will again some game, haha.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bdubyab60 on October 25, 2016, 05:05:59 pm
Well the one thing that I see that would hurt us as far as getting a quote "big time, name coach" is ability to get recruits to the Hill. I don't think it's a problem with pay for sure. Even BP didn't have great classes that I'm aware of anyway, I'm not much in to keeping up with recruiting. But for the most part we stay in that 20-30 range no matter who has been here.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on October 25, 2016, 05:09:45 pm
Quote from: bdubyab60 on October 25, 2016, 05:05:59 pm
Well the one thing that I see that would hurt us as far as getting a quote "big time, name coach" is ability to get recruits to the Hill. I don't think it's a problem with pay for sure. Even BP didn't have great classes that I'm aware of anyway, I'm not much in to keeping up with recruiting. But for the most part we stay in that 20-30 range no matter who has been here.

He had one good class, but it had the Warren 3 and Joe Adams, it was the backbone of the success of 2010/2011.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: fastdrop on October 25, 2016, 05:13:37 pm
Quote from: bdubyab60 on October 25, 2016, 05:00:28 pm
My wife wants em now as well. I told her the kid has to get off that Xbox if he's gonna do that. So I'm probably not gonna have any until I have stone at my head. Lol
I might of messed up when I told them I didn't want to raise the grand kids just wanted to borrow them every now and then.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: fastdrop on October 25, 2016, 05:15:42 pm
Quote from: bdubyab60 on October 25, 2016, 05:05:59 pm
Well the one thing that I see that would hurt us as far as getting a quote "big time, name coach" is ability to get recruits to the Hill. I don't think it's a problem with pay for sure. Even BP didn't have great classes that I'm aware of anyway, I'm not much in to keeping up with recruiting. But for the most part we stay in that 20-30 range no matter who has been here.
I think you have to recruit hoping to have that special senior year class. But with them leaving as juniors hard to do.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on October 25, 2016, 05:26:30 pm
Quote from: fastdrop on October 25, 2016, 05:15:42 pm
I think you have to recruit hoping to have that special senior year class. But with them leaving as juniors hard to do.

Yeah, just think if this team had Henry, Collins, or Kirkland on it? We probably would have scored a TD on Saturday!
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: fastdrop on October 25, 2016, 05:30:44 pm
Quote from: ricepig on October 25, 2016, 05:26:30 pm
Yeah, just think if this team had Henry, Collins, or Kirkland on it? We probably would have scored a TD on Saturday!
I kind of expected a beat down. Gus doesn't much care for Arkansas or CBB. Arkansas had played a tough scedule without a break and Gus had two weeks to get ready for this game.

You would of beeded the arkansas all conference team for the last 5 years to of kept it to within 21..... ha ha. They were ready for Supper.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Jacketman65 on October 26, 2016, 02:21:57 am
I hate excuses!  I don't know if I have ever heard one out of Alabama! ::)
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bdubyab60 on October 26, 2016, 05:55:52 am
Listen to the Finenaum show on the few times that they lose.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on October 26, 2016, 09:46:10 am
Quote from: bdubyab60 on October 26, 2016, 05:55:52 am
Listen to the Finenaum show on the few times that they lose.

Lol, if Saban ever lost three games in a year, they'd Sadam Hussein his statue and probably his palace, lol.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Longfellow on October 26, 2016, 10:05:04 am
Quote from: ricepig on October 26, 2016, 09:46:10 am
Lol, if Saban ever lost three games in a year, they'd Sadam Hussein his statue and probably his palace, lol.
Well the university does own his house, so it could happen
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Valleysports on October 26, 2016, 04:55:56 pm
Quote from: ricepig on October 25, 2016, 05:26:30 pm
Yeah, just think if this team had Henry, Collins, or Kirkland on it? We probably would have scored a TD on Saturday!

Speaking of TE's - wonder why y'all aren't dumping the ball to Sprinkle over the middle?  Could help with that ears back pass rush.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on October 26, 2016, 05:18:47 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on October 26, 2016, 04:55:56 pm
Speaking of TE's - wonder why y'all aren't dumping the ball to Sprinkle over the middle?  Could help with that ears back pass rush.

Well, a couple of reasons, he's needed to chip/block on some sets, and he's had a bad ankle injury for three weeks. He needs more touches, but we have to have time to throw it, lol.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Valleysports on October 26, 2016, 08:00:48 pm
Quote from: ricepig on October 26, 2016, 05:18:47 pm
Well, a couple of reasons, he's needed to chip/block on some sets, and he's had a bad ankle injury for three weeks. He needs more touches, but we have to have time to throw it, lol.

I didn't know about the ankle.  The TE slant can be a valuable weapon.  Just got to thinking about it when Hunter's name was mentioned above. 

This sure has been an interesting season.  I keep hearing that Arkansas fans were fooled because Ole Miss isn't any good, I don't know about that.  Coaches had a real good game plan for Ole Miss, maybe like Auburn did for Arkansas.  Perhaps the real Arkansas falls somewhere between the Ole Miss performance and Auburn flop.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bdubyab60 on October 26, 2016, 09:12:14 pm
i didn't expect to be world beaters. 2-2 over these next 4 is probably a realistic expectation. Never expected us to win out, haven't played good enough to warrant it. Florida is still a tough game, have we ever beaten them. LSU is playing much better with Fornette back and right now that's kind of our week spot on defense

Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: VHSCoach2 on October 27, 2016, 07:57:57 am
Quote from: bdubyab60 on October 26, 2016, 09:12:14 pm
i didn't expect to be world beaters. 2-2 over these next 4 is probably a realistic expectation. Never expected us to win out, haven't played good enough to warrant it. Florida is still a tough game, have we ever beaten them. LSU is playing much better with Fornette back and right now that's kind of our week spot on defense

Once. In the 1982 Bluebonnet Bowl. The score was 28-24.

Overall, the Hogs are 1-9 against the Gators. Florida averages 36.6 PPG, while the Hogs average just 16.8 in the ten meetings.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bdubyab60 on October 27, 2016, 08:00:33 am
So since we have been in the SEC we haven't beaten them. Well maybe we can turn it around next week then.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on October 27, 2016, 10:26:20 am
Quote from: bdubyab60 on October 27, 2016, 08:00:33 am
So since we have been in the SEC we haven't beaten them. Well maybe we can turn it around next week then.

Streaks have to end eventually, haha.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Valleysports on October 27, 2016, 10:53:50 am
Quote from: ricepig on October 27, 2016, 10:26:20 am
Streaks have to end eventually, haha.

OH is that how it is?  Hasn't been too long since you and Mack would use "history" as a weapon against my suggestions that A&M, moving into the SEC, wouldn't be good for Arkansas.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on October 27, 2016, 10:53:50 am
Florida-Arkansas — 9 games (1995-2013): The Gators' nine-game win streak over Arkansas is far from the most publicized win streaks around, but it is significant in that the Hogs have yet to top Florida since joining the SEC in 1992. They met for the first time as conference foes in 1995, and in that time Arkansas only lost twice by single figures and lost four times by at least 30 points.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on October 27, 2016, 10:56:58 am
Quote from: Valleysports on October 27, 2016, 10:53:50 am
OH is that how it is?  Hasn't been too long since you and Mack would use "history" as a weapon against my suggestions that A&M, moving into the SEC, wouldn't be good for Arkansas.

Sure, you don't think we are any different from you to use "facts" as we see fit?
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: beach bum on October 27, 2016, 11:15:38 am
Quote from: cuckoobird on October 27, 2016, 10:53:50 am
Florida-Arkansas — 9 games (1995-2013): The Gators' nine-game win streak over Arkansas is far from the most publicized win streaks around, but it is significant in that the Hogs have yet to top Florida since joining the SEC in 1992. They met for the first time as conference foes in 1995, and in that time Arkansas only lost twice by single figures and lost four times by at least 30 points.

This why the SEC needs a 9 game conference schedule. How can we even call Florida a conference opponent when we have only played them 9 times in 24 years since 1992. Maybe ricepig will have some sort of logic about this? Two of those were in the conference title game I believe so we have only been scheduled 7 times in 24 years against a "conference opponent"???
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on October 27, 2016, 12:02:18 pm
I do agree cross conference play shouldn't help decide the east and west champion. Poor TEnner had to play aTm and Alabama
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on October 27, 2016, 02:08:41 pm
Quote from: beach bum on October 27, 2016, 11:15:38 am
This why the SEC needs a 9 game conference schedule. How can we even call Florida a conference opponent when we have only played them 9 times in 24 years since 1992. Maybe ricepig will have some sort of logic about this? Two of those were in the conference title game I believe so we have only been scheduled 7 times in 24 years against a "conference opponent"???

Well, you have your constant opponent from the other side, and the rotating position. When they added aTm and Mizzou, it seems they started all over again with your rotating opponent, no matter what the past schedules were. They should have both of your other division opponents be rotating, but TN, Bama, Georgia, and Auburn wouldn't allow it.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on October 28, 2016, 08:08:52 am
I don't get it...let's all face facts...our up and down seasons are due to lack of recruiting. I think we can all agree on that. So why can't we recruit to Fayetteville? Here are a few reasons I think we should be on the level of almost everyone else...

1. Boosters - We have Wal-Mart and the Waltons. JB Hunt, Lindsey, Don W. Reynolds foundation and Tyson and I'm sure there are a ton more...
2. Facilities - We have some of the best facilities in the nation and if ever in need we get what we need everytime.
3. We pay well for our coaching staffs. Maybe not the highest but far from the lowest.
4. Fayetteville is a very nice area to live in.
5. What is so special about Norman, Ok, Lincoln NE Or about any other school. Fayetteville has about anything those cities has. Now the Florida schools and California schools I get the ocean factor and the beaches.

I just don't get it...Rice, help me understand...lol...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on October 28, 2016, 08:33:22 am
I've never understood why people say that either
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Valleysports on October 28, 2016, 10:09:40 am
Question is - what does Fayetteville have that the competition doesn't? 
What would being a Razorback do for you that the competition can't? 
Give me something other than "we aren't Bama, but if you come maybe we can be".
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on October 28, 2016, 10:15:15 am
Quote from: Coach Venny Slocombe on October 28, 2016, 08:08:52 am
I don't get it...let's all face facts...our up and down seasons are due to lack of recruiting. I think we can all agree on that. So why can't we recruit to Fayetteville? Here are a few reasons I think we should be on the level of almost everyone else...

1. Boosters - We have Wal-Mart and the Waltons. JB Hunt, Lindsey, Don W. Reynolds foundation and Tyson and I'm sure there are a ton more...
2. Facilities - We have some of the best facilities in the nation and if ever in need we get what we need everytime.
3. We pay well for our coaching staffs. Maybe not the highest but far from the lowest.
4. Fayetteville is a very nice area to live in.
5. What is so special about Norman, Ok, Lincoln NE Or about any other school. Fayetteville has about anything those cities has. Now the Florida schools and California schools I get the ocean factor and the beaches.

I just don't get it...Rice, help me understand...lol...

We do have the boosters, and they help, but since the Ted Herrod mess of Broyles, we aren't "paying" for players. Sure, there are $100 handshakes, and jobs after they play, but no $5000 just to visit, like some other schools.

I agree great facilities and a staff well paid to get the job done. As far as Fayetteville, great city and area, but, it isn't a culturally diverse as other SEC/Big 12 cities. Plus, you throw in the cost to fly in to NWA, and it's a big hindrance. At least, now, the NCAA is allowing schools to pay for the recruits airfare and his parents, but it still hurts on the Jr and Sophomore recruits wanting to take an unofficial visit.

OU has OKC, which is more diverse and has a pro sports team, that does help. Now, Nebraska, they are benefiting from their past connections to the west coast and other areas when they were real good. Sometimes, all it takes is a few to develop a pipeline.

That's about my best guess on the reasons we will always be in the 25ish range nationally, and 8-12 in the conference.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on October 28, 2016, 10:47:31 am
I would like to see proof of the $5000 visit rewards or it's just a conspiracy theory.

OKC didn't have an NBA franchise until recently so I'm not sure that's an excuse either

And as far as Nebraska benefitting from their past with the west coast connection , I do believe one of Arkansas' failures is recruiting or lack there of of the entire state like they did when broyles holtz and hatfield were coaching
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on October 28, 2016, 12:10:46 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on October 28, 2016, 10:47:31 am
I would like to see proof of the $5000 visit rewards or it's just a conspiracy theory.

OKC didn't have an NBA franchise until recently so I'm not sure that's an excuse either

And as far as Nebraska benefitting from their past with the west coast connection , I do believe one of Arkansas' failures is recruiting or lack there of of the entire state like they did when broyles holtz and hatfield were coaching

So, are you saying that the diversity of OKC, and the lack of in NWA isn't a factor? To the question of $5000 visits, wait until the investigation is over, lol. Also, go back and compare the recruiting of the "entire" state with the scholarship limitations between today and then, huge difference, lol.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on October 28, 2016, 12:26:35 pm
Okc is diverse, that's why I didn't add that in my response. The nba team has no affect imo

We were better when the whole state was recruited
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on October 28, 2016, 12:42:25 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on October 28, 2016, 12:26:35 pm
Okc is diverse, that's why I didn't add that in my response. The nba team has no affect imo

We were better when the whole state was recruited

I would say it definitely helps, and it's been there since 2008, that's forever to an 18yr old.

We recruit the entire state, and we played in a different conference, lol.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on October 28, 2016, 02:26:44 pm
But we won the only national title then too. We can't compete now in the sec much less nationally
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on October 28, 2016, 02:36:10 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on October 28, 2016, 02:26:44 pm
But we won the only national title then too. We can't compete now in the sec much less nationally

I don't count that "national championship". Neither does most youth.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on October 28, 2016, 02:39:31 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on October 28, 2016, 02:36:10 pm
I don't count that "national championship". Neither does most youth.

Well, who cares what you think, lol, and honestly, it's been so long ago, it doesn't factor into recruiting.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on October 28, 2016, 02:40:26 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on October 28, 2016, 02:26:44 pm
But we won the only national title then too. We can't compete now in the sec much less nationally

Hmm.....what's changed on the landscape since then, surely you aren't that dense.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on October 28, 2016, 02:40:34 pm
Quote from: ricepig on October 28, 2016, 02:39:31 pm
Well, who cares what you think, lol, and honestly, it's been so long ago, it doesn't factor into recruiting.

Oh....you care. Haha

Even then, that "championship" didn't factor into recruiting. Maybe the conference title. But that that phony title in 64.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on October 28, 2016, 02:41:49 pm
I'm not saying it matters to kids now, I'm saying we won it with a lot of home state boys. Just like we won a lot of games under holtz with home state boys. Surely you remember the orange bowl victory with starters out and thumping OU/OKC?
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on October 28, 2016, 03:13:42 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on October 28, 2016, 02:41:49 pm
I'm not saying it matters to kids now, I'm saying we won it with a lot of home state boys. Just like we won a lot of games under holtz with home state boys. Surely you remember the orange bowl victory with starters out and thumping OU/OKC?

Where was Scanlon from, where was Calcagni from, where was Cowins from? We're good when Arkansas has good high school players, they haven't since John Walker ruined LRSD football.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on October 28, 2016, 03:16:33 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on October 28, 2016, 02:40:34 pm
Oh....you care. Haha

Even then, that "championship" didn't factor into recruiting. Maybe the conference title. But that that phony title in 64.

The NCAA recognizes it, all that matters.

http://www.ncaa.com/history/football/fbs
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on October 28, 2016, 03:34:08 pm
The athletes are still there regardless if the LRSD has good teams. Camden was a hot bed of talent too
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on October 28, 2016, 03:36:41 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on October 28, 2016, 03:34:08 pm
The athletes are still there regardless if the LRSD has good teams. Camden was a hot bed of talent too

Well, they aren't playing football.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on October 28, 2016, 03:37:20 pm
Quote from: ricepig on October 28, 2016, 03:13:42 pm
Where was Scanlon from, where was Calcagni from, where was Cowins from? We're good when Arkansas has good high school players, they haven't since John Walker ruined LRSD football.

They have one right night that plays for McCllellen, running back. If given the chance, he could be something else.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on October 28, 2016, 03:50:07 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on October 28, 2016, 03:37:20 pm
They have one right night that plays for McCllellen, running back. If given the chance, he could be something else.

He doesn't have a D-I offer.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on October 28, 2016, 05:08:31 pm
Right, and the UofA should wait until he does...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on October 28, 2016, 05:09:57 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on October 28, 2016, 05:08:31 pm
Right, and the UofA should wait until he does...

We already have our RB's for this class.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on October 28, 2016, 05:18:15 pm
Ok rp I'm going to ask you directly because honestly you sound like a politician right now. Can you give a yes or no answer on whether the UofA recruits the entire state like they did when we were a pretty successful and respected nationally program during the broyls and holtz years?
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on October 28, 2016, 05:25:26 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on October 28, 2016, 05:18:15 pm
Ok rp I'm going to ask you directly because honestly you sound like a politician right now. Can you give a yes or no answer on whether the UofA recruits the entire state like they did when we were a pretty successful and respected nationally program during the broyls and holtz years?

Yes, they recruit the entire state. We have recruits from every region of the state. I guess up here in NEA we are slighted a little, unless you consider Hardy in NEA. Tell me where we are missing recruits? The SEC and SWC aren't comparable today, that's pretty simple to see.

Our highest rated recruit under Broyles was Joe Ferguson, everybody wanted him.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on October 28, 2016, 05:47:25 pm
They didn't really recruit dixon and he was pretty successful in college. My opinion is they wait, like with the kid aw mentioned, until they get additional d1 offers and by then it's too late. I think they are letting the recruiting services, which I'm personally not a fan of because most of them give their stars based on a highlight film without ever having seen a kid play in person, instead of them aggressively recruiting like in the old days.

Plus, there were quite a few national titles won by the swc but there is no way to compare it's heyday with the sec now. The expansion of the sec in the early 90's is actually what made it what it is today. From 1950 to 1990 the big eight ruled the roost
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on October 28, 2016, 05:58:18 pm
They've seen Strong several times, and I believe he camped at Fayetteville, they've evaluated him. Coaching staffs don't use recruiting services, or at least the ones that sell their wares on the internet, lol.

Perino chose a RB in Oklahoma over Dixon, so that happens at times. I guess we should have a roster of 85 kids from Arkansas in your world, boy, can I see you complaining about the results.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on October 28, 2016, 06:27:43 pm
Can it be worse than 56-3? Lol
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Longfellow on October 28, 2016, 06:41:58 pm
Could've been 57-2
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on October 28, 2016, 06:59:43 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on October 28, 2016, 06:27:43 pm
Can it be worse than 56-3? Lol

Sure, it could be a season of them, lol.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on October 28, 2016, 07:17:41 pm
Or it could be a season of victories but we'll never know
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on October 28, 2016, 08:15:53 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on October 28, 2016, 07:17:41 pm
Or it could be a season of victories but we'll never know

47/113 on the roster are from Arkansas.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on October 28, 2016, 08:21:05 pm
How many of those 47 are scholarships?
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on October 28, 2016, 08:49:12 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on October 28, 2016, 08:21:05 pm
How many of those 47 are scholarships?

I don't know who has a scholarship, and who doesn't.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on October 28, 2016, 08:51:35 pm
Well you spent the time looking up the ratio, I'm sure it had an * or something for scholarship players. Take your socks and shoes off and count them
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on October 28, 2016, 09:10:17 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on October 28, 2016, 08:51:35 pm
Well you spent the time looking up the ratio, I'm sure it had an * or something for scholarship players. Take your socks and shoes off and count them

You're a smart guy, figure it out yourself.


http://www.arkansasrazorbacks.com/sport/m-footbl/roster/
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: beach bum on October 28, 2016, 11:50:33 pm
Quote from: ricepig on October 28, 2016, 08:15:53 pm
47/113 on the roster are from Arkansas.

There is another example of why the NFL is so much better than college. Who really needs 113 players on a roster??? That 53 man roster every Sunday actually means something.....
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on October 28, 2016, 11:55:57 pm
The nfl sucks. Everyone plays for themselves, it's rarely a team sport anymore. Except for the Patriots, Coab B keeps egos in check
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Lumberjackfan1978 on October 29, 2016, 12:15:28 am
Quote from: ricepig on October 28, 2016, 03:16:33 pm
The NCAA recognizes it, all that matters.

http://www.ncaa.com/history/football/fbs
+1
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on October 29, 2016, 08:23:08 am
Quote from: beach bum on October 28, 2016, 11:50:33 pm
There is another example of why the NFL is so much better than college. Who really needs 113 players on a roster??? That 53 man roster every Sunday actually means something.....

Well, you can't cut these guys during the week, so there's that.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Valleysports on October 29, 2016, 09:49:13 am
Quote from: ricepig on October 28, 2016, 03:16:33 pm
The NCAA recognizes it, all that matters.

http://www.ncaa.com/history/football/fbs

What in the world?  Arkansas was National Champions 64' (co)......    I learned something today...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Valleysports on October 29, 2016, 10:03:06 am
Anybody watched Florida & LSU's offense closely?  If you get a chance, pay attention to their offense, see how Arkansas Defensive Line might stack up.  I think you might have something to look forward too.   ;)
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on October 29, 2016, 03:18:44 pm
Hogs by 85 today.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on October 29, 2016, 03:23:30 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on October 29, 2016, 03:18:44 pm
Hogs by 85 today.

Homer....
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on October 29, 2016, 03:27:54 pm
I think bye wins
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bleudog on October 31, 2016, 06:04:02 pm
http://www.masseyratings.com/team.php?t=316&s=286577
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: LRRandy on October 31, 2016, 06:48:04 pm
Quote from: bleudog on October 31, 2016, 06:04:02 pm
http://www.masseyratings.com/team.php?t=316&s=286577
getting slightly more than a 50% chance to beat miss. St. surprised me. Miss. St. is not a good football team.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on October 31, 2016, 07:09:05 pm
Quote from: LRRandy on October 31, 2016, 06:48:04 pm
getting slightly more than a 50% chance to beat miss. St. surprised me. Miss. St. is not a good football team.
Neither is Arkansas...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Valleysports on October 31, 2016, 07:12:00 pm
Neither is Ohio St..
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: beach bum on October 31, 2016, 09:25:00 pm
Quote from: Coach Venny Slocombe on October 31, 2016, 07:09:05 pm
Neither is Arkansas...

The honest truth is college football is a yearly cycle of about 2 or 3 really good teams, then 4 or 5 more pretty good teams followed by a bunch of not very good teams. That is what happens when schools have 113 players on a roster times 130 teams. The answer to the equation ends up being a watered down product.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Proud Buckaroo on October 31, 2016, 10:03:48 pm
Hmm...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bdubyab60 on October 31, 2016, 10:46:18 pm
And all of that ends up in the boring NFL. Who's viewership continues to decline as they continue to parade out crappy team after crappy team and whinny diva players who make way more than they are worth. I have exactly 0 NFL games this year. Because it sucks. I buy squares on the SB cause it gives me chance to win money. Heck most people watch it for fantasy football than they do for the game itself.

Truthfully the best thing to watch is a good high school football game. But the NFL and the NBA are a shadow of what they used to be.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: beach bum on October 31, 2016, 11:30:33 pm
Quote from: bdubyab60 on October 31, 2016, 10:46:18 pm
And all of that ends up in the boring NFL. Who's viewership continues to decline as they continue to parade out crappy team after crappy team and whinny diva players who make way more than they are worth. I have exactly 0 NFL games this year. Because it sucks. I buy squares on the SB cause it gives me chance to win money. Heck most people watch it for fantasy football than they do for the game itself.

Truthfully the best thing to watch is a good high school football game. But the NFL and the NBA are a shadow of what they used to be.

It sucks so bad that Alabama would go 0-16 in.... And pro sports suck so bad that less than 2% of college athletes will become professionals. So by your logic if the NFL sucks then college must be the worst thing on the planet. Its the truth. College football is filled with about 115 not very good teams.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 01, 2016, 07:23:51 am
Quote from: beach bum on October 31, 2016, 11:30:33 pm
It sucks so bad that Alabama would go 0-16 in.... And pro sports suck so bad that less than 2% of college athletes will become professionals. So by your logic if the NFL sucks then college must be the worst thing on the planet. Its the truth. College football is filled with about 115 not very good teams.

