The Big One: North Little Rock vs. Bentonville

[mack]

He's a guard

No matter how good you are you still have to have help. It is a team sprt after all. I think Monk has done everything he can for Bentonville. Hes at least made them relevant. He plays just about every minute of every meaningful game Bentonville plays. Sure Allen has the trophies but Monk is the better player IMO.

And just for kicks Jordan is better than Lebron not because of the titles and not because of the numbers. Jordan was just a better player. Lebron is the better athlete though.

I love Monk.  Hope he's a Hog.  Still, I'll bet anyone on here a steak dinner he won't be a one and done.

Curious as to why you think that?

Like most on here, I've watched him when I could since his EPC days.  He's improved some each year, but not as much in two areas.
I think the weakest part of his game is ball handling.  Next it's probably his strength.  He can improve both, but I don't think he'll do it soon enough to be a 1 and done.  There is a big difference in 1 and done and a 2 and done.  Bobby Portis should be a 3 and done.

lol are you kidding me.

Nope.  Mark this post and thread's date and correct me in two years.  I'll be laughing at you then.

[Cabotred]

He's a guard

No matter how good you are you still have to have help. It is a team sprt after all. I think Monk has done everything he can for Bentonville. Hes at least made them relevant. He plays just about every minute of every meaningful game Bentonville plays. Sure Allen has the trophies but Monk is the better player IMO.

And just for kicks Jordan is better than Lebron not because of the titles and not because of the numbers. Jordan was just a better player. Lebron is the better athlete though.

I love Monk.  Hope he's a Hog.  Still, I'll bet anyone on here a steak dinner he won't be a one and done.

Curious as to why you think that?

Like most on here, I've watched him when I could since his EPC days.  He's improved some each year, but not as much in two areas.
I think the weakest part of his game is ball handling.  Next it's probably his strength.  He can improve both, but I don't think he'll do it soon enough to be a 1 and done.  There is a big difference in 1 and done and a 2 and done.  Bobby Portis should be a 3 and done.

lol are you kidding me.

Nope.  Mark this post and thread's date and correct me in two years.  I'll be laughing at you then.

I will start by saying MM is a rare talent........

I tend to agree with Mack on this one.  Not saying he is not a one and done type talent.  But he or his support network seems more grounded than most. He/they are looking at the long haul, not get rich quick. He could have stayed a EPC and dominated 3A, but they moved to BV to for betterment of him. I have watched him the last three years in summer ball and his handlers(mainly  Marcus and Wings organization) have not pushed him to do anything that he is not ready for. I believe they are doing right thing to have a successful long term NBA career.

He is a great high school talent, but time will tell how good he will be at next level. Where ever he goes to college some of his team mates and competition will be on same or close to level as him.  It will be an adjustment for him.  More mentally than physically he will need more than one year to mature. 

If I am wrong on this so be it, I have been wrong before. 

[mack]

He's a guard

No matter how good you are you still have to have help. It is a team sprt after all. I think Monk has done everything he can for Bentonville. Hes at least made them relevant. He plays just about every minute of every meaningful game Bentonville plays. Sure Allen has the trophies but Monk is the better player IMO.

And just for kicks Jordan is better than Lebron not because of the titles and not because of the numbers. Jordan was just a better player. Lebron is the better athlete though.

I love Monk.  Hope he's a Hog.  Still, I'll bet anyone on here a steak dinner he won't be a one and done.

Curious as to why you think that?

Like most on here, I've watched him when I could since his EPC days.  He's improved some each year, but not as much in two areas.
I think the weakest part of his game is ball handling.  Next it's probably his strength.  He can improve both, but I don't think he'll do it soon enough to be a 1 and done.  There is a big difference in 1 and done and a 2 and done.  Bobby Portis should be a 3 and done.

lol are you kidding me.

Nope.  Mark this post and thread's date and correct me in two years.  I'll be laughing at you then.

I will start by saying MM is a rare talent........

I tend to agree with Mack on this one.  Not saying he is not a one and done type talent.  But he or his support network seems more grounded than most. He/they are looking at the long haul, not get rich quick. He could have stayed a EPC and dominated 3A, but they moved to BV to for betterment of him. I have watched him the last three years in summer ball and his handlers(mainly  Marcus and Wings organization) have not pushed him to do anything that he is not ready for. I believe they are doing right thing to have a successful long term NBA career.

