Widener to Riverview!
Is the chicken house market down?
Can't be true 'cause Pick said this in another thread.
We are not gonna need a new coach.
An Eagle has flown from the nest 👀
The Raiders are getting a good one!
Quote from: Old Scrapper on January 11, 2019, 12:36:23 pm
The Raiders are getting a good one!
If he for sure is going there they are getting a good one
Quote from: Lumberjackfan1978 on January 11, 2019, 03:58:33 pm
If he for sure is going there they are getting a good one
He announced it on his personal Twitter account ...
I thought he'd die an Eagle legend before he left there.. lol
From what I've heard, R.V. offered a substantial amount more than Beebe did. Had to take it.
Quote from: pick_DA_EAGLES on January 12, 2019, 09:18:00 pm
From what I've heard, R.V. offered a substantial amount more than Beebe did. Had to take it.
Riverview doesn't pay more than Beebe, this is all public information on school websites. I'm pretty sure Widener didn't interview at Beebe. No coach would choose Riverview or Beebe if both offered.
Quote from: The Ref on January 13, 2019, 12:59:07 pm
Riverview doesn't pay more than Beebe, this is all public information on school websites. I'm pretty sure Widener didn't interview at Beebe. No coach would choose Riverview or Beebe if both offered.
But to be fair here, the public info currently available would be for existing coaches contracts and may not be an accurate reflection of any offers which may (or may not) have been made.....
Quote from: sevenof400 on January 13, 2019, 01:13:07 pm
But to be fair here, the public info currently available would be for existing coaches contracts and may not be an accurate reflection of any offers which may (or may not) have been made.....
Well people were pretty outspoken that Widener didn't interview at Beebe, so to insinuate that he had an offer from Beebe that was less than what Riverview offered is inaccurate.
Pretty sure beebe coaches have an index added to coaches salaries which Riverview doesn't offer.
Highly doubt any football coach would choose Riverview or Beebe, just my opinion though.
I wonder how strong the Booster Club is at Riverview! ;) ;)
I wonder how strong the Booster Club is at Riverview! ;) ;)
Quote from: Trojanbird on January 13, 2019, 06:27:49 pm
I wonder how strong the Booster Club is at Riverview! ;) ;)
Dibanded years ago
Beene or Riverview will have a pay schedule for all teachers which will include the Coach since he is a teacher first. The only way the Coach can earn extra pay is in the form of a Stipend.
Quote from: Cheek on January 13, 2019, 07:03:50 pm
Beene or Riverview will have a pay schedule for all teachers which will include the Coach since he is a teacher first. The only way the Coach can earn extra pay is in the form of a Stipend.
Not necessarily true. Could always add days or make up new stipdends.
Yea, I dont know at all. I'm sure he was lying. 🙄🙄🙄
Riverview got a good coach though
Quote from: i40traveler on January 13, 2019, 08:30:21 pm
Not necessarily true. Could always add days or make up new stipdends.
Most Coaches work the max amount of days to start with. I was trying to explain that the pay scale is the same for everyone. The only way to give extra pay to a Coach is through a stipend for Coach or AD. The stipend can be what ever the School Board is willing to vote on.
Quote from: Cheek on January 14, 2019, 08:30:17 am
Most Coaches work the max amount of days to start with. I was trying to explain that the pay scale is the same for everyone. The only way to give extra pay to a Coach is through a stipend for Coach or AD. The stipend can be what ever the School Board is willing to vote on.
Right. There are lots of ways to add $$$ though. Paid lunch duties, administrative positions like Dean of Students, increased coaching stipends, added days, etc. It can be done in a lot of different ways if the school wants to do it.
Quote from: Cheek on January 14, 2019, 08:30:17 am
Most Coaches work the max amount of days to start with. I was trying to explain that the pay scale is the same for everyone. The only way to give extra pay to a Coach is through a stipend for Coach or AD. The stipend can be what ever the School Board is willing to vote on.
I have to disagree with first comment here. Most coaches do not work the max amount of days, most only get paid 10-20 days over what regular classroom teachers get. Head coaches may get 25-40 extra days but not all. Administrators are typically the only ones getting max amount of days.
Quote from: OB11 on January 14, 2019, 09:07:07 am
Right. There are lots of ways to add $$$ though. Paid lunch duties, administrative positions like Dean of Students, increased coaching stipends, added days, etc. It can be done in a lot of different ways if the school wants to do it.
