New year, might as well go ahead and get the new thread going. We can keep all baseball discussion, updates, scores, etc in this thread, just like last year. When it gets closer to the season I'll make some predictions and stuff.
Anyway, to start off '09 with a bang I figured I'd post this:
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YES
Too bad you don't have a PS3. ;D
Quote from: jbell96 on January 09, 2009, 11:50:25 pm
Too bad you don't have a PS3. ;D
lolwut
Other than the one I bought back in April? :)
Quote from: jbell96 on January 09, 2009, 11:50:25 pm
Too bad you don't have a PS3. ;D
In 5 months I should have one. Will be my first PS ever.
WIN on the PS3 cover...
GO REDSOX !!! ;D
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on January 10, 2009, 12:12:45 am
Quote from: jbell96 on January 09, 2009, 11:50:25 pm
Too bad you don't have a PS3. ;D
lolwut
Other than the one I bought back in April? :)
My bad, I thought you still just had your PS2.
The Red Sox signed Takashi Saito yesterday to add to an already deep bullpen. With the stacked 'pen I get the feeling someone is on their way out in a trade to Texas for Saltalamacchia. It might take Buchholz or Michael Bowden as well, but there's a decent chance it ends up happening. I doubt Varitek is coming back.
Papelbon
Masterson
Okajima
Delcarmen
Ramirez
Lopez
Saito
Now THAT, my Cardinal friends, is how you put together a bullpen.
I would like to start off my posting in this thread by saying:
Frick the cubs and everything about that awful organization.
Jim Rice! He made the HOF today by 7 votes! I'm so happy for him.
IT'S ABOUT TIME
Rice was the most feared hitter in baseball for 10 years and it took this long for him to get voted in. Unreal. I know 10 years to some may not seem long, but how many other players can claim that they were the best hitter in baseball for an entire decade?
Derek Lowe is heading to Atlanta for 4/60.
Quote from: Infamous on January 13, 2009, 02:37:00 pm
Derek Lowe is heading to Atlanta for 4/60.
I'm glad we didn't give him that type of money.
Atlanta overpaid a little bit, but they also desperately needed to do something too.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on January 12, 2009, 01:44:52 pm
Jim Rice! He made the HOF today by 7 votes! I'm so happy for him.
IT'S ABOUT TIME
Only took what, 14 years?
Also, my favorite person to listen talk got in. Ricky is happy Ricky is going in and Ricky will make a great speech, mainly about Ricky.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on January 13, 2009, 08:12:38 pm
Quote from: Infamous on January 13, 2009, 02:37:00 pm
Derek Lowe is heading to Atlanta for 4/60.
I'm glad we didn't give him that type of money.
Atlanta overpaid a little bit, but they also desperately needed to do something too.
Yep, glad we got him.
I can't believe there were writers who actually left Ricky off of their ballots. He only has more stolen bases and scored more runs than anyone who's played the game.
Maybe they just like flashier stats such as home runs and RBI's
There has never been a player be unanimously voted into the baseball HOF. Not Willie Mays. Not Babe Ruth. No one.
Quote from: RHS on January 13, 2009, 08:56:32 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on January 12, 2009, 01:44:52 pm
Jim Rice! He made the HOF today by 7 votes! I'm so happy for him.
IT'S ABOUT TIME
Also, my favorite person to listen talk got in. Ricky is happy Ricky is going in and Ricky will make a great speech, mainly about Ricky.
My favorite moment was after he broke the stolen base record when at the end of his speech he said "I am the greatest of all time. Thank you"
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on January 12, 2009, 01:17:07 am
I would like to start off my posting in this thread by saying:
Frick the cubs and everything about that awful organization.
how are they awful? they just signed milton bradley. to add some power to the middle of the lineup. they will have the best record again this season in the national league. hopefully they wont choke again
Awful = No World Series title since 1908.
The best record in the N.L. doesn't mean much if you're swept out of the playoffs.
Quote from: Peety on January 14, 2009, 11:56:34 am
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on January 12, 2009, 01:17:07 am
I would like to start off my posting in this thread by saying:
Frick the cubs and everything about that awful organization.
how are they awful? they just signed milton bradley. to add some power to the middle of the lineup. they will have the best record again this season in the national league. hopefully they wont choke again
i'm sure every team in the NL Central is shakin in their boots at that move.
Quote from: Peety on January 14, 2009, 11:56:34 am
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on January 12, 2009, 01:17:07 am
I would like to start off my posting in this thread by saying:
Frick the cubs and everything about that awful organization.
how are they awful? they just signed milton bradley. to add some power to the middle of the lineup. they will have the best record again this season in the national league. hopefully they wont choke again
They are the Cubs. It should be redundant if you call them awful.
Boston locked up another one of their young, cornerstone players today with Youk agreeing to a 4/40 extension.
Quote from: Infamous on January 15, 2009, 04:34:11 pm
Boston locked up another one of their young, cornerstone players today with Youk agreeing to a 4/40 extension.
I think I just fainted. Holy crap.
Pedroia got 6/40. Youk got 4/40. Incredible.
That's getting the job done, Theo. Now if we can just lock up Jason Bay.
Just for the heck of it, what do you think Cashman would've given Youk? 5/80? 5/100?
The Cubs were able to avoid arbitration and sign Kevin Gregg, last year's closer for the Marlins. Him and Marmol should be really good on the back end of the bullpen and as much as he was a Cub mainstay, I'm glad Kerry Wood is no longer here and closing.
We also added Orioles SP Garrett Olsen in a trade to finally get rid of Felix Pie. He was out of options back to AAA and he was never going to play especially since we signed Bradley to play RF and now Fukudome and Reed Johnson will play all the games in CF. We also signed Joey Gathright from KC and So Taguchi from Philly to provide some OF depth.
Rumors are that the prospects we picked up from Cleveland in the DeRosa trade and Olsen/other prospects we got from Baltimore in the Pie trade give us a decent shot at making a deal with SD for Peavy.
Peavy/Z/Lilly/Dempster/Harden (when not hurt) would be quite a rotation.
Isn't Gathright the guy that jumped over a car in that infamous youtube clip?
And by signing So Taguchi, you guys are assembling an ex-Cardinals wash-up team. Good riddance to that guy, I never did like him.
Quote from: SMC on January 21, 2009, 10:05:27 am
Peavy/Z/Lilly/Dempster/Harden (when not hurt) would be quite a rotation.
If this happens the Cubs will find a way to screw it up.
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on January 21, 2009, 01:14:51 pm
Isn't Gathright the guy that jumped over a car in that infamous youtube clip?
And by signing So Taguchi, you guys are assembling an ex-Cardinals wash-up team. Good riddance to that guy, I never did like him.
How did you not like So? He was one of my favorites.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on January 21, 2009, 04:02:54 pm
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on January 21, 2009, 01:14:51 pm
Isn't Gathright the guy that jumped over a car in that infamous youtube clip?
And by signing So Taguchi, you guys are assembling an ex-Cardinals wash-up team. Good riddance to that guy, I never did like him.
How did you not like So? He was one of my favorites.
So turned the tide of the 2006 NLCS with his solo home run off Billy Wagner in game 2 to help the Cards steal home field advantage.
Taguchi is a solid professional, plays good D, good contact guy. Always kinda liked him even when a Cardinal. Much rather we sign Card washups like Taguchi than those of Edmonds' ilk.
Quote from: SMC on January 21, 2009, 10:05:27 amPeavy/Z/Lilly/Dempster/Harden (when not hurt) would be quite a rotation.
The Cubs should have a rock solid rotation with or without Peavy, although it will be interesting to see if Dempster can have a year somewhat similar to his '08. I highly doubt he repeats that performance. Of course they could run into some trouble if Harden is injured again too, so I wouldn't have them as an absolute lock to run the table (during the regular season that is) but they would be my NL pick going into the season at least. They're loaded again this year.
Its Cardinal night on MLB Network! Just watched the end of the 2006 Series and they have shows and games with the Cardinals all night!
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on January 25, 2009, 08:14:08 pm
Its Cardinal night on MLB Network! Just watched the end of the 2006 Series and they have shows and games with the Cardinals all night!
Hmm. I thought the objective was to get good ratings?
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on January 25, 2009, 09:06:00 pm
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on January 25, 2009, 08:14:08 pm
Its Cardinal night on MLB Network! Just watched the end of the 2006 Series and they have shows and games with the Cardinals all night!
Hmm. I thought the objective was to get good ratings?
Got great ratings at my house.
I haven't heard the terms of the agreement, but the Royals signed Zack Greinke to a 4 year extension. Regardless of the money involved, it's good to see them make a move like this to actually improve the team. Greinke was really good for KC last year. He's got some nasty stuff.
The Yankees signed Andy Pettitte to a 1 year, $5.5M deal yesterday. Bringing him back really gives them a stacked rotation for '09. Nothing a little money can't fix, eh?
Sabathia
Burnett
Wang
Chamberlain
Pettitte
If they don't win the WS this year, it will be a FAIL of epic proportions. And I can't wait.
I'm gonna go ahead and call it. The three in the middle will spend significant time on the DL. I'm gonna say at least two months each for Chamberlain and Burnett, one month for Wang.
It was never mentioned on here, but Jason Varitek signed a 1 year/5M deal to return to the Red Sox. There's a team option for 5M for 2010 as well. I'm kind of indifferent on this. Part of me is glad he's back, mainly for his leadership qualities and the way he handles the pitching staff, but another part remembers how bad he was at the plate last year. If things don't work out this year at least we have a team option for next year that we don't have to pick up. I hope we are still able to trade for a good young catcher within the next year though.
Also, the Cubs traded SP Rich Hill to the Orioles for a PTBNL. I'm a little surprised the Cubs are giving up on Hill. He spent almost all last year in AAA, but appeared to have some pretty good upside and quality stuff. Nice pickup for Baltimore.
http://masnsports.com/2009/02/it.html
Manny turned down 1 year $25 million from the Dodgers. This after he's turned down previously a deal for 2 years and $45 million or so.
Quote from: RHS on February 04, 2009, 03:47:27 pm
Manny turned down 1 year $25 million from the Dodgers. This after he's turned down previously a deal for 2 years and $45 million or so.
He wants the be a Cardinal :)
No, Pujols wants him to be a Cardinal. Which, if the Cardinals will spend some money, then they can make it happen. Pujols and Manny are very good friends from the same place. If they get Manny then you're talking about, arguably, the best 3-4 hitting combo since Gehrig/Ruth. I mean, Pujols and Manny, very well might be the two best hitters in baseball right now.
Quote from: AB™ on February 04, 2009, 04:40:49 pm
No, Pujols wants him to be a Cardinal. Which, if the Cardinals will spend some money, then they can make it happen. Pujols and Manny are very good friends from the same place. If they get Manny then you're talking about, arguably, the best 3-4 hitting combo since Gehrig/Ruth. I mean, Pujols and Manny, very well might be the two best hitters in baseball right now.
The frustrating thing is that Albert wants it, LaRussa wants it, the fans want it. And yet the front office does nothing. JDSF"SDJ"LKSDJG"JKDSG"SILDFHG"SLDFHG!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Here's how big of a 'get' that would be for the Cardinals. They would be the favorite in the NL next year. That is how scary good of a 3-4 combo that is to have in your lineup with a Ludwick and other over acheivers. I heard some small rumblings about this a week ago. Heard that Pujols has been basically recruiting Manny but the front office isn't making a move.
Favorite in the NL? That's a sick 3-4-5 but the rest of the lineup is not that frightening and you haven't even started talking about pitching.
But don't get me wrong StL fans, I think you will be better this year than last.
Quote from: RHS on February 04, 2009, 03:47:27 pm
Manny turned down 1 year $25 million from the Dodgers. This after he's turned down previously a deal for 2 years and $45 million or so.
that selfish frick makes me sick!!!!!!
I hope Manny goes the way of Barry Bonds and doesn't play another game
almost as moronic of Latrell Spreawell saying he needs to feed his kids and can't do it on $15 mill a year ::)
They wouldn't need much pitching to compete for the NL pennant if Pujols and Manny put up their usual numbers, and Ludwick can have a repeat of his 2008 season. The Cubs are a more complete team, along with the Phillies, the most complete in the NL. But they're still the Cubs. The Phils repeating is going to be very hard, and who knows is the Mets will ever live up to their high payroll. If the Cards could land Manny then that would put them in the conversation with the NL's best. The fact they hung around in the NL Central most of the season last year, with a bunch of no names and Pujols, says quite a bit.
Quote from: SMC on February 04, 2009, 07:56:12 pm
Favorite in the NL? That's a sick 3-4-5 but the rest of the lineup is not that frightening and you haven't even started talking about pitching.
But don't get me wrong StL fans, I think you will be better this year than last.
The rest of our lineup is just fine. Pitching is going to be our downfall again and again and again.
Too bad Mulder never panned out and Carpenter can't stay off the DL.
Quote from: AB™ on February 04, 2009, 08:12:37 pm
Too bad Mulder never panned out and Carpenter can't stay off the DL.
Jeff Weaver sould have stayed in St. Louis as well. It killed his carearr to leave when Dave Duncan had him throwing like people always thought he would. Loshe should be good again and when Wainwright is healthy thats a good one two. Wellenmeyer had a solid year last year and we need that again, but he was so bad the Royals gave up on him so you never know. I would like to see us sign Looper back. We have some young talent in the minors that can be used in the pen. And Carpenter and trying Carpenter as a closer might sure up that hole.
Quote from: AB™ on February 04, 2009, 08:03:29 pm
They wouldn't need much pitching to compete for the NL pennant if Pujols and Manny put up their usual numbers, and Ludwick can have a repeat of his 2008 season. The Cubs are a more complete team, along with the Phillies, the most complete in the NL. But they're still the Cubs. The Phils repeating is going to be very hard, and who knows is the Mets will ever live up to their high payroll. If the Cards could land Manny then that would put them in the conversation with the NL's best. The fact they hung around in the NL Central most of the season last year, with a bunch of no names and Pujols, says quite a bit.
You can say the Cubs are still the Cubs but we've won the Central 2 straight years. The fault of our team is that we are a "Moneyball" team which if you've read that book you know the fate of those Oakland teams - teams built on high OBP and slugging do really well over long seasons because they put up a lot of runs. However in a short playoff series all it takes is 3 or 4 bad offensive games and you're out. That is what happened to the Cubs.
The Cubs are built to have success over a long season which is the best way to assure yourselves of making the playoffs or at least competing for a berth.
so without really saying it, you've admitted the Cubs are not built for a championship.
Quote from: SMC on February 04, 2009, 08:21:53 pm
Quote from: AB™ on February 04, 2009, 08:03:29 pm
They wouldn't need much pitching to compete for the NL pennant if Pujols and Manny put up their usual numbers, and Ludwick can have a repeat of his 2008 season. The Cubs are a more complete team, along with the Phillies, the most complete in the NL. But they're still the Cubs. The Phils repeating is going to be very hard, and who knows is the Mets will ever live up to their high payroll. If the Cards could land Manny then that would put them in the conversation with the NL's best. The fact they hung around in the NL Central most of the season last year, with a bunch of no names and Pujols, says quite a bit.
You can say the Cubs are still the Cubs but we've won the Central 2 straight years. The fault of our team is that we are a "Moneyball" team which if you've read that book you know the fate of those Oakland teams - teams built on high OBP and slugging do really well over long seasons because they put up a lot of runs. However in a short playoff series all it takes is 3 or 4 bad offensive games and you're out. That is what happened to the Cubs.
The Cubs are built to have success over a long season which is the best way to assure yourselves of making the playoffs or at least competing for a berth.
Combine a team not being built for a short series with the un-godly pressure the bleacher bums puts on the teams when they get there. So they have all that on their shoulders and they crumble.
Quote from: suspended on February 04, 2009, 08:29:25 pm
so without really saying it, you've admitted the Cubs are not built for a championship.
No, I'm saying we are built for long-term success (you do have to MAKE the playoffs do win them), but we are susceptible to getting beat in a short series if we happen to not be playing our best.
JLo, you're right about the pressure. I think the Cubs would have done a lot better in the playoffs last year if we had won the first game. We were ahead, Dempster gave up a grand slam and everyone let their head drop.
The longer we are IN the playoffs, the more chance our offense breaks out. In just 3 games, we can lose to anyone because we don't "manufacture runs" like the D'backs or Dodgers did.
I actually just bought Moneyball a couple of days ago and plan on starting it in the next day or two. The last two or three baseball books I've read make several Moneyball refrences. I do agree with and like that concept. But like you said, it is more set up to fail in the postseason.
I love Netflix. I just finished watching the entire 7th game of the 82 series and I am watching game 5 of the 85 NLCS.
GO CRAZY FOLKS GO CRAZY!
My worst fear is that Manny signs with NYY. Man I wish the freaking Dodgers and him would get something done soon. I keep thinking in the back of my head he's going to end up in New York at a discounted price. And I don't care what Brian Cashman says about not pursuing him. You know they're considering it.
If they sign Manny, then not only do they have to win the World Series, but they also have to win at least 110 games. No excuses.
Anyone else been watching the Caribbean World Series? It's live on the MLB Network. Some of the players I don't even recognize but it's awesome to see live baseball for a change. I'm itching for the season to start, which is exactly 2 months from today.
Standings:
Venezuela 4-0
Mexico 3-1
Dominican Republic 1-4
Puerto Rico 1-4
I just saw on ESPN that A-Rod tested positive for anabolic steroids in 2003, his last season with the Rangers.
Quote from: Infamous on February 07, 2009, 09:52:58 am
I just saw on ESPN that A-Rod tested positive for anabolic steroids in 2003, his last season with the Rangers.
link for the lazy
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/baseball/mlb/02/07/alex-rodriguez-steroids/index.html
Another signing I just thought of that was never discussed on here was Jon Garland signing a 1 year deal with the D-backs. Webb/Haren/Garland is a really nice 1-2-3. If they can get decent production from the back end of the rotation they've got a pretty nice shot at winning the NL West.
How about the Cardinals cutting Adam Kennedy? According to rumors, the Cards don't want to spend the money to sign a free agent 2B (like Orlando Hudson, who would be a huge upgrade) and instead want to promote from within.
The options listed on mlbtraderumors.com were Brendan Ryan, Brian Barden, Joe Thurston, Tyler Greene, and Skip Schumaker. Skip plays 2B?
I have no problem with Kennedy leaving, but why the Cardinals are paying him four million is beyond me.
Quote from: SMC on February 10, 2009, 12:01:27 am
According to rumors, the Cards don't want to spend the money
What? St. Louis doesn't want to spend money?!? No way!
But seriously, yall need to sign the O-Dawg. That would be a great move. I hope the Cardinals don't though. He's one of my favorite non-Red Sox players.
I read that Kennedy was owed 4.45M if he stayed with STL. Now that they released him, they still have to pay 4M.
What team in the world cuts their starting 2B to save less than half a million dollars?
Apparently the Cardinals. Only signing Hudson could save this dumb move by the Cards front office.
Braden Looper signed a deal with the Brewers.
Quote from: SMC on February 10, 2009, 08:36:53 pm
I read that Kennedy was owed 4.45M if he stayed with STL. Now that they released him, they still have to pay 4M.
What team in the world cuts their starting 2B to save less than half a million dollars?
Kennedy was becoming a problem in the clubhouse. He complained all last year about having to split time at 2nd so we decided to cut our losses.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on February 11, 2009, 08:57:39 am
Braden Looper signed a deal with the Brewers.
Lose Sabathia and Sheets, sign....Looper?
LOL Brewers
To me, Braden Looper = Jeff Suppan
Abreu has agreed to a one year deal with the Angels. Yanks losing some pop out of their lineup, but Abreu wasn't expected to be around next year anyway.
Abreu is decent but aging. Nice pickup for the Halos as a stop gap.
Abreau somewhat feels the void left behind by Tex.
Nice pickup by LAA.
Adam Dunn also signed a 2/20 with the Nationals.
Quote from: SMC on February 11, 2009, 09:58:29 am
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on February 11, 2009, 08:57:39 am
Braden Looper signed a deal with the Brewers.
Lose Sabathia and Sheets, sign....Looper?
LOL Brewers
Aside from the Cubs (who may run away with it) I think the NL Central has the potential to regress back to terrible status again. The Cardinals have done nothing significant, Brewers done nothing, Astros aren't anything special, Reds suck, and Pirates suck.
Josh, you forget the Cardinals dropped Izzy, and as we all know that is addition by subtraction.
The Cubs should be better as we got more balance in the lineup with 2 LH bats (Bradley and Fontenot, who will start since we shipped DeRosa). Marmol and Gregg is an upgrade at closer over Wood. Starting rotation is still very good, even if Harden spends time on the DL. The lineup has more pop too since we have Bradley and Fukudome in RF/CF instead of Fukudome and Reed Johnson/Jim Edmonds.
The Brewers still can hit a ton but their pitching staff is not good enough. I will be really disappointed if either they or the Cardinals are still pushing the Cubs into September.
The PECOTA predictions by Baseball America has the NL Central turning out like this, which I think is a fairly accurate guess at this point:
Cubs 95-67
Brewers 83-79
Cardinals 80-82
Reds 79-83
Astros 66-96
Pirates 65-97
For the record, here are their other predictions:
NL East
Mets 93-69
Braves 88-74
Phillies 88-74
Nationals 78-84
Marlins 74-88
NL West
D'backs 90-72
Dodgers 84-78
Giants 79-83
Rockies 78-84
Padres 74-88
AL East
Red Sox 98-64
Yankees 97-65
Rays 92-70
Blue Jays 81-81
Orioles 76-86
AL Central
Indians 84-78
Twins 79-83
Tigers 78-84
Royals 75-87
White Sox 74-88
AL West
A's 82-80
Angels 79-83
Rangers 73-89
Mariners 70-92
What in the world is possessing them to think we will finish 88-74 and tied with the Phillies? We didn't improve in the offseason and don't have a big bat in the middle of the lineup to put any kind of fear in opposing pitchers. I'm still as upset with our front office this year as I have been in quite some time. I'm starting to get a very short fuse with them.
Well they predict you to have better pitching/D than Philly. But the Phils to obviously have a better offense.
This is their Runs Scored/Runs Allowed prediction for the NLE.
Mets 833/713
Braves 818/742
Phillies 837/756
Nats 780/808
Marlins 767/819
They also have the Braves pegged for the highest team OBP in the NLE so maybe they have you guys scratching out some small-ball wins.
We've got a pretty ideal lineup to play Beane Ball. Not much pop though. A lot of our wins are going to have to be by manufacturing runs, our rotation being steady and having a steady bullpen. We suffered a ton of injuries to the entire pitching staff, that at one point in the season I recoginzed two pitchers that were on the opening day roster. I think we can be solid and play above .500 ball this year if we stay healthy. We have added some decent arms to the pitching staff. We'll have to see.
acctually a lil shocked they got the redsox ahead of the yanks *which im not complaining about btw* but after the NYSKANKEES opened up there checkbooks about everybody has picked them...however...GO REDSOX!!! ;D
Also, today, Dunn signed a 2/20 deal with the Nationals.
Quote from: CHSBISON77 on February 11, 2009, 09:20:15 pm
acctually a lil shocked they got the redsox ahead of the yanks *which im not complaining about btw* but after the NYSKANKEES opened up there checkbooks about everybody has picked them...however...GO REDSOX!!! ;D
Doesn't shock me, the Yankees haven't proved anything yet except that they can spend money.
Griffey is supposed to make his decision on either Atlanta or Seattle today.
I'm not trying to sound negative, but I really don't think it's a very impactful move regardless of which team he picks. He's not even an everyday player any more. I'm sure it would sell some tickets, but in the big picture I don't think it's that big of a deal.
If only Atlanta had tried to make this move 10 years ago. I guess I still wouldn't mind having him but it's not the end of the world if we don't get him.
Quote from: AB™ on February 17, 2009, 02:09:57 pm
If only Atlanta had tried to make this move 10 years ago. I guess I still wouldn't mind having him but it's not the end of the world if we don't get him.
I don't see how getting him would help us. Maybe in terms of leadership in the clubhouse but I don't see much other benefit from acquiring him.
He isn't going to do much in the way of contributing at the plate if we get him.
Who is Atlanta's starting outfield? I had Francouer on my fantasy team a couple years ago and he drove in 100 runs. Then last year he got sent to the minors. Maybe Griffey can at least be a mentor for them.
I think I want to punch Bud Selig more than anyone else that has been implicated in the steroids fiasco. Him and the leader of the players union who fought so hard against testing.
The players really got the owners by the balls after the 94 strike. The owners had to get the players back so bad they agreed to whatever the players wanted (no salary cap, no testing). And people wonder why it got out of control.
Quote from: SMC on February 17, 2009, 08:39:26 pm
Who is Atlanta's starting outfield? I had Francouer on my fantasy team a couple years ago and he drove in 100 runs. Then last year he got sent to the minors. Maybe Griffey can at least be a mentor for them.
Um, Francoeur, Matt Diaz, and Brandon Jones are the main three I can think of. Griffey would play some, I just don't think signing him is anything to get excited about. Heck, if I was a Braves fan I'd probably rather not sign him so they could play some of the young guys and give them a shot.
Quote from: SMC on February 17, 2009, 08:39:26 pm
Who is Atlanta's starting outfield? I had Francouer on my fantasy team a couple years ago and he drove in 100 runs. Then last year he got sent to the minors. Maybe Griffey can at least be a mentor for them.
It depends really. Griffey probably wouldn't be a full-time starter. Taking days off againt righties. Franceour really has surprised me with how much he has declined as an all-around player since his breakout rookie campaign where he showed signs of not only being a great fielder but very productive at the plate. Now he's going to have to perform pretty well in spring training to beat out Jason Heyward. Really there are 5 or 6 options to stick in the out field. None of which are big names and won't be a real fantasy player. We do have some very promising prospects, that if a couple of them have a breakout year, could go a long way in being the difference between us flirting with .500 and flirting with the wildcard.
I think it'll look something like this, if we sign Griffey, which some reports seem to have us as the favorite.
LF - Matt Diaz/Griffey
CF - Josh Anderson/Jason Schafer(CF of the future. Promising prospect who got caught up in HGH allegations a year ago bu
RF - Francoeur/Jason Heyward(Francoeur isn't a lock. Heyward is another prospect with potential to be good.)
Then you've got Gregor Blanco and Brandon Jones that will probably see some time in the OF this season as well.
Why would you take Griffey out against righties, since he is a lefty?
I meant the other way around. My bad. I do think, right now, we are going to land him though. Again, nothing to be too excited about. But you never know, it could be a pleasant surprise in the end.
Has Griffey ever played LF before? I know he was playing RF the last few years for the Reds and Sox.
Can this Heyward guy play LF?
Some of the Braves blogs I read seem to think we'll have him in LF if we get him. I'm not putting full stock into those, but there was more than one that had him splitting time in left and/or right field in the 2009 projected starting lineups. I guess we won't really know until we get him and see what Cox wants to do. As for Heyward I'm not really sure. My guess is he can play either corner outfield position. I don't even see how playing LF can be much different than RF other than getting used to certain dimensions in different parks. All I go on is following two or three of the more popular and most read Braves Blogs, and all of them, at some point and time this offseason, have spoke very highly of Heyward and Schafer. We seem to be going with a youth movement which is ok with me, if we lock up McCann, Johnson, and Escobar, to long term deals. We have a pretty solid farm system with some very good prospects. Tommy Hanson is supposed to be a stud pitching prospect. He's a big reason we didn't pull the trigger on the Peavy deal. He along with either Escobar or Johnson were who the Padres were wanting in return. I hope he is as good as he has been advertised to be. He better be since we kept him and passed on Peavy.
Looks like Griffey had been holding out waiting for the Mariners offer. It was reported that Atlanta seemed to have a great chance at getting him but now it is being reported he signed a one year deal with Seattle.
Yes, I'm so happy Griffey is back with the Mariners.
It's where he belongs. I understood Cincy since he was going to be close to his father. Atlanta would have made no sense.
Quote from: RHS on February 19, 2009, 11:23:26 pm
It's where he belongs. I understood Cincy since he was going to be close to his father. Atlanta would have made no sense.
Atlanta's spring training site is in Orlando, which is where he lives. Also, Atlanta is only an hour flight from there. The only reason he considered them was because of his family and that he likes Bobby Cox. Apparently the thing that sealed the deal was a conversation that Willie Mays had with him that was set up by Harold Reynolds.
Wonder what was said in that conversation. He'd look weird in a Braves uni.
Dodgers sign the O-Dawg Orlando Hudson 1/3.8M deal.
Twins sign Joe Crede 1/2.5M deal. I like both of these moves.
My dad just told me about the Crede deal earlier. Of course he signs with another team this year. Because last year I drafted Josh Fields, expecting him to start at 3B, and Crede to DH. Every magazine I read, and everything I read online, said Fields was the probably starting 3B this year, because he came along during the second half of the 2007 season and put up good numbers. Instead, he spends all of the 2008 season playing minor league ball. I'm in a fantasy league where you aren't allowed to make any transactions. So I'm stuck with my starting 3B in the minors, along with my starting catcher spending part of the season in the minors. That was just enough to keep me out of the top three and finish in the money. Scary thing is, the rest of my team was good enough, that I floated between 2nd and 4th all year long.
Spring Training starts today. So far it has been exciting for me as my cousin threw a scorless 4th inning against the Cardinals today in Jupiter.
Did he punch anyone out?
Quote from: SMC on February 25, 2009, 01:40:48 pm
Did he punch anyone out?
Negative. Chris Duncan got a hit then Uggla made an error Greene got on. He then got LaRue and Mather to ground out and Skip flew out to left.
Is Duncan going to be starting this year for STL? I know he got sent down at one point last year.
Quote from: SMC on February 25, 2009, 02:16:33 pm
Is Duncan going to be starting this year for STL? I know he got sent down at one point last year.
He was having major neck problems last year, but he had surgery near the end of the season, to put a titanium disk in his neck to alleviate the pain. He'll probably platoon in the outfield.
Quote from: SMC on February 25, 2009, 02:16:33 pm
Is Duncan going to be starting this year for STL? I know he got sent down at one point last year.
Its probably going to be Rasmus, Ankiel, and Ludwick with Duncan as the backup.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on February 26, 2009, 12:49:16 am
Quote from: SMC on February 25, 2009, 02:16:33 pm
Is Duncan going to be starting this year for STL? I know he got sent down at one point last year.
Its probably going to be Rasmus, Ankiel, and Ludwick with Duncan as the backup.
Depends on if Ludwick continues to be an All-Star Caliber player.
Quote from: Ty on February 26, 2009, 02:19:46 am
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on February 26, 2009, 12:49:16 am
Quote from: SMC on February 25, 2009, 02:16:33 pm
Is Duncan going to be starting this year for STL? I know he got sent down at one point last year.
Its probably going to be Rasmus, Ankiel, and Ludwick with Duncan as the backup.
Depends on if Ludwick continues to be an All-Star Caliber player.
Ludwick is a lock as a starter.
Ludwick can mash. If La Russa doesn't start him and hit him cleanup all year then he's lost the plot.
Quote from: SMC on February 26, 2009, 10:07:19 am
Ludwick can mash. If La Russa doesn't start him and hit him cleanup all year then he's lost the plot.
He had to fight the last two years tooth and nail to stay in the lineup even after hitting huge HR after huge HR. La Russa just freakn loves those old vet players that are going to hit a whopping .150 (Russel Branyon I'm looking at you)
La Russa probably hates Ludwick because he can't play 1B, 2B, 3B, LF, RF, and bullpen catcher.
I am so surprised that he let Miles leave and sign with the Cubs. I always thought La Russa would sign 20 Aaron Mileses if he could.
Quote from: SMC on February 26, 2009, 02:07:45 pm
La Russa probably hates Ludwick because he can't play 1B, 2B, 3B, LF, RF, and bullpen catcher.
I am so surprised that he let Miles leave and sign with the Cubs. I always thought La Russa would sign 20 Aaron Mileses if he could.
Miles was one of my favorites so it sucks to see him have to suffer in that uniform. I really respect what Tony has done for us but I cant stand most of what he does.
I'm beginning to wonder if Manny will ever sign with LAD.
Until he signs the Yankees are going to be in the back of my mind. I'm still afraid they're going to swoop in and get him.
I'm losing more & more respect for Manny as each day passes.
If I were the Dodgers, I would just part ways with Manny, and let the door hit him and Boras on the way out. What more does he want? Every other team has told him no. I think the longer this thing drags on the bigger player the Yankees become.
I wouldn't mind seeing Manny go back to the AL at all. Without him the Dodgers are not a legit contender in the playoffs anymore, and I would be down with that.
Everyone talks about how higher salaries in baseball (and other sports for that matter, but some have a cap) are due to owners spending money like it's going out of style, but it's because of agents like Boras and Rosenhaus. They sit there and pump their guy up so much and shop them around to make teams have to poney up more than they should (which is their job, to get the most for the player they can) but that is why salaries are out of control.
In 3 Nights in August, La Russa talks about the changing culture in baseball with how the clubhouse interacts and the rise of salaries and also talks about how he loves Pujols because he cares about the game more than the money (in his thought process anyway).
Quote from: RHS on February 27, 2009, 09:37:30 pm
Everyone talks about how higher salaries in baseball (and other sports for that matter, but some have a cap) are due to owners spending money like it's going out of style, but it's because of agents like Boras and Rosenhaus. They sit there and pump their guy up so much and shop them around to make teams have to poney up more than they should (which is their job, to get the most for the player they can) but that is why salaries are out of control.
In 3 Nights in August, La Russa talks about the changing culture in baseball with how the clubhouse interacts and the rise of salaries and also talks about how he loves Pujols because he cares about the game more than the money (in his thought process anyway).
3 Nights In August is an awesome book. A friend got me the audio copy when I was deployed. It gave me a new found respect for the madness that goes on in La Russa's mind.
Yeah, even though they talk alot about what he does during a game and what goes through his mind, I'm not sure it was anywhere close to 100% of what he actually thinks about. He agonizes over EVERYTHING.
Buzz Bissinger is a great author of sports books. 3 Nights in August and Friday Night Lights are two of my favorites.
Quote from: SMC on February 27, 2009, 05:25:11 pm
I wouldn't mind seeing Manny go back to the AL at all. Without him the Dodgers are not a legit contender in the playoffs anymore, and I would be down with that.
That's alright, the AL is good enough. Lets just let Manny stay in the NL and call it a deal.
The Yankees are the only AL team he might sign with. If that happens I may lose my sanity.
I almost bought 3 Nights in August last week. I'm guessing it's a good read? I don't like the Cardinals but I still may have to read this one.
I'm finally into Moneyball. I'm about halfway done with it right now.
Yeah, it's pretty good reading material.
Scott Hatteberg, Pickin Machine!
Orlando Cabrera signed with the A's. Oakland has made some nice offseason pickups. They always compete with a roster that doesn't look great on paper to an average joe baseball fan, but they may have enough now to unseat the Angels atop the West this year.
I know my boy GWB has to be stoked for the A's upcoming season moreso than years past. They will be an exciting team.
Also, I got to catch about 30 minutes of this 2 hour documentary called "We Are Young: A Baseball Family" on MLB Network tonight. Did anyone else see this? It was about Dmitri and Delmon Young and their on and off the field troubles they ran into during the 2006 season. From what I saw, it was a REALLY good show. The next time it airs is sometime Sunday afternoon I believe. I'm recording it for then. I encourage everyone to check it out. It seriously was awesome. Plus, who doesn't love Da Meat Hook?
I'll have to set the DVR to record that. I've been watching all the "30 Teams in 30 Days" episodes I have taped. So far I've watched the Twins, Tigers, Yankees, Red Sox, and Braves.
Quote from: AB™ on March 02, 2009, 11:21:15 pm
I've been watching all the "30 Teams in 30 Days" episodes I have taped. So far I've watched the Twins, Tigers, Yankees, Red Sox, and Braves.
I've been watching a bunch of those too. Really good stuff.
You can't beat a channel that has Harold Reynolds on it every day.
I met a guy at the Hog game yesterday that designed a trivia question set for the Yankees. He was gonna do the Sox too but another guy got it.
Manny to the Dodgers per ESPN at 2/45.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on March 03, 2009, 08:17:41 pm
Manny to the Dodgers per ESPN at 2/45.
Did they put their offer back on the table or was it a new offer?
Quote from: RHS on March 03, 2009, 08:49:52 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on March 03, 2009, 08:17:41 pm
Manny to the Dodgers per ESPN at 2/45.
Did they put their offer back on the table or was it a new offer?
The offered 2/45 17 times.
I am just glad I don't have to turn on Sportscenter and hear about this crap every five minutes.
Not so fast:
QuoteAgent Scott Boras has denied that any Manny Ramirez deal is in place with the Dodgers, and ESPN has retracted their initial report. Sort of. Enrique Rojas, who previously said it was agreed to, is now reporting that the two sides have "finally reached some common ground in their negotiations." That's ESPN speak for "we blew it, but we're going to do our best not to admit it." It's probably only a matter of time until something does get done here, and we'll trust SI.com's Jon Heyman, the unofficial mouthpiece of Boras Corp., to have the scoop.
I know on the radio last night they talked about how nobody from the Dodgers had confirmed it.
ESPN was confirming again this afternoon. I'm assuming it is a done deal now.
A-Rod having surgery and out 10 weeks. Ha!
http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/
Karma, gotta love it! ;D
Well played, Jimmy Edmonds.
http://deadspin.com/5165169/jim-edmonds-would-like-to-invite-you-to-his-stripper-battle-royal
(http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/2009/03/custom_1236288161558_edmonds.jpg)
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on March 05, 2009, 04:55:54 pm
Well played, Jimmy Edmonds.
http://deadspin.com/5165169/jim-edmonds-would-like-to-invite-you-to-his-stripper-battle-royal
(http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/2009/03/custom_1236288161558_edmonds.jpg)
There is a reason he has been my favorite Cardinal for a while............
I've been reading Summer of 49.
Never knew Atkins sent a player to the pros, much less the Boston Red Sox.
The Twins made a really nice move today, locking up Scott Baker to a 4/15 contract. Good value at low cost.
La Russa got his LOOGY, in Denny Reyes. LHB only hit .202/.250/.287 off him last year.
Yes. Yes. Yes.
Jon Lester signs a 5 year $30M extension with the Red Sox.
So to recap the last few incredible extensions Theo has handed out this off-season:
Kevin Youkilis - 4/40
Dustin Pedroia - 6/40
Jon Lester - 5/30
So wait, you mean we can have Youk, Pedroia, AND Lester for the same price the Yankees are paying Teixeira? Why yes, yes we can.
My cousin threw another inning of scoreless baseball yesterday against the O's.
Suck on it Red Sox. ;D Cards beat the Bad Guys 4-2 today. Chris Carpenter threw four sharp innings of scoreless ball.
Enjoy your spring training win cause you won't get any when it matters, that's been established.
Quote from: jbell96 on March 12, 2009, 04:02:12 pm
Suck on it Red Sox. ;D Cards beat the Bad Guys 4-2 today. Chris Carpenter threw four sharp innings of scoreless ball.
Kings of the spring!
Have fun with another mediocre season in the worst division in baseball. I can't wait. :)
Quote from: RHS on March 12, 2009, 05:28:25 pm
Enjoy your spring training win cause you won't get any when it matters, that's been established.
Really? I recall 11 wins when it mattered in 2006.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on March 13, 2009, 01:14:12 am
Quote from: jbell96 on March 12, 2009, 04:02:12 pm
Suck on it Red Sox. ;D Cards beat the Bad Guys 4-2 today. Chris Carpenter threw four sharp innings of scoreless ball.
Kings of the spring!
Have fun with another mediocre season in the worst division in baseball. I can't wait. :)
I wouldn't say it's the worst division in baseball. But it's definitely the second worst. The NL West is very mediocre or even below average. I think the Cubs, Cardinals, and Astros will be solid this year. I don't know if the Brewers can be what they've been the last several years without Sabathia and Sheets but they still might be solid. And call me crazy, and this is going waaay out on a limb, but I think the Reds could surprise some people. I'm not saying they'll make the playoffs or even flirt with the playoffs. But they've got some good young talent and if that talent plays up to its potential I could see them flirting with the top teams in the division up until the All-Star break, ala the Marlins of the last several years. Then again they may go something like 66-96 and finish way back in 5th place of the division.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on March 13, 2009, 01:14:12 am
Quote from: jbell96 on March 12, 2009, 04:02:12 pm
Suck on it Red Sox. ;D Cards beat the Bad Guys 4-2 today. Chris Carpenter threw four sharp innings of scoreless ball.
Kings of the spring!
Have fun with another mediocre season in the worst division in baseball. I can't wait. :)
The AL West begs to differ sir. One team above .500 while the NL Central had 4 of its 6 teams above .500. Kinda hard to do that unless you are owning the teams outside of your division.
I think the NL Central is definitely better than the West, and isn't that far behind the East.
And yes, the AL West is terrible.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on March 13, 2009, 01:31:49 am
Quote from: RHS on March 12, 2009, 05:28:25 pm
Enjoy your spring training win cause you won't get any when it matters, that's been established.
Really? I recall 11 wins when it mattered in 2006.
Established? You surely don't mean the team with the most world series titles in the NL can't win when it matters do you? ;D
EDIT: J-Lo, my comments were towards Kirk not you.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on March 13, 2009, 06:21:23 amThe AL West begs to differ sir. One team above .500 while the NL Central had 4 of its 6 teams above .500. Kinda hard to do that unless you are owning the teams outside of your division.
The AL West wasn't that good last year, but I was talking about the NL Central being the worst division in '09. Pretty much everyone but the Cubs got worse over the off-season. If Chicago doesn't run away with the division I'll be shocked. I agree with AB that the Reds could be a team to watch out for, but they also have Dusty Baker managing them so you have to factor that in too. With that said, who else in that division is going to be good?
I'd even say the NL West is better than the Central. The Giants could be a sleeper team with their pitching staff (if healthy), LA brought back Manny, Colorado has a rotation that could be good, and Arizona has a dominant 1-2 punch with Webb and Haren. So right now, I'd take the West over the Central.
As for the AL West, it should be significantly better this year. Oakland and Texas especially.
I don't think the Cardinals got worse but they didn't get better. If Ludwick can have another MVP caliber season then they may push the Cubs most of the season.
Like Peter Gammons said, if the Cardinals have Carpenter & Wainwright healthy all season they will contend in the Central.
Cardinals' lineup is not good enough. Who will be in the bullpen? Who will play 2B? Will Molina and Greene give them anything offensively? Can Duncan stay in the majors all year? Does anyone expect Lohse or Wellemyer to replicate their seasons of last year?
I think they will contend with the Reds and Brewers but the complete package of all 3 of those teams are way off what the Cubs have.
Quote from: SMC on March 13, 2009, 05:22:54 pm
Cardinals' lineup is not good enough. Who will be in the bullpen? Who will play 2B? Will Molina and Greene give them anything offensively? Can Duncan stay in the majors all year? Does anyone expect Lohse or Wellemyer to replicate their seasons of last year?
I think they will contend with the Reds and Brewers but the complete package of all 3 of those teams are way off what the Cubs have.
We have a solid lineup. Remember Molina hit .300 last year. And with Duncan as a pitching coach I wouldn't expect a big drop off with Lohse or Wellemyer. Our bullpen is a lot stronger this season with a couple nice additions. Plus the Cubs cant handle pressure and you can bet there will be a lot of it from opening day on.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on March 13, 2009, 09:35:06 pmAnd with Duncan as a pitching coach I wouldn't expect a big drop off with Lohse or Wellemyer.
After reading 3 Nights in August, I agree. It talks about all the careers that Duncan resurected throughout his stops with LaRussa.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on March 13, 2009, 09:35:06 pmPlus the Cubs cant handle pressure and you can bet there will be a lot of it from opening day on.
No, the Cubs can't handle
postseason pressure. They do fine during the regular season as evidenced by the last 2 years. It's the playoffs when they break down. Wouldn't surprise me if this Cubs team won 100 games.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on March 13, 2009, 11:38:09 pm
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on March 13, 2009, 09:35:06 pmPlus the Cubs cant handle pressure and you can bet there will be a lot of it from opening day on.
No, the Cubs can't handle postseason pressure. They do fine during the regular season as evidenced by the last 2 years. It's the playoffs when they break down. Wouldn't surprise me if this Cubs team won 100 games.
If we give them a serious run in September (we really didn't the last two years) you will see them crumble. Heck their closer is already blowing saves. :D
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on March 13, 2009, 11:38:09 pm
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on March 13, 2009, 09:35:06 pmPlus the Cubs cant handle pressure and you can bet there will be a lot of it from opening day on.
No, the Cubs can't handle postseason pressure. They do fine during the regular season as evidenced by the last 2 years. It's the playoffs when they break down. Wouldn't surprise me if this Cubs team won 100 games.
Finally someone gets it.
Not like Milwaukee wasn't seriously pushing us the last 2 years. But when we see the mighty red and white we will just pee down our legs I'm sure.
The regular season is a marathon, in which the team built the best wins. The playoffs are a sprint, who's hot in October. I am supremely confident we will win the division again, barring a bunch of injuries. We just have to be playing well in October.
I think the Cubs are going to win the division as well. But if we are a legit threat in September I wouldn't bet against us. I mean fate is usually on our side.
My cousin pitched against the Twins today, 1 inning allowed 1 hit 1 walk and 1 strikeout while only facing four batters. He also picked up his first win of the Spring.
http://florida.marlins.mlb.com/news/boxscore.jsp?gid=2009_03_14_flomlb_minmlb_1
Also he has yet to allow a run all spring. I wish the Marlins would get him in more games.
Quote from: RHS on March 12, 2009, 05:28:25 pm
Enjoy your spring training win cause you won't get any when it matters, that's been established.
Considering that they Cardinals have the second most World Series titles, I think they have proven they can win when it matters.
Quote from: Ty on March 14, 2009, 03:41:15 pm
Quote from: RHS on March 12, 2009, 05:28:25 pm
Enjoy your spring training win cause you won't get any when it matters, that's been established.
Considering that they Cardinals have the second most World Series titles, I think they have proven they can win when it matters.
You sound like Cowboy fans crowing about 5 SB's.
I guess nobody can talk crap about the Canadiens or whoever has 23 Stanley Cups can they?
Quote from: RHS on March 14, 2009, 04:27:16 pm
Quote from: Ty on March 14, 2009, 03:41:15 pm
Quote from: RHS on March 12, 2009, 05:28:25 pm
Enjoy your spring training win cause you won't get any when it matters, that's been established.
Considering that they Cardinals have the second most World Series titles, I think they have proven they can win when it matters.
You sound like Cowboy fans crowing about 5 SB's.
I guess nobody can talk crap about the Canadiens or whoever has 23 Stanley Cups can they?
I guess that one in 2006 wasn't recent or anything.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on March 14, 2009, 05:25:25 pm
Quote from: RHS on March 14, 2009, 04:27:16 pm
Quote from: Ty on March 14, 2009, 03:41:15 pm
Quote from: RHS on March 12, 2009, 05:28:25 pm
Enjoy your spring training win cause you won't get any when it matters, that's been established.
Considering that they Cardinals have the second most World Series titles, I think they have proven they can win when it matters.
You sound like Cowboy fans crowing about 5 SB's.
I guess nobody can talk crap about the Canadiens or whoever has 23 Stanley Cups can they?
I guess that one in 2006 wasn't recent or anything.
Kinda what I was thinking.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on March 14, 2009, 05:25:25 pm
Quote from: RHS on March 14, 2009, 04:27:16 pm
Quote from: Ty on March 14, 2009, 03:41:15 pm
Quote from: RHS on March 12, 2009, 05:28:25 pm
Enjoy your spring training win cause you won't get any when it matters, that's been established.
Considering that they Cardinals have the second most World Series titles, I think they have proven they can win when it matters.
You sound like Cowboy fans crowing about 5 SB's.
I guess nobody can talk crap about the Canadiens or whoever has 23 Stanley Cups can they?
I guess that one in 2006 wasn't recent or anything.
Not really. :D
Before the Cards won it in 2006 about every Cardinal fan on here was using the "second most world series" thing all the time. You have to go back to what, '80 or '81, to get to the Cardinals last World Series. 2006 does make playing that card much more viable.
Quote from: AB™ on March 14, 2009, 09:40:11 pm
Before the Cards won it in 2006 about every Cardinal fan on here was using the "second most world series" thing all the time. You have to go back to what, '80 or '81, to get to the Cardinals last World Series. 2006 does make playing that card much more viable.
I think 82, then back to 67.
That's 3 in 42 years. At least the Cowboys got three in the last 2 decades.
10 World titles are 10 World titles. It doesn't really matter when you get them.
Thats fine guys, think of it however you want. Just remember if you combine the Braves and Red Sox titles you are still behind us.
Yeah, but I don't bring up the Braves total World Series in arguments all the time. ;D
We don't have nearly enough to do so but the Braves do have the distinction of a winning a World Series in three different cities. ;) I'm pretty sure they won one while in Boston anyway.
Josh, and other Sox fans might enjoy this.
Here's some "behind the scenes" footage of Pedroia taking BP in a batting cage.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiKVooUg_VY&feature=related
Found this picture of Pedoria.
http://www.diehardfans.com/mlb/teams_38/dhf_82749_l.JPG
Sorry. I can't really make out what any of the words say. Too small.
Quote from: AB™ on March 17, 2009, 02:18:23 pm
Josh, and other Sox fans might enjoy this.
Here's some "behind the scenes" footage of Pedroia taking BP in a batting cage.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiKVooUg_VY&feature=related
I found a video of a kid earlier that was throwing or attempting to throw a splitter.
HE WAS 9!! Kids gonna end up with a jacked up arm.
Take 2.
A story for all you Cardinal fans.
LAKELAND, FLA. -- Nothing Jess Todd throws is straight, but his path to the big leagues might be.
The 2007 second-round Draft pick made a beeline toward the bigs in 2008, his first full season as a pro. The Arkansas product pitched at three levels, finishing with Triple-A Memphis. He was named to the all-star teams in the Florida State and Texas Leagues along the way and finished with a 2.88 ERA over 153 innings pitched. He struck out 136, walked 42 and allowed opponents to hit just .213 against him.
"It happened so fast, that was probably the best thing," said Todd, 22. "I went into Spring Training hoping to start in low A[-ball] and maybe end in high A. I didn't expect to start in high A and finish in Triple-A. It's still a whirlwind to think about it. But I have to forget about last season and start over again."
Todd will be doing it just a phone call away thanks to his 2008 campaign and with a spring's worth of big league camp experience to take with him. Todd pitched in four games -- the most recent outing a late stint against the Phillies in Clearwater, Fla., on Sunday -- and threw a total of 6 1/3 innings before being assigned to Minor League camp on Monday. More than the game time on the mound, though, he's been able to soak up the experience and wisdom of the other pitchers on the staff.
"I'm learning a lot," Todd said. "You learn a lot if you open up your ears. I try to pick everybody's brain. It's pretty special when you have people who've been part of a World Series championship, somebody's who's won a Cy Young [Award]. That doesn't happen every day."
It's been a good experience for the Cardinals staff to see what Todd can do in this setting as well. Everything the right-hander throws has some movement, highlighted by a cutter that's killer on right-handers. He's also got a good slider and a sinker and he's working on being tougher against lefties. Todd's extremely competitive on the mound and goes right after hitters. His effort hasn't been lost on the big league decision-makers.
"I wouldn't describe how close he is, but it's the first time he's been in big league camp getting innings and he's been impressive," manager Tony La Russa said. "It has to do with competition down in the Minor Leagues, where he goes and how he progresses. But he was impressive here."
Todd is a little more critical of his own performance, particularly about his outing against the Phillies, during which he gave up a game-winning hit to lose the game in the bottom of the ninth. It pinpointed to Todd exactly what it is he needs to refine in order to be ready if and when the Cardinals call him up to help in St. Louis.
"It didn't go too well," Todd said of his final big league outing that saw him walk two and fall behind several hitters. "I was all over the place and couldn't throw strikes. They tried to do me a favor by bunting, but I couldn't throw a strike so [Jason Ellison] could get it down. He ended up getting the game-winning hit. It was just one of those days. You throw something up there and it doesn't feel good.
"The biggest part is command and getting ahead of hitters. That's pretty much what pitching is: getting ahead and staying ahead."
All four of Todd's outings this spring have come in relief after 2008 saw him make all but four of his 28 appearances as a starter. There are those who have seen Todd, because of his size, arsenal and delivery, as a reliever long-term. At the same time, he showed durability last year and the ability to maintain his stuff deep into games. During Todd's amateur career, he's both started games and closed them. That kind of flexibility can come in handy as Todd now prepares for the Triple-A season and waits for that first call up to St. Louis.
"Wherever there's an opening," Todd said about his preference. "It doesn't matter if it's starting or relieving as long as I'm on the staff.
"It's something you dream about when you're a little kid. Not many people have the chance to do what we're doing right now. I just hope I get that chance."
Dear NL Central,
Chris Carpenter is back.
Luv
Cardinal Fans
http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/commishs-hot-stove/commishs-hot-stove/cardinal-beat-updates/2009/03/chris-carpenter-cruises-first-to-complete-6-innings/
Julian Tavarez explains why he signed with the Nationals:
Quote"Why did I sign with the Nationals?" Tavarez said told a group of reporters. "When you go to a club at 4 in the morning, and you're just waiting, waiting, a 600-pounder looks like J. Lo. And to me this is Jennifer Lopez right here. It's 4 in the morning. Too much to drink. So, Nationals: Jennifer Lopez to me."
Gotta love JT. One of the funnier players around the league.
Bet the Nats fans loved that description.
Quote from: SMC on March 18, 2009, 06:56:21 pm
Bet the Nats fans loved that description.
All four of them.
Quote from: RHS on March 18, 2009, 11:33:11 pm
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on March 18, 2009, 10:52:57 pm
Quote from: SMC on March 18, 2009, 06:56:21 pm
Bet the Nats fans loved that description.
