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Arkansas High School Football => Class 3A Bulletin Board Material => Topic started by: WHITEchicken on January 11, 2019, 11:18:56 am

Title: Bubble screen
Post by: WHITEchicken on January 11, 2019, 11:18:56 am
What do you all think of a bubble screen on the last play of the game? Predictable? Chance of scoring? Just want to hear some thoughts on it.
Title: Re: Bubble screen
Post by: Dayton Kitchens on January 11, 2019, 01:57:06 pm
Quote from: WHITEchicken on January 11, 2019, 11:18:56 am
What do you all think of a bubble screen on the last play of the game? Predictable? Chance of scoring? Just want to hear some thoughts on it.

If you're ahead 9 or more points I would consider it a bad idea.
Title: Re: Bubble screen
Post by: Jimbo Morphis on January 11, 2019, 03:47:47 pm
Quote from: Dayton Kitchens on January 11, 2019, 01:57:06 pm
If you're ahead 9 or more points I would consider it a bad idea.
Scared they'll get a pick 10 on the last play and win the game?
Title: Re: Bubble screen
Post by: CoolBreeze on January 11, 2019, 04:01:23 pm
Quote from: Oldman on January 11, 2019, 03:47:47 pm
Scared they'll get a pick 10 on the last play and win the game?
That would be a neat trick.
Title: Re: Bubble screen
Post by: Dayton Kitchens on January 11, 2019, 06:15:10 pm
Quote from: Oldman on January 11, 2019, 03:47:47 pm
Scared they'll get a pick 10 on the last play and win the game?

My point is simply that without knowing a lot more details answering this kind of question is completely impossible.
Title: Re: Bubble screen
Post by: WHITEchicken on January 12, 2019, 12:31:12 pm
Up 7
Great line
Running the Wing T.
Good call or no?
Title: Re: Bubble screen
Post by: HorseFeathers on January 12, 2019, 01:21:17 pm
Quote from: WHITEchicken on January 12, 2019, 12:31:12 pm
Up 7
Great line
Running the Wing T.
Good call or no?

If it works noone whines...if it does, you are an idiot coach that should be fired....well that's what the fans would say 🤷
Title: Re: Bubble screen
Post by: Dayton Kitchens on January 12, 2019, 04:11:24 pm
Quote from: WHITEchicken on January 12, 2019, 12:31:12 pm
Up 7
Great line
Running the Wing T.
Good call or no?

If you are up 7 why are you running anything the last play of the game aside from the QB kneel down?
Title: Re: Bubble screen
Post by: ISU7 on January 13, 2019, 07:40:48 am
Quote from: Dayton Kitchens on January 12, 2019, 04:11:24 pm
If you are up 7 why are you running anything the last play of the game aside from the QB kneel down?
;D ;D ;D ;D That's what I was thinking.
Title: Re: Bubble screen
Post by: Dr. Defense on January 13, 2019, 10:12:07 am
Quote from: WHITEchicken on January 11, 2019, 11:18:56 am
What do you all think of a bubble screen on the last play of the game? Predictable? Chance of scoring? Just want to hear some thoughts on it.

Depends on many factors. What formation are you using? How is the defense lined up? What coverage are they playing? Do you have the numbers at the point of attack to make it successful? Where are you on the field? I'm sure if you give me time I can think of a few more 😂
Title: Re: Bubble screen
Post by: WHITEchicken on January 13, 2019, 05:12:39 pm
Hahaha
Title: Re: Bubble screen
Post by: MR#1 on January 14, 2019, 09:32:01 am
"What's a bubble screen?" --- Rison fan
Title: Re: Bubble screen
Post by: Dayton Kitchens on January 14, 2019, 12:10:15 pm
Quote from: MR#1 on January 14, 2019, 09:32:01 am
"What's a bubble screen?" --- Rison fan

Wide receiver screen,  often to the wide side of the field.    Considered a quick hitting play.   Given that it means fewer blockers ahead of the ball carrier than in other screen plays.
Title: Re: Bubble screen
Post by: Jimbo Morphis on January 14, 2019, 12:17:15 pm
Quote from: Dayton Kitchens on January 14, 2019, 12:10:15 pm
Wide receiver screen,  often to the wide side of the field.    Considered a quick hitting play.   Given that it means fewer blockers ahead of the ball carrier than in other screen plays.
Pretty sure he was joking that it's not in their playbook.
Title: Re: Bubble screen
Post by: HorseFeathers on January 14, 2019, 01:11:58 pm
Quote from: MR#1 on January 14, 2019, 09:32:01 am
"What's a bubble screen?" --- Rison fan

Isn't throwing the ball illegal?
Title: Re: Bubble screen
Post by: Dr. Defense on January 14, 2019, 02:51:10 pm
Quote from: HorseFeathers on January 14, 2019, 01:11:58 pm
Isn't throwing the ball illegal?