This is what I was suggesting earlier. Schools will find ('invent') ways to pay coaches when so motivated.
Good for Coach , tough break for DA!
Any names of coaches being interviewed for the job? Should get some good quality guys wanting the job!
Quote from: Outofmany1 on January 17, 2019, 10:49:07 am
Any names of coaches being interviewed for the job? Should get some good quality guys wanting the job!
I hear they have a long list of applicants already. supposedly gonna try to make a hire by the end of the month
I figured they would have a long list for this job. Its a great school district and tradition rich footbal program.
Any coach on staff applied for the spot?
Quote from: Outofmany1 on January 17, 2019, 12:05:56 pm
Any coach on staff applied for the spot?
I have not heard any names
Have they begun interviewing yet?
Had 40+ apply, narrowed down too 5 with head coaching experience and 3 without. The front runner, If hired, will shock everyone.
Quote from: pick_DA_EAGLES on January 18, 2019, 08:37:08 pm
Had 40+ apply, narrowed down too 5 with head coaching experience and 3 without. The front runner, If hired, will shock everyone.
When will they hire?
Quote from: pick_DA_EAGLES on January 18, 2019, 08:37:08 pm
Had 40+ apply, narrowed down too 5 with head coaching experience and 3 without. The front runner, If hired, will shock everyone.
What's the big shock?
If he is the one hired, i wont have to tell.
Quote from: pick_DA_EAGLES on January 18, 2019, 08:37:08 pm
Had 40+ apply, narrowed down too 5 with head coaching experience and 3 without. The front runner, If hired, will shock everyone.
I see what you did there. Guess there may be another opening in the conference.
Quote from: Sonofasonofasailor on January 20, 2019, 02:40:48 pm
I see what you did there. Guess there may be another opening in the conference.
Ummm I said shock, not cause any heart attacks. Lol
That would be a bit underwhelming
Wrong Guy
Quote from: Rick Swines on January 21, 2019, 09:36:43 pm
Sw
Waymire? Would be a
shock since He and his wife both have good paying admin jobs in central Arkansas.
I could see one of these guys getting the nod
Scott Waymire
Mark Uherin
Dustin Prescott
Matt Malham
Wes Ables
Neil Barbaree
Mark King
i don't see Waymire leaving that that $$$, Prescott's not walking through the door, Ables would be interesting.
Quote from: Hammer down on January 22, 2019, 08:36:52 am
Waymire? Would be a shock since He and his wife both have good paying admin jobs in central Arkansas.
hence my SHOCK comment. lol
If it is Waymire, he must reallllly be itching to get back into coaching. I'm sure he is living pretty comfortably compared to a lot of other educators in this state.
Quote from: OB11 on January 22, 2019, 10:30:02 am
If it is Waymire, he must reallllly be itching to get back into coaching. I'm sure he is living pretty comfortably compared to a lot of other educators in this state.
maybe he just wants to get in on the des arc owning Carlisle in football streak.... ;D ;D ;D ;D
Well good Luck too our up river neighbors in their coaching search.
I don't see Coach Waymire leaving his current job to coach a 2A school. He would take a HUGE hit to his salary. If he were to get back into coaching, I would think it would have to be at a larger school, as the salaries are much more inline with what he is currently making. But crazier things have happened...
I see Coach Uhiren has also been mentioned. I could definitely see that. DA has been very successful the last several years running a 'gound and pound' type of offense. If the powers that be are on board with sticking with that mentality (which I think they should given the amount of success they have had) then I think Mark would do well there.
Quote from: BisonFan1 on January 22, 2019, 11:19:54 am
I don't see Coach Waymire leaving his current job to coach a 2A school. He would take a HUGE hit to his salary. If he were to get back into coaching, I would think it would have to be at a larger school, as the salaries are much more inline with what he is currently making. But crazier things have happened...
I see Coach Uhiren has also been mentioned. I could definitely see that. DA has been very successful the last several years running a 'gound and pound' type of offense. If the powers that be are on board with sticking with that mentality (which I think they should given the amount of success they have had) then I think Mark would do well there.
Interest is said to be from both sides re: Waymire. That came from somebody with ties to Jville. I think, as most mentioned, it'll come down to if they can find the money.