All four of them.
That's about 3 more than the Marlins have.
I know there are at least 4 Marlins fans in my house :)
The Marlins are my sleeper team in the NL this year.
Hanley, Uggla, Cantu, Ross, Maybin, Hermida. Nolaso, Johnson, Miller, Volstad.
I could see them in the wild card hunt.
Quote from: SMC on March 19, 2009, 12:18:38 am
The Marlins are my sleeper team in the NL this year.
Hanley, Uggla, Cantu, Ross, Maybin, Hermida. Nolaso, Johnson, Miller, Volstad.
I could see them in the wild card hunt.
That lineup is going to mash. If the young arms live up to their potential they are going to make a run.
I wish they hadn't traded Jacobs. An infield of Jacobs/Uggla/Ramirez/Cantu would be the best power hitting infield in the NL, maybe the game.
Nolasco and Johnson are gonna have big years, I think. I'm not sure about the bullpen and the back end of the rotation, hope my man Miller from UNC steps up big.
BTW Miller looks funny in a Fred Flintstone costume.
With the season right around the corner, predictions anyone?
AL East
(Go ahead, call me a homer. Right now. I don't care.)
Let me start off by saying this could be the best division of all time. If anyone, I don't care who you are, tries to argue there is any other division in baseball that compares they are out of their mind. The Yankees have spent like crazy and look really strong, the Rays are coming off a WS appearance, and the Red Sox should be really good as well. Heck, the Blue Jays and Orioles are even competitive up and coming teams. I mean, you could make a case that the 3 best teams in MLB are all in the AL East. Regardless, there will be a very good team miss the playoffs this year. There will be some serious inter-division battles this season, that's for sure.
1. New York Yankees
2. Boston Red Sox (WC)
3. Tampa Bay Rays
4. Baltimore Orioles
5. Toronto Blue Jays
AL Central
I do like the Twins to finish 1st, but I think you could draw the 2-5 spots out of a hat and come up with a better solution as to where they will finish. As crazy as this sounds, I kind of like the Royals to make some noise this year. I don't expect them to make the playoffs, but they should be a pretty competitive team. The White Sox should be fairly good again, the Indians I'm a little up in the air on, same with the Tigers.
1. Minnesota Twins
2. Chicago White Sox
3. Kansas City Royals
4. Cleveland Indians
5. Detroit Tigers
AL West
This is an interesting division. It's definitely the weakest of the 3 AL ones, but there could be a team or two that surprise some people, those being the Rangers and A's. I figure Seattle will be pretty terrible again, and Ichiro going on the DL today doesn't help matters. They're a mess. The Rangers are going to have a killer offense again but probably another season of bad pitching. Oakland could make some noise, but they have the youngest rotation in baseball and some of those guys are going to have to grow up real quick. The offense should be a lot better though.
1. LA Angels
2. Texas Rangers
3. Oakland A's
4. Seattle Mariners
NL East
The NL East clearly looks like the best division in the NL, although that's not saying much given that the West is iffy and the Central isn't good. The Phillies and Mets should be the class of the division, but the Braves and Marlins are talented enough they can compete with them. I just doubt they will in the long run. The Braves whiffed on Peavy and Burnett and had to settle for Lowe, but he's a consistent pitcher. I'm not sold on the Braves lineup being that great, but we'll see. The Marlins are going to be an exciting team to watch, and as expected, the Nationals will be bringing up the rear.
1. Philadelphia Phillies
2. New York Mets (WC)
3. Atlanta Braves
4. Florida Marlins
5. Washington Nationals
NL Central
And now we come to the part of my predictions where I bash the NL Central. It sucks, ok. IMO it's the worst division in all of baseball, moreso than the NL West. Can we say the Cubs are going to piss on the rest of the division and just leave it at that? I think the Cardinals will probably have a respectable team, but most likely miss the playoffs for a 3rd straight year. Milwaukee might be decent, who knows. Cincinnati could be a sleeper. Houston should suck and Pittsburg always is awful. So there you go. The worst division in MLB.
1. Chicago Cubs
2. St. Louis Cardinals
3. Cincinnati Reds
4. Milwaukee Brewers
5. Houston Astros
6. Pittsburg Pirates
NL West
Top to bottom probably the toughest division to predict, I think. The Dodgers will definitely be in the hunt to win the West since they've got Manny back. 1-5 the Giants have the best rotation in the division, but they're so, so inexperienced on offense and will struggle to put runs on the board. The D-backs have a great 1-2 with Webb/Haren, but don't exactly have the most desirable offense either. Every year it seems each player in their lineup hits no better than about .230. They also strike out way too much. The Rockies could be scrappy but don't have a real good back end of the rotation. The Padres are probably going to be abysmal once again with arguably the worst lineup in MLB.
1. Arizona D-backs
2. LA Dodgers
3. San Francisco Giants
4. Colorado Rockies
5. San Diego Padres
Is anyone else getting tired of this AL East is the best division crap? ;D
I don't see anyway the Dodgers don't win the West if they get some decent pitching. I know their pitching is a little suspect after losing Lowe and Penny, but the rest of that division has a ton of question marks, even the D-Backs. The addition of Haren is huge for them, but I just don't know about their bats.
Look at the Dodgers lineup...
Furcal
Hudson
Manny
Loney
Kemp
Martin
Ethier
Ethier hit close to 25 homers last year in the 8 hole. I don't know who is going to play 3rd for them, DeWitt? But the Dodgers lineup 1-8 has the potential to be as good as any in the NL and one of the better ones in all of baseball. Of course all of that is because they have Manny in the middle of it.
AL East
1. Boston - best team all around even with the Yankees spending, solid professional hitters across the lineup - Pedroia, Youkilis, Lowrie, Ellsbury, Bay, Drew. Good staff and pen.
2. NY Yankees - some aging parts, ARod not fully healthy, new pitchers breaking in (and I think Burnett is overrated). I expect Damon, Jeter and Matsui to tail off a little.
3. Tampa Bay - I think their pitching staff went a little over their heads last year. They have good arms but they aren't world beaters. Their lineup is really good but NY and Boston have a lot better pitching IMO.
4. Baltimore - Markakis is going to have a huge year. I like Luke Scott to break out too. Wigginton is a good pickup who always hits. Brian Roberts is a top leadoff man. If they get any pitching they will be around .500
5. Toronto - They've got Halladay but I don't care much for their lineup. Wells is losing power, Rolen is getting old, I just don't see difference makers.
AL Central
1. Cleveland - I know Josh doesn't rate them high but I do. V Mart can't be as bad as last year. Grady will always rake. Carmona will rebound from his injury year. DeRosa was a huge pickup who is versatile. Choo is coming into his own. This is a good team.
2. Minnesota - Always do more with less. Automatic closer, good hitters (Mauer, Morneau), speed (Span and Gomez).
3. Detroit - Granderson, Ordonez, Cabrera, Guillen, Laird. They have a lot of guys that hit. Their starting staff is suspect and I even thought overrated when they made the WS. But if they get decent starting and someone steps up at closer, they can get 3rd.
4. Chicago WS - Just don't see it with them. I don't see Ramirez doing as well as last year. Konerko and Thome are ancient and Dye is getting there. No dominant SP.
5. Kansas City - May be a year or two away. I like some of their young hitters, but still not nearly enough pitching or overall hitting.
AL West
1. LA Angels - Should walk the division again. By far the best combination of hitting and pitching. Seattle has some pitching, Texas and Oakland have good bats, but none of them have a full package even close to the Angels. Even without K Rod and Tex they will cruise.
2. Oakland - I think they're the sleeper here. Giambi is back and I think he will produce. Holliday is a massive addition. They have decent starters and a couple good closer options.
3. Texas - One of the best lineups in the game. Kinsler, Young, Cruz, Hamilton, Davis, Blalock. But just zero pitching. When your best known SP is Kevin Millwood, you are not going to do any better than .500 ball.
4. Seattle - Probably the worst team in the AL, again.
NL East
1. Philadelphia - Have to love a lineup with Howard, Utley, Rollins, Ibanez, Werth, and Victorino. A perfect closer, a good frontline starter if healthy in Hamels. They're the team to beat.
2. NY Mets - Great talent but haven't shown the ability to close the deal and make the playoffs. When will Delgado start to really decline? Can Beltran stay healthy and productive? Wright and Reyes are the only constants.
3. Florida - Love their young pitching staff. Maybe the best in the NL. Nolasco and Johnson will be horses. Some real mashers in the lineup too with Ramirez, Uggla and Cantu. Maybin could be ROY.
4. Atlanta - They got Lowe but not sold on the other starters (not a Vazquez fan). Can Chipper match last year? What will Francoeur do? Is there enough power in the lineup to produce a lot of runs? I have some questions about them.
5. Washington - they suck
NL Central
1. Chicago Cubs - If we don't walk this division again something is wrong. Good SP and 2 closer options that are both good. A lineup of one insanely talented free swinger and 7 professional hitters. Great OBP. Great slugging. This is a team built to score a bunch of runs and win over the course of a 162 game schedule. The only question is what happens in a best of 5 in October.
2. Cincinnati - This is my big sleeper pick. If Dusty doesn't have Volquez and Cueto's arms falling off by July, they have a good staff. They have a small park and some guys who can knock it out of there. Dusty's added some versatility and speed in the lineup too. Solid club I think.
3. St Louis - Not sold on the overall offense although Pujols is unquestioned the best in the game and I think Ludwick was no fluke. Not sure what they will get from Ankiel. Glaus is hurt, how will he come back? Not sure how Schumaker will work at 2B. Greene at SS. Will Carpenter stay healthy? Who will close?
4. Milwaukee - A lot of power but not much else. Their power numbers are right with the Cubs but the Brewers have such garbage OBP cause they don't draw walks or otherwise get on base, the Cubs scored about 100 runs more than them with similar HRs. They have a terrible SP staff, their ace has not pitched a full big league season. Their closer is over 40.
5. Houston - Some good hitters, but not a well built team. Berkman might have 1 or 2 great years left. Not impressed with their SP.
6. Pittsburgh - awful
NL West
1. LA Dodgers - Like the Angels, best combo in the division of hitting and pitching. I love Ethier and he will break out this year. Kemp, Ethier and Man Ram is a sick OF. O-Dog is a big addition at 2B. Broxton will be a lights out closer.
2. Arizona - Don't think they can match the Dodgers position for position but they do have 2 great starters which makes them to me a favorite if they get into the playoffs in a short series. Would not want to face Webb and Haren in a best of 5. Upton might break out this year in the OF. Their offense isn't that great though.
3. Colorado - They say Helton is crushing this spring and I like their lineup if they have him, Stewart, Tulo and Atkins in the infield. Hawpe if healthy all year will produce also. Not sure who won the closer battle between Corpas and Street but that's the makings of a good pen. SP questionable.
4. San Francisco - Real good starting staff (can you tell when teams are even I go with hitting?) I just don't like the lineup. I don't like Molina at all, Winn is getting up there in age, Renteria is past it, Rowand a bust last year. Sandoval is supposed to be a diamond in the rough but that's all I see that I really like. Wilson is what I call a "drama queen" closer (walks and allows too many hits). I had him in fantasy last year and he scared me so bad by letting 2 or 3 guys on all the time, or coming in with a 3 run lead and saving it by 1.
5. San Diego - Outside of Peavy, worst team in the majors.
Poor Jake Peavy.
I'd be surprised if anyone can name 5 position players for the Padres and a starter other than Peavy and Young.
Here's how unimpressive the Giants lineup is...last I heard Bengie Molina was going to hit cleanup. Bengie Molina and his 15 HRs and 70 RBI is going to hit cleanup for a major league baseball team. The Giants do have 3 Cy Young winners on their pitching staff unfortunately one of them came up roughly around the time when baseball games were still in black and white, and the other is another one is Barry Zito.
I hate the Braves, and don't care about the Phillies. But God I love Opening Day.
Basketball may be my favorite sport, and my true love, but baseball will always be my first love.
Let's get it started.
McCann getting the Braves off to a good start with a 2 run homer in the 1st.
Tobin your fantasy pitcher is getting torched.
There had been a lot of talk aboid Francouer having a great spring and changing his stance. Paid off dividens in hist first '09 at bat.
Some rookie takes Myers yard on his first MLB at bat. LOL
And Jordan Schaeffer goes yard in his first major league at bat. And to left center too, a power alley. Wow, three Atlanta homers in the first two innings, and I was afraid our bats were going to be the reason we didn't push for a wild card spot this year.
FML.
That might've been fan interference there. Escobar was very close to going yard.
D Lowe DEALING so far. On my way to a W.
Tobin, you should pray Myers goes deep into the game to negate a loss.
Lowe has thrown quite a few sliders thus far. I know the Phillies are a good low ball hitting team but it's like he's almost afraid to go with his sinker.
Everything in his first battle with Howard was barely at the knees. It was funny to watch them go over the pitches again.
D Lowe isn't going to get me any GIDP despite ground balling Philly to death, cause nobody is getting on base against him.
Lowe I fing dealin' so far.
AB, can you explain to me and Ryan why the jersies are so dark? Also, what's with the black batting helmet?
Lowe is getting me some points. Also Atlantas unis are awful.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on April 05, 2009, 08:18:28 pm
Lowe is getting me some points. Also Atlantas unis are awful.
AGree and agree,
Tobin, unless the Phils can get Myers off the hook, you start the year with negative points.
Myers' 6 K's are helping him out.
Looks like he'll break even. Just like Jerry!
Warning track power.
:)
Myers is actually +5 tonight :)
Well, you haven't factored in the -5 for a loss yet
LET D LOWE GET ME A COMPLETE GAME!
Don't pinch hit for him please. Pleeeeeeeeeeeease
Someone hide Bobby Cox.
Who is this fool from the bullpen? Dear Lord he is facing Utley and Howard now.
If you blow this win I will go mental.
Please Lord let the bases be loaded for Ibanez.
When will managers learn that closers SUCK when you bring them into non-save situations?
D Lowe stays in and this is over by now. I am out 15 points and potentially 10 more if this loser gives up a bomb.
I'm going to kill Mike Gonzalez.
HE'S GOT BALLS!
Ryan Howard, in pursuit of the magical 200 K plateau, Ks twice tonight in game 1 of 162.
Screw you Ibanez.
Lowe - 22 points. Heck yeah.
Quote from: SMC on April 05, 2009, 09:34:12 pm
Lowe - 22 points. Heck yeah.
He got me 14 in Josh's league.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on April 05, 2009, 11:09:36 pm
Quote from: SMC on April 05, 2009, 09:34:12 pm
Lowe - 22 points. Heck yeah.
He got me 14 in Josh's league.
I think the IP's is the difference from what I could gather without looking at scoring systems.
My dad, in another league, got 9 shutout innings tonight, only 2 hits given up, and 5 Ks, between Lowe and Lidge.
I can't sleep.
Fenway is going to be epic tomorrow. I wish I was there.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 06, 2009, 12:46:24 am
I can't sleep.
Fenway is going to be epic tomorrow. I wish I was there.
GO RAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 06, 2009, 12:46:24 am
I can't sleep.
Fenway is going to be epic tomorrow. I wish I was there.
Ditto. Fenway (Wrigley too) on opening day would be epic to be at.
Tampa Bay @ Boston: PPD
FML
Why do they postpone games because they EXPECT weather?
At least the Cubs are playing in Houston. Just wish we were playing earlier.
I don't know, but looking at a radar it is probably the right move.
Thanks for reminding me about that Boston postponement. Got Jed Lowrie out of the lineup. Maybe Adam LaRoche will go deep against STL for me in his place from the IF hole. Probably not though.
Would settle for some decent hitting starts, and hopefully Nolasco and Webb are strong.
Reyes doing work for me. Got a hit and a SB, I wish Wright could've knocked him in.
Harang screwed me over big time last year in fantasy. He was my second pitcher and then he went 6-17. I hope the Mets go off on him today.
I have Johan going in my public league. Hopefully he pitches a good game.
This is the first year in like 3 or 4 years I haven't had Beltran on one of my teams. Hopefully that doesn't mean he goes off this year.
Same here. I think I've had Beltran in my money league the last 4 years. Watch him regain his old form and flirt with a 40/40 season.
Santana punches out first 2 hitters.
Anyone else laugh when they scroll the probable starters across the bottom of the screen and show everyone as 0-0 with a 0.00 ERA? LOL
Kind of an anti-climactic opening day now that the Red Sox and Rays game has been rained out.
Right now we've got Mets @ Reds and Indians @ Rangers on.
You've gotta love it when Kevin Millwood is the ace. For any team. The Rangers red jerseys and hats look good.
I wanted to watch Indians and Rangers.
what in the world is SEC women's softball doing on FSN instead of the Rangers opener? I don't even think this softball game is live, it's a replay from the weekend.
Quote from: SMC on April 06, 2009, 01:18:21 pm
I wanted to watch Indians and Rangers.
what in the world is SEC women's softball doing on FSN instead of the Rangers opener? I don't even think this softball game is live, it's a replay from the weekend.
I'm getting it but it's on an FSN alternate channel, probably because I have MLB Extra Innings.
Milwood used to be pretty salty when he was with the Braves.
Cliff Lee getting knocked around early. 4-0 Rangers in the 3rd. Game is on ESPN2.
I'm glad I didn't decide to draft Lee in any of my leagues. I was afraid last year was just a flash in the pan one year thing. And after seeing him get knocked around today I feel quite a bit better about that decision. Granted it is only his first start and he may still have a great season.
I am about to freaking break something, PUT THE FREAKING CARDINALS GAME ON.
I have to go to work now. FML
Go O's and Pirates.
Hey, the magical channel 96 in Russellville that only comes on during Cardinals games returns!
Why in the heck is ESPN2 showing the ESPNEWS feed?!?!?!?!?? THIS IS OPENING DAY!!!!!!!! SHOW BASEBALLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cox Cable how fucl<ing stupid are you to not have your MLB contracts for this season yet? OPENING DAY IS A WEEK LATER THAN NORMAL YOU RETARDS HOW DO YOU NOT HAVE THIS DONE?!?! I swear to god you are about to lose a customer. Jesus H. Christ Allmighty.
I just wanted to get in an FML post.
Brad Hawpe (on my fantasy bench) hits a 3 run double off Brandon Webb (fantasy starter). FML
Quote from: SMC on April 06, 2009, 03:34:03 pm
Hey, the magical channel 96 in Russellville that only comes on during Cardinals games returns!
Huh. I tried that channel out just for the heck of it even though I didn't expect anything. And I know this is al little lame, but I have been looking for the TV Guide channel for like 4 or 5 months now since they switched the old TV Guide Channel(CH 10)to the HSN. I don't have a cable box to look at the guide in my room(where I watch 95% of my television)so I used to heavily rely on the TV Guide channel to see what was coming on certain channels. I just have the basic cable package so I get channels 2-74. I flip over to 96 and then just push the up button for the heck of it and the TV Guide channel is sitting there on 97. Which makes perfect sense since the last channel on the cable lineup is 74.
I am about to murder someone at cox.
In Russellville we have channels 2-71 and channel 96 is just a black screen, except when the Cardinals are playing, we get Fox Sports Midwest coming in on 96 then. It's weird.
J-Lo, I figured that gay GoScoutHomes.tv channel would be where the Cards game is on like usual. But of course it isn't. Great job Cox. You may lose some customers today.
I'm getting a ton of free baseball channels on Cox right now. Up in the 680's on the Extra Innings channels for a free preview. Though yet to see a Cards game.
MLB channel has stuff as well. I'm sure you all know that though.
Saw GWB-Sr threw out the first pitch in Texas today. I think he speaks at the UA tonight.
I'm so conflicted with this fantasy league. I hate the Mets and I have Santana getting the win and F-Rod grabbing the save. 28 points right there though. I guess it's a way to get something out of a Mets win.
The motherless ones.
Quote from: SMC on April 06, 2009, 03:42:57 pm
In Russellville we have channels 2-71 and channel 96 is just a black screen, except when the Cardinals are playing, we get Fox Sports Midwest coming in on 96 then. It's weird.
Because for a decade Cox has had a deal with FSN to show Cardinal games in Arkansas becasue of the high demand. The deal was they can only show the games on the Midwest channel and nothing else due to Southwest being our regional network. But for some reason this year the mouthbreathers at Cox either don't have the contract or haven't got it finished in time. So I have been told there is no chance the game will come on today and they don't know if/when they are going to come on even tho they
ADVERTISE the fact that they are going to have 150 Cardinal games. We have already told them they better get the games or we are switching to dish or whatever so we can get the games.
Quote from: SMC on April 06, 2009, 03:37:39 pm
I just wanted to get in an FML post.
Brad Hawpe (on my fantasy bench) hits a 3 run double off Brandon Webb (fantasy starter). FML
I take back the FML.
Tony Clark (yes, TONY CLARK) blasts a 2 run homer to give Arizona the lead back. B Webb back in line for a W.
FYI, I also saw they are going to show Royals games in NWA on Cox and it would not alter the number of Card games shown.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on April 06, 2009, 03:49:34 pm
Quote from: SMC on April 06, 2009, 03:42:57 pm
In Russellville we have channels 2-71 and channel 96 is just a black screen, except when the Cardinals are playing, we get Fox Sports Midwest coming in on 96 then. It's weird.
Because for a decade Cox has had a deal with FSN to show Cardinal games in Arkansas becasue of the high demand. The deal was they can only show the games on the Midwest channel and nothing else due to Southwest being our regional network. But for some reason this year the mouthbreathers at Cox either don't have the contract or haven't got it finished in time. So I have been told there is no chance the game will come on today and they don't know if/when they are going to come on even tho they ADVERTISE the fact that they are going to have 150 Cardinal games. We have already told them they better get the games or we are switching to dish or whatever so we can get the games.
So the Cardinal games up there have pre-empted the regular FSN programming? Down here we still get SW (Rangers and Astros) but get the Midwest feed coming in on an alternate channel.
The Cards game is on in Russellville. Although the feed is somewhat spotty.
What's the alternate channel you get Midwest on?
I think my channels are the same as they are in Russellville.
I can't believe FSN SW didn't have the Rangers game on.
Quote from: AB™ on April 06, 2009, 03:54:34 pm
What's the alternate channel you get Midwest on?
I think my channels are the same as they are in Russellville.
I can't believe FSN SW didn't have the Rangers game on.
The alternate channel is that channel 96 I was talking about. It's not even a channel, really. Besides Cardinals games, nothing comes in on that channel, just a black screen. I don't even remember how I discovered that channel, actually.
Just start putting in random channels that aren't real channels and see if you hit a jackpot. lol
Quote from: QF© on April 06, 2009, 03:51:13 pm
FYI, I also saw they are going to show Royals games in NWA on Cox and it would not alter the number of Card games shown.
That same article said they were close to getting the Royals and hoped to get the deal done by the tenth, so I am just assuming that they are doing it all on one contract and that its keeping me from seeing Opening freaking Day. So it has already altered the number of games I get to see.
And Ryan they never changed anything on FSNSW, like you guys we have our own blank channel they put the games on. Also its so freaking outdated that we have FSN SW, becasue the reason we have it is beacause we were in the Southwest Coneference. Its not 1989 anymore fox!
Jorge Cantu with a 2 run bomb for the Fish, 5-0 Marlins!
Hermida goes back to back! 6-0!
Webb you sir. Gives up 2 bombs to the Rockies.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on April 06, 2009, 04:05:10 pm
Quote from: QF© on April 06, 2009, 03:51:13 pm
FYI, I also saw they are going to show Royals games in NWA on Cox and it would not alter the number of Card games shown.
That same article said they were close to getting the Royals and hoped to get the deal done by the tenth, so I am just assuming that they are doing it all on one contract and that its keeping me from seeing Opening freaking Day. So it has already altered the number of games I get to see.
And Ryan they never changed anything on FSNSW, like you guys we have our own blank channel they put the games on. Also its so freaking outdated that we have FSN SW, becasue the reason we have it is beacause we were in the Southwest Coneference. Its not 1989 anymore fox!
If anything NWA should get FSN Midwest and the rest of Arkansas should get FSN South. I don't get why we are subjected to Dallas and Houston stuff.
Quote from: SMC on April 06, 2009, 04:10:46 pm
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on April 06, 2009, 04:05:10 pm
Quote from: QF© on April 06, 2009, 03:51:13 pm
FYI, I also saw they are going to show Royals games in NWA on Cox and it would not alter the number of Card games shown.
That same article said they were close to getting the Royals and hoped to get the deal done by the tenth, so I am just assuming that they are doing it all on one contract and that its keeping me from seeing Opening freaking Day. So it has already altered the number of games I get to see.
And Ryan they never changed anything on FSNSW, like you guys we have our own blank channel they put the games on. Also its so freaking outdated that we have FSN SW, becasue the reason we have it is beacause we were in the Southwest Coneference. Its not 1989 anymore fox!
If anything NWA should get FSN Midwest and the rest of Arkansas should get FSN South. I don't get why we are subjected to Dallas and Houston stuff.
It would be so awesome to get FSN Midwest, not just for the Cardinal stuff but they cover a ton of Missouri Valley events as well. That and I would much rather get Blues games over Stars. And I wont have good college basketball games preempted for the freakn Mavs.
Managers already starting to make me angry in fantasy.
First Bobby Cox screws me out of 15 complete game points by yanking D Lowe after 8.
Now Arizona takes Webb out after 4, if he had had one more inning he could have been eligible for a win. UGH
Kinsler got me a solid 11 points today going 3-5 with 2 double ,2 RBI's, and a run scored.
J-Lo how's Nolasco doing? I've got him in my money league.
Quote from: SMC on April 06, 2009, 03:52:48 pm=The Cards game is on in Russellville. Although the feed is somewhat spotty.
That's generous. It's grainy as hel
l.
Felipe Lopez you beautiful man. Wasn't going to start you until a rain out and you hit 2 bombs and get me 12 points.
Quote from: AB™ on April 06, 2009, 04:29:12 pm
J-Lo how's Nolasco doing? I've got him in my money league.
Given up 2 through 4.
HOLY CRAP! Emilo Bonifacino just hit an inside the park home run for the Marlins! That man can freakn fly. that was awesome.
QF, you can tell your guys to quit hitting bombs at any moment.
IP is going to be a huge stat this year, though you can only max out at 1250.
CC hasn't looked that great. Down 3-1 and he's had multiple runners in several innings.
The Orioles are actually hitting CC pretty well. Hopefully the O's can hold down the NYY lineup.
That dang Colorado/Arizona game is a shootout. Thanks a lot Brad Hawpe, for going 3 for 3 with 2 doubles and 3 RBI when I bench you.
Those stats for Felipe Lopez are hilarious. Who would ever guess he would be the first guy of the year with a 2 HR game.
Yankees defense booting it around the infield now. Haha.
Hanley hits a grand slam! Marlins are up 12-5 in the 6th!
Khalil Greene is protecting Pujols? LOL really?
I would walk Albert EVERY TIME.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on April 06, 2009, 05:18:57 pm
Hanley hits a grand slam! Marlins are up 12-5 in the 6th!
And of course in my money league I pick Pujols with the #1 pick and not Hanley. Oh well, over the course of the season I doubt I'll be too uspet about that at the end of the season, especially since I was able to get Rollins with the 17th overall pick.
Matsui goes deep, Baltimore is going to blow it.
I HEART JASON MOTTE!!!!!
Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
(http://www.knozone.com/SiteCollectionDocuments/www.knozone.com/KNO_GasCanExch%20Final.JPG)
All you guys did was trade one Jason for another.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on April 06, 2009, 05:18:57 pm
Hanley hits a grand slam! Marlins are up 12-5 in the 6th!
He's been my entire offense today.
And the Pirates take their place at the top of the Central while the Cardinals are in the cellar.
Soriano went yard in the first for the Cubbies.
Dear ESPN,
You've had ESPNEWS all day on what is supposed to be my ESPN2. As a result I am now missing the Blue Jays/Tigers game.
I've seen eleventy billion hours of breakdown of the UNC/Michigan St. game. Opening day comes once a year. I want to watch baseball.
Go to hel!
That is all.
Quote from: AB™ on April 06, 2009, 06:36:48 pm
Dear ESPN,
You've had ESPNEWS all day on what is supposed to be my ESPN2. As a result I am now missing the Blue Jays/Tigers game.
Go to he[b/]ll.
You were slated to get Jays/Tigers?
We were supposed to get Cubs/Astros but it's blacked out and on FSN down here.
We were supposed to get one on ESPN(I thought)and the other on ESPN2.
I love you Cesar Izturis and whatever fan reached over and made contact with Damon's glove.
NVM, mine is the same as yours Kirk.
Still, it's opening day. Show games on both channels. I've had ESPNEWS all day long.
Cubs and Houston is the game ESPN2 had been advertising, but it's blacked out cause the game is on regionally with FSN. I hate the Astros homer announcers, but better than nothing.
Nice to see some things never change.
The 1930s saw us have the Gashouse Gang;
The 2000s have welcomed the Gas Can Gang.
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on April 06, 2009, 06:52:07 pm
Nice to see some things never change.
The 1930s saw us have the Gashouse Gang;
The 2000s have welcomed the Gas Can Gang.
Wonder if it won't be long until your boy Perez is back up in the show. Motte was just dreadful today.
I wonder who these FSN guys are rooting for in the Cubs/Astros game...
Worst opening day ever. Not only can I NOT GET THE FREAKING CARDINALS here now they blow a game in the 9th AGAIN. This after the worst NCAA Tournament first week in memory. Knowing my sports luck the Masters is going to be rained out/shortened. Thank god the Marlins gave me something to cling to.
Griffey goes yard in his 2nd AB. Mariners up 2-1 on the Twins, going into the 6th in Minnesota.
Quote from: dc24 on April 06, 2009, 08:41:29 pm
Griffey goes yard in his 2nd AB. Mariners up 2-1 on the Twins, going into the 6th in Minnesota.
I am pretty mad about this game. The Twins have stranded two runners in an inning twice. Then, last inning we hit into a double play with the bases loaded. We need to push some of these base runners across the plate.
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Other than a Red Sox win (which obviously wasn't possible), I don't think I could've had a more enjoyable Opening Day. Fatass got shelled for the Yankees, Teixeira went 0-4, and the Cardinals did their standard meltdown in the 9th inning and lost to the freaking PIRATES. I love it. Good times!
I think this is the Pirates year.
Twins lose 6-1 to the Mariners. Horrible way to start the season. We need Mauer to get healthy to give us an extra bat in the middle of that lineup.
So I just saw the Cardinals 9th inning highlights. Wow! That was an impressive meltdown. 4-2 lead with 2 outs and they still found a way to lose? What a way to bring in the new season, at home no less.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 06, 2009, 11:10:07 pm
So I just saw the Cardinals 9th inning highlights. Wow! That was an impressive meltdown. 4-2 lead with 2 outs and they still found a way to lose? What a way to bring in the new season, at home no less.
Told you it was a good one, lol.
May God curse the Boston Red Sox.
That is all.
Quote from: jbell96 on April 07, 2009, 12:25:52 am
May God curse the Boston Red Sox.
That is all.
Has nothing to do with your post, but do you follow the Mariners?
Hopefully today we saw a new Carlos Zambrano, but I doubt it. He just scares me (in a bad way). As good as he can be, you just never know if he's going to show up or not.
Good start for the Cubbies though. I love beating the Asstros.
CC Sabathia, 7 years .......... $161M
Mark Teixeira, 8 years ........ $180M
4.1, 6 ER, 5 BB, 0 K and 0-4, 5 LOB ..... priceless
Quote from: rsvl_hogfan4 on April 07, 2009, 12:27:03 am
Quote from: jbell96 on April 07, 2009, 12:25:52 am
May God curse the Boston Red Sox.
That is all.
Has nothing to do with your post, but do you follow the Mariners?
I've been to a few games since I've lived here, but I've been a Cardinals fan since I was 5.
You guys are really going to have to make me root hardcore against the Sox arent ya?
Quote from: Chris Murphy on April 07, 2009, 12:39:50 am
Hopefully today we saw a new Carlos Zambrano, but I doubt it. He just scares me (in a bad way). As good as he can be, you just never know if he's going to show up or not.
Good start for the Cubbies though. I love beating the Asstros.
Heck yeah. I hate Houston with a passion too.
Good W to start the season.
Best opening day for the yankees i have ever seen
T-minus 30 minutes until the Red Sox and Rays get underway.
Sadly, I have to go to work at 3:30 and as a result have to Tivo the game and watch later tonight. I will not read any texts until after the game is over so any of your attempts to spoil it for me will be 100% FAIL. :)
What's your work number? ;D
DUSTIN PEDROIA!!!! HOMER OVER THE MONSTAH!!!!
1-0 Sox
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 07, 2009, 03:16:41 pm
DUSTIN PEDROIA!!!! HOMER OVER THE MONSTAH!!!!
1-0 Sox
I wonder what he said to Shields as he rounded the bases.
1-0 Sox after 1. With that, I'm out.
I know the number to Lowe's in Blytheville so I'll be sure to call when I get home.
Sox won, 5-3. Beckett was masterful, going 7 innings and striking out 10.
Braves doin work on the defending champs. They beat the Phillies 4-0 tonight. Our pitching has been pretty nasty so far and we're getting enough runs as well.
Houston and the Cubs playing a good one. 1-1 in the bottom of the 6th.
Detroit scored 1 run in the top of the 9th to tie the game against Toronto. Toronto scored in the bottom of the 9th to win.
Twins were down 4-0 to Seattle. They just scored 3 runs in the bottom of the 5th. It is 4-3 Seattle in the top of the 6th.
Twins drop another to the Mariners. 5-3.
Jorge Cantu is in beast mode.
Quote from: rsvl_hogfan4 on April 07, 2009, 09:45:24 pm
Twins drop another to the Mariners. 5-3.
Just kidding!!!
Twins were down 5-3 with 2 outs and Carlos Gomez was in the hole 1-2 when I posted this. Gomez walked, Kubel got a hit, Buscher walked, Span got a single to score one, and Alexi Casilla got a 2 RBI base hit to win the game 6-5 for the Twins all with 2 outs!
Crap...I don't know what the heck happened to Morrow. He just got insanely wild. We can't afford to give away games like this.
Quote from: dc24 on April 07, 2009, 10:06:27 pm
Crap...I don't know what the heck happened to Morrow. He just got insanely wild. We can't afford to give away games like this.
I sure am glad he did, though. Mariners dominated us that game. There is no reason for us to win that one. Going into that inning, aside from the score, the Mariners had 11 hits to our 5.
Quote from: rsvl_hogfan4 on April 07, 2009, 10:08:53 pm
Quote from: dc24 on April 07, 2009, 10:06:27 pm
Crap...I don't know what the heck happened to Morrow. He just got insanely wild. We can't afford to give away games like this.
I sure am glad he did, though. Mariners dominated us that game. There is no reason for us to win that one. Going into that inning, aside from the score, the Mariners had 11 hits to our 5.
Yeah. I really wanted this game just because it would assure us of a split because I'm not too sure we can win the next two games with our pitching. If they're on, then we can win, but if not, we'll lose this series 3-1. Oh well, there's always tomorrow.
Quote from: RHS on April 07, 2009, 07:40:04 pm
Sox won, 5-3. Beckett was masterful, going 7 innings and striking out 10.
10 K's and only 2 hits. He hasn't looked that good since the '07 playoffs, IMO. That was a masterpiece today. Love getting off to a good start against a division rival.
Lester on the bump tomorrow vs Kazmir. Kirk, it's on ESPN so you can catch it.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 07, 2009, 10:44:02 pm
Quote from: RHS on April 07, 2009, 07:40:04 pm
Sox won, 5-3. Beckett was masterful, going 7 innings and striking out 10.
10 K's and only 2 hits. He hasn't looked that good since the '07 playoffs, IMO. That was a masterpiece today. Love getting off to a good start against a division rival.
Lester on the bump tomorrow vs Kazmir. Kirk, it's on ESPN so you can catch it.
That was the overall sentiment on Talk Sox, that today was the Beckett of 02, not 08. Just wish I could have seen him opertate.
Ironically, tomorrow I will be at Baum Stadium, but I will DVR the game so I can actually watch the Sox.
Quote from: RHS on April 07, 2009, 10:49:41 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 07, 2009, 10:44:02 pm
Quote from: RHS on April 07, 2009, 07:40:04 pm
Sox won, 5-3. Beckett was masterful, going 7 innings and striking out 10.
10 K's and only 2 hits. He hasn't looked that good since the '07 playoffs, IMO. That was a masterpiece today. Love getting off to a good start against a division rival.
Lester on the bump tomorrow vs Kazmir. Kirk, it's on ESPN so you can catch it.
That was the overall sentiment on Talk Sox, that today was the Beckett of 02, not 08. Just wish I could have seen him opertate.
Ironically, tomorrow I will be at Baum Stadium, but I will DVR the game so I can actually watch the Sox.
Beckett of '07, you mean. Watching him pitch was freaking awesome. He was nailing his spots and the velocity was 95-96 pretty much the whole game. No updates tomorrow like I did tonight?
I'm really hoping we can go into Philly tomorrow and somehow complete the series sweep. After watching the Nationals against the Marlins the last two days, it is very possible we win at least 2 of 3 against them in our home series opener this weekend. If the Braves beat the Phillies tomorrow, A 5-1 start is quite possible.
i got Kazmir pitching tomorrow on my fantasy league....and i got DP and Youk....gahh..i need the points but i dont want Kazmir to pull a Beckett and have the Sox lose...
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 07, 2009, 11:50:10 pm
Quote from: RHS on April 07, 2009, 10:49:41 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 07, 2009, 10:44:02 pm
Quote from: RHS on April 07, 2009, 07:40:04 pm
Sox won, 5-3. Beckett was masterful, going 7 innings and striking out 10.
10 K's and only 2 hits. He hasn't looked that good since the '07 playoffs, IMO. That was a masterpiece today. Love getting off to a good start against a division rival.
Lester on the bump tomorrow vs Kazmir. Kirk, it's on ESPN so you can catch it.
That was the overall sentiment on Talk Sox, that today was the Beckett of 02, not 08. Just wish I could have seen him opertate.
Ironically, tomorrow I will be at Baum Stadium, but I will DVR the game so I can actually watch the Sox.
Beckett of '07, you mean. Watching him pitch was freaking awesome. He was nailing his spots and the velocity was 95-96 pretty much the whole game. No updates tomorrow like I did tonight?
Yeah, '07. You can update if you want, unless it's bad. lol
So uh.... Cardinals smashed the Pirates today, like we should have done yesterday.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on April 08, 2009, 02:53:56 am
So uh.... Cardinals smashed the Pirates today, like we should have done yesterday.
Yeah, I don't know. I really think this is the Pirates year. Not having Jason Bay and Xavier Nady in the lineup this year should do wonders for their offensive production.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on April 08, 2009, 02:53:56 am
So uh.... Cardinals smashed the Pirates today, like we should have done yesterday.
Not taking at least 3 of 4 from the Pirates to start the season would be bad. And they already lost once, so they need to grab these next two.
3 afternoon games today, all in the NL. The Nats are leading the Marlins 2-0 in the 1st right now. (I love MLB Extra Innings) The Braves/Phillies and Rockies/D-backs come on later. I'm off until Saturday so I plan on watching a lot of baseball these next 3 days.
Watch out for the Yankees... I don't even like them, but watch out...
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 08, 2009, 11:40:54 am
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on April 08, 2009, 02:53:56 am
So uh.... Cardinals smashed the Pirates today, like we should have done yesterday.
Not taking at least 3 of 4 from the Pirates to start the season would be bad. And they already lost once, so they need to grab these next two.
3 afternoon games today, all in the NL. The Nats are leading the Marlins 2-0 in the 1st right now. (I love MLB Extra Innings) The Braves/Phillies and Rockies/D-backs come on later. I'm off until Saturday so I plan on watching a lot of baseball these next 3 days.
I'm loving the free preview for this week. My wife, however, not so much. ;D
My boy Volstad with 7 K's so far and is line for the W.
Quote from: jbell96 on April 08, 2009, 12:59:26 pmI'm loving the free preview for this week. My wife, however, not so much. ;D
I bet. I didn't even know it was the free preview week for the people who don't have it. If I was you I probably wouldn't buy it though being a Cardinals fan. I doubt you'd get your money's worth.
Braves @ Phillies about to start now. I love afternoon games.
At a boy Chris! 7 K's and a win! My guys are 2-0 so far this season and the Marlins are off to a good start. ( I know its the Nats, but its still nice)
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 08, 2009, 02:19:44 pm
Braves @ Phillies about to start now. I love afternoon games.
Manged to get off work early. This game is a bonus for me to see.
Now if Larry would hit one out........
Quote from: QF© on April 08, 2009, 02:22:41 pmNow if Larry would hit one out........
Chipper's not even playing today.
YES! McCann helping all 3 of my fantasy teams with that 2 run shot!
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 08, 2009, 02:27:25 pm
Quote from: QF© on April 08, 2009, 02:22:41 pmNow if Larry would hit one out........
Chipper's not even playing today.
YES! McCann helping all 3 of my fantasy teams with that 2 run shot!
Dang it and
YIPPEEEEEEEEE
Are you not in our league? I have McCann myself in the FF points league.
No. I was already in 3 leagues and didn't want to do any more than that. I didn't go out of my way to get McCann, but I usually try to get an elite catcher with the position being so scarce and he fell to me in all 3 drafts.
I also have Vazquez starting today so I wouldn't mind a Braves win. Hopefully he will get me some K's.
I got 24 points today from just Marlins pitching :)
I need Wang to do well today. Have him in both leagues.
Quote from: RHS on April 08, 2009, 02:39:13 pm
I need Wang to do well today.
Thats what she said.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on April 08, 2009, 02:34:36 pm
I got 24 points today from just Marlins pitching :)
Volstad gave you 17 but that was it for our league.
I'm a little disappointed in you though. I was able to pick up Emilio Bonafacio today when I saw that he was still available. He has been ridiculous so far.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on April 08, 2009, 02:39:57 pm
Quote from: RHS on April 08, 2009, 02:39:13 pm
I need Wang to do well today.
Thats what she said.
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I thought about picking up Bonafacio after the Marlins first game, then I remembered who they were playing and thought I'd hold off until I see him play against the Mets this weekend. He's probably already gone in the Fearless league, but is still out there in my money league. If anything(because I expect his bat to cool off)he will be good for some stolen bases.
The Braves bats are still hot, McCann hit a 2 run homer in the first and Atlanta has a 2-0 lead in the second.
Yikes. That got out in a hurry for Ibanez. That's the drawback about Vazquez - he gives up a bunch of HR's.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 08, 2009, 02:41:00 pm
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on April 08, 2009, 02:34:36 pm
I got 24 points today from just Marlins pitching :)
Volstad gave you 17 but that was it for our league.
I'm a little disappointed in you though. I was able to pick up Emilio Bonafacio today when I saw that he was still available. He has been ridiculous so far.
Ya in the FF league I had Lindstrom as well.
Frickin' Ibanez.
Good job Vasquez. Go back to Chicago. You're trash.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 08, 2009, 02:48:52 pm
That got out in a hurry for Ibanez.
Bangs head against wall for sitting him on the bench.
This is the first time I've checked the Fearless league. I'm in dead last by a lot. I'm never going to remember to check this and set my lineups everyday. I've never had to do that in a fantasy league. I'm donezo.
Quote from: AB™ on April 08, 2009, 02:52:40 pm
This is the first time I've checked the Fearless league. I'm in dead last by a lot. I'm never going to remember to check this and set my lineups everyday. I've never had to do that in a fantasy league. I'm donezo.
I'm sure you know you can set your lineup for each future day. Besides, you can't start someone at each position every day or you'll run out of games at the position(162) or Innings pitched.
It's hard to get used too. I keep wanting to fill out a full line-up every day and have left people sitting on purpose due to the Max rules.
There you go Jeffrey*, 2-run single.
(I'm going to use asteriks to denote my FF fantasy players w/o having to mention it every time)
And then Diaz......... 7-2.
Phillies suck.
I would start everyone I could now and worry about max outs later.
If the Braves bats are this consitently hot all year long then we'll be a playoff team. The pitching will be there most days.
The Phillies are getting their bats going though this game as well. I expected them to put some runs up today since they didn't do jack in the first two games. I figured the Braves would need to score at least 6 runs if they wanted to win this one.
I have A-Rod on DL and won't just bat anyone in the extra IF slot in the mean time. I think you have to pace all positions. I'm not subbing for a top notch position player every day and taking a start away from him just cause I have a second-tier guy.
That's my strategy anyway.
Wow. What in the world is Manuel thinking? The Braves are still hitting Blanton hard and he's leaving him in the game. Hopefully we can get another run or two off of him before he's taken out.
Stephen Drew gets me a HR. My guys have hit 5 HR for me so far, all of them solo shots........
Shafer just got his second homer of the season. It was a two run shot to give the Braves a 9-3 lead. I'm loving it!!
lol wow Braves. Just wow. Blowing a 10-3 lead? Seriously?
I think someone slid in the STL bullpen when I wasn't looking.
8 runs on 3 hits.
Dear Atlanta bullpen,
Don't go to sleep tonight. I may kill you all.
Twins jumped on the Mariners 4-2. Mariners battled back last inning to take a 5-4 lead. Twins just got back to back doubles to take a 6-5 lead in the 5th inning.
Quote from: AB™ on April 08, 2009, 02:49:44 pm
Frickin' Ibanez.
Good job Vasquez. Go back to Chicago. You're trash.
I was sad to see him go. He blew so many leads for CWS.
Twins take game 3 from the Mariners, 6-5. Twins improve to 2-1.
Lots of afternoon games today, 9 to be exact.
I fully expect AJ Burnett to shut down the O's. Baltimore is throwing some guy I've never heard of. Alfredo Simon? Who? That NYY lineup should hammer him. Yikes.
Rubber game between the Sox and Rays at 12:30. Good pitching matchup between Dice and Garza.
And we'll also see if the Cardinals can manage a split with the Pirates, lolz.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 09, 2009, 11:40:10 am
Lots of afternoon games today, 9 to be exact.
I fully expect AJ Burnett to shut down the O's. Baltimore is throwing some guy I've never heard of. Alfredo Simon? Who? That NYY lineup should hammer him. Yikes.
Rubber game between the Sox and Rays at 12:30. Good pitching matchup between Dice and Garza.
And we'll also see if the Cardinals can manage a split with the Pirates, lolz.
The Yankees two best pitchers couldn't shut down the O's lineup so I doubt Carl Pavano 2.0 will do the trick.
Go Rays
Go Cards
That is all. ;D
Some rookie pitched for the Angels last night and died in a car wreck after the game
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4055343
Edit: Didn't notice MSU's thread about it on it's on.
Twins will need another comeback if they want to win. They are down 1-0 to the Mariners. The Twins have allowed the Mariners to score in the first inning every game so far.
Carl Pavano goes 1+ IP in his Indians debut, allowing 7 runs (2 more runners on base as he leaves). Nice job, Carl.
Dice getting worked over by the Rays so far. 4-0 Rays.
Yankees lead the O's 3-2 in the 4th.
For having "THE BEST FANS IN BASEBALL", there is NO ONE at the Cardinals game today. Terrible crowd.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 09, 2009, 02:03:17 pm
Dice getting worked over by the Rays so far. 4-0 Rays.
Dice is the pitcher me and my dad had discussed staying away from in our fantasy draft because his numbers from last year were very misleading. He walked a ton of batters and somehow seemed to always get ouf jams and keep his ERA under 3.00. We figured this year he couldn't be so fortunate time and time again and may have a 4+ ERA.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 09, 2009, 02:03:17 pm
Dice getting worked over by the Rays so far. 4-0 Rays.
Yankees lead the O's 3-2 in the 4th.
For having "THE BEST FANS IN BASEBALL", there is NO ONE at the Cardinals game today. Terrible crowd.
We are the best fans. Hands down.
I am still trying to find out how you measure the best fans.
Grady finally went yard for me against Texas. But Cleveland still getting stomped.
Carpenter has been masterful today, but we've not helped him any at the plate. The only run Pittsburgh has scored was thanks to a Pujols error.
Josh, people in St. Louis actually work for a living, unlike those bums in Boston whose lives are so crappy that have to live through the Red Sox. ;D
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on April 09, 2009, 02:10:22 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 09, 2009, 02:03:17 pm
Dice getting worked over by the Rays so far. 4-0 Rays.
Yankees lead the O's 3-2 in the 4th.
For having "THE BEST FANS IN BASEBALL", there is NO ONE at the Cardinals game today. Terrible crowd.
We are the best fans. Hands down.
Says the guy with a Marlins avatar.
;)
Quote from: AB™ on April 09, 2009, 02:07:46 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 09, 2009, 02:03:17 pm
Dice getting worked over by the Rays so far. 4-0 Rays.
Dice is the pitcher me and my dad had discussed staying away from in our fantasy draft because his numbers from last year were very misleading. He walked a ton of batters and somehow seemed to always get ouf jams and keep his ERA under 3.00. We figured this year he couldn't be so fortunate time and time again and may have a 4+ ERA.
The Rays are also just freaking loaded. They could definitely win this division again. Then again, so could the Red Sox or Yankees. It's insane that we have to play them a combined 38 times. Geez.
Quote from: SMC on April 09, 2009, 02:12:02 pm
I am still trying to find out how you measure the best fans.
Grady finally went yard for me against Texas. But Cleveland still getting stomped.
You guys and Boston could have a drunken bum contest in the stands. :)
Chris Carpenter has a no-hitter going into the 7th, but is losing 1-0.
If this held up, man that would be comical.
Quote from: jbell96 on April 09, 2009, 02:12:11 pm
Josh, people in St. Louis actually work for a living, unlike those bums in Boston whose lives are so crappy that have to live through the Red Sox. ;D
I actually saw a LOT more homeless people in St. Louis than Boston. I'm just sayin'.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on April 09, 2009, 02:14:19 pm
You guys and Boston could have a drunken bum contest in the stands. :)
Our fans make more sense drunk than Cardinal fans do sober. :D
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 09, 2009, 02:18:32 pm
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on April 09, 2009, 02:14:19 pm
You guys and Boston could have a drunken bum contest in the stands. :)
Our fans make more sense drunk than Cardinal fans do sober. :D
Your a State fan, your used to drunk bums. :)
There's the first Pirate hit, with 2 outs in the 7th.
Dang it, there went Carp's no hitter.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 09, 2009, 02:17:05 pm
Quote from: jbell96 on April 09, 2009, 02:12:11 pm
Josh, people in St. Louis actually work for a living, unlike those bums in Boston whose lives are so crappy that have to live through the Red Sox. ;D
I actually saw a LOT more homeless people in St. Louis than Boston. I'm just sayin'.
That is because they were all in the stadium. ;D
Molina up the middle! Tie game! 1st and 3rd no outs.
Quote from: SMC on April 09, 2009, 02:14:44 pm
Chris Carpenter has a no-hitter going into the 7th, but is losing 1-0.
If this held up, man that would be comical.
Way to freaking jinx it.
Carp's back, baby!
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on April 09, 2009, 02:34:45 pm
Molina up the middle! Tie game! 1st and 3rd no outs.
No idea what Carpenter's PC is, but if he can't throw a CG I would be worried if I was you.
WOW Baltimore. NYY had bases loaded and hit a chopper to the P, and he threw it away from the C and 2 more runs scored. And that's why you suck. Oh well, it's not like the Yankees were going to get swept anyway.
I don't think I jinxed it. Pretty sure that credit goes to the Pirates manager who expected ROSS OHLENDORF to hold a 1-0 lead thru 7.
We are up 2-1 going into the 8th. Time to buckle up for the wild ride that is our bullpen.
Carpenter* could get me the win here. I hope he pans out cuase I was happy at the spot I got him in the draft.
Reyes gets the save, Cardinals win 2-1! Carpenter gets the W, welcome back sir.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 09, 2009, 02:38:08 pm
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on April 09, 2009, 02:34:45 pm
Molina up the middle! Tie game! 1st and 3rd no outs.
No idea what Carpenter's PC is, but if he can't throw a CG I would be worried if I was you.
WOW Baltimore. NYY had bases loaded and hit a chopper to the P, and he threw it away from the C and 2 more runs scored. And that's why you suck. Oh well, it's not like the Yankees were going to get swept anyway.
He had about 95 pitches. That's not bad at all for the first game.
* Bangs his head against the wall as he left Garza and another SP on his bench today in both leagues.
Cards 2-2
Red Sox 1-2.
Quote from: jbell96 on April 09, 2009, 04:27:33 pm
Cards 2-2
Red Sox 1-2.
Yeah, but the Red Sox lost 2 of 3 to the defending AL champions. The Cardinals split with probably the worst franchise in baseball the last 20 years.
Quote from: jbell96 on April 09, 2009, 04:27:33 pm
Cards 2-2
Red Sox 1-2.
There's quite a difference in playing a top three team in baseball and a bottom three team. And all yall could do was split? Don't get me wrong, I'd LOVE to have the Cardinals schedule (or any National League schedule for that matter). We'd win 110+.
Quote from: AB™ on April 09, 2009, 04:46:12 pm
Quote from: jbell96 on April 09, 2009, 04:27:33 pm
Cards 2-2
Red Sox 1-2.
Yeah, but the Red Sox lost 2 of 3 to the defending AL champions. The Cardinals split with probably the worst franchise in baseball the last 20 years.
I wonder who has been worse, the Pirates or the Royals?
That will probably be the last time someone brags about a home split with the Pirates this year, I'd guess.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 09, 2009, 04:50:18 pm
I'd LOVE to have the Cardinals schedule (or any National League schedule for that matter). We'd win 110+.
Eh. Probably not if you went from the AL East to the NL East. The Phillies, Mets, Marlins, and even Braves are solid teams. The NL East is the only division I think is comparable to the AL East. Not saying it's as good or better, but the NL East goes 3 or 4 deep with pretty good teams.