And IMG, or whomever is suppose to be the best high school team would go 0-12 in FBS football, therefore high school football sucks.......apples and oranges......
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Valleysports on November 01, 2016, 07:24:46 am
I really have lost interest in the NFL.  Look forward to college ball, in the SEC.  I might watch a Texas High School game, if they're playing a Big 10 or 12 team. 
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bdubyab60 on November 01, 2016, 07:49:48 am
Quote from: beach bum on October 31, 2016, 11:30:33 pm
It sucks so bad that Alabama would go 0-16 in.... And pro sports suck so bad that less than 2% of college athletes will become professionals. So by your logic if the NFL sucks then college must be the worst thing on the planet. Its the truth. College football is filled with about 115 not very good teams.
Put it this way. The NFL just had one of its best weekends, with supposedly close and exciting games. Still got smoked by the WS and that hasn't happened in a long time. People like to watch their sucky team on Saturdays, not so much on sundays anymore. A lot of folks like me are tired of watching overpaid divas parade up to the mic and complain about refs, complain about getting hit, throw games to get a better draft picks. That's why it really sucks. We don't have to hear that crap except from the coaches.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on November 01, 2016, 08:15:09 am
I don't think Alabama would go 0-16.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on November 01, 2016, 08:28:33 am
Quote from: Valleysports on November 01, 2016, 07:24:46 am
I really have lost interest in the NFL.  Look forward to college ball, in the SEC.  I might watch a Texas High School game, if they're playing a Big 10 or 12 team. 

Me too. I haven't watched one game.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 01, 2016, 09:51:23 am
I love all football, but I will say this...


NFL - I used to get the Sunday Ticket...not anymore. I watch Cowboy games because the Cowboys are my team. Other teams, I can't watch a complete game...

College Football - I can watch about any game. Lots of exciting games this year...

High School Football - I love high school football and if it is two good teams I don't care who they are...I can watch it all day long...


As for Arkansas, let's face it guys. It is just a down year. We are not a good football team. If we beat Florida this weekend by 60 I still say Arkansas is not a good team...and Valley, tOSU is not very good either, I agree...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on November 01, 2016, 10:20:47 am
I like watching that Washington Huskies football team.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 01, 2016, 10:26:27 am
Quote from: AirWarren on November 01, 2016, 08:28:33 am
Me too. I haven't watched one game.

I've watched more this year than in several years. It's probably due to nothing else being on to interest me. Now, I seldom watch any Sunday afternoon games, usually some of the prime time games.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on November 01, 2016, 11:17:53 am
I catch up on English premiere league games on Sunday after church and lunch. Friday is high school and Saturday is college football.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 01, 2016, 11:43:51 am
Quote from: AirWarren on November 01, 2016, 11:17:53 am
I catch up on English premiere league games on Sunday after church and lunch. Friday is high school and Saturday is college football.

Soccer???? I actually will watch a little, if it's two of the better teams I'll watch 15 minutes if one of them is actually trying to score, haha. I prefer the UEFA matches, if it's tournament time.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on November 01, 2016, 01:44:30 pm
Quote from: ricepig on November 01, 2016, 11:43:51 am
Soccer???? I actually will watch a little, if it's two of the better teams I'll watch 15 minutes if one of them is actually trying to score, haha. I prefer the UEFA matches, if it's tournament time.

Yup, soccer. I've traded NFL football for good soccer. UEFA is fun to watch, can't really say I have a team I support.

In the EPL, I'm a big Chelsea FC fan. I watch every one of their games.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on November 01, 2016, 02:21:28 pm
I would rather watch curling than the nfl
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bdubyab60 on November 02, 2016, 06:33:33 am
Quote from: cuckoobird on November 01, 2016, 02:21:28 pm
I would rather watch curling than the nfl
I like the crap out of curling
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 02, 2016, 07:23:31 am
Quote from: bdubyab60 on November 02, 2016, 06:33:33 am
I like the crap out of curling

I played a lot of shuffleboard in college, instead of studying, I think I would be good. We still have a table at the duck club.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 02, 2016, 12:37:02 pm
I would rather watch paint dry as watch soccer...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on November 02, 2016, 01:57:02 pm
Quote from: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 02, 2016, 12:37:02 pm
I would rather watch paint dry as watch soccer...

Understandable. That's how I feel about baseball. That's the beauty of satellite tv. There is a channel for the sport of choice for everyone.

NASCAR, formula one racing...I don't know how people watch that. Same as golf. Eek.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 02, 2016, 02:43:45 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on November 02, 2016, 01:57:02 pm
Understandable. That's how I feel about baseball. That's the beauty of satellite tv. There is a channel for the sport of choice for everyone.

NASCAR, formula one racing...I don't know how people watch that. Same as golf. Eek.

Shoot, I can push away from the Sunday meal, lie down on the couch, turn on soccer, golf, baseball, NASCAR,  NFL, and get a nap in. With baseball and NASCAR, you can wake up and catch the end of it.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 02, 2016, 02:46:06 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on November 02, 2016, 01:57:02 pm
Understandable. That's how I feel about baseball. That's the beauty of satellite tv. There is a channel for the sport of choice for everyone.

NASCAR, formula one racing...I don't know how people watch that. Same as golf. Eek.
lol..yep...and I can watch golf and Nascar...and like Rice says, get in a great nap!
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on November 02, 2016, 03:42:15 pm
Quote from: ricepig on November 02, 2016, 02:43:45 pm
Shoot, I can push away from the Sunday meal, lie down on the couch, turn on soccer, golf, baseball, NASCAR,  NFL, and get a nap in. With baseball and NASCAR, you can wake up and catch the end of it.

I openly admit, I have taken some good naps during soccer matches ha.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Longfellow on November 02, 2016, 05:50:43 pm
For some reason, I can only get interested in the USMNT. Can't really watch soccer otherwise
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: beach bum on November 02, 2016, 07:34:01 pm
Anyone honestly have an idea how this Saturday's game will go against Florida and be able to say it with even the slightest conviction? This could go so many ways in my mind with either team winning comfortably to it being close. I imagine most feel the same. I am going to say however of a final prediction of heartbreak city and go with the Gators 23-20 on a last second field goal.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: LRRandy on November 02, 2016, 08:15:30 pm
Based on the last two seasons it's reasonable to expect the fighting bielema's to come out strong and play inspired football to win. Florida, while having a stout defense leaves a lot to be desired on offense. I think Razorbacks win.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: HorseFeathers on November 02, 2016, 08:30:46 pm
Quote from: beach bum on November 02, 2016, 07:34:01 pm
Anyone honestly have an idea how this Saturday's game will go against Florida and be able to say it with even the slightest conviction? This could go so many ways in my mind with either team winning comfortably to it being close. I imagine most feel the same. I am going to say however of a final prediction of heartbreak city and go with the Gators 23-20 on a last second field goal.

Depends....does the razorback defense intend to look like they know that they're is a football game being played....or look lost all night....either way it still could be a good game with as inept as Florida's offense has been for last two seasons...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on November 02, 2016, 08:50:07 pm
Biggest problems.

1. Our defense is soft. Florida is struggling on offense. But rest assured, we know how to make a bad offense look like a #1 sec offense and an SEC Qb or RB look like a Heisman.

2. Florida may have a "bad" offense, but our defense is porous.

Just depends on what Hog team comes to play.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Valleysports on November 04, 2016, 05:21:56 pm
Ricepig, you going to Fayetteville? I'm heading up the pig trail in 10 mins - us fans got to stick together.  LOL   Don't know who we're playing Basketball against tonight, if it's A&M again ........   Be on the 50 yd line tomorrow, probably only hog fan not wearing red.  Whoo Hoo Sooeee!
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 04, 2016, 05:26:33 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on November 04, 2016, 05:21:56 pm
Ricepig, you going to Fayetteville? I'm heading up the pig trail in 10 mins - us fans got to stick together.  LOL   Don't know who we're playing Basketball against tonight, if it's A&M again ........   Be on the 50 yd line tomorrow, probably only hog fan not wearing red.  Whoo Hoo Sooeee!

Yep, flying out about 9 in the morning, we play Emporia somebody in basketball, lol. You rich guys get all the good seats, I'll be stuck in the second level of the south end zone, as usual.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Valleysports on November 04, 2016, 08:04:31 pm
Quote from: ricepig on November 04, 2016, 05:26:33 pm
Yep, flying out about 9 in the morning, we play Emporia somebody in basketball, lol. You rich guys get all the good seats, I'll be stuck in the second level of the south end zone, as usual.

This is almost as cool as TECHs gym. You know tomorrow will be my first Razorback Football game? First D1 game since Baylor played Penn St in the Cotton Bowl.  Correction was told we have great seats in the south endzone. Am I gonna be outside?
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 04, 2016, 08:16:38 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on November 04, 2016, 08:04:31 pm
This is almost as cool as TECHs gym. You know tomorrow will be my first Razorback Football game? First D1 game since Baylor played Penn St in the Cotton Bowl.  Correction was told we have great seats in the south endzone. Am I gonna be outside?

Depends, there's the end zone, the South Outdoor Club, the South Indoor Club, and then some suites.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: VHSCoach2 on November 05, 2016, 12:22:42 pm
Razorbacks will be wearing all black uniforms today.

Fitting, seeing as how they are attending Florida's funeral  8)
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 05, 2016, 12:36:12 pm
Quote from: VHSCoach2 on November 05, 2016, 12:22:42 pm
Razorbacks will be wearing all black uniforms today.

Fitting, seeing as how they are attending Florida's funeral  8)

Actually they're anthracite, but it's ok to wear dark grey to a funeral..........
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: LRRandy on November 05, 2016, 12:39:07 pm
Quote from: VHSCoach2 on November 05, 2016, 12:22:42 pm
Razorbacks will be wearing all black uniforms today.

Fitting, seeing as how they are attending Florida's funeral  8)
i saw the helmets this morning on the news. I'm kinda traditional and my sons like the uniform changing game more than I do but I will admit that I thought the helmets looked pretty cool.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on November 05, 2016, 12:42:58 pm
I like them. Helmets look good.


Just want a win
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on November 05, 2016, 12:46:18 pm
I just hope the last time the hogs were on the field isn't still in their minds. I really wish they wouldn't have had a week off after that gus bus beatdown to get over it
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on November 05, 2016, 12:47:24 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on November 05, 2016, 12:46:18 pm
I just hope the last time the hogs were on the field isn't still in their minds. I really wish they wouldn't have had a week off after that gus bus beatdown to get over it

That's true.


That week off may end up being a blessing.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on November 05, 2016, 12:49:52 pm
I'm just hoping it wasn't a curse
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Valleysports on November 05, 2016, 02:10:55 pm
Quote from: ricepig on November 04, 2016, 08:16:38 pm
Depends, there's the end zone, the South Outdoor Club, the South Indoor Club, and then some suites.

Dead eye level with the middle of that screen over there.  Hey after what I've seen yesterday / today, I'm starting to understand.  One big party going on here.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Valleysports on November 05, 2016, 02:11:14 pm
You down there ricepig?
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 05, 2016, 02:33:24 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on November 05, 2016, 02:11:14 pm
You down there ricepig?

SEC 223, this may be the last post I catch on here.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Pokey03 on November 05, 2016, 02:39:27 pm
Quote from: LRRandy on November 05, 2016, 12:39:07 pm
i saw the helmets this morning on the news. I'm kinda traditional and my sons like the uniform changing game more than I do but I will admit that I thought the helmets looked pretty cool.
keep it traditional, doesn't look like the Hogs
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Pokey03 on November 05, 2016, 03:09:01 pm
Hogs look balanced on offense so far
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: LRRandy on November 05, 2016, 03:55:56 pm
Quote from: Pokey03 on November 05, 2016, 03:09:01 pm
Hogs look balanced on offense so far
they are dominating defensively. You wouldn't have thought you would say that after Auburn.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on November 05, 2016, 04:19:11 pm
Loving this. The uniforms look good too!
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ViloniaEaglestoWMS on November 05, 2016, 04:50:56 pm
Whoever keeps yelling "OOOOOOOOOOOO"'when Arkansas is on offense, STOP IT
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: chaoslord on November 05, 2016, 04:57:19 pm
Defense came to play. Robb Smith coaching for his job I guess!
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Pokey03 on November 05, 2016, 04:57:34 pm
Quote from: LRRandy on November 05, 2016, 03:55:56 pm
they are dominating defensively. You wouldn't have thought you would say that after Auburn.
Defense is playing lights out, hopefully for a complete game
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Pokey03 on November 05, 2016, 05:00:04 pm
Seeing some in state freshman make some plays
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on November 05, 2016, 05:17:35 pm
We need some points.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on November 05, 2016, 05:18:00 pm
Quote from: chaoslord on November 05, 2016, 04:57:19 pm
Defense came to play. Robb Smith coaching for his job I guess!

I wish he would act like every week it was his job on the line.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on November 05, 2016, 05:24:52 pm
They are beating the L out of Florida.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Proud Buckaroo on November 05, 2016, 05:35:47 pm
How many Florida players are going to go down??
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Proud Buckaroo on November 05, 2016, 05:36:45 pm
Another one....
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on November 05, 2016, 05:45:06 pm
That is bielema ball. Physical. First time we have seen this kind of physicality all year.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Pokey03 on November 05, 2016, 05:48:55 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on November 05, 2016, 05:45:06 pm
That is bielema ball. Physical. First time we have seen this kind of physicality all year.
Whatever was said after the Auburn game worked
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bdubyab60 on November 05, 2016, 06:01:02 pm
Close this thing out.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bdubyab60 on November 05, 2016, 06:04:42 pm
Whaley is gonna think our o-line doesn't like him. Every time he busts one there is a holding call, seems like it any way.

Good win
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Pokey03 on November 05, 2016, 06:04:57 pm
Nice dominate win for the Hogs.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Proud Buckaroo on November 05, 2016, 06:06:51 pm
Very, very good win. I'm pleased. We whooped them in every aspect of the game.

Boy. I loved with Damon laid the boom to Thompson.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on November 05, 2016, 06:07:51 pm
Keep the uniforms the rest of the year. IDGAD if the traditionalist like traditional. That's how a Bret Bielema team is supposed to play!!
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bdubyab60 on November 05, 2016, 06:32:20 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on November 05, 2016, 06:07:51 pm
Keep the uniforms the rest of the year. IDGAD if the traditionalist like traditional. That's how a Bret Bielema team is supposed to play!!
I like the gray unis
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on November 05, 2016, 06:36:02 pm
I'm with AW, keep the MOJO going
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: LRRandy on November 05, 2016, 06:58:42 pm
Quote from: LRRandy on November 02, 2016, 08:15:30 pm
Based on the last two seasons it's reasonable to expect the fighting bielema's to come out strong and play inspired football to win. Florida, while having a stout defense leaves a lot to be desired on offense. I think Razorbacks win.
knda what I thought would happen. Hog O played better than I thought they might against the Gators. Great, complete win. Congrats
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on November 05, 2016, 07:23:46 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on November 05, 2016, 06:36:02 pm
I'm with AW, keep the MOJO going

You're with me this week.

Come two Friday nights from now....not so much ha
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 05, 2016, 07:34:37 pm
https://twitter.com/TomMurphyADG/status/795046324232159239
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on November 05, 2016, 08:04:00 pm
All red. I like it.


I may be in DWRRS for this one.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 05, 2016, 08:16:55 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on November 05, 2016, 08:04:00 pm
All red. I like it.


I may be in DWRRS for this one.

We've worn it on the last two LSU whoopins...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on November 05, 2016, 08:26:12 pm
Quote from: ricepig on November 05, 2016, 08:16:55 pm
We've worn it on the last two LSU whoopins...

Yep. Two years ago when it was frigid, we were there. It was fun seeing those hogs beat the dog out of lsuck in the cold.

Don't think we will have that kind of cold on our side this year.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on November 05, 2016, 08:43:40 pm
Yeah in two weeks you're the enemy
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bleudog on November 06, 2016, 08:02:58 pm
http://www.masseyratings.com/team.php?t=316&s=286577
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bleudog on November 06, 2016, 09:26:18 pm
For entertainment purposes only:

CLICK HERE (http://www.vegasinsider.com/college-football/odds/las-vegas/line-movement/louisiana-state-@-arkansas.cfm/date/11-12-16/time/1900)
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Valleysports on November 07, 2016, 06:13:40 am
I had fun at my first Razorback Game AND I even called the Hogs once.  Like friends lifted my hands on the first wave, I tried but my voice wouldn't work on the next wave, however on the 3rd try - I did it.  I think this might be a lot easier for the Pentecostal Crowd.   :)
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 07, 2016, 07:45:08 am
Hogs did look solid...but Florida is not very good...this win just builds us up so we can lose one we should win...lol...happens every year under CBB...I wish we could put together a good solid year...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bdubyab60 on November 07, 2016, 11:05:27 am
I do think the powers that be mess with these rankings to make people watch. Some team will be ranked say 8th and another 16th one week. They and everyone in between wins except for one team and then the next its number 8 against number 12. Makes for better ratings. When we were about to play A&M we got a nice bump before we played them and probably didn't fall near as far as we should have losing to them and bama before playing ole miss.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Valleysports on November 07, 2016, 03:03:56 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on October 29, 2016, 10:03:06 am
Anybody watch Florida's defense & LSU's offense closely? I think you might have something to look forward too.   ;)
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on November 07, 2016, 03:10:20 pm
LSU offense is Hot Garbage.

If we can move the ball, hogs make it 3 straight on them.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bdubyab60 on November 07, 2016, 04:31:10 pm
Floridas running game is way worse than LSU. That will be the key to beating them though as usual. Their D looked solid though against Bama. I can see this one being a barn burner.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: LRRandy on November 09, 2016, 01:15:53 pm
Can the Hog Oline give Allen time to throw? Run and stop the run is an obvious point of view and rightfully so. Razorback Oline is the difference in this game.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Valleysports on November 10, 2016, 07:16:15 am
Quote from: Valleysports on November 07, 2016, 03:03:56 pmAnybody watch Florida's defense & LSU's offense closely? I think you might have something to look forward too.   ;)

Note* - this quote was made before the Florida game, not in reference to the upcoming LSU game.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 12, 2016, 10:45:24 pm
If we lose to either MSU or Mizzou...I think it's time...24-24 just doesn't cut it...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: urban legend2 on November 12, 2016, 11:25:36 pm
Quote from: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 12, 2016, 10:45:24 pm
If we lose to either MSU or Mizzou...I think it's time...24-24 just doesn't cut it...
I think both of those games will not be as easy as fans initially thought.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 13, 2016, 02:04:09 am
Quote from: urban legend2 on November 12, 2016, 11:25:36 pm
I think both of those games will not be as easy as fans initially thought.
Who knows? Which team shows up? This has been a pattern with CBB since he has been here. Win a game that maybe we shouldn't followed with an embarrassing loss. Play Bama within 1...lose to the University of Science and Technology by 40 the next week...The rebuilding process didn't take this long with Nutt or Petrino...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 13, 2016, 07:22:14 am
Quote from: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 12, 2016, 10:45:24 pm
If we lose to either MSU or Mizzou...I think it's time...24-24 just doesn't cut it...

Well, thankfully, you have no say in the matter. He's getting 6 years, I told you that from the get-go. That's what it took to get a coach that had gone to 3 straight BCS bowls to come to Arkansas. There's no telling what it will take to entice someone after Bret.........
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: beach bum on November 13, 2016, 08:20:05 am
Quote from: ricepig on November 13, 2016, 07:22:14 am
Well, thankfully, you have no say in the matter. He's getting 6 years, I told you that from the get-go. That's what it took to get a coach that had gone to 3 straight BCS bowls to come to Arkansas. There's no telling what it will take to entice someone after Bret.........

He is only getting 6 years because they were stupid enough to sign him to an extension after starting 2-14 in the SEC after two years???
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 13, 2016, 08:31:51 am
Quote from: beach bum on November 13, 2016, 08:20:05 am
He is only getting 6 years because they were stupid enough to sign him to an extension after starting 2-14 in the SEC after two years???

Nope, the original contract was for 6 years, and it was extended two more years in 2015.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: beach bum on November 13, 2016, 08:36:20 am
Quote from: ricepig on November 13, 2016, 08:31:51 am
Nope, the original contract was for 6 years, and it was extended two more years in 2015.

The extension is what caused for the giant buyout.... Or else he would be gone after 5.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 13, 2016, 08:45:15 am
Quote from: beach bum on November 13, 2016, 08:36:20 am
The extension is what caused for the giant buyout.... Or else he would be gone after 5.

Nope, not really. Long was going to give him 6 years from the start. I guess if someone ponied up the money they could have done something before then, but that doesn't happen at Arkansas, not big money.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 13, 2016, 08:53:44 am
Quote from: ricepig on November 13, 2016, 07:22:14 am
Well, thankfully, you have no say in the matter. He's getting 6 years, I told you that from the get-go. That's what it took to get a coach that had gone to 3 straight BCS bowls to come to Arkansas. There's no telling what it will take to entice someone after Bret.........
Really Rice? Really? And you do have a say? I am glad you keep us up to date on every matter Razorback...lol...kinda like the Women's basketball team. Now, he may get six who knows? I don't for sure and you don't either. As stupid as Long is I'm sure he will sign him to another 20 year extension. Yes CBB went to 3 straight BCS bowls...in the Big 10 and it wasn't very good then. How many BCS games did he win? He was 2-4 in bowl games at UofW. And for the record...nobody except maybe you cares what he did at Wisconsin...I only care what he does at Arkansas.

His record stands at 24-24...now if you support the Razorback coach then great. That is your right. But if you really think that he has done a good job at Arkansas then maybe everyone needs to examine exactly what a good job is...he came in running his mouth, and even when he loses he still runs it...lol...24-24, no matter how you look at it is average. Please someone show me where 24-24 is above average. His conference record is a whopping 9-21...but, but, but he plays in the SEC West! So 15 of his 24 wins have come against The University of the Blind and Disabled and we have lost to that school a couple of times also...Sheeeeeezzzzz...listen, maybe it would take alot to come here if we fire him. It isn't like we have fired coaches for no reason for the past twenty years...Nutt deserved it, Petrino did it to himself and John L. Smith was an interim coach...

In the end you will more than likely be right, he will get two more...but you have to ask yourself a few questions Rice...
1. Does he really deserve it? Especially if he loses one of the last two...
2. What has he accomplished in 4 years?
3. Was he over hyped when he was hired?

Again, who knows...but you don't and I don't...Maybe if Long would be shown the door things might start happening on the hill... ;)
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 13, 2016, 08:56:34 am
Quote from: ricepig on November 13, 2016, 08:45:15 am
Nope, not really. Long was going to give him 6 years from the start. I guess if someone ponied up the money they could have done something before then, but that doesn't happen at Arkansas, not big money.

So you and Long have spoken about this I assume...kinda like the woman's basketball story you threw out there?
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 13, 2016, 09:13:04 am
Quote from: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 13, 2016, 08:56:34 am
So you and Long have spoken about this I assume...kinda like the woman's basketball story you threw out there?

Nope, I have only met Jeff Long once, that I recall. I've told you before where any of my info comes from, it's not within the athletic department. If you don't think there is a big difference in support for the women's basketball team, and support for our football team, well, there's no help. I gave you all the info you needed to know who wasn't happy with the action over the women's basketball team.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 13, 2016, 09:21:30 am
Quote from: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 13, 2016, 08:53:44 am
Really Rice? Really? And you do have a say? I am glad you keep us up to date on every matter Razorback...lol...kinda like the Women's basketball team. Now, he may get six who knows? I don't for sure and you don't either. As stupid as Long is I'm sure he will sign him to another 20 year extension. Yes CBB went to 3 straight BCS bowls...in the Big 10 and it wasn't very good then. How many BCS games did he win? He was 2-4 in bowl games at UofW. And for the record...nobody except maybe you cares what he did at Wisconsin...I only care what he does at Arkansas.

His record stands at 24-24...now if you support the Razorback coach then great. That is your right. But if you really think that he has done a good job at Arkansas then maybe everyone needs to examine exactly what a good job is...he came in running his mouth, and even when he loses he still runs it...lol...24-24, no matter how you look at it is average. Please someone show me where 24-24 is above average. His conference record is a whopping 9-21...but, but, but he plays in the SEC West! So 15 of his 24 wins have come against The University of the Blind and Disabled and we have lost to that school a couple of times also...Sheeeeeezzzzz...listen, maybe it would take alot to come here if we fire him. It isn't like we have fired coaches for no reason for the past twenty years...Nutt deserved it, Petrino did it to himself and John L. Smith was an interim coach...

