Hot Springs Lakeside @ Camden Fairview

[Youngsta71701]

Now that conference play is about to begin maybe we'll be able to tell a little more about each team. Let the talk begin. Go!!!

Mines is pretty simple. If we (Camden Fairview) don't stop turning the ball over and go to a 4-4-3 defense at least on 1st and 2nd down to help stop or slow down the run we're in for a long season. What say ye?

[PapaHog]

You're the coach. You know more about defense than Monden. Make the change, Youngsta.

[youhavenoidea]

Did Camden's starting middle LB not play last week?

[WTD]

Now that conference play is about to begin maybe we'll be able to tell a little more about each team. Let the talk begin. Go!!!

Mines is pretty simple. If we (Camden Fairview) don't stop turning the ball over and go to a 4-4-3 defense at least on 1st and 2nd down to help stop or slow down the run we're in for a long season. What say ye?

[browning_gold_12]

Did Camden's starting middle LB not play last week?

No. Got into a scuffle at Hamburg the week before, that he didn't start, but he retaliated. 

[Youngsta71701]

You're the coach. You know more about defense than Monden. Make the change, Youngsta.

Good point.
You do know this is a message board right? Meaning it's all about opinions, thoughts and conversation. Just checking. It's not rocket science. We haven't been able to stop the run without an extra man in the box for years.

[Youngsta71701]

Did Camden's starting middle LB not play last week?

He started the 2nd half after the game had already pretty much been decided.

[The A-Team]

Now that conference play is about to begin maybe we'll be able to tell a little more about each team. Let the talk begin. Go!!!

Mines is pretty simple. If we (Camden Fairview) don't stop turning the ball over and go to a 4-4-3 defense at least on 1st and 2nd down to help stop or slow down the run we're in for a long season. What say ye?

I agree

[PapaHog]

But you...a guy that spends 2 hours a week watching the team play...always thinks he knows better than the guys that spend hours every day with the kids. I think Monden will make the right moves defensively. He seems to know what he's doing on that side of the ball. I'm not saying they aren't struggling to stop the run. I'm not even saying your idea is wrong. I am saying that I trust the coach.

[youhavenoidea]

He started the 2nd half after the game had already pretty much been decided.

How was the game in the 2nd half with him playing?  Who runs a 4-4 defense anymore? sounds like a old school/ peewee defense.  The spread offense made the 4-4 defense obsolete!

[Youngsta71701]

How was the game in the 2nd half with him playing?  Who runs a 4-4 defense anymore? sounds like a old school/ peewee defense.  The spread offense made the 4-4 defense obsolete!

I think they only scored 1 time in the 2nd half with him playing but they ran the ball the majority of the time trying to kill the clock. A lot of teams run the spread and still run the ball 90% of the time on 1st and 2nd downs do they not? Unless you're playing against Pulaski Academy. I believe in playing the percentages. And most outside linebackers in today's game are small enough to stop the run and still play the pass if need be. The middle linebackers are usually the thumpers. And even they have to be fast enough and quick enough to cover from time to time.

It would really be more like a 4-3 with the Safety creeping up in the box. In other words make those running teams pass the ball to beat ya.

[Youngsta71701]

But you...a guy that spends 2 hours a week watching the team play...always thinks he knows better than the guys that spend hours every day with the kids. I think Monden will make the right moves defensively. He seems to know what he's doing on that side of the ball. I'm not saying they aren't struggling to stop the run. I'm not even saying your idea is wrong. I am saying that I trust the coach.

I'm around team a lot more than you think. Trust me. I watch a lot of things from the background or from afar. And stopping your team from running the ball in practice is a lot different from trying to stop another team in an actual game. Maybe the other team runs the ball better than your team? And trust me from what I've seen that is definitely the case. I see your point though.

[Youngsta71701]

Who runs a 4-4 defense anymore? sounds like a old school/ peewee defense.  The spread offense made the 4-4 defense obsolete!

Lakeside - Spread/Run heavy
Texarkana - Multiple/Balanced
Magnolia - Flexbone/RUN HEAVY
DeQueen - I-Form/RUN HEAVY
Hope - Multiple/TBD - New coach
Hot Springs - TBD - New coach
LR McClellan - Multiple/RUN HEAVY

Get my point? Now once you get into the playoffs that could be a whole different story because you have no idea who you'll be matched up with.

[youhavenoidea]

So three RUN HEAVY offenses means change your scheme to a 4-4!?... I guess you need to go to the school Board and apply for the job, if there is one...seems like your observations and inner knowledge is a can't miss hire

[purpleswag]

How was the game in the 2nd half with him playing?  Who runs a 4-4 defense anymore? sounds like a old school/ peewee defense.  The spread offense made the 4-4 defense obsolete!