I think the only two divisions where you can say a few teams records are inflated by virtue of playing teams in their division 18 times apiece is the NL and AL West. You might be able to say that about the NL Central as well but the last several years the Cubs, Cardinals, Brewers, and Astros have been pretty good teams to balance out getting to play the Pirates and Reds a combined 36 times.
I've always wondered what the Red Sox would do playing with Ortiz if there wasn't a DH. By now he'd probably have turned into a decent fielding 1B due to playing so many games in the field. His bat is too valuable to leave out of the lineup for a better fielding first baseman.
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Quote from: AB™ on April 09, 2009, 05:41:10 pmEh. Probably not if you went from the AL East to the NL East. The Phillies, Mets, Marlins, and even Braves are solid teams. The NL East is the only division I think is comparable to the AL East. Not saying it's as good or better, but the NL East goes 3 or 4 deep with pretty good teams.
The NL East is good. I will give you that. It's the only division in the the NL worth a da
mn though. The Central really sucks and the West isn't much either. The AL East is just on a different level though. Stacked. It will be awesome in interleague since the AL and NL East are matched up with each other this year.
I still feel confident if Boston was in the NL East we'd win at
least 100 games, even more in the Central or West. Think about how many times those teams play the Pirates, Astros, Padres, etc. At least the East has the Nats to beat up on. There's no Nationals-esque team in the AL East unfortunately. The O's and Blue Jays will hammer you if you have an off day, like we saw Baltimore do to the Yankees their first two games.
If the Braves were in the AL East, they'd definitely win 100.
Quote from: SMC on April 09, 2009, 05:37:46 pm
That will probably be the last time someone brags about a home split with the Pirates this year, I'd guess.
I'm not bragging about that. I just live to harass Red Sux fans.
Quote from: jbell96 on April 09, 2009, 08:54:33 pmI just live to harass Red Sux fans.
Considering we're the most successful MLB franchise this decade, not much to harass about though right? :)
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 09, 2009, 06:09:15 pm
Quote from: AB™ on April 09, 2009, 05:41:10 pmEh. Probably not if you went from the AL East to the NL East. The Phillies, Mets, Marlins, and even Braves are solid teams. The NL East is the only division I think is comparable to the AL East. Not saying it's as good or better, but the NL East goes 3 or 4 deep with pretty good teams.
The NL East is good. I will give you that. It's the only division in the the NL worth a damn though. The Central really sucks and the West isn't much either. The AL East is just on a different level though. Stacked. It will be awesome in interleague since the AL and NL East are matched up with each other this year.
I still feel confident if Boston was in the NL East we'd win at least 100 games, even more in the Central or West. Think about how many times those teams play the Pirates, Astros, Padres, etc. At least the East has the Nats to beat up on. There's no Nationals-esque team in the AL East unfortunately. The O's and Blue Jays will hammer you if you have an off day, like we saw Baltimore do to the Yankees their first two games.
I don't think the Nats are really going to be all that much worse(if any)than the Orioles by the end of the season.
The Dodgers split with Padres. The Padres have a lineup that consists of one All-Star in Adrian Gonzalez and then a bunch of no names. The Dodgers are a legit NL pennant contender. Just because the Orioles took 2 of 3 from the Yankees in the first series of the season doesn't make the AL East's worse team decent. I'm not sold on the Yankees. The Rays and Sox are both deeper on offense and with their pitching.
I think the Nats will be much worse than the Orioles.
Quote from: RHS on April 10, 2009, 12:37:31 am
I think the Nats will be much worse than the Orioles.
That's a bad example on my part because I think the Nats are probably the worst team in baseball. At least the Orioles have some potential sleeper young studs in Adam Jones and Matt Wieters.
Of the two, the Nats are the only ones to have had a legit hold on their division's lead in the past 5 years
Quote from: suspended on April 10, 2009, 02:24:53 pm
Of the two, the Nats are the only ones to have had a legit hold on their division's lead in the past 5 years
And I was talking about this year and going back to last year. I don't think anyone will be too surprised if the Nats finish with the worst record in baseball this year. I don't think the Orioles are nearly as good as what some may want to believe despite taking 2 of 3 from the Yankees.
I'm just not that big of a fan of the whole...'perennial cellar dweller team in the AL took 2 of 3 from AL power so they are pretty solid' but if a team that's bad year in and year out does that to a traditionally good NL team, then that just means the NL is weak.
Marlins and Cardinals win tonight.
Also Lowe was dealing again for me and then weather decided to end that....
Yes I am also not happy that the dang rain robbed me of 10 points in the Fearless league. Lowe was well on his way to a win.
I was hoping he could at least cancel out the horrid outing of one Kevin Gregg.
Lindstrom blew a save but got the win to get me more points than the save would oddly enough.
Watching Tim Wakefield pitch is detrimental to my health.
I need Jered Weaver to pick up this win for my public league team.
The computer picked him for me when my internet crapped out during the middle rounds of the draft. Hopefully he can be a good mistake for me.
Quote from: SMC on April 10, 2009, 10:53:42 pm
I need Jered Weaver to pick up this win for my public league team.
With the way our offense has looked this season it should be in the bag. Absolutely awful.
I should probably clarify on the Wakefield thing. You just can't sit back and relax watching the dude pitch. He gets the first two out back in the 1st inning, then proceeds to walk the next two and hit a batter. Somehow he gets out of it. Last inning he loads the bases with nobody out, and somehow gets out of it allowing no runs. It just grates on you mentally.
You don't have to tell me about how pitchers can make you go mental. I just watched Kevin Gregg attempt to save a game for the Cubs this afternoon.
He walked CHRIS DUFFY to start the inning. I repeat, Chris Duffy. A late inning defensive replacement who hasn't had an MLB at bat in over a year. It's always wise to walk him to start an inning, and then have to pitch to Ryan Braun with the winning run at 3rd base.
I know it's only the 4th game of the season, but I want Kerry Wood back, and that's bad.
Quote from: SMC on April 10, 2009, 10:58:55 pm
You don't have to tell me about how pitchers can make you go mental. I just watched Kevin Gregg attempt to save a game for the Cubs this afternoon.
He walked CHRIS DUFFY to start the inning. I repeat, Chris Duffy. A late inning defensive replacement who hasn't had an MLB at bat in over a year. It's always wise to walk him to start an inning, and then have to pitch to Ryan Braun with the winning run at 3rd base.
I know it's only the 4th game of the season, but I want Kerry Wood back, and that's bad.
I was kind of skeptical of Gregg closing to begin with. He's iffy. Put Marmol back there.
Watching that game today I was like, Chris Duffy? The Pirates reject? Hadn't heard about him in forever.
Computer picked Weaver as well for me in our FF league.
Gregg is trash. I know that Lou wants Marmol to be the guy who comes in when we are in jams (guys on base in the 7th or 8th) and bails us out, but I don't trust Gregg in the 9th. We definitely should have beaten the Brewers today. Need Big Z to shut them down tomorrow.
I've been watching some of the Braves so far this year, and consider me surprised if they finish higher than 4th in the NL East. Their bullpen is a freaking joke. Mike Gonzalez (who lost it about 3 years ago) just blew a save to the Nationals and they're tied 5-5 headed to the bottom of the 9th.
Edit: Braves win, but if they can't hold any leads they aren't going anywhere.
Also, I would appreciate it if we would start SCORING SOME F'ING RUNS. This is ridiculous.
Mariners beat the A's tonight 5-4.
Quote from: SMC on April 10, 2009, 10:58:55 pmI want Kerry Wood back
Never thought I'd see you say that.
Then again, you probably never thought you'd have to talk about Gregg walking Chris Duffy.
I can't quote you Josh but the Braves bullpen will be a big question mark this year. If they can settle in though we could finish second in the divison and possibly win it. We aren't off to a 3-1(should be 4-0)start by accident. Once Hanson gets called up, and if he's a s good as many think he will be, the we'll have one of the best rotations in baseball. Hanson is a pretty dang good 4th or 5th starter. As bad as our bullpen was against the Phillies on Wednesday, I don't think they'll blow too many 7+ run leads in the seventh inning. I do know I'll hold my breath though everytime our starter comes out and we do have to rely on our bullpen to hold a lead until they prove me otherwise. If our offense is this solid all year though, and you couple that with our starting pitching, then you've got a pretty dang good baseball team. So far we've scored at least 4 runs in every game. If you average about 5.5 runs a game then you're going to win a good amount a games.
Phat Albert!!!! Grand Slam!!!!! Cards up 6-0!!
Sweet. Raking me in points in my money league.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on April 11, 2009, 04:46:20 pm
Phat Albert!!!! Grand Slam!!!!! Cards up 6-0!!
BOOSH!!!!!!!!!!
I would rather intentionally walk in a run than pitch to Pujols with the bases loaded. That is just moronic.
Thats his 7th HR off Oswalt in his career. Wonder how many DQ would have given up with his wicked stuff?
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on April 11, 2009, 05:06:45 pm
Thats his 7th HR off Oswalt in his career. Wonder how many DQ would have given up with his wicked stuff?
None.
Albert does it again, with a three run shot to left!!! 9-0 Cards, Albert with 7 RBI.
Albert is already in midseason form. We just need Wainwright to quit walking people and go deeper into games.
Thank you Melvin Mora for hitting me a grand slam :)
MLB ticket is awesome.
Having to sit through Bob Carpenter and Rob Dribbile is enough to drive me insane. I used to like BC, but paired with Dribble the past two nights its the worst homer announcing I've ever heard in my life. For 4+ innings they griped about every pitch.
Add Dibble to my list of worst announcers. He belongs with the Nats.
Quote from: QF© on April 11, 2009, 08:40:05 pm
MLB ticket is awesome.
MLB Extra Innings is so freaking sweet. Every game on every night. I mean, obviously I watch all the Red Sox games, but I watch a ton of other good matchups, whoever it may be for that particular night. I've been watching a lot of the Cubs and Brewers this evening.
I think it's going to save me money long term. Less nights out for dinner to watch more Braves games like it used to be with TBS.
Kelly Johnson* totally awesome today.
Quote from: AB™ on April 10, 2009, 02:41:44 pmI don't think the Orioles are nearly as good as what some may want to believe despite taking 2 of 3 from the Yankees.
I'm just not that big of a fan of the whole...'perennial cellar dweller team in the AL took 2 of 3 from AL power so they are pretty solid' but if a team that's bad year in and year out does that to a traditionally good NL team, then that just means the NL is weak.
I wasn't joking when I said I thought the Orioles were a fairly decent team. They're on the verge of shutting out the Rays 6-0 tonight and going for the sweep tomorrow. The Blue Jays are also off to a 5-1 start and are not a bad team either. There just isn't a "bad" team in the AL East. Of course Baltimore and Toronto will eventually fade to the back of the pack in the division, but they're not your typical bottomfeeder team like the Nationals. As long as you don't roll out your AAA bench players (and even then you stand a chance), you should be able to at least take 2 of 3 from the Nats. Baltimore and Toronto, while highly likely to finish 4th and 5th in the AL East, can put it on you in a hurry if you're not careful. That was the point I was trying to make earlier in the thread.
Nice to see the bats come alive today and put a few runs on the board. Jason Bay with 2 HR's and Mike Lowell added 1 of his own. The 9th inning about gave me a heart attack as the Angels had the bases loaded and flew out to end the game. Brad Penny also did a nice job today. If we can get a solid effort from him consistently as the #5, watch out. Beckett going tomorrow in the rubber game.
Carpenter is a great announcer, I agree tho Dibble is the definition of awful. I have been enjoying getting to see the Royals on Cox tho. I forgot just how awesome their home uniforms are.
Carpenter has regressed. I through my socks at those two announcing tonight. It was repetitive 10 years whining.
KC's Kauffman Stadium looks awesome from the remodel. I've been their a dozen times or so over the years. But not in the past several.
Got to get a good look at that sometime this year.
Soriano just BLASTED a 2 run shot in the 9th to put the Cubs up 6-5 at Milwaukee. Wow.
Quote from: QF© on April 11, 2009, 09:08:33 pmKC's Kauffman Stadium looks awesome from the remodel.
It really does. I was just talking about that last night when I first saw it. I love the bleachers all around the OF.
By the way, you're complaining about the Nationals announcers right? Why don't you just watch the Braves crew?
I only got the Nat's feed. I'm on cable and it has fed me the Nat's version. I know last night it was the only feed. I honestly didn't check tonight. But last night the preview channel only showed one feed.
Should I have looked around? I can't imagine they use both feeds. There are only so many channels and I figured they just didn't duplicate.
?
Carlos Marmol's pimp hand is STRONG.
Sit down, Braun.
Sit down, Fielder.
We win.
Quote from: QF© on April 11, 2009, 09:15:45 pm
I only got the Nat's feed. I'm on cable and it has fed me the Nat's version. I know last night it was the only feed. I honestly didn't check tonight. But last night the preview channel only showed one feed.
Should I have looked around? I can't imagine they use both feeds. There are only so many channels and I figured they just didn't duplicate.
?
Really now. That's interesting.
I have Directv and they give you the channels for each team, which is why they have like 30 different channels listed. For example, if I'm getting ready to watch the Orioles @ Red Sox, they will have the top channel in the guide for the Orioles broadcast, and the channel below will have the Red Sox. It's awesome because you always get to listen to your guys every single game. I just assumed yours was like that too.
Quote from: SMC on April 11, 2009, 09:24:47 pm
Carlos Marmol's pimp hand is STRONG.
Sit down, Braun.
Sit down, Fielder.
We win.
Gregg as a setup man + Marmol as closer = success. They need to keep it that way.
Maybe when I pay that'll change. It's the free preview. However, I did see a huge billboard of games and they did just show each game one time.
Right now, Cox only shows about 9 channels dedicated to MLB Extra Innings. In theory, you'd need 40-60 to cover both feeds of each game. Maybe when the preview is over it'll change.
I've withheld paying for it just yet, but am going to call Cox on Monday. I have some questions for them now.
BTW, have I mentioned I can't stand Rob Drivvle?
Well, it isssss onlyyyyyy AAAAApril for the Cubs. ;D
So here's a TV question. I am looking into getting DirecTV, the Premier Package that has like 300 channels.
So if I had all these channels with baseball rights -
Comcast SportsNet Chicago
Comcast SportsNet Mid Atlantic
Comcast SportsNet New England
Comcast SportsNet West
FSN Arizona
FSN Bay Area
FSN Cincinnati
FSN Detroit
FSN Florida
FSN Midwest
FSN New York
FSN North
FSN Northwest
FSN Ohio
FSN Pittsburgh
FSN Prime Ticket
FSN Rocky Mountain
FSN South
FSN Southwest
FSN West
Mid-Atlantic Sports Network
MLB Network
New England Sports Network
SportsNet New York
Sun Sports
SportSouth
YES Network
Would I get almost every MLB game? Would buying MLB Extra Innings be redundant?
Quote from: QF© on April 11, 2009, 09:30:06 pm
Well, it isssss onlyyyyyy AAAAApril for the Cubs. ;D
Yeah, I would kill to be as successful as the Braves the last couple of years...
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 11, 2009, 09:27:37 pm
Quote from: SMC on April 11, 2009, 09:24:47 pm
Carlos Marmol's pimp hand is STRONG.
Sit down, Braun.
Sit down, Fielder.
We win.
Gregg as a setup man + Marmol as closer = success. They need to keep it that way.
I agree. And that will help my fantasy team also.
Quote from: SMC on April 11, 2009, 09:34:00 pm
Quote from: QF© on April 11, 2009, 09:30:06 pm
Well, it isssss onlyyyyyy AAAAApril for the Cubs. ;D
Yeah, I would kill to be as successful as the Braves the last couple of years...
I can only imagine what your lifetime as a Cub fan is like. ;D
Josh come on, it's the first week of April. The Orioles started off hot last year as well. Until they get more pitching they aren't going to be a team to take that serious over the course of a season. They have some nice young talent on offense but they are still probably a year or two away from being a legit team once they get some of their young pitching prospects developed and into the big leagues. I just don't see them being this years Rays.
Quote from: SMC on April 11, 2009, 09:31:34 pmWould I get almost every MLB game? Would buying MLB Extra Innings be redundant?
No. Without the Extra Innings package those channels get blacked out when the MLB games come on.
Now you're going to say "Well, what's the point of getting those channels then?".
The answer: I've had the Sports Pack for 5 years now, and even when baseball isn't in season the SP comes in really handy. You get a TON of random college basketball and football games, college baseball here and there, etc. If you're a serious sports fan, (and I know you are) both the SP and Extra Innings are worth the cash. You wouldn't be missing UNC games every Sunday for the Mavs because you could flip over and watch them on FSN South or some other channel. There's always games on somewhere.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 11, 2009, 09:37:51 pm
Quote from: SMC on April 11, 2009, 09:31:34 pmWould I get almost every MLB game? Would buying MLB Extra Innings be redundant?
No. Without the Extra Innings package those channels get blacked out when the MLB games come on.
Now you're going to say "Well, what's the point of getting those channels then?".
The answer: I've had the Sports Pack for 5 years now, and even when baseball isn't in season the SP comes in really handy. You get a TON of random college basketball and football games, college baseball here and there, etc. If you're a serious sports fan, (and I know you are) both the SP and Extra Innings are worth the cash. You wouldn't be missing UNC games every Sunday for the Mavs because you could flip over and watch them on FSN South or some other channel. There's always games on somewhere.
You're kidding. What about the NBA and NHL games? Do those get blacked out too if you don't have Center Ice, and whatever the NBA package is called?
Quote from: SMC on April 11, 2009, 09:39:17 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 11, 2009, 09:37:51 pm
Quote from: SMC on April 11, 2009, 09:31:34 pmWould I get almost every MLB game? Would buying MLB Extra Innings be redundant?
No. Without the Extra Innings package those channels get blacked out when the MLB games come on.
Now you're going to say "Well, what's the point of getting those channels then?".
The answer: I've had the Sports Pack for 5 years now, and even when baseball isn't in season the SP comes in really handy. You get a TON of random college basketball and football games, college baseball here and there, etc. If you're a serious sports fan, (and I know you are) both the SP and Extra Innings are worth the cash. You wouldn't be missing UNC games every Sunday for the Mavs because you could flip over and watch them on FSN South or some other channel. There's always games on somewhere.
You're kidding. What about the NBA and NHL games? Do those get blacked out too if you don't have Center Ice, and whatever the NBA package is called?
Yeah, same thing. That's why they want you to buy the package. The Sports Pack itself is mainly centered on college sports. If you have it there's no need to buy ESPN Gameplan or Fullcourt though. For some reason they don't black out those games. I'll check the listings for Fullcourt sometimes and they will often have the same games there as I'm watching on the Sports Pack.
That is retarded. Why would I want Comcast Chicago if I CANNOT watch the Cubs on it. I don't want to watch Northern Illinois football. This territorial restrictions thing is a joke.
MLB's blackout rules are SO outdated. I mean how in the heck am I in Houstons "local" market along with St. Louis? Thats insanity.
Quote from: SMC on April 11, 2009, 09:46:52 pm
That is retarded. Why would I want Comcast Chicago if I CANNOT watch the Cubs on it. I don't want to watch Northern Illinois football. This territorial restrictions thing is a joke.
Yeah, if you want to watch the Cubs you have to get Extra Innings. The Sports Pack thing comes in handy for college games and you would see virtually every UNC game. If you aren't a college sports fan, it's really not worth getting, unless you just wanted to watch a bunch of Cubs pre and postgame shows. Haha.
I mean, I get to watch all but about 5 UNC games a year to begin with, even without extra channels. The reason I'd want the sports pack is to see the Cubs, Knicks, etc. I don't want to pay double to see them, though.
Quote from: SMC on April 11, 2009, 09:55:52 pm
I mean, I get to watch all but about 5 UNC games a year to begin with, even without extra channels. The reason I'd want the sports pack is to see the Cubs, Knicks, etc. I don't want to pay double to see them, though.
In that case you'd just need to buy the Extra Innings package.
I was just hoping that buying the Premier Package would somehow land me most of the Cub games, plus NBA and NHL games. I guess that was just a pipe dream.
Ryan, I told you Jack Cust would go off for double digit points today since I put him on my bench. He went for 13.
Mariners win another 8-5 today over the A's.
Quote from: dc24 on April 12, 2009, 12:24:02 am
Mariners win another 8-5 today over the A's.
I finally drop them and the seem to be winning.
Josh, this might not be a good sign for the Sox.
FF Fantasy Standings(after 1 week)
1. QF's Boys of Summer 427
2. BoSox Hip Wreckers 405
3. Short Bus Crew 352
4. dc24 337
5. Ramblin' Man 324
6. Pickin Machine 322
7. Baum Squad Bombers 312
8. Paul's Computer 305
9. Braves 287
10. Bell Dingers 255
;D I'm more surprised than anyone. I expect to fall any time to middle of the pack.
I was in a distant last place with 49 points Wednesday.
Josh Johnson just came very close to a complete game shutout. He went into the bottom of the 9th with a 2-0 lead and got two outs. Beltran knocked in Delgado but Johnson still got the complete game win.
FYI(especially MSU), today I'm getting the Braves feed from their game with the Nat's after two days of the other way around.
Now thats more like it!
*Santana 7 IP 14 K's and 1 BB.
Yet a loss. +14. Pooh. The bonus is it was a Mets loss in the division. But on the flip, a Marlins win to keep them at least in a share of first.
Braves bullpen today: 3.2 IP, 1 ER, 5 BB, 5 Ks.
Uh oh. Two good bullpen performances in a row by the Braves bullpen. Watchout! What say you now Josh? ;D
I know it's the Nationals, but still, it's something to build on.
Josh effing Johnson. That is all.
LOHSE!!!!! You beauty!
Complete game shutout, 4 Ks, 0 BBs.....and 33 fantasy points for me :)
Kyle Lohse pitched his one fem for the year. I still can't get over how in the heck he pitched a complete game shutout. He's Kyle Lohse!!
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on April 12, 2009, 06:25:13 pm
LOHSE!!!!! You beauty!
Complete game shutout, 4 Ks, 0 BBs.....and 33 fantasy points for me :)
22 for me. ON MY F'ING BENCH!!
Screw you Beckett with your -2.
Quote from: AB™ on April 12, 2009, 06:33:23 pm
Kyle Lohse pitched his one fem for the year. I still can't get over how in the heck he pitched a complete game shutout. He's Kyle Lohse!!
He did win 15 last year so it's not like he is completely coming out of nowhere.
On my team in Josh's league I've got one point from all of my batters so far today. ONE POINT!
I think I still have negative points for the season in the FF league from my starting 3B. Chris Davis with -3 again today. Please QUIT striking out.
I don't know what it's going to take for the Red Sox to get some offense going, but my patience is already wearing thin just 6 games into the season. JD Drew and Mike Lowell, those were pathetic performances today. Unbelievable.
Also, Mike Scioscia and the rest of the Angels. Go F yourselves after that ridiculous 1st inning crap. Seriously.
If anyone needs me for the next hour or so, I will be curled up in a fetal position, as a Cub lead is about to be handed over to the bullpen.
Quote from: SMC on April 12, 2009, 09:29:12 pm
If anyone needs me for the next hour or so, I will be curled up in a fetal position, as a Cub lead is about to be handed over to the bullpen.
They better not screw me out of 10 more points.
Corey Hart needs to get rid of that mullet. Seriously, man, you look like a giant tool.
Quote from: SMC on April 12, 2009, 09:35:19 pm
Corey Hart needs to get rid of that mullet. Seriously, man, you look like a giant tool.
Corey Hart can keep that mullet all he wants as long as he keeps hitting me HRs.
Mariners sweep the A's. Bedard pitched into the 9th and got a W, and we held on to win 1-0. Big series at home with the Angels starting Tuesday.
Quote from: SMC on April 12, 2009, 09:29:12 pm
If anyone needs me for the next hour or so, I will be curled up in a fetal position, as a Cub lead is about to be handed over to the bullpen.
Marmol > Gregg
No doubt. Gregg is garbage. Marmol needs to be closer ASAP.
Cubs home opener, heck yes.
Too bad we are without 3 of our best players due to Soto having a shoulder problem, Bradley pulling something in his groin yesterday running the bases, and Ramirez sitting out due to the cold weather possibly bothering his bad back.
Soriano LF
Theriot SS
Fukudome CF
Lee 1B
Fontenot 3B
Johnson RF
Miles 2B
Hill C
What a lineup! lol
If you have WGN, Ted Lilly is doing something through 6 innings that I don't want to mention for fear of jinxing.
How many pitches have Rockies pitchers thrown all together, as a staff, in this game?
Through 5 innings it was 133 pitches total. At the end of the inning I will give you an update.
16 pitches that inning, so 149 through 6.
So how is Soto working out for ya Ryan? :)
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on April 13, 2009, 04:46:20 pm
So how is Soto working out for ya Ryan? :)
Ugh. He at least avoided a DL trip, supposed to play Wednesday.
Dangit. There goes the no no.
Stay classy cubs fans : http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4065613
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on April 10, 2009, 11:16:10 pm
Computer picked Weaver as well for me in our FF league.
Ummm. Which Weaver? I know this was posted a few days ago but I was just looking at my team for the first time since this post and saw I have Jered Weaver. Is Jeff even still in the league? Are you sure you have Weaver? Because he's on my bench in the FF league.
Quote from: AB™ on April 13, 2009, 05:10:53 pm
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on April 10, 2009, 11:16:10 pm
Computer picked Weaver as well for me in our FF league.
Ummm. Which Weaver? I know this was posted a few days ago but I was just looking at my team for the first time since this post and saw I have Jered Weaver. Is Jeff even still in the league? Are you sure you have Weaver? Because he's on my bench in the FF league.
I was thinking of the wrong league, I guess I picked him up in one of the later rounds on Josh's cause I don't remember it. Oh well lol
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on April 13, 2009, 05:25:32 pm
Quote from: AB™ on April 13, 2009, 05:10:53 pm
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on April 10, 2009, 11:16:10 pm
Computer picked Weaver as well for me in our FF league.
Ummm. Which Weaver? I know this was posted a few days ago but I was just looking at my team for the first time since this post and saw I have Jered Weaver. Is Jeff even still in the league? Are you sure you have Weaver? Because he's on my bench in the FF league.
I was thinking of the wrong league, I guess I picked him up in one of the later rounds on Josh's cause I don't remember it. Oh well lol
It's all good. I just wanted to make sure I was missing something haha.
And the Mets finally have a home stadium that does not resemble a land fill as Citi Field opens tonight.
Andre Either gets me two HR's today. Solid.
How about Citi Field's dimensions! 411 and 415 to the power alleys over some pretty tall walls. You're a man if you hit a homer to one of the power alleys.
I think they said the walls were 18ft in some areas. And ironically the first ever hit was a HR.
lol at Wang. Gave up four runs to TB in the 1st inning and threw like 45 pitches. Kirk I hope you started him :) .
Adrian Gonzalez just went yard. He might be the most underrated star in baseball. The guy can rake.
If I was the Mets, and I had a young franchise 3B like David Wright who has big time power, I definitely want to build a park with a LCF power alley of 415 feet.....
What. The. Heck?
Haha, nevermind.
Just get him to rope it down the line I guess :)
I agree Ryan, but Steve Phillips pointed out that teams tend to have more long term success when they have a park that is more pitcher friendly. I don't know is patterns over the years back that up or not though. I mean David Wright probably has 10 more years of elite level production left in him. It will be interesting to see how this new park will affect how power numbers.
It doesn't matter, IMO, how pitcher friendly Citi is, if the Mets don't add another bonafide starter or two to backup Johan.
I love pitcher friendly parks. Home runs have to be shots and the speed guys get to take advantage.
Did anyone mention to Phillips that the Giants and Padres both built CAVERN ballparks in the last 10 years, and both suck on ice?
Well obviously it isn't going to be true in every case. ;)
Heck yes, my FF Fantasy team is showing signs of life. My offense has 85 points with two guys still playing, Peralta & Ludwick, & my pitchers have 34 with at least 10 more coming from a Kazmir win. I might be out of last tomorrow! ;D
Looks like I will be losing first place in Josh's league tonight. Oh well, I will get it back. :)
100 pt night seems likely. Those are awesome. I wish there was a way to track 100+ nights as a sidebar contest.
Sweet, I will take over last place!
JBell, you're sitting on 120 for the day right now! Put's you up to 8th at this moment.
My team in Josh's league hasn't done jack in the last three days including a 2-30 performance one night.
lol Yankees. Way to put the beat down on Rays!
Red Sox and A's getting going on the west coast. If we don't take 2 of 3 in this series I may lose my mind.
Jed Lowrie to the DL today. Fantastic. Ugh.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on April 13, 2009, 09:10:19 pm
My team in Josh's league hasn't done jack in the last three days including a 2-30 performance one night.
How 'bout my man Zack Greinke doing some things tonight! 9 K's in 5 IP. Go Royals.
Lowrie on the DL will at least not get me negative points. Dude has been trash.
Quote from: QF© on April 13, 2009, 09:05:34 pm
JBell, you're sitting on 120 for the day right now! Put's you up to 8th at this moment.
I'm going to get at least 10 more since Kazmir will likely get a win unless the Yankees pull off a monster comeback.
And "El Hombre" does it again. Pujols homers in the 4th to put the Cards up 1-0.
Al Hrobosky (sp?) on how he would pitch Albert : "I would just hit him, no other way to get around him"
Lulz
LULZ, the Mets lost their home opener.
Quote from: SMC on April 13, 2009, 09:23:24 pm
Lowrie on the DL will at least not get me negative points. Dude has been trash.
Jed has gotten off to a terrible start, but our SS depth is now officially shot. Lugo out til May, Lowrie on the DL now, and we have the immortal NICK GREEN manning SS for now. Holy crap.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on April 13, 2009, 09:30:07 pm
Al Hrobosky (sp?) on how he would pitch Albert : "I would just hit him, no other way to get around him"
Lulz
I certainly know how I would pitch Albert Pujols.
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Ryan your a firm believer of walk in a run if you have to against him arent you?
Well, the guy hitting behind him is hitting .400 right now so as long as Ludwick keeps hitting well there won't be much of a reason to walk him.
If a grand slam could tie or beat me in the late innings, yes. I would "unintentionally" intentionally walk him.
I'd only really pitch to him with bases empty. If he was up with a base open and other runners on base, I would definitely give the IBB.
We can't even compete with the A's.
Seriously. FML.
Twins have had a lead the entire game against Toronto. Toronto took a 1-0 lead in I believe the first, but the Twins responded in the bottom of the inning. We have had a 3 run lead, and a 2 run lead on a few different occasions in this game. Toronto's bats are on fire now, though. Toronto just took the lead 8-6 and now has 17 hits.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 13, 2009, 09:47:18 pm
We can't even compete with the A's.
Seriously. FML.
LULZ ;D
Cardinals cant hit soft just lefthanders. Thank God for Albert and Wellemeyer so far.
Ridiculous. The Twins have had a runner on 3rd with no outs 3 times in this game. The previous two times they didn't get it in. Two struck out, and the last batter flied out. In the bottom of the 8th, they are down 2 and have a runner on 3rd. He was there with no outs. Two straight and struck out now. If we don't get this run in I am going to break something.
J-lo, I did have Wang going tonight. I also had Lester, though he won't kill me too bad.
My hitting more than made up for it though, but what could have been a fantastic night turns into just a really, really good night.
I left 31 points on my bench between Konerko and Zimmerman, and all of my other hitters combined gave me 36 points. I wish I had remembered to put Konerko in for Tex since Tex is on the DL.
I did get 30 points from Billingsley, but I meant to move Votto to 1B, Konerko to IF, and put Zimmerman in for Span in one of my utility spots. Oh well.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 13, 2009, 09:47:18 pm
We can't even compete with the A's.
Seriously. FML.
im gonna cosign this....
MSU, you need to tell your boy Ellsbury to get his crap together. He has FIVE TOTAL POINTS for the season so far. He has been benched in favor of freaking Conor Jackson. This is unacceptable.
I would have definitely traded Jed Lowrie's -3 points for Ellsbury's 5.
And I just picked up NOMAHHHHH. I told you guys he was in for a resurgence year. He jacked one against the BoSox last night. With Chavez hurt, he is now an everyday player for the A's. Nomar FTW!
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on April 14, 2009, 06:47:34 am
MSU, you need to tell your boy Ellsbury to get his crap together. He has FIVE TOTAL POINTS for the season so far. He has been benched in favor of freaking Conor Jackson. This is unacceptable.
Which is why I let others draft him way too early. I was afraid of this.
Ellsbury just looks lost at the plate. It's like, every pitch he sees he appears surprised. I don't know what to do with these guys. What a nightmare.
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on April 14, 2009, 09:47:37 am
He jacked one against the BoSox last night.
That's not much of an accomplishment these days though. It's all the rage. Didn't you know?
HOLY FRIC
K
It's breaking that Josh Beckett is suspended 6 games?!? This is probably the biggest joke in a long time. Wow wow wow. If anyone saw what actually happened. I... There really are no words.
Quote"He took too long delivering the ball," said crew chief Joe West. "Abreu called time, which is normal. Then Beckett, in the middle of throwing the ball, threw the ball. They should throw the ball, rather than risk an injury.
"Did he throw it up and in? Yeah. Do we believe he threw it at Abreu? No. Would we have warned him had both benches not emptied? Probably not, but because both benches emptied, we did issue a warning," explained West.
And he's being suspended for this. F off, MLB.
It's only 6 games because he's a pitcher. They are basically suspending him ONE game.
Hopefully the person who takes Beckett's start won't be able to take naps in between pitches.
I understand why you are mad if that is the reasoning given by the ump. That doesn't sound like much of a reason to warrant a suspension but I'm guessing he'll miss only one start so it isn't a huge deal.
I just watched it for the first time on youtube, and I didn't see a whole lot to warrant a suspension. Most of the chatter I heard about this on talk radio seemed to say Beckett probably did do it intentionally. The ump is probably the most at fault for issuing the time out so late. Beckett probably did somewhat do this intentionally but MLB really didn't have much grounds to suspsend him and only him for this altercation. It they're going to give him a suspension then they probably could have given out a few others. He wasn't even ejected from the game that I'm aware of.
The only thing I can see that Beckett might have done to set off Abreu and the ensuing bench clearing, was Beckett walking towards the plate mouthing something. I'm guessing it was aimed at Abreu and it set the whole thing off. But there is no real way of knowing that. If the benches hadn't ever cleared then there probably wouldn't be a suspension.
Quote from: SMC on April 14, 2009, 02:06:47 pm
It's only 6 games because he's a pitcher. They are basically suspending him ONE game.
I don't care if they suspended him 1 game, 10 games, 3 innings, whatever - him being suspended is ABSURD. So Joe West says they probably wouldn't have even issued a warning had the benches not cleared and he's being suspended for this? There were FOUR Angels who were ejected - Torii Hunter, Justin Speier, and 2 coaches. And Beckett is the one suspended? What's wrong with this picture?
Quote from: AB™ on April 14, 2009, 02:10:55 pmThe only thing I can see that Beckett might have done to set off Abreu and the ensuing bench clearing, was Beckett walking towards the plate mouthing something. I'm guessing it was aimed at Abreu and it set the whole thing off. But there is no real way of knowing that. If the benches hadn't ever cleared then there probably wouldn't be a suspension.
If Abreu hadn't gotten a little sand in his vag
ina and acted like a pansy waving his hands in the air nothing would've happened. Beckett was walking towards the plate mouthing at him probably because he realized how ridiculous it was that Abreu was acting like it was a huge deal or something (which it obviously wasn't). Then the rest of the Angels decide, hey! Lets throw a fit and act like absolute idiots! Yes! Rip his head off! It all went downhill from there. The fact is it should've been a non issue if Abreu would've just acted like man and gotten back in the box. Good grief.
And for those of you who have no idea what I'm talking about, watch this and see for yourself how ridiculous MLB is for handing down this suspension. You tell me what he did to deserve suspending. Anyone.
Meanwhile, lets just fine Torii Hunter and Justin Speier! They weren't trying to run out and fight Beckett or anything!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcdh7lRWWcA
I agree that if Beckett is going to get a suspension then maybe an Angel player or two deserved one but I don't think Abreu overreacted. Abreu was warranted a timeout, was stepping out of the box, and a ball came high and inside at his head. It seems to me he threw up his arms wondering why Beckett had done that. If the ball had came inside just a tad more and Abreu wasn't paying attention it could have resulted in a life threatening injury. He didn't charge the mound or anything. I don't think he reacted any differently than most other players in the league would have reacted.
Him being suspended is a joke. I think the ref is the cause of the problems with his late time awarded.
I have no love for the Sox, but that suspension is retarded.
I don't get how a player can be suspended for something that didn't even cause him to get ejected from a game. The MLB front office screwed the pooch on this one.
6 games is designed to get more of his pay check as a punishment. I am a little perplexed with this development though. As stated, he wasn't thrown from the game yet here's his punishment.
My guess is he admitted to what he did in some manner after the fact.
Selig needs to go. This is on his watch.
Quote from: G™ on April 14, 2009, 05:19:32 pm
The ump should have thrown him out.
The ump should've never granted such a late time.
And I know Beckett was holding the ball for a while there. Figgins was on base and he was trying to throw off his rhythm. It happens all the time.
Quote from: QF© on April 14, 2009, 05:58:03 pm
6 games is designed to get more of his pay check as a punishment.
For pitchers they usually go with 5-6 games so they have to miss one start. I hope he appeals (I'm sure he will) and can get it reduced but I highly doubt it. It's still ridiculous though.
Oh I agree with SP's it's normally just a start. I just think 6 games is a little different than normal. I bet you 5 is the max 95% of the time. 6 just makes me think they wanted to cost him an extra game check is all.
Maybe the ump should have never granted time that late but he was taking an hour to throw and it looks like he threw it right at his head.
Yankees lead the Rays 2-0 through 5.
Burnett has a no hitter going.
Volstad has given up 2 hits against the Braves through 6 and leads 3-1.
Edit: Make that 3 hits trough 7, Marlins still lead 3-1.
Vasquez has had a nice start but the Marlins have a sick rotation. They are probably the most complete team in the NL East right now. I could see them winning the division and the Braves, Mets, and Phillies fighting it out for the wildcard.
They have an awesome mix of power and speed with a young potentially awesome rotation.
Final Marlins 5-1. Atlanta meet Mr. Volstad.
Honestly, with the Phillies having a pretty below average rotation, and the Mets having one good starter and 4 question marks in their rotation, I could see the Marlins and Braves finishing 1st and 2nd. When we call up Hanson we'll have a rotation, 1-5, that is very solid as well. I think the Marlins get the edge over the Braves when it comes to lineup depth. The Braves are missing a legit 35+ HR power bat in the middle of their lineup or they would potentially be a very good team.
Hanley is a stud. The AL can talk all they want about being far superior to the NL. The two best players in baseball reside in the NL. ;D
BJ Upton runs like Matt Jones used to. He doesn't look like he is flying but he is covering so much ground on each step its insane.
Quote from: AB™ on April 14, 2009, 08:46:17 pmThe AL can talk all they want about being far superior to the NL.
And we are. :)
Red Sox and A's coming up. If we don't win tonight, well, lets just not go there.
WIN
Its funny to see the Sox and Yanks in the bottom 2 of the AL East. I don't care how early it is.
Quote from: AB™ on April 14, 2009, 08:46:17 pmHanley is a stud. The AL can talk all they want about being far superior to the NL. The two best players in baseball reside in the NL. ;D
You can thank the Sox for giving him to you. :)
I had 4 players have their game rained out today, and a pitcher. I missed out on 5 bodies getting me points.
Mariners beat the Angels 3-2 in 10 innings.
Josh, I am almost 100% positive my full support of the Sox will doom the team.
So within ten mintues of each other both Carpenter and Dice K go out with injuries.
Wow. We get a 3-0 lead in the 1st, only to have the A's bat around and score 5 runs on Dice-K who left with an undisclosed injury. I'm sorry but this is seriously getting ridiculous.
Masterson pitched the 2nd and will probably be in for the long haul this game.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on April 14, 2009, 09:59:58 pm
So within ten mintues of each other both Carpenter and Dice K go out with injuries.
5 starts from Carpenter from 2007-2009. Starts first game of last season and is done for the season....comes out hurt in 2nd start of this season in only the 4th inning....FML.
I feel so bad for him because I know he's ready to play and sick of being on the DL but I can't help but be so darn irritated with it all. I'm ready for him to be freaking and healthy and able to pitch again.
Yaddi just straight stole second lol. Then he scored from 2nd on a single, perhaps he is getting a bit faster.
Dice-K was the one pitcher me and my dad spent most of Spring Training talking about staying away from. Not because of him being an injury problem, but because last year his ERA and win total were a fluke. He walks a ton of batters. It's a miracle he had an ERA as low as he did and won as many games as he did. It seems like every start I watched he would have 5+ walks by the 3rd or 4th inning. Maybe this could be a good thing for the Sox in the long run if it's an injury that keeps him out for awhile. It can give someone like Bucholz a chance to step in and maybe make the leap to bonafie big league starter.
Quote from: rabs_fan4life on April 14, 2009, 10:14:59 pm5 starts from Carpenter from 2007-2009.
That's Carl Pavano-esque in his time with the yanks.
AB, I know during Ryan's formula search for good batters before fantasy drafts, Dice-K kept coming up as the #1 overrated pitcher.
ESPN said Carp had a strained rib cage so at least it isn't related to his shoulder.
He did it while swinging. When he gets back he is not allowed to take the bat off his shoulder.
Justin Masterson = all that is man
And the Gas Can Gang reared its ugly head. Thanks for playing Josh Kinney.
Well...at least Conor Jackson got me 12 fantasy points.
Not over yet. Bases loaded with one out & Rasmus at the plate with Pujols on deck.
Rasmus! At a kid.
Come on Albert! Show them why you are the best in baseball!!!
Albert! Tie game baby!
Tony better let Ludwick hit here. He's only hitting over .400 right now.
EDIT: No offense to Brendan Ryan, but come on! Ludwick is raking right now!
Is this game on TV anywhere?
Yea Brendon Ryan, great at bat..............
Back in the dog house for him. We may not see him for weeks.
Way to go Tony. Have some rookie strike out with a .400 hitter on the bench. FML
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on April 14, 2009, 11:30:23 pm
Is this game on TV anywhere?
96, the crap feed, for me.
Qualls got me a BS, so he can go away, but Pujols got me a hit and a RBI.
Brendon is not a rookie but still Ludwick should have batted. And they should have scored from second on Alberts hit.
Book it, we'll lose 7-6.
jbell, both teams have gone gas can.
Yeah, but Arizona's pen weren't anointed the "Gas Can Gang" by one of their own fans. ;D
Should be ballgame here.........
I hate being right sometimes. (sigh)
EDIT: And sometimes I love being wrong! ;D
May have to have Ankiel pitch if this one goes to long lol.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on April 14, 2009, 11:48:53 pm
May have to have Ankiel pitch if this one goes to long lol.
Maybe he'll almost hit someone and get suspended for 6 games! ;D
You guys will have a long and frustrating season if you can't settle on a closer.
For those that always see me talk about a crappy feed, I offer you fotos.
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Glad I stayed up til 1:30 for that... And I have to be up at 6:00. Awesome.
DUBBYA TEE EFF!! What the crap happened...we lost?? Due to Nyquil I was struggling to stay awake and called it quits in the bottom of the 8th. I remember thinking to myself "I'm gonna flip if I wake up and we lost this dang thing" but I didn't actually think it would happen. Seriously...extra innings and we lose...FML.
Carpenter: 3IP 0R
Bullpen: 6+ 7R
FML
And I have Carpenter*.
Fortunately, I missed carnage after the 6th.
Quote from: QF© on April 15, 2009, 01:28:15 pmFortunately, I missed carnage after the 6th.
I may have been watching but I feel like I missed it too, lol.
Oh you've gotta love a Tim Wakefield start. He's either going to get shelled and not get out of the 2nd or 3rd, or you'll get what he's given the Sox today, flirting with something special.
Tim Wakefield has a no hitter in the 7th against Oakland. (JINX JINX JINX JINX)
It's in the bag.
Quote from: jbell96 on April 15, 2009, 03:58:54 pm
Tim Wakefield has a no hitter in the 7th against Oakland. (JINX JINX JINX JINX)
It would be a perfect game if it wasn't for the 1 error by the Sox.
Ha Ha, my jinx worked.
What is that, three no-no's that have been busted up in the 7th this year? Carp, Lilly, Wakefield?
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on April 15, 2009, 04:40:11 pm
What is that, three no-no's that have been busted up in the 7th this year? Carp, Lilly, Wakefield?
Wake lost it in the 8th with 1 down.
Regardless, what a performance. With the game going 12 innings last night and having just a 13 hour turnaround the 'pen needed a rest. He put the team on his back today with the CG. Now we have the day off tomorrow and can go back home for 4 vs Baltimore. Time to get things back on track.
Carpenter got injured? He has the durability of Milton Bradley.
Quote from: SMC on April 15, 2009, 07:11:52 pm
Carpenter got injured? He has the durability of Milton Bradley.
That gave me 4 SP's in fantasy on the DL at the same time. One I started with(Smoltz).
Smoltz is your fault. No offense, but that was a stupid pick, unless he comes back and gets like 20 holds.
I hate watching the Braves play a home game and get the Marlins crew. This entire game I've had to sit here and listen to these homers ramble on and on about every single Marlins player.
I'm sure that Andrew Miller is going to do what every other Marlins pitcher has done this year and pitch a gem. I want to like the Marlins so bad, mainly because of Miller, but I've always kind of liked them. But if their starting pitching comes out and pitches a brilliant game(especially against the Braves)every game, then I'm going to be hating them by the All-Star break. Surely their starting pitching can't be this ridiculously sick all season long.
Quote from: AB™ on April 15, 2009, 07:24:01 pm
Smoltz is your fault. No offense, but that was a stupid pick, unless he comes back and gets like 20 holds.
You think? I'm not complaining about him. We'll see what develps for him, but his rehab is ahead of schedule. For the 25th round(and 243rd overall) of a 26 round draft, I like the pick.
And it is brutal listening to other announcers do Braves games. I guess years of TBS has groomed us to a certain way and having them on ticket w/o the Braves people all the time certainly takes away from it for me.
The Marlins certainly look strong.
Don't worry. My last 2 or 3 picks of that draft were stupid as well. We all made stupid picks. It's just a harsher way of wording it.
I don't know how much longer I can watch this game without it being on mute.
I'm curious what determines what feed we get. The guy at Cox didn't know. It's just random it seems. I wonder if we could petition into our market somehow?
4-3. We're showing life.
Quote from: AB™ on April 15, 2009, 07:24:01 pm
Smoltz is your fault. No offense, but that was a stupid pick, unless he comes back and gets like 20 holds.
Smoltz is coming back as a SP.
Quote from: QF© on April 15, 2009, 07:38:13 pm
I'm curious what determines what feed we get. The guy at Cox didn't know. It's just random it seems.
I don't get why if you pay for the Extra Innings package you aren't getting both feeds. You should be. This is why I'm glad I have Directv. Can't beat it.
I can't believe nobody mentioned Ian Kinsler going 6-6 & hitting for the cycle in Texas' 19-6 win over the Orioles.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 15, 2009, 10:03:06 pm
Quote from: AB™ on April 15, 2009, 07:24:01 pm
Smoltz is your fault. No offense, but that was a stupid pick, unless he comes back and gets like 20 holds.
Smoltz is coming back as a SP.
Quote from: QF© on April 15, 2009, 07:38:13 pm
I'm curious what determines what feed we get. The guy at Cox didn't know. It's just random it seems.
I don't get why if you pay for the Extra Innings package you aren't getting both feeds. You should be. This is why I'm glad I have Directv. Can't beat it.
Who is he going to bump from the rotation? He's an upgrade over Wake but I don't know if it's by much. Dice-K is a ticking time bomb with the number of hitters he walks. I just don't see Smoltz being a huge upgrade to the rotation.
Mariners beat the Angels 11-3. Griffey hits his 2nd homer of the year and 400th as a Mariner and Ichiro goes 2-5 in his first game back with a SB and a grand slam.
dc, I think you should credit me with all the M's success. I'm happy to see them winning. I picked the wrong year to dump them, especially with my favorite player of all time going back home.
Brian Wilson just walked in the winning run and the Dodgers beat the Giants. That's got to be about the crappiest way to lose a baseball game. A walk-off walk.
Quote from: RHS on April 16, 2009, 12:15:16 am<br />dc, I think you should credit me with all the M's success. I'm happy to see them winning. I picked the wrong year to dump them, especially with my favorite player of all time going back home.<br />
You can have all the credit. I don't care who gets it right now, as long as we keep winning.
Braves fans, suck it. Go Marlins!
Marlins announcer during a Dan Uggla at bat: "Uggla didn't look lik himself last night with that 42 on his back."
Really? Are you that fing stupid? Hey genius, every single player in baseball wore #42 last night!!! I guess no one looked like themselves.
Marlins announcer after a pop up to center by Hermida, with Cantu on second: "Now if you were watching Cantu on that pop-up you would have seen exactly what a runner was supposed to do in that situation."
Really?!?! It was a routine lazy pop up to center field retard!!!! There's being a homer and then there's having a never ending hard on for every single player on your team for the entire 9 inning game. The latter is what these two guys have for the Marlins.
Cody Ross just hit a 3 run homer. I can't watch any more.
These announcers need a punch in the mouth.
I just emailed Cox customer service and am about to call them to find out why.
They just made a big deal about a double not being a double and they were marking down 'single' no matter what. The cruds.
Marlins are impressive. Braves already looking to DL some more folks. Too early for that.
Quote from: AB™ on April 15, 2009, 11:04:30 pmWho is he going to bump from the rotation? He's an upgrade over Wake but I don't know if it's by much. Dice-K is a ticking time bomb with the number of hitters he walks. I just don't see Smoltz being a huge upgrade to the rotation.
Well for him to bump someone from the rotation, we have to have everyone healthy and I'm not sure that will be the case. If all 5 SP are healthy it'd come down to Wake and Penny, and in that case probably Wake. But the plan is definitely to have Smoltz come back as a SP. That could end up changing if he lacks stamina, but I'm hoping he can give the rotation a shot in the arm when he comes back in June. It's nice to have options of Masterson and Buchholz as well though.
Chris Duncan. That is all.
I can't believe I forgot the Cardinals & Cubs were playing today. A healthy Chris Duncan will help us go a long way this season.
An ode to taxpayer rape is on display today at the new Yankee Stadium.
The Cubs just took a 4-3 lead on a Fukudome home run.
Greene ties it up with a solo blast, 4-4.
Wow, what a way to get out of that jam Adam.
I can't believe the Cubs didn't pinch hit for Heilman, but I'm not complaining. ;D
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on April 16, 2009, 03:25:31 pm
Wow, what a way to get out of that jam Adam.
With an assist to the HP ump for that 3-2 gift on Bradley.
Also, lol @ Yankees bullpen. 9 runs allowed in the 7th. Way to open that new stadium!
Yaddi! 5-4 Cards.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 16, 2009, 03:28:33 pm
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on April 16, 2009, 03:25:31 pm
Wow, what a way to get out of that jam Adam.
With an assist to the HP ump for that 3-2 gift on Bradley.
Also, lol @ Yankees bullpen. 9 runs allowed in the 7th. Way to open that new stadium!
No joke man. It was like Maddux was on the mound or something.
Neal Cotts can go play in traffic.
Thats a winner. Cardinals 7-4.
Sucks that our #5 was lined up against StL ace. Hopefully we will turn it around tomorrow.
Outside of Marmol our bullpen is craptastic.
I'd trade the Braves bullpen for the Cubs in a heartbeat. Our bullpen lost us 1 game in which we had a 10-3 lead in the 7th, and last night allowed the Marlins to blow things open in a 4-4 game.
Quote from: SMC on April 16, 2009, 04:46:24 pm
Sucks that our #5 was lined up against StL ace. Hopefully we will turn it around tomorrow.
Outside of Marmol our bullpen is craptastic.
I think the Yankees pen is worse than yours.
The M's 6 game winning streak is snapped as they lose to the Angels 5-1 tonight.
Walters doesn't look like he's quite ready for the big time just yet. Hopefully the damage in this inning will be minimal. Besides, I wouldn't put much stock in him losing, after all he is our #5 against the Cubs #1. ;)
Actually this is your #2 turn in the rotation. Not the Cubs' fault that Carpenter is made of glass.
:)
Cards got the bases loaded with one out & Pujols coming up in the 3rd.
After a Pujols sac fly, Ludwick jacks a 3 run shot to make it 4-3 Cards!
Quote from: SMC on April 17, 2009, 02:04:52 pm
Actually this is your #2 turn in the rotation. Not the Cubs' fault that Carpenter is made of glass.
:)
I just couldn't resist making the comment after yours yesterday.
I hate Ludwick. I tried to tell everyone he wasn't a fluke last year. That was retarded of Z to put one right over the plate to him. I guess he was relaxed since he somehow got Pujols out.
I blame that loser we play at 1B for falling on his az instead of making the out against Rasmus, or Ludwick would have never batted.
Quote from: SMC on April 17, 2009, 02:27:30 pm
I hate Ludwick. I tried to tell everyone he wasn't a fluke last year.
Might want to tell La Russa that. Why this guy has to sit at all is beyond me. Rasmus, Ankiel, & Duncan should be the ones splitting time.
Cubs had the game tied for about 5 minutes. Barden hits a solo shot 6-5 Cards.
Ludwick hits his second HR of the day, better bench him for three days now Tony.
The home plate umpires from this series can seriously go die in a fire. How is a shoulder high pitch a strike?
I seriously have NEVER had anywhere close to the love/hate relationship I have with Alfonso Soriano with any other player in my lifetime.
This is what happens when all three of the pitchers throwing today were in Memphis when the week started.
