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Title: 4A-1
Post by: Interestingcall on March 01, 2018, 02:20:06 pm
So does the 4A-1 look the same next year or does someone else maybe make the jump into the #2 spot maybe Gravette or Shiloh? I figure Pea Ridge will stay at the top.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Redlinebacker32 on March 01, 2018, 04:14:28 pm
What about Prairie Grove?
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: beach bum on March 01, 2018, 05:13:14 pm
I think I'll give the nod to Shiloh....
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: BigGuy22 on March 02, 2018, 03:44:42 am
Only way Pea Ridge gets 1st is if they're defense plays as good as it should.. they are returning a lot of talented defense of players. It's their offense that wil be the problem for sure
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: bilboswaggins on March 02, 2018, 09:24:40 am
I'm just glad that Prairie Grove can field a team this coming year.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Lion Lettermen on March 02, 2018, 12:00:40 pm
Quote from: JAC08 on March 01, 2018, 02:20:06 pm
So does the 4A-1 look the same next year or does someone else maybe make the jump into the #2 spot maybe Gravette or Shiloh? I figure Pea Ridge will stay at the top.

Pea Ridge loses Sainsbury, Winn, Witcher, Holtgrewe, Pickthall, and more. They are well coached and have had a lot of talent coming through lately but I think it will be tough to say they are the favorite. They are graduating "once in a generation" type of kids.

Prairie Grove has seemingly "reloaded" for the better part of the last decade so it will be interesting to see what they have in 2018.

Shiloh Christian, right now, seems to be the team that has the best shot to win the conference. They had a pretty stout defense in 2017 and return several key players overall.

Gravette graduates Austin O'Brien who had 2000+ rushing yards and was one of the best defensive players in the conference. You can't replace a player like him. Also lose three year starters Brandon Ballard and Bailey Soule (signed with Henderson). Tajae White returns after having a really solid year at QB. I know there are some freshmen moving up Coach Harrelson is excited about so 2018 could be interesting for the Lions.

I think Gentry could be really improved this Fall as well. Should be an exciting year in the conference.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Coach DePriest, Sheridan on March 02, 2018, 04:20:37 pm
Quote from: Lion Lettermen on March 02, 2018, 12:00:40 pm
Pea Ridge loses Sainsbury, Winn, Witcher, Holtgrewe, Pickthall, and more. They are well coached and have had a lot of talent coming through lately but I think it will be tough to say they are the favorite. They are graduating "once in a generation" type of kids.

Prairie Grove has seemingly "reloaded" for the better part of the last decade so it will be interesting to see what they have in 2018.

Shiloh Christian, right now, seems to be the team that has the best shot to win the conference. They had a pretty stout defense in 2017 and return several key players overall.

Gravette graduates Austin O'Brien who had 2000+ rushing yards and was one of the best defensive players in the conference. You can't replace a player like him. Also lose three year starters Brandon Ballard and Bailey Soule (signed with Henderson). Tajae White returns after having a really solid year at QB. I know there are some freshmen moving up Coach Harrelson is excited about so 2018 could be interesting for the Lions.

I think Gentry could be really improved this Fall as well. Should be an exciting year in the conference.
Glad to have you posting on here, Seth.  I hope you can make it a habit during the season.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Dart@1090 on March 04, 2018, 08:59:38 am
Shiloh- will always be Shiloh totally expect them every year to be in the mix. Good program all around very consistent.
PG-  love what there coach has built.  this is a team I always expect to battle it out. 
PR-  They could be a 1 or a 4 wouldn't see them any less.  Going to miss the RB, an WR, but i think the QB in waiting may surprise some people.  Much more Athletic than the last one.  But, overall team speed will take a step back, an finding that go to receiver should be interesting. 
Gravette- is a team that shocks me every year.  Seems to have great athletes just stumbles at the wrong time.  Plus overall team number of players went down really have no answer for it.  Replacing there RB will be a tall task he was a do it all guy.
Really do not have a good enough feel for the rest of the teams to make a opinion on them.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: bilboswaggins on March 04, 2018, 12:59:25 pm
Quote from: Lion Lettermen on March 02, 2018, 12:00:40 pm
Pea Ridge loses Sainsbury, Winn, Witcher, Holtgrewe, Pickthall, and more. They are well coached and have had a lot of talent coming through lately but I think it will be tough to say they are the favorite. They are graduating "once in a generation" type of kids.

Prairie Grove has seemingly "reloaded" for the better part of the last decade so it will be interesting to see what they have in 2018.

Shiloh Christian, right now, seems to be the team that has the best shot to win the conference. They had a pretty stout defense in 2017 and return several key players overall.

Gravette graduates Austin O'Brien who had 2000+ rushing yards and was one of the best defensive players in the conference. You can't replace a player like him. Also lose three year starters Brandon Ballard and Bailey Soule (signed with Henderson). Tajae White returns after having a really solid year at QB. I know there are some freshmen moving up Coach Harrelson is excited about so 2018 could be interesting for the Lions.

I think Gentry could be really improved this Fall as well. Should be an exciting year in the conference.


When can we expect a way too early preseason podcast on these teams? You are entertaining to listen to no lie.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: RZback on March 04, 2018, 02:15:49 pm
Gentry without Fortenbury? will be better?
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Tigerdad2 on March 04, 2018, 04:10:07 pm
PG
Shiloh
PR
Gravette
Gentry
Lincoln
GF
Berryville
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: beach bum on March 04, 2018, 09:03:35 pm
Quote from: bilboswaggins on March 02, 2018, 09:24:40 am
I'm just glad that Prairie Grove can field a team this coming year.

I think this may be the year they slide back some as a program.... although the last time I said that going into a season they made the state finals in that loss to Nashville a few years ago. They could easily prove us wrong again. This season definitely has the most mystery and unsuredness in a long time for the entire 1-4A
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: nuttinbuthogs on March 05, 2018, 02:41:03 pm
Quote from: Tigerdad2 on March 04, 2018, 04:10:07 pm
PG
Shiloh
PR
Gravette
Gentry
Lincoln
GF
Berryville

This looks very possible.  GF I don't think will be a threat but I think Berryville may improve a little. Those two could shift most likely based on their game with each other.  Top 4 look to be the same tope4, bottom is still the bottom.  This is the year the highly regarded 7th grade group of a few years back will become sophomores, we will see how they respond to playing high school ball. 
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: RZback on March 06, 2018, 12:30:42 am
Quote from: nuttinbuthogs on March 05, 2018, 02:41:03 pm
This looks very possible.  GF I don't think will be a threat but I think Berryville may improve a little. Those two could shift most likely based on their game with each other.  Top 4 look to be the same tope4, bottom is still the bottom.  This is the year the highly regarded 7th grade group of a few years back will become sophomores, we will see how they respond to playing high school ball.

Didn't that group go 5-5 the past two seasons?
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: bilboswaggins on March 06, 2018, 07:57:19 am
Quote from: beach bum on March 04, 2018, 09:03:35 pm
I think this may be the year they slide back some as a program.... although the last time I said that going into a season they made the state finals in that loss to Nashville a few years ago. They could easily prove us wrong again. This season definitely has the most mystery and unsuredness in a long time for the entire 1-4A

Every year it seems Prairie Grove reloads. What we will see is another underestimated team that goes out and has a very stout defense and solid offensive play.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Tigerdad2 on March 06, 2018, 08:37:30 am
Quote from: RZback on March 06, 2018, 12:30:42 am
Didn't that group go 5-5 the past two seasons?
Yes, 9-1 as 7th grade.
5-5 as JR High. Not looking good for that group
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: RZback on March 06, 2018, 10:56:05 am
I wonder how many of those 9th graders will be expected to start and make an impact next season? Anybody have eyes on whats up at Lincoln?
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: BigGuy22 on March 06, 2018, 11:16:19 am
I don't know that Pea Ridge had much of a Junior High to come up and make a difference. There may be one or two kids to help on the offensive side of the ball but defensively Pea Ridge will be fine. The QB I think will actually surprise some people. He is pretty tall and athletic and has a good deep ball, another surprise will be the TE. Didn't get to shine last year because Sainsbury had Withcher, Holtgrewe, and Winn to throw too but the kid has great hands and blocked incredible. Hopefully the offense can get put together quick because that will decide if Pea Ridge gets the 1 seed or the 4 seed
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: nuttinbuthogs on March 06, 2018, 11:57:44 am
Junior high QB may play and let Lloyd go back to RB.  That might help.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Tigerdad2 on March 07, 2018, 06:54:50 am
Quote from: nuttinbuthogs on March 06, 2018, 11:57:44 am
Junior high QB may play and let Lloyd go back to RB.  That might help.
That would help a bunch, but I think they're set on Lloyd being a spread QB
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: RZback on March 07, 2018, 08:28:19 pm
Quote from: nuttinbuthogs on March 06, 2018, 11:57:44 am
Junior high QB may play and let Lloyd go back to RB.  That might help.

Lloyd's a natural RB, they have been talking about how good the freshman is, it makes sense to get best guys on the field at their best position.  They also have the Morphis kid if he is still playing. They need to plan for the games they can win and how they can win em.  Reasonable shot at 5 wins with the schedule they have.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: nuttinbuthogs on March 08, 2018, 09:37:43 am
Quote from: RZback on March 07, 2018, 08:28:19 pm
Lloyd's a natural RB, they have been talking about how good the freshman is, it makes sense to get best guys on the field at their best position.  They also have the Morphis kid if he is still playing. They need to plan for the games they can win and how they can win em.  Reasonable shot at 5 wins with the schedule they have.

I don't know the exact schedule, if its the same pre-conference or not but they should win at least 6 next year.  westville, Keys, Mansfield, Berryville, Greenforest, and Gentry.  I see those as almost for sure if they are still on the schedule.  Conference is going to be down a bit and the kids have been in the same system for the fourth year, should be best year so far under Harrison. 
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: whippersnapper on March 08, 2018, 01:26:55 pm
Non conf is Westville, @ Keys, @ Subiaco.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Tigerdad2 on March 08, 2018, 02:32:37 pm
Quote from: whippersnapper on March 08, 2018, 01:26:55 pm
Non conf is Westville, @ Keys, @ Subiaco.
2-1 is very possible
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Baller91 on March 08, 2018, 06:44:49 pm
Quote from: RZback on March 04, 2018, 02:15:49 pm
Gentry without Fortenbury? will be better?
Faulkenberry ... and I'll be really surprised if they are better without him.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: RZback on March 09, 2018, 01:28:57 pm
Quote from: Tigerdad2 on March 08, 2018, 02:32:37 pm
2-1 is very possible

I'd say that's a 3-0 slam dunk.  If they can win the 3 down side conference games (all of which will be down by quite a bit, Gentry no Faulkenberry, BV struggling to maintain where it is, GF well), which NNBH seems to believe, then they are 6-4 and in the playoffs.  It's a lock.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: nuttinbuthogs on March 09, 2018, 02:13:45 pm
Quote from: RZback on March 09, 2018, 01:28:57 pm
I'd say that's a 3-0 slam dunk.  If they can win the 3 down side conference games (all of which will be down by quite a bit, Gentry no Faulkenberry, BV struggling to maintain where it is, GF well), which nnq seems to believe, then they are 6-4 and in the playoffs.  It's a lock.

