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Title: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: JACK D BACK 27 on December 10, 2006, 12:26:58 am
HE WAS ACROSS BY AT LEAST TWO FEET AND HE DOVE FROM THE ONE HIS KNEE WAS NEVER CLOSE TO BEING DOWN.  ALSO THE TOUCHDOWN THAT GOT CALLED BACK WHICH THEN IT WOULD OF NEVER WENT TO OVERTIME, THE COACHES ARE STILL TRYING TO SEE WHICH LINEMAN WAS DOWNFIELD.  THE WARREN LINEMAN ARE TAUGHT WHEN BALL IS THROWN GO TO IT ALL FIVE LINEMAN WERE AT THE LINE WHEN THE BALL WAS THROWN.
Title: Re: JUST GOT THROUGH WATCHING FILM AT WARREN FIELDHOUSE
Post by: "SHOWKILLER" on December 10, 2006, 12:28:56 am
If JACK D BACK SAYS IT THEN IT THE TRUTH!!!

SOMEBODY MUST HAVE GOTTEN PAID!
Title: Re: JUST GOT THROUGH WATCHING FILM AT WARREN FIELDHOUSE
Post by: seark66 on December 10, 2006, 12:30:06 am
Quote from: JACK D BACK 27 on December 10, 2006, 12:26:58 am
HE WAS ACROSS BY AT LEAST TWO FEET AND HE DOVE FROM THE ONE HIS KNEE WAS NEVER CLOSE TO BEING DOWN.  ALSO THE TOUCHDOWN THAT GOT CALLED BACK WHICH THEN IT WOULD OF NEVER WENT TO OVERTIME, THE COACHES ARE STILL TRYING TO SEE WHICH LINEMAN WAS DOWNFIELD.  THE WARREN LINEMAN ARE TAUGHT WHEN BALL IS THROWN GO TO IT ALL FIVE LINEMAN WERE AT THE LINE WHEN THE BALL WAS THROWN.

There didn't seem to be any lineman down field on either of the two "ineligible downfield" calls.
Title: Re: JUST GOT THROUGH WATCHING FILM AT WARREN FIELDHOUSE
Post by: cowboy391 on December 10, 2006, 12:36:55 am
i love it you didn't win so now you're looking for excuses... someone stole it from us...
why is it no one can ever just say we lost ...it always has to be someone else's fault.
Title: Re: JUST GOT THROUGH WATCHING FILM AT WARREN FIELDHOUSE
Post by: seark66 on December 10, 2006, 12:40:04 am
Quote from: cowboy391 on December 10, 2006, 12:36:55 am
i love it you didn't win so now you're looking for excuses... someone stole it from us...
why is it no one can ever just say we lost ...it always has to be someone else's fault.

Do you wish to continue to argue the circumstances regarding this game?

No excuses are being made. There is no need for excuses. That call was blown and several others were 'iffy', including the phantom "ineligible downfield" that negated a Warren touchdown.
Title: Re: JUST GOT THROUGH WATCHING FILM AT WARREN FIELDHOUSE
Post by: LJ06 on December 10, 2006, 12:40:35 am
If you'd seen the replay you'd know that we have a legit arguement
Title: Re: JUST GOT THROUGH WATCHING FILM AT WARREN FIELDHOUSE
Post by: beaufort on December 10, 2006, 12:41:27 am
Quote from: cowboy391 on December 10, 2006, 12:36:55 am
i love it you didn't win so now you're looking for excuses... someone stole it from us...
why is it no one can ever just say we lost ...it always has to be someone else's fault.

We didn't get beat by Nashville, We got beat by the REFS.
Title: Re: JUST GOT THROUGH WATCHING FILM AT WARREN FIELDHOUSE
Post by: NewCat on December 10, 2006, 12:47:58 am
Quote from: Lumberjack06 on December 10, 2006, 12:40:35 am
If you'd seen the replay you'd know that we have a legit arguement

Don't get him started.  He won't listen to reason.  Next thing you know, he's going to be slapping you and calling you an idiot with less than a first grade education...

Title: Re: JUST GOT THROUGH WATCHING FILM AT WARREN FIELDHOUSE
Post by: LJ06 on December 10, 2006, 12:50:22 am
Yeah your right
Title: Re: JUST GOT THROUGH WATCHING FILM AT WARREN FIELDHOUSE
Post by: NewCat on December 10, 2006, 12:53:04 am
I'm really sorry it happened to the Jacks.  It was a raw deal.

Title: Re: JUST GOT THROUGH WATCHING FILM AT WARREN FIELDHOUSE
Post by: LJ06 on December 10, 2006, 12:56:16 am
Yeah I am too.  I was a Senior last year for the Jacks and I would have much rather have lost the way we did to Shiloh then how they did tonight to Nashville.  If I was still playing I would be so ticked right now, but there is nothing that can be done about it
Title: Re: JUST GOT THROUGH WATCHING FILM AT WARREN FIELDHOUSE
Post by: RazorWall on December 10, 2006, 12:56:27 am
I was at the game going for Nashville, but on the replay it cleary showed the quarterback break the plain and score. Something will HAVE to be done. Warren SHOULD be AAAA State Champs.
Title: Re: JUST GOT THROUGH WATCHING FILM AT WARREN FIELDHOUSE
Post by: LJ06 on December 10, 2006, 12:57:29 am
I heard that the refs were fired after the game...is this true?
Title: Re: JUST GOT THROUGH WATCHING FILM AT WARREN FIELDHOUSE
Post by: panther_pride on December 10, 2006, 12:58:40 am
Quote from: The Judge on December 10, 2006, 12:56:27 am
I was at the game going for Nashville, but on the replay it cleary showed the quarterback break the plain and score. Something will HAVE to be done. Warren SHOULD be AAAA State Champs.
But they're not, GET OVER IT.
Title: Re: JUST GOT THROUGH WATCHING FILM AT WARREN FIELDHOUSE
Post by: seark66 on December 10, 2006, 01:02:58 am
Quote from: pantherfan56 on December 10, 2006, 12:58:40 amBut they're not, GET OVER IT.

That's right, they aren't. That crew of officials should be proud to carry that trophy with them.
Title: Re: JUST GOT THROUGH WATCHING FILM AT WARREN FIELDHOUSE
Post by: panther_pride on December 10, 2006, 01:13:42 am
Quote from: seark66 on December 10, 2006, 01:02:58 am
Quote from: pantherfan56 on December 10, 2006, 12:58:40 amBut they're not, GET OVER IT.

That's right, they aren't. That crew of officials should be proud to carry that trophy with them.
Actually... I'm pretty sure Nashville got the trophy...
Title: Re: JUST GOT THROUGH WATCHING FILM AT WARREN FIELDHOUSE
Post by: A JETS MI MONK on December 10, 2006, 01:14:51 am
Quote from: pantherfan56 on December 10, 2006, 01:13:42 am
Quote from: seark66 on December 10, 2006, 01:02:58 am
Quote from: pantherfan56 on December 10, 2006, 12:58:40 amBut they're not, GET OVER IT.

That's right, they aren't. That crew of officials should be proud to carry that trophy with them.
Actually... I'm pretty sure Nashville got the trophy...

That's true.  Nashville is just letting the refs take pictures with it at the after game party.  Get your facts straight people.
Title: Re: JUST GOT THROUGH WATCHING FILM AT WARREN FIELDHOUSE
Post by: NewCat on December 10, 2006, 01:15:48 am
Quote from: The Judge on December 10, 2006, 12:56:27 am
I was at the game going for Nashville, but on the replay it cleary showed the quarterback break the plain and score. Something will HAVE to be done. Warren SHOULD be AAAA State Champs.

Thank you for that post.  Apparently, according to some, if you dissent the ref's bad call at the end of the game, you must be crying because you're a Warren fan...

Title: Re: JUST GOT THROUGH WATCHING FILM AT WARREN FIELDHOUSE
Post by: seark66 on December 10, 2006, 01:16:07 am
Quote from: Jake Timmons:  Bounty Hunter on December 10, 2006, 01:14:51 am
That's true.  Nashville is just letting the refs take pictures with it at the after game party.  Get your facts straight people.

Dang. That explains why the officials looked like track stars getting off the field. They didn't want to be late to the party.

:)
Title: Re: JUST GOT THROUGH WATCHING FILM AT WARREN FIELDHOUSE
Post by: A JETS MI MONK on December 10, 2006, 01:17:25 am
Quote from: seark66 on December 10, 2006, 01:16:07 am
Quote from: Jake Timmons:  Bounty Hunter on December 10, 2006, 01:14:51 am
That's true.  Nashville is just letting the refs take pictures with it at the after game party.  Get your facts straight people.

Dang. That explains why the officials looked like track stars getting off the field. They didn't want to be late to the party.

:)

Someone has to bring the alcohol and judging by their calls, the refs probably had a lot on them.
Title: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: scrapdawgof06 on December 10, 2006, 01:20:18 am
To all the whiners saying they got cheated... I was there... only reason we (Nashville) fell silent on that 2 pt. conversion was to see the replay as to where it was good or not, because going by the way it looked... it was too close to call... with my mom standing right beside me... we looked up at the jumbotron right as the Warren player supposedly crossed the plain, it was a 1/2 yard short with the players knee touching the turf before he crossed the plain.. on another note... the ball popped out and Nashville recovered it...

but to the loyal fans of both Nashville and Warren, my god it was loud at WMS... and im freaking hoarse... Congrats to my Scrappers but also, congrats on Warren for giving us our first real test of the season...   may we meet again

Scrapdawg

Go Scrappers!
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Always Friday on December 10, 2006, 01:25:30 am
I agree Nashville...4A State Champions Enough Said!!

Go Scraps  ;)
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: FF Secretary of Defense Flap_Jack48 on December 10, 2006, 01:26:56 am
Congrats--in everyone's book that's not a Scrapper fan, it'll always read either:

Warren 2006 AAAA State Champions

or

Nashville 2006 AAAA State Champions*

--Kyle
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: panther_pride on December 10, 2006, 01:27:27 am
Don't forget... Back to back...  :D
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: O.T.C on December 10, 2006, 01:55:24 am
Don't be ignorant kid.....The kid had his hands all the way across the line...All the ball has to do is break the plain...not go all the way across it...just break the plain. And the ground can't cause a fumble.

Bottom line is that Warren won the game. If Nashville people can take pride in a stolen state championship....Go for it.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: dc24 on December 10, 2006, 02:01:03 am
Quote from: scrapdawgof06 on December 10, 2006, 01:20:18 am
To all the whiners saying they got cheated... I was there... only reason we (Nashville) fell silent on that 2 pt. conversion was to see the replay as to where it was good or not, because going by the way it looked... it was too close to call... with my mom standing right beside me... we looked up at the jumbotron right as the Warren player supposedly crossed the plain, it was a 1/2 yard short with the players knee touching the turf before he crossed the plain.. on another note... the ball popped out and Nashville recovered it...

but to the loyal fans of both Nashville and Warren, my god it was loud at WMS... and im freaking hoarse... Congrats to my Scrappers but also, congrats on Warren for giving us our first real test of the season...   may we meet again

Scrapdawg

Go Scrappers!

The ball was broke the plane, pure and simple.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: scrappermom46 on December 10, 2006, 02:05:25 am
OMG like it says................ GET OVER IT!!!!!!!!!!! Stop the crying and figure something out, what are you going to do, whine and cry ok we see, we hear ya let it go. I love my Scrappers but I hate to say this but I am so sorry. I was so mad to see that DJ missed that kick 3 TIMES OMG. But Warren should understand we know who the real winner is okay. I am sorry again. Were the refs fired?
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: softyball on December 10, 2006, 02:07:21 am
Quote from: dc24 on December 10, 2006, 02:01:03 am
Quote from: scrapdawgof06 on December 10, 2006, 01:20:18 am
To all the whiners saying they got cheated... I was there... only reason we (Nashville) fell silent on that 2 pt. conversion was to see the replay as to where it was good or not, because going by the way it looked... it was too close to call... with my mom standing right beside me... we looked up at the jumbotron right as the Warren player supposedly crossed the plain, it was a 1/2 yard short with the players knee touching the turf before he crossed the plain.. on another note... the ball popped out and Nashville recovered it...

but to the loyal fans of both Nashville and Warren, my god it was loud at WMS... and im freaking hoarse... Congrats to my Scrappers but also, congrats on Warren for giving us our first real test of the season...   may we meet again

Scrapdawg

Go Scrappers!

The ball was broke the plane, pure and simple.

I have always wondered exactly where is the plane, is it the beginning of the stripe, middle, or back,  those things are several inches wide.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Sassy Scrapper on December 10, 2006, 02:07:48 am
Nashville didn't cheat Warren out of anything. The refs were the ones on the field making the calls. The refs called it no good. We are playing high school foot ball here folks not the NFL.  Quit whining, face the fact!

Warren lost, played hard and have nothing to hold there heads down for.

Now on the other hand The Scrappers have no reason to be ashame of anything either. The didn't make any of the calls on the field tonight. the refs did. There were several calls that should have been called against Warren that were not. But I don't see any of you posting or protesting about that.

Get over it. SCRAPPERS 4AAAA BACK 2 BACK STATE CHAMPS.

Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: dc24 on December 10, 2006, 02:09:37 am
Quote from: Sassy Scrapper on December 10, 2006, 02:07:48 am
Nashville didn't cheat Warren out of anything. The refs were the ones on the field making the calls. The refs called it no good. We are playing high school foot ball here folks not the NFL.  Quit whining, face the fact!

Warren lost, played hard and have nothing to hold there heads down for.

Now on the other hand The Scrappers have no reason to be ashame of anything either. The didn't make any of the calls on the field tonight. the refs did. There were several calls that should have been called against Warren that were not. But I don't see any of you posting or protesting about that.

Get over it. SCRAPPERS 4AAAA BACK 2 BACK STATE CHAMPS.



No they're weren't several calls that should have went against Warren.  Heck, they all did.  I do agree with you though, that Nashville didn't call the game.  Everyone should be mad at the refs and not Nashville.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Super Scrapper on December 10, 2006, 02:24:08 am
Well the replay showed the ball across the line but it didn't show if he was down or not before that.  The refs made the call and no one can change it.   The game should not have come down to that anyway, but it did.  Too bad for the hard feelings, but not a single ref thought he scored.  They were all much closer than any fan.....SS

Go Scrappers
  ;D
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: dc24 on December 10, 2006, 02:26:20 am
Quote from: Super Scrapper on December 10, 2006, 02:24:08 am
Well the replay showed the ball across the line but it didn't show if he was down or not before that.  The refs made the call and no one can change it.   The game should not have come down to that anyway, but it did.  Too bad for the hard feelings, but not a single ref thought he scored.  They were all much closer than any fan.....SS

Go Scrappers

A ref thought he didn't score, the back judge.  The two refs standing right on the goal line didn't make the call and you could tell that they didn't know whether he had scored or not.  Neither one of them wanted to make a call.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: C_A_Morris on December 10, 2006, 02:31:03 am
Quote from: Fred Garvin M.P. on December 10, 2006, 02:07:21 amI have always wondered exactly where is the plane, is it the beginning of the stripe, middle, or back,  those things are several inches wide.

All play in football is directed in towards the field.  The plane of the goal extends vertically perpendicular from the beginning of the line.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: softyball on December 10, 2006, 02:38:40 am
Quote from: C_A_Morris on December 10, 2006, 02:31:03 am
Quote from: Fred Garvin M.P. on December 10, 2006, 02:07:21 amI have always wondered exactly where is the plane, is it the beginning of the stripe, middle, or back,  those things are several inches wide.

All play in football is directed in towards the field.  The plane of the goal extends vertically perpendicular from the beginning of the line.

Thanks for bringing me up to speed.   
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: scrapdawgof06 on December 10, 2006, 02:49:38 am
boy i tell ya... i HAD respect for alot of the posters till tonight... the freaking refs are right there... how are you gonna dispute what THEY saw and called not 3-5 yds. in front of them... in a well lit stadium, on what was the game deciding play... I think I would be paying attention to any kind of "break of plane" play that "robbed" Warren.. I havent even been on here two hours and already im sick of the whining...

unfortunately for the ones whining... just because you whine about it, doesnt reverse it

Scrapdawg

Go Scrappers!

Scrappers 2006 4A State Champs!
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Super Scrapper on December 10, 2006, 02:53:16 am
Quote from: dc24 on December 10, 2006, 02:26:20 am
Quote from: Super Scrapper on December 10, 2006, 02:24:08 am
Well the replay showed the ball across the line but it didn't show if he was down or not before that.  The refs made the call and no one can change it.   The game should not have come down to that anyway, but it did.  Too bad for the hard feelings, but not a single ref thought he scored.  They were all much closer than any fan.....SS

Go Scrappers

A ref thought he didn't score, the back judge.  The two refs standing right on the goal line didn't make the call and you could tell that they didn't know whether he had scored or not.  Neither one of them wanted to make a call.

That can't call what they can't see.  They have a job to do and  they need to do it right.  If they had thought he scored, it was their job to call it that way....That is what they are there for.  You are basically arguing over a called strike three.  No point to it now.  The game is over.....SS

Go Scrappers
   ;)
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: FF Secretary of Defense Flap_Jack48 on December 10, 2006, 02:56:36 am
Who's to say it won't be reversed.  Enough people talk, someone will listen. 

The refs blew that call, and now, we're going to send it to their boss's and see if that problem can't be corrected.  If Warren had lost fair and square, I would concede to Nashville--but Warren won the football game on a converted 2-point try, the final should be 22-21, and Warren should be the 2006 4A state champions.

I can promise you one thing--this is not a matter that's just going to be brushed under the rug.  The ripple effects of what happened tonight will be around Arkansas high school football for a l-o-n-g time.

--Kyle
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: dc24 on December 10, 2006, 02:59:13 am
Quote from: Super Scrapper on December 10, 2006, 02:53:16 am
Quote from: dc24 on December 10, 2006, 02:26:20 am
Quote from: Super Scrapper on December 10, 2006, 02:24:08 am
Well the replay showed the ball across the line but it didn't show if he was down or not before that.  The refs made the call and no one can change it.   The game should not have come down to that anyway, but it did.  Too bad for the hard feelings, but not a single ref thought he scored.  They were all much closer than any fan.....SS

Go Scrappers

A ref thought he didn't score, the back judge.  The two refs standing right on the goal line didn't make the call and you could tell that they didn't know whether he had scored or not.  Neither one of them wanted to make a call.

That can't call what they can't see.  They have a job to do and  they need to do it right.  If they had thought he scored, it was their job to call it that way....That is what they are there for.  You are basically arguing over a called strike three.  No point to it now.  The game is over.....SS

Go Scrappers
   ;)

But they didn't make a call period.  They didn't point to the ground to say he was down, nor signal that the 2 point attempt was good.  The back judge, which there was no way he could tell for sure, made the call.  That isn't right.  Its also fairly obvious that it was the wrong call.  Most people agree on that.  It was a great game regardless and it sucks that it came down to a blown call to decide the game.  Neither team deserved that.  These refs must have got their training from last year's Super Bowl crew.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: brokensilence on December 10, 2006, 03:00:23 am
Quote from: FF Secretary of Defense Flap_Jack48 on December 10, 2006, 02:56:36 am
Who's to say it won't be reversed.  Enough people talk, someone will listen. 

The refs blew that call, and now, we're going to send it to their boss's and see if that problem can't be corrected.  If Warren had lost fair and square, I would concede to Nashville--but Warren won the football game on a converted 2-point try, the final should be 22-21, and Warren should be the 2006 4A state champions.

I can promise you one thing--this is not a matter that's just going to be brushed under the rug.  The ripple effects of what happened tonight will be around Arkansas high school football for a l-o-n-g time.

--Kyle

Amen!
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: scrapdawgof06 on December 10, 2006, 03:10:39 am
Ok, enough... I'm through arguing, this was a HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL game, not something that will breech National Security...

These boys played their freaking hearts and souls out tonight... gave us a heckuva game... and it all came down to a really disappointing call...

I'm really ashamed of all of you... and I'm ashamed of myself... for acting like a heehaw about it...

Just leave it be guys and gals... not worth fussing over... whats a lil more gold in the case for either team?

Scrapdawg

Go Scrappers!
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: SingleWingGuru on December 10, 2006, 03:11:49 am
Quote from: dc24 on December 10, 2006, 02:59:13 am
But they didn't make a call period.  They didn't point to the ground to say he was down, nor signal that the 2 point attempt was good.  The back judge, which there was no way he could tell for sure, made the call.  That isn't right.  Its also fairly obvious that it was the wrong call.  Most people agree on that.  It was a great game regardless and it sucks that it came down to a blown call to decide the game.  Neither team deserved that.  These refs must have got their training from last year's Super Bowl crew.

Aren't you the same guy that whined and said the refs gave the super bowl to Pittsburgh last year too?
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: softyball on December 10, 2006, 03:15:18 am
Quote from: FF Secretary of Defense Flap_Jack48 on December 10, 2006, 02:56:36 am
Who's to say it won't be reversed.  Enough people talk, someone will listen. 

I can promise you one thing--this is not a matter that's just going to be brushed under the rug.  The ripple effects of what happened tonight will be around Arkansas high school football for a l-o-n-g time.

--Kyle

Shows what you really know.  About the only thing I can see "rippling" out of this whole deal, is that the AAA might decide that replays have no business being in high school football in the first place, and therefore would no longer be shown during any Arkansas high school game(championship or otherwise).   
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: dc24 on December 10, 2006, 03:16:01 am
Quote from: SingleWingGuru on December 10, 2006, 03:11:49 am
Quote from: dc24 on December 10, 2006, 02:59:13 am
But they didn't make a call period.  They didn't point to the ground to say he was down, nor signal that the 2 point attempt was good.  The back judge, which there was no way he could tell for sure, made the call.  That isn't right.  Its also fairly obvious that it was the wrong call.  Most people agree on that.  It was a great game regardless and it sucks that it came down to a blown call to decide the game.  Neither team deserved that.  These refs must have got their training from last year's Super Bowl crew.

Aren't you the same guy that whined and said the refs gave the super bowl to Pittsburgh last year too?

I never said the refs gave the game to Pittsburgh, but to say that wasn't a well-officiated ballgame is asinine.  There were several questionable calls that went against the Seahawks.  Regardless, I still think Pittsburgh would've won the game.  The Seahawks didn't play their best on a night that they needed to, needless to say it was just a little joke, and doesn't have anything to do with this game, so don't get your panties in a wad.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: dc24 on December 10, 2006, 03:17:57 am
Quote from: Fred Garvin M.P. on December 10, 2006, 03:15:18 am
Quote from: FF Secretary of Defense Flap_Jack48 on December 10, 2006, 02:56:36 am
Who's to say it won't be reversed.  Enough people talk, someone will listen. 

I can promise you one thing--this is not a matter that's just going to be brushed under the rug.  The ripple effects of what happened tonight will be around Arkansas high school football for a l-o-n-g time.

--Kyle

Shows what you really know.  About the only thing I can see "rippling" out of this whole deal, is that the AAA might decide that replays have no business being in high school football in the first place, and therefore would no longer be shown during any Arkansas high school game(championship or otherwise).  

I think if the technology is available in a game of that magnitude that replay should be allowed.  Hopefully that will be what comes out of this.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: scrapdawgof06 on December 10, 2006, 03:21:37 am
Quote from: dc24 on December 10, 2006, 03:17:57 am
Quote from: Fred Garvin M.P. on December 10, 2006, 03:15:18 am
Quote from: FF Secretary of Defense Flap_Jack48 on December 10, 2006, 02:56:36 am
Who's to say it won't be reversed.  Enough people talk, someone will listen. 

I can promise you one thing--this is not a matter that's just going to be brushed under the rug.  The ripple effects of what happened tonight will be around Arkansas high school football for a l-o-n-g time.

--Kyle

Shows what you really know.  About the only thing I can see "rippling" out of this whole deal, is that the AAA might decide that replays have no business being in high school football in the first place, and therefore would no longer be shown during any Arkansas high school game(championship or otherwise).  

I think if the technology is available in a game of that magnitude that replay should be allowed.  Hopefully that will be what comes out of this.

enough already, my lord... had Warren won... we would be congratulating them and not trying to reverse anything... sheesh... as of now... I'm through with the bull... we'll see what the AAA has to say

P.S.   Anyone threatens some friends of mine again... ill take it personally... its a freaking football game... I'm sure they at least read these things

Scrapdawg

Go Scrappers!
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Super Scrapper on December 10, 2006, 03:24:59 am
It not only won't be around a long time, it won't last period.  The game is over and the call was made.  That is all there is to it.  No one will change it.  You saw the ball and so did I on the replay.  Did you see the knees?  No, and neither did I.... That is what really counts.  Evidently the ref did.  It's over.  You might as well get over it too....SS

Go Scrappers
   ;)
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: softyball on December 10, 2006, 03:27:42 am
Quote from: dc24 on December 10, 2006, 03:17:57 am
Quote from: Fred Garvin M.P. on December 10, 2006, 03:15:18 am
Quote from: FF Secretary of Defense Flap_Jack48 on December 10, 2006, 02:56:36 am
Who's to say it won't be reversed.  Enough people talk, someone will listen. 

I can promise you one thing--this is not a matter that's just going to be brushed under the rug.  The ripple effects of what happened tonight will be around Arkansas high school football for a l-o-n-g time.

--Kyle

Shows what you really know.  About the only thing I can see "rippling" out of this whole deal, is that the AAA might decide that replays have no business being in high school football in the first place, and therefore would no longer be shown during any Arkansas high school game(championship or otherwise).   

I think if the technology is available in a game of that magnitude that replay should be allowed.  Hopefully that will be what comes out of this.

Even if they did decide to start utilizing instant replay for making on the field calls(which will NOT happen),  how in the world, do you see it affecting tonights game?
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: dc24 on December 10, 2006, 03:33:34 am
Quote from: Fred Garvin M.P. on December 10, 2006, 03:27:42 am
Quote from: dc24 on December 10, 2006, 03:17:57 am
Quote from: Fred Garvin M.P. on December 10, 2006, 03:15:18 am
Quote from: FF Secretary of Defense Flap_Jack48 on December 10, 2006, 02:56:36 am
Who's to say it won't be reversed.  Enough people talk, someone will listen. 

I can promise you one thing--this is not a matter that's just going to be brushed under the rug.  The ripple effects of what happened tonight will be around Arkansas high school football for a l-o-n-g time.

--Kyle

Shows what you really know.  About the only thing I can see "rippling" out of this whole deal, is that the AAA might decide that replays have no business being in high school football in the first place, and therefore would no longer be shown during any Arkansas high school game(championship or otherwise).  

I think if the technology is available in a game of that magnitude that replay should be allowed.  Hopefully that will be what comes out of this.

Even if they did decide to start utilizing instant replay for making on the field calls(which will NOT happen),  how in the world, do you really see it affecting tonights game?

Uh...I don't know, there happens to be some kind of controversial 2-point conversion call that decided the game.  I mean, it affected the game a little bit.  Where the heck have you been?  What's the only call that about 5 threads have been started about?  Replay would have either confirmed the call on the field or been overturn.  We really needed it tonight.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: SingleWingGuru on December 10, 2006, 03:34:15 am
Quote from: dc24 on December 10, 2006, 03:16:01 am
The Seahawks didn't play their best on a night that they needed to, needless to say it was just a little joke, and doesn't have anything to do with this game, so don't get your panties in a wad.

My panties aren't in a wad.  I was just noticing a trend.



(still not believing in conspiracy theories... blown calls happen, but no one conspired to do anything)
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: dc24 on December 10, 2006, 03:42:05 am
Quote from: SingleWingGuru on December 10, 2006, 03:34:15 am
Quote from: dc24 on December 10, 2006, 03:16:01 am
The Seahawks didn't play their best on a night that they needed to, needless to say it was just a little joke, and doesn't have anything to do with this game, so don't get your panties in a wad.

My panties aren't in a wad.  I was just noticing a trend.



(still not believing in conspiracy theories... blown calls happen, but no one conspired to do anything)

Oh I totally agree, I don't think its Nashville's fault that there was a blown call, nor do I blame the Steelers in the Super Bowl.  Referees make mistakes, but its hard to swallow in a game of this magnitude or the SB.  I'm shocked though that the Nashville fans won't acknowledge the call.  Like someone said in another thread, you could hear a pin drop when they showed the replay.  Nashville stopped cheering and everyone in that stadium knew who had really won the game.  Nevertheless, you don't give the trophy to Warren, you take it home and think to yourselves, "glad that wasn't us."
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: softyball on December 10, 2006, 03:42:32 am
Quote from: dc24 on December 10, 2006, 03:33:34 am
Quote from: Fred Garvin M.P. on December 10, 2006, 03:27:42 am
Quote from: dc24 on December 10, 2006, 03:17:57 am
Quote from: Fred Garvin M.P. on December 10, 2006, 03:15:18 am
Quote from: FF Secretary of Defense Flap_Jack48 on December 10, 2006, 02:56:36 am
Who's to say it won't be reversed.  Enough people talk, someone will listen. 

I can promise you one thing--this is not a matter that's just going to be brushed under the rug.  The ripple effects of what happened tonight will be around Arkansas high school football for a l-o-n-g time.

--Kyle

Shows what you really know.  About the only thing I can see "rippling" out of this whole deal, is that the AAA might decide that replays have no business being in high school football in the first place, and therefore would no longer be shown during any Arkansas high school game(championship or otherwise).   

I think if the technology is available in a game of that magnitude that replay should be allowed.  Hopefully that will be what comes out of this.

Even if they did decide to start utilizing instant replay for making on the field calls(which will NOT happen),  how in the world, do you really see it affecting tonights game?

Uh...I don't know, there happens to be some kind of controversial 2-point conversion call that decided the game.  I mean, it affected the game a little bit.  Where the heck have you been?  What's the only call that about 5 threads have been started about?  Replay would have either confirmed the call on the field or been overturn.  We really needed it tonight.

So,.........................when is Warren going to hand over that Championship trophy to Booneville.  I have heard quite a few people talking about how Booneville got "screwed" in that one.  All they would need is a good video,  right?  Or has the statute of limitations ran out on that game? 
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: dc24 on December 10, 2006, 03:45:46 am
Quote from: Fred Garvin M.P. on December 10, 2006, 03:42:32 am
Quote from: dc24 on December 10, 2006, 03:33:34 am
Quote from: Fred Garvin M.P. on December 10, 2006, 03:27:42 am
Quote from: dc24 on December 10, 2006, 03:17:57 am
Quote from: Fred Garvin M.P. on December 10, 2006, 03:15:18 am
Quote from: FF Secretary of Defense Flap_Jack48 on December 10, 2006, 02:56:36 am
Who's to say it won't be reversed.  Enough people talk, someone will listen. 

I can promise you one thing--this is not a matter that's just going to be brushed under the rug.  The ripple effects of what happened tonight will be around Arkansas high school football for a l-o-n-g time.

--Kyle

Shows what you really know.  About the only thing I can see "rippling" out of this whole deal, is that the AAA might decide that replays have no business being in high school football in the first place, and therefore would no longer be shown during any Arkansas high school game(championship or otherwise).  

I think if the technology is available in a game of that magnitude that replay should be allowed.  Hopefully that will be what comes out of this.

Even if they did decide to start utilizing instant replay for making on the field calls(which will NOT happen),  how in the world, do you really see it affecting tonights game?

Uh...I don't know, there happens to be some kind of controversial 2-point conversion call that decided the game.  I mean, it affected the game a little bit.  Where the heck have you been?  What's the only call that about 5 threads have been started about?  Replay would have either confirmed the call on the field or been overturn.  We really needed it tonight.

So,.........................when is Warren going to hand over that Championship trophy to Booneville.  I have heard quite a few people talking about how Booneville got "screwed" in that one.  All they would need is a good video,  right?  Or has the statute of limitations ran out on that game? 

I honestly don't know what those people are talking about.  That was clearly a fumble we ran back, but to be perfectly honest, I want the right call to be made.  If replay would've been available, I would have wanted to use it.  There's no harm in looking at a play again, like tonight's play or the Booneville play, just to make sure.  The kids deserve it.
Title: Re: JUST GOT THROUGH WATCHING FILM AT WARREN FIELDHOUSE
Post by: Maximus20092 on December 10, 2006, 04:31:48 am
As a person that is from Monticello (a team that happens) to not like Warren all that much i must say that Warren did in fact get screwed. I'm sorry the way it turned out you should be the real winners and yes i said should so dont got quoting me and saying "yeah should but aren't! ;D" or something stupid like that i hope the refs were fired and i hope the scrappers feel really good about those rings on their fingers that shouldn't be there.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Maximus20092 on December 10, 2006, 05:16:03 am
you sir are a person who knows how to deal with a tense situation and should be a crisis negotiator. I believe that every thing deserves a second look.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: tainted gold on December 10, 2006, 07:59:07 am
Quote from: scrapdawgof06 on December 10, 2006, 01:20:18 am
To all the whiners saying they got cheated... I was there... only reason we (Nashville) fell silent on that 2 pt. conversion was to see the replay as to where it was good or not, because going by the way it looked... it was too close to call... with my mom standing right beside me... we looked up at the jumbotron right as the Warren player supposedly crossed the plain, it was a 1/2 yard short with the players knee touching the turf before he crossed the plain.. on another note... the ball popped out and Nashville recovered it...

but to the loyal fans of both Nashville and Warren, my god it was loud at WMS... and im freaking hoarse... Congrats to my Scrappers but also, congrats on Warren for giving us our first real test of the season...   may we meet again

Scrapdawg

Go Scrappers!

Typical Nashville fan!!! "You are a loser and you are a whiner if you dont agree"

I was there also. I saw the jumbotron too. I saw the ball go across the goal line BEFORE his knee hit the ground.

Granted it happens daily in every sport and without replay rules in place the officials call is what stands but to say "Quit whinning and get over it" shows the attitude that is typical for Nashville.

Somewhere out there there is video. Lets see it!!!

You have your gold but it is tainted.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: tradition on December 10, 2006, 08:26:38 am
Quote from: tainted gold on December 10, 2006, 07:59:07 am
Quote from: scrapdawgof06 on December 10, 2006, 01:20:18 am
To all the whiners saying they got cheated... I was there... only reason we (Nashville) fell silent on that 2 pt. conversion was to see the replay as to where it was good or not, because going by the way it looked... it was too close to call... with my mom standing right beside me... we looked up at the jumbotron right as the Warren player supposedly crossed the plain, it was a 1/2 yard short with the players knee touching the turf before he crossed the plain.. on another note... the ball popped out and Nashville recovered it...

but to the loyal fans of both Nashville and Warren, my god it was loud at WMS... and im freaking hoarse... Congrats to my Scrappers but also, congrats on Warren for giving us our first real test of the season...   may we meet again

Scrapdawg

Go Scrappers!

Typical Nashville fan!!! "You are a loser and you are a whiner if you dont agree"

I was there also. I saw the jumbotron too. I saw the ball go across the goal line BEFORE his knee hit the ground.

Granted it happens daily in every sport and without replay rules in place the officials call is what stands but to say "Quit whinning and get over it" shows the attitude that is typical for Nashville.

Somewhere out there there is video. Lets see it!!!

You have your gold but it is tainted.

You know, of all the people that were there, including thousands of fans and the refs, you were the only one that saw the knees...or at least the only one on this board to claim it.
Title: Re: JUST GOT THROUGH WATCHING FILM AT WARREN FIELDHOUSE
Post by: scrapper76njhs on December 10, 2006, 08:58:42 am
holy crap!how can you say this! AJ got facemasked every other play! and they only gave him 5 yards.....shoulda been 15...i expected yall to go home and tit about it...good game though...
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: archaic on December 10, 2006, 09:01:28 am
I understand that everyone is upset. This is a terrible situation. No game, not to mention a State Title game should come down to this. I feel extremely bad for Warren and Nashville. Yes, J. Wright got into the endzone, and no, his knee was not down. Many fans have posted that his knee was not able to be seen on the replay. Ok, his knee was just out of the picture. However, judging by the vertical alignmet of his waist and upper thigh, his knee couldn't have possibly touched the ground when the ball crossed the goaline. It is physically impossible. There were also several other players underneath him anyway. This argument makes no difference. Honestly, I feel almost as bad for the Nashville kids as I do for the Warren kids. They, looked up and saw the replay, just like everyone else.They know. I watched a great game. It's very sad it had to end like it did.
Title: Re: JUST GOT THROUGH WATCHING FILM AT WARREN FIELDHOUSE
Post by: LJ06 on December 10, 2006, 09:07:52 am
hey it happened to our runningbacks and quarterback as well junior high scrapper
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: dhslizards on December 10, 2006, 09:12:57 am
The official didn't make the call when it happened. He ran in after the play was uver, looked down onto the ground and called it no good from where #6 was at that time. His call had nothing to do with his knee being down before he crossed the line.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: archaic on December 10, 2006, 09:15:45 am
Quote from: dhslizards on December 10, 2006, 09:12:57 am
The official didn't make the call when it happened. He ran in after the play was uver, looked down onto the ground and called it no good from where #6 was at that time. His call had nothing to do with his knee being down before he crossed the line.

Ok..............what is your point?
Title: Re: JUST GOT THROUGH WATCHING FILM AT WARREN FIELDHOUSE
Post by: archaic on December 10, 2006, 09:52:21 am
Quote from: scrapper76njhs on December 10, 2006, 08:58:42 am
holy crap!how can you say this! AJ got facemasked every other play! and they only gave him 5 yards.....shoulda been 15...i expected yall to go home and tit about it...good game though...

Two questions: Where were you sitting and did you have binoculars? Warren was tackling high most of the night. That was one of our problems. However, a high tackle doesn't constitute a facemask.
Title: Watch it for yourself.
Post by: tradition on December 10, 2006, 11:02:06 am
Go to google.com and search for ktbs 3.  you can then watch the reel on the website.  Looks to me like someone was down
Title: Re: Watch it for yourself.
Post by: A JETS MI MONK on December 10, 2006, 11:09:01 am
What is with those eyebrows?  They were freaking me out!
Title: Re: Watch it for yourself.
Post by: BringbckSingletary on December 10, 2006, 11:09:55 am
knee was not down, and that's not the best view, a better one will be posted shortly
Title: Re: Watch it for yourself.
Post by: #1 STUNNA on December 10, 2006, 11:14:25 am
cant tell, i thought he was in
Title: Re: Watch it for yourself.
Post by: Always Friday on December 10, 2006, 11:15:08 am
I go to the link and shows the windows media player but won't run video. ARGH!!!
Why?
Title: Re: Watch it for yourself.
Post by: King Julius on December 10, 2006, 11:15:52 am
The ball even hit the ground and started coming out before the goal line.
Title: Re: Watch it for yourself.
Post by: FootballGuy43 on December 10, 2006, 11:16:01 am
what is the entire link....I tried looking for it and could not see it.
Title: Re: Watch it for yourself.
Post by: BringbckSingletary on December 10, 2006, 11:16:26 am
He was in, the ball was 2 feet over the line.
Title: Re: Watch it for yourself.
Post by: The Grudge on December 10, 2006, 11:18:21 am
He was not in by that video good call by the refs
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: scrapper76njhs on December 10, 2006, 11:18:33 am
watch the highlights under championship friday...quality aint great...but it shows the ball and he put the ball over when he was on the groundhttp://www.ktbs.com/news/sportslocal/4875641.html
Title: Re: Watch it for yourself.
Post by: archaic on December 10, 2006, 11:19:13 am
Quote from: tradition on December 10, 2006, 11:02:06 am
Go to google.com and search for ktbs 3.  you can then watch the reel on the website.  Looks to me like someone was down

Looks to you huh. Well, it's funny no one else in the state besides you saw that. I'm not sure how you came to that conclusion. I've heard of people lying about something until they believe it, but dang.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: BringbckSingletary on December 10, 2006, 11:19:23 am
No he didn't, the quality is terrible, and the ball was over the line one foot before the knee
Title: Re: Watch it for yourself.
Post by: archaic on December 10, 2006, 11:20:26 am
Quote from: The Grudge on December 10, 2006, 11:18:21 am
He was not in by that video good call by the refs

Guys, I'm starting to worry about you. I know people like to pull for their team, but come on.
Title: Re: Watch it for yourself.
Post by: tradition on December 10, 2006, 11:20:36 am
Wow, that's why I'm not the only one who thinks he wasn't in.
Title: Re: Watch it for yourself.
Post by: Romeo on December 10, 2006, 11:22:35 am
Quote from: The Arkansas Kid on December 10, 2006, 11:15:52 am
The ball even hit the ground and started coming out before the goal line.


The ground cannot cause a fumble. After reviewing the play 100 times in the last 20 minutes i have no doubt warren won the ballgame. Unfortunately there's no slow motion but Jarius Wright definitely broke the plane before his knees were even down. There shouldn't any question whether he was down or not.
Title: Re: Watch it for yourself.
Post by: archaic on December 10, 2006, 11:23:52 am
I'm ashamed to be a fan of the game of football. Yall make us look like morons. There must truly be some biased opinions. I wish some fans could just admit he was in.
Title: Re: Watch it for yourself.
Post by: FootballGuy43 on December 10, 2006, 11:24:53 am
which link was it...I am not seeing it.
Title: Re: Watch it for yourself.
Post by: A JETS MI MONK on December 10, 2006, 11:25:41 am
After viewing the pics (thanks for sending those) and the video I think that he might have gotten in.  I'm not sure, but I will say nice tackle by whomever stopped him.  That guy has got to feel great right now.  You saved Nashville.
Title: Re: Watch it for yourself.
Post by: tradition on December 10, 2006, 11:26:59 am
can someone forward those pics to jrarnol@uark.edu?
Title: Re: Watch it for yourself.
Post by: Always Friday on December 10, 2006, 11:27:25 am
go to KTBS.com and click on the tab with sports on the right. And it will be on the top of that page.  ;D
Title: Re: Watch it for yourself.
Post by: A JETS MI MONK on December 10, 2006, 11:30:24 am
Quote from: Scrapper Pride on December 10, 2006, 11:27:25 am
go to KTBS.com and click on the tab with sports on the right. And it will be on the top of that page.  ;D

And try not to look at the newscaster.  The guy has two caterpillars on his face.
Title: Re: Watch it for yourself.
Post by: cowboy391 on December 10, 2006, 11:34:52 am
you know i don't have a dog in the fight but i have seen warren loose at other sports and they always want to blame someone other than theirselves when they loose... i don't care wheather he was over or down.. but i saw three different news cameras and they all look like he was down gheez can we stop whining about all this and start discussing something else
Title: Re: Watch it for yourself.
Post by: Always Friday on December 10, 2006, 11:36:48 am
Quote from: cowboy391 on December 10, 2006, 11:34:52 am
you know i don't have a dog in the fight but i have seen warren loose at other sports and they always want to blame someone other than theirselves when they loose... i don't care wheather he was over or down.. but i saw three different news cameras and they all look like he was down gheez can we stop whining about all this and start discussing something else


Well...not much to talk about...other than:
Whats your preseason rankings for the 2007 season??

Go Scraps  ;)
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: FF Secretary of Defense Flap_Jack48 on December 10, 2006, 12:37:47 pm
Warren fans were doing what any fan base that just saw their team get absolutely jobbed would do.  We also were chanting "We're #1", because we know that our team is #1. 

The respect level may be dropping for Warren, but it's already hit rock bottom for Nashville.  Ya'll know you lost and still can't admit it--even with video proof in front of you. 

Once again, I say, enjoy the trophy, rings, etc.  the rest of the state will remember its:

Nashville 2006 4A State Champions**

--Kyle
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: bowflex89 on December 10, 2006, 12:46:38 pm
Warren doesn't blame nashville they weren't the blind refs calling the ball game! We would have took the win just like nashville but when the ball crosses the plane a foot and a half well...... SCORE!!!!
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Jack1990 on December 10, 2006, 01:51:25 pm
Gas to drive to Little Rock to watch the 2006 AAAA Championship game - $12.00
Parking at War Memorial Stadium - $5.00
Admission to the game for family of 3 - $21.00
Hearing the deafening silence from the Nashville stands when the replay showed the conversion was good - PRICELESS!!
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Big Time on December 10, 2006, 01:54:56 pm
Everyone was in Silence because no one knew what the heck!@ was going on. Until the Ref said that Nashville is still your State Champions
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Super Scrapper on December 10, 2006, 01:58:08 pm
Quote from: Jack1990 on December 10, 2006, 01:51:25 pm
Gas to drive to Little Rock to watch the 2006 AAAA Championship game - $12.00
Parking at War Memorial Stadium - $5.00
Admission to the game for family of 3 - $21.00
Hearing the deafening silence from the Nashville stands when the replay showed the conversion was good - PRICELESS!!

The picture did not show that.  It only showed the ball crossing the goal line, it did not show that his knee was down before that and the ref made the "CORRECT" call.  Proof by pictures in other thread....Groan on....SS

Go Scrappers
   ;)
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: billiemajor #1 (45 Counter Tre) on December 10, 2006, 02:05:28 pm
Quote from: Jack1990 on December 10, 2006, 01:51:25 pm
Gas to drive to Little Rock to watch the 2006 AAAA Championship game - $12.00
Parking at War Memorial Stadium - $5.00
Admission to the game for family of 3 - $21.00
Hearing the deafening silence from the Nashville stands when the replay showed the conversion was good - PRICELESS!!

Gas was closer to $120, lol, but Im from Monticello...Warren is our biggest rival game, Monticello HATES Warren, but even I know yall won.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: seark66 on December 10, 2006, 02:15:10 pm
Quote from: Super Scrapper on December 10, 2006, 01:58:08 pmThe picture did not show that.  It only showed the ball crossing the goal line, it did not show that his knee was down before that and the ref made the "CORRECT" call.  Proof by pictures in other thread....Groan on....SS

Go Scrappers
   ;)

That other picture on the board shows his knee down, or I assume that is what it was supposed to show...the quality is terrible, but the ball had broken the plane. Which means the two point conversion was good.
Title: Re: JUST GOT THROUGH WATCHING FILM AT WARREN FIELDHOUSE
Post by: seark66 on December 10, 2006, 02:20:03 pm
Quote from: Sports_Nutt on December 10, 2006, 01:40:21 pm
Film orno film the game is over and id seen it too on film he was down so stop crying its over ....Yea a million times iver herd that the refs were paid off get real...It was a great game and some one lost and some one won.....Takeit as  a grain of salt game over.

Who said the refs were paid off?

I think they just made a very poor call on a very important play. As far as I know nobody accused them of getting 'paid off'.
Title: Re: JUST GOT THROUGH WATCHING FILM AT WARREN FIELDHOUSE
Post by: Mulerider on December 10, 2006, 02:24:31 pm
Quote from: JACK D BACK 27 on December 10, 2006, 12:26:58 am
HE WAS ACROSS BY AT LEAST TWO FEET AND HE DOVE FROM THE ONE HIS KNEE WAS NEVER CLOSE TO BEING DOWN.  ALSO THE TOUCHDOWN THAT GOT CALLED BACK WHICH THEN IT WOULD OF NEVER WENT TO OVERTIME, THE COACHES ARE STILL TRYING TO SEE WHICH LINEMAN WAS DOWNFIELD.  THE WARREN LINEMAN ARE TAUGHT WHEN BALL IS THROWN GO TO IT ALL FIVE LINEMAN WERE AT THE LINE WHEN THE BALL WAS THROWN.

After seeing the still photo, do you retract your statement about "he was across by at least two feet".  He was down at about the 1.5 yard line and stretching.  Did the ball cross the line before his body was down?  Not likely, the lower half of the body hits before the upper half.  Very close.

Great effort, gutsy call.  Penalties stopped both teams.
Title: Re: JUST GOT THROUGH WATCHING FILM AT WARREN FIELDHOUSE
Post by: JackStar on December 10, 2006, 02:24:39 pm
Quote from: pantherfan56 on December 10, 2006, 12:58:40 am
Quote from: The Judge on December 10, 2006, 12:56:27 am
I was at the game going for Nashville, but on the replay it cleary showed the quarterback break the plain and score. Something will HAVE to be done. Warren SHOULD be AAAA State Champs.
But they're not, GET OVER IT.
You dont know what it's like to win one or lose one so, get out.
Title: I've watched the replay. Here are my thoughts.
Post by: dotson on December 10, 2006, 02:47:48 pm
I watched the replay that was linked from KTBS in Shreveport. Here's the link.
http://www.ktbs.com/news/sportslocal/4875641.html (http://www.ktbs.com/news/sportslocal/4875641.html)

I've watched the thing a dozen times. Using the sorry player that they provide, I've tried to pause and advance by frame. It won't work. Having looked at it a dozen times, I still can't tell you if the runner was down and then the ball crossed, or if the ball crosses and then the runner is down. I suspect the raw footage tells the story, but I can't use the player to accomplish it for me here on my computer.

I will make three observations that will hopefully allay some of the Warren complaints.

First, this play is close. Very close. All the posts on the board, but for a few, made it sound as though the WMS replay was clear and the runner scored. Not according to KTBS's footage. It is gnat's hair close. So get off your high horse. If the covering official got it wrong at all, he didn't miss by much.

Second, the umpire - not the back judge - was the covering official. The play landed at the umpire's feet. On the tape, he clearly steps in and waves no good. No conference between officials was necessary. The mechanics rule of officiating is that if one official has the try no good, then everyone has no good. Nothing wrong with the coverage or with the mechanics.

Third, I've also read some whining posts from Warren concerning fouls. I looked in the paper. 7 fouls against Warren, 7 fouls against Nashville. Hardly lopsided. I've read comments about phantom ineligible linemen downfield. An ineligible downfield does not have to be a lineman in the sense of #55 playing center, guard, or tackle. With Warren's multiple sets and multiple receivers, they run the risk of covering an end on the line of scrimmage, thus making the guy doing the covering the actual end and rendering the intended end ineligible. So counting five lineman on the film during a play where an ineligible receiver foul was assessed could well be insufficient. Not saying for sure that's what happened because I don't know. But that is a definite possibility. So before you get righteously sanctimonious, you better ask the right questions and know the necessary answers.

Finally, to the poster who represents himself as a Warren player that traveled back to the Jacks' multi purpose facility and watched the film: you said the film clearly showed that the runner dove and he did not hit the ground until he broke the plane. The KTBS footage is at ground level. I suspect the team film was taken from the 4th deck of the press box. The KTBS footage was taken from what appears to be the end line towards the west, or Nashville, sideline. It is not clear from that vantage point that the runner dives and crosses before hitting. What is shown is that the runner is hit, he dives, he puts a hand down, and he extends the ball over the goal line. It certainly looks like his leg and hip were on the ground before he extended. But I cannot tell for sure because of the video player and the footage. I will say this for certain - The KTBS angle is true and is far superior to your game footage angle. Since it's at ground level, it will also be better than a team's end zone shot from an elevated position.

Now, as to my vested interests in this thing. I watch 4A football as a parent and as a fan. My team made the playoffs, but has already packed their gear. I watch ARkansas high school football generally as an Arkansas high school football official. Had I been on the field in that umpire's shoes, I cannot sit here and tell you I would have done it any differently. It is just that close on the KTBS tape.

I wish the best for the grieving Warren fans and players. I can only imagine what a bitter pill this must be to swallow. But every game has a winner and a loser. Every championship game has a state champ and a second place finisher. What you do with the experience is the value and the life lesson that football teaches. In the long run, I suspect Warren and the Jacks players will benefit more from this tough loss than Nashville's Scrappers will benefit from the win. That is my hope.

Title: Re: I've watched the replay. Here are my thoughts.
Post by: Jack1990 on December 10, 2006, 02:50:49 pm
Nice post ghog.  +1
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: tainted gold on December 10, 2006, 03:11:04 pm
Quote from: scrapper76njhs on December 10, 2006, 08:46:08 am
way to go warren fans just when i figured u couldnt sink any lower...what class...you had no business staying after the game booing the refs &players&coaches...no class what so ever...when they were thinking about turning the play for 6 we were not booing but then you must stay and boo and make yourself look bad on warrens part...i was gonna get on here and say ya know yall played well...but with the sucky additude you have....i bet that runner-up trophy looks pretty nice huh!!??

Translated: I was thinking about having some class myself but I decided to be a typical Nashville fan.
Title: Re: I've watched the replay. Here are my thoughts.
Post by: bootsie84 on December 10, 2006, 03:12:54 pm
Nicely done.
Title: Re: I've watched the replay. Here are my thoughts.
Post by: #1 STUNNA on December 10, 2006, 03:37:30 pm
warren tapes the game in the pressbox and on the field
Title: Re: I've watched the replay. Here are my thoughts.
Post by: LJ06 on December 10, 2006, 03:45:22 pm
Man I forgot we taped on the field also...we need to get that tape from SEABEC and watch the final play to see if it shows anything we haven't already seen or has a better view
Title: Re: JUST GOT THROUGH WATCHING FILM AT WARREN FIELDHOUSE
Post by: fbhound on December 10, 2006, 04:09:52 pm
    Truth is Nashville stats clearly show they outdid Warren on offense.
And if Nashville kicker ( a normally good one) had hit either of those SHORT field goals, there would not have been a 2nd OT. One FG was LESS than extra point distance! Another was about the same as an XP...  The film is NOT clear if the knee is down before the ball breaks the plane. In fact, it likely shows the elbow down before the ball crosses, which also counts as a downed play - no good 2 point conversion either way. There is a big difference when you stretch out and have the ball in your hand across the goal when the ball is 3-4 feet above ground and when the ball is just an inch or two above ground when it crosses (as in this case)... That points to SOME part of the body already on the ground since the player is NOT horizontal, he is angling upwards slightly which means the body was down first....
     A player just can't be horizontal with all parts of his body 1-2 inches above ground and have the ball the same 2 inches above the goal line. The ONLY situation when that would occur is if the player leaped in the air high, then as he was coming down from 2-3 feet high he reached DOWN with the ball across the goal just an inch above ground and his body was HIGHER than the ball.. That was NOT the case here. The body was BELOW the ball, look at the play again..
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: archaic on December 10, 2006, 04:22:49 pm
Quote from: seark66 on December 10, 2006, 02:15:10 pm
Quote from: Super Scrapper on December 10, 2006, 01:58:08 pmThe picture did not show that.  It only showed the ball crossing the goal line, it did not show that his knee was down before that and the ref made the "CORRECT" call.  Proof by pictures in other thread....Groan on....SS

Go Scrappers
   ;)

That other picture on the board shows his knee down, or I assume that is what it was supposed to show...the quality is terrible, but the ball had broken the plane. Which means the two point conversion was good.

If the view only showed the ball crossing the goaline, how do you know it was the correct call?
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: tradition on December 10, 2006, 04:24:57 pm
Well, the simple fact is that you cannot tell, in a picture whether one happened before the other.  Again, the jumbotron DID NOT SHOW HIS WHOLE BODY, THEREFORE CANNOT BE USED TO PROVE A 'BLOWN' CALL.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: archaic on December 10, 2006, 04:26:48 pm
Then, we don't know what the correct call was(although it was very clear in the replay).
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Mulerider on December 10, 2006, 04:29:55 pm
Which replay was it "very clear" in?  In the still picture, he is at least 1.5 yards away from the goalline.  All others are questionable.  I would have to say the guys in stripes that were the closest had the best view.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: fan7 on December 10, 2006, 04:33:05 pm
Quote from: the 1 percent on December 10, 2006, 02:47:24 pm
http://showtime.arkansasonline.com/ADG/ (http://showtime.arkansasonline.com/ADG/)

When a player gets tackled do the refs spot the ball for the next play where his knee hit the ground or where the ball actually is? 
Title: Re: I've watched the replay. Here are my thoughts.
Post by: Mulerider on December 10, 2006, 04:35:03 pm
Good post, this play was so close it would have been controversial either way.  IMO the best team won and when watching live, I also thought the runner was down.

Thanks for the view from a referee's point of view. I have also read that the guys made no call, I am glad to see they were in good position and used proper mechanics.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: archaic on December 10, 2006, 04:36:33 pm
Quote from: Mulerider on December 10, 2006, 04:29:55 pm
Which replay was it "very clear" in?  In the still picture, he is at least 1.5 yards away from the goalline.  All others are questionable.  I would have to say the guys in stripes that were the closest had the best view.

The camera in the back of the endzone that was shown at the game is the view I'm talking about. The entire Nashville Side gasped at the site of that. It was almost funny to hear nothing coming from over there.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: shortstuff9219 on December 10, 2006, 04:38:22 pm
WARREN IS 2006 STATE CHAMPIONS ... EVERYONE KNOWS IT INCLUDING NASHVILLE !!!!!
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: tradition on December 10, 2006, 04:38:50 pm
Quote from: shortstuff9219 on December 10, 2006, 04:38:22 pm
WARREN IS 2006 STATE CHAMPIONS ... EVERYONE KNOWS IT INCLUDING NASHVILLE !!!!!

As I have said a couple of times......PROVE IT CONCLUSIVELY!!!
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: archaic on December 10, 2006, 04:40:05 pm
Quote from: tradition on December 10, 2006, 04:38:50 pm
Quote from: shortstuff9219 on December 10, 2006, 04:38:22 pm
WARREN IS 2006 STATE CHAMPIONS ... EVERYONE KNOWS IT INCLUDING NASHVILLE !!!!!

As I have said a couple of times......PROVE IT CONCLUSIVELY!!!

Prove it in favor of Nashville Conclusively............let's see what you come up with.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: tradition on December 10, 2006, 04:40:41 pm
Quote from: archaic on December 10, 2006, 04:40:05 pm
Quote from: tradition on December 10, 2006, 04:38:50 pm
Quote from: shortstuff9219 on December 10, 2006, 04:38:22 pm
WARREN IS 2006 STATE CHAMPIONS ... EVERYONE KNOWS IT INCLUDING NASHVILLE !!!!!

As I have said a couple of times......PROVE IT CONCLUSIVELY!!!

Prove it in favor of Nashville Conclusively............let's see what you come up with.

me and the ref agree, so you've gotta prove it.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: archaic on December 10, 2006, 04:44:24 pm
Quote from: tradition on December 10, 2006, 04:40:41 pm
Quote from: archaic on December 10, 2006, 04:40:05 pm
Quote from: tradition on December 10, 2006, 04:38:50 pm
Quote from: shortstuff9219 on December 10, 2006, 04:38:22 pm
WARREN IS 2006 STATE CHAMPIONS ... EVERYONE KNOWS IT INCLUDING NASHVILLE !!!!!

As I have said a couple of times......PROVE IT CONCLUSIVELY!!!

Prove it in favor of Nashville Conclusively............let's see what you come up with.

me and the ref agree, so you've gotta prove it.

Why should I..........................? Anyway.......that is a sorry excuse.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: tradition on December 10, 2006, 04:46:05 pm
Quote from: archaic on December 10, 2006, 04:44:24 pm
Quote from: tradition on December 10, 2006, 04:40:41 pm
Quote from: archaic on December 10, 2006, 04:40:05 pm
Quote from: tradition on December 10, 2006, 04:38:50 pm
Quote from: shortstuff9219 on December 10, 2006, 04:38:22 pm
WARREN IS 2006 STATE CHAMPIONS ... EVERYONE KNOWS IT INCLUDING NASHVILLE !!!!!

As I have said a couple of times......PROVE IT CONCLUSIVELY!!!

Prove it in favor of Nashville Conclusively............let's see what you come up with.

me and the ref agree, so you've gotta prove it.

Why should I..........................? Anyway.......that is a sorry excuse.

That's not a sorry excuse.  That's the way it works any where.  The ruling official is right until proven wrong. 
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: outlaw39 on December 10, 2006, 04:47:43 pm
BOO FRICKIN HOO!!   :'( :'( If Y'all (Warren) were as good as you were "bragging" about for the past 2 weeks, It wouldn't have came down to OT anyways. I have watched about 5-6 different angles, and none showed anything to reverse the call. It was an awesome game that is tarnished not by a "tainted call", but by a bunch of whining people that won't shut up because they were "robbed".
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: shortstuff9219 on December 10, 2006, 04:49:17 pm
Quote from: tradition on December 10, 2006, 04:38:50 pm
Quote from: shortstuff9219 on December 10, 2006, 04:38:22 pm
WARREN IS 2006 STATE CHAMPIONS ... EVERYONE KNOWS IT INCLUDING NASHVILLE !!!!!

As I have said a couple of times......PROVE IT CONCLUSIVELY!!!

WE DON'T HAVE TO PROVE IT YALL KNOW THAT WARREN IS STATE CHAMPS SO ACCEPT THAT FACT THAT ITS TRUE... YALL PROVED IT TO YALLSELVES THAT WE WON WHEN THEY SHOWED THE REPLAY AND YALL STOPPED CHEERING... PROLLY CAUSE YALL KNEW YALL HAD LOST !!! JUST CAUSE A REF MAKES A BAD CALL DONT MEAN THAT YALL ARE STATE CHAMPS.. YALL HAVE THE RING TROPHY BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING IF ITS NOT THE TRUTH !!!
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: tradition on December 10, 2006, 04:50:47 pm
Quote from: shortstuff9219 on December 10, 2006, 04:49:17 pm
Quote from: tradition on December 10, 2006, 04:38:50 pm
Quote from: shortstuff9219 on December 10, 2006, 04:38:22 pm
WARREN IS 2006 STATE CHAMPIONS ... EVERYONE KNOWS IT INCLUDING NASHVILLE !!!!!

As I have said a couple of times......PROVE IT CONCLUSIVELY!!!

WE DON'T HAVE TO PROVE IT YALL KNOW THAT WARREN IS STATE CHAMPS SO ACCEPT THAT FACT THAT ITS TRUE... YALL PROVED IT TO YALLSELVES THAT WE WON WHEN THEY SHOWED THE REPLAY AND YALL STOPPED CHEERING... PROLLY CAUSE YALL KNEW YALL HAD LOST !!! JUST CAUSE A REF MAKES A BAD CALL DONT MEAN THAT YALL ARE STATE CHAMPS.. YALL HAVE THE RING TROPHY BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING IF ITS NOT THE TRUTH !!!

You obviously don't understand what it means to score.  The replay didn't show the whole picture.  They should really have an age limit here...or at least one for IQ
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: archaic on December 10, 2006, 04:51:53 pm
Quote from: tradition on December 10, 2006, 04:50:47 pm
Quote from: shortstuff9219 on December 10, 2006, 04:49:17 pm
Quote from: tradition on December 10, 2006, 04:38:50 pm
Quote from: shortstuff9219 on December 10, 2006, 04:38:22 pm
WARREN IS 2006 STATE CHAMPIONS ... EVERYONE KNOWS IT INCLUDING NASHVILLE !!!!!

As I have said a couple of times......PROVE IT CONCLUSIVELY!!!

WE DON'T HAVE TO PROVE IT YALL KNOW THAT WARREN IS STATE CHAMPS SO ACCEPT THAT FACT THAT ITS TRUE... YALL PROVED IT TO YALLSELVES THAT WE WON WHEN THEY SHOWED THE REPLAY AND YALL STOPPED CHEERING... PROLLY CAUSE YALL KNEW YALL HAD LOST !!! JUST CAUSE A REF MAKES A BAD CALL DONT MEAN THAT YALL ARE STATE CHAMPS.. YALL HAVE THE RING TROPHY BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING IF ITS NOT THE TRUTH !!!

You obviously don't understand what it means to score.  The replay didn't show the whole picture.  They should really have an age limit here...or at least one for IQ

No.......you don't want that.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: tradition on December 10, 2006, 04:53:00 pm
Quote from: archaic on December 10, 2006, 04:51:53 pm
Quote from: tradition on December 10, 2006, 04:50:47 pm
Quote from: shortstuff9219 on December 10, 2006, 04:49:17 pm
Quote from: tradition on December 10, 2006, 04:38:50 pm
Quote from: shortstuff9219 on December 10, 2006, 04:38:22 pm
WARREN IS 2006 STATE CHAMPIONS ... EVERYONE KNOWS IT INCLUDING NASHVILLE !!!!!

As I have said a couple of times......PROVE IT CONCLUSIVELY!!!

WE DON'T HAVE TO PROVE IT YALL KNOW THAT WARREN IS STATE CHAMPS SO ACCEPT THAT FACT THAT ITS TRUE... YALL PROVED IT TO YALLSELVES THAT WE WON WHEN THEY SHOWED THE REPLAY AND YALL STOPPED CHEERING... PROLLY CAUSE YALL KNEW YALL HAD LOST !!! JUST CAUSE A REF MAKES A BAD CALL DONT MEAN THAT YALL ARE STATE CHAMPS.. YALL HAVE THE RING TROPHY BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING IF ITS NOT THE TRUTH !!!

You obviously don't understand what it means to score.  The replay didn't show the whole picture.  They should really have an age limit here...or at least one for IQ

No.......you don't want that.

Half of the members of this board would lose their id's.  Not you, particularly, but def. shortstuff.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: shortstuff9219 on December 10, 2006, 04:53:29 pm
Quote from: tradition on December 10, 2006, 04:50:47 pm
Quote from: shortstuff9219 on December 10, 2006, 04:49:17 pm
Quote from: tradition on December 10, 2006, 04:38:50 pm
Quote from: shortstuff9219 on December 10, 2006, 04:38:22 pm
WARREN IS 2006 STATE CHAMPIONS ... EVERYONE KNOWS IT INCLUDING NASHVILLE !!!!!

As I have said a couple of times......PROVE IT CONCLUSIVELY!!!

WE DON'T HAVE TO PROVE IT YALL KNOW THAT WARREN IS STATE CHAMPS SO ACCEPT THAT FACT THAT ITS TRUE... YALL PROVED IT TO YALLSELVES THAT WE WON WHEN THEY SHOWED THE REPLAY AND YALL STOPPED CHEERING... PROLLY CAUSE YALL KNEW YALL HAD LOST !!! JUST CAUSE A REF MAKES A BAD CALL DONT MEAN THAT YALL ARE STATE CHAMPS.. YALL HAVE THE RING TROPHY BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING IF ITS NOT THE TRUTH !!!