Gas Can Gang in the house. :(
Oh heck, Pujols to bat in the 9th.
Quote from: SMC on April 17, 2009, 03:52:49 pm
Oh heck, Pujols to bat in the 9th.
And Marmol walks the man in front of him lol
Wow great start to the inning here. THROW A STRIKE
Quote from: SMC on April 17, 2009, 03:57:58 pm
Wow great start to the inning here. THROW A STRIKE
Seems neither of our bullpens want to win.
YES
Mullet boy into the weak DP
Dang it, Ludwick struck out. Come on Khalil get a freaking hit. Sadly, I feel a double play coming on. (Come on reverse jinx!)
Quote from: jbell96 on April 17, 2009, 04:01:09 pm
Dang it, Ludwick struck out. Come on Khalil get a freaking hit. Sadly, I feel a double play coming on. (Come on reverse jinx!)
FML.
Congrats Cubs, you beat the Memphis Redbirds pitching staff.
Congrats to you guys on knocking around Sean Marshall, Luis Vizcaino, and David Patton yesterday too, cause they are so awesome in their own right :)
BTW how slow is Khalil Greene. He hits a slow grounder to short, the weakest arm SS in the league (Theriot) and the weakest arm 2B in the league (Miles) turn the DP ball on him by about 2 steps.
I'm liking Greene less & less each day. I swear that I made my post about him hitting a double play before I knew it happened. I was keeping up with the game on Yahoo.
It's a shame we didn't hang an "L" on Big Z today. We lit him up like a Christmas tree.
The Twins have had some crazy games this year already. Against Seattle opening week they score 3 runs to win in the bottom of the 9th despite having 2 outs and nobody on base when they started the rally.
Today tops it, at least so far. The Twins were up 2-0 until the 5th inning when the Angels took a 3-2 lead. We gave up 5 runs in the top of the 7th inning. The Angels had a 9-4 lead going into the bottom of the 8th. The Twins score 3 quick runs and have runners on 3rd and 2nd with 1 out. Harris strikes out to make it 2 outs. They intentionally walk Morneau to get to Jason Kubel. With 2 strikes Jason Kubel hits a grand slam to put us up 11-9 going into the 9th inning. A 7 run 8th inning...
Kubel hit for the cycle and had 5 RBIs.
Mariners beat the Tigers tonight 6-3.
Braves losing. Braves hurt. 2 on Fantasy bench scores more that rest of starters all out together.
Ouchy.
Braves down 1-0 already.
I am loving the Braves' losing streak and the Indians' struggling.
Boston down 8-0? No worries, we only won 10-8 last night.
I saw Lowrie might be out for the season with his wrist injury.
Good draft pick by me, that.
Quote from: rsvl_hogfan4 on April 18, 2009, 12:28:22 pm
I am loving the Braves' losing streak and the Indians' struggling.
The Braves are coming back down to earth.
I never thought the Indians were very good to begin with. They have zero rotation outside of Cliff Lee.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 18, 2009, 01:42:23 pm
Quote from: rsvl_hogfan4 on April 18, 2009, 12:28:22 pm
I am loving the Braves' losing streak and the Indians' struggling.
The Braves are coming back down to earth.
I never thought the Indians were very good to begin with. They have zero rotation outside of Cliff Lee.
Yep. Make it 5 straight losses. Losing 9-0 right now haha.
Ludwick does it again, Cardinals 3-0.
Cleveland scores FOURTEEN in the top of 2nd at Yankee Stadium. LOL
Yankees suck...theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Yankees suck!
Quote from: SMC on April 18, 2009, 03:44:56 pm
Cleveland scores FOURTEEN in the top of 2nd at Yankee Stadium. LOL
Yankees suck...theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Yankees suck!
hey $300 million doesn't buy pitching like it used to
;)
Mullet Man hits a solo shot. Jury is still out on you Greene.
Quote from: SMC on April 18, 2009, 03:44:56 pm
Cleveland scores FOURTEEN in the top of 2nd at Yankee Stadium. LOL
Yankees suck...theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Yankees suck!
That is just faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaantastic.
Our SP has been so bad lately. The 3rd inning Dempster was awful, 4 walks. This inning he gives up a HR to freaking Khalil Greene. That's just embarrassing.
Have to hand it to the Cardinals though, their whole lineup is hitting, ours is struggling. Lee, Soto, Theriot all going through slumps.
(http://blog.lib.umn.edu/boley011/architecture/flamethrower.jpg)
Who brought one of those onto the mound in new yankee stadium? lulz.
Don't let Wang near one of these:
(http://bbsnews.net/bbsn_images_2005_summer/oil_platform.jpg)
I'm not ashamed to admit I want to make sweet man love to Carlos Marmol.
He is such a beast.
Marmol has some wicked stuff. If he could just figure out where its going most of the time he would be even better.
Molina with a big double. Bring on Gregg.
His control has not been bad this season. That was the first ER he has allowed all year. Glad Gregg finally had a decent inning.
I can't wait to see what the NY Daily Post headline is tomorrow.
If Pujols DOESN'T hit a game winning HR in the top of 9th, I will be surprised.
(http://www.whiterose.org/pete/blog/images/pujols02.jpg)
Gregg!
I don't hate you anymore (yet).
lol Duncan. Loser.
Oh joy, Khalil Greene is going to have another chance to win the game.
FML.
How awesome that when we needed to pinch hit with the bases loaded our options were:
a. Backup catcher
b. Pinch runner
Please cut Gathright and put a player on the bench that can hit the ball. Thanks.
Oh God, Dennis Reyes.
(http://www.michaelcronan.com/large/images/matches1_lg2.jpg)
ARAMIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well, who didn't see that coming.
(http://images2.sina.com/english/china/2008/1110/U127P200T1D197661F8DT20081111012707.jpg)
I love Aramis Ramirez. I've had him on at least one fantasy team the last 5 years. He's consistently productive and clutch.
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on April 18, 2009, 06:32:42 pm
Well, who didn't see that coming.
(http://images2.sina.com/english/china/2008/1110/U127P200T1D197661F8DT20081111012707.jpg)
WIN!
For anyone who hasn't noticed, the Royals' Zach Greinke has yet to allow a single run in three starts; he is 3-0 with a 0.00 ERA. Tonight, the Royals beat the Rangers 2-0, and Greinke got 10 Ks, 0 BBs, 0 ER, a complete game shutout....and 39 fantasy points for me. BOOSH!
Quote from: SMC on April 18, 2009, 04:02:04 pm
Wang
Wang entered the day with an ERA of around 28.00... And it INCREASED! Hahahahaha.
The only downside of this is that NYY won't be sending him to the mound any next weekend when they come to Fenway.
I loved the point someone mad about him on TS.
His last outing he lasted 1 IP and gave up 8 ER.
This outing he lasted 1 1/3 IP and gave up 8 ER.
Progress!
(http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/deadspin/2009/04/dcsportsbog.jpg)
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on April 18, 2009, 05:28:08 pm
I can't wait to see what the NY Daily Post headline is tomorrow.
(http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/deadspin/2009/04/stinkees.jpg)
Good stuff Tobin.
If Cleveland's lead holds up today, Carl Pavano will get the win! How hilarious would that be?
Cards/Cubs are rained out tonight. Now I have nothing to watch.
Crap. Will the game be rescheduled for tomorrow? I think both teams are off. I really wanted us to take our shots against Wellemeyer.
Not sure, the game preview is still up, but the link to it says "PPD".
The game will be made up as a DH on July 12th. I hate it too as I was planning on watching tonight.
Quote from: jbell96 on April 19, 2009, 02:32:56 pm
If Cleveland's lead holds up today, Carl Pavano will get the win! How hilarious would that be?
In case you didn't know, Jeffrey Maier has made his way to the new YS. Replay is apparently pointless now considering that was 100% fan interference. What's downright sad is that they reviewed it and STILL got it wrong. Pathetic.
Also, Jon Lester was awesome today. 7 IP, 4 H, 0 ER, 9 K's. Going for the 4 game sweep tomorrow morning at 10:00 a.m.
Just saw they will reschedule it as part of a double-header in like July. Ugh
Lester and 24 points on my bench. :(
Lester is on my public league team. Glad he had a good start finally. But the downside to the day was that I have Ubaldo in both leagues and he got torched by the Dodgers.
Quote from: SMC on April 19, 2009, 10:23:01 pm
Lester is on my public league team. Glad he had a good start finally. But the downside to the day was that I have Ubaldo in both leagues and he got torched by the Dodgers.
I have Ubaldo in a few leagues and I've learned to be careful starting that guy on the road. At Coors he's usually money, but on the road he's pretty iffy most of the time.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 19, 2009, 10:57:38 pm
Quote from: SMC on April 19, 2009, 10:23:01 pm
Lester is on my public league team. Glad he had a good start finally. But the downside to the day was that I have Ubaldo in both leagues and he got torched by the Dodgers.
I have Ubaldo in a few leagues and I've learned to be careful starting that guy on the road. At Coors he's usually money, but on the road he's pretty iffy most of the time.
A complete reversal of pitchers and how they do at Coors vs on the road compared to a decade ago.
I love Patriot's Day. I petition we make it an official holiday here in the South.
Anyway, the game started at 10:00 a.m. and the Sox hammered the O's 12-1 to complete the 4 game sweep. Ellsbury with 3 knocks, Pedroia with 4, Papi doubled and hit a stand up triple, Bay and Lowell had some hits, and Tek hit a HR. Masterson looked really good starting and got the W. Great day all around. 5 straight!
Twins are up next for two.
Oh, and the Red Sox bullpen has given up 2 ER in the last 25 innings of work. Suck on that Cardinal fans. Take some notes why don't you?
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 20, 2009, 01:42:44 pm
Oh, and the Red Sox bullpen has given up 2 ER in the last 25 innings of work. Suck on that Cardinal fans. Take some notes why don't you?
Boston - 7-6, 3rd AL East
St. Louis - 8-5, 2nd NL Central
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on April 20, 2009, 01:49:47 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 20, 2009, 01:42:44 pm
Oh, and the Red Sox bullpen has given up 2 ER in the last 25 innings of work. Suck on that Cardinal fans. Take some notes why don't you?
Boston - 7-6, 3rd AL East
St. Louis - 8-5, 2nd NL Central
Word.
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on April 20, 2009, 01:49:47 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 20, 2009, 01:42:44 pm
Oh, and the Red Sox bullpen has given up 2 ER in the last 25 innings of work. Suck on that Cardinal fans. Take some notes why don't you?
Boston - 7-6, 3rd 2nd AL East
St. Louis - 8-5, 2nd NL Central
Fixed that for you Tobin.
Also, AL East > NL Central
Not having the stat tracker on fantasy BLOWS.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on April 20, 2009, 04:46:09 pm
Not having the stat tracker on fantasy BLOWS.
I shelled out the $10 for it. I couldn't have lived without it during football season.
I paid the $10 too.
Fantasy week was a big thud for me. Fell to 5th and got zero points for teh week from McCann. Did pick up Duke who had been hot and that backfired to a degree when he gave up 6 runs to the Braves that had not scored in 3 days. :)
Seriously in need of A-Rod to get into action.
On another note, I've got Cox still working on why I get certain feeds of games instead of all feeds as MSU referred too. So far, I've got the Braves feed twice. Not happy about that.
The way baseballs are flying out of the New Yankee Stadium, A-Rod may come back and still hit 45 homers.
Quote from: AB™ on April 20, 2009, 06:01:36 pm
The way baseballs are flying out of the New Yankee Stadium, A-Rod may come back and still hit 45 homers.
Ryan and I talked about that the other day.
QF, I picked up Duke the other day in my other league and he got shelled, so I dropped him and went a difference route.
I had one good night about 2 nights ago where I got 105 points. Did climb from like 8th to second, so I'm happy for now.
Dear Atlanta Braves batters,
Score some fu****g runs. Quality starts from our pitchers are going to waste.
That is all.
Disgruntled lifelong fan,
AB
They were quoting some architect on First Take today that said the ball doesn't fly out of Yankee Stadium to LF the way it does RF cause the old Yankee Stadium sits behind the LF area. Once it is knocked down (next year, IIRC) they think it will create the same kind of wind effect that goes out to RF with the winds coming off the Harlem River.
If that's true, then A-Rod will be well on his way to being the all time HR leader.
Quote from: jbell96 on April 20, 2009, 01:58:52 pm
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on April 20, 2009, 01:49:47 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 20, 2009, 01:42:44 pm
Oh, and the Red Sox bullpen has given up 2 ER in the last 25 innings of work. Suck on that Cardinal fans. Take some notes why don't you?
Boston - 7-6, 3rd AL East
St. Louis - 8-5, 2nd NL Central
Word.
Yeah um, St. Louis has really run the gauntlet so far with Pittsburg, Houston, and Arizona. Chicago is the only legit team they've faced and they lost 2 of 3. And with that bottom of the barrell bullpen they aren't going anywhere anytime soon. It's a joke.
Also, the "BEST FANS IN BASEBALL" really packed out Busch Stadium again tonight. LOTS of empty seats, kind of like some of the crowds I saw vs the Pirates and Astros. Hmm.
Well tonight the Cards came back to beat the Mets 6-4, and Ryan Franklin held on for his third save of the year. NEXT!
:)
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 21, 2009, 10:23:00 pm
Quote from: jbell96 on April 20, 2009, 01:58:52 pm
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on April 20, 2009, 01:49:47 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 20, 2009, 01:42:44 pm
Oh, and the Red Sox bullpen has given up 2 ER in the last 25 innings of work. Suck on that Cardinal fans. Take some notes why don't you?
Boston - 7-6, 3rd AL East
St. Louis - 8-5, 2nd NL Central
Word.
Yeah um, St. Louis has really run the gauntlet so far with Pittsburg, Houston, and Arizona. Chicago is the only legit team they've faced and they lost 2 of 3. And with that bottom of the barrell bullpen they aren't going anywhere anytime soon. It's a joke.
I would have mentioned the scheduling, but at the time St Louis's opponents had a better record (4% that way) and had faced a team with a winning record, even though they lost the series. At the time of looking, our Sox hadn't so I stayed away.
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on April 21, 2009, 10:30:54 pm
Well tonight the Cards came back to beat the Mets 6-4, and Ryan Franklin held on for his third save of the year. NEXT!
:)
Cardinals left 12 runners on base and still won, somehow.
Cardinal bullpen throws four scoreless innings tonight so I'm guessing they just needed a few days off to recharge. Tomorrow night's game better not get rained out or I'm not going to be a happy camper.
DREWSKI
What a day for JD. 3-3, 1B, 2 2B, BB, 2 R. He's been on fire, as well as the rest of the lineup. 10-1 Sox leading the Twins in a rain delay in the 7th. Youk 2 run homer, NICK GREEN 2 run homer, Lowell 2 run homer.
Game 2 of the DH later tonight. Go Sox.
lol @ CC
6.2 IP, 6 H, 6 ER, 4 BB, 2 Ks
Oh yes. Ohhhh yes.
You have to love what 140 million gives you for 4 starts.
24.3 IP, 25 H, 14 R, 13 ER, 14 BB, 12 K, 1 HR, 4.81 ERA and a 1-1 record.
CC got booed (didn't take long) and it seems from reports there are quit a few empty seats in the brand new stadium.
There were a lot of empty seats but it was a rainy ugly day.
So uh, Jeff, how 'bout that doubleheader sweep today? Baker and Liriano both got shelled.
7 straight Ws my friends. Bring on the MFY. Lets go.
Looks like I need to go read the GT for #2.
Ryan Franklin gets another save.
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on April 22, 2009, 11:27:48 pm
Ryan Franklin gets another save.
He looks like an extra from the Weird Al "Amish Paradise" video.
As long as keeps converting save opportunities I really don't care what Franklin looks like.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 22, 2009, 10:09:16 pm
Liriano got shelled.
Fantasy owner shaking his head. (Sigh)
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 22, 2009, 10:09:16 pm
So uh, Jeff, how 'bout that doubleheader sweep today? Baker and Liriano both got shelled.
7 straight Ws my friends. Bring on the MFY. Lets go.
I will use the excuse that it was at Fenway. When you guys come to HHM it is over.
Quote from: rsvl_hogfan4 on April 23, 2009, 11:17:20 am
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 22, 2009, 10:09:16 pm
So uh, Jeff, how 'bout that doubleheader sweep today? Baker and Liriano both got shelled.
7 straight Ws my friends. Bring on the MFY. Lets go.
I will use the excuse that it was at Fenway. When you guys come to HHM it is over.
Papi could get some triple playing on that carpet.
Matt Stairs just took David Bush yard to break up a no-hitter that Bush had going through 7.1 IP.
Albert with two homers today & the Cards lead 7-3 in the bottom of the sixth. Two of the Mets three runs are off Cardinal errors. Hopefully the bullpen won't pull out the gas can today.
Quote from: jbell96 on April 23, 2009, 02:29:50 pm
Albert with two homers today
Music to my ears. Wish I had gotten him in both leagues though.
How many no hitters into the 7th is that this year? 4 or 5?
Cards blew it open with a four run 6th to take an 11-3 lead. Schumaker & Rasmus had back to back RBI doubles & Ludwick had a two run single.
First time I've ever had Pujols in a fantasy league. This year was also the first time I've ever had the number 1 pick in a league since Pujols has been in the majors. I can honestly say this is the happiest I've been about a pick, ever. I got so sick and tired over the last 5 or 6 years of hearing about the monster numbers Albert was putting up and not having hi on my fantasy team.
Quote from: rsvl_hogfan4 on April 23, 2009, 11:17:20 am
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 22, 2009, 10:09:16 pm
So uh, Jeff, how 'bout that doubleheader sweep today? Baker and Liriano both got shelled.
7 straight Ws my friends. Bring on the MFY. Lets go.
I will use the excuse that it was at Fenway. When you guys come to HHM it is over.
What's odd is that those 2 games are the only time the Twins visit Fenway this year (for your sake). We play a 4 gamer there in May, and that's it for the season series between us.
Well PJ Walters apparently wants to go back to Memphis. He just gave up a 3 run bomb to Beltran to make it 12-8.
Ballgame. Cardinals 12-8.
(http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o46/rob8598/broom_big.jpg)
Wasn't expecting to sweep the Mets, but I will gladly take it. Bring on the Cubs.
A Cardinals win is always sweeter when Kyle Lohse and Carlos Beltran combine to get me 15+ points each.
Quote from: jbell96 on April 23, 2009, 03:15:01 pm
Well PJ Walters apparently wants to go back to Memphis. He just gave up a 3 run bomb to Beltran to make it 12-8.
Thank you PJ Walters.
Daniel Bard update for JB and Ryan:
He's in Pawtucket right now working as the closer and mowing down anything and everything in his path.
ERA 1.00
.037 AVG against
16 K/9
We already have the best 'pen in baseball by a landslide. When Bard gets called up it's only going to get better.
Miller already in the show, Bard doing his thing in AAA. Not bad.
Rob Wooten has a 1.69 ERA for the beloved Brevard County Manatees. Luke Putkonen is at just over 2.00 ERA for the Tigers' A ball team. Andrew Carignan saved 24 games for Midland in AA last year and got promoted to AAA Sacramento in the A's org, before having some elbow troubles to start the year so hasn't pitched yet (he is supposedly valued as a potential closer soon for the big club). I think Robert Woodard is around A or AA for the Padres.
Man UNC had a sick staff.
Looks like Miller is only going to miss 2-3 starts. And I am really enjoying one of the names being thrown around to make the start against Philly.
Is one of the names of any relation?
Quote from: AB™ on April 24, 2009, 05:08:23 pm
Is one of the names of any relation?
Indeed it is sir.
Red Sox vs Yankees. The greatest rivalry in all of sports.
WIN
With Joba's PA on the mound tonight I wouldn't be surprised if there was a brawl. I hate that guy.
Dear Lou Pinella,
Welcome to planet Earth.
Sincerely,
Ryan
1 Theriot
2 Fukudome
3 SORIANO
4 Ramirez
5 LEE
6 Fontenot
7 Soto
8 Johnson
The DNP's are killing me. Especially with McCann. Jeesh.
You know, all I can do is laugh when the Cardinals continually pick up journeymen like Joe Thurston out of someone else's minor league system, put them in the majors and they OPS over 900 and smash 2 run doubles against us. Not to mention some guy named Brian Barden (another minor league castoff) launching 2 or 3 bombs against us.
If I didn't laugh, I'd cry. I think the Cubs have only 6 players OPS'ing over 700 and the Cardinals only have ONE position player who is NOT. They even have 2 fricking pitchers who are doing it.
Braves 4 runs 9 LOB through 7. And this, 2 hits!
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on April 18, 2009, 09:30:24 pm
For anyone who hasn't noticed, the Royals' Zach Greinke has yet to allow a single run in three starts; he is 3-0 with a 0.00 ERA. Tonight, the Royals beat the Rangers 2-0, and Greinke got 10 Ks, 0 BBs, 0 ER, a complete game shutout....and 39 fantasy points for me. BOOSH!
Well, the streak is over; he has allowed one run in 7 innings tonight.
However, he has a 6-1 lead starting the 8th inning, 6 Ks, just 3 hits, 1 BB, and is looking for another complete game win. This game is having a MONSTER year.
EDIT: First out of the 8th - Greinke rung up Brandon Inge, who has been on a tear this week.
EDIT: Second out of the 8th - Josh Anderson, done. Greinke's 8th K of the night.
EDIT: Third out of the 8th - SIT DOWN. Ramón Santiago becomes the third swinging strikeout of the inning.
I doubt there's any way Greinke can keep up this type of work (1 run in 4 starts, are you * me?), but if he can be half as good the rest of the way, he should get the Cy Young.
And Good Lord, the guy looks like he should be in middle school.
(http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v116/72/30/708531602/n708531602_210053_9892.jpg)
Dear Lord, Matt Lindstrom.
Comes in with a 3-0 lead in the 9th against Philly.
9 batters faced. 4 hits. 3 walks. 2 homers. SEVEN earned runs in 2/3 of an inning before he was removed.
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_RZIBrHbpzGk/SE7KLKOEq2I/AAAAAAAAAyM/hdPbQHXDEME/s320/gas_can.med.jpg)
6-1 going into the 9th now for Greinke and company.
His line so far: 8 IP, 1 ER, 9 K, 1 BB, 3 H
Due up for the Tigers: Granderson, Polanco, Ordoñez, top of the order
Come on Greinke, get me another complete game here. 3 outs to go.
Granderson - Greinke's 4th swinging K in a row
Polanco - Ground out
Ordoñez - Ground out
BALLGAME.
9 IP, 1 ER, 10 K, 1 BB, 3 H
For the season: 4 wins, 0 losses. 29 IP, 1 ER, 36 K, 6 BB, 19 H
Also, thanks to the aforementioned Matt Lindstrom for helping Brett Myers avoid the loss.
And, Ryan Franklin is on the mound for his 5th save of the year.
This could be another bully night for my fantasy team.
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on April 24, 2009, 09:40:33 pm
And, Ryan Franklin is on the mound for his 5th save of the year.
BOOSH!
What a night for the Cubs.
Aramis Ramirez leaves game injured.
Carlos Marmol leaves game injured.
Cardinals win on 2 lightly hit rollers that sneak past our SS with no range.
YAY!
WHAT NOW HOES
Down 4-2 bottom 9 with 2 out, Jason Bay launches a 2 run BOMB off Mariano Rivera to tie it up. In the bottom of the 11th Kevin Youkilis hits the walk off shot to win it! Holy crap!!!
Red Sox win 5-4! That was one of the better Sox/Yanks games this decade. Unfreakinbelievable.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 24, 2009, 10:47:57 pm2 run BOMB off Mariano Rivera
Whatever hold he used to have on us was killed in the 2004 season.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 24, 2009, 06:25:00 pm
Red Sox vs Yankees. The greatest rivalry in all of sports.
UNC/dook>>>>Red Sox/Yankees.
That is all.
:D
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on April 24, 2009, 09:29:24 pm
For the season: 4 wins, 0 losses. 29 IP, 1 ER, 36 K, 6 BB, 19 H
I just heard on the radio that the Tigers' run tonight was unearned, meaning Greinke hasn't given up an earned run in something like 50 consecutive innings. That is FILTHY.
Mike Aviles & Miguel Olivio should feel like crap. Aviles for trying to gun out a runner tagging from 2nd to 3rd and having the ball bounce off said runner & Olivio for dropping the perfect throw Grienke made to get the guy at the plate.
Quote from: jbell96 on April 25, 2009, 04:08:44 am
Mike Aviles & Miguel Olivio should feel like crap. Aviles for trying to gun out a runner tagging from 2nd to 3rd and having the ball bounce off said runner & Olivio for dropping the perfect throw Grienke made to get the guy at the plate.
Second.
Grienke then turned around and started a new streak, which is at 4. He made a potential Hall of Famer, Miguel Cabrera look absolutely ridiculous with a slider in the dirt.
Mullet Man! Greene puts one off the wall (that Soriano miss judged) to score a run. And Brian Barden knocks in two more! Cardinals 3-0.
2 in a row for the Braves finally. Some offense to boot.
but McCann to the DL..... yikes.
The Sox were down 6-0 to the Yankees early, but 'Tek just hit a GRAND SLAM to cut it to 6-5.
Edit: ELLSBURY!! HOME RUN!! Tied up 6-6!!
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 25, 2009, 04:59:25 pm
Edit: ELLSBURY!! HOME RUN!! Tied up 6-6!!
BOUT FREAKING TIME.
Ugh. The fact that the freaking Cardinals and Cubs low budget game is being shown on FOX is depressing.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 25, 2009, 05:04:11 pm
Ugh. The fact that the freaking Cardinals and Cubs low budget game is being shown on FOX is depressing.
It's a regional thing, I'm sure. Low budget? Haha how do you mean?
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 25, 2009, 05:04:11 pm
Ugh. The fact that the freaking Cardinals and Cubs low budget game is being shown on FOX is depressing.
Low budget? You're joking right? This isn't KC vs Seattle.
Quote from: SMC on April 25, 2009, 05:10:53 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 25, 2009, 05:04:11 pm
Ugh. The fact that the freaking Cardinals and Cubs low budget game is being shown on FOX is depressing.
Low budget? You're joking right? This isn't KC vs Seattle.
Kind of what I was thinking. It's probably the second or third best MLB rivalry and both teams are in big baseball markets with very passionate fans.
Its def 2nd best, and the only reason the Red Sox and Yankees are "bigger" is becasue of the East Coast hype machine.
Wait, KC and Seattle are in the AL, so obviously much better than these 2, right?
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH!!!!!!!!!
ALBERT WITH A GRAND SLAM!!!!!
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on April 25, 2009, 05:25:02 pm
Its def 2nd best, and the only reason the Red Sox and Yankees are "bigger" is becasue of the East Coast hype machine.
The Dodgers/Giants has really flamed out over the years but it is probably still a top 3 rivalry.
I can't believed they pitched to Pujols with the bases loaded. Instead of walking in 1 run they give up 4 run. Wasn't that almost guaranteed? I'm so glad I have him on MY fantasy team for once.
All I can do is laugh.
Our team got 100X worse this offseason. Our bullpen is trash. Our bench has NOTHING.
Quote from: AB™ on April 25, 2009, 05:31:12 pm
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on April 25, 2009, 05:25:02 pm
Its def 2nd best, and the only reason the Red Sox and Yankees are "bigger" is becasue of the East Coast hype machine.
The Dodgers/Giants has really flamed out over the years but it is probably still a top 3 rivalry.
I can't believed they pitched to Pujols with the bases loaded. Instead of walking in 1 run they give up 4 run. Wasn't that almost guaranteed? I'm so glad I have him on MY fantasy team for once.
He's the best player in baseball. Period.
Cards going with Motte-> Perez, which has the chance to be a nasty combo for years. We'll see how it goes.
Cardinals win 8-2. Time to get the brooms ready for tomorrow!
Quote from: AB™ on April 25, 2009, 05:10:18 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 25, 2009, 05:04:11 pm
Ugh. The fact that the freaking Cardinals and Cubs low budget game is being shown on FOX is depressing.
It's a regional thing, I'm sure. Low budget? Haha how do you mean?
I just made up low budget as an off the wall insult. Dumb, I know. Obviously I realize the Cardinals and Cubs are an awesome rivalry. I was just in a bad mood at the time.
At least a softball game didn't break out at Busch! ;D
Quote from: jbell96 on April 25, 2009, 09:14:23 pm
At least a softball game didn't break out at Busch! ;D
jbell, we all know that an 18-11 score just indicates how great mighty the Red Sox and Yankees lineups are. ;)
Awesome. Derrek Lee leaves the game in the 1st inning today with an injury. Normally, I would not be that upset, cause I hate Lee. But now we have our 3 (Lee), 4 (Ramirez) and 5 (Bradley) hitters all out with "day to day" injuries. Meaning we haven't put any of them on the DL.
As I type this, Soriano hit in the head by Wellemeyer. Seriously, FO, Wellemeyer. We are about to have only a backup catcher on the bench.
This is why I was so upset our game in Wrigley with Wellemeyer starting got rained out. We are knocking him around really good.
Also, the Cardinals are the worst defensive team I've seen so far this year, by far. Greene just made an error which is their 20th of the year (leads MLB). If STL's bats ever go cold, cause they might be the hottest hitting team of the early season, they could be in some real trouble. The fielding is bad, the SP is average, bullpen has had some major issues.
Maybe a little tension brewing after AP got hit. It's interesting to see him mad.
No reason to be mad. Their pitcher threw a fastball off our best player's skull. Suck it up and take one in the middle of the back, don't be a whiner about it.
I believe 'suck it up' is what he did. I didn't catch him whining. Just eyeing......
Quote from: QF© on April 26, 2009, 03:04:32 pm
I believe 'suck it up' is what he did. I didn't catch him whining. Just eyeing......
You have to know you're getting hit in that spot. No eyeing necessary. Just go to first base.
You try it. ;)
We are a better defensive team then what we have shown so far this year, also when we get Carpenter back our starting pitching is WAY above average. I think we will be just fine.
True missing Carpenter is big.
I just think Lohse will come back to earth at some point, and I don't think Wellemeyer is any good. Pineiro so far has been good for a #5.
Wainwright is obviously a real good SP.
Everyone though Loshe would come back to earth last year but he ended up winning 15 games.
I can keep hoping, can't I?
:)
Wellemeyer is garbage. Everyone else in the rotation has pulled their weight except for him. Still, we took 2 of 3 from the Cubs so I am still happy.
Ellsbury just stole home with a left handed batter up. It was absolutely amazing and something you rarely see.
Quote from: Ty on April 26, 2009, 09:00:25 pm
Ellsbury just stole home with a left handed batter up. It was absolutely amazing and something you rarely see.
Agree.
yanks lucky the ball bounced intot he fans or Youk would have scored too.
Quote from: jbell96 on April 26, 2009, 08:59:31 pm
Wellemeyer is garbage. Everyone else in the rotation has pulled their weight except for him. Still, we took 2 of 3 from the Cubs so I am still happy.
Boggs or Walters have a chance to take his spot when Carp comes back.
Quote from: RHS on April 26, 2009, 09:01:46 pm
Quote from: Ty on April 26, 2009, 09:00:25 pm
Ellsbury just stole home with a left handed batter up. It was absolutely amazing and something you rarely see.
Agree.
yanks lucky the ball bounced intot he fans or Youk would have scored too.
I got to see a straight steal of home live when ASU did it to the hogs. It was freakin awesome.
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s206/IH8SIU1/broom_big.jpg)
Quote from: jbell96 on April 26, 2009, 08:59:31 pm
Wellemeyer is garbage. Everyone else in the rotation has pulled their weight except for him. Still, we took 2 of 3 from the Cubs so I am still happy.
We're both happy then cause as banged up as we are, we're lucky to avoid the sweep.
Right now with Marmol, Lee, Ramirez, and Bradley (4 of our 5 best players, arguably) being day-to-day and NONE of them being DL'd, it leaves us with a 21 man roster. That is basically suicidal.
Quote from: jbell96 on April 26, 2009, 08:59:31 pm
Wellemeyer is garbage. Everyone else in the rotation has pulled their weight except for him. Still, we took 2 of 3 from the Cubs so I am still happy.
Carpenter is a middle to high level #1 starter.
Wainwright is a high level #2 starter
Lohse is a high level #3 starter
Wellemeyer is a surviceable #4.
Pineiro is a very solid #5.
The biggest problem is they all have moved up a spot.
Wainwright is a mid level #1
Lohse is a mid to high #2
Wellemeyer might be the worst #3 in the game.
Pineiro is a high #4.
Bring on a rookie type pitcher and get rid of Wellemeyer if he can't get it together.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 25, 2009, 05:04:11 pm
Ugh. The fact that the freaking Cardinals and Cubs low budget game is being shown on FOX is depressing.
And this is the reason why the Yankees and the Red Sox are pretty much the same kinds of teams/fans. Don't worry Josh, we all know that you guys are going to spend more money then the rest of us. Maybe we'll be able to compete with the almighties in New England if we figure out a way to get God on our side. Cuz, he definitely knows that we'll never be able to get the kind of players y'all do since we are just dirt poor organizations over here in the Central. :)
Nice pitchers duel in Atlanta tonight. Cardinals take a 3-1 lead off an Ankiel single in the 7th.
Braves continue to waste good SP.
Come on Braves, score 2 this inning to get Soriano a vulture win and get me some fantasy points.
Quote from: SMC on April 27, 2009, 08:21:32 pm
Come on Braves, score 2 this inning to get Soriano a vulture win and get me some fantasy points.
Close but no cigar.
Thats a winner! Cardinals 3-2 over the Braves.
Marlins failing and the Braves are on the same course as last year with scoring 2 when they only give up 3.
Missing too many opportunities. :-[
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on April 27, 2009, 08:38:38 pm
Quote from: SMC on April 27, 2009, 08:21:32 pm
Come on Braves, score 2 this inning to get Soriano a vulture win and get me some fantasy points.
Close but no cigar.
Ole Mr McClellan made it interesting. I still think if Kotchman had just kept the bat on his shoulder, McClellan would have walked in the tying run.
Ryan Franklin - 6 saves (0 blown), 9 Ks, 2 BBs
Jonathan Papelbon - 4 saves (0 blown), 6 Ks, 5 BBs
Quote from: SMC on April 27, 2009, 09:12:52 pm
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on April 27, 2009, 08:38:38 pm
Quote from: SMC on April 27, 2009, 08:21:32 pm
Come on Braves, score 2 this inning to get Soriano a vulture win and get me some fantasy points.
Close but no cigar.
Ole Mr McClellan made it interesting. I still think if Kotchman had just kept the bat on his shoulder, McClellan would have walked in the tying run.
He couldnt get his curve over for a strike tonight.
Cubs lineup tonight
1 Alfonso Soriano
2 Ryan Theriot
3 Kosuke Fukudome
4 REED JOHNSON
5 Micah Hoffpauir
6 Geovany Soto
7 Mike Fontenot
8 Aaron Miles
9 Ted Lilly
Injured, not playing - Derrek Lee, Aramis Ramirez, Milton Bradley
*cries*
with the W tonight in CLE the Redsox bring the streak up to 11 wins and how bout the ol' knuckleballer going 7IP only 1H and 0 runs :o
I don't think we have ever beaten the Diamondbacks. And when I say ever, I mean ever.
DAN HAREN gives them the lead with a 2 run double. Wow.
Quote from: SMC on April 27, 2009, 09:39:39 pm
Cubs lineup tonight
1 Alfonso Soriano
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f3/Brachiosaurus_Animatronic_model_NHM2.jpg/120px-Brachiosaurus_Animatronic_model_NHM2.jpg)
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on April 27, 2009, 09:16:16 pm
Ryan Franklin - 6 saves (0 blown), 9 Ks, 2 BBs
Jonathan Papelbon - 4 saves (0 blown), 6 Ks, 5 BBs
lol
You tell me who you would like on the mound in the 9th inning.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on April 27, 2009, 10:17:03 pm
Quote from: SMC on April 27, 2009, 09:39:39 pm
Cubs lineup tonight
1 Alfonso Soriano
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f3/Brachiosaurus_Animatronic_model_NHM2.jpg/120px-Brachiosaurus_Animatronic_model_NHM2.jpg)
HAHAHAHA
We have a winner!
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 27, 2009, 10:18:02 pm
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on April 27, 2009, 10:17:03 pm
Quote from: SMC on April 27, 2009, 09:39:39 pm
Cubs lineup tonight
1 Alfonso Soriano
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f3/Brachiosaurus_Animatronic_model_NHM2.jpg/120px-Brachiosaurus_Animatronic_model_NHM2.jpg)
HAHAHAHA
We have a winner!
He was great in Jurassic Park. When he sneezed on that girl I almost died.
*I have been making these jokes to Ryan on FB all night lol*
Quote from: CHSBISON77 on April 27, 2009, 09:45:40 pm
with the W tonight in CLE the Redsox bring the streak up to 11 wins and how bout the ol' knuckleballer going 7IP only 1H and 0 runs :o
Wakefield has been ON in his last 2 starts, so I expect a terrible outing soon.
Quote from: RHS on April 27, 2009, 10:20:19 pm
Quote from: CHSBISON77 on April 27, 2009, 09:45:40 pm
with the W tonight in CLE the Redsox bring the streak up to 11 wins and how bout the ol' knuckleballer going 7IP only 1H and 0 runs :o
Wakefield has been ON in his last 2 starts, so I expect a terrible outing soon.
Don't you mean his last 3? It all started when he took the no hitter to the 8th @ Oakland.
Also, 11 STRAIGHT FOOLS! Get some.
Quote from: MikeDiesel™ on April 27, 2009, 11:13:13 am
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 25, 2009, 05:04:11 pm
Ugh. The fact that the freaking Cardinals and Cubs low budget game is being shown on FOX is depressing.
And this is the reason why the Yankees and the Red Sox are pretty much the same kinds of teams/fans. Don't worry Josh, we all know that you guys are going to spend more money then the rest of us.
FAIL.
New York and Boston aren't even close to being the same team. First of all, the Yankees have $80 M more than we do. Let that sink in for a second. EIGHTY MILLION MORE. Second, we are superior to them in ownership, front office, team, farm system, pretty much everything. We have some money, but the key thing is that we have the people in place in the front office to make the right decisions on who to get and what to spend your money on, something not very many teams have these days. I have to say, it's a great feeling.
Also, without looking it up, could anyone tell me where they think the Red Sox rank in terms of payroll? As in obviously the Yankees are #1, etc.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 27, 2009, 10:53:29 pm
Quote from: MikeDiesel™ on April 27, 2009, 11:13:13 am
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 25, 2009, 05:04:11 pm
Ugh. The fact that the freaking Cardinals and Cubs low budget game is being shown on FOX is depressing.
They're fourth.
And this is the reason why the Yankees and the Red Sox are pretty much the same kinds of teams/fans. Don't worry Josh, we all know that you guys are going to spend more money then the rest of us.
FAIL.
New York and Boston aren't even close to being the same team. First of all, the Yankees have $80 M more than we do. Let that sink in for a second. EIGHTY MILLION MORE. Second, we are superior to them in ownership, front office, team, farm system, pretty much everything. We have some money, but the key thing is that we have the people in place in the front office to make the right decisions on who to get and what to spend your money on, something not very many teams have these days. I have to say, it's a great feeling.
Also, without looking it up, could anyone tell me where they think the Red Sox rank in terms of payroll? As in obviously the Yankees are #1, etc.
4
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 27, 2009, 10:53:29 pm
Quote from: MikeDiesel™ on April 27, 2009, 11:13:13 am
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 25, 2009, 05:04:11 pm
Ugh. The fact that the freaking Cardinals and Cubs low budget game is being shown on FOX is depressing.
And this is the reason why the Yankees and the Red Sox are pretty much the same kinds of teams/fans. Don't worry Josh, we all know that you guys are going to spend more money then the rest of us.
FAIL.
New York and Boston aren't even close to being the same team. First of all, the Yankees have $80 M more than we do. Let that sink in for a second. EIGHTY MILLION MORE. Second, we are superior to them in ownership, front office, team, farm system, pretty much everything. We have some money, but the key thing is that we have the people in place in the front office to make the right decisions on who to get and what to spend your money on, something not very many teams have these days. I have to say, it's a great feeling.
Also, without looking it up, could anyone tell me where they think the Red Sox rank in terms of payroll? As in obviously the Yankees are #1, etc.
Duuude. Chill haha. It's the fans that are the same. And if you don't watch out you're going to become a full fledged annoying Red Sox fan. It's the whole supremist, better than every other fan base and team, type of attitude. You aren't there yet but if you keep up with this whole "AL East rules! everyone else sucks!" and "The Red Sox are hands down the best at everything" way of approaching everything then you will fall into the category that most Yankee fans are already in and one that many Red Sox fans are starting to fall into. They go 86 years without a World Series, win 2 in 5 years, and now they feel entitled to claim themselves as far superior to everyother MLB franchise and fanbase.
Josh, you can claim to have the best team and front office in MLB.
JUST DON'T YOU EVER CLAIM TO HAVE THE BEST FANS!
Quote from: AB™ on April 27, 2009, 11:15:53 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 27, 2009, 10:53:29 pm
Quote from: MikeDiesel™ on April 27, 2009, 11:13:13 am
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 25, 2009, 05:04:11 pm
Ugh. The fact that the freaking Cardinals and Cubs low budget game is being shown on FOX is depressing.
And this is the reason why the Yankees and the Red Sox are pretty much the same kinds of teams/fans. Don't worry Josh, we all know that you guys are going to spend more money then the rest of us.
FAIL.
New York and Boston aren't even close to being the same team. First of all, the Yankees have $80 M more than we do. Let that sink in for a second. EIGHTY MILLION MORE. Second, we are superior to them in ownership, front office, team, farm system, pretty much everything. We have some money, but the key thing is that we have the people in place in the front office to make the right decisions on who to get and what to spend your money on, something not very many teams have these days. I have to say, it's a great feeling.
Also, without looking it up, could anyone tell me where they think the Red Sox rank in terms of payroll? As in obviously the Yankees are #1, etc.
Duuude. Chill haha. It's the fans that are the same. And if you don't watch out you're going to become a full fledged annoying Red Sox fan. It's the whole supremist, better than every other fan base and team, type of attitude. You aren't there yet but if you keep up with this whole "AL East rules! everyone else sucks!" and "The Red Sox are hands down the best at everything" way of approaching everything then you will fall into the category that most Yankee fans are already in and one that many Red Sox fans are starting to fall into. They go 86 years without a World Series, win 2 in 5 years, and now they feel entitled to claim themselves as far superior to everyother MLB franchise and fanbase.
If anyone other than Yankees have a claim, it's the St. Louis Cardinals.
Quote from: AB™ on April 27, 2009, 11:15:53 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 27, 2009, 10:53:29 pm
Quote from: MikeDiesel™ on April 27, 2009, 11:13:13 am
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 25, 2009, 05:04:11 pm
Ugh. The fact that the freaking Cardinals and Cubs low budget game is being shown on FOX is depressing.
And this is the reason why the Yankees and the Red Sox are pretty much the same kinds of teams/fans. Don't worry Josh, we all know that you guys are going to spend more money then the rest of us.
FAIL.
New York and Boston aren't even close to being the same team. First of all, the Yankees have $80 M more than we do. Let that sink in for a second. EIGHTY MILLION MORE. Second, we are superior to them in ownership, front office, team, farm system, pretty much everything. We have some money, but the key thing is that we have the people in place in the front office to make the right decisions on who to get and what to spend your money on, something not very many teams have these days. I have to say, it's a great feeling.
Also, without looking it up, could anyone tell me where they think the Red Sox rank in terms of payroll? As in obviously the Yankees are #1, etc.
Duuude. Chill haha. It's the fans that are the same. And if you don't watch out you're going to become a full fledged annoying Red Sox fan. It's the whole supremist, better than every other fan base and team, type of attitude. You aren't there yet but if you keep up with this whole "AL East rules! everyone else sucks!" and "The Red Sox are hands down the best at everything" way of approaching everything then you will fall into the category that most Yankee fans are already in and one that many Red Sox fans are starting to fall into. They go 86 years without a World Series, win 2 in 5 years, and now they feel entitled to claim themselves as far superior to everyother MLB franchise and fanbase.
Nice post AB, I was thinking along the same lines.
Quote from: AB™ on April 27, 2009, 11:15:53 pmThey go 86 years without a World Series, win 2 in 5 years, and now they feel entitled to claim themselves as far superior to everyother MLB franchise and fanbase.
I don't think we're superior in everything, but I do think we have one of the best front offices in baseball. I know the farm system is well though of too.
Quote from: RHS on April 27, 2009, 11:40:17 pm
Quote from: AB™ on April 27, 2009, 11:15:53 pmThey go 86 years without a World Series, win 2 in 5 years, and now they feel entitled to claim themselves as far superior to everyother MLB franchise and fanbase.
I don't think we're superior in everything, but I do think we have one of the best front offices in baseball. I know the farm system is well though of too.
With Epstein in charge, they do have one of the best front offices in baseball.
But so does Oakland, Atlanta, St. Louis, and Minnesota.
You should put Cleveland up there as well. I've read about the system they've developed called Diamond View (think that's the name) that keeps up with every bit of news related to any player in a major league system, A ball up to the majors, and will sort it out for them.
Quote from: RHS on April 27, 2009, 11:45:20 pm
You should put Cleveland up there as well. I've read about the system they've developed called Diamond View (think that's the name) that keeps up with every bit of news related to any player in a major league system, A ball up to the majors, and will sort it out for them.
That sounds extremely interested. Do you know where you read about it at?
Quote from: RHS on April 27, 2009, 11:40:17 pm
Quote from: AB™ on April 27, 2009, 11:15:53 pmThey go 86 years without a World Series, win 2 in 5 years, and now they feel entitled to claim themselves as far superior to everyother MLB franchise and fanbase.
I don't think we're superior in everything, but I do think we have one of the best front offices in baseball. I know the farm system is well though of too.
I was just giving Josh a heads up before he started a full blown war between him and everyone else haha. He's been doing it the last couple of years saying how much the NL sucks and how the AL East is the best and acting like the Red Sox are the measuring stick for all of ther sports franchises(and they might be to an extent)but it can really wear thin and grind on some nerves after awhile.
Quote from: Ty on April 27, 2009, 11:47:36 pm
Quote from: RHS on April 27, 2009, 11:45:20 pm
You should put Cleveland up there as well. I've read about the system they've developed called Diamond View (think that's the name) that keeps up with every bit of news related to any player in a major league system, A ball up to the majors, and will sort it out for them.
That sounds extremely interested. Do you know where you read about it at?
I think it was in a SI issue. I'll check around to see if it was, and then see if they have it on SI.com anywhere. It was really interesting.
Quote from: Ty on April 27, 2009, 11:42:26 pm
Quote from: RHS on April 27, 2009, 11:40:17 pm
Quote from: AB™ on April 27, 2009, 11:15:53 pmThey go 86 years without a World Series, win 2 in 5 years, and now they feel entitled to claim themselves as far superior to everyother MLB franchise and fanbase.
I don't think we're superior in everything, but I do think we have one of the best front offices in baseball. I know the farm system is well though of too.
With Epstein in charge, they do have one of the best front offices in baseball.
But so does Oakland, Atlanta, St. Louis, and Minnesota.
St Louis? No. Their management has been getting worse and making more dumb decisions every year for a while now.
Quote from: SMC on April 28, 2009, 12:27:57 am
St Louis? No. Their management has been getting worse and making more dumb decisions every year for a while now.
Yeah, I don't really see how St. Louis fits into the best front office discussion for the reasons you stated. I know they're on fire right now, but still.
Despite them always dealing players, the Marlins also do a great job year in year out. Andrew Friedman (Tampa's GM) is another really good one, IMO.
Quote from: SMC on April 28, 2009, 12:27:57 am
Quote from: Ty on April 27, 2009, 11:42:26 pm
Quote from: RHS on April 27, 2009, 11:40:17 pm
Quote from: AB™ on April 27, 2009, 11:15:53 pmThey go 86 years without a World Series, win 2 in 5 years, and now they feel entitled to claim themselves as far superior to everyother MLB franchise and fanbase.
I don't think we're superior in everything, but I do think we have one of the best front offices in baseball. I know the farm system is well though of too.
With Epstein in charge, they do have one of the best front offices in baseball.
But so does Oakland, Atlanta, St. Louis, and Minnesota.
St Louis? No. Their management has been getting worse and making more dumb decisions every year for a while now.
The Cardinals have not had consectutive losing seasons since '56/'57. They have been doing something correct for quite a while. Not to mention a WS in 2006.
Now that Jocketty has left, name a move that Mozeliak has made that has not worked out.
Quote from: SMC on April 27, 2009, 11:24:07 pm
Josh, you can claim to have the best team and front office in MLB.
JUST DON'T YOU EVER CLAIM TO HAVE THE BEST FANS!
Actually, I'm not even claiming that we have the best team. I do like these guys a lot though.
Love our FO though. With Theo in charge, it's definitely among the tops in the majors.
Theo does deserve credit, but he can thank the Yankees for outbidding them for A-Fraud in 2004. That changed the course of history for the Sox.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 27, 2009, 10:53:29 pm
Quote from: MikeDiesel™ on April 27, 2009, 11:13:13 am
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 25, 2009, 05:04:11 pm
Ugh. The fact that the freaking Cardinals and Cubs low budget game is being shown on FOX is depressing.
And this is the reason why the Yankees and the Red Sox are pretty much the same kinds of teams/fans. Don't worry Josh, we all know that you guys are going to spend more money then the rest of us.
FAIL.
New York and Boston aren't even close to being the same team. First of all, the Yankees have $80 M more than we do. Let that sink in for a second. EIGHTY MILLION MORE. Second, we are superior to them in ownership, front office, team, farm system, pretty much everything. We have some money, but the key thing is that we have the people in place in the front office to make the right decisions on who to get and what to spend your money on, something not very many teams have these days. I have to say, it's a great feeling.
Also, without looking it up, could anyone tell me where they think the Red Sox rank in terms of payroll? As in obviously the Yankees are #1, etc.
I was thinking 3rd or 4th.
Here's the list:
New York Yankees $ 201,449,189
New York Mets $ 149,373,987
Chicago Cubs $ 134,809,000
Boston Red Sox $ 121,745,999
Detroit Tigers $ 115,085,145
Los Angeles Angels $ 113,709,000
Philadelphia Phillies $ 113,004,046
Houston Astros $ 102,996,414
Los Angeles Dodgers $100,414,592
Seattle Mariners $ 98,904,166
Atlanta Braves $ 96,726,166
Chicago White Sox $ 96,068,500
San Francisco Giants $ 82,616,450
Cleveland Indians $ 81,579,166
Toronto Blue Jays $ 80,538,300
Milwaukee Brewers $ 80,182,502
St. Louis Cardinals $ 77,605,109
Colorado Rockies $ 75,201,000
Cincinnati Reds $ 73,558,500
Arizona Diamondbacks $73,516,666
Kansas City Royals $ 70,519,333
Texas Rangers $ 68,178,798
Baltimore Orioles $ 67,101,666
Minnesota Twins $ 65,299,266
Tampa Bay Rays $ 63,313,034
Oakland Athletics $ 62,310,000
Washington Nationals $ 60,328,000
Pittsburgh Pirates $ 48,693,000
San Diego Padres $ 43,734,200
Florida Marlins $ 36,834,000
This is from usatoday
http://content.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/salaries/totalpayroll.aspx?year=2009
Quote from: SMC on April 28, 2009, 12:27:57 am
St Louis? No. Their management has been getting worse and making more dumb decisions every year for a while now.
StLouis has been getting better in my opinion. We'll see a lot over the next year or two with all these inhouse players coming up through the new system.
Quote from: MikeDiesel™ on April 28, 2009, 12:18:22 pm
Quote from: SMC on April 28, 2009, 12:27:57 am
St Louis? No. Their management has been getting worse and making more dumb decisions every year for a while now.
St. Louis has been getting better in my opinion. We'll see a lot over the next year or two with all these inhouse players coming up through the new system.
I do like the youth movement we have, but I still think we could have used a big name closer in the offseason.
Quote from: jbell96 on April 28, 2009, 03:27:25 pm
Quote from: MikeDiesel™ on April 28, 2009, 12:18:22 pm
Quote from: SMC on April 28, 2009, 12:27:57 am
St Louis? No. Their management has been getting worse and making more dumb decisions every year for a while now.
St. Louis has been getting better in my opinion. We'll see a lot over the next year or two with all these inhouse players coming up through the new system.
I do like the youth movement we have, but I still think we could have used a big name closer in the offseason.
There's a theory that anyone can close if a manager gives them the ball in the save situation.
I think relievers getting big time contracts is absolutely stupid. Look at how flimsily most relievers are.
Quote from: Ty on April 28, 2009, 03:39:17 pmI think relievers getting big time contracts is absolutely stupid. Look at how flimsily most relievers are.
Is that you Billy?
You don't need a big time closer. Just put the ball in a pitchers hand with a lead of 3 runs or less, and over time, any big league pitcher can become a 'big name closer' because it's not all about the name. It's about getting the chance to close games. I think closer is one of the most overrated positions in all of sports.
Don't believe me? Just ask Billy Beane how he feels about closers.
Kyle McClellan on the mound.
(http://a1toolsales.com/images/gas%20can.jpg)
I have a match. Please spill that gas.
Aaaaaand boom goes the dynamite.
Way to cost me 16 points (Lohse win + Franklin save) you f*cking assclown.
News Flash: The Braves finally scored with their first clutch hit in 2 weeks.
McClellan escaped yesterday just barely. No dice tonight.
You can't walk the bases loaded all the time and expect to get out of it.
Right now our starting pitching is among the 3 or 4 best in baseball, but our offense is among the 3 or 4 worst in all of baseball. That's why we're 10-10 and not something like 14-6 or 15-5.
