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Arkadelphia Head Coach
« on: April 10, 2018, 12:51:51 pm »
Who is on the early list?

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Re: Arkadelphia Head Coach
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2018, 01:12:12 pm »
Bo to Arkadelphia, smarter fans.

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Re: Arkadelphia Head Coach
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2018, 01:33:42 pm »
What happened with their coach?

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Re: Arkadelphia Head Coach
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2018, 01:40:07 pm »
What happened with their coach?

Looks like he's going to Conway

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Re: Arkadelphia Head Coach
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2018, 01:48:01 pm »
Bo to Arkadelphia, smarter fans.

Don't wish that evil on me Ricky Bobby.

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Re: Arkadelphia Head Coach
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2018, 02:47:33 pm »
Once again, another early April head coach opening. This one will be easy to fill, and shouldn't have as big of a problem losing players than other schools. I don't know if I would have left unless the salary at Conway is upward of $200k, which it may very well be. Maybe they get someone that can keep the talent level where it's at now...

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Re: Arkadelphia Head Coach
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2018, 03:33:16 pm »
Once again, another early April head coach opening. This one will be easy to fill, and shouldn't have as big of a problem losing players than other schools. I don't know if I would have left unless the salary at Conway is upward of $200k, which it may very well be. Maybe they get someone that can keep the talent level where it's at now...
Salary is not great at Conway. It is better than Arky but then again they do not pay very good. You would think Conway would pay better than it does. They are one of the biggest schools in the state but their pay scale does not represent that. Must be hard to leave arguably the 3 best players in the conference in Turner, Hatley and Tademy returning off of a state champion team. Then again this is not the first time Eldridge has looked at other jobs.

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Re: Arkadelphia Head Coach
« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2018, 04:18:06 pm »
Conway shows to currently pay around 86k.  Arkadelphia around 78k.

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Re: Arkadelphia Head Coach
« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2018, 04:51:59 pm »
Not sure i would have left a potential state champion for 8k extra this year..

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Re: Arkadelphia Head Coach
« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2018, 05:55:26 pm »
Salary is not great at Conway. It is better than Arky but then again they do not pay very good. You would think Conway would pay better than it does. They are one of the biggest schools in the state but their pay scale does not represent that. Must be hard to leave arguably the 3 best players in the conference in Turner, Hatley and Tademy returning off of a state champion team. Then again this is not the first time Eldridge has looked at other jobs.

Heard Tademy’s dad is no longer the DC at Henderson. Took a HC job in Texas I believe. Will son stay or go play for dad?

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Re: Arkadelphia Head Coach
« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2018, 06:03:05 pm »
Heard Tademy’s dad is no longer the DC at Henderson. Took a HC job in Texas I believe. Will son stay or go play for dad?
With my dad leaving and my HC leaving, I would think he may leave also. I would play for my dad my senior year. Who knows though.

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Re: Arkadelphia Head Coach
« Reply #11 on: April 10, 2018, 06:46:31 pm »
Heard Tademy’s dad is no longer the DC at Henderson. Took a HC job in Texas I believe. Will son stay or go play for dad?

http://www.star-telegram.com/sports/dfwvarsity/article206557484.html

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Re: Arkadelphia Head Coach
« Reply #12 on: April 10, 2018, 08:57:32 pm »
With my dad leaving and my HC leaving, I would think he may leave also. I would play for my dad my senior year. Who knows though.

Why would he stay if his dad/family move?

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Re: Arkadelphia Head Coach
« Reply #13 on: April 11, 2018, 02:08:36 pm »
Just heard word that he is staying in Arkadelphia.

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Re: Arkadelphia Head Coach
« Reply #14 on: April 11, 2018, 02:12:43 pm »
Why would he stay if his dad/family move?

I was wondering for a while if I was the only one who thought this through too and asked that same question.... I thought everyone was going crazy for a second there.

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« Reply #15 on: April 11, 2018, 02:15:48 pm »
Just heard word that he is staying in Arkadelphia.

Not a good look in my opinion if he really told Conway he was taking their job and backed out. I am not saying he made the wrong choice ultimately. Him backing out shows his heart was in Arkadelphia all along which is a good thing for him and the Badgers. Just that I imagine in the locker room he tells kids all the time to honor their word. I know I heard my coaches say that plenty. Don't commit to something if your not committed completely in the first place. Now, if he never really accepted the job verbally that is one thing.
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Re: Arkadelphia Head Coach
« Reply #16 on: April 11, 2018, 02:24:10 pm »
Just heard word that he is staying in Arkadelphia.

By he do you mean Tademy or Eldridge?

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Re: Arkadelphia Head Coach
« Reply #17 on: April 11, 2018, 02:36:19 pm »
By he do you mean Tademy or Eldridge?

Ok so I didn't even think of that possibility before I posted what I did above... Now I am just confused haha.

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Re: Arkadelphia Head Coach
« Reply #18 on: April 11, 2018, 03:03:18 pm »
By he do you mean Tademy or Eldridge?