You obviously don't understand what it means to score.  The replay didn't show the whole picture.  They should really have an age limit here...or at least one for IQ

I KNOW EXACTLY WAT IT MEANS TO SCORE. YALL DON'T KNOW HOW TO ACCEPT THAT YALL LOST !!! WARREN 14-0 , NASHIVILLE 13-1.... THATS THE TRUTH !!!!!
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: dotson on December 10, 2006, 04:54:32 pm
Quote from: fan7 on December 10, 2006, 04:33:05 pm
Quote from: the 1 percent on December 10, 2006, 02:47:24 pm
http://showtime.arkansasonline.com/ADG/ (http://showtime.arkansasonline.com/ADG/)

When a player gets tackled do the refs spot the ball for the next play where his knee hit the ground or where the ball actually is? 

Where the ball was when the knee touched. The spot is not where the knee touched, unless that is also where the ball was. Unlikely.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: archaic on December 10, 2006, 04:55:13 pm
Quote from: tradition on December 10, 2006, 04:53:00 pm
Quote from: archaic on December 10, 2006, 04:51:53 pm
Quote from: tradition on December 10, 2006, 04:50:47 pm
Quote from: shortstuff9219 on December 10, 2006, 04:49:17 pm
Quote from: tradition on December 10, 2006, 04:38:50 pm
Quote from: shortstuff9219 on December 10, 2006, 04:38:22 pm
WARREN IS 2006 STATE CHAMPIONS ... EVERYONE KNOWS IT INCLUDING NASHVILLE !!!!!

As I have said a couple of times......PROVE IT CONCLUSIVELY!!!

WE DON'T HAVE TO PROVE IT YALL KNOW THAT WARREN IS STATE CHAMPS SO ACCEPT THAT FACT THAT ITS TRUE... YALL PROVED IT TO YALLSELVES THAT WE WON WHEN THEY SHOWED THE REPLAY AND YALL STOPPED CHEERING... PROLLY CAUSE YALL KNEW YALL HAD LOST !!! JUST CAUSE A REF MAKES A BAD CALL DONT MEAN THAT YALL ARE STATE CHAMPS.. YALL HAVE THE RING TROPHY BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING IF ITS NOT THE TRUTH !!!

You obviously don't understand what it means to score.  The replay didn't show the whole picture.  They should really have an age limit here...or at least one for IQ

No.......you don't want that.

Half of the members of this board would lose their id's.  Not you, particularly, but def. shortstuff.

Don't yall just love high school football?
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: seark66 on December 10, 2006, 05:16:51 pm
Quote from: outlaw39 on December 10, 2006, 04:47:43 pm
BOO FRICKIN HOO!!   :'( :'( If Y'all (Warren) were as good as you were "bragging" about for the past 2 weeks, It wouldn't have came down to OT anyways. I have watched about 5-6 different angles, and none showed anything to reverse the call. It was an awesome game that is tarnished not by a "tainted call", but by a bunch of whining people that won't shut up because they were "robbed".

Yes...pretty obvious you are from Howard County.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: outlaw39 on December 10, 2006, 05:23:36 pm
Bit of advise to Warren: GET READY FOR NEXT YEAR, RELOAD, AND TRY TO TAKE THE TITLE BACK!! No offense, y'all have a great program, but shut up. I didn't really care who won or not. I am from HO CO, but am not a sCrapper fan. The official made the call, Nashville won, try to take it from them next year.

Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: seark66 on December 10, 2006, 05:26:23 pm
Quote from: outlaw39 on December 10, 2006, 05:23:36 pm
Bit of advise to Warren: GET READY FOR NEXT YEAR, RELOAD, AND TRY TO TAKE THE TITLE BACK!! No offense, y'all have a great program, but shut up. I didn't really care who won or not. I am from HO CO, but am not a sCrapper fan. The official made the call, Nashville won, try to take it from them next year.

It shouldn't have to be taken from them. They shouldn't have it in the first place.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Nashville_05 on December 10, 2006, 05:34:57 pm
Quote from: shortstuff9219 on December 10, 2006, 04:53:29 pm
Quote from: tradition on December 10, 2006, 04:50:47 pm
Quote from: shortstuff9219 on December 10, 2006, 04:49:17 pm
Quote from: tradition on December 10, 2006, 04:38:50 pm
Quote from: shortstuff9219 on December 10, 2006, 04:38:22 pm
WARREN IS 2006 STATE CHAMPIONS ... EVERYONE KNOWS IT INCLUDING NASHVILLE !!!!!

As I have said a couple of times......PROVE IT CONCLUSIVELY!!!

WE DON'T HAVE TO PROVE IT YALL KNOW THAT WARREN IS STATE CHAMPS SO ACCEPT THAT FACT THAT ITS TRUE... YALL PROVED IT TO YALLSELVES THAT WE WON WHEN THEY SHOWED THE REPLAY AND YALL STOPPED CHEERING... PROLLY CAUSE YALL KNEW YALL HAD LOST !!! JUST CAUSE A REF MAKES A BAD CALL DONT MEAN THAT YALL ARE STATE CHAMPS.. YALL HAVE THE RING TROPHY BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING IF ITS NOT THE TRUTH !!!

You obviously don't understand what it means to score.  The replay didn't show the whole picture.  They should really have an age limit here...or at least one for IQ

I KNOW EXACTLY WAT IT MEANS TO SCORE. YALL DON'T KNOW HOW TO ACCEPT THAT YALL LOST !!! WARREN 14-0 , NASHIVILLE 13-1.... THATS THE TRUTH !!!!!

delusional?
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Sarcasmrules on December 10, 2006, 05:36:56 pm
Quote from: scrapdawgof06 on December 10, 2006, 01:20:18 am
To all the whiners saying they got cheated... I was there... only reason we (Nashville) fell silent on that 2 pt. conversion was to see the replay as to where it was good or not, because going by the way it looked... it was too close to call... with my mom standing right beside me... we looked up at the jumbotron right as the Warren player supposedly crossed the plain, it was a 1/2 yard short with the players knee touching the turf before he crossed the plain.. on another note... the ball popped out and Nashville recovered it...

but to the loyal fans of both Nashville and Warren, my god it was loud at WMS... and im freaking hoarse... Congrats to my Scrappers but also, congrats on Warren for giving us our first real test of the season...   may we meet again

Scrapdawg

Go Scrappers!
Bullcrap and very wrong. Silent from guilt. Bullcrap.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: outlaw39 on December 10, 2006, 05:37:21 pm
Well, they have it. Either reload and get ready to take it from them next year, or sit here on FF.com crying about it. Act like fans that have an AWESOME and well respected program and say get ready for next year instead of sounding like a bunch of 3 year olds.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Sarcasmrules on December 10, 2006, 05:42:10 pm
Quote from: outlaw39 on December 10, 2006, 05:37:21 pm
Well, they have it. Either reload and get ready to take it from them next year, or sit here on FF.com crying about it. Act like fans that have an AWESOME and well respected program and say get ready for next year instead of sounding like a bunch of 3 year olds.
I'm over it but our kids probably aren't and that is who I'm hacked for. They will come back next year no doubt. The moral of this team to a hit winning a game and not getting the win. That is the only way to look at it. There is no controversy he was in by a foot and a half. We lost but won. We will be back and angry.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: outlaw39 on December 10, 2006, 05:57:44 pm
Quote from: BroomeHog33 on December 10, 2006, 05:42:10 pm
Quote from: outlaw39 on December 10, 2006, 05:37:21 pm
Well, they have it. Either reload and get ready to take it from them next year, or sit here on FF.com crying about it. Act like fans that have an AWESOME and well respected program and say get ready for next year instead of sounding like a bunch of 3 year olds.
I'm over it but our kids probably aren't and that is who I'm hacked for. They will come back next year no doubt. The moral of this team to a hit winning a game and not getting the win. That is the only way to look at it. There is no controversy he was in by a foot and a half. We lost but won. We will be back and angry.
All I'm saying is if y'all are over it, start talkin' about next year's title. I'm sure the kids are upset about it. I played in some close games that could've/should've went the other way. We didn't whine about it, we got ready for the next game/year. Hat's off to Warren and Nashville. They are the only two teams that can say: "We made it to the championship Game" and "We are the only ones that kept up with Warren/Nashville". Good luck next year.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Scrapperfan725 on December 10, 2006, 07:45:13 pm
Ok..this is some crap...how can you say .we. cheated when BOTH of us went into double overtime..ok yeah warren can be hacked off and nashville would be too if we were in warren's situation.  We didnt cheat, we didnt know the refs..the refs didnt know us. They didnt make their minds up before the play was made..I mean i didnt see all the refs get in a group and all decide to call the last play in Nashville's favor...did you? Yeah thats what i thought. Warren get over it.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Always Friday on December 10, 2006, 08:29:55 pm
Watching Warren players storm the field because they thought they won: Priceless

Go Scraps  ;)
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: seark66 on December 10, 2006, 08:32:30 pm
Quote from: Scrapper Pride on December 10, 2006, 08:29:55 pm
Watching Warren players storm the field because they thought they won: Priceless

Go Scraps  ;)

They did win. Nashville will forever hold a 'championship' few believe they deserve.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: seark66 on December 10, 2006, 08:33:06 pm
Quote from: Scrapperfan725 on December 10, 2006, 07:45:13 pm
Ok..this is some crap...how can you say .we. cheated when BOTH of us went into double overtime..ok yeah warren can be hacked off and nashville would be too if we were in warren's situation.  We didnt cheat, we didnt know the refs..the refs didnt know us. They didnt make their minds up before the play was made..I mean i didnt see all the refs get in a group and all decide to call the last play in Nashville's favor...did you? Yeah thats what i thought. Warren get over it.

I don't recall people saying Nashville cheated. Ya'll won off a bad call. That isn't the players fault.
Title: Re: I've watched the replay. Here are my thoughts.
Post by: The Truth on December 10, 2006, 08:39:02 pm
I concur.  I listened to all the Whining Warren fans before i watched the replay and I would've sworn that it was conclusive that he crossed the goaline.  But when i watched it in real time my first reaction was that he was down... and if not downt then very close to being so.  He most definetly wasn't "Clearly" in or anything.  It was very close and there's no way any Warren fan can honestly look at these replays and so otherwise without their hometown bias factoring in!!! I think he was down from my first impression... but thats just one man's opinion.
Title: Re: I've watched the replay. Here are my thoughts.
Post by: johnharrison on December 10, 2006, 09:10:04 pm
Very nice post ghog. 

Most rational of the bunch,  thanks.
Title: Re: I've watched the replay. Here are my thoughts.
Post by: BringbckSingletary on December 10, 2006, 09:15:09 pm
Quote from: The Truth on December 10, 2006, 08:39:02 pm
I concur.  I listened to all the Whining Warren fans before i watched the replay and I would've sworn that it was conclusive that he crossed the goaline.  But when i watched it in real time my first reaction was that he was down... and if not downt then very close to being so.  He most definetly wasn't "Clearly" in or anything.  It was very close and there's no way any Warren fan can honestly look at these replays and so otherwise without their hometown bias factoring in!!! I think he was down from my first impression... but thats just one man's opinion.


That view is terrible, I assure you, there is a view that clearly states it.  There wouldn't be this much commotion if it was otherwise.
Title: Re: I've watched the replay. Here are my thoughts.
Post by: JD_Will on December 10, 2006, 09:49:57 pm
I've watched the game film from the pressbox and the high schools film that was shot from ground level, from the back of the endzone, on the play side. and TO ME the game film looks very close. The film from GROUND LEVEL, FROM THE BACK CORNER OF THE ENDZONE, ON THE PLAY SIDE, it is very evedent that Wrights legs were still in the air when the ball crossed the plane of the endzone. This film link is very choppy and my player won't let me slow it down or pause it at the right time to tell if he was down or if he scored. 

As far as the "Fumble" the ground caused the ball to come loose in the endzone, which ,by the rules, is not a fumble.

I just want Nashville to know that your state title is tainted.

The fouls were not lop-sided. The refs were just trying to make their presence felt and wanted to show the team how big and bad they were by calling a lot of things that they should have let go in a state title game, FOR BOTH TEAMS! AND, the linemen down field was called on our center who was a half a yard over the line and the ball was on it's way out of the passers hand. So, yes, it was a foul but you shouldn't call that stuff in a state title game. Like on a long run by Nashville in the third,  the tackle backside got called for holding when it had nothing to do with the result of the play. That kind of crap is freaking stupid!
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: TeachStats on December 10, 2006, 09:53:44 pm
Quote from: Scrapper Pride on December 10, 2006, 08:29:55 pm
Watching Warren players storm the field because they thought they won: Priceless


They stormed the field after the refs had left the field....what got them going?
Title: Re: I've watched the replay. Here are my thoughts.
Post by: Implant Guy on December 10, 2006, 09:54:09 pm
Well I guess that does it for me...one more opinion and no photography to back it up.
Title: Re: I've watched the replay. Here are my thoughts.
Post by: Mulerider on December 10, 2006, 09:57:17 pm
If there is something conclusive out there, I haven't seen it.  I have viewed many things.  The play was so close that you can't even tell for sure on video or still photos.  That being said, the refs had to call what they saw in a fraction of a second.  

They were in good position and were decisive, regardless of what you may read on this board.  All you can ask of any official is to be in proper position and get the best look possible, this is what happened.
Title: Re: I've watched the replay. Here are my thoughts.
Post by: Ringleader on December 10, 2006, 10:01:08 pm
why dont we go cry some more. get over it. nashville won fair and square the kids didnt make the call. why dont yall just take it like grown ups and let the kids from nashville get the chance to celebrate their victory. they cant help what the refs. called out on the feild.

to the nashville fans and team great sportsmanship. good job and dont listen to any one from warren cause their nothing but imature 3 year olds or at least their acting like it. next go celebrate yalls win. great job and hope you do it again.

to warren fans and team horrible sportsmanship. why dont yall try to grow up and act like your an adult. just say good job and get over it. and if yall ever make it to state again i hope yall show better sportsmanship and if you cant do that i hope you never go again.
Title: Re: I've watched the replay. Here are my thoughts.
Post by: JD_Will on December 10, 2006, 10:19:56 pm
Quote from: Implant Guy on December 10, 2006, 09:54:09 pm
Well I guess that does it for me...one more opinion and no photography to back it up.

Not my film and I'm not in a position to take high school property.


Quote from: Ringleaderwhy dont we go cry some more. get over it. nashville won fair and square the kids didnt make the call. why dont yall just take it like grown ups and let the kids from nashville get the chance to celebrate their victory. they cant help what the refs. called out on the feild.

You are right about the fact that the kids can't help what was called on the field. Neither can the warren kids. They cant help it that they got screwed. Nashville played a great game and their players have nothing to do with the refs call. They are not to blame for them getting the state title, on a bad call. They had NO part in that. Congrats, but we were the winners and came through in the clutch. I am very proud of Warren and Nashville. I really don't like the fact that our rivalry is so tainted with controversy.  Great jobs both teams.
Title: Re: Watch it for yourself.
Post by: arreferee on December 11, 2006, 08:17:11 am
Quote from: Romeo on December 10, 2006, 11:22:35 am
The ground cannot cause a fumble.

This is a common misconception...the ground can cause a fumble.
Title: Re: Watch it for yourself.
Post by: The_Preacher on December 11, 2006, 09:06:32 am
 By the looking at the senoirs each of these two teams had  Warren will return more  expericenced players, Nashville will have a big turnover  21 seniors
Title: Re: I've watched the replay. Here are my thoughts.
Post by: momof3 on December 11, 2006, 09:38:39 am
great post ghog.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Scrapperfan725 on December 11, 2006, 02:26:34 pm
Quote from: seark66 on December 10, 2006, 08:33:06 pm
Quote from: Scrapperfan725 on December 10, 2006, 07:45:13 pm
Ok..this is some crap...how can you say .we. cheated when BOTH of us went into double overtime..ok yeah warren can be hacked off and nashville would be too if we were in warren's situation.  We didnt cheat, we didnt know the refs..the refs didnt know us. They didnt make their minds up before the play was made..I mean i didnt see all the refs get in a group and all decide to call the last play in Nashville's favor...did you? Yeah thats what i thought. Warren get over it.

I don't recall people saying Nashville cheated. Ya'll won off a bad call. That isn't the players fault.

Read again on some previous pages...but you're right it's not the players fault..but it def wasnt a bad call. Look at the pics that have been posted on here..thats proof.  I mean I'll give it to Warren and to Nashville for working their buts off that game..it could have been anyones game.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: originalhawg on December 11, 2006, 03:51:43 pm
Quote from: FF Secretary of Defense Flap_Jack48 on December 10, 2006, 02:56:36 am
Who's to say it won't be reversed.  Enough people talk, someone will listen. 

The refs blew that call, and now, we're going to send it to their boss's and see if that problem can't be corrected.  If Warren had lost fair and square, I would concede to Nashville--but Warren won the football game on a converted 2-point try, the final should be 22-21, and Warren should be the 2006 4A state champions.

I can promise you one thing--this is not a matter that's just going to be brushed under the rug.  The ripple effects of what happened tonight will be around Arkansas high school football for a l-o-n-g time.

--Kyle

No one is going to change anything.  The only people whining about this are the people who want to believe the call is incorrect.  I have friends on both sides of this and really didn't care who won.  The only thing your loud outbursts will do is educate us on your level on maturity.....or lack thereof.  Good luck with your efforts though!
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: sam on December 11, 2006, 03:54:45 pm
Kyle, I like you being somewhat controversial for once, but this will be forgotten very soon. 
Title: No Glory for the Scrappers
Post by: jacks07 on December 11, 2006, 04:15:12 pm
The Scrappers can have no pride in their victory over the LUMBERJACKS at war memorial saturday. Any one who was there saw Jarius Wright cross that goal line. Even the nashville fans know that WARREN won that game. And if the boys from nashville can even think about talking like they beat us then they have no shame they know they lost! PLAIN and SIMPLE!!
Title: Re: No Glory for the Scrappers
Post by: sam on December 11, 2006, 04:18:49 pm
Did you mean plain and simple?

Oh by the way.

(http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/5270/cryingbabybh8.png)
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: jacks07 on December 11, 2006, 04:19:12 pm
To you i say that if you get a good video then you can clearly see that J's knee did not touch the ground until after he had scored. And if it just fell silent because everyone was watchin the jumbotron THEN why did nashville's players start walking off the FIELD!!!  Tell me that one!!
Title: Re: No Glory for the Scrappers
Post by: SCRAPDOG on December 11, 2006, 04:19:38 pm
Quote from: jacks07 on December 11, 2006, 04:15:12 pm
The Scrappers can have no pride in their victory over the LUMBERJACKS at war memorial saturday. Any one who was there saw Jarius Wright cross that goal line. Even the nashville fans know that WARREN won that game. And if the boys from nashville can even think about talking like they beat us then they have no shame they know they lost! PLAN and SIMPLE!!
very classy post!!!!!!
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: sam on December 11, 2006, 04:20:44 pm
Maybe because the game was over. 
Title: Re: No Glory for the Scrappers
Post by: jacks07 on December 11, 2006, 04:20:56 pm
Yea i'm just alittle angry with the stupid people
Title: Re: No Glory for the Scrappers
Post by: Implant Guy on December 11, 2006, 04:21:09 pm
Are you seriously going to start a new thread about this subject?  Give it a rest or join one of the others.
Title: Re: No Glory for the Scrappers
Post by: sam on December 11, 2006, 04:21:19 pm
I would call it first rate. 
Title: Did anyone hear about the controversial call in the second overtime?
Post by: sam on December 11, 2006, 04:23:09 pm
Just wondering.

Would you like some cheese with that whine?
Title: Re: Did anyone hear about the controversial call in the second overtime?
Post by: panther_pride on December 11, 2006, 04:24:47 pm
Quote from: sam on December 11, 2006, 04:23:09 pm
Just wondering.

Would you like some cheese with that whine?
BURN
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: softyball on December 11, 2006, 04:26:49 pm
Quote from: jacks07 on December 11, 2006, 04:19:12 pm
To you i say that if you get a good video then you can clearly see that J's knee did not touch the ground until after he had scored. And if it just fell silent because everyone was watchin the jumbotron THEN why did nashville's players start walking off the FIELD!!!  Tell me that one!!

look at your video again and you will see Nashville's coaches herding all of our players back to the sidelines.  If you could miss that, I can only wonder what else you missed?
Title: Re: Did anyone hear about the controversial call in the second overtime?
Post by: stina_ar on December 11, 2006, 04:29:43 pm
beautiful.
Title: Re: Did anyone hear about the controversial call in the second overtime?
Post by: Scrapper Slapper on December 11, 2006, 04:31:09 pm
In which game?
Title: Re: Did anyone hear about the controversial call in the second overtime?
Post by: sam on December 11, 2006, 04:32:49 pm
Oh yeah sorry.  It was in the Nashville vs. Jessieville game. 
Title: Re: Did anyone hear about the controversial call in the second overtime?
Post by: athletic supporter on December 11, 2006, 04:33:44 pm
Quote from: sam on December 11, 2006, 04:32:49 pm
Oh yeah sorry.  It was in the Nashville vs. Jessieville game. 


Don't you mean the Nashville vs. Warren game?
Title: Re: Did anyone hear about the controversial call in the second overtime?
Post by: stina_ar on December 11, 2006, 04:34:37 pm
Quote from: youthguy on December 11, 2006, 04:33:44 pm
Quote from: sam on December 11, 2006, 04:32:49 pm
Oh yeah sorry.  It was in the Nashville vs. Jessieville game. 


Don't you mean the Nashville vs. Warren game?

I thought it was Heber Springs and Greenland....???
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: scrapperfan4ever on December 11, 2006, 04:35:51 pm
The sad thing is that more than likely it wouldn't matter if Nashville had won by 1 point or 1 touchdown, someone would still be complaining about how Warren should have won.  but guess what they didn't so everyone needs to let it go, and congratulate the Nashville players. they played a great game and deserved the win!!!!!
        Way to go Scrappers!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: No Glory for the Scrappers
Post by: scrapperfan4ever on December 11, 2006, 04:43:10 pm
Quote from: jacks07 on December 11, 2006, 04:15:12 pm
The Scrappers can have no pride in their victory over the LUMBERJACKS at war memorial saturday. Any one who was there saw Jarius Wright cross that goal line. Even the nashville fans know that WARREN won that game. And if the boys from nashville can even think about talking like they beat us then they have no shame they know they lost! PLAIN and SIMPLE!!

Actually, they can take pride in their victory.  The boys played their hearts out, and they won the game.  that's all there is to it, now it's time for everyone who is trying to make it seem like they should be ashamed of their VICTORY to get over it.  Warren lost, and Nashville won. that's the facts now it time to accept that


Congratulations SCRAPPERS!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Did anyone hear about the controversial call in the second overtime?
Post by: panther_pride on December 11, 2006, 04:50:14 pm
Quote from: youthguy on December 11, 2006, 04:33:44 pm
Quote from: sam on December 11, 2006, 04:32:49 pm
Oh yeah sorry.  It was in the Nashville vs. Jessieville game. 


Don't you mean the Nashville vs. Warren game?
...
Title: Re: No Glory for the Scrappers
Post by: jacks07 on December 11, 2006, 04:54:08 pm
Quote from: scrapperfan4ever on December 11, 2006, 04:43:10 pm
Quote from: jacks07 on December 11, 2006, 04:15:12 pm
The Scrappers can have no pride in their victory over the LUMBERJACKS at war memorial saturday. Any one who was there saw Jarius Wright cross that goal line. Even the nashville fans know that WARREN won that game. And if the boys from nashville can even think about talking like they beat us then they have no shame they know they lost! PLAIN and SIMPLE!!

Actually, they can take pride in their victory.  The boys played their hearts out, and they won the game.  that's all there is to it, now it's time for everyone who is trying to make it seem like they should be ashamed of their VICTORY to get over it.  Warren lost, and Nashville won. that's the facts now it time to accept that


Congratulations SCRAPPERS!!!!!!!
actually if you were at that game and you saw the megatron then you could see that WARREN won. Its also supposed to be on the news between 5 and 6 on channnel 7
Title: Re: No Glory for the Scrappers
Post by: Radiotalker on December 11, 2006, 04:56:33 pm
If the shoe was on the other foot and the call was GOOD!

Do you think all these scrapper fans would be saying, "yeah, he got in, Warren won, maybe next year"?

I don't think he made it and the official got it right, but it doesn't matter because that what he ruled.
Title: Re: No Glory for the Scrappers
Post by: stina_ar on December 11, 2006, 04:57:33 pm
ACTUALLY, the play stands as called. Nashville should have no reason not to take pride in their trophy. They won the game. It was called and they won. They were named the winners of the game. That's something to take pride in. Its not their faults that Warren got raped. Sorry, better luck next year.
Stop being sore losers. Seriously.

Either join an existing thread or shut the heck up.

CONGRATS TO BOTH WARREN AND NASHVILLE ON YOUR SEASONS!
Title: Re: Did anyone hear about the controversial call in the second overtime?
Post by: sam on December 11, 2006, 05:05:03 pm
I know.  Some people don't get good humor.


Title: Re: No Glory for the Scrappers
Post by: sam on December 11, 2006, 05:07:48 pm
I promise 1 thing.  If the teams were switched I would be telling Nashville to be men about it too.  I'm equal opportunity.  I don't care where you're from, you should have sense. 
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: jacks07 on December 11, 2006, 05:07:50 pm
Quote from: Big Time on December 10, 2006, 01:54:56 pm
Everyone was in Silence because no one knew what the heck!@ was going on. Until the Ref said that Nashville is still your State Champions
Yea and thats why nashville players walked OFF the FIELD!!!
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: shortstuff9219 on December 11, 2006, 05:10:05 pm
Quote from: HornHater on December 10, 2006, 05:34:57 pm
Quote from: shortstuff9219 on December 10, 2006, 04:53:29 pm
Quote from: tradition on December 10, 2006, 04:50:47 pm
Quote from: shortstuff9219 on December 10, 2006, 04:49:17 pm
Quote from: tradition on December 10, 2006, 04:38:50 pm
Quote from: shortstuff9219 on December 10, 2006, 04:38:22 pm
WARREN IS 2006 STATE CHAMPIONS ... EVERYONE KNOWS IT INCLUDING NASHVILLE !!!!!

As I have said a couple of times......PROVE IT CONCLUSIVELY!!!

WE DON'T HAVE TO PROVE IT YALL KNOW THAT WARREN IS STATE CHAMPS SO ACCEPT THAT FACT THAT ITS TRUE... YALL PROVED IT TO YALLSELVES THAT WE WON WHEN THEY SHOWED THE REPLAY AND YALL STOPPED CHEERING... PROLLY CAUSE YALL KNEW YALL HAD LOST !!! JUST CAUSE A REF MAKES A BAD CALL DONT MEAN THAT YALL ARE STATE CHAMPS.. YALL HAVE THE RING TROPHY BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING IF ITS NOT THE TRUTH !!!

You obviously don't understand what it means to score.  The replay didn't show the whole picture.  They should really have an age limit here...or at least one for IQ

I KNOW EXACTLY WAT IT MEANS TO SCORE. YALL DON'T KNOW HOW TO ACCEPT THAT YALL LOST !!! WARREN 14-0 , NASHIVILLE 13-1.... THATS THE TRUTH !!!!!

delusional?

your the one that is delusional .. thinkin yall state champs... Warren is the the Real State Champs
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: jacks07 on December 11, 2006, 05:13:37 pm
To you big time i say that if they was just wondering what the heck was goin on the why did all the nashville players start wlaking OFF the FIELD when they saw the replay?
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: stina_ar on December 11, 2006, 05:15:13 pm
WHO CARES WHO DID WHAT?
NASHVILLE = 2006 STATE CHAMPS

WARREN POSTERS ON THIS BOARD = WHINY, SORE LOSERS


Congrats to both teams.

In 5 years, no one will care about this, except those fans that each town has that never leave and live on past glories.

Congrats, seniors of '07!
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Bruin521 on December 11, 2006, 05:17:07 pm
It's not easy to "get over it" when it's the state title game.  If this was the other way around Nashville and Doug Graham would be complaining so much more than Warren and would try to take this to court or something like that.
Title: Re: No Glory for the Scrappers
Post by: phinupi on December 11, 2006, 05:17:27 pm
Quote from: jacks07 on December 11, 2006, 04:15:12 pm
The Scrappers can have no pride in their victory over the LUMBERJACKS at war memorial saturday. Any one who was there saw Jarius Wright cross that goal line. Even the nashville fans know that WARREN won that game. And if the boys from nashville can even think about talking like they beat us then they have no shame they know they lost! PLAIN and SIMPLE!!


Hey, I was there.  I am not a Warren fan and I am not a Nashville fan.  I had a fine view of the Wright kid when he ran for the endzone.  Yes, the ball broke the plain, but apparantley, the referee did not see the play clearly.  When the play was showed on the big screen, you could clearly see that the ball broke the plain and that he had control of the ball when doing so.  It's just one of those calls that went Nashville's way.  Yes, you guys are the true champions, but Nashville will be on paper as the champs.  This game hurt me to because I hate to see kids get cheated like they did Saturday night.  If I was on Nashville's team, I would be glad to be labeled the champs, but deep in my heart, it would eat at me the rest of my life knowing that the opponent (Warren) really won the game.  Anyway, I know it hurt, but those things happen in sports.
Title: Re: No Glory for the Scrappers
Post by: stina_ar on December 11, 2006, 05:19:01 pm
The rest of your life?
Its a high school football game.
Hopefully these boys have something more important to look forward to (or regret).
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: phinupi on December 11, 2006, 05:30:58 pm
Quote from: scrapdawgof06 on December 10, 2006, 01:20:18 am
To all the whiners saying they got cheated... I was there... only reason we (Nashville) fell silent on that 2 pt. conversion was to see the replay as to where it was good or not, because going by the way it looked... it was too close to call... with my mom standing right beside me... we looked up at the jumbotron right as the Warren player supposedly crossed the plain, it was a 1/2 yard short with the players knee touching the turf before he crossed the plain.. on another note... the ball popped out and Nashville recovered it...

but to the loyal fans of both Nashville and Warren, my god it was loud at WMS... and im freaking hoarse... Congrats to my Scrappers but also, congrats on Warren for giving us our first real test of the season...   may we meet again

The ground cannot ause a fumble.





















































































Scrapdawg

Go Scrappers!
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: phinupi on December 11, 2006, 05:32:24 pm
Quote from: O.T.C on December 10, 2006, 01:55:24 am
Don't be ignorant kid.....The kid had his hands all the way across the line...All the ball has to do is break the plain...not go all the way across it...just break the plain. And the ground can't cause a fumble.

Bottom line is that Warren won the game. If Nashville people can take pride in a stolen state championship....Go for it.

I totally agree with you guys.  Warren's community should have a victory parade for the team.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: phinupi on December 11, 2006, 05:34:50 pm
Quote from: scrapdawgof06 on December 10, 2006, 02:49:38 am
boy i tell ya... i HAD respect for alot of the posters till tonight... the freaking refs are right there... how are you gonna dispute what THEY saw and called not 3-5 yds. in front of them... in a well lit stadium, on what was the game deciding play... I think I would be paying attention to any kind of "break of plane" play that "robbed" Warren.. I havent even been on here two hours and already im sick of the whining...

unfortunately for the ones whining... just because you whine about it, doesnt reverse it

Scrapdawg

Go Scrappers!


WARREN_______STATE 4A CHAMPS

Scrappers 2006 4A State Champs!
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: A JETS MI MONK on December 11, 2006, 05:35:38 pm
"Get over it" is a good song from OKGO
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: shortstuff9219 on December 11, 2006, 05:38:43 pm
Quote from: HornHater on December 10, 2006, 05:34:57 pm
Quote from: shortstuff9219 on December 10, 2006, 04:53:29 pm
Quote from: tradition on December 10, 2006, 04:50:47 pm
Quote from: shortstuff9219 on December 10, 2006, 04:49:17 pm
Quote from: tradition on December 10, 2006, 04:38:50 pm
Quote from: shortstuff9219 on December 10, 2006, 04:38:22 pm
WARREN IS 2006 STATE CHAMPIONS ... EVERYONE KNOWS IT INCLUDING NASHVILLE !!!!!

As I have said a couple of times......PROVE IT CONCLUSIVELY!!!

WE DON'T HAVE TO PROVE IT YALL KNOW THAT WARREN IS STATE CHAMPS SO ACCEPT THAT FACT THAT ITS TRUE... YALL PROVED IT TO YALLSELVES THAT WE WON WHEN THEY SHOWED THE REPLAY AND YALL STOPPED CHEERING... PROLLY CAUSE YALL KNEW YALL HAD LOST !!! JUST CAUSE A REF MAKES A BAD CALL DONT MEAN THAT YALL ARE STATE CHAMPS.. YALL HAVE THE RING TROPHY BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING IF ITS NOT THE TRUTH !!!

You obviously don't understand what it means to score.  The replay didn't show the whole picture.  They should really have an age limit here...or at least one for IQ

I KNOW EXACTLY WAT IT MEANS TO SCORE. YALL DON'T KNOW HOW TO ACCEPT THAT YALL LOST !!! WARREN 14-0 , NASHIVILLE 13-1.... THATS THE TRUTH !!!!!

delusional?

you are the one that is delusional thinkin nashiville is state champs... BS !!!
Title: Re: JUST GOT THROUGH WATCHING FILM AT WARREN FIELDHOUSE
Post by: phinupi on December 11, 2006, 05:43:59 pm
Quote from: Mulerider on December 10, 2006, 02:24:31 pm
Quote from: JACK D BACK 27 on December 10, 2006, 12:26:58 am
HE WAS ACROSS BY AT LEAST TWO FEET AND HE DOVE FROM THE ONE HIS KNEE WAS NEVER CLOSE TO BEING DOWN.  ALSO THE TOUCHDOWN THAT GOT CALLED BACK WHICH THEN IT WOULD OF NEVER WENT TO OVERTIME, THE COACHES ARE STILL TRYING TO SEE WHICH LINEMAN WAS DOWNFIELD.  THE WARREN LINEMAN ARE TAUGHT WHEN BALL IS THROWN GO TO IT ALL FIVE LINEMAN WERE AT THE LINE WHEN THE BALL WAS THROWN.

After seeing the still photo, do you retract your statement about "he was across by at least two feet".  He was down at about the 1.5 yard line and stretching.  Did the ball cross the line before his body was down?  Not likely, the lower half of the body hits before the upper half.  Very close.

Great effort, gutsy call.  Penalties stopped both teams.

One thing is for sure, there is nothing wrong with losing, but to lose the way Warren lost is a disgrace.  On the big screen, it clearly showed Jarious getting into the endzone.
Title: Re: No Glory for the Scrappers
Post by: nvillefan on December 11, 2006, 05:45:44 pm
Make it understood. Wright crossed the plane of the endzone- it just happened to be after his knee hit the ground. People realize that he is down THE INSTANT his knee hits the ground and where the ball is the second his knee hit is where the ball should be placed. It looked like he tried to do some extra stretching like the Super Bowl between Tennessee and St. Louis, except this play was a lot closer than the final play of that Super Bowl.
Title: Re: JUST GOT THROUGH WATCHING FILM AT WARREN FIELDHOUSE
Post by: The-Bookie on December 11, 2006, 05:46:21 pm
Wow, what a travesty.  Well, I don't think anyone expected Nashville to win that game outside their city limits and looks like they got a gift.  Everyone around here knows who the best team in AAAA is, Warren!  Sorry to hear about the call.

Title: Re: No Glory for the Scrappers
Post by: jacks07 on December 11, 2006, 05:50:24 pm
Bull-crap he scored that conversion. u and every-one else from nerdville knows it that is why yall shut up when the replay came on!!
Title: Re: No Glory for the Scrappers
Post by: Bleachermom on December 11, 2006, 05:51:11 pm
Quote from: nvillefan on December 11, 2006, 05:45:44 pm
Make it understood. Wright crossed the plane of the endzone- it just happened to be after his knee hit the ground. People realize that he is down THE INSTANT his knee hits the ground and where the ball is the second his knee hit is where the ball should be placed. It looked like he tried to do some extra stretching like the Super Bowl between Tennessee and St. Louis, except this play was a lot closer than the final play of that Super Bowl.

Nashville is the 2006 4A State Champion, but, it is pretty clear from this new video that the ref made the incorrect call. Check it out. The ref is part of the game, and I'm sure that this isn't the only bad call in that game. Nashville is the Champion, but I think the argument about the last play is now over.

http://www.fearlessfriday.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=61435.msg1241274#msg1241274
Title: Re: JUST GOT THROUGH WATCHING FILM AT WARREN FIELDHOUSE
Post by: Orange rush on December 11, 2006, 06:40:57 pm

Stop crying about the big screen clearly shows...the big screen only gave one angle and you don't even see the lower body.  So silly to refer to a inconclusive picture. "Everyone" did not expect Nashville to lose, only people in warren and hootens, and both of them are wrong most of the time.  Welcome to big boy football lumberjacks, the kind where you physically dominate your opposition.  That's what happened to you on sat. and the refs had nothing to do with those 400 plus rushing yards no did they.

Title: Re: JUST GOT THROUGH WATCHING FILM AT WARREN FIELDHOUSE
Post by: seark66 on December 11, 2006, 06:58:37 pm
Quote from: Orange rush on December 11, 2006, 06:40:57 pmStop crying about the big screen clearly shows...the big screen only gave one angle and you don't even see the lower body.  So silly to refer to a inconclusive picture. "Everyone" did not expect Nashville to lose, only people in warren and hootens, and both of them are wrong most of the time.  Welcome to big boy football lumberjacks, the kind where you physically dominate your opposition.  That's what happened to you on sat. and the refs had nothing to do with those 400 plus rushing yards no did they.

Those 400 yards rushing didn't get you the state title. A terrible call did.
Title: Re: No Glory for the Scrappers
Post by: The Grudge on December 11, 2006, 07:16:21 pm
i have heard all this talk about the back judge calling the play there were players blocking the other 2 refs vision therefore, the only one who got a glimpse of it was the back judge, he called what he saw and he saw Wright just short
Title: Re: Did anyone hear about the controversial call in the second overtime?
Post by: FootballGuy43 on December 11, 2006, 07:36:28 pm
Some people don't understand sarcasm either but that's a whole different tale for another day...
Title: Re: No Glory for the Scrappers
Post by: bradyfan on December 11, 2006, 07:54:39 pm
ok say ur right and we "won" the game, ur telling nashville to not have any pride when Warren had to fight tooth and nail to even bring theirselves back in the game....who else did that to the Lumberjacks this year? None. Nashville has an excellent team as well as the Lumberjacks, and both teams deserve the championship, too bad only one can get it. But the fact of the matter is, the refs made the call, nothing Warren or Nashville could do about it, they won...never be ashamed of a state championship. And just watch out for the Lumberjacks next year....
Title: Amazing How The State Media Won't Touch This With A 10 Foot Pole
Post by: BadDogGHSDogPound on December 11, 2006, 07:54:43 pm
You know if this was college of the NFL..they'd be looking at the footage..it would be on the local sports and written about in the paper, but sadly because it's a high school game they won't even mention the controversy at the end. How hard would it be to get some quotes from the AAA on this?
Title: Re: No Glory for the Scrappers
Post by: FootballGuy43 on December 11, 2006, 08:04:03 pm
Warren has a good team and nothing to be ashamed of. This "bad call" business is getting out of hand. It needs to be put to rest.
Title: Re: Amazing How The State Media Won't Touch This With A 10 Foot Pole
Post by: seark66 on December 11, 2006, 08:07:21 pm
Quote from: Sports_Nutt on December 11, 2006, 08:06:50 pm
Thats what I was saying on another post. No one wants a fight on there hands so no tv station will deal with this thats how it is.

Don't be so sure.
Title: Re: Amazing How The State Media Won't Touch This With A 10 Foot Pole
Post by: FootballGuy43 on December 11, 2006, 08:16:27 pm
The AAA will not bother with this. You figure with the nature of the media, they would eat this up and create a fuss about this whole mess. I'm surprised they have concealed all comments on this game.
Title: Re: No Glory for the Scrappers
Post by: scrapperfan4ever on December 11, 2006, 08:48:02 pm
Quote from: jacks07 on December 11, 2006, 04:54:08 pm
Quote from: scrapperfan4ever on December 11, 2006, 04:43:10 pm
Quote from: jacks07 on December 11, 2006, 04:15:12 pm
The Scrappers can have no pride in their victory over the LUMBERJACKS at war memorial saturday. Any one who was there saw Jarius Wright cross that goal line. Even the nashville fans know that WARREN won that game. And if the boys from nashville can even think about talking like they beat us then they have no shame they know they lost! PLAIN and SIMPLE!!

Actually, they can take pride in their victory.  The boys played their hearts out, and they won the game.  that's all there is to it, now it's time for everyone who is trying to make it seem like they should be ashamed of their VICTORY to get over it.  Warren lost, and Nashville won. that's the facts now it time to accept that


Congratulations SCRAPPERS!!!!!!!
actually if you were at that game and you saw the megatron then you could see that WARREN won. Its also supposed to be on the news between 5 and 6 on channnel 7

see as how you think you know it all, i was at that game...just to fill you in...and last time i checked when i left the stadium NASHVILLE WON!!! now i honestly think it is time for all of the sore losers that are posting crap about our boys, our team, and the refs that called the game, to GET OVER IT...move on with your life....now matter how much you grip and complain it isn't going to change anything!!!!!
Title: Re: Amazing How The State Media Won't Touch This With A 10 Foot Pole
Post by: The_Preacher on December 11, 2006, 09:02:23 pm
 well it's people some-what like yourself that seem to want put themselves above this type of situation; is the why the schools our schools are in as bad a shape as they are because there is no one willing to stand in the gap- wre have stood back and just let  the whole nation go to heck in a hand basket.  nothing personal but that comment  just set me off it's time some stood up.
Title: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: archaic on December 11, 2006, 09:17:30 pm
Here it is:

http://web.mac.com/robertgreggreep/iWeb/Game%20Covers/Home.html

click on State Title Game Winner
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: Big Time on December 11, 2006, 09:19:33 pm
Sorry but all I see is a read X
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: Ringleader on December 11, 2006, 09:24:08 pm
yep thats all i see too.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: archaic on December 11, 2006, 09:25:03 pm
It's up now. Just click on State Title Game Winner to find the pic.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: jackfan1™ on December 11, 2006, 09:27:11 pm
Hum?  You can clearly see turf under him.
Great shot.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: tainted gold on December 11, 2006, 09:33:36 pm
Looks good to me.

Where ya at crappers?

Lets hear why there shouldnt be replay or jumbo-tron at title games.


TAINTED GOLD
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: SCRAPPER MOM#1 on December 11, 2006, 09:35:40 pm
Still the question.? Was the knee down first or was the ball across the plain first?? I still need more proof myself.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: BadDogGHSDogPound on December 11, 2006, 09:36:00 pm
That is without a doubt evidence the 2-point was good..you can clearly see ground below him as he's layed out and the ball is across the goal line.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: jackfan1™ on December 11, 2006, 09:38:12 pm
Quote from: SCRAPPER MOM#1 on December 11, 2006, 09:35:40 pm
Still the question.? Was the knee down first or was the ball across the plain first?? I still need more proof myself.

I don't think he has the ability to levitate. He had to down the ball first since he still has air under him in this shot.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: panther_pride on December 11, 2006, 09:39:46 pm
Quote from: SCRAPPER MOM#1 on December 11, 2006, 09:35:40 pm
Still the question.? Was the knee down first or was the ball across the plain first?? I still need more proof myself.
The ball is in across the goalline, and his knees are off the ground.  :-X
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: tainted gold on December 11, 2006, 09:40:47 pm
Quote from: SCRAPPER MOM#1 on December 11, 2006, 09:35:40 pm
Still the question.? Was the knee down first or was the ball across the plain first?? I still need more proof myself.

Lets see...
His knee isnt down.
The ball is across the goal line.
THE 2 POINT CONVERSION IS GOOD!!
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: Sarcasmrules on December 11, 2006, 09:42:51 pm
I don't need any because I saw the replay on the jumbo tron. It was good. Get em next year Jacks. See yall later. Jacks Rule and are #1 in my book.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: A JETS MI MONK on December 11, 2006, 09:43:17 pm
Quote from: jackfan1 on December 11, 2006, 09:38:12 pm
Quote from: SCRAPPER MOM#1 on December 11, 2006, 09:35:40 pm
Still the question.? Was the knee down first or was the ball across the plain first?? I still need more proof myself.

I don't think he has the ability to levitate. He had to down the ball first since he still has air under him in this shot.

That was a hilarious response.  I'm still laughing.
Title: Re: No Glory for the Scrappers
Post by: A JETS MI MONK on December 11, 2006, 09:44:38 pm
Quote from: Ringleader on December 11, 2006, 09:37:14 pm
yall lost fair and square.

Really?
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: Ringleader on December 11, 2006, 09:44:42 pm
why is the leg closes to the ground look so small? could it be that it is on the ground. there is no way one leg is huge and the other is smaller than his arm. and u cant even see his knees so shut up about it.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: BadDogGHSDogPound on December 11, 2006, 09:45:45 pm
I don't care who the AAAA champ is, so I don't have a fight in this, but from what I've seen it was good. The Warren school district should raise as much noise about this as they can.

Either replay the game..or give them both titles and just put and astricks in the record book.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: The critic on December 11, 2006, 09:46:09 pm
Somebody needs to blow this picture up and send it to Nashville.  Noway can they be proud of that trophy after seeing this picture.  Cannot believe that miss this call.  That is ridiculous. 

Warren Lumberjacks
2006 State Champions
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: A JETS MI MONK on December 11, 2006, 09:46:22 pm
Quote from: Ringleader on December 11, 2006, 09:44:42 pm
why is the leg closes to the ground look so small? could it be that it is on the ground. there is no way one leg is huge and the other is smaller than his arm. and u cant even see his knees so shut up about it.

Can't you see his shadow underneath his legs?
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: SCRAPPER MOM#1 on December 11, 2006, 09:48:18 pm
Well I guess if we put the ktbs footage with this footage we may be able to see if he was able to levitate or if the knee was down? Just my thought on the whole thing. Not that it matters at this point with all the other post about the game. And I don't see air under him or him on the ground just my thoughts. That was the reason for my question knee down before or not.. Thanks
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: jackfan1™ on December 11, 2006, 09:48:59 pm
Quote from: Ringleader on December 11, 2006, 09:44:42 pm
why is the leg closes to the ground look so small? could it be that it is on the ground. there is no way one leg is huge and the other is smaller than his arm. and u cant even see his knees so shut up about it.

You know that guy #54 that tackled him? That appears to be his big old hand on the left knee, so no, you can't see that one. Not sure what you are looking at but both legs are the same size. Also, you can even see his shadow. C'mon.....a picture is worth a thousand words.
Title: Re: No Glory for the Scrappers
Post by: Big Time on December 11, 2006, 09:49:30 pm
I hate to disagree with you because you are a fellow Nashville fan but Bryan Church is one of the best defensive players I have ever seen and that includes Nashvilles Kadem Ray from last year. That dude was EVERYWERE in that game, the way he played was unreal.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: AirWarren on December 11, 2006, 09:50:02 pm
thank you... ive tried to tell so many people about the shadow...
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: A JETS MI MONK on December 11, 2006, 09:50:35 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on December 11, 2006, 09:50:02 pm
thank you... ive tried to tell so many people about the shadow...

I still don't like you, but you're welcome.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: SCRAPPER MOM#1 on December 11, 2006, 09:50:51 pm
Quote from: jackfan1 on December 11, 2006, 09:48:59 pm
Quote from: Ringleader on December 11, 2006, 09:44:42 pm
why is the leg closes to the ground look so small? could it be that it is on the ground. there is no way one leg is huge and the other is smaller than his arm. and u cant even see his knees so shut up about it.

You know that guy #54 that tackled him? That appears to be his big old hand on the left knee, so no, you can't see that one. Not sure what you are looking at but both legs are the same size. Also, you can even see his shadow. C'mon.....a picture is worth a thousand words.

A close up picture with all angles would be worth more than that at this point.
Title: I am calling out Scrapper Fans/Players/Coaches/Admin and those Blind Refs
Post by: RD™ on December 11, 2006, 09:51:38 pm
How did you get up Sunday morning and look at yourself in the mirror? The rest of the state has seen it, they know, apparently the truth is blind to you, and you can't see past your orange colored glasses.

Head Coach Billy Dawson should do the right thing and give the trophy back to the AAA, how someone can even accept a tainted title is beyond me. For those that have Nashville Back 2 Back Champs in your signature, you should be ashamed, you're not the champions, you know it deep, deep, deep down in your heart.

To those Referees, turn your stripes in, and your whistles, you suck at life. Get another spare time job flipping burgers at McDonalds and asking "would you like more fries with that?". Because that is all you're qualified to do.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: tainted gold on December 11, 2006, 09:52:17 pm
Quote from: SCRAPPER MOM#1 on December 11, 2006, 09:48:18 pm
Well I guess if we put the ktbs footage with this footage we may be able to see if he was able to levitate or if the knee was down? Just my thought on the whole thing. Not that it matters at this point with all the other post about the game. And I don't see air under him or him on the ground just my thoughts. That was the reason for my question knee down before or not.. Thanks


You like every other Nashville fan knows he was in. I can promise you this picture will be at NHS tomorrow morning.
Title: Re: No Glory for the Scrappers
Post by: SCRAPPER MOM#1 on December 11, 2006, 09:54:36 pm
Quote from: Big Time on December 11, 2006, 09:49:30 pm
I hate to disagree with you because you are a fellow Nashville fan but Bryan Church is one of the best defensive players I have ever seen and that includes Nashvilles Kadem Ray from last year. That dude was EVERYWERE in that game, the way he played was unreal.

I don't know about comparing him to Kadem but yes, Mr. Church put the Warren team on his shoulder pad's and carried them in this game. IMO.
Title: Re: I am calling out Scrapper Fans/Players/Coaches/Admin and those Blind Refs
Post by: A JETS MI MONK on December 11, 2006, 09:55:04 pm
Quote from: Vice President RD on December 11, 2006, 09:51:38 pm
How did you get up Sunday morning and look at yourself in the mirror? The rest of the state has seen it, they know, apparently the truth is blind to you, and you can't see past your orange colored glasses.

Head Coach Billy Dawson should do the right thing and give the trophy back to the AAA, how someone can even accept a tainted title is beyond me. For those that have Nashville Back 2 Back Champs in your signature, you should be ashamed, you're not the champions, you know it deep, deep, deep down in your heart.

To those Referees, turn your stripes in, and your whistles, you suck at life. Get another spare time job flipping burgers at McDonalds and asking "would you like more fries with that?". Because that is all you're qualified to do.


I realize that you're angry, but it's just high school football.  It's not like they shot the Pope or anything.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: tainted gold on December 11, 2006, 09:55:33 pm
Quote from: SCRAPPER MOM#1 on December 11, 2006, 09:50:51 pm
Quote from: jackfan1 on December 11, 2006, 09:48:59 pm
Quote from: Ringleader on December 11, 2006, 09:44:42 pm
why is the leg closes to the ground look so small? could it be that it is on the ground. there is no way one leg is huge and the other is smaller than his arm. and u cant even see his knees so shut up about it.

You know that guy #54 that tackled him? That appears to be his big old hand on the left knee, so no, you can't see that one. Not sure what you are looking at but both legs are the same size. Also, you can even see his shadow. C'mon.....a picture is worth a thousand words.

A close up picture with all angles would be worth more than that at this point.

Quit making excuses tell ya kid to send his ring to Warren.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: SCRAPPER MOM#1 on December 11, 2006, 09:56:44 pm
Quote from: tainted gold on December 11, 2006, 09:52:17 pm
Quote from: SCRAPPER MOM#1 on December 11, 2006, 09:48:18 pm
Well I guess if we put the ktbs footage with this footage we may be able to see if he was able to levitate or if the knee was down? Just my thought on the whole thing. Not that it matters at this point with all the other post about the game. And I don't see air under him or him on the ground just my thoughts. That was the reason for my question knee down before or not.. Thanks


You like every other Nashville fan knows he was in. I can promise you this picture will be at NHS tomorrow morning.

No I'm sorry to tell you that I don't know if he was or was not. I was watching the field not the big screen as it seems so many others were.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: Villa07 on December 11, 2006, 09:57:49 pm
Alright, i'm a nashville fan and in the picture in the link on the first post it looks as though the conversion was good.......

BUT CAN YOU SAY, "SECOND ATTEMPT"

There are also numerous pictures of his knee DOWN BEFORE the ball crossed the plain...
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: BadDogGHSDogPound on December 11, 2006, 09:58:38 pm
Dawson should do the right thing and give Warren the title.
Title: Re: No Glory for the Scrappers
Post by: dc24 on December 11, 2006, 09:58:45 pm
Quote from: SCRAPPER MOM#1 on December 11, 2006, 09:54:36 pm
Quote from: Big Time on December 11, 2006, 09:49:30 pm
I hate to disagree with you because you are a fellow Nashville fan but Bryan Church is one of the best defensive players I have ever seen and that includes Nashvilles Kadem Ray from last year. That dude was EVERYWERE in that game, the way he played was unreal.

I don't know about comparing him to Kadem but yes, Mr. Church put the Warren team on his shoulder pad's and carried them in this game. IMO.

I don't agree with that.  Byran is a great player, but he is no means the only player on that defense.  #31 Antwain Harris MLB and Kris Tatum #40 OLB both had great games.  #22 Blake Harris had a great game as well.  Our DLine was one of our main weaknesses in the game, we got dominated up front for the better part of the game.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: SCRAPPER MOM#1 on December 11, 2006, 10:00:02 pm
Quote from: BadDogGHSDogPound on December 11, 2006, 09:58:38 pm
Dawson should do the right thing and give Warren the title.



That is so funny that my side is still hurting from laughing so hard.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: Villa07 on December 11, 2006, 10:00:07 pm
Quote from: BadDogGHSDogPound on December 11, 2006, 09:58:38 pm
Dawson should do the right thing and give Warren the title.

that might be the stupidest post i've seen yet
Title: Re: I am calling out Scrapper Fans/Players/Coaches/Admin and those Blind Refs
Post by: JackStar on December 11, 2006, 10:00:09 pm
Quote from: Vice President RD on December 11, 2006, 09:51:38 pm
How did you get up Sunday morning and look at yourself in the mirror? The rest of the state has seen it, they know, apparently the truth is blind to you, and you can't see past your orange colored glasses.

Head Coach Billy Dawson should do the right thing and give the trophy back to the AAA, how someone can even accept a tainted title is beyond me. For those that have Nashville Back 2 Back Champs in your signature, you should be ashamed, you're not the champions, you know it deep, deep, deep down in your heart.

To those Referees, turn your stripes in, and your whistles, you suck at life. Get another spare time job flipping burgers at McDonalds and asking "would you like more fries with that?". Because that is all you're qualified to do.

Couldn't have said it better myself... and no folks...he's not a lumberjack fan
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: Bleachermom on December 11, 2006, 10:00:51 pm
Quote from: Villa07 on December 11, 2006, 09:57:49 pm
Alright, i'm a nashville fan and in the picture in the link on the first post it looks as though the conversion was good.......

BUT CAN YOU SAY, "SECOND ATTEMPT"

There are also numerous pictures of his knee DOWN BEFORE the ball crossed the plain...

Where?
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: A JETS MI MONK on December 11, 2006, 10:01:10 pm
Quote from: tainted gold on December 11, 2006, 09:55:33 pm
Quote from: SCRAPPER MOM#1 on December 11, 2006, 09:50:51 pm
Quote from: jackfan1 on December 11, 2006, 09:48:59 pm
Quote from: Ringleader on December 11, 2006, 09:44:42 pm
why is the leg closes to the ground look so small? could it be that it is on the ground. there is no way one leg is huge and the other is smaller than his arm. and u cant even see his knees so shut up about it.

You know that guy #54 that tackled him? That appears to be his big old hand on the left knee, so no, you can't see that one. Not sure what you are looking at but both legs are the same size. Also, you can even see his shadow. C'mon.....a picture is worth a thousand words.

A close up picture with all angles would be worth more than that at this point.

Quit making excuses tell ya kid to send his ring to Warren.

Wouldn't that be funny if someone from Nashville did send their ring to Warren?
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: jackfan1™ on December 11, 2006, 10:01:17 pm
Quote from: Villa07 on December 11, 2006, 09:57:49 pm
Alright, i'm a nashville fan and in the picture in the link on the first post it looks as though the conversion was good.......

BUT CAN YOU SAY, "SECOND ATTEMPT"

There are also numerous pictures of his knee DOWN BEFORE the ball crossed the plain...

So he touched in, got up, touched in and fell back down?

No wonder the ref didn't know what he was seeing. ::)
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: A JETS MI MONK on December 11, 2006, 10:02:21 pm
Quote from: Bleachermom on December 11, 2006, 10:00:51 pm
Quote from: Villa07 on December 11, 2006, 09:57:49 pm
Alright, i'm a nashville fan and in the picture in the link on the first post it looks as though the conversion was good.......

BUT CAN YOU SAY, "SECOND ATTEMPT"

There are also numerous pictures of his knee DOWN BEFORE the ball crossed the plain...

Where?

I think she's talking about the picture that was a screencap from the blury video that was on here yesterday.  I think I got a tumor just staring at the thing.
Title: Re: Watch it for yourself.
Post by: Big Time on December 11, 2006, 10:02:59 pm
Dang you no what ??? last year we lost 24 and guess what 22 the year befor that and guess what 20 the year before that. And i will give you one more guess.......... yep thats right we will have over 20 seniors agian next year. 23 to be exact. In Nashville haveing 20+ seniors is a VERY common thing in fact if you do not have at least 20 senior football players you are considerded a SMALL senior class. I can't even remember when Nashville had a senior class without at least 20 senior football players.
Title: Re: I am calling out Scrapper Fans/Players/Coaches/Admin and those Blind Refs
Post by: RD™ on December 11, 2006, 10:03:44 pm
I am a fan of the game, and a hater of the Arkansas Activities Assoication, they are dumbest group of people in Arkansas behind the Murray State Mafia.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: Ringleader on December 11, 2006, 10:04:09 pm
Quote from: jackfan1 on December 11, 2006, 09:48:59 pm
Quote from: Ringleader on December 11, 2006, 09:44:42 pm
why is the leg closes to the ground look so small? could it be that it is on the ground. there is no way one leg is huge and the other is smaller than his arm. and u cant even see his knees so shut up about it.

You know that guy #54 that tackled him? That appears to be his big old hand on the left knee, so no, you can't see that one. Not sure what you are looking at but both legs are the same size. Also, you can even see his shadow. C'mon.....a picture is worth a thousand words.

yeah and your mouth isnt worth anything
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: jackfan1™ on December 11, 2006, 10:05:13 pm
Quote from: Ringleader on December 11, 2006, 10:04:09 pm
Quote from: jackfan1 on December 11, 2006, 09:48:59 pm
Quote from: Ringleader on December 11, 2006, 09:44:42 pm
why is the leg closes to the ground look so small? could it be that it is on the ground. there is no way one leg is huge and the other is smaller than his arm. and u cant even see his knees so shut up about it.

You know that guy #54 that tackled him? That appears to be his big old hand on the left knee, so no, you can't see that one. Not sure what you are looking at but both legs are the same size. Also, you can even see his shadow. C'mon.....a picture is worth a thousand words.

yeah and your mouth isnt worth anything

How would you know?
Title: Re: I am calling out Scrapper Fans/Players/Coaches/Admin and those Blind Refs
Post by: A JETS MI MONK on December 11, 2006, 10:06:46 pm
What is the Murray State Mafia?  Someone PM me if they don't feel like being public about it.  PLEASE.
Title: Re: I am calling out Scrapper Fans/Players/Coaches/Admin and those Blind Refs
Post by: A JETS MI MONK on December 11, 2006, 10:07:44 pm
Quote from: Ringleader on December 11, 2006, 10:05:52 pm
im calling you out
It's good to see that you're putting that Harvard education to good use.
Title: Re: I am calling out Scrapper Fans/Players/Coaches/Admin and those Blind Refs
Post by: Villa07 on December 11, 2006, 10:08:13 pm
hey i understand why your mad....you lost...its simple as that.

i personally think that it was a great call. nobody had a better view than that ref. he was only a couple feet away. you have NO RIGHT to argue w/ his call.

and Vice President RD, you should be ashamed of yourself for writing what you did....from reading that, i can tell that you are an immature sore loser

and as the great forest gump said, "thats all i've got to say about that"
Title: Re: I am calling out Scrapper Fans/Players/Coaches/Admin and those Blind Refs
Post by: A JETS MI MONK on December 11, 2006, 10:09:22 pm
Quote from: Villa07 on December 11, 2006, 10:08:13 pm
hey i understand why your mad....you lost...its simple as that.

i personally think that it was a great call. nobody had a better view than that ref. he was only a couple feet away. you have NO RIGHT to argue w/ his call.

and Vice President RD, you should be ashamed of yourself for writing what you did....from reading that, i can tell that you are an immature sore loser

and as the great forest gump said, "thats all i've got to say about that"

It was a great call if you're a Nashville fan.  If you're a Warren fan or couldn't care less for either team, not so much.
Title: Re: I am calling out Scrapper Fans/Players/Coaches/Admin and those Blind Refs
Post by: jackfan1™ on December 11, 2006, 10:10:02 pm
Quote from: Villa07 on December 11, 2006, 10:08:13 pm
hey i understand why your mad....you lost...its simple as that.

i personally think that it was a great call. nobody had a better view than that ref. he was only a couple feet away. you have NO RIGHT to argue w/ his call.

and Vice President RD, you should be ashamed of yourself for writing what you did....from reading that, i can tell that you are an immature sore loser

and as the great forest gump said, "thats all i've got to say about that"

RD is from Greenwood, NOT Warren.

Anything else?
Title: Re: I am calling out Scrapper Fans/Players/Coaches/Admin and those Blind Refs
Post by: RD™ on December 11, 2006, 10:10:15 pm
Once again I will state I am not a fan of the Scrappers/Lumberjacks or anyother 4A school. I am a Greenwood fan, but most importantly a fan of the game, and the integrity was violated Saturday night in War Memorial Stadium
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: seark66 on December 11, 2006, 10:10:43 pm
Quote from: Villa07 on December 11, 2006, 09:57:49 pm
Alright, i'm a nashville fan and in the picture in the link on the first post it looks as though the conversion was good.......

BUT CAN YOU SAY, "SECOND ATTEMPT"

There are also numerous pictures of his knee DOWN BEFORE the ball crossed the plain...

If you watch the video posted by Intangible you will see there was no "second attempt". He was in.
Title: Re: I am calling out Scrapper Fans/Players/Coaches/Admin and those Blind Refs
Post by: Eddie Goodson on December 11, 2006, 10:11:31 pm
The title is in Nashville to stay right or wrong. All this arguing back and forth is best summed up by the video link below.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbZFU7X3Qjo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbZFU7X3Qjo)
Title: Re: I am calling out Scrapper Fans/Players/Coaches/Admin and those Blind Refs
Post by: SCRAPPER MOM#1 on December 11, 2006, 10:11:56 pm
Quote from: Vice President RD on December 11, 2006, 10:10:15 pm
Once again I will state I am not a fan of the Scrappers/Lumberjacks or anyother 4A school. I am a Greenwood fan, but most importantly a fan of the game, and the integrity was violated Saturday night in War Memorial Stadium

And again it was not by the Scrapper players, coaches nor the fans.
Title: Re: I am calling out Scrapper Fans/Players/Coaches/Admin and those Blind Refs
Post by: Ringleader on December 11, 2006, 10:12:37 pm
rd you dont know what ur talking about cause on another post you say he was down on the very first post. once again im calling out your mouth.
Title: Re: I am calling out Scrapper Fans/Players/Coaches/Admin and those Blind Refs
Post by: jackfan1™ on December 11, 2006, 10:12:46 pm
Quote from: Eddie Goodson on December 11, 2006, 10:11:31 pm
The title is in Nashville to stay right or wrong. All this arguing back and forth is best summed up by the video link below.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbZFU7X3Qjo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbZFU7X3Qjo)

I see you found it. Did you find your picture of the world's largest wheel of cheese too?

Title: Re: I am calling out Scrapper Fans/Players/Coaches/Admin and those Blind Refs
Post by: Big Time on December 11, 2006, 10:12:47 pm
I am a believer in photoshop, by the way RD how many times are you going to change you mind about this game?
Title: Re: I am calling out Scrapper Fans/Players/Coaches/Admin and those Blind Refs
Post by: A JETS MI MONK on December 11, 2006, 10:12:56 pm
Quote from: Eddie Goodson on December 11, 2006, 10:11:31 pm
The title is in Nashville to stay right or wrong. All this arguing back and forth is best summed up by the video link below.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbZFU7X3Qjo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbZFU7X3Qjo)

That movie is so stupid.  One of his worsts.  I love Ghostbusters though.
Title: Re: I am calling out Scrapper Fans/Players/Coaches/Admin and those Blind Refs
Post by: RD™ on December 11, 2006, 10:13:32 pm
That photograph yesterday, said one thing, actual CLOSE REAL video footage today reveals a better and more accurate angle, the ball crossed, the refs blew it.
Title: Re: I am calling out Scrapper Fans/Players/Coaches/Admin and those Blind Refs
Post by: SCRAPPER MOM#1 on December 11, 2006, 10:14:11 pm
Quote from: Big Time on December 11, 2006, 10:12:47 pm
I am a believer in photoshop, by the way RD how many times are you going to change you mind about this game?