In the end you will more than likely be right, he will get two more...but you have to ask yourself a few questions Rice...
1. Does he really deserve it? Especially if he loses one of the last two...
2. What has he accomplished in 4 years?
3. Was he over hyped when he was hired?

Again, who knows...but you don't and I don't...Maybe if Long would be shown the door things might start happening on the hill... ;)

I have no say at all, my BM level doesn't get me an "ear" with anyone, but I'm know several who do have his "ear".

1) Yes, he was promised 6 years to see what he could do
2) Well, we are 12-5 in our last 17 games, compare that to some of the other schools
3) No more so than any other coach, lol

I've said it numerous times, if, and when the big money boosters are ready for a change, then one will be made. All the message board jockeys, myself included, have no say in the matter.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bdubyab60 on November 13, 2016, 09:24:16 am
We should beat Missouri. MSU is going to be a tough one. They did beat A&M, mobile QB and we usually don't play them well.

My main gripe is that we are so inconsistent this year or is it consistently inconsistent.

I wasn't expecting world beaters this year. We lost too much from last year. I do think we have under performed against the better teams.

AA looked like a guy that was tired of getting knocked around yesterday.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on November 13, 2016, 09:28:20 am
We fire Bret Bielema, Hello Derek Dooley types.

We will be set back another 4 years and the cycle continues.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: WPWells on November 13, 2016, 09:29:32 am
^That
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 13, 2016, 10:01:38 am
Quote from: AirWarren on November 13, 2016, 09:28:20 am
We fire Bret Bielema, Hello Derek Dooley types.

We will be set back another 4 years and the cycle continues.

I can't see how people can't see this. If after 6 years, 8 wins is our highwater mark, then a change is definitely in the cards. People assume/think, that we are some destination job, we aren't, we are a top 20 job that, while it has a good fan base and pays well, plays in the  toughest division in college football and isn't a recruiting hotbed.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: beach bum on November 13, 2016, 10:31:58 am
As Venny said the Big Ten was absolutely pathetic when BB won at Wisconsin. He had Russell Wilson fall into his hands too....
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 13, 2016, 10:36:50 am
Quote from: beach bum on November 13, 2016, 10:31:58 am
As Venny said the Big Ten was absolutely pathetic when BB won at Wisconsin. He had Russell Wilson fall into his hands too....

So, if anything good happened, he gets no credit, and all the bad was his fault?
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: beach bum on November 13, 2016, 10:41:51 am
Quote from: ricepig on November 13, 2016, 10:36:50 am
So, if anything good happened, he gets no credit, and all the bad was his fault?

Simply pointing out he would have had zero Big Ten titles with the Big Ten a respectable conference again if he was at Wisconsin now... Ohio State and Michigan would be running for 350+ a game on Wisconsin instead of it happening at Arkansas now. BB runs his mouth so much about how tough his teams are.... I think he is getting humble pie these last two years.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 13, 2016, 11:18:34 am
Quote from: ricepig on November 13, 2016, 09:13:04 am
Nope, I have only met Jeff Long once, that I recall. I've told you before where any of my info comes from, it's not within the athletic department. If you don't think there is a big difference in support for the women's basketball team, and support for our football team, well, there's no help. I gave you all the info you needed to know who wasn't happy with the action over the women's basketball team.
No, you argued that nothing should or would happen...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 13, 2016, 11:21:42 am
Quote from: ricepig on November 13, 2016, 09:21:30 am
I have no say at all, my BM level doesn't get me an "ear" with anyone, but I'm know several who do have his "ear".

1) Yes, he was promised 6 years to see what he could do
2) Well, we are 12-5 in our last 17 games, compare that to some of the other schools
3) No more so than any other coach, lol

I've said it numerous times, if, and when the big money boosters are ready for a change, then one will be made. All the message board jockeys, myself included, have no say in the matter.
Well, I think some you are right on but...
1. If he was promised 6 years regardless of the outcome then that was stupid and more reason for Long to be shown the door...
2. 12-5 and we have beaten who?
3. Maybe...maybe not...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 13, 2016, 11:24:04 am
Quote from: AirWarren on November 13, 2016, 09:28:20 am
We fire Bret Bielema, Hello Derek Dooley types.

We will be set back another 4 years and the cycle continues.
I disagree...we are paying 4.1 million right now for a .500 program...we can get someone better. How about an up and coming young coach that is hungry and innovative? And doesn't run his mouth about how good he is when his record is .500...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 13, 2016, 11:26:00 am
Quote from: ricepig on November 13, 2016, 10:36:50 am
So, if anything good happened, he gets no credit, and all the bad was his fault?
I only care about Arkansas and for me, win he should get credit...lose he should get that also...Listen, like I said when I started this I said...if we lose one of the last two...if we lose both...wow...then what?
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 13, 2016, 11:27:05 am
Quote from: beach bum on November 13, 2016, 10:41:51 am
Simply pointing out he would have had zero Big Ten titles with the Big Ten a respectable conference again if he was at Wisconsin now... Ohio State and Michigan would be running for 350+ a game on Wisconsin instead of it happening at Arkansas now. BB runs his mouth so much about how tough his teams are.... I think he is getting humble pie these last two years.
+1
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 13, 2016, 12:13:20 pm
Quote from: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 13, 2016, 11:26:00 am
I only care about Arkansas and for me, win he should get credit...lose he should get that also...Listen, like I said when I started this I said...if we lose one of the last two...if we lose both...wow...then what?

Nothing, will he feel some heat, sure, but from the people I talk with he's here for two more years. If 2017 is a 4-6 win season, then sure, he could be let go after Jan 1st 2018 when the buyout goes to $7.9M.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: beach bum on November 13, 2016, 12:17:49 pm
Quote from: ricepig on November 13, 2016, 12:13:20 pm
Nothing, will he feel some heat, sure, but from the people I talk with he's here for two more years. If 2017 is a 4-6 win season, then sure, he could be let go after Jan 1st 2018 when the buyout goes to $7.9M.

BB should worship his agent for the rest of his life for robbing Arkansas with whoever agreed to that contract extension with numbers like that...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 13, 2016, 12:46:27 pm
Quote from: beach bum on November 13, 2016, 12:17:49 pm
BB should worship his agent for the rest of his life for robbing Arkansas with whoever agreed to that contract extension with numbers like that...

The AD, the Chancellor, and the RF board....and I guess the BOT.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on November 13, 2016, 01:10:03 pm
They aren't very smart business men
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 13, 2016, 01:13:47 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on November 13, 2016, 01:10:03 pm
They aren't very smart business men

I'll let you compare business "smarts" with them, lol.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on November 13, 2016, 04:09:15 pm
Anyone can see they aren't smart to sign that kind of buyout. Well, anyone but you
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 13, 2016, 04:16:55 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on November 13, 2016, 04:09:15 pm
Anyone can see they aren't smart to sign that kind of buyout. Well, anyone but you

Well, I guess you would have liked Muschamp or Smart then, because it was going to take a solid contract to attract a good proven head coach. But, of course, you know more than these guys do. If you promise your candidate 6 years, then it doesn't matter what the buyout is for the early years of it.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on November 13, 2016, 04:56:43 pm
So you think it was smart to extend the contract and buyout in the first two years?
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 13, 2016, 05:21:06 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on November 13, 2016, 04:56:43 pm
So you think it was smart to extend the contract and buyout in the first two years?
The two year extension is really the dumbest part of it all...and because they are a Chancellor or on the RF or BOT does not make them the smartest people in the world...

If CBB gets an extension after this season...well I guess they are all smarter than the rest of us... ::)
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 13, 2016, 05:39:02 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on November 13, 2016, 04:56:43 pm
So you think it was smart to extend the contract and buyout in the first two years?

I have no problem with it, 90% of coaches get years added to their contract. We went from 3-9 to 7-6 and were showing some stability. Yeah, give a coach less than 4 years and see how the recruiting goes, it's the business of P5 football. Again, when those that control the purse strings decide it's time for a change, they'll make one, when they think new contracts are needed, they'll give them. Some of you think that these people have no clue on what they're doing, fine, pony up and make your feelings known. Otherwise, we peons sit back and watch and cheer on our team.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 13, 2016, 05:40:03 pm
Quote from: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 13, 2016, 05:21:06 pm
The two year extension is really the dumbest part of it all...and because they are a Chancellor or on the RF or BOT does not make them the smartest people in the world...

If CBB gets an extension after this season...well I guess they are all smarter than the rest of us... ::)

Lol, being Coach Vinne on FF doesn't make you very smart either.....
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bleudog on November 13, 2016, 05:43:36 pm
http://www.masseyratings.com/team.php?t=316&s=286577
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: beach bum on November 13, 2016, 05:50:22 pm
I don't even want or think he needs fired. I think he deserves one more year and if we are 6-6 or 7-5 next year well it should mutually be time to go after 5 years.... Just simply stating the extension after 9-15 overall and 2-14 in the SEC was the worst decision on the planet. Just let him play out the original contract or actually EARN a deserved contract extension.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 13, 2016, 05:53:17 pm
Quote from: ricepig on November 13, 2016, 05:40:03 pm
Lol, being Coach Vinne on FF doesn't make you very smart either.....
Nor does being Rice on FF or Hogville make you smarter than them or me for that matter...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 13, 2016, 05:56:42 pm
Quote from: beach bum on November 13, 2016, 05:50:22 pm
I don't even want or think he needs fired. I think he deserves one more year and if we are 6-6 or 7-5 next year well it should mutually be time to go after 5 years.... Just simply stating the extension after 9-15 overall and 2-14 in the SEC was the worst decision on the planet. Just let him play out the original contract or actually EARN a deserved contract extension.
If we lose the last two...then somebody for sure needs to be thinking farther ahead...and if we lose one of the last two the red flag needs to fly up the pole...I for one am tired of mediocrity. We need to start thinking like Alabama, Clemson and Michigan...and quit thinking like SMU and Memphis...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on November 13, 2016, 05:56:43 pm
Quote from: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 13, 2016, 11:24:04 am
I disagree...we are paying 4.1 million right now for a .500 program...we can get someone better. How about an up and coming young coach that is hungry and innovative? And doesn't run his mouth about how good he is when his record is .500...

So what if we win 9 this year? Is that a .500 program? People have been clamoring for years they would cherish 9-10 win seasons. Now all the sudden we are supposed to be Bama, Florida, LSU?

I don't buy it. We aren't those program. We don't have a recruit base like those teams. And we never will.

Sign me up for a perennial 8-10 win team. With an occasional sugar run every 10-15 years. Call me mediocre. Call me settling, but In 31 years of my life, nothing has changed. I don't expect it to in my next 31. God willing.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 13, 2016, 05:59:28 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on November 13, 2016, 05:56:43 pm
So what if we win 9 this year? Is that a .500 program? People have been clamoring for years they would cherish 9-10 win seasons. Now all the sudden we are supposed to be Bama, Florida, LSU?

I don't buy it. We aren't those program. We don't have a recruit base like those teams. And we never will.
And AW that is exactly the problem...we don't think like big time programs. We used to be. Petrino had us on the verge...if we win 9 great! Then we are two games above .500 for his career...lol...and you are always during the games talking about how the Hogs are garbage...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on November 13, 2016, 06:00:09 pm
Quote from: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 13, 2016, 05:59:28 pm
And AW that is exactly the problem...we don't think like big time programs. We used to be. Petrino had us on the verge...if we win 9 great! Then we are two games above .500 for his career...lol...and you are always during the games talking about how the Hogs are garbage...

They are garbage. Been garbage for 31 years now! Haha

I added to that post. Ha
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: beach bum on November 13, 2016, 06:00:17 pm
Mississippi State and Ole Miss have been better programs than Arkansas the last 5 years and Mississippi has less population than Arkansas and they are splitting their DI talent between 2 schools.....
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on November 13, 2016, 06:10:49 pm
Quote from: beach bum on November 13, 2016, 06:00:17 pm
Mississippi State and Ole Miss have been better programs than Arkansas the last 5 years and Mississippi has less population than Arkansas and they are splitting their DI talent between 2 schools.....

Those kids are a lot closer to "home" when they go to those schools.

Fayetteville is no man's land.

Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Missco on November 13, 2016, 06:33:56 pm
They actually have Southern Miss also. It's easier to recruit at those schools.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bdubyab60 on November 13, 2016, 06:35:19 pm
Also been proven that OM is paying their players. Hard to recruit against that.

I think a lot of folks forget the mess this program was in the couple days after that motorcycle crash.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Missco on November 13, 2016, 06:44:24 pm
Heck, they all bend the rules in recruiting. Location hurt's as much as anything.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on November 13, 2016, 06:57:48 pm
Quote from: Missco on November 13, 2016, 06:44:24 pm
Heck, they all bend the rules in recruiting. Location hurt's as much as anything.

Draw a circle around the Mississippi schools and how close they are to prominent blue chip talent. Mississippi, puts out more 4-5 stars every year, by a landslide compared to Arkansas. Lsu has New Orleans and Baton Rouge. Mississippi has the Memphis area and Alabama next door including proximity to south LA. Alabama, doesn't need anything help. They are Alabama. Georgia has Atlanta. Tennessee is close to Atlanta, Alabama talent, and Nashville. Even talent rich Virginia and Ohio kids. Florida is Florida. Heck even South Carolina is close to talent rich cities. Fayetteville is basically Midwest. Areas not known for good football. Heck nearly every 7a-west 5 star has been a flop. Mitch mustain, Zeimba, Keihl Frazier, etc etc.

Draw a circle around Fayetteville and you have southwest Missouri, Branson, and Harrison. You could throw in the Tulsa area and okc.  Which I don't think we have had a talented Tulsa kid in a long time. We rely on Texas and Louisiana and an occasional south Florida kid. We have to make sure we cherry pick what's left over and we cannot pass up on kids like Kenneth Dixon, Damarea Crockett, etc. Crockett ran broke off a touchdown last weekend and looked good.

Call it settling. But I'm ok with 8-10 a year. We aren't and won't ever out recruit bama.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 13, 2016, 07:41:26 pm
Quote from: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 13, 2016, 05:53:17 pm
Nor does being Rice on FF or Hogville make you smarter than them or me for that matter...

Well, I have no doubt that I'm smarter than you. I know I don't have the info the people who make these decisions do. That's why I leave it up to them
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 13, 2016, 07:48:21 pm
Quote from: beach bum on November 13, 2016, 06:00:17 pm
Mississippi State and Ole Miss have been better programs than Arkansas the last 5 years and Mississippi has less population than Arkansas and they are splitting their DI talent between 2 schools.....


2016
The state of Arkansas   produced 3   recruits rated 4-5 stars and 25 recruits rated 3-5 stars
The state of Mississippi produced 11 recruits rated 4-5 stars and 67 recruits rated 3-5 stars

2015
The state of Arkansas   produced 5   recruits rated 4-5 stars and 36 recruits rated 3-5 stars
The state of Mississippi produced 9   recruits rated 4-5 stars and 62 recruits rated 3-5 stars

2014
The state of Arkansas   produced 2   recruits rated 4-5 stars and 14 recruits rated 3-5 stars
The state of Mississippi produced 9   recruits rated 4-5 stars and 61 recruits rated 3-5 stars

2013
The state of Arkansas   produced 3   recruits rated 4-5 stars and 12 recruits rated 3-5 stars
The state of Mississippi produced 10 recruits rated 4-5 stars and 59 recruits rated 3-5 stars

As a total you can see this-

THE TOTAL NUMBER OF 4-5 STAR RECRUITS PRODUCED IN THE 4 YEAR RECRUITING CYCLE
Arkansas -   13
Mississippi - 39

THE TOTAL NUMBER OF 3-5 STAR RECRUITS PRODUCED IN THE 4 YEAR RECRUITING CYCLE
Arkansas -     87
Mississippi - 249

The state of Mississippi produces 3 times as many upper level elite football athletes as the state of Arkansas
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: beach bum on November 13, 2016, 08:05:04 pm
Quote from: ricepig on November 13, 2016, 07:48:21 pm

2016
The state of Arkansas   produced 3   recruits rated 4-5 stars and 25 recruits rated 3-5 stars
The state of Mississippi produced 11 recruits rated 4-5 stars and 67 recruits rated 3-5 stars

2015
The state of Arkansas   produced 5   recruits rated 4-5 stars and 36 recruits rated 3-5 stars
The state of Mississippi produced 9   recruits rated 4-5 stars and 62 recruits rated 3-5 stars

2014
The state of Arkansas   produced 2   recruits rated 4-5 stars and 14 recruits rated 3-5 stars
The state of Mississippi produced 9   recruits rated 4-5 stars and 61 recruits rated 3-5 stars

2013
The state of Arkansas   produced 3   recruits rated 4-5 stars and 12 recruits rated 3-5 stars
The state of Mississippi produced 10 recruits rated 4-5 stars and 59 recruits rated 3-5 stars

As a total you can see this-

THE TOTAL NUMBER OF 4-5 STAR RECRUITS PRODUCED IN THE 4 YEAR RECRUITING CYCLE
Arkansas -   13
Mississippi - 39

THE TOTAL NUMBER OF 3-5 STAR RECRUITS PRODUCED IN THE 4 YEAR RECRUITING CYCLE
Arkansas -     87
Mississippi - 249

The state of Mississippi produces 3 times as many upper level elite football athletes as the state of Arkansas

Then why are they producing that many high level recruits with near equal population? Are you going to blame it on high school coaching in Arkansas? Because there has to be some reason to blame with the quality of play in Arkansas high school football then? Or is that just fine too like Arkansas Razorback football too? With numbers like that you are telling me something needs to drastically change with Arkansas football at the high school, junior high, and even younger level is what you are saying...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 13, 2016, 08:07:42 pm
Quote from: beach bum on November 13, 2016, 08:05:04 pm
Then why are they producing that many high level recruits with near equal population? Are you going to blame it on high school coaching in Arkansas? Because there has to be some reason to blame with the quality of play in Arkansas high school football then? Or is that just fine too like Arkansas Razorback football too?

Demographics my friend, surely you understand that. I'm just showing you the facts, you can determine your own reasons.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: beach bum on November 13, 2016, 08:09:25 pm
Quote from: ricepig on November 13, 2016, 08:07:42 pm
Demographics my friend, surely you understand that. I'm just showing you the facts, you can determine your own reasons.

The Patriots win without those demographics at the absolute highest level there is.... I imagine you are making this about racial demographics?
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 13, 2016, 08:14:23 pm
Quote from: beach bum on November 13, 2016, 08:09:25 pm
The Patriots win without those demographics at the absolute highest level there is.... I imagine you are making this about racial demographics?

They do? What's the makeup of the Patriots compared to the rest of the league, I have no idea.

As I said, I gave you the facts on the difference in recruiting and rankings between the two states. You can also add that Mississippi has a JUCO conference that gets a lot of players eligible to play D-I, were as we have D-II schools where they can't move up.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on November 13, 2016, 09:37:48 pm
Quote from: beach bum on November 13, 2016, 08:09:25 pm
The Patriots win without those demographics at the absolute highest level there is.... I imagine you are making this about racial demographics?


The black population is much higher in Mississippi. Not even comparable to where the Arkansas campus is.

Take a look at the NFL. Black athletes far outnumber white and Hispanic athletes.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Missco on November 13, 2016, 09:41:45 pm
Ricepig is spot on. In Mississippi the good coaches exist at all size school's throughout the state. The Delta of Mississippi and inner city school's get quality coaches. The U of A fit's better with the big 12. So does Missouri. Arkansas will never be a 11 or 12 win school ever.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on November 13, 2016, 09:44:54 pm
Quote from: beach bum on November 13, 2016, 08:05:04 pm
Then why are they producing that many high level recruits with near equal population? Are you going to blame it on high school coaching in Arkansas? Because there has to be some reason to blame with the quality of play in Arkansas high school football then? Or is that just fine too like Arkansas Razorback football too? With numbers like that you are telling me something needs to drastically change with Arkansas football at the high school, junior high, and even younger level is what you are saying...

Arkansas is roughly 80% white and 15% black. The state of Mississippi has a black population of around 37%. Both states have about 2.9 million people.

There is your athlete and blue chip discrepancy between the two states.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Lumberjackfan1978 on November 13, 2016, 10:25:28 pm
Quote from: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 13, 2016, 05:59:28 pm
And AW that is exactly the problem...we don't think like big time programs. We used to be. Petrino had us on the verge...if we win 9 great! Then we are two games above .500 for his career...lol...and you are always during the games talking about how the Hogs are garbage...
you said it PETRINO!!! Bingo
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bdubyab60 on November 14, 2016, 06:29:51 am
Quote from: Missco on November 13, 2016, 06:44:24 pm
Heck, they all bend the rules in recruiting. Location hurt's as much as anything.
I think OM goes past a bend
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: fastdrop on November 14, 2016, 07:14:12 am
hmmm

Iowa

Pittsburgh

might say they don't get the recruits either.

Lousiville might say a coach matters.

Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 14, 2016, 08:22:03 am
Quote from: AirWarren on November 13, 2016, 06:00:09 pm
They are garbage. Been garbage for 31 years now! Haha

I added to that post. Ha
Well at least you admit it...+1
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 14, 2016, 08:24:15 am
Quote from: AirWarren on November 13, 2016, 06:00:09 pm
They are garbage. Been garbage for 31 years now! Haha

I added to that post. Ha
lol...well at least you admit you said it...+1
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on November 14, 2016, 08:25:24 am
Quote from: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 14, 2016, 08:24:15 am
lol...well at least you admit you said it...+1

I always admit it ha!
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 14, 2016, 08:28:06 am
Quote from: ricepig on November 13, 2016, 07:41:26 pm
Well, I have no doubt that I'm smarter than you. I know I don't have the info the people who make these decisions do. That's why I leave it up to them
You think you are...but you are not by any stretch...as for the info, you don't have any info just like the rest of us...you have an opinion...just like the rest of us...and on many occasions you have been dead wrong, most recently on the women's basketball issue...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 14, 2016, 08:29:16 am
Let's just hope we win the last two...then it will settle itself...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on November 14, 2016, 08:34:07 am
Projecting.

Music city bowl.

Iowa vs Arkansas.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 14, 2016, 09:51:14 am
Quote from: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 14, 2016, 08:28:06 am
You think you are...but you are not by any stretch...as for the info, you don't have any info just like the rest of us...you have an opinion...just like the rest of us...and on many occasions you have been dead wrong, most recently on the women's basketball issue...

Lol, ok, whatever, you know it all. And this info, confirm it, name some names where it came from, or it's just your opinion, lol.

The only opinion I had on the women's basketball was that, while wrong, the administration had to stand up for the rights of the players. How do you think it would have played on national TV that the University of Arkansas was denying 6 AA their right to protest this way? It would have been much worse than the one news cycle this went.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 14, 2016, 09:52:28 am
Quote from: AirWarren on November 14, 2016, 08:34:07 am
Projecting.

Music city bowl.

Iowa vs Arkansas.

Looks good to me, I'll make the trip to Nashville. The other thought is the Belk Bowl in Charlotte, I doubt I'll go there.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 14, 2016, 09:54:50 am
Quote from: fastdrop on November 14, 2016, 07:14:12 am
hmmm

Iowa

Pittsburgh

might say they don't get the recruits either.

Lousiville might say a coach matters.

And you might say they are 6-4 like we are, one of them lost to a FCS school, lol.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Longfellow on November 14, 2016, 10:06:23 am
Quote from: ricepig on November 14, 2016, 09:54:50 am
And you might say they are 6-4 like we are, one of them lost to a FCS school, lol.
And another is 9-1, ranked in the top 5, and has the Heisman front runner at QB
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: LRRandy on November 14, 2016, 10:12:35 am
Quote from: ricepig on November 14, 2016, 09:54:50 am
And you might say they are 6-4 like we are, one of them lost to a FCS school, lol.
true, but they stepped up and beat top ranked teams. So there's that.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 14, 2016, 10:58:21 am
Quote from: LRRandy on November 14, 2016, 10:12:35 am
true, but they stepped up and beat top ranked teams. So there's that.

And we beat teams that were ranked, lol. If I had posted about wins over ranked teams, or "close" losses, I'd catch it from the realists. So, we define a season over one win, the others don't matter? I predicted 8-4 before the season started, and I think we have a good shot at getting there. This wasn't going to be a stellar season, anyone that thought that was in lala land.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on November 14, 2016, 11:30:58 am
Quote from: Longfellow on November 14, 2016, 10:06:23 am
And another is 9-1, ranked in the top 5, and has the Heisman front runner at QB

And will get drummed by a real team come playoff time.