If not it should be. 3 things can happen when you throw the ball and 2 of them are bad
Title: Re: Bubble screen
Post by: Dayton Kitchens on January 14, 2019, 08:29:24 pm
Just off hand last play of the game to run an effective bubble screen you need to be at least 40 yards from the end zone.    Otherwise the defensive secondary won't be backed off far enough (to defend against a final play bomb) to give your receiver room to maneuver after the catch. 
Title: Re: Bubble screen
Post by: youhavenoidea on January 15, 2019, 09:07:54 am
Quote from: Dr. Defense on January 14, 2019, 02:51:10 pm
If not it should be. 3 things can happen when you throw the ball and 2 of them are bad
I've heard this for years and wondered why nobody has ever corrected it...what about pass interference, roughing the passer, offensive holding
Title: Re: Bubble screen
Post by: Dr. Defense on January 15, 2019, 09:34:07 am
Quote from: youhavenoidea on January 15, 2019, 09:07:54 am
I've heard this for years and wondered why nobody has ever corrected it...what about pass interference, roughing the passer, offensive holding
Correction 6 things can happen 5 are bad
Title: Re: Bubble screen
Post by: youhavenoidea on January 15, 2019, 10:25:46 am
Quote from: Dr. Defense on January 15, 2019, 09:34:07 am
Correction 6 things can happen 5 are bad
Bad for Who? Pass interference good for offense, roughing passer good for Offense
Title: Re: Bubble screen
Post by: HorseFeathers on January 15, 2019, 12:16:52 pm
Quote from: youhavenoidea on January 15, 2019, 10:25:46 am
Bad for Who? Pass interference good for offense, roughing passer good for Offense


I always liked seeing my quarterback taking a meaningless hit after he threw the ball
Title: Re: Bubble screen
Post by: CoolBreeze on January 15, 2019, 01:37:41 pm
Quote from: youhavenoidea on January 15, 2019, 09:07:54 am
I've heard this for years and wondered why nobody has ever corrected it...what about pass interference, roughing the passer, offensive holding
If I remember correctly, this was a quote from a old-time coach to justify why he preferred to keep the ball on the ground. His point was that passing the ball is a risky proposition. Many of the best quarterbacks fail more than a third of the time.

What he didn't account for is that there are significant rewards to offset the risk.
Title: Re: Bubble screen
Post by: Dayton Kitchens on January 15, 2019, 01:55:37 pm
You can just as easily say (correctly) "when you run the ball,  four things can happen and three of them are bad".
Title: Re: Bubble screen
Post by: Dr. Defense on January 15, 2019, 02:39:31 pm
Quote from: Dayton Kitchens on January 15, 2019, 01:55:37 pm
You can just as easily say (correctly) "when you run the ball,  four things can happen and three of them are bad".

But running the ball is much easier and more fun
Title: Re: Bubble screen
Post by: fffan on January 15, 2019, 03:51:43 pm
Quote from: MR#1 on January 14, 2019, 09:32:01 am
"What's a bubble screen?" --- Rison fan

I don't care who ya are, that's funny right there!   ;D ;D
Title: Re: Bubble screen
Post by: Dayton Kitchens on January 15, 2019, 04:29:06 pm
Quote from: Dr. Defense on January 15, 2019, 02:39:31 pm
But running the ball is much easier and more fun

All those coaches switching to spread offenses would seem to disagree with you.
Title: Re: Bubble screen
Post by: MR#1 on January 15, 2019, 08:16:54 pm
Quote from: fffan on January 15, 2019, 03:51:43 pm
I don't care who ya are, that's funny right there!   ;D ;D

Glad a couple of folks got it.  :)
Title: Re: Bubble screen
Post by: Dr. Defense on January 15, 2019, 10:44:37 pm
Quote from: Dayton Kitchens on January 15, 2019, 04:29:06 pm
All those coaches switching to spread offenses would seem to disagree with you.

All the coaches switching to the spread are wrong
Title: Re: Bubble screen
Post by: youhavenoidea on January 17, 2019, 08:25:29 am
Quote from: HorseFeathers on January 15, 2019, 12:16:52 pm
I always liked seeing my quarterback taking a meaningless hit after he threw the ball
If it gives us 15yds and he's okay...then yeah all day, plus with the way rules are now it doesn't take much to get it
Title: Re: Bubble screen
Post by: 1wildcat on February 27, 2019, 09:28:07 pm
Quote from: MR#1 on January 15, 2019, 08:16:54 pm
Glad a couple of folks got it.  :)
Would be a great trick play for us to open the season with a bubble screen on the first play against Fordyce, it might even score.  ;D