That is what I would like to know myself Big Time.. WELLL RD???
Title: Re: I am calling out Scrapper Fans/Players/Coaches/Admin and those Blind Refs
Post by: seark66 on December 11, 2006, 10:15:12 pm
Quote from: Vice President RD on December 11, 2006, 10:10:15 pm
Once again I will state I am not a fan of the Scrappers/Lumberjacks or anyother 4A school. I am a Greenwood fan, but most importantly a fan of the game, and the integrity was violated Saturday night in War Memorial Stadium

Exactly. That's the point of all this. It wouldn't matter if the ballgame saw Hartford play Hermitage...you don't absolutely blow a call on the biggest stage of a state championship game and expect people to keep quite about it. This is an unacceptable situation.

...and for those of you accusing RD of being a Warren fan and Nashville hater and all that (if it hasn't happen, it will.) He is one of the select few people on this board who will give it to you straight, without being blinded by bias.
Title: Re: I am calling out Scrapper Fans/Players/Coaches/Admin and those Blind Refs
Post by: Villa07 on December 11, 2006, 10:15:20 pm
Quote from: Jake Timmons:  Bounty Hunter on December 11, 2006, 10:09:22 pm
Quote from: Villa07 on December 11, 2006, 10:08:13 pm
hey i understand why your mad....you lost...its simple as that.

i personally think that it was a great call. nobody had a better view than that ref. he was only a couple feet away. you have NO RIGHT to argue w/ his call.

and Vice President RD, you should be ashamed of yourself for writing what you did....from reading that, i can tell that you are an immature sore loser

and as the great forest gump said, "thats all i've got to say about that"

It was a great call if you're a Nashville fan.  If you're a Warren fan or couldn't care less for either team, not so much.

its sad to see that you cant just accept the fact that he was down...ive seen the picture that warren is passing around and that was his SECOND ATTEMP.... if you would take time to look at something other than what is what you WANT to see you would see that the knee was down..... numerous pictures and video show this fact....and for that matter, een the warren spotter admitted that he was down, the nashville and warren spotters reviewed the play several times in slow motion DIRECTLY AFTER THE GAME. i suggest you talk to him before posting any more crap about how yall got cheated...

NASHVILLE SCRAPPERS   -   STATE CHAMPIONS   -   AGAIN!!!
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: archaic on December 11, 2006, 10:16:16 pm
Quote from: Villa07 on December 11, 2006, 09:57:49 pm
Alright, i'm a nashville fan and in the picture in the link on the first post it looks as though the conversion was good.......

BUT CAN YOU SAY, "SECOND ATTEMPT"

There are also numerous pictures of his knee DOWN BEFORE the ball crossed the plain...

You find them and you post them. Like seark66 said.........Watch the video. There was no second attempt.
Title: Re: I am calling out Scrapper Fans/Players/Coaches/Admin and those Blind Refs
Post by: Romeo on December 11, 2006, 10:16:45 pm
Quote from: Vice President RD on December 11, 2006, 09:51:38 pm
How did you get up Sunday morning and look at yourself in the mirror? The rest of the state has seen it, they know, apparently the truth is blind to you, and you can't see past your orange colored glasses.

Head Coach Billy Dawson should do the right thing and give the trophy back to the AAA, how someone can even accept a tainted title is beyond me. For those that have Nashville Back 2 Back Champs in your signature, you should be ashamed, you're not the champions, you know it deep, deep, deep down in your heart.

To those Referees, turn your stripes in, and your whistles, you suck at life. Get another spare time job flipping burgers at McDonalds and asking "would you like more fries with that?". Because that is all you're qualified to do.


This was a poster that agreed that he didnt get in for the last two days, now this. after the video that showed INDISPUTABLE evidence and the picture that showed INDISPUTABLE evidence its clear that the only people in the state who think he didnt get in is CASHville.
Title: Re: I am calling out Scrapper Fans/Players/Coaches/Admin and those Blind Refs
Post by: archaic on December 11, 2006, 10:17:17 pm
Quote from: Villa07 on December 11, 2006, 10:15:20 pm
Quote from: Jake Timmons:  Bounty Hunter on December 11, 2006, 10:09:22 pm
Quote from: Villa07 on December 11, 2006, 10:08:13 pm
hey i understand why your mad....you lost...its simple as that.

i personally think that it was a great call. nobody had a better view than that ref. he was only a couple feet away. you have NO RIGHT to argue w/ his call.

and Vice President RD, you should be ashamed of yourself for writing what you did....from reading that, i can tell that you are an immature sore loser

and as the great forest gump said, "thats all i've got to say about that"

It was a great call if you're a Nashville fan.  If you're a Warren fan or couldn't care less for either team, not so much.

its sad to see that you cant just accept the fact that he was down...ive seen the picture that warren is passing around and that was his SECOND ATTEMP.... if you would take time to look at something other than what is what you WANT to see you would see that the knee was down..... numerous pictures and video show this fact....and for that matter, een the warren spotter admitted that he was down, the nashville and warren spotters reviewed the play several times in slow motion DIRECTLY AFTER THE GAME. i suggest you talk to him before posting any more crap about how yall got cheated...

NASHVILLE SCRAPPERS   -   STATE CHAMPIONS   -   AGAIN!!!

Watch the video......there was no second attempt.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: butamare1 on December 11, 2006, 10:17:28 pm
Warren wins...Warren wins..Warren wins..Come on Nashville Coach do the right thing and give the troghy to Warren.Show the real meaning of CLASS.
Title: Re: I am calling out Scrapper Fans/Players/Coaches/Admin and those Blind Refs
Post by: Eddie Goodson on December 11, 2006, 10:17:36 pm
Quote from: jackfan1 on December 11, 2006, 10:12:46 pm
Quote from: Eddie Goodson on December 11, 2006, 10:11:31 pm
The title is in Nashville to stay right or wrong. All this arguing back and forth is best summed up by the video link below.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbZFU7X3Qjo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbZFU7X3Qjo)

I see you found it. Did you find your picture of the world's largest wheel of cheese too?


Not yet. There's enough whine on here though to give the Mormon Tabernacle Choir alcohol poisoning.
Title: Re: I am calling out Scrapper Fans/Players/Coaches/Admin and those Blind Refs
Post by: jackfan1™ on December 11, 2006, 10:17:41 pm
Quote from: SCRAPPER MOM#1 on December 11, 2006, 10:14:11 pm
Quote from: Big Time on December 11, 2006, 10:12:47 pm
I am a believer in photoshop, by the way RD how many times are you going to change you mind about this game?

That is what I would like to know myself Big Time.. WELLL RD???

It truly does not matter how many times he changes his mind. The pictures and videos do not lie.
It is not that anyone blames the players or fans....but it IS the fans that are denying the game was not won fairly, even when given plain-as-day proof. Just put the shoe on the other foot and try to imagine how YOU would feel.
Title: Re: I am calling out Scrapper Fans/Players/Coaches/Admin and those Blind Refs
Post by: dc24 on December 11, 2006, 10:18:31 pm
Quote from: Villa07 on December 11, 2006, 10:15:20 pm
Quote from: Jake Timmons:  Bounty Hunter on December 11, 2006, 10:09:22 pm
Quote from: Villa07 on December 11, 2006, 10:08:13 pm
hey i understand why your mad....you lost...its simple as that.

i personally think that it was a great call. nobody had a better view than that ref. he was only a couple feet away. you have NO RIGHT to argue w/ his call.

and Vice President RD, you should be ashamed of yourself for writing what you did....from reading that, i can tell that you are an immature sore loser

and as the great forest gump said, "thats all i've got to say about that"

It was a great call if you're a Nashville fan.  If you're a Warren fan or couldn't care less for either team, not so much.

its sad to see that you cant just accept the fact that he was down...ive seen the picture that warren is passing around and that was his SECOND ATTEMP.... if you would take time to look at something other than what is what you WANT to see you would see that the knee was down..... numerous pictures and video show this fact....and for that matter, een the warren spotter admitted that he was down, the nashville and warren spotters reviewed the play several times in slow motion DIRECTLY AFTER THE GAME. i suggest you talk to him before posting any more crap about how yall got cheated...

NASHVILLE SCRAPPERS   -   STATE CHAMPIONS   -   AGAIN!!!

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v348/BPMdotEXE/Random/O_RLY.jpg)[
Title: Re: I am calling out Scrapper Fans/Players/Coaches/Admin and those Blind Refs
Post by: seark66 on December 11, 2006, 10:18:33 pm
Quote from: Villa07 on December 11, 2006, 10:15:20 pmits sad to see that you cant just accept the fact that he was down...ive seen the picture that warren is passing around and that was his SECOND ATTEMP.... if you would take time to look at something other than what is what you WANT to see you would see that the knee was down..... numerous pictures and video show this fact....and for that matter, een the warren spotter admitted that he was down, the nashville and warren spotters reviewed the play several times in slow motion DIRECTLY AFTER THE GAME. i suggest you talk to him before posting any more crap about how yall got cheated...

NASHVILLE SCRAPPERS   -   STATE CHAMPIONS   -   AGAIN!!!

No pictures or video showed his knee down. They were blurred photos with speculation as to where his knee and the ball was.

No Warren spotter said he was down, I can promise you that.
Title: Re: I am calling out Scrapper Fans/Players/Coaches/Admin and those Blind Refs
Post by: jackfan1™ on December 11, 2006, 10:19:29 pm
Quote from: Eddie Goodson on December 11, 2006, 10:17:36 pm
Quote from: jackfan1 on December 11, 2006, 10:12:46 pm
Quote from: Eddie Goodson on December 11, 2006, 10:11:31 pm
The title is in Nashville to stay right or wrong. All this arguing back and forth is best summed up by the video link below.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbZFU7X3Qjo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbZFU7X3Qjo)

I see you found it. Did you find your picture of the world's largest wheel of cheese too?


Not yet. There's enough whine on here though to give the Mormon Tabernacle Choir alcohol poisoning.

Oh well, you have to admit, it  would be coming from ANY school that lost the title game on a lousy call. No one is immune to passion and emotion.
You know what they say, "This too shall pass...."
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: archaic on December 11, 2006, 10:20:12 pm
I'm not saying that. However, I have heard of dual Championship teams. It's not right to rip the hearts of the Nashville kids by taking back what has already been given to them. Although it is apparent they didn't win.
Title: Re: I am calling out Scrapper Fans/Players/Coaches/Admin and those Blind Refs
Post by: softballash25 on December 11, 2006, 10:21:01 pm
If the shoe was on the other foot.........would Warren give the trophy back because everyone else thought it was the right thing to do?        NOT
Title: Re: I am calling out Scrapper Fans/Players/Coaches/Admin and those Blind Refs
Post by: RD™ on December 11, 2006, 10:21:23 pm
Yes Folks I know I posted these pictures:

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a349/RDGraphics/knee.jpg)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a349/RDGraphics/reup.jpg)


However, when I logged on today and intangible told me he had concrete video footage (the Google video) I watched it and my opinion clearly changed. The Reason why I said he looked down in those pictures is simply because, there was not enough indisputable evidence to overturn the decision.

Today there was, and that is my reasoning for this post.

If the shoe was on the other foot, I want Scrapper fans answer on this, how would you act?
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: Sweet on December 11, 2006, 10:21:34 pm
As much pleasure as I get out of badgering my Lil Pumpkin Scraps my conscience wont let me sleep til I say this:

Look at the first page. This guy photoshops Madden covers. Need I say more?
Title: Re: I am calling out Scrapper Fans/Players/Coaches/Admin and those Blind Refs
Post by: Bleachermom on December 11, 2006, 10:21:54 pm
Quote from: SCRAPPER MOM#1 on December 11, 2006, 10:11:56 pm
Quote from: Vice President RD on December 11, 2006, 10:10:15 pm
Once again I will state I am not a fan of the Scrappers/Lumberjacks or anyother 4A school. I am a Greenwood fan, but most importantly a fan of the game, and the integrity was violated Saturday night in War Memorial Stadium

And again it was not by the Scrapper players, coaches nor the fans.

You are correct. The Scrappers are the 2006 State Champions fair and square...or as fair and square as life permits. The refs are part of the game...the refs made a bad call on the last play and probably several more one way or the other during the game. That does not change the fact that the Scrappers won the game. I think that the Nashville faithful would find this thing ending, and they would look more honorable if they would view the video and still shots provided today and go ahead and acknowledge that a bad call was made. That acknowledgement would not lessen or taint their championship in anyway because...the refs are part of each and every game...and they are human. This was an extraordinarily close call and the officials could not see the air or the shadow under the Lumberjack player. They had to make the call in an instant. In this case, technology has caused a huge problem. Without the jumbotron and the ability to analyze film and photos digitally, this thing would have been over 5 minutes after the game. Both teams had exceptional seasons, and this was an exceptional game. You are robbing all the players of wonderful memories by focusing on this one play. The refs are part of the game. In this case, sad, but true.
Title: Re: I am calling out Scrapper Fans/Players/Coaches/Admin and those Blind Refs
Post by: jackfan1™ on December 11, 2006, 10:22:04 pm
Quote from: softballash25 on December 11, 2006, 10:21:01 pm
If the shoe was on the other foot.........would Warren give the trophy back because everyone else thought it was the right thing to do?        NOT

Sweetie, don't attribute anyone else's comments to me.
Title: Re: I am calling out Scrapper Fans/Players/Coaches/Admin and those Blind Refs
Post by: A JETS MI MONK on December 11, 2006, 10:22:12 pm
Quote from: archaic on December 11, 2006, 10:17:17 pm
Quote from: Villa07 on December 11, 2006, 10:15:20 pm
Quote from: Jake Timmons:  Bounty Hunter on December 11, 2006, 10:09:22 pm
Quote from: Villa07 on December 11, 2006, 10:08:13 pm
hey i understand why your mad....you lost...its simple as that.

i personally think that it was a great call. nobody had a better view than that ref. he was only a couple feet away. you have NO RIGHT to argue w/ his call.

and Vice President RD, you should be ashamed of yourself for writing what you did....from reading that, i can tell that you are an immature sore loser

and as the great forest gump said, "thats all i've got to say about that"

It was a great call if you're a Nashville fan.  If you're a Warren fan or couldn't care less for either team, not so much.

its sad to see that you cant just accept the fact that he was down...ive seen the picture that warren is passing around and that was his SECOND ATTEMP.... if you would take time to look at something other than what is what you WANT to see you would see that the knee was down..... numerous pictures and video show this fact....and for that matter, een the warren spotter admitted that he was down, the nashville and warren spotters reviewed the play several times in slow motion DIRECTLY AFTER THE GAME. i suggest you talk to him before posting any more crap about how yall got cheated...

NASHVILLE SCRAPPERS   -   STATE CHAMPIONS   -   AGAIN!!!

Watch the video......there was no second attempt.

WOW.  I've got to say, if that is his second attempt than he has got some phenominal upper body strength.  If that was his second attempt, then he was using his hand and the football to pull himself off the ground and hold himself up.  Amazing.  Or this is the first attempt and he is on his way down when that picture was taken.  I would say it's his first and only attempt since the ball came out of his hand about a second after the picture was taken.
Title: Re: I am calling out Scrapper Fans/Players/Coaches/Admin and those Blind Refs
Post by: Eddie Goodson on December 11, 2006, 10:22:12 pm
Quote from: jackfan1 on December 11, 2006, 10:19:29 pm
Quote from: Eddie Goodson on December 11, 2006, 10:17:36 pm
Quote from: jackfan1 on December 11, 2006, 10:12:46 pm
Quote from: Eddie Goodson on December 11, 2006, 10:11:31 pm
The title is in Nashville to stay right or wrong. All this arguing back and forth is best summed up by the video link below.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbZFU7X3Qjo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbZFU7X3Qjo)

I see you found it. Did you find your picture of the world's largest wheel of cheese too?


Not yet. There's enough whine on here though to give the Mormon Tabernacle Choir alcohol poisoning.

Oh well, you have to admit, it  would be coming from ANY school that lost the title game on a lousy call. No one is immune to passion and emotion.
You know what they say, "This too shall pass...."
I have little doubt that if the roles were reversed, we'd still be seeing the same thing. After all, there are a few vineyards just north of Nashville.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: archaic on December 11, 2006, 10:24:46 pm
If you had any brains........you would be able to tell that those covers weren't done with photoshop and they aren't even that good. I'm an amateur cover designer. I also don't change the pics themselves..........I just put the covers on top of them. I can't make something look as real as those pics. From what I here you will be able to see it on channel 7 maybe tomorrow.
Title: Re: I am calling out Scrapper Fans/Players/Coaches/Admin and those Blind Refs
Post by: softballash25 on December 11, 2006, 10:25:01 pm
Quote from: jackfan1 on December 11, 2006, 10:22:04 pm
Quote from: softballash25 on December 11, 2006, 10:21:01 pm
If the shoe was on the other foot.........would Warren give the trophy back because everyone else thought it was the right thing to do?        NOT

Sweetie, don't attribute anyone else's comments to me.



I didn't know that I did.  
Title: Re: I am calling out Scrapper Fans/Players/Coaches/Admin and those Blind Refs
Post by: jackfan1™ on December 11, 2006, 10:25:13 pm
Quote from: Eddie Goodson on December 11, 2006, 10:22:12 pm
Quote from: jackfan1 on December 11, 2006, 10:19:29 pm
Quote from: Eddie Goodson on December 11, 2006, 10:17:36 pm
Quote from: jackfan1 on December 11, 2006, 10:12:46 pm
Quote from: Eddie Goodson on December 11, 2006, 10:11:31 pm
The title is in Nashville to stay right or wrong. All this arguing back and forth is best summed up by the video link below.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbZFU7X3Qjo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbZFU7X3Qjo)

I see you found it. Did you find your picture of the world's largest wheel of cheese too?


Not yet. There's enough whine on here though to give the Mormon Tabernacle Choir alcohol poisoning.

Oh well, you have to admit, it  would be coming from ANY school that lost the title game on a lousy call. No one is immune to passion and emotion.
You know what they say, "This too shall pass...."
I have little doubt that if the roles were reversed, we'd still be seeing the same thing. After all, there are a few vineyards just north of Nashville.

So plenty of "whine", eh?
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: A JETS MI MONK on December 11, 2006, 10:26:41 pm
Quote from: Sweet on December 11, 2006, 10:21:34 pm
As much pleasure as I get out of badgering my Lil Pumpkin Scraps my conscience wont let me sleep til I say this:

Look at the first page. This guy photoshops Madden covers. Need I say more?


Tell me how the kid edited the video to show him scoring on his first try.  The picture might have been doctored, but there's no way the video was.
Title: Re: I am calling out Scrapper Fans/Players/Coaches/Admin and those Blind Refs
Post by: Eddie Goodson on December 11, 2006, 10:26:47 pm
Quote from: jackfan1 on December 11, 2006, 10:25:13 pm
Quote from: Eddie Goodson on December 11, 2006, 10:22:12 pm
Quote from: jackfan1 on December 11, 2006, 10:19:29 pm
Quote from: Eddie Goodson on December 11, 2006, 10:17:36 pm
Quote from: jackfan1 on December 11, 2006, 10:12:46 pm
Quote from: Eddie Goodson on December 11, 2006, 10:11:31 pm
The title is in Nashville to stay right or wrong. All this arguing back and forth is best summed up by the video link below.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbZFU7X3Qjo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbZFU7X3Qjo)

I see you found it. Did you find your picture of the world's largest wheel of cheese too?


Not yet. There's enough whine on here though to give the Mormon Tabernacle Choir alcohol poisoning.

Oh well, you have to admit, it  would be coming from ANY school that lost the title game on a lousy call. No one is immune to passion and emotion.
You know what they say, "This too shall pass...."
I have little doubt that if the roles were reversed, we'd still be seeing the same thing. After all, there are a few vineyards just north of Nashville.

So plenty of "whine", eh?
By the barrel.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: archaic on December 11, 2006, 10:28:23 pm
Quote from: Jake Timmons:  Bounty Hunter on December 11, 2006, 10:26:41 pm
Quote from: Sweet on December 11, 2006, 10:21:34 pm
As much pleasure as I get out of badgering my Lil Pumpkin Scraps my conscience wont let me sleep til I say this:

Look at the first page. This guy photoshops Madden covers. Need I say more?


Tell me how the kid edited the video to show him scoring on his first try.  The picture might have been doctored, but there's no way the video was.

I could have doctored it.........but I didn't. I'm really not that good at using that program.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: Sweet on December 11, 2006, 10:32:11 pm
Quote from: archaic on December 11, 2006, 10:28:23 pm
Quote from: Jake Timmons:  Bounty Hunter on December 11, 2006, 10:26:41 pm
Quote from: Sweet on December 11, 2006, 10:21:34 pm
As much pleasure as I get out of badgering my Lil Pumpkin Scraps my conscience wont let me sleep til I say this:

Look at the first page. This guy photoshops Madden covers. Need I say more?


Tell me how the kid edited the video to show him scoring on his first try.  The picture might have been doctored, but there's no way the video was.

I could have doctored it.........but I didn't. I'm really not that good at using that program.

what video? All I see is pictures
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: dc24 on December 11, 2006, 10:33:00 pm
There is no video on that site.
Title: Re: I am calling out Scrapper Fans/Players/Coaches/Admin and those Blind Refs
Post by: RD™ on December 11, 2006, 10:35:46 pm
I am currently chatting with a friend of mine in Florida who referees Little Leauge Football games, and he just told me, that is a Blown Call, by the largest margin and whoever is responsible for the officiating should be banned from ever officiating again.

He didn't even need to see the video stills.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: SCRAPPER MOM#1 on December 11, 2006, 10:35:51 pm
Quote from: archaic on December 11, 2006, 10:28:23 pm
Quote from: Jake Timmons:  Bounty Hunter on December 11, 2006, 10:26:41 pm
Quote from: Sweet on December 11, 2006, 10:21:34 pm
As much pleasure as I get out of badgering my Lil Pumpkin Scraps my conscience wont let me sleep til I say this:

Look at the first page. This guy photoshops Madden covers. Need I say more?


Tell me how the kid edited the video to show him scoring on his first try.  The picture might have been doctored, but there's no way the video was.

I could have doctored it.........but I didn't. I'm really not that good at using that program.


Or did you? hummm. Again just a question..
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: RD™ on December 11, 2006, 10:37:35 pm
Quote from: SCRAPPER MOM#1 on December 11, 2006, 10:35:51 pm
Quote from: archaic on December 11, 2006, 10:28:23 pm
Quote from: Jake Timmons:  Bounty Hunter on December 11, 2006, 10:26:41 pm
Quote from: Sweet on December 11, 2006, 10:21:34 pm
As much pleasure as I get out of badgering my Lil Pumpkin Scraps my conscience wont let me sleep til I say this:

Look at the first page. This guy photoshops Madden covers. Need I say more?


Tell me how the kid edited the video to show him scoring on his first try.  The picture might have been doctored, but there's no way the video was.

I could have doctored it.........but I didn't. I'm really not that good at using that program.


Or did you? hummm. Again just a question..
As a fellow graphic designer, I can assure you 100 percent, that still is not doctored.
Title: Re: I am calling out Scrapper Fans/Players/Coaches/Admin and those Blind Refs
Post by: SCRAPPER MOM#1 on December 11, 2006, 10:38:24 pm
Just a question, but didn't Florida have some trouble with the Presidental election not toooooo many years ago?
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: seark66 on December 11, 2006, 10:38:31 pm
Quote from: SCRAPPER MOM#1 on December 11, 2006, 10:35:51 pmOr did you? hummm. Again just a question..

No way in heck that picture could be doctored that well. You'd have to be very, very, very good to do so without any noticeable flaws.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: SCRAPPER MOM#1 on December 11, 2006, 10:39:51 pm
Well I had to ask. I was not the one that posted about it. Again was just reading about it.
Title: Re: I am calling out Scrapper Fans/Players/Coaches/Admin and those Blind Refs
Post by: bradyfan on December 11, 2006, 10:42:08 pm
haha, i worked as a little league official under Mr. King at the YMCA, how come no1 wants my opinion. lol jk

but on a serious note, its kind of rediculous (spelling?) to ask someone to return their trophy to the AAA. I mean seriously you could tell me that Bret Smith was 28 years old and on steroids, and I wouldn't give up my championship ring for nobody.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: Sweet on December 11, 2006, 10:42:14 pm
Quote from: Vice President RD on December 11, 2006, 10:37:35 pm
Quote from: SCRAPPER MOM#1 on December 11, 2006, 10:35:51 pm
Quote from: archaic on December 11, 2006, 10:28:23 pm
Quote from: Jake Timmons:  Bounty Hunter on December 11, 2006, 10:26:41 pm
Quote from: Sweet on December 11, 2006, 10:21:34 pm
As much pleasure as I get out of badgering my Lil Pumpkin Scraps my conscience wont let me sleep til I say this:

Look at the first page. This guy photoshops Madden covers. Need I say more?


Tell me how the kid edited the video to show him scoring on his first try.  The picture might have been doctored, but there's no way the video was.

I could have doctored it.........but I didn't. I'm really not that good at using that program.


Or did you? hummm. Again just a question..
As a fellow graphic designer, I can assure you 100 percent, that still is not doctored.

As the owner of PS (4.0 - CS) my opinion is that the is room for questions.

#1 The length/direction of the shadows.
#2 The girth of each leg.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: softballash25 on December 11, 2006, 10:43:58 pm
Where was Nashville's #7 leg in that pic? 
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: seark66 on December 11, 2006, 10:46:46 pm
Quote from: softballash25 on December 11, 2006, 10:43:58 pm
Where was Nashville's #7 leg in that pic? 

#7 was behind Warren's #75 when this picture was taken. He isn't in the bottom pick because it is zoomed in to further prove the obvious blown call.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: Sweet on December 11, 2006, 10:50:02 pm
Lets take a look at the shadows.

Under #3 48 and 34 they are long and to the right.
Under the ball carrier it is straight down under his legs but missing from under his body.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: mudturtle on December 11, 2006, 10:50:16 pm
Great play by the QB
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: seark66 on December 11, 2006, 10:51:00 pm
Quote from: Sweet on December 11, 2006, 10:50:02 pm
Lets take a look at the shadows.

Under #3 48 and 34 they are long and to the right.
Under the ball carrier it is straight down.

Which can be attributed to the positioning of the camera and the stadium lights.
Title: Re: I am calling out Scrapper Fans/Players/Coaches/Admin and those Blind Refs
Post by: A JETS MI MONK on December 11, 2006, 10:51:41 pm
Quote from: bradyfan on December 11, 2006, 10:42:08 pm
haha, i worked as a little league official under Mr. King at the YMCA, how come no1 wants my opinion. lol jk

but on a serious note, its kind of rediculous (spelling?) to ask someone to return their trophy to the AAA. I mean seriously you could tell me that Bret Smith was 28 years old and on steroids, and I wouldn't give up my championship ring for nobody.

Why are you questioning the spelling?  There is a spellcheck on here.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: Sweet on December 11, 2006, 10:52:46 pm
Quote from: seark66 on December 11, 2006, 10:51:00 pm
Quote from: Sweet on December 11, 2006, 10:50:02 pm
Lets take a look at the shadows.

Under #3 48 and 34 they are long and to the right.
Under the ball carrier it is straight down.

Which can be attributed to the positioning of the camera and the stadium lights.

Thats my point. Those are both constants which will produce equal results.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: softballash25 on December 11, 2006, 10:55:45 pm
Look at the pic from Channel 3 video in the calling out all scrappers thread.   It shows the ball by #7, with another Scrapper on the other side of #7.  So where are those 2 in this pic?
Title: Re: I am calling out Scrapper Fans/Players/Coaches/Admin and those Blind Refs
Post by: bradyfan on December 11, 2006, 10:56:15 pm
Quote from: Jake Timmons:  Bounty Hunter on December 11, 2006, 10:51:41 pm
Quote from: bradyfan on December 11, 2006, 10:42:08 pm
haha, i worked as a little league official under Mr. King at the YMCA, how come no1 wants my opinion. lol jk

but on a serious note, its kind of rediculous (spelling?) to ask someone to return their trophy to the AAA. I mean seriously you could tell me that Bret Smith was 28 years old and on steroids, and I wouldn't give up my championship ring for nobody.

Why are you questioning the spelling?  There is a spellcheck on here.

oh yea...been studying so hard that my brain is fried...
Title: Re: Did anyone hear about the controversial call in the second overtime?
Post by: Scrapper Slapper on December 11, 2006, 10:56:24 pm
Sarcasm?  I didn't see any sarcasm.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: jackfan1™ on December 11, 2006, 10:58:44 pm
Quote from: Sweet on December 11, 2006, 10:50:02 pm
Lets take a look at the shadows.

Under #3 48 and 34 they are long and to the right.
Under the ball carrier it is straight down under his legs but missing from under his body.

There is no shadow for #3's right leg, the long shadows are cast by  vertical objects (persons), not a horizontal one (player with ball), and there is no shadow for #75 but he is clearly there, not "added".
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: seark66 on December 11, 2006, 10:58:56 pm
Quote from: softballash25 on December 11, 2006, 10:55:45 pm
Look at the pic from Channel 3 video in the calling out all scrappers thread.   It shows the ball by #7, with another Scrapper on the other side of #7.  So where are those 2 in this pic?

Could it be that crappy Channel 3 still shot was taken further along in the play?
Title: All I want for christmas this year is...
Post by: Romeo on December 11, 2006, 11:00:03 pm
(1). For the AAA to add instant replay to the state championship next year.
(2). For the referees who blew that call to be permanently banned from officiating games.
(3). For the AAA to add an *
(4). To find a PS3 thats under $1000
(5). For Nashville and Warren fans to quit acting like North and South Korea

(6). and finally to at least have ONE nashville fan admit that it was a blown call


I'd say I probably get one out of six
Title: Re: No Glory for the Scrappers
Post by: bradyfan on December 11, 2006, 11:00:57 pm
i agree. Bryan had a heck of a game, but as a total the offensive line of nashville did an excellent job. In my opinion it was the difference, just as it was in the Warren/CAC game 2 years ago, not to take anything from Whitmore, Scroggins, or Jesse Gates, but they didn't create their own lanes and holes to run through...
Title: Re: I am calling out Scrapper Fans/Players/Coaches/Admin and those Blind Refs
Post by: Sweet on December 11, 2006, 11:02:06 pm
Quote from: jackfan1 on December 11, 2006, 10:10:02 pm
Quote from: Villa07 on December 11, 2006, 10:08:13 pm
hey i understand why your mad....you lost...its simple as that.

i personally think that it was a great call. nobody had a better view than that ref. he was only a couple feet away. you have NO RIGHT to argue w/ his call.

and Vice President RD, you should be ashamed of yourself for writing what you did....from reading that, i can tell that you are an immature sore loser

and as the great forest gump said, "thats all i've got to say about that"

RD is from Greenwood, NOT Warren.

Anything else?

There none to be haters in Greenwood too.

Dont believe me?

Watch this .......

Greenwood is 2nd rate to Alma and Wynne.
Title: Re: All I want for christmas this year is...
Post by: Scrapper Slapper on December 11, 2006, 11:02:53 pm
So where do you think you can find the PS3?
Title: Re: No Glory for the Scrappers
Post by: COWTOY on December 11, 2006, 11:03:57 pm
No one "Embarrassed" Nashville...  We just lost the big game.   Also, Nashville didn't start this so called "Can of Worms".....SS

Go Scrappers
     
Title: Re: All I want for christmas this year is...
Post by: A JETS MI MONK on December 11, 2006, 11:04:38 pm
Quote from: Romeo on December 11, 2006, 11:00:03 pm
(1). For the AAA to add instant replay to the state championship next year.
(2). For the referees who blew that call to be permanently banned from officiating games.
(3). For the AAA to add an *
(4). To find a PS3 thats under $1000
(5). For Nashville and Warren fans to quit acting like North and South Korea

(6). and finally to at least have ONE nashville fan admit that it was a blown call


I'd say I probably get one out of six

6 has happened.  I think there have been a couple of them.
Title: Re: I am calling out Scrapper Fans/Players/Coaches/Admin and those Blind Refs
Post by: A JETS MI MONK on December 11, 2006, 11:05:34 pm
Quote from: bradyfan on December 11, 2006, 10:56:15 pm
Quote from: Jake Timmons:  Bounty Hunter on December 11, 2006, 10:51:41 pm
Quote from: bradyfan on December 11, 2006, 10:42:08 pm
haha, i worked as a little league official under Mr. King at the YMCA, how come no1 wants my opinion. lol jk

but on a serious note, its kind of rediculous (spelling?) to ask someone to return their trophy to the AAA. I mean seriously you could tell me that Bret Smith was 28 years old and on steroids, and I wouldn't give up my championship ring for nobody.

Why are you questioning the spelling?  There is a spellcheck on here.

oh yea...been studying so hard that my brain is fried...

I understand that.  Final number 1 is tomorrow.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: Sweet on December 11, 2006, 11:05:52 pm
On further review of the play....... there is no shadow under his leg. What is perceived to be a shadow is his leg on the ground.

Play stands as called on the field.
Title: Re: No Glory for the Scrappers
Post by: LoneStar on December 11, 2006, 11:06:03 pm
Quote from: bradyfan on December 11, 2006, 11:00:57 pm
i agree. Bryan had a heck of a game, but as a total the offensive line of nashville did an excellent job. In my opinion it was the difference, just as it was in the Warren/CAC game 2 years ago, not to take anything from Whitmore, Scroggins, or Jesse Gates, but they didn't create their own lanes and holes to run through...
Bryan Church won the State Farm award tonite. 

As for Scroggins...he always credits the line for creating the gaps allowing him to perform to the best of his ability.
Title: Re: I am calling out Scrapper Fans/Players/Coaches/Admin and those Blind Refs
Post by: RD™ on December 11, 2006, 11:06:16 pm
Quote from: Sweet on December 11, 2006, 11:02:06 pm
Quote from: jackfan1 on December 11, 2006, 10:10:02 pm
Quote from: Villa07 on December 11, 2006, 10:08:13 pm
hey i understand why your mad....you lost...its simple as that.

i personally think that it was a great call. nobody had a better view than that ref. he was only a couple feet away. you have NO RIGHT to argue w/ his call.

and Vice President RD, you should be ashamed of yourself for writing what you did....from reading that, i can tell that you are an immature sore loser

and as the great forest gump said, "thats all i've got to say about that"

RD is from Greenwood, NOT Warren.

Anything else?

There none to be haters in Greenwood too.

Dont believe me?

Watch this .......

Greenwood is 2nd rate to Alma and Wynne.
Nice bait..no bite. I think our State Title Dominance the last few years says it all.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: SCRAPPER MOM#1 on December 11, 2006, 11:06:59 pm
Quote from: seark66 on December 11, 2006, 10:58:56 pm
Quote from: softballash25 on December 11, 2006, 10:55:45 pm
Look at the pic from Channel 3 video in the calling out all scrappers thread.   It shows the ball by #7, with another Scrapper on the other side of #7.  So where are those 2 in this pic?

Could it be that crappy Channel 3 still shot was taken further along in the play?

Only if a few Warren folks say so and a few Nashville folks say not.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: archaic on December 11, 2006, 11:08:21 pm
Quote from: Sweet on December 11, 2006, 11:05:52 pm
On further review of the play....... there is no shadow under his leg. What is perceived to be a shadow is his leg on the ground.

Play stands as called on the field.

I guess some people will look for almost any excuse.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: Sweet on December 11, 2006, 11:11:59 pm
Quote from: archaic on December 11, 2006, 11:08:21 pm
Quote from: Sweet on December 11, 2006, 11:05:52 pm
On further review of the play....... there is no shadow under his leg. What is perceived to be a shadow is his leg on the ground.

Play stands as called on the field.

I guess some people will look for almost any excuse.

I really dont have a dog in this fight. I actually enjoy seeing Nashville get creamed as often as I can. Im just calling it as I see it.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: dc24 on December 11, 2006, 11:12:24 pm
Quote from: Sweet on December 11, 2006, 11:05:52 pm
On further review of the play....... there is no shadow under his leg. What is perceived to be a shadow is his leg on the ground.

Play stands as called on the field.

WOW!  You don't have a clue do you?
Title: Re: I am calling out Scrapper Fans/Players/Coaches/Admin and those Blind Refs
Post by: LionFan22 on December 11, 2006, 11:13:09 pm
Quote from: Vice President RD on December 11, 2006, 10:35:46 pm
I am currently chatting with a friend of mine in Florida who referees Little Leauge Football games, and he just told me, that is a Blown Call, by the largest margin and whoever is responsible for the officiating should be banned from ever officiating again.

He didn't even need to see the video stills.

True it was clearly across the refs were ready to get home and they made the call quick because thats what they thought was goin to happen. .......... More than half that ball crossed i saw it from the stands
Warren lost and Nashville won because of the refs but theirs nothing they can do about it it was a blown call and its over
Title: Re: All I want for christmas this year is...
Post by: Sweet on December 11, 2006, 11:14:24 pm
The sad part of all this is that the AAA will probably take a step backwards and instead of adding replay they will ban it from the jumbo-tron. Welcome to Arkansas boys.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: archaic on December 11, 2006, 11:15:36 pm
Quote from: Sweet on December 11, 2006, 11:11:59 pm
Quote from: archaic on December 11, 2006, 11:08:21 pm
Quote from: Sweet on December 11, 2006, 11:05:52 pm
On further review of the play....... there is no shadow under his leg. What is perceived to be a shadow is his leg on the ground.

Play stands as called on the field.

I guess some people will look for almost any excuse.

I really dont have a dog in this fight. I actually enjoy seeing Nashville get creamed as often as I can. Im just calling it as I see it.

You see very poorly then..
Title: Re: Amazing How The State Media Won't Touch This With A 10 Foot Pole
Post by: mudturtle on December 11, 2006, 11:15:59 pm
Bottom line is this,  even if they find a photo showing him 18 inches off of the ground with the ball a foot over the line .......... Nashville still won.

Even if the refs missed the call ...... Nashville won.


Even if the ref was paid off and threw the game......Nashville won.

Doesn't mean Warren didn't get screwed, doesn't mean Nashvilled deserves it...........but the fact is they won.
Title: Re: All I want for christmas this year is...
Post by: Romeo on December 11, 2006, 11:19:33 pm
Quote from: Moron Detector on December 11, 2006, 11:02:53 pm
So where do you think you can find the PS3?

Finding the PS3 is just as impossible as number 3
Title: Re: All I want for christmas this year is...
Post by: SCRAPPER MOM#1 on December 11, 2006, 11:19:52 pm
Quote from: Romeo on December 11, 2006, 11:00:03 pm
(1). For the AAA to add instant replay to the state championship next year.
(2). For the referees who blew that call to be permanently banned from officiating games.
(3). For the AAA to add an *
(4). To find a PS3 thats under $1000
(5). For Nashville and Warren fans to quit acting like North and South Korea

(6). and finally to at least have ONE nashville fan admit that it was a blown call


I'd say I probably get one out of six



Okay, okay, okay blown call...

Now Merry Christmas.
Way to go Scrappers.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: jackfan1™ on December 11, 2006, 11:19:59 pm
Quote from: Sweet on December 11, 2006, 11:05:52 pm
On further review of the play....... there is no shadow under his leg. What is perceived to be a shadow is his leg on the ground.

Play stands as called on the field.

There are no black stripes on the legs of the Warren unis. And his right leg is not bigger around than his left.....as it would have to be in this picture if what you "claim" is true. So please, explain how his leg is on the ground.
Get real.   ::)
Title: Re: Amazing How The State Media Won't Touch This With A 10 Foot Pole
Post by: Sweet on December 11, 2006, 11:20:29 pm
The thing about it is that it happens every day. My daughter was on the wrong end of a bad call for a title game. But as I parent I knew that the right thing to do was to make shure she learned the lesson of moving on even in adversity.

I honestly doubt the AAA will move forward on this. Like I said in another thread they will probably move backwards and ban instant replay on the jumbo-tron.
Title: Re: I am calling out Scrapper Fans/Players/Coaches/Admin and those Blind Refs
Post by: LionFan22 on December 11, 2006, 11:21:03 pm
oh yea if you heard it from the radio the commentators even said he was in and the refs made a bad call
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: archaic on December 11, 2006, 11:26:46 pm
I honestly can say.....There is almost no doubt in my mind now that he got in.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: Sweet on December 11, 2006, 11:26:56 pm
Quote from: jackfan1 on December 11, 2006, 11:19:59 pm
Quote from: Sweet on December 11, 2006, 11:05:52 pm
On further review of the play....... there is no shadow under his leg. What is perceived to be a shadow is his leg on the ground.

Play stands as called on the field.

There are no black stripes on the legs of the Warren unis. And his right leg is not bigger around than his left.....as it would have to be in this picture if what you "claim" is true. So please, explain how his leg is on the ground.
Get real.   ::)

When I finally got PS to open a bmp I saw that what appeared to be a shadow on the ground is actually his leg with shadow on it.

When I blow it up I see orange in the white blur and black shadow. This tells me it is his leg.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: archaic on December 11, 2006, 11:28:48 pm
Quote from: Sweet on December 11, 2006, 11:26:56 pm
Quote from: jackfan1 on December 11, 2006, 11:19:59 pm
Quote from: Sweet on December 11, 2006, 11:05:52 pm
On further review of the play....... there is no shadow under his leg. What is perceived to be a shadow is his leg on the ground.

Play stands as called on the field.

There are no black stripes on the legs of the Warren unis. And his right leg is not bigger around than his left.....as it would have to be in this picture if what you "claim" is true. So please, explain how his leg is on the ground.
Get real.   ::)

When I finally got PS to open a bmp I saw that what appeared to be a shadow on the ground is actually his leg with shadow on it.

When I blow it up I see orange in the white blur and black shadow. This tells me it is his leg.

Have you ever heard of a person lying to themself until they start to believe the lie. That is exactly what you are doing except with your eyes.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: Sweet on December 11, 2006, 11:36:26 pm
Quote from: archaic on December 11, 2006, 11:28:48 pm
Quote from: Sweet on December 11, 2006, 11:26:56 pm
Quote from: jackfan1 on December 11, 2006, 11:19:59 pm
Quote from: Sweet on December 11, 2006, 11:05:52 pm
On further review of the play....... there is no shadow under his leg. What is perceived to be a shadow is his leg on the ground.

Play stands as called on the field.

There are no black stripes on the legs of the Warren unis. And his right leg is not bigger around than his left.....as it would have to be in this picture if what you "claim" is true. So please, explain how his leg is on the ground.
Get real.   ::)

When I finally got PS to open a bmp I saw that what appeared to be a shadow on the ground is actually his leg with shadow on it.

When I blow it up I see orange in the white blur and black shadow. This tells me it is his leg.

Have you ever heard of a person lying to themself until they start to believe the lie. That is exactly what you are doing except with your eyes.

I'll say it again..................

I dont have a dog in this fight. Take note of the rotten pumpkin in my avitar and the last 2 words in my sig.  I dislike the Nashville Punkin Scraps. But from what I see he is down.

Your 15 mins. are up

Good night Sir.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: archaic on December 11, 2006, 11:38:36 pm
When you figure out how neon orange pants turn to green you let me know.
Title: Re: No Glory for the Scrappers
Post by: bradyfan on December 11, 2006, 11:39:30 pm
Quote from: LoneStar on December 11, 2006, 11:06:03 pm
Quote from: bradyfan on December 11, 2006, 11:00:57 pm
i agree. Bryan had a heck of a game, but as a total the offensive line of nashville did an excellent job. In my opinion it was the difference, just as it was in the Warren/CAC game 2 years ago, not to take anything from Whitmore, Scroggins, or Jesse Gates, but they didn't create their own lanes and holes to run through...
Bryan Church won the State Farm award tonite. 

As for Scroggins...he always credits the line for creating the gaps allowing him to perform to the best of his ability.


i in noway intended to portray those guys as arrogant or self absorbed, i only know one of the 3 guys i listed and i know he is a very humble person. I am glad to here that about scroggins and wish him the best of luck in his career
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: BringbckSingletary on December 11, 2006, 11:40:39 pm
Quote from: Sweet on December 11, 2006, 11:36:26 pm
Quote from: archaic on December 11, 2006, 11:28:48 pm
Quote from: Sweet on December 11, 2006, 11:26:56 pm
Quote from: jackfan1 on December 11, 2006, 11:19:59 pm
Quote from: Sweet on December 11, 2006, 11:05:52 pm
On further review of the play....... there is no shadow under his leg. What is perceived to be a shadow is his leg on the ground.

Play stands as called on the field.

There are no black stripes on the legs of the Warren unis. And his right leg is not bigger around than his left.....as it would have to be in this picture if what you "claim" is true. So please, explain how his leg is on the ground.
Get real.   ::)

When I finally got PS to open a bmp I saw that what appeared to be a shadow on the ground is actually his leg with shadow on it.

When I blow it up I see orange in the white blur and black shadow. This tells me it is his leg.

Have you ever heard of a person lying to themself until they start to believe the lie. That is exactly what you are doing except with your eyes.

I'll say it again..................

I dont have a dog in this fight. Take note of the rotten pumpkin in my avitar and the last 2 words in my sig.  I dislike the Nashville Punkin Scraps. But from what I see he is down.

Your 15 mins. are up

Good night Sir.

Watch the video, and not that stupid shreveport video, you can't even see the ball
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: Uncle Ivan on December 11, 2006, 11:40:59 pm
Are we positive that's a shadow?  It strikes me as iffy.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: archaic on December 11, 2006, 11:41:40 pm
oh...........my bad sweet, I forgot to say Good Night.
Title: Re: I am calling out Scrapper Fans/Players/Coaches/Admin and those Blind Refs
Post by: DR.PEPPER_07 on December 11, 2006, 11:48:58 pm
well thats probaly cause you werent listening
Title: REPLAY WILL BE SHOWN ON CHANNELL 7
Post by: JACK D BACK 27 on December 11, 2006, 11:58:36 pm
STEVE SULLIVAN HAS SAID HE WILL RUN THE REPLAY SOMETIME TOMMORROW AND IF YOU WATCH THE VIDEO THE OFFICIAL WHO MAKES THE CALL IS BLOCKED AND CANNOT EVEN SEE THE PLAY.  THE OFFICIAL HAS ADMITED THAT IT WAS NOT HIS CALL BUT SAID THAT EITHER LINEJUDGE DID NOT MAKE THE CALL SO HE THOUGHT HE HAD TO MAKE THE CALL EVEN THOUGH IT WAS NOT HIS CALL I WAS IN COACH HEMBREES OFFICE THIS MORNING WHEN THEY TALKED ALL LUMBERJACK FANS COACH HEMBREE HAS ACCEPTED IT HE SAID THAT EVERYONE MAKES MISTAKES AND PEOPLE HAVE TO LIVE WITH THE RESULTS HE IS JUST GLAD HE GOT A EXPLANATION FROM THE REFEREE HE SAID HE WAS NOT MAD AT ANY OF THE OFFICIALS HE WAS JUST MAD BECAUSE THE WRONG OFFICIAL MADE THE CALL BUT SINCE TALKING TO THE OFFICIALS HE SAYS HE IS AT PEACE AND MISTAKES HAPPEN
Title: Re: REPLAY WILL BE SHOWN ON CHANNELL 7
Post by: Bleachermom on December 12, 2006, 12:20:05 am
Bravo for Coach Hembree! Congratulations, Lumberjacks on a fine season and a fine coach.
Title: Re: REPLAY WILL BE SHOWN ON CHANNELL 7
Post by: seark66 on December 12, 2006, 12:25:36 am
Quote from: JACK D BACK 27 on December 11, 2006, 11:58:36 pm
STEVE SULLIVAN HAS SAID HE WILL RUN THE REPLAY SOMETIME TOMMORROW AND IF YOU WATCH THE VIDEO THE OFFICIAL WHO MAKES THE CALL IS BLOCKED AND CANNOT EVEN SEE THE PLAY.  THE OFFICIAL HAS ADMITED THAT IT WAS NOT HIS CALL BUT SAID THAT EITHER LINEJUDGE DID NOT MAKE THE CALL SO HE THOUGHT HE HAD TO MAKE THE CALL EVEN THOUGH IT WAS NOT HIS CALL I WAS IN COACH HEMBREES OFFICE THIS MORNING WHEN THEY TALKED ALL LUMBERJACK FANS COACH HEMBREE HAS ACCEPTED IT HE SAID THAT EVERYONE MAKES MISTAKES AND PEOPLE HAVE TO LIVE WITH THE RESULTS HE IS JUST GLAD HE GOT A EXPLANATION FROM THE REFEREE HE SAID HE WAS NOT MAD AT ANY OF THE OFFICIALS HE WAS JUST MAD BECAUSE THE WRONG OFFICIAL MADE THE CALL BUT SINCE TALKING TO THE OFFICIALS HE SAYS HE IS AT PEACE AND MISTAKES HAPPEN

I can understand the official feeling the need to make the call. This would have been made even worse if they all just stood and looked at each other...
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: JD_Will on December 12, 2006, 12:28:32 am
Quote from: Villa07 on December 11, 2006, 09:57:49 pm
Alright, i'm a nashville fan and in the picture in the link on the first post it looks as though the conversion was good.......

BUT CAN YOU SAY, "SECOND ATTEMPT"

There are also numerous pictures of his knee DOWN BEFORE the ball crossed the plain...

WHERE!!! SHOW ME!!! GIVE ME THE TITLES TO THE POST!!!! I'M LIKE MISSOURI, YOU GOT TO SHOW ME!!!!
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: SingleWingGuru on December 12, 2006, 12:31:49 am
Quote from: President Ivan on December 11, 2006, 11:40:59 pm
Are we positive that's a shadow?  It strikes me as iffy.

In the first picture at least it is not a shadow.  IT is a tooling.  (don't know about the second picture)


Look at a negative of the picture in photoshop.  It is pretty obvious it is filled in.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: seark66 on December 12, 2006, 12:39:07 am
Quote from: SingleWingGuru on December 12, 2006, 12:31:49 amIn the first picture at least it is not a shadow.  IT is a tooling.  (don't know about the second picture)


Look at a negative of the picture in photoshop.  It is pretty obvious it is filled in.

I can tell you without a doubt the guy that posted these pictures did no work on them.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: Nashville_05 on December 12, 2006, 12:58:22 am
Quote from: archaic on December 11, 2006, 11:28:48 pm
Quote from: Sweet on December 11, 2006, 11:26:56 pm
Quote from: jackfan1 on December 11, 2006, 11:19:59 pm
Quote from: Sweet on December 11, 2006, 11:05:52 pm
On further review of the play....... there is no shadow under his leg. What is perceived to be a shadow is his leg on the ground.

Play stands as called on the field.

There are no black stripes on the legs of the Warren unis. And his right leg is not bigger around than his left.....as it would have to be in this picture if what you "claim" is true. So please, explain how his leg is on the ground.
Get real.   ::)

When I finally got PS to open a bmp I saw that what appeared to be a shadow on the ground is actually his leg with shadow on it.

When I blow it up I see orange in the white blur and black shadow. This tells me it is his leg.

Have you ever heard of a person lying to themself until they start to believe the lie. That is exactly what you are doing except with your eyes.

That also could be what you are doing.  It goes both ways.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: Uncle Ivan on December 12, 2006, 01:10:24 am
Quote from: SingleWingGuru on December 12, 2006, 12:31:49 amIn the first picture at least it is not a shadow.  IT is a tooling.  (don't know about the second picture)


Look at a negative of the picture in photoshop.  It is pretty obvious it is filled in.

That's my concern.  Something didn't look quite right with that shadow when I first stared at it.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: dc24 on December 12, 2006, 01:11:27 am
Quote from: President Ivan on December 12, 2006, 01:10:24 am
Quote from: SingleWingGuru on December 12, 2006, 12:31:49 amIn the first picture at least it is not a shadow.  IT is a tooling.  (don't know about the second picture)


Look at a negative of the picture in photoshop.  It is pretty obvious it is filled in.

That's my concern.  Something didn't look quite right with that shadow when I first stared at it.

Have you watched the video Ivan?  I would like to hear your opinion on that.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: Uncle Ivan on December 12, 2006, 01:13:43 am
Quote from: dc24 on December 12, 2006, 01:11:27 amHave you watched the video Ivan?  I would like to hear your opinion on that.

I will tomorrow.  This dialup here won't load it.

I've withheld judgement on whether it was good or not until I saw a video or two.

What I'd like to be able to do is run the tape through a VCR that can do frame-by-frame, which I have one of.  I suppose Custom Promotions is still doing title game tapes.
Title: Re: I am calling out Scrapper Fans/Players/Coaches/Admin and those Blind Refs
Post by: stown07 on December 12, 2006, 01:15:13 am
I'll be honest... I dislike both Nashville and Warren and I have good enough reason to do so... Nashville is beyond arrogant... Warren was very disrespectful when I arrived in Warren for the Stuttgart/Warren game... I mean I never felt like going to jail as bad as I did that night... I walk into the stadium and the FIRST thing I hear is "He doesn't look like he is from Warren, must be here to watch that rear whippin that Stuttgart has coming to them"... Honestly, we did get our butts handed to us... I had a few ignorant Warren people have very negative comments before the game even started... I'm not saying everyone in Warren is this way but the few people I encountered at the game were very rude... I even asked a girl where some good places to eat where because I didnt feel like waiting until Pine Bluff to get to Arby's and she replied something like wait until you get to Stuttgart your not gonna feel like eating after we kill you etc... Oh well, I cant say I'm happy Warren got screwed though because the players seemed classy and when Warren played us in 05' they didn't have much to say negative... Maybe because they were out numbered and knew better but yea... Sorry Warren, I think SS should personally hand over the trophy back to AAA...
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: dc24 on December 12, 2006, 01:15:28 am
Quote from: President Ivan on December 12, 2006, 01:13:43 am
Quote from: dc24 on December 12, 2006, 01:11:27 amHave you watched the video Ivan?  I would like to hear your opinion on that.

I will tomorrow.  This dialup here won't load it.

I've withheld judgement on whether it was good or not until I saw a video or two.

Ok, believe it or not, I value your opinion as long as you are not talking about ASU.   ;)
Title: Re: Amazing How The State Media Won't Touch This With A 10 Foot Pole
Post by: Bleachermom on December 12, 2006, 01:23:01 am
Quote from: Sweet on December 11, 2006, 11:20:29 pm
The thing about it is that it happens every day. My daughter was on the wrong end of a bad call for a title game. But as I parent I knew that the right thing to do was to make shure she learned the lesson of moving on even in adversity.
This dad is absolutely correct. We dealt with "unfairness" with out son last Friday night. The fans, coaches, even the other team's TV announcers, and the video showed the ref was absolutely wrong. Maybe, when my son or I make no mistakes for one whole day, I'll take the tape to the AAA and get the ref fired. (We all know the ref's job is safe for a long, long time.) Errors are part of life and sports is a very good arena for teaching kids to do their best, regardless.
Title: Re: I am calling out Scrapper Fans/Players/Coaches/Admin and those Blind Refs
Post by: ljmom on December 12, 2006, 01:26:24 am
stown07,  I wish I'd met you, in Warren.  I'm sorry that you had that experience.  Unfortunately, there's always some bad apples in every basket.  I know we have them, because I see/hear them myself. 

Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: PA Pressbox on December 12, 2006, 01:32:53 am
Quote from: President Ivan on December 12, 2006, 01:13:43 am
Quote from: dc24 on December 12, 2006, 01:11:27 amHave you watched the video Ivan?  I would like to hear your opinion on that.

I will tomorrow.  This dialup here won't load it.

I've withheld judgement on whether it was good or not until I saw a video or two.

What I'd like to be able to do is run the tape through a VCR that can do frame-by-frame, which I have one of.  I suppose Custom Promotions is still doing title game tapes.

I wouldn't count on the Custom Promotions official game video having anything similar to the "Warren East Lab" video in it.  I also wouldn't be surprised if they edit out the zoomed in replay that was shown on the video display.  FYI:  You may already know this, but the Custom Promotions video is taken from the same 3-camera video feed that goes to the scoreboard video display.
Title: Re: I am calling out Scrapper Fans/Players/Coaches/Admin and those Blind Refs
Post by: [el_CaC] on December 12, 2006, 02:00:57 am
Quote from: Jake Timmons:  Bounty Hunter on December 11, 2006, 10:12:56 pm
Quote from: Eddie Goodson on December 11, 2006, 10:11:31 pm
The title is in Nashville to stay right or wrong. All this arguing back and forth is best summed up by the video link below.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbZFU7X3Qjo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbZFU7X3Qjo)

That movie is so stupid.  One of his worsts.  I love Ghostbusters though.

Ghostbusters is one of the greats.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: LakeRat on December 12, 2006, 07:09:59 am
The picture looks pretty convincing... but then again. The refs aren't here, neither is the AAA... who is trying to convince who?

Unfortunately the game is over. The call stood on the field. The controversy will outlive all of us...

Congrats to both teams!!
Title: Re: All I want for christmas this year is...
Post by: arreferee on December 12, 2006, 07:54:32 am
Quote from: Romeo on December 11, 2006, 11:19:33 pm
Quote from: Moron Detector on December 11, 2006, 11:02:53 pm
So where do you think you can find the PS3?

Finding the PS3 is just as impossible as number 3

I've got a PS3 I'll sell you for under $1000.
Title: Re: Amazing How The State Media Won't Touch This With A 10 Foot Pole
Post by: athletic supporter on December 12, 2006, 08:08:24 am
Quote from: Bleachermom on December 12, 2006, 01:23:01 am
Quote from: Sweet on December 11, 2006, 11:20:29 pm
The thing about it is that it happens every day. My daughter was on the wrong end of a bad call for a title game. But as I parent I knew that the right thing to do was to make shure she learned the lesson of moving on even in adversity.
This dad is absolutely correct. We dealt with "unfairness" with out son last Friday night. The fans, coaches, even the other team's TV announcers, and the video showed the ref was absolutely wrong. Maybe, when my son or I make no mistakes for one whole day, I'll take the tape to the AAA and get the ref fired. (We all know the ref's job is safe for a long, long time.) Errors are part of life and sports is a very good arena for teaching kids to do their best, regardless.


Excellent post! BTW, who cast the first stone? Does anybody want to be a referee now?
Title: Re: Amazing How The State Media Won't Touch This With A 10 Foot Pole
Post by: The_Preacher on December 12, 2006, 08:25:16 am
unsure about that one mystery man but I sure did hear it when it hit the glass, and now we have the mess to get cleaned up. I do agree the Big Screen will not be available in years to come. causes to much stress and questions and  no one likes to be questioned about  things like that.
Title: Re: Amazing How The State Media Won't Touch This With A 10 Foot Pole
Post by: FootballGuy43 on December 12, 2006, 08:36:28 am
And Instant Replay in High School Football........out of the question.
Title: Re: Amazing How The State Media Won't Touch This With A 10 Foot Pole
Post by: Recruitanother on December 12, 2006, 08:36:51 am
It's time to move on. It is time for Warren to start talking about next year.  I think that the real lesson here is "Do not leave the decision up to the ref's" I can assure you that Nashville wishes they had just made one of the fieldgoals so that (by the way one of them would have been good on a regular high school set of Goal post) the game would never have been left up to the final call. Bye the way if you want to get on the refs how about the two no calls where the Warren players ran into the kicker after the filedgoal attempt. Yes they called it the first time, but it happened two other times with no call. I am sure that Warren would have felt bad if Nashville had gotten another play at the end of the first over time.  There are so many plays that could have gone differently in the game, but that happens in everygame. That is the Nature of this sport. GOod Calls, bad calls, Good plays, bad plays, rights wrongs happen alot. It is amazing that we only remember one during the game.  In Fact if your linemen were not downfield we might not even be talking about this today!   Oh well! The fact is the Scrappers won! That is what it will always say in the record books.  SO lets talk about next year!    .........    Dynasty  (Three Peat)???????????
Title: Re: No Glory for the Scrappers
Post by: LoneStar on December 12, 2006, 08:37:39 am
I didn't take that as intended that way.  My son was an offensive lineman and I understand that position hardly ever gets the recognition it deserves so I wanted to add to your observation that it is a team effort to make the play.  Whitmore knows this and that is what allows him to be so versatile.

BTW~You had a great post on one of the other threads you started regarding the Nashville vs Warren game.
Title: Re: All I want for christmas this year is...
Post by: Recruitanother on December 12, 2006, 08:39:31 am
GOOD Luck on the PS3   
Title: Re: No Glory for the Scrappers
Post by: Recruitanother on December 12, 2006, 08:44:32 am
The Conversation in Nashville this week................................ WHAT SIZE DO YOU WEAR?  WELL WHAT SIZE DO YOU WEAR? HEY DO YOU THINK THAT IT WILL LOOK GOOD BESIDE THE OTHER ONE OR DO I NEED TO WEAR IT ON THE OTHER HAND.   REPEAT!!!!! REPEAT!  DYNASTY!  WELL NEXT YEAR WE MIGHT HAVE 550 TOTAL OFFENSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: I am calling out Scrapper Fans/Players/Coaches/Admin and those Blind Refs
Post by: Recruitanother on December 12, 2006, 09:00:02 am
GOLD AND DIAMONDS WILL SOMETIMES MAKE YOU BLIND!!!!! SILVER IS NOT SO SHINY BUT IT IS STILL PRETTY NICE.
Title: Re: Did anyone hear about the controversial call in the second overtime?
Post by: stina_ar on December 12, 2006, 09:02:20 am
Jesus Christ.
Its like a retard fest with you.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: Wahls on December 12, 2006, 09:04:46 am
The thing is, with the picture here:

(http://web.mac.com/robertgreggreep/iWeb/Game%20Covers/Home%202.html)

He clearly looks like its a two point conversion.

But here:

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a349/RDGraphics/2.jpg)

His elbow is down. But, the ball is across the plain. It could go both ways, but, in my personal opinion, I don't believe he made it in. Warren fans have a reason to be bitter, but as fast as the play was going on, it would have been a tough call for any offical. I don't think the State would allow terrible officals to call the state championship game.

Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: archaic on December 12, 2006, 09:06:21 am
DQ........take a look at this:

http://web.mac.com/robertgreggreep/iWeb/Game%20Covers/Home%202.html

Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: stina_ar on December 12, 2006, 09:09:49 am
Quote from: shortstuff9219 on December 11, 2006, 05:38:43 pm
you are the one that is delusional thinkin nashiville is state champs... BS !!!


That's odd. They are the ones getting the CHAMPIONSHIP rings, right?

Hmm...and if those are reserved for the WINNERS/CHAMPS...then that must mean.....

S T F U

Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: archaic on December 12, 2006, 09:11:39 am
Quote from: fobcat_ban on December 12, 2006, 09:09:49 am
Quote from: shortstuff9219 on December 11, 2006, 05:38:43 pm
you are the one that is delusional thinkin nashiville is state champs... BS !!!


That's odd. They are the ones getting the CHAMPIONSHIP rings, right?

Hmm...and if those are reserved for the WINNERS/CHAMPS...then that must mean.....

S T F U




Rings may represent......a championship, but that doesn't mean they represent champions.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: Wahls on December 12, 2006, 09:13:00 am
Quote from: archaic on December 12, 2006, 09:06:21 am
DQ........take a look at this:

http://web.mac.com/robertgreggreep/iWeb/Game%20Covers/Home%202.html



That picture is what I tried to post before. Now, if you look closely, you can kind of see a blur where his right arm would be.  And I believe his elbow is down. Cut the officials some slack, they were kind of shielded from the play. Now, there is a thing someone posted saying they blew the call, and the wrong offical made the call. Both linesman were shielded, and would you rather have two blind linesman, or a referree make the call?

That being said, it's a bad deal all the way around. No matter the call, there would be angry people here, unfortunately it was Warren. It's kind of sad that it had to end on a controvercial call, but it kind of happens sometime.
Title: Re: REPLAY WILL BE SHOWN ON CHANNELL 7
Post by: seark66 on December 12, 2006, 09:15:25 am
Quote from: RKO on December 12, 2006, 09:14:04 am
I'm glad the thought that even a coach will say that from time to time that is what its all about....now that's class for sure.Now for the TV stuff its not going to happen I have it in good intrest they will not show it..If 1 station shows it they all would show the thing..So thats thrown out..End of story.

Go ahead and get ready for it to be shown...
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: stina_ar on December 12, 2006, 09:15:36 am
Quote from: archaic on December 12, 2006, 09:11:39 am
Quote from: fobcat_ban on December 12, 2006, 09:09:49 am
Quote from: shortstuff9219 on December 11, 2006, 05:38:43 pm
you are the one that is delusional thinkin nashiville is state champs... BS !!!


That's odd. They are the ones getting the CHAMPIONSHIP rings, right?

Hmm...and if those are reserved for the WINNERS/CHAMPS...then that must mean.....

S T F U




Rings may represent......a championship, but that doesn't mean they represent champions.

What does it matter?
In a few years, no one is going to remember this (minus fans from Warren). The books say they won. That's all that matters.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: Wahls on December 12, 2006, 09:15:58 am
(http://web.mac.com/robertgreggreep/iWeb/Game%20Covers/Home%202_files/gamewinner.jpg)

Thats a better shot of his elbow being down, but his knees not, because he was rapped up at the ankles. I'm assuming an elbow down means that the player is down in Arkansas football, but I'm not sure. We need a referee to see if thats true or not.
Title: Re: REPLAY WILL BE SHOWN ON CHANNELL 7
Post by: #1 STUNNA on December 12, 2006, 09:17:05 am
it will be shown
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: archaic on December 12, 2006, 09:20:19 am
Quote from: DQ's Comin'. on December 12, 2006, 09:13:00 am
Quote from: archaic on December 12, 2006, 09:06:21 am
DQ........take a look at this:

http://web.mac.com/robertgreggreep/iWeb/Game%20Covers/Home%202.html



That picture is what I tried to post before. Now, if you look closely, you can kind of see a blur where his right arm would be.  And I believe his elbow is down. Cut the officials some slack, they were kind of shielded from the play. Now, there is a thing someone posted saying they blew the call, and the wrong offical made the call. Both linesman were shielded, and would you rather have two blind linesman, or a referree make the call?