I didn't say for sure wins but I do think we should win 6, of course anything can happen during the next year.  I do think this should be the best year under Harrison for sure.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Tigerdad2 on March 09, 2018, 06:40:16 pm
Quote from: RZback on March 09, 2018, 01:28:57 pm
I'd say that's a 3-0 slam dunk.  If they can win the 3 down side conference games (all of which will be down by quite a bit, Gentry no Faulkenberry, BV struggling to maintain where it is, GF well), which NNBH seems to believe, then they are 6-4 and in the playoffs.  It's a lock.
Not saying they can't go 3-0 but they had a slam dunk 3-0 schedule last year and lost to Keys and Mansfield . Could go 3-7 to 6-4 this year
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: bilboswaggins on March 12, 2018, 06:02:14 pm
Quote from: Tigerdad2 on March 09, 2018, 06:40:16 pm
Not saying they can't go 3-0 but they had a slam dunk 3-0 schedule last year and lost to Keys and Mansfield . Could go 3-7 to 6-4 this year

Accurate...I wish them the best on making the playoffs.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: nuttinbuthogs on March 21, 2018, 10:51:38 am
Quote from: Tigerdad2 on March 09, 2018, 06:40:16 pm
Not saying they can't go 3-0 but they had a slam dunk 3-0 schedule last year and lost to Keys and Mansfield . Could go 3-7 to 6-4 this year

There are several reasons Lincoln should go at least 6-4.  1.  The biggest reason, the conference will not be as strong as it has been over the past 5-10 years.  The traditional top 4 schools will not be anywhere near as strong as they have been.  PG, PR, Gravette and Shiloh are not going to be as strong as they usually are.  The top of the conference is most likely Shiloh with other 3 fighting for the 2 slot.
2. The loss of Huntsville and addition of GreenForest, GF is not very strong right now and this should be a for sure win for the Wolves.
3.  Pre conference opponents are going to be easier wins for the Wolves. Westville, won one game last year; Keys, supposed to be down somewhat loosing a lot of seniors.  4. The bottom of the conference will not get stronger, Gentry lost its best player at QB, GF is not as good as Huntsville, Berryville is struggling to get better and doesn't seem to be a football strong community. 5.  Harrison has had these kids now for the past 3 years and they know his system.  6.  The sophomores next fall will be the best group to come along in years and the coach has been very high on them.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: RZback on March 21, 2018, 11:17:42 am
Shiloh should win the conference, they have the most returning players.
PG and PR will fight for second if they can make up for graduation.
Gravette will have a good shot to upset PG and PR but they need to replace a key part of their offense.
Lincoln should be #5 by default.
Gentry may make a run at 5 but will likely come down to Gentry vs Lincoln.
Berryville if they can beat Green Forest.
Green Forest.
Wild card is how good can the new BV coach make them.  He has had a full year to make improvements, they played a little better defense last season but offense was dismal. 
So a race for the top of the bottom again in 4A-1.  Satisfaction in mediocrity.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: beach bum on March 21, 2018, 12:05:12 pm
Quote from: RZback on March 21, 2018, 11:17:42 am
Shiloh should win the conference, they have the most returning players.
PG and PR will fight for second if they can make up for graduation.
Gravette will have a good shot to upset PG and PR but they need to replace a key part of their offense.
Lincoln should be #5 by default.
Gentry may make a run at 5 but will likely come down to Gentry vs Lincoln.
Berryville if they can beat Green Forest.
Green Forest.
Wild card is how good can the new BV coach make them.  He has had a full year to make improvements, they played a little better defense last season but offense was dismal. 
So a race for the top of the bottom again in 4A-1.  Satisfaction in mediocrity.

If Prairie Grove had virtually no speed and Pea Ridge had their fastest and by far most loaded team ever and PG still was marching for a TD in the final minute and coughed it up or would have won 28-21 instead of the 26-21 loss at Pea Ridge, what makes anyone think PG won't beat Pea Ridge by a minimum of at least 2 TD's this coming season when the talent will be similar or slightly in PG's favor?? The conference crown will come down to PG and Shiloh. I'll give Shiloh the slightest favor in that.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: nuttinbuthogs on March 21, 2018, 04:10:27 pm
Don't know you said anything new except your opinion on talent levels from last year.  I think both PG and PR are going to see problems on offense due to graduation.  I would disagree that PG had no speed last year.  I saw them play  a couple of times and they did a pretty good job of running away from defenders at times.  I don't know how many 20+ yard gains they had but I bet its more than a few and that's a pretty good indicator of reasonably good speed in comparison to who they play, which is what is important. 
I think Shiloh is the hands down favorite to win conference and make an impact in the playoffs.  Either PG or PR could win but much tougher and the burden on both teams is scoring points. But, I already said that. 
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: beach bum on March 21, 2018, 04:17:54 pm
PG did not have the speed last year at all that it had the previous half decade or so.... The RB they had last year would not have had to throw so many stiff arms had he been faster or he would have been breaking away on more runs had he had more speed. They were very lucky they had his physicality last year or they would have had a very bad offense. He kept a lot of drives going picking up tough yardage.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: nuttinbuthogs on March 21, 2018, 04:35:09 pm
Yes he was physical, but I think he had good speed, maybe not great but good.  I also am not sure that the PG or the PR offense will be that good and that's why I think RZ may be right that Gravette could take 2nd.  Its also possible that Lincoln could move into the top 4 if the tenth graders prove to be as good as they are thought to be. Lincoln gave PR a pretty good game last year and several junior high games could have been wins with just a play or two difference.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: RZback on March 21, 2018, 11:24:57 pm
Quote from: nuttinbuthogs on March 21, 2018, 04:35:09 pm
Yes he was physical, but I think he had good speed, maybe not great but good.  I also am not sure that the PG or the PR offense will be that good and that's why I think RZ may be right that Gravette could take 2nd.  Its also possible that Lincoln could move into the top 4 if the tenth graders prove to be as good as they are thought to be. Lincoln gave PR a pretty good game last year and several junior high games could have been wins with just a play or two difference.

Bring me some cool-aid.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: bilboswaggins on March 25, 2018, 03:56:55 pm
Quote from: JAC08 on March 01, 2018, 02:20:06 pm
So does the 4A-1 look the same next year or does someone else maybe make the jump into the #2 spot maybe Gravette or Shiloh? I figure Pea Ridge will stay at the top.

So I guess Prairie Grove and Lincoln battle for the 4th spot this year. One thing about these kids from Prairie Grove is they are used to being underestimated in their own conference. This senior class has no D1 talent but will face it in the playoffs and somehow manage to beat it. Somehow the PG defense will allow under 20 points a game on average and magically manage to score 35 per game.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: BigGuy22 on March 26, 2018, 01:18:02 pm
That Lincoln game was bad for Pea Ridge. They were missing 5 or 6 starting Defensive players that game.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: we_hate_the_band on March 26, 2018, 01:27:50 pm
Quote from: BigGuy22 on March 26, 2018, 01:18:02 pm
That Lincoln game was bad for Pea Ridge. They were missing 5 or 6 starting Defensive players that game.
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Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: nuttinbuthogs on March 26, 2018, 03:12:05 pm
Lincoln had a good night against Pea Ridge, probably the best game Loyd had all year.  On another note, looks like they have a lot of materials out on the football field and are working on the track finally.  Anybody know when its going to be finished.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: RZback on March 27, 2018, 05:00:05 pm
If its like most things not related to basketball, I'd say give it another 5 years. 
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: beach bum on April 04, 2018, 10:59:00 pm
New up to date analysis of how the 1-4A will finish in the fall of 2018.... Take it to the bank.

1.Prairie Grove
2.Shiloh Christian
3.Pea Ridge
4.Gravette
5.Lincoln
6.Gentry
7.Berryville
8.Green Forest
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Lumberjackfan1978 on April 05, 2018, 07:46:24 am
Prairie Grove will be in the mix no doubt about it 1 or 2
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: SUGARTOWN on April 05, 2018, 07:54:58 am
Quote from: beach bum on April 04, 2018, 10:59:00 pm
New up to date analysis of how the 1-4A will finish in the fall of 2018.... Take it to the bank.

1.Prairie Grove
2.Shiloh Christian
3.Pea Ridge
4.Gravette
5.Lincoln
6.Gentry
7.Berryville
8.Green Forest

The top 3 will have new QB's this year, correct?
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: beach bum on April 05, 2018, 11:27:49 am
Quote from: SUGARTOWN on April 05, 2018, 07:54:58 am
The top 3 will have new QB's this year, correct?

All the PG quarterback does is hand the ball off though  ;D .... So it won't impact PG as much.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: RZback on April 07, 2018, 04:49:07 pm
Quote from: beach bum on April 04, 2018, 10:59:00 pm
New up to date analysis of how the 1-4A will finish in the fall of 2018.... Take it to the bank.

1.Prairie Grove
2.Shiloh Christian
3.Pea Ridge
4.Gravette
5.Lincoln
6.Gentry
7.Berryville
8.Green Forest

That's a weak bottom half.  Throw them all in and shake them all out.  Except for Green Forest I don't see a lot of difference.  A break here or there and it could turn upside down for sure.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: tmycjy on April 07, 2018, 08:10:00 pm
just went threw the numbers this is what my computer is say as of right now. Now Reamber these number can change at any time do to how u play if player get hurt no tell how this will go

1. Shiloh Christian
2. Gravette
3. Pea Ridge
4. Prairie Grove
5. Lincoln
6. Green Forest
7. Gentry
8. Berryville
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: bilboswaggins on April 08, 2018, 09:03:07 am
Quote from: tmycjy on April 07, 2018, 08:10:00 pm
just went threw the numbers this is what my computer is say as of right now. Now Reamber these number can change at any time do to how u play if player get hurt no tell how this will go

1. Shiloh Christian
2. Gravette
3. Pea Ridge
4. Prairie Grove
5. Lincoln
6. Green Forest
7. Gentry
8. Berryville

What?
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: tmycjy on April 08, 2018, 10:50:55 am
Quote from: bilboswaggins on April 08, 2018, 09:03:07 am
What?

I don't understand what u mean by what please explain
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: bilboswaggins on April 09, 2018, 08:45:50 am
Quote from: tmycjy on April 08, 2018, 10:50:55 am
I don't understand what u mean by what please explain
Green Forest 6th,
Prairie Grove 4th.....
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: SUGARTOWN on April 09, 2018, 09:15:02 am
Quote from: bilboswaggins on April 09, 2018, 08:45:50 am
Green Forest 6th,
Prairie Grove 4th.....

Hey man, "reamber", he went "threw" the numbers so these rankings are pretty official.  :D
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: bilboswaggins on April 09, 2018, 09:26:59 am
Quote from: SUGARTOWN on April 09, 2018, 09:15:02 am
Hey man, "reamber", he went "threw" the numbers so these rankings are pretty official.  :D

Oh yeah, I just assumed he was drunk. For giggles though, what numbers would you use to get these rankings?
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: SUGARTOWN on April 09, 2018, 09:56:35 am
Quote from: bilboswaggins on April 09, 2018, 09:26:59 am
Oh yeah, I just assumed he was drunk. For giggles though, what numbers would you use to get these rankings?

Common core math?

Question: If Pea Ridge is 50 miles from Prairie Grove and Shiloh Christian is a private school, how many points will Green Forest lose to Gravette by in 2019?

Answer: dump truck


See, it's easy.  :)
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: bilboswaggins on April 10, 2018, 07:58:24 am
Quote from: SUGARTOWN on April 09, 2018, 09:56:35 am
Common core math?

Question: If Pea Ridge is 50 miles from Prairie Grove and Shiloh Christian is a private school, how many points will Green Forest lose to Gravette by in 2019?

Answer: dump truck


See, it's easy.  :)

Giggles achieved!
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: beach bum on April 10, 2018, 09:25:02 am
I do have to give Lincoln some props for the track they are surfacing in as we speak around the football field.... That is a positive for the athletic programs as a whole. Now only if Prairie Grove's administration was not so cheap....
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: nuttinbuthogs on April 10, 2018, 09:59:55 pm
Quote from: beach bum on April 10, 2018, 09:25:02 am
I do have to give Lincoln some props for the track they are surfacing in as we speak around the football field.... That is a positive for the athletic programs as a whole. Now only if Prairie Grove's administration was not so cheap....

Too bad they didn't get that done a few years back when they had the good run of track kids for a while.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: RZback on April 12, 2018, 11:23:06 am
Quote from: nuttinbuthogs on April 10, 2018, 09:59:55 pm
Too bad they didn't get that done a few years back when they had the good run of track kids for a while.

They did have some great success with no facilities.  Had some individual state champions and lots of kids place at the state meet.   I wonder how long before we see a track meet at Lincoln. Who is hosting the conference meet?
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: nuttinbuthogs on April 19, 2018, 10:15:09 am
Quote from: RZback on April 12, 2018, 11:23:06 am
They did have some great success with no facilities.  Had some individual state champions and lots of kids place at the state meet.   I wonder how long before we see a track meet at Lincoln. Who is hosting the conference meet?