Lots of people run the 4-4 defense

[youhavenoidea]

Don't confuse a 4-2 with a 4-4 defense

[Youngsta71701]

So three RUN HEAVY offenses means change your scheme to a 4-4!?... I guess you need to go to the school Board and apply for the job, if there is one...seems like your observations and inner knowledge is a can't miss hire

My thought's are simple. If you run the ball a lot I'm going to make you pass the ball to beat me. And if you pass the ball a lot I'm going to make you run the ball to beat me. And if you do both I'm going to play the down and distance. It's pretty simple really. It's not rocket science.

[Youngsta71701]

Lots of people run the 4-4 defense

It's obvious he's either a troll or he's being a smart a*s.

[Youngsta71701]

No matter how you look at it most high school teams run the ball on 1st down. Period. Look at the percentages.

[Youngsta71701]

So three RUN HEAVY offenses means change your scheme to a 4-4!?... I guess you need to go to the school Board and apply for the job, if there is one...seems like your observations and inner knowledge is a can't miss hire

You missed Lakeside. They are not as run heavy as the other three.

[Overdahill]

I'm around team a lot more than you think. Trust me. I watch a lot of things from the background or from afar. And stopping your team from running the ball in practice is a lot different from trying to stop another team in an actual game. Maybe the other team runs the ball better than your team? And trust me from what I've seen that is definitely the case. I see your point though.

totally true because in practice you recognize the plays right way because you see them all the time

[PapaHog]

Here's the problem though, Youngsta. I put my team in the best position possible schematically. It's just that 90% of the time, talent wins out. Remember teams absolutely loading the box against Darren McFadden and Felix Jones? Remember them running wild?

[RamFan06]

Lakeside was RUN HEAVY last year, not as much this year. Haven't had a lot of trouble moving the ball.

[Youngsta71701]

Here's the problem though, Youngsta. I put my team in the best position possible schematically. It's just that 90% of the time, talent wins out. Remember teams absolutely loading the box against Darren McFadden and Felix Jones? Remember them running wild?

You're right about that. Those two were on a TOTALLY different level though. If that's the case not much you can do about it lol.

[Youngsta71701]

Lakeside was RUN HEAVY last year, not as much this year. Haven't had a lot of trouble moving the ball.

Yep, you guys scare me every time we play you. We have trouble stopping your offensive scheme.

[youhavenoidea]

My thought's are simple. If you run the ball a lot I'm going to make you pass the ball to beat me. And if you pass the ball a lot I'm going to make you run the ball to beat me. And if you do both I'm going to play the down and distance. It's pretty simple really. It's not rocket science.

So simple yet so difficult...oh how many next day/ armchair QB's the world has, is amazing...again with some pretty obvious observation or cliche quote

[Youngsta71701]

So simple yet so difficult...oh how many next day/ armchair QB's the world has, is amazing...again with some pretty obvious observation or cliche quote

See the thing you don't know about me is that I've been a coach for a while. Football, basketball and baseball. It's not armchair QBing when you've done it and that philosophy it's proven. Why would you let someone beat you doing what they want and like to do? If you come up with a better philosophy let me know.

[Neckred]

Now that conference play is about to begin maybe we'll be able to tell a little more about each team. Let the talk begin. Go!!!

Mines is pretty simple. If we (Camden Fairview) don't stop turning the ball over and go to a 4-4-3 defense at least on 1st and 2nd down to help stop or slow down the run we're in for a long season. What say ye?

It's comical these teams playing a 3 man front vs teams that can't pass. 

[spongebob]

So three RUN HEAVY offenses means change your scheme to a 4-4!?... I guess you need to go to the school Board and apply for the job, if there is one...seems like your observations and inner knowledge is a can't miss hire

He should apply. He has as much football sense as anyone they've hired since 2014.

[Neckred]

So three RUN HEAVY offenses means change your scheme to a 4-4!?... I guess you need to go to the school Board and apply for the job, if there is one...seems like your observations and inner knowledge is a can't miss hire

Well you for sure don't stay in a 3 man front and take it like a little @##@#!

[Cardinalboi07]

The only thing that matters now is that CF and all the other teams in the conference are 0-0. I am so glad the Swanson kid is gone lol. That kid was a beast. CF has impressive seniors and I'm hoping that are motivated after last week. CF has the speed and athletic advantage and LS is younger on defense. I still believe in the coaching staff and the students. First down execution will be a focus for both teams. We don't want 2nd or 3rd in long because of a holding or negative play and I cant stand to see anymore redzone turnovers. My prediction, and Im sure some would say it is a bold one, but CF 27 Lakeside 13

[PapaHog]

Coaching peewee on the weekends doesn't make you a coach... I bet you play a 2-3 zone with your basketball team too, don't you?

[Brian G]

Final score???

[razorcardsfan11]

Final score???

Still going on 38-26 in the 4th

[Brian G]

This and 2 more.  Late night fun.