Sorry didnt think about that before I posted. Coach E.

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« Reply #19 on: April 11, 2018, 03:29:32 pm »
Not a good look in my opinion if he really told Conway he was taking their job and backed out. I am not saying he made the wrong choice ultimately. Him backing out shows his heart was in Arkadelphia all along which is a good thing for him and the Badgers. Just that I imagine in the locker room he tells kids all the time to honor their word. I know I heard my coaches say that plenty. Don't commit to something if your not committed completely in the first place. Now, if he never really accepted the job verbally that is one thing.

We may never know the circumstances of why he's staying. He may have been offered the job and decided not to take it. Even though he's from northwest Arkansas he went to college in Arkadelphia, his wife is from this area, and has made a family here.

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« Reply #20 on: April 11, 2018, 04:28:46 pm »
Did he get he offer or just called to interview and people thought wrong? Bad business if he accepted and then last minute said no

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Re: Arkadelphia Head Coach
« Reply #21 on: April 11, 2018, 09:09:28 pm »
Did he get he offer or just called to interview and people thought wrong? Bad business if he accepted and then last minute said no
7A board was saying it was a done deal. 

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« Reply #22 on: April 11, 2018, 11:26:12 pm »
Did he get he offer or just called to interview and people thought wrong? Bad business if he accepted and then last minute said no

I honestly don't know. I had't even heard anything about it until today.

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Re: Arkadelphia Head Coach
« Reply #23 on: April 12, 2018, 06:35:33 am »
Business move, used Conway as leverage.

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Re: Arkadelphia Head Coach
« Reply #24 on: April 12, 2018, 08:41:05 am »
Business move, used Conway as leverage.

I hope that isn't true cause that would be even worse... This is high school. Not college or pro. I doubt that is true.... He probably just had a change of heart.

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Re: Arkadelphia Head Coach
« Reply #25 on: April 12, 2018, 08:57:03 am »
$$$$ can change your heart.

Before I retired from the business world I used this same strategy.  I had a better offer from another company that would pay more,  I told my company I was going to accept that position.  They counter-offered and matched the other offer.  If you are valued, people will do what they have to do to keep you.

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« Reply #26 on: April 12, 2018, 09:21:16 am »
I love the strategy HS coaches get fired all the time so why can’t you use normal business strategies

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« Reply #27 on: April 12, 2018, 09:27:42 am »
At the end of the day, this is ya'll's "business".  Coaching is how you pay your bills and support your family.  I see nothing wrong with it.

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Re: Arkadelphia Head Coach
« Reply #28 on: April 12, 2018, 10:42:56 am »
Will they hire someone on the coaching staff like the oc ?or dc?

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« Reply #29 on: April 12, 2018, 11:01:16 am »
When it comes down to it, Arkadelphia school district pay is not very good. They have assistant football coaches that make $20,000 less than other assistant football coaches at 4a schools.  Eldridge got his assistants some money and made himself some money. 

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« Reply #30 on: April 12, 2018, 11:14:52 am »
When it comes down to it, Arkadelphia school district pay is not very good. They have assistant football coaches that make $20,000 less than other assistant football coaches at 4a schools.  Eldridge got his assistants some money and made himself some money.

Nothing wrong with positioning yourself for a better job.  Better pay and benefits, better facilities and equipment, staff numbers , and Conway is a nice place to live.   
My only question is why did coaches in these two cases accept and then back out.  People that hire usually want some assurance that if the job is offered it will be accepted.  I would imagine they felt that was the position they were in and were then surprised by the change of heart.

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« Reply #31 on: April 12, 2018, 11:40:29 am »
Stay tuned....

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« Reply #32 on: April 12, 2018, 11:44:02 am »
lol did he go back and take Conway

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« Reply #33 on: April 12, 2018, 03:32:52 pm »
Part 2 to the leverage strategy is if it works you may upset a lot of people that didn't get a raise.

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« Reply #34 on: April 12, 2018, 05:05:15 pm »
With that being said those that didn’t get raises need to negotiate themselves

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« Reply #35 on: April 12, 2018, 05:38:02 pm »
$$$$ can change your heart.

Before I retired from the business world I used this same strategy.  I had a better offer from another company that would pay more,  I told my company I was going to accept that position.  They counter-offered and matched the other offer.  If you are valued, people will do what they have to do to keep you.

The problem with this strategy in schools is that most of the administrators are not business managers and if they were their companies would be in bankruptcy. Schools are financially misrun and money wasted with the most valuable employees and the hardest workers often the most underpaid.   

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« Reply #36 on: April 13, 2018, 06:12:07 am »
If yo're just a teacher there is no negotiations, there is a base salary scale so there is not any wiggle room.  It's different for coaches because the stipends for each position are easily changed.  Only real problem I could see would be title 9. Is the volleyball coach getting a raise?