That being said, it's a bad deal all the way around. No matter the call, there would be angry people here, unfortunately it was Warren. It's kind of sad that it had to end on a controvercial call, but it kind of happens sometime.


I understand that they may have had a bad view. In a situation like that, they should have held a conference on the field with each other to try and determine the right call. Instead, they made a hasty decision.

If you will look at the new photo I posted on the site......it shows his elbow on the line. In other words.......he was in.

http://web.mac.com/robertgreggreep/iWeb/Game%20Covers/Home%202.html
Title: Re: Did anyone hear about the controversial call in the second overtime?
Post by: FootballGuy43 on December 12, 2006, 09:21:59 am
Quote from: fobcat_ban on December 12, 2006, 09:02:20 am
Jesus Christ.
Its like a retard fest with you.

For me or MD?
Title: Re: REPLAY WILL BE SHOWN ON CHANNELL 7
Post by: butamare1 on December 12, 2006, 09:22:32 am
That Warren coach is a class act.
Title: Re: Did anyone hear about the controversial call in the second overtime?
Post by: xboxgameboss on December 12, 2006, 09:24:09 am
MD YOU ARE A BLOOMING IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: REPLAY WILL BE SHOWN ON CHANNELL 7
Post by: rooroo5118 on December 12, 2006, 09:25:51 am
wow another replay.....good job coach hembree.....there were a bunch of mistakes made that night by a bunch of different players,coaches, and referees.

what no one has said is this........and this is only my thoughts.....if his knee was NOT down then I believe this is a fumble.....the ball is truly out.....but I am not a referee!

I think this was a play that had a 50/50 chance of being called good or being called bad....the side judge on nashvilles side had a clear look at it so he must have not been certain that it was good.  

What a great high school football game and a great championship game!
it doesn't matter how or what happens in a 21-20 championship game someone is going to be upset!  Two great programs!  

overall what a dominating performance by the Scrappers.....the lumberjack defense got stingy in the red zone a couple of times but for the Scrapper Defense to give up less then 100 yards rushing and allow Warren to only complete 3 passes.....WOW!  

that is what is being taken away from all of this....the job that both teams did on the field......Scrapper Defense you are to commended for an outstanding job!
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: rooroo5118 on December 12, 2006, 09:30:31 am
Parking Pass  $5.00
Admission for 4....$28.00
Coke,Popcorn,hot chocolate......14.50

The Silence in the Warren Crowd when the PA announcer said, "Nashville your State Championship T-shirts are READY"........PRICELESS
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Jack1990 on December 12, 2006, 09:33:16 am
I'll give you +1 for that...
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: rooroo5118 on December 12, 2006, 09:35:16 am
Thanks....thought you would like Jack1990!

Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: archaic on December 12, 2006, 09:37:22 am
I would hate to be a Nashville player right now.......I'm sure some of them are in the right state of mind and know the truth.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: stina_ar on December 12, 2006, 09:39:32 am
Oh my god.
Seriously. Is it going to be never-ending?

Its over. Accept it.
DONE.
There's always next year.
Title: Re: REPLAY WILL BE SHOWN ON CHANNELL 7
Post by: archaic on December 12, 2006, 09:41:36 am
Quote from: rooroo5118 on December 12, 2006, 09:25:51 am
wow another replay.....good job coach hembree.....there were a bunch of mistakes made that night by a bunch of different players,coaches, and referees.

what no one has said is this........and this is only my thoughts.....if his knee was NOT down then I believe this is a fumble.....the ball is truly out.....but I am not a referee!

I think this was a play that had a 50/50 chance of being called good or being called bad....the side judge on nashvilles side had a clear look at it so he must have not been certain that it was good.  

What a great high school football game and a great championship game!
it doesn't matter how or what happens in a 21-20 championship game someone is going to be upset!  Two great programs!  

overall what a dominating performance by the Scrappers.....the lumberjack defense got stingy in the red zone a couple of times but for the Scrapper Defense to give up less then 100 yards rushing and allow Warren to only complete 3 passes.....WOW!  

that is what is being taken away from all of this....the job that both teams did on the field......Scrapper Defense you are to commended for an outstanding job!


You said "If his knee was not down, then this is a fumble." Do you not know the rules of the game. The ground can't cause a fumble. It is very simple, he was in.
Title: Re: REPLAY WILL BE SHOWN ON CHANNELL 7
Post by: softyball on December 12, 2006, 09:53:13 am
Quote from: archaic on December 12, 2006, 09:41:36 am
Do you not know the rules of the game. The ground can't cause a fumble. It is very simple, he was in.

Actually, a referee posted a short while back that it could.  He said that was a common misconception.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: archaic on December 12, 2006, 09:53:17 am
Yes.......of course. You're right. There is always next year Nashville.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: stina_ar on December 12, 2006, 09:56:44 am
Quote from: archaic on December 12, 2006, 09:53:17 am
Yes.......of course. You're right. There is always next year Nashville.

Are all 156 of your posts from the last 4 days?
Title: Re: REPLAY WILL BE SHOWN ON CHANNELL 7
Post by: archaic on December 12, 2006, 09:57:01 am
What referee said that......I'd like to know. He should have his license taken away. The ground cannot cause a fumble. When the ball breaks the plane it is a score. It doesn't matter what happens afterwards.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: archaic on December 12, 2006, 10:00:06 am
If you are smart enough to figure out that J. Wright didn't score, you should be smart enough to figure that out to.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: [el_CaC] on December 12, 2006, 10:03:20 am
Quote from: archaic on December 12, 2006, 09:37:22 am
I would hate to be a Nashville player right now.......I'm sure some of them are in the right state of mind and know the truth.

Why would you hate to be a player from the state champions ???
Title: Re: REPLAY WILL BE SHOWN ON CHANNELL 7
Post by: GREEN on December 12, 2006, 10:04:12 am
Steve Sullivan said he would air it.  We will wait and see.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: archaic on December 12, 2006, 10:05:26 am
I would hate to know I held a title, really won by the other team.
Title: Re: REPLAY WILL BE SHOWN ON CHANNELL 7
Post by: softyball on December 12, 2006, 10:06:36 am
Quote from: archaic on December 12, 2006, 09:57:01 am
What referee said that......I'd like to know. He should have his license taken away. The ground cannot cause a fumble. When the ball breaks the plane it is a score. It doesn't matter what happens afterwards.


Close to the bottom of the page.  I have also seen where he says he is a referee.
http://www.fearlessfriday.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=61301.msg1240570#msg1240570
Title: Re: REPLAY WILL BE SHOWN ON CHANNELL 7
Post by: archaic on December 12, 2006, 10:09:13 am
Quote from: Fred Garvin M.P. on December 12, 2006, 10:06:36 am
Quote from: archaic on December 12, 2006, 09:57:01 am
What referee said that......I'd like to know. He should have his license taken away. The ground cannot cause a fumble. When the ball breaks the plane it is a score. It doesn't matter what happens afterwards.


Close to the bottom of the page.  I have also seen where he says he is a referee.
http://www.fearlessfriday.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=61301.msg1240570#msg1240570


I can say I'm a rocket scientist too, but that doesn't make it true. He may really be a ref. I don't know. However, I wish he could name the situation in which the ground causes a fumble.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: [el_CaC] on December 12, 2006, 10:09:43 am
Quote from: archaic on December 12, 2006, 10:05:26 am
I would hate to know I held a title, really won by the other team.

How can you say that its really held by another team? Warren lost. If it was a clear cut case that Warren was better team, then the game would have never made it to double overtime. If it was a clear cut case with all of this "video and picture proof" then everyone would be on your side claiming that Warren is the state champions and the Scrapper faithful would not be posting on the boards out of shame.
Title: Re: REPLAY WILL BE SHOWN ON CHANNELL 7
Post by: #1 STUNNA on December 12, 2006, 10:13:30 am
i would like to know to
Title: Re: REPLAY WILL BE SHOWN ON CHANNELL 7
Post by: softyball on December 12, 2006, 10:13:41 am
Quote from: archaic on December 12, 2006, 10:09:13 am
Quote from: Fred Garvin M.P. on December 12, 2006, 10:06:36 am
Quote from: archaic on December 12, 2006, 09:57:01 am
What referee said that......I'd like to know. He should have his license taken away. The ground cannot cause a fumble. When the ball breaks the plane it is a score. It doesn't matter what happens afterwards.


Close to the bottom of the page.  I have also seen where he says he is a referee.
http://www.fearlessfriday.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=61301.msg1240570#msg1240570


I can say I'm a rocket scientist too, but that doesn't make it true. He may really be a ref. I don't know. However, I wish he could name the situation in which the ground causes a fumble.

Maybe you could pm him and get an answer,  he seems fairly well spoken.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: archaic on December 12, 2006, 10:13:59 am
I just love how your stories have all changed......We go from he fumbled to he was down. Now y'all say it doesn't matter."Nashville holds the title." I've said it before, I love to watch the evolution of Scrapper excuses.
Title: Re: REPLAY WILL BE SHOWN ON CHANNELL 7
Post by: archaic on December 12, 2006, 10:15:17 am
Why don't you do that for me.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: [el_CaC] on December 12, 2006, 10:17:04 am
Quote from: archaic on December 12, 2006, 10:13:59 am
I just love how your stories have all changed......We go from he fumbled to he was down. Now y'all say it doesn't matter."Nashville holds the title." I've said it before, I love to watch the evolution of Scrapper excuses.

Actually the videos I have seen, I couldn't give you a correct call either. I had to modify it because I still am unsure from just watching the replays of it.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: yeahfairly on December 12, 2006, 10:19:11 am
I am not a fan of either team but if these two teams play each other next year, nothing will keep me out of the stands! I'll wear Hunter's Orange to the game though!
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: archaic on December 12, 2006, 10:20:08 am
That is funny............come take a look at this.......Watch and see if you see a second attempt stretch.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2717016620649470349
Title: Re: REPLAY WILL BE SHOWN ON CHANNELL 7
Post by: softyball on December 12, 2006, 10:29:37 am
Quote from: archaic on December 12, 2006, 10:15:17 am
Why don't you do that for me.

You're the one wanting to know, you ask him.
Title: Re: Did anyone hear about the controversial call in the second overtime?
Post by: Scrapper Slapper on December 12, 2006, 10:32:35 am
Quote from: xboxgameboss on December 12, 2006, 09:24:09 am
MD YOU ARE A BLOOMING IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And you sir are Albert Einstein (see I DO understand sarcasm).
Title: Re: Did anyone hear about the controversial call in the second overtime?
Post by: Scrapper Slapper on December 12, 2006, 10:33:24 am
Quote from: fobcat_ban on December 12, 2006, 09:02:20 am
Jesus Christ.
Its like a retard fest with you.

Ain't it wonderful!  They just keep on comin'!
Title: Re: REPLAY WILL BE SHOWN ON CHANNELL 7
Post by: archaic on December 12, 2006, 10:34:19 am
I already know the ground can't cause a fumble. Since your so sure it can, you ask him.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: yeahfairly on December 12, 2006, 10:41:41 am
I am a long ways from home (Arkansas) and not a fan of either team. I just watched it numerous times with a guy from Boston Mass. and a guy from McKinney Texas. They say TD! I say valiant effort on the QB and O lines part. If he would have stayed on his feet there would have been no question. He had a lane and Nashville wasn't in a position to keep him out of the endzone!
Title: Re: Amazing How The State Media Won't Touch This With A 10 Foot Pole
Post by: arkie_3_fan on December 12, 2006, 10:45:53 am
Quote from: RKO on December 11, 2006, 11:18:04 pm
It matters not just the post I left is true ill say and end that the 2 Coaches if they allow players and some are on here that post get away with this its a shame they let stuff like this go on thats clear and the rain there.Good that post I read look silly trying to read them as well make not one thing clear just babble.

Speaking of babble...   
Can someone translate this for me?
Title: Re: REPLAY WILL BE SHOWN ON CHANNELL 7
Post by: seemaumellesports.com on December 12, 2006, 10:46:04 am
I was there taking photos for Maumellesports.com. We took a few thousand photos. Mine are not up on the site yet. The other three photographers are. Mine should be up today. A bunch of people asked if we got the final play or not and my answer was I am not sure till I go through all of them. I Know that some of the other Maumellesports.com photographers do have some pictures of the last play. After going through mine so do I. Mine is from the sideline on Warren's side. I have no interest in who won or lost. I have the normal picture and I did a close up of it. My photos when they are up will start with "WA" Check it out and see?
Title: Re: REPLAY WILL BE SHOWN ON CHANNELL 7
Post by: archaic on December 12, 2006, 10:46:35 am
The only time I know of that the ground can cause a fumble is in the NFL. When a players falls without being touched and the ball comes out. The only thing is, this isn't the NFL, and he was touched anyway. This rule has no association with Arkansas High School football.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: seemaumellesports.com on December 12, 2006, 10:59:28 am
I was there taking photos for Maumellesports.com. We took a few thousand photos. Mine are not up on the site yet. The other three photographers are. Mine should be up today. A bunch of people asked if we got the final play or not and my answer was I am not sure till I go through all of them. I Know that some of the other Maumellesports.com photographers do have some pictures of the last play. After going through mine so do I. Mine is from the sideline on Warren's side. I have no interest in who won or lost. I have the normal picture and I did a close up of it. My photos when they are up will start with "WA" Check it out and see?
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: seemaumellesports.com on December 12, 2006, 11:00:46 am
I was there taking photos for Maumellesports.com. We took a few thousand photos. Mine are not up on the site yet. The other three photographers are. Mine should be up today. A bunch of people asked if we got the final play or not and my answer was I am not sure till I go through all of them. I Know that some of the other Maumellesports.com photographers do have some pictures of the last play. After going through mine so do I. Mine is from the sideline on Warren's side. I have no interest in who won or lost. I have the normal picture and I did a close up of it. My photos when they are up will start with "WA" Check it out and see?
Title: Re: I am calling out Scrapper Fans/Players/Coaches/Admin and those Blind Refs
Post by: seemaumellesports.com on December 12, 2006, 11:01:23 am
I was there taking photos for Maumellesports.com. We took a few thousand photos. Mine are not up on the site yet. The other three photographers are. Mine should be up today. A bunch of people asked if we got the final play or not and my answer was I am not sure till I go through all of them. I Know that some of the other Maumellesports.com photographers do have some pictures of the last play. After going through mine so do I. Mine is from the sideline on Warren's side. I have no interest in who won or lost. I have the normal picture and I did a close up of it. My photos when they are up will start with "WA" Check it out and see?
Title: Re: All I want for christmas this year is...
Post by: seemaumellesports.com on December 12, 2006, 11:01:47 am
I was there taking photos for Maumellesports.com. We took a few thousand photos. Mine are not up on the site yet. The other three photographers are. Mine should be up today. A bunch of people asked if we got the final play or not and my answer was I am not sure till I go through all of them. I Know that some of the other Maumellesports.com photographers do have some pictures of the last play. After going through mine so do I. Mine is from the sideline on Warren's side. I have no interest in who won or lost. I have the normal picture and I did a close up of it. My photos when they are up will start with "WA" Check it out and see?
Title: Re: REPLAY WILL BE SHOWN ON CHANNELL 7
Post by: softyball on December 12, 2006, 11:04:52 am
Quote from: archaic on December 12, 2006, 10:34:19 am
Since your so sure it can, you ask him.

Since I'm so sure?  you would say this based on what comment of mine?  Get your facts straight.  I only mentioned what the man said and showed you where he said it. If you're too afraid to talk to him, why not just get your mama to do it for you.  I will not ask your questions for you.  You do remember making the following comment don't you?

"However, I wish he could name the situation in which the ground causes a fumble."



Title: Re: All I want for christmas this year is...
Post by: stina_ar on December 12, 2006, 11:04:57 am
Quote from: Moron Detector on December 11, 2006, 11:02:53 pm
So where do you think you can find the PS3?

I have one.
I'm not willing to barter, unless you have something worthy of trade.
Title: Re: JUST GOT THROUGH WATCHING FILM AT WARREN FIELDHOUSE
Post by: seemaumellesports.com on December 12, 2006, 11:06:23 am
I was there taking photos for Maumellesports.com. We took a few thousand photos. Mine are not up on the site yet. The other three photographers are. Mine should be up today. A bunch of people asked if we got the final play or not and my answer was I am not sure till I go through all of them. I Know that some of the other Maumellesports.com photographers do have some pictures of the last play. After going through mine so do I. Mine is from the sideline on Warren's side. I have no interest in who won or lost. I have the normal picture and I did a close up of it. My photos when they are up will start with "WA" Check it out and see?
Title: Re: I've watched the replay. Here are my thoughts.
Post by: seemaumellesports.com on December 12, 2006, 11:11:16 am
I was there taking photos for Maumellesports.com. We took a few thousand photos. Mine are not up on the site yet. The other three photographers are. Mine should be up today. A bunch of people asked if we got the final play or not and my answer was I am not sure till I go through all of them. I Know that some of the other Maumellesports.com photographers do have some pictures of the last play. After going through mine so do I. Mine is from the sideline on Warren's side. I have no interest in who won or lost. I have the normal picture and I did a close up of it. My photos when they are up will start with "WA" Check it out and see?
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Sensitive on December 12, 2006, 11:13:21 am
I am a 7-4A supporter and I am proud that one of our teams has won the State Championship for the third consecutive year.  It was obvious that Nashville won every statistical category and should have scored several times when they didn't.  Overtime should never have been involved. 

That being said, the officials were wrong and Warren should should have been declared the champion. 

Not too long ago the AAA decided to impose a multiplier on private schools.  There was no research done.  The only justification offered was, "The private schools are winning too many championships."  EVERY advantage stated as a criteria for imposing the multiplier is enjoyed by multiple public schools and some of them enjoy ALL of them.  However, the AAA is controlled by representatives of schools, each of which has an agenda.  The vast majority of those represent public schools.  All of them are looking out for what is best for their individual school.  Eliminating good competition was what they considered best, so they voted for the multiplier. 

When private school supporters complained, they were told to stop whining.  "The vote was overwhelming!  It must be the right thing to do."  Would the Scrapper fans agree to award the championship trophy this year on the basis of a vote by all of the people who see the video?  No, because they would say that all of those people are just "haters."  Now you see how the private schools felt when we received the results of the AAA vote.

Should the Warren fans be told to stop whining when it is obvious that they are right?  Many are expressing that, however, why should the Jacks' fans not be able to point out an obvious injustice?

Maybe both sides can have a little better understanding of how we felt last year.
 
Title: Re: Did anyone hear about the controversial call in the second overtime?
Post by: sam on December 12, 2006, 11:19:34 am
Blooming?
Title: Re: Did anyone hear about the controversial call in the second overtime?
Post by: [el_CaC] on December 12, 2006, 11:20:42 am
Quote from: sam on December 12, 2006, 11:19:34 am
Blooming?

Hey sam... did you hear about that state title game for the AAAA?
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Jack1990 on December 12, 2006, 11:21:46 am
Very well put NLS.... 
Title: Re: Did anyone hear about the controversial call in the second overtime?
Post by: sam on December 12, 2006, 11:27:20 am
I heard Jefferson Prep won. 
Title: Re: Did anyone hear about the controversial call in the second overtime?
Post by: [el_CaC] on December 12, 2006, 11:28:58 am
Quote from: sam on December 12, 2006, 11:27:20 am
I heard Jefferson Prep won. 

Thats funny... I heard that the first blown call by officials in the past decade occured that evening.
Title: Re: Did anyone hear about the controversial call in the second overtime?
Post by: sam on December 12, 2006, 11:32:02 am
That was the site of the first ever blown call.

I've got it in google video to prove it. 

Lewisville still doesn't recognize that Championship

I wonder if that carried over to Lafayette County HS?

I wonder if they recognize that 1981 championship?

Title: Re: Did anyone hear about the controversial call in the second overtime?
Post by: EddiesMustache on December 12, 2006, 11:33:23 am
Does this mean the St. Louis Cardinals really won the 1985 World Series?  There was an obvious bad call in that game also.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: The_Preacher on December 12, 2006, 11:33:40 am
 why not if you win a classifcation you simply move up to the next level
Title: Re: No Glory for the Scrappers
Post by: sam on December 12, 2006, 11:37:54 am
Quote from: Recruitanother on December 12, 2006, 08:44:32 am
The Conversation in Nashville this week................................ WHAT SIZE DO YOU WEAR?  WELL WHAT SIZE DO YOU WEAR? HEY DO YOU THINK THAT IT WILL LOOK GOOD BESIDE THE OTHER ONE OR DO I NEED TO WEAR IT ON THE OTHER HAND.   REPEAT!!!!! REPEAT!  DYNASTY!  WELL NEXT YEAR WE MIGHT HAVE 550 TOTAL OFFENSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Great post.  That's what they should be talking about. 

People in nashville don't care about this argument.

People elsewhere are starting to care less also.

We as a nation have a small attention span.

Face it, in a couple of weeks no one will remember the official error.

Not many will even remember Warren played in that game. 

Life goes on.
Title: Re: Did anyone hear about the controversial call in the second overtime?
Post by: sam on December 12, 2006, 11:38:18 am
Call Ozzie!!!!!
Title: Re: Did anyone hear about the controversial call in the second overtime?
Post by: stina_ar on December 12, 2006, 11:40:14 am
You guys are so old.
I think I was 3 months old...
Title: Re: Did anyone hear about the controversial call in the second overtime?
Post by: [el_CaC] on December 12, 2006, 11:42:35 am
Quote from: fobcat_ban on December 12, 2006, 11:40:14 am
You guys are so old.
I think I was 3 months old...

I wasn't even born in 1985... man I feel young with you guys.
Title: Re: Did anyone hear about the controversial call in the second overtime?
Post by: stina_ar on December 12, 2006, 11:43:05 am
Are you kidding?
Title: Re: Did anyone hear about the controversial call in the second overtime?
Post by: sam on December 12, 2006, 11:43:13 am
You still think the wizard is hot though.

(http://i11.ebayimg.com/01/i/08/ee/1a/44_1.JPG)


Title: Re: Did anyone hear about the controversial call in the second overtime?
Post by: EddiesMustache on December 12, 2006, 11:45:38 am
Ozzie is no Willie McGee

(http://www.apeculture.com/images/williemcgee.jpg)
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: The critic on December 12, 2006, 11:46:17 am
Nashville should give up the trophy.  They know the guy got in.
Title: Re: Did anyone hear about the controversial call in the second overtime?
Post by: Scrapper Slapper on December 12, 2006, 11:46:44 am
Does the name Don Denkinger make anyone else want to puke?
Title: Re: Did anyone hear about the controversial call in the second overtime?
Post by: stina_ar on December 12, 2006, 11:47:17 am
I'd marry Ozzie Smith in a heartbeat.




Or half the town of Fordyce, right? ha. ha. ha. ha.
Title: Re: Did anyone hear about the controversial call in the second overtime?
Post by: EddiesMustache on December 12, 2006, 11:47:54 am
Quote from: Moron Detector on December 12, 2006, 11:46:44 am
Does the name Don Denkinger make anyone else want to puke?

I hear he works in the instant replay booth at the University of Oregon
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: sam on December 12, 2006, 11:48:58 am
Quote from: O.T.C on December 10, 2006, 01:55:24 am
Don't be ignorant kid.....The kid had his hands all the way across the line...All the ball has to do is break the plain...not go all the way across it...just break the plain. And the ground can't cause a fumble.

Bottom line is that Warren won the game. If Nashville people can take pride in a stolen state championship....Go for it.

They are currently going for it as we speak.  Bo inspired them. 
I know y'all want them not to enjoy winning state, but I have news for you............................they are. 

Quote from: phinupi on December 11, 2006, 05:32:24 pm
I totally agree with you guys.  Warren's community should have a victory parade for the team.

I want to be grand marshal. 
Title: Re: Did anyone hear about the controversial call in the second overtime?
Post by: Scrapper Slapper on December 12, 2006, 11:49:06 am
Are you sure he doesn't officiate Arkansas high school football?
Title: Re: Did anyone hear about the controversial call in the second overtime?
Post by: EddiesMustache on December 12, 2006, 11:49:25 am
Quote from: fobcat_ban on December 12, 2006, 11:47:17 am
I'd marry Ozzie Smith in a heartbeat.




Or half the town of Fordyce, right? ha. ha. ha. ha.
Title: Re: Did anyone hear about the controversial call in the second overtime?
Post by: EddiesMustache on December 12, 2006, 11:50:17 am
Quote from: Moron Detector on December 12, 2006, 11:49:06 am
Are you sure he doesn't officiate Arkansas high school football?

He disguises himself as a large black man these days.
Title: Re: Did anyone hear about the controversial call in the second overtime?
Post by: [el_CaC] on December 12, 2006, 11:52:35 am
Quote from: fobcat_ban on December 12, 2006, 11:43:05 am
Are you kidding?

Born at the beginning of 87.


So anyways, using my super slow mo, instant, live, up close and personal footage from the game... I can safely say, that using simple logic the call that the ref made, in my own personal opinion, that should be set in stone... ultimately marking the true outcome of the game, should be... without a shadow of a doubt, and with no objections.... still deemed as unclear. Where do people get the whole "It is clear in this horrible quality, lopsided angle from the back of the end zone(you know where the ref that made the call was standing that you Warren people seem to have trouble with making the call in the first place) that the two point was good!"


1985... wasn't that back in the day Barry Bonds was still like 170 something?
Title: Re: REPLAY WILL BE SHOWN ON CHANNELL 7
Post by: The critic on December 12, 2006, 11:53:06 am
I'm an official and I can tell you the ground can't cause a fumble.  And like someone else post above, once the ball breaks the plain of the goalline, its a touchdown.  So if he loses control of the ball after he breaks the plain, it don't matter, its still a TD. 
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: FooseballGuru on December 12, 2006, 11:53:16 am
Quote from: The_Preacher on December 12, 2006, 11:33:40 am
why not if you win a classifcation you simply move up to the next level

Do you actually believe  the crap that you post?
Title: Re: Did anyone hear about the controversial call in the second overtime?
Post by: sam on December 12, 2006, 11:54:42 am
He was a lot younger than that in 85.  He was still at ariz. state.

The call will be forgotten soon.  Life will go on in Warren. 

The preach will preach and the lumberjack mascot will creep. 
Title: Re: Did anyone hear about the controversial call in the second overtime?
Post by: EddiesMustache on December 12, 2006, 11:55:04 am
Quote from: [el_CaC] on December 12, 2006, 11:52:35 am
1985... wasn't that back in the day Barry Bonds was still like 170 something?

Yes...but his dad was still a drunk, though
Title: Re: No Glory for the Scrappers
Post by: The critic on December 12, 2006, 11:56:24 am
Be sure to put tainted on those rings to.
Title: Re: Did anyone hear about the controversial call in the second overtime?
Post by: [el_CaC] on December 12, 2006, 11:58:46 am
Quote from: sam on December 12, 2006, 11:54:42 am
He was a lot younger than that in 85.  He was still at ariz. state.

The call will be forgotten soon.  Life will go on in Warren. 

The preach will preach and the lumberjack mascot will creep. 

Next time I will make sure to put weighing; weighing 170.

Did you guys know that studying for an Algebra Final seems to be amazingly easier when you are posting on FF as opposed to doing the study.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: The_Preacher on December 12, 2006, 11:58:54 am
 well it would make  more sense than some of the comment being make and  even some of your if I recall. and why not PA moved up two and was in the championship and the main deal is not to allow  one team to get all the glory  if I understand it all right.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: sam on December 12, 2006, 11:59:15 am
Quote from: The critic on December 12, 2006, 11:46:17 am
Nashville should give up the trophy.  They know the guy got in.

I agree with this moron.  They should give the trophy to Warren.  They should also give them last year's trophy as interest on the 3 days they've had it. 
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Scrapper Slapper on December 12, 2006, 11:59:53 am
Quote from: The_Preacher on December 12, 2006, 11:58:54 am
well it would make  more sense than some of the comment being make and  even some of your if I recall. and why not PA moved up two and was in the championship and the main deal is not to allow  one team to get all the glory  if I understand it all right.

PA moved up one.  Baptist moved up two and got killed.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: FooseballGuru on December 12, 2006, 12:00:58 pm
Quote from: The_Preacher on December 12, 2006, 11:58:54 am
well it would make  more sense than some of the comment being make and  even some of your if I recall. and why not PA moved up two and was in the championship and the main deal is not to allow  one team to get all the glory  if I understand it all right.

gee whiz. I'm gonna have to find my decoder ring from back in the day, If you expect to have a conversation with you.
Title: Re: REPLAY WILL BE SHOWN ON CHANNELL 7
Post by: archaic on December 12, 2006, 12:02:15 pm
Quote from: The critic on December 12, 2006, 11:53:06 am
I'm an official and I can tell you the ground can't cause a fumble.  And like someone else post above, once the ball breaks the plain of the goalline, its a touchdown.  So if he loses control of the ball after he breaks the plain, it don't matter, its still a TD. 

Exactly
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: papabear on December 12, 2006, 12:02:16 pm
Quote from: The critic on December 12, 2006, 11:46:17 am
Nashville should give up the trophy.  They know the guy got in.

Would you?

I sure as heck wouldn't.  Bad call? Who cares in 10 years, except Warren?  Should you hand back your diploma because you cheated on one test?  Do you confess to the police every time you break the speed limit?  

Look at it this way.  Nashville dominated Warren the whole game and took home the trophy.  I wouldn't give it up, either.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: sam on December 12, 2006, 12:03:32 pm
Nobody will care in 10 days. 
Title: Re: I am calling out Scrapper Fans/Players/Coaches/Admin and those Blind Refs
Post by: cas62 on December 12, 2006, 12:04:19 pm
how can you say stuff like that because you know if the shoe was on the other foot you would problay prasieing the refs. so do us all a favor and stop crying the call was made its over live with it.
Title: Re: No Glory for the Scrappers
Post by: sam on December 12, 2006, 12:04:47 pm
Quote from: The critic on December 12, 2006, 11:56:24 am
Be sure to put tainted on those rings to.

It won't fit.  They can't fit back to back, the picture of the warren guy stretching across the goal line, and tainted on it. 
Title: Re: Did anyone hear about the controversial call in the second overtime?
Post by: stina_ar on December 12, 2006, 12:05:36 pm
Quote from: [el_CaC] on December 12, 2006, 11:58:46 am
Quote from: sam on December 12, 2006, 11:54:42 am
He was a lot younger than that in 85.  He was still at ariz. state.

The call will be forgotten soon.  Life will go on in Warren. 

The preach will preach and the lumberjack mascot will creep. 

Next time I will make sure to put weighing; weighing 170.

Did you guys know that studying for an Algebra Final seems to be amazingly easier when you are posting on FF as opposed to doing the study.

Works the same way with all finals...except my sociology experiment finals.
Your grades seem to turn out better...or worse, depending on how much you procrastinate on FF combined with facebook and a pinch of myspace.
Title: Re: I am calling out Scrapper Fans/Players/Coaches/Admin and those Blind Refs
Post by: sam on December 12, 2006, 12:05:49 pm
Quote from: Vice President RD on December 11, 2006, 09:51:38 pm
How did you get up Sunday morning and look at yourself in the mirror? The rest of the state has seen it, they know, apparently the truth is blind to you, and you can't see past your orange colored glasses.

Head Coach Billy Dawson should do the right thing and give the trophy back to the AAA, how someone can even accept a tainted title is beyond me. For those that have Nashville Back 2 Back Champs in your signature, you should be ashamed, you're not the champions, you know it deep, deep, deep down in your heart.

To those Referees, turn your stripes in, and your whistles, you suck at life. Get another spare time job flipping burgers at McDonalds and asking "would you like more fries with that?". Because that is all you're qualified to do.


Dumb
Title: Re: I am calling out Scrapper Fans/Players/Coaches/Admin and those Blind Refs
Post by: archaic on December 12, 2006, 12:06:53 pm
Quote from: cas62 on December 12, 2006, 12:04:19 pm
how can you say stuff like that because you know if the shoe was on the other foot you would problay prasieing the refs. so do us all a favor and stop crying the call was made its over live with it.

And you know if it went Warren's way.......you would be just as upset at us.
Title: Re: Did anyone hear about the controversial call in the second overtime?
Post by: [el_CaC] on December 12, 2006, 12:08:44 pm
Quote from: fobcat_ban on December 12, 2006, 12:05:36 pm
Quote from: [el_CaC] on December 12, 2006, 11:58:46 am
Quote from: sam on December 12, 2006, 11:54:42 am
He was a lot younger than that in 85.  He was still at ariz. state.

The call will be forgotten soon.  Life will go on in Warren. 

The preach will preach and the lumberjack mascot will creep. 

Next time I will make sure to put weighing; weighing 170.

Did you guys know that studying for an Algebra Final seems to be amazingly easier when you are posting on FF as opposed to doing the study.

Works the same way with all finals...except my sociology experiment finals.
Your grades seem to turn out better...or worse, depending on how much you procrastinate on FF combined with facebook and a pinch of myspace.

Facebook + Fearless Friday + Finals = Equal a letter grade that has something in common with the letter that all those words have starting them ;D
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: archaic on December 12, 2006, 12:09:09 pm
Quote from: papabear on December 12, 2006, 12:02:16 pm
Quote from: The critic on December 12, 2006, 11:46:17 am
Nashville should give up the trophy.  They know the guy got in.

Would you?

I sure as heck wouldn't.  Bad call? Who cares in 10 years, except Warren?  Should you hand back your diploma because you cheated on one test?  Do you confess to the police every time you break the speed limit?  

Look at it this way.  Nashville dominated Warren the whole game and took home the trophy.  I wouldn't give it up, either.


I'm sick and tired of hearing people talk about how Nashville dominated the game. Does a 14-14 tie sound like domination to you?
Title: Re: Did anyone hear about the controversial call in the second overtime?
Post by: stina_ar on December 12, 2006, 12:10:13 pm
The guys who invented facebook should receive an award for making us that much less motivated.
Title: Re: I am calling out Scrapper Fans/Players/Coaches/Admin and those Blind Refs
Post by: [el_CaC] on December 12, 2006, 12:10:17 pm
I challenge the ref of that game to an arm wrestling match to settle this whole issue once and for all!!!!!
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: sam on December 12, 2006, 12:10:29 pm
I'm with archaic.

No one dominates the other in an overtime game.
Title: Re: Did anyone hear about the controversial call in the second overtime?
Post by: archaic on December 12, 2006, 12:11:13 pm
In my opinion, Fearless Friday+Facebook=bad grades.
Title: Re: I am calling out Scrapper Fans/Players/Coaches/Admin and those Blind Refs
Post by: sam on December 12, 2006, 12:11:17 pm
He should have a foot-race with Dawson.  Loser leave town. 
Title: Re: Did anyone hear about the controversial call in the second overtime?
Post by: stina_ar on December 12, 2006, 12:11:37 pm
LOL
Title: Re: I am calling out Scrapper Fans/Players/Coaches/Admin and those Blind Refs
Post by: [el_CaC] on December 12, 2006, 12:13:39 pm
While I am at it....


I am challenging the Jumbotron to a street fight.
Title: Re: Did anyone hear about the controversial call in the second overtime?
Post by: stina_ar on December 12, 2006, 12:13:57 pm
You know, I noticed today that I've spent the last two days in the "I wish my homework was asexual so it would do itself" group boards than I have studying for my Social Politics final...
Title: Re: Did anyone hear about the controversial call in the second overtime?
Post by: archaic on December 12, 2006, 12:16:07 pm
I know what you mean.
Title: Re: Did anyone hear about the controversial call in the second overtime?
Post by: EddiesMustache on December 12, 2006, 12:17:23 pm
Back to football...can Greenland stop Heber's playaction pass this week?
Title: Re: Did anyone hear about the controversial call in the second overtime?
Post by: [el_CaC] on December 12, 2006, 12:18:15 pm
Quote from: EddiesMustache on December 12, 2006, 12:17:23 pm
Back to football...can Greenland stop Heber's playaction pass this week?

I believe the team with the fewest turnovers will win this game.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: GREEN on December 12, 2006, 12:18:37 pm
I will care in 10 days.  I will care in 10 years. 

I also have something to say about this whole thing that Nashville played a great game and deserved to win.  They played a great game and they BLEW IT IN CRUNCH TIME!!!  Therefore the game DID come down to one play (which was called wrong).  We should have been in overtime because Warren held them when it counted!  Warren didn't let them score when they were close to scoring.  And Nashville blew it with the kick.  Stop acting like Nashville should win due to stats!  Good stats or not, they blew it when it counted!
Title: Re: Did anyone hear about the controversial call in the second overtime?
Post by: EddiesMustache on December 12, 2006, 12:19:09 pm
It's going to be a field position battle.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: papabear on December 12, 2006, 12:19:17 pm
Quote from: archaic on December 12, 2006, 12:09:09 pm
I'm sick and tired of hearing people talk about how Nashville dominated the game. Does a 14-14 tie sound like domination to you?


Hypothetical situation:

Team A drives downfield on Team B at will all night, but somehow fumbles the ball at the 1 yard line every time.  Team A has 1278 yards of total offense and 59 first downs.  Team B can't get out of the shadow of their own goal posts all night (they do have a great punter) exept once, a 99 yd sweep.  Team B ends up with 120 yards of total offense, zero first downs, but wins the game.  Which team dominated?
Title: Re: Did anyone hear about the controversial call in the second overtime?
Post by: [el_CaC] on December 12, 2006, 12:20:32 pm
This game will be won in the trenches.
Title: Re: Did anyone hear about the controversial call in the second overtime?
Post by: stina_ar on December 12, 2006, 12:20:39 pm
Quote from: EddiesMustache on December 12, 2006, 12:19:09 pm
It's going to be a feel-position battle.


No, you're thinking about your mom.
Title: Re: Amazing How The State Media Won't Touch This With A 10 Foot Pole
Post by: dc24 on December 12, 2006, 12:21:04 pm
Quote from: Recruitanother on December 12, 2006, 08:36:51 am
It's time to move on. It is time for Warren to start talking about next year.  I think that the real lesson here is "Do not leave the decision up to the ref's" I can assure you that Nashville wishes they had just made one of the fieldgoals so that (by the way one of them would have been good on a regular high school set of Goal post) the game would never have been left up to the final call. Bye the way if you want to get on the refs how about the two no calls where the Warren players ran into the kicker after the filedgoal attempt. Yes they called it the first time, but it happened two other times with no call. I am sure that Warren would have felt bad if Nashville had gotten another play at the end of the first over time.  There are so many plays that could have gone differently in the game, but that happens in everygame. That is the Nature of this sport. GOod Calls, bad calls, Good plays, bad plays, rights wrongs happen alot. It is amazing that we only remember one during the game.  In Fact if your linemen were not downfield we might not even be talking about this today!   Oh well! The fact is the Scrappers won! That is what it will always say in the record books.  SO lets talk about next year!    .........    Dynasty  (Three Peat)???????????

Warren DID NOT run into the kicker the other two times.  Heck we barely gave him a love tap the first time on that EP.
Title: Re: Did anyone hear about the controversial call in the second overtime?
Post by: EddiesMustache on December 12, 2006, 12:22:43 pm
Quote from: fobcat_ban on December 12, 2006, 12:20:39 pm
Quote from: EddiesMustache on December 12, 2006, 12:19:09 pm
It's going to be a feel-position battle.


No, you're thinking about MY mom.

I know
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: rooroo5118 on December 12, 2006, 12:23:36 pm
archaic......the scrappers will think about you when we design our ring on friday!  our kids played the game like the do every week and the referees call the game like they do every week.  why should our kids not enjoy their state championship....the referee said he didn't make it.....so to our boys that tells them THEY WIN!!!

all this whining does not surprise me at all....i have seen the warren fans at baseball,softball, and football games before and everytime they lose.....it is ALWAYS someone elses fault......most of the time the referees or umpires....bunch of whiners in that town!  Deal with it...YOU are 4A State RUNNER-UPS!
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: sam on December 12, 2006, 12:23:49 pm
Did team B really get in on the touchdown run?

If not, team A will say they should get tainted put on their rings.
Title: Re: Did anyone hear about the controversial call in the second overtime?
Post by: sam on December 12, 2006, 12:25:27 pm
Back to football.

Nashville should give the trophy back and never play football again. 

Their rings should have little spurs on them so it will hurt every time they put them on. 
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: [el_CaC] on December 12, 2006, 12:27:20 pm
Quote from: sam on December 12, 2006, 12:23:49 pm
Did team B really get in on the touchdown run?

If not, team A will say they should get tainted put on their rings.

I remember this tainted title crap back when Greenwood and Wynne played in the title game back in the old AAAA a couple of years ago... anyone even remember who won that game?

greenwood
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: archaic on December 12, 2006, 12:28:01 pm
Quote from: rooroo5118 on December 12, 2006, 12:23:36 pm
archaic......the scrappers will think about you when we design our ring on friday!  our kids played the game like the do every week and the referees call the game like they do every week.  why should our kids not enjoy their state championship....the referee said he didn't make it.....so to our boys that tells them THEY WIN!!!

all this whining does not surprise me at all....i have seen the warren fans at baseball,softball, and football games before and everytime they lose.....it is ALWAYS someone elses fault......most of the time the referees or umpires....bunch of whiners in that town!  Deal with it...YOU are 4A State RUNNER-UPS!


Yea..........Can you deal with the fact that J. Wright scored? One more question. Are y'all going to by one for the back judge.
Title: Re: Did anyone hear about the controversial call in the second overtime?
Post by: [el_CaC] on December 12, 2006, 12:28:10 pm
I have already openly challenged the ref that made the call and the Jumbotron to a steel cage match for the State Championship.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: GREEN on December 12, 2006, 12:29:53 pm
Quote from: rooroo5118 on December 12, 2006, 12:23:36 pm
archaic......the scrappers will think about you when we design our ring on friday!  our kids played the game like the do every week and the referees call the game like they do every week.  why should our kids not enjoy their state championship....the referee said he didn't make it.....so to our boys that tells them THEY WIN!!!

all this whining does not surprise me at all....i have seen the warren fans at baseball,softball, and football games before and everytime they lose.....it is ALWAYS someone elses fault......most of the time the referees or umpires....bunch of whiners in that town!  Deal with it...YOU are 4A State RUNNER-UPS!

Nobody respects you or your title....DEAL WITH IT!
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: sam on December 12, 2006, 12:30:55 pm
If you get the AAA to reverse the call it will be like trading one state championship for another because I have conclusive video evidence showing the fumble McKinney returned for a TD in the 01 game should have never happened.  Brad West's knee was down.  You will actually be trading the 01 state championship for the 06 one. 

By the way, nothing will ever be done and we accepted that.

You will too.

Congrats Nashville
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: stina_ar on December 12, 2006, 12:31:08 pm
Yeah. Nobody respects a team that went 28-0 with back to back state championships.

Nashville sucks.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: GREEN on December 12, 2006, 12:32:42 pm
Nobody respects the title.
Title: Re: Did anyone hear about the controversial call in the second overtime?
Post by: sam on December 12, 2006, 12:32:45 pm
The back judge and I will ref it.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: sam on December 12, 2006, 12:33:08 pm
Keep telling yourself that. 
Title: Re: Did anyone hear about the controversial call in the second overtime?
Post by: [el_CaC] on December 12, 2006, 12:35:54 pm
Quote from: sam on December 12, 2006, 12:32:45 pm
The back judge and I will ref it.

You do know that if I do end up winning the State Championship... I would be slapped with a multiplier because I bare the initials of evil.
Title: Re: Amazing How The State Media Won't Touch This With A 10 Foot Pole
Post by: sam on December 12, 2006, 12:37:07 pm
Quote from: Bleachermom on December 12, 2006, 01:23:01 am
Quote from: Sweet on December 11, 2006, 11:20:29 pm
The thing about it is that it happens every day. My daughter was on the wrong end of a bad call for a title game. But as I parent I knew that the right thing to do was to make shure she learned the lesson of moving on even in adversity.
This dad is absolutely correct. We dealt with "unfairness" with out son last Friday night. The fans, coaches, even the other team's TV announcers, and the video showed the ref was absolutely wrong. Maybe, when my son or I make no mistakes for one whole day, I'll take the tape to the AAA and get the ref fired. (We all know the ref's job is safe for a long, long time.) Errors are part of life and sports is a very good arena for teaching kids to do their best, regardless.

Holy Crap!!!!

Was that some common sense?

Out of nowhere!!!!!
Title: Re: Amazing How The State Media Won't Touch This With A 10 Foot Pole
Post by: [el_CaC] on December 12, 2006, 12:38:59 pm
I vote that we refrain from using common sense when discussing this issue... man law.
Title: Re: Amazing How The State Media Won't Touch This With A 10 Foot Pole
Post by: sam on December 12, 2006, 12:40:53 pm
Yeah, lets give trophies back, have parades, put tainted on rings, whine, write letters to the AAA, not recognize championships, call dawson fat, work all day on videos, and teach our kids how to handle adversity.
Title: Re: Did anyone hear about the controversial call in the second overtime?
Post by: sam on December 12, 2006, 12:41:56 pm
You might just get Rick Flair slapped.  That ref looked pretty physical. 
Title: Re: Amazing How The State Media Won't Touch This With A 10 Foot Pole
Post by: phdefense on December 12, 2006, 12:42:36 pm
Quote from: sam on December 12, 2006, 12:40:53 pm
Yeah, lets give trophies back, have parades, put tainted on rings, whine, write letters to the AAA, not recognize championships, call dawson fat, work all day on videos, and teach our kids how to handle adversity.

Should we teach our kids to pursue the truth?
Title: Re: Did anyone hear about the controversial call in the second overtime?
Post by: [el_CaC] on December 12, 2006, 12:43:46 pm
Quote from: sam on December 12, 2006, 12:41:56 pm
You might just get Rick Flair slapped.  That ref looked pretty physical. 

Yea I think him and the Jumbotron have the since advantage, but I am wirey.
Title: Re: Amazing How The State Media Won't Touch This With A 10 Foot Pole
Post by: sam on December 12, 2006, 12:43:53 pm
Sure, through fuzzy videos.
Title: Re: Amazing How The State Media Won't Touch This With A 10 Foot Pole
Post by: phdefense on December 12, 2006, 12:45:54 pm
Quote from: sam on December 12, 2006, 12:43:53 pm
Sure, through fuzzy videos.

I would prefer that to apathy.
Title: Re: Amazing How The State Media Won't Touch This With A 10 Foot Pole
Post by: [el_CaC] on December 12, 2006, 12:48:17 pm
Quote from: phdefense on December 12, 2006, 12:42:36 pm
Quote from: sam on December 12, 2006, 12:40:53 pm
Yeah, lets give trophies back, have parades, put tainted on rings, whine, write letters to the AAA, not recognize championships, call dawson fat, work all day on videos, and teach our kids how to handle adversity.

Should we teach our kids to pursue the truth?

Then we should go back and pursue to correct every mishap and blown call that has happened in high school football. This is the not the first time and will not be the last time.
Title: Re: Amazing How The State Media Won't Touch This With A 10 Foot Pole
Post by: sam on December 12, 2006, 12:52:18 pm
Yeah, I'm owed several games. 

I'll have to get my patches fixed on my letterjacket. 
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: seark66 on December 12, 2006, 12:52:43 pm
All you Nashville folks have to do is watch this tape...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2717016620649470349

Nashville Scrappers - 2006 Howard County Champions
Title: Re: Amazing How The State Media Won't Touch This With A 10 Foot Pole
Post by: phdefense on December 12, 2006, 12:55:56 pm
Quote from: [el_CaC] on December 12, 2006, 12:48:17 pm
Quote from: phdefense on December 12, 2006, 12:42:36 pm
Quote from: sam on December 12, 2006, 12:40:53 pm
Yeah, lets give trophies back, have parades, put tainted on rings, whine, write letters to the AAA, not recognize championships, call dawson fat, work all day on videos, and teach our kids how to handle adversity.

Should we teach our kids to pursue the truth?

Then we should go back and pursue to correct every mishap and blown call that has happened in high school football. This is the not the first time and will not be the last time.

Are these forums not for discussion? What would you propose to be discussed on the "Class 4A Bulletin Board Material"?

Are you saying that accepting that things are the way they are is preferable to finding out the truth?Is the truth not worth knowing? Is it only viable if the outcome can be changed?
Title: Re: Amazing How The State Media Won't Touch This With A 10 Foot Pole
Post by: tradition on December 12, 2006, 01:01:19 pm
Quote from: The_Preacher on December 11, 2006, 09:02:23 pm
well it's people some-what like yourself that seem to want put themselves above this type of situation; is the why the schools our schools are in as bad a shape as they are because there is no one willing to stand in the gap- wre have stood back and just let  the whole nation go to heck in a hand basket.  nothing personal but that comment  just set me off it's time some stood up.

This is a controversial call in a high school football game.  I agree that people who hold ethical and moral convictions should take a stand, but there is a huge difference about a 'blown' call in a game and our education and nations. Just because someone will wash their hands of a post on a football board doesn't mean that they won't take a stand on the important stuff.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: tradition on December 12, 2006, 01:03:27 pm
Quote from: seark66 on December 12, 2006, 12:52:43 pm
All you Nashville folks have to do is watch this tape...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2717016620649470349

Nashville Scrappers - 2006 Howard County Champions

You know what?  You still haven't shown me conclusive proof. 
Title: Re: Amazing How The State Media Won't Touch This With A 10 Foot Pole
Post by: gameoflife on December 12, 2006, 01:07:09 pm
I don't know if the call was correct or not, and the pictures I have seen are not conclusive.  IF we are worried about bad calls that costs games, that happens all the time, this is worse because it happened at the end of a game with no way to make up for it later.  IF the same thing happened in the first qtr, not as much attention would be gained.   I have seen bad calls in a basketball game at the end that allowed a team to go to the foul line to win games they would have lost. Or bad no calls that might have given the team witht he ball a shot, literally at winning.  Problem is that not too many people are trying to get into officiating so the crews are older and behind the game sometimes.  Like I said, its bad and not really getting better, all you can hope for is their best effort.
Title: Re: All I want for christmas this year is...
Post by: bradyfan on December 12, 2006, 01:08:03 pm
Quote from: Romeo on December 11, 2006, 11:00:03 pm
(1). For the AAA to add instant replay to the state championship next year.
(2). For the referees who blew that call to be permanently banned from officiating games.
(3). For the AAA to add an *
(4). To find a PS3 thats under $1000
(5). For Nashville and Warren fans to quit acting like North and South Korea

(6). and finally to at least have ONE nashville fan admit that it was a blown call


I'd say I probably get one out of six


well from what i hear, down at the local YMCA, the director has ordered a box of red flags, and has sent out a training video to Susie Q. who video tapes every one of the peewee games....
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: JACK D BACK 27 on December 12, 2006, 01:09:51 pm
warren wins
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: OldScrap on December 12, 2006, 01:12:25 pm
<<I am a 7-4A supporter and I am proud that one of our teams has won the State Championship for the third consecutive year.  It was obvious that Nashville won every statistical category and should have scored several times when they didn't.  Overtime should never have been involved. >>


Are you saying the game should not have gone in over time as the rules require? That at the end of the 4th quarter the game should have been declared a tie and all rules thrown out? Or Warren should have been declared the winner at the end of the 4th quarter when it was only a tied game?

I agree we should have scored those times you speak of, I feel assured those for and from Warren thinks Warren should have not have made some to the mistakes they did. But in the heat of battle, when the 2 best teams in Arkansas are playing, mistakes happen on both sides. Warren should be happy about Nashville's missed field goals, it kept them in the game.

<<That being said, the officials were wrong and Warren should should have been declared the champion.>> 

Do you think in every game when the official makes a call and some object, it should not stand but be changed? Where would it end?

<<When private school supporters complained, they were told to stop whining.  "The vote was overwhelming!  It must be the right thing to do."  Would the Scrapper fans agree to award the championship trophy this year on the basis of a vote by all of the people who see the video?  No, because they would say that all of those people are just "haters."  Now you see how the private schools felt when we received the results of the AAA vote. >>

Has it not always been the majority rule? Why all of a sudden should that change? Every school in the AAA agrees to go by its rules that have made, if they don't like them they can try to change them or they can get out, their choice.


<<Maybe both sides can have a little better understanding of how we felt last year.>>

I have a great understanding, at the end of a game the one who loses many times will come up with some excuse. And I understand the one who loses is not happy, in fact some get down right bitter. But again, going into the game both teams agreed to abide by the calls the refer made, even if they disagree with them.

And in any close call there is going to be disagreement by the one who thinks the call went against them, that is just the way its going to be. But no amount of griping will change the call, everyone will have to live with it. One with good sportsmanship goes by the rules that are in place that they have already agreed to abide by.

I find this neat, Nashville did not rush out onto the field declaring their self the winner, they waited till the official call was made, them they took to the field as the winners should.

Why didn't Warren wait on the official call? No, they jumped the gun and rushed the field not waiting on the official call, acting as they were the winner before the official announcement was made.

Big contrast isn't it.  Make your own decision about the meaning of this. But it does show class and the lack of it.

But at the of this day, just as it was the end of yesterday, Scrappers are the 2006 Champs.

Congratulations to both the Scrapper and the Lumberjacks for making it to WMS and playing a great game, in my eyes both teams are winners, but it would be nice if everyone would act like winners instead of spoiled sports. The only thing that is tainted is the character of some posters. And they are doing it to their self.
Title: Re: Amazing How The State Media Won't Touch This With A 10 Foot Pole
Post by: sam on December 12, 2006, 01:15:11 pm
Ok, go find the truth.  You have sam's permission. 

BTW, what are you gonna do with it if you find it?
Title: Re: Amazing How The State Media Won't Touch This With A 10 Foot Pole
Post by: phdefense on December 12, 2006, 01:25:22 pm
Quote from: sam on December 12, 2006, 01:15:11 pm
BTW, what are you gonna do with it if you find it?

Know it. That in itself makes it worth doing.
Title: Re: All I want for christmas this year is...
Post by: sam on December 12, 2006, 01:35:21 pm
Instant replay in the championship game?

That was a joke wasn't it?

Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: sam on December 12, 2006, 02:06:36 pm
I thought Nashville won?

The AAA thinks so too.

http://fac.hsu.edu/mitchet/livestats/aaa/4a/

I'm gonna go with what they say.
Title: Re: I am calling out Scrapper Fans/Players/Coaches/Admin and those Blind Refs
Post by: bradyfan on December 12, 2006, 02:06:47 pm
i challenge the ref to a game of "i spy" and if there is a tie, the overtime will be a race through a "wheres waldo" book....i think i have the edge on him
Title: Re: I am calling out Scrapper Fans/Players/Coaches/Admin and those Blind Refs
Post by: stina_ar on December 12, 2006, 02:12:18 pm
Quote from: Vice President RD on December 11, 2006, 09:51:38 pm
How did you get up Sunday morning and look at yourself in the mirror? The rest of the state has seen it, they know, apparently the truth is blind to you, and you can't see past your orange colored glasses.

Head Coach Billy Dawson should do the right thing and give the trophy back to the AAA, how someone can even accept a tainted title is beyond me. For those that have Nashville Back 2 Back Champs in your signature, you should be ashamed, you're not the champions, you know it deep, deep, deep down in your heart.

To those Referees, turn your stripes in, and your whistles, you suck at life. Get another spare time job flipping burgers at McDonalds and asking "would you like more fries with that?". Because that is all you're qualified to do.


1) its a high school football game

2) its a lot easier to make calls from the stands. Why don't you join the officating crew?
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: phdefense on December 12, 2006, 02:16:40 pm
Quote from: sam on December 12, 2006, 02:06:36 pm
I thought Nashville won?

The AAA thinks so too.

http://fac.hsu.edu/mitchet/livestats/aaa/4a/

I'm gonna go with what they say.


Booneville lost in 2001, but that doesn't keep you from bringing it up 5 years later. Don't let a little thing like hypocrisy get in your way though.
Title: Re: I am calling out Scrapper Fans/Players/Coaches/Admin and those Blind Refs
Post by: sam on December 12, 2006, 02:19:25 pm
3. I think Greenwood won on a tainted call.  It was a 1 point game and I promise I could find a call that could have gone PA's way in there somewhere. 

RD, turn over your title.

And to think, I used to think he knew a little about the game.   

Anybody with even a rat turd for a brain knows that this sort of thing happens all the time. 
Title: Re: I am calling out Scrapper Fans/Players/Coaches/Admin and those Blind Refs
Post by: phdefense on December 12, 2006, 02:19:44 pm
Quote from: fobcat_ban on December 12, 2006, 02:12:18 pm
Quote from: Vice President RD on December 11, 2006, 09:51:38 pm
How did you get up Sunday morning and look at yourself in the mirror? The rest of the state has seen it, they know, apparently the truth is blind to you, and you can't see past your orange colored glasses.

Head Coach Billy Dawson should do the right thing and give the trophy back to the AAA, how someone can even accept a tainted title is beyond me. For those that have Nashville Back 2 Back Champs in your signature, you should be ashamed, you're not the champions, you know it deep, deep, deep down in your heart.

To those Referees, turn your stripes in, and your whistles, you suck at life. Get another spare time job flipping burgers at McDonalds and asking "would you like more fries with that?". Because that is all you're qualified to do.


1) its a high school football game

2) its a lot easier to make calls from the stands. Why don't you join the officating crew?

With an avatar like that don't you think you should put more effort in to using correct spelling and grammar?

its= possessive
it's = it is
Title: Re: I am calling out Scrapper Fans/Players/Coaches/Admin and those Blind Refs
Post by: stina_ar on December 12, 2006, 02:22:29 pm
Quote from: phdefense on December 12, 2006, 02:19:44 pm
Quote from: fobcat_ban on December 12, 2006, 02:12:18 pm
Quote from: Vice President RD on December 11, 2006, 09:51:38 pm
How did you get up Sunday morning and look at yourself in the mirror? The rest of the state has seen it, they know, apparently the truth is blind to you, and you can't see past your orange colored glasses.

Head Coach Billy Dawson should do the right thing and give the trophy back to the AAA, how someone can even accept a tainted title is beyond me. For those that have Nashville Back 2 Back Champs in your signature, you should be ashamed, you're not the champions, you know it deep, deep, deep down in your heart.

To those Referees, turn your stripes in, and your whistles, you suck at life. Get another spare time job flipping burgers at McDonalds and asking "would you like more fries with that?". Because that is all you're qualified to do.


1) its a high school football game

2) its a lot easier to make calls from the stands. Why don't you join the officating crew?

With an avatar like that don't you think you should put more effort in to using correct spelling and grammar?


What? You act like hypocrites have to do as they say and not as they do.
Title: Re: I am calling out Scrapper Fans/Players/Coaches/Admin and those Blind Refs
Post by: phdefense on December 12, 2006, 02:23:59 pm
Quote from: fobcat_ban on December 12, 2006, 02:22:29 pm
Quote from: phdefense on December 12, 2006, 02:19:44 pm
Quote from: fobcat_ban on December 12, 2006, 02:12:18 pm
Quote from: Vice President RD on December 11, 2006, 09:51:38 pm
How did you get up Sunday morning and look at yourself in the mirror? The rest of the state has seen it, they know, apparently the truth is blind to you, and you can't see past your orange colored glasses.

Head Coach Billy Dawson should do the right thing and give the trophy back to the AAA, how someone can even accept a tainted title is beyond me. For those that have Nashville Back 2 Back Champs in your signature, you should be ashamed, you're not the champions, you know it deep, deep, deep down in your heart.

To those Referees, turn your stripes in, and your whistles, you suck at life. Get another spare time job flipping burgers at McDonalds and asking "would you like more fries with that?". Because that is all you're qualified to do.


1) its a high school football game

2) its a lot easier to make calls from the stands. Why don't you join the officating crew?

With an avatar like that don't you think you should put more effort in to using correct spelling and grammar?


What? You act like hypocrites have to do as they say and not as they do.

If you say so
Title: Re: I am calling out Scrapper Fans/Players/Coaches/Admin and those Blind Refs
Post by: stina_ar on December 12, 2006, 02:25:40 pm
Okay. I am sorry. I'll make a conscious effort to spell everything correctly from now on, since I'm always on everyone else's butts about it.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: sam on December 12, 2006, 02:27:09 pm
You're missing the point, but nice try though.

Do you think it's ridiculous for me to claim the 01 title for Booneville?
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: phdefense on December 12, 2006, 02:30:27 pm
Quote from: sam on December 12, 2006, 02:27:09 pm
You're missing the point, but nice try though.

Do you think it's ridiculous for me to claim the 01 title for Booneville?

Do you think it wrong to argue what actually happened?
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: sam on December 12, 2006, 02:32:29 pm
We're arguing on 2 threads about a Warren vs. Nashville game and you're from Stuttgart and I'm from Booneville.

Let's go hang ourselves. 
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: athletic supporter on December 12, 2006, 02:39:27 pm
Quote from: Moron Detector on December 12, 2006, 11:59:53 am
Quote from: The_Preacher on December 12, 2006, 11:58:54 am
well it would make  more sense than some of the comment being make and  even some of your if I recall. and why not PA moved up two and was in the championship and the main deal is not to allow  one team to get all the glory  if I understand it all right.

PA moved up one.  Baptist moved up two and got killed.


Actually, PA moved up two also. They were in the 6AAA last year and in the 5A this year.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: The_Preacher on December 12, 2006, 02:42:28 pm
thank u sir
Title: Re: All I want for christmas this year is...
Post by: Sweet on December 12, 2006, 02:48:30 pm
Quote from: sam on December 12, 2006, 01:35:21 pm
Instant replay in the championship game?

That was a joke wasn't it?



Why not?
Title: Re: All I want for christmas this year is...
Post by: sam on December 12, 2006, 02:50:13 pm
Well, mainly because it's not gonna happen.

We've never needed it before until Warren felt like they were more special than anyone else who this has happened to.   
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Sensitive on December 12, 2006, 02:52:06 pm


OldScrap apparently does not know how to use the quote function.  Therefore for the benefit of anyone who actually reads this, the words inside his little  <<marks>> are from my original post.
Quote from: OldScrap on December 12, 2006, 01:12:25 pm
<<I am a 7-4A supporter and I am proud that one of our teams has won the State Championship for the third consecutive year.  It was obvious that Nashville won every statistical category and should have scored several times when they didn't.  Overtime should never have been involved. >>


Are you saying the game should not have gone in over time as the rules require? That at the end of the 4th quarter the game should have been declared a tie and all rules thrown out? Or Warren should have been declared the winner at the end of the 4th quarter when it was only a tied game?


No.  I am saying that if Nashville had not repeatedly shot themselves in the foot there would never have been an overtime.  I think everyone who read this post other than you understood that.
Quote from: OldScrap on December 12, 2006, 01:12:25 pm


<<That being said, the officials were wrong and Warren should should have been declared the champion.>> 

Do you think in every game when the official makes a call and some object, it should not stand but be changed? Where would it end?


I didn't say that the erroneous call should be reversed after the fact.  I am saying that the officials should have made the right call in the first place and we would not be having this argument.  Errors happen.  That doesn't make them right.

Quote from: OldScrap on December 12, 2006, 01:12:25 pm
<<When private school supporters complained, they were told to stop whining.  "The vote was overwhelming!  It must be the right thing to do."  Would the Scrapper fans agree to award the championship trophy this year on the basis of a vote by all of the people who see the video?  No, because they would say that all of those people are just "haters."  Now you see how the private schools felt when we received the results of the AAA vote. >>

Has it not always been the majority rule? Why all of a sudden should that change? Every school in the AAA agrees to go by its rules that have made, if they don't like them they can try to change them or they can get out, their choice.

Do I understand that you would be willing for the AAA reps to look at the game film and vote to see if you keep your championship trophy?  Why not?  Shouldn't the majority rule?  Apparently in this instance you think the majority is wrong.  Private school supporters felt the same way when their enrollments were "Grahamatically corrected" (I stole that phrase, but I really like it!)

Quote from: OldScrap on December 12, 2006, 01:12:25 pm

<<Maybe both sides can have a little better understanding of how we felt last year.>>

I have a great understanding, at the end of a game the one who loses many times will come up with some excuse. And I understand the one who loses is not happy, in fact some get down right bitter. But again, going into the game both teams agreed to abide by the calls the refer made, even if they disagree with them.


My post had nothing to do with the game.  It was to demonstrate that you wouldn't like for someone else to control your destiny just because they were in the majority, and when you are wronged it is not a crime to say so.
Title: Re: All I want for christmas this year is...
Post by: stina_ar on December 12, 2006, 02:52:14 pm
All I want for Christmas is Channing Tatum, so if anyone can swing that, please let me know.
Title: Re: All I want for christmas this year is...
Post by: sam on December 12, 2006, 02:54:23 pm
He's not a woman!
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Scrapper Slapper on December 12, 2006, 02:54:31 pm
Quote from: youthguy on December 12, 2006, 02:39:27 pm
Quote from: Moron Detector on December 12, 2006, 11:59:53 am
Quote from: The_Preacher on December 12, 2006, 11:58:54 am
well it would make  more sense than some of the comment being make and  even some of your if I recall. and why not PA moved up two and was in the championship and the main deal is not to allow  one team to get all the glory  if I understand it all right.

PA moved up one.  Baptist moved up two and got killed.