My understanding is that Lincoln is hosting the junior conference meet. Finally.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: prHOG13 on April 29, 2018, 12:16:37 pm
Quote from: nuttinbuthogs on April 19, 2018, 10:15:09 am
My understanding is that Lincoln is hosting the junior conference meet. Finally.
Lincoln boys squeaked out a Jr High conference championship over Pea Ridge. Good for them
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: beach bum on April 29, 2018, 10:27:31 pm
Quote from: nuttinbuthogs on April 19, 2018, 10:15:09 am
My understanding is that Lincoln is hosting the junior conference meet. Finally.

I did not think their track was surfaced quite yet? Soon but not yet. I could be wrong on that though. One bad thing about that location for that track is you drive up the hill between Prairie Grove to where it plateaus out as you get to Lincoln and that wind up by Lincoln's schools is brutal. Track sessions and meets will be interesting there. If there is no wind in Prairie Grove there will be a slight to moderate wind in Lincoln. If its windy in Prairie Grove its gusting like crazy in Lincoln.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: whippersnapper on April 30, 2018, 09:53:21 am
They didnt host the conf meet. And beach bum youre sure right about the wind. I don't think the wind is as bad at the old field as it is the new one either.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: whippersnapper on April 30, 2018, 09:59:31 am
Also for those that were discussing Lloyd as the starter over the sophomore Brewer. There will be no QB battle for now at least, Brewer tore his meniscus and had surgery on it about a month ago.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: prHOG13 on April 30, 2018, 11:01:03 pm
Quote from: whippersnapper on April 30, 2018, 09:59:31 am
Also for those that were discussing Lloyd as the starter over the sophomore Brewer. There will be no QB battle for now at least, Brewer tore his meniscus and had surgery on it about a month ago.
That sucks. Meniscus is usually a 6-8 week recovery. Hope he can get fully healthy before fall camp
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: beach bum on May 04, 2018, 06:55:00 pm
NON CONFERENCE OPPONENTS

Berryville: @West Fork, Hunstville, Yellville Summit

Gentry: @Dardanelle, @Huntsville, Greenland

Gravette: Cascia Hall OK, @Farmington, @ Jay OK

Green Forest: Yellville Summit, Commerce OK, West Fork

Lincoln: Westville OK, @ Keys OK, @ Subiaco Academy

Pea Ridge: @ Harrison, @Maumelle, Farmington

Prairie Grove: Farmington, Dardanelle, @ Pottsville

Shiloh Christian: Texarkana, @ Trumann, Beggs OK
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: RZback on May 05, 2018, 11:27:17 am
Quote from: prHOG13 on April 30, 2018, 11:01:03 pm
That sucks. Meniscus is usually a 6-8 week recovery. Hope he can get fully healthy before fall camp

Tough luck for the Brewer kid and for Lincoln.  He would have given them a big qb and freed up LLoyd to play RB.   
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: bilboswaggins on May 13, 2018, 08:58:54 am
Quote from: beach bum on May 04, 2018, 06:55:00 pm
NON CONFERENCE OPPONENTS

Berryville: @West Fork, Hunstville, Yellville Summit =W,W,W?

Gentry: @Dardanelle, @Huntsville, Greenland =L,L,L?

Gravette: Cascia Hall OK, @Farmington, @ Jay OK =W,W,W (Farmington looks like tarzan plays like Jane)

Green Forest: Yellville Summit, Commerce OK, West Fork = L,W,W

Lincoln: Westville OK, @ Keys OK, @ Subiaco Academy =W,W,W

Pea Ridge: @ Harrison, @Maumelle, Farmington =L, W, W

Prairie Grove: Farmington, Dardanelle, @ Pottsville =W,W,W

Shiloh Christian: Texarkana, @ Trumann, Beggs OK = L, W,W
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: whippersnapper on May 15, 2018, 05:01:29 pm
Anybody got some numbers for spring ball?
Lincoln is looking to have anywhere between 35-40. Have had 3 or 4 players move this semester or moving in the summer. Cant control that unfortunately. First few practices have looked decent, Lloyd looks better to me after 1 full year under his belt at QB. If brewer was healthy I dont believe it would be much of a competition anyway. Have moved SR Cam Brown to RB and he played the hybrid WR/TE last season. After a year of no size at the position he brings us 6'1 185lbs and a junior that is finding his home in the backfield rather then WR. At times next season there could be 3-4 sophs WRs on the field I believe. Right now 2 srs are battling it out with 2 sophs at the outside spots. But those same 4 are battling for the CB jobs too. So could we see less players going both ways at times? I hope so even along the line too. Lots of competition at pretty much all spots on the field other then QB and Weak LB in Sr Hunter Phelan. Which in my opinion is the most underrated player in the conf going into next season. Wolves have a lot to prove next season and cant expect anything given to them. Go Wolves
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: prHOG13 on May 16, 2018, 08:15:29 am
I think we're at 83 as of now, but that will drop after this summer to somewhere in the 70's
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: RZback on May 16, 2018, 11:58:49 am
Should be an interesting season in 4A-1.  Lots of rebuilding among several of the traditional top teams, PR will have some questions about offensive production and will the defense play up to expectations with so many kids back on that side of the ball.   PG will also have questions after loosing lots of offensive firepower and the same question about can the defense carry the load.  Gravette lost it's offensive heart and will be getting a new coach and perhaps a big change in scheme.  Shiloh, well people expect them to be Shiloh.  Good amount of returning players should give them the early nod.  After that its all questions. Berryville and Green Forest have to find a way to score points as well as stop the opponent.  Both programs seem to have slipped farther down last year. Gentry and Lincoln should be the battle for the 5 spot.  Can they do better than 5?  Whippersnapper, the question for Lincoln seems to be is the sophomore class as good as they have been touted to be.  They were good in the 7th grade but have struggled since with a pair of 5-5 seasons.  Can a sophomore class add enough to Lincolns returning seniors to push them over the top? 
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: whippersnapper on May 16, 2018, 12:14:17 pm
As of right now we only have 6-8 seniors. About 10-12 juniors then rest are sophs. Some of these older guys that have started in the past out of necessity realize now that theyre being pushed by the sophs. I know in the JH off-season they really hammered the little things and details of each workout cause the little things kept them from a conf championship. So we shall see. We also look have some decent size along the line and depth. I believe anywhere from 7-9 guys will rotate among both sides of the ball there. Which wil be huge in the latter part of the season. I have heard rumor gentry has less then 30 in spring ball but it could just be rumor.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: prHOG13 on May 16, 2018, 11:00:24 pm
nm
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: nuttinbuthogs on May 17, 2018, 09:44:34 am
The number of seniors at Lincoln is a little disheartening.  Hard to win without those upperclassmen.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: prHOG13 on June 04, 2018, 04:13:30 pm
Congrats to Shiloh OL Logan Kalleson on getting a preferred walk on offer from the Razorbacks after camping last night.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: RZback on June 05, 2018, 11:16:53 am
So much better to get that "preferred" tag added to the walk-on, but walking on is still a tough climb uphill. 
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: cuckoobird on June 05, 2018, 04:10:35 pm
I just calculated the numbers

1. PG
2. Shilo
3. Gravett
4. Lincoln
5. Gentry
6. Green forrest
7. Berryville
8. Pee Ridge
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: beach bum on June 05, 2018, 04:11:53 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on June 05, 2018, 04:10:35 pm
I just calculated the numbers

1. PG
2. Shilo
3. Gravett
4. Lincoln
5. Gentry
6. Green forrest
7. Berryville
8. Pee Ridge

I like the way you think...
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: RZback on June 05, 2018, 06:36:38 pm
Quote from: beach bum on June 05, 2018, 04:11:53 pm
I like the way you think...1. PG
2. Shilo
3. Gravett
4. Lincoln
5. Gentry
6. Green forrest
7. Berryville
8. Pee Ridge

I find this a bit hard to believe.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: prHOG13 on June 05, 2018, 07:23:39 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on June 05, 2018, 04:10:35 pm
I just calculated the numbers

1. PG
2. Shilo
3. Gravett
4. Lincoln
5. Gentry
6. Green forrest
7. Berryville
8. Pee Ridge
I don't see Berryville being worse than Green Forest
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: bilboswaggins on June 06, 2018, 09:10:05 am
Quote from: prHOG13 on June 05, 2018, 07:23:39 pm
I don't see Berryville being worse than Green Forest
Agree 100%
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: prHOG13 on June 07, 2018, 12:52:10 am
Went over there Tulsa today for the team camp that PR and Shiloh are participating in along with Tulsa Union, East Central, Wichita NW, Derby KS, Bentonville West, and one other that I can't remember. Shilohs athletes performed well out on the edges. Hard to gauge ability to run between the tackles during team camps since there's no live tackling to the ground, just some popping and then it's whistled. That'll be the key for them to a deep postseason run imo.

Pea Ridge did a little better than I thought they would against that kind of competition. Defense performed really well. Still some things to figure out on O but there were a couple big plays made by receivers that surprised me. I'm really excited about the potential of one of our receiving threats.

PR and Shiloh exchanged possessions and both scored once to my recollection. There was some friendly talk going on, but other matchups got much more heated.

Fun camp, always good to see some familiar faces working hard out in that heat.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: nuttinbuthogs on June 07, 2018, 11:57:07 am


Re: 4A-1
« Reply #77 on: June 05, 2018, 07:23:39 pm »
Quote
Quote from: cuckoobird on June 05, 2018, 04:10:35 pm
I just calculated the numbers

1. PG
2. Shilo
3. Gravett
4. Lincoln
5. Gentry
6. Green forrest
7. Berryville
8. Pee Ridge

Definatley the best chance since 2013 for Lincoln to get out of the bottom half.  Reported low numbers of seniors is not good but a lot of hope placed on the sophomore class. 
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: RZback on July 17, 2018, 10:56:33 am
Does anyone have camp or 7 0n 7 results they can share on 4A-1 teams this summer?
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: whippersnapper on July 17, 2018, 12:25:05 pm
Quote from: RZback on July 17, 2018, 10:56:33 am
Does anyone have camp or 7 0n 7 results they can share on 4A-1 teams this summer?
Lincoln has hosted 7 on 7 the last 2 Monday nights. Teams have consisted of Lincoln, PG, Greenland, WF, Gentry, Cedarville, and Huntsville. Games have been competitive. I would say if the game was played without linemen then I would say Gentry is the clear favorite. PG looks to be PG again. Lincoln was hit or miss at times.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: prHOG13 on July 17, 2018, 05:53:52 pm
Quote from: RZback on July 17, 2018, 10:56:33 am
Does anyone have camp or 7 0n 7 results they can share on 4A-1 teams this summer?
Pea Ridge was 3-1 in Branson last week, but not sure who all they played.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: $aintMaximu$ on July 19, 2018, 07:43:21 am
Not sure how Shiloh did in pool play at the Elite 7 on 7 but it looks like they lost both games after they seeded... 
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: RZback on July 23, 2018, 09:29:38 am
Quote from: $aintMaximu$ on July 19, 2018, 07:43:21 am
Not sure how Shiloh did in pool play at the Elite 7 on 7 but it looks like they lost both games after they seeded...

I believe Shiloh is struggling at the QB spot right now.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: BigGuy22 on July 28, 2018, 01:36:24 pm
Any Updates on how these schools are looking?! Pea Ridge starts Monday and is obviously looming to ride there's defense as much as possible to get as far as they can in the playoffs.. but their offense did show out in some team camps at Tulsa, Fayetteville, and a 7 on 7 in Branson!! It's gonna be a fun year with no one team overly dominant to the other team!
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: cuckoobird on August 01, 2018, 10:55:13 am
Quote from: BigGuy22 on July 28, 2018, 01:36:24 pm
Any Updates on how these schools are looking?! Pea Ridge starts Monday and is obviously looming to ride there's defense as much as possible to get as far as they can in the playoffs.. but their offense did show out in some team camps at Tulsa, Fayetteville, and a 7 on 7 in Branson!! It's gonna be a fun year with no one team overly dominant to the other team!
Don't worry, PG will dominate PeeRidge...
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: BigGuy22 on August 02, 2018, 09:05:16 pm
Oh yeah Pea Ridge probably won't even score and Prarie Grove will have around 40 to 50! We can always count Pea Ridge out cause they never live up to the hype! I mean they should've been the state champs the last two years! Let's just keep counting them out! Cause I know they enjoy it!
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: SUGARTOWN on August 03, 2018, 07:52:16 am
Quote from: BigGuy22 on August 02, 2018, 09:05:16 pm
I mean they should've been the state champs the last two years! Let's just keep counting them out! Cause I know they enjoy it!


