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Title: coaches who use profanity towards their players
Post by: GBHog on December 06, 2009, 01:56:52 pm
I know it goes on in college sports, but does it have any place in high school sports.  Does it matter if they are a boys football coach or a girls basketball coach?  If a coach uses profanity daily at their kids, should this guy be allowed to be around the kids?  Should a coach be allowed to close all practices so no one but the kids can hear what he is saying to them?  I played football throughout my school days and I never heard a coach say a profanity, has something changed in the last 20 years to allow coaches to use profanities?  Thoughts?
Title: Re: coaches who use profanity towards their players
Post by: fanoffootball on December 06, 2009, 01:57:34 pm
Thoughts: Find a coach who does not curse, then get back to me.
Title: Re: coaches who use profanity towards their players
Post by: DB on December 06, 2009, 02:09:18 pm
Quote from: fanoffootball on December 06, 2009, 01:57:34 pm
Thoughts: Find a coach who does not curse, then get back to me.

Tony Dungy
Title: Re: coaches who use profanity towards their players
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on December 06, 2009, 02:21:11 pm
Quote from: GBHog on December 06, 2009, 01:56:52 pm
I know it goes on in college sports, but does it have any place in high school sports.  Does it matter if they are a boys football coach or a girls basketball coach?  If a coach uses profanity daily at their kids, should this guy be allowed to be around the kids?  Should a coach be allowed to close all practices so no one but the kids can hear what he is saying to them?  I played football throughout my school days and I never heard a coach say a profanity, has something changed in the last 20 years to allow coaches to use profanities?  Thoughts?
What happened? Did a coach curse at your kid or in front of him? Did it hurt little Johnnies feelings. Good grief, go to Wal-Mart and buy some diapers..............................
Title: Re: coaches who use profanity towards their players
Post by: fanoffootball on December 06, 2009, 02:21:29 pm
Quote from: DB on December 06, 2009, 02:09:18 pm
Quote from: fanoffootball on December 06, 2009, 01:57:34 pm
Thoughts: Find a coach who does not curse, then get back to me.

Tony Dungy

He has absolutely NEVER used profanity, ever? Not even when mad and "slipping" one?
Title: Re: coaches who use profanity towards their players
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on December 06, 2009, 02:22:56 pm
Quote from: DB on December 06, 2009, 02:09:18 pm
Quote from: fanoffootball on December 06, 2009, 01:57:34 pm
Thoughts: Find a coach who does not curse, then get back to me.

Tony Dungy
You have no clue as to whether or not Dungy ever used profanity. In closed doors with players I bet he has dropped a bomb or two................
Title: Re: coaches who use profanity towards their players
Post by: Eddie Goodson on December 06, 2009, 02:32:10 pm
Being as Jesus Christ has never coached football, I doubt anyone can say definitively about any coach. That said, There are things much worse to gripe about. If you have a problem with how your coach acts, take it to the school board where it belongs.
Title: Re: coaches who use profanity towards their players
Post by: Eddie Goodson on December 06, 2009, 02:37:58 pm
Bypass that censor again and you won't post for awhile. Here you are bellyaching about a coach and you are doing the very thing you are griping about. I suggest you shut up and move on.
Title: Re: coaches who use profanity towards their players
Post by: fanoffootball on December 06, 2009, 04:55:32 pm
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Title: Re: coaches who use profanity towards their players
Post by: 4SnJ on December 06, 2009, 05:34:46 pm
Quote from: fanoffootball on December 06, 2009, 01:57:34 pm
Thoughts: Find a coach who does not curse, then get back to me.
Jeff Conaway
Title: Re: coaches who use profanity towards their players
Post by: Bear09 on December 06, 2009, 05:51:33 pm
You have a point but don't get too carried away. I had a problem with the coach cursing at me and I respectfully asked him to stop away from everyone else. He can holler at me all he wants thats part of it, it is an emotional game but after that he very seldom used a profanity around me. That being said Some coaches do not care but how can coaches do it then expect kids not to do it in the classroom. It is a double standard and that is just the world in which we live. but no coaches should not use profanity towards their players.
Title: Re: coaches who use profanity towards their players
Post by: colts52 on December 06, 2009, 06:45:52 pm
a coach expects a kid not to use it in a classroom because its a rule. its not a rule that the coach cant curse. if a player curses in a class its most likey not because the coach did it
Title: Re: coaches who use profanity towards their players
Post by: oldplayer on December 06, 2009, 06:48:23 pm
I was a player at all levels of the game spanning better than 24 years. Above High School you are a hired hand. In many cases you have made the choice as to who you play for, so you take what you get or you can leave. That being said, we are talking about High School kids here so my opinion is this. There is a difference in cussing a player directly by calling the young man the names in order to demean him there is no place for that. Now, I personally feel that a coach who curses in general or to sound more rough or to ad a little more punch to make a point, that's no big deal. These young men hear worse and in many cases say worse daily themselves. If they are brought up to know the difference and deal with it "the way they will need to as adults", we should just chalk it up to one more of the valuable lessons the great sport of football teaches us. We cannot control what others do or say, we can only control the way we respond.