Actually, PA moved up two also. They were in the 6AAA last year and in the 5A this year.
Yes, but without a change in the multiplier PA would have been in 4A because of the change in the number of classes.  Baptist would have been in 2A even with the change in classes.  They were moved up two because of the multiplier.
Title: Re: All I want for christmas this year is...
Post by: Scrapper Slapper on December 12, 2006, 02:56:11 pm
Quote from: fobcat_ban on December 12, 2006, 11:04:57 am
Quote from: Moron Detector on December 11, 2006, 11:02:53 pm
So where do you think you can find the PS3?

I have one.
I'm not willing to barter, unless you have something worthy of trade.

I will PM you my trade offer.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: ScrapWolf08 on December 12, 2006, 02:57:09 pm
Sounds like a plan. Archaic, question for you. And I'm being serious. How long are you planning on keeping this up? Just askin
Title: Re: All I want for christmas this year is...
Post by: ScrapWolf08 on December 12, 2006, 02:58:13 pm
Oh, yeah, you know we're good when we can go from yellin at each other bout the game to makin offers for PS3 over the Internet in about 2.5 sec. Maybe shorter. We are awesome!
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: sam on December 12, 2006, 02:58:30 pm
Basketball will start soon and there will be a big game or a bad call and this, like old trophies, will slide back on the shelf. 
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: ScrapWolf08 on December 12, 2006, 02:59:18 pm
Maybe, maybe not. We'll just have to see I guess.
Title: Re: All I want for christmas this year is...
Post by: stina_ar on December 12, 2006, 03:02:19 pm
Most of us just have very very short attention spa.....
HEY! LOOK! A PUPPY!!!
Title: Re: All I want for christmas this year is...
Post by: ScrapWolf08 on December 12, 2006, 03:03:41 pm
Wow, you remind me of a friend of mine. Not sure if that's a good thing, tho.
Title: Re: All I want for christmas this year is...
Post by: sam on December 12, 2006, 03:04:11 pm
I wonder what's for dinner?
Title: Re: All I want for christmas this year is...
Post by: ScrapWolf08 on December 12, 2006, 03:06:09 pm
Not sure. I'm kindsa wondering that same thing right now....Maybe squid...
Title: Re: All I want for christmas this year is...
Post by: stina_ar on December 12, 2006, 03:06:43 pm
I'm having....

.......heh. heh. heh. heh.
Title: Re: All I want for christmas this year is...
Post by: sam on December 12, 2006, 03:07:31 pm
Hay?
Title: Re: I am calling out Scrapper Fans/Players/Coaches/Admin and those Blind Refs
Post by: arreferee on December 12, 2006, 03:07:41 pm
Quote from: fobcat_ban on December 12, 2006, 02:12:18 pm
Why don't you join the officating crew?


We've been trying to get people to do this for years.  I don't know if they are too scared to try it, can't take people yelling at them, would rather sit in the stands and gripe, or really don't care enough to make a difference.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: paraloma on December 12, 2006, 03:09:53 pm
No score.

(http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/4353/noscorecg3.jpg)
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: athletic supporter on December 12, 2006, 03:13:30 pm
Quote from: Moron Detector on December 12, 2006, 02:54:31 pm
Quote from: youthguy on December 12, 2006, 02:39:27 pm
Quote from: Moron Detector on December 12, 2006, 11:59:53 am
Quote from: The_Preacher on December 12, 2006, 11:58:54 am
well it would make  more sense than some of the comment being make and  even some of your if I recall. and why not PA moved up two and was in the championship and the main deal is not to allow  one team to get all the glory  if I understand it all right.

PA moved up one.  Baptist moved up two and got killed.


Actually, PA moved up two also. They were in the 6AAA last year and in the 5A this year.
Yes, but without a change in the multiplier PA would have been in 4A because of the change in the number of classes.  Baptist would have been in 2A even with the change in classes.  They were moved up two because of the multiplier.


Did you post what I put in bold print, MD?
Title: EVERYONE SEEMS TO HAVE FORGOT
Post by: JACK D BACK 27 on December 12, 2006, 03:14:03 pm
THAT WARREN GOT A TOUCHDOWN CALLED BACK ON A INELGIBLE MAN DOWN FIELD IF THEY DO NOT MAKE THAT MISTAKE THEY AREUP 21-7 SO ALL THE PEOPLE WHO ARE SAYING NASHVILLE DOMINATED THE GAME THEY COULD HAVE EASILY BEEN DOWN 2 TOUCHDOWNS IN THE THIRD QUARTER GREAT GAME BY TWO GREAT PROGRAMS
Title: Re: EVERYONE SEEMS TO HAVE FORGOT
Post by: paraloma on December 12, 2006, 03:16:56 pm
Quote from: JACK D BACK 27 on December 12, 2006, 03:14:03 pm
THAT WARREN GOT A TOUCHDOWN CALLED BACK ON A INELGIBLE MAN DOWN FIELD IF THEY DO NOT MAKE THAT MISTAKE THEY AREUP 21-7 SO ALL THE PEOPLE WHO ARE SAYING NASHVILLE DOMINATED THE GAME THEY COULD HAVE EASILY BEEN DOWN 2 TOUCHDOWNS IN THE THIRD QUARTER GREAT GAME BY TWO GREAT PROGRAMS

Or,....Nashville makes a field goal in regulation or the first overtime and there is no debate.
Title: Re: EVERYONE SEEMS TO HAVE FORGOT
Post by: Jack1990 on December 12, 2006, 03:20:17 pm
Both points are very valid...but both of those are errors by players that affected the outcome of the game...not an error or lack of judgment of someone other than the 22 players on the field.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: archaic on December 12, 2006, 03:27:42 pm
How on earth can you say that..........Are you blind? I'm not even going to say anything else. To say he didn't score is like saying the sky isn't blue.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: BringbckSingletary on December 12, 2006, 03:30:24 pm
Quote from: SingleWingGuru on December 12, 2006, 12:31:49 am
Quote from: President Ivan on December 11, 2006, 11:40:59 pm
Are we positive that's a shadow?  It strikes me as iffy.

In the first picture at least it is not a shadow.  IT is a tooling.  (don't know about the second picture)


Look at a negative of the picture in photoshop.  It is pretty obvious it is filled in.


You are a joke
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Romeo on December 12, 2006, 03:32:11 pm
I sent the video and both pictures including the ktbs photo to every military buddy I know. Its  unaminous they all agree that the call was blown and the ktbs photo shot was taken after the score and when the ball initially popped out. You can't get anymore credibility than that. So my next question is ?  WHERES A COURT MARTIAL WHEN YOU NEED ONE.
Title: Re: EVERYONE SEEMS TO HAVE FORGOT
Post by: BringbckSingletary on December 12, 2006, 03:33:10 pm
I agree, just another case in the game where Warren was screwed.  I'm sick of hearing that Warren was dominated.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: arreferee on December 12, 2006, 03:34:06 pm
Quote from: DQ's Comin'. on December 12, 2006, 09:15:58 am
Thats a better shot of his elbow being down, but his knees not, because he was rapped up at the ankles. I'm assuming an elbow down means that the player is down in Arkansas football, but I'm not sure. We need a referee to see if thats true or not.

A player is down when any part of him, other than his hands or feet, touch the ground.  So, an elbow being down means the player was down.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: Scrapper Slapper on December 12, 2006, 03:34:38 pm
Quote from: paraloma on December 12, 2006, 03:09:53 pm
No score.

(http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/4353/noscorecg3.jpg)

Now THAT is funny!
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Scrapper Slapper on December 12, 2006, 03:38:25 pm
Yes.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Bleachermom on December 12, 2006, 03:50:09 pm
Quote from: OldScrap on December 12, 2006, 01:12:25 pm
One with good sportsmanship goes by the rules that are in place that they have already agreed to abide by.

And some people anticipate that the rules may cause their school to have to move up a classification fair and square because their enrolment is increasing. Their response is to use their position sas a AAA Board member to change the rules by yelling "The private schools win too any championships, the private schools win too many championships!" Voila! Their school is assured of being one of the largest in the 4A for some time to come...and repeats as 4A State Champion...ignoring the plight of Arkansas Baptist, Lutheran, and Union Christian. Now, if Warren was as sly as that school, they would have anticipated an overtime game with a controversial last call and used their AAA Board member to propose a new rule allowing the ref to look at the Jumbotron before making his call.  ;)
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: athletic supporter on December 12, 2006, 03:52:04 pm
Quote from: Moron Detector on December 12, 2006, 03:38:25 pm
Yes.


Then I assume we can drop the word "detector" from your name.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: The_Preacher on December 12, 2006, 04:04:44 pm
 so does slammmm mean anything here.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Scrapper Slapper on December 12, 2006, 04:06:13 pm
Quote from: youthguy on December 12, 2006, 03:52:04 pm
Quote from: Moron Detector on December 12, 2006, 03:38:25 pm
Yes.



Then I assume we can drop the word "detector" from your name.
Okay, I will type slowly this time because apparently you don't read very fast.  PA had two extra "A's" added to their classification this year, but they were actually only one class up from where they were last year (The same classification as Nashville, CAC, Warren, etc.).  Baptist was up two classes from where they were last year.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Scrapper Slapper on December 12, 2006, 04:07:10 pm
Quote from: The_Preacher on December 12, 2006, 04:04:44 pm
so does slammmm mean anything here.

No, but don't worry.  Many of your words don't mean anything.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: athletic supporter on December 12, 2006, 04:10:32 pm
Quote from: Moron Detector on December 12, 2006, 04:06:13 pm
Quote from: youthguy on December 12, 2006, 03:52:04 pm
Quote from: Moron Detector on December 12, 2006, 03:38:25 pm
Yes.



Then I assume we can drop the word "detector" from your name.
Okay, I will type slowly this time because apparently you don't read very fast.  PA had two extra "A's" added to their classification this year, but they were actually only one class up from where they were last year (The same classification as Nashville, CAC, Warren, etc.).  Baptist was up two classes from where they were last year.



Remind me again what classification Arkansas Baptist was in last year. Were they in the same classification as Barton, Harding Academy, Charleston, Rison, Lavaca? If so, then by your logic they only moved up one classification.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: Wahls on December 12, 2006, 04:12:06 pm
I thought about doing that on GIMPShop. The fact is, his elbow is down. If you are permitted to have your elbow hit the ground, then its game, set, match to Warren. If its not, Winner is Nashville.


EDIT: Mr. Referee says in a prior post that I didn't see, that if his elbow was down, then he's down.


Sorry Warren fans.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Scrapper Slapper on December 12, 2006, 04:17:05 pm
Yes, but without the increased multiplier, they would have stayed in the same class as Junction City, Jessieville, etc., even with the new classification.  PA would have still faced the same opponents as they did the previous year.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: O.T.C on December 12, 2006, 04:22:07 pm
Are you blind man?? The ball is across the goaline and you can see a shadow or something under his knee. He obviously isn't down and the ball is in....Great call by the ref that was standing right there...lol
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: [el_CaC] on December 12, 2006, 04:30:49 pm
GET OVER IT.

Nashville won. Bad calls happen. This isn't the first time that a state championship game has had a controversial call, so why would it shake the foundation of high school football? There was some controversy a few years about the state title game between Greenwood and Wynne. Does anyone remember what all the fuss and talks of a "Tainted Title" were about? No. That matter passed. This matter will pass. So, please, however hard it is... get over it.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Implant Guy on December 12, 2006, 04:43:31 pm
OTC, if the picture is so clear and leaves no doubt, why do you say "a shadow or something" is under his knee?  If it is so clear, why can't you tell what that is?
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: LionFan22 on December 12, 2006, 04:47:25 pm
HIs Elbow went down if you watch the video after the ball is accross....... if you look closely the ball is accross even before he starts comin down and the shots that show the ball not accross is when he pulled tha ball back after he hit the ground so he could look at the ref look its in the video u can't edit vids like that
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: urban legend on December 12, 2006, 05:15:53 pm
Quote from: Moron Detector on December 12, 2006, 03:34:38 pm
Quote from: paraloma on December 12, 2006, 03:09:53 pm
No score.

(http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/4353/noscorecg3.jpg)

Now THAT is funny!

That is funny!
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Villa07 on December 12, 2006, 05:19:32 pm
Quote from: sam on December 12, 2006, 11:59:15 am
Quote from: The critic on December 12, 2006, 11:46:17 am
Nashville should give up the trophy.  They know the guy got in.

I agree with this moron.  They should give the trophy to Warren.  They should also give them last year's trophy as interest on the 3 days they've had it. 

this might be the stupidest thing i've read yet..... and thats saying something with all the BS on these boards.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: [el_CaC] on December 12, 2006, 05:21:29 pm
Quote from: Villa07 on December 12, 2006, 05:19:32 pm
Quote from: sam on December 12, 2006, 11:59:15 am
Quote from: The critic on December 12, 2006, 11:46:17 am
Nashville should give up the trophy.  They know the guy got in.

I agree with this moron.  They should give the trophy to Warren.  They should also give them last year's trophy as interest on the 3 days they've had it. 

this might be the stupidest thing i've read yet..... and thats saying something with all the BS on these boards.

Sam's post was full of sarcasm. The critic... not so much.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: Pirate#4 on December 12, 2006, 05:56:26 pm
As much as I wanted Nashville to win this game from these pictures it does conclude that the ball was across the goal line and the knees were not on the ground thr=erefore Warren got Cheeted out of this one. State Champs Warren Lumberjacks but it isnt how it fell. Congratulations Nashville good season.
Title: Replay will be shown on Channel 7 at 6:00
Post by: The critic on December 12, 2006, 06:11:58 pm
Everyone be sure to watch.
Title: Re: EVERYONE SEEMS TO HAVE FORGOT
Post by: OUTLAWnuttmustgo on December 12, 2006, 06:20:24 pm
Geez how many times must you be asked to  knock off the caps??!!
also  since we're what iffing  if Nashville doesn't drop   all those passes they win big
Title: Re: Replay will be shown on Channel 7 at 6:00
Post by: bradyfan on December 12, 2006, 06:25:01 pm
the gremlins got it....or was it mr. grinch?
Title: Re: Replay will be shown on Channel 7 at 6:00
Post by: softyball on December 12, 2006, 06:25:12 pm
Now we know what Bo thinks, not much more.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: scrapper_mlm on December 12, 2006, 06:25:30 pm
u can clearly c on the pic that the 2 point conversion is NOT GOOD!!sorry but that is a repeat 4 the scrappers!! :'(
Title: Re: Replay will be shown on Channel 7 at 6:00
Post by: JackStar on December 12, 2006, 06:25:54 pm
oh my goodness...they showed a preview of it earlier...apparently someone more important than steve sullivan didnt want that video shown.  wonder why?
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: seark66 on December 12, 2006, 06:26:31 pm
Quote from: scrapper_mlm on December 12, 2006, 06:25:30 pm
u can clearly c on the pic that the 2 point conversion is NOT GOOD!!sorry but that is a repeat 4 the scrappers!! :'(

Wrong. Enjoy your Howard County Championship.
Title: Channel 7 Replay
Post by: Pay2Play on December 12, 2006, 06:26:55 pm
OK, I watched the 6 o'clock news because they were going to show the re-play and for some reason they couldn't get the film to work.  The Football Gods even want the controversy to end! 
Title: Re: Replay will be shown on Channel 7 at 6:00
Post by: LJ06 on December 12, 2006, 06:27:45 pm
Exactly
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: scrapper_mlm on December 12, 2006, 06:28:26 pm

THE BALL CLEARLY FELL BE4 THE LINE AND BESIDES HIS KNEE WAS TOUCHING THE TURF!!
Title: Re: Channel 7 Replay
Post by: JackStar on December 12, 2006, 06:29:20 pm
Quote from: Pay2Play on December 12, 2006, 06:26:55 pm
OK, I watched the 6 o'clock news because they were going to show the re-play and for some reason they couldn't get the film to work.  The Football Gods even want the controversy to end! 
or maybe the big bosses of high school football dont want to have a riot in front of their offices.
Title: Re: Replay will be shown on Channel 7 at 6:00
Post by: softyball on December 12, 2006, 06:31:19 pm
SSSC strikes again!
Title: Re: Channel 7 Replay
Post by: luvdemjacks on December 12, 2006, 06:33:30 pm
Dang , did it not work or did it mysteriously disappear.  for some reason SOMEBODY don't want it AIRED...hmmmmmm
Title: Re: Replay will be shown on Channel 7 at 6:00
Post by: luvdemjacks on December 12, 2006, 06:34:23 pm
Now we have conspiracy brewing.....hmmmm
Title: Re: EVERYONE SEEMS TO HAVE FORGOT
Post by: panther_pride on December 12, 2006, 06:37:36 pm
What about the refs not giving Nashville their timeout right before halftime?
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: scrapper_mlm on December 12, 2006, 06:38:53 pm
Quote from: Romeo on December 12, 2006, 03:32:11 pm
I sent the video and both pictures including the ktbs photo to every military buddy I know. Its  unaminous they all agree that the call was blown and the ktbs photo shot was taken after the score and when the ball initially popped out. You can't get anymore credibility than that. So my next question is ?  WHERES A COURT MARTIAL WHEN YOU NEED ONE.




& the president agrees with the scrappers!
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: tainted gold on December 12, 2006, 06:40:48 pm
Quote from: scrapper_mlm on December 12, 2006, 06:38:53 pm
Quote from: Romeo on December 12, 2006, 03:32:11 pm
I sent the video and both pictures including the ktbs photo to every military buddy I know. Its  unaminous they all agree that the call was blown and the ktbs photo shot was taken after the score and when the ball initially popped out. You can't get anymore credibility than that. So my next question is ?  WHERES A COURT MARTIAL WHEN YOU NEED ONE.




& the president agrees with the scrappers!

He from Texas and his say doesnt count.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: softyball on December 12, 2006, 06:41:21 pm
Quote from: Romeo on December 12, 2006, 03:32:11 pm
I sent the video and both pictures including the ktbs photo to every military buddy I know. Its  unaminous they all agree that the call was blown and the ktbs photo shot was taken after the score and when the ball initially popped out. You can't get anymore credibility than that. So my next question is ?  WHERES A COURT MARTIAL WHEN YOU NEED ONE.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: softyball on December 12, 2006, 06:43:31 pm
I was in the Navy by the way,  want to know what I think about all this?
Title: Re: EVERYONE SEEMS TO HAVE FORGOT
Post by: JackYodler on December 12, 2006, 06:46:51 pm
Quote from: FF secretary of sarcasmMEATHEAD on December 12, 2006, 06:20:24 pm
Geez how many times must you be asked to  knock off the caps??!!
also  since we're what iffing  if Nashville doesn't drop   all those passes they win big

The thing is, noone was downfield
Title: Re: All I want for christmas this year is...
Post by: scrapper_mlm on December 12, 2006, 06:46:52 pm
Quote from: SCRAPPER MOM#1 on December 11, 2006, 11:19:52 pm
Quote from: Romeo on December 11, 2006, 11:00:03 pm
(1). For the AAA to add instant replay to the state championship next year.
(2). For the referees who blew that call to be permanently banned from officiating games.
(3). For the AAA to add an *
(4). To find a PS3 thats under $1000
(5). For Nashville and Warren fans to quit acting like North and South Korea

(6). and finally to at least have ONE nashville fan admit that it was a blown call


I'd say I probably get one out of six



Okay, okay, okay blown call...

Now Merry Christmas.
Way to go Scrappers.


go SCRAPPERS! and now u got 1 of ur christmas presents even thought they prob did not mean it

Title: Re: EVERYONE SEEMS TO HAVE FORGOT
Post by: The Grudge on December 12, 2006, 06:51:11 pm
there shouldnt have been any debating,Nashville messed up ALOT , dropped passes,missed field goals, the score should have been alot worse than it was, like i said the better team won,and if Nashville would have lost, they would have still been the better team
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: JackYodler on December 12, 2006, 06:53:29 pm
Noone cares what you think, Everyone in Arkansas except Nashville (a few actually do believe) believes that we won.  I hope that gold on your trophy turns green
Title: Re: Channel 7 Replay
Post by: JackYodler on December 12, 2006, 06:54:25 pm
Something fishy about all this
Title: Re: Channel 7 Replay
Post by: softyball on December 12, 2006, 06:57:08 pm
Would the AAA need to give permission for footage to be aired possibly?  I know they made sure I couldn't film the game.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: panther_pride on December 12, 2006, 06:59:30 pm
Quote from: tainted gold on December 12, 2006, 06:40:48 pm
Quote from: scrapper_mlm on December 12, 2006, 06:38:53 pm
Quote from: Romeo on December 12, 2006, 03:32:11 pm
I sent the video and both pictures including the ktbs photo to every military buddy I know. Its  unaminous they all agree that the call was blown and the ktbs photo shot was taken after the score and when the ball initially popped out. You can't get anymore credibility than that. So my next question is ?  WHERES A COURT MARTIAL WHEN YOU NEED ONE.




& the president agrees with the scrappers!

He from Texas and his say doesnt count.
I'd trust a Texan with highschool football more than anybody in Arkansas.
Title: Re: Replay will be shown on Channel 7 at 6:00
Post by: Big Time on December 12, 2006, 07:01:26 pm
i guess that everyone has not figured out yet that nashville has connections all around this state, no matter what happends or how fast something happens nashville is always prepared and never surprized, with one phone call nashville gets what it wants.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: softyball on December 12, 2006, 07:01:49 pm
Quote from: JackYodler on December 12, 2006, 06:53:29 pm
Noone cares what you think, Everyone in Arkansas except Nashville (a few actually do believe) believes that we won.  I hope that gold on your trophy turns green

Most don't care.
Title: Re: Replay will be shown on Channel 7 at 6:00
Post by: JackStar on December 12, 2006, 07:02:27 pm
Quote from: Big Time on December 12, 2006, 07:01:26 pm
i guess that everyone has not figured out yet that nashville has connections all around this state, no matter what happends or how fast something happens nashville is always prepared and never surprized, with one phone call nashville gets what it wants.
you're admitting the video is vital proof then???
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: panther_pride on December 12, 2006, 07:03:58 pm
Quote from: Fred Garvin M.P. on December 12, 2006, 07:01:49 pm
Quote from: JackYodler on December 12, 2006, 06:53:29 pm
Noone cares what you think, Everyone in Arkansas except Nashville (a few actually do believe) believes that we won.  I hope that gold on your trophy turns green

Most don't care.
I would imagine the majority of the state doesn't care what happened either way...
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: [el_CaC] on December 12, 2006, 07:05:20 pm
Quote from: JackYodler on December 12, 2006, 06:53:29 pm
Noone cares what you think, Everyone in Arkansas except Nashville (a few actually do believe) believes that we won.  I hope that gold on your trophy turns green

Don't lump the rest of the state in with you... might ruin our reputation.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: JACK D BACK 27 on December 12, 2006, 07:14:13 pm
THIS JUST IN...I JUST GOT A PHONE CALL FROM THE ROCK AND THE 2 POINT PLAY WILL BE PLAYED ON THE 10 OCLOCK NEWS ON CHANNEL 7.THIS IS NOT A JOKE JUST WATCH IT
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: gunman on December 12, 2006, 07:20:29 pm
do you think they will change the call because it is on channel 7?
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: JackStar on December 12, 2006, 07:21:17 pm
Quote from: gunman on December 12, 2006, 07:20:29 pm
do you think they will change the call because it is on channel 7?
no... but the whole state will know the truth...thats all warren is asking
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: RD™ on December 12, 2006, 07:21:57 pm
The State knows...

Any true fan of the game knows.

It's a tainted title.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: gunman on December 12, 2006, 07:22:18 pm
wait, i just got a final...21-20
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: CAT D BACK1 on December 12, 2006, 07:23:53 pm
The same can be said of Warren's 2001 title, TAINTED!!!

Title: Re: Channel 7 Replay
Post by: gunman on December 12, 2006, 07:25:17 pm
when you guys finish talking about the replay and the bosses of high school football, try to figure out where Jimmy Hoffa is or who really shot Kennedy.
Title: Re: Channel 7 Replay
Post by: OUTLAWnuttmustgo on December 12, 2006, 07:26:33 pm
Hoffa is  under the White House and I killed JFK*

*I'm only 30 so obviously that's a joke
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: The_Preacher on December 12, 2006, 07:26:44 pm
 RD I HAVE ALWAYS THOUGHT YOU TO BE SOMEWHAT NUTS BUT I AM NOW SEEING A REAL TRUE MAN OF MUCH KNOWLEDGE AND TRUTH. MY HAT GOES OFF TO YOU. AND YES IT SHOULD TURN GREEN BEFORE SPRING. YOU KNOW THE SHINE  HAS BEEN DAMPENED IN THE EYES OF THE VIEWERS
Title: Re: Channel 7 Replay
Post by: gunman on December 12, 2006, 07:32:10 pm
FF, that is more beleivable than warren scoring on the 2 point conversion.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: #1 STUNNA on December 12, 2006, 07:41:30 pm
Quote from: CAT D BACK1 on December 12, 2006, 07:23:53 pm
The same can be said of Warren's 2001 title, TAINTED!!!



your not one of the d-backs that bret smith embarrased are you
Title: Re: EVERYONE SEEMS TO HAVE FORGOT
Post by: #1 STUNNA on December 12, 2006, 07:44:49 pm
we cant help it nashville cant kick or catch
Title: Re: EVERYONE SEEMS TO HAVE FORGOT
Post by: JackYodler on December 12, 2006, 07:45:08 pm
Man you couldn't be more wrong, and by the way WArren won
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: #1 STUNNA on December 12, 2006, 07:45:55 pm
wait you only have 10 posts shut up
Title: Re: EVERYONE SEEMS TO HAVE FORGOT
Post by: The Grudge on December 12, 2006, 07:46:09 pm
and we cant help it we got the trophy sittin nice and pretty in Nashville i bet the rings are gonna be nice!!!
Title: Re: EVERYONE SEEMS TO HAVE FORGOT
Post by: #1 STUNNA on December 12, 2006, 07:47:28 pm
probably turn your fingers green, if thats nice then i guess so
Title: Re: EVERYONE SEEMS TO HAVE FORGOT
Post by: The Grudge on December 12, 2006, 07:51:06 pm
ha thats yalls little runner up rings your talking about,we also cant help we had double the amount of total yards of offense yall had ;D
Title: Re: EVERYONE SEEMS TO HAVE FORGOT
Post by: #1 STUNNA on December 12, 2006, 07:53:21 pm
and with all those double yards you got a cheatin win by one point, pretty dominating
Title: Re: EVERYONE SEEMS TO HAVE FORGOT
Post by: The Grudge on December 12, 2006, 07:55:12 pm
Quote from: The Grudge on December 12, 2006, 06:51:11 pm
there shouldnt have been any debating,Nashville messed up ALOT , dropped passes,missed field goals, the score should have been alot worse than it was, like i said the better team won,and if Nashville would have lost, they would have still been the better team

;D ;D ;D  it wasnt a cheat i know a website were a pic of him were he is clearly down is if you want to go to it
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: ljmom on December 12, 2006, 08:10:59 pm
Everyone keeps telling Warren to get over it.

He's still talking about the fumble that the Bearcats say wasn't a fumble, in 2001!!!  Well, they've certainly gotten over it.  Haven't they? 

I don't see some Warren fans "getting over it" anytime soon.  No more than some Bearcat fans getting over the fumble call... 
Title: Re: Channel 7 Replay
Post by: The critic on December 12, 2006, 08:14:29 pm
I called channel 7 and asked why they didn't and show and they said they had computer difficulties and it will be aired at 10
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Garo on December 12, 2006, 08:15:18 pm
Quote from: ljmom on December 12, 2006, 08:10:59 pm
Everyone keeps telling Warren to get over it.

He's still talking about the fumble that the Bearcats say wasn't a fumble, in 2001!!!  Well, they've certainly gotten over it.  Haven't they? 

I don't see some Warren fans "getting over it" anytime soon.  No more than some Bearcat fans getting over the fumble call... 
And I won't be getting over your fans booing our kids during the awards regardless of the call.
Title: I called channel 7 news room....It will be aired at 10:00
Post by: The critic on December 12, 2006, 08:18:20 pm
Said they had computer difficulties at 6 and they promised it would be aired at 10.  I even asked what they thought and they said they have to be neutral to both sides but it is obvious.  The person I talked to didn't say he was obviously down or he obviously scored.  I can't wait until 10:00.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Implant Guy on December 12, 2006, 08:20:00 pm
I heard that several members of "The Warren Commission" have been contacted to view the re-play.  Come on, this is a conspiracy.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: #1 STUNNA on December 12, 2006, 08:20:02 pm
boo
Title: Re: EVERYONE SEEMS TO HAVE FORGOT
Post by: xcheer on December 12, 2006, 08:20:53 pm
If a pass was called back for illegal man down field, the umpire makes that call. Did'nt the umpire make the failed conversion call also?
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: panther_pride on December 12, 2006, 08:21:00 pm
Quote from: #1 STUNNA on December 12, 2006, 07:45:55 pm
wait you only have 10 posts shut up
WAIT! BREAKING NEWS! You don't even have 10 meaningful posts. SHUT UP!
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: The critic on December 12, 2006, 08:29:38 pm
Quote from: Garo on December 12, 2006, 08:15:18 pm
Quote from: ljmom on December 12, 2006, 08:10:59 pm
Everyone keeps telling Warren to get over it.

He's still talking about the fumble that the Bearcats say wasn't a fumble, in 2001!!!  Well, they've certainly gotten over it.  Haven't they? 

I don't see some Warren fans "getting over it" anytime soon.  No more than some Bearcat fans getting over the fumble call... 
And I won't be getting over your fans booing our kids during the awards regardless of the call.

I will never get over Nashville fans for cheering about a championship they obviously don't deserve
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: ljmom on December 12, 2006, 08:30:43 pm

I can agree that is was classless for the Warren fans to boo while the trophy was being presented.  I've saw some defending it, by saying they were booing the call.  Well, they probably felt like they were justified, but sometimes we don't think, in the heat of the moment, about appearances.  I can show plenty of classless Nashville and Warren posts that prove that some folks don't care how they look.  Thing is, on here, they can go back and edit their posts, when they see how classless they look, and it doesn't happen, now does it?

I wasn't there and there is not a thing I can do about it.  My husband was so sick, over the bad call, that he was already on the parking lot, before the trophy was given to anyone.  He just wanted to get out of there because he was pretty angry himself and he couldn't stand to watch anymore. 

I'm not taking anything away from Nashville.  The refs made the call.  They deserve everything they have coming to them and so does the AAA.  The Scrappers do not deserve to be stripped of a trophy, or a title, but they should be sharing it.  Warren deserves the title, just as much as the Scrappers.  I believe that.

Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Garo on December 12, 2006, 08:36:47 pm
It wasn't just THE trophy...it was the individual awards presented to each player on our side.  After that performance by the Warren fans, we had every right to boo the presentations of your players but you didn't hear a peep from us.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: softyball on December 12, 2006, 08:38:25 pm
Quote from: ljmom on December 12, 2006, 08:30:43 pm

I can agree that is was classless for the Warren fans to boo while the trophy was being presented.  I've saw some defending it, by saying they were booing the call.  Well, they probably felt like they were justified, but sometimes we don't think, in the heat of the moment, about appearances.  I can show plenty of classless Nashville and Warren posts that prove that some folks don't care how they look.  Thing is, on here, they can go back and edit their posts, when they see how classless they look, and it doesn't happen, now does it?

I wasn't there and there is not a thing I can do about it.  My husband was so sick, over the bad call, that he was already on the parking lot, before the trophy was given to anyone.  He just wanted to get out of there because he was pretty angry himself and he couldn't stand to watch anymore. 

I'm not taking anything away from Nashville.  The refs made the call.  They deserve everything they have coming to them and so does the AAA.  The Scrappers do not deserve to be stripped of a trophy, or a title, but they should be sharing it.  Warren deserves the title, just as much as the Scrappers.  I believe that.




I haven't heard anyone from Warren wanting to share the 2001 title with Booneville.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: ljmom on December 12, 2006, 08:40:44 pm
Plenty of Nashville folks have said.... "Get over it."  So.....  If Warren is supposed to get over a bad call that cost the game, why can't Nashville get over some "boos."
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Implant Guy on December 12, 2006, 08:41:30 pm
He is right ljmom.  I was there too.  They were booing while the Scrapper player was accepting his award, not just when they announced Nashville as the 2006 AAAA State Champions.  The game had been over for several minutes and the booing had stopped.  Suddenly, when they announced the player's name, the Warren side started booing again.  However, it was not nearly as loud as when the announcer stated that Nashville had won the 2006 AAAA State Championship.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: ljmom on December 12, 2006, 08:41:48 pm
I never saw Booneville produce any proof that a bad call was made. 
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: softyball on December 12, 2006, 08:41:57 pm
Quote from: ljmom on December 12, 2006, 08:40:44 pm
Plenty of Nashville folks have said.... "Get over it."  So.....  If Warren is supposed to get over a bad call that cost the game, why can't Nashville get over some "boos."

We will
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: ljmom on December 12, 2006, 08:42:41 pm
Quote from: Implant Guy on December 12, 2006, 08:41:30 pm
He is right ljmom.  I was there too.  They were booing while the Scrapper player was accepting his award, not just when they announced Nashville as the 2006 AAAA State Champions.  The game had been over for several minutes and the booing had stopped.  Suddenly, when they announced the player's name, the Warren side started booing again.  However, it was not nearly as loud as when the announcer stated that Nashville had won the 2006 AAAA State Championship.

Some folks can't help but be classless.  There's plenty of them in Nashville too... 
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: OldScrap on December 12, 2006, 08:43:47 pm
Quote from: #1 STUNNA on December 12, 2006, 07:45:55 pm
wait you only have 10 posts shut up

I was in the military too, but I don't guess I'm your buddy, right!
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Implant Guy on December 12, 2006, 08:43:48 pm
I'm not in Nashville.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: softyball on December 12, 2006, 08:45:35 pm
Quote from: ljmom on December 12, 2006, 08:41:48 pm
I never saw Booneville produce any proof that a bad call was made. 

From the still shots I have seen about Saturday's game,  Warren hasn't shown me any proof either.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: paintballpaki on December 12, 2006, 08:46:51 pm
Quote from: Vice President RD on December 12, 2006, 07:21:57 pm
The State knows...

Any true fan of the game knows.

It's a tainted title.
true true
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: ljmom on December 12, 2006, 08:49:08 pm
Quote from: Implant Guy on December 12, 2006, 08:43:48 pm
I'm not in Nashville.

I'm just saying that classless fans isn't a problem that is exclusive to Warren. 
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Garo on December 12, 2006, 08:49:37 pm
Quote from: ljmom on December 12, 2006, 08:42:41 pm
Some folks can't help but be classless.  There's plenty of them in Nashville too... 
I agree some folks can't help from being classless and there are some in Nashville too.  There weren't a just half a dozen of your fans involved.  The boo's were a roar coming from your side.  It wasn't just some folks.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: softyball on December 12, 2006, 08:50:25 pm
Quote from: ljmom on December 12, 2006, 08:49:08 pm
Quote from: Implant Guy on December 12, 2006, 08:43:48 pm
I'm not in Nashville.

I'm just saying that classless fans isn't a problem that is exclusive to Warren. 

Agreed
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: ljmom on December 12, 2006, 08:52:09 pm
Quote from: Fred Garvin M.P. on December 12, 2006, 08:45:35 pm
Quote from: ljmom on December 12, 2006, 08:41:48 pm
I never saw Booneville produce any proof that a bad call was made. 

From the still shots I have seen about Saturday's game,  Warren hasn't shown me any proof either.

I keep reading posts about the ball bouncing back into J's hands... on still shots... 

I'm not seeing any movement at all when I view them.  Maybe I need to have a drink, or ten, first...   ???
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: softyball on December 12, 2006, 08:53:39 pm
His body bounced.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: paintballpaki on December 12, 2006, 08:54:40 pm
that clears it up
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: seark66 on December 12, 2006, 08:54:42 pm
Quote from: Fred Garvin M.P. on December 12, 2006, 08:53:39 pm
His body bounced.

...which isn't relevent because he broke the plane before any part of his body hit the ground.
Title: Re: EVERYONE SEEMS TO HAVE FORGOT
Post by: paintballpaki on December 12, 2006, 08:55:16 pm
Quote from: paraloma on December 12, 2006, 03:16:56 pm
Quote from: JACK D BACK 27 on December 12, 2006, 03:14:03 pm
THAT WARREN GOT A TOUCHDOWN CALLED BACK ON A INELGIBLE MAN DOWN FIELD IF THEY DO NOT MAKE THAT MISTAKE THEY AREUP 21-7 SO ALL THE PEOPLE WHO ARE SAYING NASHVILLE DOMINATED THE GAME THEY COULD HAVE EASILY BEEN DOWN 2 TOUCHDOWNS IN THE THIRD QUARTER GREAT GAME BY TWO GREAT PROGRAMS
this is true

Or,....Nashville makes a field goal in regulation or the first overtime and there is no debate.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: seark66 on December 12, 2006, 08:56:27 pm
Quote from: scrapper_mlm on December 12, 2006, 06:28:26 pm

THE BALL CLEARLY FELL BE4 THE LINE AND BESIDES HIS KNEE WAS TOUCHING THE TURF!!

It is kinda' funny that a slew of "Nashville" fans with 10 or less posts have come out to argue this. Everybody in Nashville trying to defend their "championship"?
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Garo on December 12, 2006, 09:08:56 pm
Quote from: seark66 on December 12, 2006, 08:54:42 pm
Quote from: Fred Garvin M.P. on December 12, 2006, 08:53:39 pm
His body bounced.

...which isn't relevent because he broke the plane before any part of his body hit the ground.
Well I guess that settles it.  You had every right to boo our kids as they received their awards.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: JackStar on December 12, 2006, 09:12:08 pm
Quote from: Garo on December 12, 2006, 09:08:56 pm
Quote from: seark66 on December 12, 2006, 08:54:42 pm
Quote from: Fred Garvin M.P. on December 12, 2006, 08:53:39 pm
His body bounced.

...which isn't relevent because he broke the plane before any part of his body hit the ground.
Well I guess that settles it.  You had every right to boo our kids as they received their awards.
not at all what he was adressing.  I was not booing..to be completely honest, you do not want to know what I was yelling.  I was mad at anything and everything that was taking my/our state championship away.  Today, I hold no hard feelings to Nashville except the fact that they still try to defend the call.  It was just a continuous boo in my opinion...it started before the awards were presented and lasted well after. 
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Garo on December 12, 2006, 09:17:21 pm
And I harbor no bad feeling for Warren except the fact they continue to whine about the call and deny they booed our players.  Other than that...that's about it.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: softyball on December 12, 2006, 09:17:45 pm
Quote from: seark66 on December 12, 2006, 08:54:42 pm
Quote from: Fred Garvin M.P. on December 12, 2006, 08:53:39 pm
His body bounced.

...which isn't relevent because he broke the plane before any part of his body hit the ground.

That is where you are completely wrong.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: softyball on December 12, 2006, 09:23:56 pm
What I want to see is a good Still at the exact moment the plane was broken.  The large still posted on the Warren fan's site is well beyond that point.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Implant Guy on December 12, 2006, 09:26:32 pm
It's 9:25.  In only 35 more minutes the whole world will know.  Better get the television warmed up!
Title: Re: EVERYONE SEEMS TO HAVE FORGOT
Post by: howdoyoulike on December 12, 2006, 09:29:28 pm
Quote from: xcheer on December 12, 2006, 08:20:53 pm
If a pass was called back for illegal man down field, the umpire makes that call. Did'nt the umpire make the failed conversion call also?

Good observation.  The ump should have never made the call.  The line ref should have.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: The critic on December 12, 2006, 09:29:32 pm
Fred Garvin and Garo, be sure to watch the news at 10, then give me your opinions.  I promise, the warren fans had reason to boo.  And I'm not from Warren.  Not the kids, but in general.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: softyball on December 12, 2006, 09:34:10 pm
Quote from: The critic on December 12, 2006, 09:29:32 pm
Fred Garvin and Garo, be sure to watch the news at 10, then give me your opinions.  I promise, the warren fans had reason to boo.  And I'm not from Warren.  Not the kids, but in general.

Will do.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Garo on December 12, 2006, 09:35:10 pm
I watched at 6..Sullivan said they have seen the tape and slo-mo'd over and over and they can't tell.  So don't expect anything revealing.  And you had no right to boo the kids during thier awards in any event regardless of the call...Period.  I don't really care about the call..
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: purplegoldpatrol on December 12, 2006, 09:39:30 pm
The  game was played on the field.  Does everyone remember the days of no replay and the everyone shook hands after great games... What has happen to class and sportsmanship. One call does not lose a game.

Would ther been a bad call if the field goal at regulation was made. NO!!

SO  LEAVE IT ON..  LET THE GAME BE AS IS !!!

Both team played their hearts out. It was a great championship game. To taint the game wiht all this bull is sorry by fans of both schools.

There are "so called" bad calls in every game on every friday night in Arkansas, depending if you are the wininng fans or losing. The bad calls are usually brought out by the losing fans.


By the way not a fan of either school but a fan of the Game...



Title: Re: All I want for christmas this year is...
Post by: OldScrap on December 12, 2006, 09:39:59 pm
Instant replay, I believe they are many more thing more worthy of spending money on than instant replay, this is not the NFL, and the AAA does not have a bottomless pocketbook like the NFL does

Besides that, they would still be disputes over the close calls. On real close calls both sides are going to look at it with their prejudice and the one the call is against is not going to be happy.

And it would not be right to have instant replay in the big game if it was not in all games.

For they might be a few missed up calls in regular season football games that might keep a team out of the big game when it ought to be there playing.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: gunman on December 12, 2006, 09:43:06 pm
is there a minimum # of posts to be able to read 21-20...game over, do layups
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Garo on December 12, 2006, 09:44:09 pm
Quote from: Justafan7&8AAA on December 12, 2006, 09:39:30 pm
The  game was played on the field.  Does everyone remember the days of no replay and the everyone shook hands after great games... What has happen to class and sportsmanship. One call does not lose a game.

Would ther been a bad call if the field goal at regulation was made. NO!!

SO  LEAVE IT ON..  LET THE GAME BE AS IS !!!

Both team played their hearts out. It was a great championship game. To taint the game wiht all this bull is sorry by fans of both schools.

There are "so called" bad calls in every game on every friday night in Arkansas, depending if you are the wininng fans or losing. The bad calls are usually brought out by the losing fans.

By the way not a fan of either school but a fan of the Game...

Agreed.  Good post.  If only it would do some good.  We are all tired of this bickering. A clap for you.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: ArkieRef on December 12, 2006, 09:55:31 pm
Quote from: SCRAPPER MOM#1 on December 11, 2006, 09:35:40 pm
Still the question.? Was the knee down first or was the ball across the plain first?? I still need more proof myself.
It's not a question of if the knee was down first. The question is this, Where was the spot of the ball WHEN the knee went down?
The LOCATION of the BALL is marked down, NOT a knee or any other part of the body. I am a football official and I know what I would have called but, I'll keep it to myself because it doesn't matter now.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: donkeys jawbone on December 12, 2006, 09:57:01 pm
if i'm not mistaken, that shadow under jay's leg in the picture ya'll are showing  is just the left overs of some goodyear mudgrip being drug up from the bottom of the artificial grass by the lineman who nearly got in jay's way. if they hadn't put that dang fake grass down, we might be able to get to bottom of this. i will say it was a heck of an effort by 54 of the scraps to make the play and there is some great blocking going on by warren. the kid kicking up the rubber deserves an extra wood choppin helmet sticker for the fantastic effort he gave to try to help his boy get in. i've seen the video 52 times, and he got in 26 of those times. but he landed early the other 26. anybody else want to referee a call like this one in real-time speed with a state championship on the line?
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: Garo on December 12, 2006, 10:06:17 pm
Quote from: seark66 on December 12, 2006, 08:56:27 pm
Quote from: scrapper_mlm on December 12, 2006, 06:28:26 pm

THE BALL CLEARLY FELL BE4 THE LINE AND BESIDES HIS KNEE WAS TOUCHING THE TURF!!

It is kinda' funny that a slew of "Nashville" fans with 10 or less posts have come out to argue this. Everybody in Nashville trying to defend their "championship"?
Yes it is.  It's also kind of funny that Warren fans that I've never seen on these boards before this week have come out to tear it down.  Go figure.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: JackYodler on December 12, 2006, 10:14:05 pm
All i'm saying is put yourselves in our shoes, i love the way that the Nashville fans are acting high and mighty and as if they wouldn't act the way Warren has.  Nashville, we don't blame you for the call, it's just a hard pill to swallow.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Garo on December 12, 2006, 10:23:05 pm
Quote from: JackYodler on December 12, 2006, 10:14:05 pm
All i'm saying is put yourselves in our shoes, i love the way that the Nashville fans are acting high and mighty and as if they wouldn't act the way Warren has.  Nashville, we don't blame you for the call, it's just a hard pill to swallow.
Believe me, we do understand.  And I'm not saying that some Nashville fans would not do the same..But not all of us.  This is all tearing two great communities apart.  The rest of the state, frankly, could care less.  Before this incident, we were all respectful for each others programs.  I've never had anything but praise and respect for the Lumberjacks.  But if we don't all put this behind us, real damage will be done...but it seems no one wants to call a truce.
Title: Re: EVERYONE SEEMS TO HAVE FORGOT
Post by: thewholehog on December 12, 2006, 10:28:13 pm
Heard the UMPIRE threw 5 of 8 called against Warren.

GO JACKS 22-21
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: ljmom on December 12, 2006, 10:30:46 pm
Quote from: Garo on December 12, 2006, 09:35:10 pm
I watched at 6..Sullivan said they have seen the tape and slo-mo'd over and over and they can't tell.  So don't expect anything revealing.  And you had no right to boo the kids during thier awards in any event regardless of the call...Period.  I don't really care about the call..

I watched at 6 and I didn't hear Sully say "they can't tell."  How many others heard Sully make that statement? 

They won't "tell."  They are going to remain neutral.  But, they're letting the rest of the state see it and make up their own minds.  Geesh!
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: ljmom on December 12, 2006, 10:33:20 pm
Funny, he says the call was made by an official that "didn't have the benefit of replay."  And he didn't give his "call."      He said the call was tough and he wouldn't want to make it.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Garo on December 12, 2006, 10:33:48 pm
Quote from: ljmom on December 12, 2006, 10:30:46 pm
Quote from: Garo on December 12, 2006, 09:35:10 pm
I watched at 6..Sullivan said they have seen the tape and slo-mo'd over and over and they can't tell.  So don't expect anything revealing.  And you had no right to boo the kids during thier awards in any event regardless of the call...Period.  I don't really care about the call..

I watched at 6 and I didn't hear Sully say "they can't tell."  How many others heard Sully make that statement? 

They won't "tell."  They are going to remain neutral.  But, they're letting the rest of the state see it and make up their own minds.  Geesh!
Did you hear him make the statement just now? I didn't say Sully made the call.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: howdoyoulike on December 12, 2006, 10:34:47 pm
Quote from: Garo on December 12, 2006, 08:36:47 pm
It wasn't just THE trophy...it was the individual awards presented to each player on our side.  After that performance by the Warren fans, we had every right to boo the presentations of your players but you didn't hear a peep from us.

If Warren fans had no right to boo Nashville's presentation of awards, Nashville would have no right to boo Warren's presentation of awards.  Just because one group or person does something unworthy doesn't give the opponent "the right" to do the same unworthy thing.  
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: JackStar on December 12, 2006, 10:36:45 pm
Sully did everything but say it was the wrong call.  I am happy... the whole state has seen the injustice.  That's all a player could ask for at this point.  Maybe it will be evaluated on a larger scale one day.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Garo on December 12, 2006, 10:37:48 pm
Quote from: howdoyoulike on December 12, 2006, 10:34:47 pm
Quote from: Garo on December 12, 2006, 08:36:47 pm
It wasn't just THE trophy...it was the individual awards presented to each player on our side.  After that performance by the Warren fans, we had every right to boo the presentations of your players but you didn't hear a peep from us.
Which is why you didn't hear a peep from us.

If Warren fans had no right to boo Nashville's presentation of awards, Nashville would have no right to boo Warren's presentation of awards.  Just because one group or person does something unworthy doesn't give the opponent "the right" to do the same unworthy thing.  
Which is why you didn't hear a peep from us.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: seark66 on December 12, 2006, 10:38:44 pm
Everyone has had a chance to see the play now. People can make their own decisions on the mistake. As far as I'm concerned, it can now be left alone. People know what happened.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: JackStar on December 12, 2006, 10:39:50 pm
Quote from: Garo on December 12, 2006, 10:37:48 pm
Quote from: howdoyoulike on December 12, 2006, 10:34:47 pm
Quote from: Garo on December 12, 2006, 08:36:47 pm
It wasn't just THE trophy...it was the individual awards presented to each player on our side.  After that performance by the Warren fans, we had every right to boo the presentations of your players but you didn't hear a peep from us.
Which is why you didn't hear a peep from us.

If Warren fans had no right to boo Nashville's presentation of awards, Nashville would have no right to boo Warren's presentation of awards.  Just because one group or person does something unworthy doesn't give the opponent "the right" to do the same unworthy thing.  
Which is why you didn't hear a peep from us.
Nashville knew better than to say a peep after that replay was shown.  It is one thing to win a game like that.  Then it is another to act like it was a good call.  Nashville handled it well at the game I thought...took their trophy clapped appropriately and turned tail....then the nashville fans on here well....
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Garo on December 12, 2006, 10:42:25 pm
Quote from: intangible on December 12, 2006, 10:39:50 pm
Quote from: Garo on December 12, 2006, 10:37:48 pm
Quote from: howdoyoulike on December 12, 2006, 10:34:47 pm
Quote from: Garo on December 12, 2006, 08:36:47 pm
It wasn't just THE trophy...it was the individual awards presented to each player on our side.  After that performance by the Warren fans, we had every right to boo the presentations of your players but you didn't hear a peep from us.
Which is why you didn't hear a peep from us.

If Warren fans had no right to boo Nashville's presentation of awards, Nashville would have no right to boo Warren's presentation of awards.  Just because one group or person does something unworthy doesn't give the opponent "the right" to do the same unworthy thing.  
Which is why you didn't hear a peep from us.
Nashville knew better than to say a peep after that replay was shown.  It is one thing to win a game like that.  Then it is another to act like it was a good call.  Nashville handled it well at the game I thought...took their trophy clapped appropriately and turned tail....then the nashville fans on here well....
Your comments are the reason Nashville players are NOT allowed to post here.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: RisonRacingFan on December 12, 2006, 10:43:21 pm
Quote from: ljmom on December 12, 2006, 10:30:46 pm
Quote from: Garo on December 12, 2006, 09:35:10 pm
I watched at 6..Sullivan said they have seen the tape and slo-mo'd over and over and they can't tell.  So don't expect anything revealing.  And you had no right to boo the kids during thier awards in any event regardless of the call...Period.  I don't really care about the call..

I watched at 6 and I didn't hear Sully say "they can't tell."  How many others heard Sully make that statement? 

They won't "tell."  They are going to remain neutral.  But, they're letting the rest of the state see it and make up their own minds.  Geesh!

Saw the 6 pm show and Sully did say that.I did not get to see the video clip...but have seen several photos..and from what I have seen..his knee was down before he crossed the plain of the goal line..IF THAT IS THE CORRECT PLAY THAT I WAS SHOWN
Title: I must say...2 pt. conversion is good.
Post by: The critic on December 12, 2006, 10:43:24 pm
The whole state just saw it. 
Title: Re: I must say...2 pt. conversion is good.
Post by: Implant Guy on December 12, 2006, 10:44:31 pm
The whole state is still divided.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: The critic on December 12, 2006, 10:45:44 pm
Yea, but when i called channel 7 and asked why then didn't show it at 6, I also asked their opinion on the play and they said they had to be nuetral.
Title: Re: I must say...2 pt. conversion is good.
Post by: RisonRacingFan on December 12, 2006, 10:45:54 pm
Stop the complaining..lets just play the game over...thats what I say.
Title: Re: I must say...2 pt. conversion is good.
Post by: The critic on December 12, 2006, 10:46:02 pm
don't think the state is still divided.  Anybody that knows football and saw the play know it was a successful 2 pt conversion.  Heck, they even froze the shot when the ball was in the endzone with his legs still in the air.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: FootballGuy43 on December 12, 2006, 10:46:46 pm
Well honestly this is being taken way out of proportion. Bottom line, Nashville won the game and there was a questionable call made on the field that could have turned the trophy over to the Lumberjacks. People need to accept this and move on. This is not the first time a team was screwed out of a win and lost their chance at the title. I do not believe Nashville wanted it won by a referee's jurisdiction but that is the way it turned out. The game should never be put into the ref's hands in the first place. But it just so turned out like that and Warren left disheartened. I can sympathize with them but I could just as easily sympathize with Nashville's fans. 

How would you like to receive something you worked hard for all year and to hear boos surround the arena when you are receiving the most prestigious award in High school football? I would feel as if I had done something wrong and that should not be placed on the players on either side. That is not proper and should not be tolerated. We need to stop bickering about the past and look forward to the future.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: gmac on December 12, 2006, 10:47:08 pm
now we have seen the play, the call was he did not get in, so get over it! the scrappers WON.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: The critic on December 12, 2006, 10:51:11 pm
Why would Nashville want a trophy that they didn't win?
Title: Re: I must say...2 pt. conversion is good.
Post by: Implant Guy on December 12, 2006, 10:52:52 pm
I've seen picture after picture.  None of them has proven anything for either argument.
Title: Re: I must say...2 pt. conversion is good.
Post by: The Grudge on December 12, 2006, 10:53:27 pm
Quote from: Rison Tradition on December 12, 2006, 10:45:54 pm
Stop the complaining..lets just play the game over...thats what I say.

agreed
Title: Re: I must say...2 pt. conversion is good.
Post by: COWGIRLUPAR on December 12, 2006, 10:54:46 pm
I agree he was in.  But no one is going to make it right.  Maybe they should re-play the game, but they won't.  I really hate it for the kids.  They will never have the trophy, but they will always know in their hearts..........they deserved it.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: FootballGuy43 on December 12, 2006, 10:55:08 pm
Quote from: The critic on December 12, 2006, 10:51:11 pm
Why would Nashville want a trophy that they didn't win?

Nashville won that trophy regardless of the opinions on this board. Bottom line is that it is at their High School and will remain in the trophy case.
Title: Re: I must say...2 pt. conversion is good.
Post by: Implant Guy on December 12, 2006, 10:55:18 pm
At this point, I am with Grudge & Rison Tradition.
Title: Re: I must say...2 pt. conversion is good.
Post by: FootballGuy43 on December 12, 2006, 10:56:43 pm
I don't see how the state could be divided when half of the state would just look at the paper and see the score and not give it a second glance.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: softyball on December 12, 2006, 10:57:37 pm
To begin with almost no one around here even gets channel 7.   I however do, and I also have a high end VCR that I'm able to slo-mo the slo-mo.  I also  have 60 inches of screen to look at so I was finally able to get a much better idea now of what really occurred.  I haven't responded because I just finished  doing a "super heavy duty"  review.  On further review, he did not bounce as I thought earlier.  As far as the knee/plane is concerned, it looks like they occurred at exactly the same instant.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: seark66 on December 12, 2006, 10:57:57 pm
Quote from: RKO on December 12, 2006, 10:54:28 pm
Well all I can say is Warrns Coach said it wads over thats just in and 2nd Sully said his knee was down thats just in too..In result Game over nashville wins and there Coach said to move on its over its high schoo football..Hey even Congrat Nashville on there win So grow up  that post that are not playing and move on thats my final bottom line.

He said the umpire called his knee down. Steve Sullivan never gave an opinion on the play, which was the correct thing for him to do. Regardless, people have seen the play and now understand what all the 'bickering' has been about.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: scrappermom46 on December 12, 2006, 10:58:12 pm
So tell what did channel seven say........... my satellite doesn't get that channel?....... anything?
Title: Re: EVERYONE SEEMS TO HAVE FORGOT
Post by: FootballGuy43 on December 12, 2006, 10:58:36 pm
Quote from: The Grudge on December 12, 2006, 07:51:06 pm
ha thats yalls little runner up rings your talking about,we also cant help we had double the amount of total yards of offense yall had ;D

Statistics don't really matter...all that matters is the scoreboard and by looking at that, Warren gave you more than you wanted and probably should have the trophy in their case.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: FootballGuy43 on December 12, 2006, 11:00:50 pm
It was probably neutral and I bet the media will probably try to keep their noses out of this debate.
Title: Re: I must say...2 pt. conversion is good.
Post by: panther_pride on December 12, 2006, 11:03:10 pm
Quote from: BigBen7 on December 12, 2006, 10:56:43 pm
I don't see how the state could be divided when half of the state would just look at the paper and see the score and not give it a second glance.
Correct... I would guess that at least 60% of the state doesn't care one bit...
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: The critic on December 12, 2006, 11:03:13 pm
Quote from: Fred Garvin M.P. on December 12, 2006, 10:57:37 pm
To begin with almost no one around here even gets channel 7.   I however do, and I also have a high end VCR that I'm able to slo-mo the slo-mo.  I also  have 60 inches of screen to look at so I was finally able to get a much better idea now of what really occurred.  I haven't responded because I just finished  doing a "super heavy duty"  review.  On further review, he did not bounce as I thought earlier.  As far as the knee/plane is concerned, it looks like they occurred at exactly the same instant.

Which is a touchdown.  And they even froze it when the ball was one the ground in the endzone with both legs still in the air
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Garo on December 12, 2006, 11:03:58 pm
Quote from: Fred Garvin M.P. on December 12, 2006, 10:57:37 pm
To begin with almost no one around here even gets channel 7.   I however do, and I also have a high end VCR that I'm able to slo-mo the slo-mo.  I also  have 60 inches of screen to look at so I was finally able to get a much better idea now of what really occurred.  I haven't responded because I just finished  doing a "super heavy duty"  review.  On further review, he did not bounce as I thought earlier.  As far as the knee/plane is concerned, it looks like they occurred at exactly the same instant.
I agree..it looked simultaneous to me too.  It could have gone either way.
Title: Re: I must say...2 pt. conversion is good.
Post by: Implant Guy on December 12, 2006, 11:04:03 pm
BigBen, good post.  As a percentage, most of the state does not care.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: FootballGuy43 on December 12, 2006, 11:05:40 pm
The refs sounded like they were in a bind. This call was not an easy one but after much review, it looked more discernable than most people would have guessed.
Title: Re: I must say...2 pt. conversion is good.
Post by: FootballGuy43 on December 12, 2006, 11:07:26 pm
Most cannot travel because it is an inconvenience and would rather pick up the paper and read it from there. This is really a NON-issue and should be discarded.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: scrappermom46 on December 12, 2006, 11:09:25 pm
Quote from: Fred Garvin M.P. on December 12, 2006, 10:57:37 pm
To begin with almost no one around here even gets channel 7.   I however do, and I also have a high end VCR that I'm able to slo-mo the slo-mo.  I also  have 60 inches of screen to look at so I was finally able to get a much better idea now of what really occurred.  I haven't responded because I just finished  doing a "super heavy duty"  review.  On further review, he did not bounce as I thought earlier.  As far as the knee/plane is concerned, it looks like they occurred at exactly the same instant.
So you don't know either? ok so it stays as is, Nashville wins! I do know that both teams did a great job. So leave it alone it is over. That will just make Warren more mad at Nashville and when they go head to head again they will come back harder. But you never know Nashville will probably be just as excited to meet up with Warren again, it will be another great ballgame. Lets just say they gave Warren the 2 pointer, Nashville would NEVER boo the other team. No one deserves that, not even the kids. If you are going to be mad at anyone don't be mad at Nashville, THEY DIDN'T MAKE THE CALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: I must say...2 pt. conversion is good.
Post by: scrappermom46 on December 12, 2006, 11:12:21 pm
Quote from: Rison Tradition on December 12, 2006, 10:45:54 pm
Stop the complaining..lets just play the game over...thats what I say.
LETS? I dont believe you are on that team, or either team for that matter!
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: The critic on December 12, 2006, 11:13:26 pm
Quote from: Garo on December 12, 2006, 11:03:58 pm
Quote from: Fred Garvin M.P. on December 12, 2006, 10:57:37 pm
To begin with almost no one around here even gets channel 7.   I however do, and I also have a high end VCR that I'm able to slo-mo the slo-mo.  I also  have 60 inches of screen to look at so I was finally able to get a much better idea now of what really occurred.  I haven't responded because I just finished  doing a "super heavy duty"  review.  On further review, he did not bounce as I thought earlier.  As far as the knee/plane is concerned, it looks like they occurred at exactly the same instant.
I agree..it looked simultaneous to me too.  It could have gone either way.

If it is simultaneous, then it is a TD.
Title: Re: I must say...2 pt. conversion is good.
Post by: FootballGuy43 on December 12, 2006, 11:13:38 pm
That would be like suggesting a Michigan and Ohio State rematch...not necessary.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: softyball on December 12, 2006, 11:13:53 pm
Quote from: The critic on December 12, 2006, 11:03:13 pm
Quote from: Fred Garvin M.P. on December 12, 2006, 10:57:37 pm
To begin with almost no one around here even gets channel 7.   I however do, and I also have a high end VCR that I'm able to slo-mo the slo-mo.  I also  have 60 inches of screen to look at so I was finally able to get a much better idea now of what really occurred.  I haven't responded because I just finished  doing a "super heavy duty"  review.  On further review, he did not bounce as I thought earlier.  As far as the knee/plane is concerned, it looks like they occurred at exactly the same instant.

Which is a touchdown.  And they even froze it when the ball was one the ground in the endzone with both legs still in the air

No it is not.  Just a verrrry close call for a man to have to make in a split second.  When I say exactly the same instant, I mean exactly.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: FootballGuy43 on December 12, 2006, 11:14:53 pm
This game is the breeding ground for scrutiny I swear. I am just ready for next season to start.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Garo on December 12, 2006, 11:16:31 pm
Quote from: The critic on December 12, 2006, 11:13:26 pm
Quote from: Garo on December 12, 2006, 11:03:58 pm
Quote from: Fred Garvin M.P. on December 12, 2006, 10:57:37 pm
To begin with almost no one around here even gets channel 7.   I however do, and I also have a high end VCR that I'm able to slo-mo the slo-mo.  I also  have 60 inches of screen to look at so I was finally able to get a much better idea now of what really occurred.  I haven't responded because I just finished  doing a "super heavy duty"  review.  On further review, he did not bounce as I thought earlier.  As far as the knee/plane is concerned, it looks like they occurred at exactly the same instant.
I agree..it looked simultaneous to me too.  It could have gone either way.

If it is simultaneous, then it is a TD.
I'll just say I'm glad I didn't have to make that call in a split second instead of having 3 days of fuzzy pictures and video replays real time and slo-mo and still not agree on anything.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: softyball on December 12, 2006, 11:17:07 pm
Quote from: The critic on December 12, 2006, 11:13:26 pm
Quote from: Garo on December 12, 2006, 11:03:58 pm
Quote from: Fred Garvin M.P. on December 12, 2006, 10:57:37 pm
To begin with almost no one around here even gets channel 7.   I however do, and I also have a high end VCR that I'm able to slo-mo the slo-mo.  I also  have 60 inches of screen to look at so I was finally able to get a much better idea now of what really occurred.  I haven't responded because I just finished  doing a "super heavy duty"  review.  On further review, he did not bounce as I thought earlier.  As far as the knee/plane is concerned, it looks like they occurred at exactly the same instant.
I agree..it looked simultaneous to me too.  It could have gone either way.

If it is simultaneous, then it is a TD.

Where do you get that?
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: FootballGuy43 on December 12, 2006, 11:18:58 pm
If it is simultaneous then the ref is stuck between a rock and a hard place and has to make a judgement call...
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: softyball on December 12, 2006, 11:20:41 pm
He was scoring just as he downed himself.  He downed himself just as he was scoring.  tell me the difference.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: ljmom on December 12, 2006, 11:21:15 pm
The refs had to make a judgment call, but the wrong ref made it.  That's a LOT of the problem.  As far as Bo's concerned, it's THE problem.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: The critic on December 12, 2006, 11:21:44 pm
where ever the ball is when the knee hits, that is the spot.  If the ball was crossing the plain simultaneous to the knee hitting the ground, then you have touchdown.  But if i can ever figure out how to put a picture on here, I will show you that the ball was in the endzone before his knees touched.
Title: Re: I must say...2 pt. conversion is good.
Post by: panther_pride on December 12, 2006, 11:22:15 pm
Quote from: The critic on December 12, 2006, 10:43:24 pm
The whole state just saw it. 
How many people in the "whole" state get channel 7?
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: FootballGuy43 on December 12, 2006, 11:22:31 pm
Well the AAA will definitely look into this mess but don't expect an instant solution...
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: OK Guess who2 on December 12, 2006, 11:22:37 pm
Quote from: Moron Detector on December 12, 2006, 03:34:38 pm
Quote from: paraloma on December 12, 2006, 03:09:53 pm
No score.

(http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/4353/noscorecg3.jpg)

Now THAT is funny!