Be sugar bowl all over again.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Longfellow on November 14, 2016, 12:02:41 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on November 14, 2016, 11:30:58 am
And will get drummed by a real team come playoff time.

Be sugar bowl all over again.
You mean the 2013 Sugar Bowl, in which we laid the wood on the mighty Florida Gators of the SEC? A three TD lead before they got a garbage time score. That was a great Sugar Bowl. I hope we get an SEC team in a bowl. It would almost be worth being 6-4 if we could get Arkansas in a bowl game. Lamar Jackson would break every record in the book on that sorry excuse for a defense
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: VHSCoach2 on November 14, 2016, 01:36:47 pm
Quote from: ricepig on November 14, 2016, 09:54:50 am
And you might say they are 6-4 like we are, one of them lost to a FCS school, lol.

In all fairness to Iowa, it is very likely that the Razorbacks would have lost to North Dakota State recently, too.

Not saying they definitely would, and I certainly hope they wouldn't, but they probably would have.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 14, 2016, 01:41:02 pm
Quote from: VHSCoach2 on November 14, 2016, 01:36:47 pm
In all fairness to Iowa, it is very likely that the Razorbacks would have lost to North Dakota State recently, too.

Not saying they definitely would, and I certainly hope they wouldn't, but they probably would have.

No way of knowing, I guess they would have beaten TCU, Florida, and Ole Miss, too.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: VHSCoach2 on November 14, 2016, 01:43:47 pm
Quote from: ricepig on November 14, 2016, 01:41:02 pm
No way of knowing, I guess they would have beaten TCU, Florida, and Ole Miss, too.

I wouldn't doubt it one bit.  NDSU has strung a very impressive record of victories against FBS opponents.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 14, 2016, 02:11:42 pm
Quote from: ricepig on November 14, 2016, 09:51:14 am
Lol, ok, whatever, you know it all. And this info, confirm it, name some names where it came from, or it's just your opinion, lol.

The only opinion I had on the women's basketball was that, while wrong, the administration had to stand up for the rights of the players. How do you think it would have played on national TV that the University of Arkansas was denying 6 AA their right to protest this way? It would have been much worse than the one news cycle this went.
lol...what? I never said I knew anything. I said it was my opinion...sheeeezzz Rice. Just because everyone on here doesn't agree with everything you say it's no reason to get your panties in a wad.
And the womens basketball incident was settled...they are not kneeling anymore. I told you who my source was. Go back and read it... That wasn't opinion that was what I was told and it was confirmed by many newspapers and news outlets. Donors got upset and Dykes took care of it. I also posted the code of conduct as you requested. Sorry you were wrong man, it isn't the end of the world. Fact is you have been wrong many times, as have all of us...

But you are right...you are the smartest person on this board, everything you say (even if it turns out to be wrong) we should just take it for the gospel and run with it...sooooooo, give us the inside scoop on everything Razorback Rice...we are all awaiting while holding our breath...

Just a piece of advice...just because you are on Hogville and listen to what they say doesn't make it right either. I am on Hogville too and those guys on there are ten times worse than the folks on here about having sources and people in the know...lol...they are wrong 99% of the time... ;)
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 14, 2016, 02:14:48 pm
Quote from: ricepig on November 14, 2016, 01:41:02 pm
No way of knowing, I guess they would have beaten TCU, Florida, and Ole Miss, too.
Alot of teams could and would beat TCU, Florida and Ole Miss...they are very average...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 14, 2016, 02:16:50 pm
Quote from: Longfellow on November 14, 2016, 12:02:41 pm
You mean the 2013 Sugar Bowl, in which we laid the wood on the mighty Florida Gators of the SEC? A three TD lead before they got a garbage time score. That was a great Sugar Bowl. I hope we get an SEC team in a bowl. It would almost be worth being 6-4 if we could get Arkansas in a bowl game. Lamar Jackson would break every record in the book on that sorry excuse for a defense
UL would beat alot of teams...they would hammer most SEC teams with the exception of Bama...I sincerely hope Arkansas doesn't have to play Louisville while CBP is there...we will get severely out coached...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on November 14, 2016, 02:25:33 pm
Quote from: Longfellow on November 14, 2016, 12:02:41 pm
You mean the 2013 Sugar Bowl, in which we laid the wood on the mighty Florida Gators of the SEC? A three TD lead before they got a garbage time score. That was a great Sugar Bowl. I hope we get an SEC team in a bowl. It would almost be worth being 6-4 if we could get Arkansas in a bowl game. Lamar Jackson would break every record in the book on that sorry excuse for a defense

Huh?

Arkansas was not in the 2013 sugar bowl?

Bobby was also not at Louisville for that Louisville win.

My point was, as good as BP was, he can't win the big game either.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 14, 2016, 03:38:57 pm
Quote from: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 14, 2016, 02:11:42 pm
lol...what? I never said I knew anything. I said it was my opinion...sheeeezzz Rice. Just because everyone on here doesn't agree with everything you say it's no reason to get your panties in a wad.
And the womens basketball incident was settled...they are not kneeling anymore. I told you who my source was. Go back and read it... That wasn't opinion that was what I was told and it was confirmed by many newspapers and news outlets. Donors got upset and Dykes took care of it. I also posted the code of conduct as you requested. Sorry you were wrong man, it isn't the end of the world. Fact is you have been wrong many times, as have all of us...

But you are right...you are the smartest person on this board, everything you say (even if it turns out to be wrong) we should just take it for the gospel and run with it...sooooooo, give us the inside scoop on everything Razorback Rice...we are all awaiting while holding our breath...

Just a piece of advice...just because you are on Hogville and listen to what they say doesn't make it right either. I am on Hogville too and those guys on there are ten times worse than the folks on here about having sources and people in the know...lol...they are wrong 99% of the time... ;)

You seem to take everything a little too serious, and you never mentioned a name, a well place "sourrce in the AD's" office doesn't mean anything, lol. Everyone and their brother knew they weren't going to continue to kneel.

I'm not sure how you think being on HV means anything, info from there is about as reliable as listening to you, wasted time. I have some friends/relatives that are involved with the University and the RF board, what little I get derives from them.

I can tell you that Bret is here for 6 years, that was established up front when he came here, after that, who knows.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: LRRandy on November 14, 2016, 04:34:02 pm
Quote from: ricepig on November 14, 2016, 10:58:21 am
And we beat teams that were ranked, lol. If I had posted about wins over ranked teams, or "close" losses, I'd catch it from the realists. So, we define a season over one win, the others don't matter? I predicted 8-4 before the season started, and I think we have a good shot at getting there. This wasn't going to be a stellar season, anyone that thought that was in lala land.
read the post. Top ranked teams. Here.   I'll.    type.   Slower.   For.    You.  Top. Ranked. Teams. You pointed out the similar records. I pointed out victory over top ranked teams. No, one win does not define a season but it can be a point of difference when comparing also rans. Some teams can step up and win a big game from time to time. I'm happy for you and your prediction. You shoukd be proud. 8 wins. Yawn.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 14, 2016, 04:46:11 pm
Quote from: LRRandy on November 14, 2016, 04:34:02 pm
read the post. Top ranked teams. Here.   I'll.    type.   Slower.   For.    You.  Top. Ranked. Teams. You pointed out the similar records. I pointed out victory over top ranked teams. No, one win does not define a season but it can be a point of difference when comparing also rans. Some teams can step up and win a big game from time to time. I'm happy for you and your prediction. You shoukd be proud. 8 wins. Yawn.

Oh, so the rankings are final and never change, I didn't realize that. And really, outside of who finishes #1, it doesn't matter, right?

We were replacing 3 OL, 2 RB's, and our QB, 8 wins seemed appropriate.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: LRRandy on November 14, 2016, 05:49:23 pm
Quote from: ricepig on November 14, 2016, 04:46:11 pm
Oh, so the rankings are final and never change, I didn't realize that. And really, outside of who finishes #1, it doesn't matter, right?

We were replacing 3 OL, 2 RB's, and our QB, 8 wins seemed appropriate.
master of answering your own question. I'll bet you're a hoot at the coffee shop (I was going to say parties, but Imma guess you don't get invited to many of those). Of course rankings change. You were pointing out 6-4 same as Hogs. Hogs don't have a victory against a top ranked team. For a while now. So not really the same 6-4. That was my point.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 14, 2016, 05:49:57 pm
Quote from: ricepig on November 14, 2016, 03:38:57 pm
You seem to take everything a little too serious, and you never mentioned a name, a well place "sourrce in the AD's" office doesn't mean anything, lol. Everyone and their brother knew they weren't going to continue to kneel.

I'm not sure how you think being on HV means anything, info from there is about as reliable as listening to you, wasted time. I have some friends/relatives that are involved with the University and the RF board, what little I get derives from them.

I can tell you that Bret is here for 6 years, that was established up front when he came here, after that, who knows.
I am not going to mention a name...lol..."Thanks for the info John Doe, now I am going to post it on FF and mention your name"...lol...you are smarter than that Rice...so mention your source's names...and no, nobody knew they wasn't going to kneel until the boosters started complaining...when that happened it stopped...and I never said CBB wasn't going to be here, I said if he continues to be average he should not be here...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 14, 2016, 05:55:17 pm
Quote from: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 14, 2016, 05:49:57 pm
I am not going to mention a name...lol..."Thanks for the info John Doe, now I am going to post it on FF and mention your name"...lol...you are smarter than that Rice...so mention your source's names...and no, nobody knew they wasn't going to kneel until the boosters started complaining...when that happened it stopped...and I never said CBB wasn't going to be here, I said if he continues to be average he should not be here...

Oh, so we should trust you and your sources, but not some others with sources, lol. No, no one said publicly they weren't going to stop the kneeling, I would bet the farm that that decision was made before the 10am the next morning.

Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 14, 2016, 05:56:17 pm
Quote from: ricepig on November 14, 2016, 04:46:11 pm
Oh, so the rankings are final and never change, I didn't realize that. And really, outside of who finishes #1, it doesn't matter, right?

We were replacing 3 OL, 2 RB's, and our QB, 8 wins seemed appropriate.
And we will replace players next year...so will that be the excuse then also? Bama replaced several and are starting a true Freshman QB...I don't hear Saban making any excuses, and while we are talking Saban...Saban is ten times the coach BB is...and he never brags and runs his mouth about how good he is or his teams are. He just wins...you don't hear Dabbo Sweeney doing that either...Kevin Sumlin, Pete Carroll, Jimmie Johnson...CBB needs to shut his mouth and concentrate on recruiting and winning...end of story...and by the way...AA has done as good of or better than BA did...so no excuse there...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 14, 2016, 05:59:31 pm
Quote from: ricepig on November 14, 2016, 05:55:17 pm
Oh, so we should trust you and your sources, but not some others with sources, lol. No, no one said publicly they weren't going to stop the kneeling, I would bet the farm that that decision was made before the 10am the next morning.


And we should trust yours? Mine is not that solid...I even said so on that conversation...just what I was told. I don't know any other way to explain it to you...

Bet the farm all you want, nothing happened until the boosters started calling...you can't prove otherwise...however you are entitled to your opinion...and who knows, you might have GUESSED right...lol...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 14, 2016, 06:05:31 pm
Quote from: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 14, 2016, 05:56:17 pm
And we will replace players next year...so will that be the excuse then also? Bama replaced several and are starting a true Freshman QB...I don't hear Saban making any excuses, and while we are talking Saban...Saban is ten times the coach BB is...and he never brags and runs his mouth about how good he is or his teams are. He just wins...you don't hear Dabbo Sweeney doing that either...Kevin Sumlin, Pete Carroll, Jimmie Johnson...CBB needs to shut his mouth and concentrate on recruiting and winning...end of story...and by the way...AA has done as good of or better than BA did...so no excuse there...

Uh, I don't think anyone is debating about Saban and Bielema, and last time I checked, no one was comparing those two programs, lol. If you think Arkansas is going to recruit on the same level as Bama or Clemson, then I feel sorry for you.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 14, 2016, 06:11:02 pm
Quote from: LRRandy on November 14, 2016, 05:49:23 pm
master of answering your own question. I'll bet you're a hoot at the coffee shop (I was going to say parties, but Imma guess you don't get invited to many of those). Of course rankings change. You were pointing out 6-4 same as Hogs. Hogs don't have a victory against a top ranked team. For a while now. So not really the same 6-4. That was my point.

Why don't you point out their losses, and where those teams are ranked, it would seem relevant.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 14, 2016, 06:19:59 pm
Quote from: ricepig on November 14, 2016, 06:05:31 pm
Uh, I don't think anyone is debating about Saban and Bielema, and last time I checked, no one was comparing those two programs, lol. If you think Arkansas is going to recruit on the same level as Bama or Clemson, then I feel sorry for you.
Bama maybe not...but they did struggle at one point...But Clemson, funny you should bring that up...In the Danny Ford and Ken Hatfield era they had some good teams and had 1 NC under Ford...after that between Tommy West (31-28  .526) and Tommy Bowden (72-45  .615) for a combined (103-73  .585) they struggled until Dabo Swinney showed up. Why did they get better? Hmmmm, they got a good coach...wow...Clemson is no better school than Arkansas. Facilities no better, no richer boosters than Arkansas has...and they compete with more D-1 programs in state than Arkansas does...Dabo makes 5.1 million and CBB makes 4.1...really not that much of a stretch. If CBB was recruiting and winning as well as Dabo, he would be making 5.1...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 14, 2016, 06:29:00 pm
Quote from: ricepig on November 14, 2016, 06:11:02 pm
Why don't you point out their losses, and where those teams are ranked, it would seem relevant.
Why don't you point out Arkansas wins and where they are ranked?
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: LRRandy on November 14, 2016, 06:32:10 pm
Quote from: ricepig on November 14, 2016, 06:11:02 pm
Why don't you point out their losses, and where those teams are ranked, it would seem relevant.
because I was simply rebutting your contention that 6-4 is the same. Pitt actually has 2 wins against top 10 teams. Huh. Not the same.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 14, 2016, 06:51:57 pm
Quote from: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 14, 2016, 06:19:59 pm
Bama maybe not...but they did struggle at one point...But Clemson, funny you should bring that up...In the Danny Ford and Ken Hatfield era they had some good teams and had 1 NC under Ford...after that between Tommy West (31-28  .526) and Tommy Bowden (72-45  .615) for a combined (103-73  .585) they struggled until Dabo Swinney showed up. Why did they get better? Hmmmm, they got a good coach...wow...Clemson is no better school than Arkansas. Facilities no better, no richer boosters than Arkansas has...and they compete with more D-1 programs in state than Arkansas does...Dabo makes 5.1 million and CBB makes 4.1...really not that much of a stretch. If CBB was recruiting and winning as well as Dabo, he would be making 5.1...

Clemson is lot closer to talent, draw a 300 mile circle around the two cities, so yeah, not the same. It took Dabo until his 5th year to be considered, successful at Clemson, so I guess put you down for one more year, lol.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 14, 2016, 06:54:07 pm
Quote from: LRRandy on November 14, 2016, 06:32:10 pm
because I was simply rebutting your contention that 6-4 is the same. Pitt actually has 2 wins against top 10 teams. Huh. Not the same.

Well, until teams play the same schedule, you can't honestly compare wins or losses.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: LRRandy on November 14, 2016, 07:03:28 pm
Quote from: ricepig on November 14, 2016, 06:54:07 pm
Well, until teams play the same schedule, you can't honestly compare wins or losses.
ok. So according to you, beating Alcorn State and TCU is the same as beating Penn. St. and Clemson? I can tell the difference there. Can you not? The whole strength of schedule badge razorback nation has worn the last few years means nothing according to you because you can't honestly compare wins and losses if they don't play the same schedule. How's the air up there. The rest of us live in a little more realistic realm.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 14, 2016, 07:09:09 pm
Quote from: LRRandy on November 14, 2016, 07:03:28 pm
ok. So according to you, beating Alcorn State and TCU is the same as beating Penn. St. and Clemson? I can tell the difference there. Can you not? The whole strength of schedule badge razorback nation has worn the last few years means nothing according to you because you can't honestly compare wins and losses if they don't play the same schedule. How's the air up there. The rest of us live in a little more realistic realm.

Look at the ACC Atlantic division and tell me it's as tough as the SECw and compare the teams that have been ranked during the year. Also, nice straw man on picking out which two teams to base your comparison on.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: LRRandy on November 14, 2016, 07:15:56 pm
Quote from: ricepig on November 14, 2016, 07:09:09 pm
Look at the ACC Atlantic division and tell me it's as tough as the SECw and compare the teams that have been ranked during the year. Also, nice straw man on picking out which two teams to base your comparison on.
ok. What are Arkansas two best wins? Florida and Oe Miss. Probably. Still not the same. I can still tell. Yeah the gauntlet is not quite as fierce as it used to be. Ole Miss might not even go to a bowl. Being ranked during the year is proving not to mean much with the way sec teams drop out of the ranking.  You gonna give a lot of weight to the TCU win. In hindsight it's not that impressive,  is it?
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 14, 2016, 07:20:04 pm
Quote from: LRRandy on November 14, 2016, 07:15:56 pm
ok. What are Arkansas two best wins? Florida and Oe Miss. Probably. Still not the same. I can still tell. Yeah the gauntlet is not quite as fierce as it used to be. Ole Miss might not even go to a bowl. Being ranked during the year is proving not to mean much with the way sec teams drop out of the ranking.  You gonna give a lot of weight to the TCU win. In hindsight it's not that impressive,  is it?

They were ranked when we beat them, lol. Let's see where PSU is ranked when it's all over, far enough? I guess since they beat the mighty Buckeyes, they must be world beaters.....
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: nastynice on November 14, 2016, 07:22:47 pm
Is BB a .500 coach or are we just a .500 school?  Sometimes you got to be honest with yourself.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: LRRandy on November 14, 2016, 07:45:46 pm
Quote from: ricepig on November 14, 2016, 07:20:04 pm
They were ranked when we beat them, lol. Let's see where PSU is ranked when it's all over, far enough? I guess since they beat the mighty Buckeyes, they must be world beaters.....
not world beaters. Lucky sumbiches. 😀 Although luck does play into it. Ya gotta do what it takes to finish. No excuses. Dude you got me off track with all the mighty Buckeye stuff.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on November 14, 2016, 08:13:05 pm
Quote from: nastynice on November 14, 2016, 07:22:47 pm
Is BB a .500 coach or are we just a .500 school?  Sometimes you got to be honest with yourself.

They don't want to know the truth. We suffer from bigger in our own eyes syndrome.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 14, 2016, 08:15:41 pm
Quote from: ricepig on November 14, 2016, 06:51:57 pm
Clemson is lot closer to talent, draw a 300 mile circle around the two cities, so yeah, not the same. It took Dabo until his 5th year to be considered, successful at Clemson, so I guess put you down for one more year, lol.
And they share it with alot more schools, most notably South Carolina...and DS finished first in his division twice in his first two years...and let's also point out that this was his FIRST HC job...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: LRRandy on November 14, 2016, 08:48:43 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on November 14, 2016, 08:13:05 pm
They don't want to know the truth. We suffer from bigger in our own eyes syndrome.
"oh Lord it's hard to be humble, when you're an Arkansas Razorback fan." Fun to sing. Hard to back up.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 14, 2016, 09:14:05 pm
Quote from: LRRandy on November 14, 2016, 08:48:43 pm
"oh Lord it's hard to be humble, when you're an Arkansas Razorback fan." Fun to sing. Hard to back up.

Don't you have a Michigan board to troll?
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 14, 2016, 09:16:45 pm
Quote from: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 14, 2016, 08:15:41 pm
And they share it with alot more schools, most notably South Carolina...and DS finished first in his division twice in his first two years...and let's also point out that this was his FIRST HC job...

Well, sounds like you have a new team to support, lol.

He actually finished 4th his second year with a losing record.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dabo_Swinney
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 14, 2016, 09:34:07 pm
Quote from: ricepig on November 14, 2016, 09:16:45 pm
Well, sounds like you have a new team to support, lol.

He actually finished 4th his second year with a losing record.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dabo_Swinney

Yeah I know...still better than CBB...lol...thanks for proving my point!
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 14, 2016, 09:39:04 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on November 14, 2016, 08:13:05 pm
They don't want to know the truth. We suffer from bigger in our own eyes syndrome.
Nope...we shouldn't be a .500 school...CBP proved that...Hatfield proved that...Holtz proved that...heck even Nutt was well above .500...Now Danny Ford...lol...I will give you that one...CBB=Danny Ford...sorry, but the truth hurts...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: LRRandy on November 14, 2016, 10:52:49 pm
Quote from: ricepig on November 14, 2016, 09:14:05 pm
Don't you have a Michigan board to troll?
yeah, they love me there too.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 15, 2016, 07:10:33 am
Quote from: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 14, 2016, 09:39:04 pm
Nope...we shouldn't be a .500 school...CBP proved that...Hatfield proved that...Holtz proved that...heck even Nutt was well above .500...Now Danny Ford...lol...I will give you that one...CBB=Danny Ford...sorry, but the truth hurts...

What happened in the old SWC isn't relevant. Anyway, 2 more years at a minimum, all your crying won't change it. BP caused his own demise, we'll see if we ever find another one.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Valleysports on November 15, 2016, 08:06:22 am
Give Bielema his 6 yrs, he's a character, lot of fun.  He's peaked at Arkansas though - in over his head in the SEC West.  Maybe our kids need more fundamental coaching coming into college, in the South.  Seems to be lacking more than usual.

We need to start a running thread on what Bielema say's to motivate the opponent. Haha   LSU Linebacker said that their defense got totally fired up over, Bielema stating that Arkansas is a more physical team than LSU.

Senior Class - DE's, WR's, Skipper, Ragnow?, Kicker, Punter - 14-16 starters?

Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 15, 2016, 09:57:07 am
Quote from: Valleysports on November 15, 2016, 08:06:22 am
Give Bielema his 6 yrs, he's a character, lot of fun.  He's peaked at Arkansas though - in over his head in the SEC West.  Maybe our kids need more fundamental coaching coming into college, in the South.  Seems to be lacking more than usual.

We need to start a running thread on what Bielema say's to motivate the opponent. Haha   LSU Linebacker said that their defense got totally fired up over, Bielema stating that Arkansas is a more physical team than LSU.

Senior Class - DE's, WR's, Skipper, Ragnow?, Kicker, Punter - 14-16 starters?

Looks like 4 starters on offense are Sr's, but Ragnow could possibly go early, with 5 on defense.


https://twitter.com/RazorbackFB/status/798200543512399873
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 15, 2016, 10:41:54 am
Quote from: Valleysports on November 15, 2016, 08:06:22 am
Give Bielema his 6 yrs, he's a character, lot of fun.  He's peaked at Arkansas though - in over his head in the SEC West.  Maybe our kids need more fundamental coaching coming into college, in the South.  Seems to be lacking more than usual.

We need to start a running thread on what Bielema say's to motivate the opponent. Haha   LSU Linebacker said that their defense got totally fired up over, Bielema stating that Arkansas is a more physical team than LSU.

Senior Class - DE's, WR's, Skipper, Ragnow?, Kicker, Punter - 14-16 starters?


lol...I'm sure everyone wants Arkansas to keep CBB...why shouldn't they? And yes, Ole CBB running his flap and can't back it up...Sheeeeeeezzzzz...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 15, 2016, 10:43:08 am
Quote from: ricepig on November 15, 2016, 07:10:33 am
What happened in the old SWC isn't relevant. Anyway, 2 more years at a minimum, all your crying won't change it. BP caused his own demise, we'll see if we ever find another one.
Not crying at all, just pointing out the FACT that your boy isn't nothing more than average...but you keep clinging to his jock strap...maybe you can get a sideline pass...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 15, 2016, 11:04:09 am
Quote from: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 15, 2016, 10:43:08 am
Not crying at all, just pointing out the FACT that your boy isn't nothing more than average...but you keep clinging to his jock strap...maybe you can get a sideline pass...

I support the head coach at the University of Arkansas, I don't differentiate between the different ones. I've been going to games since 1967, we've been average way more than not, especially in the SEC.

As far as sideline passes, I've been there with Nutt, Petrino, and Bielema, again, it's not the coach. It helps to have former players as relatives and friends, haha.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: mack on November 15, 2016, 11:22:27 am
Quote from: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 15, 2016, 10:43:08 am
Not crying at all, just pointing out the FACT that your boy isn't nothing more than average...but you keep clinging to his jock strap...maybe you can get a sideline pass...