Tony Dungy was mentioned above, here is a quote of his from his book.

"Respond to adversity do not react"

God Bless and Merry Christmas!
Title: Re: coaches who use profanity towards their players
Post by: Adjudicator on December 06, 2009, 07:03:29 pm
I've been officiating football and basketball now for 22 yrs and the list of those that do cuss is a lot bigger than the list of those that don't.  And some of the names on my list my shock some because of their perceived "great human being" status.
Title: Re: coaches who use profanity towards their players
Post by: colts52 on December 06, 2009, 07:08:39 pm
Quote from: oldplayer on December 06, 2009, 06:48:23 pm
I was a player at all levels of the game spanning better than 24 years. Above High School you are a hired hand. In many cases you have made the choice as to who you play for, so you take what you get or you can leave. That being said, we are talking about High School kids here so my opinion is this. There is a difference in cussing a player directly by calling the young man the names in order to demean him there is no place for that. Now, I personally feel that a coach who curses in general or to sound more rough or to ad a little more punch to make a point, that's no big deal. These young men hear worse and in many cases say worse daily themselves. If they are brought up to know the difference and deal with it "the way they will need to as adults", we should just chalk it up to one more of the valuable lessons the great sport of football teaches us. We cannot control what others do or say, we can only control the way we respond.

Tony Dungy was mentioned above, here is a quote of his from his book.

"Respond to adversity do not react"

God Bless and Merry Christmas!

I completely agree, cussing at the kid to down him shouldnt be tolerated. but cussing in general i dont see it as a problem
Title: Re: coaches who use profanity towards their players
Post by: True Fan on December 06, 2009, 07:09:01 pm
Quote from: colts52 on December 06, 2009, 06:45:52 pm
a coach expects a kid not to use it in a classroom because its a rule. its not a rule that the coach cant curse.

Weak point. Every school has rules. These apply during class AND during school activities. They also apply to students and faculty. It's no different, (BY RULE), than a math or science teacher cussing in class for effect.

What it really teaches is that the same rules don't apply to everyone. The old double standard. Kind of like that Lamar thing that upset so many people because "the rule wasn't followed".

