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Title: Beebe HC Open
Post by: WTD on December 05, 2018, 10:13:09 am
The job has been posted on the AAEA job site.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: Pat Swilling on December 05, 2018, 10:28:04 am
I can't help but believe this is a pretty good job.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: doggieskoot2 on December 05, 2018, 12:05:40 pm
Good job except the LRC and PA part.    Everything else seems good.

After going 4-6 what was the reason for the previous coach leaving?  Move on or pushed out?
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: TrenchHogs on December 05, 2018, 01:29:10 pm
Coach Shannon is stepping down as head coach. He will continue his teaching duties at the High School.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: softballfan22 on December 05, 2018, 03:11:53 pm
WITHOUT QUESTION: Des Arc head coach and Beebe Alum Drake Widener will be the New Head Coach.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: sevenof400 on December 05, 2018, 05:57:25 pm
Quote from: Pat Swilling on December 05, 2018, 10:28:04 am
I can't help but believe this is a pretty good job.

Please elaborate on why you believe this.  I'm not saying you are right / wrong, just curious for the basis of your POV.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: Bondfan4ever on December 05, 2018, 07:31:35 pm
Seven, I might be able to elaborate a bit.  I know I have a bit of an unfair advantage because of what I do, and the fact that I've lived in Beebe for 46 years.  The Beebe School District is growing, with excellent facilities.  As far as the city of Beebe, we are now over 8,000 in population and continues to grow.  With U.S. 67 getting designated as "future I-57" with the future hopefully coming off soon, the sky is the limit as far as potential business growth.  Beebe is about 40 miles south of Greers Ferry Lake, 35 or so miles east of Lake Conway, plus, we're at the foothills of the Ozarks.  The reputation of the school district is generally good with good athletic facilities.  Hopefully, that answers your question.  Didn't mean to sound like the Chamber of Commerce.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: sevenof400 on December 05, 2018, 07:45:03 pm
Now of course I knew you would say these things, Bondfan4ever  ;D

I was curious though if Pat had a different insight.  I'm sure the C of C and the B of E will thank you for your efforts though!

Seriously though, you do raise a couple of interesting points (perhaps in the longer term though).  I'm not sure when I-57 will come to reality but the additional traffic through the area would surely bring more business to the area - and, in turn, more people.  Might have to think about Beebe moving to the 6A in a decade (give or take)...
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: beebefootballfan on December 06, 2018, 09:33:35 am
Drake is the logical choice if he decides to apply.  I just hope people of Beebe realize they won't be seeing a big change in offensive philosophy. He throws it more out of the T but he still runs the T.  I think he would do a great job there and would have a much better rapport with the players and their families than what has been seen in the past.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: Pat Swilling on December 06, 2018, 09:55:02 am
Quote from: sevenof400 on December 05, 2018, 05:57:25 pm
Please elaborate on why you believe this.  I'm not saying you are right / wrong, just curious for the basis of your POV.
I said pretty good job.  Not Great.  Beebe is a good school, program, community.  If LRCA and PA were not in the league then I might call it a great job.  With the AAA you never know how long they will be in the same league.  From the outside it looks like a good place.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: Pat Swilling on December 06, 2018, 10:41:46 am
Does Beebe have an indoor football facility?
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: beebefootballfan on December 06, 2018, 11:59:10 am
Yes

Also Chris Gunter will probably get a look. I suspect it will be him or Drake who get the job. Both would be good fits.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: arkansasprepfootball on December 06, 2018, 12:01:38 pm
Quote from: beebefootballfan on December 06, 2018, 09:33:35 am
Drake is the logical choice if he decides to apply.  I just hope people of Beebe realize they won't be seeing a big change in offensive philosophy. He throws it more out of the T but he still runs the T.  I think he would do a great job there and would have a much better rapport with the players and their families than what has been seen in the past.

What a coach does in one situation does not necessarily mean that is what they'd run in the next.  Coach Widener could remain Wing-T at a bigger stop, could also open it up a bit more with better numbers and different talent level.  Hire the person, not the system.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: Pat Swilling on December 07, 2018, 09:11:10 am
Surprised Mark King's name hasn't been mentioned yet. 
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: i40traveler on December 07, 2018, 09:13:30 am
I'm sure they'll go after some of these state title coaches too.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: Pat Swilling on December 07, 2018, 09:23:36 am
Quote from: i40traveler on December 07, 2018, 09:13:30 am
I'm sure they'll go after some of these state title coaches too.
totally agree.  people always want to get in a big rush.  thats why its dangerous to hire before Christmas.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: Bondfan4ever on December 10, 2018, 06:00:13 pm
Some interesting names have already applied for the position. I will not release any names unless I get the okay from the individuals themselves, but some names familiar to the eastern half of the state have applied and two out of state applicants have thrown their names in the hat. 
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: youhavenoidea on December 11, 2018, 08:36:07 am
Quote from: Bondfan4ever on December 10, 2018, 06:00:13 pm
Some interesting names have already applied for the position. I will not release any names unless I get the okay from the individuals themselves, but some names familiar to the eastern half of the state have applied and two out of state applicants have thrown their names in the hat.
ah yes, the famous I've got some names from a cousins neighbors sister-in-laws babysitter bus driver info but I can't say anything, I'll just post on here that I heard some names...sure its legit
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: Rida4Life on December 11, 2018, 09:09:41 am
Quote from: Pat Swilling on December 07, 2018, 09:11:10 am
Surprised Mark King's name hasn't been mentioned yet. 

^I think you did.... LOL
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: Pick_DA_EAGLES on December 11, 2018, 11:20:28 am
Quote from: softballfan22 on December 05, 2018, 03:11:53 pm
WITHOUT QUESTION: Des Arc head coach and Beebe Alum Drake Widener will be the New Head Coach.


inaccurate statement
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: gcsdad on December 11, 2018, 11:44:21 am
Quote from: pick_DA_EAGLES on December 11, 2018, 11:20:28 am

inaccurate statement
If Beebe wants Drake they get him. Don't kid yourself. There are others in front of him in the pecking order. Kind of puzzling though. Gunter doesn't teach a class and would take a paycut at Beebe. Not real sure what the Beebe people think they're gonna get. It's kind of a rough job. I wouldn't think our HC would leave Stuttgart either for Beebe.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: mastiff on December 11, 2018, 11:57:35 am
This makes me chuckle. If things don't change that go with the HC position, you won't get a decent candidate at all.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: nuttinbuthogs on December 11, 2018, 12:06:56 pm
Quote from: Pat Swilling on December 07, 2018, 09:23:36 am
Quote from: i40traveler on December 07, 2018, 09:13:30 am
I'm sure they'll go after some of these state title coaches too.
totally agree.  people always want to get in a big rush.  thats why its dangerous to hire before Christmas.

What would attrack a state title coach?  3 winning seasons in 10 years, got to be a tough place to coach and win.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: Pick_DA_EAGLES on December 11, 2018, 12:33:14 pm
Quote from: gcsdad on December 11, 2018, 11:44:21 am
If Beebe wants Drake they get him. Don't kid yourself. There are others in front of him in the pecking order. Kind of puzzling though. Gunter doesn't teach a class and would take a paycut at Beebe. Not real sure what the Beebe people think they're gonna get. It's kind of a rough job. I wouldn't think our HC would leave Stuttgart either for Beebe.

not kidding myself. just know what I been told. not saying he may not end up there, but im saying he is not a shoe in. don't always get what ya want.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: Bondfan4ever on December 11, 2018, 08:54:55 pm
In earlier posts, one or two have doubted what I had said about applicants.  Those individuals, as well as anyone else, are welcome to listen to B2 Internet Radio's Wednesday news update, which airs at 7 am, noon, and 5 pm.  Two of the coaches I reached out to for permission to publicly name them got back with me and gave me their okay.  We will be mentioning a little about their backgrounds in the news article also.  You can listen to the station either by going to www.b2internetradio.com or you can download it for Apple or Android today.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: beebefootballfan on December 11, 2018, 09:20:16 pm
Eagles is 100% accurate.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: arkansasFBscoop on December 12, 2018, 02:46:18 am
Quote from: beebefootballfan on December 11, 2018, 09:20:16 pm
Eagles is 100% accurate.

