Will Clarendon ever return to it former Glory in Football.

[Lions84]

We had a solid Run 1979-89 and another run under Hart in the late 1990's but since 2001 or so we been in the tank.

I see we have the kids when I go home to visit so what going on at CHS if DA and Hazen and others can win 7 + games a year we should be doing it too.

[razorbackrob]

You have the athletes, but no discipline.

[Ventman]

You have the athletes, but no discipline.

X2 Discipline and dedication are the keys. Kids now days just don't want to put the work and effort in that it takes to be successful at the game of football. I'm not speaking specifically about Clarendon but just kids in general now days. It's just a sad state of affairs.

[purpleswag]

"The children now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise."

Socrates

Been that way forever

[Dayton Kitchens]

They missed their chance twice in the last decade or so.

[bigworm]

it all starts at home. its that simple. football isn't for everyone. it takes commitment, mental tuffness, and physical tuffness. some have it...some don't.

[Hornet4ever]

As a Hackett fan, I've been through this. When I first got into junior high, our senior high was weak and a cupcake opponent. Things have since flipped, and I'll agree with the above statements. Dedication and discipline is huge. The new coach here at Hackett demands discipline, and hard work. We had a few dismissed early season because they just didn't want to go through the new much tougher offseason program and the tough summer work outs and camps. If you want to be good, you have to put in the effort... We went from having a measly two week summer practice right before school started to a weekly full schedule work out plan, and 5-6 team camps. Two of the camps were just for linemen, with bigger schools like Northside and Southside, Greenwood etc. It's a tough road to success, but if you put in the effort things will change. Clarendon can do it, but it starts with the kids attitude and the coach that wants to put in the effort. 

[Lions84]

Thanks folks I agree I have former class mates that are teaching there and they have said the same thing.   

[Bigditchlion]

Clarendon is strange because they clearly have tons of talent. They should always be in the mix.

[MomaLion]

First we need a coach to stick around longer than a couple years..one that the kids can buy into.  Then you have to also consider that we have kids that play summer basketball...as hard as it is to face facts, we are now a basketball school and football pretty much fills in the fall gap until basketball starts up.  I really think Thrash could have turned it around if he'd stayed but we again started over with almost all new coaches..that being said, I think that Meeks is doing fine and has a lot of respect.  Only time will tell.

[Ventman]

Good luck to the Lions, I hope they can get it going again.

[purpleswag]

Clarendon is strange because they clearly have tons of talent. They should always be in the mix.

Just cause they have athletes doesn't mean they have football players

[Pat Swilling]

Is the admin/community pushing FB?

[purpleswag]

Is the admin/community pushing FB?

Judging from how many show up to games I would say that the community cares little about football

[MomaLion]

There's definitely more support for basketball.

[Lions84]

Judging from how many show up to games I would say that the community cares little about football

Nearly 15 years worth of sub .500 seasons will do that to a program.   

[Ventman]

Nearly 15 years worth of sub .500 seasons will do that to a program.

Thats true not many fans now days are hardcore. Winning teams fill stands.
Good luck to the red Lions, hope they get it turned around.

[Lions84]

Thats true not many fans now days are hardcore. Winning teams fill stands.
Good luck to the red Lions, hope they get it turned around.

Thanks Vent I hope the Bison fans hold the course till the ship get righted over in the Grand Prairie.

[Lions84]

Talked with some former players and they all agree we need a Hometown or area boy who wants to come back and do what Pappa Frank did at Barton , Build a program.

[Dayton Kitchens]

Talked with some former players and they all agree we need a Hometown or area boy who wants to come back and do what Pappa Frank did at Barton , Build a program.

You think getting another Frank McClellan is as simple as hiring a former local?

[Sonofasonofasailor]

You think getting another Frank McClellan is as simple as hiring a former local?

Unless they can get Helena recruits, it won't be that simple. 

[Lions84]

You think getting another Frank McClellan is as simple as hiring a former local?

Unless they can get Helena recruits, it won't be that simple. 

Nothing is simple in the Delta.  Frank benifited from the fact that Y camp and the fact the district line was just inside the West Helena City Limits.  The Barton bus used to pull into the Catfish King Restaurant on Hwy 49 and cars and trucks would pull in and drop kids off.  Frank loves the Delta and still around last I heard. We need stability and someone Parents can trust.

[Idoknow]

Nothing is simple in the Delta.  Frank benifited from the fact that Y camp and the fact the district line was just inside the West Helena City Limits.  The Barton bus used to pull into the Catfish King Restaurant on Hwy 49 and cars and trucks would pull in and drop kids off.  Frank loves the Delta and still around last I heard. We need stability and someone Parents can trust.

Frank and his wife live in Jonesboro with their daughter. Last I heard they both weren't doing to well.

[big E]

Frank's delta was a little different than today's Delta.

[Lions84]

Frank's delta was a little different than today's Delta.

Yes both Phillips and Monroe County had more people living there.

[Lions84]

Frank and his wife live in Jonesboro with their daughter. Last I heard they both weren't doing to well.

Sorry to hear that I have not seen Coach in several years.

[JimmyTiger2001]

No

[Lions84]

No

If I believed that I would just leave FF all together.   We just need the right man and for the parents to back him up to get Football back.

[Wonderdog]

If I believed that I would just leave FF all together.   We just need the right man and for the parents to back him up to get Football back.

Have you seen the stands at a Clarendon home football game? What parents are you talking about? Not very many in the stands backing up their own kids to be talking about backing up a coach. When Carlisle played there this year it was sad how little support those kids had.