I've counted them out of the state title picture every year and I've never been wrong.

Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: whippersnapper on August 03, 2018, 10:27:48 am
Channel 5 News football previews have started this week. So far only 1-4a team is Gentry, said they only had 26 players out for fall practice.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: prHOG13 on August 03, 2018, 02:25:24 pm
Quote from: whippersnapper on August 03, 2018, 10:27:48 am
Channel 5 News football previews have started this week. So far only 1-4a team is Gentry, said they only had 26 players out for fall practice.
Yikes. Gonna be a REALLY rough year for them if those end up being close to their final numbers
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Trackhawk on August 12, 2018, 04:40:13 pm
Quote from: BigGuy22 on August 02, 2018, 09:05:16 pm
Oh yeah Pea Ridge probably won't even score and Prarie Grove will have around 40 to 50! We can always count Pea Ridge out cause they never live up to the hype! I mean they should've been the state champs the last two years! Let's just keep counting them out! Cause I know they enjoy it!
I'm not sure where you read your news/sports (CNN?) Never live up to the hype? The Blackhawks have usually finished at or a bit higher that most prognosticators thought they would.  Their last playoff loss in the past three seasons were to teams that won the title (Nashville in 2015, Warren in 2016, and Arkadelphia in 2017) so they went as far as they could, better than most teams.  In fact, Pea Ridge is the only 4A team to have made it to the semifinals of the playoffs in each of the last three years.  They were not "supposed" to earn the #1 seed last year in the 4A-1 or the #2 seeds the previous two years but they did.  They scheduled two top rated teams for the same week last year and folks like yourself were giggling/snickering while predicting the Hawks would go 0-2 to start their season, but they won them both.  This year?  The Hawks are unknown on offense but solid on defense.  Prairie Grove is always good and with the staff they have, they will always be good.  Shiloh, while good, is often if not always, rated higher than where they end up.  Gravette has had a program change and they will get better and they have some good kids coming up.  The top four 4A-1 teams of the past few years is quite likely going to be the same this year, though no one can really predict the final outcome with any real certainty, which is why sports is fun.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: prHOG13 on August 12, 2018, 07:00:55 pm
Quote from: Trackhawk on August 12, 2018, 04:40:13 pm
  I'm not sure where you read your news/sports (CNN?) Never live up to the hype? The Blackhawks have usually finished at or a bit higher that most prognosticators thought they would.  Their last playoff loss in the past three seasons were to teams that won the title (Nashville in 2015, Warren in 2016, and Arkadelphia in 2017) so they went as far as they could, better than most teams.  In fact, Pea Ridge is the only 4A team to have made it to the semifinals of the playoffs in each of the last three years.  They were not "supposed" to earn the #1 seed last year in the 4A-1 or the #2 seeds the previous two years but they did.  They scheduled two top rated teams for the same week last year and folks like yourself were giggling/snickering while predicting the Hawks would go 0-2 to start their season, but they won them both.  This year?  The Hawks are unknown on offense but solid on defense.  Prairie Grove is always good and with the staff they have, they will always be good.  Shiloh, while good, is often if not always, rated higher than where they end up.  Gravette has had a program change and they will get better and they have some good kids coming up.  The top four 4A-1 teams of the past few years is quite likely going to be the same this year, though no one can really predict the final outcome with any real certainty, which is why sports is fun.
His post was sarcasm FYI
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: $aintMaximu$ on August 13, 2018, 07:21:12 am
Quote from: RZback on July 23, 2018, 09:29:38 am
I believe Shiloh is struggling at the QB spot right now.

Oh boy....  Yes this was confirmed Friday night... That is going to be a huge problem for Shiloh...
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: RZback on August 20, 2018, 01:38:41 pm
Quote from: $aintMaximu$ on August 13, 2018, 07:21:12 am
Oh boy....  Yes this was confirmed Friday night... That is going to be a huge problem for Shiloh...

From what I'm hearing Shiloh isn't the only program in need of a magic potion at QB.  When you are trying to run any type of spread you need a really good trigger man.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: x14113 on August 22, 2018, 11:50:27 am
Word from the presses is that Gentry has become the third team in 2 years to switch to the single wing offense.

If only they didn't open the season against a team that has seen it before...
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: whippersnapper on August 22, 2018, 01:04:41 pm
Lincoln "won" last night's scrimmage against WF in a regular half at 27-6.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: HeberFan on August 22, 2018, 02:39:57 pm
I think there will be an eight-way tie for the conference title.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: $aintMaximu$ on August 24, 2018, 11:25:58 pm
Shiloh exceeded my expectations. I was very proud of they way they played!

And oh lord that PA game!!!  Impressive any and every way you look at it. 
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: beach bum on August 24, 2018, 11:38:58 pm
-good showing by the Saints

-Gentry tried to at least be competitive by Dardanelle

-Pea Ridge isn't as bad off as it seems, Harrison will be that good

-Gravette got beat big but they were playing solid competition too
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Hogman2018 on August 25, 2018, 08:41:59 pm
Quote from: $aintMaximu$ on August 24, 2018, 11:25:58 pm
Shiloh exceeded my expectations. I was very proud of they way they played!

And oh lord that PA game!!!  Impressive any and every way you look at it.
Good luck to all the teams that has to play Shiloh ! Texarkana had over 25 penalties called on them it was terrible the game lasted 3 1/2 hours!! They made sure we didnt mercy rule them
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: $aintMaximu$ on August 25, 2018, 09:13:53 pm
Quote from: Hogman2018 on August 25, 2018, 08:41:59 pm
Good luck to all the teams that has to play Shiloh ! Texarkana had over 25 penalties called on them it was terrible the game lasted 3 1/2 hours!! They made sure we didnt mercy rule them

Hogman2018 that was a very rare occurrence. Nobody in the 4A will be concerned with us getting all the calls.  If the officials can be persuaded then guys PM me  ;D ...


Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Hogman2018 on August 25, 2018, 09:15:12 pm
Quote from: $aintMaximu$ on August 25, 2018, 09:13:53 pm
Hogman2018 that was a very rare occurrence. Nobody in the 4A will be concerned with us getting all the calls.  If the officials can be persuaded then guys PM me  ;D ...
LOL
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: $aintMaximu$ on August 25, 2018, 09:18:00 pm
Quote from: Hogman2018 on August 25, 2018, 09:15:12 pm
LOL

I'm getting desperate !!
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: BigGuy22 on August 26, 2018, 04:16:13 am
Idk what was wrong with Pea Ridge or if Harrison was just that much stronger of a team but it seemed like everything went wrong. First offensive snap was a mishandled exchange leading to a fumble recovered by Harrison leading to a two play touchdown. And botched snap by Harrison bounces off the quarterbacks hands and into the motioning receivers hand and picks up a 12 yard gain on a crucial third down. Pea Ridges receivers looks scared to take contact after the catch, line isn't blocking well. Even the defense has kinks. D line man not fitting right along with the linebackers. Corners making mistakes and getting out jumped for 2 touchdowns.. I don't know if it was just a bad game or what but if Pea Ridge can't figure something out before conference play it's gonna be a long year for the Blackhawks
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Dart@1090 on August 26, 2018, 06:23:47 am
I watched that PR game.  They definitely took a dynamic step back on Offense like we thought they would.  But, I was most disappointed in the D.  They were out of place on some plays, an the broken tackles oh my.   The Center was getting blown up on snap making the timing off mostly all night.  But, I was impressed by Harrison's size and speed hopefully they can make some noise in there conference.  PR got some good film, an a lot to work on this is a good staff I believe they will get it cleaned up. 
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: BigGuy22 on August 26, 2018, 10:56:04 am
I sure hope so.. they're the pride of a town that doesn't have much so the need to step it up
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: bigchief72455 on August 26, 2018, 11:02:14 am
A lot of talent left PR last season. Harrison is also really good. It's going to take some time for some of the players that were not returning starters to figure it out.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: TIGER101 on August 26, 2018, 12:26:04 pm
Quote from: BigGuy22 on August 02, 2018, 09:05:16 pm
Oh yeah Pea Ridge probably won't even score and Prarie Grove will have around 40 to 50! We can always count Pea Ridge out cause they never live up to the hype! I mean they should've been the state champs the last two years! Let's just keep counting them out! Cause I know they enjoy it!

Should have been back to back?
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: GRN R H-2 X-Deep Over on August 27, 2018, 11:26:43 am
I watched the Gravette Cascia Hall Game and it was somewhat sad to see. Gravette looked like Gentry has for most of the past decade; small numbers, small upfront, and relying on the quarterback for most of the production. Not too many runs were called for White but I imagine that will change come conference. Their base run game with their current personnel reminds me a bit of Bielema trying to run over the SEC without a line full of cornfed northern boys like he had at Wisconsin.
With Coach Greenwood coming from Jenks I was looking for the R4 system to show but White didn't have much time.
Right now it looks to me like its Prairie Grove and then everybody else. 
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: RZback on August 27, 2018, 11:47:49 am
Conference may be open to a few shake ups but the top of the heap is still the top until they get knocked off.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: RZback on August 27, 2018, 11:50:20 am
Quote from: whippersnapper on August 22, 2018, 01:04:41 pm
Lincoln "won" last night's scrimmage against WF in a regular half at 27-6.

Good news for the Wolves because as bad as WF is a loss or anything close would be a disaster.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: $aintMaximu$ on August 27, 2018, 12:56:13 pm
Looks like so far everybody is down... Still have to wait and see on PG...
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: footballfan-tastic on August 31, 2018, 10:49:42 am
Whats the outlook for Lincoln vs Westville tonight.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: whippersnapper on August 31, 2018, 11:46:26 am
Should be a good game. Both teams are now playing for a trophy called the Stateline Stand Off. Although I should note that Soph WR Daytin Davis for Lincoln broke his collarbone in the WF scrimmage. Will be intwresting to see who steps up at that spot now. I would think SR Sterling Morphis would just move over then soph Eli Rich takes his spot.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Hogman2018 on September 01, 2018, 10:35:27 am
Quote from: $aintMaximu$ on August 25, 2018, 09:13:53 pm
Hogman2018 that was a very rare occurrence. Nobody in the 4A will be concerned with us getting all the calls.  If the officials can be persuaded then guys PM me  ;D ...
Hey ST. our #25  broke his leg last night probably out all year! Big blow he had 175 yds on the Texas team when he broke it!
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: LION Dad on September 01, 2018, 12:26:50 pm
Quote from: GRN R H-2 X-Deep Over on August 27, 2018, 11:26:43 am
I watched the Gravette Cascia Hall Game and it was somewhat sad to see. Gravette looked like Gentry has for most of the past decade; small numbers, small upfront, and relying on the quarterback for most of the production. Not too many runs were called for White but I imagine that will change come conference. Their base run game with their current personnel reminds me a bit of Bielema trying to run over the SEC without a line full of cornfed northern boys like he had at Wisconsin.
With Coach Greenwood coming from Jenks I was looking for the R4 system to show but White didn't have much time.
Right now it looks to me like its Prairie Grove and then everybody else.