Venny, I'm just curious.  Have you ever liked an Arkansas coach?  I can't ever remember you liking any of them.  Curious as well as to why you think we should be on a par with Al, LSU etc,
When we never have been in modern times?
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 15, 2016, 11:29:40 am
Quote from: mack on November 15, 2016, 11:22:27 am
Venny, I'm just curious.  Have you ever liked an Arkansas coach?  I can't ever remember you liking any of them.  Curious as well as to why you think we should be on a par with Al, LSU etc,
When we never have been in modern times?
Yes, loved Lou Holtz...and Petrino. Like Kenny Hatfield. Couldn't stand Nutt because he was just a dork. Now, I am not a hater of CBB, I just wish he could either do one of the two...back up his mouth or shut it...and I don't expect us to be on par with Bama and LSU, but I expect us to be better than average...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 15, 2016, 11:34:42 am
If, at the end of year 6, 8 wins is the high water mark, then, it the PTB want a change, they'll make one.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on November 15, 2016, 11:36:38 am
31 years running of average. I don't suspect it will change.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 15, 2016, 11:39:23 am
Quote from: AirWarren on November 15, 2016, 11:36:38 am
31 years running of average. I don't suspect it will change.
That's not true...Ford was below average, Petrino was above average and Nutt was above average...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 15, 2016, 11:40:19 am
Quote from: ricepig on November 15, 2016, 11:34:42 am
If, at the end of year 6, 8 wins is the high water mark, then, it the PTB want a change, they'll make one.
Thank you so much for the in depth analysis...lol...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 15, 2016, 11:56:38 am
Quote from: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 15, 2016, 11:40:19 am
Thank you so much for the in depth analysis...lol...

Yeah, the truth is usually very short and sweet.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 15, 2016, 12:48:40 pm
Quote from: ricepig on November 15, 2016, 11:56:38 am
Yeah, the truth is usually very short and sweet.
lol...it very could be the truth...and that's sad...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 15, 2016, 04:50:30 pm
Quote from: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 15, 2016, 11:40:19 am
Thank you so much for the in depth analysis...lol...

Well, I feel certain he will get 6 years, unless we go 3-9 or worse next year, and even then, it's 65/35 he comes back. As to his record here to date, it's about as expected, some good wins, and some bad losses. This season has been the same, so if we win the last two, we'll be an improvement from last year. Our defense has been a big disappointment, and I expect  one or two of the defensive staff to hit the road, someone will need to pay for it, haha. Offensively, the o-line has caused the problems for both the running and passing game. We weren't that much better rushing last year, we really struggled against Bama and MSU, but did a better job of keeping BA upright. Now, BA was quicker to get rid of the ball than Austin is, and knowing when to throw it away. Austin has made some plays by holding it until the last second, but has paid the price. I think the last two games he has gotten rid of it a bit quicker, but often off target, compared to previous games.

What people I talk to who have a lot more say in the discussion of his job are happy, or at least not ready for any change. They know that we can't switch coaches every four years and expect to gain ground.

As I've previous said, I support the coach at my alma mater until it's quite obvious a change is needed, i.e. Nutt.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on November 15, 2016, 05:35:32 pm
He isn't here for at least 2 more. Maybe 3.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 18, 2016, 09:48:02 am
Quote from: Longfellow on November 14, 2016, 10:06:23 am
And another is 9-1, ranked in the top 5, and has the Heisman front runner at QB

Yes, Houston has a good coach, but they aren't in the top 5.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 19, 2016, 09:19:19 am
Quote from: ricepig on November 18, 2016, 09:48:02 am
Yes, Houston has a good coach, but they aren't in the top 5.
Boy UL looked like the ole deer in the headlights...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bdubyab60 on November 19, 2016, 06:13:22 pm
Wow look at that another QB touchdown. Seriously he's like the one thing they have
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Longfellow on November 19, 2016, 07:05:43 pm
Oh yeah, all they have.
Devonte Fields - possible 1st Rd DE
Josh Harvey-Clemons - top 10 safety
Cole Hikutini - 7th ranked TE
Keith Kelsey - top 10 LB

Only lose 1 skill player from a top 10 offense after this year (plays RB). The Cardinals will be fine for the next few years, unlike the SEC power that is the Arkansas Razorbacks
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bdubyab60 on November 19, 2016, 07:11:42 pm
When we cue on the QB and stop him we have stopped them each time. He's their main weapon don't give me all this crap about draft picks. Who has their TD's
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on November 19, 2016, 07:31:40 pm
Williams is like a man possessed.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bdubyab60 on November 19, 2016, 07:34:16 pm
Setting his blocks up well. Breaking a few tackles. Having a huge game
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bdubyab60 on November 19, 2016, 07:35:05 pm
Quote from: Longfellow on November 19, 2016, 07:05:43 pm
Oh yeah, all they have.
Devonte Fields - possible 1st Rd DE
Josh Harvey-Clemons - top 10 safety
Cole Hikutini - 7th ranked TE
Keith Kelsey - top 10 LB

Only lose 1 skill player from a top 10 offense after this year (plays RB). The Cardinals will be fine for the next few years, unlike the SEC power that is the Arkansas Razorbacks
By the way I'm talking Mstate not Lou
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: beach bum on November 19, 2016, 08:06:14 pm
We found a defense worse than us.... And Williams III is headed for another SEC player of the week unless somebody went bonkers elsewhere.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on November 19, 2016, 10:01:10 pm
Defense is bad. I think we need to change DC.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 19, 2016, 10:01:59 pm
Quote from: bdubyab60 on November 19, 2016, 07:35:05 pm
By the way I'm talking Mstate not Lou


He's lost, he wishes UL was in the SEC....
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 19, 2016, 10:03:04 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on November 19, 2016, 10:01:10 pm
Defense is bad. I think we need to change DC.

We are.

Maybe DL coach, too.


https://twitter.com/TreyBiddy/status/800181933896404993
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on November 19, 2016, 10:09:14 pm
Quote from: ricepig on November 19, 2016, 10:03:04 pm
We are.

Maybe DL coach, too.


https://twitter.com/TreyBiddy/status/800181933896404993


Just read that. One thing about Bielema, he says what's on his mind.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: LRRandy on November 20, 2016, 08:01:19 am
If the "every other game is bad" tone of the season continues, Arkansas will lose to Mizzou this week.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on November 20, 2016, 09:29:40 am
Quote from: LRRandy on November 20, 2016, 08:01:19 am
If the "every other game is bad" tone of the season continues, Arkansas will lose to Mizzou this week.

Consistency isn't our strong suit this year.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: LRRandy on November 20, 2016, 10:02:40 am
Quote from: AirWarren on November 20, 2016, 09:29:40 am
Consistency isn't our strong suit this year.
when they are good they look top 10 good. When they are bad they look really, really bad.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 20, 2016, 10:30:06 am
Quote from: AirWarren on November 19, 2016, 10:09:14 pm
Just read that. One thing about Bielema, he says what's on his mind.
Yep, right or wrong...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 20, 2016, 10:34:20 am
Quote from: LRRandy on November 20, 2016, 10:02:40 am
when they are good they look top 10 good. When they are bad they look really, really bad.

Well, I think that could be said of 126 out of the 128 D-I teams, haha.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bdubyab60 on November 20, 2016, 12:23:03 pm
Quote from: LRRandy on November 20, 2016, 08:01:19 am
If the "every other game is bad" tone of the season continues, Arkansas will lose to Mizzou this week.
This one was only good because we won. Defense still played horrible, except for second quarter. I'm expecting the same next week. Mizzou put up decent numbers on TN.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Valleysports on November 20, 2016, 12:54:36 pm
I expect Missouri vs Arkansas to be about like this game, bunch of scoring.  Poor defensive performance yesterday by the Hogs.   
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 20, 2016, 01:00:05 pm
Quote from: bdubyab60 on November 20, 2016, 12:23:03 pm
This one was only good because we won. Defense still played horrible, except for second quarter. I'm expecting the same next week. Mizzou put up decent numbers on TN.

And lost by 26, I'll take that.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 20, 2016, 01:01:29 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on November 20, 2016, 12:54:36 pm
I expect Missouri vs Arkansas to be about like this game, bunch of scoring.  Poor defensive performance yesterday by the Hogs.

How do you think the Bulldog fans feel today, or aTm.....
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Valleysports on November 20, 2016, 01:06:15 pm
Miss St - like they lost a game because their defense was worse than Arkansas?  A&M - did they lose again?  I'm sure they're  feeling excited about Texas losing, but wish their QB was healthy.   

How do you feel today?  Wondering how Bieliema was able to coach his team to such a great turnaround?  I've got to go post that on HV!   :D
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 20, 2016, 01:18:02 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on November 20, 2016, 01:06:15 pm
Miss St - like they lost a game because their defense was worse than Arkansas?  A&M - did they lose again?  I'm sure they're  feeling excited about Texas losing, but wish their QB was healthy.   

How do you feel today?  Wondering how Bieliema was able to coach his team to such a great turnaround?  I've got to go post that on HV!   :D

No, aTm was wondering why the couldn't beat such a sorry MSU defense when they have an offense of 4* and 5*......

I'm still suffering a little from allergies, but thanks for asking.  ;D  That, and a little tired, 18 yesterday morning, and 24 this morning.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Valleysports on November 20, 2016, 01:33:04 pm
Oh yes I was wondering the same thing about why A&M only scored like 28 points on MSU.  But wasn't the Miss St game where A&M's QB was injured in the 1st or 2nd qtr.?  I mean they've rarely scored since.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 20, 2016, 01:43:26 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on November 20, 2016, 01:33:04 pm
Oh yes I was wondering the same thing about why A&M only scored like 28 points on MSU.  But wasn't the Miss St game where A&M's QB was injured in the 1st or 2nd qtr.?  I mean they've rarely scored since.

Well, they were down 28-7 before the engine in the bus had cooled down, lol. They'll be looking for a new coach if they lose to LSU, can you imagine it, both UT and aTm looking to make Tom Herman the richest coach in college football?
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bdubyab60 on November 20, 2016, 02:19:42 pm
Quote from: ricepig on November 20, 2016, 01:00:05 pm
And lost by 26, I'll take that.
Me too.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 20, 2016, 02:42:51 pm
Quote from: bdubyab60 on November 20, 2016, 02:19:42 pm
Me too.

We open 7.5 pts favorites, throw in the 3 pts for home field advantage, we should win by 10ish. I'll take a 1pt win and not make the trip, haha.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Ventman on November 20, 2016, 03:03:15 pm
There was no defense in the MS St game but I do like to see a lot of scoring. Wonder how the Hogs will next year?
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bdubyab60 on November 20, 2016, 06:40:01 pm
Quote from: ricepig on November 20, 2016, 02:42:51 pm
We open 7.5 pts favorites, throw in the 3 pts for home field advantage, we should win by 10ish. I'll take a 1pt win and not make the trip, haha.
Isnt that 7.5 calculated with home field already in mind lol
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 20, 2016, 06:54:34 pm
Quote from: bdubyab60 on November 20, 2016, 06:40:01 pm
Isnt that 7.5 calculated with home field already in mind lol

Uh, yeah, I believe it is, haha.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: beach bum on November 20, 2016, 07:00:34 pm
Arkansas 52 Mizzou 28
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bleudog on November 20, 2016, 08:31:30 pm
http://www.masseyratings.com/team.php?t=316&s=286577
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Valleysports on November 21, 2016, 06:54:19 am
Quote from: beach bum on November 20, 2016, 07:00:34 pm
Arkansas 52 Mizzou 28

Because Arkansas's defense is better than Mizzou's?
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bdubyab60 on November 21, 2016, 05:51:48 pm
"These seniors have won the most important championship. That's the championship of life."

Butch Jones head coach, Tennessee Volunteers

Yep he said that
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: mack on November 21, 2016, 07:31:45 pm
We ein two more and we're 9-4.  How many of you predicted 9 wins?
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: HorseFeathers on November 21, 2016, 07:49:36 pm
Quote from: mack on November 21, 2016, 07:31:45 pm
We ein two more and we're 9-4.  How many of you predicted 9 wins?

I predicted 8-4, but don't think I posted that in here though
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 21, 2016, 08:01:57 pm
Quote from: mack on November 21, 2016, 07:31:45 pm
We ein two more and we're 9-4.  How many of you predicted 9 wins?
Well, I just had 8 regular season wins, it's a given we win the bowl game under Bielema.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: LRRandy on November 21, 2016, 08:05:52 pm
Quote from: mack on November 21, 2016, 07:31:45 pm
We ein two more and we're 9-4.  How many of you predicted 9 wins?
I predicted 7-5. Ain't nobody won 9 games yet. I thought ( before the season) that they would lose to either TCU or Florida. They won both. Unless they lose to Missouri they will exceed my expectations. One win more is not sexy but it is progress. The early season failings of the past few years turned into uneven play through out the season  looking like world beaters one week and Matadors the next. Bert is a good football coach. One win at a time will have the Hogs in Atlanta in 3 more years.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on November 21, 2016, 08:50:52 pm
Quote from: mack on November 21, 2016, 07:31:45 pm
We ein two more and we're 9-4.  How many of you predicted 9 wins?

I predicted 9-10
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bdubyab60 on November 21, 2016, 10:35:47 pm
Missouri LB says it would be a mistake for the Hogs to even show up. Lol
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bleudog on November 21, 2016, 11:13:31 pm
http://katv.com/sports/hog-central/fmr-lr-christian-star-mizzou-freshman-rb-arrested-on-pot-charge-suspended-vs-hogs
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Valleysports on November 22, 2016, 08:32:48 am
It's just been incredible, what a turnaround.   ;D.  If we could schedule 6 nonconference games, we wouldn't even have to beat Ole Miss, Miss State, or an east cross over.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 22, 2016, 09:50:30 am
Quote from: Valleysports on November 22, 2016, 08:32:48 am
It's just been incredible, what a turnaround.   ;D.  If we could schedule 6 nonconference games, we wouldn't even have to beat Ole Miss, Miss State, or an east cross over.


We.  ???..........I figured you were a Razorback fan all the time.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Valleysports on November 22, 2016, 11:01:05 am
haha well it's getting easier to just say WE, and you have to admit I'm as positive, about the Hogs, as some who claim to be true life time fans.  Totally excited about this rival game - "The Battleline Rival".  Did I say that right?
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 22, 2016, 11:31:51 am
Quote from: Valleysports on November 22, 2016, 11:01:05 am
haha well it's getting easier to just say WE, and you have to admit I'm as positive, about the Hogs, as some who claim to be true life time fans.  Totally excited about this rival game - "The Battleline Rival".  Did I say that right?
That's true, some of our fans make our opponents look tame.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on November 22, 2016, 03:41:29 pm
Quote from: bdubyab60 on November 21, 2016, 10:35:47 pm
Missouri LB says it would be a mistake for the Hogs to even show up. Lol

I want to tell him....thanks for the advice Opie.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Ventman on November 22, 2016, 03:48:47 pm
Hogs roll in this one. We got to keep one of the throphys this year.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 22, 2016, 05:35:33 pm
I predicted 7-5...we win this weekend it will surpass my expectations...I must say I am surprised...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 22, 2016, 07:10:04 pm
Quote from: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 22, 2016, 05:35:33 pm
I predicted 7-5...we win this weekend it will surpass my expectations...I must say I am surprised...

Well, you never know if Good Hog or Bad Hog shows up Friday, haha. Seriously, if we can't beat Mizzou, I'll be very disappointed.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: mack on November 23, 2016, 12:33:12 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on November 21, 2016, 08:50:52 pm
I predicted 9-10

You sorta predicted 9 wins 😎


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7-5 to 9-3 is probably. But who knows.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
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7-5 to 9-3 is probably. But who knows.

Looks like he has everything covered, lol. Looks like your mildcats beat us in a benefit basketball game, 71-70. We were without a couple of big guys, but no sense in losing to NLR, haha. We're going to miss y'all in conference play, GCT, Wynne, and Paragould don't have the same ring to it.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: fastdrop on November 23, 2016, 05:43:22 pm
Quote from: ricepig on November 21, 2016, 08:01:57 pm
Well, I just had 8 regular season wins, it's a given we win the bowl game under Bielema.
Not so fast my friend. The Hogs might have to actually play a decent football team this year in a bowl game.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 23, 2016, 05:48:27 pm
Quote from: fastdrop on November 23, 2016, 05:43:22 pm
Not so fast my friend. The Hogs might have to actually play a decent football team this year in a bowl game.

Nah, we don't have to play another SEC West team, we good.......
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: fastdrop on November 23, 2016, 05:59:48 pm
Quote from: ricepig on November 23, 2016, 05:48:27 pm
Nah, we don't have to play another SEC West team, we good.......
Oklahoma State would be an interesting match up.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on November 23, 2016, 06:27:47 pm
Haha. Hey, nothing is definite!
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: beach bum on November 23, 2016, 06:46:38 pm
I was thinking about the SEC in bowl games and I am not too optimistic when it comes to how everyone does in the bowl games. I could be completely wrong, but I think Alabama will get their 2 postseason wins. It will take a monumental upset of all time if Alabama loses. Outside of that there will be 9 or 10 more teams in bowl games from the SEC right? I don't see them doing much better than about .500 in the bowl games outside of Alabama. Arkansas can beat a Big Ten team because simply a match up standpoint, but anyone that can score points will give us trouble. I don't mean the Big Ten is bad, just the way we play it would be a good game against a Penn State, Wisconsin, Nebraska, or Minnesota type team.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: LRRandy on November 23, 2016, 06:49:39 pm
Quote from: ricepig on November 23, 2016, 05:48:27 pm
Nah, we don't have to play another SEC West team, we good.......
thats funny
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: beach bum on November 23, 2016, 06:53:01 pm
Quote from: LRRandy on November 23, 2016, 06:49:39 pm
thats funny

Let's be real, you take Alabama out of the SEC right now it's a conference people would be dogging relentlessly except for people in the South that aren't being objective.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 23, 2016, 07:26:52 pm
Quote from: beach bum on November 23, 2016, 06:53:01 pm
Let's be real, you take Alabama out of the SEC right now it's a conference people would be dogging relentlessly except for people in the South that aren't being objective.

We'll find out how competitive the conference is in the bowl season. It's no doubt off compared to other years, hopefully we'll have some good matchup to watch.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: LRRandy on November 23, 2016, 07:28:40 pm
Quote from: beach bum on November 23, 2016, 06:53:01 pm
Let's be real, you take Alabama out of the SEC right now it's a conference people would be dogging relentlessly except for people in the South that aren't being objective.
correct. There is one team to fear in the sec west. The others are still legendary in ricebugs mind.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 24, 2016, 07:35:03 am
Quote from: LRRandy on November 23, 2016, 07:28:40 pm
correct. There is one team to fear in the sec west. The others are still legendary in ricebugs mind.

Childish name calling from a Tat U can.....
















I doubt you see the sarcasm/
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: LRRandy on November 24, 2016, 08:51:27 am
Quote from: ricepig on November 24, 2016, 07:35:03 am
Childish name calling from a Tat U can












I doubt you see the sarcasm/
must have been auto correct
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Valleysports on November 24, 2016, 09:24:40 am
Quote from: LRRandy on November 23, 2016, 07:28:40 pm
correct. There is one team to fear in the sec west. The others are still legendary in ricebugs mind.

The others are just Big 10 level this year, not really any shame in that.  With injuries and things - its going to happen from time to time.  College Football Fans are just used to 2-3 Sec West teams being a level above, but only Bama is this year.  Honestly it's good for football.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 24, 2016, 10:20:31 am
Quote from: Valleysports on November 24, 2016, 09:24:40 am
The others are just Big 10 level this year, not really any shame in that.  With injuries and things - its going to happen from time to time.  College Football Fans are just used to 2-3 Sec West teams being a level above, but only Bama is this year.  Honestly it's good for football.

True, it gives them hope for another year. Bielema said he'd like to see the SEC and Big 10 matched up in non-conference games, but unfortunately, the commish said that's what bowl season was for.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: beach bum on November 24, 2016, 11:20:05 am
Using the reference Tat U is another example of why the NCAA is a joke. They should be able to use their "likeness" to make money. If the coaches make millions of dollars and the white guys in suits at the top that don't really work for a living accept to make a few decisions here or there and reap the benefits then the players certainly should to. You can say all you want, but if football was a sport being played mainly by white players at the NCAA level they would already be paid. It is going to happen in the next decade or two, but players will be compensated in the revenue producing sports.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: LRRandy on November 24, 2016, 11:38:16 am
Quote from: Valleysports on November 24, 2016, 09:24:40 am
The others are just Big 10 level this year, not really any shame in that.  With injuries and things - its going to happen from time to time.  College Football Fans are just used to 2-3 Sec West teams being a level above, but only Bama is this year.  Honestly it's good for football.
Actually they probably wish that they were playing at a B1G level. 4 in the top 7 of the rankings kind of speaks for itself.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 24, 2016, 12:27:02 pm
Quote from: LRRandy on November 24, 2016, 11:38:16 am
Actually they probably wish that they were playing at a B1G level. 4 in the top 7 of the rankings kind of speaks for itself.

Kind of ironic when it's the SEC with teams in those positions, you spout that it's all hype and overrated, lol. It's good that another conference is finally stepping up to try to challenge the SEC.  ;D
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: LRRandy on November 24, 2016, 03:25:05 pm
Quote from: ricepig on November 24, 2016, 12:27:02 pm
Kind of ironic when it's the SEC with teams in those positions, you spout that it's all hype and overrated, lol. It's good that another conference is finally stepping up to try to challenge the SEC.  ;D
no. I called it sec bias. All things being equal the sec was given the benefit of the doubt. They have since played their way to mediocrity and no longer get that edge.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 24, 2016, 03:32:24 pm
Quote from: LRRandy on November 24, 2016, 03:25:05 pm
no. I called it sec bias. All things being equal the sec was given the benefit of the doubt. They have since played their way to mediocrity and no longer get that edge.

Well, all the past championships in the past 15 or so years might say otherwise. One year by the Big 10 doesn't make a trend.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 24, 2016, 07:07:17 pm
Quote from: ricepig on November 22, 2016, 07:10:04 pm
Well, you never know if Good Hog or Bad Hog shows up Friday, haha. Seriously, if we can't beat Mizzou, I'll be very disappointed.
Isn't that the truth...you just never know who shows up...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on November 25, 2016, 01:43:45 pm
That was easy. 7-0
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bdubyab60 on November 25, 2016, 02:23:28 pm
Dodging bullets
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bdubyab60 on November 25, 2016, 02:38:25 pm
Nice drive there.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bdubyab60 on November 25, 2016, 03:38:30 pm
Bad start to the 3rd. At the worst that should have been a FG.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: VHSCoach2 on November 25, 2016, 04:08:16 pm
Pathetic 3rd quarter in all areas.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: beach bum on November 25, 2016, 04:23:34 pm
Mizzou just took the lead late 28-24.... I still think we pull it out!
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bdubyab60 on November 25, 2016, 04:26:47 pm
We are lucky it's this close
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Pokey03 on November 25, 2016, 04:34:25 pm
Looks like the momentum swung fast, missed entire 3rd. What happened?
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: beach bum on November 25, 2016, 04:41:07 pm
Get down to the 4 yard line with 4 chances to score and can't do it....
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bdubyab60 on November 25, 2016, 04:41:25 pm
Pitiful
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Pokey03 on November 25, 2016, 04:44:09 pm
Horrible to be in this situation after being up 24-7 at the half
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Pokey03 on November 25, 2016, 04:50:10 pm
There's still a chance to pull this one out, how ugly it may be.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: VHSCoach2 on November 25, 2016, 04:57:31 pm
Just reject any bowl invites and end this pathetic season now, Hogs.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: beach bum on November 25, 2016, 04:59:24 pm
Well on the positive side its a short drive again to Memphis....
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bdubyab60 on November 25, 2016, 05:02:52 pm
How the crap can you not block on that play. A total failure. I haven't been a big fan of making some changes but I'm on the bandwagon now. Someone has to go. Truthfully lucky we were even in the game. Big play after big play after big play.

We shouldn't be losing to a freaking 3 win ball team.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: VHSCoach2 on November 25, 2016, 05:04:46 pm
Quote from: bdubyab60 on November 25, 2016, 05:02:52 pm
How the crap can you not block on that play. A total failure. I haven't been a big fan of making some changes but I'm on the bandwagon now. Someone has to go. Truthfully lucky we were even in the game. Big play after big play after big play.