Boston and Cleveland tied 8-8 in the 8th.
Come on boys. Keep that streak alive.
Welcome back, Cub offense.
I love Micah Hoffpauir. I wish we could trade Lee for an awesome RP and just play Micah at 1B full time.
For the love of God, please DFA Javier Lopez. He has no place on this team. A lefty specialist who can't even get lefties out. That... was. Awful. I can't believe that just happened. Holy freaking crap. I knew we were dead in the water when lopez trotted out for the 9th, I just didn't think it would end like that. Oh well, 11 games straight isn't too bad.
Carlos Zambrano hits a HR. He is now 3/4 with a single, double, and HR.
Leave him in and see if he can rock a triple.
Quote from: SMC on April 28, 2009, 10:47:48 pm
Carlos Zambrano hits a HR. He is now 3/4 with a single, double, and HR.
I haven't heard much about Micah Owings this year, but him and Zambrano are in a league of their own when it comes to good hitting pitchers. Both of them can mash big time.
With as many people as we have injured, Zambrano is probably our best pinch hitters on days he doesn't pitch.
These are all the Hogs I know of that have signed a FA deal.
Jamar Love, Patriots
Jose Valdez, Falcons
Andrew Davie, Jets
Casey Dick, Jets
Marcus Monk, Panthers
Psssssst Kirk, wrong thread. ;)
I'm runnin on 3 hours of sleep.
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on April 25, 2009, 01:56:26 am
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on April 24, 2009, 09:29:24 pm
For the season: 4 wins, 0 losses. 29 IP, 1 ER, 36 K, 6 BB, 19 H
I just heard on the radio that the Tigers' run tonight was unearned, meaning Greinke hasn't given up an earned run in something like 50 consecutive innings. That is FILTHY.
Your weekly "proud Zach Greinke fantasy owner update":
7 IP, 2 ER, 5 H, 8 K, 2 BB. leaves the game with an 11-2 lead, should move to 5-0 on the year. He allowed his first runs of the year tonight, so his ERA now soars up to around 0.50.
Oh by the way, he was pitching against the team with the best record in the AL tonight.
Zach Greinke for Cy Young.
Now you've done it. Put the RD hex on him. 8)
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on April 29, 2009, 10:19:36 pmYour weekly "proud Zach Greinke fantasy owner update"
You don't have him in my league. I've got Greinke in 2 of my 3 leagues. Good times.
Speaking of good times, how bout another Red Sox comeback. Beat the Indians 6-5 in 10.
Jonathan Van Every hit the game winning HR, his first ever major league homer.
Van Every = Van Awesome
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 29, 2009, 10:34:51 pm
Speaking of good times, how bout another Red Sox comeback. Beat the Indians 6-5 in 10.
Jonathan Van Every hit the game winning HR, his first ever major league homer.
Van Every = Van Awesome
How dare you not send me a text.
It's pretty sad when you guys have to brag about come from behind wins over a sub .500 team.
Quote from: jbell96 on April 30, 2009, 09:57:07 am
It's pretty sad when you guys have to brag about come from behind wins over a sub .500 team.
Hey now, yall bragged about a split with the Pirates at home not too long ago.
Got a tough 4 game series @ TB starting tonight. I can't remember the last time we played worth a crap against them. It would be a nice change if we showed up. Split these 4, at least.
I did not brag about beating the Pirates. I was bragging that the Cardinals had a better record, and still do, than the Red Sox.
Quote from: jbell96 on April 30, 2009, 12:38:29 pm
I did not brag about beating the Pirates. I was bragging that the Cardinals had a better record, and still do, than the Red Sox.
Better than any other team in baseball, I believe.
Quote from: jbell96 on April 30, 2009, 09:57:07 am
It's pretty sad when you guys have to brag about come from behind wins over a sub .500 team.
Our last 4 batters weren't spectacular and somehow we still won.
Wow, the D-Rays pwnage of the Red Sux continues. 13-0 on a combined one hitter from Garza & Balfour. Not to mention the golden boy Josh Beckett got shelled. Add to that a Cardinals win & I'm a happy camper.
Becks is starting to worry me. Can we trade him back to Florida for Hanley?
Speaking of Florida, Cubs allowed SIX runs in the 10th to lose 8-2 to them. Wasted a great start by our #5 Sean Marshall. Our bullpen is teh suck. And our hitting has been so spotty. I'm officially worried.
Quote from: jbell96 on April 30, 2009, 10:15:26 pm
Wow, the D-Rays pwnage of the Red Sux continues. 13-0 on a combined one hitter from Garza & Balfour. Not to mention the golden boy Josh Beckett got shelled.
Yeah that was pathetic. I don't understand it. We just cannot beat the Rays.
And Josh Beckett needs to get his crap together. Like, now.
Quote from: SMC on April 30, 2009, 10:52:12 pm
Speaking of Florida, Cubs allowed SIX runs in the 10th to lose 8-2 to them. Wasted a great start by our #5 Sean Marshall. Our bullpen is teh suck. And our hitting has been so spotty. I'm officially worried.
Go Fish.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on May 01, 2009, 03:00:06 am
Quote from: SMC on April 30, 2009, 10:52:12 pm
Speaking of Florida, Cubs allowed SIX runs in the 10th to lose 8-2 to them. Wasted a great start by our #5 Sean Marshall. Our bullpen is teh suck. And our hitting has been so spotty. I'm officially worried.
Go Fish.
I forgot the fish knocked the Cubs off yesterday. I guess the Cubs have been losing so much lately that I didn't notice. ;D
Smoltz getting close (http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090430&content_id=4501714&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb)
Quote from: QF© on May 01, 2009, 02:16:26 pm
Smoltz getting close (http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090430&content_id=4501714&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb)
Word.
What I really like about this Red Sox team is how deep the rotation and bullpen goes. It's just sick.
Beckett, Lester, Dice, Wake, Penny. In reserve: Masterson (starting now), Smoltz, Clay Buchholz, Michael Bowden, etc.
The bullpen speaks for itself.
It is a waste of a bullpen if your starters keep getting lit up like Christmas trees. ;D
And the mighty Pujols hits his 9th homer of the season to put the Cards up 1-0.
Cubs got a nice win today, Ryan Theriot hit a grand slam (will probably be his only HR of the year, but it was nice timing). Marmol struck out the side, Gregg got the save, I'll take it.
Hopefully this will be a turning point to get us out of this funk.
The Twins are 11-11 without Joe Mauer this year. Mauer is finally back. His first at bat of the year he hits a solo homerun. Not a bad way to start the year.
The $45 million bust AKA Mike Hampton returns to the scene of his theivery and is promptly greated by a Francour 1st Inning HR.
Of note was they moved Jeff into the cleanup role for the first time and that homer was the first of the year for the Braves in the cleanup spot.
Hello May!
My fantasy team in my money league is going off in the HR and RBI department.
Pujols: 8/28
Longoria: 6/24
Pena: 9/24
Granderson: 7/15(typical RBI total for a leadoff hitter with power.)
Jermaine Dye: 6/13
Bruce: 5/13
Ethier: 5/22
That's all before Pujols' homer, Pena's homer, and Longoria's slam tonight.
I'm in 3rd place and only behind by 6 points. I can't get any wins and saves, because my closers teams aren't winning many games, and my starters are getting crappy run support.
Sawk getting pwned by the Rays again tonight. Not much has changed since last October. ;D
I hate the fact that the Yankees won tonight, but I did get a laugh out of Brian Fuentes blowing up in the ninth. I guess it's a good thing the Cardinals didn't sign him.
Quote from: jbell96 on May 01, 2009, 09:39:07 pm
I hate the fact that the Yankees won tonight, but I did get a laugh out of Brian Fuentes blowing up in the ninth. I guess it's a good thing the Cardinals didn't sign him.
Ughhhhhh, I hadn't seen that until now.
I'm scared to go look at my fantasy team now.
Quote from: jbell96 on May 01, 2009, 09:16:30 pm
Sawks getting pwned by the Rays again tonight. Not much has changed since last October. ;D
The thing is, Masterson wasn't that bad tonight. He left one hanging to Longoria in the 5th and he promptly deposited over the wall for a grand slam and that really was the ballgame. Pena followed with a shot right after that to make it 6-2 and it stayed that way. We also stranded way too many. It'd be nice to win tomorrow and avoid the sweep because it's a lock that Tampa wins on Sunday with the immortal Brad Penny going up against James Shields.
Quote from: jbell96 on May 01, 2009, 09:39:07 pm
I hate the fact that the Yankees won tonight, but I did get a laugh out of Brian Fuentes blowing up in the ninth. I guess it's a good thing the Cardinals didn't sign him.
That was a horribly pitched ballgame by both teams. The Angels 'pen (which is not much to begin with) just happened to out-suck the Yankees, who have a God-awful 'pen in their own right. Oh well. If the Angels can win just one game this series I would be happy. They've fallen off a cliff from last year.
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on May 01, 2009, 09:42:11 pm
Quote from: jbell96 on May 01, 2009, 09:39:07 pm
I hate the fact that the Yankees won tonight, but I did get a laugh out of Brian Fuentes blowing up in the ninth. I guess it's a good thing the Cardinals didn't sign him.
Ughhhhhh, I hadn't seen that until now.
I'm scared to go look at my fantasy team now.
-9 for a BB, BS and L. Ouch. But right now you still have the 2nd most points for the day.
Quote from: SMC on May 01, 2009, 06:32:44 pm
Ryan Theriot hit a grand slam (will probably be his only HR of the year, but it was nice timing).
Nevermind, he homered again today. Haha.
Ted Lilly with 7 strong innings, hopefully the pen holds on. Nats beat the Cardinals today, finally Joel Pineiro remembered he was Joel Pineiro, and not Jake Peavy.
In the bottom of the 10th it was tied 7-7 between the Twins and the Royals. Kubel doubled to leadoff the inning. He then took 3rd on a wild pitch. We failed to score from 3rd with no outs. The Royals scored 3 in the top of the 11th. Frustrating.
Quote from: rsvl_hogfan4 on May 02, 2009, 10:25:35 pm
In the bottom of the 10th it was tied 7-7 between the Twins and the Royals. Kubel doubled to leadoff the inning. He then took 3rd on a wild pitch. We failed to score from 3rd with no outs. The Royals scored 3 in the top of the 11th. Frustrating.
Twins need to get it together. I took Nathan early in my fantasy draft cause he is one of the top closers. He hasn't had nearly as many chances as he usually gets so far.
Quote from: SMC on May 02, 2009, 11:15:06 pm
Quote from: rsvl_hogfan4 on May 02, 2009, 10:25:35 pm
In the bottom of the 10th it was tied 7-7 between the Twins and the Royals. Kubel doubled to leadoff the inning. He then took 3rd on a wild pitch. We failed to score from 3rd with no outs. The Royals scored 3 in the top of the 11th. Frustrating.
Twins need to get it together. I took Nathan early in my fantasy draft cause he is one of the top closers. He hasn't had nearly as many chances as he usually gets so far.
THIS. I took Nathan with my 4th pick in my money league. My strategy going into the draft was get a big bopper, 30/30 caliber guy, and a top of the line starting pitcher in my first three picks, and then a top 3 closer with my fourth. I got Nathan and I'm not getting saves from him because they Twins are winning games. I'm in a rotisserie league, in 3rd place with 40 points, 1st place has 46. If you're first in a category you get 8 points, if you're in last you get 1 point. I'm in 1st or 2nd in every offensive category, 3rd in strikeouts, 3rd in ERA, and dead last in saves. If I was just 4th or 5th in saves I would be in 1st place. I really hope Nathan gets it going.
Quote from: SMC on May 02, 2009, 02:15:27 pm
Quote from: SMC on May 01, 2009, 06:32:44 pm
Ryan Theriot hit a grand slam (will probably be his only HR of the year, but it was nice timing).
Nevermind, he homered again today. Haha.
Ted Lilly with 7 strong innings, hopefully the pen holds on. Nats beat the Cardinals today, finally Joel Pineiro remembered he was Joel Pineiro, and not Jake Peavy.
Pineiro didn't pitch that bad yesterday. He'd have only given up one run if Duncan hadn't dropped Zimmerman's easy foul pop up.
The Rays should just try and workout a deal where thet play the Red Sox 50 times a season. They're 5-2 against them on the year after taking 3 of 4 against them in this last series. Carl Crawford stole 6 bases.
Twins were up 4-0 in the 7th inning and Scott Baker had a no hitter through 7. KC ends up winning 7-5. Ridiculous.
The Twins middle relief is terrible. They can't even get to Nathan, and that's the biggest reason I'm in 4th in my money league and not 1st or 2nd, because I'm dead last in saves. Nathan, a top 3 or 4 closer in baseball, has 4 saves through the Twins first 25 games. I figured he'd have 7-10 saves at this point.
Quote from: AB™ on May 03, 2009, 05:53:35 pm
The Twins middle relief is terrible. They can't even get to Nathan, and that's the biggest reason I'm in 4th in my money league and not 1st or 2nd, because I'm dead last in saves. Nathan, a top 3 or 4 closer in baseball, has 4 saves through the Twins first 25 games. I figured he'd have 7-10 saves at this point.
I believe Baker gave up 4 of the runs, so he didn't exactly help himself out. You are right, though. We have so many players on the DL it isn't even funny.
Neshek, Bonser, and Crain are all on the DL and come in for relief. They are our top RP, too.
That's three high quality relievers. Having them all on the DL sucks. What's happening to the Twins is similar to what happened to Atlanta last year. I think at one point in June we had ae or 3 pitchers on staff that were on the opening day roster.
Quote from: AB™ on May 03, 2009, 05:16:41 pm
The Rays should just try and workout a deal where thet play the Red Sox 50 times a season. They're 5-2 against them on the year after taking 3 of 4 against them in this last series. Carl Crawford stole 6 bases.
I don't know what it is, but we just cannot beat the Rays. And yeah, we're playing them again next weekend.
2 @ New York starting tomorrow. Will be interesting to see if it's as empty for the Sox as it has been all season. It has literally been barely half full, if that, for every home game.
Mariners beat the A's 8-7 in 15 innings. The M's were down 4-3 in the bottom of the ninth and Kenji Johjima hit a HR to tie it up. The A's got 3 runs in the top of the 13th to go ahead 7-4 and the Mariners got 3 in the bottom of the 13th to tie it up again. Finally, in the bottom of the 15th, Jose Lopez got a bloop single with the bases loaded and the M's won 8-7. Great game.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on May 03, 2009, 09:06:48 pm
Quote from: AB™ on May 03, 2009, 05:16:41 pm
The Rays should just try and workout a deal where thet play the Red Sox 50 times a season. They're 5-2 against them on the year after taking 3 of 4 against them in this last series. Carl Crawford stole 6 bases.
I don't know what it is, but we just cannot beat the Rays. And yeah, we're playing them again next weekend.
2 @ New York starting tomorrow. Will be interesting to see if it's as empty for the Sox as it has been all season. It has literally been barely half full, if that, for every home game.
I'm not surprised at it being half full with how high ticket prices are & how bad the weather has been.
Like I heard a guy say on ESPN radio today; Whether your rich or poor, if you're paying 2600 for a baseball game you're getting ripped off.
Red Sox @ Yankees just underway after a 2 1/2 hour rain delay.
What a start. Scored 1 in the 1st, Lester K's the side, and Lowell just went deep to start the 2nd. Go Sox!
Zambrano* to the DL along with Carpenter* and of course Smoltz* for me. Plus my great pick of CC.
Double ouchy.
Token Zach Greinke watch:
He's gone 6 shutout innings so far, with 8 Ks, 0 BBs, and 3 hits. The Royals have a 6-0 lead over the White Sox.
This guy is inhuman.
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on May 04, 2009, 08:56:50 pm
Token Zach Greinke watch:
He's gone 6 shutout innings so far, with 8 Ks, 3 BBs, and 3 hits. The Royals have a 6-0 lead over the White Sox.
This guy is inhuman.
Tobin, you do know that there is an inning limit in the FF league right? At this rate you will be out of innings before the All Star break. LOL
Haha. I know. I won't be able to check the league daily this summer, so I need to play it while I can.
I'll sit everyone else if it means Greinke gets all his innings in time.
Tonight's game just went final - Complete game shutout. 9 IP, 0 ER, 10 K, 0 BB, 6 H.
Rick Ankiel just knocked himself out making a catch. Took a brutal hit against the wall. Took him out on a backboard and cart.
Scary looking!
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on May 04, 2009, 09:32:47 pm
Haha. I know. I won't be able to check the league daily this summer, so I need to play it while I can.
I'll sit everyone else if it means Greinke gets all his innings in time.
Tonight's game just went final - Complete game shutout. 9 IP, 0 ER, 10 K, 0 BB, 6 H.
That's sick.
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on May 04, 2009, 09:32:47 pm
Haha. I know. I won't be able to check the league daily this summer, so I need to play it while I can.
I'll sit everyone else if it means Greinke gets all his innings in time.
Tonight's game just went final - Complete game shutout. 9 IP, 0 ER, 10 K, 0 BB, 6 H.
Worry about IP limits and player limits later. You never know who is going to miss a start or go on the DL and sabatoge you anyway.
Yanks have the bases loaded with 2 outs in the bottom 9, down 6-4. Papelbon v. Cano.
SIT THE F DOWN CANO
F me.
Kirk, you pass me by 1 fantasy point on the night thanks to Lester's win.
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on May 05, 2009, 12:11:37 am
F me.
Kirk, you pass me by 1 fantasy point on the night thanks to Lester's win.
:D
Sweet, now I'll only be down by like 133 instead of 134.
Pickin Machine - 116.67
Ramblin Man - 116.33
Ugh.
Jason Bay is a badass.
Oh, and Jon Lester and Mike Lowell are pretty sick too.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on May 05, 2009, 12:28:25 am
Jason Bay is a badass.
Oh, and Jon Lester and Mike Lowell are pretty sick too.
2 of the 3 are on my team.
Can we please re-sign Bay now before he continues to tear it up all season long, thus making his value higher?
Quote from: RHS on May 05, 2009, 12:32:57 amCan we please re-sign Bay now before he continues to tear it up all season long, thus making his value higher?
My single biggest fear right now = not re-signing Jason Bay. I'm not sure we will either.
I hope Youk is ok. Please don't let that be serious.
I have the same fears about not re-signing him, but I trust in Theo.
Didn't see what happened to Youk.
I offer you some head to head STATISTICAL ANALYSIS:
Red Sox 5-0
Yankees 0-5
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on May 05, 2009, 11:30:44 pm
I offer you some head
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Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on May 05, 2009, 11:36:13 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on May 05, 2009, 11:30:44 pm
I offer you some head
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THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID!!!
GTH Ozzie Guillen.
He pulled Mark Buehrle after 8 innings of 1-hit shutout ball. That cost me 11 points you idiot.
The Cardinals and Reds start their series tomorrow in Cincinnati. It should be a pretty good series considering how well the Cardinals are offensively and how well the Reds starting pitching has been this year, especially with the three that are set to throw against the Redbirds.
Friday: Joel Piniero (4-1, 3.24) vs. Johnny Cueto (2-1, 1.65)
Saturday: Kyle Lohse (3-1, 3.22) vs. Aaron Harang (2-3, 3.00)
Sunday: Adam Wainwright (3-1, 4.08) vs. Edinson Volquez (4-2, 3.47)
The Reds have to get the bats going to have a chance in this series, though. They have the best ERA in the MLB but are among the worst hitting teams. I see the Cards taking the series 2-1.
That matchup between Wainwright and Volquez is going to be awesome.
Going into the 6th inning tonight, the Indians led the Red Sox 2-1. We then proceeded to score 12 runs... before they got an out. Read that again please. 12 runs!!!! One of the craziest innings I've ever seen.
Also, special thanks to Carl Crawford and Evan Longoria for making this a quality night for me. The Rays and Yankees were tied 6-6 in the 9th when Crawford and Longoria went back to back off Mariano Rivera to give Tampa the go ahead winning runs, 8-6. 5 straight L's for New York.
lulz
Annibal Sanchez goes down!
Mariano has lost whatever mojo he used to have as a closer.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on May 07, 2009, 10:22:19 pm
Annibal Sanchez goes down!
It has been a horrible month for Marlins starters. What is it, something like 20 games in a row without a win from the SP? Maybe a certain AAA pitcher can come up and be the stopper.
Quote from: SMC on May 07, 2009, 10:58:13 pm
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on May 07, 2009, 10:22:19 pm
Annibal Sanchez goes down!
It has been a horrible month for Marlins starters. What is it, something like 20 games in a row without a win from the SP? Maybe a certain AAA pitcher can come up and be the stopper.
Most of that has actually been the bullpens problems. They asked my cousin to move to the pen for May and if he does well they are going to call him up to the pen in June. *crosses fingers*
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on May 07, 2009, 10:12:46 pm
Going into the 6th inning tonight, the Indians led the Red Sox 2-1. We then proceeded to score 12 runs... before they got an out. Read that again please. 12 runs!!!! One of the craziest innings I've ever seen.
12 runs without an out ties the MLB record, set in '53 by the Phillies against the Dodgers.
$)@#heck)%@#$_%@#$_%@#$%) _@#$%@#$^)@#$
Randy Wolf left the game with a 6-1 lead. All the Dodgers bullpen had to do was hold a 5-run lead over three innings against the Nats. THE NATS.
Of course, it's now 6-6 in the 8th inning, and Wolf, and I, get a no-decision. FML.
Looks like you and I will tie at the top again Tobin. I'm sad to heard Wolf won't get a L.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on May 07, 2009, 10:59:25 pm
Quote from: SMC on May 07, 2009, 10:58:13 pm
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on May 07, 2009, 10:22:19 pm
Annibal Sanchez goes down!
It has been a horrible month for Marlins starters. What is it, something like 20 games in a row without a win from the SP? Maybe a certain AAA pitcher can come up and be the stopper.
Most of that has actually been the bullpens problems. They asked my cousin to move to the pen for May and if he does well they are going to call him up to the pen in June. *crosses fingers*
A pitching staff that young, albeit very talented, is going to have it extreme highs and lows this year. You had to expect them to come back down to earth eventually after their amazing start.
OK, I've officially done with the new Yankee Stadium.
JOHNNY DAMON already has 7 homers. Really? Did anyone expect him to hit more than 10 or 12 HR's all season? It's the first week of May!
I am going to draft every NYY left hander next year in fantasy if possible.
Might not be a bad approach Ryan. If when they tear down the old stadium, if it affects the winds like they think it will, just draft every yank hitter.
Also, a month into the season and Arizona fired manager Bob Melvin.
AL HR leaders
1. Carlos Pena, 13
2. Evan Longoria, 10
T3. Curtis Granderson, 9
T3. Ian Kinsler, 9
T5. Jason Bay, 8
T5. Carlos Quentin, 8
T5. Torii Hunter, 8
T5. Aaron Hill, 8
T5. Brandon Inge, 8
T10. Johnny Damon, 7
T10. Nick Swisher, 7
So it's pretty weird to see Aaron Hill and Inge up there. Test them. But the ball is just flying out of Yankee Stadium. Johnny Damon on a pace to hit around 40 HR, just sayin. Does Swisher even play every day?
So the Cardinals went ahead and put Ankiel on the 15 day DL, kinda figured that was coming. But they called up one of my favorite players from the Texas League last season in Shane Robinson. The guy is as tall as me (those of you who don't know that aint very tall) and like 175 but can flat out rake. He hit .352 in 63 games last year before getting called up to Memphis with 17 doubles, 3 triples and 4 home runs. Through 15 games this season in AAA he was hitting .345 with 5 doubles and a triple. I am excited to see him get some time in the show.
Rasmus to be full time CF for a couple weeks?
I was surprised that Ankiel didn't go on DL immediately, when they listed him D2D I was like no way...
Cubs are in the wild card spot BTW. Woo hoo!
Quote from: SMC on May 08, 2009, 02:20:23 pmDoes Swisher even play every day?
When Nady went down Swisher pretty much became a full time player.
Dom DiMaggio has passed away at age 92. One of the all time Red Sox legends. Really sad to hear this.
Tough week for Red Sox Nation as Jerry Remy (Red Sox color guy on NESN) is fighting a serious infection from his lung cancer surgery he had last year. He's on indefinite leave and hasn't broadcasted a game in nearly 2 weeks.
I still think the Dom Dimaggio/Joe Dimmagio story is very compelling. Two brothers, one playing for the Red Sox, the other the Yankees. Poor Dom(who was a 7 time All-Star)never probably got the attention he deserved as a player due to Joe being as big of a celebrity as there was in that era.
If you haven't read Summer of '49 I highly recommend it. Great read and it talks about the Dimmagio brothers and how they came to be in the big leagues and talks a lot about their story.
Quote from: AB™ on May 08, 2009, 06:04:39 pm
I still think the Dom Dimaggio/Joe Dimmagio story is very compelling. Two brothers, one playing for the Red Sox, the other the Yankees. Poor Dom(who was a 7 time All-Star)never probably got the attention he deserved as a player due to Joe being as big of a celebrity as there was in that era.
If you haven't read Summer of '49 I highly recommend it. Great read and it talks about the Dimmagio brothers and how they came to be in the big leagues and talks a lot about their story.
Dom was quite possibly the most underrated player of his entire generation. Great leadoff man, great CF, good baserunner - just an all around baseball player. It didn't help that he played in the shadow of his brother, as well as Ted Williams and Johnny Pesky either.
I have Summer of '49 but haven't gotten around to reading it yet.
I see that the real Joel Pineiro has resurfaced.
So far tonight @ Cincinnati: 2 IP, 7 H, 5 ER
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on May 08, 2009, 07:12:42 pm
Quote from: AB™ on May 08, 2009, 06:04:39 pm
I still think the Dom Dimaggio/Joe Dimmagio story is very compelling. Two brothers, one playing for the Red Sox, the other the Yankees. Poor Dom(who was a 7 time All-Star)never probably got the attention he deserved as a player due to Joe being as big of a celebrity as there was in that era.
If you haven't read Summer of '49 I highly recommend it. Great read and it talks about the Dimmagio brothers and how they came to be in the big leagues and talks a lot about their story.
Dom was quite possibly the most underrated player of his entire generation. Great leadoff man, great CF, good baserunner - just an all around baseball player. It didn't help that he played in the shadow of his brother, as well as Ted Williams and Johnny Pesky either.
I have Summer of '49 but haven't gotten around to reading it yet.
Doerr, the Sox 2B, was their second best player behind Williams.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on May 08, 2009, 07:14:08 pm
I see that the real Joel Pineiro has resurfaced.
So far tonight @ Cincinnati: 2 IP, 7 H, 5 ER
David Weathers ended up giving up 3 runs in the 8th, but Cincy held on to take game 1, 6-4.
Cubs had a nice little stretch going, but Ryan Braun hits a game winning 2R HR in the 8th off Heilmann and Aramis Ramirez leaves the game injured.....AGAIN.
Quote from: AB™ on May 08, 2009, 06:04:39 pmIf you haven't read Summer of '49 I highly recommend it. Great read and it talks about the Dimmagio brothers and how they came to be in the big leagues and talks a lot about their story.
Great book. I also think it talks about how their parents didn't want them to play baseball at first too.
Sox could have had a tandem of Bobby Doerr and Pee Wee Reese in the middle if not for Joe Cronin.
McCann back and looking great. A-Rod now in my lineup and CC with a 36 point effort for me last night. Now I can might can make a move in this FF Fantasy stuff.
Only Zach Greinke could get 18 points in a losing effort. He threw another complete game, I believe his fourth of the year, with 5 Ks, 4 Hs, and 0 BBs...but it was a 1-0 loss to the Angels.
Nice run support, Royals.
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on May 09, 2009, 10:38:46 pm
Only Zach Greinke could get 18 points in a losing effort. He threw another complete game, I believe his fourth of the year, with 5 Ks, 4 Hs, and 0 BBs...but it was a 1-0 loss to the Angels.
Nice run support, Royals.
Hey, they can't help that Joe Saunders was freaking on tonight. :D
The only way you can beat Zach Greinke this year is throw a complete game shutout. The guy is ridiculous.
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on May 09, 2009, 10:38:46 pmNice run support, Royals.
Their crap run support is starting to pi
ss me off. I started Meche last night, Greinke tonight. ONE RUN COMBINED. Thanks, KC.
Shane Robinson just got his first big league hit! He crushed a ground rule double just to the left of center in the 8th vs the Reds today. Way to go Shane!
The Reds just tied the Cardinals in the Bottom of the 9th after a pinch-hit bomb with a full count and 2 outs by Micah Owings. In case you didn't know, Owings is the Reds' #5 pitcher in the rotation. The Cardinals took the lead in the top of the 10th and the Reds are now batting down 8-7.
Neither pitching staff wants to win this game.
I want to kill Jerry Hairston after that at bat. He was thrown 5 balls but bunted one foul, missed a bunt on another, and swung and missed at another.
Now watch the no name Cardinals pitcher induce a game ending DP here.
If Hairston watches those 3 pitches, the game is tied because there is no way Duncan was going to throw anyone out on that deep fly ball. Hopefully Phillips can do something with 2 outs.
Please, Reds player I've never heard of, be a hero.
Cubs staved off a sweep by the Brewers today. As crap as it's seemed like we've been, and as good as STL has been - if the Reds won this game the Cubs would only be 1.5 games back of the Cardinals, which is remarkable to me.
Quote from: SMC on May 10, 2009, 04:33:37 pm
Please, Reds player I've never heard of, be a hero.
If there is anyone to do it, it would be Janish. In his ML debut last season, he hit a game winning RBI double in extras if I remember correctly. Let's hope to see more of the same here.
And Tobin's fantasy luck continues as Franklin blows a save but gets a vulture win. God bless.
Of course, Fransisco Cordero hasn't blown a save all year, but he gives up runs in both non-save situations. Then, we pop out to first with the bases loaded to lose the game. Oh well, I can take 2/3 from the Cards.
Quote from: SMC on May 10, 2009, 04:37:30 pm
And Tobin's fantasy luck continues as Franklin blows a save but gets a vulture win. God bless.
You gotta love it, and no offense Tobin, but there's always one or two guys in a league whose team doesn't look amazing or anything on paper, but everyone stays healthy all year, 2 or 3 pitchers and 3 or 4 hitters just go off, and have career years.
Thank God we didn't get swept. I hate that sand box of a stadium in Cincinnati.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on May 10, 2009, 04:44:25 pm
Thank God we didn't get swept. I hate that sand box of a stadium in Cincinnati.
Playing in a division with that place and the Juicebox is really a pain sometimes.
Daniel Bard watch: He has been called up from Pawtucket and is ready in the 'pen tonight!
More importantly, Javier Lopez was DFA'd. Fantastic news.
I am doing my best to watch the Red Sox vs Rays, Celtics @ Magic, and Bruins vs Hurricanes.
Now this is tricky.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on May 10, 2009, 07:52:31 pmMore importantly, Javier Lopez was DFA'd. Fantastic news.
Best news I've heard all day.
Sox and Rays battling in the 9th.
Rays down 4-3, but have runner son 2nd and 3rd with one out. Upton down 0-2 to Paps.
SIT DOWN BJ!!!
On more Paps.
LOVE THAT DIRTY WATAH!!!!!!
What a game. What a night. Sox win, C's win, B's win. Good times.
Amazing job by Papelbon striking out the side after the man on 3rd with no one out. Huge series win vs Tampa.
Nice, Paps got me some good points in the FF Fantasy league.
The Red Sox are still the Rays b!tches.
Quote from: AB™ on May 10, 2009, 10:48:42 pm
The Red Sox are still the Rays b!tches.
No denying that lately.
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Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on May 10, 2009, 04:44:25 pm
Thank God we didn't get swept. I hate that sand box of a stadium in Cincinnati.
Playing in a division with that place and the Juicebox is really a pain sometimes.
Call me a purist but I cant stand when pop ups and should be double line drives become HR's. I like to think you should earn them.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on May 11, 2009, 12:05:10 am
Quote from: SMC on May 10, 2009, 05:15:10 pm
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on May 10, 2009, 04:44:25 pm
Thank God we didn't get swept. I hate that sand box of a stadium in Cincinnati.
Playing in a division with that place and the Juicebox is really a pain sometimes.
Call me a purist but I cant stand when pop ups and should be double line drives become HR's. I like to think you should earn them.
So you hate the new yankee stadium too? ;D
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on May 11, 2009, 12:05:10 am
Quote from: SMC on May 10, 2009, 05:15:10 pm
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on May 10, 2009, 04:44:25 pm
Thank God we didn't get swept. I hate that sand box of a stadium in Cincinnati.
Playing in a division with that place and the Juicebox is really a pain sometimes.
Call me a purist but I cant stand when pop ups and should be double line drives become HR's. I like to think you should earn them.
I like a middle ground. I don't like the bandboxes in the NL (Cincy, Philly, Houston) but I don't like the massive stadiums (Mets, San Diego, San Francisco) either.
Am I the only one who finds it weird that MLB is the only major sport where the dimensions of every stadium are different?
Quote from: jbell96 on May 11, 2009, 12:55:51 pm
Am I the only one who finds it weird that MLB is the only major sport where the dimensions of every stadium are different?
Even throughout things like Little league requires dimensions to be the same. Not sure why the MLB never made that happen.
Quote from: jbell96 on May 11, 2009, 12:55:51 pm
Am I the only one who finds it weird that MLB is the only major sport where the dimensions of every stadium are different?
Did you know that not all pitches in soccer are the same size?
Arsenal - 105 x 68
Chelsea - 113 x 73
Liverpool - 111 x 74
Newcastle - 110 x 73
Tottenham - 100 x 67
Just a few examples.
Attention: Kirk and JB
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Too bad this is still almost 2 years away, but I will be so excited for it.
I heard about that movie not too long ago. Too bad it's not 'til 2011.
Brad Pitt as Billy Beane. That should be interesting.
Wish it was coming out sooner.
I guess I need to read that book sometime this summer. Anybody got a copy I could borrow?
Quote from: RHS on May 12, 2009, 02:25:41 pm
Wish it was coming out sooner.
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Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on May 12, 2009, 03:12:22 pm
I guess I need to read that book sometime this summer. Anybody got a copy I could borrow?
Quote from: RHS on May 12, 2009, 02:25:41 pm
Wish it was coming out sooner.
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Yeah, I have a copy. I think Kirk has it too.
Sure do.
I challenge anyone to find me a more dominant reliever in MLB than Ramon Ramirez.
Seriously. He is the truth.
Quote from: SMC on May 12, 2009, 11:57:44 am
Attention: Kirk and JB
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Too bad this is still almost 2 years away, but I will be so excited for it.
Demetri Martin as DePodesta? He isn't going to make that a comedic role is he? Martin is one of my favorite stand-ups but I just can't see him portraying Paul in a serious light.
lol, the Braves bullpen sucks so bad.
They blew up last night late in the game and Soriano just gave up a game tying HR to Gary Sheffield in the 8th.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on May 13, 2009, 02:47:20 pm
lol, the Braves bullpen sucks so bad.
They blew up last night late in the game and Soriano just gave up a game tying HR to Gary Sheffield in the 8th.
Awesome, that means I get a blown save.
Soriano had been doing awesome this year. His ERA was like 1.20
My set up guys in the FF league have killed me. Usually reliable guys like Scot Shields & Dan Wheeler have astronomical ERA's this year. I dropped Wheeler the other day & will probably drop Shields tonight when I get home.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on May 13, 2009, 02:47:20 pm
lol, the Braves bullpen sucks so bad.
They blew up last night late in the game and Soriano just gave up a game tying HR to Gary Sheffield in the 8th.
They pulled it out though. 2 of 3 from the Mets in their stadium. I'll take it! We're right there.
For fun I thought I'd post these:
FF Fantasy batters points Leaders(thru Tue)
Pujols 225 Drafted 1st pick (Bosox Hip Wrecker)
Longoria 211 12th (DC24)
Bay 203 42th (Picking Machine)
Markakis 199 58rd (QF)
Adam Jones 189 170th (Bell Dingers)
Kinsler 181 13th (Baum Squad)
V. Martinez 175 104th (Braves)
A. Hill 174 undrafted (Ramblin Man)
Damon 170 144th (Braves)
O. Hudson 169 150th (Bell Dingers)
I've not looked at pitchers completely, but of note of course is
Z. Greinke 207 Points 127th by Ramblin Man
No other pitcher has more than 135 points except for Halliday at 180 by BSHW with the 21st pick.
Bell Dingers and Braves each have 2 of the 10 batters.
Uh oh, the wind is blowing out hardcore in Wrigley tonight with a huge storm in the area. If they get the game in, it could be one of those football scores.
SD has thrown 3 pitches and the Cubs have hit 2 HRs. lol.
Padres also hit a 2 run HR in the top 1st.
The Cardinals are coming back down to earth. It was only a matter of time. I mean, you can't honestly expect to get good production out of guys like Joe Thurston, Brian Barden, JOEL PINEIRO, etc.
It was humorous seeing the immortal Ross Ohlendorf mow them down tonight.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on May 13, 2009, 09:58:05 pm
The Cardinals are coming back down to earth. It was only a matter of time. I mean, you can't honestly expect to get good production out of guys like Joe Thurston, Brian Barden, JOEL PINEIRO, etc.
It was humorous seeing the immortal Ross Ohlendorf mow them down tonight.
You can laugh all you want but we are ravaged with injuries. We have had 11 rookies play this year with 8 of them making their debut. Also over 1/4th of our at bats this year have been taken by rookies. You cant expect rookies to keep hitting like that. That and our starters have to give the pen some relief.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on May 13, 2009, 10:09:14 pmYou cant expect rookies to keep hitting like that.
I know, that's what I was saying. Thurston (though not a rookie) and Barden were hitting at a ridiculous pace early on but no one could really expect that to continue.
It's going to be a tight race in the Central. 4 teams in the mix right now.
I don't think the Brewers and the Reds have what it takes to stay in the race all summer.
DANIEL BARD!!!!
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on May 13, 2009, 10:19:36 pm
I don't think the Brewers and the Reds have what it takes to stay in the race all summer.
Seconded.
It will come down to the Cubs and the Cards, like it should. Whether Carpenter is healthy will be the difference down the stretch.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on May 13, 2009, 10:19:36 pm
I don't think the Brewers and the Reds have what it takes to stay in the race all summer.
If the Reds can keep the bats going, then they definitely have the pitching staff to keep them in it. After April, we were the worst hitting team in baseball, but our pitchers kept us alive and we still had a winning record. Now the bats have come around and the pitchers are still consistent and we are now tied for first, granted that we hold on to our 7 run lead over the Dbacks tonight. Our rotation has the best ERA in the majors and our bullpen is the only one not to blow a save.
This Twins/Detroit game was awesome. The game went back and forth. We blew a big lead, then Detroit blew a big lead. In the 13th inning Detroit took a 1 run lead. We tied it in the bottom of the 13th, and with 2 outs Joe Crede hit a walk off grandslam to win it.
Quote from: Ty on May 13, 2009, 11:24:36 pm
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on May 13, 2009, 10:19:36 pm
I don't think the Brewers and the Reds have what it takes to stay in the race all summer.
Seconded.
It will come down to the Cubs and the Cards, like it should. Whether Carpenter is healthy will be the difference down the stretch.
No, the difference will be the Cubs' bats.
The Cardinals got off to a ridiculous start. Thurston, Barden, Molina, basically everyone was OPSing around 900 or more.
Look at the Cubs numbers. Soto is hitting in the low 100s, ditto Milton Bradley. Derrek Lee is hitting barely over .200, Aramis Ramirez has been injured.
So basically you have the Cardinals lineup tearing it up, the Cubs lineup around the Mendoza line, and the Cubs are 0.5 back.
If all teams remain healthy and hit their career averages or near, the Cubs will win the division. If the Cubs keep getting injured and having guys hit 100 points or more under their career averages, then someone else might win it.
Detroit was beating Minnesota 5-0 going into the 7th inning. Verlander had pitched 6 shutout innings and had 13 strikeouts, just 3 short of the Detroit record at 16. We knocked him out of the game in the 7th scoring 6 runs, though. Twins are now up 6-5 in the 8th. If we can finish this game off, and KC loses tonight, we will be in first place in the AL Central.
Ryan I do feel that whoever comes in 2nd in the Central will win the wild card.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on May 14, 2009, 03:16:10 pm
Ryan I do feel that whoever comes in 2nd in the Central will win the wild card.
Right now I will agree with you but who knows if the Mets or Phillies could go on a run this summer as they both have the talent to do so.
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Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on May 14, 2009, 03:16:10 pm
Ryan I do feel that whoever comes in 2nd in the Central will win the wild card.
Right now I will agree with you but who knows if the Mets or Phillies could go on a run this summer as they both have the talent to do so.
Phillies scare me.
I see them dominating late in the season with their pitching.
Quote from: Ty on May 14, 2009, 04:17:05 pmPhillies scare me.
I see them dominating late in the season with their pitching.
Dominating with their pitching? Outside of Hamels their rotation isn't that good.
They have a loaded offense and good bullpen, but the rotation is questionable.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on May 14, 2009, 04:26:29 pm
Quote from: Ty on May 14, 2009, 04:17:05 pmPhillies scare me.
I see them dominating late in the season with their pitching.
Dominating with their pitching? Outside of Hamels their rotation isn't that good.
They have a loaded offense and good bullpen, but the rotation is questionable.
I don't want to go into a weekend series in late August with Hamels and Moyer on the mound needing a sweep to make the playoffs. You may like that scenario, but I have too much respect for Moyer.
Quote from: Ty on May 14, 2009, 04:31:52 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on May 14, 2009, 04:26:29 pm
Quote from: Ty on May 14, 2009, 04:17:05 pmPhillies scare me.
I see them dominating late in the season with their pitching.
Dominating with their pitching? Outside of Hamels their rotation isn't that good.
They have a loaded offense and good bullpen, but the rotation is questionable.
I don't want to go into a weekend series in late August with Hamels and Moyer on the mound needing a sweep to make the playoffs. You may like that scenario, but I have too much respect for Moyer.
Hamels is one of the game's elite. No doubt about that.
I just don't think throwing out Brett Myers, Jamie Moyer, Joe Blanton, and Chan Ho Park are scaring anyone. A good offensive team will tee off on that junk.
Philly will be in contention because of their offense and 'pen like I stated in my last post, but they will only go as far as their rotation will take them.
Moyer(although he gets shelled sometimes)is extremely underrated as a very good big league pitcher, even at his advanced age. Josh, after you finish 'Moneyball' you'll understand why.
I still think Philly will win the East just cause the other teams aren't any better than them, and the Phillies' offense is the best in the division. The Mets have a good offense but no better pitching than Philly (outside of Santana), and a propensity for choking away playoff berths in the last month.
The Marlins have really slowed down and probably will be a .500 team most of the way. I don't see the Braves being much better than .500 either.
So David Ortiz can go frick himself any time he wishes.
Quote from: SMC on May 14, 2009, 07:45:52 pm
I still think Philly will win the East just cause the other teams aren't any better than them, and the Phillies' offense is the best in the division. The Mets have a good offense but no better pitching than Philly (outside of Santana), and a propensity for choking away playoff berths in the last month.
The Marlins have really slowed down and probably will be a .500 team most of the way. I don't see the Braves being much better than .500 either.
Even with McCann our lineup is one of the worst in baseball. Our starting rotation is very good but our bullpen sucks. We'd have 3-5 more wins if our offense didn't suck so bad.
Troy Glaus is back in July.
The Twins just blew a 4-1 lead. They were even up 4-2 in the 9th. With two outs Melky hit a single that scored 2 runs to give the Yankees a 5-4 win. Joe Nathan surprisingly blew the lead giving up 3 in the 9th.
Flipping Nathan cost me 10 fantasy points in Josh's league. On the flip side, the Rays rallied to keep me from losing 7, so I guess it kind of evens out.
Twins blow yet another game to the Yankees. Yankees have beat us in 3 straight games by walkoff. ARod hit a 2 run homer in the 11th, Melky Cabrera hit a single in the bottom of the 9th in one game, and today Damon hit a 3-2, 2 out pitch out in right field for yet another walkoff homer. We lead going into the 8th in every game in this series. We had a 4-2 lead in the 9th in one of the games. We have no bullpen right now.
There were some amazing plays in this game, though.
Did anyone see that Tampa's manager turned in a lineup card with both Longoria and Zobrist playing 3rd? He wanted Longoria to DH, but since the lineup card didn't have a DH on it, and Zobrist played in the field, Longoria couldn't start and the pitcher had to hit where Longoria was penciled in.
So the Rays pitcher hit 3rd...and hit an RBI double. lol
Quote from: SMC on May 17, 2009, 04:04:45 pm
Did anyone see that Tampa's manager turned in a lineup card with both Longoria and Zobrist playing 3rd? He wanted Longoria to DH, but since the lineup card didn't have a DH on it, and Zobrist played in the field, Longoria couldn't start and the pitcher had to hit where Longoria was penciled in.
So the Rays pitcher hit 3rd...and hit an RBI double. lol
Haha wow.
Joe Mauer made one of the best plays I've ever seen today. Score 2-2 in the 9th, 1 out. Gardner (who is the fastest Yankee) was on second and Francisco Cervilli hit a hard grounder back up the middle. The pitcher knocked it down, and it came back towards home plate. Mauer pounced on it, while Gardner took off full speed towards third and rounded third. Mauer eventually moved about halfway between home and first, and faked a throw to first. Gardner thought home plate would be uncovered after the throw, so he took off for home. Mauer sprints back to home and makes a diving play to tag Gardner out. The athleticism showed by Mauer, a catcher, is absolutely out of this world.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tK8sw0O4zDo
Quote from: Ty on May 17, 2009, 06:31:18 pm
Joe Mauer made one of the best plays I've ever seen today. Score 2-2 in the 9th, 1 out. Gardner (who is the fastest Yankee) was on second and Francisco Cervilli hit a hard grounder back up the middle. The pitcher knocked it down, and it came back towards home plate. Mauer pounced on it, while Gardner took off full speed towards third and rounded third. Mauer eventually moved about halfway between home and first, and faked a throw to first. Gardner thought home plate would be uncovered after the throw, so he took off for home. Mauer sprints back to home and makes a diving play to tag Gardner out. The athleticism showed by Mauer, a catcher, is absolutely out of this world.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tK8sw0O4zDo
That play saved the game, at the time, for the Twins. Like you said, it was amazing. Teixeira had an amazing diving stop and throw home from his knees with the bases loaded and one out to save what would have been a go ahead run. There were a lot of awesome plays in this game.
I would appreciate it some day if the Twins would man up and actually play baseball against the Yankees. They always seem intimidated by them and it never fails that they find ways to lose. Thanks, Minnesota.
It's also extremely weird not watching the Sox every day being in Japan.
Joel Piniero with a 3 hit shutout of the Cubbies tonight. Wonder what Ryan's excuse will be for this loss? ;D
Quote from: jbell96 on May 19, 2009, 09:51:06 pm
Joel Piniero with a 3 hit shutout of the Cubbies tonight. Wonder what Ryan's excuse will be for this loss? ;D
We sucked?
Good job, you guys are only 1 game back of us in the loss column now. Maybe if the middle of our lineup will continue to bat .180 or so you guys can hang in all year.
:)
Ortiz finally hits his first HR of the season tonight.
Braves finding some O.... ;)
Hey MSU, I bet you can get MLB.com game feeds. Have you tried?
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on May 20, 2009, 07:48:47 pm
Ortiz finally hits his first HR of the season tonight.
It's about freaking time.
2 for Varitek, must be the ball. (FTR, I started Jason V tonight)
Interesting stat that the Cardinals have had the most starts by rookies in baseball, but if you listen to their fan base the Cubs have been hurt more than anyone.
Wish I could see the Sox game to watch out offense finally get untracked.
Quote from: SMC on May 20, 2009, 07:39:52 pm
Quote from: jbell96 on May 19, 2009, 09:51:06 pm
Joel Piniero with a 3 hit shutout of the Cubbies tonight. Wonder what Ryan's excuse will be for this loss? ;D
We sucked?
Good job, you guys are only 1 game back of us in the loss column now. Maybe if the middle of our lineup will continue to bat .180 or so you guys can hang in all year.
:)
Or, Joel Pinerio has been pitching extremely well this year. He's walking a batter per 9 innings, a K/BB of 2, and a FIP of 3.42.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on May 20, 2009, 07:58:35 pm
Interesting stat that the Cardinals have had the most starts by rookies in baseball, but if you listen to their fan base the Cubs have been hurt more than anyone.
You've had Glaus out all year, but you have to admit that we were losing games by major players (Ramirez, Lee, Bradley, Zambrano, Soto) before Ankiel and Ludwick got hurt. Now you guys are catching up to us in injury luck.
You forget Carpenter only got two starts in before he went on the DL.
You can't complain about Carpenter going on the DL. That would be like me getting mad when Rich Harden inevitably goes on the DL here in a few weeks.
Carpenter hasn't even pitched a full season since 2006.
I'll take that win though!
Thank you pitching staff.
Quote from: SMC on May 20, 2009, 08:59:27 pm
You can't complain about Carpenter going on the DL. That would be like me getting mad when Rich Harden inevitably goes on the DL here in a few weeks.
Can't complain about him going on the DL. The man has lived on the DL the past two seasons, pitching a total of 21.1 innings. The two prior seasons, he finished 1st and 3rd in Cy Young Voting.
Take Harden away from Chicago for the next two seasons and you wouldn't complain?
Soooo glad to see Carpenter back on the mound!! I'm about to have to start putting praying for his health into my nightly prayers!! Please oh please stay healthy!!
Quote from: Ty on May 20, 2009, 10:46:51 pmCan't complain about him going on the DL. The man has lived on the DL the past two seasons, pitching a total of 21.1 innings.
So why would you really count on him to last an entire season?
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on May 20, 2009, 07:48:47 pm
Ortiz finally hits his first HR of the season tonight.
Yessssssssssssssssssss
Quote from: QF© on May 20, 2009, 07:49:03 pm
Braves finding some O.... ;)
Hey MSU, I bet you can get MLB.com game feeds. Have you tried?
No, but I don't have anywhere near the time even if I could. Waaaay too busy for that. I'm just trying to check in here and there.
Quote from: QF© on May 20, 2009, 07:53:26 pm
2 for Varitek, must be the ball. (FTR, I started Jason V tonight)
Tek is going to hit us some HR's. He's just going to hit .235 in the process.
Quote from: RHS on May 20, 2009, 10:50:04 pm
Quote from: Ty on May 20, 2009, 10:46:51 pmCan't complain about him going on the DL. The man has lived on the DL the past two seasons, pitching a total of 21.1 innings.
So why would you really count on him to last an entire season?
Because his problem this season wasn't with his shoulder.
The Twins are up 20-0 on CWS right now. We had 20 hits. We still have some baseball left, too.
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Just got home from work and I figured I would add mine as well.
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I don't have a broom to add but it's always nice to see us sweep Toronto. Pretendahs.
I'll take a Toronto sweep this weekend. ;D
Quote from: SMC on May 20, 2009, 08:59:27 pm
You can't complain about Carpenter going on the DL. That would be like me getting mad when Rich Harden inevitably goes on the DL here in a few weeks.
Wow, you hit the nail on the head there Ryan. He went on the DL today retroactive to Monday with a back strain.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on May 20, 2009, 07:58:35 pm
Interesting stat that the Cardinals have had the most starts by rookies in baseball, but if you listen to their fan base the Cubs have been hurt more than anyone.
The Cubs been hit hard by injuries, they just haven't used a lot of rookies like the Cardinals have. So far this season, the Cubs have seen injuries to Milton Bradley, Derrek Lee, Carlos Zambrano, Aramis Ramirez, and now Rich Harden. I can't think of a time this year when our whole team has been healthy at one time. Still, I'm not using this as an excuse for our play as of late. I'm still optimistic about making the playoffs.
Cuddyer, for the Twins, hit for the cycle last night. Jason Kubel already did it for the Twins earlier this season. Pretty impressive considering neither of them were likely candidates.
Mauer is absolutely on fire. Joe is batting .429 with 9 HRs and 26 RBIs.He missed about 15 games to start the season or his stats would be even better. Morneau is batting .340 with 12 HRs and 36 RBIs, so he is having a good season so far, too.
Paps can go sit on a sharpened stick for all I care after today.
Quote from: RHS on May 23, 2009, 10:11:58 pm
Paps can go sit on a sharpened stick for all I care after today.
Omar Santos? Not good times.
The AL East race is heating up. New York is on fire, Tampa is playing well again, and Boston and Toronto are right there too. I hate that the Yankees are doing well as of late, but you had to know they were going to get hot, especially with A-Rod back.
I'm itching to watch live baseball again. I actually saw some highlights of our game Friday night vs NYM, but it was mainly just Dice-K stuff. It was funny - they would show a few highlights of other things from the game but almost all of it was Dice, and there would be like 5 instant replays of the same thing. lol
Also saw a bunch of stuff on Kawakami, Ichiro, Johjima, etc. They wouldn't do team highlights - they would flash names of Japanese players on the screen, then show the highlights of those teams. Haha.
49 9 10 1 0 7 13 12 8 0 0 .204
A-Rod's stat line this year going into Sunday. 10-49(.204) with 7 of those hits being HR's.
Quote from: QF© on May 22, 2009, 08:20:34 am
I'll take a Toronto sweep this weekend. ;D
Me too. :D
Looking good. Toronto was the AL East leader? (yawn)
Quote from: QF© on May 24, 2009, 01:51:24 pmA-Rod's stat line this year going into Sunday. 10-49(.204) with 7 of those hits being HR's.
Not bad when you play in a freaking wind tunnel.
And Mauer continues his hot hitting. He hit a solo shot in the first inning. Easily the hottest hitting player in the league right now. He is already 2 for 3 in the game. He is batting .439 with 10 HRs now.