The front line only has one guy that is not a returning starter, that's the same bunch that blocked for the NWA and 1-4A back of the yr.  Casica Hall is a pretty good team and we don't have the same talent in all the skilled positions that we've had in the past yrs they are all very young.  We are gonna be down from where we've been but lots of talent in the pipeline. Only one game in and your comparing us to Gentry, Gravette's program is heads and shoulders above that program and most likely will be for yrs to come
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: whippersnapper on September 01, 2018, 12:57:04 pm
Wolves start the year off right with a dominate win over their rival westville. Senior QB Caleb Lloyd had arguably his best game to date at QB going 21-28 231yds and 3 TDs. The defense was dominate all night long. Not sure exactly how many first downs they had but wasn't many. The TD was very late with literally under 5 to go. Westville also has a long ways to go with the new offense. Mutliple false starts. Timing is everything in the triple option.
Now onto Keys OK, which runs the wing T. Wolf pack has to keep a steady head and not let there be a hangover affect after last night.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: nuttinbuthogs on September 01, 2018, 04:49:06 pm
Pro: Good strong win last night with lots of hi-lights.  Con: A game Lincoln had to win. Westville was terrible last year and was left with nothing and is in a mess right now. Not sure how much we know about the conference outlook from this game.
Overall:   Looked good against a terrible team, did what you are supposed to do in that instance. The conference looks to be down overall and that means prospect of getting a higher seed in the playoffs are very very good.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: BigGuy22 on September 01, 2018, 09:34:05 pm
Pea Ridge didn't have anything in the first half. 4 turnovers and gave up 33 points.. Terrible half for offense and defense. Second half was a script flip.. Defense only allowed 1 touchdown and offense scored 30 with some new offensive looks! If Pea Ridge can play a whole game the way they played the second half they can beat a lot of teams in the state!
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: RZback on September 02, 2018, 04:27:12 pm
Quote from: BigGuy22 on September 01, 2018, 09:34:05 pm
Pea Ridge didn't have anything in the first half. 4 turnovers and gave up 33 points.. Terrible half for offense and defense. Second half was a script flip.. Defense only allowed 1 touchdown and offense scored 30 with some new offensive looks! If Pea Ridge can play a whole game the way they played the second half they can beat a lot of teams in the state!

True in part.  How many Maumelle players were 2/3 teamers in second half.  I don't know just asking.  PR did lessen the number of unforced errors though.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: prHOG13 on September 07, 2018, 02:55:54 pm
Quote from: RZback on September 02, 2018, 04:27:12 pm
True in part.  How many Maumelle players were 2/3 teamers in second half.  I don't know just asking.  PR did lessen the number of unforced errors though.
Starters remained in until the 4th quarter and the last possession to seal the win.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: nuttinbuthogs on September 07, 2018, 03:42:59 pm
Is there anywhere good to eat in Keys?
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: B&GT on September 07, 2018, 09:49:11 pm
I think the 4A-1 is back to being mediocre. *sigh*
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: RZback on September 07, 2018, 11:49:55 pm
Conference is 4-12 so far.  That's pretty amazing.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: RZback on September 07, 2018, 11:52:51 pm
Victories among the conference teams coming against WestFork, Westville, Keys, Truman.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: x14113 on September 08, 2018, 12:02:27 am
Quote from: B&GT on September 07, 2018, 09:49:11 pm
I think the 4A-1 is back to being mediocre. *sigh*

If you can hold on for two more years, some respect will come your way...maybe...  ;)
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: bulldoghistorian on September 08, 2018, 12:55:39 am
Surprised to see PG and PR winless, I know it's early.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: beach bum on September 08, 2018, 09:14:20 am
The 1-4A is waaaay down. It is not out of the question for PG to go 5-5 this year. I think we have to give Lincoln some major credit. This may just be the year Lincoln can beat Prairie Grove. Lincoln imo may not be able to hang with Shiloh because the Saints have an offense that PG and Pea Ridge do not have. However, if Lincoln catches Pea Ridge or PG on a day where they come out flat the Wolves may come up and bite them and pull the win. If Lincoln wins the games they should they will be 7-2 at worst and possibly 8-1 if they pull an upset before then when they take on PG week 10..... and PG could potentially be 4-5 or 5-4 and Lincoln would have the confidence to finally pull it off.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: whippersnapper on September 08, 2018, 10:18:05 am
Lincoln came home with another victory last night. The wolves faced quite a bit of adversity the past couple weeks as 5 guys have been injured or sick now. All being a starter or backup. First was Davis with a broken collarbone against WF. Then week 1 soph Eli Rich tore his ACL and SR Cam Brown has a knee injury as well but not sure of his diagnosis. QB Tyler Brewer and WR/DB Marcus Sturgill was not dressed out last night. Havent heard anything official on either of them. But That's 5 guys that start somewhere or a depth/backup. After all of that in 2 weeks down I was nervous last night. But the wolves kept doing their thing. Now onto Subiaco to which is another wing t type team to get the wolves ready for conf play.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: RZback on September 08, 2018, 01:43:11 pm
A win is a win and take all you can get.  That said, conference is obviously down and the opposition for some has been marginal. Every team deals with injury.  Not to say Lincoln may not have its best year in a while but the pre-conference  schedule is pretty weak.  We will not know how good Lincoln is until we get to conference play or how good PG, PR, and Shiloh may be after they get their youngsters some PT. At that point we will see.  Lincoln right now  does look better than last year. For the time being the conference may have another tough week coming up.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: whippersnapper on September 08, 2018, 02:50:09 pm
Did i say no other team deals with injury anywhere??
Nope. But when you lose 4 starters in literally a week's time that can have a big mental affect on a high school football team. Especially early in the season. Yes its next man up but as the saying goes those guys were starters for a reason. Luckily Lincoln has better depth and overall talent since coach Harrison has been here.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: RZback on September 08, 2018, 02:53:30 pm
Quote from: whippersnapper on September 08, 2018, 02:50:09 pm
Did i say no other team deals with injury anywhere??
Nope. But when you lose 4 starters in literally a week's time that can have a big mental affect on a high school football team. Especially early in the season. Yes its next man up but as the saying goes those guys were starters for a reason. Luckily Lincoln has better depth and overall talent since coach Harrison has been here.

I didn't say you made any such statement, merely stated a fact of football. Gee you are touchy.  As far as better depth and talent that is what this season may prove, or not!
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: x14113 on September 10, 2018, 12:15:36 am
After looking through the results so far, a notion suddenly popped into my head:

What are the chances that the Berryville Bobcats end their 12-year playoff drought?

Their chances look favorable against both Gentry and Green Forest, so that means they would have to win just one more conference game.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: GRN R H-2 X-Deep Over on September 10, 2018, 04:06:15 pm
Quote from: x14113 on September 10, 2018, 12:15:36 am
After looking through the results so far, a notion suddenly popped into my head:

What are the chances that the Berryville Bobcats end their 12-year playoff drought?

Their chances look favorable against both Gentry and Green Forest, so that means they would have to win just one more conference game.

Looks like they have Gravette at home and have to travel to Lincoln this year, so their best chance is probably against the Lions. What are the chances Berryville sweeps Gentry, Gravette, and Lincoln in a three game stretch and have the playoffs wrapped up halfway through?
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: RZback on September 11, 2018, 04:36:41 pm
They beat GF and Gentry back in 2016 and it could happen again but another win will be harder to come by.  Bottom half is really poor right now.  I think PG or Shiloh gets in shape for 1st and then PR will line up about 3rd.  After that its anybodies guess.  Or it could be completely different.  I think the top 3 are still the top 3 and the bottom 5 will sort it out for the rest. 
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Hawk4L on September 11, 2018, 09:04:35 pm
PR, Shiloh, Lincoln & PG will be the top 4 and any of them could be 1st to 4th. The other 4 have no chance.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: nuttinbuthogs on September 12, 2018, 03:23:48 pm
If Hawk is correct.  Who looks like the likely 5th place, Gravette or someone else?  I'm not sure on where Lincoln will finish yet because I'm not sure how good the competition has been.  A pair of 3-7 the last two seasons and a couple of 5-5 in junior high leave me skeptical.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Patriot12 on September 12, 2018, 07:49:21 pm
Lincoln plays the softest preseason and and now talks about taken down one or more of the big three. I might be wrong but if they had played any of the conference teams preseason schedule short of Greenforst I don't think we would be having this conversation.  It would be nice for the bottom half of the conference to push the top but it's way to early for that.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: whippersnapper on September 12, 2018, 08:47:30 pm
The only Lincoln "talk" of them finishing in the top 4 is by a guy with the word hawk in his name. I'm gonna guess he isn't a Lincoln poster.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Hawk4L on September 12, 2018, 09:51:27 pm
I think Lincoln will finish 4th. If they finish lower I wouldn't be surprised. But they have won first 2 games easily. I know it's easy schedule.  PR by far has the hardest schedule.   This is my prediction
1 Shiloh
2 PR
3 PG
4 Lincoln
5 Gravette
6 Berryville
7 Green Forest
8 Gentry
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Thatoneguy2 on September 13, 2018, 10:58:01 am
Green Forest will win the dang 4a-1 hands down. Green forest will take down Shiloh in 3 quarters but possible lose to berryville. The Pg game will be an easy blowout for Green forest by 30. Gravette will be tough but be over by the start of the 2 half. Lincoln will overcome the struggle of the green forest defense and offence but will still win by 24. Green forest will get beat by pea ridge though. Green forest will make it to the semifinals at least. Green forest has 2 d1 stars and that will help them in the playoffs. GREEN FOREST ALL THE WAY!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Lizard47 on September 13, 2018, 12:21:44 pm
Quote from: Thatoneguy2 on September 13, 2018, 10:58:01 am
Green Forest will win the dang 4a-1 hands down. Green forest will take down Shiloh in 3 quarters but possible lose to berryville. The Pg game will be an easy blowout for Green forest by 30. Gravette will be tough but be over by the start of the 2 half. Lincoln will overcome the struggle of the green forest defense and offence but will still win by 24. Green forest will get beat by pea ridge though. Green forest will make it to the semifinals at least. Green forest has 2 d1 stars and that will help them in the playoffs. GREEN FOREST ALL THE WAY!!!!!!!!!

What the heck?
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: bilboswaggins on September 13, 2018, 01:33:37 pm
Man, the top teams losing a few games that weren't cupcakes sure has others crawling out from behind their keyboards.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: beach bum on September 13, 2018, 05:24:29 pm
Quote from: Hawk4L on September 12, 2018, 09:51:27 pm
I think Lincoln will finish 4th. If they finish lower I wouldn't be surprised. But they have won first 2 games easily. I know it's easy schedule.  PR by far has the hardest schedule.   This is my prediction
1 Shiloh
2 PR
3 PG
4 Lincoln
5 Gravette
6 Berryville
7 Green Forest
8 Gentry

Right now I would have to agree on those rankings. Those are solid. It's going to be interesting if this is the year Lincoln catches one of those top 3 on the wrong night and pulls an extra win off.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Thatoneguy2 on September 13, 2018, 05:27:22 pm
Quote from: beach bum on September 13, 2018, 05:24:29 pm
Right now I would have to agree on those rankings. Those are solid. It's going to be interesting if this is the year Lincoln catches one of those top 3 on the wrong night and pulls an extra win off.

Green forest easy 1 seed or 2 seed
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: beach bum on September 13, 2018, 05:29:13 pm
Quote from: Patriot12 on September 12, 2018, 07:49:21 pm
Lincoln plays the softest preseason and and now talks about taken down one or more of the big three. I might be wrong but if they had played any of the conference teams preseason schedule short of Greenforst I don't think we would be having this conversation.  It would be nice for the bottom half of the conference to push the top but it's way to early for that.