OMG, this is hilarious!
I think scrappers know they lost, just dont care since call was in their favor!
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Garo on December 12, 2006, 11:23:15 pm
Quote from: ljmom on December 12, 2006, 11:21:15 pm
The refs had to make a judgment call, but the wrong ref made it.  That's a LOT of the problem.  As far as Bo's concerned, it's THE problem.
Dear Lord..help us all.
Title: Re: I must say...2 pt. conversion is good.
Post by: FootballGuy43 on December 12, 2006, 11:23:49 pm
I get it because we have satellite but I am not an every day viewer and don't usually view sports on that channel. I usually watch KAIT8 News and see all my sports news.
Title: Re: I must say...2 pt. conversion is good.
Post by: panther_pride on December 12, 2006, 11:24:32 pm
Quote from: BigBen7 on December 12, 2006, 11:23:49 pm
I get it because we have satellite but I am not an every day viewer and don't usually view sports on that channel. I usually watch KAIT8 News and see all my sports news.
I have Shreveport locals...
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: FootballGuy43 on December 12, 2006, 11:24:47 pm
Quote from: Garo on December 12, 2006, 11:23:15 pm
Quote from: ljmom on December 12, 2006, 11:21:15 pm
The refs had to make a judgment call, but the wrong ref made it.  That's a LOT of the problem.  As far as Bo's concerned, it's THE problem.
Dear Lord..help us all.

I think he's going to throw this one in the lost column and search for a problem worth solving.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: ljmom on December 12, 2006, 11:24:54 pm
Quote from: Garo on December 12, 2006, 11:23:15 pm
Quote from: ljmom on December 12, 2006, 11:21:15 pm
The refs had to make a judgment call, but the wrong ref made it.  That's a LOT of the problem.  As far as Bo's concerned, it's THE problem.
Dear Lord..help us all.

::)
Title: Re: I must say...2 pt. conversion is good.
Post by: FootballGuy43 on December 12, 2006, 11:25:33 pm
Quote from: pantherfan56 on December 12, 2006, 11:24:32 pm
Quote from: BigBen7 on December 12, 2006, 11:23:49 pm
I get it because we have satellite but I am not an every day viewer and don't usually view sports on that channel. I usually watch KAIT8 News and see all my sports news.
I have Shreveport locals...

Are you a Louisiana native?
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Garo on December 12, 2006, 11:26:13 pm
Quote from: BigBen7 on December 12, 2006, 11:24:47 pm
Quote from: Garo on December 12, 2006, 11:23:15 pm
Quote from: ljmom on December 12, 2006, 11:21:15 pm
The refs had to make a judgment call, but the wrong ref made it.  That's a LOT of the problem.  As far as Bo's concerned, it's THE problem.
Dear Lord..help us all.

I think he's going to throw this one in the lost column and search for a problem worth solving.
I pray that he does.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: ljmom on December 12, 2006, 11:29:04 pm
It's in the hands of the AAA, they will have to address it.  It won't change what happened this time, but maybe it will stop future problems like this. 

I'm betting that the jumbotron won't be used again for HS championship games.     

If the play had not been shown again, we wouldn't have had the problems, of the last few days.
Title: Re: I must say...2 pt. conversion is good.
Post by: panther_pride on December 12, 2006, 11:29:10 pm
Quote from: BigBen7 on December 12, 2006, 11:25:33 pm
Quote from: pantherfan56 on December 12, 2006, 11:24:32 pm
Quote from: BigBen7 on December 12, 2006, 11:23:49 pm
I get it because we have satellite but I am not an every day viewer and don't usually view sports on that channel. I usually watch KAIT8 News and see all my sports news.
I have Shreveport locals...

Are you a Louisiana native?
No, I live in Ashdown... They are the locals offered to this area.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: FootballGuy43 on December 12, 2006, 11:30:07 pm
Your prayer will be answered toward spring hopefully...I don't know really because I am not a messenger of the Almighty so I have no clue.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Orange rush on December 12, 2006, 11:30:30 pm

everyone talks about the 1.75 like Nashville is the only school that voted on it. The only schools to vote against it was the private schools.  Stop blaming Nashville because they said what everyone was thinking.   I think the private schools should just get their own league and be done with it.

Title: Re: I must say...2 pt. conversion is good.
Post by: FootballGuy43 on December 12, 2006, 11:32:13 pm
Ohhh, alright that explains it. I was not really sure when you said Shreveport because I don't know where they offer they local stations.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Garo on December 12, 2006, 11:33:07 pm
Quote from: ljmom on December 12, 2006, 11:29:04 pm
It's in the hands of the AAA, they will have to address it.  It won't change what happened this time, but maybe it will stop future problems like this. 

I'm betting that the jumbotron won't be used again for HS championship games.    

If the play had not been shown again, we wouldn't have had the problems, of the last few days.
I believe we've found common ground.  Maybe this is a start?
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: FootballGuy43 on December 12, 2006, 11:35:50 pm
Quote from: Garo on December 12, 2006, 11:33:07 pm
Quote from: ljmom on December 12, 2006, 11:29:04 pm
It's in the hands of the AAA, they will have to address it.  It won't change what happened this time, but maybe it will stop future problems like this. 

I'm betting that the jumbotron won't be used again for HS championship games.    

If the play had not been shown again, we wouldn't have had the problems, of the last few days.
I believe we've found common ground.  Maybe this is a start?

I see a positive new beginning starting to flourish here...
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Garo on December 12, 2006, 11:43:08 pm
Quote from: BigBen7 on December 12, 2006, 11:35:50 pm
Quote from: Garo on December 12, 2006, 11:33:07 pm
Quote from: ljmom on December 12, 2006, 11:29:04 pm
It's in the hands of the AAA, they will have to address it.  It won't change what happened this time, but maybe it will stop future problems like this. 

I'm betting that the jumbotron won't be used again for HS championship games.    

If the play had not been shown again, we wouldn't have had the problems, of the last few days.
I believe we've found common ground.  Maybe this is a start?

I see a positive new beginning starting to flourish here...
We are willing and able.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: ljmom on December 12, 2006, 11:51:49 pm
Garo,

I think, we've had more common ground than you'd liked to admit, for a few days.  Seems you only wanted to see me as a Warren "homer." 

I do "call 'em like I see 'em."  This time, it looks to me like some pitiful decisions were made by the men in stripes.   Indecision, maybe, by those that should have made the call.  Another official, the wrong one, jumping in and making the call that he wasn't positioned to make...   Another bad decision was made by the person who put the replay up, for everyone to see.

The young men, on both teams, deserved better than what they got Saturday night and that's the AAA's fault. 

Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: C_A_Morris on December 12, 2006, 11:54:12 pm
Quote from: ljmom on December 12, 2006, 11:29:04 pmIf the play had not been shown again, we wouldn't have had the problems, of the last few days.

We live in a digital age.  Photographers can go to a game and shoot upwards of 1,000 photos.  Same thing with videographers.  This was bound to happen, but the fallout wouldn't have been as immediate.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: ljmom on December 12, 2006, 11:58:50 pm
Quote from: C_A_Morris on December 12, 2006, 11:54:12 pm
Quote from: ljmom on December 12, 2006, 11:29:04 pmIf the play had not been shown again, we wouldn't have had the problems, of the last few days.

We live in a digital age.  Photographers can go to a game and shoot upwards of 1,000 photos.  Same thing with videographers.  This was bound to happen, but the fallout wouldn't have been as immediate.

True.  The AAA opened pandora's box.  Now, they have to deal with the consequences.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Garo on December 13, 2006, 12:02:07 am
And I call em like I see em too.  I've said very little about "the call".  I was more hurt by the reaction to our players awards than anything that happened in the game.  I suppose by your name that you are a mother and I am a father of two beautiful children who I adore very much.  While neither one of them have ever lived in or attended Nashville schools (we live in Conway), I could only imagine what those kids parents felt Saturday night.

We would all like to see this end. 
 
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Bleachermom on December 13, 2006, 12:03:17 am
Quote from: Orange rush on December 12, 2006, 11:30:30 pm

everyone talks about the 1.75 like Nashville is the only school that voted on it. The only schools to vote against it was the private schools.  Stop blaming Nashville because they said what everyone was thinking.   I think the private schools should just get their own league and be done with it.
Wrong...Nashville's AD sponsored the proposal, told numerous people he was "going to get the private schools out of 3A (the old 3A classification), promoted it in the media and took credit for it in the media afterward.

Wrong...quite a few public school representatives voted against the proposal, and more have spoken up since to say that it was a mistake.

Wrong...there are not enough private schools to have a league in Arkansas.

In short, read more, post less.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: beaufort on December 13, 2006, 02:05:30 am
First High School Game of 2007....WARREN vs NASHVILLE at WMS.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: [el_CaC] on December 13, 2006, 02:12:49 am
Quote from: The critic on December 12, 2006, 10:51:11 pm
Why would Nashville want a trophy that they didn't win?

They did win it though.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: MY NAME BORAT on December 13, 2006, 03:16:30 am
Quote from: JackYodler on December 12, 2006, 06:53:29 pm
Noone cares what you think, Everyone in Arkansas except Nashville (a few actually do believe) believes that we won.  I hope that gold on your trophy turns green

I spent two hours looking at Arkansas newspapers and couldn't find one paper that even questioned the call. Let alone called it a bad call. Everyone said State Champions the Nashville Scrappers.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: policeman on December 13, 2006, 06:11:42 am
Why would the military saying this is a boched call mean anything.  I just got out of the Military 2 months ago, and what they or anyone else says doesn't mean crap, because the call was made, and in HS football, there are no replays.  Nashville won, Warren lost, get over it.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: zacbufkinismyhomie on December 13, 2006, 06:54:53 am
LOL HA!  Arguing over something that needs no arguement, we can talk about this until the end of time and you go back 20 years from now and still see the Nashville Scrappers as back-to-back State Champions in 2005 and 2006.  Need you say more?
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: jackfan1™ on December 13, 2006, 07:54:30 am
I just want to add some thoughts and then I truly want to move on:

I understand both sides.
Nashville is hurt their kids got booed...that was not called for but in the heat and passion of the moment, I can see how and why it may have happened. (I say MAY since I was not there.) I do think anyone who is passionate about the sport or their team will admit getting caught up in the frenzy and is less than honest if they say they would NEVER do the same thing. It is just not human nature to face that sort of insult and disappointment and sit there and smile sweetly and say, "OH well, good game." It is not a justification, just simple, painful truth. Am I happy about it? No, I never have approved of booing for any reason but you let one person start it and it spreads, especially in an intense situation like this. No one is immune, NOT even Nashville.

Next, for all who have argued vehemently against the call and stated emphatically he did NOT make it and all the proof in the world would not convince you, you have a right to your stubbornness. However, I think the Warren folks would have been able to "get over it" much better if someone had stepped and owned up to the fact that is was indeed a terribly blown call. The denial and insults only fueled the need to "prove" the call......hence the days of ya-ya'ing back and forth.

You have to ask yourself this: Regardless of how YOU see the call, regardless of whether you think he made it in.........there HAS to be some valid belief HE DID MAKE IT for the state's ABC affiliate to put themselves on the line and air the dang replay THREE DAYS LATER!
Does anyone honestly believe they have nothing better to air or talk about? There has to be enough contention that Warren got screwed for them to even CONSIDER putting it on their newscast.

So just maybe Warren is not only correct in feeling robbed, there are completely neutral observers who also recognize the truth. The worst part of it is, out of loyalty and protection to your team, Nashville's folks want to prove it wrong or deny it out right. I might want to do the same thing if I knew my team had actually lost but it does not change facts. Warren won the game by a point but due to a horrible call by a ref who knew better, the spoils went to the losers. It happens, it hurts, and they have every right to scream foul.

Proving the call does not change the outcome either. Nashville has the trophy, Warren has the bitter pill of knowing their rightful victory went to the other team. True, few people will remember this in a few years but for all of you screaming "get over it!" day after day after day.......YOU get over it! Warren has every right to feel robbed and they will get over it when they do........not on your time, not on mine........just when they feel they can. Until then, try to show some humility and compassion. You know Warren really won, regardless of all plays prior to the final buzzer. If victories were awarded only on stats and performance, it would be called a boxing match, not football.

Hopefully the relationship between the Scrappers and Lumberjacks is not permamently damaged but I am afraid it is. Too many hateful, hurtful barbs have been thrown......by both sides.......and sadly, it did not have to happen. Both are awesome teams with talent, heart, desire, and ability, Neither one deserved to lose but in the end, the wrong team did.

Warren, learn from this and correct your mistakes. Fans, check your emotions and remember the class and sportsmanship Warren has been known for. For all involved, try to remember these are high school kids. They deserve better.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: casper07 on December 13, 2006, 08:27:54 am
This is the MOST CONCLUSIVE evidence that I have seen! Warren, I hate it for you guys!
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: sam on December 13, 2006, 08:48:22 am
Just for the record, we are completely over the 2001 game and we were very quickly after the game.  Funny how an overachieving team can leave you with a better taste in your mouth than the 2 most underachieving teams I've ever seen. 

Anyway, my point in bringing up the 01 game is simply to show how ludicrous it is for losers to claim titles.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: jackfan1™ on December 13, 2006, 08:54:33 am
Quote from: sam on December 13, 2006, 08:48:22 am
Just for the record, we are completely over the 2001 game and we were very quickly after the game. 

And yet..................5 years later...........
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: Wahls on December 13, 2006, 08:57:39 am
Quote from: LionFan22 on December 12, 2006, 04:47:25 pm
HIs Elbow went down if you watch the video after the ball is accross....... if you look closely the ball is accross even before he starts comin down and the shots that show the ball not accross is when he pulled tha ball back after he hit the ground so he could look at the ref look its in the video u can't edit vids like that

Lets think logically here shall we... If the guy kept his knees from touching the ground, obviously he can't levitate, so that means his elbow had to have hit the ground, keeping his knees from hitting.

Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: GREEN on December 13, 2006, 09:10:44 am
Jackfan1 VERY well put.  Claps for you!
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: HA_Fan on December 13, 2006, 09:17:45 am
Quote from: ljmom on December 12, 2006, 11:29:04 pm
If the play had not been shown again, we wouldn't have had the problems, of the last few days.

If the call had been correct, we wouldn't have had the problems of the last few days.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: FootballGuy43 on December 13, 2006, 09:28:50 am
It would have switched roles and we would have some unhappy Scrappers on here...
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: mudturtle on December 13, 2006, 09:30:13 am
Quote from: DQ's Comin'. on December 13, 2006, 08:57:39 am
Lets think logically here shall we... If the guy kept his knees from touching the ground, obviously he can't levitate, so that means his elbow had to have hit the ground, keeping his knees from hitting.

I saw a guy dunk a basketball last night.  He wasn't touching the ground with his elbow, his foot, or his knee.  It is called a JUMP (or a dive).  It ends when you hit the ground, but not before.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: footballfan-tastic on December 13, 2006, 09:31:41 am
Is there a picture with absolute undeniable proof?  I not the only answer is good luck next year.  You want a real messup, that is when the ref comes up after the game and says, "I think we blew that call" and it cost a team the game.  How do you fix it?  you cannot.   You know life ain't always fair.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Old Lion on December 13, 2006, 09:38:52 am
Do you think if a ref would have called the runner on the touchdown with spiking the ball that maybe this whole nonsense could had been prevented? It definitely looked like a spike to me.
Title: Neutral Opinions on "The Play"
Post by: HA_Fan on December 13, 2006, 09:39:16 am
I don't know if this is possible, but I want to give it a shot.  I'm curious what the people who are neutral think.

IF YOU ARE NOT A NASHVILLE OR WARREN SUPPORTER and you have actually seen the video, looked at the pictures or were at the game, please say whether you think the Warren player was in on the 2-point conversion. 

Please mention where you are from and what team you support.  Don't turn this into another argument.  This doesn't concern jumbotrons or booing or what the ref called.  Simply your school and a yes or no.  NO POSTS FROM WARREN OR NASHVILLE PEOPLE PLEASE.

Only those with 50 posts or more or registered for more than 30 days.

HA_Fan
Searcy (Harding Academy)

Yes, I think he was in.



Results through page 3:

He was in - 17
He didn't make it - 6
Title: Re: Neutral Opinions on "The Play"
Post by: athletic supporter on December 13, 2006, 09:50:25 am
Atkins
(Atkins Red Devils, Dardanelle Sand Lizards, Ola Mustangs) Sorry!

I think he was in!
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: sam on December 13, 2006, 09:52:03 am
Quote from: sam on December 13, 2006, 08:48:22 am
Anyway, my point in bringing up the 01 game is simply to show how ludicrous it is for losers to claim titles.

Quote from: jackfan1 on December 13, 2006, 08:54:33 am
And yet..................5 years later...........

Read the whole post. 

Captain obvious says I'm making fun of you. 

I guess Captain obvious speaks a language you don't understand.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: FootballGuy43 on December 13, 2006, 09:52:25 am
They need to lock all the threads that have to do with that game...
Title: Re: Neutral Opinions on "The Play"
Post by: snakebite on December 13, 2006, 09:52:53 am
Murfreesboro....I don't think he was in.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: transplant on December 13, 2006, 09:53:43 am
There is no need to stop talking about the Warren/Booneville debacle.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: FootballGuy43 on December 13, 2006, 09:57:22 am
I'm talking about the Warren and Nashville debacle...this gets old real quick.
Title: Re: Neutral Opinions on "The Play"
Post by: 46Counter on December 13, 2006, 09:57:51 am
I personally do not like Warren very much, but he was in
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: transplant on December 13, 2006, 09:59:59 am
That won't happen.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: FootballGuy43 on December 13, 2006, 10:01:44 am
I know but one can only hope...anyways, when are some other times that a team has been screwed over in the championship game?
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: transplant on December 13, 2006, 10:03:39 am
If Nashville had lost I'd of been complaining about the ref's cheating us out of a score in the first half.

It's the loser's right to complain.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: FootballGuy43 on December 13, 2006, 10:08:04 am
yes but it would get old either way even if you guys were to lose the game.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: sam on December 13, 2006, 10:09:44 am
Well, I brought up the 01 state game simply to emulate Warren fans and to make fun of people and somehow these geniuses thought I was being serious about it. 

It's hard to offend people with questionable intelligence. 

I set the trap and they fell right in it, but the problem was they didn't know they were in it.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: FootballGuy43 on December 13, 2006, 10:18:17 am
That would be like a moronic fish biting a hook with the worm and still trying to swim...
Title: Re: Neutral Opinions on "The Play"
Post by: FootballGuy43 on December 13, 2006, 10:23:12 am
Walnut Ridge...I say he was in. The ball crossed the plain at almost the exact same time his knee touched the ground.
Title: Re: Neutral Opinions on "The Play"
Post by: lions44 on December 13, 2006, 10:24:59 am
im from england
i was at the game
i DONT think he made it!
nashville won!
Title: Re: Neutral Opinions on "The Play"
Post by: Missco on December 13, 2006, 10:26:38 am
I think it should have been good.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: jackfan1™ on December 13, 2006, 10:29:07 am
Quote from: sam on December 13, 2006, 10:09:44 am
Well, I brought up the 01 state game simply to emulate Warren fans and to make fun of people and somehow these geniuses thought I was being serious about it. 

It's hard to offend people with questionable intelligence. 

I set the trap and they fell right in it, but the problem was they didn't know they were in it.

Stop deluding yourself.
You are not nearly as cute and funny as you give yourself credit for so it is easy for anyone to overlook (ignore) your lame attempts. ::)

As for questionable intelligence, you obviously do not know me very well.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: sam on December 13, 2006, 10:30:26 am
If you are highly intelligent, your avatar is doing a wonderful job of keeping that a secret. 
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: jackfan1™ on December 13, 2006, 10:32:06 am
Quote from: sam on December 13, 2006, 10:30:26 am
If you are highly intelligent, your avatar is doing a wonderful job of keeping that a secret. 


Shhhhhhhhhhhhh.
We have heard enough out of you, penguin guy.
Title: Re: Neutral Opinions on "The Play"
Post by: LakeRat on December 13, 2006, 10:34:55 am
Heber Springs fan...

He was in.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: transplant on December 13, 2006, 10:35:25 am
The penguin is the best avatar on the site.
Title: Re: Neutral Opinions on "The Play"
Post by: momof3 on December 13, 2006, 10:37:19 am
"I dislike Hembree more than anyone."  I seriously doubt that.  Personally, I happen to like transplant.  I'm from neither place and could care less one way or the other.  I've seen the video...I say it was a tough call, but one was made and we should ALL move on. 
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: jackfan1™ on December 13, 2006, 10:38:02 am
Quote from: transplant on December 13, 2006, 10:35:25 am
The penguin is the best avatar on the site.

I agree, it is funny. But that does not mean the person wearing it is.
As for mine, it goes back a long way, before most of these yahoos had even found FF.
I like it, it is behind a lot of jokes between the Vets of FF, so who cares who likes it?
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: transplant on December 13, 2006, 10:43:48 am
I didn't say yours was bad...just his makes me laugh.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: jackfan1™ on December 13, 2006, 10:45:20 am
Quote from: transplant on December 13, 2006, 10:43:48 am
I didn't say yours was bad...just his makes me laugh.

I agree. There are times I would like to be the penguin with the right hook.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: sam on December 13, 2006, 10:49:39 am
Quote from: jackfan1 on December 13, 2006, 10:32:06 am
Shhhhhhhhhhhhh.
We have heard enough out of you, penguin guy.

When's the parade by the way?

Going to a runner-up parade is right behind going to Fenway on my life accomplishment list. 


Quote from: jackfan1 on December 13, 2006, 08:54:33 am
And yet..................5 years later...........

If you are too smart for my sarcasm, why did you take the bait?
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: chickenhawk on December 13, 2006, 10:53:27 am
Quote from: SCRAPPER MOM#1 on December 11, 2006, 09:56:44 pm
Quote from: tainted gold on December 11, 2006, 09:52:17 pm
Quote from: SCRAPPER MOM#1 on December 11, 2006, 09:48:18 pm
Well I guess if we put the ktbs footage with this footage we may be able to see if he was able to levitate or if the knee was down? Just my thought on the whole thing. Not that it matters at this point with all the other post about the game. And I don't see air under him or him on the ground just my thoughts. That was the reason for my question knee down before or not.. Thanks


You like every other Nashville fan knows he was in. I can promise you this picture will be at NHS tomorrow morning.
I am a casual observer who was at the game.  I have no dog in this fight.  Scrapper Mom, this comment shows you, like every Nashville fan, is in total denial.  And it's a natural reaction to what's happened.  Nothing will be taken from Nashville.  The 2006 AAAA State Champion is and will always be, the Nashville Scrappers.  Nothing Warren fans say, nothing neutral fans say will ever change that.  The AAA will not change the game, they won't replay it, they probably won't even say anything to the officials that missed the call.  The facts as they are now will never change.  It is sad that such a great game had to end on this sour note.  Nashville fans, it won't hurt anything for you to admit that the officials missed that call.  There are plenty of pictures and video to prove that it was missed.  Admitting that isn't going to cause the AAA to take your state title away from you and give it to Warren.  What it will do is show absolute true sportsmanship by a mature group of people.  Warren has been slighted and they will have to live with this for the rest of their lives.  To all Scrapper fans, please show some compassion in your posts because if the shoe happened to be on the other foot, you would want some shown to you.



No I'm sorry to tell you that I don't know if he was or was not. I was watching the field not the big screen as it seems so many others were.
Title: Re: Neutral Opinions on "The Play"
Post by: nomorewhining on December 13, 2006, 10:56:07 am
I am a 5A West supporter......looks to me from video and pictures that he was in, but........we have the benefit of a still photograph and a rewind button.....the refs had neither ....a tough , quick call....the refs blew it, but they did not cheat.

The same exact thing happened this year in the Vilonia-Harrison game....2 pt. conversion in OT....film shows vilonia scored, refs said no, Vilonia out of the playoffs.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: jackfan1™ on December 13, 2006, 10:59:59 am
Quote from: sam on December 13, 2006, 10:49:39 am
Quote from: jackfan1 on December 13, 2006, 10:32:06 am
Shhhhhhhhhhhhh.
We have heard enough out of you, penguin guy.

When's the parade by the way?

Going to a runner-up parade is right behind going to Fenway on my life accomplishment list. 


Quote from: jackfan1 on December 13, 2006, 08:54:33 am
And yet..................5 years later...........

If you are too smart for my sarcasm, why did you take the bait?

I have no idea what parade you are talking about and it is irrelevant anyway.
I am sure your accomplishment list is this long _.
And as for your "bait", we know you are a worm. Stop proving it.

Now, shhhhhhhhh.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: sam on December 13, 2006, 11:06:32 am
Nice try, but answer the question this time.

You said you were very smart and I obviously should know that, so why did you take the bait?



Oh yeah,

Shhhhhhhhhhhh

(I guess I was supposed to put that there)
Title: Re: Did anyone hear about the controversial call in the second overtime?
Post by: momof3 on December 13, 2006, 11:08:06 am
I think this is my favorite thread right now.  You guys are hilarious!
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: nomorewhining on December 13, 2006, 11:08:13 am
Quote from: No Longer Sensitive on December 12, 2006, 11:13:21 am
I am a 7-4A supporter and I am proud that one of our teams has won the State Championship for the third consecutive year.  It was obvious that Nashville won every statistical category and should have scored several times when they didn't.  Overtime should never have been involved. 

That being said, the officials were wrong and Warren should should have been declared the champion. 

Not too long ago the AAA decided to impose a multiplier on private schools.  There was no research done.  The only justification offered was, "The private schools are winning too many championships."  EVERY advantage stated as a criteria for imposing the multiplier is enjoyed by multiple public schools and some of them enjoy ALL of them.  However, the AAA is controlled by representatives of schools, each of which has an agenda.  The vast majority of those represent public schools.  All of them are looking out for what is best for their individual school.  Eliminating good competition was what they considered best, so they voted for the multiplier. 

When private school supporters complained, they were told to stop whining.  "The vote was overwhelming!  It must be the right thing to do."  Would the Scrapper fans agree to award the championship trophy this year on the basis of a vote by all of the people who see the video?  No, because they would say that all of those people are just "haters."  Now you see how the private schools felt when we received the results of the AAA vote.

Should the Warren fans be told to stop whining when it is obvious that they are right?  Many are expressing that, however, why should the Jacks' fans not be able to point out an obvious injustice?

Maybe both sides can have a little better understanding of how we felt last year.
 


The multiplier is used because private schools are not required to have students and athletes come from their "district". If Pa, CAC, etc. would agree to only play people who lived within a couple of miles of their school, then the multiplier would be dropped.
Title: Re: Neutral Opinions on "The Play"
Post by: Old Lion on December 13, 2006, 11:08:25 am
I watched the highlights from the "Knee" thread. I don't think he made it. I'm from Hamburg, but trust me, I speak for myself & not for others, although most I have talked to said the same thing.
Title: Re: Neutral Opinions on "The Play"
Post by: [el_CaC] on December 13, 2006, 11:11:41 am
Ozark, but I live in Conway and attend UCA ;D

I support Ozark.

Thoughts on both teams: Don't really care for either of them. I rooted for Nashville at the end of this season because out of the four remaining teams... I found myself not really caring for any of them so I went with last years champions. Nashville has been a thorn in Ozarks side for a couple of years now; water logged field, ended my senior season. Warren... just don't care for them... another orange and black team from SE AR that holds my interest about as much as my History class(fall asleep in it every day)

My opinion on the pics and video: At first I thought he was in, but then changed my mind. From looking at pictures I have also changed my mind on different occasions. When looking at the video footage, he appears to be in, but the angle is always crappy. I mean its the same angle as the ref that calls the play and we have a couple of players in the way(probably like the ref) during a small instance. I mean if you go with the video, then you are putting yourself in the refs shoes, so could you make the call at that moment?

By looking at the pictures, I have found one on maumellesports.com that gives me the impression that he was down. In the picture you could argue that the kids knees were down, but because of the heavy shadow you can't really tell. So with this picture you can also flip flop your opinion. The ball is also clearly not in the running backs hand at the moment. I mean his finger tips might be touching the ball, but he does not have control.

So what does this mean? The call could have went either way. I don't know how some of you people could say that it is a clear cut decision either way. That is just absurd. I have had time to sit here and think about it and I still do not have a sold answer as to what I think about the call, and the ref only had a couple of seconds. I mean if he would have stood there and thought about it, he may have made a different call, but there still would be this controversy. His delay would cause an uproar... this point less bickering would have continued. It is not the refs fault. The play was close, it was a tough one to make under that circumstance, and he made his call; acknowledge it, even if you don't agree with it.

I am not going to say he was down or that it was good. I am going to go with the outcome though, because that is whats going to stand. Nashville wins, it happens. The call was made by the person that saw the play, regardless of if he was the one that should have made the call. If there was clear cut proof, not something as close as this situation, I might have took a side. I mean come on, this is not the first time this has happened. Calls are always blown, it will happen as long as we have people doing the officiating. So please, the season is over... move on.
Title: Re: Neutral Opinions on "The Play"
Post by: sam on December 13, 2006, 11:12:05 am
I'm from Booneville.

He was in.

Happens all the time.

Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: jackfan1™ on December 13, 2006, 11:13:04 am
Quote from: sam on December 13, 2006, 11:06:32 am
Nice try, but answer the question this time.

You said you were very smart and I obviously should know that, so why did you take the bait?



Oh yeah,

Shhhhhhhhhhhh

(I guess I was supposed to put that there)

Someone hand me a brick...... ::)

You see, I don't consider your constantly bringing up a five year old game as "bait".
I call it being a bigger cry baby than the folks you are harassing.
I baited YOU by showing how silly you look when you tell Warren to get over it but you can't stop crying in your corn flakes.
So, you see? You actually took MY BAIT.
Was that in terms you could comprehend?
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: sam on December 13, 2006, 11:14:47 am
Wow.

Sorry, but no one believes that. 
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: jackfan1™ on December 13, 2006, 11:17:03 am
Quote from: sam on December 13, 2006, 11:14:47 am
Wow.

Sorry, but no one believes that. 

Whatever..........
I am sure to lose some sleep over that. ::)
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: sam on December 13, 2006, 11:17:43 am
shhhhhhhhh
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: jackfan1™ on December 13, 2006, 11:18:26 am
Quote from: sam on December 13, 2006, 11:17:43 am
shhhhhhhhh

Aha, he is FINALLY getting the message!
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: sam on December 13, 2006, 11:20:03 am
Quote from: jackfan1 on December 13, 2006, 11:18:26 am
Quote from: sam on December 13, 2006, 11:17:43 am
shhhhhhhhh

Aha, he is FINALLY getting the message!

Groundbreaking.



Next. 
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: jackfan1™ on December 13, 2006, 11:22:44 am
Quote from: sam on December 13, 2006, 11:20:03 am
Quote from: jackfan1 on December 13, 2006, 11:18:26 am
Quote from: sam on December 13, 2006, 11:17:43 am
shhhhhhhhh

Aha, he is FINALLY getting the message!

Groundbreaking.



Next. 

::) *yawwwn* ::)
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: sam on December 13, 2006, 11:24:26 am
Last word.
Title: Re: Neutral Opinions on "The Play"
Post by: HA_Fan on December 13, 2006, 11:24:47 am
Quote from: transplant on December 13, 2006, 11:20:28 am
In what way have I pushed at all,  I have made the argument that there are no neutral posters on fearless.  That is upsetting?

You've made multiple posts on a thread, when the topic only asks for a yea or nea from a group of people that you are not a part of.

I like you.  I've enjoyed our discussions in the past.  This just isn't the thread for it.

If you want to start a thread about the lack of neutrality or comment on the play in the other threads, go right ahead.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: jackfan1™ on December 13, 2006, 11:25:35 am
Quote from: sam on December 13, 2006, 11:24:26 am
Last word.

You are so tedious.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: sam on December 13, 2006, 11:27:28 am
How did you know I have man boobs?
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: jackfan1™ on December 13, 2006, 11:28:51 am
Quote from: sam on December 13, 2006, 11:27:28 am
How did you know I have man boobs?

Try this:

http://www.how-to-get-rid-of-man-boobs.com/
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: sam on December 13, 2006, 11:32:33 am
thanks
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: sam on December 13, 2006, 11:36:38 am
You mean you can't see that? 

There's clearly a nickel under his knee. 

You couldn't slide a Dierks phone book under his knee if you ask me.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: [el_CaC] on December 13, 2006, 11:40:01 am
I decided on this decision a while back, and my final decision was that since it still a toss up and so many people can't decide on what the call truely is that we should decide to not make a conclusive decision upon the subject and just let the ref's decision stand.

Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Bleachermom on December 13, 2006, 11:40:18 am

Quote from: nomorewhining on December 13, 2006, 11:08:13 am
The multiplier is used because private schools are not required to have students and athletes come from their "district". If Pa, CAC, etc. would agree to only play people who lived within a couple of miles of their school, then the multiplier would be dropped.

"couple of miles"?

1) Name even one 4A or 5A school where all students live  two miles or less from the building. 
2) Why do you not apply the same standard to public schools? Numerous public schools have students who attend who do not reside within their district lines. Happens all the time.
3) No one has ever shown evidence that more than a handful of private school students drive long distances to attend the school.

This argument is absolutely moot. There are differences, but this isn't one of them. By the bragging of the spokesman for the increased multiplier and the admission of the AAA Executive Director in court testimony, the increased multiplier was passed because, "Private schools win too many championships". The executive director said something on the order of "there was no research or investigation into the appropriateness of the increased multiplier (not exact words, but approximate)".
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Implant Guy on December 13, 2006, 11:40:27 am
Is that a Mickey Mouse tattoo also?
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: sam on December 13, 2006, 11:41:08 am
I decide to agree with your decision to agree with the refs decision.

It was his call by the way.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: sam on December 13, 2006, 11:43:59 am
Sorry, but homeless people are siding with the referee.

I went to little rock and showed 100 homeless bums the video and the results were.......

68 said he was down

36 said he was in

23 just looked at me

14 just puked and layed in it
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Sensitive on December 13, 2006, 11:44:53 am
Quote from: nomorewhining on December 13, 2006, 11:08:13 am
The multiplier is used because private schools are not required to have students and athletes come from their "district". If Pa, CAC, etc. would agree to only play people who lived within a couple of miles of their school, then the multiplier would be dropped.

If you truly believe that, then I accept your opinion even though it is far from reality.  There are student athletes all across the state who do not attend the school where they are zoned. 

Attendance zones were never an issue for the first thirty years of CAC's existence.  Then they hired Coach Perry.  Then they started winning.  Even though it was with the same kids that were attending CAC since elementary school, it suddenly became an issue. 

For the umpteenth time, YES private schools have an advantage over some public schools.  However, so do MANY public schools.  Why are only the private ones punished? 

At this point, some will say "recruiting."  To the surprise of many, I will agree with you that there is some illegal recruiting done by private schools.  I am aware of one case where it was reported.  Nothing was done by the AAA.  I am also aware of multiple cases where recruiting occurred in public schools.  Why is their enrollment not multiplied? 

There are some legitimate concerns regarding fairness in Arkansas high school sports.  If they were addressed by the AAA we might not be having this discussion.
 
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Implant Guy on December 13, 2006, 11:46:31 am
Man, this must be big news.  It was just on the news out here in Dallas.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: sam on December 13, 2006, 11:47:05 am
The multiplier should not have been instated.

Graham's knee was clearly down when he voted. 
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: athletic supporter on December 13, 2006, 11:48:15 am
Quote from: No Longer Sensitive on December 13, 2006, 11:44:53 am
Quote from: nomorewhining on December 13, 2006, 11:08:13 am
The multiplier is used because private schools are not required to have students and athletes come from their "district". If Pa, CAC, etc. would agree to only play people who lived within a couple of miles of their school, then the multiplier would be dropped.

If you truly believe that, then I accept your opinion even though it is far from reality.  There are student athletes all across the state who do not attend the school where they are zoned. 

Attendance zones were never an issue for the first thirty years of CAC's existence.  Then they hired Coach Perry.  Then they started winning.  Even though it was with the same kids that were attending CAC since elementary school, it suddenly became an issue. 

For the umpteenth time, YES private schools have an advantage over some public schools.  However, so do MANY public schools.  Why are only the private ones punished? 

At this point, some will say "recruiting."  To the surprise of many, I will agree with you that there is some illegal recruiting done by private schools.  I am aware of one case where it was reported.  Nothing was done by the AAA.  I am also aware of multiple cases where recruiting occurred in public schools.  Why is their enrollment not multiplied? 

There are some legitimate concerns regarding fairness in Arkansas high school sports.  If they were addressed by the AAA we might not be having this discussion.
 


From a public school parent and graduate,
AMEN!
Title: Re: Neutral Opinions on "The Play"
Post by: Sensitive on December 13, 2006, 11:49:40 am
Quote from: transplant on December 13, 2006, 09:55:56 am
All feel affected, look how NLS and bleachermom turned it into multiplier discussion.

None are "neutral" to try to claim it is absurd....Rattler a nieghbor looking out for his friends ....not neutral.

I am not neutral on either the outcome of the championship game or the multiplier. 

I was for Nashville.  They are in our conference. 

I think the kid scored. 

What I think about that has nothing to do with the reality that Nashville won the game any more than facts had to do with the passing of the increased multiplier.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: sam on December 13, 2006, 11:55:43 am
I know one thing,

That was the toughest $100 that officiating crew ever earned. 
Title: Re: Neutral Opinions on "The Play"
Post by: outlaw39 on December 13, 2006, 12:09:26 pm
Yes I'm from Dierks. No I'm NOT a Nashville fan. I've watched probably 6-7 different clips. I'm not going to say he was in or not, don't really care. What I am going to say is that I haven't seen anything that would prove either.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: owlshouse#83 on December 13, 2006, 12:10:09 pm
Good game Warren you guys won the game clearly. He broke the plain. Thats all it takes to score.
Title: Re: Neutral Opinions on "The Play"
Post by: sam on December 13, 2006, 12:15:02 pm
I have nothing against Warren at all.

I just hate it when people think they're special when something that has happened to all of us happens to them. 
Title: Re: Neutral Opinions on "The Play"
Post by: C_A_Morris on December 13, 2006, 12:20:57 pm
From Magnolia, to UCA, and (eventually) back to Magnolia.  I think the call was blown, and he was in.

I have no interest in the outcome of the game.  The nearest connection I see to this game is the fact that Magnolia plays Hope, and Hope plays Nashville.

What interests me the most is the fact that I do video editing and photography for a living.  I want to see the pictures, look and the video, and see if I can enhance them to the point that something can actually be determined.  As far as the outcome of the game---I could care less.  I just see it as a personal challenge to test my skills.

However, this being finals week...I doubt much will get done until tomorrow afternoon at the earliest.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Romeo on December 13, 2006, 01:00:02 pm
Quote from: sam on December 13, 2006, 11:43:59 am
Sorry, but homeless people are siding with the referee.

I went to little rock and showed 100 homeless bums the video and the results were.......

68 said he was down

36 said he was in

23 just looked at me

14 just puked and layed in it

Very amuzing...
Title: Re: Neutral Opinions on "The Play"
Post by: The_Preacher on December 13, 2006, 01:05:38 pm
 I'm sure if you look over the threads  everything you need will be given to you, and  maybe then this can slow down
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: Pigsooie09 on December 13, 2006, 01:08:05 pm
Quote from: BadDogGHSDogPound on December 11, 2006, 09:36:00 pm
That is without a doubt evidence the 2-point was good..you can clearly see ground below him as he's layed out and the ball is across the goal line.

(http://www.uhusnest.de/blog/media/o-rly.jpg)
Title: Re: Neutral Opinions on "The Play"
Post by: rebelpride on December 13, 2006, 01:09:29 pm
he was in...
Title: Re: Neutral Opinions on "The Play"
Post by: sam on December 13, 2006, 01:10:21 pm
Preach, you really are the man.

You're one of the few Warren posters left on here left with any dignity. 

Your self control is amazing.

You may be the only person on here who has taken this like a man.  You handled it the right way and you said, (without really saying it) I hope we meet up with Nashville next year because we were loaded with juniors and we won't call the dogs off. 

The bad thing is, much of the time on here, common sense is overlooked.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: [el_CaC] on December 13, 2006, 01:12:30 pm
Quote from: mudturtle on December 13, 2006, 09:30:13 am
Quote from: DQ's Comin'. on December 13, 2006, 08:57:39 am
Lets think logically here shall we... If the guy kept his knees from touching the ground, obviously he can't levitate, so that means his elbow had to have hit the ground, keeping his knees from hitting.

I saw a guy dunk a basketball last night.  He wasn't touching the ground with his elbow, his foot, or his knee.  It is called a JUMP (or a dive).  It ends when you hit the ground, but not before.

You just compared someone who is dunking a basketball( vertical jump) to someone diving for the endzone(horizontal leap). Nice comparison... very irrelevant. As close as the kid is to the ground, and with his knees lowered(but covered in his shadow) its hard to tell whether they were touching or not.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: sam on December 13, 2006, 01:15:33 pm
I used to be able to dunk with my elbow on the ground.  That's not that big of a deal.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: transplantjr on December 13, 2006, 01:16:00 pm
HA! thats a good picture! lol..let's all forget this and move on!
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: sam on December 13, 2006, 01:17:53 pm
I meant to say I used to be able to dunk from the elbow. 
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: [el_CaC] on December 13, 2006, 01:21:36 pm
Quote from: sam on December 13, 2006, 01:17:53 pm
I meant to say I used to be able to dunk from the elbow. 

Dunking with your elbow is far more impressive.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: jackfan1™ on December 13, 2006, 01:29:18 pm
Quote from: sam on December 13, 2006, 11:43:59 am
Sorry, but homeless people are siding with the referee.

I went to little rock and showed 100 homeless bums the video and the results were.......

68 said he was down

36 said he was in

23 just looked at me

14 just puked and layed in it

141
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: sam on December 13, 2006, 01:32:03 pm
Amazing.  That's strike 2 by the way. 
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: stina_ar on December 13, 2006, 01:36:52 pm
Quote from: sam on December 13, 2006, 01:32:03 pm
Amazing.  That's strike 2 by the way. 

No no...was it amazing or amusing?
Either way, its wrong.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: jackfan1™ on December 13, 2006, 01:40:31 pm
Quote from: sam on December 13, 2006, 01:32:03 pm
Amazing.  That's strike 2 by the way. 

Are you sure? Your math skills are suspect.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: sam on December 13, 2006, 01:41:50 pm
Your ability to recognize sarcasm is suspect.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: jackfan1™ on December 13, 2006, 01:43:55 pm
Quote from: sam on December 13, 2006, 01:41:50 pm
Your ability to recognize sarcasm is suspect.

I've yet to see anything that rates.
I am the Queen of Sarcasm.
Title: Re: Neutral Opinions on "The Play"
Post by: The critic on December 13, 2006, 01:45:23 pm
From Hot Springs.

He was in. 
Title: Re: Neutral Opinions on "The Play"
Post by: Uncle Ivan on December 13, 2006, 01:47:29 pm
From Wynne.

I don't frigging know.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: The_Preacher on December 13, 2006, 01:50:30 pm
 just finished watching  miracle on 42nd street, they had a court hearing and the final decision was based on a branch of the federal Goverment  believing in santa clause so the Warren people also have the backing to a branch of  the government saying it was good so  where is the judge when you need him to made a decision,  Ha ha thought jackfan would enjoy this
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: sam on December 13, 2006, 01:52:19 pm
You think you're the queen of everything apparently.

All you've proven to be so far is the queen of start>programs>accessories>calculator
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: sam on December 13, 2006, 01:53:23 pm
Quote from: jackfan1 on December 13, 2006, 01:43:55 pm
I've yet to see anything that rates.

Says the woman with one of my jokes in her signature. 
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: stina_ar on December 13, 2006, 01:58:03 pm
Its so hard to hold back...
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: jackfan1™ on December 13, 2006, 01:58:37 pm
Quote from: sam on December 13, 2006, 01:52:19 pm
You think you're the queen of everything apparently.

All you've proven to be so far is the queen of start>programs>accessories>calculator

I AM the Queen. See my avatar?

Calculators are for babies. But I am happy you know where to find yours.

My signature is acknowledgement that you are out of the closet.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: The_Preacher on December 13, 2006, 02:00:57 pm
 Sam trust me on this one  with  Jackfan she  will always  have the upper hand I know her well  you might rechoose a different battle. this one you can't win   I have warned you she has tricks that would fool Vegas tables, get out while you have  you pride  Ha ha
 
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: sam on December 13, 2006, 02:00:59 pm
You don't come out of the closet as having man boobs.

Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: jackfan1™ on December 13, 2006, 02:01:36 pm
Quote from: The_Preacher on December 13, 2006, 02:00:57 pm
Sam trust me on this one  with  Jackfan she  will always  have the upper hand I know her well  you might rechoose a different battle. this one you can't win   I have warned you she has tricks that would fool Vegas tables, get out while you have  you pride  Ha ha
 

;D
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: jackfan1™ on December 13, 2006, 02:02:09 pm
Quote from: sam on December 13, 2006, 02:00:59 pm
You don't come out of the closet as having man boobs.



Did your boyfriend tell you that?
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: stina_ar on December 13, 2006, 02:03:25 pm
His boyfriend told me that...
I mean....
wait..
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: sam on December 13, 2006, 02:04:45 pm
Quote from: The_Preacher on December 13, 2006, 02:00:57 pm
Sam trust me on this one  with  Jackfan she  will always  have the upper hand I know her well  you might rechoose a different battle. this one you can't win   I have warned you she has tricks that would fool Vegas tables, get out while you have  you pride  Ha ha
 

She's one of those who always thinks she wins.  Those people are undefeatable.  If you've ever seen kung pow, she's kinda like the guy they trained wrong on purpose to think losing was winning. 

Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: sam on December 13, 2006, 02:05:42 pm
Quote from: jackfan1 on December 13, 2006, 02:02:09 pm
Did your boyfriend tell you that?

Cheesy
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: The_Preacher on December 13, 2006, 02:07:33 pm
the answer is no she sure don't all woman  and one with contacts in the  medical field that can help you find the true you  just kidding Sam
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: jackfan1™ on December 13, 2006, 02:08:20 pm
Quote from: sam on December 13, 2006, 02:04:45 pm
Quote from: The_Preacher on December 13, 2006, 02:00:57 pm
Sam trust me on this one  with  Jackfan she  will always  have the upper hand I know her well  you might rechoose a different battle. this one you can't win   I have warned you she has tricks that would fool Vegas tables, get out while you have  you pride  Ha ha
 

She's one of those who always thinks she wins.  Those people are undefeatable.  If you've ever seen kung pow, she's kinda like the guy they trained wrong on purpose to think losing was winning. 



(Someone needs to clue this child in. Preacher, thanks for trying but he obviously didn't hear you.)

I think I saw some Kung Pow on the Chinese buffet last week.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: stina_ar on December 13, 2006, 02:09:03 pm
 ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

someone tell me what's going on
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: jackfan1™ on December 13, 2006, 02:10:00 pm
Quote from: fobcat_ban on December 13, 2006, 02:09:03 pm
??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

someone tell me what's going on

Entertaining the children who didn't get to go out for recess.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: stina_ar on December 13, 2006, 02:10:46 pm
Quote from: jackfan1 on December 13, 2006, 02:10:00 pm
Quote from: fobcat_ban on December 13, 2006, 02:09:03 pm
??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

someone tell me what's going on

Entertaining the children who didn't get to go out for recess.

No, that's not what I was referring to, but thanks.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: sam on December 13, 2006, 02:12:52 pm
She thinks everyone cares about what she's doing. 
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: The_Preacher on December 13, 2006, 02:13:06 pm
memories are what, works best to help some figure out what has taken place. when they are hung on the edge you might should get one of those long armed jackets ready  I see one being needed  in this  case
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: stina_ar on December 13, 2006, 02:14:12 pm
EXACTLY
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: jackfan1™ on December 13, 2006, 02:14:41 pm
Quote from: sam on December 13, 2006, 02:12:52 pm
She thinks everyone cares about what she's doing. 

No, only the ones who keep replying.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: sam on December 13, 2006, 02:16:44 pm
Go back to griping about the call.

Did you get the news recorded last night so you can have your virtual championship archived for your grandchildren?

Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: jackfan1™ on December 13, 2006, 02:17:33 pm
Quote from: sam on December 13, 2006, 02:16:44 pm
Go back to griping about the call.

Did you get the news recorded last night so you can have your virtual championship archived for your grandchildren?



Game, set, match.

Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: sam on December 13, 2006, 02:18:14 pm
Thanks,
I agree.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: jackfan1™ on December 13, 2006, 02:19:32 pm
Quote from: sam on December 13, 2006, 02:16:44 pm
Go back to griping about the call.





You blinked first.
Title: Re: Neutral Opinions on "The Play"
Post by: phdefense on December 13, 2006, 02:20:05 pm
Stuttgart

He was in
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: The_Preacher on December 13, 2006, 02:20:36 pm
boy you have  no clue,
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: stina_ar on December 13, 2006, 02:21:34 pm
Oh, sam. There's your quote of the year.
Title: Re: Neutral Opinions on "The Play"
Post by: chilly gilly on December 13, 2006, 02:23:04 pm
he was in there like swimwear! ;D
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: sam on December 13, 2006, 02:25:00 pm
I forgot it's about 10-1 warren to everyone else on here right now.

They're on a crusade right now to bring the title home. 
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: jackfan1™ on December 13, 2006, 02:26:08 pm
Quote from: sam on December 13, 2006, 02:25:00 pm
I forgot it's about 10-1 warren to everyone else on here right now.



I've never needed back-ups.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: sam on December 13, 2006, 02:30:50 pm
I've got a plan.

I'm gonna open a FF account.  Put up a cheesy avatar.  Argue with people and then stop the argument in the middle and say I won and that I'm important and undefeated in internet arguments.  Plus, I'm gonna act like everyone on here knows not to mess with me when in reality no one even knows me. 

And make that my claim to fame.  Does anyone have a copyright on that?

PS- You thought you won that argument, and you thought a Warren 20 Nashville 21 score meant Warren won.........................coincidence, I think not.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: sam on December 13, 2006, 02:31:56 pm
I almost forgot.

shhhhhhh

game set match

insert other cheesy line that shows you argue too much here
Title: Re: Neutral Opinions on "The Play"
Post by: sam on December 13, 2006, 02:34:55 pm
Like swimwear in December................I agree. 
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: jackfan1™ on December 13, 2006, 02:37:01 pm
Quote from: sam on December 13, 2006, 02:30:50 pm
I've got a plan.

I'm gonna open a FF account.  Put up a cheesy avatar.  Argue with people and then stop the argument in the middle and say I won and that I'm important and undefeated in internet arguments.  Plus, I'm gonna act like everyone on here knows not to mess with me when in reality no one even knows me. 

And make that my claim to fame.  Does anyone have a copyright on that?

PS- You thought you won that argument, and you thought a Warren 20 Nashville 21 score meant Warren won.........................coincidence, I think not.

Good luck with that. We will miss you. If you can't take the heat..........


There are in fact  LOTS of folks on here who actually know me in person. Ask any of the Warren posters, Uncle Ivan, RHS, et al.
I didn't just come here last week. I was on the original FF while you were still playing touch football on the playground.

Sorry I hurt your feelings. :'(

IT'S CALLED SARCASM! ::)
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: stina_ar on December 13, 2006, 02:38:44 pm
wow, jackfan. You must be REALLY old if you were here while he was on the playground...
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: sam on December 13, 2006, 02:39:17 pm
Yeah, I was in on the original one too. 

Once again, like in the bad call, you think you are special. 
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: jackfan1™ on December 13, 2006, 02:40:53 pm
Quote from: fobcat_ban on December 13, 2006, 02:38:44 pm
wow, jackfan. You must be REALLY old if you were here while he was on the playground...

Yeah, and old enough to know when to stop. Ok?
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: jackfan1™ on December 13, 2006, 02:42:23 pm
Quote from: sam on December 13, 2006, 02:39:17 pm
Yeah, I was in on the original one too. 

Once again, like in the bad call, you think you are special. 

If you were around then, you must not have been paying any attention.
And, yeah, I am special......just ask me.

*sarcasm* (in case you can't recognize it either) ::)
Title: Re: Neutral Opinions on "The Play"
Post by: GoldenLion30 on December 13, 2006, 02:42:57 pm
Jacksonville


He scored
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: sam on December 13, 2006, 02:47:36 pm
I'm done. Your cheesy.  I can't think of another way to describe you.  You have like old sitcom humor.  You probably still quote Austin Powers and Home Improvement. 

Bye.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: jackfan1™ on December 13, 2006, 02:50:03 pm
Quote from: sam on December 13, 2006, 02:47:36 pm
I'm done. Your cheesy.  I can't think of another way to describe you.  You have like old sitcom humor.  You probably still quote Austin Powers and Home Improvement. 

Bye.

Don't let the door hit ya'.

(p.s. I never liked Austin Powers....he was too "cheesy".) ::)
Title: Re: I am calling out Scrapper Fans/Players/Coaches/Admin and those Blind Refs
Post by: jacks07 on December 13, 2006, 03:51:20 pm
AMEN!! Great Post! Go Lumberjacks!
Title: Re: I am calling out Scrapper Fans/Players/Coaches/Admin and those Blind Refs
Post by: [el_CaC] on December 13, 2006, 03:58:56 pm
Quote from: sam on December 12, 2006, 02:19:25 pm
3. I think Greenwood won on a tainted call.  It was a 1 point game and I promise I could find a call that could have gone PA's way in there somewhere. 

RD, turn over your title.

And to think, I used to think he knew a little about the game.  

Anybody with even a rat turd for a brain knows that this sort of thing happens all the time. 

There was also their tainted title against Wynne.
Title: Re: Neutral Opinions on "The Play"
Post by: Radiotalker on December 13, 2006, 04:16:20 pm
Osceola.....no doubt he was in. Everyone knows he was in except 1 person.
Title: Re: Neutral Opinions on "The Play"
Post by: [el_CaC] on December 13, 2006, 04:22:41 pm
Quote from: Radiotalker on December 13, 2006, 04:16:20 pm
Osceola.....no doubt he was in. Everyone knows he was in except 1 person.

Keep thinking that.
Title: Re: Neutral Opinions on "The Play"
Post by: Scrapper Slapper on December 13, 2006, 04:23:24 pm
Quote from: Radiotalker on December 13, 2006, 04:16:20 pm
Osceola.....no doubt he was in. Everyone knows he was in except 1 person.
Actually there were at least 5.
Title: Re: I am calling out Scrapper Fans/Players/Coaches/Admin and those Blind Refs
Post by: stina_ar on December 13, 2006, 04:24:04 pm
Please don't pm me with crap like this. Its a waste of my time to even read it.

I couldn't care less about Nashville or Warren.


Quote from: jacks07 on December 13, 2006, 04:12:49 pm
No your are makin a fool of your self believing that nashville won!
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: jacks07 on December 13, 2006, 04:25:04 pm
Quote from: Fred Garvin M.P. on December 11, 2006, 04:26:49 pm
Quote from: jacks07 on December 11, 2006, 04:19:12 pm
To you i say that if you get a good video then you can clearly see that J's knee did not touch the ground until after he had scored. And if it just fell silent because everyone was watchin the jumbotron THEN why did nashville's players start walking off the FIELD!!!  Tell me that one!!

look at your video again and you will see Nashville's coaches herding all of our players back to the sidelines.  If you could miss that, I can only wonder what else you missed?
Exactly because they KNOW they LOST!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Neutral Opinions on "The Play"
Post by: john3459 on December 13, 2006, 04:25:11 pm
AOA official and proud of it. The 2 point conversion was good and Nashville are and always will be the 4A State Camps 2006.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: [el_CaC] on December 13, 2006, 04:26:21 pm
Quote from: jacks07 on December 13, 2006, 04:25:04 pm
Quote from: Fred Garvin M.P. on December 11, 2006, 04:26:49 pm
Quote from: jacks07 on December 11, 2006, 04:19:12 pm
To you i say that if you get a good video then you can clearly see that J's knee did not touch the ground until after he had scored. And if it just fell silent because everyone was watchin the jumbotron THEN why did nashville's players start walking off the FIELD!!!  Tell me that one!!

look at your video again and you will see Nashville's coaches herding all of our players back to the sidelines.  If you could miss that, I can only wonder what else you missed?
Exactly because they KNOW they LOST!!!!!!!!!!!!

I believe they won, by 1 point to be exact.
Title: Re: I am calling out Scrapper Fans/Players/Coaches/Admin and those Blind Refs
Post by: jacks07 on December 13, 2006, 04:29:02 pm
Quote from: fobcat_ban on December 13, 2006, 04:24:04 pm
Please don't pm me with crap like this. Its a waste of my time to even read it.

I couldn't care less about Nashville or Warren.


Quote from: jacks07 on December 13, 2006, 04:12:49 pm
No your are makin a fool of your self believing that nashville won!
Then why the heck are u on here talkin about them then? DUHHH!
Title: Re: Neutral Opinions on "The Play"
Post by: Radiotalker on December 13, 2006, 04:30:42 pm
Quote from: [el_Decider] on December 13, 2006, 04:22:41 pm
Quote from: Radiotalker on December 13, 2006, 04:16:20 pm
Osceola.....no doubt he was in. Everyone knows he was in except 1 person.

Keep thinking that.

I will always think that and the funny part is that you know I'm right deep down, but that's ok

USA beat Russia in 72 Olympics - Basketball
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Scrapper Slapper on December 13, 2006, 04:30:46 pm
Quote from: sam on December 13, 2006, 11:47:05 am
The multiplier should not have been instated.

Graham's knee was clearly down when he voted. 

You are WRONG!  He had clearly raised his hand above his head before his knee touched.
Title: Re: I am calling out Scrapper Fans/Players/Coaches/Admin and those Blind Refs
Post by: stina_ar on December 13, 2006, 04:33:38 pm
Why? Because you are making fools of yourselves, whining about a game that you lost.

Hey, if you would've put this game away in regulation, there never would've been a call at the end of double overtime.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: [el_CaC] on December 13, 2006, 04:38:18 pm
Quote from: Moron Detector on December 13, 2006, 04:30:46 pm
Quote from: sam on December 13, 2006, 11:47:05 am
The multiplier should not have been instated.

Graham's knee was clearly down when he voted. 

You are WRONG!  He had clearly raised his hand above his head before his knee touched.

Apparently now he was rolling over some random player, or I maybe he was levitating.... wait no I think someone said something about him dunking the football with his elbow in order to take the state of Oklahoma.
Title: Re: I am calling out Scrapper Fans/Players/Coaches/Admin and those Blind Refs
Post by: FootballGuy43 on December 13, 2006, 04:51:07 pm
Quote from: fobcat_ban on December 13, 2006, 04:33:38 pm
Why? Because you are making fools of yourselves, whining about a game that you lost.

Hey, if you would've put this game away in regulation, there never would've been a call at the end of double overtime.

I will agree with her on that one...
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: jacks07 on December 13, 2006, 04:54:04 pm
Quote from: fobcat_ban on December 11, 2006, 05:15:13 pm
WHO CARES WHO DID WHAT?
NASHVILLE = 2006 STATE CHAMPS

WARREN POSTERS ON THIS BOARD = WHINY, SORE LOSERS


Congrats to both teams.

In 5 years, no one will care about this, except those fans that each town has that never leave and live on past glories.

Congrats, seniors of '07!
fobcat_ban=moron!!
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Scrapper Slapper on December 13, 2006, 04:57:53 pm
Quote from: jacks07 on December 13, 2006, 04:54:04 pm
Quote from: fobcat_ban on December 11, 2006, 05:15:13 pm
WHO CARES WHO DID WHAT?
NASHVILLE = 2006 STATE CHAMPS

WARREN POSTERS ON THIS BOARD = WHINY, SORE LOSERS


Congrats to both teams.

In 5 years, no one will care about this, except those fans that each town has that never leave and live on past glories.

Congrats, seniors of '07!
fobcat_ban=moron!!
I am the authority on that particular subject.  I say no (and the video replay will not be used to overturn the call, so deal with it).
Title: Re: I am calling out Scrapper Fans/Players/Coaches/Admin and those Blind Refs
Post by: OUTLAWnuttmustgo on December 13, 2006, 05:03:43 pm
OMG the whole world has caught a stupid virus
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: stina_ar on December 13, 2006, 05:04:46 pm
Quote from: jacks07 on December 13, 2006, 04:54:04 pm
  fobcat_ban=moron!!

That's cute.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: FootballGuy43 on December 13, 2006, 05:08:58 pm
Quote from: fobcat_ban on December 13, 2006, 05:04:46 pm
Quote from: jacks07 on December 13, 2006, 04:54:04 pm
  fobcat_ban=goddess!!

That's right.

We all know...no need to repeat the obvious;)
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: FootballGuy43 on December 13, 2006, 05:14:12 pm
The AAA will keep their noses out of this one and discard it in the lost column...
Title: Re: Neutral Opinions on "The Play"
Post by: HA_Fan on December 13, 2006, 05:28:07 pm
I'll try to keep a running tally on the original post after each page is complete.
Title: Re: Neutral Opinions on "The Play"
Post by: softballash25 on December 13, 2006, 05:35:24 pm
Ashdown

I would have to say he was down a split second before the ball crossed.
Really close though.
Title: Re: Neutral Opinions on "The Play"
Post by: Always Friday on December 13, 2006, 05:38:21 pm
Outskirts of Nashville...wasn't in!  ;D

Go Scraps  ;)
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: [el_CaC] on December 13, 2006, 05:47:58 pm
Quote from: ljackfan100 on December 13, 2006, 05:44:56 pm
If things were the other way around NO ONE in Nashville would be congratulating Warren for winning.  You call can throw "whining" around easily because the error was in your favor. You are the poor sports for your cocky response to our indignation at getting SCREWED. ('scus us - were we supposed to like it?) It shows a huge lack of class on your part, which is sad as it disgraces your team.  They are great athletes and well-coached.  They played a heck of a game.  If Warren had to lose, I wish it had been a clear loss, rather than on a bad call.  You all knew that also when the replay show on the jumbotron. And we also know how it feels to be 2 year back-to-back state champs, by the way.  Everyone whose opinion matters know who the true 2006 Champs are. We have and will maintain integrity. 
And I've not heard much mention about the family relationship issue between the back judge and a VIP in Nashville. OOPs.  We know it won't be changed, but the film showed on Channel 7 last night told the facts.  No knee touch prior to the ball crossing.  They replayed it 4 times in slow motion.  Nothin' but air there.

Making accusations that the back judge is in ties with someone with Nashville = loss of integrity, a disgrace, poor sports and whining.

So other than taking away most of your post credibility with the last few statements... it was almost a good post.
Title: Re: I am calling out Scrapper Fans/Players/Coaches/Admin and those Blind Refs
Post by: Doo-Dad on December 13, 2006, 06:09:40 pm
Quote from: phdefense on December 12, 2006, 02:19:44 pm
Quote from: fobcat_ban on December 12, 2006, 02:12:18 pm
Quote from: Vice President RD on December 11, 2006, 09:51:38 pm
How did you get up Sunday morning and look at yourself in the mirror? The rest of the state has seen it, they know, apparently the truth is blind to you, and you can't see past your orange colored glasses.

Head Coach Billy Dawson should do the right thing and give the trophy back to the AAA, how someone can even accept a tainted title is beyond me. For those that have Nashville Back 2 Back Champs in your signature, you should be ashamed, you're not the champions, you know it deep, deep, deep down in your heart.

To those Referees, turn your stripes in, and your whistles, you suck at life. Get another spare time job flipping burgers at McDonalds and asking "would you like more fries with that?". Because that is all you're qualified to do.


1) its a high school football game

2) its a lot easier to make calls from the stands. Why don't you join the officating crew?

With an avatar like that don't you think you should put more effort in to using correct spelling and grammar?

its= possessive
it's = it is
I can't believe you flag her for that error, and didn't say a thing about her spelling of officiating, or lack there of.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: ljackfan100 on December 13, 2006, 06:14:29 pm
Wow! This photo sais it all.  A shadow can't be cast unless there's space between the object and the ground and there's clearly a shadow under the ball carrier's legs/knees AND the ball's across the line.  No doubt. 
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: donkeys jawbone on December 13, 2006, 06:29:19 pm
that ain't a shadow under his leg. i'd be willing to bet a tainted state championship that's just rubber from the turf flying up from number 52's foot. ask the players. i'm sure they're still picking goodyear bits out of their ears.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Jack High on December 13, 2006, 06:43:10 pm
Quote from: Fred Garvin M.P. on December 12, 2006, 08:53:39 pm
His body bounced.

    you're delusional......
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: ljackfan100 on December 13, 2006, 06:48:14 pm
You can't complain about anything but the relationship comment, and I readily admit, it could be just a rumor. Sorry. On the other hand perhaps to claim credibility, you should aim better when you toss your little stones, rather than generlizing ("last few comments").  My last few comments were factual regarding the Ch. 7 video.  You may go to P.1 and click archaic's posting to click google and look at the photo which shows the ball carrier having placed the ball across the line and a SHADOW beneath his legs/knees. For a shadow to show there had to be space between the legs and the ground. Maybe a knee touched then was picked up?  Not only unlikely, but nearly impossible with him obviously putting everything he had into putting the ball over.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: [el_CaC] on December 13, 2006, 07:03:53 pm
Quote from: ljackfan100 on December 13, 2006, 06:48:14 pm
You can't complain about anything but the relationship comment, and I readily admit, it could be just a rumor. Sorry. On the other hand perhaps to claim credibility, you should aim better when you toss your little stones, rather than generlizing ("last few comments").  My last few comments were factual regarding the Ch. 7 video.  You may go to P.1 and click archaic's posting to click google and look at the photo which shows the ball carrier having placed the ball across the line and a SHADOW beneath his legs/knees. For a shadow to show there had to be space between the legs and the ground. Maybe a knee touched then was picked up?  Not only unlikely, but nearly impossible with him obviously putting everything he had into putting the ball over.