Title: Re: coaches who use profanity towards their players
Post by: colts52 on December 06, 2009, 07:10:54 pm
you are not in the north east corner. the teachers cuss
Title: Re: coaches who use profanity towards their players
Post by: washedup on December 06, 2009, 07:20:53 pm
Van Paschal cursed one time in practice and he ran drills until he couldn't walk after practice just like the players. There is no need for foul language anywhere. Especially if you claim to be a christian.
Title: Re: coaches who use profanity towards their players
Post by: Smithian on December 06, 2009, 07:33:07 pm
I think there is a big difference between coaches cussing in general and coaches cussing at players. Huge difference. One happens. It's not good, but we're all human. The other? Not very acceptable in high school football.
Title: Re: coaches who use profanity towards their players
Post by: colts52 on December 06, 2009, 07:46:10 pm
this is going to endup a religious type thing but were i stand is that there is going to be cussing in football the intensity is so high and words come out. it happens but it should not happen in a derogitory manner towards a kid
Title: Re: coaches who use profanity towards their players
Post by: washedup on December 06, 2009, 07:47:07 pm
I don't cuss and I'm human? Under no circumstance do I get mad enough or upset enough to cuss. Anyone can choose not to cuss its just a matter of will power
Title: Re: coaches who use profanity towards their players
Post by: Big Foot on December 06, 2009, 08:11:20 pm
This thread must be dedicated to the one and only "HARVE WELCH"
Title: Re: coaches who use profanity towards their players
Post by: Eddie Goodson on December 06, 2009, 08:14:32 pm
I don't know who it was aimed at but it is a heck of note when the person who starts the thread about coaches cussing doesn't make it three posts without cussing another poster. Kind of ruins the point they were trying to make.
Title: Re: coaches who use profanity towards their players
Post by: JohnBarleycorn on December 06, 2009, 08:36:26 pm
The worst mouth I've heard on a coach was from a Christian, Private school in Little Rock.
Title: Re: coaches who use profanity towards their players
Post by: DB on December 06, 2009, 09:15:31 pm
What is the intent of one person "cussing" another person?  Generally speaking, one person cussing another person usually involves an effort to intimidate.  It also usually involves a lack of intelligence, vocabulary, self perception and manhood.  I've just never understood the fascination with using parts of our language that identifies us as someone who cannot handle stressful situations in a calm, intelligent, productive manner.  I understand pre-teens and teenagers that cuss.  But it often baffles me to see grown intelligent men and women look so stupid.
Title: Re: coaches who use profanity towards their players
Post by: o-lineman on December 06, 2009, 09:28:00 pm
Quote from: Coach Venny Slocombe on December 06, 2009, 02:22:56 pm
Quote from: DB on December 06, 2009, 02:09:18 pm
Quote from: fanoffootball on December 06, 2009, 01:57:34 pm
Thoughts: Find a coach who does not curse, then get back to me.

Tony Dungy
You have no clue as to whether or not Dungy ever used profanity. In closed doors with players I bet he has dropped a bomb or two................


Which high school does Dungy coach for, again? Wait....... That'd be NFL. And i coulr be wrong, but he's no longer a coach.
Title: Re: coaches who use profanity towards their players
Post by: OldScrap on December 06, 2009, 09:33:21 pm
Quote from: washedup on December 06, 2009, 07:47:07 pm
I don't cuss and I'm human? Under no circumstance do I get mad enough or upset enough to cuss. Anyone can choose not to cuss its just a matter of will power

True!

And of all things, a coach, who is a teacher, setting a double standard, doing what the student is told not to do, sad.

Title: Re: coaches who use profanity towards their players
Post by: RD™ on December 06, 2009, 09:40:00 pm
Quote from: fanoffootball on December 06, 2009, 01:57:34 pm
Thoughts: Find a coach who does not curse, then get back to me.
Rick Jones.
Title: Re: coaches who use profanity towards their players
Post by: DB on December 06, 2009, 09:50:42 pm
Quote from: Rebel Dog™ on December 06, 2009, 09:40:00 pm
Quote from: fanoffootball on December 06, 2009, 01:57:34 pm
Thoughts: Find a coach who does not curse, then get back to me.
Rick Jones.