We all understand Lincoln has played a weak schedule. However, typical "stinkin Lincoln" teams would not be winning games with ease like they did the first two even against bad competition. Combine that with knowing Pea Ridge and Prairie Grove are obviously no longer on their respective magic carpet rides, at this point you have to say Lincoln looks a cut above the bottom 4 and will play PR and PG way better than the last half decade.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: beach bum on September 13, 2018, 05:31:31 pm
Quote from: Thatoneguy2 on September 13, 2018, 05:27:22 pm
Green forest easy 1 seed or 2 seed


Their 3.5 points per game including a tough loss to juggernaut Yellville Summit has the 1-4A shaken to the core  ;D ..... Maybe they can have a Carroll County All Star team and then they can get the 5 seed
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: beach bum on September 14, 2018, 09:55:47 pm
It appears the 1-4A brought it tonight so they wouldn't look like a ship that has completely taken in water yet

My suspicions seemed correct to not put too much into Pea Ridge's big loss to Harrison cause I knew Harrison was going to be good. The Goblins have the potential to finish 10-0 headed to the playoffs so there was no shame in the Blackhawks loss to them. Pea Ridge's win against Farmington obviously shows they are a cut above Prairie Grove even after PG beating Pottsville. That was a nice bounce back by PG though


Shiloh keeps putting up solid results. Them and Pea Ridge should be a really good game. Even after PG getting their first win you still have to say they lag behind the top 2
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Hawk4L on September 14, 2018, 10:14:57 pm
After watching PR destroy Farmington I've changed my mind.  PR will win the conference.   Defense absolutely domainted the game.  Tate Busey had coming out party.   Looked great.  Hunter Raines had big day at WR.  Gentry fans should just stay home next week when PR comes to town.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: DerekOxford on September 14, 2018, 10:36:21 pm
I'll say:

Shiloh
PR
Lincoln
PG
Berry
Grav
GF
Gentry
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: BigGuy22 on September 14, 2018, 11:05:36 pm
The game that will decide the one seed will be Week 10 at Pea Ridge. Shiloh vs Pea Ridge for the conference championship and the one seed for the playoffs! Pea Ridge absolutely dominated Farmington tonight! They looked completely different from last week! 0 turnovers and I believe 5 Takeaways on Defense!! 42-0 isn't ever an easy task against a solid 5A team
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: beach bum on September 15, 2018, 09:45:12 am
Quote from: BigGuy22 on September 14, 2018, 11:05:36 pm
The game that will decide the one seed will be Week 10 at Pea Ridge. Shiloh vs Pea Ridge for the conference championship and the one seed for the playoffs! Pea Ridge absolutely dominated Farmington tonight! They looked completely different from last week! 0 turnovers and I believe 5 Takeaways on Defense!! 42-0 isn't ever an easy task against a solid 5A team




Farmington is definitely not a solid 5A program. They are mediocre at best. They're honestly probably the most underachieving program in all of NWA in my opinion. They always have a big line and decent athletes. Not great athletes but enough to win some. What this good Pea Ridge result shows though is just how far PG dropped compared to Pea Ridge seeming to get things together well now. This big win for Pea Ridge shows just how bad of a loss that was for PG to Farmington. Pea Ridge and Shiloh will be a really good game.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Bobby Peru on September 15, 2018, 11:02:28 pm
Not even mediocre. Forget the fact there in a tuff 5A west conference They are 4-5 vs the 4A-1 over the last 3 years with 2 of those wins vs Huntsville.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: RZback on September 16, 2018, 01:52:30 pm
Great night for PR.  Does throw a wrench in how the conference goes now.  I still wouldn't count out PG in any conference race.  the top three are the top three and right now it looks like a Lincoln 4th unless the quality of their opponents is even less than I suspect.  Berryville's wins and the rest of the conference bottom are not against strong teams either so I think you gotta put your money on Lincoln for 4th. 
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: nuttinbuthogs on September 16, 2018, 02:26:39 pm
"Combine that with knowing Pea Ridge and Prairie Grove are obviously no longer on their respective magic carpet rides," BBum,
Maybe the genie is back out of the bottle.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: whippersnapper on September 16, 2018, 07:46:13 pm
Conference starts out this week. Predictions?
Gravette @ Lincoln
Pea Ridge @ Gentry
Green Forest @ Prairie Grove
Berryville @ Shiloh
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: bilboswaggins on September 16, 2018, 07:59:39 pm
Lincoln with the upset
Pea Ridge wins
Prairie Grove is Prairie Grove again
Shiloh wins easily
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: beach bum on September 16, 2018, 09:52:46 pm
Quote from: nuttinbuthogs on September 16, 2018, 02:26:39 pm
"Combine that with knowing Pea Ridge and Prairie Grove are obviously no longer on their respective magic carpet rides," BBum,
Maybe the genie is back out of the bottle.


I knew out of PG and Pea Ridge's early season losses that people were overreacting to Pea Ridge's big loss to Harrison cause I knew Harrison was even going to beat at least half of their own 5A conference like a drum. Honestly, whoever gets the 1 seed in this conference is in a pretty good portion of the bracket to at least have a chance again at a pretty good playoff run. If Shiloh and Pea Ridge do what we expect then their week 10 meeting is huge cause the 2 seed's road is much tougher. Pea Ridge is no longer on the magic carpet ride, but has kept it together better than PG. Pea Ridge is still capable of a double digit win season including playoffs if it all plays out right. PG on the other hand had the carpet ride fall in the grass and get ran over by a lawn mower possibly never to fly again.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: beach bum on September 16, 2018, 09:58:12 pm
Has it been since 2013 since Lincoln has beaten Gravette? I think they get over the hump and win between 14 and 17 points this week.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Hawk4L on September 16, 2018, 11:01:45 pm
20 Gravette @ Lincoln 34
52 Pea Ridge @ Gentry 7
14 Green Forest @ Prairie Grove 28
7 Berryville @ Shiloh 42
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: nuttinbuthogs on September 17, 2018, 12:05:03 pm
I don't see how Lincoln over Gravette could be called an upset.
Lincoln 35, Gravette 17
Pea Ridge 48, Gentry 0
Prairie Grove 35, Green Forest 7
Shiloh 42, Berryville 7
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Thatoneguy2 on September 17, 2018, 12:42:15 pm
1.GF
2.PR
3.Shiloh
4.PG
5.Gentry
6.Gravette
7.Lincoln
8.Berryville
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: prHOG13 on September 17, 2018, 12:50:14 pm
Quote from: nuttinbuthogs on September 17, 2018, 12:05:03 pm
I don't see how Lincoln over Gravette could be called an upset.
Lincoln 35, Gravette 17
Pea Ridge 48, Gentry 0
Prairie Grove 35, Green Forest 7
Shiloh 42, Berryville 7
Agree, Gravette is in complete rebuild mode. Lincoln wins comfortably.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Thatoneguy2 on September 17, 2018, 12:51:40 pm
Quote from: prHOG13 on September 17, 2018, 12:50:14 pm
Agree, Gravette is in complete rebuild mode. Lincoln wins comfortably.

Not very accurate, please do some research.
Also gentry will score 7 against PR
Green Forest will win against PG
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: beach bum on September 17, 2018, 01:52:40 pm
Quote from: Thatoneguy2 on September 17, 2018, 12:42:15 pm
1.GF
2.PR
3.Shiloh
4.PG
5.Gentry
6.Gravette
7.Lincoln
8.Berryville


I like they way you think cause we have finally found a 1-4A poster with more loose screws than myself.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: beach bum on September 17, 2018, 01:53:41 pm
Quote from: prHOG13 on September 17, 2018, 12:50:14 pm
Agree, Gravette is in complete rebuild mode. Lincoln wins comfortably.

I think the old coach picked a very wise time to get out of town....
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Thatoneguy2 on September 17, 2018, 02:31:59 pm
Quote from: beach bum on September 17, 2018, 01:52:40 pm

I like they way you think cause we have finally found a 1-4A poster with more loose screws than myself.


Im not the brightest but I know my football. I predicted the comeback for Pea ridge and Tate Busey, so I think I understand the 4a-1 well enough to post accurate posts.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: SUGARTOWN on September 17, 2018, 02:36:25 pm
Quote from: beach bum on September 17, 2018, 01:52:40 pm

I like they way you think cause we have finally found a 1-4A poster with more loose screws than myself.

But he'll be gone in a couple of weeks and you'll still be here.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Thatoneguy2 on September 17, 2018, 02:53:16 pm
Quote from: SUGARTOWN on September 17, 2018, 02:36:25 pm
But he'll be gone in a couple of weeks and you'll still be here.


Nope im here to stay. Just wait over time ill have better ideas.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: bilboswaggins on September 17, 2018, 09:08:52 pm
Quote from: nuttinbuthogs on September 17, 2018, 12:05:03 pm
I don't see how Lincoln over Gravette could be called an upset.
Lincoln 35, Gravette 17
Pea Ridge 48, Gentry 0
Prairie Grove 35, Green Forest 7
Shiloh 42, Berryville 7

Well, last year did you even consider the thought that Lincoln would beat Gravette this year before the season started?
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Patriot12 on September 17, 2018, 09:38:31 pm
I new Bill was a smart guy.  Stinkien Lincoln to take down Lions.  Gravette has joined the bottom of the conference more then Lincoln has moved into the top.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: RZback on September 17, 2018, 10:18:57 pm
Doesn't seem like the same 1-4A of the past 5 years or so.  We'll see how good the conference is when playoffs arrive.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: footballclaim on September 18, 2018, 09:30:09 pm
Man if I had to put out a top 4 (because the bottom is usually a dumpster fire) ranking I'd say
1. Shiloh
2. Pea Ridge
3. Prairie Grove
4. Lincoln
Shiloh's defense is stellar with a stout d-line and secondary with playmakers all around and the offense has athletes to spare. The only place where I would hesitate is their offense and the quarterback position especially.
Pea Ridge is a solid team with talent all around but I can't give to much detail because i don't know them as well.
Prairie Grove is down this year I'd say but they have a toughness about them that gives them a definite advantage over most teams.
Honestly can't wait for week 10 rivalry game between Pea Ridge and Shiloh. That always has emotions running high and hostility to almost a maximum.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: HeberFan on September 19, 2018, 09:11:29 am
My computer says computer's can't predict football games.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: RZback on September 19, 2018, 12:12:23 pm
Very curious to how the conference will turn out because it seems weaker than previous years.  Want to see how 1-4A does in playoffs.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Stealthfan on September 19, 2018, 11:50:17 pm
Several kids across at least 5 of the teams went on to play at the next level from last year.  Those players had their starting spots most if not all their HS playing careers.  The conference will gel as the season progresses.  There is some reloading with players a little wet behind the ears right now. 
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: bigchief72455 on September 21, 2018, 09:30:54 pm
Quote from: Thatoneguy2 on September 17, 2018, 02:31:59 pm

Im not the brightest but I know my football. I predicted the comeback for Pea ridge and Tate Busey, so I think I understand the 4a-1 well enough to post accurate posts.
Quote from: Thatoneguy2 on September 17, 2018, 12:51:40 pm
Not very accurate, please do some research.
Also gentry will score 7 against PR
Green Forest will win against PG
What about now?
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Thatoneguy2 on September 22, 2018, 12:27:52 am
1 out of 2 right I guess. I guess green forest is goin 0-10 and Pea Ridge will win 4a-1
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Hawk4L on September 22, 2018, 07:31:56 am
Gentry's only score was a kick return.  Was very muddy and sloppy game. Refs tried to give Gentry every call but they are just not any good. Ready to see how good Lincoln is next week when they play Pea Ridge
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Baller91 on September 22, 2018, 11:16:34 am
Quote from: Hawk4L on September 22, 2018, 07:31:56 am
Gentry's only score was a kick return.  Was very muddy and sloppy game. Refs tried to give Gentry every call but they are just not any good. Ready to see how good Lincoln is next week when they play Pea Ridge

The only reply this ignorance deserves is - delusional. Any time Pea Ridge doesn't play well, it's the refs, or the weather, or anything else that is just an excuse for the fact that they just aren't that good this year.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: RZback on September 22, 2018, 01:11:33 pm
It was wet and sloppy all over the state last night.  Gentry did score on a kick return. Officials did miss a few calls, (they always do).  Didn't think PR played with a lot of grit last night in the bad weather, just enough to win easily.  They are showing signs of improvement from early in the year though. 
Too bad it had to get ugly at the end.
Conference still seems to be up for grabs.  PG destroyed GF, Shiloh handled Berryville with ease, Lincoln and Gravette was more of a game than I expected but Gravette is down from past years for sure.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: whippersnapper on September 22, 2018, 01:41:54 pm
Lincoln vs Gravette was a defensive ball game. Wolves only completed 2 passes the whole night and ran the ball around 85-90% of the time. Eventually in the 4th qtr Lincoln's little bit of depth showed up along the LOS. Lincoln punched in the go ahead TD with less then 5 mins to go. Lloyd had around 100 yards rushing while senior Crittenden added around 50 I would guess. Gotta be able to wins those type of games and this will help the wolves out later down the road. Should make for a good game in pea ridge this coming Friday.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: RZback on September 22, 2018, 01:51:17 pm
Lincoln at PR will be important in sorting out who wins what in conference.  Gravette vs PG, Berryville vs Gentry. Those games may be the ones with the most in doubt of who will win or how they could affect the end of conference standings.  Lincolns opponents so far haven't shown much firepower on offense so will be interesting to see how that works out next week. A win here would be big. Gravette desperately needs to get a win somehow, doubtful.  Berryville needs this to stay out of the bottom and have any chance to get to the playoffs.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Hawk4L on September 22, 2018, 04:49:50 pm
Quote from: Baller91 on September 22, 2018, 11:16:34 am
The only reply this ignorance deserves is - delusional. Any time Pea Ridge doesn't play well, it's the refs, or the weather, or anything else that is just an excuse for the fact that they just aren't that good this year.