Mauer just got hit int he hand with 2 on. The umpire said it was a foul ball though. Mauer walked down to first and he called him back after the trainers looked at him. Gardenhire came out screaming and yelling in the umpire's face. Mauer took his batting glove off and showed where it hit. Eventually he awarded him 1st base. There were 2 outs and this would have made it a 2-2 count. The Brewers' coach came out yelling and almost got ejected. The very next pitch Morneau hit a grandslam. Twins are now up 6-1. Luckily I have him on my fantasy team, too.
What a game right now.
Yovan Gallardo and Chris Carpenter both have one-hit shutouts through the 8th inning....against each other.
Boston beats Minnesota 6-5 today. There is no doubt in my mind that it wouldn't have happened had we started Mauer. He took 1 at bat in the game in the 9th inning and hit a 2 run shot to continue his hot hitting streak. He has homered in 4 of his last 5 games.
Sucks we lost yesterday, but Carp looked like he did back in 05 & 06, so I'm encouraged by that. I don't think it is a coincidence that since he's returned to the rotation our starting pitchers have been much better.
Quote from: rsvl_hogfan4 on May 25, 2009, 05:02:46 pm
Boston beats Minnesota 6-5 today. There is no doubt in my mind that it wouldn't have happened had we started Mauer. He took 1 at bat in the game in the 9th inning and hit a 2 run shot to continue his hot hitting streak. He has homered in 4 of his last 5 games.
If Paps wasn't turning into Izzy then it wouldn't have even been that close. He can barely get any sort of save without making it interesting.
Well holy cow!
Ortiz is going to bat 6th tonight. Francona came to his senses.
I find it funny that Izzy is now blowing saves for someone else. Share the pain Izzy.
It's too bad virtual Izzy can't take the real one's place. On my MVP 05 game, he is still the Cardinals' closer and still pitching like he did in his prime.
Twins were up 2-1 with a runner on 3rd and 2 outs. Boston walked Mauer, and Morneau hit a 3 run HR to put us up 5-1.
Zach Greinke v. Detroit:
9 IP, 1 ER, 8 Ks, 0 BBs, 3 GIDPs, 6 hits = 43 fantasy points
You sound just like a proud papa.
Cardinals finally break through and beat the Brewers tonight to take back a share of 1st.
Wainwright homered tonight in addition to having the following linescore from the mound.
7IP 5H 1R 2BB 9K
He said he never found his groove. I say he shouldn't find his groove more often! :)
Thank you Brewers for first place.
S*ck it Brew Crew. ;D
Jon Lester @ Toronto today: 6 IP, 3 H, 1 ER, 12 K
Sick.
If he can get back on track, watch out. Him and Dice have been what's killing us.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on May 31, 2009, 04:20:45 pm
Jon Lester @ Toronto today: 6 IP, 3 H, 1 ER, 12 K
Sick.
If he can get back on track, watch out. Him and Dice have been what's killing us.
Let's go from good to bad.
Sean Marshall, home for the Cubs against the Dodgers yesterday: 4.1 IP, 8 H, 7 ER, 2 K
I'm getting tired of seeing him in the rotation. I have little faith in him as a starter. My hope is that when Harden is activated from the DL, Lou either sends him down or to the bullpen and gives Randy Wells his spot.
Quote from: Chris Murphy on June 01, 2009, 04:20:16 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on May 31, 2009, 04:20:45 pm
Jon Lester @ Toronto today: 6 IP, 3 H, 1 ER, 12 K
Sick.
If he can get back on track, watch out. Him and Dice have been what's killing us.
Let's go from good to bad.
Sean Marshall, home for the Cubs against the Dodgers yesterday: 4.1 IP, 8 H, 7 ER, 2 K
I'm getting tired of seeing him in the rotation. I have little faith in him as a starter. My hope is that when Harden is activated from the DL, Lou either sends him down or to the bullpen and gives Randy Wells his spot.
Maybe Lou reads FF.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-01-cubs-bits-chicagojun01,0,3131110.story
Quote from: Ty on June 01, 2009, 06:11:57 pm
Quote from: Chris Murphy on June 01, 2009, 04:20:16 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on May 31, 2009, 04:20:45 pm
Jon Lester @ Toronto today: 6 IP, 3 H, 1 ER, 12 K
Sick.
If he can get back on track, watch out. Him and Dice have been what's killing us.
Let's go from good to bad.
Sean Marshall, home for the Cubs against the Dodgers yesterday: 4.1 IP, 8 H, 7 ER, 2 K
I'm getting tired of seeing him in the rotation. I have little faith in him as a starter. My hope is that when Harden is activated from the DL, Lou either sends him down or to the bullpen and gives Randy Wells his spot.
Maybe Lou reads FF.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-01-cubs-bits-chicagojun01,0,3131110.story
lol
Maybe he does.
With the Sox off tonight I'm going to kick back and watch some of the Cardinals/Reds game, hope the Indians can make a game of it with NYY, and flip around the rest of MLB on Extra Innings.
Quote from: Ty on June 01, 2009, 06:11:57 pm
Quote from: Chris Murphy on June 01, 2009, 04:20:16 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on May 31, 2009, 04:20:45 pm
Jon Lester @ Toronto today: 6 IP, 3 H, 1 ER, 12 K
Sick.
If he can get back on track, watch out. Him and Dice have been what's killing us.
Let's go from good to bad.
Sean Marshall, home for the Cubs against the Dodgers yesterday: 4.1 IP, 8 H, 7 ER, 2 K
I'm getting tired of seeing him in the rotation. I have little faith in him as a starter. My hope is that when Harden is activated from the DL, Lou either sends him down or to the bullpen and gives Randy Wells his spot.
Maybe Lou reads FF.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-01-cubs-bits-chicagojun01,0,3131110.story
I'm glad to read the Cubs are keeping Wells in the rotation. He hasn't gotten a win, but he's had some good stuff in his last two outings:
vs. LAD: 7.0 IP, 8 H, 2 ER, 7 K, 1 BB
@ SD: 7.0 IP, 5 H, 3 ER, 7 K, 1 BB
What is it with Cleveland games when the yankees come to town? We all remember a couple years ago in the playoffs when the Midges flooded the air. Tonight they were invaded by birds.
lol
Some reliever for the Dodgers just threw FIVE WILD PITCHES in 1 1/3 innings.
Carlos Beltran may have swine flu.
FML.
.....and the Oscar goes to Yunel Escobar of the Braves for getting hit ON THE HANDLE OF THE BAT and acting like he had a NDE.
Escobar = Hogs Catcher Brian Walker
Quote from: Jacques Grande on June 02, 2009, 07:38:20 pm
.....and the Oscar goes to Yunel Escobar of the Braves for getting hit ON THE HANDLE OF THE BAT and acting like he had a NDE.
Escobar = Hogs Catcher Brian Walker
At least the ball made contact with something in Escobar's case.
Wow Papelbon, way to give me a near heart attack. 3 straight singles to load the bases then he strikes out the side. Whew.
Our next 4 series, including this one @ Detroit, are all against division leaders. Don't see that often getting them all in a row. @ Detroit, vs Texas, vs NYY, @ Philly. This is going to be a huge stretch.
This Braves and Cubs game is good.
5-5 in the 12th
Yes! Nice bit of hitting that half hitting and Heilman was struggling to find the strike zone. Escobar pushed it to a full count, got his pitch, and knocked a single to left. He then stole second to put himself in scoring position with only one out. Chipper, more of the same, pushed it to a full count, got his pitch, and knocked a single into left, driving in the winning run.
Nice comeback win. Wells took a no-hitter into the 7th for the Cubs and they had a 5-0 lead at that point. I thought we were done. Nice to see some resilience from our guys tonight after having a bad stretch against San Fran and Arizona.
Cardinals back in a tie for first, thank you Marlins. Oh and thank you Braves as well.
Back to back home series against the Cubs and Brewers. I'm hoping for 4/6.
Quote from: AB™ on June 02, 2009, 10:29:52 pm
Back to back home series against the Cubs and Brewers. I'm hoping for 4/6.
So are me & J-Lo. ;D
Quote from: jbell96 on June 02, 2009, 10:35:09 pm
Quote from: AB™ on June 02, 2009, 10:29:52 pm
Back to back home series against the Cubs and Brewers. I'm hoping for 4/6.
So are me & J-Lo. ;D
Don't be surprised to see us drop the next 5 though. Our offense is pretty bad. We get good pitching most games but have a tough time producing runs.
We won't be a playoff team again, until our front office gets their heads out of their butts, and goes out and gets a big bat or two to put in the middle of the lineup.
Congratulations to the Cubs front office on signing Milton Bradley instead of Ibanez.
Randy Johnson goes for win 300 tonight.
Come on Randy.
Much to my surprise, the Braves are not going to keep Glavine. He went through all his rehab and did well just last night.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4228623
Trade details. You have to grasp how bad the Brave OF is!
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4228972
Quote from: QF© on June 03, 2009, 07:03:59 pm
Trade details. You have to grasp how bad the Brave OF is!
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4228972
Thank you for getting him out of the Central. He has killed us for the last couple years.
I like this pickup a lot. McLouth is a good OF and we have a terrible OF. I don't think this is a good long term solution for our hitting woes but it is a very nice temporary fix. McLouth is still fairly young, has 25/25 ability with potential for a 30/30 season, and can be a very nice and integral part of a playoff team. We still need to go out and get a bonafide 35+ HR type star to put in the middle of the lineup though.
The Braves and Pirates play a 4 gamer next week in Atlanta.
Really nice deal for the Braves. McClouth is a good pickup.
Josh Beckett had his 3rd straight dominating start tonight. He had a no hitter through 6 2/3. Beautiful.
Hopefully Becks and Lester are coming around to where we thought they'd be to start the season.
I think they are. It's going to be awesome, especially when Dice-K gets rollin.
Lester was pretty unlucky these first 2 months with BABIP. I sense a huge 2nd half.
I want a mustache ala Jason LaRue. Why do the Astros suck so bad? I have to cheer for the Cards, and other than Molina, I have no real reason...just in need of a winning team...
Guess who got called up from AAA ball today?
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I forgot to start Carpenter in Josh's league.
Pretty good first complete game in almost 3 years. Pujols won 3 to 1 tonight. LOL
9 innings, 3 hits, only 1 ER.... and it still raised his ERA.
When healthy[b/], he's the best pitcher in the game.
Pujols did leave a runner on base. Shame on him.
Quote from: Ty on June 04, 2009, 11:07:03 pmWhen healthy[b/], he's the best pitcher in the game.
I wouldn't go that far.
Quote from: RHS on June 05, 2009, 01:25:04 am
Quote from: Ty on June 04, 2009, 11:07:03 pmWhen healthy[b/], he's the best pitcher in the game.
I wouldn't go that far.
You wouldn't? Name a better pitcher, and then back it up.
Quote from: Ty on June 05, 2009, 10:19:19 am
Quote from: RHS on June 05, 2009, 01:25:04 am
Quote from: Ty on June 04, 2009, 11:07:03 pmWhen healthy[b/], he's the best pitcher in the game.
I wouldn't go that far.
You wouldn't? Name a better pitcher, and then back it up.
Roy Halladay comes to mind.
Roy Halladay, Tim Lincecum has busted onto the scene for those kinds of talks as has Zach Greinke. Josh Beckett when he's on. Roy Oswalt is pretty freaking good. Brandon Webb and Jake Peavy are in the argument.
None of those Kirk, except maybe Halladay. It's Santana and Halladay. They are the two best pitchers in baseball and ahve been consistently pitching at a Cy Young level for a while now.
Don't know how I forgot Santana.
If he's gonna list Carpenter as the best pitcher in MLB, guys like Oswalt, Peavy and Webb all have statistics in the same range as him over the past 5 years.
Yeah, I'd take Halladay #1, Santana #2. Those two are above the rest.
Carpenter is good, no doubt, but he's in there with a handful of guys in that Top 10 range.
I'd got Santan 1a and Halladay 1b.
Quote from: QF© on June 03, 2009, 06:22:07 pm
Much to my surprise, the Braves are not going to keep Glavine.
John Smoltz wasn't too happy with how the Braves handled it:
Quote"I'm using a very soft word in 'disappointed' because that ain't right," he said. "To go that far in your rehab, and then right before the time, to do that? Well, it's not my problem anymore, I just feel bad for a teammate of mine that I had for a long time."
Glavine, 43, was coming off shoulder and elbow surgery, but he had completed his rehab stint and said he was ready to return to the majors. Once he entered the big leagues, he would receive a $1 million roster bonus.
Asked if he thought the move was financially motivated, Smoltz sighed. "Yeah, I know too much, let's just put it that way."
Smoltz has expressed his anger in the past at the regime of general manager Frank Wren, who he felt did not give him a chance to stay in Atlanta. The 42-year-old pitcher is completing his own rehab from shoulder surgery and should pitch for Boston in the next few weeks. Smoltz said this is just the latest in a long line of cold moves by the Atlanta leadership.
"It's just not how you treat people. He didn't have a chance to fail at that level, if that was the issue or the concern. But it's just not how you go about it. But they're in control and they make those decisions -- and they've made a lot of them lately," Smoltz said.
Yeah, as much as I like him I take Smoltz's comments with a grain of salt in this matter. He's gone on his own terms. The Braves operate under a different set of guidelines. The Braves gave Glavine a chance the past 2 years. I was glad they did.
However, his being added to the roster now is not going to make them better. They are basically out of options with Hanson and he's got to come up to the big leagues now. They still are liable to have Hudson back in August.
No room in the inn.
It's a tough business and I'll take the Braves front office, scouts and manager as being able to make the best decision for the team.
What a sorry way to let someone go who has given so much of himself to your ball club.
He got paid. He also left them to go the dreded Mets on his own. It's not the big a deal, he's made millions. You can't just keep someone because it feels good. They helped him rehab and everything else to put him in a position to still pitch somewhere else it he so desires. Provided, he still has it.
The Braves might not be done yet.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4234548
Why get Penny when we haven't seen what Hanson will be able to do yet against big league hitting? I guess putting him or Kawakami in the bullpen wouldn't be a terrible idea.
I think before the break Matt Holliday's name is going to come up as one of the bigger names on the market and I'd love to see us make a play for him. We have one of the top 5 farm systems in the league and plenty of prospects to deal. I'd love to see us land Holliday and put him in RF.
I think they're stockpiling pitchers to get Holliday.
Why get Holliday when you're not even going to re-sign him?
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on June 05, 2009, 04:59:08 pm
Why get Holliday when you're not even going to re-sign him?
I think that'd be a pre-req.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on June 05, 2009, 04:59:08 pm
Why get Holliday when you're not even going to re-sign him?
I don't know about that. We've got money. I think we'll try and make some sort of play for him in the offseason if we don't try and trade for him. Why trade for him if we aren't going to re-sign him? I think if we land him we'll do everything we can to re-sign him.
Quote from: QF© on June 05, 2009, 05:01:12 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on June 05, 2009, 04:59:08 pm
Why get Holliday when you're not even going to re-sign him?
I think that'd be a pre-req.
He's a Boras client. That's not happening. He's going to test the market.
I just mean that they are not going to get him w/o a deal. Boras is certainly a roadblock, but if he comes to ATL it's with at least a 2-yr+ deal.
He'll test the market but we do have some pretty deep pockets.
Quote from: QF© on June 05, 2009, 05:04:06 pm
I just mean that they are not going to get him w/o a deal. Boras is certainly a roadblock, but if he comes to ATL it's with at least a 2-yr+ deal.
Then in that case I don't see him going to Atlanta. I can't see any way Boras or Holliday would agree to a smaller deal like that when he's got a huge one waiting in the wings.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on June 05, 2009, 05:08:52 pm
Quote from: QF© on June 05, 2009, 05:04:06 pm
I just mean that they are not going to get him w/o a deal. Boras is certainly a roadblock, but if he comes to ATL it's with at least a 2-yr+ deal.
Then in that case I don't see him going to Atlanta. I can't see any way Boras or Holliday would agree to a smaller deal like that when he's got a huge one waiting in the wings.
What if Chipper said "please"?
Quote from: AB™ on June 05, 2009, 05:06:06 pm
He'll test the market but we do have some pretty deep pockets.
I know you just signed DLowe, but aside from that the Braves have operated pretty cheap over the last few years. I'm not saying they won't make a play for Holliday this off-season (because they definitely should), but Atlanta certainly wouldn't be the team I'd put money on to get him at gunpoint.
I'm not saying we are the favorites. We have operated pretty cheaply the last several offseasons. I'm just saying we have the money to make a play if we so chose.
There is certainly more activity than in recent times. They seem to be showing a willingness to spend more. They are making moves and doing so early.
Bubble burst for Greinke tonight.
Quote from: RHS on June 05, 2009, 11:59:08 am
Don't know how I forgot Santana.
If he's gonna list Carpenter as the best pitcher in MLB, guys like Oswalt, Peavy and Webb all have statistics in the same range as him over the past 5 years.
Not really.
If you want to go off strictly ERA, Carpenter falls in just behind Santana and well ahead of the other 3 for the past 5 years.
His peripherals are actually better than Johan's.
Like I said, when he is healthy, he's the best pitcher in the league, or at least tied for it.
I'm not just going off of ERA though. Factoring in wins, K/BB and other stats.
Throw in the fact that he's basically missed 2 of the last 5 seasons and I'm not putting him at the top of the list.
FML, we're down 11-3 to the Rockies tonight. The bullpen has allowed 8 friggin runs in 2 innings. Way to go guys.
I have had the game on in the background for an hour now while putting the boys to bed and have a possibly stupid question: Why is Yadi playing 1B? Where's Pujols?
Quote from: bobcat on June 05, 2009, 10:24:27 pm
I have had the game on in the background for an hour now while putting the boys to bed and have a possibly stupid question: Why is Yadi playing 1B? Where's Pujols?
Not entirely sure on that either but my guess would have been just to get Albert out of there...2 less innings he had to play. He homered in the bottom of the 6th and flied out to center in the bottom of the 7th so he still played most of the game Yadi went to 1st in the top of the 8th. I'm sure since it was already 11-3 at that point LaRussa just wanted to get him out and give him a little more rest. The Cards only had 2 off days the entire month of May plus one rain out and those off days were on the 11th and they had one last week and they don't have another one until the 15th of this month I believe. Pujols doesn't do off games...if the Cards are playing and he is healthy he is playing...he's not one of those players that gets subbed for in games just to get a day off (very very very rarely) so my guess would be that Tony just decided to get him out and give him more rest even if it was just a couple of innings. Their schedule is packed full so I guess every little bit of rest counts when you don't come out unless you're hurt. Of course thats all just my .02, not that it's worth much.
Thank you. Yadi is my favorite player so it was cool to see him switch it up.
Stay classy Braves ::)
Pictures of Jess Todd.
http://www.futureredbirds.net/2009/06/06/destruction-world-wait-day/
20+ scoreless inning streak coming into today for the Braves. A Chipper triple drives in one in the first. He goes yard the next time up for a 2-0 lead. Next time up, Braves trail 3-2 with 2 on and 2 out and Larry goes yard one more time.
3-3 2 HR's 5 RBI's 11 TB. Just the 5th inning too.
I swear they just can't function without him.
Of course Braun from MIL just matches him with a second HR himself to tie it 5-5.
lol Cardinals
Swept in a 4 gamer at home by the last place Rockies. That's gotta be embarassing.
Hey GWB, your boys are getting hot! You still around here?
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on June 08, 2009, 08:28:57 pm
lol Cardinals
Swept in a 4 gamer at home by the last place Rockies. That's gotta be embarassing.
Who knew the Rockies were going to turn into the '31 Yankees?
The Cards lineup consists of the best player in the game and minor league players and they are still in 2nd place in the toughest division so far this season
Aww yeah, Red Sox and Yankees at Fenway tonight. Nothing better than this.
The A-Roid chants and other vulgarities will be out in full force. :)
I'm going to Fenway for the game tomorrow.
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on June 09, 2009, 05:32:13 pm
I'm going to Fenway for the game tomorrow.
I was wondering about that. What'd it run you?
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on June 09, 2009, 05:32:13 pm
I'm going to Fenway for the game tomorrow.
So more than just "going to the area" now?
No, I don't plan on buying a ticket unless I somehow find one for less than $50.
I'll just go walk around the area and then watch it at one of the bars at Yawkey Way or something. There's a couple of us going, I think.
Good luck finding one for 50>. I'm sure if anyone can find one, it'll be you.
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on June 09, 2009, 05:54:55 pm
No, I don't plan on buying a ticket unless I somehow find one for less than $50.
I'll just go walk around the area and then watch it at one of the bars at Yawkey Way or something. There's a couple of us going, I think.
If I couldn't get a ticket less than $50 last season for the 2 games I saw vs the Twins, there is NO WAY you're getting a NYY ticket for that. I'll be shocked if you find one for less than $100, regardless of where you're sitting.
And DUDE, go to the Cask N' Flagon. Fantastic bar. It's literally right behind Fenway. Better get there early though, cause it'll be packed.
DAVID ORTIZ 2 run bomb off AJ Burnett! Hahahaha.
And now JD DREWWWWWWWWWWWW with the 2 run double off the monstah!
4-0 Sox bottom 2
Our bleacher seats back in 2004 were only $75 a pop.
This game is solid.
Cards can't even win when Carp pitches. He gets a no decision & the gas can gang gives away another one.
Red Sox win 7-0. A collective 2 hitter from Beckett and the best bullpen in baseball. Great job guys.
Daniel Bard pitched the 9th. On Cano he hit 98, 99, 100, and threw a ridiculous slider to strike him out. And he's the 4th right handed option out of the 'pen behind Papelbon, Ramirez, and Delcarmen. Bard is pretty freakin awesome.
AJ Burnett's line tonight: 2 2/3 IP, 5 H, 5 ER, 5 BB, 1 K. Way to earn that $82M scrub!
6-0 vs NYY this year. Bwahahaha.
Burnett was solid.
Freakin Tobin man. Got himself a $90 ticket for $40 right next to Pesky's Pole. You lucky SOB.
For all of you who want to see some good baseball, turn on ESPN.
Lets go Sox! George Kottaras doubles in Nick Green to make it 2-1 good guys in the 2nd.
Edit: Pedroia doubles to make it 3-1.
The OBP Machine
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Quote from: msubulldogs21 on June 10, 2009, 06:52:32 pm
Freakin Tobin man. Got himself a $90 ticket for $40 right next to Pesky's Pole. You lucky SOB.
For all of you who want to see some good baseball, turn on ESPN.
Lets go Sox! George Kottaras doubles in Nick Green to make it 2-1 good guys in the 2nd.
Edit: Pedroia doubles to make it 3-1.
Heck of a game.
Sat on the fourth row in right field, almost right next to the foul pole where the Yanks hit a home run.
Another day, another beyond frustrating day to be a Braves fan. It was just another too familiar game for us today.
Vazquez: 8.0 IP, 2 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 0 BB, 12 K's, NO DECISION
We only scored 1 freaking run!!!!!!!!!!! Wren better do something in the offseason and get a friggin' bat or two or I'm going to lose it! We've got a World Series caliber pitching staff and a last place caliber lineup.
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on June 10, 2009, 10:44:13 pm
Heck of a game.
Sat on the fourth row in right field, almost right next to the foul pole where the Yanks hit a home run.
That is so awesome dude. Nothing better than a Red Sox and Yankees game.
Did you take part in this chant in the 9th? Hahaha.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KR0dQCKHjng
I was looking for you when Swisher fell into the stands by Pesky's Pole.
Quote from: AB™ on June 11, 2009, 05:30:11 pm
Another day, another beyond frustrating day to be a Braves fan. It was just another too familiar game for us today.
Vazquez: 8.0 IP, 2 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 0 BB, 12 K's, NO DECISION
We only scored 1 freaking run!!!!!!!!!!! Wren better do something in the offseason and get a friggin' bat or two or I'm going to lose it! We've got a World Series caliber pitching staff and a last place caliber lineup.
Yeah, their offense pretty much sucks. This will be the 4th straight year of Atlanta missing the playoffs because they're going nowhere trotting those suck lineups out there every day.
I wonder if they will do anything about it in the off-season or just sit on their hands like they've grown accustomed to doing the last several years.
McClouth(hopefully)will be a nice addition but he is in no way a great long term solution to our offensive woes. A play for someone like Holliday or something would be nice. We've got one of the 3-5 best farm systems in baseball with some very nice young bats but that won't make an imnpact anytime soon. I'm wanting to see Wren and our FO make a couple of offseason moves that will make an immediate impact. It's so frustrating to have Vazquez, Lowe, Jurrjens, and even Kawakami(on occassion)trot out every day and have quality starts go to waste because we can't manage more than a few runs. This season has been more frustrating than any of the previous three because we have a very good starting rotation that a lot of teams in baseball would take in a heartbeat.
Uhhhh ohhhh. Big Papi is getting HOT. He just launched into the Monstah seats off CC!
1-0 Sox
Edit: That A-Rod double will do it. Sabathia is pitching lights out.
3-1 NYY
Quote from: AB™ on June 11, 2009, 06:09:08 pm
McClouth(hopefully)will be a nice addition but he is in no way a great long term solution to our offensive woes. A play for someone like Holliday or something would be nice. We've got one of the 3-5 best farm systems in baseball with some very nice young bats but that won't make an imnpact anytime soon. I'm wanting to see Wren and our FO make a couple of offseason moves that will make an immediate impact. It's so frustrating to have Vazquez, Lowe, Jurrjens, and even Kawakami(on occassion)trot out every day and have quality starts go to waste because we can't manage more than a few runs. This season has been more frustrating than any of the previous three because we have a very good starting rotation that a lot of teams in baseball would take in a heartbeat.
The main reason I thought the McClouth deal was kind of puzzling for Pittsburg was that he's cheap ($2.5M this year) and under contract for the next few years. He's only batting .255 but he's obviously a lot better than that and I'm sure the BA will tend to go up.
I'm not sold on the fact that Atlanta is going to go out and bring in a big time offensive player though. They should be in the mix, but actually signing a big time guy I'm not so sure of. But if they don't that's a serious waste given how reliable the rotation is at this point.
Nice reverse jinx Josh. Sox have scored 3 in the 8th to take a 4-3 lead. Bases loaded with one out & Tek at the plate.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Yankees HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
What an epic comeback are you kiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiding me??? Incredible. Just incredible.
8-0
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on June 11, 2009, 07:12:01 pm
Quote from: AB™ on June 11, 2009, 06:09:08 pm
McClouth(hopefully)will be a nice addition but he is in no way a great long term solution to our offensive woes. A play for someone like Holliday or something would be nice. We've got one of the 3-5 best farm systems in baseball with some very nice young bats but that won't make an imnpact anytime soon. I'm wanting to see Wren and our FO make a couple of offseason moves that will make an immediate impact. It's so frustrating to have Vazquez, Lowe, Jurrjens, and even Kawakami(on occassion)trot out every day and have quality starts go to waste because we can't manage more than a few runs. This season has been more frustrating than any of the previous three because we have a very good starting rotation that a lot of teams in baseball would take in a heartbeat.
The main reason I thought the McClouth deal was kind of puzzling for Pittsburg was that he's cheap ($2.5M this year) and under contract for the next few years. He's only batting .255 but he's obviously a lot better than that and I'm sure the BA will tend to go up.
I'm not sold on the fact that Atlanta is going to go out and bring in a big time offensive player though. They should be in the mix, but actually signing a big time guy I'm not so sure of. But if they don't that's a serious waste given how reliable the rotation is at this point.
I'm not saying we will either but you can't deny that the possibility is there. We have the money and making the McClouth move at least shows some signs that our front office is realizing how anemic our offense is and how terrible our offensive production from outfielders has been this year. Just by reading a couple of Braves blogs and a message board with some pretty good info it's obvious the fans are getting fed up with Wren, and some people that seem to have some sort of inside source, or get inside info., think we'll do our best to make some moves for a big bat. Whether that be by the end of this season or in the offseason. We need to do something to capitalize on this pitching staff we have put together, especially if Tommy Hanson shows some signs this year of being as good as he has been touted to be.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on June 11, 2009, 09:54:55 pm
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Yankees HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
What an epic comeback are you kiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiding me??? Incredible. Just incredible.
8-0
OOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHH JOHNNNNNNNNNNYYYYYYYY!
Speaking of that, did you hear it today? ;D
Quote from: jbell96 on June 12, 2009, 12:20:37 am
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on June 11, 2009, 09:54:55 pm
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Yankees HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
What an epic comeback are you kiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiding me??? Incredible. Just incredible.
8-0
OOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHH JOHNNNNNNNNNNYYYYYYYY!
Speaking of that, did you hear it today? ;D
Actually no, but I downloaded it. I'm saving up several podcasts since I'm driving down to Mississippi on Sunday afternoon. I'll listen to it then.
Joe Girardi is so bad. I hope he manages the Yankees for another 10 years.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on June 12, 2009, 12:29:59 amJoe Girardi is so bad. I hope he manages the Yankees for another 10 years.
^^^^^^^^^^^^ THIS ^^^^^^^^^^^^
lol @ Milton Bradley
He totally lost a ball in the sun today vs the Twins to get some already angry Cub fans on his back, followed by making a catch and thinking it was the 3rd out and tossing the ball into the stands when there were actually 2 outs. Not good times for the Cubs.
Some awesome interleague series starting up tonight:
Red Sox @ Phillies
Mets @ Yankees
Dodgers @ Rangers
I always enjoy interleague play. What about the rest of yall?
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on June 12, 2009, 05:11:23 pm
lol @ Milton Bradley
He totally lost a ball in the sun today vs the Twins to get some already angry Cub fans on his back, followed by making a catch and thinking it was the 3rd out and tossing the ball into the stands when there were actually 2 outs. Not good times for the Cubs.
LULZ
Sox and Phils tied up 2-2 in the 11th.
Mets and Yankees tied up 7-7 in the 8th.
Come on Sox and Mets.
I have never seen that happen in my entire freaking life. You have got to be kidding me Castillo.
Sigh. At least the Sox won in 13 innings.
Hanson had a rough first career start but showed some flashes of how great he could be in the future for us. He went 5.2 innings, K'd 5, gave up 2 earned, and got the win. Braves fans have been highly anticipating Hanson for awhile now. Behind probably only David Price, he was the best pitching prospect in baseball, so it's good to finally get him up from AAA.
Josh, that pitch by Bard for the final out was NASTY.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on June 12, 2009, 05:11:23 pm
lol @ Milton Bradley
He totally lost a ball in the sun today vs the Twins to get some already angry Cub fans on his back, followed by making a catch and thinking it was the 3rd out and tossing the ball into the stands when there were actually 2 outs. Not good times for the Cubs.
Hahaha
Go Twins!
If you aren't already, you might want to keep an eye on the Indians/Cards game on ESPN. Cliff Lee is pitching a gem through 6.
The Indians/Cards game lasted only 1 hour & 58 minutes. It was over almost an hour before the Texas/USM game and it started an hour earlier.
The freakin Nats went into Yankee Stadium and beat New York 3-2 last night. I cannot believe no one posted about that. Washington looking to take the series today. I know it won't happen, but oh man if it did...
Josh, you do know that most of us were watching the CWS last night right? ;D
Quote from: jbell96 on June 18, 2009, 01:15:44 pm
Josh, you do know that most of us were watching the CWS last night right? ;D
Since Saturday I have forgotten that the MLB was still going on.
Me too. I check box scores, but that is about it.
Nats take 2 of 3 in yankee stadium.
lulz
[quote author=RHS link=topic=89258.msg1983135#msg1983135
joke of a new stadium where breaking wind will make a ball fly out $1Billion
aging payroll full of 'roided up chokers $300 million
watching the Yankee$ lose TWICE
to the worst team in baseball- PRICELESS
Quote from: Indiana Jones on June 18, 2009, 10:05:34 pmwatching the Yankee$ lose to the worst team in baseball- PRICELESS
No no no. I think what you meant to say was, watching the Yankees lose to the worst team in baseball. In their own ballpark. TWICE!
A-Roid is 3 for his last 34
rotflmao!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on June 18, 2009, 10:16:22 pm
Quote from: Indiana Jones on June 18, 2009, 10:05:34 pmwatching the Yankee$ lose to the worst team in baseball- PRICELESS
No no no. I think what you meant to say was, watching the Yankees lose to the worst team in baseball. In their own ballpark. TWICE!
See, even the worst team in the NL can go into one of the top teams in the AL and take 2 of 3. What does that say for the strength of the almighty AL East right there!? :)
Seriously. I can't take it any more Dice-K. I JUST CANT.
Starting the game vs Atlanta, a putrid offensive team: HR (first pitch), hit, hit, walk, walk. Somehow he got out of it only giving up 2 runs, but we have got to do something. And soon. Holy freakin crap.
Wow! I just saw Ludwick go yard for a Grand Slam and then just now Ankiel go yard...awesome. 7-1 cards top 3rd
Wow C.Greene just went yard 8-1 royals fans just booed pitcher off
Josh, Dice K is trash.
I'm hopeful Dice K will throw again before the Braves leave town. He didn't come close to getting tired.
Quote from: QF© on June 19, 2009, 10:14:43 pm
I'm hopeful Dice K will throw again before the Braves leave town. He didn't come close to getting tired.
I'm hoping we see him go on the DL with one of those fake injuries a la Dontrelle Willis or Chien Ming Wang. I don't see how we can keep trotting him out there knowing he's going to blow up. Not good times.
That was the worst game we've had all year. 2 hits, both by Jason Bay. We need to come back and win the next 2. This is a series we should have.
I jus think the Yakuza got to dice-K...
and yes from the stats nobody showed up and it looked like papi was starting a HUGE turnaround...hopefully they pick it up tomorrow with Beckett
The stl has a new fan I had a blast!
Quote from: RD™ on June 19, 2009, 10:54:34 pm
The stl has a new fan I had a blast!
Bandwagoner.
D-Lowe! It's hard for me to wrap my head around the fact that he's on the mound facing the Red Sox tonight. He was always one of my favorites and of course a member of the '04 team. Deservingly got a standing O.
With that said, here's to hoping we see the Derek Lowe face tonight.
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Quote from: QF© on June 20, 2009, 09:05:14 am
Quote from: RD™ on June 19, 2009, 10:54:34 pm
The stl has a new fan I had a blast!
Bandwagoner.
Nope. I had the opportunity to see Albert Pujols up close and personal, the guy is awesome and even more so he is a role model, he took time to sign auotographs for kids and adults of all ages. Very cool, also I hung out with STL fans before the game, I've never had so much free beer. Especially the ones that were LSU fans, I spotted them and told them good luck in CWS against Uterus, they in turn said have free beer.
Good times, Kauffman Stadium is awesome, I am going through the pictures right now.
Only La Russa would take out Carpenter in the 8th after he gives up a harmless 2 out double, just the 3rd hit all game, just to get a lefty-lefty matchup.
Quote from: jbell96 on June 20, 2009, 06:37:30 pm
Only La Russa would take out Carpenter in the 8th after he gives up a harmless 2 out double, just the 3rd hit all game, just to get a lefty-lefty matchup.
yeah. ;( That's at least the 3d time I think that cost me a CG in fantasy.
Quote from: RD™ on June 20, 2009, 06:26:42 pm
Quote from: QF© on June 20, 2009, 09:05:14 am
Quote from: RD™ on June 19, 2009, 10:54:34 pm
The stl has a new fan I had a blast!
Bandwagoner.
Nope. I had the opportunity to see Albert Pujols up close and personal, the guy is awesome and even more so he is a role model, he took time to sign auotographs for kids and adults of all ages. Very cool, also I hung out with STL fans before the game, I've never had so much free beer. Especially the ones that were LSU fans, I spotted them and told them good luck in CWS against Uterus, they in turn said have free beer.
Good times, Kauffman Stadium is awesome, I am going through the pictures right now.
Okay, I stand corrected. You just migrate to the free beer. ;)
AP is awesome, no doubt. Even though he's really 32.
Royals now have the bases loaded with 2 outs, Carpenter got them both, so I will likely kill TLR if the pen blows this.
Good pitchers duel in Boston.
Beckett and Lowe are dealing. 0-0 in the 4th.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on June 20, 2009, 07:03:34 pm
Good pitchers duel in Boston.
Beckett and Lowe are dealing. 0-0 in the 4th.
Enjoying it thus far myself.
Josh Beckett is just absurd. CG shutout, 5 H, 7 K. And did it in less than 100 pitches.
Beckett and Lester have been ridiculous over the last month. Such a good 1-2 punch.
Good game and yet a bummer.
It was good to see D-Lowe again. I'm glad he got the standing O he deserved after leaving the game.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on June 19, 2009, 10:38:13 pm
I'm hoping we see him go on the DL with one of those fake injuries a la Dontrelle Willis or Chien Ming Wang. I don't see how we can keep trotting him out there knowing he's going to blow up. Not good times.
You have your wish for now:
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4274806
I guess "weakness" is the PC term for major suckage.
Quote from: QF© on June 21, 2009, 10:18:53 am
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on June 19, 2009, 10:38:13 pm
I'm hoping we see him go on the DL with one of those fake injuries a la Dontrelle Willis or Chien Ming Wang. I don't see how we can keep trotting him out there knowing he's going to blow up. Not good times.
You have your wish for now:
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4274806
I guess "weakness" is the PC term for major suckage.
He has officially been placed on the DL for now.
I guess it's not entirely a fake injury type thing though, because his velocity has been way down from the past 2 years. I don't know what exactly it is, but he's not right. He's been horrendus and I think a lot of it may have stemmed from that ridiculous WBC way back before the season started.
I think he may be done for most of the season, if not all:
QuoteDaisuke Matsuzaka has been placed on the 15-day DL, Red Sox manager Terry Francona said on Sunday, and he hinted it could take months for the struggling right to recover.
"It's not going to be a two-week DL thing," said Francona. "We have a lot of work ahead of us to get him back to being Daisuke."
Matsuzaka had an MRI done yesterday that showed "a little bit of weakness in his shoulder," but there is no true structural damage.
Looks like that spot for Smoltz opened up.
Cox and Chipper tossed today. Was really interesting to me. Surprisingly it was the first of the year for Cox.
What set them off was a non-strike call that would have ended the at bat for Drew. It was not even on the corner it was a strike. he hit the next pitch off the wall to drive in the lead run.
Very good theater.
It's now tied 5-5 in the 9th.
You know which inning it was in QF?
Quote from: RHS on June 21, 2009, 03:31:53 pm
You know which inning it was in QF?
Bottom of the 7th.
Game ended with a walk off HR from Green for the Sox.
Good News: Pujols is 3-4 with 2 homers & 6 RBI as the Cards are pounding the Royals 12-5 in the 7th.
Bad News: Kirk gets to reap the reward in Josh's fantasy league.
Be happy that in Josh's league I won't get 20+ points like BoSox Hip Wreckers will in the FF league.
QF, which pitcher did Drew hit it off of? Jurgens or someone else?
Yanks lose again & CC left the game with a bicep injury. Not looking good in the Big Apple. Johnny are you worried yet?
Aaaaaaahahahahahahahahaha Nick Greeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen!!!!
This is a guy who was a longshot at best to even make the Sox roster out of spring training and he's hitting .293 with 4 HR and 25 RBI. What more could you ask for from him?
Papi went deep again too. He's getting it together.
Quote from: RHS on June 21, 2009, 03:37:48 pm
QF, which pitcher did Drew hit it off of? Jurgens or someone else?
Here's the video and all the info. Great stuff.
http://atlanta.braves.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090621&content_id=5454364&vkey=news_atl&fext=.jsp&c_id=atl
I'd found it on a chart earlier. Terrible call. Looking at some other charts though, he was all over the place.
Bring on those Dang Yankees. Rookie Hanson gets them 1-2-3 in the first.
I so wish I was in ATL tonight.
Yankees lose 4-0. Good times.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on June 23, 2009, 08:59:43 pm
Yankees lose 4-0. Good times.
b2b shutouts for Braves for the first time since 2005. Only the 3rd time the NYY's have been shut out this year. Hanson did well. Bullpen was awesome and McCann went yard. Pinch me.
If we could have got by the Sox game on Sunday we'd have had the impressive feat of defeating the Red Sox, Cubs and Yankees on consecutive days. That'd of been alright.
Pineiro is 1-hitting the Mets through 6. Fun times right there. And can the Cubs ever find a closer that doesn't blow. haha
What was Hanson's line?
Dude has got future Cy Young winner written all over him.
Quote from: MikeDiesel™ on June 23, 2009, 09:09:07 pm
Pineiro is 1-hitting the Mets through 6. Fun times right there. And can the Cubs ever find a closer that doesn't blow. haha
Figures Pineiro pitches well a week after I dump him in Josh's league.
So uh, David Ortiz. Good to see him hitting HR's again. Papi with the 3 run bomb!
Come on Braves. Someone hit a line drive off Joba's face. Please?
Is Kawakami alright? Heard he left the game.
Joba hit it off Kawakami's neck.
Waiting word. He partially deflected it.
FRANCOEUR
Yes.
I've been a pretty big Braves fan the last week or so :)
Good to know that the Yankees, Cubs, and Red Sox are still the most hated teams on here. I only hate the Yankees though.
Dear Kyle Lohse,
Please get healthy so Brad Thompson doesn't get the ball every 5 days. kthanksbye
Cardinal Fans
Man I'm pumped about John Smoltz starting tonight. I'm working though so I'm Tivo'ing it and will have to watch it really late. So, no text messages people. I'm not going to read them anyway.
Beckett vs Jurrjens
Nice pitching matchup. Go Sox.
Braves having to see Beckett again coming off that shutout by him against them 6 days ago.. :(
Josh Beckett is outstanding.
I know it's the Braves, but in his last 2 starts he's thrown 16 scoreless innings vs Atlanta.
My next to cheer against him will hopefully come in October.
Quote from: QF© on June 26, 2009, 10:55:21 pm
My next to cheer against him will hopefully come in October.
So, you'll be one of those people that are rooting against Boston even though your team didn't even make the playoffs? :)
Quote from: MikeDiesel™ on June 27, 2009, 10:45:38 am
Quote from: QF© on June 26, 2009, 10:55:21 pm
My next to cheer against him will hopefully come in October.
So, you'll be one of those people that are rooting against Boston even though your team didn't even make the playoffs? :)
There's only a single scenario that would make that happen.
Quote from: QF© on June 27, 2009, 10:54:33 am
Quote from: MikeDiesel™ on June 27, 2009, 10:45:38 am
Quote from: QF© on June 26, 2009, 10:55:21 pm
My next to cheer against him will hopefully come in October.
So, you'll be one of those people that are rooting against Boston even though your team didn't even make the playoffs? :)
There's only a single scenario that would make that happen.
What scenario is that?
A freakish Braves appearance.
Sox 1 Braves 0.
Fire Pendleton.
Also, can we play the Braves more often?
They seriously have the most pathetic offense I've seen all season long. Wake dominated today.
Red Sox 1, Braves 0 - Final
Mark DeRosa to the Cardinals for Chris Perez and a PTBNL.
Love love LOVE this deal for the Cardinals. They just got a lot better. Cleveland loses a bat, although they aren't hurting offensively but do have the worst bullpen in all of baseball so this helps them too.
The Cubs have to be hating this right now considering they traded Derosa away in the off-season.
I find it funny that the guys on ESPN just casually mentioned the trade when talking about Pujols. De Rosa is La Russa's favorite type of player. A guy that can play about 5 different positions. Like the trade, but hated to lose Perez.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on June 27, 2009, 10:37:52 pm
Mark DeRosa to the Cardinals for Chris Perez and a PTBNL.
Love love LOVE this deal for the Cardinals. They just got a lot better. Cleveland loses a bat, although they aren't hurting offensively but do have the worst bullpen in all of baseball so this helps them too.
The Cubs have to be hating this right now considering they traded Derosa away in the off-season.
Seeing this coupled with Milton Bradley's assinine season makes me want to puke right now. For the last few years, it looked like Hendry had the club going in the right direction, but they ROYALLY messed up this offseason.
Mixed feeling about the DeRosa trade.
He's a rental and Perez has talent that Motte and Todd don't. It will force them to overpay for a "closer" after Franklin's contract expires.
On the other hand, Mike is one of my favorite players in the game and La Russa will be able to utilize him better than any manager in the game based upon his managing philosophy.
Manny hit a lead off HR today against none other than Nick Schmidt.
Quote from: Ty on June 27, 2009, 11:12:01 pm
Mixed feeling about the DeRosa trade.
He's a rental and Perez has talent that Motte and Todd don't. It will force them to overpay for a "closer" after Franklin's contract expires.
On the other hand, Mike is one of my favorite players in the game and La Russa will be able to utilize him better than any manager in the game based upon his managing philosophy.
Perez was stuck in a log jam and Derosa is hitting about well over .300 this year and is a huge upgrade over how Ankiel and some of the other outfield has played.
And I think we can offer him arbitration next year, Im not sure. I think we would resign him anyway.
Quote from: ASU Rugby on June 28, 2009, 01:17:27 am
Quote from: Ty on June 27, 2009, 11:12:01 pm
Mixed feeling about the DeRosa trade.
He's a rental and Perez has talent that Motte and Todd don't. It will force them to overpay for a "closer" after Franklin's contract expires.
On the other hand, Mike is one of my favorite players in the game and La Russa will be able to utilize him better than any manager in the game based upon his managing philosophy.
Perez was stuck in a log jam and Derosa is hitting about well over .300 this year and is a huge upgrade over how Ankiel and some of the other outfield has played.
And I think we can offer him arbitration next year, Im not sure. I think we would resign him anyway.
I think I just saw that De Rosa was hitting .270 with 13 homers and 50 RBI's. So he isn't hitting over .300, but he is an upgrade for them.
Quote from: ASU Rugby on June 28, 2009, 01:17:27 am
Quote from: Ty on June 27, 2009, 11:12:01 pm
Mixed feeling about the DeRosa trade.
He's a rental and Perez has talent that Motte and Todd don't. It will force them to overpay for a "closer" after Franklin's contract expires.
On the other hand, Mike is one of my favorite players in the game and La Russa will be able to utilize him better than any manager in the game based upon his managing philosophy.
Perez was stuck in a log jam and Derosa is hitting about well over .300 this year and is a huge upgrade over how Ankiel and some of the other outfield has played.
And I think we can offer him arbitration next year, Im not sure. I think we would resign him anyway.
DeRosa won't be playing much outfield. He's going to get most of the time at third, where he's a below average fielder.
Four years down the road, this will more than likely be the Chris Perez trade instead of the Mark DeRosa trade.
Quote from: Ty on June 28, 2009, 03:23:41 am
Quote from: ASU Rugby on June 28, 2009, 01:17:27 am
Quote from: Ty on June 27, 2009, 11:12:01 pm
Mixed feeling about the DeRosa trade.
He's a rental and Perez has talent that Motte and Todd don't. It will force them to overpay for a "closer" after Franklin's contract expires.
On the other hand, Mike is one of my favorite players in the game and La Russa will be able to utilize him better than any manager in the game based upon his managing philosophy.
Perez was stuck in a log jam and Derosa is hitting about well over .300 this year and is a huge upgrade over how Ankiel and some of the other outfield has played.
And I think we can offer him arbitration next year, Im not sure. I think we would resign him anyway.
DeRosa won't be playing much outfield. He's going to get most of the time at third, where he's a below average fielder.
Four years down the road, this will more than likely be the Chris Perez trade instead of the Mark DeRosa trade.
You think much higher than Chris Perez than I do
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Mixed feeling about the DeRosa trade.
He's a rental and Perez has talent that Motte and Todd don't. It will force them to overpay for a "closer" after Franklin's contract expires.
On the other hand, Mike is one of my favorite players in the game and La Russa will be able to utilize him better than any manager in the game based upon his managing philosophy.
Perez was stuck in a log jam and Derosa is hitting about well over .300 this year and is a huge upgrade over how Ankiel and some of the other outfield has played.
And I think we can offer him arbitration next year, Im not sure. I think we would resign him anyway.
DeRosa won't be playing much outfield. He's going to get most of the time at third, where he's a below average fielder.
Four years down the road, this will more than likely be the Chris Perez trade instead of the Mark DeRosa trade.
You think much higher than Chris Perez than I do
Sorry for thinking highly of a righty that throw 97 with a + to ++ slider who strikes out almost 12 an inning and is making progress with his control.
On top that, we don't even know who the PTBNL is. Pray it isn't Fernando Samuel, because he is our last hope of having an actual closer.
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Quote from: Ty on June 27, 2009, 11:12:01 pm
Mixed feeling about the DeRosa trade.
He's a rental and Perez has talent that Motte and Todd don't. It will force them to overpay for a "closer" after Franklin's contract expires.
On the other hand, Mike is one of my favorite players in the game and La Russa will be able to utilize him better than any manager in the game based upon his managing philosophy.
Perez was stuck in a log jam and Derosa is hitting about well over .300 this year and is a huge upgrade over how Ankiel and some of the other outfield has played.
And I think we can offer him arbitration next year, Im not sure. I think we would resign him anyway.
DeRosa won't be playing much outfield. He's going to get most of the time at third, where he's a below average fielder.
Four years down the road, this will more than likely be the Chris Perez trade instead of the Mark DeRosa trade.
You think much higher than Chris Perez than I do
Sorry for thinking highly of a righty that throw 97 with a + to ++ slider who strikes out almost 12 an inning and is making progress with his control.
On top that, we don't even know who the PTBNL is. Pray it isn't Fernando Samuel, because he is our last hope of having an actual closer.
None of that makes him a closer.
And Im willing to bet Jess Todd will be our closer of the future.
I wish the Cubs could beat an AL Central team other than Minnesota. The Twins were an inning away from sweeping them in Chicago. However, CWS and Detroit have both taken the series from them in the last week or two. The Twins can't distance themselves from CWS, and cannot gain any ground on Detroit because they've been playing the Cubs.
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Quote from: Ty on June 28, 2009, 03:23:41 am
Quote from: ASU Rugby on June 28, 2009, 01:17:27 am
Quote from: Ty on June 27, 2009, 11:12:01 pm
Mixed feeling about the DeRosa trade.
He's a rental and Perez has talent that Motte and Todd don't. It will force them to overpay for a "closer" after Franklin's contract expires.
On the other hand, Mike is one of my favorite players in the game and La Russa will be able to utilize him better than any manager in the game based upon his managing philosophy.
Perez was stuck in a log jam and Derosa is hitting about well over .300 this year and is a huge upgrade over how Ankiel and some of the other outfield has played.
And I think we can offer him arbitration next year, Im not sure. I think we would resign him anyway.
DeRosa won't be playing much outfield. He's going to get most of the time at third, where he's a below average fielder.
Four years down the road, this will more than likely be the Chris Perez trade instead of the Mark DeRosa trade.
You think much higher than Chris Perez than I do
Sorry for thinking highly of a righty that throw 97 with a + to ++ slider who strikes out almost 12 an inning and is making progress with his control.
On top that, we don't even know who the PTBNL is. Pray it isn't Fernando Samuel, because he is our last hope of having an actual closer.
None of that makes him a closer.
And Im willing to bet Jess Todd will be our closer of the future.
Were gonna have to get a new general manager and head scout for that to happen since they both have convinced themselves that Todd doesn't have major league stuff.
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Quote from: Ty on June 28, 2009, 03:23:41 am
Quote from: ASU Rugby on June 28, 2009, 01:17:27 am
Quote from: Ty on June 27, 2009, 11:12:01 pm
Mixed feeling about the DeRosa trade.
He's a rental and Perez has talent that Motte and Todd don't. It will force them to overpay for a "closer" after Franklin's contract expires.
On the other hand, Mike is one of my favorite players in the game and La Russa will be able to utilize him better than any manager in the game based upon his managing philosophy.
Perez was stuck in a log jam and Derosa is hitting about well over .300 this year and is a huge upgrade over how Ankiel and some of the other outfield has played.
And I think we can offer him arbitration next year, Im not sure. I think we would resign him anyway.
DeRosa won't be playing much outfield. He's going to get most of the time at third, where he's a below average fielder.
Four years down the road, this will more than likely be the Chris Perez trade instead of the Mark DeRosa trade.
You think much higher than Chris Perez than I do
Sorry for thinking highly of a righty that throw 97 with a + to ++ slider who strikes out almost 12 an inning and is making progress with his control.
On top that, we don't even know who the PTBNL is. Pray it isn't Fernando Samuel, because he is our last hope of having an actual closer.
None of that makes him a closer.
And Im willing to bet Jess Todd will be our closer of the future.
If we want to go through more seasons of having a league average closer, than yes I'm all for having him as a closer.
He doesn't deal with lefties well enough to face them consistently in a "closer' role.
I just dont believe Perez has the make up to be a closer. I mean he never showed it for the Cardinals and surely didnt show it in his debut for Cleveland today.
And more seasons of a league average closer, I would argue that Franklin has been well above average this year and I wouldnt be so quick to discount him in our future.
Chris Perez's debut last night was straight out of Major League. First thing that came to my head was Rick Vaughan.
Quote from: ASU Rugby on June 30, 2009, 01:07:07 am
I just dont believe Perez has the make up to be a closer. I mean he never showed it for the Cardinals and surely didnt show it in his debut for Cleveland today.
And more seasons of a league average closer, I would argue that Franklin has been well above average this year and I wouldnt be so quick to discount him in our future.
Franklin's been good this year, but he's also been extremely lucky. His HR/FB are unsustainable and his BABIP is very low as well. If you think he's the long term solution, I'd take a look at his stats again.
Dear Carlos Beltran,
Please return soon.
-Concerned fantasy owner
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Dear Carlos Beltran,
Please return soon.
-Concerned fantasy owner
Ditto.
So the supposed "best bullpen in baseball" blew a 10-1 lead in two innings. What gives Josh? I'd be laughing, but only one person on my team can drive in runs right now. :(
Quote from: jbell96 on June 30, 2009, 11:13:03 pm
So the supposed "best bullpen in baseball" blew a 10-1 lead in two innings. What gives Josh? I'd be laughing, but only one person on my team can drive in runs right now. :(
We do have the best bullpen in baseball. Without question. I'm not sure how anyone could even argue against the fact.