Yep, he is spot on.

Have to remember - new superintendent in place.  Pretty well connected athletically.  I doubt he'll feel obligated to stay with local guy.  5A job, decent money, location, support - they'll draw quality candidates.  Widener may very well wind up with position, but idea that it is a lock is flat out wrong as Pick said.

Curious if Chris Smith from Germantown (TN) is involved in this.  Know his named was mentioned with Cabot.  He'd be a great candidate here, not going to get Cabot job.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: nudae58 on December 12, 2018, 07:51:17 am
Quote from: arkansasFBscoop on December 12, 2018, 02:46:18 am


Curious if Chris Smith from Germantown (TN) is involved in this.  Know his named was mentioned with Cabot.  He'd be a great candidate here, not going to get Cabot job.

No, he is not a candidate for Beebe job. Most likely moving on from Germantown though after going 23-2 last two seasons at the highest level of football in Tennessee. Heard he does want to get back in Arkansas, but is even entertaining offers for next level offensive jobs.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: TrenchHogs on December 12, 2018, 12:09:52 pm
Quote from: gcsdad on December 11, 2018, 11:44:21 am
If Beebe wants Drake they get him. Don't kid yourself. There are others in front of him in the pecking order. Kind of puzzling though. Gunter doesn't teach a class and would take a paycut at Beebe. Not real sure what the Beebe people think they're gonna get. It's kind of a rough job. I wouldn't think our HC would leave Stuttgart either for Beebe.

I wouldn't say rough job. They have the athletes to have more success. Will always be tough in the 5A central with the private schools... I hear it is Drake's job for the taking.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: Pick_DA_EAGLES on December 12, 2018, 01:16:20 pm
Quote from: TrenchHogs on December 12, 2018, 12:09:52 pm
I wouldn't say rough job. They have the athletes to have more success. Will always be tough in the 5A central with the private schools... I hear it is Drake's job for the taking.


I hear he doesn't want it.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: mastiff on December 12, 2018, 02:36:20 pm
Drake would be a good one. He could do good things. He would make sure that his kids are tough. He is super tough himself. I heard he once ate a ham and cheese sandwich and he didn't even bother to take the cheese out of the plastic. That's the kind of guy I would want coaching my team.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: tigerblood on December 12, 2018, 09:41:29 pm
Tough Houdini tough...we're talking about a man who once wrestled a black panther with his bare hands while his assistants chased each other on roller skates. A man who rode in a game not only on the wings of eagles, but also on a white horse. Heck, if he was a bit more Jewish looking I'd be convinced he might be the second coming of Jesus Christ himself. Give this man the helm and he just might turn Badger land in to a respectable place again. Imagining Eagle country without ole Houdini Widener is like my ice chest without a good cold natty! But he'd be a homerun for this Beebe job. Alum who has been super successful as the head man. Houdini these next 13 nattys are for you! Bout to stone cold every one of them.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: Bondfan4ever on December 12, 2018, 10:05:40 pm
On Thursday's news update on B2 Internet Radio, we will be confirming two more applicants for the position, including one from what may be considered a powerhouse in this region of the country.  For those interested, our news updates air at 7 am, noon, and 5 pm, every weekday and you can listen to the station either by going to www.b2internetradio.com or by downloading the app for Apple or Android.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: AT on December 13, 2018, 07:53:24 am
I will be interested myself if Coach Gunter applies for the position at Beebe, his alma mater. The guy is an offensive genius.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: Rida4Life on December 13, 2018, 10:44:11 am
I'm betting it's Widener or King.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: Pick_DA_EAGLES on December 13, 2018, 10:58:15 am
Quote from: Rida4Life on December 13, 2018, 10:44:11 am
I'm betting it's Widener or King.

if you expect to win the bet, you better hope its King.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: gcsdad on December 13, 2018, 11:35:23 am
Quote from: pick_DA_EAGLES on December 13, 2018, 10:58:15 am
if you expect to win the bet, you better hope its King.
I know you love your Eagles, and Drake is down in the pecking order, however, if you think that if Beebe offers Drake and he's gonna turn it down you are the biggest homer I've ever seen. I doubt he gets offered though.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: Redwolves8526 on December 13, 2018, 11:47:17 am
Quote from: gcsdad on December 13, 2018, 11:35:23 am
I know you love your Eagles, and Drake is down in the pecking order, however, if you think that if Beebe offers Drake and he's gonna turn it down you are the biggest homer I've ever seen. I doubt he gets offered though.

I don't see Beebe hiring someone who runs an under center run O.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: gcsdad on December 13, 2018, 12:07:40 pm
Quote from: Redwolves8526 on December 13, 2018, 11:47:17 am
I don't see Beebe hiring someone who runs an under center run O.
I don't see scheme being a deal breaker with anyone. It's about getting the best guy. Just to add to the widener thing, I don't see him getting an offer but he would get an $8373.94 raise at Beebe compared to Des Arc. I don't see him turning down the opportunity at his alma mater.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: Pick_DA_EAGLES on December 13, 2018, 12:39:33 pm
Quote from: gcsdad on December 13, 2018, 11:35:23 am
I know you love your Eagles, and Drake is down in the pecking order, however, if you think that if Beebe offers Drake and he's gonna turn it down you are the biggest homer I've ever seen. I doubt he gets offered though.


yea, you are right. im just pulling this all out of thin air. I don't talk to him at all........ ::)
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: Pick_DA_EAGLES on December 13, 2018, 12:42:13 pm
Quote from: gcsdad on December 13, 2018, 12:07:40 pm
I don't see scheme being a deal breaker with anyone. It's about getting the best guy. Just to add to the widener thing, I don't see him getting an offer but he would get an $8373.94 raise at Beebe compared to Des Arc. I don't see him turning down the opportunity at his alma mater.


an 8k a year raise for a job with no security? when he can stay at des arc as long as he wants with little chance of getting fired.


and scheme seems to be a big deal to beebe. they want to run they spread......
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: i40traveler on December 13, 2018, 01:34:58 pm
8K is a big deal when you're making say 50K.  8K is a big deal for a small town fball coach
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: Pick_DA_EAGLES on December 13, 2018, 01:56:06 pm
Quote from: i40traveler on December 13, 2018, 01:34:58 pm
8K is a big deal when you're making say 50K.  8K is a big deal for a small town fball coach


that's less than 800 a month, now if you were talking 20+ more a year, the risk may be worth it.
not when there is no security at beebe. you know how long it has been since des arc fired a coach for lack of performance? cause I don't. you know how long its been sine beebe did? I do.

and be like Prescott who went to bauxite and is plum out of coaching now. job security is a plus when you have a young child.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: Jimbo Morphis on December 13, 2018, 03:08:33 pm
Quote from: pick_DA_EAGLES on December 13, 2018, 01:56:06 pm

that's less than 800 a month, now if you were talking 20+ more a year, the risk may be worth it.
not when there is no security at beebe. you know how long it has been since des arc fired a coach for lack of performance? cause I don't. you know how long its been sine beebe did? I do.

and be like Prescott who went to bauxite and is plum out of coaching now. job security is a plus when you have a young child.
Would love to know what you do for a living. $800 is a house payment.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: Pick_DA_EAGLES on December 13, 2018, 03:27:56 pm
Quote from: Oldman on December 13, 2018, 03:08:33 pm
Would love to know what you do for a living. $800 is a house payment.


yes it is, but 50k with pretty much job security for as long as you want to coach is a WHOLE lot more than 58k for 4-6 years if you do not win a certain amount of games that are probably unrealistic at beebe.

beebe is not gonna win a conference title or a state title till p.a. and l.r.c. go away.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: Kraig Crist on December 13, 2018, 04:44:09 pm
Quote from: pick_DA_EAGLES on December 13, 2018, 03:27:56 pm

yes it is, but 50k with pretty much job security for as long as you want to coach is a WHOLE lot more than 58k for 4-6 years if you do not win a certain amount of games that are probably unrealistic at beebe.

beebe is not gonna win a conference title or a state title till p.a. and l.r.c. go away.

Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: incogneto on December 13, 2018, 07:13:23 pm
Quote from: pick_DA_EAGLES on December 13, 2018, 03:27:56 pm

yes it is, but 50k with pretty much job security for as long as you want to coach is a WHOLE lot more than 58k for 4-6 years if you do not win a certain amount of games that are probably unrealistic at beebe.

beebe is not gonna win a conference title or a state title till p.a. and l.r.c. go away.
PA and LRCA are very capable of having a down cycle.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: Pick_DA_EAGLES on December 13, 2018, 07:48:36 pm
Quote from: incogneto on December 13, 2018, 07:13:23 pm
PA and LRCA are very capable of having a down cycle.

L.R.C. maybe, P.A. naw.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: Bondfan4ever on December 13, 2018, 08:36:58 pm
As of Thursday evening, there have been 13 applications received and 1/3 of them are from out of state.  It's obvious that the Beebe job has some stature to it for a relatively high percentage of out of state applications.  It will be interesting not only how many more applications come in, but the percentage of out of state applications that are received.  We will continue to release the names of those applicants on the B2 Internet Radio news updates, who give us the okay for their name to be mentioned.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: AirWarren on December 13, 2018, 09:18:59 pm
Quote from: pick_DA_EAGLES on December 13, 2018, 03:27:56 pm

yes it is, but 50k with pretty much job security for as long as you want to coach is a WHOLE lot more than 58k for 4-6 years if you do not win a certain amount of games that are probably unrealistic at beebe.

beebe is not gonna win a conference title or a state title till p.a. and l.r.c. go away.


How many state titles has he won at Des Arc?
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: Pick_DA_EAGLES on December 13, 2018, 10:25:36 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on December 13, 2018, 09:18:59 pm
How many state titles has he won at Des Arc?

Zero, so why would Beebe want him? I mean if he cant win one in 2A why would he be able to in 5A? I know you always say that 2A is not real football, have to be at least 4A to be considered.

Are you trying to make my argument for me?
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: AirWarren on December 14, 2018, 06:00:21 am
Quote from: pick_DA_EAGLES on December 13, 2018, 10:25:36 pm
Zero, so why would Beebe want him? I mean if he cant win one in 2A why would he be able to in 5A? I know you always say that 2A is not real football, have to be at least 4A to be considered.

Are you trying to make my argument for me?

Nope. Just curious.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: Pick_DA_EAGLES on December 14, 2018, 06:31:03 am
Quote from: AirWarren on December 14, 2018, 06:00:21 am
Nope. Just curious.

No state titles, but I think 2 conference titles, and played after Thanksgiving 3 of his 4 years.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: OB11 on December 14, 2018, 08:57:27 am
Quote from: Bondfan4ever on December 13, 2018, 08:36:58 pm
As of Thursday evening, there have been 13 applications received and 1/3 of them are from out of state.  It's obvious that the Beebe job has some stature to it for a relatively high percentage of out of state applications.  It will be interesting not only how many more applications come in, but the percentage of out of state applications that are received.  We will continue to release the names of those applicants on the B2 Internet Radio news updates, who give us the okay for their name to be mentioned.

Which states are these out of state applicants from? I think there is merit to having some out of state interest when a job opens up. But I know in other places (Oklahoma specifically) the pay for coaches is very low. There has been a lot of out of state interest in jobs recently and I think a big part of that is an increase in pay over what a coach can make in other states. Unless a coach is moving closer to home, I don't see many guys taking a pay cut to come coach Arkansas high school football.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: BlueCrew4U on December 14, 2018, 08:58:02 am
So a buddy who is a coach told me yesterday that this job requires teaching a full load of classes. 
That seems strange for a bigger school job.  Anyone know if there's truth to that? 
I'm betting coaches at Warren, Shiloh, Arkadelphia, PA.... don't teach all day long.
I said that to say this.... that'll be a hard no from some of your better applicants.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: Pick_DA_EAGLES on December 14, 2018, 09:38:02 am
Quote from: BlueCrew4U on December 14, 2018, 08:58:02 am
So a buddy who is a coach told me yesterday that this job requires teaching a full load of classes. 
That seems strange for a bigger school job.  Anyone know if there's truth to that? 
I'm betting coaches at Warren, Shiloh, Arkadelphia, PA.... don't teach all day long.
I said that to say this.... that'll be a hard no from some of your better applicants.


ding ding ding! and there are also other stips that coaches don't like.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: arkansasprepfootball on December 14, 2018, 09:58:30 am
Quote from: Bondfan4ever on December 13, 2018, 08:36:58 pm
As of Thursday evening, there have been 13 applications received and 1/3 of them are from out of state.  It's obvious that the Beebe job has some stature to it for a relatively high percentage of out of state applications.  It will be interesting not only how many more applications come in, but the percentage of out of state applications that are received.  We will continue to release the names of those applicants on the B2 Internet Radio news updates, who give us the okay for their name to be mentioned.

I think limited in-state applicants and number of out-of-state applicants speak to the issues of this job more than its "stature".
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: we_hate_the_band on December 14, 2018, 11:04:25 am
Quote from: arkansasprepfootball on December 14, 2018, 09:58:30 am
I think limited in-state applicants and number of out-of-state applicants speak to the issues of this job more than its "stature".

Riverview, a 4A job that just went 2-8, had 30 applicants.

That's incredible stature!
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: airitout on December 14, 2018, 11:19:59 am
Quote from: we_hate_the_band on December 14, 2018, 11:04:25 am
Riverview, a 4A job that just went 2-8, had 30 applicants.

That's incredible stature!

so who did Riverview hire?
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: Rida4Life on December 14, 2018, 12:14:31 pm
Quote from: arkansasprepfootball on December 14, 2018, 09:58:30 am
I think limited in-state applicants and number of out-of-state applicants speak to the issues of this job more than its "stature".

Where are the out of state applicants from?  I've heard coaches want out of Oklahoma like rats off a sinking ship.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: TrenchHogs on December 14, 2018, 12:17:47 pm
Quote from: BlueCrew4U on December 14, 2018, 08:58:02 am
So a buddy who is a coach told me yesterday that this job requires teaching a full load of classes. 
That seems strange for a bigger school job.  Anyone know if there's truth to that? 
I'm betting coaches at Warren, Shiloh, Arkadelphia, PA.... don't teach all day long.
I said that to say this.... that'll be a hard no from some of your better applicants.

Shannon is only in the classroom for 3 classes. He has 3 football periods, a prep, and double lunch duty.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: Idindonuffin on December 14, 2018, 12:24:46 pm
Quote from: TrenchHogs on December 14, 2018, 12:17:47 pm
Shannon is only in the classroom for 3 classes. He has 3 football periods, a prep, and double lunch duty.