Uhiren isn't getting this job, nor is Ables - Pick would know better than I but fairly certain first go-round there wasn't "smooth". Just two of the names mentioned previously.
Think you have to keep pattern in mind at DA. Harper was a young guy, had some HC experience if I recall at Lewisville and struggled. Did GREAT work at DA. Prescott was an assistant at Warren and Barton. Widener was an assistant at Lonoke. Hill was an assistant at DA prior to taking job, right?
I expect this to be a younger guy just based off past. Job was as attractive then as now, tbh. That is, if it's not Waymire who gets it.
Just my two cents.
Quote from: arkansasFBscoop on January 22, 2019, 12:26:33 pm
Interest is said to be from both sides re: Waymire. That came from somebody with ties to Jville. I think, as most mentioned, it'll come down to if they can find the money.
Uhiren isn't getting this job, nor is Ables - Pick would know better than I but fairly certain first go-round there wasn't "smooth". Just two of the names mentioned previously.
Think you have to keep pattern in mind at DA. Harper was a young guy, had some HC experience if I recall at Lewisville and struggled. Did GREAT work at DA. Prescott was an assistant at Warren and Barton. Widener was an assistant at Lonoke. Hill was an assistant at DA prior to taking job, right?
I expect this to be a younger guy just based off past. Job was as attractive then as now, tbh. That is, if it's not Waymire who gets it.
Just my two cents.
I can assure you, it will not be Ables. I would school choice my kids out of des arc if they did something that stupid. lol
I was told waymire was the front runner, and another name.
5 with experience, 3 without
Quote from: pick_DA_EAGLES on January 22, 2019, 02:06:00 pm
I can assure you, it will not be Ables. I would school choice my kids out of des arc if they did something that stupid. lol
I was told waymire was the front runner, and another name.
5 with experience, 3 without
PICK, I heard a name of a coach's son from that is from that area. Any truth to that?
Quote from: hogwild_82 on January 22, 2019, 02:50:33 pm
PICK, I heard a name of a coach's son from that is from that area. Any truth to that?
name?
Waymire would be a great hire, but he will have to take a major pay cut.
Hope to find out this week.
Quote from: Raging_Hornetic on January 20, 2019, 04:56:54 pm
That would be a bit underwhelming
No need to worry there Raging_Hornetic
Quote from: Cheek on January 23, 2019, 06:32:17 pm
Waymire would be a great hire, but he will have to take a major pay cut.
Not necessarily.
Quote from: pick_DA_EAGLES on January 23, 2019, 07:57:25 pm
Not necessarily.
Not necessarily what? Are you saying he would not take a pay cut? I can't imagine becoming the head football coach at a 2A school would pay close to what being the AD at a 6A school does. Even if they attached extra assignments to his contract.
Quote from: OB11 on January 24, 2019, 10:38:25 am
Not necessarily what? Are you saying he would not take a pay cut? I can't imagine becoming the head football coach at a 2A school would pay close to what being the AD at a 6A school does. Even if they attached extra assignments to his contract.
doesn't have to be a "major pay cut", and if hes not happy, then it doesn't have to be about the money.
Quote from: pick_DA_EAGLES on January 24, 2019, 10:55:47 am
doesn't have to be a "major pay cut", and if hes not happy, then it doesn't have to be about the money.
Very true.
He makes over $80,000 at Jacksonville. If DA were to create some admin space, they could get money closer.
Jacksonville is a garbage district. I would not blame anyone for leaving that situation, especially one ready to win big.
Interesting thought, though... if they'll work to create space for Waymire to make his money work, why didn't they do the same for Widener??
Quote from: arkansasFBscoop on January 24, 2019, 12:19:37 pm
He makes over $80,000 at Jacksonville. If DA were to create some admin space, they could get money closer.
Jacksonville is a garbage district. I would not blame anyone for leaving that situation, especially one ready to win big.
Interesting thought, though... if they'll work to create space for Waymire to make his money work, why didn't they do the same for Widener??
not real sure on that last question. but I do know Waymire has a connection to des arc.
Doesn't Des Arc offer free housing for their coach? Pay is deceiving from that point there is 20-25k benefit that doesn't show on the pay check.
Quote from: pick_DA_EAGLES on January 24, 2019, 12:43:16 pm
not real sure on that last question. but I do know Waymire has a connection to des arc.