With that said, that was a pathetic performance tonight. Just awful. I am embarassed. I'm still trying to figure out what just happened.
At least Smoltz looked good until he fell victim to the rain delay.
Quote from: jbell96 on June 30, 2009, 11:13:03 pmbut only one person on my team can drive in runs right now. :(
And most of those runs are his own :-\ ....fricken 30 homeruns before July. :o Long live superman!
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Quote from: jbell96 on June 30, 2009, 11:13:03 pmbut only one person on my team can drive in runs right now. :(
And most of those runs are his own :-\ ....fricken 30 homeruns before July. :o Long live superman!
He'll look good in a Sox uniform in a couple of years.
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Quote from: jbell96 on June 30, 2009, 11:13:03 pmbut only one person on my team can drive in runs right now. :(
And most of those runs are his own :-\ ....fricken 30 homeruns before July. :o Long live superman!
He'll look good in a Sox uniform in a couple of years.
Blasphemy! Shut that filthy mouth!
I'm not concerned anyways. He's made it clear where he wants to be and take at look at the salary...he's clearly not doing it for the money. Albert has said many times that STL is his home and where he wants to be....and mainly he wants to play for LaRussa. He said he will play for LaRussa as long as he is blessed to be given the chance. Sounds so crazy in today's world where all the players go where they get the most money...he really is different kind of player than we're all use to seeing. Superman!
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Quote from: jbell96 on June 30, 2009, 11:13:03 pmbut only one person on my team can drive in runs right now. :(
And most of those runs are his own :-\ ....fricken 30 homeruns before July. :o Long live superman!
He'll look good in a Sox uniform in a couple of years.
Blasphemy! Shut that filthy mouth!
Hey, it just goes to show that they ARe the new Yankees.
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Quote from: jbell96 on June 30, 2009, 11:13:03 pmbut only one person on my team can drive in runs right now. :(
And most of those runs are his own :-\ ....fricken 30 homeruns before July. :o Long live superman!
He'll look good in a Sox uniform in a couple of years.
Blasphemy! Shut that filthy mouth!
Hey, it just goes to show that they ARe the new Yankees.
Yep and will soon be hated just as much as the Yanks too! What a goal to stive for...yet they're doing so well at it!
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Quote from: jbell96 on June 30, 2009, 11:13:03 pmbut only one person on my team can drive in runs right now. :(
And most of those runs are his own :-\ ....fricken 30 homeruns before July. :o Long live superman!
He'll look good in a Sox uniform in a couple of years.
Blasphemy! Shut that filthy mouth!
I'm not concerned anyways. He's made it clear where he wants to be and take at look at the salary...he's clearly not doing it for the money. Albert has said many times that STL is his home and where he wants to be....and mainly he wants to play for LaRussa. He said he will play for LaRussa as long as he is blessed to be given the chance. Sounds so crazy in today's world where all the players go where they get the most money...he really is different kind of player than we're all use to seeing. Superman!
But what if Tony gets canned before Albert's contract is up? Who's to say that he'll want to stay in St Louis? Also, if you guys can't put some protection in the lineup around him, who's to say he doesn't look around when his contract is up? You had Mark freaking DeRosa batting behind him the other night. I would have walked Albert every time he came to the plate.
Don't see how you can call us the Yankees when we get all our talent for cheap (well, outside of Dice K).
Tony won't get canned, but I am concerned having no protection for Albert in the order.
I don't think Tony is around much longer. Just a hunch.
Quote from: MikeDiesel™ on July 01, 2009, 12:46:03 pm
Hey, it just goes to show that they ARe the new Yankees.
There are no "new Yankees". When the Yankees quit conducting business like the Yankees, then some other team can become "the new yankees".
I'm starting to feel positive about the Braves. Extra innings win last night over ther division leading Phillies and an 8-1 lead tonight. Despite not having a good record, they are in the division race and defeating the Phillies is certainly helpful.
They just need to score more often(duh). The SP is doing just fine and that's without Hudson.
Hate it for Wainwright tonight...threw a 9 inning complete game with 12 strike outs but no win because it was tied when he came out in the bottoom of the 9th. That would suck....definately glad to see the win though. Yay for Colby Rasmus!
Pujols just hit a GS in the top of the 8th to erase a 3 run deficit.
Question: When does someone intentionally walk Pujols with the bases loaded when they are up 2 or 3 runs so they don't even have to face him?
Bullpen blew the lead in the 8th, but the Cards scored 3 in the 9th with Franklin now trying to close it out.
Is it okay for me to get a little excited about the Braves yet?
FTR, I'm just glad the division is winnable at this point.
Twins were down 6-0 after 3, and 7-2 after 6. We just scored 4 runs to make it 7-6, and we have a runner on 3rd with Mauer at the plate and 1 out. I think it is safe to say we will have a tie ball game after this inning. Crazy game.
Ty, SMC and myself were talking about how both of us would have walked him to force in a run and make someone else beat us. I wouldn't pitch to that guy ever.
Quote from: RHS on July 03, 2009, 10:22:30 pm
Ty, SMC and myself were talking about how both of us would have walked him to force in a run and make someone else beat us. I wouldn't pitch to that guy ever.
I was sitting in the living room watching the game and randomly said that's what I would do out loud before he even stepped up to the plate. My mom, who is a fan of baseball but doesn't keep up with it, said "Duh. He's going to hit a GS.".
Not a bad night for Hoffpauir; draw the walk that brings Pujols up to the plate with the bases juiced and then get the game winning hit.
Quote from: Ty on July 03, 2009, 08:28:40 pmQuestion: When does someone intentionally walk Pujols with the bases loaded when they are up 2 or 3 runs so they don't even have to face him?
When managers decide they would rather win games than lose them.
I really, really don't get it. Why would you EVER pitch to Pujols? I wouldn't pitch to him if the bases were empty, and I wouldn't pitch to him if they were loaded either. The Cardinals lineup is pretty much garbage aside from Pujols anyway. Why not make someone else beat you? I will never understand it. But hey, if you want to lose, go ahead and pitch to him.
Mike Cameron: The man, the myth, the legend.
And this week's fantasy hero for my team.
Hanson is simply dealing.
Quote from: QF© on July 04, 2009, 01:43:00 pm
Hanson is simply dealing.
Against the worst team in baseball.
Oops jinxed it. Dang bullpen.
A couple of leads being blown today. The CWS were up 3-0 and 4-2. They gave up 3 runs in the 6th. KC is now leading 5-4.
The Braves had only given up 2 hits going into the 7th, and no runs. They were up 3-0. Washington has scored 2 runs in the 8th now to make it 3-3 with runners on the corner and 1 out.
Nats 5-3 now. GOing to have to let Hanson just go the complete game route I guess. What a mo killer if we don't get this back in the 9th. Just starting to get hot at the right time.
Bummer.
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Quote from: QF© on July 04, 2009, 01:43:00 pm
Hanson is simply dealing.
Against the worst team in baseball.
It's still a team of paid professionals
Liriano gave up 2 hits in the first inning, then pitched 5 hitless innings. He has 8 strikeouts and 0 ER. However, he just gave up back to back hits in the 7th. He was on fire, but now they are starting to figure him out.
2-0 Twins.
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Quote from: QF© on July 04, 2009, 01:43:00 pm
Hanson is simply dealing.
Against the worst team in baseball.
It's still a team of paid professionals
I know. She made it sound like he was untouchable though. At that point, his line against the Nationals wasn't that spectacular. He had 4 strikeouts, 3 hits, and 0 ERs at that point in, I believe, the 6th inning. It is good, but it wasn't amazing considering the Nationals are the worst team in baseball.
Detroit Lions were paid professionals last year, but throwing for 250 yards on them isn't something to write home about...
Anyways, Liriano gave up a 3 run homer after striking the previous batter out. Twins are now down 3-2.
Is there anyone else that gets a feeling of revulsion when you catch sight of Tim Lincecum's greasy mop?
Going into today's action, Hanson had 20 straight shutout innings and the last 13 or so were vs. Boston and the NYY(Balt before that). He added 6 more to that total before giving up a HR to Dunn.
I believe that qualifies as dealing.
Quote from: QF© on July 04, 2009, 05:58:15 pm
Going into today's action, Hanson had 20 straight shutout innings and the last 13 or so were vs. Boston and the NYY(Balt before that). He added 6 more to that total before giving up a HR to Dunn.
I believe that qualifies as dealing.
Previous appearances don't factor into someone's performance today. He was pitching good today. I was just saying it was against the worst team and he wasn't exactly blowing it by them. They were making solid contact. He pitched good enough to win. I am just not impressed by it being against the worst team in baseball.
He's been dealing for 2 weeks over 4+ starts versus several opponents. His performance today was a continuation.
In my younger days, I would have had found several of his rookie cards like I have of so many Braves. But I gave that up several years ago.
2 reasons against fans voting for the All-Stars:
1) Molina over McCann- Not even close that McSucks
2) Jeter as the overall vote leader in the AL- laughable
There are others.
Tim Wakefield is going to the All Star Game!!!!
Congrats Wake. Even if you're not a Red Sox fan, you've gotta love this.
Time to vote on the final 2:
AMERICAN LEAGUE
3B Chone Figgins, LAA
3B Brandon Inge, DET
2B Ian Kinsler, TEX
DH Adam Lind, TOR
1B Carlos Pena, TB
NATIONAL LEAGUE
SS Cristian Guzman, WAS
OF Matt Kemp, LAD
3B Mark Reynolds, ARI
3B Pablo Sandoval, SF
OF Shane Victorino, PHI
Quote from: QF© on July 05, 2009, 01:21:33 pm
2 reasons against fans voting for the All-Stars:
1) Molina over McCann- Not even close that McSucks
If it were based on offensive stats alone then yes this would be wrong, but it's about defense as well.
Molina has a .996 fielding percentage & has thrown out 44% of the runners who've tried to steal against him.
McCann has a .989 fielding percentage & has only thrown out 26% of runners who've tried to steal on him.
I hope Inge gets it. Dude's been a fantasy stud for me.
I think Kinsler deserves is most.
Tex being a starter is laughable. I would start Morneau over him but the fans voted him a starter, despite JM having a better OBP (+.13), SLG (+.33), OPS (+.47) and BA (+.41). Not to mention more runs, hits and rbi.
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Quote from: QF© on July 05, 2009, 01:21:33 pm
2 reasons against fans voting for the All-Stars:
1) Molina over McCann- Not even close that McSucks
If it were based on offensive stats alone then yes this would be wrong, but it's about defense as well.
Molina has a .996 fielding percentage & has thrown out 44% of the runners who've tried to steal against him.
McCann has a .989 fielding percentage & has only thrown out 26% of runners who've tried to steal on him.
Not to mention how well Molina handles the Cardinals pitching staff.
Didn't notice it until I started watching the Sunday night game, but why does the NL have FOUR first baseman. Howard on the team is a joke. He can't touch the other three in any major category except for K's.
Quote from: jbell96 on July 05, 2009, 11:28:57 pm
Didn't notice it until I started watching the Sunday night game, but why does the NL have FOUR first baseman. Howard on the team is a joke. He can't touch the other three in any major category except for K's.
Probably put him on the team becasue he is a big name who is from St. Louis. At least thats my best guess.
That or his skipper, who is managing the NL, put him on the team.
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That or his skipper, who is managing the NL, put him on the team.
Bingo.
Quote from: Ty on July 05, 2009, 11:01:23 pm
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Quote from: QF© on July 05, 2009, 01:21:33 pm
2 reasons against fans voting for the All-Stars:
1) Molina over McCann- Not even close that McSucks
If it were based on offensive stats alone then yes this would be wrong, but it's about defense as well.
Molina has a .996 fielding percentage & has thrown out 44% of the runners who've tried to steal against him.
McCann has a .989 fielding percentage & has only thrown out 26% of runners who've tried to steal on him.
Not to mention how well Molina handles the Cardinals pitching staff.
Have you looked at the ATL staff? Molina is alright, but his offense offsets his defense by comparison.
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Quote from: Ty on July 05, 2009, 11:01:23 pm
Quote from: jbell96 on July 05, 2009, 03:09:32 pm
Quote from: QF© on July 05, 2009, 01:21:33 pm
2 reasons against fans voting for the All-Stars:
1) Molina over McCann- Not even close that McSucks
If it were based on offensive stats alone then yes this would be wrong, but it's about defense as well.
Molina has a .996 fielding percentage & has thrown out 44% of the runners who've tried to steal against him.
McCann has a .989 fielding percentage & has only thrown out 26% of runners who've tried to steal on him.
Not to mention how well Molina handles the Cardinals pitching staff.
Have you looked at the ATL staff? Molina is alright, but his offense offsets his defense by comparison.
Molina's defense actually offsets his offense, which is right at league average.
A run saved by defense is worth the exact same as a run produced by offense.
I think the right two catchers made the NL Team. Definitely could be an argument for McCann as the starter though.
The laughable stuff for me was both Tex and Youk getting all the press at 1B over Mourneau. Just don't see either one better. Only both play in MUCH bigger markets.
Similar situation with Pedroia over Aaron Hill at 2B.
I do agree with JBell. I don't see why Ryan Howard is on the team. I guess he's not a bad choice as a pinch hitter in this game. But, I don't know how you don't leave Pujols in for the vast majority of this game. And when you do sub, Gonzalez should come in. Fielder is a nice Pinch hitter also
Nomar is returning to Fenway tonight.
Albert Pujols, Prince Fielder, Ryan Howard, and Adrian Gonzalez have confirmed that they will be in the HR Derby. Yes yes.
Am I the only one that feels Adrian Gonzalez would put up some 50+ HR seasons if he wasn't playing in San Diego?
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Quote from: QF© on July 05, 2009, 01:21:33 pm
2 reasons against fans voting for the All-Stars:
1) Molina over McCann- Not even close that McSucks
If it were based on offensive stats alone then yes this would be wrong, but it's about defense as well.
Molina has a .996 fielding percentage & has thrown out 44% of the runners who've tried to steal against him.
McCann has a .989 fielding percentage & has only thrown out 26% of runners who've tried to steal on him.
I'm in no way disagreeing, but it's an All-Star game, and if you think fans are going to be looking at a catcher's defensive numbers for one exhibition game, you must forget about the world we live in. With that said, I would take a healthy McCann as my catcher over Yadier any day of the week. Don't forget McCann struggled with eye issues for a portion of the early season and then missed some time to have it corrected. He's still got 8 HR's and is hitting over .300. I'm not as in touch with offensive numbers like OBP and Slg% this year due to being out of town for a combined 4 weeks this summer, but McCann is still having a good offensive year for a catcher despite being on the DL for a while and having major eye issues early on.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on July 06, 2009, 05:16:02 pm
Albert Pujols, Prince Fielder, Ryan Howard, and Adrian Gonzalez have confirmed that they will be in the HR Derby. Yes yes.
300 bombs between the four of them
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Quote from: jbell96 on July 05, 2009, 03:09:32 pm
Quote from: QF© on July 05, 2009, 01:21:33 pm
2 reasons against fans voting for the All-Stars:
1) Molina over McCann- Not even close that McSucks
If it were based on offensive stats alone then yes this would be wrong, but it's about defense as well.
Molina has a .996 fielding percentage & has thrown out 44% of the runners who've tried to steal against him.
McCann has a .989 fielding percentage & has only thrown out 26% of runners who've tried to steal on him.
I'm in no way disagreeing, but it's an All-Star game, and if you think fans are going to be looking at a catcher's defensive numbers for one exhibition game, you must forget about the world we live in. With that said, I would take a healthy McCann as my catcher over Yadier any day of the week. Don't forget McCann struggled with eye issues for a portion of the early season and then missed some time to have it corrected. He's still got 8 HR's and is hitting over .300. I'm not as in touch with offensive numbers like OBP and Slg% this year due to being out of town for a combined 4 weeks this summer, but McCann is still having a good offensive year for a catcher despite being on the DL for a while and having major eye issues early on.
OPS: McCann: .876
Molina: .728
BA:McCann: .303
Molina: .281
Slugging: McCann: .491
Molina: .381
K's:McCann: 30 in 218 AB's
Molina: 19 in 260 AB's
Errors:McCann: 5 in 422 chances
Molina: 2 in 508 chances
Fielding Percentage: McCann: .989
Molina: .996
Base Stealers:McCann: Caught 13 of 49 (26.5%)
Molina: Caught 12 of 26 (46.2%)
I'm not sure who I'd take on my team. My bias is definitely for Molina (and he's taking the Pujols' "I'll never strikeout" approach to hitting). Defense, Molina has the definite edge. Offense, McCann has the definite edge. Which is worth more, I'm not sure.
Good post Mike. I think you said it best.
Me saying I'd take McCann is also a little biased as well. However, over the course of a 162 per game average, based on their career averages, I'd think McCann is worth more runs per game(offensively and defensively cobined)than Yadier. I could be wrong though. Basing McCann's value as a catcher on this season alone isn't really fair to him as a player. Your eyes are obviously important in any sport, but i think that is most true in baseball. The first month or so of the season, before going on the DL, McCann was basically taking AB's blind.
A little Mariners update. They shutout the Orioles tonight 5-0. Jarrod Washburn with a complete game, one hit, shutout. Oh yeah...
Not so good news for the Cardinals.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4311399
Heck, I thought you meant really bad. ;)
Quote from: AB™ on July 07, 2009, 01:02:49 am
Me saying I'd take McCann is also a little biased as well. However, over the course of a 162 per game average, based on their career averages, I'd think McCann is worth more runs per game(offensively and defensively cobined)than Yadier. I could be wrong though. Basing McCann's value as a catcher on this season alone isn't really fair to him as a player. Your eyes are obviously important in any sport, but i think that is most true in baseball. The first month or so of the season, before going on the DL, McCann was basically taking AB's blind.
I definitely wish Yadier had his brother Bengie's pop in his bat. But, he's still fun to watch.
There's quite a few nice series starting tonight, but with so much parity in baseball that's often the case.
Rays vs Blue Jays
Twins vs Yankees
Brewers vs Cardinals
Mets vs Dodgers
Cubs vs Braves
Angels vs Rangers
Come on you Twins. Well, and Brewers.
Man you sure do spend a lot of energy on the Cardinals.
Rasmus has three hits so far including a HR, Ludwick as a 3 run HR as well as the Cardinals lead the Brewers 5-0 in the bottom of the 6th.
You can always count on the Twins to lay down for the Yankees. It never fails.
Cardinals roughed up Gallardo tonight.
Pat Burrell just hit a walk off 2 run bomb to beat Toronto in 11 innings.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on July 07, 2009, 09:35:15 pm
You can always count on the Twins to lay down for the Yankees. It never fails.
Cardinals roughed up Gallardo tonight.
Pat Burrell just hit a walk off 2 run bomb to beat Toronto in 11 innings.
You got that right. We can never beat the yankees. It should be a lot worse than it is.
13 hits through 5 innings already...
Cardinals shut out the Brewers tonight.
Hey Ryan Dempster, next time you get the urge to jump over a rail to go celebrate, DON'T DO IT.
Cards friggin lose 5-4 on an infield hit by Prince Fielder off all people. We need to win tomorrow and take the series.
Andruw Jones hits a HR in each of his first three AB's tonight and popped up on the 4th AB. He hit an HR last night in his last AB to give him 4 in a row.
He'll have another AB later in this game.
He hit 3 total last year for the Dodgers.
Welcome back Andruw.
PLus we should note the rare occurance of a pitcher winning a game without throwing a pitch. Alan Embree of the Rockies did so the other night.
David Murphy makes an amazing play.
http://mlb.mlb.com/media/video.jsp?content_id=5485207
Someone check on dc. Mariners were up 3-0 and lose 5-3 allowing 5 O's runs in the 9th.
Wakefield was dealing tonight and missing bats as he got 8 K's and a win tonight.
The Twins are 14-40 vs the Yankees since 2002.
lol what a joke
I think Kevin Gregg might be my new favorite player. :)
Suck on it Brew Crew. Nice to see Joel get some run support late in the game. He'd have 10 wins now if we'd get them some run support.
Has anyone else been watching the 8th inning of the D-backs and Marlins game? Holy crap.
So I turn on this game and here's what has transpired so far:
1. Blaine Boyer throws it away trying to pick off Bonifacio at 1st
2. Uggla singles in Bonafacio
3. Grounder to 3rd, Reynolds throwing error pulls Lopez off the bag at 2nd
4. Cody Ross RBI single
5. Jeremy Hermida RBI single
6. John Baker RBI double
7. Passed ball, runner scores
8. Fielders choice, RBI
...And this inning just wrapped up with Florida dropping 10 runs. I mean, Hanley came up as a pinch hitter. And batted TWICE. The D-backs had a 7-0 lead going into the 6th inning. It is now 14-7 Marlins. I kid you not. I think the D-backs quite possibly could have the Natinals beat in ineptitude. If they don't, man, they're making a strong push.
Nice show by Joel Pineiro, facing 28 batters in a complete game.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on July 10, 2009, 12:02:42 am
Has anyone else been watching the 8th inning of the D-backs and Marlins game? Holy crap.
So I turn on this game and here's what has transpired so far:
1. Blaine Boyer throws it away trying to pick off Bonifacio at 1st
2. Uggla singles in Bonafacio
3. Grounder to 3rd, Reynolds throwing error pulls Lopez off the bag at 2nd
4. Cody Ross RBI single
5. Jeremy Hermida RBI single
6. John Baker RBI double
7. Passed ball, runner scores
8. Fielders choice, RBI
...And this inning just wrapped up with Florida dropping 10 runs. I mean, Hanley came up as a pinch hitter. And batted TWICE. The D-backs had a 7-0 lead going into the 6th inning. It is now 14-7 Marlins. I kid you not. I think the D-backs quite possibly could have the Natinals beat in ineptitude. If they don't, man, they're making a strong push.
Josh, it was 7-4 going into that inning, not 7-0.
Quote from: jbell96 on July 10, 2009, 10:32:02 am
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on July 10, 2009, 12:02:42 am
Has anyone else been watching the 8th inning of the D-backs and Marlins game? Holy crap.
So I turn on this game and here's what has transpired so far:
1. Blaine Boyer throws it away trying to pick off Bonifacio at 1st
2. Uggla singles in Bonafacio
3. Grounder to 3rd, Reynolds throwing error pulls Lopez off the bag at 2nd
4. Cody Ross RBI single
5. Jeremy Hermida RBI single
6. John Baker RBI double
7. Passed ball, runner scores
8. Fielders choice, RBI
...And this inning just wrapped up with Florida dropping 10 runs. I mean, Hanley came up as a pinch hitter. And batted TWICE. The D-backs had a 7-0 lead going into the 6th inning. It is now 14-7 Marlins. I kid you not. I think the D-backs quite possibly could have the Natinals beat in ineptitude. If they don't, man, they're making a strong push.
Josh, it was 7-4 going into that inning, not 7-0.
Yeah I know, I was talking about the 7-0 lead the D-backs had earlier in the game in the 6th.
Cubs and Cardinals at 1:20 today. Sweet.
I love afternoon baseball.
Even sweeter is the fact that Carp is pitching today. We'll get Kyle Lohse back tomorrow as he'll pitch the 2nd game of the doubleheader after Wainwright goes in game 1.
EDIT: Lohse is pitching in the Sunday night game. Brad "meat" Thompson is pitching game 1 of the DH tomorrow with Wainy going in game 2.
Cards take game 1 8-3. Carp only made on mistake, 3 run homer to Derek Lee, & Ludwick continued his hot hitting going 3-3 with 4 RBI's.
I wanted the Cubs to win, but as I was telling J'Lo earlier all I could do was sit back and laugh. They are so bad. I have officially given up hope that the Cubs will win the Central. I don't see the Brewers winning it either with the team they've got right now.
This trade just went down:
Braves get: Ryan Church
Mets get: Jeff Francoeur
I like this deal for Atlanta because Francoeur just sucks. Church isn't going to win them the division or anything but he's definitely an upgrade from Francoeur.
Wellllllllllll, I certainly agree that Jeff has been not that great the past 18 months. But a trade is supposed to help you.
They essentially just dumped him.
Plus an in-division trade with the Mets? wow.
Jonathan Sanchez has a perfect game through 7 innings.
If you have Extra Innings turn over to this game NOW. They're showing it on MLB Network too.
Are you serious???? Aaron Rowand just made an incredible catch up against the wall!
1 out left!!!
JONATHAN SANCHEZ NO HITTER!!!!
PG still going on?
Quote from: RHS on July 10, 2009, 11:39:29 pm
PG still going on?
Uribe booted a ball in the 8th and lost the PG, but he just threw the no no.
Amazing.
Nice to watch the dad in the stands seeing his sons no-no. Then they let him in the dugout afterwards and the dad was in major tears.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on July 10, 2009, 11:42:09 pm
Quote from: RHS on July 10, 2009, 11:39:29 pm
PG still going on?
Uribe booted a ball in the 8th and lost the PG, but he just threw the no no.
Amazing.
If I were Sanchez, I wouldn't talk to Uribe for at least a week. :)
I've said all year the Braves would be a serious World Series contender if their offense was just a little bit above average. I just saw a stat where we are 36-10 when we score 4+ runs in a game. The Braves have a top 3-5 starting rotation in baseball but a below average offense. We have no speed and little real power in our bats.
Bad News: Cubs beat the Cardinals 5-2.
Good News: Barring injuries, it will be the last time Brad Thompson gets to start this year.
Quote from: jbell96 on July 11, 2009, 05:58:10 pm
Bad News: Cubs beat the Cardinals 5-2.
Good News: Barring injuries, it will be the last time Brad Thompson gets to start this year.
Hes better than Wellemeyer
Eh, there both about the same when comparing their stats.
Quote from: AB™ on July 11, 2009, 05:56:02 pm
I've said all year the Braves would be a serious World Series contender if their offense was just a little bit above average. I just saw a stat where we are 36-10 when we score 4+ runs in a game. The Braves have a top 3-5 starting rotation in baseball but a below average offense. We have no speed and little real power in our bats.
I am sure a lot of teams have a good record when they score 4+ runs in a game.
The Rangers didn't the past few years and i'm sure they were puttin up 4+ a game
So, Josh Beckett is ridiculous. CG 3 hit shutout today.
The Yankees are on the verge of being swept by the Angels, down 4-1 in the 6th. Oh if that holds up.
The Angels are the anti-Twins when it comes to playing the yanks.
Quote from: RHS on July 12, 2009, 04:24:55 pm
The Angels are the anti-Twins when it comes to playing the yanks.
Indeed.
Lackey just worked out of a HUGE bases loaded no out jam. Struck out Tex on a full count and got A-Rod to ground into a DP. 4-2 Angels in the 7th.
And the Angels sweep the Yanks. A-Roid strikes out swinging to end the ball game.
Joel Pinerio has been putting up some crazy stats this season.
http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2009/7/10/944337/joel-pineiro-pitches-old-enough-to
The article basically explains how some of his success has been earned this year. He is literally pitching like a dead ball pitcher, not striking out anyone , not walking anyone as well, and not giving up home runs.
Some crazy things going on in the Cards/Cubs game.
Marshall was brought in to face a lefty and then Pineilla made a double switch, sending him to LF while he brought in a righty to face a RH batter. Marshall was then brought back in from left field to face a LH batter. La Russa pinch hit a RH batter for the LH batter.
Did that ball in the 9th that Rasmus roped hit the ground? I watched on the computer & it was fuzzy, but it looked like it hit the ground.
It definitely hit the ground.
But it's okay, because Ryan Franklin is $$$$$$$$$$.
Jeff, I can't quote you on my phone, but that's not what I meant. And I know I should have worded it better, but we have lost a good share of games when we give up 2-4 runs, and get shutout or score one run. My main point is that our starting pitching is extremely good, and our offense is pretty bad
No more Wrigley this year. You had your shot Cubs.
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on July 12, 2009, 10:23:53 pm
It definitely hit the ground.
But it's okay, because Ryan Franklin is $$$$$$$$$$.
I saw the play when I got home, thank you DVR, and that guy wasn't even close to catching the ball. Had I seen that one at home I probably would've hit the ceiling of my house and woke up my daughter.
Yeah Franklin was money, but two of those called strike three's were a little outside. I guess they were to make up calls for the non catch.
Quote from: jbell96 on July 13, 2009, 09:00:23 am
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on July 12, 2009, 10:23:53 pm
It definitely hit the ground.
But it's okay, because Ryan Franklin is $$$$$$$$$$.
Yeah Franklin was money, but two of those called strike three's were a little outside. I guess they were to make up calls for the non catch.
No, he put the ball exactly where Molina set up. You're getting that call 80% of the time.
I know he hit where Molina set up, and pitchers usually get the call, but it was still a little outside. Believe me, I'm not complaining. :)
People who have my number, don't send me any texts about the HR Derby tonight. I am recording it while I work the Naturals game. kthksbi
Pedro officially signed with the Phillies.
Man I hope he does well. Love that guy.
Ladies and gentlemen, I bring you good news: Julio Lugo has been DFA'd!!!!
(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c214/msubulldogs21/borat.jpg)
By the way, for those of you with Directv, MLB Extra Innings is free all week. Enjoy.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on July 17, 2009, 04:18:39 pm
Ladies and gentlemen, I bring you good news: Julio Lugo has been DFA'd!!!!
Very nice!!!
Just got to watch the retirement ceremony of Greg Maddux's #31 in pregame ceremonies before tonights game. It was truly a great moment for Braves fans and hope some of you other Braves fans got to see it too.
First ballot Hall of Famer and the best of his era. Many don't know he won 18 Gold Gloves as well.
My parents took my 10 year old niece to St. Louis for tonight's game. She's watching Carp pitch a shutout & has seen Pujols hit two homers. FML
At least I have the free extra innings preview to take solace in.
Josh, Dennan, and I (and maybe Kirk) are going to a Rangers v. Red Sox game next week if all goes according to plan.
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on July 17, 2009, 09:17:27 pm
Josh, Dennan, and I (and maybe Kirk) are going to a Rangers v. Red Sox game next week if all goes according to plan.
:D
You didn't even mention the other minor league games.
As a fantasy owner, I really hate it when a manager pulls a starter out after the 8th when he hasn't thrown many pitches & has a 4-0 lead.
I agree. I had Carpenter going too and was heading for my best point total in one day all year.
I miss the Red Sox offense, wherever its gone the last several weeks.
The Twins signed Mark Grudzielanek today.
They are in a good game with Texas right now. Twins are going for the sweep and to come within a game of Detroit. We were up 3-1, but Texas just tied it up in the bottom of the 7th.
Been watching as well, Jeff.
Reversing that Andruw Jones foul HR was huge. Good thing for replay.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on July 19, 2009, 09:39:35 pm
Been watching as well, Jeff.
Reversing that Andruw Jones foul HR was huge. Good thing for replay.
Yeah, I am glad they reviewed it. It clearly crossed in front of the foul pole. Even Jones was staying at the plate until the ump called fair ball.
We left Liriano in one too many at bats, but it is alright.
Twins had runners on 2nd and 1st with 1 out and didn't get a run in the 12th. Kinsler comes up in the bottom of the 12th with 1 out and hits a 2 run homer.
Cardinals need to get a friggin bat. We've scored 2 runs in each of our last three games. It is getting old.
Braves rookie pitcher Tommy Hanson now 5-0
Just continuing to be a beast.
The Phillies are sizzling hot. They look like they are on a mission to defend their title.
The Yankees are stepping up. The Sox look lost out there.
The Cubs are picking it up as well. The Cards better wake up!
There are good races all around right now.
Quote from: MHSPANTHERS on July 22, 2009, 12:41:41 am
The Phillies are sizzling hot. They look like they are on a mission to defend their title.
The Yankees are stepping up. The Sox look lost out there.
The Cubs are picking it up as well. The Cards better wake up!
There are good races all around right now.
Chicago is 6-4 in their last ten while the Cardinals are 5-5. Not exactly burning hot.
Quote from: MHSPANTHERS on July 22, 2009, 12:41:41 amThe Sox look lost out there.
Yes we do. This is embarassing.
I'm going to the game tomorrow. Time to reverse the bad mojo in person!
I'll be there with Josh.
For those that don't know, we're on a baseball tour of the mid-South. Tulsa today, Springdale yesterday, Arlington tomorrow. Too bad OKC is in New Orleans this week or we'd check out a Redhawks game while we're here.
Texas wins 3 in a row and drops 1/2 game to the Angels. And that's why I can't have NOTHIN nice!
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on July 22, 2009, 12:55:22 am
Quote from: MHSPANTHERS on July 22, 2009, 12:41:41 am
The Phillies are sizzling hot. They look like they are on a mission to defend their title.
The Yankees are stepping up. The Sox look lost out there.
The Cubs are picking it up as well. The Cards better wake up!
There are good races all around right now.
Chicago is 6-4 in their last ten while the Cardinals are 5-5. Not exactly burning hot.
Especially since four of those wins were against the Nats & they've also lost two in a row to the Phillies.
Sox fire first shot before trade deadline. LaRoche from the Pirates and now Lugo to STL for Duncan.
That's 5 position starters out of Pitt since last summer.
Lugo gone!!!!
youtube currently down or you would find a link to Kool and the Gang's "Celebration" video.
Hotlanta still takin it to Los Gigantes
Tobin and Josh started out in RF next to the grass. They then moved to about halfway down the 3B line and currently sit 20-25 rows behind home plate.
Good Lord, Franklin blows another great game from Carpenter. Not only a chance at a CG for Carpenter, but the win disappears as well.
That's getting old Tony.
Rangers sweep Sox even though at least three Texas players are down with the flu!
It's amazing how Boston's season has turned in recent weeks.
Quote from: RHS on July 22, 2009, 06:00:38 pm
Lugo gone!!!!
youtube currently down or you would find a link to Kool and the Gang's "Celebration" video.
I hate you. I'm kidding. (Sort of)
jbell, get used to this when he plays.
(http://bostonglob.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/url-1.jpeg)
Thank god they only want him in a back up role. I was going to lose my effing mind if they were going to take Ryan out of the starting lineup.
Do yall have any idea how bad I want to make Julio Lugo jokes right now? I mean, really, really bad.
But I can't. We have officially gone in the tank. We look like a bad NL team swinging the sticks these days. I don't even know what to say.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on July 23, 2009, 01:04:30 am
Do yall have any idea how bad I want to make Julio Lugo jokes right now? I mean, really, really bad.
But I can't. We have officially gone in the tank. We look like a bad NL team swinging the sticks these days. I don't even know what to say.
I've got a few, but they involve his ability to hit women vs. his ability to hit a fastball.
BTW, speaking of the Sox, Josh, Kirk, you both will be happy to know that Pedroia is now my son's favorite player.
Great job by Mark Buehrle today with the perfect game. I know there is another thread, but hats off to the gutsy left hander.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4350887
If this happens I have a bad feeling it will be the Dan Haren/Mark Mulder trade all over again.
Didn't Buerhle throw a no hitter last year?
Quote from: jbell96 on July 23, 2009, 04:48:54 pm
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4350887
If this happens I have a bad feeling it will be the Dan Haren/Mark Mulder trade all over again.
Holiday deal official:
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4353256
I really hope I'm wrong about my gut on this one. It will help in the short term, but who knows if Holliday will stick around after this year.
I like the Holliday deal for the Cards in the short term as well. If he sticks around I think he's agreat pick up for them because he'll be back in the NL. Holliday is having a sub-par season thus far but is actually swinging the bat pretty well this month.
If Holiday sticks around after this season its a good trade because Matt Holiday at his best is better than Brett Wallace even at his full potential.
But if he leaves, we look really really stupid.
I'd still be skeptical of Holliday since he has never really done great outside of Coor's Field.
jbell, his agent is Scott Boras. Don't you think he's going to shop him around to get him the best deal possible?
Quote from: jbell96 on July 24, 2009, 11:54:46 amIt will help in the short term, but who knows if Holliday will stick around after this year.
This move probably wins St. Louis the NL Central, but nothing more than that.
When Holliday signs elsewhere in the off-season the Cardinals will regret making this deal.
Quote from: RHS on July 24, 2009, 01:09:25 pm
I'd still be skeptical of Holliday since he has never really done great outside of Coor's Field.
I like Holliday as a player. Would love to have him. I think his numbers are down in part to having a terrible lineup surrounding him, as well as that cavern of a ballpark. I still think he's one of the better hitters in the league.
Quote from: RHS on July 24, 2009, 01:09:25 pmjbell, his agent is Scott Boras. Don't you think he's going to shop him around to get him the best deal possible?
Matt Holliday, along with Jason Bay, is going to get a monster deal this off-season.
I have my serious doubts Matt Holiday will get a monster deal so big STL couldnt match if they really wanted to.
Actually, if the market looks like it did last year he may take arbitration and give him a chance to have a bigger year and enter a bigger market.
Quote from: ASU Rugby on July 24, 2009, 03:35:40 pm
I have my serious doubts Matt Holiday will get a monster deal so big STL couldnt match if they really wanted to.
But would STL match it? That's a big question.
Josh, I'll get back to you on the numbers after work.
Quote from: ASU Rugby on July 24, 2009, 03:35:40 pm
I have my serious doubts Matt Holiday will get a monster deal so big STL couldnt match if they really wanted to.
What type of contract do you think he's going to get then?
Quote from: ASU Rugby on July 24, 2009, 03:35:40 pmActually, if the market looks like it did last year he may take arbitration and give him a chance to have a bigger year and enter a bigger market.
lol
Arbitration? Really?
Quote from: ASU Rugby on July 24, 2009, 12:56:53 pm
If Holiday sticks around after this season its a good trade because Matt Holiday at his best is better than Brett Wallace even at his full potential.
Taking you task on two points.
1. He is a Boras client. The only way he takes arbitration is if he doesn't have a monster two months & I doubt we'd offer it to him if that is the case.
2. I think it is idiotic to think Holliday at his best is better than Wallace at his when we haven't seen Wallace at his peak. If you already know this then you need to be involved in MLB.
So far so good for the Holliday era in St. Louis. Also, the JULIO LUGO ERA is off on the right foot. 2-5 with a triple & homer.
Welcome to the STL, Matt and Julio!
Boys, this team could make a run at the pennant now. We could've before, sure, but we're handling one of the top opponents this year.
We drilled one of the hottest & best teams in the NL tonight. 8 runs & 15 hits after scoring a grand total of 11 runs the past three games.
Dear Kansas City Royals-
SCORE SOME FREAKING RUNS.
DeWayne Wise is out-of-this-world this week.
There are two things that will make me think this is a good deal for us. 1. We win the world series 2. we sign him for more than this season. If neither of those happens its one of the worst trades in Cardinal history.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on July 25, 2009, 02:35:39 am
There are two things that will make me think this is a good deal for us. 1. We win the world series 2. we sign him for more than this season. If neither of those happens its one of the worst trades in Cardinal history.
Easy now. Might want to have Wallace or one of the other day make a major league appearance before you throw out things like that.
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on July 25, 2009, 08:40:55 am
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on July 25, 2009, 02:35:39 am
There are two things that will make me think this is a good deal for us. 1. We win the world series 2. we sign him for more than this season. If neither of those happens its one of the worst trades in Cardinal history.
Easy now. Might want to have Wallace or one of the other day make a major league appearance before you throw out things like that.
You forget how many times I have seen Wallace in person.
Heading to Kansas City today as a guest of the team to watch the Royals vs the Rangers tonight. Press Box pass and everything. Yayz.
JULIO LUGO!
Lugo is 3-3 today and just hit a game-tying RBI double.
In two games with the Cards, Lugo is 5-8 with a triple, a home run, 2 runs, and a stolen base.
FML. Jason "Gas Can" Motte is in full arson mode right now. Gave up a grand slam to Rollins & a solo shot to Victorino. Then Utley doubled. I think Tony is finally taking him out. He is prone to leaving a guy in one hitter too long.
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on July 25, 2009, 04:49:44 pm
JULIO LUGO!
Lugo is 3-3 today and just hit a game-tying RBI double.
In two games with the Cards, Lugo is 5-8 with a triple, a home run, 2 runs, and a stolen base.
What a joke man.
Give it some time. Take it from Boston - you'll hate him before long.
Josh, I told Tobin it's because he's in the NL now. ;)
Quote from: RHS on July 25, 2009, 09:14:39 pm
Josh, I told Tobin it's because he's in the NL now. ;)
This is true. That does help him a little bit. :)
Also, welcome to Boston Adam LaRoche! 2 run HR tonight in his first game with the Sox.
LaRoche > Kotsay
Actually, RHS > Kotsay
So I watched the first inning of the Royals game tonight from the production booth with an awesome view and then watched the next 5 innings from about two steps from being inside the Royals dugout and then moved over to the other side and was almost inside the Rangers dugout. What a great night. Got some awesome photos I will get up sometime in the next few days.
http://mlb.mlb.com/media/video.jsp?topic_id=kc&c_id=kc
If you watch the game recap video at the 1:14 mark you can see me in the background in the camera bay.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on July 26, 2009, 09:54:09 am
http://mlb.mlb.com/media/video.jsp?topic_id=kc&c_id=kc
If you watch the game recap video at the 1:14 mark you can see me in the background in the camera bay.
lol
YES! I see you were still reppin the Naturals hat.
Haha ya, I figured since I had no Royals hat it was a close second.
John Smoltz = Terrible
Leave the rotation plz
Yeah, the draft pick in fantasy has not paid off. Of course not all thing are transferable, but the Braves certainly have to be satisfied with their moves.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on July 26, 2009, 02:08:54 pm
John Smoltz = Terrible
Leave the rotation plz
Until you have to deal with Todd Wellemeyer you have no reason to complain. :)
Braves took 3 of 4 from the Brewers today. The Braves are steadily sneaking up on the Phillies.
I'm starting to focus on a Wild Card chance as the best bet for the Braves.
Quote from: jbell96 on July 26, 2009, 04:54:57 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on July 26, 2009, 02:08:54 pm
John Smoltz = Terrible
Leave the rotation plz
Until you have to deal with Todd Wellemeyer you have no reason to complain. :)
6 starts, 1-4, 7.04 ERA
Beat that. He is horrible.
Quote from: Romeo on July 26, 2009, 06:15:55 pm
Braves took 3 of 4 from the Brewers today. The Braves are steadily sneaking up on the Phillies.
I wouldn't count on catching Philly.
Like QF referenced, if the Braves are going to make the playoffs (I still doubt it) it's going to be by way of the Wild Card. Lots of teams involved there though so that will be tough.
By the way, the Cubs are back in 1st place now.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on July 26, 2009, 08:29:06 pm
Quote from: jbell96 on July 26, 2009, 04:54:57 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on July 26, 2009, 02:08:54 pm
John Smoltz = Terrible
Leave the rotation plz
Until you have to deal with Todd Wellemeyer you have no reason to complain. :)
6 starts, 1-4, 7.04 ERA
Beat that. He is horrible.
HA!
20 starts, 7-9 with a 5.79 ERA, 1.75 WHIP, & my personal favorite, opponent BA .327. Boomer Wells was making jokes yesterday that his young son needed his hitting confidence boosted so he should get him a couple of at bats against Wellemeyer.
I think I win.
Quote from: jbell96 on July 27, 2009, 11:36:06 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on July 26, 2009, 08:29:06 pm
Quote from: jbell96 on July 26, 2009, 04:54:57 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on July 26, 2009, 02:08:54 pm
John Smoltz = Terrible
Leave the rotation plz
Until you have to deal with Todd Wellemeyer you have no reason to complain. :)
6 starts, 1-4, 7.04 ERA
Beat that. He is horrible.
HA!
20 starts, 7-9 with a 5.79 ERA, 1.75 WHIP, & my personal favorite, opponent BA .327. Boomer Wells was making jokes yesterday that his young son needed his hitting confidence boosted so he should get him a couple of at bats against Wellemeyer.
I think I win.
If the Cardinals weren't trotting out the worst pitcher in the majors so far this season every fifth day, the Cubs wouldn't be in first.
The Red Sox can just go buy another pitcher; it's what they do.
Just got a call from a friend who lives in St. Louis. She has an extra front row ticket just passed 3rd base for Thursday night. I am going to the Cardinals vs Dodgers game for free! I cant effing wait. What a great week and a half this has been.
Buehrle has a perfect game through 5 against the Twins.
Quote from: Ty on July 28, 2009, 05:37:13 amThe Red Sox can just go buy another pitcher; it's what they do.
Really? Who was the last pitcher in the past few years we "bought"? Dice-K was signed to a nice contract before the '07 season. Who else are you even talking about with these big contracts?
Thank God for extra innings
He walked a guy with two outs in the 6th. Broke the record for consecutive perfect innings. And now he gave up a hit. What a streak tho.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on July 28, 2009, 08:44:46 pm
He walked a guy with two outs in the 6th. Broke the record for consecutive perfect innings. And now he gave up a hit. What a streak tho.
Now the Twins can go ahead and win it.
Buerhle goes from having a perfect game through 2 outs in the 6th, to knocked out of the game being down 4-1 in the 7th.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on July 28, 2009, 08:31:27 pm
Quote from: Ty on July 28, 2009, 05:37:13 amThe Red Sox can just go buy another pitcher; it's what they do.
Really? Who was the last pitcher in the past few years we "bought"? Dice-K was signed to a nice contract before the '07 season. Who else are you even talking about with these big contracts?
Please spare us the soliquouy about how the Red Sox don't try and buy their way into the World Series.
Off the top of my mind, Penny this season.
Let's try something else for once; name players on the Red Sox roster that they have drafted and developed. Good luck.
Christ Tony let Wainwright stay in there and get the complete game shutout. ITS FARKING 6-0!
Mark Loretta in to pitch now for the Dodgers LOLOLOLOL
Saw the Cardinals of tomorrow play the Travs last night. They are pitifull. Saw Memphis earlier in the year, they looked pretty good. They had better keep some of the Free Agents, I don't see much in the pipeline.
Quote from: Ty on July 28, 2009, 10:00:59 pmOff the top of my mind, Penny this season.
You're really reaching with Penny. My lord, it was an incentive-laden $5M deal for a guy coming off shoulder surgery who is our #5 starter. Not exactly what I would call attempting to buy our way to a World Series. That's it?
Quote from: Ty on July 28, 2009, 10:00:59 pmLet's try something else for once; name players on the Red Sox roster that they have drafted and developed. Good luck.
Ok.
You mean guys like AL MVP Dustin Pedroia? Kevin Youkilis? Jacoby Ellsbury? Jed Lowrie?
Or maybe you meant pitchers like Jon Lester, Jon Papelbon, Clay Buchholz, Daniel Bard, Justin Masterson, or Manny Delcarmen?
Is that enough for you?
Quote from: OlGuyWicker on July 29, 2009, 12:48:37 am
Saw the Cardinals of tomorrow play the Travs last night. They are pitifull. Saw Memphis earlier in the year, they looked pretty good. They had better keep some of the Free Agents, I don't see much in the pipeline.
I agree. I watched Springfield play Tulsa about a week ago and they were atrocious. I was hoping they just had a bad game.
That being said, I do like the potential of 24-year-old former Rice OF Tyler Henley, a lot. He's first on the team in hits, RBIs, and batting average; second in runs, doubles, triples, home runs, stolen bases; and has just a 43:28 strikeout:walk ratio.
Tony finally came to his senses yesterday. Mitchell Boggs will take Wellemeyer's start tomorrow. Sadly, Wellemeyer isn't being sent down, he's just going to the bullpen.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on July 29, 2009, 01:55:21 am
Quote from: Ty on July 28, 2009, 10:00:59 pmOff the top of my mind, Penny this season.
You're really reaching with Penny. My lord, it was an incentive-laden $5M deal for a guy coming off shoulder surgery who is our #5 starter. Not exactly what I would call attempting to buy our way to a World Series. That's it?
Quote from: Ty on July 28, 2009, 10:00:59 pmLet's try something else for once; name players on the Red Sox roster that they have drafted and developed. Good luck.
Ok.
You mean guys like AL MVP Dustin Pedroia? Kevin Youkilis? Jacoby Ellsbury? Jed Lowrie?
Or maybe you meant pitchers like Jon Lester, Jon Papelbon, Clay Buchholz, Daniel Bard, Justin Masterson, or Manny Delcarmen?
Is that enough for you?
Ty, you going to respond to this or not? Since apparently you don't believe we have much of a farm system and can draft/develop players?
Trades:
Tigers get: Jarrod Washburn
Mariners get: Luke French, Mauricio Robles
Cubs get: John Grabow, Tom Gorzelanny
Pirates get: Jose Ascanio, Kevin Hart, Josh Harrison
Giants get: Freddy Sanchez
Pirates get: Tim Alderson
Also, we're working pretty hard to aquire either Adrian Gonzalez or Victor Martinez. I expect we will end up getting one of those guys. I think we're probably out on Halladay. In the end I'm expecting Halladay to go to the Yankees at the very last minute.
Twins just got Orlando Cabrera and cash for prospect Tyler Ladendorf
Well I guess some collateral from all the Red Sox dealing has returned a former Brave back to Atlanta.
LaRouch to ATL and Kotchman to BOS. Kotchman is a very good defensive 1B and has not made an error this year or as a Brave counting the 40+ games last year.
Kotchmans bat just starting to come around, but Adam L was certainly solid as a Brave.
Interesting to me as I didn't expect the Braves to do much at the deadline. Of course, this wasn't 'much'. :)
Martinez to BOS
Nick Johnson to FL
Cards make no more moves
Rolen to the REDS
Biemel to COL
Hairston to NYY
Boston move still puzzling. With Victor Martinez(C, 1B) Varitek(C), Ortiz(DH), Youkilis, Kotchman(1B), Lowell(1B,3B) seems to be a lot of overlap there. Maybe a move left in them.
Peavy to the White Sox
Didn't have a chance to post this after the game last night. I think its so awesome that Wellenmeyer can now lose us games that he doesn't even start........ ::)
VMart! Woooo! :)
Man I'm so freaking pumped about this deal, as well as getting such a great glove in Kotchman to have off the bench. I CANNOT believe we got Victor Martinez without having to give up Clay Buchholz. I thought Buch was gone for sure. Pretty shocking. We really came out great in both these deals. It's awesome having flexibility now. Martinez can start at C, but we can always work Tek in there and still keep VMart's bat in the lineup by having him play 1B and moving Youk to 3rd, in the process resting Lowell.
I feel like we have a chance again. Several days ago I wasn't so confident.
Also I really enjoyed yelling at Manny from about 20 feet away for a good 15 minutes before the game last night.
You're in ATL? You dog.
STL heading to the 9th again with a small lead and Carpenter's pitch count is 102 or so. I swear is LaRussa pulls him again..
At this point the Cards appear to have an EPIC WIN in the Matt Holliday trade.
July 24 - 4 for 5, 1 RBI, 1 R, 1 2B, 1 SB (win 8-1)
July 25 - 2 for 4, 1 RBI, 1 BB, 1 R, 2 2B (loss 14-6)
July 26 - 1 for 2, 1 RBI, 1 BB, 1 2B (loss 9-2)
July 27 - 1 for 3, 1 RBI, 1 R, 1 2B, 1 BB (win 6-1)
July 28 - 1 for 3, 1 R, 1 BB (win 10-0)
July 29 - 2 for 5, 1 BB (win 3-2)
July 30 - 2 for 3, 1 HR, 2 RBI, 1BB, 1 R (loss 5-3)
July 31 - 4 for 4, 2 RBI, 1 R, 1 2B (win 4-3)
Aug 1 - 3 for 4, 2 HR, 2 RBI, 2 R (win 3-2)
So in his nine games with the Cardinals, Holliday is 20 for 33 (.606) with 10 RBIs, 3 home runs, 6 doubles, 8 runs, 6 walks, and a stolen base.
After today, they seem to be for sure.
Quote from: QF© on August 01, 2009, 08:27:07 pm
You're in ATL? You dog.
STL heading to the 9th again with a small lead and Carpenter's pitch count is 102 or so. I swear is LaRussa pulls him again..
No I was in St. Louis on Thursday night. I had some gems. Not sure they are suited for this site tho haha.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on August 01, 2009, 12:41:07 am
VMart! Woooo! :)
Man I'm so freaking pumped about this deal, as well as getting such a great glove in Kotchman to have off the bench. I CANNOT believe we got Victor Martinez without having to give up Clay Buchholz. I thought Buch was gone for sure. Pretty shocking. We really came out great in both these deals. It's awesome having flexibility now. Martinez can start at C, but we can always work Tek in there and still keep VMart's bat in the lineup by having him play 1B and moving Youk to 3rd, in the process resting Lowell.
I feel like we have a chance again. Several days ago I wasn't so confident.
The trade really didn't help the Sox at all.
http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/blog_article/how-much-better-does-victor-martinez-make-the-red-sox/
It allows us to sit Ortiz against tough lefties and still have a pretty good bat in the lineup. Also allows us to rest the old man and not really drop off much in the field.
Quote from: Ty on August 02, 2009, 01:31:43 pm
The trade really didn't help the Sox at all.
http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/blog_article/how-much-better-does-victor-martinez-make-the-red-sox/
Ty, Ty, Ty - you really don't watch the Red Sox that often do you?
Do you not understand the point of this trade, or do I need to explain it for you?
The Cubs got the matches out by allowing one run and then getting men on 2nd and 3rd while down two, but pull it out 4-2.
I hope SMC doesn't have high blood pressure this week.
They're lucky that they're playing my Reds right now. We have lost 13 of our last 14 and 7 straight. A little over a month ago we were about 6 games over .500 and tied for first in the NL Central. Now we're 15 games under .500 and last in the central. Also, leave it to the Reds to have a guy strike out 10 and not give him the support to win the game.