We shouldn't be losing to a freaking 3 win ball team.

And that someone is Robb Smith. Defense has been the big problem all season long.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bdubyab60 on November 25, 2016, 05:05:46 pm
Quote from: beach bum on November 25, 2016, 04:59:24 pm
Well on the positive side its a short drive again to Memphis....
Not worth watching anymore. Zero improvement all year from this team. We let these guys talk smack to us and just bent over and took it up the wazoo from them.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bdubyab60 on November 25, 2016, 05:11:46 pm
We actyfinishex about where I thought we would record wise. I'm not disappointed in that. It's the total lack of improvement all year by the offensive line and our defense, unacceptable.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: WPWells on November 25, 2016, 05:22:56 pm
Pathetic and embarrassing. Robb Smith should be gone before the bowl
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on November 25, 2016, 05:44:16 pm
Coach b has to go
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: beach bum on November 25, 2016, 05:52:17 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on November 25, 2016, 05:44:16 pm
Coach b has to go

He would be if it wasn't for that extension after the great 2-14 SEC start.... He is here for 2 more years because of that. And he will probably pull an 8-4 the last year and that will be enough for the powers at be at the U of A. That extension put their hands behind their backs to keep him.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 25, 2016, 05:55:54 pm
Quote from: Fred Bird on November 25, 2016, 05:22:56 pm
Pathetic and embarrassing. Robb Smith should be gone before the bowl

Probably so, but I think he'll have to find something before the bowl game. I'm more concerned why we abandoned the run in the second half, and at the goal line.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: beach bum on November 25, 2016, 05:56:37 pm
If the defense does not improve you will see another 7-5 season.... Alabama, Auburn, and LSU will run it down our throats for an automatic 3 losses. Then I would say we have 3 automatic wins in non conference. You win 4 out of 6 from the other games and that puts you at 7-5. I can only see 8-4 at best next year with all the WR losses.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 25, 2016, 05:57:35 pm
Quote from: beach bum on November 25, 2016, 05:52:17 pm
He would be if it wasn't for that extension after the great 2-14 SEC start.... He is here for 2 more years because of that. And he will probably pull an 8-4 the last year and that will be enough for the powers at be at the U of A. That extension put their hands behind their backs to keep him.

Well, changing coaches every 4 years isn't a very good recipe either.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: fastdrop on November 25, 2016, 06:00:07 pm
Quote from: beach bum on November 25, 2016, 04:59:24 pm
Well on the positive side its a short drive again to Memphis....
Just watched a great game there today. Then I hear the Hogs blew it. Happy Camper here. The Liberty Bowl is too good for this years Hog team.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 25, 2016, 06:01:24 pm
Quote from: beach bum on November 25, 2016, 05:56:37 pm
If the defense does not improve you will see another 7-5 season.... Alabama, Auburn, and LSU will run it down our throats for an automatic 3 losses. Then I would say we have 3 automatic wins in non conference. You win 4 out of 6 from the other games and that puts you at 7-5. I can only see 8-4 at best next year with all the WR losses.

I missed this season, I had us 4-4 in conference, but not losing this game. Those same three teams ran it down our throats in our two best years in 2010 and 2011. We just managed to beat Vandy on a blockec/missed FG, and MSU in OT. AW understands it, we are an 8-4 type program, hopefully we can get a couple of 9 win seasons to pull up the average.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 25, 2016, 06:02:24 pm
Quote from: fastdrop on November 25, 2016, 06:00:07 pm
Just watched a great game there today. Then I hear the Hogs blew it. Happy Camper here. The Liberty Bowl is too good for this years Hog team.

Yeah, no Central BBQ for us this year. What's in Shreveport???
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: beach bum on November 25, 2016, 06:03:12 pm
Quote from: fastdrop on November 25, 2016, 06:00:07 pm
Just watched a great game there today. Then I hear the Hogs blew it. Happy Camper here. The Liberty Bowl is too good for this years Hog team.

Yea it equals an easy win against one of the worst teams to qualify for a bowl meaning BB talks it up as "progress"....
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: beach bum on November 25, 2016, 06:04:17 pm
Quote from: ricepig on November 25, 2016, 06:01:24 pm
I missed this season, I had us 4-4 in conference, but not losing this game. Those same three teams ran it down our throats in our two best years in 2010 and 2011. We just managed to beat Vandy on a blockec/missed FG, and MSU in OT. AW understands it, we are an 8-4 type program, hopefully we can get a couple of 9 win seasons to pull up the average.

Petrino proved this wrong.... Not saying I ever wanted him to stay cause I never liked the guy but he did prove this wrong. When the SEC was stronger too.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: fastdrop on November 25, 2016, 06:05:40 pm
Quote from: ricepig on November 25, 2016, 06:02:24 pm
Yeah, no Central BBQ for us this year. What's in Shreveport???
I guess creole...  The loss shocked me.  3-5 in the SEC is not progress.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on November 25, 2016, 06:09:02 pm
We will not get better under BB. I had high hopes when he was hired but I'm a strong believer that he can not get it done in the SEC. heck the team he left is better with him in Arkansas now
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: beach bum on November 25, 2016, 06:10:45 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on November 25, 2016, 06:09:02 pm
We will not get better under BB. I had high hopes when he was hired but I'm a strong believer that he can not get it done in the SEC. heck the team he left is better with him in Arkansas now

This.... Wisconsin is better than us now!
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: beach bum on November 25, 2016, 06:13:18 pm
Does the SEC ever match up against the Sun Belt in a bowl game? Bring on Arkansas State....
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 25, 2016, 06:15:59 pm
Quote from: beach bum on November 25, 2016, 06:04:17 pm
Petrino proved this wrong.... Not saying I ever wanted him to stay cause I never liked the guy but he did prove this wrong. When the SEC was stronger too.

Stronger?? This year might be down, but OM and MSU are stronger now, for sure. The East is down from then, but the SEC is/was still winning championships.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 25, 2016, 06:16:51 pm
Quote from: beach bum on November 25, 2016, 06:10:45 pm
This.... Wisconsin is better than us now!

They were better than us when he left, lol.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on November 25, 2016, 06:41:14 pm
OM and MSU are stronger now than when petrino was here?!!! Maybe they were last year but this year they are horrid
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 25, 2016, 06:54:40 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on November 25, 2016, 06:41:14 pm
OM and MSU are stronger now than when petrino was here?!!! Maybe they were last year but this year they are horrid

Yeah, I guess it's too much for you to use reading comprehension. I guess "this year they might be down" confused you. Look up their records and get back with me.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: fastdrop on November 25, 2016, 06:56:02 pm
Quote from: beach bum on November 25, 2016, 06:13:18 pm
Does the SEC ever match up against the Sun Belt in a bowl game? Bring on Arkansas State....
Quote from: ricepig on November 24, 2016, 10:20:31 am
True, it gives them hope for another year. Bielema said he'd like to see the SEC and Big 10 matched up in non-conference games, but unfortunately, the commish said that's what bowl season was for.
Bielema says a lot of things.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 25, 2016, 06:57:11 pm
Quote from: fastdrop on November 25, 2016, 06:56:02 pm
Bielema says a lot of things.

We'd play them! Purdue or Rutgers, maybe......
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: fastdrop on November 25, 2016, 06:59:38 pm
Quote from: ricepig on November 25, 2016, 06:57:11 pm
We'd play them! Purdue or Rutgers, maybe......
Somebody wanted Michigan. Not sure why? I would keep the cupcakes.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on November 25, 2016, 07:11:15 pm
There is no mite to it, they are horrible. Don't try to sugarcoat what you said. My comprehension is just fine, it's your inability to keep making excuses that's getting bad
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 25, 2016, 07:23:52 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on November 25, 2016, 07:11:15 pm
There is no mite to it, they are horrible. Don't try to sugarcoat what you said. My comprehension is just fine, it's your inability to keep making excuses that's getting bad

No, I said OM and MSU are better during Bielema's era, than Petrino's, which is a fact. Neither played in a BCS game when Petrino was here. Why don't you go check their records for those four years and rankings compared to the last four? I'm not making any excuses, I'm just giving you the facts on the two different 4 year periods. I can't help it you aren't intelligent enough to understand facts, from your opinion.


OM during Petrino 24-26
OM during Bielema 32-18

MSU during Petrino 25-25
MSU during Bielema 31-20

There will be one more loss and victory after Saturday's game.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on November 25, 2016, 10:00:20 pm
No words. Not anymore.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 25, 2016, 10:27:35 pm
Quote from: ricepig on November 25, 2016, 07:23:52 pm
No, I said OM and MSU are better during Bielema's era, than Petrino's, which is a fact. Neither played in a BCS game when Petrino was here. Why don't you go check their records for those four years and rankings compared to the last four? I'm not making any excuses, I'm just giving you the facts on the two different 4 year periods. I can't help it you aren't intelligent enough to understand facts, from your opinion.


OM during Petrino 24-26
OM during Bielema 32-18

MSU during Petrino 25-25
MSU during Bielema 31-20

There will be one more loss and victory after Saturday's game.
You are right...but LSU and the East as a whole was better when CBP was here...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 25, 2016, 10:32:33 pm
No excuses anymore fellas...we just lost to a team that was 3-8. They are horrible. CBB cannot keep this team consistent. We are as up and down as a roller coaster! You can't blame this totally on the Defense, the Offense didn't score in the second half. This isn't just Robb Smith's fault. CBB came here as a defense minded coach, tough and physical! Well we are not physical anymore...You can say what you want but this is CBB's fault. You can't credit him with wins and not credit him for the losses...JMO...

Like Rice said, CBB will be here at least two more years unless our genius AD decides to give him another two year extension because of the amazing job he has done... ::)
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: beach bum on November 25, 2016, 11:08:31 pm
Quote from: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 25, 2016, 10:32:33 pm


unless our genius AD decides to give him another two year extension because of the amazing job he has done... ::)

LMBO
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: beach bum on November 25, 2016, 11:12:38 pm
Quote from: Romeo on February 03, 2016, 02:16:37 pm
Bret Bielema called out Ole Miss and Florida on national TV to what is perceived to be anger over recruiting tactics. It is what it is. Recruiting is a dirty business and Arkansas is just not an easy place to recruit.

This is an example of why I don't care for BB.... Constant blabber mouth making embarrassing comments who needs to worry about his own program first.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: beach bum on November 25, 2016, 11:21:42 pm
Quote from: beach bum on July 15, 2016, 08:14:13 pm
This is how the SEC goes down this season......

1.Alabama 7-1
2.LSU 6-2
3.Arkansas 5-3
4.Auburn 5-3
5.Ole Miss 3-5
6.Mississippi State 3-5
7.Texas A&M 3-5

1.Georgia 6-2
2.Tennessee 6-2
3.Florida 4-4
4.Kentucky 3-5
5.Vanderbilt 2-6
6.South Carolina 2-6
7.Missouri 1-7

......I'd say the only surprises I put down were Georgia being a slight surprise to win the East & I have Ole Miss all the way down at 5th in West. I think with a whole new offensive line pretty much and a suspect defense they will struggle. I see the Hogs finishing 8-4 or 9-3.

I wasn't too far off in win guesses for conference games in the West... Alabama 1 off, LSU 1 off, Arkansas 2 off, Auburn spot on, Texas A&M 1 off, the MS schools I will be spot on one of them and 1 off the other depending who wins tomorrow. The East I overestimated Georgia big time! But I guess it isn't that hard to be one off when you pick everyone 5-3 or 3-5 almost.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Jacketman65 on November 26, 2016, 12:53:54 am
Quote from: ricepig on November 25, 2016, 07:23:52 pm
No, I said OM and MSU are better during Bielema's era, than Petrino's, which is a fact. Neither played in a BCS game when Petrino was here. Why don't you go check their records for those four years and rankings compared to the last four? I'm not making any excuses, I'm just giving you the facts on the two different 4 year periods. I can't help it you aren't intelligent enough to understand facts, from your opinion.


OM during Petrino 24-26
OM during Bielema 32-18

MSU during Petrino 25-25
MSU during Bielema 31-20

There will be one more loss and victory after Saturday's game.
+1 there RP! With the exception of Alabama the tables continue to turn in the SEC!  Yes comprehension seems to be a problem with Cuckoo, perhaps too much gumbo and alcohol this weekend!
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 26, 2016, 07:12:15 am
Quote from: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 25, 2016, 10:32:33 pm
No excuses anymore fellas...we just lost to a team that was 3-8. They are horrible. CBB cannot keep this team consistent. We are as up and down as a roller coaster! You can't blame this totally on the Defense, the Offense didn't score in the second half. This isn't just Robb Smith's fault. CBB came here as a defense minded coach, tough and physical! Well we are not physical anymore...You can say what you want but this is CBB's fault. You can't credit him with wins and not credit him for the losses...JMO...

Like Rice said, CBB will be here at least two more years unless our genius AD decides to give him another two year extension because of the amazing job he has done... ::)

There won't be any two year extension, at most a year added to the end of the contract for recruiting purposes, but that's SOP. I will say I'll be disappointed without some staff changes, and I expect there to be some, hopefully the ones we need, lol.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 26, 2016, 08:50:46 am
Quote from: ricepig on November 26, 2016, 07:12:15 am
There won't be any two year extension, at most a year added to the end of the contract for recruiting purposes, but that's SOP. I will say I'll be disappointed without some staff changes, and I expect there to be some, hopefully the ones we need, lol.
I hope you are right about the extension. CBB does not deserve one. I just hate the fact the coordinators get the axe when it's still the head coaches fault. I personally would have given CBB more slack if he would just shut up and quit embarrassing himself and the UofA on a daily basis.
Places I think we need changes in the coaching staff...
1. DC
2. Oline
3. OC
4. Secondary
5. TE's
6. Linebackers
7. WR's
8. Dline
9. Special Teams
10. Head Coach

We need to keep our RB's coach...hahahahahahaha...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 26, 2016, 08:54:59 am
Quote from: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 26, 2016, 08:50:46 am
I hope you are right about the extension. CBB does not deserve one. I just hate the fact the coordinators get the axe when it's still the head coaches fault. I personally would have given CBB more slack if he would just shut up and quit embarrassing himself and the UofA on a daily basis.
Places I think we need changes in the coaching staff...
1. DC
2. Oline
3. OC
4. Secondary
5. TE's
6. Linebackers
7. WR's
8. Dline
9. Special Teams
10. Head Coach

We need to keep our RB's coach...hahahahahahaha...

The WR coach is good, and our best recruiter, he needs to stay. I hope FAU fires Partridge and he comes back as DL coach, also a great Florida recruiter. Then the LB coach can hit the road and we get an ace Texas recruiter, DB Coach, whatever.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 26, 2016, 08:56:55 am
Quote from: ricepig on November 26, 2016, 08:54:59 am
The WR coach is good, and our best recruiter, he needs to stay. I hope FAU fires Partridge and he comes back as DL coach, also a great Florida recruiter. Then the LB coach can hit the road and we get an ace Texas recruiter, DB Coach, whatever.
Yeah I guess I should have used the sarcasm button Rice...lol...I know we have some good ones. We do need a good Oline coach. Our Oline regressed this year.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 26, 2016, 10:04:35 am
Quote from: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 26, 2016, 08:56:55 am
Yeah I guess I should have used the sarcasm button Rice...lol...I know we have some good ones. We do need a good Oline coach. Our Oline regressed this year.

Our o-line regressed because we didn't have players to take their place, or the 4* guys we had to replace them weren't as good as advertised. Yes, I know, I'm shocked too that recruiting services might have someone overrated.......Anyway, OL need to play in their third year, not their first or second. We played Skipper, Ragnow, and Kirkland as freshmen, they all should have redshirted. Sure, Bama will start a 5* at OT every few years, but that's more of an exception, than the norm. And no, it's not an excuse, it's a fact. Bielema wanted Pittman to take shots at home run guys, he hit on a few, but basically struck out his last two years. We took 3 3* this year to develop, they'll play their third year, more than likely. Our biggest problem has been the back 7 on defense, we can't recruit SEC type players back there with any consistency.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on November 26, 2016, 10:14:56 am
The defensive staff should have been let go today.

Let Bielema call the plays on defense. Anything to get something fired up.

Honestly though, our defensive team speed is garbage.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 26, 2016, 10:15:32 am
Quote from: ricepig on November 26, 2016, 10:04:35 am
Our o-line regressed because we didn't have players to take their place, or the 4* guys we had to replace them weren't as good as advertised. Yes, I know, I'm shocked too that recruiting services might have someone overrated.......Anyway, OL need to play in their third year, not their first or second. We played Skipper, Ragnow, and Kirkland as freshmen, they all should have redshirted. Sure, Bama will start a 5* at OT every few years, but that's more of an exception, than the norm. And no, it's not an excuse, it's a fact. Bielema wanted Pittman to take shots at home run guys, he hit on a few, but basically struck out his last two years. We took 3 3* this year to develop, they'll play their third year, more than likely. Our biggest problem has been the back 7 on defense, we can't recruit SEC type players back there with any consistency.
You may be right. My main problem is I don't want to be average. I want the Hogs to be good. 7-5 is unacceptable. CBP and HDN for that matter proved that the UofA can be above average. I would be totally satisfied with 2 or 3 years of 8-4, 9-3 and then have that 10 or 11 win season sprinkled in. And we should be able to accomplish that. It will not happen with CBB...but we were well on our way with CBP...and I can't believe I am about to say this...but CBB makes me wish we had "The Dork" back...lol...now that's just bad...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 26, 2016, 10:22:47 am
Quote from: AirWarren on November 26, 2016, 10:14:56 am
The defensive staff should have been let go today.

Let Bielema call the plays on defense. Anything to get something fired up.

Honestly though, our defensive team speed is garbage.

Nah, after recruiting is over, that's the college way.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on November 26, 2016, 10:55:27 am
Excuse me if I'm wrong but you just blamed the recruiting services for having players overrated? I thought you said the coaches don't let the recruiting services recruit for them?
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 26, 2016, 11:21:10 am
Quote from: cuckoobird on November 26, 2016, 10:55:27 am
Excuse me if I'm wrong but you just blamed the recruiting services for having players overrated? I thought you said the coaches don't let the recruiting services recruit for them?

I didn't blame anyone, or anything, I guess you can't discern sarcasm, lol.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Valleysports on November 26, 2016, 12:53:28 pm
ricepig, you watching this tos - tm game?  Ya'll need to get in the IG, I'm telling ya. 
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 26, 2016, 12:57:51 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on November 26, 2016, 12:53:28 pm
ricepig, you watching this tos - tm game?  Ya'll need to get in the IG, I'm telling ya.

We got Froholdt from there..........

I thought you were saying IMG, I guess it was Big 1G?? Anyway, we'll stay where we are, about the same record 70% of the time.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: YC on November 26, 2016, 01:02:22 pm
****BRAKING NEWS****BRAKING NEWS****BRAKING NEWS****

At 4:58 CST Friday Nov. 25, 2016 the University of Arkansas's football program after twenty five years of agony has passed away.

The decision was made in 1991 to put the program on life support. Although there were a few times it appeared to be on the verge of recovery it always regressed and had continued on life support.

In 2008 the decision was made (the hiring of Jeff Long) to move it off life support and put it in hospice. There was a brief time while in hospice it appeared to making favorable progress but that progress was short lived.

It has now mercifully passed away. Its pain is over. We can now get on with our lives without the worrisome task of trying to keep it alive.

Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Valleysports on November 26, 2016, 01:42:38 pm
Quote from: ricepig on November 26, 2016, 12:57:51 pm
We got Froholdt from there..........

I thought you were saying IMG, I guess it was Big 1G?? Anyway, we'll stay where we are, about the same record 70% of the time.

I so hope Bama gets to play tos - Michigan's passing game is good, other than throwing the ball to tos defenders.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bdubyab60 on November 27, 2016, 01:22:11 pm
I'm betting TN fans aren't to happy right now either
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 27, 2016, 01:29:40 pm
Quote from: bdubyab60 on November 27, 2016, 01:22:11 pm
I'm betting TN fans aren't to happy right now either

Anyone outside of Bama and Vandy is hacked, lol.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: beach bum on November 27, 2016, 01:44:00 pm
Quote from: ricepig on November 27, 2016, 01:29:40 pm
Anyone outside of Bama and Vandy is hacked, lol.

Happiness of fan bases ranked by me.... so it means nothing.

1.Alabama- zero explanation needed
2. Kentucky- you way overachieved this year so they are pumped and satisfied based upon their history
3.Vanderbilt- read above, they got probably the absolute most out of what they have, maybe 7 wins at most??
4.LSU- only because they have a new beginning to look forward to, no other reason
5.Florida- going to Atlanta, but does that really mean anything?
6.South Carolina- going bowling for them was solid
7.Auburn- maybe could have even ranked them higher, if healthy for next year a lot to look forward to
8.Miss State- that QB brings a lot of hope and they still like Mullens, could have went higher here too
9.Missouri- not because anything they did on the field, they have a young QB and ended with a good win
10.Georgia- nothing on the field gives hope, mainly its just Smart's first year so you can't be wanting him gone
11.Texas A&M- it isn't time yet, but Sumlin only has so much time left
12. Arkansas- BB has lost a lot of fans, we all know the story so no explaining here
13. Ole Miss- I only put them this low because no bowl game and potential sanctions??
14. Tennessee- absolutely pathetic with their expectations and the East you don't have to finish higher than Bama


..... Anyone want to chime in?
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 27, 2016, 02:53:40 pm
Quote from: beach bum on November 27, 2016, 01:44:00 pm
Happiness of fan bases ranked by me.... so it means nothing.

1.Alabama- zero explanation needed
2. Kentucky- you way overachieved this year so they are pumped and satisfied based upon their history
3.Vanderbilt- read above, they got probably the absolute most out of what they have, maybe 7 wins at most??
4.LSU- only because they have a new beginning to look forward to, no other reason
5.Florida- going to Atlanta, but does that really mean anything?
6.South Carolina- going bowling for them was solid
7.Auburn- maybe could have even ranked them higher, if healthy for next year a lot to look forward to
8.Miss State- that QB brings a lot of hope and they still like Mullens, could have went higher here too
9.Missouri- not because anything they did on the field, they have a young QB and ended with a good win
10.Georgia- nothing on the field gives hope, mainly its just Smart's first year so you can't be wanting him gone
11.Texas A&M- it isn't time yet, but Sumlin only has so much time left
12. Arkansas- BB has lost a lot of fans, we all know the story so no explaining here
13. Ole Miss- I only put them this low because no bowl game and potential sanctions??
14. Tennessee- absolutely pathetic with their expectations and the East you don't have to finish higher than Bama


..... Anyone want to chime in?
I want Kiffin at Arkansas...PLEASE!
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on November 27, 2016, 03:09:38 pm
Quote from: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 27, 2016, 02:53:40 pm
I want Kiffin at Arkansas...PLEASE!

Yes. His line of work at USC and Tenner is fantastic.

If we are wanting a new coach, let's shoot higher than the frat boy.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 27, 2016, 03:09:48 pm
Quote from: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 27, 2016, 02:53:40 pm
I want Kiffin at Arkansas...PLEASE!

I doubt we change OC's........
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: WPWells on November 27, 2016, 03:22:29 pm
Agreed. There won't be an OC change. I do hope we go after some big name DCs.

Charlie Partridge was dismissed at FAU today. Bring him back as the DL coach! Or heck, give him a shot at DC. Can't be any worse than Robb Smith.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 27, 2016, 04:01:03 pm
Quote from: Fred Bird on November 27, 2016, 03:22:29 pm
Agreed. There won't be an OC change. I do hope we go after some big name DCs.

Charlie Partridge was dismissed at FAU today. Bring him back as the DL coach! Or heck, give him a shot at DC. Can't be any worse than Robb Smith.

Pipe dream, why you ask?? Because I'd like to see it, haha.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 27, 2016, 04:25:45 pm
Quote from: ricepig on November 27, 2016, 03:09:48 pm
I doubt we change OC's........
Really? lol...I can dream of him as our head coach can't I?
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 27, 2016, 04:36:57 pm
Quote from: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 27, 2016, 04:25:45 pm
Really? lol...I can dream of him as our head coach can't I?

