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Re: Carlisle Football
« Reply #50 on: June 13, 2018, 08:43:13 pm »
You gotta take a look around geographically around Carlisle. We are a 2A school that is 25 miles from Little Rock and basically a stepping stone for coaches. You only get long term coaches if they have a family with kids that want to attend the school.  It’s hard to keep coaches. As a school competing with bigger schools, it is hard to compete. In your line of work, do you want more or want to do better?  Probably something not many people consider or think about but it is a struggle

I'm guessing this is directed towards me.  I do agree with you, to a point.  Carlisle will always have a higher-than-normal turnover rate in coaches/teachers/etc., because, you are right, it is a 2A school with limited resources and limited money.  Most people, especially younger people, will move on to bigger, better paying jobs.  My point was that while I understand there will be people resigning every year during this time, it did seem somewhat alarming that 10 people (including your ENTIRE football staff) all resigned in one swoop.  I mean, did any of the assistants even try to remain on or go for the head job?  If not, that is extremely concerning. 

How many people teach/work at Carlisle Schools?  50, if that?  So, if you lose 10 that is 20% of your teachers/staff, gone.  I am simply expressing concern for what I am seeing and hearing regarding the last several years.  I know you stated you had a child that recently graduated, that you felt was benefited by attending Carlisle Schools.  That is awesome and I am happy for you as well as your child.  But, it still doesn't discount some of the red flags that have gone up in the last few years.  Like I said, I hope it all gets straightened out and the Carlisle School District continues to thrive.  If we ever lose our schools, you can kiss the community/city goodbye. 

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Re: Carlisle Football
« Reply #51 on: June 13, 2018, 08:52:06 pm »
I agree and a 1+ for you and so well stated from someone who recently went thru what student "athletes" go thru. Sadly it changes from year to year (not the coaches fault) as result of perhaps big personality differences in the following class, less parent control, more egos, less RESPECT as you mentioned and too much swagger for sure. The worst thing is for an athlete to THINK he is SO good and blame the coach for a loss rather than a lack of leadership and aggressive play on the part of the team, especially Seniors without leadership. It is more prevalent in small 2A and 3A classifications since the lack of numbers out for football puts the coach in a big "bind" to be too nice sometimes and having to please parents if the team loses. "Oh it's not my son's fault, etc etc)"  Bull... The world is constantly changing, and as a result more immature, electronic-cell phone minded students lose track of integrity, trust and RESPECT for coaches, administration and THEIR own parents. Nuff said but the 1+ for this poster is SO deserved and comes from a YOUNG person who should know the climate in today's small schools... TU for reading.  :-\

While it is easy to put a lot of the blame on the kids of today...I put just as much blame, if not more, on the parents who enable it.  Frank Martin, the head men's basketball coach at South Carolina, hit on this point in one of his pressers a year or so ago.  It's worth the watch. 

Parents, instead of supporting the coach and standing behind their decision, they want to second guess, complain, moan, tell little Johnny or Jenny that the coach doesn't know what they are doing, don't listen to them, etc.  Well, if mommy and daddy are feeding their children this, what do you expect the kid to do?  Instead, they should be saying, "Look if you aren't starting, then work harder," "You skip school/practice, you aren't playing," "You disrespect your coach or teammates, you are doing extra conditioning", etc.       

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Re: Carlisle Football
« Reply #52 on: June 13, 2018, 09:35:21 pm »
I'm guessing this is directed towards me.  I do agree with you, to a point.  Carlisle will always have a higher-than-normal turnover rate in coaches/teachers/etc., because, you are right, it is a 2A school with limited resources and limited money.  Most people, especially younger people, will move on to bigger, better paying jobs.  My point was that while I understand there will be people resigning every year during this time, it did seem somewhat alarming that 10 people (including your ENTIRE football staff) all resigned in one swoop.  I mean, did any of the assistants even try to remain on or go for the head job?  If not, that is extremely concerning. 