And the ref made the best call that he could have made without the time to sit there and think about his decision. He did not get to see the film in slow motion, nor does he get to see the pictures taken of the play before he made his call. If he would have stood there, and none of them made a call for a minute or two, there would still be this backlash. Now if you believe you could do better, go to the Arkansas Activities Association and learn how to become a football official. Nashville won, get over it, but making accusations that the back judge is affiliated with Nashville... that is absurd and asinine.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: FootballGuy43 on December 13, 2006, 07:46:04 pm
The ref had no allegiance other than to the AAA. He made a call and you cannot blame a loss just because you think he was in an alliance with another school...
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: FootballGuy43 on December 13, 2006, 08:01:44 pm
Quote from: jackfan1 on December 13, 2006, 11:28:51 am
Quote from: sam on December 13, 2006, 11:27:28 am
How did you know I have man boobs?

We didn't...oh by the way, that website is the stupidest thing invented...EVER.

Try this:

http://www.how-to-get-rid-of-man-boobs.com/
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: panther_pride on December 13, 2006, 08:09:55 pm
Quote from: donkeys jawbone on December 13, 2006, 06:29:19 pm
that ain't a shadow under his leg. i'd be willing to bet a tainted state championship that's just rubber from the turf flying up from number 52's foot. ask the players. i'm sure they're still picking goodyear bits out of their ears.
Either you're beeing sarcastic, or you've never played on turf... I'll assume the latter and go with no turf has that much rubber flying up no matter how new it is.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: FootballGuy43 on December 13, 2006, 08:17:13 pm
I appreciated the photo of the bird...that was classic.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: [el_CaC] on December 13, 2006, 08:59:22 pm
Quote from: ljackfan100 on December 13, 2006, 06:14:29 pm
Wow! This photo sais it all.  A shadow can't be cast unless there's space between the object and the ground and there's clearly a shadow under the ball carrier's legs/knees AND the ball's across the line.  No doubt. 

Are you kidding me. His knee is a small portion of his leg and could be touching and still have a shadow casted on it. You know the rest of you body would cast a shadow down if you were sprawled out diagonally?
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: The Grudge on December 13, 2006, 09:22:41 pm
I think it would be great, but thats just my opinion
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: panther_pride on December 13, 2006, 09:38:44 pm
NO.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Sarcasmrules on December 13, 2006, 09:45:07 pm
Quote from: sam on December 12, 2006, 12:30:55 pm
If you get the AAA to reverse the call it will be like trading one state championship for another because I have conclusive video evidence showing the fumble McKinney returned for a TD in the 01 game should have never happened.  Brad West's knee was down.  You will actually be trading the 01 state championship for the 06 one. 

By the way, nothing will ever be done and we accepted that.

You will too.

Congrats Nashville
Hey Sammy what was the score when that happened. I was thinking it was tied. Just wondering I couldn't remember. 39-39 maybe or 38-39.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: The Grudge on December 13, 2006, 09:49:35 pm
Quote from: pantherfan56 on December 13, 2006, 09:38:44 pm
NO.

ok,thats your, opinion, so why not?
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: ljackfan100 on December 13, 2006, 09:50:13 pm
Cute line, but you don't know that for a fact.  Nor do I know for a fact whether the info I recieved about a relationship perhaps having swayed anyone's decisions was accurate. As I said, it could be just a rumor.   Again, it would all feel different had the error not been in your favor.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: FootballGuy43 on December 13, 2006, 09:50:45 pm
It won't end because there is still some bitter feelings held by the Warren fans...
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: ljackfan100 on December 13, 2006, 10:05:11 pm
And what's absurd and asinine is Nashville acting like we're crazy for being upset over losing to a bad call. And not only Lumberjack fans are posting in agreement. Right, the official didn't get to watch repalys or see photos before he made the call, but that doesn't change the fact that it was an error.  A mistake.  Difference is it cost US, our players and coaches, our school, our community - not you.  If we were ever to be in your position, I hope our reaction would be more gracious and not so mean-spirited.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: [el_CaC] on December 13, 2006, 10:16:27 pm
Quote from: ljackfan100 on December 13, 2006, 10:05:11 pm
And what's absurd and asinine is Nashville acting like we're crazy for being upset over losing to a bad call. And not only Lumberjack fans are posting in agreement. Right, the official didn't get to watch repalys or see photos before he made the call, but that doesn't change the fact that it was an error.  A mistake.  Difference is it cost US, our players and coaches, our school, our community - not you.  If we were ever to be in your position, I hope our reaction would be more gracious and not so mean-spirited.

See you don't seem to get it. I am not from Nashville. I have never attended Nashville schools. Heck I don't even like Nashville because of past games against them. So why do I defend them? Because they are not whining about all of this. Warren is the not the first team in football to get screwed on a bad call. They are not the first team to get screwed in a state championship game on a bad call, just to make this a more specific remark. So, get... over... it.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: FootballGuy43 on December 13, 2006, 10:20:50 pm
I don't go to either school either. I live in NE Arkansas for crying out loud. I just go by what I seen at WMS and nothing else. I felt sorry for both teams. Warren for getting screwed and for Nashville getting booed receiving the trophy.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: FootballGuy43 on December 13, 2006, 10:21:32 pm
We shall have to await his answer tomorrow...
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Scrapper Slapper on December 13, 2006, 10:42:23 pm
Quote from: [el_Decider] on December 13, 2006, 04:38:18 pm
Apparently now he was rolling over some random player, or I maybe he was levitating.... wait no I think someone said something about him dunking the football with his elbow in order to take the state of Oklahoma.

Preacher?  Is that you, Preacher?
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: [el_CaC] on December 13, 2006, 10:51:09 pm
Quote from: Moron Detector on December 13, 2006, 10:42:23 pm
Quote from: [el_Decider] on December 13, 2006, 04:38:18 pm
Apparently now he was rolling over some random player, or I maybe he was levitating.... wait no I think someone said something about him dunking the football with his elbow in order to take the state of Oklahoma.

Preacher?  Is that you, Preacher?

I've never though about taking up the monastery.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: ljackfan100 on December 13, 2006, 11:16:45 pm
Some guys can't communicate w/out being a smart***. 
Question to anyone out there who will study the photo objectively;
does it look like the qb's legs are twisted at the hip to his left?  Notice his handwarmer around the waist position and the position of his shoulders. And to me it looks like the front of both thighs are toward the camers. What do you think?  If this is correct, his knees aren't in a likely position to have touched.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: ljackfan100 on December 13, 2006, 11:23:53 pm
El Decider, how could I get it? Until now you have not mentioned your affiliation or lack there of with Nashville.  You have, however been biased toward Nashville in your comments and if the shoe were on the Nashville foot, they'd be equally verbal in their disagreement.  Anyone would.  But thanks very much to you and BigBen7 for agreeing that Warren Got screwed out a state title.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: [el_CaC] on December 13, 2006, 11:32:16 pm
Quote from: ljackfan100 on December 13, 2006, 11:16:45 pm
Some guys can't communicate w/out being a smart***. 
Question to anyone out there who will study the photo objectively;
does it look like the qb's legs are twisted at the hip to his left?  Notice his handwarmer around the waist position and the position of his shoulders. And to me it looks like the front of both thighs are toward the camers. What do you think?  If this is correct, his knees aren't in a likely position to have touched.

Just because his upper torso is twisted that way, it does not mean that one of his legs is not clearly pointing towards the ground. If you look at the photo, his right leg is either less than an inch off the ground, or it is touching the ground and he is still reaching out for the endzone. How about you try looking at the picture objectively?
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: [el_CaC] on December 13, 2006, 11:34:28 pm
Quote from: ljackfan100 on December 13, 2006, 11:23:53 pm
El Decider, how could I get it? Until now you have not mentioned your affiliation or lack there of with Nashville.  You have, however been biased toward Nashville in your comments and if the shoe were on the Nashville foot, they'd be equally verbal in their disagreement.  Anyone would.  But thanks very much to you and BigBen7 for agreeing that Warren Got screwed out a state title.

Get over it. Warren isn't the first team. If it would have been Nashville, I would be on here telling them the same thing. Besides, the picture that I have been looking at... I think the kid might have been down. There is nothing clear cut about the proof, or the call itself. What is clear is that Nashville is the 2006 state champions of the AAAA. So deal with it and try again next year.
Title: Re: Neutral Opinions on "The Play"
Post by: The Grudge on December 13, 2006, 11:45:42 pm
Murfreesboro

I think he was down a split second also
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: OldScrap on December 13, 2006, 11:59:51 pm
<<And I've not heard much mention about the family relationship issue between the back judge and a VIP in Nashville. OOPs.>>

Isn't this breaking the rules of this board?

Even if it isn't it does show your true character and or lack of as has already been mentioned.

Now you need to prove this or apologize to everyone on this board.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: ljackfan100 on December 14, 2006, 12:11:55 am
As I said some guys can't communicate without being a smart***.    When I asked for an objective opinion, yours wasn't up for consideration , based on what I've read of your previous posts.  I had actually drawn no conclusion regarding the qb's leg/hip posture.  I just posed a question for discussion and there you go getting smart. 
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: ljackfan100 on December 14, 2006, 12:18:24 am
PLEAAASSE!  Have you not read previous post where I said "it could be just a rumor"? And I did apologize.  Good greif, if you get your feeling so hurt over that, how in the world would you react had it been your scrappers that got the contrivertial call against them? But we whine?
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: [el_CaC] on December 14, 2006, 12:25:26 am
Quote from: ljackfan100 on December 14, 2006, 12:11:55 am
As I said some guys can't communicate without being a smart***.    When I asked for an objective opinion, yours wasn't up for consideration , based on what I've read of your previous posts.  I had actually drawn no conclusion regarding the qb's leg/hip posture.  I just posed a question for discussion and there you go getting smart.   

Sorry, I will try to leave intelligence out of this argument next time.  ;)
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: ljackfan100 on December 14, 2006, 12:32:46 am
 For you to leave intellegence out won't take much effort
Title: Re: Neutral Opinions on "The Play"
Post by: True Fan on December 14, 2006, 12:49:13 am
Magnet Cove

No ties to either.

No score. Due to the absence of INDISPUTIBLE evidence, the play stands as called. There is a lot of talk about the line judges not making the call. Bull puckey. The one on the right side (left in most endzone shots) is clearly in position to make the call. He IMMEDIATELY moves in and is spotting the ball. That is his job. When the ball was spotted short, the white hat will declare the conversion no good. Looking at his mechanics, the call was probably right on the money. Video could prove him wrong, but I don't feel it has.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: scrapdawgof06 on December 14, 2006, 12:53:16 am
Quote from: ljackfan100 on December 14, 2006, 12:32:46 am
For you to leave intellegence out won't take much effort

ouch, that's some harsh words for someone who cant even spell  intelligence... nor has over 20 posts...

Scrapdawg

Go Scrappers!
Title: Re: Neutral Opinions on "The Play"
Post by: True Fan on December 14, 2006, 12:54:54 am
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2717016620649470349

The one running in doesn't spot the ball?
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: dc24 on December 14, 2006, 01:07:04 am
Quote from: [el_Decider] on December 13, 2006, 05:47:58 pm
Quote from: ljackfan100 on December 13, 2006, 05:44:56 pm
If things were the other way around NO ONE in Nashville would be congratulating Warren for winning.  You call can throw "whining" around easily because the error was in your favor. You are the poor sports for your cocky response to our indignation at getting SCREWED. ('scus us - were we supposed to like it?) It shows a huge lack of class on your part, which is sad as it disgraces your team.  They are great athletes and well-coached.  They played a heck of a game.  If Warren had to lose, I wish it had been a clear loss, rather than on a bad call.  You all knew that also when the replay show on the jumbotron. And we also know how it feels to be 2 year back-to-back state champs, by the way.  Everyone whose opinion matters know who the true 2006 Champs are. We have and will maintain integrity. 
And I've not heard much mention about the family relationship issue between the back judge and a VIP in Nashville. OOPs.  We know it won't be changed, but the film showed on Channel 7 last night told the facts.  No knee touch prior to the ball crossing.  They replayed it 4 times in slow motion.  Nothin' but air there.

Making accusations that the back judge is in ties with someone with Nashville = loss of integrity, a disgrace, poor sports and whining.

So other than taking away most of your post credibility with the last few statements... it was almost a good post.

How is this different than Nashville fans accusing people from Warren of doctoring the photos and video?
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: ljackfan100 on December 14, 2006, 01:09:22 am
Well, now my feelings are really hurt.  Can't pick apart the content, so aim for the spellcheck.  I can take it.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: ljackfan100 on December 14, 2006, 01:13:58 am
GOOD POINT, SIR.  As if it would be possible to obtain all the film and photoography material out there, then doctor it.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: [el_CaC] on December 14, 2006, 01:31:59 am
Quote from: dc24 on December 14, 2006, 01:07:04 am
Quote from: [el_Decider] on December 13, 2006, 05:47:58 pm
Quote from: ljackfan100 on December 13, 2006, 05:44:56 pm
If things were the other way around NO ONE in Nashville would be congratulating Warren for winning.  You call can throw "whining" around easily because the error was in your favor. You are the poor sports for your cocky response to our indignation at getting SCREWED. ('scus us - were we supposed to like it?) It shows a huge lack of class on your part, which is sad as it disgraces your team.  They are great athletes and well-coached.  They played a heck of a game.  If Warren had to lose, I wish it had been a clear loss, rather than on a bad call.  You all knew that also when the replay show on the jumbotron. And we also know how it feels to be 2 year back-to-back state champs, by the way.  Everyone whose opinion matters know who the true 2006 Champs are. We have and will maintain integrity. 
And I've not heard much mention about the family relationship issue between the back judge and a VIP in Nashville. OOPs.  We know it won't be changed, but the film showed on Channel 7 last night told the facts.  No knee touch prior to the ball crossing.  They replayed it 4 times in slow motion.  Nothin' but air there.

Making accusations that the back judge is in ties with someone with Nashville = loss of integrity, a disgrace, poor sports and whining.

So other than taking away most of your post credibility with the last few statements... it was almost a good post.

How is this different than Nashville fans accusing people from Warren of doctoring the photos and video?

It isn't. I would call them out as well. I don't hold favoritism to either side.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: dc24 on December 14, 2006, 01:34:09 am
Quote from: [el_Decider] on December 14, 2006, 01:31:59 am
Quote from: dc24 on December 14, 2006, 01:07:04 am
Quote from: [el_Decider] on December 13, 2006, 05:47:58 pm
Quote from: ljackfan100 on December 13, 2006, 05:44:56 pm
If things were the other way around NO ONE in Nashville would be congratulating Warren for winning.  You call can throw "whining" around easily because the error was in your favor. You are the poor sports for your cocky response to our indignation at getting SCREWED. ('scus us - were we supposed to like it?) It shows a huge lack of class on your part, which is sad as it disgraces your team.  They are great athletes and well-coached.  They played a heck of a game.  If Warren had to lose, I wish it had been a clear loss, rather than on a bad call.  You all knew that also when the replay show on the jumbotron. And we also know how it feels to be 2 year back-to-back state champs, by the way.  Everyone whose opinion matters know who the true 2006 Champs are. We have and will maintain integrity. 
And I've not heard much mention about the family relationship issue between the back judge and a VIP in Nashville. OOPs.  We know it won't be changed, but the film showed on Channel 7 last night told the facts.  No knee touch prior to the ball crossing.  They replayed it 4 times in slow motion.  Nothin' but air there.

Making accusations that the back judge is in ties with someone with Nashville = loss of integrity, a disgrace, poor sports and whining.

So other than taking away most of your post credibility with the last few statements... it was almost a good post.

How is this different than Nashville fans accusing people from Warren of doctoring the photos and video?

It isn't. I would call them out as well. I don't hold favoritism to either side.

Thank you.  That's all I wanted to know.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: [el_CaC] on December 14, 2006, 01:34:17 am
Quote from: ljackfan100 on December 14, 2006, 12:32:46 am
For you to leave intellegence out won't take much effort

Yea I know, that would be about as ludicrous as someone who holds a favoritism to one side in the whole "wrong call" argument calling me out for not be an objective responder in the matter. Crazy ain't it?
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: HIT MAN on December 14, 2006, 08:14:31 am
Yes
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: nomorewhining on December 14, 2006, 08:17:33 am
There are blown calls that cost some team a game every Friday night.....you can't repeat them all....live with it....move on.....great life lesson.......it is never fair.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: originalhawg on December 14, 2006, 08:19:01 am
Quote from: [el_Decider] on December 12, 2006, 04:30:49 pm
GET OVER IT.

Nashville won. Bad calls happen. This isn't the first time that a state championship game has had a controversial call, so why would it shake the foundation of high school football? There was some controversy a few years about the state title game between Greenwood and Wynne. Does anyone remember what all the fuss and talks of a "Tainted Title" were about? No. That matter passed. This matter will pass. So, please, however hard it is... get over it.

Thank you so much.  Life is not fair.  If this is the biggest dissapointment the kids in Warren suffer during their lifespan then life will have been tremendously good to them.  I would hope someone in Warren will help these kids apply this defeat in a positive way in their lives and help them all become great men of character.  That is some good that could come of this supposed (in some peoples eyes) tragedy!
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: ljackfan100 on December 14, 2006, 08:36:25 am
Now it's you who just doesn't seem to get it.  Didn't call you out on objectivity, rather the smart*** factor in your responses.   Not worth it.   
Title: Re: Neutral Opinions on "The Play"
Post by: Jimbo Morphis on December 14, 2006, 09:02:17 am
i'm neutral, has warren ever won a game due to a bad call? maybe not that big a game but i'm sure it has happened. i hate it for the kids who worked so hard and had a great year, but it  done and can't be changed. get over it, life is not  always fair and believe it or not this is just a game. many people you know have much bigger problems than this.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: chickenhawk on December 14, 2006, 10:49:24 am
Quote from: scrapdawgof06 on December 14, 2006, 12:53:16 am
Quote from: ljackfan100 on December 14, 2006, 12:32:46 am
For you to leave intellegence out won't take much effort

ouch, that's some harsh words for someone who cant even spell  intelligence... nor has over 20 posts...

Scrapdawg

Go Scrappers!
What does the number of posts have anything to do with this conversation?  Running out of smart comments to make so you've resorted to the number of posts? 
Title: Re: Neutral Opinions on "The Play"
Post by: Billy Bob on December 14, 2006, 10:59:26 am
I'm neutral, and have watched the clips SEVERAL times, and looked at the photos. I say he was in. The ball crossed the plain before his body hit the ground. I'm not an official though. There's nothing that can be done about it now. Nashville has to live with the fact that they "didn't really win," and Warren has to live with the fact that they got "cheated out of it." We'll more than likely see both teams make a run at the state again next year.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: sam on December 14, 2006, 11:01:46 am
Quote from: ljackfan100 on December 14, 2006, 08:36:25 am
Now it's you who just doesn't seem to get it.  Didn't call you out on objectivity, rather the smart*** factor in your responses.   Not worth it.  

I thought cussing in the form of ******* these things was unacceptable?  I got hammered for it the other day.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: sam on December 14, 2006, 11:16:45 am
I'm sure someone said it before in another post, but I don't wanna read back through them all. 

What were the reporters saying during the replay on this tv station?

I'm still at a loss why they would replay this.  Hey I have a great idea, lets try to completely ruin the life of this back judge so we can have virtual bragging rights.  He made about $100 for doing this game and now he is under state-wide scrutiny. 

It's worth it though, isn't it. 

If you were the back judge who was trying to make the right call, and I promise he was, wouldn't you want to be under the microscope by a news show who was just trying to play something controversial to get ratings?

What is better?  Making this guy's life intolerable or having your make believe state championship that no one outside of Warren will ever even know about?
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Orange rush on December 14, 2006, 11:19:49 am

If I'm so wrong about how the vote happened, then how in the world did it get passed?

At the very least, it had to be a majority.  Nashville only has one vote last i checked. 

I don't care about the private schools, we are 2-1 against cac and 2-0 against pa. It does not affect Nashville so much, but we wanted what's best for the state.

Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: sam on December 14, 2006, 11:26:44 am
Quote from: jacks07 on December 13, 2006, 04:54:04 pm
fobcat_ban=moron!!

Quote from: Moron Detector on December 13, 2006, 04:57:53 pm
I am the authority on that particular subject.  I say no (and the video replay will not be used to overturn the call, so deal with it).



Please, no videos of fobcat.  That would get the whole board shut down. 
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: sam on December 14, 2006, 11:38:40 am
Warren collectively says...........Yes
Everyone else collectively says........No
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Scrapper Slapper on December 14, 2006, 11:39:37 am
Quote from: Orange rush on December 14, 2006, 11:19:49 am

If I'm so wrong about how the vote happened, then how in the world did it get passed?

At the very least, it had to be a majority.  Nashville only has one vote last i checked. 

I don't care about the private schools, we are 2-1 against cac and 2-0 against pa. It does not affect Nashville so much, but we wanted what's best for the state.



NLS doesn't seem to be on the board today so allow me to respond.  (I would make it big and yellow, but I am too lazy)

How did it get passed?  Read the first post on this thread.  People with a vested interest voted to benefit themselves.  Real life?  Yes.  Fair?  What does that have to do with real life? 

What's best for the state?  PLEASE!  Everybody voted what was best for his own school and your AD was the leader of the band.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: OldScrap on December 14, 2006, 12:47:18 pm
Well though out post and its true. I to feel the last thing the referee would have wanted is to make a wrong call. Its very sad that some would attack him so hard and personally, especially in a place he cannot defend his self, and using gossip to attack him and his credibility on this board. As for the TV station, its about ratings just as you said no matter the effect it might have on a person and or persons.

Character is not what a person thinks of self, but what others think about them.

Great character is not built by how a person reacts, behaves when everything is going their way, but how they reacts, behave when everything seems to go against them.

Our children's character is built by how they see adults act, especially their parents, teachers, and coaches.

And I for one know that if this close call went to the Warren Lumberjacks they would take it as well as the trophy even if more than half the people in Arkansas said it was a wrong call. The Warren Lumberjacks would be happy to abide by the rules of the AAA in such a situation. I feel assured in past games they have been wrong calls made against their opponents and never offered their opponent to change the call, but took advantage of the bad call.

And yes, they would probably be a few Nashville Scrappers fans that would have reacted, behaved and said things that were inappropriate if a close call against the Nashville Scrappers had gone in favor of the Warren Lumberjacks.

The biggest down fall for all sports is those parents and or fans that set such a bad example for our children when a close call goes against them, their true character comes out for all to see, but the true suffers be our children, the influence it has on forming their character.

And we Nashville Scrapper fans are proud of our team, we are happy they are the 2006 State Champions, just as you would have been if the call had went your way.

I offer once again the Warren Lumberjacks on playing a great game, and wish them and their fans a wonderful future.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: [el_CaC] on December 14, 2006, 12:53:27 pm
Quote from: originalhawg on December 14, 2006, 08:19:01 am
Quote from: [el_Decider] on December 12, 2006, 04:30:49 pm
GET OVER IT.

Nashville won. Bad calls happen. This isn't the first time that a state championship game has had a controversial call, so why would it shake the foundation of high school football? There was some controversy a few years about the state title game between Greenwood and Wynne. Does anyone remember what all the fuss and talks of a "Tainted Title" were about? No. That matter passed. This matter will pass. So, please, however hard it is... get over it.

Thank you so much.  Life is not fair.  If this is the biggest dissapointment the kids in Warren suffer during their lifespan then life will have been tremendously good to them.  I would hope someone in Warren will help these kids apply this defeat in a positive way in their lives and help them all become great men of character.  That is some good that could come of this supposed (in some peoples eyes) tragedy!

Seriously.

I know it was the state championship game. I know how much the sport means to them. Heck I am 19 years old, my old days of high school football are not that much of a faint memory. I never even had the oppertunity to play in a state championship game. The furtherest my team ever made it was third round, and then we were knocked off by Prescott. After that it was two second round finishes. I never got the oppertunity to have a shot at a state title, but apparently that does not seem to be good enough for people now a days.

Warren, your team was given an honor that only two teams in this classification get. You know how many teams would love to fill your shoes? Would love to have just been in the state championship, even if it meant they got blown out in the process? Just to have had the oppertunity to play for the championship? Every other team would have traded you spots to go to War Memorial that night.

The call was probably a bad call, but look you guys let it come down to overtime. In overtime, the slightest mistake or the slightest doubt in how something looks, could cost you the game. Also, the whole reason it came down to over time is because how great the two teams were compared to one another. Nashville blew everyone out of the water this season. The same with Warren. When they meet up the game goes into double overtime. What more could you ask for? But to say that you guys deserve the title, or that it is a tainted title... well that is taking so much away from the Scrappers team. They fought just as hard. They hung in there until the very end. They, much like yourself, are extremely deserving of the title and I respect and acknowledge them for that.

So seriously, I hate it for your senior class. Out of everyone they are the ones that will probably take this the hardest and feel the most cheated, but they should realize that they did nothing wrong, played their hearts out and got to perform in the grandest stage of high school football(something that is awarded to everyone, even once.). But if you truely feel like you were cheated Warren fans, returning players, coaches, and supporters... then keep that feeling, keep that hunger, and go out there and win the title next year.

I have been bashing numerous Warren posters(or people that take Warrens), but not because they are from Warren, or because I support Nashville, but because some of the idiotic crap that is laced within their posts. I don't mind that you feel cheated, post all day about it. I don't mind that you are trying to change everyones outlook on this subject with different video and picture proof, althought its only going to be in vain. What does get on my nerves, however, is stuff about how Nashville doesn't deserve the title, the back judge was related to a Nashville player, Nashville should hand over the trophy... and other utterly stupid remarks along those lines.

What if the roles were reversed and the shoe was on the other foot? I would be flaming idiotic Nashville posters.

So please, get over this whole matter.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Orange rush on December 14, 2006, 01:07:04 pm
great post
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: sam on December 14, 2006, 01:10:37 pm
I bet it was great, but I don't read posts over one paragraph long. 
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: [el_CaC] on December 14, 2006, 01:12:59 pm
Quote from: sam on December 14, 2006, 01:10:37 pm
I bet it was great, but I don't read posts over one paragraph long. 

Lazy. I even read your post.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: sam on December 14, 2006, 01:13:34 pm
Ok I'm gonna go read it.  Be back in a couple of hours. 
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: sam on December 14, 2006, 01:15:42 pm
Very articulate.  That's what I would have said if I were elegant enough with words.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: [el_CaC] on December 14, 2006, 01:18:59 pm
So sam, you being from Booneville and with all of this commotion dying down, who all are the Bearcats losing from graduation?
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: sam on December 14, 2006, 01:20:27 pm
A water girl and a couple of linemen. 

And maybe Rip. 
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: [el_CaC] on December 14, 2006, 01:27:14 pm
Quote from: sam on December 14, 2006, 01:20:27 pm
A water girl and a couple of linemen. 

And maybe Rip. 

I think if Rip was going, he would have already made the announcement. His brother didn't hold out on us very long when he decided to call it quits, but even then it was a hard thing to take. I see him wanting to have a winning season to go out on. I mean heck, our Rip's last season he had a team with very little talent and lead them to the championship game. Its the Rip way, so you will see him pull some sort of strange season out of nowhere before he leaves.

Losing the linemen? That will hurt, probably not all that much though... they weren't the best line you guys have had. You still have Waters, Emery, and Goff... so that will help.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: FootballGuy43 on December 14, 2006, 01:59:00 pm
I used it in a post today and haven't been nailed  yet...
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: FootballGuy43 on December 14, 2006, 02:02:11 pm
I say that this game is causing too many problems and needs to be forgotten.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Super Scrapper on December 14, 2006, 04:44:25 pm
Fact is our AD, now Superintendent was one of two that proposed the increase.  He represents about 75 school districts and voted as they wished, not just as Nashville wished.  This was not a one school benefit.  SS

Go Scrappers
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Orange rush on December 14, 2006, 06:03:15 pm

md,

come on man. you can't lay the multiplier solely at the feet of doug graham. He does not have the stroke to make everyone vote his way period.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: OldScrap on December 14, 2006, 06:06:29 pm
Quote from: No Longer Sensitive on December 12, 2006, 02:52:06 pm


OldScrap apparently does not know how to use the quote function.  Therefore for the benefit of anyone who actually reads this, the words inside his little  <<marks>> are from my original post.
Quote from: OldScrap on December 12, 2006, 01:12:25 pm
<<I am a 7-4A supporter and I am proud that one of our teams has won the State Championship for the third consecutive year.  It was obvious that Nashville won every statistical category and should have scored several times when they didn't.  Overtime should never have been involved. >>


Are you saying the game should not have gone in over time as the rules require? That at the end of the 4th quarter the game should have been declared a tie and all rules thrown out? Or Warren should have been declared the winner at the end of the 4th quarter when it was only a tied game?


No.  I am saying that if Nashville had not repeatedly shot themselves in the foot there would never have been an overtime.  I think everyone who read this post other than you understood that.
Quote from: OldScrap on December 12, 2006, 01:12:25 pm


<<That being said, the officials were wrong and Warren should should have been declared the champion.>> 

Do you think in every game when the official makes a call and some object, it should not stand but be changed? Where would it end?


I didn't say that the erroneous call should be reversed after the fact.  I am saying that the officials should have made the right call in the first place and we would not be having this argument.  Errors happen.  That doesn't make them right.

Quote from: OldScrap on December 12, 2006, 01:12:25 pm
<<When private school supporters complained, they were told to stop whining.  "The vote was overwhelming!  It must be the right thing to do."  Would the Scrapper fans agree to award the championship trophy this year on the basis of a vote by all of the people who see the video?  No, because they would say that all of those people are just "haters."  Now you see how the private schools felt when we received the results of the AAA vote. >>

Has it not always been the majority rule? Why all of a sudden should that change? Every school in the AAA agrees to go by its rules that have made, if they don't like them they can try to change them or they can get out, their choice.

Do I understand that you would be willing for the AAA reps to look at the game film and vote to see if you keep your championship trophy?  Why not?  Shouldn't the majority rule?  Apparently in this instance you think the majority is wrong.  Private school supporters felt the same way when their enrollments were "Grahamatically corrected" (I stole that phrase, but I really like it!)

Quote from: OldScrap on December 12, 2006, 01:12:25 pm

<<Maybe both sides can have a little better understanding of how we felt last year.>>

I have a great understanding, at the end of a game the one who loses many times will come up with some excuse. And I understand the one who loses is not happy, in fact some get down right bitter. But again, going into the game both teams agreed to abide by the calls the refer made, even if they disagree with them.


My post had nothing to do with the game.  It was to demonstrate that you wouldn't like for someone else to control your destiny just because they were in the majority, and when you are wronged it is not a crime to say so.

I know how to use the quote, but responding to that post it was easier to do it as I did.

Now I am responding to this.

<<
Quote from: OldScrap on December 12, 2006, 01:12:25 pm
<<When private school supporters complained, they were told to stop whining.  "The vote was overwhelming!  It must be the right thing to do."  Would the Scrapper fans agree to award the championship trophy this year on the basis of a vote by all of the people who see the video?  No, because they would say that all of those people are just "haters."  Now you see how the private schools felt when we received the results of the AAA vote. >>

Has it not always been the majority rule? Why all of a sudden should that change? Every school in the AAA agrees to go by its rules that have made, if they don't like them they can try to change them or they can get out, their choice.
>>

It is not all of a sudden a change. Majority rule is correct, but the rules of the majority within the AAA is that all games will be played according to rules that have been put in place prior the game, not after the game.

You sound much like a young child playing and ever time it does not go your way you want to change rules that are already in place.

Show us one football game where the AAA rules were changed after a football game was played because the loser did not like the outcome.

Any time rules are changed by the AAA it does not affect games already played, only future games. That is the way its always been and should stay.

Both teams knew what the rules were when the game started, trying to changed them afterwards is the cry baby way.

Sorry I did not respond to this sooner, but for some reason it did not notify me and I missed it.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: Super Scrapper on December 14, 2006, 06:22:48 pm
Quote from: ljackfan100 on December 13, 2006, 06:14:29 pm
Wow! This photo sais it all.  A shadow can't be cast unless there's space between the object and the ground and there's clearly a shadow under the ball carrier's legs/knees AND the ball's across the line.  No doubt. 

Not hardly...The photo shows it all alright but it does so by the ref putting his foot down where Jarius is just short of the goal line.  The ref is the one with the unobstructed view and knows that he did not make the conversion...Good call, point no good...SS

Go Scrappers
   ;)
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: SCRAPPER MOM#1 on December 14, 2006, 06:38:19 pm
I would love to see another match up between these two teams. Not to mention the tailgate stuff that goes along with them meeting.
Name a place and time and lets all work on something.
Title: Re: Neutral Opinions on "The Play"
Post by: The Train on December 14, 2006, 07:51:06 pm
Clinton...I was at the game, seated on about the 25 1/2 on the Warren side, and had a perfect view.  Although my views don't mean much, I know what I saw.  As he went in, and jumped in for the game winning conversion, I saw him going down and thought he was going to hit his leg on the ground just shy of the goal line.  It may sound far-fetched, but when I watch football games I look at little stuff.  But, when i saw him cross the plane before he hit the ground, I was jumping and going crazy with my friends and a couple fans.  When the ref called him down with inches, I had never been more angry as a fan watching a football game.  I have friends from both sides of the game, and I thought it would be cool to see Nashville get a back-to-back attack at State, but I would have liked to of seen Warren win since they put us out of the playoffs. From my perspective, Warren won, but stuff happens.  Look forward to next year Warren, I see a nice clean road, with a few pot holes, on your way to "The 'Ship"...
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: ljackfan100 on December 14, 2006, 07:56:10 pm
Realistically, the officials would have to be able to see through a swarm of bodies to have a "clear, unobstructed view" of the play.  Notice the number of comments regarding human error being a part of football and "not the first or only bad call to happen" in these board posts.  "Clear, unobstructed view" is dreaming.  I'm sure the officials wish that had been the case.  And why do they use replays in pro ball to determine the correct call on an iffy play?  Because cause often a clear, unobstructed view isn't possible.   Sam should offer a bit of comic relief on the subject of the "clear, unobstructed view" topic.  He's a hoot!
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: BringbckSingletary on December 14, 2006, 08:30:59 pm
Warren would love it, Nashville probably wouldn't want to play in that game
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: ljackfan100 on December 14, 2006, 08:31:01 pm
To answer Sam's question about why Chan. 7 would replay the film footage:  IT'S NEWS.  My sister lives in Round Rock, TX and saw it on their local CBS affiliate's sportscast.  I saw a post from a quy in Boston who had seen it locally aired.  And as to what the sportscaster was saying -"tough call.... you have to feel for the officials...I'd hate to be in their spot..." and such.  You can go to KATV Sports and watch the broadcast from Tues. night at 10:00pm to see for yourself.  He stopped just short of saying it looked like a bad call.  But see for yourself.  They repalyed the last play 4 times; 3 in slow motion.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Super Scrapper on December 14, 2006, 08:40:42 pm
Quote from: BringbckSingletary on December 14, 2006, 08:30:59 pm
Warren would love it, Nashville probably wouldn't want to play in that game

What would ever make you make a statement like that.  I was wanting to play you the week after you beat us in 2001.  The Scrappers are always ready for some "FOOTBALL"....I think it would be great but I bet the AAA wouldn't allow it....SS

Go Scrappers
  ;)
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: dc24 on December 14, 2006, 08:48:22 pm
Why would Warren want to play?  We won the first one.   ;) ;D
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Super Scrapper on December 14, 2006, 08:58:58 pm
Quote from: dc24 on December 14, 2006, 08:48:22 pm
Why would Warren want to play?  We won the first one.   ;) ;D

Right!  Since you didn't play football, maybe you have this game confused with golf?  But low score didn't win this game.....SS

Go Scrappers
   ;D
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: dc24 on December 14, 2006, 09:03:31 pm
Quote from: Super Scrapper on December 14, 2006, 08:58:58 pm
Quote from: dc24 on December 14, 2006, 08:48:22 pm
Why would Warren want to play?  We won the first one.   ;) ;D

Right!  Since you didn't play football, maybe you have this game confused with golf?  But low score didn't win this game.....SS

Go Scrappers
   ;D

I didn't have to play football to know that the scoreboard should have read 22-21.  That's how obvious the call was.   ;) ;D
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Super Scrapper on December 14, 2006, 09:08:04 pm
Quote from: dc24 on December 14, 2006, 09:03:31 pm
Quote from: Super Scrapper on December 14, 2006, 08:58:58 pm
Quote from: dc24 on December 14, 2006, 08:48:22 pm
Why would Warren want to play?  We won the first one.   ;) ;D

Right!  Since you didn't play football, maybe you have this game confused with golf?  But low score didn't win this game.....SS

Go Scrappers
   ;D

I didn't have to play football to know that the scoreboard should have read 22-21.  That's how obvious the call was.    ;) ;D

It's obvious you need your eyes checked...SS

Go Scrappers
 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: dc24 on December 14, 2006, 09:11:36 pm
Quote from: Super Scrapper on December 14, 2006, 09:08:04 pm
Quote from: dc24 on December 14, 2006, 09:03:31 pm
Quote from: Super Scrapper on December 14, 2006, 08:58:58 pm
Quote from: dc24 on December 14, 2006, 08:48:22 pm
Why would Warren want to play?  We won the first one.   ;) ;D

Right!  Since you didn't play football, maybe you have this game confused with golf?  But low score didn't win this game.....SS

Go Scrappers
   ;D

I didn't have to play football to know that the scoreboard should have read 22-21.  That's how obvious the call was.    ;) ;D

It's obvious you need your eyes checked...SS

Go Scrappers
 ;D ;D

I already wear glasses, SS.  I've got 20/20 right now. ;D
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Super Scrapper on December 14, 2006, 09:25:00 pm
Quote author=ljackfan100 link=topic=61282.msg1246655#msg1246655 date=1166149861To answer Sam's question about why Chan. 7 would replay the film footage:  IT'S NEWS.  My sister lives in Round Rock, TX and saw it on their local CBS affiliate's sportscast.  I saw a post from a quy in Boston who had seen it locally aired.  And as to what the sportscaster was saying -"tough call.... you have to feel for the officials...I'd hate to be in their spot..." and such.  You can go to KATV Sports and watch the broadcast from Tues. night at 10:00pm to see for yourself.  He stopped just short of saying it looked like a bad call.   But see for yourself.  They repalyed the last play 4 times; 3 in slow motion.

NEVER...did he come near saying it was a "Bad Call" .   He did say it was a very close call and it was one that all of the fans in WARREN were wanting to see....but he never said it was a "BAD" call....That is what you were wanting him to say,. just as you are wanting to see it.  IT JUST ISN'T THERE..............SS

Go Scrappers
       ;D
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: ljackfan100 on December 14, 2006, 09:40:37 pm
I did not quote him having said it was a bad call.  I said he stopped short of saying...  You seemed really upset afterviewing the broadcast.  Oh, but you will say you were only upset by my comments.  Hmmm...
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Bleachermom on December 14, 2006, 09:42:12 pm
Quote from: Super Scrapper on December 14, 2006, 04:44:25 pm
Fact is our AD, now Superintendent was one of two that proposed the increase.  He represents about 75 school districts and voted as they wished, not just as Nashville wished.  This was not a one school benefit.  SS

Go Scrappers

But Nashville had the most to gain by "getting the private schools out of 3A" (a direct quote of Mr. Graham.) Nashville was assured of staying one of the largest schools in the new 4A. Question:  Why did Mr. Graham propose that the old 4A and 5A vote on the proposal when it did not affect them?  Remember, you are the one who repeatedly told me to do my homework. I did.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Sensitive on December 14, 2006, 10:35:02 pm
Quote from: OldScrap on December 14, 2006, 06:06:29 pm
You sound much like a young child playing and ever time it does not go your way you want to change rules that are already in place.

Isn't that what happened with the multiplier increase?  I am not saying that a vote SHOULD be taken to determine who won the championship game.  I asked how you would like it if that were the way it was done.  It is obvous that you wouldn't like it very much.

I won't quote SuperScrapper's post, but he is right, Doug Graham was not the only one who proposed changing the rule.  It was also proposed in activity district #4.  However, he was first, he was the only AAA board member to make the proposal, and he was the voice of the campaign to pass it.  I am sorry that these facts seem to bother you, but that does not keep them from being facts.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: The critic on December 14, 2006, 11:17:01 pm
Warren has nothing else to prove.  They have already beat them once, why beat them again.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Super Scrapper on December 14, 2006, 11:17:56 pm
Quote from: Bleachermom on December 14, 2006, 09:42:12 pm
Quote from: Super Scrapper on December 14, 2006, 04:44:25 pm
Fact is our AD, now Superintendent was one of two that proposed the increase.  He represents about 75 school districts and voted as they wished, not just as Nashville wished.  This was not a one school benefit.  SS

Go Scrappers

But Nashville had the most to gain by "getting the private schools out of 3A" (a direct quote of Mr. Graham.) Nashville was assured of staying one of the largest schools in the new 4A. Question:  Why did Mr. Graham propose that the old 4A and 5A vote on the proposal when it did not affect them?  Remember, you are the one who repeatedly told me to do my homework. I did.

No hidden agenda there...He told everyone to vote for it.   He made the proposal and he believed in it.  He obviously wanted everyone to vote for it.  I never said he did not campaign for it.  I just said he did not do it just for Nashville and he sure did not do it b/c CAC beat us one time.  That is the most ridiculous idea of all.... Even if he wanted the private schools out to keep Nashville in a lower class, it had nothing to do with them beating us.  We had only lost to CAC the one time and our record against private schools is now 6-1 and climbing.....SS

Go Scrappers
   ;D
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Super Scrapper on December 14, 2006, 11:23:30 pm
Quote from: The critic on December 14, 2006, 11:17:01 pm
Warren has nothing else to prove.  They have already beat them once, why beat them again.

You weren't paying attention...Warren got beat, Nashville is 14 -  0 ...SS

Go Scrappers
  ;D
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: OldScrap on December 14, 2006, 11:50:44 pm
They had a vote at the AAA, the majority voted for the multiplier, majority rules, its in.

Those who were far it probably voted for it, those against it probably voted against it, that is their right and I respect their rights. 

The side who got the most votes rule.

After that it was time to abide by the rules thru this season, not to spread hate and discontent.

I have no idea when the AAA meets for the purpose of changing things or what ever, that would be the time for those who are against the multiplier to bring it up. Them if it passes again, great, go by that rule, if it fails, them go by that rule.

Running people down and spreading hated does no one any good.  And it seems much of that has been pitched towards Nashville, since Saturday is more than doubled.

Why is it so many people and schools have so much trouble abiding by the ruling authority, in high school football its the AAA. If one does not like the authority, they should just get out.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: OldScrap on December 14, 2006, 11:59:34 pm
Quote from: The critic on December 14, 2006, 11:17:01 pm
Warren has nothing else to prove.  They have already beat them once, why beat them again.

Oh that's so sad, you must have missed the very end of the game if you think Warren won, hey let me fill you in I really don't mind one bit, Nashville won 21-20 and they awarded the big pretty trophy to the 2006 Nashville Scrappers.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: [el_CaC] on December 15, 2006, 01:45:20 am
Quote from: ljackfan100 on December 14, 2006, 09:40:37 pm
I did not quote him having said it was a bad call.  I said he stopped short of saying...  You seemed really upset afterviewing the broadcast.  Oh, but you will say you were only upset by my comments.  Hmmm...

You are implying that you know what he was thinking?
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: Wahls on December 15, 2006, 08:50:32 am
Quote from: pantherfan56 on December 13, 2006, 08:09:55 pm
Quote from: donkeys jawbone on December 13, 2006, 06:29:19 pm
that ain't a shadow under his leg. i'd be willing to bet a tainted state championship that's just rubber from the turf flying up from number 52's foot. ask the players. i'm sure they're still picking goodyear bits out of their ears.
Either you're beeing sarcastic, or you've never played on turf... I'll assume the latter and go with no turf has that much rubber flying up no matter how new it is.

SAU's does.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Sensitive on December 15, 2006, 11:12:13 am
Quote from: Super Scrapper on December 14, 2006, 11:17:56 pm

No hidden agenda there...He told everyone to vote for it.   He made the proposal and he believed in it.  He obviously wanted everyone to vote for it.  I never said he did not campaign for it.  I just said he did not do it just for Nashville and he sure did not do it b/c CAC beat us one time.  That is the most ridiculous idea of all.... Even if he wanted the private schools out to keep Nashville in a lower class, it had nothing to do with them beating us.  We had only lost to CAC the one time and our record against private schools is now 6-1 and climbing.....SS

Go Scrappers
   ;D


Mark this down, I am going to agree with Super Scrapper...at least with most of this post.  He is right about almost everything he says about Mr. Graham and the multiplier (even the part that losing one game to CAC had little to do with it). 

I disagree that Mr. Graham was looking out for anyone other than his school (which is what he is paid to do).  The only consideration he gave to other schools was how to convince them to support his measure.  Don't get me wrong, the man was doing his job.  He was trying to position Nashville in the very best situation possible.  Hats off to him.  It worked.  Just don't try to convince anyone that the reason behind the increased multiplier was Doug Graham's concern for the welfare of the masses.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: ljackfan100 on December 15, 2006, 11:14:01 am
Why even waste space with that question?  What does it matter?
But since it means enough to you to ask; no I do not presume to know what he was thinking. Duh.  Just made the obvious observation that seemed upset.  I drew that conclusion from his comment content and dramatic font, colorization, etc.
How in the world have you become so very wise at the age of 19?
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Sensitive on December 15, 2006, 11:23:16 am
Quote from: OldScrap on December 14, 2006, 11:50:44 pm
They had a vote at the AAA, the majority voted for the multiplier, majority rules, its in.

Those who were far it probably voted for it, those against it probably voted against it, that is their right and I respect their rights. 

The side who got the most votes rule.

After that it was time to abide by the rules thru this season, not to spread hate and discontent.

I have no idea when the AAA meets for the purpose of changing things or what ever, that would be the time for those who are against the multiplier to bring it up. Them if it passes again, great, go by that rule, if it fails, them go by that rule.

Running people down and spreading hated does no one any good.  And it seems much of that has been pitched towards Nashville, since Saturday is more than doubled.

Why is it so many people and schools have so much trouble abiding by the ruling authority, in high school football its the AAA. If one does not like the authority, they should just get out.

So anyone who feels that an injustice has been done, that people have been duped, and that something unfair has been perpetrated are just to sit by and smile?  There is a difference in trying to express a reasoned opinion and spreading hatred.  If you are confused by that then there is little reason for continuing to respond to your posts. 

Let me say (I think for the third time) that the only purpose of this thread was to point out two things...#1 When someone is treated unfairly they should be heard, and #2 That "majority rule" does not always bring about the right result.  Granted, in the case of organizations that does not change the fact that a bad rule is still the rule and even those who are treated unfairly must abide by the rule. 

So why am I still mentioning the multiplier?  See point #1 above.

In response to your final line, when a candidate or proposal you disagree with wins in an election do you move?  Do you get out of the country just because the wrong person is elected President?  No, you stay and try to show why things should change.  America even with all its warts is the greatest country on earth.  I think it is worth fighting to make it better.  Is the AAA perfect?  No, but it is the best thing going right now and I think it is worth an effort to make it better.
 
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: ljackfan100 on December 15, 2006, 11:24:52 am
SAM where are you???  Expand on the idea of officials having an "unobstructed view" on the field.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: sam on December 15, 2006, 11:27:44 am
I already put my picture up.

Do I need to put it up again.

My picture explains it all.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: ljackfan100 on December 15, 2006, 12:22:44 pm
Dang.  You're done?  Regardless of your opinions, you are so entertaining tha you even make disagreeing fun. Sam's a Rock Star poster. (no sarcasm) Hey, this looks like fan mail!   
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: [el_CaC] on December 15, 2006, 12:27:27 pm
Quote from: ljackfan100 on December 15, 2006, 11:14:01 am
Why even waste space with that question?  What does it matter?
But since it means enough to you to ask; no I do not presume to know what he was thinking. Duh.  Just made the obvious observation that seemed upset.  I drew that conclusion from his comment content and dramatic font, colorization, etc.
How in the world have you become so very wise at the age of 19?

Skill ;)
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: sam on December 15, 2006, 12:27:33 pm
His knee was down.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: sam on December 15, 2006, 12:29:06 pm
Quote from: ljackfan100 on December 15, 2006, 11:14:01 am
How in the world have you become so very wise at the age of 19?

He's made out with a lot of old women. 
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: ljackfan100 on December 15, 2006, 01:15:57 pm
....on a defensive guy's belly, not the ground, as the ball crossed the line.  And yep, video shows his elbow touching down (on the line) just after the ball crossed.  Elbow was the first body apendage to contact ground on the east lab video. 
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: ljackfan100 on December 15, 2006, 01:19:06 pm
You rarely disappoint! I needed a giggle.  Thanks.

You're a Rock Star in the humor department.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: sam on December 15, 2006, 01:23:45 pm
Quote from: ljackfan100 on December 15, 2006, 01:19:06 pm
You rarely disappoint! I needed a giggle.  Thanks.

You're a Rock Star in the humor department.

I'll mail you an autograph.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Scrapper Slapper on December 15, 2006, 01:24:11 pm
Doug Graham for President!
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: sam on December 15, 2006, 01:25:43 pm
Quote from: Moron Detector on December 15, 2006, 01:24:11 pm
Doug Graham's son for Kicker!

Rude!
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: FootballGuy43 on December 15, 2006, 01:27:27 pm
Quote from: sam on December 15, 2006, 01:25:43 pm
Quote from: Moron Detector on December 15, 2006, 01:24:11 pm
Doug Graham's son for President!

Nooooo!

Yes I feel the same way...
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: FootballGuy43 on December 15, 2006, 01:30:01 pm
Yeah and fobcat_ban is his groupie;)
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: sam on December 15, 2006, 01:34:27 pm
I want no part in a fan club. 
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: sam on December 15, 2006, 01:34:57 pm
I also don't want to fart in a pan club. 
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Scrapper Slapper on December 15, 2006, 01:35:24 pm
Quote from: sam on December 15, 2006, 01:25:43 pm
I think people who change other people's quotes should be drawn and quartered!
I agree!
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: sam on December 15, 2006, 01:36:25 pm
So how are things in the rock today?
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: FootballGuy43 on December 15, 2006, 01:36:49 pm
Quote from: sam on December 15, 2006, 01:34:57 pm
I also don't want to fart in a can pub. 

I'm sure I would not want to either...
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: transplant on December 15, 2006, 01:38:06 pm
A tart and a nap would be good.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: FootballGuy43 on December 15, 2006, 01:38:20 pm
Quote from: Moron Detector on December 15, 2006, 01:35:24 pm
Quote from: sam on December 15, 2006, 01:25:43 pm
I think people who change other people's quotes should be drawn and quartered!
I agree!

Oh come on...harmless fun.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: EddiesMustache on December 15, 2006, 01:38:46 pm
Quote from: sam on December 15, 2006, 01:36:25 pm
So how are things in the rock today?

I heard Pedro at the IHOP by War Memorial will make your wildest dreams come true.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: FootballGuy43 on December 15, 2006, 01:39:40 pm
Quote from: EddiesMustache on December 15, 2006, 01:38:46 pm
Quote from: sam on December 15, 2006, 01:36:25 pm
So how are things in the rock today?

I heard Pedro at the IHOP by War Memorial will make your wildest dreams come true.

He said Tina is involved so I would be kinda hesitant about that...
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: FootballGuy43 on December 15, 2006, 01:41:40 pm
Quote from: transplant on December 15, 2006, 01:38:06 pm
A tart and a nap would be good.

I don't believe I have any tarts at my home at the moment...plus I am not tired.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: sam on December 15, 2006, 01:43:31 pm
Quote from: BigBen7 on December 15, 2006, 01:36:49 pm
I also don't want to fart in a can pub. 

I want to fart on a republican. 
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: sam on December 15, 2006, 01:55:56 pm
Ben, that was funny.  I don't laugh from posts very often, but that was a ringer. 

He said something about building a cake.........
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: ljackfan100 on December 15, 2006, 02:15:21 pm
Man, you should get paid..I mean like $$$.  Laughter is good for the world and most of your input has brought refreshing humor to this stinkin' situation.  Glad I'm a democrat.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: FootballGuy43 on December 15, 2006, 02:18:04 pm
A cake with ham...interesting.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: FootballGuy43 on December 15, 2006, 02:28:48 pm
My knee was down...on one knee praying that he was in.
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: sam on December 15, 2006, 02:29:19 pm
ben, do you go to a-state?
Title: Re: And the 2 point conversion is GOOD!!!!!!!
Post by: FootballGuy43 on December 15, 2006, 02:30:40 pm
Quote from: sam on December 15, 2006, 02:29:19 pm
ben, do you go to a-state?

I go to Williams Baptist in Walnut Ridge but I'll be transferring to ASU after 2008
Title: Re: Neutral Opinions on "The Play"
Post by: FootballGuy43 on December 15, 2006, 02:34:45 pm
Quote from: sam on December 13, 2006, 02:34:55 pm
Like swimwear in December................I agree. 

You do know there are people in Alaska screaming at you right now...
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: FootballGuy43 on December 15, 2006, 02:35:31 pm
I'm independent like my good friend Robin Williams...
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Bleachermom on December 15, 2006, 02:42:41 pm
Quote from: Super Scrapper on December 14, 2006, 11:17:56 pm
No hidden agenda there...He told everyone to vote for it.   He made the proposal and he believed in it.  He obviously wanted everyone to vote for it.  I never said he did not campaign for it.  I just said he did not do it just for Nashville and he sure did not do it b/c CAC beat us one time.  That is the most ridiculous idea of all.... Even if he wanted the private schools out to keep Nashville in a lower class, it had nothing to do with them beating us.  We had only lost to CAC the one time and our record against private schools is now 6-1 and climbing.....SS

Go Scrappers
   ;D


No hidden agenda????? When his SOLE reason for proposing and promoting the increase was, "the private schools win too many championships!"  No hidden agenda???? Why didn't he just say...Hey, all you guys who will be in the new 4A, vote for my proposal to kick the private schools up to 5A and my school will be assured of dominating the 4A for the next two years at least. I guess that might have been a bit too up front for Mr. Graham, and that, sir, is the very epitome of a "hidden agenda". Give it a rest SS. I've done my research. Only a couple of schools in the activity district represented by Mr. Graham have ever played a private school. In fact, there are two or three private schools within his activity district...though I've never before heard of them. Looks like they all may play A basketball. I do believe Mr. Graham did not promote the increase because CAC beat Nashville one time. When I learned the real reason he promoted it....everything made a lot more sense.

Here is a quote from the Code of Ethics of the Board of Directors of the AAA.

"I also state that I believe that this organization should serve the
interests of the students of the state as a whole and these interests
should have precedence over the interest of students in a particular
school or district. If the school of which I am an employee is involved in
a dispute or an infraction of the rules and regulations of the Arkansas
Activities Association, I will refrain from participation in the deliberations
of the Board of Directors relative to the evaluation and actions
pertaining to the accusation or dispute."


http://www.ahsaa.org/2006-07%20AAA%20Handbook.pdf

So, do you think that, "Even if he wanted the private schools out to keep Nashville in a lower class, it had nothing to do with them beating us."...represents an ethical position?
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Bleachermom on December 15, 2006, 02:49:09 pm
Quote from: No Longer Sensitive on December 15, 2006, 11:12:13 am
I disagree that Mr. Graham was looking out for anyone other than his school (which is what he is paid to do).  The only consideration he gave to other schools was how to convince them to support his measure.  Don't get me wrong, the man was doing his job.  He was trying to position Nashville in the very best situation possible.  Hats off to him.  It worked.  Just don't try to convince anyone that the reason behind the increased multiplier was Doug Graham's concern for the welfare of the masses.[/b][/color][/size]

NLS, I very much disagree with you. As a AAA Board Member, Mr. Graham has a fiduciary responsibility to avoid standing up solely for the interest of Nashville. His responsibility, as stated in the AAA Board of Directors Code of Ethics (see above post) is to serve all the membership, that taking precedence over his own school.
That fiduciary responsibility is true of any Board of Directors.
Title: Re: Neutral Opinions on "The Play"
Post by: streetevangelistgrady on December 15, 2006, 02:59:05 pm
I support the Harmony Grove Hornets.  I saw the pics and He was in.  I hate it for both teams cause warren is going to be sick about it and nashville is always going to know or wonder if the victory was tainted.
Title: Re: Neutral Opinions on "The Play"
Post by: FootballGuy43 on December 15, 2006, 03:01:35 pm
This thread is getting old...

Mr. Herbstreit, what do you think they should do with it??

(http://i11.tinypic.com/44b4t5j.jpg)
Title: Re: Neutral Opinions on "The Play"
Post by: sam on December 15, 2006, 03:04:28 pm
Quote from: BigBen7 on December 15, 2006, 03:01:35 pm
This thread is getting old...

Mr. Herbstreit, what do you think they should do with it??

(http://i11.tinypic.com/44b4t5j.jpg)

Is Kirk drunk because I can't understand him.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Sarcasmrules on December 15, 2006, 05:49:32 pm
Quote from: sam on December 15, 2006, 01:43:31 pm
Quote from: BigBen7 on December 15, 2006, 01:36:49 pm
I also don't want to fart in a can pub. 

I want to fart on a republican. 
Sam I beleive the proper word is flatulate on this very respectable board. You could get slapped for that by a moderator.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: gmac on December 15, 2006, 07:09:11 pm
warren needs to get some of them 1st loser rings for this year
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: BringbckSingletary on December 15, 2006, 08:08:58 pm
Quote from: Super Scrapper on December 14, 2006, 11:23:30 pm
Quote from: The critic on December 14, 2006, 11:17:01 pm
Warren has nothing else to prove.  They have already beat them once, why beat them again.

You weren't paying attention...Warren got beat, Nashville is 14 -  0 ...SS

Go Scrappers
  ;D

Were you the referee on the field?  I think you are, because obviously you weren't paying attention when jay wright crossed the line 3 feet into the endzone, then fumbled and recovered further into the endzone.  But anyways to each his own.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: ljackfan100 on December 15, 2006, 08:54:44 pm
This comment from those who have bragged about your class???
Tacky.  And check your grammar.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: OldScrap on December 15, 2006, 08:55:13 pm
Quote from: BringbckSingletary on December 15, 2006, 08:08:58 pm
Quote from: Super Scrapper on December 14, 2006, 11:23:30 pm
Quote from: The critic on December 14, 2006, 11:17:01 pm
Warren has nothing else to prove.  They have already beat them once, why beat them again.

You weren't paying attention...Warren got beat, Nashville is 14 -  0 ...SS

Go Scrappers
   ;D

Were you the referee on the field?  I think you are, because obviously you weren't paying attention when jay wright crossed the line 3 feet into the endzone, then fumbled and recovered further into the endzone.  But anyways to each his own.

Here you are saying he was 3 feet in the end zone and he did not even cross the goal line! In fact he couldn't even reach the goal line with his hand. Your credibility is fully blown.

Although I will give him credit for trying to fool the referee by trying to stick the football over the goal line when his knee was already on the ground, but it didn't work this time, the referee saw his knee on the ground.

Isn't trying to stick the ball over the goal line when your already down the same as trying to cheat your opponent out of the win?  That is not nice!
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: ljackfan100 on December 15, 2006, 09:26:28 pm
Give up, everybody.  OS is CONVINCED.    Right or Wrong, the guy is CONVINCED.  A phrase my grandma used to say "it's like talkin' to a brick wall" comes to mind. Again , I'd refer him to the east lab video, but he's CONVINCED.   But it wasn't 3 feet.  Over the line, in the end zone, yes.  But by more like a foot when his elbow touched the ground as he dove. We don't have to exaggerate it to 3 feet.  3 inches or 3 feet is the same. Either ='s good 2 pt. conv.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Super Scrapper on December 15, 2006, 10:44:42 pm
Quote from: ljackfan100 on December 15, 2006, 09:26:28 pm
Give up, everybody.  OS is CONVINCED.    Right or Wrong, the guy is CONVINCED.  A phrase my grandma used to say "it's like talkin' to a brick wall" comes to mind. Again , I'd refer him to the east lab video, but he's CONVINCED.   But it wasn't 3 feet.  Over the line, in the end zone, yes.  But by more like a foot when his elbow touched the ground as he dove. We don't have to exaggerate it to 3 feet.  3 inches or 3 feet is the same. Either ='s good 2 pt. conv.

That video is not proof of anything...  The ref was on top of the play and saw it good.  Why don't you believe him, b/c he didn't call it your way that's why.  The right call was made and the Scrappers won.  That's it...SS

Go Scrappers
   ;D
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: butamare1 on December 15, 2006, 10:48:46 pm
Not your fault but FAKE title
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: mudslog on December 15, 2006, 10:51:36 pm
His knee bounced off the one yard line.   I didnt stay down but it did bounce.  Look at it again from the start of the play.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: seark66 on December 15, 2006, 10:54:33 pm
Quote from: mudslog on December 15, 2006, 10:51:36 pm
His knee bounced off the one yard line.   I didnt stay down but it did bounce.  Look at it again from the start of the play.

Which would be irrelevent because the ball had crossed the plane.

At this point in time, all of this is irrelevent. People now what occured at the game and will make their own judgements based off of it. I saw the replay again on Channel 4 tonight. They were a day late and a dollar short, but they did show it.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: OldScrap on December 15, 2006, 11:02:33 pm
Quote from: ljackfan100 on December 15, 2006, 09:26:28 pm
Give up, everybody.  OS is CONVINCED.    Right or Wrong, the guy is CONVINCED.  A phrase my grandma used to say "it's like talkin' to a brick wall" comes to mind. Again , I'd refer him to the east lab video, but he's CONVINCED.   But it wasn't 3 feet.  Over the line, in the end zone, yes.  But by more like a foot when his elbow touched the ground as he dove. We don't have to exaggerate it to 3 feet.  3 inches or 3 feet is the same. Either ='s good 2 pt. conv.

I refer you to the referee, his call is the only one that counts, and he called him down, no conversion, no 2 points for the Warren Lumberjacks, Nashville wins because the Warren Lumberjack filed to score in the 2nd overtime, score Nashville Scrappers 21, Warren Lumberjacks 20.

You can argue about till the cows come home, but his call will keep right on standing.

But I did have one Nashville fan that offered this opinion that I will pass along.

If the Warren Lumberjacks had of gone for the extra point they would have got it and tied the game, he felt probably in the 3rd overtime Nashville would have failed to score but the Warren Lumberjacks would have scored and been the winner. He stated Warrens coach was silly for having gone for 2 point, especially having not made it.

Of course if he had really made it he would be the hero of Warren right now.

Its sad, blaming the referee instead of the coach who made the call.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: ljackfan100 on December 15, 2006, 11:42:06 pm
Well, for the first time in 3 days, I've read a new theory.  Silly Bo didn't know how to coach.  Well, Bo Hembrey is recieving emails and letters every day complimenting and congratulating him on another great season and the way he has handled the controversy, which began on the WMS field.  A few Warren players threw their helments down and Bo got got all over them about it and told them to behave as gentlemen. And at the awards banquet in LR Mon. night one coach told Bo considering what happened he wouldn't have accepted the runner-up trophy.   Another said he'd have accepted it, then drop-kicked it.  Over and over he was told by other coaches that they' have gone for 2 also. Time after time he has been complemented on the way he's handled all this mess.  How can it be that the silly guy has done so well these last 6 years? No one listens to the drug store quarterbacks.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Super Scrapper on December 16, 2006, 12:08:49 am
Quote from: ljackfan100 on December 15, 2006, 11:42:06 pm
Well, for the first time in 3 days, I've read a new theory.  Silly Bo didn't know how to coach.  Well, Bo Hembrey is recieving emails and letters every day complimenting and congratulating him on another great season and the way he has handled the controversy, which began on the WMS field.  A few Warren players threw their helments down and Bo got got all over them about it and told them to behave as gentlemen. And at the awards banquet in LR Mon. night one coach told Bo considering what happened he wouldn't have accepted the runner-up trophy.   Another said he'd have accepted it, then drop-kicked it.  Over and over he was told by other coaches that they' have gone for 2 also. Time after time he has been complemented on the way he's handled all this mess.  How can it be that the silly guy has done so well these last 6 years? No one listens to the drug store quarterbacks.

This post illustrates just how great a LumberJack fan you really are "NOT"...You don't even know how to spell your coaches name...What an idiot...Go get "educamated"  then come talk to us....What a jerk...SS

Go Scrappers
     ;D
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: butamare1 on December 16, 2006, 12:15:43 am
You honestly don't no your a proud owner of a FAKE title.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: ljackfan100 on December 16, 2006, 12:18:35 am
SS: 
Man, I'm glad that was so good to you! I can picture you jumpin' around your room in delight. There again, can't debate the content so jump to spell check.  I can spell but can't type.  At least my mother taugh me not to stoop to name-calling. Hey and you better whatch out, Santa's maling his list and checking it twice.  Name-calling's naughty.  Verry naughty.

Going to bed now,
Jerk
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Super Scrapper on December 16, 2006, 12:29:32 am
Quote from: butamare1 on December 16, 2006, 12:15:43 am
You honestly don't no your a proud owner of a FAKE title.

I know for a fact that we are not...We earned it.  The call was right....SS

Quote from: ljackfan100 on December 16, 2006, 12:18:35 am
SS:  
Man, I'm glad that was so good to you! I can picture you jumpin' around your room in delight. There again, can't debate the content so jump to spell check.  I can spell but can't type.  At least my mother taugh me not to stoop to name-calling. Hey and you better whatch out, Santa's maling his list and checking it twice.  Name-calling's naughty.  Verry naughty.