Someone mentioned earlier in this thread about his spouse having a good job. DA got a spot for her?
Quote from: Sonofasonofasailor on January 24, 2019, 02:27:14 pm
Someone mentioned earlier in this thread about his spouse having a good job. DA got a spot for her?
im sure.
He would be a great hire for Des Arc that's for sure!
Have they begun to interview people yet?
Quote from: YouKnowUno on January 25, 2019, 11:24:48 am
Have they begun to interview people yet?
pretty sure they are finished. supposed to make a decision Monday night.
....
Tyler Paschal is the new Des Arc coach.
Where's he from?
As a Hazen fan, I like this hire!
Quote from: Dragon I on January 29, 2019, 07:46:42 am
Where's he from?
Hes from Brinkley. Was/is on the Razorbacks staff. His dad is Van P. who was an assistant at Barton during the hay days and head coach at Wynne.
I think it's a good hire. rephrase - it's a great hire
Quote from: pick_DA_EAGLES on January 29, 2019, 08:07:18 am
Hes from Brinkley. Was/is on the Razorbacks staff. His dad is Van P. who was an assistant at Barton during the hay days and head coach at Wynne.
Was Waymire offered or was this guy their first choice?
Quote from: Sonofasonofasailor on January 29, 2019, 09:44:48 am
Was Waymire offered or was this guy their first choice?
I know he was still in the running yesterday morning.
have to believe if Waymire wanted it, it was his.
Quote from: JohnBarleycorn on January 29, 2019, 11:38:38 am
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That's what I figured. This is an interesting hire for DA. They have a history of being a great first step for Head Coaches. But coming from a GA type spot in college to running a program will be challenging, but I'd imagine being a coaches kid that Paschal will handle it just fine.
Tyler is a good hire. He is young but experienced. He will do a good job.
Quote from: Rick Swines on January 29, 2019, 02:39:52 pm
Tyler is a good hire. He is young but experienced. He will do a good job.
What exactly is his experience? Has ever been a coordinator?
Yes. He was secondary coach at Wynne a couple years ago. I've been knowing that young man since he was a baby. He was our waterboy when I was playing at Brinkley in the late 90's and early 2000's. Very, very knowledgeable about the game. Learned from Gus when he was around the ASU program. And learned some under Morris last season. Plus, of course, his dad being a state championship winning coach is not a bad option to learn from.
Congratulations...I'm sure he will continue that winning tradition at DA
Quote from: i40traveler on January 29, 2019, 12:44:11 pm
That's what I figured. This is an interesting hire for DA. They have a history of being a great first step for Head Coaches. But coming from a GA type spot in college to running a program will be challenging, but I'd imagine being a coaches kid that Paschal will handle it just fine.
He's a bright guy and really mature. He'll be fine. He's well beyond your average GA.
What I'm interested in seeing, is the wrinkles he'll add from his stops at ASU and Arkansas. Might end up with something pretty exotic.
Will we finally see a spread from DA? I'm excited to see what this new coach brings to the offensive game.
Quote from: CaptainSwarm25 on January 30, 2019, 01:13:06 pm
Will we finally see a spread from DA? I'm excited to see what this new coach brings to the offensive game.
no
Quote from: CaptainSwarm25 on January 30, 2019, 01:13:06 pm
Will we finally see a spread from DA? I'm excited to see what this new coach brings to the offensive game.
Not if he wants to keep his job long
Quote from: i40traveler on January 30, 2019, 01:29:58 pm
Not if he wants to keep his job long
EXACTLY!!!!
we do not have the athletes to run the spread.
Quote from: pick_DA_EAGLES on January 30, 2019, 01:56:42 pm
EXACTLY!!!!
we do not have the athletes to run the spread.
Dude at Carlisle found that out last year.
HEY! Ya'll need to be quiet on here! Don't ya'll know JC lost their coach??? They are the top subject right now. Have some respect! 8) ;D
I like him he isn't as outspoken as Widener but has been a serious motivator for the boys as far as I seen watched the last 30 min of their offseason workout and he was lazer focused on increasing speed teaching them how to get faster it should be interesting how it plays out
Quote from: CaptainSwarm25 on January 30, 2019, 01:13:06 pm
Will we finally see a spread from DA? I'm excited to see what this new coach brings to the offensive game.
Didn't Des Arc try that once?