Sure, but not before two years have passed, you going to sleep that long??
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 27, 2016, 07:26:46 pm
Quote from: ricepig on November 27, 2016, 04:36:57 pm
Sure, but not before two years have passed, you going to sleep that long??
Yeah we know about the two years Rice...but anything could happen...you just never know for sure...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 27, 2016, 07:50:39 pm
Quote from: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 27, 2016, 07:26:46 pm
Yeah we know about the two years Rice...but anything could happen...you just never know for sure...

True, but I have about 15.4M reasons why the chances are .00000001 it doesn't.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on November 27, 2016, 08:12:25 pm
Maybe someone else will hire CBB. I can hope anyway. Maybe JL should pimp him out and drop any buyout clauses if there are any left.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 27, 2016, 08:13:49 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on November 27, 2016, 08:12:25 pm
Maybe someone else will hire CBB. I can hope anyway...

That's where you 1 comes in that number.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: fastdrop on November 27, 2016, 08:52:30 pm
I hope CBB stays at least another 5 years.

Seriously he is not a bad coach. Parity has become a reality in College football. I like it and think it is good for the game. 7-5 .... 8-4 is a GOOD year - not a great year but a good one. Fans that don't see that are living in dream land.

Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: beach bum on November 27, 2016, 08:58:56 pm
Quote from: fastdrop on November 27, 2016, 08:52:30 pm
I hope CBB stays at least another 5 years.

Seriously he is not a bad coach. Parity has become a reality in College football. I like it and think it is good for the game. 7-5 .... 8-4 is a GOOD year - not a great year but a good one. Fans that don't see that are living in dream land.

Let me explain to you why in college 7-5 or 8-4 IS NOT GOOD for a good program in a power 5. Each year we play 3 games in non conference that we should never lose. Yes, games like La Tech, Toledo, and UL Monroe are games a power 5 conference team in the SEC should NEVER lose. What that means is you can basically check mark 3 wins automatically. This year we had gimme games against Texas State, Alcorn State, and Louisiana Tech. Those schools don't even come close to having the resources that an SEC school has. What I am trying to say is in games against real competition on the same level as a power 5 conference team Arkansas only went 4-5 this year. That is not good. Next year we have Coastal Carolina, New Mexico State, and some cream puff team on the schedule from FCS that I can't remember right now. If any major program loses one of those 3 games the coach and players might as well quit the rest of the season. In the NFL every team is on a level playing field and if you stink its purely because you can't manage a franchise. In college if team A is given 20 million for its program and team B is given 80 million well that's not a level playing field. If we go 7-5 again next year that would mean we only won 4 games again against decent competition and teams on a level playing field. That is why the NCAA should only allow one cupcake against a non power 5 all season. I'd rather watch us play a West Virginia and Arizona State type anyday over Alcorn State or Texas State. I wish they would only allow one cupcake a year. No one can dispute my idea would not make the college game extremely more fun. Also, now that the conferences are getting so big with 14 teams in some they should all play 9 conference games. We won't see East teams for half a decade besides Missouri?? Then 2 other power 5 non conference games plus the one cupcake equals your 12 games. If we aren't playing Florida again for 6 more years why are they even considered in the same conference? Am I missing something there?
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: fastdrop on November 27, 2016, 09:08:59 pm
Quote from: beach bum on November 27, 2016, 08:58:56 pm
Let me explain to you why in college 7-5 or 8-4 IS NOT GOOD for a good program in a power 5. Each year we play 3 games in non conference that we should never lose. Yes, games like La Tech, Toledo, and UL Monroe are games a power 5 conference team in the SEC should NEVER lose. What that means is you can basically check mark 3 wins automatically. This year we had gimme games against Texas State, Alcorn State, and Louisiana Tech. Those schools don't even come close to having the resources that an SEC school has. What I am trying to say is in games against real competition on the same level as a power 5 conference team Arkansas only went 4-5 this year. That is not good. Next year we have Coastal Carolina, New Mexico State, and some cream puff team on the schedule from FCS that I can't remember right now. If any major program loses one of those 3 games the coach and players might as well quit the rest of the season. In the NFL every team is on a level playing field and if you stink its purely because you can't manage a franchise. In college if team A is given 20 million for its program and team B is given 80 million well that's not a level playing field. If we go 7-5 again next year that would mean we only won 4 games again against decent competition and teams on a level playing field. That is why the NCAA should only allow one cupcake against a non power 5 all season. I'd rather watch us play a West Virginia and Arizona State type anyday over Alcorn State or Texas State. I wish they would only allow one cupcake a year.
Take a look at the Arkansas schedule it had this year....along with the other members of the SEC west. Hardest schedule in College football. Arkansas along with other SEC west schools would be 10-2 in most any other conference.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: beach bum on November 27, 2016, 09:11:32 pm
Quote from: fastdrop on November 27, 2016, 09:08:59 pm
Take a look at the Arkansas schedule it had this year....along with the other members of the SEC west. Hardest schedule in College football. Arkansas along with other SEC west schools would be 10-2 in most any other conference.

The SEC West was not the toughest division this season. The last decade, yes but not this year.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: fastdrop on November 27, 2016, 09:16:00 pm
Quote from: beach bum on November 27, 2016, 09:11:32 pm
The SEC West was not the toughest division this season. The last decade, yes but not this year.
You don't know that yet. Bowl season will tell the tale.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: fastdrop on November 27, 2016, 09:16:51 pm
I wouldn't bet against the SEC west in bowl games though....  ;D
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: LRRandy on November 27, 2016, 09:35:13 pm
Quote from: fastdrop on November 27, 2016, 08:52:30 pm
I hope CBB stays at least another 5 years.

Seriously he is not a bad coach. Parity has become a reality in College football. I like it and think it is good for the game. 7-5 .... 8-4 is a GOOD year - not a great year but a good one. Fans that don't see that are living in dream land.
look in the mirror for dreamland. The rest of the country is acklowledging what you fail to see.
http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/2678415-theres-no-way-to-sugarcoat-it-the-sec-is-mediocre-in-2016
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: DerekOxford on November 27, 2016, 09:42:05 pm
Under Bret Bielema at Arkansas, the team is 15-25 and 10-22 in the SEC.

His 3-9 (0-8) debut was the worst season at Arkansas since World War II. He got a contract extension for matching John L. Smith's conference win total in Year 2.

Some of the losses during this era are blowing a 24-7 lead at Rutgers and losing, and then repeating that feat on Friday against Missouri. Both teams were terrible. Missouri was 4-8 while Rutgers was 6-6 in the American.

He lost to Toledo and Texas Tech at home in 2015, but his 5-3 SEC mark got people back on board.

2016 saw him barely beat Louisiana Tech in the season opener, beat a pedestrian TCU team on the road, and then a couple of patsies in Texas State and Alcorn State.

He has still yet to beat Kevin Sumlin, and finally managed to get the best of Dan Mullen. For some reason, he has Hugh Freeze's number. He did also managed to break the Florida curse.

I don't know how anyone really has optimism for 2017. Just looking at the schedule, it doesn't bode well at all.

9/2 Florida A&M W
9/9 TCU tossup
9/23 A&M tossup
9/30 New Mexico St W
10/7 at S. Carolina tossup
10/14 at Alabama L
10/21 Auburn L
10/28 at Ole Miss tossup
11/4 Coastal Carolina W
11/11 at LSU L
11/18 Mississippi State tossup
11/24 Missouri tossup

Only three for sure W's. Three for sure L's, six tossups. Probably split the tossups and go 6-6. Is 6-6 in year five good enough to keep his job? I say no way.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: beach bum on November 27, 2016, 09:47:07 pm
Quote from: DerekOxford on November 27, 2016, 09:42:05 pm
Under Bret Bielema at Arkansas, the team is 15-25 and 10-22 in the SEC.

His 3-9 (0-8) debut was the worst season at Arkansas since World War II. He got a contract extension for matching John L. Smith's conference win total in Year 2.

Some of the losses during this era are blowing a 24-7 lead at Rutgers and losing, and then repeating that feat on Friday against Missouri. Both teams were terrible. Missouri was 4-8 while Rutgers was 6-6 in the American.

He lost to Toledo and Texas Tech at home in 2015, but his 5-3 SEC mark got people back on board.

2016 saw him barely beat Louisiana Tech in the season opener, beat a pedestrian TCU team on the road, and then a couple of patsies in Texas State and Alcorn State.

He has still yet to beat Kevin Sumlin, and finally managed to get the best of Dan Mullen. For some reason, he has Hugh Freeze's number. He did also managed to break the Florida curse.

I don't know how anyone really has optimism for 2017. Just looking at the schedule, it doesn't bode well at all.

9/2 Florida A&M W
9/9 TCU tossup
9/23 A&M tossup
9/30 New Mexico St W
10/7 at S. Carolina tossup
10/14 at Alabama L
10/21 Auburn L
10/28 at Ole Miss tossup
11/4 Coastal Carolina W
11/11 at LSU L
11/18 Mississippi State tossup
11/24 Missouri tossup

Only three for sure W's. Three for sure L's, six tossups. Probably split the tossups and go 6-6. Is 6-6 in year five good enough to keep his job? I say no way.

If we start 1-2 we are seriously potentially looking at 6-6.... possibly even 5-7. I would say 8-4 next year would be a great job.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: LRRandy on November 27, 2016, 09:47:13 pm
Quote from: fastdrop on November 27, 2016, 09:08:59 pm
Take a look at the Arkansas schedule it had this year....along with the other members of the SEC west. Hardest schedule in College football. Arkansas along with other SEC west schools would be 10-2 in most any other conference.
laughable. You say Arkansas goes 10-2 playing Penn St. Wisc. Xichigan, tOhio State among others? Maryland and Rutgers (0-2 ring a bell) I'll give you, but get real. Arkansas schedule was actually ranked 21. 3 of 5 toughest schedules in the B1G inluding first and second toughest.

https://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/ranking/schedule-strength-by-other
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bdubyab60 on November 27, 2016, 11:54:00 pm
I think the SEC is going to stink it up in bowl games this year, except for a few teams. It happens, things cycle around. The SEC will probably carry home the title again under the Bama flag. Us SEC guys will have our hat to hang that on and the B1G will say look we won the most bowl games

But half these SEC teams that will bowling for the SEC have issues. Either they play no defense or their QB's are injured and their offense sucks. No consistency.

If Arkansas plays Iowa as one of the projections has us doing I think we get handled easily. They run the ball as good as anyone and are pretty good defensively by what I've seen of them, ain't much though.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Jacketman65 on November 28, 2016, 12:27:50 am
Quote from: LRRandy on November 27, 2016, 09:47:13 pm
laughable. You say Arkansas goes 10-2 playing Penn St. Wisc. Xichigan, tOhio State among others? Maryland and Rutgers (0-2 ring a bell) I'll give you, but get real. Arkansas schedule was actually ranked 21. 3 of 5 toughest schedules in the B1G inluding first and second toughest.

https://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/ranking/schedule-strength-by-other
Every year, more back slapping excuses. I'm tired of it!  Let's either take the dump or get off the pot so to speak!
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: fastdrop on November 28, 2016, 06:42:12 am
Quote from: LRRandy on November 27, 2016, 09:47:13 pm
laughable. You say Arkansas goes 10-2 playing Penn St. Wisc. Xichigan, tOhio State among others? Maryland and Rutgers (0-2 ring a bell) I'll give you, but get real. Arkansas schedule was actually ranked 21. 3 of 5 toughest schedules in the B1G inluding first and second toughest.

https://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/ranking/schedule-strength-by-other

I said they would be 10-2 in most conferences. I don't think the Big 10 is better than the SEC. The one good thing is that we will see soon enough.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: fastdrop on November 28, 2016, 06:45:24 am
Quote from: Jacketman65 on November 28, 2016, 12:27:50 am
Every year, more back slapping excuses. I'm tired of it!  Let's either take the dump or get off the pot so to speak!
Ricepig, will you talk to your buddies about this? Tell them to just go ahead and cancel football on the hill.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on November 28, 2016, 06:58:37 am
I know financially, he has two more years.

But personally for me, I'm giving him 1 more year. I'm tired of seeing slow, defensive players. And I'm tired of seeing that tit bag Austin Allen frown when something doesn't go his way.

If/when he goes, time to go back to the spread.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bdubyab60 on November 28, 2016, 07:11:14 am
Next year isn't going to be much better than this one. I would hope to see improvement in some areas. Defense for sure and some consistent offense.

We will once again have some big holes that need filled. Does anyone know who we have that are potentially replacing our OL starters, receivers and defensive players that are leaving. Receivers I think we should be ok. OL I'm afraid if the couldn't put a couple of these guys playing now on the sideline we may be in trouble and defense, well let's just say I don't have my hopes up there.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 28, 2016, 07:52:17 am
Quote from: bdubyab60 on November 28, 2016, 07:11:14 am
Next year isn't going to be much better than this one. I would hope to see improvement in some areas. Defense for sure and some consistent offense.

We will once again have some big holes that need filled. Does anyone know who we have that are potentially replacing our OL starters, receivers and defensive players that are leaving. Receivers I think we should be ok. OL I'm afraid if the couldn't put a couple of these guys playing now on the sideline we may be in trouble and defense, well let's just say I don't have my hopes up there.

If Ragnow stays, we only lose Skipper at OT, and should be better on the OL. At WR, we have guys like Jones and Pettaway, but can they block like Hatcher? Then you need a Morgan type that is going to be the route runner. On defense, any body they plug in should be better. The guy we may miss most is our punter, haha.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on November 28, 2016, 09:19:23 am
I think Bret leaves before he is fired.

He had always said he has never been fired from a job. And I think he will hold truth to that within himself.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bdubyab60 on November 28, 2016, 09:42:48 am
Quote from: ricepig on November 28, 2016, 07:52:17 am
If Ragnow stays, we only lose Skipper at OT, and should be better on the OL. At WR, we have guys like Jones and Pettaway, but can they block like Hatcher? Then you need a Morgan type that is going to be the route runner. On defense, any body they plug in should be better. The guy we may miss most is our punter, haha.
Never underestimate a good punter.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 28, 2016, 09:45:15 am
Quote from: AirWarren on November 28, 2016, 09:19:23 am
I think Bret leaves before he is fired.

He had always said he has never been fired from a job. And I think he will hold truth to that within himself.

Everyone assumes he has two more years and leaves, or is fired. There is a better chance he stays here, than those two. Say we win the bowl game and 8 next year, he isn't going to be fired from Arkansas for winning 8 games, or that's my opinion. Now, less than 8 wins, it probably is 50/50.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on November 28, 2016, 10:00:59 am
You don't think he will get fed up with not winning big in the SEC and go elsewhere?
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on November 28, 2016, 10:02:35 am
Quote from: AirWarren on November 28, 2016, 10:00:59 am
You don't think he will get fed up with not winning big in the SEC and go elsewhere?
We can only pray for that to happen. Apparently the administration is ok with being at best, mediocre
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on November 28, 2016, 10:13:30 am
I think he is a good coach. I just think with what he wants to do here, he is going to have to recruit some big time speed.

The things that hacks me off the most.
1. Out of position on defense.
2. Wrong angles...then too slow to make the play.
3. Getting ran by at the LOS as a CB
4. Been gashing between the guards and tackles the whole way down the field. Get inside the 5 and on 3rd down, run an end around.

Got to take chances on kids that may have a little character issue. Because those kids...are the kids that can give you 110% on the field.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 28, 2016, 11:00:37 am
Quote from: AirWarren on November 28, 2016, 10:13:30 am
I think he is a good coach. I just think with what he wants to do here, he is going to have to recruit some big time speed.

The things that hacks me off the most.
1. Out of position on defense.
2. Wrong angles...then too slow to make the play.
3. Getting ran by at the LOS as a CB
4. Been gashing between the guards and tackles the whole way down the field. Get inside the 5 and on 3rd down, run an end around.

Got to take chances on kids that may have a little character issue. Because those kids...are the kids that can give you 110% on the field.

Wait, where is there any proof that character issue guys give 110%, or more than anyone else? I agree we need more speed, and I think we've taken some recruits this year that are faster, on average. I think we needed to blitz more, I don't know if that's a Smith or Bielema issue.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bdubyab60 on November 28, 2016, 11:09:09 am
We are to passive on defense. We catch blocks and wait for the runner to come to us. I'm assuming that's the technique being taught. Unfortunately when we blitz we get burned. Cause of poor coverage. No physicality at the line of scrimmage, against mizzou receivers were just allowed to run free off the line.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on November 28, 2016, 12:41:48 pm
Quote from: ricepig on November 28, 2016, 11:00:37 am
Wait, where is there any proof that character issue guys give 110%, or more than anyone else? I agree we need more speed, and I think we've taken some recruits this year that are faster, on average. I think we needed to blitz more, I don't know if that's a Smith or Bielema issue.

Take a look at Miami in the 80s, 90s, and 2000s. That will give you a good gauge of what we need back there in the secondary. Ed Reed comes to mind.

Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 28, 2016, 12:57:40 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on November 28, 2016, 12:41:48 pm
Take a look at Miami in the 80s, 90s, and 2000s. That will give you a good gauge of what we need back there in the secondary. Ed Reed comes to mind.

I know what we need, getting them is a different equation.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on November 28, 2016, 12:59:17 pm
Would it help to fly banners around campus? I still have the one we used for nutt.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 28, 2016, 01:44:42 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on November 28, 2016, 12:59:17 pm
Would it help to fly banners around campus? I still have the one we used for nutt.

Why, you wanting Nutt?
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on November 28, 2016, 02:05:31 pm
I hate to say it but he's better than CBB
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 28, 2016, 02:18:04 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on November 28, 2016, 02:05:31 pm
I hate to say it but he's better than CBB

That's an opinion.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on November 28, 2016, 02:18:15 pm
Quote from: ricepig on November 28, 2016, 12:57:40 pm
I know what we need, getting them is a different equation.

Why? All we were fed for years was we have the "location, facilities, tradition.."
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 28, 2016, 02:21:38 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on November 28, 2016, 02:18:15 pm
Why? All we were fed for years was we have the "location, facilities, tradition.."

Well, you've been eating at the wrong places, lol. We lack location for athletes, it's great for quality of life for a working person, and great for students.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Longfellow on November 28, 2016, 03:37:52 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on November 28, 2016, 02:05:31 pm
I hate to say it but he's better than CBB
I would agree
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 28, 2016, 03:47:27 pm
Quote from: ricepig on November 28, 2016, 02:18:04 pm
That's an opinion.
Not really...HDN's record was much better...especially after 4 years...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 28, 2016, 03:48:25 pm
Quote from: ricepig on November 28, 2016, 11:00:37 am
Wait, where is there any proof that character issue guys give 110%, or more than anyone else? I agree we need more speed, and I think we've taken some recruits this year that are faster, on average. I think we needed to blitz more, I don't know if that's a Smith or Bielema issue.
It's a CBB issue, after all he is the head coach...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on November 28, 2016, 04:33:05 pm
Quote from: ricepig on November 28, 2016, 02:18:04 pm
That's an opinion.
no, it's a fact after 4 years that Houston nutt's record was 30-18 while Bert's is 24-24. Plus he didn't lose to the likes of Toledo or rutgers. Numbers don't lie, remember when you used them about MSU and OM. You're wrong on this one
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 28, 2016, 04:55:56 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on November 28, 2016, 04:33:05 pm
no, it's a fact after 4 years that Houston nutt's record was 30-18 while Bert's is 24-24. Plus he didn't lose to the likes of Toledo or rutgers. Numbers don't lie, remember when you used them about MSU and OM. You're wrong on this one

Fine, I'll let you have HDN, lol. Of course, Bama didn't have Saban until 2007, so there's that. I guess you aren't going on their lifetime records which would probably be a better judge of who's better.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 28, 2016, 04:58:03 pm
Quote from: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 28, 2016, 03:47:27 pm
Not really...HDN's record was much better...especially after 4 years...

You don't think they coached under different circumstances? I mean, go ahead, I'll let you have Nutt as your coach.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 28, 2016, 05:02:59 pm
Quote from: ricepig on November 28, 2016, 04:58:03 pm
You don't think they coached under different circumstances? I mean, go ahead, I'll let you have Nutt as your coach.
I don't want Nutt as the coach, just saying he was better than CBB...facts don't lie regardless of how you spin it...I don't want CBB either, he is worse than Nutt...lol...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 28, 2016, 05:11:40 pm
Quote from: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 28, 2016, 05:02:59 pm
I don't want Nutt as the coach, just saying he was better than CBB...facts don't lie regardless of how you spin it...I don't want CBB either, he is worse than Nutt...lol...

Facts show he had a better record in their first four years at the University of Arkansas, that's all the facts show, lol.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 28, 2016, 05:46:36 pm
Quote from: ricepig on November 28, 2016, 05:11:40 pm
Facts show he had a better record in their first four years at the University of Arkansas, that's all the facts show, lol.
And that is exactly what I was eluding to...what more could be said...lol...it's not rocket science! Nutt was better than CBB...in his first four years...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 28, 2016, 05:50:50 pm
Nutt went 9-5  (5-3) in his 5th year and 9-4  (4-4) in his sixth. Nutt also either tied or won the SEC West 3 times...Nutt wasn't a bad coach, he was just a dork who had a big ego. CBB has a big ego and has won nothing at Arkansas...lol...at least Nutt won something... 8)
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 28, 2016, 05:54:19 pm
Heck CBP Petrino was only here 4 years...and he went 34-17  (17-15) and in his last two went 10-3 and 11-2...no other way to look at it...CBB is and has been horrible... ;D

8-5 in his second year...and it took CBB 4 years to get to 7-5...now if CBB wins the bowl game he will match CBP's second year... :o
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 28, 2016, 05:54:37 pm
Quote from: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 28, 2016, 05:46:36 pm
And that is exactly what I was eluding to...what more could be said...lol...it's not rocket science! Nutt was better than CBB...in his first four years...

Yep, he had a better record! He also won more games in his first four years than Broyles did.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 28, 2016, 05:56:35 pm
Quote from: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 28, 2016, 05:54:19 pm
Heck CBP Petrino was only here 4 years...and he went 34-17  (17-15) and in his last two went 10-3 and 11-2...no other way to look at it...CBB is and has been horrible... ;D

Yep, good times, unfortunately he drove the program into a ditch.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 28, 2016, 05:59:48 pm
Quote from: ricepig on November 28, 2016, 05:54:37 pm
Yep, he had a better record! He also won more games in his first four years than Broyles did.
Broyles didn't coach as many games back then though...
58 - 4-6
59 - 9-2
60 - 8-3
61 - 8-3

Marked improvement by Broyles...CBB not so much...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 28, 2016, 06:00:39 pm
Quote from: ricepig on November 28, 2016, 05:56:35 pm
Yep, good times, unfortunately he drove the program into a ditch.
He was still a much better coach and proved that the UofA does not have to be average...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on November 28, 2016, 06:02:19 pm
+1. It's unacceptable to accept mideocre
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 28, 2016, 06:16:51 pm
Quote from: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 28, 2016, 06:00:39 pm
He was still a much better coach and proved that the UofA does not have to be average...

Nope, but he isn't here anymore, and had he had another good year, he wouldn't have stayed. He never stayed anywhere very long.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on November 28, 2016, 06:41:35 pm
You don't know that
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 28, 2016, 06:50:05 pm
Quote from: ricepig on November 28, 2016, 06:16:51 pm
Nope, but he isn't here anymore, and had he had another good year, he wouldn't have stayed. He never stayed anywhere very long.
Maybe, maybe not...What does that even matter? So we want CBB to be average so he will stay and not bolt? lol... come on Rice really?
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 28, 2016, 06:50:43 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on November 28, 2016, 06:41:35 pm
You don't know that

History my friend, history. The odds are way in my favor that he would have moved to another job, he always did.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 28, 2016, 06:54:44 pm
Quote from: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 28, 2016, 06:50:05 pm
Maybe, maybe not...What does that even matter? So we want CBB to be average so he will stay and not bolt? lol... come on Rice really?

Nobody wants us to be "average", have I ever said that? Go back, I've said I support the coach at the university, he's here for two more years, so he has my support. Go ahead and make your comparisons, they don't matter either. It's the here and now, he's here for now, if he doesn't win enough to make those he decide these type of things, he'll be gone in two years
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 28, 2016, 06:55:50 pm
Quote from: ricepig on November 28, 2016, 06:54:44 pm
Nobody wants us to be "average", have I ever said that? Go back, I've said I support the coach at the university, he's here for two more years, so he has my support. Go ahead and make your comparisons, they don't matter either. It's the here and now, he's here for now, if he doesn't win enough to make those he decide these type of things, he'll be gone in two years
lol...ooookkkaaaaaayyyyy...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 28, 2016, 06:59:10 pm
Quote from: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 28, 2016, 06:55:50 pm
lol...ooookkkaaaaaayyyyy...