Thx

[razorcardsfan11]

This and 2 more.  Late night fun.

Thx

Games finally over cards win 38-26

[youhavenoidea]

 

Coaching peewee on the weekends doesn't make you a coach... I bet you play a 2-3 zone with your basketball team too, don't you?

[Youngsta71701]

It's comical these teams playing a 3 man front vs teams that can't pass.

IKR don't make any sense. I'm gone load the box until you show me you can pass.

[Youngsta71701]

He should apply. He has as much football sense as anyone they've hired since 2014.

Some of these coaches have so much pride that they can't even use COMMON SENSE and play the percentages lol.

[Youngsta71701]

Coaching peewee on the weekends doesn't make you a coach... I bet you play a 2-3 zone with your basketball team too, don't you?

Nope I don't coach pee wee. And I only play a 2-3 zone against teams that can't shoot  .

[CoachWhoever]

Guys, guys... he payed $15 to the Amateur Athletic Union and so now he gets to call himself a coach. Also, don't play a 2-3 with young kids. You're stunting their development and teaching poor defensive habits. Idc what you do with your 10U football team. That's a dying sport anyways.

[Youngsta71701]

Guys, guys... he payed $15 to the Amateur Athletic Union and so now he gets to call himself a coach. Also, don't play a 2-3 with young kids. You're stunting their development and teaching poor defensive habits. Idc what you do with your 10U football team. That's a dying sport anyways.

My way of thinking worked when we won how many conference championships in a row? Went to how many semifinals? Went to how many championship games in Little Rock? Won a state championship should have been three if we take our feet off the pedal in two games? Carry on...

[spongebob]

My way of thinking worked when we won how many conference championships in a row? Went to how many semifinals? Went to how many championship games in Little Rock? Won a state championship should have been three if we take our feet off the pedal in two games? Carry on...

I lost count but I know how many we haven't been to since

[youhavenoidea]

My way of thinking worked when we won how many conference championships in a row? Went to how many semifinals? Went to how many championship games in Little Rock? Won a state championship should have been three if we take our feet off the pedal in two games? Carry on...

Oh you were a coach then?  Sorry let me clarify, you were a High School Varsity Coach at that time?

[Nonsense]

I'm just grateful to be in the presence of so much coaching excellence.

[The A-Team]

Oh you were a coach then?  Sorry let me clarify, you were a High School Varsity Coach at that time?

No...I'm sure he wasn't one of the coaches on that staff. Coaches who has dignity don't get on forums trying to prove how smart they are. We all know that!

[Youngsta71701]

Oh you were a coach then?  Sorry let me clarify, you were a High School Varsity Coach at that time?

When we played against running teams we had 8 sometimes even 9 in the box. When we played against passing teams we had 4 sometimes 5 in the box. And when we played against balanced teams we usually had 7 in the box. It's a numbers game. Anything else you would like to know?

You sound like one of those (the coach is always right kind of guys). I bet you're a coach huh? You do know coaches aren't always right don't you? I know it hurts to know that. Pride is something else...

[Youngsta71701]

No...I'm sure he wasn't one of the coaches on that staff. Coaches who has dignity don't get on forums trying to prove how smart they are. We all know that!

You are correct, but you do know there are quite a few coaches on this forum that do the exact same thing you just said right? Real talk. All jokes aside. Heck even the great Kevin Kelly is on Fearless Friday lol.

I'm not trying to prove how smart I am either. What I said is pretty much common sense. If a team likes to run make them pass it to beat you. Don't have to be smart at all to know that. If a team likes to pass make them run it to beat you. COMMON SENSE!!

[Neckred]

When we played against running teams we had 8 sometimes even 9 in the box. When we played against passing teams we had 4 sometimes 5 in the box. And when we played against balanced teams we usually had 7 in the box. It's a numbers game. Anything else you would like to know?

You sound like one of those (the coach is always right kind of guys). I bet you're a coach huh? You do know coaches aren't always right don't you? I know it hurts to know that. Pride is something else...

Preach

[youhavenoidea]

When we played against running teams we had 8 sometimes even 9 in the box. When we played against passing teams we had 4 sometimes 5 in the box. And when we played against balanced teams we usually had 7 in the box. It's a numbers game. Anything else you would like to know?

You sound like one of those (the coach is always right kind of guys). I bet you're a coach huh? You do know coaches aren't always right don't you? I know it hurts to know that. Pride is something else...

no not a coach...just a guy who likes to call out people that are full of it...have noticed that you have all these negative things to say and all these retrospective comments about how you would've done it...it's the super "unemployed" coaches like you that fuel this forum with your hindsight observations...So I think someone should call those guys out on occasion...again if your so sure about your coaching abilities then get the job of the coach you complain about...everything you have said is about it should be this or it should be that, then as I said prove it get the job, don't hide on a message board with blanket hindsight observations