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Big school vs. small school

Started by HawgWild2711, March 07, 2006, 09:46:58 am

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HawgWild2711

Do you think that some Class A schools could beat schools that are in Class 3A and up?

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M16Colt

yea some class A schools could beat some of these bigger schools......baseball is all about mind set and confidence, anything can happen

McKnz

The biggest difference in large schools and small schools in my opinion is pitching. The larger schools have more to choose from as far as pitching is concerned.

There's an old saying in baseball that good pitching beats good hitting. The average small school (AAA and down) will have one good pitcher. The teams that win state usually have more than one. That usually proves to be the difference.

M16Colt

i agree, small schools can beat bigger schools but there at a real disadvantage with the pitching so its harder to compete all the time

Frylock

Big school the majority of times. The best A and AA schools usually wont hold well head to head with the average to good AAAA and AAAAA schools but there are bigger schools that are not very good and could be beaten by lots of small schools.

WBF †

our school is fairly decent in size....we dont have no ace. Pitching aint everything.

Father Guido

In a one game deal, a small school with a good pitcher can beat a larger school.  Some larger schools baseball sux.  Football coaches want the studs in offseason and stuff like that.  Some smaller schools put more emphasis on baseball that most bigger schools.  Bigger schools in general would have the big advantage in depth.  More than one pitcher, with possibly a relief specialist.  In one game with a good pitcher who doesn't get into trouble and has enough gas to complete the game, if he has a decent defense that doesn't make mistake and a little bit of offense, they can win.

pioneerbasketball

Quote from: Father Guido on March 08, 2006, 01:28:36 am
In a one game deal, a small school with a good pitcher can beat a larger school.  Some larger schools baseball sux.  Football coaches want the studs in offseason and stuff like that.  Some smaller schools put more emphasis on baseball that most bigger schools.  Bigger schools in general would have the big advantage in depth.  More than one pitcher, with possibly a relief specialist.  In one game with a good pitcher who doesn't get into trouble and has enough gas to complete the game, if he has a decent defense that doesn't make mistake and a little bit of offense, they can win.
All very good points. Some schools do put more into a certain sport.

d1

I know Berryville beat Eureka Springs 19-4 by a 15 run rule in the 5th inning on monday

Real World

In 2004 the Booneville Ladycats won State on PITCHING AND PITCHING ONLY!!!! That year we beat teams like Rogers, Bentonville and Fayetteville, all 5AAAAA schools at that time. Our pitcher was Ariel Adair, and she was the key to the Title. Now we did have very good play from the rest of the team and we had a lot of timely hits in BIG games. However, Ariel was the key.

That was an example of girls fastpitch softball but I believe if you have a DOMINATE pitcher who is MOST times unhitable, then the sky's the limit.

HeadBussa08

well from what i was told taylor beat ashdown last year in baseball so i say there is not really a difference unless u play more than one game cause then the depth of pitchin gets involved and most of the small schools can't handle the big schools depth there.

M16Colt

hey real world, one dominating pitcher is not going to win state for your baseball team, you need a good solid pitching staff made up of about 3 good pitchers. Also you cant use girls softball as an example because they pitch underarm and its a natural movement for the body so there arms never get tired so they can pitch every game if they wanted to!!

reality check

At times it could happen, but the best from  "A" could not beat the best from AAAA or AAAAA

Wilson

In the 4 years that I played at Junction City we had a record of 19-4 against what are now  5A schools from Arkansas and Louisiana.   Our record vs 4A schools was 4-1.....at the time we were what is now 3A.......and there were only 2 classes ....AA and AAA.....everyone that was AA and below were in AA and everyone AAA and above played AAA.


in 72 and 77 JC won state which were overall state titles at the time.    In 77 they beat Arkansas High from Texarkana twice....once in the SAU tourney finals and once in the state title game at George Cole at UA.    Those were the only times in 77 that Arkansas high lost to a team from Arkansas.     So.......yeah lower class teams can compete and do well against higher class teams in baseball.   All depends on coaching and dedication from the kids.....

EHSWILDCATS

What do y'all think about PC and El dorado? Who do you think is going to win this game. they are pitching there ace and and El dorado is to. so what do y'all think. ??? ??? ???

woodlawndad

 I don't think it makes as big a difference in Baseball & Basketball as it does in Football. 
At Woodlawn Coach Richardson plays mostly AAA & AAAA schools for nonconference games.  But we continually face our toughest competition in the Regional Tournament against Parkers Chapel & Junction City. 

EHSWILDCATS

so are you saying they are pretty good. its going to be a good game :) :)

CIA

Depth is the issue.  Small schools for the most part will field a team of less real "players" than a large school.  Small schools usually have to hide weaker players somewhere in the limeup and in the field.  You dont normally get away with that the higher in class you go due to sheer numbers. 
Overall small schools could not compete game in and game out.  There are exceptions and exceptional teams that toss logic out the window.  However its an exception and not the rule. 

woodlawndad

Quote from: CIA on March 16, 2006, 07:03:47 pm
Depth is the issue. Small schools for the most part will field a team of less real "players" than a large school. Small schools usually have to hide weaker players somewhere in the limeup and in the field. You dont normally get away with that the higher in class you go due to sheer numbers.
Overall small schools could not compete game in and game out. There are exceptions and exceptional teams that toss logic out the window. However its an exception and not the rule.


I would say in most cases you're correct.  But for schools where baseball is a Big Deal they can usually hold their on.  At schools such as Woodlawn, PC, Junction City, Taylor, etc., etc., etc., they tend to stack up pretty well with the Bigger schools... 

Missco

wood lawndad is right some smaller schools in South Arkansas are as good as most of the AAAA and AAAAA schools in that area ever year. It just depends on what sport is important and that varies from school to school. Classification means a lot in football. In all of the other sports it doesn't mean nearly as much.

c4blueflames

i played for woodlawn in the 90's. we played pine bluff high every year. If it wasn't for a man named torri hunter, we would have beat them. we played all of our non conference games against bigger schools and won most of them. our best was against star city they were #1 in AAA and we smoked them. we also run ruled north little rock.

csd

Like what has been stated earlier, depth is always an issue.  Just my opinions, but when I see smaller schools play bigger schools, it seems that, 1-9, the bigger schools put it in play better than small schools.  Sometimes in small schools you have to hide players or even only your 1-4 can hit.  Now, this is just typically speaking.  There are some very good small schools out there that could play with bigger schools. It's just going to be very difficult to do it day in and day out.

key_stone12

In a 7 game series big schools would be more likely to prevail... pitching... i one game anything can happen

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