That's how I feel about all your posts, ha
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 28, 2016, 07:08:43 pm
Quote from: ricepig on November 28, 2016, 06:59:10 pm
That's how I feel about all your posts, ha
Yeah don't you hate it when facts get in the way...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 28, 2016, 07:14:11 pm
Quote from: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 28, 2016, 07:08:43 pm
Yeah don't you hate it when facts get in the way...

Figures lie, and liars figure, haha.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 28, 2016, 07:15:41 pm
Quote from: ricepig on November 28, 2016, 07:14:11 pm
Figures lie, and liars figure, haha.
Nobody better than you to know...lol...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on November 28, 2016, 07:16:43 pm
But coaching in the SEC is different than at Louisville. He could have stayed but regardless, he proved we could do better than what CBB has brought to the table. CBP leaves arkansas and 5 years later we are just making our way back to mediocre, CBB leaves Wisconsin and they never miss a beat and are in the Big10 title game and ranked #6 in the nation with a slight chance to be in the playoffs.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 28, 2016, 07:20:58 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on November 28, 2016, 07:16:43 pm
But coaching in the SEC is different than at Louisville. He could have stayed but regardless, he proved we could do better than what CBB has brought to the table. CBP leaves arkansas and 5 years later we are just making our way back to mediocre, CBB leaves Wisconsin and they never miss a beat and are in the Big10 title game and ranked #6 in the nation with a slight chance to be in the playoffs.


So, are you saying that Bielema left a good nucleus in Wisconsin, while Petrino left an empty house here?
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 28, 2016, 07:23:42 pm
Quote from: ricepig on November 28, 2016, 07:20:58 pm

So, are you saying that Bielema left a good nucleus in Wisconsin, while Petrino left an empty house here?
John L. Smith left Arkansas in bad shape with that one horrible year. Had CBP stayed we might still be rolling...who knows...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on November 28, 2016, 07:29:23 pm
Quote from: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 28, 2016, 07:23:42 pm
John L. Smith left Arkansas in bad shape with that one horrible year. Had CBP stayed we might still be rolling...who knows...

True, but I see no reason to dwell in the past. It's simple, we'll either get better the next two years, or we'll be in the coach search more.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: OB11 on November 28, 2016, 08:24:05 pm
Yeah, none of the other coaches CBB is being compared to had to come in and take over after John L.  So there is that to consider.  Had to have at least a little bit to do with the struggles out of the gate.  Now 4 years later...can't really use that excuse anymore.   
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on November 28, 2016, 08:28:35 pm
No, I'm saying one was replaceable and the other really wasn't
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bdubyab60 on December 04, 2016, 02:40:01 pm
So looking like the Bell bowl against Va Tech.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on December 05, 2016, 07:53:52 am
Quote from: OB11 on November 28, 2016, 08:24:05 pm
Yeah, none of the other coaches CBB is being compared to had to come in and take over after John L.  So there is that to consider.  Had to have at least a little bit to do with the struggles out of the gate.  Now 4 years later...can't really use that excuse anymore.   
HDN didn't leave CBP with much...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on December 05, 2016, 07:54:53 am
Quote from: bdubyab60 on December 04, 2016, 02:40:01 pm
So looking like the Bell bowl against Va Tech.
Another quality bowl for the Razorbacks...we very well could get pounded in this one...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bdubyab60 on December 05, 2016, 12:15:53 pm
Quote from: Coach Venny Slocombe on December 05, 2016, 07:54:53 am
Another quality bowl for the Razorbacks...we very well could get pounded in this one...
Yeah they just dropped 35 or so on Clemson in the ACC title game and have a breathing QB. Ill be watching this one from the house.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on December 05, 2016, 01:09:11 pm
Quote from: bdubyab60 on December 05, 2016, 12:15:53 pm
Yeah they just dropped 35 or so on Clemson in the ACC title game and have a breathing QB. Ill be watching this one from the house.
lol...yep...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: WPWells on December 05, 2016, 01:11:37 pm
I'm going to Charlotte for this one. I just hope it's not a blowout
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Jacketman65 on December 05, 2016, 07:42:03 pm
Could well be!
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bleudog on December 05, 2016, 09:42:49 pm
http://www.masseyratings.com/team.php?t=316&s=286577
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on December 06, 2016, 01:02:58 pm
Maybe since the hogs are playing FCS teams, we can get one of the in state schools on the schedule
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on December 06, 2016, 01:18:44 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on December 06, 2016, 01:02:58 pm
Maybe since the hogs are playing FCS teams, we can get one of the in state schools on the schedule

Doubtful, they've been playing a FCS team for years, why would they change now?
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: HorseFeathers on December 06, 2016, 02:26:10 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on December 06, 2016, 01:02:58 pm
Maybe since the hogs are playing FCS teams, we can get one of the in state schools on the schedule

Worked for A State this year.....
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bdubyab60 on December 06, 2016, 04:15:38 pm
Quote from: HorseFeathers on December 06, 2016, 02:26:10 pm
Worked for A State this year.....
Yeah Ive had this argument with some friends who are Astate fans bragging about their co championships. Maybe the Hogs should move to the sun-belt for a couple of seasons. Yeah I know we have lost to a couple of those teams over the years but they call those upsets.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: HorseFeathers on December 06, 2016, 05:56:32 pm
Quote from: bdubyab60 on December 06, 2016, 04:15:38 pm
Yeah Ive had this argument with some friends who are Astate fans bragging about their co championships. Maybe the Hogs should move to the sun-belt for a couple of seasons. Yeah I know we have lost to a couple of those teams over the years but they call those upsets.

I was meaning that game with UCA 8)
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bdubyab60 on December 06, 2016, 06:55:30 pm
Quote from: HorseFeathers on December 06, 2016, 05:56:32 pm
I was meaning that game with UCA 8)
Still helps me out with them don't it lol
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Valleysports on December 06, 2016, 07:09:09 pm
Quote from: bdubyab60 on December 06, 2016, 04:15:38 pm
Yeah Ive had this argument with some friends who are Astate fans bragging about their co championships. Maybe the Hogs should move to the sun-belt for a couple of seasons. Yeah I know we have lost to a couple of those teams over the years but they call those upsets.

Not the Sun Belt, but the Hogs would definitely have fun in the Big 10.  Ten wins season's are the norm.  CBB dominates that conference. 
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bdubyab60 on December 06, 2016, 09:46:07 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on December 06, 2016, 07:09:09 pm
Not the Sun Belt, but the Hogs would definitely have fun in the Big 10.  Ten wins season's are the norm.  CBB dominates that conference.
You may be right. Could absolutely be built for the big whatever lol
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on December 07, 2016, 09:50:02 am
Definitely not built for the S EC
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: VHSCoach2 on December 29, 2016, 03:21:40 pm
Jeremy Sprinkle suspended for the Belk Bowl due to  "conduct detrimental to the team."
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: beach bum on December 29, 2016, 03:29:09 pm
Quote from: VHSCoach2 on December 29, 2016, 03:21:40 pm
Jeremy Sprinkle suspended for the Belk Bowl due to  "conduct detrimental to the team."

I saw that and can't even believe it if it is true he shoplifted at Belk when they were already given $400 to shop with..... Unbelievable!
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: LRRandy on December 29, 2016, 03:32:32 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on December 06, 2016, 07:09:09 pm
Not the Sun Belt, but the Hogs would definitely have fun in the Big 10.  Ten wins season's are the norm.  CBB dominates that conference.
so you don't know what Arkansas record against the B1G is do you. Once again facts outweigh your opinion.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on December 29, 2016, 03:38:36 pm
Quote from: beach bum on December 29, 2016, 03:29:09 pm
I saw that and can't even believe it if it is true he shoplifted at Belk when they were already given $400 to shop with..... Unbelievable!

Idiot.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bdubyab60 on December 29, 2016, 08:01:22 pm
So I don't know what gets said at halftime, but what ever they are saying they need to stop it.

I don't care what anyone says this second half crap, if it keeps up next year. Someone's gotta go. This is ridiculous
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on December 29, 2016, 08:15:06 pm
Can we suspend the coaching staff for actions detrimental to the team? I don't think they know how to make adjustments or maybe they do and the always adjust the wrong way
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on December 29, 2016, 08:28:55 pm
Oh don't worry guys...Jeff Long and Rice gave CBB another four year extension after the first half...he is here another ten years... ;)
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on December 29, 2016, 08:30:05 pm
Well at least my season loss total prediction was correct
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Billie Blue on December 29, 2016, 08:47:21 pm
FIRE CBB!!! these last two games second half terrible
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: beach bum on December 29, 2016, 11:47:41 pm
Quote from: Billie Blue on December 29, 2016, 08:47:21 pm
FIRE CBB!!! these last two games second half terrible

What is sad is next year 8 wins would be that absolute top out of wins.... That is the most we potentially see. I am thinking 6-6 or 7-5 only because of 3 garbage non conference games. Welcome to the land of accepting mediocre teams with half the fans.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Trojanbird on December 30, 2016, 01:13:12 am
Let's keep expanding the stadium so we can see more EMPTY seats on TV if we are able to be on!  This is discraceful, all the more reason to be playing ASU!  Sprinkle, just turned into the biggest thug in the state of Arkansas, IMO!  Billema,  hot seat can't get hot enough!  Will he stand by his statement of "no changes"  Jeff Long needs to grow a set, and NOW, or move on.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: beach bum on December 30, 2016, 10:29:53 am
Quote from: Trojanbird on December 30, 2016, 01:13:12 am
Let's keep expanding the stadium so we can see more EMPTY seats on TV if we are able to be on!  This is discraceful, all the more reason to be playing ASU!  Sprinkle, just turned into the biggest thug in the state of Arkansas, IMO!  Billema,  hot seat can't get hot enough!  Will he stand by his statement of "no changes"  Jeff Long needs to grow a set, and NOW, or move on.

Sprinkle was listed as the #3 TE on draft boards.... He is very lucky he has the height he has or a would not even be drafted anymore. If I had to take a decent guess he will fall to the 6th or 7th round now and lost a lot of money along with a safety net of being a higher pick. If you're a 5th-7th rounder especially they will cut you in camp in August in a heart beat. He really messed things up for himself. I have always thought Drew Morgan behaved like an idiot and it showed this last game who he is. Throw in Skipper, other people had to have noticed this year too anytime we got down that guy started scuffling and mouthing anybody on the other team. Glad to see those three gone. BB has no control over his players.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on December 30, 2016, 01:18:23 pm
Skipper has been that way his entire career
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on December 30, 2016, 01:22:53 pm
Quote from: Trojanbird on December 30, 2016, 01:13:12 am
Let's keep expanding the stadium so we can see more EMPTY seats on TV if we are able to be on!  This is discraceful, all the more reason to be playing ASU!  Sprinkle, just turned into the biggest thug in the state of Arkansas, IMO!  Billema,  hot seat can't get hot enough!  Will he stand by his statement of "no changes"  Jeff Long needs to grow a set, and NOW, or move on.

We had 103% of capacity at RRS this year, so there's that.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Romeo on December 30, 2016, 02:59:10 pm
According to an ESPN stat, Arkansas outscored opponents 257-170 in the first half, but were outscored 234-137 in the second half.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: beach bum on December 30, 2016, 05:28:01 pm
Quote from: ricepig on December 30, 2016, 01:22:53 pm
We had 103% of capacity at RRS this year, so there's that.

And only people with no ability to think would keep forking out big money to watch that garbage in person the coming years.... Send BB to to Iowa to take over for Ferentz when he retires. They can have him
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on December 30, 2016, 05:36:41 pm
Quote from: beach bum on December 30, 2016, 05:28:01 pm
And only people with no ability to think would keep forking out big money to watch that garbage in person the coming years.... Send BB to to Iowa to take over for Ferentz when he retires. They can have him

I guess you're a bandwagon fan? I guess you're not an alum, you don't enjoy going back to the campus, tailgating with old friends from school, cheering on your alma mater?
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on December 30, 2016, 05:59:23 pm
Honestly the true fans are the ones upset. They want the team on the hill to succeed and aren't afraid to call a spade a spade. The ones not POd by now are accepting mediocrity and I wouldn't call them fans. Everyone wants to say we aren't Alabama and can't get the players they get, and to some degree I agree, BUT, do you think the Alabama fans would except being mediocre/bad? ELL NO!!! And in my opinion I think that's why they are so good because the fans will not tolerate anything less then greatness
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on December 30, 2016, 06:04:46 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on December 30, 2016, 05:59:23 pm
Honestly the true fans are the ones upset. They want the team on the hill to succeed and aren't afraid to call a spade a spade. The ones not POd by now are accepting mediocrity and I wouldn't call them fans. Everyone wants to say we aren't Alabama and can't get the players they get, and to some degree I agree, BUT, do you think the Alabama fans would except being mediocre/bad? ELL NO!!! And in my opinion I think that's why they are so good because the fans will not tolerate anything less then greatness

Everyone is upset, but we've been upset since 1992 for the most part. It's using that reality thing all the "realists" like to use to justify their negatives.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on December 30, 2016, 06:12:59 pm
Not everyone is upset, some of my cardinal glasses wearing buddies are still saying he's a good coach and I'm sure some of the big money guys are too. I'm realistic and know we can't afford to get rid of him now, but I would get rid of Long for making the huge mistake of extending his contract when he hadn't even won a conference game yet. That ineptitude of decision making is why his buyout is still so big
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on December 30, 2016, 07:31:13 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on December 30, 2016, 06:12:59 pm
Not everyone is upset, some of my cardinal glasses wearing buddies are still saying he's a good coach and I'm sure some of the big money guys are too. I'm realistic and know we can't afford to get rid of him now, but I would get rid of Long for making the huge mistake of extending his contract when he hadn't even won a conference game yet. That ineptitude of decision making is why his buyout is still so big

He extended his contract after the Texas Bowl, we won two that year.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: mack on December 30, 2016, 08:01:09 pm
Quote from: ricepig on December 30, 2016, 06:04:46 pm
Everyone is upset, but we've been upset since 1992 for the most part. It's using that reality thing all the "realists" like to use to justify their negatives.

Yep.  No one is  happy.  I'm sure not.  Firing him now doesn't put us in any better position.
I'm probably less confident in coach B than at any point.  Still, who are you going to get with a better pedigree, who's had more success?  No more extensions, get the buyout down..  If it's not better in 2, adios with a smaller buyout and full recruiting classes for his successor.  Personally, I hope he turns it around.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on December 30, 2016, 08:41:27 pm
Quote from: mack on December 30, 2016, 08:01:09 pm
Yep.  No one is  happy.  I'm sure not.  Firing him now doesn't put us in any better position.
I'm probably less confident in coach B than at any point.  Still, who are you going to get with a better pedigree, who's had more success?  No more extensions, get the buyout down..  If it's not better in 2, adios with a smaller buyout and full recruiting classes for his successor.  Personally, I hope he turns it around.

Yep, patience is needed by all, either it gets turned around, or we get a new coach.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on December 30, 2016, 08:56:07 pm
Quote from: ricepig on December 30, 2016, 05:36:41 pm
I guess you're a bandwagon fan? I guess you're not an alum, you don't enjoy going back to the campus, tailgating with old friends from school, cheering on your alma mater?

These kinds of comments are just as stupid as the "well I am a season ticket holder.....so I have the right to call shots.." comments.

Who gives a crap if someone is an alum or not. That state university is funded through every tax payer in this state.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on December 30, 2016, 08:56:57 pm
Quote from: ricepig on December 30, 2016, 08:41:27 pm
Yep, patience is needed by all, either it gets turned around, or we get a new coach.

Yup, either way....that is one of the two things that will happen.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on December 30, 2016, 08:59:33 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on December 30, 2016, 08:56:07 pm
These kinds of comments are just as stupid as the "well I am a season ticket holder.....so I have the right to call shots.." comments.

Who gives a crap if someone is an alum or not. That state university is funded through every tax payer in this state.

But not the athletic department. The point is it means something to an alum to go back to his alma mater, something you obviously don't understand. Not every alum feels this way, but lots do.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on December 30, 2016, 09:00:25 pm
Quote from: ricepig on December 30, 2016, 08:59:33 pm
But not the athletic department. The point is it means something to an alum to go back to his alma mater, something you obviously don't understand. Not every alum feels this way, but lots do.

Ive grown up. I don't need to go back to my college years every year to feel like I am someone.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on December 30, 2016, 09:01:47 pm
The point is. You're opinion is no more special or more special than fans like cuck and I.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on December 30, 2016, 09:02:49 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on December 30, 2016, 09:00:25 pm
Ive grown up. I don't need to go back to my college years every year to feel like I am someone.

I go to see friends that I usually only see at a game.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on December 30, 2016, 09:04:17 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on December 30, 2016, 09:01:47 pm
The point is. You're opinion is no more special or more special than fans like cuck and I.

I never said it was, but those with more "skin" in the games is. It's always been that way, money talks, b.s. walks.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on December 30, 2016, 09:49:00 pm
Well the money Bert is making hardly says a word. Someone give him a hot blonde and a motorcycle, please!! Stolen from fb
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on December 30, 2016, 11:01:14 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on December 30, 2016, 09:49:00 pm
Well the money Bert is making hardly says a word. Someone give him a hot blonde and a motorcycle, please!! Stolen from fb

Problem is. He has a wife that he loves. And she is a blonde. That ain't going to get him out of here haha
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on December 30, 2016, 11:07:49 pm
Quote from: ricepig on December 30, 2016, 09:04:17 pm
I never said it was, but those with more "skin" in the games is. It's always been that way, money talks, b.s. walks.
You don't have anymore skin in the game than anyone else rice. You want everyone to think you are some bigshot because you say you know somebody. Get real, you have no more knowledge or skin in the game than AW, Cuck, Randy or myself...and your opinion means no more or less than ours. Quit trying to convince everyone how and when they should support the program...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on December 30, 2016, 11:10:15 pm
Quote from: Coach Venny Slocombe on December 30, 2016, 11:07:49 pm
You don't have anymore skin in the game than anyone else rice. You want everyone to think you are some bigshot because you say you know somebody. Get real, you have no more knowledge or skin in the game than AW, Cuck, Randy or myself...and your opinion means no more or less than ours. Quit trying to convince everyone how and when they should support the program...

I support the program by purchasing shirts occasionally and cheering them on from home. I have a decal on my truck and a hog license plate. And that is enough. And that should be enough. I didn't know there were "levels of how important a fan is".
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on December 30, 2016, 11:14:06 pm
I've been wondering how they conceived, he can't seem to finish...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on December 30, 2016, 11:17:08 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on December 30, 2016, 11:14:06 pm
I've been wondering how they conceived, he can't seem to finish...

He finishes when it matters apparently haha. Kudos to him.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on December 30, 2016, 11:20:50 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on December 30, 2016, 11:10:15 pm
I support the program by purchasing shirts occasionally and cheering them on from home. I have a decal on my truck and a hog license plate. And that is enough. And that should be enough. I didn't know there were "levels of how important a fan is".
Exactly. I was a season ticket holder since 1981 to 2002. Couldn't take HDN anymore...when CBP came in I got back in and am still in. I don't brag about it on here...because it means nothing. I over pay for a PP just because...I have friends that have season tickets also...I see them at games...WOW! I saw a friend at the game...I tailgated...Oh boy! Sheeeezzz O Pete...what does it matter? I don't spend a ton of money, my opinion doesn't matter...but I DON"T HAVE TO RENEW MY SEASON TICKETS or PP...that is my choice. Will the foundation care...no, they won't...but that still doesn't mean I am not a hog fan because I don't tailgate with my friends and sing CBB's praises regardless of the outcome of games...I'm with ya AW...
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on December 30, 2016, 11:22:48 pm
+1
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: WPWells on December 30, 2016, 11:27:16 pm
I'm a student at the university. I forked over the money to go to TCU, Arlington, Mizzou, and Charlotte this year. I was at 10 of the 13 games.

I'm still not more important than anyone else.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on December 30, 2016, 11:30:49 pm
I think rice has little man syndrome, that's why he feels the need to brag about being a season ticket holder and tailgating with his frat boys. How big a boy are ya Rice? RD Mercer
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on December 30, 2016, 11:31:15 pm
Quote from: WPWells on December 30, 2016, 11:27:16 pm
I'm a student at the university. I forked over the money to go to TCU, Arlington, Mizzou, and Charlotte this year. I was at 10 of the 13 games.

I'm still not more important than anyone else.

Don't tell some of your fellow "alumni brethren" that. You'll be exiled.

I'm a graduate of the UNIVERSITY OF ARKANSAS at Monticello. A sister school of the "mother ship". I guess I'm a second tier level of importance when it comes to calling the shots. MY OPINION MATTERS to ya know.

All UOFA SCHOOLS LIVES MATTERS. 
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: WPWells on December 30, 2016, 11:35:05 pm
It's probably because I'm not in a frat. I chose a college ministry instead.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on December 30, 2016, 11:36:37 pm
Quote from: WPWells on December 30, 2016, 11:35:05 pm
It's probably because I'm not in a frat. I chose a college ministry instead.

Oh goodness. You're one of those evil Christians the media talks about. Haha
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on December 30, 2016, 11:36:48 pm
Kudos to you wells, that's much more important

AW that quote may be the funniest I've ever read from you! +1
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: WPWells on December 30, 2016, 11:37:31 pm
Now, all this said, I want to believe that Bielema has it in him. I'm willing to give him another year to show something. He'll return a second-year starter at quarterback and experience at most positions.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on December 30, 2016, 11:38:48 pm
#AUofASLM
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on December 30, 2016, 11:39:29 pm
Quote from: WPWells on December 30, 2016, 11:37:31 pm
Now, all this said, I want to believe that Bielema has it in him. I'm willing to give him another year to show something. He'll return a second-year starter at quarterback and experience at most positions.

Same here. I want him to succeed. I hate coaching turnover. Especially when we have one that seems to like it here. But I just have a gut feeling he and Jen will be looking elsewhere once baby Bielema is born.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on December 30, 2016, 11:43:32 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on December 30, 2016, 11:38:48 pm
#AUofASLM

Uam guy standing by a UAF Guy. My sign says, "does my life matter less than his"?
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: cuckoobird on December 30, 2016, 11:45:35 pm
Oh you're going to get it now, UAF, hahahahahahahaha
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: WPWells on December 30, 2016, 11:54:44 pm
Why would you stand by someone from the University of Alaska - Fairbanks?
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: AirWarren on December 30, 2016, 11:56:38 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on December 30, 2016, 11:45:35 pm
Oh you're going to get it now, UAF, hahahahahahahaha

Fixed. I forgot to capitalize UAM like UAF.

UAM guy standing by a UAF Guy. My sign says, "does my life matter less than his"?
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: bleudog on December 31, 2016, 08:14:34 am
Quote from: WPWells on December 30, 2016, 11:54:44 pm
Why would you stand by someone from the University of Alaska - Fairbanks?

http://www.uasys.edu/campuses-affiliates/universities/fayetteville/
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: LRRandy on December 31, 2016, 08:26:44 am
Quote from: AirWarren on December 30, 2016, 11:10:15 pm
I support the program by purchasing shirts occasionally and cheering them on from home. I have a decal on my truck and a hog license plate. And that is enough. And that should be enough. I didn't know there were "levels of how important a fan is".
there are more fans like you in this state than those that donate to the cartel (razorback foundation). The state wide passion for the Hogs transcends socio-economic boundaries. Rice exemplifies the NWA "wine and cheese, I'm better than you, I know more than you" crowd. Aren't you on the wrong side of the state for that rice?
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: ricepig on December 31, 2016, 08:45:23 am
Quote from: Coach Venny Slocombe on December 30, 2016, 11:07:49 pm
You don't have anymore skin in the game than anyone else rice. You want everyone to think you are some bigshot because you say you know somebody. Get real, you have no more knowledge or skin in the game than AW, Cuck, Randy or myself...and your opinion means no more or less than ours. Quit trying to convince everyone how and when they should support the program...

My goodness, you're ignorant. I never said I did, I said those who contribute a lot, hold more "skin". If you don't want to read what I post, use the ignore feature, lol.
Title: Re: 2016 Outlook
Post by: Brian G on December 31, 2016, 08:50:12 am
The End.