[nuttinbuthogs]

As a Hackett fan, I've been through this. When I first got into junior high, our senior high was weak and a cupcake opponent. Things have since flipped, and I'll agree with the above statements. Dedication and discipline is huge. The new coach here at Hackett demands discipline, and hard work. We had a few dismissed early season because they just didn't want to go through the new much tougher offseason program and the tough summer work outs and camps. If you want to be good, you have to put in the effort... We went from having a measly two week summer practice right before school started to a weekly full schedule work out plan, and 5-6 team camps. Two of the camps were just for linemen, with bigger schools like Northside and Southside, Greenwood etc. It's a tough road to success, but if you put in the effort things will change. Clarendon can do it, but it starts with the kids attitude and the coach that wants to put in the effort. 

All you need to do is read some of the posts, it's easy to figure out that every town, school, coach, parent or player is not willing to so what is necessary.  If you don't have it you will fail.  Then it usually means a coach gets to go find another job at some point, the school hires somebody else and usually the cycle continues. 

[purpleswag]

If I believed that I would just leave FF all together.   We just need the right man and for the parents to back him up to get Football back.

What makes you think they want football back?

[Tigerdad2]

When was the glory? Fearless says no state titles and 1984 was the last conference championship? Also how many D1 players have come through since that 84 season .
I'm trying to paint a real picture of the football program

[purpleswag]

When was the glory? Fearless says no state titles and 1984 was the last conference championship? Also how many D1 players have come through since that 84 season .
I'm trying to paint a real picture of the football program

They have had a couple of NFL players. Cedric Houston of Tennessee fame is from there and that was like 2000 or 2001

[jbtiger73]

Honestly, since holly grove came there, clarendon has turned into a basketball school. You have alot of old heads there trying to keep it a football heavy school, which is not a problem. But I dont think they understand how serious hoops are in the grove. Which creates alot of tensions between the clarendon and holly grove people. And this is not speculation. This is coming from a couple of prominent former residents of clarendon.

[Wonderdog]

Honestly, since holly grove came there, clarendon has turned into a basketball school. You have alot of old heads there trying to keep it a football heavy school, which is not a problem. But I dont think they understand how serious hoops are in the grove. Which creates alot of tensions between the clarendon and holly grove people. And this is not speculation. This is coming from a couple of prominent former residents of clarendon.

Somebody knows somebody. Almost all of this^ is accurate.

[Tigerdad2]

They have had a couple of NFL players. Cedric Houston of Tennessee fame is from there and that was like 2000 or 2001

So no conference title or state title with an NFL running back?

[Idoknow]

So no conference title or state title with an NFL running back?

Tied for the 6-AA Conference Championship in 1998 and got beat in 3rd rd. by Charleston 14-6. In 2000 got beat in the Semifinals by Rison 28-7.

[jbtiger73]

Definitely know what going on there. If they weren't so divided there, things would definitely get better there. They definitely have the talent. No doubt about that. Need to hit that weight room though. Not aby Scott Davenport's running around anymore there.

[big E]

Or tanks or Cedrics.

[Pick_DA_EAGLES]

Or tanks or Cedrics.

Or jamarlin jacksons

[big E]

Yep he was a dandy.

[Pick_DA_EAGLES]

Yep he was a dandy.

Fastest kid I ever saw with a basketball.  And could make fast kids look slow on the football field.

[beach bum]

I will second that motion about Jamarlin Jackson. The one game I saw him play in basketball he scored all but 6 of their points and only shot 2 three pointers the whole game in which he made both of them. He only shot 2 threes because he was so busy zigzagging in and out, then up the court to the basket whenever he wanted all game.

[Pick_DA_EAGLES]

I will second that motion about Jamarlin Jackson. The one game I saw him play in basketball he scored all but 6 of their points and only shot 2 three pointers the whole game in which he made both of them. He only shot 2 threes because he was so busy zigzagging in and out, then up the court to the basket whenever he wanted all game.

I got to watch him do that in AAU against some top talent as well.

[Lions84]

When was the glory? Fearless says no state titles and 1984 was the last conference championship? Also how many D1 players have come through since that 84 season .
I'm trying to paint a real picture of the football program

We sent Rodney Scaife to the NFL via Delta State , Kerry Owens to the NFL via UA  and Cedric Houston via the UA  Then Tank Daniels to the NFL via Harding.  That all I remember since 1984.

The Holly Grove folks had football till 1986 and they need to get on board with getting Football back.  We were and can be a 7-10 win Team on average.  When I went through we won District 1979 82 and 84.  we had our ups and downs till Hart left around 2000.

[Pick_DA_EAGLES]

We sent Rodney Scaife to the NFL via Delta State , Kerry Owens to the NFL via UA  and Cedric Houston via the UA  Then Tank Daniels to the NFL via Harding.  That all I remember since 1984.

The Holly Grove folks had football till 1986 and they need to get on board with getting Football back.  We were and can be a 7-10 win Team on average.  When I went through we won District 1979 82 and 84.  we had our ups and downs till Hart left around 2000.

Ummm, I'm not the best clarendon sports historian,  but I do know enough to know Cedric went to university of Tennessee,  not the U of A

[Idoknow]

We sent Rodney Scaife to the NFL via Delta State , Kerry Owens to the NFL via UA  and Cedric Houston via the UA  Then Tank Daniels to the NFL via Harding.  That all I remember since 1984.

The Holly Grove folks had football till 1986 and they need to get on board with getting Football back.  We were and can be a 7-10 win Team on average.  When I went through we won District 1979 82 and 84.  we had our ups and downs till Hart left around 2000.

In 1979 Clarendon shared Conference Championship with DeWitt at 6-1 in 6AA, in 82 finished 1-3, in 84 won the 6A with a 5-0 record. In 85 and 86 finished second to Barton in 6A with 4-1 record.

[nuttinbuthogs]

you realize that was 30 years ago?

[wake up]

you realize that was 30 years ago?

Look's as if 84 is living in the past!

[big E]

Ah the good Ole days.