How many people teach/work at Carlisle Schools?  50, if that?  So, if you lose 10 that is 20% of your teachers/staff, gone.  I am simply expressing concern for what I am seeing and hearing regarding the last several years.  I know you stated you had a child that recently graduated, that you felt was benefited by attending Carlisle Schools.  That is awesome and I am happy for you as well as your child.  But, it still doesn't discount some of the red flags that have gone up in the last few years.  Like I said, I hope it all gets straightened out and the Carlisle School District continues to thrive.  If we ever lose our schools, you can kiss the community/city goodbye.
My Post was not directed at you or anyone in particular. I am tired of everyone putting down our school and administration over personal issues. There will always be negative comments and opinions in every school, no matter the case. My opinion is just that... an opinion. The same as everyone else that has one. Mine just happens to be positive. Uhiren retired, Roberson went back home to Bald Knob, King was hardly ever at school and the other two “football” coaches had performance issues. Sorry... that’s the truth. So,what it boils down to is, do your job. Do what you were hired to do.

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Re: Carlisle Football
« Reply #53 on: June 13, 2018, 11:16:25 pm »
Carlisle isn't going to lose it's school. It's going to be okay. I have the utmost confidence in Coach Greene, Mr. Horn, Mrs. Horn and Coach Stewart that they will keep this ship going in the right direction.

The football program will be in good shape. Does anyone remember 2006 when Coach Steward was fired and Coach Jones retired and we had only one football coach left in Coach Pogue. Carlisle hired Scott Waymire and the rest was history. Granted, Coach Waymire isn't coming back...but Coach Greene will get the Bison a good one.

I'm a proud alumnus of Carlisle High School. And I'm proud of the fact that we've got good people working there in an effort to ensure the students, not just the athletes, are getting the best possible education.

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Re: Carlisle Football
« Reply #54 on: June 14, 2018, 05:48:51 am »
Very well said.... People that share your view are in the majority in Carlisle. With attitudes like this, we will be successful.

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Re: Carlisle Football
« Reply #55 on: June 14, 2018, 04:37:01 pm »
It got quiet real quick in here

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Re: Carlisle Football
« Reply #56 on: June 14, 2018, 06:15:13 pm »
It got quiet real quick in here

All threads run their course and this one appears to have died a natural death. It will probably fire back up when the new coach is named.

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Re: Carlisle Football
« Reply #57 on: June 15, 2018, 01:33:05 am »
The worst part about being in a 2A school is that it is used for a stepping stone. It's a place to get experience, especially in a coaches point of view. You do find loyal coaches who stick around for a long time (Coach Buffalo, Coach Waymire, and Coach Roberson). Those are just three that I can think of off the top of my head. Waymire and Roberson stuck around, but Waymire wanted to be closer to family and I respect that. It is natural for a person to work their way up. Starting at smaller schools and making their way to bigger schools to do bigger and better things for the community. Carlisle loses several teachers every year. This year, a lot of those teachers were coaches. It is nothing that the Carlisle community isn't used to and I am 200% sure that we will bounce back from it.

In addition, it isn't just a problem in Carlisle. Little Rock School district is having to fill 30 elementary positions.
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Re: Carlisle Football
« Reply #58 on: June 15, 2018, 06:21:42 am »
This morning's paper reports they have hired a new baseball coach from Bauxite that will assist with football.

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Re: Carlisle Football
« Reply #59 on: June 15, 2018, 08:01:21 am »
I wonder if that hire is pending on the outcome of the state police investigation for the bus incident?

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Re: Carlisle Football
« Reply #60 on: June 15, 2018, 09:46:43 am »
This morning's paper reports they have hired a new baseball coach from Bauxite that will assist with football.

Yes. Coach Steven Tew. Greene knows him and said he is a fantastic baseball coach.

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Re: Carlisle Football
« Reply #61 on: June 15, 2018, 12:48:25 pm »
Yes. Coach Steven Tew. Greene knows him and said he is a fantastic baseball coach.


That's great.    Wonder if he'll use a pinch hitter on the Bison football team?

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Re: Carlisle Football
« Reply #62 on: June 15, 2018, 03:28:03 pm »
I wonder if that hire is pending on the outcome of the state police investigation for the bus incident?


Maybe the locals know.  Bilbo or LC Sports?

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Re: Carlisle Football
« Reply #63 on: June 15, 2018, 03:42:07 pm »
I wonder if that hire is pending on the outcome of the state police investigation for the bus incident?

Per guys at Bauxite, Tew was vetted extensively over this job.  There will be no issue.