Still a lot for a head coach in 5A. Something is going to play second banana.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: arkansasprepfootball on December 14, 2018, 12:34:13 pm
Quote from: Rida4Life on December 14, 2018, 12:14:31 pm
Where are the out of state applicants from?  I've heard coaches want out of Oklahoma like rats off a sinking ship.

Oklahoma education is a mess.  Have been several hires from Texas recently.  Some have gone well, some have been a mess like Monticello and Smackovers one-and-done guy.

I have not heard out-of-state names, only seen them mentioned here.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: OB11 on December 14, 2018, 12:37:23 pm
Quote from: arkansasprepfootball on December 14, 2018, 12:34:13 pm
Oklahoma education is a mess.  Have been several hires from Texas recently.  Some have gone well, some have been a mess like Monticello and Smackovers one-and-done guy.

I have not heard out-of-state names, only seen them mentioned here.

Is the Monticello job open?
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: arkansasprepfootball on December 14, 2018, 12:39:12 pm
Quote from: OB11 on December 14, 2018, 12:37:23 pm
Is the Monticello job open?

Not that I know of, just coming off 0-10 season with tons of drama.

Quote from: IMSwarmed on December 14, 2018, 12:24:46 pm
Still a lot for a head coach in 5A. Something is going to play second banana.

Teaching three classes isn't the reason they struggle and does not preclude you from winning at that level.  That's a bit of a cop-out.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: Idindonuffin on December 14, 2018, 05:14:50 pm
Quote from: arkansasprepfootball on December 14, 2018, 12:39:12 pm
Not that I know of, just coming off 0-10 season with tons of drama.

Teaching three classes isn't the reason they struggle and does not preclude you from winning at that level.  That's a bit of a cop-out.

Maybe not, but it is a factor in who is attracted to the job. It also indicates where football is on the pecking order.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: beebefootballfan on December 14, 2018, 06:53:43 pm
Quote from: BlueCrew4U on December 14, 2018, 08:58:02 am
So a buddy who is a coach told me yesterday that this job requires teaching a full load of classes. 
That seems strange for a bigger school job.  Anyone know if there's truth to that? 
I'm betting coaches at Warren, Shiloh, Arkadelphia, PA.... don't teach all day long.
I said that to say this.... that'll be a hard no from some of your better applicants.

That's just 1 of about 4 requirements that will put a dent in the candidate pool once they learn what they have to give up, and what they have to take on.  $8k raise will get you a guy looking to get out of his current position and will do it at any cost. It likely won't get you a quality guy though.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: sevenof400 on December 14, 2018, 07:06:16 pm
Quote from: pick_DA_EAGLES on December 14, 2018, 09:38:02 am

ding ding ding! and there are also other stips that coaches don't like.

Those pesky education demands can really crimp the 5 prep periods needed to see the forty sixth viewing of opponent film.....
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: AirWarren on December 14, 2018, 07:16:41 pm
Quote from: sevenof400 on December 14, 2018, 07:06:16 pm
Those pesky education demands can really crimp the 5 prep periods needed to see the forty sixth viewing of opponent film.....


Lol. Yup!
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: Sonofasonofasailor on December 15, 2018, 06:50:54 pm
Quote from: pick_DA_EAGLES on December 13, 2018, 03:27:56 pm

yes it is, but 50k with pretty much job security for as long as you want to coach is a WHOLE lot more than 58k for 4-6 years if you do not win a certain amount of games that are probably unrealistic at beebe.

beebe is not gonna win a conference title or a state title till p.a. and l.r.c. go away.

Doesn't an average of your highest three years' salary impact teacher retirement?  If so, a guy may want to take a chance on a higher paying job to get that bump. 
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: incogneto on December 16, 2018, 07:13:33 pm
Quote from: Sonofasonofasailor on December 15, 2018, 06:50:54 pm
Doesn't an average of your highest three years' salary impact teacher retirement?  If so, a guy may want to take a chance on a higher paying job to get that bump.
Changed to 5 years
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: Bondfan4ever on December 16, 2018, 09:11:29 pm
On Monday's news update, B2 Internet Radio will have a feature about another confirmed applicant for the position.  Hopefully, we will get more information as the week goes on.  For those unfamiliar with B2, our news updates air every weekday at 7 am, noon, and 5 pm and can be accessed either by going to www.b2internetradio.com or by downloading the app for either Apple or Android.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: Sonofasonofasailor on December 17, 2018, 06:31:23 am
Quote from: incogneto on December 16, 2018, 07:13:33 pm
Changed to 5 years

Thanks. 
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: nuttinbuthogs on December 17, 2018, 10:40:34 am
From what I hear it's not unusual at all for candidates from nearby states to apply for jobs in Arkansas.  I think lots of Arkansas coaches apply for out of state jobs as well.  For a 5A school to want to get the best quality they need to look at how many classes you are asking you HC to teach along with any additional duties, that and pay.  Then you have the fact that Beebe plays with PA and LRC, make winning that conference hard to say the least.  How to overcome, give the HC a very attractive salary, easy daily schedule and great facilities and support.    Seems some schools think coaches should flock to their school because the people there love it and think its a great opportunity.  Coaches seem to be more selective than school administrators.   
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: VHSCoach2 on December 17, 2018, 10:56:21 am
Quote from: nuttinbuthogs on December 17, 2018, 10:40:34 am
From what I hear it's not unusual at all for candidates from nearby states to apply for jobs in Arkansas.  I think lots of Arkansas coaches apply for out of state jobs as well.  For a 5A school to want to get the best quality they need to look at how many classes you are asking you HC to teach along with any additional duties, that and pay.  Then you have the fact that Beebe plays with PA and LRC, make winning that conference hard to say the least.  How to overcome, give the HC a very attractive salary, easy daily schedule and great facilities and support.    Seems some schools think coaches should flock to their school because the people there love it and think its a great opportunity.  Coaches seem to be more selective than school administrators.

Wish we could all have as easy of a schedule for the same amount of pay that head football coaches get.  ::)
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: LionX2 on December 17, 2018, 11:25:58 am
Quote from: VHSCoach2 on December 17, 2018, 10:56:21 am
Wish we could all have as easy of a schedule for the same amount of pay that head football coaches get.  ::)

I'm sure they would love to go to a job that didn't have a bunch of old has-beens yelling at them for being an idiot and bragging about how they would do a better job every year.

That's why so many go to selling insurance
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: incogneto on December 18, 2018, 07:11:19 am
Quote from: VHSCoach2 on December 17, 2018, 10:56:21 am
Wish we could all have as easy of a schedule for the same amount of pay that head football coaches get.  ::)
Sarcasm?
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: sevenof400 on December 18, 2018, 07:27:42 am
Quote from: incogneto on December 18, 2018, 07:11:19 am
Sarcasm?
Fact.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: MDXPHD on December 18, 2018, 09:53:36 am
Quote from: nuttinbuthogs on December 17, 2018, 10:40:34 am
From what I hear it's not unusual at all for candidates from nearby states to apply for jobs in Arkansas.  I think lots of Arkansas coaches apply for out of state jobs as well.  For a 5A school to want to get the best quality they need to look at how many classes you are asking you HC to teach along with any additional duties, that and pay.  Then you have the fact that Beebe plays with PA and LRC, make winning that conference hard to say the least.  How to overcome, give the HC a very attractive salary, easy daily schedule and great facilities and support.    Seems some schools think coaches should flock to their school because the people there love it and think its a great opportunity.  Coaches seem to be more selective than school administrators.

I'm slightly confused. We are talking about high school right?
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: Idindonuffin on December 18, 2018, 11:58:14 am
Quote from: MDXPHD on December 18, 2018, 09:53:36 am
I'm slightly confused. We are talking about high school right?