Were you at the game ?? Gentry is terrible and PR had tons of penalties. PR played very conservative game. It's not delusion.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Baller91 on September 22, 2018, 04:58:18 pm
Quote from: Hawk4L on September 22, 2018, 04:49:50 pm
Were you at the game ?? Gentry is terrible and PR had tons of penalties. PR played very conservative game. It's not delusion.
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Yes, I was at the game. Pea Ridge earned every penalty they got and then some. The holding calls that were missed (against PR) were numerous. The entire conference is down, but this PR team was not impressive at all. Were they better than Gentry - yes, but if they are as good as you seem to think they are, they would have beat Gentry by a lot more than 20. There is no way the team I watched will win the conference.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Baller91 on September 22, 2018, 05:10:17 pm
Quote from: RZback on September 22, 2018, 01:11:33 pm
It was wet and sloppy all over the state last night.  Gentry did score on a kick return. Officials did miss a few calls, (they always do).  Didn't think PR played with a lot of grit last night in the bad weather, just enough to win easily.  They are showing signs of improvement from early in the year though. 
Too bad it had to get ugly at the end.
Conference still seems to be up for grabs.  PG destroyed GF, Shiloh handled Berryville with ease, Lincoln and Gravette was more of a game than I expected but Gravette is down from past years for sure.
Well put. I hated that the Gentry PR game got ugly at the end too. Both teams lost three players for next week because cooler heads didn't prevail. Unfortunately, that is going to hurt Gentry a lot more than PR due to the lack of depth Gentry has. I just wasn't impressed with PR overall. They looked well below their usual caliber. Gentry has some real issues which is a shame because there are a handful of kids on that team with some real talent. I don't know what the answer is for their program.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Hawk4L on September 22, 2018, 05:56:15 pm
Yes PR is below what your use to seeing. They have dominated the conference for 3 seasons. It's a lot of new faces. Of course they will not be as good but the conference is terrible and they have a very good shot at winning conference. They didn't play great your right but doesn't mean anything. No one in the conference has a chance at going far in state.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Patriot12 on September 22, 2018, 09:59:17 pm
Only thing worse then a sore looser is a classless winner welcome to Blackhawk football It's the ref, it's the weather, the other team is terrible  yes we only won
27-7 but we have plenty of excuses without giving any credit to who we play.

I think the ridge will win the conference. They have a very good defense just wish they could do it with more class. It's not been that long ago that they where the door mat of the conference. 

Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: bilboswaggins on September 22, 2018, 10:18:41 pm
Quote from: Hawk4L on September 22, 2018, 05:56:15 pm
Yes PR is below what your use to seeing. They have dominated the conference for 3 seasons. It's a lot of new faces. Of course they will not be as good but the conference is terrible and they have a very good shot at winning conference. They didn't play great your right but doesn't mean anything. No one in the conference has a chance at going far in state.

Uhhhhh wrong. PG??
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: RZback on September 23, 2018, 09:46:08 am
I've already said that I didn't think PR played well on Friday, I don't think a lot of it had to do with how Gentry did play.  You either show up excited to be there and play that way or you don't.  PR didn't look excited to be there.  The rain, maybe, bad pregame meal, maybe.  Who knows but they did win by a comfortable margin and Gentry really was only a small factor.  Sorry if that sounds bad but it's really the truth.  Gentry does have some good players, but not enough and their attitude is lacking.  A team that has tradtionally struggled and that is averaging 10.5 on offense and giving up 32 on defense needs to look at itself and see what the problem is.  It doesn't get fixed with questionable tactics during the game.  Moral victories just don't get it done for most teams.  I'm sure the coaches struggle with it every day. Finding a fix.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Baller91 on September 23, 2018, 11:24:08 am
Quote from: RZback on September 23, 2018, 09:46:08 am
I've already said that I didn't think PR played well on Friday, I don't think a lot of it had to do with how Gentry did play.  You either show up excited to be there and play that way or you don't.  PR didn't look excited to be there.  The rain, maybe, bad pregame meal, maybe.  Who knows but they did win by a comfortable margin and Gentry really was only a small factor.  Sorry if that sounds bad but it's really the truth.  Gentry does have some good players, but not enough and their attitude is lacking.  A team that has tradtionally struggled and that is averaging 10.5 on offense and giving up 32 on defense needs to look at itself and see what the problem is.  It doesn't get fixed with questionable tactics during the game.  Moral victories just don't get it done for most teams.  I'm sure the coaches struggle with it every day. Finding a fix.
I assure you the attitude and questionable tactics were just as prevalent from the PR players. There was plenty of that going on with both teams.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Dart@1090 on September 23, 2018, 01:30:55 pm
I watched most of the Game against Gentry, an feel PR played a very vanilla game.  Also, that series has really gotten chippy over that last 10 years for some unknown reason.  Been way to much talk between the teams.  It is sad the #'s that Gentry has fallen down to.  Would not be surprised at all if they were to drop to 3A.  Looks as if PG revived It's season with a waxing of GF.  I imagine it will be a 3 horse race again this year with Lincoln  lurking at the 4 spot wishing for an upset.  Should be fun to watch!!! 
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Hawk4L on September 23, 2018, 07:09:46 pm
Gentry couldn't compete in 3A in boys sports. The program is in trouble and it's not looking good at the pee wee level either.  There Girls basketball teams are about the only thing they compete in and that's only bc they have one of the best coaches in the state.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: footballclaim on September 23, 2018, 08:03:14 pm
What about the game that PG played against Green Forest? That score seems to be just a bit cruel to me. I mean come on those kids were getting absolutely fried.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: beach bum on September 23, 2018, 08:34:02 pm
Quote from: footballclaim on September 23, 2018, 08:03:14 pm
What about the game that PG played against Green Forest? That score seems to be just a bit cruel to me. I mean come on those kids were getting absolutely fried.


PG scored only 7 in the 2nd half so I am not sure what you are even talking about. It's not like they dropped 3 or 4 TD's in the 2nd half to pour it on.... When it got to 42-0 I am sure he yanked the first team offense right then so I really don't know what else you expect a team to do except knee it which would be a disgrace to competition. It has more to do with a team that lost to Yellville Summit is in this conference and outside of enrollment Green Forest has no business being in the 1-4A. This won't be the first time its 40 something to 0 half way through the 2nd quarter for Green Forest this season.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: gameoflife on September 23, 2018, 08:40:42 pm
Quote from: footballclaim on September 23, 2018, 08:03:14 pm
What about the game that PG played against Green Forest? That score seems to be just a bit cruel to me. I mean come on those kids were getting absolutely fried.

Sometimes a team is just so defenseless there isn't any way to stop scoring and keep playing.  It's too bad that GF has come to this. 
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: beach bum on September 23, 2018, 08:47:41 pm
Quote from: gameoflife on September 23, 2018, 08:40:42 pm
Sometimes a team is just so defenseless there isn't any way to stop scoring and keep playing.  It's too bad that GF has come to this.

Exactly, it has more to do with GF than anything.... Honestly I just feel bad for them that they squeaked in enrollment wise to 4A just barely.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Baller91 on September 23, 2018, 09:37:06 pm
Quote from: Hawk4L on September 23, 2018, 07:09:46 pm
Gentry couldn't compete in 3A in boys sports. The program is in trouble and it's not looking good at the pee wee level either.  There Girls basketball teams are about the only thing they compete in and that's only bc they have one of the best coaches in the state.
ka

Apparently you didn't attend the boys' basketball games last season.They were both very close games. As far as the Gentry Girls' Coach being one of the best in the state, that is a matter of opinion.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: bilboswaggins on September 23, 2018, 10:22:24 pm
Quote from: footballclaim on September 23, 2018, 08:03:14 pm
What about the game that PG played against Green Forest? That score seems to be just a bit cruel to me. I mean come on those kids were getting absolutely fried.

Starters were pulled shortly after the first quarter. It could have been very cruel.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Lizard47 on September 24, 2018, 12:30:37 am
Wow, this thread is trying to go postal. There is obviously some unrest in the 4A-1. Don't get all chippy and injure each other up too bad before the playoffs.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: HeberFan on September 24, 2018, 10:07:27 am
On to the next thread
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: beach bum on September 24, 2018, 11:35:14 am
Quote from: HeberFan on September 24, 2018, 10:07:27 am
On to the next thread


Go back to the Heber/Stuttgart thread where you all can discuss Stuttgart's beat down of the team by the lake....
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: nuttinbuthogs on September 25, 2018, 09:39:36 am
Pretty clear the 1-4A is not as good as the past few years.  At least not at this point. Maybe the teams will see enough improvement to make a better than expected showing in the playoffs.  Am glad to see Lincoln doing better but I do wonder about the level of competition so far so this weeks game is important to see how far they have come.  Some are saying that the conference is so far down that is why Lincoln is better.  I'll wait for the season and maybe even next season to see where the Wolves are in terms of program improvement but it's nice to see them winning.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: whippersnapper on September 25, 2018, 10:56:22 am
I believe its a combo of both the conf being down and Lincoln having better talent. So far Lloyd and senior class are playing like seniors should. They are trying to make this year their best yet. Stay the course and lets beat the blackhawks this week.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: RZback on September 25, 2018, 12:43:08 pm
Couple of factors in breaking down this week and the rest of the year.
Lincoln vs Pea Ridge.  If Lincoln can win it, it would really shake up things.  If Lincoln loses, then Berryville may be able to move into the top 4-5.  Berryville beats Gentry and if they can manage a win against Lincoln they are in good shape.  A win also against Gravette and they finish off with a win against GR they are at least #4.  Difficult but possible.
I think Pea Ridge will beat Lincoln and then we will see about all the rest. Lincoln has beaten teams that only have 2 wins total among them.  So Lincoln has to prove it can beat a good team before I see them as improved more than the conference is just way down. Rest of the year very key for them.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: nuttinbuthogs on September 25, 2018, 02:36:42 pm
Make sure you bring your glasses.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: GRN R H-2 X-Deep Over on September 26, 2018, 10:56:33 am
So who's gonna be the 5 seed? Berryville, Gentry, or Gravette?
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: whippersnapper on September 26, 2018, 11:25:41 am
At this point you would have to give the nod to Berryville. They have at least won a couple games so you know their confidence is up. If they win this so against gentry then find a way to get the lions at home so 7 it only leaves them with getting over GF at that point.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: nuttinbuthogs on September 27, 2018, 12:09:07 pm
Big week in lining up the order of conference finish.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: BigGuy22 on September 27, 2018, 01:19:13 pm
This is how I'm thinking the conference will wind up this year.
1. PR/Shiloh
2. These two spots will be determined Week 10 when PR and Shiloh match up
3. Lincoln- I think Lincoln will upset PG, its a tough task but I think it could happen
4. PG- Prairie Grove loses to Shiloh/PR/Lincoln and wins out all other games
5. Gravette- Kind of a toss up with these last 3 spots but I think Gravette will take the 5
6. Berryville-
7. Green Forrest- Enough Said ;D
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: nuttinbuthogs on September 27, 2018, 02:20:21 pm
So if Lincoln or should I say when Lincoln wins Friday, they will fight for 1st.   
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Baller91 on September 27, 2018, 02:48:00 pm
Quote from: BigGuy22 on September 27, 2018, 01:19:13 pm
This is how I'm thinking the conference will wind up this year.
1. PR/Shiloh
2. These two spots will be determined Week 10 when PR and Shiloh match up
3. Lincoln- I think Lincoln will upset PG, its a tough task but I think it could happen
4. PG- Prairie Grove loses to Shiloh/PR/Lincoln and wins out all other games
5. Gravette- Kind of a toss up with these last 3 spots but I think Gravette will take the 5
6. Berryville-
7. Green Forrest- Enough Said ;D

I know Gentry is struggling this year, but they didn't even rank in your list - harsh.😂
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Hawk4L on September 27, 2018, 10:01:14 pm
I'm starting to think Gravette might only beat Green Forest. This is probably the worst Gravette team ever   
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: HeberFan on September 28, 2018, 08:59:23 am
Quote from: Hawk4L on September 27, 2018, 10:01:14 pm
I'm starting to think Gravette might only beat Green Forest. This is probably the worst Gravette team ever

Gravette was good last year.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: RZback on September 28, 2018, 09:30:30 am
Quote from: nuttinbuthogs on September 27, 2018, 02:20:21 pm
So if Lincoln or should I say when Lincoln wins Friday, they will fight for 1st.