Quote from: HorseFeathers on January 30, 2019, 05:11:20 pm
Didn't Des Arc try that once?
Harper did pretty well with the spread he also had the athletes to run it as well
Quote from: CaptainSwarm25 on January 30, 2019, 01:13:06 pm
Will we finally see a spread from DA?
I haven't asked him related to this opening, but I know from talking to him in the past he really liked the double wing offense that Van ran.
Just my intuition: I would expect a run heavy approach with creative single and double wing concepts with sprinkles of zone or spread approaches to run blocking.
I would imagine that when you look at his offense on tape, you'll see some different ideas to running the ball, but running the ball nevertheless.
Quote from: Wahls on January 30, 2019, 11:23:08 pm
I haven't asked him related to this opening, but I know from talking to him in the past he really liked the double wing offense that Van ran.
Just my intuition: I would expect a run heavy approach with creative single and double wing concepts with sprinkles of zone or spread approaches to run blocking.
I would imagine that when you look at his offense on tape, you'll see some different ideas to running the ball, but running the ball nevertheless.
Just my opinion, but that would probably be his best bet at des arc. I think the spread would be career suicide. Lol
Well darn. Was hoping to see at least one 6-2A bring in a spread effectively this year....:(
Van is double slot or "flexbone" (Wynne, Harding U, Navy, Army, Georgia Tech). Double wing (think Stanley's Vilonia teams and Gosnell) is completely different and single wing (Clarksville) is completely different from both of those.
Your point is still valid, nonetheless.
I was crackin a few nattys thinkin about what he might do, so I started lookin up some statistics. Aparently, Tyler 'Magic Man' Paschal has scored a touchdown every single drive he has been involved in since he was in high school. Im starting to think that DC Brian 'The Wall' Paschal went and bought some of those glasses with a mustache. Interviewed for the HC job, and got it so he could draw two salaries. I mean I don't know for sure but I've never seen them in the same room at the same time...The Wall always has an ace up his sleeve. Gotta get back to the family reunion, my wife is starting to argue with my 2nd cousin over who is a closer cousin to me. Jokes on them, my first ex-wife was my sister.
Quote from: Coach DePriest, Shiloh Christian on January 31, 2019, 06:27:31 pm
Van is double slot or "flexbone" (Wynne, Harding U, Navy, Army, Georgia Tech). Double wing (think Stanley's Vilonia teams and Gosnell) is completely different and single wing (Clarksville) is completely different from both of those.
Your point is still valid, nonetheless.
Coach DePriest, you know I love you and respect your opinion. I've conceded to your knowledge and authority plenty of times on here.
But I gotta dissent here. I did spend a year internally. I did watch Van throw the ball 3 times a game for 2 years. I watched a WR alignment less than 5 times a game. The team I watched had no or only one WR's.
Put shortly, Van is less interested in ideology, than talent and ability. If you handed Van Ryan Mallett in HS, he's gonna throw the ball 40 times.
You reference a Paul Johnson type of Flexbone. Flexbone is (mostly) an ideology. Double wing is simply a formation. Single wing has been bastardized down into a concept where the QB runs the ball a lot between the tackles after faking a motion. These concepts are more compatible than you seem to suggest. You're still following the guard.
You're still following the FB at your own peril.
I can't guarantee that either Van or Tyler would agree with my characterization.
...BUT
I have a strong suspicion that they would.
Quote from: Wahls on January 30, 2019, 11:23:08 pm
I haven't asked him related to this opening, but I know from talking to him in the past he really liked the double wing offense that Van ran.
Just my intuition: I would expect a run heavy approach with creative single and double wing concepts with sprinkles of zone or spread approaches to run blocking.
I would imagine that when you look at his offense on tape, you'll see some different ideas to running the ball, but running the ball nevertheless.
Any more doubters?
Undefeated conference champs. Hang onto Tyler - and he's not just Van's kid:
Quote from: Wahls on January 29, 2019, 11:38:53 pm
He's a bright guy and really mature. He'll be fine. He's well beyond your average GA.
I'm telling you guys. He knows what he's doing and he's a bright guy. Any of you who know who I am and my posting history know that I don't just throw that out there. Ignore this at your own loss.
He's gonna shock you guys in 10 years with where he's at. And I'll be back quoting this post.
With a stupid, smug look on my face.
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