I've never met Rick Jones.  Based on his record, I think it is safe to assume that he is a fairly intelligent man.  I suspect he has a better understanding of motivation than do most coaches.  I am not surprised that he does not feel a need to cuss his players.
Title: Re: coaches who use profanity towards their players
Post by: RD™ on December 06, 2009, 09:55:53 pm
Quote from: DB on December 06, 2009, 09:50:42 pm
Quote from: Rebel Dog™ on December 06, 2009, 09:40:00 pm
Quote from: fanoffootball on December 06, 2009, 01:57:34 pm
Thoughts: Find a coach who does not curse, then get back to me.
Rick Jones.

I've never met Rick Jones.  Based on his record, I think it is safe to assume that he is a fairly intelligent man.  I suspect he has a better understanding of motivation than do most coaches.  I am not surprised that he does not feel a need to cuss his players.
His cuss word "GOOD GOSH A FRIDAY"

That's it.
Title: Re: coaches who use profanity towards their players
Post by: washedup on December 06, 2009, 09:57:51 pm
Rick Jones must be doing something right or something illegal to do what he does year in and year out. But he is a great coach the best in Arkansas in my opinion.
Title: Re: coaches who use profanity towards their players
Post by: Jimbo Morphis on December 07, 2009, 10:25:24 am
this is a chicken#$@% thread. cussing is part of #$@%$^& football. if you can't take it join the ^%$% band. if the band director should cuss there is always homeschooling.
Title: Re: coaches who use profanity towards their players
Post by: washedup on December 07, 2009, 10:43:44 am
You must be a very lonely sad little man.
Title: Re: coaches who use profanity towards their players
Post by: Billyo62 on December 07, 2009, 10:52:46 am
Words are just words, if they are used in a matter that is pointed or belittling then it's bad,  but if it's just the word being used that bothers you get over it you pansies!
Title: Re: coaches who use profanity towards their players
Post by: DubbyFife on December 07, 2009, 10:56:21 am
To me it boils down to this.  I don't cuss around my own children and I don't really apprecitate it when others do.  I know it happens and we all live through it but I can't see where anyone has the right to use inappropriate language around others kids.  It just about respect.
Title: Re: coaches who use profanity towards their players
Post by: Billyo62 on December 07, 2009, 11:05:50 am
Quote from: DubbyFife on December 07, 2009, 10:56:21 am
To me it boils down to this.  I don't cuss around my own children and I don't really apprecitate it when others do.  I know it happens and we all live through it but I can't see where anyone has the right to use inappropriate language around others kids.  It just about respect.

I had a coach in football that could speak several languages and used to say things all the time when he was mad, no one ever complained...years later I found out that he was one of the most foul mouthed people on the planet, we just didn't know the words he was speaking... My point is if you have no idea it's a bad word then I guess it's ok because your or kids won't feel disrespected or uncomfortable....no harm no foul.
Title: Re: coaches who use profanity towards their players
Post by: pantherblue on December 07, 2009, 11:15:11 am
I actually don't even think this was about a football coach.  The word "girls basketball" was slipped in so I am almost certain that is what started this whole thing.... I know the new one at Brier doesn't hide any words with anyone so I am sure that's what started it....
Title: Re: coaches who use profanity towards their players
Post by: BillyJack™ on December 07, 2009, 01:49:35 pm
Interesting topic, but my question has to be, what is truly defined as profanity?

Is it simply the use of words that have been deemed taboo regardless of intention or do the words themselves not matter and it fall on the use of language to demoralize another person? I've always had a hard time with that question.

Being retired Army and always serving in line units, cursing was communicating. No real malintent, just more of an urgent motivational contents.