So assuming you want to change things, who wants to go first? Who wants to say, we're not playing this game anymore. The head coach is going to teach several classes and coach in his spare time on a stipend. I can see the applicants lining up now.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: incogneto on December 18, 2018, 06:21:57 pm
Quote from: IMSwarmed on December 18, 2018, 11:58:14 am
So assuming you want to change things, who wants to go first? Who wants to say, we're not playing this game anymore. The head coach is going to teach several classes and coach in his spare time on a stipend. I can see the applicants lining up now.
Hahahaha
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: Bondfan4ever on December 19, 2018, 06:20:23 am
Just in the past few days, the number of applicants has doubled as there are now 27 who have applied for the position.  Several more out of state applicants, along with some strong in state applicants have applied.  As we get confirmations on candidates for the job, B2 Internet Radio will update our listeners on this list. 
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: doggieskoot2 on December 19, 2018, 09:23:44 am
If I were a coach, I sure wouldn't want to apply to a job that blasts my name on the internet just for applying.  I would want it to stay discrete.   At least until the interview process.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: airitout on December 19, 2018, 09:35:10 am
Quote from: doggieskoot2 on December 19, 2018, 09:23:44 am
If I were a coach, I sure wouldn't want to apply to a job that blasts my name on the internet just for applying.  I would want it to stay discrete.   At least until the interview process.

so you want to blind side the employer who has been treating you the best they can for the last how many years?  hopefully you have a great relationship with them and they understand that you are bettering yourself.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: VHSCoach2 on December 19, 2018, 09:50:30 am
Quote from: doggieskoot2 on December 19, 2018, 09:23:44 am
If I were a coach, I sure wouldn't want to apply to a job that blasts my name on the internet just for applying.  I would want it to stay discrete.   At least until the interview process.

The only coaches whose names have been mentioned have given permission for their names to be reported.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: doggieskoot2 on December 19, 2018, 11:24:25 am
Backlash from a fan base would be the problem.   Administration usually understands.  Don't ever want your girlfriend to know you are looking to upgrade.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: Bondfan4ever on December 19, 2018, 10:04:00 pm
On Thursday's news update, B2 Internet Radio will confirm another applicant for the position of Head Football Coach.  For those interested, you can listen to our news update, which airs every weekday at 7 am, noon, and 5 pm, at www.b2internetradio.com or you can download the app for Apple or Android.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: Bondfan4ever on December 19, 2018, 10:07:16 pm
For those who might wonder, the only names that you'll hear on our news updates, are those who have given us permission to mention their name.  Not all the applicants have given us permission, and that's okay.  We will respect the wishes of the coaches who ask that their names not be mentioned.  B2 Internet Radio strives to bring our listeners timely information, but we will not sacrifice integrity just to get a "hot news story". 
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: Kraig Crist on December 20, 2018, 07:47:14 am
Quote from: Bondfan4ever on December 19, 2018, 10:07:16 pm
For those who might wonder, the only names that you'll hear on our news updates, are those who have given us permission to mention their name.  Not all the applicants have given us permission, and that's okay.  We will respect the wishes of the coaches who ask that their names not be mentioned.  B2 Internet Radio strives to bring our listeners timely information, but we will not sacrifice integrity just to get a "hot news story".

When I think BeeBe, Arkansas, I immediately think hot news story.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: airitout on December 20, 2018, 08:07:48 am
When do they plan on starting interviews, or have they started interviews?
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: doggieskoot2 on December 20, 2018, 08:48:24 am
someone listen to the webcast and put some names on here.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: Bondfan4ever on December 20, 2018, 10:17:53 pm
On Friday's news update on B2 Internet Radio(7 am/noon/5 pm), we will confirm 3 more names who have applied for the position of Head Football Coach and will also confirm some information concerning applications and when interviews will start.  For those interested, you can access the station by going to www.b2internetradio.com or you can download the app for either Apple or Android.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: Jimbo Morphis on December 21, 2018, 06:28:50 am
Quote from: Bondfan4ever on December 20, 2018, 10:17:53 pm
On Friday's news update on B2 Internet Radio(7 am/noon/5 pm), we will confirm 3 more names who have applied for the position of Head Football Coach and will also confirm some information concerning applications and when interviews will start.  For those interested, you can access the station by going to www.b2internetradio.com or you can download the app for either Apple or Android.  Thanks.
Orrrrrrrrrr you could just tell us.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: airitout on December 21, 2018, 07:33:52 am
Quote from: Bondfan4ever on December 20, 2018, 10:17:53 pm
On Friday's news update on B2 Internet Radio(7 am/noon/5 pm), we will confirm 3 more names who have applied for the position of Head Football Coach and will also confirm some information concerning applications and when interviews will start.  For those interested, you can access the station by going to www.b2internetradio.com or you can download the app for either Apple or Android.  Thanks.

if you miss the update times, is there a way to hear a replay?
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: MDXPHD on December 21, 2018, 10:27:40 am
Why don't y'all just post the names on here? If you're putting it on the radio, might as well put it on here.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: AirWarren on December 21, 2018, 10:32:07 am
Quote from: MDXPHD on December 21, 2018, 10:27:40 am
Why don't y'all just post the names on here? If you're putting it on the radio, might as well put it on here.

Lol. Because he is trying to get hits on that "hot" podcast there in BB, Arkansaw.

He is acting like this is Alabama naming a new head coach. It's freakin BB.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: Jimbo Morphis on December 21, 2018, 11:02:54 am
Quote from: AirWarren on December 21, 2018, 10:32:07 am
Lol. Because he is trying to get hits on that “hot” podcast there in BB, Arkansaw.

He is acting like this is Alabama naming a new head coach. It’s freakin BB.
Bazinga
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: VHSCoach2 on December 21, 2018, 12:23:19 pm
Does it really bother you all that much that the names aren't being posted on this forum? My goodness. Listening to the radio station being presented here is no different than the stations that you listen to in your morning and evening commutes.

If you're really that interested, it makes very minimal effort to click a link and listen to the names.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: AirWarren on December 21, 2018, 01:26:46 pm
Quote from: VHSCoach2 on December 21, 2018, 12:23:19 pm
Does it really bother you all that much that the names aren't being posted on this forum? My goodness. Listening to the radio station being presented here is no different than the stations that you listen to in your morning and evening commutes.

If you're really that interested, it makes very minimal effort to click a link and listen to the names.

I support FF.

NOT transistor rural radio/podcasts.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: Jimbo Morphis on December 21, 2018, 01:27:38 pm
Quote from: VHSCoach2 on December 21, 2018, 12:23:19 pm
Does it really bother you all that much that the names aren't being posted on this forum? My goodness. Listening to the radio station being presented here is no different than the stations that you listen to in your morning and evening commutes.

If you're really that interested, it makes very minimal effort to click a link and listen to the names.
Are we in trouble?
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: VHSCoach2 on December 21, 2018, 02:00:03 pm
Quote from: Oldman on December 21, 2018, 01:27:38 pm
Are we in trouble?

Trouble? No. Bothered by something so trivial as names not being posted on a forum? Most certainly.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: AirWarren on December 21, 2018, 02:02:54 pm
Quote from: VHSCoach2 on December 21, 2018, 02:00:03 pm
Trouble? No. Bothered by something so trivial as names not being posted on a forum? Most certainly.

Well, this forum was designed for Arkansas high school football news and gossip.

Personally have no interest in it. It will be released one day anyways.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: Pick_DA_EAGLES on December 21, 2018, 02:24:46 pm
Quote from: VHSCoach2 on December 21, 2018, 12:23:19 pm
Does it really bother you all that much that the names aren't being posted on this forum? My goodness. Listening to the radio station being presented here is no different than the stations that you listen to in your morning and evening commutes.