Wow!   That's a leap of faith.  Better worry about Friday and the Blackhawks first. 
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Redskin2015 on September 28, 2018, 09:58:14 am
Quote from: HeberFan on September 28, 2018, 08:59:23 am
Gravette was good last year.
Gravette is usually solid every year never a team that just explodes on the field but they usually have good execution and everyone does their job weird to see them struggling
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: GRN R H-2 X-Deep Over on September 28, 2018, 11:31:30 am
Is Pea Ridge going away from the I formation? I have not been to any of their games but there is a video of the Harrison game on YouTube and I did not see much of my favorite formation. Any reasons why?
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Hawk4L on September 28, 2018, 05:12:06 pm
Running read option now that we have a more mobile QB and our wr's are not like we've had the past few seasons.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: BigGuy22 on September 28, 2018, 05:30:10 pm
They still run the I! Heck they run the I plus one.. they bring the big DE to offense and line him up at fullback.. it's a package that always seems to work.. only reason it gets taken off the field is a penalty that knocks back to a longer first or second down. But yes, they're is some read option, some i formation, some heavy sets, and some spread offense.. we are a pretty balanced offense since they're isn't a stand out star on the the offensive side so everyone has to produce
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Hawk4L on September 29, 2018, 07:03:40 am
My new projected finish
1 Shiloh
2 PR
3 Lincoln
4 PG (with way they have been scoring I'm not so sure they could jump to 2 hard totell with the opponents they did it against
5 Gentry
6 Berryville
7 Green Forest
8 Gravette (very surprised at how bad they seem so far)
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: RZback on September 29, 2018, 10:42:58 am
Quote from: BigGuy22 on September 28, 2018, 05:30:10 pm
They still run the I! Heck they run the I plus one.. they bring the big DE to offense and line him up at fullback.. it's a package that always seems to work.. only reason it gets taken off the field is a penalty that knocks back to a longer first or second down. But yes, they're is some read option, some i formation, some heavy sets, and some spread offense.. we are a pretty balanced offense since they're isn't a stand out star on the the offensive side so everyone has to produce

The power sets seem to be the best run game formations for PR, both the I with fullback and the overloaded wing sets.  IMO.  Young QB should develop as time goes on but is inconsistent right now.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: $aintMaximu$ on September 29, 2018, 02:02:14 pm
Quote from: Hawk4L on September 29, 2018, 07:03:40 am
My new projected finish
1 Shiloh
2 PR
3 Lincoln
4 PG (with way they have been scoring I'm not so sure they could jump to 2 hard totell with the opponents they did it against
5 Gentry
6 Berryville
7 Green Forest
8 Gravette (very surprised at how bad they seem so far)

Haw4L, I have watched everybody play and I don't see anything compelling to rank the top 3. I think anything can happen with those 3.  I can't imagine anybody is as bad as Green Forest. They just don't have the numbers. Here is what I have-

1. Shiloh, PR, PG
4. Lincoln
5. Gentry
6. Berryville
7. Gravette
8. Green Forest

Bum, love to see your top 3 and why.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: beach bum on September 29, 2018, 02:43:52 pm
Quote from: $aintMaximu$ on September 29, 2018, 02:02:14 pm
Haw4L, I have watched everybody play and I don't see anything compelling to rank the top 3. I think anything can happen with those 3.  I can't imagine anybody is as bad as Green Forest. They just don't have the numbers. Here is what I have-

1. Shiloh, PR, PG
4. Lincoln
5. Gentry
6. Berryville
7. Gravette
8. Green Forest

Bum, love to see your top 3 and why.


I was leaning Pea Ridge after their narrow loss to Maumelle and big win over Farmington. Their last two wins leaves the questions again a little. That is why now I would lean Shiloh.... PG has won big doing what they should the last two weeks, but we all have to remember the lack of quality in the opponents. If PG loses to the other two top teams then week 10 becomes huge for the playoffs with Shiloh vs Pea Ridge as well as PG vs Lincoln. Shiloh seems to go through the least offensive droughts so that has to give them a leg up with the lack of offense in this league compared to previous years.


1.Shiloh

2. Pea Ridge

3. Prairie Grove

4.Lincoln
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: RZback on September 29, 2018, 05:03:21 pm
Quote from: beach bum on September 29, 2018, 02:43:52 pm

I was leaning Pea Ridge after their narrow loss to Maumelle and big win over Farmington. Their last two wins leaves the questions again a little. That is why now I would lean Shiloh.... PG has won big doing what they should the last two weeks, but we all have to remember the lack of quality in the opponents. If PG loses to the other two top teams then week 10 becomes huge for the playoffs with Shiloh vs Pea Ridge as well as PG vs Lincoln. Shiloh seems to go through the least offensive droughts so that has to give them a leg up with the lack of offense in this league compared to previous years.


1.Shiloh

2. Pea Ridge

3. Prairie Grove

4.Lincoln

I'd say you got it about right unless something weird happens.  Wild card is PG, they can play so physically and they don't make lots of mistakes.  Lincoln doesn't have the muscle to win against the big three.  PR is young and makes too many unforced errors. Not sure any are good enough to go far in the playoffs.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: nuttinbuthogs on September 30, 2018, 02:11:50 pm
Quote from: beach bum on September 29, 2018, 02:43:52 pm

1.Shiloh

2. Pea Ridge

3. Prairie Grove

4.Lincoln


I'm afraid you have it about right, seems I overestimated Lincoln again.  Oh well, still better to be in the top 4 than bottom four even if its because the conference is even weaker than usual, Lincoln is non-the-less better than bottom group and bound for the playoffs, I think.  Looks like seven wins, best season in a while.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: RZback on October 05, 2018, 12:32:42 pm
Prairie Grove and Shiloh, big big game tonight,  as well as Berryville v Lincoln, Gentry v Westfork.  Those will weigh heavy on the final outcome.   Don't expect to see much chance of upset in PR v Gravette.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: HeberFan on October 05, 2018, 12:39:24 pm
Quote from: nuttinbuthogs on September 30, 2018, 02:11:50 pm
I'm afraid you have it about right, seems I overestimated Lincoln again.  Oh well, still better to be in the top 4 than bottom four even if its because the conference is even weaker than usual, Lincoln is non-the-less better than bottom group and bound for the playoffs, I think.  Looks like seven wins, best season in a while.

No way to overestimate Lincoln. He was maybe our best president!
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: bilboswaggins on October 05, 2018, 01:07:55 pm
Quote from: RZback on October 05, 2018, 12:32:42 pm
Prairie Grove and Shiloh, big big game tonight,  as well as Berryville v Lincoln, Gentry v Westfork.  Those will weigh heavy on the final outcome.   Don't expect to see much chance of upset in PR v Gravette.
As always Shiloh vs PG is gonna be a tough match up. Shiloh has always struggled to beat physical teams and PG's secondary hasn't been tested like they will be tonight. I'm still giving the nod to PG because of defense.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: beach bum on October 05, 2018, 02:03:53 pm
Quote from: bilboswaggins on October 05, 2018, 01:07:55 pm
As always Shiloh vs PG is gonna be a tough match up. Shiloh has always struggled to beat physical teams and PG's secondary hasn't been tested like they will be tonight. I'm still giving the nod to PG because of defense.


PG always matches up so well with Shiloh. I am taking PG in the semi upset of the week.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: HeberFan on October 05, 2018, 02:09:00 pm
Quote from: beach bum on October 05, 2018, 02:03:53 pm

PG always matches up so well with Shiloh. I am taking PG in the semi upset of the week.

I think Shiloh wins because they have cool helments.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: beach bum on October 05, 2018, 02:12:35 pm
Quote from: HeberFan on October 05, 2018, 02:09:00 pm
I think Shiloh wins because they have cool helments.


They are quite shiny... The glare of the lights on them may blind the eyes of the PG defensive backs when attempting to guard the air raid of the Shiloh passing game.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: HeberFan on October 05, 2018, 02:58:06 pm
Quote from: beach bum on October 05, 2018, 02:12:35 pm

They are quite shiny... The glare of the lights on them may blind the eyes of the PG defensive backs when attempting to guard the air raid of the Shiloh passing game.

I think "style points" should be a thing in football.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: $aintMaximu$ on October 05, 2018, 04:00:35 pm
Beach Bum will you be at the game?
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: beach bum on October 05, 2018, 06:24:21 pm
Quote from: $aintMaximu$ on October 05, 2018, 04:00:35 pm
Beach Bum will you be at the game?

I will not... Will you be updating scores?
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: $aintMaximu$ on October 05, 2018, 07:43:28 pm
Sure... 28- 7 Shiloh early in Q2....
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: $aintMaximu$ on October 05, 2018, 07:49:10 pm
Bum this could get ugly.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: beach bum on October 05, 2018, 08:14:07 pm
Quote from: $aintMaximu$ on October 05, 2018, 07:49:10 pm
Bum this could get ugly.


If PG scores a couple more in the 2nd half Shiloh may have to get to 60 or 70  :o ... to make sure this gets out of reach
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: $aintMaximu$ on October 05, 2018, 08:28:24 pm
Half time it's 35 to 14
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: $aintMaximu$ on October 05, 2018, 08:46:33 pm
PG is melting down. They have fumbled 3 kick offs in the second half. Shiloh has ball and it's 49-14.  Wow.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: beach bum on October 05, 2018, 08:48:18 pm
Quote from: $aintMaximu$ on October 05, 2018, 08:46:33 pm
PG is melting down. They have fumbled 3 kick offs in the second half. Shiloh has ball and it's 49-14.  Wow.

Pea Ridge just got put on notice about their week 10 opponent it seems....
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: $aintMaximu$ on October 05, 2018, 09:00:12 pm
56-14. Fat lady was singing at halftime I guess.  Just starting the 4th.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Hawk4L on October 05, 2018, 09:01:48 pm
PR up 42-0 on Gravette 5min left.   Gravette stands empty.  Never seen them this bad.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: beach bum on October 05, 2018, 09:17:10 pm
Been a long time since PG took a drubbing like that
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: RZback on October 06, 2018, 07:52:36 pm
I don't know if thats the largest margin of defeat for PG but they were sure outmanned in the game last night.  Shiloh seems to have it all together.
As for the Gravette PR game, Gravette really is at a low point.
Looks like Gentry will be #5.
Lincoln may indeed have a shot at #3.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: beach bum on October 06, 2018, 08:10:32 pm
Quote from: RZback on October 06, 2018, 07:52:36 pm
I don't know if thats the largest margin of defeat for PG but they were sure outmanned in the game last night.  Shiloh seems to have it all together.
As for the Gravette PR game, Gravette really is at a low point.
Looks like Gentry will be #5.
Lincoln may indeed have a shot at #3.

If I had to take a guess the last time PG lost like that was to the Frazier/Shiloh All Star group when everyone they played lost that bad to them.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: RZback on October 06, 2018, 08:16:34 pm
Quote from: beach bum on October 06, 2018, 08:10:32 pm
If I had to take a guess the last time PG lost like that was to the Frazier/Shiloh All Star group when everyone they played lost that bad to them.

Lost to Shiloh 49-14 in 2010.  Worst lost I could find.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: beach bum on October 06, 2018, 08:19:55 pm
Quote from: RZback on October 06, 2018, 08:16:34 pm
Lost to Shiloh 49-14 in 2010.  Worst lost I could find.

If Shiloh gets the 1 seed this year by beating Pea Ridge week 10 is Shiloh good enough to get to the semifinals? That portion of the bracket where the 1 seed from the 1-4A seems like it has a lot of competitive games in it, but no favorite. The 2 seed from the 7-4A is in it, but can Shiloh beat them the way they look? Not saying favored but at least have a decent shot at it?
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: RZback on October 06, 2018, 08:41:24 pm
Really hard to gage just how good any team in conference is because the conference is really down.  The non con schedule didn't produce many wins to gauge conference strength by.  Guess that question gets answered when the playoffs get here.