Personally, I've tried to raise my son with the understanding that you should respect social taboos, but to note that there is really no difference between the likes of "Shoot that hurt!" and "&#$% that hurt!". That it's more the meaning of what and why you say something that's the issue than the words you use to portray it.
Title: Re: coaches who use profanity towards their players
Post by: washedup on December 07, 2009, 04:02:20 pm
I just don't believe you can say one thing and do another. Example "Do as I say and not as I do." That's the most perverted way to lead people especially kids. You lead by Influence not by authority, that's how you gain true trust from people.
Title: Re: coaches who use profanity towards their players
Post by: rpr on December 07, 2009, 09:52:21 pm
So a coach who doesn't have a 4.0 GPA, doesn't run sprints with the team during conditioning, can't keep a running back out of the end zone with a classic form tackle, or stand in the pocket and take a hit while throwing the perfect deep ball isn't really going to be an effective coach?
Title: Re: coaches who use profanity towards their players
Post by: gatecrasher on December 07, 2009, 10:19:18 pm
It's FOOTBALL. Coaches chewed my butt out back in the day....using profanity.

All it did was make me work harder.....

Maybe some kids need to go play with Tonka trucks and Barbie dolls......sheesh......
Title: Re: coaches who use profanity towards their players
Post by: True Fan on December 07, 2009, 10:52:10 pm
I have had coaches that cussed a blue streak and coaches that never cussed. Some good and some bad from both categories.

I've never seen it make someone a better coach.

Title: Re: coaches who use profanity towards their players
Post by: OldScrap on December 07, 2009, 10:57:33 pm
Quote from: washedup on December 07, 2009, 04:02:20 pm
I just don't believe you can say one thing and do another. Example "Do as I say and not as I do." That's the most perverted way to lead people especially kids. You lead by Influence not by authority, that's how you gain true trust from people.

I agree with you, but there be many who will disagree with us, even though we are right.

You lead by example, and a good example goes a long ways towards teaching children. If you tell them to do one way, them you do the other way, them you will not have their respect. Some cannot understand that.

Title: Re: coaches who use profanity towards their players
Post by: washedup on December 08, 2009, 10:15:12 am
As hard as it might be to believe football isn't about winning on friday night that just a plus. Football is about building people skills and work ethic. The man that teaches you those things is your coach. He's your example the one you look to when you do not know what to do or you do what he's done in that situation. That's why a coach should lead by example and not worthless words. That's not only a message about coaching its a message to anyone in general.
Title: Re: coaches who use profanity towards their players
Post by: cacfootball4lyfe on December 08, 2009, 10:16:38 am
I know that I talk alot about CAC's past, but in my seven years there I never heard one coach use profanity and last time I checked during that time we were pretty successful. There is no need for profanity on the field it doesnt help you win at all it just makes you look stupid.
Title: Re: coaches who use profanity towards their players
Post by: Billyo62 on December 08, 2009, 10:21:41 am
Quote from: washedup on December 08, 2009, 10:15:12 am
As hard as it might be to believe football isn't about winning on friday night that just a plus. Football is about building people skills and work ethic. The man that teaches you those things is your coach. He's your example the one you look to when you do not know what to do or you do what he's done in that situation. That's why a coach should lead by example and not worthless words. That's not only a message about coaching its a message to anyone in general.

Ok, it would be a lot better if coaches would tell kids to go do something other than football because in all honesty they are too fat and slow to play at the level we need here in this program and quit wasting My time and the real football players time.

That would be honest 99% of the time, and it would make the kids that really want to succeed do their best to overcome the reality of their inabilties...That would be a great real world lesson in life...  Mommies would revolt for their babies!  ;)
Title: Re: coaches who use profanity towards their players
Post by: washedup on December 08, 2009, 11:33:24 am
I played football just like you probably did. And I had men that coached me that were good men on the field but more importantly better men off the field. You can make jokes if you want but if you have kids you want your coaches to be good influences on the field and off. And show your kids how to deal with adverse situations and joyful situations in the right way.
Title: Re: coaches who use profanity towards their players
Post by: Billyo62 on December 08, 2009, 11:42:34 am
Quote from: washedup on December 08, 2009, 11:33:24 am
I played football just like you probably did. And I had men that coached me that were good men on the field but more importantly better men off the field. You can make jokes if you want but if you have kids you want your coaches to be good influences on the field and off. And show your kids how to deal with adverse situations and joyful situations in the right way.