If you're really that interested, it makes very minimal effort to click a link and listen to the names.

No offense, but I seriously doubt, your morning show is as good as the Buzz morning show. which is what I listen too.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: VHSCoach2 on December 21, 2018, 02:37:21 pm
Quote from: pick_DA_EAGLES on December 21, 2018, 02:24:46 pm
No offense, but I seriously doubt, your morning show is as good as the Buzz morning show. which is what I listen too.

Not my morning show. However, I have listened to it and can gather an opinion on it more than those who have not.

I have never listened to the Buzz morning show (in fact, barely even heard of it), so you'd be more apt at an opinion for that one.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: MDXPHD on December 21, 2018, 04:37:59 pm
Yes, it bothers me. Also pretty sure it goes against the message board rules. Shouldn't use this forum to get clicks and listens to a radio show. I've got nothing against the guy but cmon. After the show just post the names.

Hey guys! If you really want to know some good info, go to my website: insert link here.

Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: AirWarren on December 21, 2018, 06:47:10 pm
Quote from: MDXPHD on December 21, 2018, 04:37:59 pm
Yes, it bothers me. Also pretty sure it goes against the message board rules. Shouldn't use this forum to get clicks and listens to a radio show. I've got nothing against the guy but cmon. After the show just post the names.

Hey guys! If you really want to know some good info, go to my website: insert link here.



It's click bait. Just like those recruiting clowns that try to get you to sign up for a monthly bill to read "inside" information.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: Jimbo Morphis on December 21, 2018, 08:39:26 pm
Quote from: VHSCoach2 on December 21, 2018, 02:00:03 pm
Trouble? No. Bothered by something so trivial as names not being posted on a forum? Most certainly.
Good I was scared AW was gonna get banned again.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: beebefootballfan on December 21, 2018, 10:16:24 pm
Shane does a lot for Beebe Sports, and spends his own time and hard earned money broadcasting Beebe athletic events so no need to knock the guy.  I do wish he would make listening to the reports easier as I am not always listening when it broadcasts and would click a link for a pre-recorded report.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: Jimbo Morphis on December 21, 2018, 10:18:34 pm
Quote from: beebefootballfan on December 21, 2018, 10:16:24 pm
Shane does a lot for Beebe Sports, and spends his own time and hard earned money broadcasting Beebe athletic events so no need to knock the guy.  I do wish he would make listening to the reports easier as I am not always listening when it broadcasts and would click a link for a pre-recorded report.
Man I'm just having a little fun. I didn't even know Beebe had a football team. When was the last time they were any good?
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: AirWarren on December 22, 2018, 06:46:01 am
Quote from: Oldman on December 21, 2018, 10:18:34 pm
Man I'm just having a little fun. I didn't even know Beebe had a football team. When was the last time they were any good?

We need to meander on back down to 4a. Little too stiff up this way.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: Pick_DA_EAGLES on December 22, 2018, 10:00:47 am
Quote from: VHSCoach2 on December 21, 2018, 02:37:21 pm
Not my morning show. However, I have listened to it and can gather an opinion on it more than those who have not.

I have never listened to the Buzz morning show (in fact, barely even heard of it), so you'd be more apt at an opinion for that one.


do you live in Arkansas? must not if you have "never heard of the buzz morning show".
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: sevenof400 on December 22, 2018, 10:23:43 am
Quote from: pick_DA_EAGLES on December 22, 2018, 10:00:47 am

do you live in Arkansas? must not if you have "never heard of the buzz morning show".
Given the many options for entertainment these days, why assume anyone keeps up with local programming anymore?
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: VHSCoach2 on December 22, 2018, 10:51:27 am
Quote from: pick_DA_EAGLES on December 22, 2018, 10:00:47 am

do you live in Arkansas? must not if you have "never heard of the buzz morning show".

I've lived in Arkansas for 20 of my 28 years.

I'm assuming the "Buzz Morning Show" is on 103.7? The only time my radio is on that station is when I have to listen to the Razorback games when I'm not home to watch them.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: Pick_DA_EAGLES on December 22, 2018, 11:12:39 am
Quote from: VHSCoach2 on December 22, 2018, 10:51:27 am
I've lived in Arkansas for 20 of my 28 years.

I'm assuming the "Buzz Morning Show" is on 103.7? The only time my radio is on that station is when I have to listen to the Razorback games when I'm not home to watch them.


you should check it out, its pretty entertaining.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: jbtiger73 on December 26, 2018, 04:26:07 pm
Coach Widener actually already lives in Beebe anyway. So it definitely wouldn't be a major transition for him at all.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: Pick_DA_EAGLES on December 26, 2018, 06:40:29 pm
Quote from: jbtiger73 on December 26, 2018, 04:26:07 pm
Coach Widener actually already lives in Beebe anyway. So it definitely wouldn't be a major transition for him at all.

That has no role in his decision.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: panther07 on December 27, 2018, 09:44:55 pm
Quote from: pick_DA_EAGLES on December 22, 2018, 11:12:39 am

you should check it out, its pretty entertaining.

Your idea of good sports radio and mine clearly differ.  Those guys don't know a whole lot about ball.  Bazz does or used to but seems sort of out of touch about most major sporting events taking place. 
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: Pick_DA_EAGLES on December 27, 2018, 10:56:38 pm
Quote from: panther07 on December 27, 2018, 09:44:55 pm
Your idea of good sports radio and mine clearly differ.  Those guys don't know a whole lot about ball.  Bazz does or used to but seems sort of out of touch about most major sporting events taking place.

I said it was entertaining, said nothing about it being sports. 🤔
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: HorseFeathers on December 27, 2018, 11:22:54 pm
Quote from: pick_DA_EAGLES on December 27, 2018, 10:56:38 pm
I said it was entertaining, said nothing about it being sports. 🤔

Most think that 103.7 is a sports station....easy thing to get confused about
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: Jimbo Morphis on December 28, 2018, 06:36:32 am
Quote from: HorseFeathers on December 27, 2018, 11:22:54 pm
Most think that 103.7 is a sports station....easy thing to get confused about
Many on here stay confused once you quit talking about their team.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: Pick_DA_EAGLES on December 28, 2018, 06:59:21 am
Quote from: Oldman on December 28, 2018, 06:36:32 am
Many on here stay confused once you quit talking about their team.

A lot get confused when they decide to type the first letter of a comment.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: incogneto on December 28, 2018, 07:22:53 am
Quote from: pick_DA_EAGLES on December 28, 2018, 06:59:21 am
A lot get confused when they decide to type the first letter of a comment.
Hahaha that Des Arc edjumacation is serving you well.  Are you guys still letting the kids in alternative school dip as long as they agree to do their homework? 
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: Pick_DA_EAGLES on December 28, 2018, 01:06:22 pm
Quote from: incogneto on December 28, 2018, 07:22:53 am
Hahaha that Des Arc edjumacation is serving you well.  Are you guys still letting the kids in alternative school dip as long as they agree to do their homework?



I know nothing of the alternative school, you seem to be up on it, why don't you educate us on the "alternative school"
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: Ctucker on December 28, 2018, 03:31:13 pm
Quote from: incogneto on December 28, 2018, 07:22:53 am
Hahaha that Des Arc edjumacation is serving you well.  Are you guys still letting the kids in alternative school dip as long as they agree to do their homework? 
Does it matter there going to dip anyway atleast they are learning something!
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: Jimbo Morphis on December 28, 2018, 04:04:33 pm
Quote from: Ctucker on December 28, 2018, 03:31:13 pm
Does it matter there going to dip anyway atleast they are learning something!
Oooooooooooooooooooor maybe not
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: panther07 on December 28, 2018, 04:44:12 pm
Quote from: pick_DA_EAGLES on December 27, 2018, 10:56:38 pm
I said it was entertaining, said nothing about it being sports. 🤔

Ok.  Fair enough.  I don't think it's good either way.  Solves that.  It really wasn't an indictment on your opinion.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: beebefootballfan on December 28, 2018, 05:43:45 pm
Quote from: jbtiger73 on December 26, 2018, 04:26:07 pm
Coach Widener actually already lives in Beebe anyway. So it definitely wouldn't be a major transition for him at all.