He is a great high school talent, but time will tell how good he will be at next level. Where ever he goes to college some of his team mates and competition will be on same or close to level as him.  It will be an adjustment for him.  More mentally than physically he will need more than one year to mature. 

If I am wrong on this so be it, I have been wrong before. 

Good points.  I'm not infallible.  I could be wrong.....

[ricepig]

He's a guard

No matter how good you are you still have to have help. It is a team sprt after all. I think Monk has done everything he can for Bentonville. Hes at least made them relevant. He plays just about every minute of every meaningful game Bentonville plays. Sure Allen has the trophies but Monk is the better player IMO.

And just for kicks Jordan is better than Lebron not because of the titles and not because of the numbers. Jordan was just a better player. Lebron is the better athlete though.

I love Monk.  Hope he's a Hog.  Still, I'll bet anyone on here a steak dinner he won't be a one and done.

Curious as to why you think that?

Like most on here, I've watched him when I could since his EPC days.  He's improved some each year, but not as much in two areas.
I think the weakest part of his game is ball handling.  Next it's probably his strength.  He can improve both, but I don't think he'll do it soon enough to be a 1 and done.  There is a big difference in 1 and done and a 2 and done.  Bobby Portis should be a 3 and done.

lol are you kidding me.

Nope.  Mark this post and thread's date and correct me in two years.  I'll be laughing at you then.

I will start by saying MM is a rare talent........

I tend to agree with Mack on this one.  Not saying he is not a one and done type talent.  But he or his support network seems more grounded than most. He/they are looking at the long haul, not get rich quick. He could have stayed a EPC and dominated 3A, but they moved to BV to for betterment of him. I have watched him the last three years in summer ball and his handlers(mainly  Marcus and Wings organization) have not pushed him to do anything that he is not ready for. I believe they are doing right thing to have a successful long term NBA career.

He is a great high school talent, but time will tell how good he will be at next level. Where ever he goes to college some of his team mates and competition will be on same or close to level as him.  It will be an adjustment for him.  More mentally than physically he will need more than one year to mature. 

If I am wrong on this so be it, I have been wrong before. 

Good points.  I'm not infallible.  I could be wrong.....

I'm starting to lose what little respect I had of both of you, nobody admits to being wrong on a message board....

[Pick_DA_EAGLES]

Seems like the NBA drafts more on potential now, and he has the potential to be big time. So one and done is definitely a good possibility.

[mr.gametime]

Yeap ...that's how the N.B.A works now days there was a kid from North Carolina last year...who came out his Jr year and went undrafted ...but after his freshman year if he would have came out they had him projected a early first round pick....staying in college those 2 extra years exposed his game or lack there of...to the NBA scouts and cost him millions

[Moonshiner]

Yeap ...that's how the N.B.A works now days there was a kid from North Carolina last year...who came out his Jr year and went undrafted ...but after his freshman year if he would have came out they had him projected a early first round pick....staying in college those 2 extra years exposed his game or lack there of...to the NBA scouts and cost him millions

What was the kids name from Arkansas that went to Kentucky a couple years ago and went to the NBA after his Freshman year?  I've honestly not heard his name in so long I've forgotten it (Archie Goodwin?).  I know he wasn't drafted very high. Staying another year would've helped him I believe, but we will never know.  Some guys are just better college players than NBA players.  Christian Laettner, Scottie Thurman, Lee Mayberry etc..  There were some that even thought Ky Madden (cousin) would be a one and done.
I hope he decides to be a Hog, but I'm also hoping Cal will win it this year and jump back to the NBA himself.

[mr.gametime]

Archie Goodwin has been getting some playing time...they sent him down to the D league for a little bit ...but know his back on the phoniex suns rosters... Coming off the bench as a back up guard....I know he has had a few 20 point games he just not consistent enough yet

[rammer]

Archie Goodwin has been getting some playing time...they sent him down to the D league for a little bit ...but know his back on the phoniex suns rosters... Coming off the bench as a back up guard....I know he has had a few 20 point games he just not consistent enough yet

And is receiving a paycheck in the neighborhood of 1.1MM per year.

[AT]

Ball handling is NOT one of Malik Monk's weak points. Completely disagree there.