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« Reply #37 on: April 13, 2018, 02:44:35 pm »
I don't know that stipends are easily changed, if so then coaches at all schools would be better paid.  However you do see schools coming up with money for coaches and administators when they want to keep them.  JR did manage to get most of his staff some extra money as well.  I imagine the community and some board members didnt want to see him leaving.  What I don't understand is how some staff get a raise but not all?  Strange move.

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« Reply #38 on: April 13, 2018, 02:59:46 pm »
If yo're just a teacher there is no negotiations, there is a base salary scale so there is not any wiggle room.  It's different for coaches because the stipends for each position are easily changed.  Only real problem I could see would be title 9. Is the volleyball coach getting a raise?

Oklahoma would like to have a quick word with you to show otherwise...

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« Reply #39 on: April 13, 2018, 04:29:10 pm »
Heard the boosters ponied up a chunk of $$$$$ to get him to stay in Arkadelphia.  Now the teaching staff is upset.  Sit back and watch the drama.

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« Reply #40 on: April 13, 2018, 04:36:12 pm »
Saw that coming!

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« Reply #41 on: April 15, 2018, 09:45:23 am »
Teaching staff doesn't spend the hours nor do they get fired for losing. Most of the community wouldn't know their names and fans don't show up on Friday and pay to see them.  Coaches are generally underpaid for what they do on the field or court.  I know some people think a good number of them make up for that with not so good classroom performance. 

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« Reply #42 on: April 15, 2018, 11:57:42 am »
Teaching staff doesn't spend the hours nor do they get fired for losing. Most of the community wouldn't know their names and fans don't show up on Friday and pay to see them.  Coaches are generally underpaid for what they do on the field or court.  I know some people think a good number of them make up for that with not so good classroom performance.

So do some of the teachers

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« Reply #43 on: April 15, 2018, 07:57:54 pm »
Teaching staff doesn't spend the hours nor do they get fired for losing. Most of the community wouldn't know their names and fans don't show up on Friday and pay to see them.  Coaches are generally underpaid for what they do on the field or court.  I know some people think a good number of them make up for that with not so good classroom performance. 

I've seen some really bad teacher/coaches but I've also seen some excellant coaches who were great in the class room.  It's like everything some good some bad.

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« Reply #44 on: April 16, 2018, 11:21:34 am »
Teaching staff doesn't spend the hours nor do they get fired for losing. Most of the community wouldn't know their names and fans don't show up on Friday and pay to see them.  Coaches are generally underpaid for what they do on the field or court.  I know some people think a good number of them make up for that with not so good classroom performance.

My wife is a teacher.  She is special education certified with two master degrees.  I bet she puts in just as many hours out of the regular school time as any coach.  You should see the amount of paper work required on a child that has a folder with modifications. She worked in the business world prior to going back to school to teach.  Sure she would like more pay, but number of days worked and doing what she enjoys out weighs money. After nine years she is just now making the money she was prior to teaching.

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« Reply #45 on: April 16, 2018, 11:24:45 am »
Teaching staff doesn't spend the hours nor do they get fired for losing. Most of the community wouldn't know their names and fans don't show up on Friday and pay to see them.  Coaches are generally underpaid for what they do on the field or court.  I know some people think a good number of them make up for that with not so good classroom performance. 

LOL.

Ok.

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Re: Arkadelphia Head Coach
« Reply #46 on: April 16, 2018, 11:28:44 am »
No worries folks: Surely a stand-up, family-man of his word, like Eldridge, will show his love for Arkadelphia and split his new found bonanza with his fellow teachers.

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« Reply #47 on: April 16, 2018, 12:10:29 pm »
So...people are upset that Eldridge leveraged another job opportunity into a raise at his current job? Sounds like a shrewd business move to me. Kudos to him for getting it done.

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« Reply #48 on: April 16, 2018, 01:14:08 pm »
My wife is a teacher.  She is special education certified with two master degrees.  I bet she puts in just as many hours out of the regular school time as any coach.  You should see the amount of paper work required on a child that has a folder with modifications. She worked in the business world prior to going back to school to teach.  Sure she would like more pay, but number of days worked and doing what she enjoys out weighs money. After nine years she is just now making the money she was prior to teaching.I doubt it!! Does she work during the summer when these coaches are working 12 to 16 hours a day

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« Reply #49 on: April 16, 2018, 01:29:34 pm »
My wife is a teacher.  She is special education certified with two master degrees.  I bet she puts in just as many hours out of the regular school time as any coach.  You should see the amount of paper work required on a child that has a folder with modifications. She worked in the business world prior to going back to school to teach.  Sure she would like more pay, but number of days worked and doing what she enjoys out weighs money. After nine years she is just now making the money she was prior to teaching.I doubt it!! Does she work during the summer when these coaches are working 12 to 16 hours a day






I bet she don't. I don't think you realize how much time coaches put in. I'm not saying she doesn't do her job well or anything else. She probably does put in some long hours, but coaches get paid about 2.00 an hour if you average out their pay hourly.

 

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