All joking aside , I agree with you, I just think that at times we make little things into big things, my nephews dad made a formal complaint to their school because the dad witnessed the coach smoking a cigarette in his car after a game " Private Religous school "  some folks just need to lighten up just a tad! 
Title: Re: coaches who use profanity towards their players
Post by: washedup on December 08, 2009, 11:57:29 am
Some people can take things to far yes I absolutely agree. But I deal with kids all the time and the one the that I don't mess around with is the outcome of a young persons life. But the lesson to be learned is that eyes are always on you no matter who you are or what you do. So people ought to live accordingly you never know who else's life you might effect with your actions.
Title: Re: coaches who use profanity towards their players
Post by: Jimbo Morphis on December 08, 2009, 03:54:27 pm
Quote from: washedup on December 07, 2009, 10:43:44 am
You must be a very lonely sad little man.
actually a very big happy man who was kidding. i don't think it hurts a kid to hear a little profanity on the football field. they are going to hear it in life.
Title: Re: coaches who use profanity towards their players
Post by: True Fan on December 08, 2009, 03:58:39 pm
There's a time and place for pretty much everything. As I deal with a lot of teenagers, they often have trouble with deciding what behavior is appropriate. A lot of that is because of adults in their life who never grew up. Most people never know what an impact they have on kids.
Title: Re: coaches who use profanity towards their players
Post by: Billyo62 on December 08, 2009, 04:48:05 pm
Quote from: True Fan on December 08, 2009, 03:58:39 pm
There's a time and place for pretty much everything. As I deal with a lot of teenagers, they often have trouble with deciding what behavior is appropriate. A lot of that is because of adults in their life who never grew up. Most people never know what an impact they have on kids.

You mean people like Tiger Woods who cusses throws his clubs and Cheats on his wife with any gal with wide legs and yet spends Millions of dollars and his valuable time to help kids...  or did I miss your point?

Kids aren't as stupid as you think!
Title: Re: coaches who use profanity towards their players
Post by: PIGSKIN JUNKIE on December 08, 2009, 04:50:18 pm
My dad and I had a discussion about this a while back. I played sports from youth thru high school and remember a few of my jr. high and high school coaches not only using profanity, but also going into tirades. But the ironic thing is, I loved and respected most, if not all of my coaches. Sure if a coach doesn't use profanity, great, but I personally never held it against them if they did because they not only taught me about football, bball, etc., but about life as well. My dad was in the coaching profession (basketball, football,track, etc) for 37 years and I can recall a few slipups on the field or court, but he was and still is a man of principle and good character.
Title: Re: coaches who use profanity towards their players
Post by: Billyo62 on December 08, 2009, 04:58:48 pm
I coached U-Trip baseball for ten years , ages 9 to 12 and I never used Blue Language at any kids I coached, but I did spew out some bad words in the dug out at times , but NEVER directed toward any players and I only had one mama in 10 years that had a problem with it.....  Lighten up.
Title: Re: coaches who use profanity towards their players
Post by: washedup on December 08, 2009, 05:29:40 pm
People lose credibility when they screw up (Tiger Woods) they can throw all the money they want into charities but it won't make them a good person.
Title: Re: coaches who use profanity towards their players
Post by: Billyo62 on December 08, 2009, 05:33:49 pm
Quote from: washedup on December 08, 2009, 05:29:40 pm
People lose credibility when they screw up (Tiger Woods) they can throw all the money they want into charities but it won't make them a good person.

Yes...... Now we can say that.... but before this he was an angel to the poor...Now because of the backlash of his discressions he should hold on to all his money because sponsers will yank huge dollars away from him....
Title: Re: coaches who use profanity towards their players
Post by: True Fan on December 08, 2009, 07:14:48 pm
Quote from: Billyo62 on December 08, 2009, 04:48:05 pm
or did I miss your point?