Going to bed now,
Jerk



You might ought to check your other posts before saying too much...You have already laid out a lot of crap....SS

Go Scrappers  
     ;D
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Sensitive on December 16, 2006, 12:39:33 am
Someone must have a special interest in this thread disapearing.  It keeps moving several pages back even though it has been posted on today.  Super Scrapper says I am a liar and/or a fool for saying that it does, but the thread "miraculously" moves to page 6 or so every once in a while.  Maybe transplant really does have a SSSC.  
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: ljackfan100 on December 16, 2006, 12:40:24 am
I've had  substantive content; didn't have to stoop to name-calling.  This sounds a lot like a fuss I got into with my 14 year old nephew, only it was on a different subject. I tired of the effort with him, and I'm tired of the effort with you, so adios.  You can have the last word, but it'll be of no importance to anyone other than you self,  Have fun.

And good-bye,
Jerk
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: FootballGuy43 on December 16, 2006, 12:45:46 am
This is about as fun as watching wallpaper dry...

please, enough with the bickering and act like adults here...
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: FootballGuy43 on December 16, 2006, 12:47:44 am
Transplant has his mysterious ways...he is abusing them.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Super Scrapper on December 16, 2006, 12:51:15 am
Quote from: ljackfan100 on December 16, 2006, 12:40:24 am
I've had  substantive content; didn't have to stoop to name-calling.  This sounds a lot like a fuss I got into with my 14 year old nephew, only it was on a different subject. I tired of the effort with him, and I'm tired of the effort with you, so adios.  You can have the last word, but it'll be of no importance to anyone other than you self,  Have fun.

And good-bye,
Jerk

I've yet to see any "Substantive Content" .... All I've seen is petty jealousy and bickering with Nashville fans that you say you have nothing against.  You say it isn't our fault, well it is, we won.  Plain and simple, the call was made and there was not and will not be a change.  There is no reason for one.  You make fun of our people and then act like I'm a bad guy for calling you a name?  Get a life.   You deserve it....I was simply showing how smart you are not.....SS

Go Scrappers
   ;D
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Super Scrapper on December 16, 2006, 01:12:50 am
I find it truly amazing how you (Bleachermom) and NLS manage to bring the "Multiplier" into almost any thread and ruin them at will.  And you Bleachermom had promised not to do that except on the "Multiplier" thread if I remember correctly?  Is your word good or not?  SS


Go Scrappers
     ;D
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: jackfan1™ on December 16, 2006, 07:28:02 am
Quote from: Super Scrapper on December 16, 2006, 01:12:50 am
I find it truly amazing how you (Bleachermom) and NLS manage to bring the "Multiplier" into almost any thread and ruin them at will.  And you Bleachermom had promised not to do that except on the "Multiplier" thread if I remember correctly?  Is your word good or not?  SS


Go Scrappers
     ;D

Well gee, let me imitate a scrapper when confronted with an issue they don't agree with......."GET OVER IT!", "STOP WHINING!"

sound familiar?
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Implant Guy on December 16, 2006, 08:32:23 am
jackfan, it has been a week now.  Your team lost.  Get back to life, whatever that may be.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: jackfan1™ on December 16, 2006, 09:27:13 am
Quote from: Implant Guy on December 16, 2006, 08:32:23 am
jackfan, it has been a week now.  Your team lost.  Get back to life, whatever that may be.

I AM over it...sad thing is, the scrappers still feel llike they have to defend their "title". If it is so clear cut, then why all the continued posturing and defensive wah-wah'ing on their part?

BTW, get back to your OWN life as I don't recall rattling YOUR chain. ::)
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Garo on December 16, 2006, 09:32:31 am
Why do you continue bringing it up on every thread on these boards if you don't want it defended??  Without an attack, there is no reason to defend.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: jackfan1™ on December 16, 2006, 09:48:43 am
Quote from: Garo on December 16, 2006, 09:32:31 am
Why do you continue bringing it up on every thread on these boards if you don't want it defended??  Without an attack, there is no reason to defend.

Excuse me...I have NOT brought it up on every thread. Don't exaggerate in an attempt to make a weak point.
I am sorry you and your cronies feel so "attacked". I will try to remember not to say anything that will step on your sensitive little feelings. ::)
For clarity, I was  making a POINT. It is funny how defensive Nashville gets in regard to the multiplier controversy and they want everyone to buy into their argument. At the same time, they are telling Warren to "get over it", "move on", "stop whining".
Take your own advice.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: ljackfan100 on December 16, 2006, 10:02:25 am
Good post, jackfan1.  I've noticed you have to really break it down for them.  One constant I've noticed  in these board posts is that they miss the point most of the time.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Sensitive on December 16, 2006, 10:16:37 am
Quote from: Super Scrapper on December 16, 2006, 01:12:50 am
I find it truly amazing how you (Bleachermom) and NLS manage to bring the "Multiplier" into almost any thread and ruin them at will.  And you Bleachermom had promised not to do that except on the "Multiplier" thread if I remember correctly?  Is your word good or not?  SS


Go Scrappers
     ;D

Excuse me, genius, but I started this thread.  I realize that you think every thread should be about praising the all mighty Scrappers, but before you bash people for changing the topic and ruining the thread maybe you should read just a little bit. 

The "Multiplier" thread was locked.  So I assume that means that Bleachermom could no longer explain why her school was shafted so yours could stay in a lower classification. 

News flash!  The world does not revolve around Nashville Arkansas football.  Other people have opinions.  Just because you don't agree with them does not mean they are any less significant.  In fact, that might lend them additional credence.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: ljackfan100 on December 16, 2006, 10:35:40 am
SNL, they just don't get it.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Super Scrapper on December 16, 2006, 12:58:48 pm
Yeah, it was locked for a reason...and other threads have been deleted for being ruined by such posts.  There is no need to post about a dead subject on threads that have nothing to do with that subject.  

SNL, is pretty good, "Saturday Night Live"  is about where you belong ....That's  how serious some of this crap is being taken.....SS

Go Scrappers
  ;D
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: FootballGuy43 on December 16, 2006, 01:44:35 pm
Warren and Nashville fans bickering...do I smell a new rivalry forming?
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Sensitive on December 16, 2006, 01:48:44 pm
Quote from: Super Scrapper on December 16, 2006, 12:58:48 pm
Yeah, it was locked for a reason...and other threads have been deleted for being ruined by such posts.  There is no need to post about a dead subject on threads that have nothing to do with that subject.   

SNL, is pretty good, "Saturday Night Live"  is about where you belong ....That's  how serious some of this crap is being taken.....SS

Go Scrappers
  ;D

I won't stoop to your level and start the name calling (dense would be an adjective that comes to mind), but would you PLEASE read before you post. 

This thread DOES deal with the subject that for some reason is a burr under your saddle.  If you don't want to read reasoned responses, then just stick to the "Nashville belongs in the SEC" type rah-rah that you enjoy.  Since you seem to be the authority on what "ruins" threads, why don't you start your own board and then you can be the king of your own little domain?
 
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Bleachermom on December 16, 2006, 02:13:58 pm
Quote from: Super Scrapper on December 16, 2006, 01:12:50 am
I find it truly amazing how you (Bleachermom) and NLS manage to bring the "Multiplier" into almost any thread and ruin them at will.  And you Bleachermom had promised not to do that except on the "Multiplier" thread if I remember correctly?  Is your word good or not?  SS
Go Scrappers
     ;D


"I find it truly amazing" that SS always resorts to attacks on folks' integrity when he cannot generate a reply based on any form of reason or fact to points made by others.

1) The multiplier thread has been locked, and I've told you that I will not be silent on this issue. I stuck to the Multiplier thread, however, when other folks make relevant comments on other threads, I will not ignore incorrect or misleading information about the multiplier, or the real reason that it was proposed.
2) I never "start" anything. I only reply to points others make that I believe to be incorrect or with which I disagree.
3) As NLS pointed out...he started the thread about the feelings of those who were subjected to the increased multiplier.
4) You can review my last 25 posts as easily as I, but I'll summarize for you.

  • 6 Posts on this thread
  • 12 Posts on various threads on the last play of the Nashville/Warren game in most of which I was disagreeing with those who would say that Nashville's State Title was in any way diminished by a call that may or may not have been blown.
  • 4 Posts on a thread on the 3A board which I did not start about the multiplier.
  • 3 Posts on threads about various other topics none mentioning the multiplier.

Now, back to my question which you have not yet answered after reading the Code of Ethics of the AAA Board of Directors: So, do you think that, "Even if he wanted the private schools out to keep Nashville in a lower class, it had nothing to do with them beating us."...represents an ethical position?





Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: FootballGuy43 on December 16, 2006, 02:21:50 pm
Quote from: Bleachermom on December 16, 2006, 02:13:58 pm
Quote from: Super Scrapper on December 16, 2006, 01:12:50 am
I find it truly amazing how you (Bleachermom) and NLS manage to bring the "Multiplier" into almost any thread and ruin them at will.  And you Bleachermom had promised not to do that except on the "Multiplier" thread if I remember correctly?  Is your word good or not?  SS
Go Scrappers
     ;D


"I find it truly amazing" that SS always resorts to attacks on folks integrity when he cannot generate a reply based on any form of reason or fact to points made by others.

1) The multiplier thread has been locked, and I've told you that I will not be silent on this issue.
2) I never "start" anything. I only reply to points others make that I believe to be incorrect or with which I disagree.
3) As NLS pointed out...he started the thread about the feelings of those who were subjected to the increased multiplier.
4) You can review my last 25 posts as easily as I, but I'll summarize for you.


SS is out of control...he needs to get a clear head and make a post about the game instead of something irrelevant such as the multiplier issue...
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: FootballGuy43 on December 16, 2006, 02:23:14 pm
Quote from: gmac on December 15, 2006, 07:09:11 pm
warren needs to get some 1st loser rings for this year

There...I corrected that for you.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: ljackfan100 on December 16, 2006, 02:36:49 pm
Amen!  As he continually resorts to name-calling and personal insults, I'm reminded of my nephew who is a foot-stomping, ill-behaved, unbearable little darlin'.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: FootballGuy43 on December 16, 2006, 02:40:47 pm
Quote from: ljackfan100 on December 16, 2006, 02:36:49 pm
Amen!  As he continually resorts to name-calling and personal insults, I'm reminded of my nephew who is a foot-stomping, ill-behaved, unbearable little darlin'.

A lot of people on this board are like that...believe me
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Bleachermom on December 16, 2006, 03:50:34 pm
Strange stuff. I found this thread on page 3 of the 4A board just now. The "last post" shown was on Dec. 12, yet when I clicked on the thread , Big Ben7's quote of Today at 02:36:49 PM was on here. Looks like this thread is in camouflage.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: transplant on December 16, 2006, 03:53:54 pm
I did it...it was supposed to go to page six.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Super Scrapper on December 16, 2006, 04:04:19 pm
Quote from: transplant on December 16, 2006, 03:53:54 pm
I did it...it was supposed to go to page six.

SSSC made a mistake, someone is in trouble...  That will be corrected.  I hope the thread is deleted like it should be.  All of this "Multiplier" talk is ridiculous b/c it is a dead subject.

You seem so consumed by what our Superintendent thinks and believes so I guess I'll have to call him again since it is obvious that you will not.   

I  think the ones that are out of control are the ones with the delusional attitudes about how they got cheated in the Championship game or by an increased Multiplier and keep throwing crap out about those subjects on every thread they can....SS

Go Scrappers
    ;D
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: butamare1 on December 16, 2006, 04:07:41 pm
Will this topic ever die ?
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Jack1990 on December 16, 2006, 04:13:03 pm
How have you been butamare1?  Been a long time since we met at the Warren/Clinton game.  Hope to meet ya'll again in the playoffs in '07.  Thanks for being open minded about the ending of the State Championship Game!  Go Jacks
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Bleachermom on December 16, 2006, 05:17:30 pm
Quote from: Super Scrapper on December 16, 2006, 04:04:19 pm
Quote from: transplant on December 16, 2006, 03:53:54 pm
I did it...it was supposed to go to page six.

SSSC made a mistake, someone is in trouble...  That will be corrected.  I hope the thread is deleted like it should be.  All of this "Multiplier" talk is ridiculous b/c it is a dead subject.

You seem so consumed by what our Superintendent thinks and believes so I guess I'll have to call him again since it is obvious that you will not.  

I  think the ones that are out of control are the ones with the delusional attitudes about how they got cheated in the Championship game or by an increased Multiplier and keep throwing crap out about those subjects on every thread they can....SS

Go Scrappers
    ;D

Still avoiding legitimate questions about ethics?
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: OldScrap on December 16, 2006, 06:17:35 pm
If, if these topics died, them we would not have nothing to talk about till football season 2007.

Recon we can solve all the problems by that time?

I don't think most of it is name calling, more like trash talk, football smack, and seems like most everyone gets into that just a bit in the heat of the moments. Some just more passionate than others.

I can see why some of our folks here at Nashville get very defensive, for so much is being blamed on them, the multiplier, who plays who, who got the trophy, when all we are doing is abiding by the rules of the AAA that some seem  not like and would love to throw out the rules and or changed all the rules at the moment they don't please them, like at the end of the state play off game at Little Rock. They're just like a bunch of young kids playing on the school grounds when things do not go their way.

But for some, there is always going to be some kind of an excuse when they lose, we've seen many of them since the end of the game last Saturday night.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: jackfan1™ on December 16, 2006, 06:57:01 pm
Quote from: OldScrap on December 16, 2006, 06:17:35 pm
But for some, there is always going to be some kind of an excuse when they lose, we've seen many of them since the end of the game last Saturday night.

There have been no excuses. From every post I have read on both sides, the majority realizes and states that BOTH teams are capable of better performances than they gave that night.
Feeling outrage over a blown call which cost a team the biggest game of the season is not an excuse.......it is just what it is.

Don't even try to convince anyone that Nashville is above the same feeling if the shoe were on the other foot.
I wasn't born yesterday and from all the back-patting and bragging we've endured the whole year about the scrappers being the best team to ever don pads, I know without a doubt the Warren posters were but a drop in the bucket from what we would have heard out of them...ad infinitum  naueasm.
Lucky for you that the blown call was on us. Lucky for us that we don't have to listen to YOU.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Bleachermom on December 16, 2006, 09:22:56 pm
Bump. I'm becoming fascinated with how quickly this thread gets moved several pages back. Too much truth here for someone?
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Bleachermom on December 16, 2006, 10:24:47 pm
Quote from: OldScrap on December 16, 2006, 06:17:35 pm
I can see why some of our folks here at Nashville get very defensive, for so much is being blamed on them, the multiplier, who plays who, who got the trophy, when all we are doing is abiding by the rules of the AAA that some seem  not like and would love to throw out the rules and or changed all the rules at the moment they don't please them, like at the end of the state play off game at Little Rock. They're just like a bunch of young kids playing on the school grounds when things do not go their way.
The only significant rule change of the past year was proposed and promoted by the Nashville AD and had the potential to benefit Nashville significantly.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Implant Guy on December 16, 2006, 10:52:59 pm
Quote from: jackfan1 on December 16, 2006, 09:27:13 am
Quote from: Implant Guy on December 16, 2006, 08:32:23 am
jackfan, it has been a week now.  Your team lost.  Get back to life, whatever that may be.

I AM over it...sad thing is, the scrappers still feel llike they have to defend their "title". If it is so clear cut, then why all the continued posturing and defensive wah-wah'ing on their part?

BTW, get back to your OWN life as I don't recall rattling YOUR chain. ::)

Anytime you post on a public website, you are yanking someone's chain.  Do you actually think that I am going to sit here and wait until you make a comment directly at me.  If you really think that, I would suggest you seek counseling. 
And another thing, if people like you would not keep attacking the fact that Nashville won the game, nobody would be saying anything about the title at this late of a date.  By the way, just in case you forgot, your team lost last Saturday night.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Sensitive on December 16, 2006, 11:04:16 pm
Quote from: Super Scrapper on December 16, 2006, 04:04:19 pm
Quote from: transplant on December 16, 2006, 03:53:54 pm
I did it...it was supposed to go to page six.

SSSC made a mistake, someone is in trouble...  That will be corrected.  I hope the thread is deleted like it should be...

Apparently in your view any thread that does not begin, "In the beginning were the Scrappers, and without them the earth was void and full of darkness..." should be deleted.  This may come as a surprise to you, but not everyone would agree.

Quote from: Super Scrapper on December 16, 2006, 04:04:19 pm

You seem so consumed by what our Superintendent thinks and believes so I guess I'll have to call him again since it is obvious that you will not.   
 

We know what your superintendent thinks.  He was perfectly willing to tell everyone who would listen how those evil private schools should be punished for having the audacity to win some of the public schools' state championships.

Quote from: Super Scrapper on December 16, 2006, 04:04:19 pm

I  think the ones that are out of control are the ones with the delusional attitudes about how they got cheated in the Championship game or by an increased Multiplier...


Apparently you think there are many delusional fans out here in Fearless Land.  However, if agreeing with you is what it takes to be reasonable, we will just stay "out of control."

Quote from: Super Scrapper on December 16, 2006, 04:04:19 pm

...and keep throwing crap out about those subjects on every thread they can....

Not on every thread.  Just on this one I started (when I can find it since apparently some people are determined to keep people from finding it).  If you don't like it, don't read it.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Super Scrapper on December 16, 2006, 11:22:47 pm
Oh, I like it...It's the best comedy I seen in a while.  Anyone that believes all of the garbage you and BM are putting on here is really a nutcase.  No one AAA director can run the AAA believe it or not.  Does he like private schools?  I really don't know?  I'll add that to my list of questions?  If he reads this board, I'm sure he doesn't care for you anymore than you do him.  Would that surprise anyone?  However, that wouldn't affect the kids at CAC, HA or any other private school. 

Speaking of "Ethics"...I am beginning to think you don't know what they are so I won't discuss that topic with you.  You attack individuals on the board after being instructed not to and based on speculation.  SS

Go Scrappers
   ;D
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: arthurhawgerelli on December 17, 2006, 12:13:15 am
Since nothing can or will be done about it, and since there about eleventy hundred different threads on the first 3 pages, I will take about 30 minutes of my life and waste it in merging them all.

Feel free to post new and unique points of views, but starting a new thread will do you no good.  I'll not move it, I or one of my esteemed colleauges will just make it disappear.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: jackfan1™ on December 17, 2006, 06:28:18 am
Quote from: Implant Guy on December 16, 2006, 10:52:59 pm
Quote from: jackfan1 on December 16, 2006, 09:27:13 am
Quote from: Implant Guy on December 16, 2006, 08:32:23 am
jackfan, it has been a week now.  Your team lost.  Get back to life, whatever that may be.

I AM over it...sad thing is, the scrappers still feel llike they have to defend their "title". If it is so clear cut, then why all the continued posturing and defensive wah-wah'ing on their part?

BTW, get back to your OWN life as I don't recall rattling YOUR chain. ::)

Anytime you post on a public website, you are yanking someone's chain.  Do you actually think that I am going to sit here and wait until you make a comment directly at me.  If you really think that, I would suggest you seek counseling. 
And another thing, if people like you would not keep attacking the fact that Nashville won the game, nobody would be saying anything about the title at this late of a date.  By the way, just in case you forgot, your team lost last Saturday night.

Oh my, whatever will I do? I need counseling because a little boy bully hurt my feelings on a high school message board! :o

Do you SEE how dramatic and over-reactive you are?

Jeez, talk about junior high mentality!  ::) Notice my avatar? It is to remind folks how silly they can get. I will gladly let you wear it since you have earned the title of "Drama Queen".

Grow up and stop hinging your life on a high school sport. You react because you place so much importance on being right. If you have to jump on every one who posts anything you don't like, you have a sad little life. Like I said, I didn't rattle your chain....you reacted because you cannot help yourself. Sad.....
Now shhhhhh. It will be okay. Go hug your trophy and rock yourself to sleep.
Title: Re: JUST GOT THROUGH WATCHING FILM AT WARREN FIELDHOUSE
Post by: scrappergirl_jjh on December 17, 2006, 08:09:04 am
Quote from: cowboy391 on December 10, 2006, 12:36:55 am
i love it you didn't win so now you're looking for excuses... someone stole it from us...
why is it no one can ever just say we lost ...it always has to be someone else's fault.


seriousley!so many scrappers have been saying that warren is just jealous because this is nashvilles 2 state title in a row!
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Bleachermom on December 17, 2006, 01:10:50 pm
Quote from: Super Scrapper on December 16, 2006, 11:22:47 pm
Oh, I like it...It's the best comedy I seen in a while.  Anyone that believes all of the garbage you and BM are putting on here is really a nutcase.  No one AAA director can run the AAA believe it or not.  Does he like private schools?  I really don't know?  I'll add that to my list of questions?  If he reads this board, I'm sure he doesn't care for you anymore than you do him.  Would that surprise anyone?  However, that wouldn't affect the kids at CAC, HA or any other private school. 

Speaking of "Ethics"...I am beginning to think you don't know what they are so I won't discuss that topic with you.  You attack individuals on the board after being instructed not to and based on speculation.  SS

Go Scrappers
   ;D

No one ever said any one person "runs" the AAA. I did say that I believe one or two people "used" the system to manipulate the AAA to accomplish the goal of positioning the school(s) which employ them to be among the largest schools in their classification. I doubt that the promoter of the increased multiplier particularly likes or dislikes private schools. He simply identified an easy mark to accomplish his goal. The private schools were simply "there" when he needed them. He could use hyperbole and jealousy to whip up a vote and politick the voting process to "get them out of 3A" thus insuring his school's dominance at the top of the new 4A.

I see you've adopted a strategy or two from that process. Just call others opinions and facts "garbage" and identify anyone who agrees with them as "nutcases", don't offer a shred of reasoning for your position...stick with emotion, ignore any unfair results, make accusations about "rules" violations, then sit back and enjoy the fruits of your work. Finally, not discussing ethics? Typical. So very typical. When you have no reasoned, factual response to a question, it becomes "off limits"...just as you would like for the entire increased multiplier subject to be. As for "attacking" anyone. I simply stated what he actually did and bragged about. I also stated my opinion based on reason and information that I have received about why he undertook the task of increasing the multiplier. Actually, he did "attack" private schools with the mantra...they "win too many championships." while quietly ignoring the facts of how many championships Nashville has won...and according to you will win next year.  Food for thought for the members of 4A if and when the multiplier issue is raised again.


Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Sensitive on December 17, 2006, 01:46:23 pm
Quote from: Super Scrapper on December 16, 2006, 11:22:47 pm
Oh, I like it...It's the best comedy I seen in a while. 
Go Scrappers
 

Then perhaps you should step away from the computer for a couple of minutes.  It is obvious that you don't get out much.
Quote from: Super Scrapper on December 16, 2006, 11:22:47 pm
Anyone that believes all of the garbage you and BM are putting on here is really a nutcase. 


Brilliant!  You cannot reason with the arguments being put forward, so you resort to name calling.   
Quote from: Super Scrapper on December 16, 2006, 11:22:47 pm
No one AAA director can run the AAA believe it or not.

No one gave him that much credit.  However, this one man carried out an orchestrated campaign to increase the multiplier and he was successful.  You should be proud of him instead of making excuses for him!  After all, he did this all for your beloved Scrappers!
Quote from: Super Scrapper on December 16, 2006, 11:22:47 pm
Does he like private schools?  I really don't know?  I'll add that to my list of questions?

Don't bother, I can assure you that the private school supporters could not possibly care less one way or the other.  It may come as a surprise to you, but I have no reason to think that your beloved Mr. Graham has any ill will towards private schools.  If it would have served his purpose and he thought he could have kept Nashville in a smaller classification he might have tried multiplying the enrollment of schools that didn't wear orange helmets.  It was the end he was concerned with.  It didn't matter who received the collateral damage.
Quote from: Super Scrapper on December 16, 2006, 11:22:47 pm
I'm sure he doesn't care for you anymore than you do him. 

Actually, we have met several times and he seems like a very pleasant gentleman.  As I have said, he was trying to serve the people who pay his salary.  I am sorry that it offends you that those of us who were thrown under the bus are not exactly thrilled with his success.
Quote from: Super Scrapper on December 16, 2006, 11:22:47 pm
However, that wouldn't affect the kids at CAC, HA or any other private school.  Go Scrappers

Whether he likes us or not wouldn't, but what he successfully promoted certainly does.
Quote from: Super Scrapper on December 16, 2006, 11:22:47 pm

Speaking of "Ethics"...I am beginning to think you don't know what they are so I won't discuss that topic with you.  You attack individuals on the board after being instructed not to and based on speculation. 


You won't discuss ethics because you don't have a clue what you are talking about.  Oh wait, that never stopped you before.  Nevermind!  If truthfully stating what someone did is an attack, then I am guilty.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Super Scrapper on December 17, 2006, 02:07:58 pm
***YAWN***

Beat that "DEAD HORSE" all you can.....SS

Go Scrappers
;D
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: tradition on December 17, 2006, 02:14:11 pm
Quote from: No Longer Sensitive on December 17, 2006, 01:46:23 pm
Quote from: Super Scrapper on December 16, 2006, 11:22:47 pm
Oh, I like it...It's the best comedy I seen in a while. 
Go Scrappers
 

Then perhaps you should step away from the computer for a couple of minutes.  It is obvious that you don't get out much.
Quote from: Super Scrapper on December 16, 2006, 11:22:47 pm
Anyone that believes all of the garbage you and BM are putting on here is really a nutcase. 


Brilliant!  You cannot reason with the arguments being put forward, so you resort to name calling.   
Quote from: Super Scrapper on December 16, 2006, 11:22:47 pm
No one AAA director can run the AAA believe it or not.

No one gave him that much credit.  However, this one man carried out an orchestrated campaign to increase the multiplier and he was successful.  You should be proud of him instead of making excuses for him!  After all, he did this all for your beloved Scrappers!
Quote from: Super Scrapper on December 16, 2006, 11:22:47 pm
Does he like private schools?  I really don't know?  I'll add that to my list of questions?

Don't bother, I can assure you that the private school supporters could not possibly care less one way or the other.  It may come as a surprise to you, but I have no reason to think that your beloved Mr. Graham has any ill will towards private schools.  If it would have served his purpose and he thought he could have kept Nashville in a smaller classification he might have tried multiplying the enrollment of schools that didn't wear orange helmets.  It was the end he was concerned with.  It didn't matter who received the collateral damage.
Quote from: Super Scrapper on December 16, 2006, 11:22:47 pm
I'm sure he doesn't care for you anymore than you do him. 

Actually, we have met several times and he seems like a very pleasant gentleman.  As I have said, he was trying to serve the people who pay his salary.  I am sorry that it offends you that those of us who were thrown under the bus are not exactly thrilled with his success.
Quote from: Super Scrapper on December 16, 2006, 11:22:47 pm
However, that wouldn't affect the kids at CAC, HA or any other private school.  Go Scrappers

Whether he likes us or not wouldn't, but what he successfully promoted certainly does.
Quote from: Super Scrapper on December 16, 2006, 11:22:47 pm

Speaking of "Ethics"...I am beginning to think you don't know what they are so I won't discuss that topic with you.  You attack individuals on the board after being instructed not to and based on speculation. 


You won't discuss ethics because you don't have a clue what you are talking about.  Oh wait, that never stopped you before.  Nevermind!  If truthfully stating what someone did is an attack, then I am guilty.

Why is this an issue. Sure the ole AD at Nashville was the first to speak up, but you can rest assured many folks around the state were silently thanking him, because they didn't want to be the first.  You gotta love the way that a ton of people will openly criticize him for his haste in bringing this up, but are loving the fact he did it at the same time. The fact is that it was voted in by the AAA, not Doug Graham.  It amazes me how the loudest voice is often scapegoated, but the rest of the votes go unnoticed.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Super Scrapper on December 17, 2006, 02:18:46 pm
What a beautiful post...Someone knows what they are talking about...SS

Go Scrappers
  ;D :D ;) :) 8)
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Bleachermom on December 17, 2006, 03:56:23 pm
Quote from: Super Scrapper on December 17, 2006, 02:18:46 pm
What a beautiful post...Someone knows what they are talking about...SS

Go Scrappers
  ;D :D ;) :) 8)

All he knows is that his beloved Scrappers are at the top of the heap.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Super Scrapper on December 17, 2006, 05:01:16 pm
Quote from: Bleachermom on December 17, 2006, 03:56:23 pm
Quote from: Super Scrapper on December 17, 2006, 02:18:46 pm
What a beautiful post...Someone knows what they are talking about...SS

Go Scrappers
  ;D :D ;) :) 8)

All he knows is that his beloved Scrappers are at the top of the heap.

No, that's not all I know...I know you are acting very "Crabby"..Don't you have some "Beloved" whatevers over at HA that you like to follow and brag on a lot??  SS

Go Scrappers
   ;D
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: tainted gold on December 17, 2006, 06:43:22 pm
TAINTED GOLD
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Super Scrapper on December 17, 2006, 07:57:37 pm
Quote from: tainted gold on December 17, 2006, 06:43:22 pm
TAINTED GOLD

That is certainly what Warren has if they think they deserve any part of Nashville's "Championship"....SS

Go Scrappers
  ;D
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: OldScrap on December 17, 2006, 08:20:51 pm
A picture use to be worth a thousand words, but no more, those days are gone forever. Pictures can no longer be trusted, they are very easily doctored up now days to make them seem to be what they are not. It is just amazing at what people can and will do to pictures now days.

These picture have not proved nothing.

I keep reading in the papers that the Nashville Scrappers are the 2006 State Champions, if that were not so it would not be in the papers so often.

The only thing that is tainted is the integrity of some of the posters character that have posted under this topic.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: fearless_footballer on December 17, 2006, 09:02:15 pm
Well Nashville did out play warren by far. And Nashville was the better team. But he was across that line!!! And 10 years from now it will always say nashville with their back to back championships but all you nashville fans will alway have that image in your mind knowing yall lost that game.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: scrapdawgof06 on December 17, 2006, 09:04:42 pm
Quote from: OldScrap on December 17, 2006, 08:20:51 pm
A picture use to be worth a thousand words, but no more, those days are gone forever. Pictures can no longer be trusted, they are very easily doctored up now days to make them seem to be what they are not. It is just amazing at what people can and will do to pictures now days.

These picture have not proved nothing.

This is true, I mean, they teach everyone who takes the multimedia classes how to use Adobe Photoshop and the like... it doesnt take much to move lines around and stuff... pic of a player going up for a pass last year (2005 State Championship)  I made it look like he was in the endzone... and i certainly wasn't the best in that class... i was mediocre compared to some... but my pic that i did like that... was flawless... only way to see my changes were to change it to a negative.

Scrapdawg

Go Scrappers!
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Scrapper Slapper on December 17, 2006, 09:14:28 pm
Quote from: tradition on December 17, 2006, 02:14:11 pm

Why is this an issue. Sure the ole AD at Nashville was the first to speak up, but you can rest assured many folks around the state were silently thanking him, because they didn't want to be the first.  You gotta love the way that a ton of people will openly criticize him for his haste in bringing this up, but are loving the fact he did it at the same time. The fact is that it was voted in by the AAA, not Doug Graham.  It amazes me how the loudest voice is often scapegoated, but the rest of the votes go unnoticed.

I think his contention is that "the old AD at Nashville" (now the superintendant) orchestrated this and convinced everyone else that it was for the benefit of all the public schools when in reality it was only a few at the top of the class that had much to gain.  Having all schools vote on an issue that only affected some classifications is one area where Bleachermom is crying foul.  Without the "loudest voice" this would never have flown.  Why not have your boy take a bow for accomplishing his goal instead of making excuses for him?
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Super Scrapper on December 17, 2006, 09:17:04 pm
Quote from: Moron Detector on December 17, 2006, 09:05:24 pm
Quote from: tradition on December 17, 2006, 02:14:11 pm

Why is this an issue. Sure the ole AD at Nashville was the first to speak up, but you can rest assured many folks around the state were silently thanking him, because they didn't want to be the first.  You gotta love the way that a ton of people will openly criticize him for his haste in bringing this up, but are loving the fact he did it at the same time. The fact is that it was voted in by the AAA, not Doug Graham.  It amazes me how the loudest voice is often scapegoated, but the rest of the votes go unnoticed.

I think his contention is that "the old AD at Nashville" (now the superintendant) orchestrated this and convinced everyone else that it was for the benefit of all the public schools when in reality it was only a few at the top of the class that had much to gain.  Having all schools vote on an issue that only affected some classifications is one area where Bleachermom is crying foul.  Without the "loudest voice" this would never have flown.  Why not have your boy take a bow for accomplishing his goal instead of making excuses for him?


He took his own bows last year when it passed and again this year when it was challenged.  There is no need for any of us to do it for him.  He believes strongly in the measure or he would not have proposed it in the beginning.   As he told me before it was not for any one school but for everyone.  You don't like it or believe him, take it up with him.  There is no need to argue with Nashville posters on the board.  I assure you he is not on FF, doesn't read FF and could care less what you have to say.  Simple fact is he did his job for his 75 school districts and they all seem pleased.  Evidently so do a majority of the others in the state....Bleachermom just has her panties in a wad again...she'll get over it....SS

Go Scrappers
   ;D
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Scrapper Slapper on December 17, 2006, 09:31:45 pm
Actually he did his job for one school district.  There wouldn't be an argument if you would stop being his stooge and kissing up for him on this board.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Super Scrapper on December 17, 2006, 09:37:24 pm
Quote from: Moron Detector on December 17, 2006, 09:31:45 pm
Actually he did his job for one school district.  There wouldn't be an argument if you would stop being his stooge and kissing up for him on this board.

See what a biased opinion you have...you're wrong again...SS

Go Scrappers
  ;)
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Scrapper Slapper on December 17, 2006, 09:39:53 pm
Quote from: Super Scrapper on December 17, 2006, 09:37:24 pm
Quote from: Moron Detector on December 17, 2006, 09:31:45 pm
Actually he did his job for one school district.  There wouldn't be an argument if you would stop being his stooge and kissing up for him on this board.

See what a biased opinion you have...you're wrong again...SS

Go Scrappers
  ;)
I am sorry that everyone can't be as open minded and unbiased as you.  (There is not an appropriate emoticon for this statement).
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Super Scrapper on December 17, 2006, 09:50:37 pm
Quote from: Moron Detector on December 17, 2006, 09:39:53 pm
Quote from: Super Scrapper on December 17, 2006, 09:37:24 pm
Quote from: Moron Detector on December 17, 2006, 09:31:45 pm
Actually he did his job for one school district.  There wouldn't be an argument if you would stop being his stooge and kissing up for him on this board.

See what a biased opinion you have...you're wrong again...SS

Go Scrappers
  ;)
I am sorry that everyone can't be as open minded and unbiased as you.  (There is not an appropriate emoticon for this statement).

You obviously can't.......You are too busy finding negative things to say about everyone.....SS

Go Scrappers
   :)
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Scrapper Slapper on December 17, 2006, 09:52:50 pm
Quote from: Super Scrapper on December 17, 2006, 09:50:37 pm
Quote from: Moron Detector on December 17, 2006, 09:39:53 pm
Quote from: Super Scrapper on December 17, 2006, 09:37:24 pm
Quote from: Moron Detector on December 17, 2006, 09:31:45 pm
Actually he did his job for one school district.  There wouldn't be an argument if you would stop being his stooge and kissing up for him on this board.

See what a biased opinion you have...you're wrong again...SS

Go Scrappers
  ;)
I am sorry that everyone can't be as open minded and unbiased as you.  (There is not an appropriate emoticon for this statement).

You obviously can't.......You are too busy finding negative things to say about everyone.....SS

Go Scrappers
   :)
Not everyone.  Just the ones who richly deserve it.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: OldScrap on December 17, 2006, 09:59:21 pm
Quote from: Moron Detector on December 17, 2006, 09:39:53 pm
Quote from: Super Scrapper on December 17, 2006, 09:37:24 pm
Quote from: Moron Detector on December 17, 2006, 09:31:45 pm
Actually he did his job for one school district.  There wouldn't be an argument if you would stop being his stooge and kissing up for him on this board.

See what a biased opinion you have...you're wrong again...SS

Go Scrappers
   ;)
I am sorry that everyone can't be as open minded and unbiased as you.  (There is not an appropriate emoticon for this statement).

It was presented to the AAA, the majority voted in favor of it, its history that you don't like, that's your privilege.

Seems you have a big problem with history, with rules, with authority, thus all you want to do is run down people when everything does not go your way.

There is a proper way to do everything, why not take that route for a change. Of course if it went against you once again, it would change nothing with you, you would probably just start running people down who disagree with once again, seems that is your way of life.







Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Scrapper Slapper on December 17, 2006, 10:02:52 pm
Quote from: OldScrap on December 17, 2006, 09:59:21 pm
Quote from: Moron Detector on December 17, 2006, 09:39:53 pm
Quote from: Super Scrapper on December 17, 2006, 09:37:24 pm
Quote from: Moron Detector on December 17, 2006, 09:31:45 pm
Actually he did his job for one school district.  There wouldn't be an argument if you would stop being his stooge and kissing up for him on this board.

See what a biased opinion you have...you're wrong again...SS

Go Scrappers
   ;)
I am sorry that everyone can't be as open minded and unbiased as you.  (There is not an appropriate emoticon for this statement).

It was presented to the AAA, the majority voted in favor of it, its history that you don't like, that's your privilege.

Seems you have a big problem with history, with rules, with authority, thus all you want to do is run down people when everything does not go your way.

There is a proper way to do everything, why not take that route for a change. Of course if it went against you once again, it would change nothing with you, you would probably just start running people down who disagree with once again, seems that is your way of life.









Is EVERYONE in Nashville blind?  Yes, I make fun of people who appear to be clueless on this board.  Yes, I know that there is a right way to get things done.  However just because your AD went through the right channels to pass the multiplier does not mean that the outcome was just.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Super Scrapper on December 17, 2006, 10:06:24 pm
Quote from: Moron Detector on December 17, 2006, 09:52:50 pm
Quote from: Super Scrapper on December 17, 2006, 09:50:37 pm
Quote from: Moron Detector on December 17, 2006, 09:39:53 pm
Quote from: Super Scrapper on December 17, 2006, 09:37:24 pm
Quote from: Moron Detector on December 17, 2006, 09:31:45 pm
Actually he did his job for one school district.  There wouldn't be an argument if you would stop being his stooge and kissing up for him on this board.

See what a biased opinion you have...you're wrong again...SS

Go Scrappers
  ;)
I am sorry that everyone can't be as open minded and unbiased as you.  (There is not an appropriate emoticon for this statement).

You obviously can't.......You are too busy finding negative things to say about everyone.....SS

Go Scrappers
   :)
Not everyone.  Just the ones who richly deserve it.

That is just your biased opionion.  Doesn't make it right.  You are nothing but a blow hard....SS

Go Scrappers
  :D
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Super Scrapper on December 17, 2006, 10:11:45 pm
Quote from: Moron Detector on December 17, 2006, 10:02:52 pm
Quote from: OldScrap on December 17, 2006, 09:59:21 pm
Quote from: Moron Detector on December 17, 2006, 09:39:53 pm
Quote from: Super Scrapper on December 17, 2006, 09:37:24 pm
Quote from: Moron Detector on December 17, 2006, 09:31:45 pm
Actually he did his job for one school district.  There wouldn't be an argument if you would stop being his stooge and kissing up for him on this board.

See what a biased opinion you have...you're wrong again...SS

Go Scrappers
   ;)
I am sorry that everyone can't be as open minded and unbiased as you.  (There is not an appropriate emoticon for this statement).

It was presented to the AAA, the majority voted in favor of it, its history that you don't like, that's your privilege.

Seems you have a big problem with history, with rules, with authority, thus all you want to do is run down people when everything does not go your way.

There is a proper way to do everything, why not take that route for a change. Of course if it went against you once again, it would change nothing with you, you would probably just start running people down who disagree with once again, seems that is your way of life.









Is EVERYONE in Nashville blind?  Yes, I make fun of people who appear to be clueless on this board.  Yes, I know that there is a right way to get things done.  However just because your AD went through the right channels to pass the multiplier does not mean that the outcome was just.

Oh look, everyone is out of step except our Johnny...How's that?  Is that, what you think?  Get a life...Go convince the majority and leave Nashville alone.  We only have 1 (ONE) vote.  When will  you "MORON DETECTORS" get that through your heads??   SS

Go Scrappers
  ;D
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Scrapper Slapper on December 17, 2006, 10:14:40 pm
If it had not been for your AD there would never have been a vote.  Yes I know it was suggested in another activity district.  I also know that he knew about that before it happened.  It was a grand plan.  It worked. 
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Super Scrapper on December 17, 2006, 10:32:38 pm
Quote from: Moron Detector on December 17, 2006, 10:14:40 pm
If it had not been for your AD there would never have been a vote.  Yes I know it was suggested in another activity district.  I also know that he knew about that before it happened.  It was a grand plan.  It worked.    

On that proposal, you are correct.  He admits that.  He also had a co-sponsor.  I'll admit he was the leader of the pack and was the most vocal.  That is what his district wanted and evidently what the state wanted.  It sure passed by a very large majorly.  Why don't you go to the AAA with another resolution instead of bothering the Nashville posters.  We can't change the ruling anymore than you....No one said that we all agree with it....However, all of these vicious attacks on our townspeople will make us band together and fight together....like it or not....SS

Go Scrappers
  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Scrapper Slapper on December 17, 2006, 10:37:19 pm
I am simply stating facts on a board.  Since you are obviously bothered by facts, ignore them.  I don't understand why you view stating facts as an attack?  The only person I have attacked from Nashville is you.  Before you get your panties in a wad over that one you might want to read back over all the names you have called me because I disagree with your myopic opinions.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Scrapper Slapper on December 17, 2006, 10:39:09 pm
By the way, since the topic of this thread is supposed to be griping about the championship game, I think Warren was hosed.  I also think that Nashville is the rightful champion (in spite of the fact that Super Scrapper is for them).  Human error is part of the game.  Sadly, it was a huge part of this one.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Super Scrapper on December 17, 2006, 10:45:20 pm
Quote from: Moron Detector on December 17, 2006, 10:37:19 pm
I am simply stating facts on a board.  Since you are obviously bothered by facts, ignore them.  I don't understand why you view stating facts as an attack?  The only person I have attacked from Nashville is you.  Before you get your panties in a wad over that one you might want to read back over all the names you have called me because I disagree with your myopic opinions.

No..you are not simply stating facts...You are simply rubbing it in over and over.  I have replied time and again to this crap.  If you want answers about this, go to the horse himself.  You are such a know-it-all and think you are so smart, write  him or call him and see what you get for some answers to your questions.  Everyday posters on FF evidently don't satisfy you.  Since that is the case drop it.  Enough is enough.  That is why I calll you names like "Stupid"b/c it fits....SS

Go Scrappers
   ;D
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Scrapper Slapper on December 17, 2006, 10:53:33 pm
I don't want to hear from "everyday posters on FF" if that is what you call yourself.  You have posted crap over and over in response to my statements of facts.  I already know what the "horse" thinks (You really shouldn't call people names like that.  He might not appreciate the size reference).  He has admitted that he proposed, campaigned for, and argued in the meeting for the passage of this measure.  He has already stated publicly that he did it because the private schools were winning too many championships.  The only opinion I have stated is that his ulterior motive was to keep Nashville from moving up a class.  He seems like a smart man.  I am sure he could do the math on that one.   I am not so confident that you have similar abilities.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: OldScrap on December 17, 2006, 10:55:31 pm
Quote from: Moron Detector on December 17, 2006, 10:39:09 pm
By the way, since the topic of this thread is supposed to be griping about the championship game, I think Warren was hosed.  I also think that Nashville is the rightful champion (in spite of the fact that Super Scrapper is for them).  Human error is part of the game.  Sadly, it was a huge part of this one.

Mistake, NO, its no mistake, Scrappers are the 2006 Class 4 A Champions and they have a 28 game winning streak to go with it.

Warren's coach made the decision to go for all or nothing with a 2 point conversion, the referee made the call, Warren did not get in, bad decision for Warren's coach, end of game with Nashville up 21-20.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Super Scrapper on December 17, 2006, 11:19:55 pm
Quote from: Moron Detector on December 17, 2006, 10:53:33 pm
I don't want to hear from "everyday posters on FF" if that is what you call yourself.  You have posted crap over and over in response to my statements of facts.  I already know what the "horse" thinks (You really shouldn't call people names like that.  He might not appreciate the size reference).  He has admitted that he proposed, campaigned for, and argued in the meeting for the passage of this measure.  He has already stated publicly that he did it because the private schools were winning too many championships.  The only opinion I have stated is that his ulterior motive was to keep Nashville from moving up a class.  He seems like a smart man.  I am sure he could do the math on that one.   I am not so confident that you have similar abilities.

If you think you have all of the answers, what is the point of discussing it?  You think you are right even when you are not so it does no good to argue with you.  You are just like the other folks that post on this subject...too biased and just want to jump on anyone from Nashville....SS

Go Scrappers
  ;D
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Bleachermom on December 18, 2006, 01:14:37 am
Quote from: Super Scrapper on December 17, 2006, 11:19:55 pm
If you think you have all of the answers, what is the point of discussing it?  You think you are right even when you are not so it does no good to argue with you.  You are just like the other folks that post on this subject...too biased and just want to jump on anyone from Nashville....SS

Go Scrappers
  ;D
I won't speak for MD, but I have no intention of jumping on anyone from Nashville. My reason for continuing to post on this subject is to exercise my freedom of speech and let as many posters as possible from the new 4A understand what was potentially done to their classification as a result of the increased multiplier. The potential for Nashville to remain at the top of the 4A heap if the 1.75 multiplier is not adjusted, will be there again when the next reclassification numbers are computed. I'll certainly run the numbers at that time to see how the increased multiplier benefits Nashville. You've repeatedly urged me to "do something" instead of complaining. I am taking the only action available to me. I am campaigning for the patrons of other schools to influence their employees who vote for AAA proposals to reconsider their vote on the multiplier when it comes up again. You do not believe that Nashville school patrons and tax payers are responsible for the actions of their school employees. I, however, believe that many other school patrons will decide to influence the way their tax supported employees view this situation.

Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Fanofallfootball on December 18, 2006, 08:52:32 am
Anyone who has posted over 5,000 times on this board definitely needs to get a life.  Imagine if that person had been doing a good deed in place of each post and the countless hours spent reading and contriving insulting, know it all, abusive, arrogant responses.  Super Scrapper may call herself/himself a super fan of a winning team but to ALL has proven to be a super loser as an individual.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: The_Preacher on December 18, 2006, 09:10:37 am
 bump
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: transplant on December 18, 2006, 09:24:45 am
Bump a stuck post.  Cool.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: lions44 on December 18, 2006, 09:30:50 am
guess what!!! all this griping and whining aint going to change the outcome ok! nashville won the 4A state championship so why dont yall get over it dang. who has the rings and the big trophy plaque thing NASHVILLE!!!
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: The_Preacher on December 18, 2006, 10:30:42 am
looks like it is not strck to me, what your computer have  bad  reactions today
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: gameoflife on December 18, 2006, 10:52:38 am
One man represented 75 schools?  That's impressive.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Scrapper Slapper on December 18, 2006, 01:54:48 pm
Quote from: Super Scrapper on December 17, 2006, 11:19:55 pm
If you think you have all of the answers, what is the point of discussing it?  You think you are right even when you are not so it does no good to argue with you.  You are just like the other folks that post on this subject...too biased and just want to jump on anyone from Nashville....SS

Go Scrappers
  ;D

When have you ever proved one of the things I said wrong?  I cannot believe that YOU of all people would accuse anyone of bias.  Finally, I have not jumped on anyone from Nashville other than you.  I have great respect for transplant, Pumpkinheads, Scrapper Mom, Scrapper Girl Boo etc. who are all big supporters of their team.  They are just not obnoxious about it.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Scrapper Slapper on December 18, 2006, 02:05:44 pm
Quote from: transplant on December 18, 2006, 01:56:47 pm
uh...the "t" in transplant is not capalized.

But thank you for being nice.

I fixed it, sorry!
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: BigDaddyD63 on December 18, 2006, 02:07:50 pm
Nashvilles kicking game should be put into question... how did #50 get the job?
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: sam on December 18, 2006, 02:09:48 pm
Quote from: BigDaddyD63 on December 18, 2006, 02:07:50 pm
Nashvilles kicking game should be put into question... how did #50 get the job?

By making like 300 PAT's in a row.  And that was just in the Booneville game last year.  He's actually a very good kicker.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: sam on December 18, 2006, 03:26:30 pm
Reverend!
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: fearless_footballer on December 18, 2006, 03:38:07 pm
I know one thing, Nashville wont have to worry about next year cause yall aint gonna get to the big dance next year. Once you lose A.J. and J.J you lose your dreams of another championship.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Super Scrapper on December 18, 2006, 03:55:19 pm
Quote from: fearless_footballer on December 18, 2006, 03:38:07 pm
I know one thing, Nashville wont have to worry about next year cause yall aint gonna get to the big dance next year. Once you lose A.J. and J.J you lose your dreams of another championship.

You are rather ignorant...especially about "Scrapper Football"...Sure those guys were great but not irreplaceable.  We will fill the holes they leave.  Expect to see Nashville doing very well and in the game at WMS come Dec. 07....SS

Go Scrappers
    ;D :D ;) :) 8)
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Garo on December 18, 2006, 03:59:09 pm
Quote from: fearless_footballer on December 18, 2006, 03:38:07 pm
I know one thing, Nashville wont have to worry about next year cause yall aint gonna get to the big dance next year. Once you lose A.J. and J.J you lose your dreams of another championship.
We hear this every couple of years but it seems that someone always steps up the plate.  And someone will step in to fill the void and Coach Dawson will work it all out. No worries on our part.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: fearless_footballer on December 18, 2006, 04:14:45 pm
Man i watched yall JR. high play De Queen the past two years and they got spanked both years. so i know yall might still be good next year with your running back but just wait the next few years for nashville will be tough.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Implant Guy on December 18, 2006, 04:33:00 pm
It was a long time ago when I played but we weren't any good in junior high either.  We went 1 - 5.  When we got to be seniors in high school, we made it to the semi's of the state playoofs.  Junior High is not always the best measure.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: jailbreak on December 18, 2006, 05:33:36 pm
It looks like to me that SS and Nashville have taken the #1 Hated spot  that PA had a hold on for so long.Good job
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: transplant on December 18, 2006, 05:37:07 pm
Once again I can proudly proclaim:

We're #1
We're #1
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Super Scrapper on December 18, 2006, 05:46:20 pm
Quote from: jailbreak on December 18, 2006, 05:33:36 pm
It looks like to me that SS and Nashville have taken the #1 Hated spot  that PA had a hold on for so long.Good job

Oh well, you are already blind, are you losing your mind as well??  SS

Go Scrappers
  ;)
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: jailbreak on December 18, 2006, 05:57:58 pm
Come on old timer surely you haven't lost all control..y'all wouldn't never win a popularity contest unless y'all were the only ones voting.Be honest
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Garo on December 18, 2006, 06:00:13 pm
Quote from: jailbreak on December 18, 2006, 05:33:36 pm
It looks like to me that SS and Nashville have taken the #1 Hated spot  that PA had a hold on for so long.Good job
No looks like you've taken that spot.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Bleachermom on December 18, 2006, 08:31:54 pm
Quote from: jailbreak on December 18, 2006, 05:33:36 pm
It looks like to me that SS and Nashville have taken the #1 Hated spot  that PA had a hold on for so long.Good job

Sad to say....in our world today, that seems to go with winning.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: ljackfan100 on December 18, 2006, 08:42:01 pm
With all due respect, I disagree.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Garo on December 18, 2006, 08:48:28 pm
Quote from: Bleachermom on December 18, 2006, 08:31:54 pm
Quote from: jailbreak on December 18, 2006, 05:33:36 pm
It looks like to me that SS and Nashville have taken the #1 Hated spot  that PA had a hold on for so long.Good job

Sad to say....in our world today, that seems to go with winning.
Good post and good thought for the day.  In life, just as in a game, when you are on top, there will always be someone wanting to knock you down.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Super Scrapper on December 18, 2006, 09:16:12 pm
Quote from: Bleachermom on December 18, 2006, 08:31:54 pm
Quote from: jailbreak on December 18, 2006, 05:33:36 pm
It looks like to me that SS and Nashville have taken the #1 Hated spot  that PA had a hold on for so long.Good job

Sad to say....in our world today, that seems to go with winning.

Gee, I wish we could all be "Lily White Perfect" like you presume to be....SS

Go Scrappers
  ;D
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: OldScrap on December 18, 2006, 09:34:24 pm
Quote from: Super Scrapper on December 18, 2006, 09:16:12 pm
Quote from: Bleachermom on December 18, 2006, 08:31:54 pm
Quote from: jailbreak on December 18, 2006, 05:33:36 pm
It looks like to me that SS and Nashville have taken the #1 Hated spot  that PA had a hold on for so long.Good job

Sad to say....in our world today, that seems to go with winning.

Gee, I wish we could all be "Lily White Perfect" like you presume to be....SS

Go Scrappers
   ;D

I rightly don't think its hate, I think its jealousy. Seems like to me it pours out of some peoples post when referring to the Nashville Scrappers.

Congratulations to the Nashville Scrappers 2006 State Champions + 28 wins in a row.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: ljackfan100 on December 18, 2006, 10:05:20 pm
The negative emotions you  imply as having been directed at the Scrappers is truly not felt toward the team, staff, or individual players. I'ts the mean comments about the controversy and our not seeing it as a clear win that have brought out such response toward the title game.   I speak for many Warren fans.  We bear no grudge against the Scrappers, themselves.  A clear loss would have been easier. 
(I know that comment is a bullseye, but I'm sincere.)
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: transplant on December 18, 2006, 10:08:17 pm
That is a fair comment.

Please understand my negative feelings are due to the comments directed at players who were told that they... "should be embarrased to put a trophey in the case or put a ring on their finger".
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: ljackfan100 on December 18, 2006, 10:12:59 pm
That's an ugly exception.  Whoever posted that is a hothead and should be ashamed.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: ljackfan100 on December 18, 2006, 10:17:21 pm
I'm ashamed FOR them.  Hope it was a kid.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Scrapper Slapper on December 18, 2006, 10:30:55 pm
I have great respect for the Nashville football team, most of their supporters, and to the surprise of many, even their evil leader, Doug Graham.  The man saw a way to benefit his team and was able to convince almost every public school in the state to help him.  You have got to take your hat off to him for that.  I don't like Super Scrapper.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: ljackfan100 on December 18, 2006, 10:37:25 pm
I'd bet he yells A LOT...
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Bleachermom on December 18, 2006, 10:39:07 pm
Quote from: Super Scrapper on December 18, 2006, 09:16:12 pm
Quote from: Bleachermom on December 18, 2006, 08:31:54 pm
Quote from: jailbreak on December 18, 2006, 05:33:36 pm
It looks like to me that SS and Nashville have taken the #1 Hated spot  that PA had a hold on for so long.Good job

Sad to say....in our world today, that seems to go with winning.

Gee, I wish we could all be "Lily White Perfect" like you presume to be....SS

Go Scrappers
  ;D
Where on earth did that come from? I've never, ever claimed to be perfect. I've owned up to many mistakes. Perhaps you misunderstood my post? I was simply saying that it is not at all unusual for folks...especially high school aged kids...to "hate" anyone who has a great deal of success. That just comes with the territory. If that isn't the case, why this accusation?
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Super Scrapper on December 19, 2006, 07:01:57 pm
Quote from: Bleachermom on December 18, 2006, 10:39:07 pm
Quote from: Super Scrapper on December 18, 2006, 09:16:12 pm
Quote from: Bleachermom on December 18, 2006, 08:31:54 pm
Quote from: jailbreak on December 18, 2006, 05:33:36 pm
It looks like to me that SS and Nashville have taken the #1 Hated spot  that PA had a hold on for so long.Good job

Sad to say....in our world today, that seems to go with winning.

Gee, I wish we could all be "Lily White Perfect" like you presume to be....SS

Go Scrappers
  ;D
Where on earth did that come from? I've never, ever claimed to be perfect. I've owned up to many mistakes. Perhaps you misunderstood my post? I was simply saying that it is not at all unusual for folks...especially high school aged kids...to "hate" anyone who has a great deal of success. That just comes with the territory. If that isn't the case, why this accusation?

Didn't appear that way...I apologize...Get on with it, but you might as well butt your head against a brick wall as to mention DG and the Multiplier.   He didn't do it by himself and Nashville is not responsible for it either.  

BTW MD, I don't give a "HOOT or HOLLAR" whether you like me or not, I don't care for you either.  Does not bother you??  I hope you lose some sleep or get a virus b/c of it....lol...SS

Go Scrappers
  ;D
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Scrapper Slapper on December 19, 2006, 10:45:01 pm
I will try to get to sleep tonight in spite of your disdain.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: R. A.™ on December 20, 2006, 08:36:12 am
I have heard that there will be no more replays on the scoreboard
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Mike Bonds on December 20, 2006, 09:16:16 am
Anything that could possibly be said on this topic has been said in 48 pages.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: polksalet on June 06, 2010, 05:46:59 pm
lol
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: OldScrap on June 06, 2010, 08:57:07 pm
Wow, you've been digging.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: dc24 on November 04, 2010, 04:28:35 am
Since this was talked about in the Politics forum, I figured I'd look back over some of this haha.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Wahls on November 04, 2010, 12:19:41 pm
I wonder what happened to Moron Detector...
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: OldScrap on November 06, 2010, 10:27:51 pm
Old memories.  ;D
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Wahls on November 06, 2010, 10:33:47 pm
Quote from: Super Scrapper on December 18, 2006, 05:46:20 pm
Oh well, you are already blind, are you losing your mind as well??  SS

Go Scrappers
   ;)

I just laughed so hard I can't even breathe.

EDIT: Karma bites. Unfortunately only a few people will get the funny.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: AirWarren on December 18, 2010, 03:01:11 am
This thread sickens me but my gosh...them memories!!
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: OldScrap on April 21, 2011, 10:22:01 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on December 18, 2010, 03:01:11 am
This thread sickens me but my gosh...them memories!!

Yes, and these "Hall Of Fame" memories are still here.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: sam on April 26, 2011, 08:42:32 am
His knee was down.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Wahls on April 26, 2011, 11:43:46 am
I still haven't seen a picture to prove either side.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Eddie Goodson on April 26, 2011, 02:44:56 pm
I still lean to Warren getting hosed in the deal.

Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: dc24 on April 26, 2011, 10:34:23 pm
I was for sure he was in right after the game and the few days after that.  The more I watched the replays and saw the pictures I thought it was closer and closer and closer.

I still think he was in, but I recognize that it was a very close play.  The only thing I don't like is that the back judge made the call.  I still wish one of the side judges would have made the call or they would have at least had a conference and made a decision.

Still makes me smile though when I remember how shocked the Nashville fans were when they showed the replay. 
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Big Time on May 11, 2011, 05:49:23 pm
nashville rules
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: polksalet on May 23, 2011, 01:14:20 pm
Quote from: sam on April 26, 2011, 08:42:32 am
His knee was down.

he couldn't win the big game there or at uaf. It's obvious he's not ready for prime time.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Wahls on May 24, 2011, 06:27:52 pm
Quote from: polksalet on May 23, 2011, 01:14:20 pm
Quote from: sam on April 26, 2011, 08:42:32 am
His knee was down.

he couldn't win the big game there or at uaf. It's obvious he's not ready for prime time.

At least he's still at a D1 school, or should I say, at least he's smart enough to maintain his grades to stay at a D1 school.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Eddie Goodson on May 24, 2011, 06:32:42 pm
So if the refs had called this the other way, does Dawson end up still as Nashville coach and Hembree end up pastoring a Baptist church?
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: AirWarren on October 06, 2011, 03:18:39 am
Quote from: Eddie Goodson on May 24, 2011, 06:32:42 pm
So if the refs had called this the other way, does Dawson end up still as Nashville coach and Hembree end up pastoring a Baptist church?

I am going to go out on a limb and say....NEGATIVE!
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: toobad4u993 on November 03, 2011, 05:14:34 pm
He was in
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: sam on November 09, 2011, 10:14:41 am
Bullcrap!!!

Both his knees were down!!!

So was Brett Smith's knee!!!

And so was Phillip Fulmer's knee and one of his double chins!!!

Even Hembree had a least one knee down on the play!!






Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: LJ06 on October 22, 2013, 08:47:11 am
Just browsing through good times here, man I miss FF of back then
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Wahls on March 07, 2014, 04:48:21 am
Oh the nostalgia.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: AirWarren on March 07, 2014, 05:18:15 am
Quote from: Wahls on March 07, 2014, 04:48:21 am
Oh the nostalgia.

Crazy crazy times.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Wahls on March 07, 2014, 05:38:54 am
Quote from: AirWarren on March 07, 2014, 05:18:15 am
Quote from: Wahls on March 07, 2014, 04:48:21 am
Oh the nostalgia.

Crazy crazy times.

I still haven't seen a good photo to prove either side.

But I do have to give Warren credit - we had an eerily similar deal with a HSU vs OBU game, except you could clearly see in the photos that OBU tailback Chris Rycraw was down. None of the OBU coaches would shake hands, and the players were beside themselves. I'm pretty sure it played out differently on this deal.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: AirWarren on March 07, 2014, 08:28:07 am
Tough pill to swallow.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: phdefense on May 31, 2014, 08:23:47 pm
Quote from: Wahls on March 07, 2014, 05:38:54 am
Quote from: AirWarren on March 07, 2014, 05:18:15 am
Quote from: Wahls on March 07, 2014, 04:48:21 am
Oh the nostalgia.

Crazy crazy times.

I still haven't seen a good photo to prove either side.


But I do have to give Warren credit - we had an eerily similar deal with a HSU vs OBU game, except you could clearly see in the photos that OBU tailback Chris Rycraw was down. None of the OBU coaches would shake hands, and the players were beside themselves. I'm pretty sure it played out differently on this deal.
This thread is the gift that just keeps giving.

(http://oi57.tinypic.com/2s7umx0.jpg)

While the knee might have been down, the back judge blew the call for the wrong reason. Look at where he is looking. I truly believe he called it no good because of lack of knowledge on the fumble rule.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Uncle Ivan on June 01, 2014, 04:12:11 am
Quote from: phdefense on May 31, 2014, 08:23:47 pm

(http://oi57.tinypic.com/2s7umx0.jpg)


That's pretty definitive.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Romeo on June 02, 2014, 10:22:20 pm
He was in. Period.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: transplant on June 04, 2014, 12:06:38 pm
Your fresh tears bring me great delight.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Wahls on July 25, 2014, 07:32:08 pm
The bottom of his thigh pad is almost on the ground. So his knee is probably down at this juncture.

Still not convinced either way.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: STUNNA on December 02, 2014, 03:16:28 pm
Touchdown warren
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Top Shelf on December 19, 2014, 01:41:29 pm
to celebrate the 8th anniversary of this game here is something to show how one-sided it really was..
Nashville had 449 total yards of offense compared to Warrens 227, of which, 110 came on 2 plays.  Total domination
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: polksalet on December 28, 2014, 08:22:19 am
Someone needs to put this and the other Nashville title games online.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: CincyGuyintheFort on January 27, 2015, 02:08:54 pm
First I ever heard of this  and ...........

After seeing the picture.....



..TOUCHDOWN!! Warren got hosed. That pic is no doubt proof he was in. Dang that has to be tough for them to swallow
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: paraloma on January 29, 2015, 01:20:43 pm
Quote from: STUNNA on December 02, 2014, 03:16:28 pm
Touchdown warren

Quote from: CincyGuyintheFort on January 27, 2015, 02:08:54 pm
First I ever heard of this  and ...........

After seeing the picture.....



..TOUCHDOWN!! Warren got hosed. That pic is no doubt proof he was in. Dang that has to be tough for them to swallow

It was a two point attempt.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: sixthman on February 04, 2015, 04:48:52 pm
Quote from: paraloma on January 29, 2015, 01:20:43 pm
Quote from: STUNNA on December 02, 2014, 03:16:28 pm
Touchdown warren

Quote from: CincyGuyintheFort on January 27, 2015, 02:08:54 pm
First I ever heard of this  and ...........

After seeing the picture.....



..TOUCHDOWN!! Warren got hosed. That pic is no doubt proof he was in. Dang that has to be tough for them to swallow

It was a two point attempt.

He still got in...just like Dez caught it. ;D

Quote from: Top Shelf on December 19, 2014, 01:41:29 pm
to celebrate the 8th anniversary of this game here is something to show how one-sided it really was..
Nashville had 449 total yards of offense compared to Warrens 227, of which, 110 came on 2 plays.  Total domination

...And yet Warren still scored more points than them...AMAZING!  ;D

While I do have my own thoughts about this game, I kid. I know some Scrapper fans that I like to rub with this game every once and again.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Garo on November 06, 2015, 10:01:25 pm
Memories abound.  Can't wait for the long awaited rematch #3.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: LJ06 on November 18, 2015, 09:01:35 pm
One of the best threads ever on this board.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: Top Shelf on August 11, 2016, 01:31:53 pm
Nashville even beat them to getting turf..
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: AirWarren on August 11, 2016, 06:03:15 pm
Quote from: Top Shelf on August 11, 2016, 01:31:53 pm
Nashville even beat them to getting turf..

Yeah, they did. However, One looks like a one week job and less expensive and one looks like a more expensive and a several week job. I let you decide which one is which.
Title: Re: Here is your post to gripe about the outcome of the 4A Championship Game.
Post by: ~WPS~ on August 11, 2016, 07:11:06 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on August 11, 2016, 06:03:15 pm
Yeah, they did. However, One looks like a one week job and less expensive and one looks like a more expensive and a several week job. I let you decide which one is which.
Nashville had more workers present throughout the process which equals faster work. Also the turf quality is top of the line, no other high school in Arkansas has this premium version. Warren's turf looks good, I don't know anything about it other than appearance, but I can guarantee it isn't better than Nashville's.