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Re: Carlisle Football
« Reply #64 on: June 15, 2018, 06:50:47 pm »
Tew and and the other Coach were all cleared of any wrong doing

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Re: Carlisle Football
« Reply #65 on: June 19, 2018, 02:11:13 pm »
Looks like the process is chugging along.  Anyone know who has interviewed?

Carlisle’s search for a head football coach will likely continue into next week.

B.J. Greene, Carlisle’s high school principal and athletic director, said Sunday he had interviewed five candidates with two more to go this week.

“I was really hoping that things would be taken care of by now, but we’re not where I want to be,” he said. “We’re trying to figure out our best options. Realistically, I’m hoping to have it done next week, and if I can make that process move faster, probably this week.”

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Re: Carlisle Football
« Reply #66 on: June 19, 2018, 02:22:27 pm »
I know of 2 people. I won’t give any names. Coach A has tons of assistant experience with 0 hc experience and is older. Coach B has several years of hc experience and has proven himself more than capable of turning programs around in a short amount of time, he is also a younger coach. The question is which would you rather have out of those 2? If it were me, I would be banking on Coach B!!!

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Re: Carlisle Football
« Reply #67 on: June 19, 2018, 02:55:05 pm »
Greene doing a great job keeping this quite.  He’ll get Carlisle a good one.

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Re: Carlisle Football
« Reply #68 on: June 19, 2018, 06:06:24 pm »
Head coach will be hired tonight at special school board meeting.

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Re: Carlisle Football
« Reply #70 on: June 19, 2018, 08:13:41 pm »
Caleb Shock former asst at Heber Springs.

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Caleb Shock former asst at Heber Springs.

The guy who hired him obviously gives a ringing endorsement.  Guess time will tell if he lives up to it.

I am excited to announce the addition of an incredible head football coach to our staff at CHS. This man is more than just a great football coach; he is a leader of men that always displays impeccable character and work ethic. I would like to announce the hiring of Caleb Shock as head football coach of our tradition rich Bison. Coach Shock comes from a coaching family as his father was a long time Arkansas football coach. Coach Shock was exposed to the game, the grind of building a top notch program and how to treat others at a very early age. He has undoubtedly held on to these virtues and utilizes them in his daily interactions. He is a motivator, a leader that has a never ending contagious energy. Coach Shock knows how to treat kids. He is an outstanding addition to our staff. Coach Shock first worked at Central Arkansas Christian under Tommy Shoemaker as an assistant football coach. From there he moved to Jackson Christian in Tennessee as the defensive coordinator, where they made the playoffs in every year there and culminating in the best finish in the quarterfinals. Most recently, he served as the head junior high coach at Heber Springs, where he won a conference championship. Then was moved up to the Defensive Coordinators position, where he coordinated defenses for one conference championship team, including one quarterfinal team. Coach Shock is a diligent worker that embodies what it means to be a Bison; respectful, hardworking, and tenacious. I am extremely excited for Coach Shock to arrive and begin working with our young men.

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Re: Carlisle Football
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The guy who hired him obviously gives a ringing endorsement.  Guess time will tell if he lives up to it.

I am excited to announce the addition of an incredible head football coach to our staff at CHS. This man is more than just a great football coach; he is a leader of men that always displays impeccable character and work ethic. I would like to announce the hiring of Caleb Shock as head football coach of our tradition rich Bison. Coach Shock comes from a coaching family as his father was a long time Arkansas football coach. Coach Shock was exposed to the game, the grind of building a top notch program and how to treat others at a very early age. He has undoubtedly held on to these virtues and utilizes them in his daily interactions. He is a motivator, a leader that has a never ending contagious energy. Coach Shock knows how to treat kids. He is an outstanding addition to our staff. Coach Shock first worked at Central Arkansas Christian under Tommy Shoemaker as an assistant football coach. From there he moved to Jackson Christian in Tennessee as the defensive coordinator, where they made the playoffs in every year there and culminating in the best finish in the quarterfinals. Most recently, he served as the head junior high coach at Heber Springs, where he won a conference championship. Then was moved up to the Defensive Coordinators position, where he coordinated defenses for one conference championship team, including one quarterfinal team. Coach Shock is a diligent worker that embodies what it means to be a Bison; respectful, hardworking, and tenacious. I am extremely excited for Coach Shock to arrive and begin working with our young men.

BJ Greene
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Indeed.  Wish him all the best.  Just hope he’s not too hard on the players. 

 

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