Yep. I'm not talking about stars. They know their power. I'm talking about everyday Joe's who think they are just living their own life.

Quote from: Billyo62 on December 08, 2009, 04:48:05 pm
Kids aren't as stupid as you think!

That's not my meaning at all. Kids have way more info availible to them. It's almost information overload. My mom missed a couple of the Funk & Wagnalls at Safeway, so there's a lot of stuff I didn't know till I got older.


There was a clear line when I was a kid about where that type of language was okay. Listen around a group of kid to how the boys talk to the girls. And how the girls talk. They have trouble knowing when to watch their mouth.

If you think that's fine. Good for you. That's your choice.

It's not mine.
Title: Re: coaches who use profanity towards their players
Post by: washedup on December 08, 2009, 08:01:52 pm
That's just how our society is changing. That's why the people with power and influence need to watch every step and consider every decision they make as if it effects other people. In a way it does effect other people.
Title: Re: coaches who use profanity towards their players
Post by: Jimbo Morphis on December 09, 2009, 08:53:12 am
Quote from: washedup on December 08, 2009, 08:01:52 pm
That's just how our society is changing. That's why the people with power and influence need to watch every step and consider every decision they make as if it effects other people. In a way it does effect other people.
now all we have is tim tebow. he is perfect and will never let us down like tiger.
Title: Re: coaches who use profanity towards their players
Post by: truebluefootball on December 09, 2009, 09:18:21 am
I've played football for nine years and i've had coachs that used profanity and coachs that haven't but if they did it never hurt me. So it should be the same so yall. Coachs get mad and might let one slip its no big deal poeple use profanity all the time
Title: Re: coaches who use profanity towards their players
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on December 09, 2009, 11:00:07 am
Quote from: washedup on December 08, 2009, 10:15:12 am
As hard as it might be to believe football isn't about winning on friday night that just a plus. Football is about building people skills and work ethic. The man that teaches you those things is your coach. He's your example the one you look to when you do not know what to do or you do what he's done in that situation. That's why a coach should lead by example and not worthless words. That's not only a message about coaching its a message to anyone in general.
If football is not about winning on Friday night's then why do coaches lose their jobs when they don't win? Friday night football is about winning. Your statement sounds like T-Ball where every kid gets a trophy for participating. This is about competition and winning. I don't believe that a coach should just single out a kid and curse him for ten minutes over a blown assignment, but if the coach happens to drop a couple of bombs then so be it. Kids hear alot worse with their friends and sometimes family. People need to take their diapers off their kids and let them grow up. IF you don't like it then take your kid to the band room, maybe the band director doesn't curse.........
Title: Re: coaches who use profanity towards their players
Post by: colts52 on December 09, 2009, 01:14:18 pm
Quote from: Coach Venny Slocombe on December 09, 2009, 11:00:07 am
Quote from: washedup on December 08, 2009, 10:15:12 am
As hard as it might be to believe football isn't about winning on friday night that just a plus. Football is about building people skills and work ethic. The man that teaches you those things is your coach. He's your example the one you look to when you do not know what to do or you do what he's done in that situation. That's why a coach should lead by example and not worthless words. That's not only a message about coaching its a message to anyone in general.
If football is not about wining on Friday night's then why do coaches lose their jobs when they don't win? Friday night football is about winning. Your statement sounds like T-Ball where every kid gets a trophy for participating. This is about competition and winning. I don't believe that a coach should just single out a kid and curse him for ten minutes over a blown assignment, but if the coch happens to drop a couple of bombs then so be it. Kids hear alot worse with their friends and sometimes family. People need to take their diapers off their kids and let them grow up. IF you don't like it then take your kid to the band room, maybe the band director doesn't curse.........