Drake Widener will not be the next coach at Beebe. 
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: Ctucker on December 28, 2018, 06:34:07 pm
Quote from: Oldman on December 28, 2018, 04:04:33 pm
Oooooooooooooooooooor maybe not
most likely so
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: Pick_DA_EAGLES on December 29, 2018, 09:57:51 am
Quote from: beebefootballfan on December 28, 2018, 05:43:45 pm
Drake Widener will not be the next coach at Beebe.

I been trying to tell them that.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: Pick_DA_EAGLES on December 29, 2018, 09:59:42 am
Quote from: panther07 on December 28, 2018, 04:44:12 pm
Ok.  Fair enough.  I don't think it's good either way.  Solves that.  It really wasn't an indictment on your opinion.

No issues. But myself, I do like the morning show. But I've listened to Tommy Smith for as long as I can remember listening to the radio. Lol
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: boogercat on January 02, 2019, 12:06:37 pm
Can we just give everyone a baby bottle with all the offended we are doing on here. Geez we are adults here can we live in 2019 where we aren't offended or get but hurt over issues?
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: Jimbo Morphis on January 02, 2019, 01:24:34 pm
Quote from: boogercat on January 02, 2019, 12:06:37 pm
Can we just give everyone a baby bottle with all the offended we are doing on here. Geez we are adults here can we live in 2019 where we aren’t offended or get but hurt over issues?
Stay in your lane bro?
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: boogercat on January 02, 2019, 02:20:48 pm
Quote from: Oldman on January 02, 2019, 01:24:34 pm
Stay in your lane bro?


Did I offend you by speaking the truth with what I stated?
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: Jimbo Morphis on January 03, 2019, 09:29:32 am
Quote from: boogercat on January 02, 2019, 02:20:48 pm

Did I offend you by speaking the truth with what I stated?
Offend me? Nope but I can help you with your fishing. Slow down and use smaller lures. 
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: boogercat on January 03, 2019, 10:10:07 am
Quote from: Oldman on January 03, 2019, 09:29:32 am
Offend me? Nope but I can help you with your fishing. Slow down and use smaller lures.

Sorry I'm not a fisherman. I'm not old and retired yet. I only fish in the summer.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: i40traveler on January 03, 2019, 10:28:38 am
I hear they are hiring from within.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: youhavenoidea on January 03, 2019, 11:21:57 am
Quote from: i40traveler on January 03, 2019, 10:28:38 am
I hear they are hiring from within.
Surely not, heard they were looking for changes, not just same old same old.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: arkansasprepfootball on January 03, 2019, 11:26:57 am
Quote from: i40traveler on January 03, 2019, 10:28:38 am
I hear they are hiring from within.

You have been misinformed.

Starting interview process.  Hire should be made by the end of the month.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: i40traveler on January 03, 2019, 11:33:28 am
Quote from: arkansasprepfootball on January 03, 2019, 11:26:57 am
You have been misinformed.

Starting interview process.  Hire should be made by the end of the month.

No assistants or JH coaches are being interviewed?
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: arkansasprepfootball on January 03, 2019, 03:07:21 pm
Quote from: i40traveler on January 03, 2019, 11:33:28 am
No assistants or JH coaches are being interviewed?

I'm sure they are - good business to interview in-house guys, keeps the peace.  An in-house guy WILL NOT be hired.  Courtesy interviews at most.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: youhavenoidea on January 04, 2019, 10:39:49 am
Quote from: arkansasprepfootball on January 03, 2019, 03:07:21 pm
I'm sure they are - good business to interview in-house guys, keeps the peace.  An in-house guy WILL NOT be hired.  Courtesy interviews at most.
Always is and also a good way to "clean" house a little more...in house guy doesn't get it he moves on allows new coach to bring in their own people
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: GotInfo? on January 04, 2019, 10:27:31 pm
Most places will interview one in house if they apply, but not all that do. I'm not hearing much about who is involved, but I don't see this being an in house hire.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: nuttinbuthogs on January 09, 2019, 06:13:15 pm
Going out of state!
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: TrenchHogs on January 10, 2019, 01:50:33 pm
Quote from: jbtiger73 on December 26, 2018, 04:26:07 pm
Coach Widener actually already lives in Beebe anyway. So it definitely wouldn't be a major transition for him at all.

No he doesn't, DA has a home for their HC/AD to live in.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: TrenchHogs on January 10, 2019, 01:52:52 pm
Quote from: youhavenoidea on January 04, 2019, 10:39:49 am
Always is and also a good way to "clean" house a little more...in house guy doesn't get it he moves on allows new coach to bring in their own people

No in house guys have applied. The admin want a guy to come in with a completely different style/philosophy of football.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: gcsdad on January 11, 2019, 11:31:50 am
Quote from: softballfan22 on December 05, 2018, 03:11:53 pm
WITHOUT QUESTION: Des Arc head coach and Beebe Alum Drake Widener will be the New Head Coach.
Absolutely without question!!!!! By the way you other guys who are acting like you know something.... you don't. Stop lying.

Congrats to Drake! Had a lot of fun with him when he was at lonoke.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: Nacho on January 11, 2019, 11:44:37 am
Before rumors start that Coach Widener is Beebe's head coach he just put on twitter he's going to Riverview.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: beebefootballfan on January 11, 2019, 11:54:11 am
Drake moved to Beebe last year to be closer to family. 

Drake has taken the job at Riverview.

As DaEagles and I have said multiple times Drake was never going to be the coach at Beebe.  That was never even a possibility.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: Pick_DA_EAGLES on January 12, 2019, 09:12:18 am
Quote from: TrenchHogs on January 10, 2019, 01:50:33 pm
No he doesn't, DA has a home for their HC/AD to live in.

Yes Drake does live in Beebe. Speak what you know, and not what you think.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: Ctucker on January 12, 2019, 06:27:16 pm
Didn't he take Riverveiw job?
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: Pick_DA_EAGLES on January 12, 2019, 09:16:15 pm
Quote from: Ctucker on January 12, 2019, 06:27:16 pm
Didn't he take Riverveiw job?

Yes he did.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: baseball_fan1 on January 14, 2019, 07:20:07 pm
Alma OC
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: Kraig Crist on January 14, 2019, 07:51:00 pm
Quote from: baseball_fan1 on January 14, 2019, 07:20:07 pm
Alma OC

His wife didn't say no?
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: AT on January 15, 2019, 10:03:13 am
Quote from: baseball_fan1 on January 14, 2019, 07:20:07 pm
Alma OC

Is this official, speculation, hope, guessing, or?
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: RG44 on January 15, 2019, 10:39:42 am
Quote from: Almatrackster on January 15, 2019, 10:03:13 am
Is this official, speculation, hope, guessing, or?

I think its a guess
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: TruthHurts on January 15, 2019, 11:21:46 am
Daniel Bristo?
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: beebefootballfan on January 15, 2019, 11:45:12 am
I've always felt this job was going to one of 3 people. Widener, Gunter, or a 3rd who isn't a option any longer.

Drake Would have loved to come home but he was never really an option for whatever reason.  That leaves Chris, and I think he will do a great job just like Drake would have.  Beebe wants a big swing away from the dead T offense and Chris will give them that. 
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: beebefootballfan on January 21, 2019, 07:08:12 am
Wouldn't be surprised if Gunter was named the Badger HC this week.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: beebefootballfan on January 21, 2019, 06:37:32 pm
Talked to a source today. Expect it to be announced tonight.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: nuttinbuthogs on January 28, 2019, 05:15:28 pm
Still waiting?
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: sevenof400 on January 28, 2019, 05:16:33 pm
http://www.fearlessfriday.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=158579.0
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: 1reddieLB on May 08, 2019, 12:51:27 pm
Updates on how things are going in Badger country??
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: Jwolf12 on May 08, 2019, 02:23:41 pm
I have heard people in the community members are excited for sure. He has the players doing multiple community service events. Getting the community excited is step number 1
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: 1reddieLB on May 08, 2019, 05:00:58 pm
Updates?
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: Redwolves8526 on May 09, 2019, 09:23:33 am
Quote from: Jwolf12 on May 08, 2019, 02:23:41 pm
I have heard people in the community members are excited for sure. He has the players doing multiple community service events. Getting the community excited is step number 1

A lot of people in the boat now?
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: AT on May 09, 2019, 09:23:39 am
Good question, reddie.

I'll reiterate that Coach Gunter is honestly one of the best in the Arkansas high school biz in calling plays. As I've said before, I've seen him call a game where he didn't run out of the same formation twice.

He will find the defense's weakness and run right at that weakness. We got a great coordinator in Coach K, so I'm less worried about replacing him.

Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: TrenchHogs on May 17, 2019, 10:10:37 am
DC is leaving to go back to Cabot and that jobs been posted a few days now. Speculation another assistant may be leaving to go to Conway. Jr high HC supposedly moving up to HS staff so that will open up a Jr high job.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: 1reddieLB on May 17, 2019, 11:12:31 am
They may not have much flexibility in teaching positions. 
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: threepeoplematter on May 17, 2019, 12:10:48 pm
Well, looks like another coach will have a chance to hire his own guys.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: sevenof400 on May 18, 2019, 07:52:35 am
Quote from: threepeoplematter on May 17, 2019, 12:10:48 pm
Well, looks like another coach will have a chance to hire his own guys.

The current environment in the district is not going to make the HC's job any easier when it comes to attracting new staff. 
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: arkansasFBscoop on May 18, 2019, 08:16:50 am
Quote from: sevenof400 on May 18, 2019, 07:52:35 am
The current environment in the district is not going to make the HC's job any easier when it comes to attracting new staff.

Strongly disagree.  I know situation there in fairly high detail.  Changes in Beebe are all in Gunter's favor.  Guys who don't want to "buy-in" are bouncing, not guys they need.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: sevenof400 on May 18, 2019, 09:50:05 am
Quote from: arkansasFBscoop on May 18, 2019, 08:16:50 am
Strongly disagree.  I know situation there in fairly high detail.  Changes in Beebe are all in Gunter's favor.  Guys who don't want to "buy-in" are bouncing, not guys they need.

I should have made my point a bit clearer but I was referring to aspects outside of the football program but within the district.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: Jwolf12 on May 20, 2019, 08:12:42 pm
Quote from: TrenchHogs on May 17, 2019, 10:10:37 am
DC is leaving to go back to Cabot and that jobs been posted a few days now. Speculation another assistant may be leaving to go to Conway. Jr high HC supposedly moving up to HS staff so that will open up a Jr high job.
The DC is just teaching at Cabot, not even coaching. Are these other guys leaving for better opportunities? Is there some tension within the staff or just a coincidence with these guys leaving? Coaches jumping ship usually isn't a great sign
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: arkansasFBscoop on May 20, 2019, 09:09:16 pm
Quote from: Jwolf12 on May 20, 2019, 08:12:42 pm
The DC is just teaching at Cabot, not even coaching. Are these other guys leaving for better opportunities? Is there some tension within the staff or just a coincidence with these guys leaving? Coaches jumping ship usually isn't a great sign

Program going entirely different direction than previous staff.  All good people, current and former, just totally different mentalities on running a program.  Nothing more.  New superintendent is very much pro-sports.  Could help to get some new blood in program.  It is always easier in transition for both HC and assistants when they are able to bring in some of their own people.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: incogneto on May 22, 2019, 08:34:55 am
Mentality change is the best words I have heard anyone post.  Lots of programs and coaches that lose a lot think that they could win with someone else players.  That is a losing mentality.  A coaches job is to win with what they have not buy into excuses. 
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: Rayburn on May 22, 2019, 03:14:57 pm
Quote from: Jwolf12 on May 20, 2019, 08:12:42 pm
The DC is just teaching at Cabot, not even coaching. Are these other guys leaving for better opportunities? Is there some tension within the staff or just a coincidence with these guys leaving? Coaches jumping ship usually isn't a great sign
There is also likely some bitterness leftover with the way they mistreated Shannon. Nothing to do with the new guy, but it'd be impossible for it not to be the case. A lot of politicking involved, always has been in that town.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: arkansasFBscoop on May 22, 2019, 03:21:46 pm
Quote from: Rayburn on May 22, 2019, 03:14:57 pm
There is also likely some bitterness leftover with the way they mistreated Shannon. Nothing to do with the new guy, but it'd be impossible for it not to be the case. A lot of politicking involved, always has been in that town.

John is a good man.  There is no doubt it was time for a change, though.  I won't speculate on the details of the change, as I don't know them, but it probably should have happened earlier.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: sevenof400 on May 22, 2019, 04:53:02 pm
The point I feel is worth repeating here is that with changes happening all throughout the district (not limited to athletics), there is a considerable cloud of unease hanging over everything at present.  Coaching changes can be stressful enough on their own, but when you add in a change at the top of the administration to the mix the unease can easily escalate - and it has.  These are unsettled times throughout the entire district and one hopes things settle down soon.     
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: Rayburn on May 23, 2019, 10:10:09 am
Quote from: arkansasFBscoop on May 22, 2019, 03:21:46 pm
John is a good man.  There is no doubt it was time for a change, though.  I won't speculate on the details of the change, as I don't know them, but it probably should have happened earlier.
I respectfully disagree. John is also a good coach and a good example for young men. He's as capable of winning with good players as anyone they could get and he's proven it. Beebe is no juggernaut and never has been. He went to the semis for only the third time in school history. The other two times, the previous being the early 80s, they were 2A.
John went in 5A and lost by 7 at Wynne.
Beyond that, the other attributes I already mentioned are just as, if not more, important in a coach at the high school level. Beebe had a good one, and ran him out for absurd reasons.

Again, this has nothing to do with Gunter. I wish him the best, but he's got an uphill battle right now.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: Jwolf12 on May 23, 2019, 10:18:33 am
You can't put the lack of success all on Shannon. To expect any coach to come into Beebe and win conference games against PA, LR Christian, Parkview, Maumelle, and White Hall is too much.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: Rayburn on May 23, 2019, 10:39:59 am
And McClellan and Sylvan Hills until this year.
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: incogneto on June 13, 2019, 08:41:05 am
Quote from: Jwolf12 on May 23, 2019, 10:18:33 am
You can't put the lack of success all on Shannon. To expect any coach to come into Beebe and win conference games against PA, LR Christian, Parkview, Maumelle, and White Hall is too much.
If this mentality is allowed around the program Beebe will get exactly what this guy expects.  Greenwood doesn't have the athletes that any of those teams mentioned has. 
Title: Re: Beebe HC Open
Post by: beebefootballfan on July 11, 2019, 12:11:09 pm
Chris has done an amazing job building a good foundation for the Badger Program.  There is a completely different air around the program these days.