agreed, and about Tiger, he cursed all the time on the course anybody that really believed he was a perfect angel had to be blind and deaf, the six billion dollar man did what he wanted while maintaining a low profile and he just slipped up took a couple vicaden and xanex pass out ran into his fire hydrant
Title: Re: coaches who use profanity towards their players
Post by: washedup on December 09, 2009, 05:41:41 pm
I didn't say that football isn't winning on friday night. I said its a plus to win. Everybody wants to win noone wants to lose.
Title: Re: coaches who use profanity towards their players
Post by: sspanthers_58 on December 09, 2009, 07:09:52 pm
I played for Coach Ashcraft in Siloam Springs in 2008 and I dont think I heard one cuss word come out of his mouth in 3 years and Im positive he did not talk down to his players using cuss words. I give props to Coach Ashcraft and all the coaches at Siloam Springs for being good coaches... the right way!
Title: Re: coaches who use profanity towards their players
Post by: FanofFriday on December 09, 2009, 09:29:28 pm
Played in SEC and can tell you that coaches language was not a big deal.  They owned you so if you didn't like the way they were talking to you, just pack your bags and move back home to Mama anytime you wanted.  Coaches language was one of the nicer things that I was educated on.  I understand the age difference between HS and college kids, but any HS athlete with dreams of playing ball at the next level can't let curse words or a coach "getting in his face" bother him or he won't last long.
Title: Re: coaches who use profanity towards their players
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on December 10, 2009, 02:06:46 pm
Quote from: washedup on December 09, 2009, 05:41:41 pm
I didn't say that football isn't winning on friday night. I said its a plus to win. Everybody wants to win noone wants to lose.
Your exact quote, "As hard as it might be to believe football isn't about winning on Friday night that just a plus".

Look at Reply #60 where I quoted you. If the game was not about winning then why play. As I said before, you make it sound like T-Ball. Heck, let's quit keeping score and give every school a state championship trophy. I don't know if you have kids or not, but trust me, they hear worse from their friends than they do their coaches. Take the diapers off and let the kids grow up. Profanity isn't the end of the world.
Title: Re: coaches who use profanity towards their players
Post by: C-Mac 73 on December 10, 2009, 08:57:59 pm
All I can say is this thread is absolutely pointless. Everyone has their own opinion. Cuss, don't cuss. Nobody really cares.
Title: Re: coaches who use profanity towards their players
Post by: colts52 on December 11, 2009, 09:57:42 am
if thats all you can say dont post
Title: Re: coaches who use profanity towards their players
Post by: washedup on December 11, 2009, 03:38:04 pm
I know what goes on with kids crap I'm not far removed from high school. I know exactly what kids say. That's exactly my point most kids use that kind of language because they don't have a vocabluary or are from ruff backgrounds ect. As adults don't you think that adults should separate themselves from childish things in that aspect? How much respect can a kid give an adult if they are on the same maturity level? None
Title: Re: coaches who use profanity towards their players
Post by: Billyo62 on December 11, 2009, 03:48:51 pm
Quote from: washedup on December 11, 2009, 03:38:04 pm
I know what goes on with kids crap I'm not far removed from high school. I know exactly what kids say. That's exactly my point most kids use that kind of language because they don't have a vocabluary or are from ruff backgrounds ect. As adults don't you think that adults should separate themselves from childish things in that aspect? How much respect can a kid give an adult if they are on the same maturity level? None

So you are saying only stupid kids from "RUFF" places talk like that?
Title: Re: coaches who use profanity towards their players
Post by: washedup on December 11, 2009, 04:14:10 pm
I guess I should've listed some more demintions of what I was talking about for those who don't understand what I was saying
Title: Re: coaches who use profanity towards their players
Post by: True Fan on December 11, 2009, 04:44:16 pm
Sadly, for many, it wouldn't matter. Anything goes.
Title: Re: coaches who use profanity towards their players
Post by: C-Mac 73 on December 14, 2009, 09:05:43 am
Again, pointless.