Quote from: Ken Griffey Jr. on August 03, 2009, 09:16:26 pmAlso, leave it to the Reds to have a guy strike out 10 and not give him the support to win the game.
Sounds like Lee with the Indians this year.
Quote from: RHS on August 03, 2009, 10:41:01 pm
Quote from: Ken Griffey Jr. on August 03, 2009, 09:16:26 pmAlso, leave it to the Reds to have a guy strike out 10 and not give him the support to win the game.
Sounds like Lee with the Indians this year.
Or Greinke with the Royals.
I just watched a 5 hour Red Sox game only to have Terry Francona decide it was a good idea to pitch to EVAN LONGORIA WITH 1ST BASE OPEN AND 2 OUTS. Is there anything less logical in the world we live in?
I give up. Wow.
Meanwhile, I watched the Cardinals pick up 2 in the top of the 9th to tie, then Pujols hit a slam in the top of the tenth to seal the deal.
How about Pujols this year with the bases loaded...
7/9, 5 HR's.
I'm intrigued by the Fielder story from Wed vs. LA.
^ I'm still not sure what the fuss is all about. Manny got thrown at, and Mota responded in kind. That's baseball. Unless there's something more to the story that I'm unaware of.
Quote from: Chief_Osceola™ on August 05, 2009, 11:45:27 pm
^ I'm still not sure what the fuss is all about. Manny got thrown at, and Mota responded in kind. That's baseball. Unless there's something more to the story that I'm unaware of.
Well, Prince did try to go past a security guard and get into the Dodgers clubhouse. They just showed the video on ESPN. Apparently he cussed 23 times because they said there was 23 bleeps after it was over. It wasn't exactly a video that will help Fielder's image.
Not only are we throwing out John Smoltz's corpse tonight against one of the top offenses in all of baseball, IN Yankee Stadium, Jason Bay is probably going to miss most of the series if not all. He may even be heading to the DL.
Going down in flames. This is such a 2006 redux.
I hope this a 2006 redux. ;D
I'm tired of throwing Smoltz out there. He's our Wang IMO.
Only the Yankees would throw at somebody's head in the 9th inning after having the game in hand in the 4th. That was bush league. And this time it wasn't even Joba's PA. I'm glad Pedroia kept his cool.
John Smoltz is a F'ing joke too. When will this old man realize he needs to retire?
Also, Andre Either just hit a walk off 3 run shot to beat the Braves 5-4.
That's his 5th walk off hit this season.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on August 07, 2009, 12:49:57 am
Only the Yankees would throw at somebody's head in the 9th inning after having the game in hand in the 4th.
Prince Fielder would like to point out that the Dodgers do too (I admit I don't know if that game was in the 9th or not, but they were up by a good margin).
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on August 07, 2009, 12:49:57 am
Only the Yankees would throw at somebody's head in the 9th inning after having the game in hand in the 4th. That was bush league. And this time it wasn't even Joba's PA. I'm glad Pedroia kept his cool.
John Smoltz is a F'ing joke too. When will this old man realize he needs to retire?
With Beckett on the mound tonight I am willing to bet Tex gets some chin music.
John Smoltz DFA'd
http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2009/08/smoltz_designat.html
It's sad to see a legend end his career looking so bad, but man it was time. In his place we called up Japanese pitcher Junichi Tazawa, a solid 23 year old prospect who has flown through our minor league system in his first season in the US. I'm excited to see how he does.
But you know, we can't draft or develop talent. Every player we have is BOUGHT. Right Ty?
Should I drop Smoltz now? ;D
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on August 07, 2009, 04:46:47 pm
John Smoltz DFA'd
http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2009/08/smoltz_designat.html
It's sad to see a legend end his career looking so bad, but man it was time. In his place we called up Japanese pitcher Junichi Tazawa, a solid 23 year old prospect who has flown through our minor league system in his first season in the US. I'm excited to see how he does.
But you know, we can't draft or develop talent. Every player we have is BOUGHT. Right Ty?
You didn't draft him, or develop him. You bought him from Japan.
Good job.
Quote from: Ty on August 07, 2009, 08:36:52 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on August 07, 2009, 04:46:47 pm
John Smoltz DFA'd
http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2009/08/smoltz_designat.html
It's sad to see a legend end his career looking so bad, but man it was time. In his place we called up Japanese pitcher Junichi Tazawa, a solid 23 year old prospect who has flown through our minor league system in his first season in the US. I'm excited to see how he does.
But you know, we can't draft or develop talent. Every player we have is BOUGHT. Right Ty?
You didn't draft him, or develop him. You bought him from Japan.
Good job.
Yes, Tazawa was signed from Japan. That is correct. And he took less money to pitch for Boston.
QuoteThough Tazawa was courted by several teams and offered more money by at least one - the Texas Rangers - the pitcher reportedly was interested in pitching for the Sox. Team officials have been scouting Tazawa for more than a year after having made major inroads in the Japan talent pool with the signings of Daisuke Matsuzaka and Hideki Okajima during the 2006-07 offseason.
I can see where you thought I was referring to Tazawa being drafted (my bad on clarification). However, I was attempting to refer to your initial "challenge" to name Red Sox players we drafted and developed - the one you basically evaded when I put clear evidence in front of your face?
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on July 29, 2009, 01:55:21 am
Quote from: Ty on July 28, 2009, 10:00:59 pmLet's try something else for once; name players on the Red Sox roster that they have drafted and developed. Good luck.
Ok.
You mean guys like AL MVP Dustin Pedroia? Kevin Youkilis? Jacoby Ellsbury? Jed Lowrie?
Or maybe you meant pitchers like Jon Lester, Jon Papelbon, Clay Buchholz, Daniel Bard, Justin Masterson, or Manny Delcarmen?
Is that enough for you?
Keith Law has Boston as the #7 farm system in baseball. If a team is ranked 7th, obviously they have a fairly good idea on how to draft/develop players right? Ya know, drafted/developed players is what brought us Victor Martinez?
By the way, if you want to see some good baseball, go to this site and click on the Red Sox and Yankees game. It's 0-0 in the 11th. Papelbon just K'd Jeter with the winning run on 3rd.
http://atdhe.net/
Or you can switch back and forth on Extra Innings if you are watching the ATL/LA game like me. :)
QF, you know I'm on Extra Innings.
My mental health is in jeapordy here. This is a season-defining game.
0-0, 1 down, bottom 12. Gulp.
I'm so sick of umpires.
We're getting squeezed.
A-Rod pops up to end the 13th. Going to the 14th, 0-0!!
Victor Martinez just hit one that died at the track in right.
Tazawa makes his MLB debut in about as pressure packed of a situation as possible. Bottom of the 14th in a Sox/Yankees game in a 0-0 game. Runners on 1st and 2nd only 1 out for the Yankees.
WOW!! J.D. Drew just made an amazing lunging grab in right to save the game, for now.
I have no words...this is in incredible game. Melky just missed a walk-off hit by inches. It was BARELY foul.
Tazawa gets out of the jam by striking out Cabrera. Going to the 15th.
ARE YOU KIDDING ME JD DREW IS THE F'ING MAN HOLY FREAKING CRAP
TAZAWA = BALLS
A-Rod with the walk off 2 run homer.
I'm going to help you Red Sox fans out and post their consecutive scoreless inning streak is now at 30 (through the 6th) in the Sunday night game vs. NYY. Prepare for the reverse mojo to work soon as they attempt to break yet another 0-0 tie.
Unreal meltdown for the Sox. Hard to believe.
A-Rod just broke the scoreless tie, again, in the 7th inning with a solo HR.
Uncanny.
The Sox finally ended their scoreless drought off a 2 run homer by Victor Martinez. Sox up 2-1 in the top of the 8th with a runner on 1st and 1 out.
All Red Sox fans make your checks payable to:
QF's paypal account.
Damon and Tex just went back-to-back off Bard to give the Yankees a 3-2 lead with two out in the bottom of the 8th. Two out rally.
Yep, the new Yankee Stadium shows it's head with a flurry of HR's. Must have ran out of those balls that were in the humidifier.
That Tex HR was basically an entire representation of the HR possibilities in that park.
Cardinals win again :)
Quote from: RHS on August 09, 2009, 11:53:57 pm
That Tex HR was basically an entire representation of the HR possibilities in that park.
He hit it a mile high, and in a lot of parks that would have been a routine pop up for the right fielder, however it got up in that ridiculous Yankee Stadium stream and carried out.
And the bizarro highlight of the day goes to Shane Victorino, for getting thrown out of a game while playing center field by the home plate upmire.
Quote from: AB™ on August 10, 2009, 12:22:59 am
Quote from: RHS on August 09, 2009, 11:53:57 pm
That Tex HR was basically an entire representation of the HR possibilities in that park.
He hit it a mile high, and in a lot of parks that would have been a routine pop up for the right fielder, however it got up in that ridiculous Yankee Stadium stream and carried out.
Exactly. They talked about it hanging up there forever and it dropped into the 2nd deck. Anywhere else and it's an out, inning over, Sox still in it, not melting down.
Who is the hottest team in the majors you ask!?
The Washington Nationals!
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With the combined efforts of Adam "Big Donkey" Dunn, Josh "Hammer" Willingham", Willie "Utility" Harris, and Nyjer "Tony Plush" Morgan, the Washington Nationals have won eight games in a row and now only lead the Race for the #1 Pick by 3.5 games over the Royals and 5.5 games over the Pirates!
Anyone checked on Josh today? The last words he said to me were "FML, I'm going to hang myself." LOL
Quote from: jbell96 on August 10, 2009, 11:24:33 am
Anyone checked on Josh today? The last words he said to me were "FML, I'm going to hang myself." LOL
I sent out an FML, but nothing else to it.
That game last night sucked. The whole series sucked. Everything since the AS break has sucked.
Hm, honestly, before last night, I didn't know there was an MLB thread.
By the way, due to family and only starting to watch MLB back in 2005, I am a... Oh gosh... I can't say it...
Washington Nationals Fan.
The White Sox claimed Alex Rios off waivers from the Blue Jays.
LaRussa really leaves me scratching my head sometimes. Lohse has/had gone 6 strong innings with just 82 pitches. We just scored two in the bottom half to make it 4-1 & Tony lifts him for a pinch hitter.
He's so consistent with that train of thought too. He obviously believes in it.
I don't have much to say other than Jason Motte sucks.
lolol
Motte doesn't give up that run in the 8th we're still playing right now.
EDIT:
Nevermind, Linecum blew the lead himself. My anger is now properly directed towards the Giants offense. ;D
Welcome back Jason Bay. So far in this series with the Tigers: 4-8, 3 HR, 6 RBI.
Nice to see the Sox have some life this week.
I know he got suspended for 5 games, but maybe Youk charging the mound was what the Sox needed.
LOLZ at the Cubs tonight.
Griffey with a walk-off pinch hit single in the bottom of the 14th for the Mariners to get a 1-0 win!!!
Quote from: dc24 on August 13, 2009, 02:53:53 am
Griffey with a walk-off pinch hit single in the bottom of the 14th for the Mariners to get a 1-0 win!!!
Is that two in one series for him?
Quote from: jbell96 on August 12, 2009, 06:19:07 pm
EDIT:
Nevermind, Lincecum blew the lead himself. My anger is now properly directed towards the Giants offense. ;D
EDIT #2: Lincecum didn't blow the lead, the ump blew the call at 1st on Furcal who ended up scoring the tying run. What is with umps blowing calls at 1st that tick me off. Don Denkinger lives. LOL
How about Tony answering his phone during his press conf? Made me laugh.
Rangers take the series from Cleveland with a 4-1 victory.
If Detroit can hold on against Boston, it sets up a huge series starting tomorrow in Arlington with Texas only 1/2 a game behind the BoSox for the Wild Card.
The Rangers pitching is looking nasty. They lead the AL in ERA since the All-Star Break.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on August 13, 2009, 03:07:32 am
Quote from: dc24 on August 13, 2009, 02:53:53 am
Griffey with a walk-off pinch hit single in the bottom of the 14th for the Mariners to get a 1-0 win!!!
Is that two in one series for him?
No, he did have a 2 RBI single in the first game though, but it just gave us a lead at the time.
Cubs lose...........again. They didn't even wait until September to start choking. It's Christmas come early. :)
Quote from: jbell96 on August 13, 2009, 06:18:39 pm
Cubs lose...........again. They didn't even wait until September to start choking. It's Christmas come early. :)
I like to think me sitting in Wrigley wearing a Cardinal hat had something to do with it. :)
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on August 13, 2009, 11:53:13 pm
Quote from: jbell96 on August 13, 2009, 06:18:39 pm
Cubs lose...........again. They didn't even wait until September to start choking. It's Christmas come early. :)
I like to think me sitting in Wrigley wearing a Cardinal hat had something to do with it. :)
I don't even want to imagine all the possibilities...of all the damage that can come from this scenario. :P ::)
The mute button was invented for games when Joe Morgan and Tim McCarver are in the booth.
That is all.
Another day & another win for Adam Wainwright. Now leading the NL in wins with 14 after the Cards roughed up Mat Latos tonight.
Quote from: Ty on August 02, 2009, 01:31:43 pmThe trade really didn't help the Sox at all.
http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/blog_article/how-much-better-does-victor-martinez-make-the-red-sox/
Martinez had a great AB and drove in the go ahead runs with 2 outs in the 9th at Texas tonight to propel us to a HUGE win. But you're right, the trade didn't help us at all.
Quote from: jbell96 on August 14, 2009, 10:40:01 pm
Another day & another win for Adam Wainwright. Now leading the NL in wins with 14 after the Cards roughed up Mat Latos tonight.
Latos will be a Cy Young Candidate. Mark my words.
Quote from: RGP on August 14, 2009, 10:44:12 am
The mute button was invented for games when Joe Morgan and Tim McCarver are in the booth.
That is all.
Tim McCarver is the only reason I was ever a Dion Sanders fan.
http://www.shutuptimmccarver.com/
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on August 15, 2009, 01:40:55 am
Quote from: jbell96 on August 14, 2009, 10:40:01 pm
Another day & another win for Adam Wainwright. Now leading the NL in wins with 14 after the Cards roughed up Mat Latos tonight.
Latos will be a Cy Young Candidate. Mark my words.
Oh there is no doubt about that, I just loved the fact that we knocked him around last night.
Lots of violence today. Kuroda(line drive off the head), Wright(beaned in the head) and Kinsler(beaned too) all happened today. All 3 seem to be realitively alright.
2 of those 3 on my starting roster today combined with the rainout was a bust fantasywise.
However, I'll take the Braves win that was essentially handed to them in the 9th. I'll call it even.
Molina stopped a 2 out bases loaded rally by picking off a Padre on first.
There is not a Catcher in the game that is close to what he does behind the plate.
8 SB's tonight for TX vs. Boston. Boston looked...I'll just say 'not good'. Defensive lapses. They are just spooked right now.
Quote from: OlGuyWicker on August 15, 2009, 10:54:40 pm
Molina stopped a 2 out bases loaded rally by picking off a Padre on first.
There is not a Catcher in the game that is close to what he does behind the plate.
A nice play for sure. McCann ended a game the other night with a snap throw to first to pick off the runner and end the game. Funny to see the game end that way. 2 on 2 out batter at the plate with a count on him and WHAM, out at first and game over. Wonder how ofter that occurs?
Quote from: jbell96 on August 15, 2009, 04:47:13 pm
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on August 15, 2009, 01:40:55 am
Quote from: jbell96 on August 14, 2009, 10:40:01 pm
Another day & another win for Adam Wainwright. Now leading the NL in wins with 14 after the Cards roughed up Mat Latos tonight.
Latos will be a Cy Young Candidate. Mark my words.
Oh there is no doubt about that, I just loved the fact that we knocked him around last night.
I saw Latos earlier this season when he was still in AA.
The kid looks like he could be a starting power forward forward in the NBA.
I'll admit it. I've been completely wrong on my Holliday assumptions thus far.
Quote from: QF© on August 15, 2009, 10:56:24 pm
8 SB's tonight for TX vs. Boston. Boston looked...I'll just say 'not good'. Defensive lapses. They are just spooked right now.
That would be a combination of Brad Penny taking forever to get to the plate, as well as Jason Varitek's high school throwing arm. We're used to it by now.
I agree, but the reality of 8 was hideous.
Nationals win a third in a row and 11th of the last 14.
You all wish you were us... :D
Rangers take 2 of 3 (and 7 of 9) from Boston. Unfortunately for them, the Angels keep right on winning.
Colby Rasmus hits a walk-off two-run HR in the 9th off Heath Bell, Cardinals win 7-5!!!
Cards were down 5-4 headed into the 9th, but Molina drove in Ludwick to tie it up and then Rasmus completed the comeback.
BOOSH!
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Quote from: ppop on August 16, 2009, 05:09:16 pm
Rangers take 2 of 3 (and 7 of 9) from Boston. Unfortunately for them, the Angels keep right on winning.
I think that Texas will be happy if they pull of the wildcard, forget about the divsion.
Pics from the Cubs v. Phillies game we went to last week:
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2123192&id=55000041&l=cec25f0a9e
Steven Strasburg has to be signed by midnight tonight. Will Washington get it done?
All I have to say is, Tommy Hanson...kid is ridiculous.
Today - 6.0 IP, 6 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 7 SO, 0 BB
Season - 13 starts, 79.2 IP, 73 H, 28 R, 27 ER, 62 SO, 29 BB, 1.28 WHIP, 3.05 ERA, .244 OBA
He's only 22, barring some unforseeable injury, or zero progression, we may have the best young pitcher in baseball in Atlanta. He and Happ are 1a and 1b, right now, IMO. The only reason I would take Hanson over Happ is because Hanson is 4 years younger than Happ.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on August 17, 2009, 02:08:17 pm
Steven Strasburg has to be signed by midnight tonight. Will Washington get it done?
(http://site.despair.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/hope.jpg)
In all seriousness, I think it gets done for right above 20 million, but I'm not sure. It wouldn't be utterly devastating if he didn't considering we have nothing to lose, but it would be a great push in the right direction if we do get it done. I say give the kid his money... I think he will win multipe Cy Youngs. He's so awesome.
NationalsForum.net just crashed... At about 11:57.
Craaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaap.
Need to throw up.
Carpenter is just flat out nasty
Strausburg signs a four year 15.67 million dollar deal at the last minute.
http://espn.go.com/mlb/
Now, question is, how soon will he be in a Nationals uniform?
AB, he signed a major league deal which is kind of worrisome on how to get him some minors action and stuff... I would like to see him maybe get some relief innings and then send him down to the minors. I think they want to shut him down due to innings.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on August 17, 2009, 11:11:00 pm
Carpenter is just flat out nasty
Yet Tony takes him out. I know we won, but the wind saved Franklin on Blake's fly ball. Good win tonight for the Cards.
(http://static.guim.co.uk/Guardian/sport/gallery/2008/nov/11/cricket/GD9545179@Workers-watch-smoke-b-8935.jpg)
Padres hit a 3-run walkoff home run in the ninth off of...wait for it...Kevin Gregg!
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on August 17, 2009, 11:59:46 pm
(http://static.guim.co.uk/Guardian/sport/gallery/2008/nov/11/cricket/GD9545179@Workers-watch-smoke-b-8935.jpg)
Padres hit a 3-run walkoff home run in the ninth off of...wait for it...Kevin Gregg!
EPIC
WIN!
The funny thing about "Gascan" Gregg is that he is the BETTER of the two closer options. Hahahahahahahahahahaha
Kevin Gregg...what a terrible investment that was.
I can hear Ryan cursing from Cabot/LR
Quote from: RHS on August 18, 2009, 12:39:27 am
I can hear Ryan cursing from Cabot/LR
He's just getting a return on all the crap he's given Cardinal fans about Izzy over the past few years. :)
I've said it earlier in the season but I will say it again. Gregg is my favorite player this season.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
250 pound Kyle Blanks (who hit the walk off agianst Gregg last night) just hit an inside the park 2 run HR against the Cubs in the 8th. I may have a new favorite non-Cardinal.
Its official, Smoltz is a Cardinal:
http://stlouis.cardinals.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090819&content_id=6502178&vkey=news_stl&fext=.jsp&c_id=stl
If I were a Cardinals fan, I'd be praying very heavily that Tony doesn't use him as a starter.
At least he's out of the AL East and back in the NL so he won't be facing lineups as dangerous and deep as what he faced while with the Red Sox.
Quote from: AB™ on August 19, 2009, 02:54:33 pm
If I were a Cardinals fan, I'd be praying very heavily that Tony doesn't use him as a starter.
At least he's out of the AL East and back in the NL so he won't be facing lineups as dangerous and deep as what he faced while with the Red Sox.
I agree 100%. An article on sportsline said he would be the #5 starter, but there wasn't a quote from Tony or Dave Duncan. He goes to the pen & we're good to go.
Starting Sunday it appears.
Crap. I guess one or two starts won't kill us. I'm just worried about his confidence if he starts, gets rocked, then has to go to the pen.
Like I've said he cant be any worse than the #5 guys we have thrown out there in the last month and a half.
Quote from: AB™ on August 19, 2009, 02:54:33 pmAt least he's out of the AL East and back in the NL so he won't be facing lineups as dangerous and deep as what he faced while with the Red Sox.
If John Smoltz suddenly becomes a good pitcher again, that will look pretty bad for the NL.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on August 19, 2009, 07:05:56 pm
Like I've said he cant be any worse than the #5 guys we have thrown out there in the last month and a half.
Oh but it can. I'd take Wellemeyer and Co. any day of the week over John Smoltz's corpse.
It wont look bad for the NL. Everyone agrees that the AL East is the best division in the league so getting out of that division will help. It will just be another case of Duncan taking a struggling pitcher and making him into a solid pitcher again.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on August 19, 2009, 09:06:37 pm
It will just be another case of Duncan taking a struggling pitcher and making him into a solid pitcher again.
I don't know how many times I've said that to people. Dave Duncan = MAGICIAN!!
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on August 19, 2009, 08:26:17 pm
Quote from: AB™ on August 19, 2009, 02:54:33 pmAt least he's out of the AL East and back in the NL so he won't be facing lineups as dangerous and deep as what he faced while with the Red Sox.
If John Smoltz suddenly becomes a good pitcher again, that will look pretty bad for the NL.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on August 19, 2009, 07:05:56 pm
Like I've said he cant be any worse than the #5 guys we have thrown out there in the last month and a half.
Oh but it can. I'd take Wellemeyer and Co. any day of the week over John Smoltz's corpse.
You said the same thing about Julio Lugo's corpse. And I'm liking his fit with us. Appearantly if anyone plays for the BoxSux and at any point in their life plays for the Cardinals they're a washed up rotting corpse. I think Smolts will be a good fit, and if getting out of the AL East makes it easier for ANY pitcher, then lucky for them that they go out haha.
All Smoltzy needed was to get away from that obnoxious Boston fan base & get to the team with the best fans in baseball. ;D
Agreed!
Quote from: rabs_fan4life on August 19, 2009, 09:35:30 pmAppearantly if anyone plays for the BoxSux and at any point in their life plays for the Cardinals they're a washed up rotting corpse.
2-5, an ERA of
8.32!!, 37 ER in 40 IP, a WHIP of 1.7!!!! BAA of .343
That makes him a rotting corpse.
His era in his first two innings of his starts is 0.61.
Bullpen, Tony. Come on.
Cardinals took 2 of 3 from the Dodgers in LA. We are 5-2 against them this season. All of them with Manny.
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on August 19, 2009, 11:45:58 pm
His era in his first two innings of his starts is 0.61.
Bullpen, Tony. Come on.
Tobin, you're pleading with a man who still thinks it's a good idea to let Jason Motte pitch.
Smoltz will get two starts & then they'll re-evaluate the situation. Sounds like a plan to me. We have a six game lead so we can afford to let Smoltz go out there a few times.
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/stories.nsf/cardinals/story/F303580076CFA869862576180012A27A?OpenDocument
BRENDAN RYAN!!!!!!
Hits a grandslam to give Piniero a 4-0 lead in the 2nd.
Molina throws out yet another trying to steal on him.
Cards 5, Padres 1
Dodgers 7, Cubs 2 in the ninth
Cardinals fourth team to 70 wins (behind the Yankees, Angels, and Dodgers.)
(http://www.circusoflife.com/2012/Clipart/lunch_box/7_slot_machine_200.jpg)
And keeping with the 7 pattern that is exactly the number of games the Cubs are behind us right now. :)
Hey guys. I'm new to the forum. I've been reading the boards for a few weeks now, and I finally decided to create an account.
I see that there's quite a few Cardinals fans here, but who are some other teams people are fans of on here?
Mostly Cardinals fans (Amen), but there's a few Braves fans and Cubs fans (3 or 4 of each), two Red Sox supporters, one Twins guy, a Nationals follower, one Mariner, a Red, um...am I missing anyone?
It's good to know there's people on here with common sense. ;D I HATE the Cardinals with a passion.
The '06 World Series didn't really help matters.
Quote from: CP88 on August 21, 2009, 12:56:18 amI see that there's quite a few Cardinals fans here, but who are some other teams people are fans of on here?
Red Sox - myself, RHS, CHSBISON
Blue Jays - redwolf
Twins - rsvl_hogfan
Tigers - CP88
Mariners - dc24
Braves - AB, QF
Cubs - SMC, Jaques Grande, Chris Murphy
Cardinals - the majority
Reds - Ken Griffey, Jr
Nationals - Smithian
I might be missing a few, but we have a pretty wide variety of different teams.
Quote from: CP88 on August 21, 2009, 12:56:18 am
Hey guys. I'm new to the forum. I've been reading the boards for a few weeks now, and I finally decided to create an account.
I see that there's quite a few Cardinals fans here, but who are some other teams people are fans of on here?
welcome :)
PS don't drink the water
someone urinated in it ;)
Quote from: Indiana Jones on August 21, 2009, 10:18:38 am
Quote from: CP88 on August 21, 2009, 12:56:18 am
Hey guys. I'm new to the forum. I've been reading the boards for a few weeks now, and I finally decided to create an account.
I see that there's quite a few Cardinals fans here, but who are some other teams people are fans of on here?
welcome :)
PS don't drink the water
someone urinated in it ;)
I accuse the Bloody Sox fans
Quote from: CP88 on August 21, 2009, 01:20:38 am
It's good to know there's people on here with common sense. ;D I HATE the Cardinals with a passion.
You had me at hello.
Its easy to hate a winner.
Billy Wagner to the Sox?
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4415035
Can't get there fast enough. I just saw the number 20 on a scoreboard.
Wow, that's more teams supported than I would have thought. That leads me to this question. Excluding geographical location reasons, StL and Atlanta, how did you choose your team?
I became a Tigers fan through my grandpa. I can still remember him taking me to Tiger Stadium in it's last year of existence.
Well I'm a 4th generation (as far as I know at least) Cardinal fan. My great grandpa is in his 90's and still watches every game. He cant remember their names so he knows them by their numbers and I watch games with him on occasion. So its pretty much in the blood of my family to be a Cardinals fan.
My like for the Braves doesn't come from a regional thing because Atlanta is like 14 or 15 hours from here. Really, the reason I like the Braves goes back to my first real baseball memory was when I was 8 watching the '95 World Series and I remember the Dave Justice HR in game 6 that was the only run of the game. I remember Andruw Jones's 2 HR's a year later in the '96 World Series as a teenager. Other than that, the only other reason I know I liked them before '95 when I was even younger, is me having a John Smoltz baseball card and for some reason it was my favorite card. I was 5 or 6 so I guess I don't really need a reason.
The first baseball game I ever went to was a Rangers game when I was 1 or 2, so I obviously don't remember the actual game, but I do have pictures to prove it. For the longest time growing up the Braves were 1a and the Rangers were 1b. I still like the Rangers and Royals quite a bit.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on August 22, 2009, 12:59:07 am
Well I'm a 4th generation (as far as I know at least) Cardinal fan. My great grandpa is in his 90's and still watches every game. He cant remember their names so he knows them by their numbers and I watch games with him on occasion. So its pretty much in the blood of my family to be a Cardinals fan.
Same here...I was born and raised to love the Cardinals. Kind of the same as being born and raised a Razorback! Except I'm only a 3rd generation fan in my family I believe. My grandpa enjoys watching all sports, and his favorite baseball team was always the Cardinals. Thats how he raised my dad, well my dad took his love of baseball/softball to another level and it is pretty much the air we breathe in our house (well at least my dad, myself, and my brother...my mom has always hated it.) Our house is on the grounds of an old softball complex my family use to own decades ago. The Cardinals continued to be my dad's favorite team through out his life and then he raised me and my brother watching them. As far back as my memories go I have always loved the Cardinals. Some of my favorite times have been my grandpa, my dad, myself, and my brother all watching games together. We use to go to STL at least once a summer and go watch them. I haven't been now in 2 years and am itching to get back. I'd live there if I could...just to get the chance to watch them all the time. So I never really "jumped on any cardinal bandwagon" as so many fans around here are always accused of...and it really doesn't have much to do with geographic location. To me...it's just a matter of how I was raised. I like watching other teams as well...I always had a liking for the Diamondbacks (when they weren't playing the Cardinals of cousre) when I was a youngin because I always LOVED watching Rany Johnson. He's always been a favorite of mine! But no one can compare to my Redbirds!!
Welcome to the board, and just get use to the STL support...it's pretty much the majority with a mix of others thrown in here an there. You'll have to look past all the pesky BoSux fans...they get a little bit delirious at times.
Some of my earliest memories are watching Cardinals games with my grandpa, especially Cubs games with Harry Caray on the call. Ozzie Smith and Willie McGee were my first heroes. I've followed them ever since and can name almost every single Cardinal player since the late 1980s. Some I have an extreme fondness for, such as Ray Lankford and John Mabry. Others I get angry just thinking about them, like Andres Galaraga and Royce Clayton. But regardless, the one constant throughout my life has been watching the Cardinals and talking about them with my grandpa. He's also told me all about stories and players he remembers, like Kenny Boyer, Red Schoendienst, and Enos Slaughter.
I have favourite teams in a bunch of sports. Oklahoma and Louisville, Liverpool, etc. However, none of them will ever mean as much to me as the Cardinals do, even if baseball isn't my favourite or even second favourite sport.
I've been a Cardinals fan since I was 6. My first game at Busch saw the Cardinals beat the Braves 7-4. Don't remember who pitched, but 1B David Green hit an inside the park home run. Pretty rare occurance for a 1st game attended. I've been hooked ever since.
Chris Carpenter is the best pitcher in baseball.
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on August 22, 2009, 10:41:57 pm
Chris Carpenter is the best pitcher in baseball.
Tim Lincecum and Roy Halladay say hi.
When he's healthy I'd take Carp over anyone.
Meanwhile, the Natural just homered as a pinch hitter. 6-0 Cardinals in the 8th.
(http://cdn.bleacherreport.com/images_root/image_pictures/0276/4329/rick_ankiel_feature.jpg)
Atta boy Ricky!!
Look at the lineup Lincecum has supporting him, and look at the division Halladay has pitched in for his entire career. I'm not saying Carp wouldn't be dominant in similar situations because I think he could. However, I'd take Halladay over anyone for the simple fact that he's pitched an extremely high level in the AL East for a while now.
Lincecum doing what he does for the Giants and their great run support is amazing.
Always a Card fan, went to a game as a yongster. Bob Forsch got the win. Lou Brock stole a base. Ted Simmons was just a few feet short of a Grand Slam. I was wanting to see Al Harbosky pitch, but it was a blow out 12-7 so that didn't happen.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on August 21, 2009, 10:08:05 am
Quote from: CP88 on August 21, 2009, 12:56:18 amI see that there's quite a few Cardinals fans here, but who are some other teams people are fans of on here?
Red Sox - myself, RHS, CHSBISON
Blue Jays - redwolf
Twins - rsvl_hogfan
Tigers - CP88
Mariners - dc24
Braves - AB, QF
Cubs - SMC, Jaques Grande, Chris Murphy
Cardinals - the majority
Reds - Ken Griffey, Jr
Nationals - Smithian
I might be missing a few, but we have a pretty wide variety of different teams.
Do I win the award for saddest fanhood?
Quote from: AB™ on August 22, 2009, 11:12:55 pm
Look at the division Halladay has pitched in for his entire career. I'm not saying Carp wouldn't be dominant in similar situations because I think he could. However, I'd take Halladay over anyone for the simple fact that he's pitched an extremely high level in the AL East for a while now.
Yep. When it comes down to something like Roy Halladay pitching in the AL East vs Chris Carpenter pitching in the NL (regardless of the division), I'm taking Halladay every time.
Quote from: Smithian on August 22, 2009, 11:39:01 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on August 21, 2009, 10:08:05 am
Quote from: CP88 on August 21, 2009, 12:56:18 amI see that there's quite a few Cardinals fans here, but who are some other teams people are fans of on here?
Red Sox - myself, RHS, CHSBISON
Blue Jays - redwolf
Twins - rsvl_hogfan
Tigers - CP88
Mariners - dc24
Braves - AB, QF
Cubs - SMC, Jaques Grande, Chris Murphy
Cardinals - the majority
Reds - Ken Griffey, Jr
Nationals - Smithian
I might be missing a few, but we have a pretty wide variety of different teams.
Do I win the award for saddest fanhood?
I give you the courage award. I think it's pretty cool for someone to pick the Nationals as their favorite MLB team. What was your reasoning behind that again?
I only started even caring about MLB around four years ago and I am die hard Redskins fan and partial Capitals follower, and considering I had no connection to any other team out there, I decided to follow the Washington team. Therefore, I am a Washington Nationals fan.
In two or three years, the Nationals' Opening Day battery could feature Strasberg and Harper. I'd say help is definitely on the way.
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on August 22, 2009, 11:10:27 pm
Meanwhile, the Natural just homered as a pinch hitter. 6-0 Cardinals in the 8th.
Did I say eight?
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_g5XxDt1ybS8/SDy-3TLF4qI/AAAAAAAAAN8/D3HFbLrxJDk/s400/eight.jpg)
With the Cubs' loss and Cardinals' win, the Redbirds now lead the Central by eight games, the largest division lead in all of MLB.
Quote from: CP88 on August 23, 2009, 12:00:00 am
In two or three years, the Nationals' Opening Day battery could feature Strasberg and Harper. I'd say help is definitely on the way.
They also need to lock up Nyjer Morgan long term. If they get the worst record in baseball again next year and get Harper, they'd still need to have a decent lineup to put around him and Zimmerman.
There's still a ton of question marks on their pitching staff.
Quote from: Smithian on August 22, 2009, 11:52:49 pm
I only started even caring about MLB around four years ago and I am die hard Redskins fan and partial Capitals follower, and considering I had no connection to any other team out there, I decided to follow the Washington team. Therefore, I am a Washington Nationals fan.
Just go ahead and jump on the Wizards and you're good to go.
Quote from: Chief_Osceola™ on July 23, 2009, 03:52:56 pmBTW, speaking of the Sox, Josh, Kirk, you both will be happy to know that Pedroia is now my son's favorite player.
Forgot to respond to this, but what brought this on? I knew he was a good kid. Solid choice.
Chief, who is your team?
Quote from: Smithian on August 22, 2009, 11:52:49 pm
I only started even caring about MLB around four years ago and I am die hard Redskins fan and partial Capitals follower, and considering I had no connection to any other team out there, I decided to follow the Washington team. Therefore, I am a Washington Nationals fan.
Are you a Washington Generals fan also?? Just wondering.
Go Globetrotters!
I think everyone discounting Carpenter is letting their dislike of the Cardinals cloud their judgement. He missed a month of the season & he's tied for league lead in wins. He'd easily be on pace for 20 if the injury didn't happen. Until the Holliday trade, the Cardinal offense was avereage at best so I don't want to hear about Lincecum's lack of support.
lol Mets
Oliver Perez's line today: 0.2 IP, 4 H, 6 ER, 2 BB, 2 HR, 0 K
After giving up two 3 run homers, Perez went 3-0 on Pedro and got pulled. Money well spent.
Carp has given up more than 3 runs in only two games.
The Cy Young discussion should be Haren, Lincecum, Carpenter, and Wainwright.
Pujols, Rasmus, Schumaker, and Ludwick have all actually hit worse since the Holliday trade. If they get back on track...
Quote from: jbell96 on August 23, 2009, 11:45:17 am
I think everyone discounting Carpenter is letting their dislike of the Cardinals cloud their judgement. He missed a month of the season & he's tied for league lead in wins. He'd easily be on pace for 20 if the injury didn't happen. Until the Holliday trade, the Cardinal offense was avereage at best so I don't want to hear about Lincecum's lack of support.
The Giants are 26th in runs scored this year. Cardinals are 16th.
I think Carp is a good pitcher, one of those you can always talk about in the top 5 of who's the best, but Lincecum is doing it with Benjie freaking Molina hitting clean up. Their lineup is trash.
It's the cool thing to support Lincecum.
If Carpenter was wearing a Red Sox uniform we wouldn't hear the end of how great he is.
Quote from: RHS on August 23, 2009, 02:56:02 pm
Quote from: jbell96 on August 23, 2009, 11:45:17 am
I think everyone discounting Carpenter is letting their dislike of the Cardinals cloud their judgement. He missed a month of the season & he's tied for league lead in wins. He'd easily be on pace for 20 if the injury didn't happen. Until the Holliday trade, the Cardinal offense was avereage at best so I don't want to hear about Lincecum's lack of support.
The Giants are 26th in runs scored this year. Cardinals are 16th.
I think Carp is a good pitcher, one of those you can always talk about in the top 5 of who's the best, but Lincecum is doing it with Benjie freaking Molina hitting clean up. Their lineup is trash.
and Halladay is doing it with Kevin #heck%$%&# Millar!!!
MILLAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on August 23, 2009, 05:15:47 pm
MILLAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!
Dont tell me: You thought he was dead...
Quote from: jbell96 on August 23, 2009, 04:44:05 pm
If Carpenter was wearing a Red Sox uniform we wouldn't hear the end of how great he is.
Didn't I just say he was a guy you can always have in the top 5 when you're talking about who's the best pitcher?
I guess I could go the other way and say if he wasn't a Cardinal people wouldn't be acting like he was being ignored/dissed. ;)
Carpenter has a WHIP under 1.00 as a starter. That doesn't happen very often. Remember, most of his wins this season came with what many of you said was one extremely pathetic offense outside of Pujols.
This strikeout difference in favor of Lincecum is pretty huge.
In my opinion, Wainwright and Haren are out of the discussion for NL Cy Young. It'll come down to CArp and Linc.
But, those two will share votes with Wainwright and Matt Cain. So, Haren or Johnson (from the Marlins) may slide in a nab it.
Strikeouts are overrated. Just ask Dave Duncan.
Oh, I know he's alive and well.
But to be fair, the Jays have much more efficient offensive threats (Hill, Scutaro, etc.)
Smoltz 5 innings 9 K's 3 hits. Word.
I think Carp will either win the Cy Young or finish second. I'm not trying to say he isn't a good pitcher, because this year he's proven, when healthy, he is a top 3-5 pitcher in baseball. However, I'd take Halladay and Lincecum over Carp. Halladay is my #1 due to the fact that he has arguably been the best pitcher in baseball the last 5 or 6 years while pitching in the best division in baseball. I have a feeling if he came to NL he'd put historic seasonal numbers. He more or less dominates some of the best lineups in baseball year in and year out with an offense that has been hit or miss throughout his career.
Also, I feel like you've got to throw in Johan in there somewhere. I'd be tempted to even take him ahead of Carp, but then again Carpenter is putting up great numbers this year, even though he missed a month of the season. I know it's easy to say Carpenter is the best pitcher in baseball when he's healthy, but that's the problem, he can't stay healthy. That's what is ultimately going to keep him out of the HOF.
Right now, if I had a Cy Young vote, here's how I'd vote:
1. Lincecum
2. Carpenter
3. Haren
And how about the Braves? Took 2 of 3 from the Marlins to move ahead of them in the WC. They've got a 3 game home series coming up against the Padres(sweeping them would be nice) before going to Philly for a 3 game set and then to Florida for a 4 game series. Those 7 games, more or less, will ultimately decide if the Braves will have a shot at getting into the playoffs. They will have 3 more games against the Phillies and Marlins at home later in Spetember, but if they go something like 2-5 in the upcoming 7 game stretch against those two teams, then they'll more than likely be out of it.
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on August 23, 2009, 05:49:54 pm
Oh, I know he's alive and well.
But to be fair, the Jays have much more efficient offensive threats (Hill, Scutaro, etc.)
That's true, this year, but not every year. Hill and Scutaro are having career years. Halladay is in the Cy Young discussion every year while playing for a 4th place team in the toughest division in baseball.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on August 23, 2009, 05:56:11 pm
Smoltz 5 innings 9 K's 3 hits. Word.
Glad to see him do some good even though he was absolute trash in Boston. I've always liked those 3 pitchers from the Braves.
Yeah, no doubt. Halladay is a surefire Hall of Famer. Carpenter would be had injuries not taken away four of his prime years.
Franklin has the bases loaded with 1 out. Nobody strike a match.
Quote from: RHS on August 23, 2009, 06:04:52 pm
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on August 23, 2009, 05:56:11 pm
Smoltz 5 innings 9 K's 3 hits. Word.
Glad to see him do some good even though he was absolute trash in Boston. I've always liked those 3 pitchers from the Braves.
The trio of Maddux/Smoltz/Glavine is when and why my love for the Braves started as a kid. It really pained me to see Smoltz struggle for the Red Sox. Glad to see him bounce back and have a good outing. Even if it was for the Cardinals. ;D
Oscar Salazar just struck out. Everth Cabrera heads to the plate, bases loaded, down three, two out.
Struck him out!! Cardinals win!
Looked a lot like an Izzy save tho.
And Franklin gets out of a jam by striking out the last two batters after the bases were loaded. Cardinals win again, 5-2.
I didn't know the Cardinals beat the Padres. Again, I'm glad Smoltz had a good outing, but he was facing the equivalent of a very good AAA lineup. ;)
Quote from: AB™ on August 23, 2009, 06:31:21 pm
the equivalent of a very good AAA lineup. ;)
Meh, that's debatable.
Quote from: AB™ on August 23, 2009, 06:31:21 pm
I didn't know the Cardinals beat the Padres. Again, I'm glad Smoltz had a good outing, but he was facing the equivalent of a very good AAA lineup. ;)
That same lineup took 2-3 from the Cubs, so what does that make the Cubs?
Dear Phillies,
Were coming for that number one spot.
Signed, Braves fans.
Derek Jeter just hit the first pitch of the game from Beckett for a home run.
lol at Beckett
Quote from: Romeo on August 23, 2009, 06:59:35 pm
Dear Phillies,
Were coming for that number one spot.
Signed, Braves fans.
Lulz
Beckett has been teh suck in this game. Really pissing me off.
Quote from: RHS on August 23, 2009, 09:03:36 pm
Beckett has been teh suck in this game. Really pissing me off.
which Hr...the 1st, 2nd, 3rd or 4th ::)...was pretty shaky his last start as well....needs to get his crap together soon..
Quote from: jbell96 on August 23, 2009, 04:44:05 pm
If Carpenter was wearing a Red Sox uniform we wouldn't hear the end of how great he is.
Carpenter is great, but it's still a lot different doing it in the AL East vs doing it in the NL. That's why I have all the respect in the world for what Roy Halladay has done his entire career, which AB also mentioned.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on August 23, 2009, 05:56:11 pm
Smoltz 5 innings 9 K's 3 hits. Word.
Doesn't surprise me in the least. San Diego is a freaking joke. I'm sure Smoltz will continue to post great numbers now that he's back in the NL though. It's like the fountain of youth.
Quote from: AB™ on August 23, 2009, 06:31:21 pm
I didn't know the Cardinals beat the Padres. Again, I'm glad Smoltz had a good outing, but he was facing the equivalent of a very good AAA lineup. ;)
That's being extremely generous.
Smoltz found something in his mechanics during his time off and having Duncan as a pitching coach and being comfortable with your team had a lot to do with it as well. But it is nice to start against the Padres to get that confidence back.
Quote from: CHSBISON77 on August 23, 2009, 09:10:28 pm
Quote from: RHS on August 23, 2009, 09:03:36 pm
Beckett has been teh suck in this game. Really pissing me off.
which Hr...the 1st, 2nd, 3rd or 4th ::)...was pretty shaky his last start as well....needs to get his crap together soon..
5th
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on August 23, 2009, 06:50:22 pm
Quote from: AB™ on August 23, 2009, 06:31:21 pm
I didn't know the Cardinals beat the Padres. Again, I'm glad Smoltz had a good outing, but he was facing the equivalent of a very good AAA lineup. ;)
That same lineup took 2-3 from the Cubs, so what does that make the Cubs?
The Cubs are a freaking joke this year and you know it. They've been injury plagued and have been a very average team. The rest of NL Central outside of the Cards has been average at best.
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on August 23, 2009, 06:32:56 pm
Quote from: AB™ on August 23, 2009, 06:31:21 pm
the equivalent of a very good AAA lineup. ;)
Meh, that's debatable.
Look at the lineup the Padres threw out there today against Smoltz.
Everth Cabrera: 232 AB, .272 Avg, 2 HR, 23 RBI, .360 OBP, .409 Slg% - Those are his career numbers. This has been his first season in the bigs.
Tony Gwynn Jr.: 287 AB, .272 Avg, 1 HR, 11 RBI, .348 OBP, .345 Slg% - Been nothing more than a part time player in his short career.
Adrian Gonzalez: 434 AB, .272 Avg, 33 HR, 74 RBI, .401 OBP, .553 Slg% - The only real threat in the lineup.
Chase Headley: 411 AB, .253 Avg, 9 HR, 46 RBI, .330 OBP, .384 Slg% - His first full season and the fact that he's hitting cleanup for a big league team is laughable.
Kevin Kouzmanoff: 458 AB, .258 Avg, 15 HR, 71 RBI, .299 OBP, .417 Slg% - A .299 OBP? Wow! And he's hitting in the 5 hole for a big league team.
Will Venable: 169 AB, .272 Avg, 7 HR, 24 RBI, .342 OBP, .467 Slg% - This has been his second stint in the big leagues, getting 110 AB's last year. Another rookie with some pop in his bat.
Nick Hundley: 166 AB, .217 Avg, 5 HR, 16 RBI, .307 OBP, .373 Slg% - Hundley has played in 109 combined games the last two seasons. Nothing eye popping about his numbers
Luis Rodriguez: 189 AB, .212 Avg, 2 HR, 15 RBI, .321 OBP, .275 Slg% - Another player who's never been more than a backup with underwhelming numbers.
Outside of Adrian Gonzalez, the Padres lineup is an absolute joke, and is indeed very close to what you'd face when going up against a AAA team.
I'm not sure if you caught my meaning or not, but I meant you were being generous by saying they were a very good AAA lineup :)
Quote from: AB™ on August 23, 2009, 10:21:07 pmThe rest of NL Central outside of the Cards has been average at best.
Like I said at the beginning of the year, the NL Central is a joke and the worst division in baseball once again. Yes, it's worse than the AL Central. At least the AL Central has more than one team that's competitive.
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on August 23, 2009, 10:33:45 pm
I'm not sure if you caught my meaning or not, but I meant you were being generous by saying they were a very good AAA lineup :)
Ahh, ok. I thought you meant it the other way.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on August 23, 2009, 10:33:52 pm
Quote from: AB™ on August 23, 2009, 10:21:07 pmThe rest of NL Central outside of the Cards has been average at best.
Like I said at the beginning of the year, the NL Central is a joke and the worst division in baseball once again. Yes, it's worse than the AL Central. At least the AL Central has more than one team that's competitive.
And yet, what looks to be the best team in baseball right now is out of the NL Central.
When did the Yankees move to the NL Central?
The Cardinals are not the best team in baseball. You move them to any other division in baseball and their record isn't as good as it is now.
Imagine if they were in the AL East and had to play 54 games a year against the Yankees, Red Sox, an Rays. I can think of 6 teams in the NL alone that are better than the Cubs this year and the Cubbies are in 2nd place in the Central!
Quote from: Ty on August 24, 2009, 08:32:15 am
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on August 23, 2009, 10:33:52 pm
Quote from: AB™ on August 23, 2009, 10:21:07 pmThe rest of NL Central outside of the Cards has been average at best.
Like I said at the beginning of the year, the NL Central is a joke and the worst division in baseball once again. Yes, it's worse than the AL Central. At least the AL Central has more than one team that's competitive.
And yet, what looks to be the best team in baseball right now is out of the NL Central.
I'm sorry, but you are just not very intelligent. The Yankees are clearly the best team in baseball right now, and the Angels are better the Cardinals too. I'd even take the Phillies over them.
I don't know if you guys know this or not, but Yadier Molina is the best catcher in baseball, Chris Carpenter is the best pitcher in baseball, Tony La Russa is the best manager in baseball, the Cardinals are the best team in baseball, and of course, they have the BEST FANS IN BASEBALL too. Just a tidbit of info I read on espn.com recently.
Quote from: AB™ on August 24, 2009, 11:08:48 am
The Cardinals are not the best team in baseball. You move them to any other division in baseball and their record isn't as good as it is now.
Imagine if they were in the AL East and had to play 54 games a year against the Yankees, Red Sox, an Rays. I can think of 6 teams in the NL alone that are better than the Cubs this year and the Cubbies are in 2nd place in the Central!
Now AB, lets not try to bring common sense into this. Do you not realize how rigorous a schedule the Cardinals have played?
They have played exactly one, I repeat, ONE team all month long who has a record of over .500. Congrats on beating up on the Padres, Astros, Reds, and Pirates... although when you play in the worst division in Major League Baseball, you tend to get a lot of cakewalk series. St. Louis is really going to have to gear up for this BRUTAL homestand they have coming up with Houston, Washington, and Milwaukee, followed by a trip to Pittsburg. Yikes!
Makes you wonder what type of a record they would have if they played in a real division with any, and I mean ANY respectable teams.
I can't think of anyother division in baseball the Cards would be in first place. The AL Central...MAYBE.
The Cards record this year agains the other NL contenders.
Phillies: 3-4
Dodgers: 5-2
Rockies: 0-4
Braves: 2-1
Giants: 3-4
Marlins: 2-1
total: 15-16
That's right, they have a losing record against the other NL contenders. Fortunately for the Cardinals the three toughest series they have remaining is a three game home series against the Braves and Marlins, and a three game road series at Colorado. Is it too far stretched to say, if they were playing in the NL West or NL East where they had to play those divisional opponents 18 times a season, that they wouldn't have such a gaudy record? I say no.
To all the haters, just remember that we are one of only two teams in baseball with two World Series appearances in the past five years.
Quote from: AB™ on August 24, 2009, 12:12:43 pm
The Cards record this year agains the other NL contenders.
Phillies: 3-4
Dodgers: 5-2
Rockies: 0-4
Braves: 2-1
Giants: 3-4
Marlins: 2-1
total: 15-16
That's right, they have a losing record against the other NL contenders. Fortunately for the Cardinals the three toughest series they have remaining is a three game home series against the Braves and Marlins, and a three game road series at Colorado. Is it too far stretched to say, if they were playing in the NL West or NL East where they had to play those divisional opponents 18 times a season, that they wouldn't have such a gaudy record? I say no.
How many of those games were played BEFORE Matt Holliday arrived?
Oh yeah, all but 10. The only teams we've played since we got Holliday are the Dodgers & Phillies. We're 6-4 in those 10 games. We'd have probably taken 2 of 3 from the Phillies had we not been at the back end of our rotation that weekend.
I still stand firm in my belief, with or without Holliday, the Cardinals would be about 5-7 games worse in any other division.
I think in just the NL alone the Phillies are better than the Cards, and when Manny is hitting the Dodgers are as well. Unfortunately for the Dodgers Manny is slumping and it's hurting their overall team performance. And I may be recahing a bit, but I think the Rockies are the best team in the NL right now based on their recent play. Then you've got the Yankees, Angels, and probably even the Rangers, Rays, and Red Sox who are as good or better than the Cardinals.
The Cardinals are a very solid baseball team, but if you threw them into any other division in baseball(besides the AL Central)they would finish no higher in second, and based on the schdule they would have to play, and their lack of pitching depth at the back end of their rotation, there's a few divisions they would finish 3rd in.
You really think the Cards would be 5-7 games worse in a division that has the Mets & Nationals?
The beauty about all of this that we'll find out who knows what they are talking about come October.
Quote from: jbell96 on August 24, 2009, 01:40:36 pm
You really think the Cards would be 5-7 games worse in a division that has the Mets & Nationals?
The beauty about all of this that we'll find out who knows what they are talking about come October.
Yes, because the Braves, Phillies, and Marlins are all better than the any other team in the NL Central. The Mets aren't much worse than the Cubs and Brewers.
The Cardinals may get hot in the playoffs and win the NL pennant but that still doesn't prove that they wouldn't be at least 5 games worse in the regular season in a tougher division. We all know regular season success hardly ever means great postseason success. Some teams are built for success over a 162 game season. Others, who may have an average or slightly above average regular season, may be built perfectly for post season success. The MLB post season is a crap shoot. I forget the number, but hasn't a wildcard team either won the World Series or reached the World Series pretty regularly this decade? And how often do the teams with the best record in each league meet in the World Series? When was the last time that happened? In baseball, you are taking a 162 game season, and the teams that have proven themselves as being the best during the course of that marathon of a season, are then supposed to do so in a 19 game(max)postseason. The MLB playoffs and the College World Series are the biggest crapshoot playoffs systems in sports and a lot of that has to do with baseball being so unpredictable.
Quote from: jbell96 on August 24, 2009, 12:50:54 pm
Quote from: AB™ on August 24, 2009, 12:12:43 pm
The Cards record this year agains the other NL contenders.
Phillies: 3-4
Dodgers: 5-2
Rockies: 0-4
Braves: 2-1
Giants: 3-4
Marlins: 2-1
total: 15-16
That's right, they have a losing record against the other NL contenders. Fortunately for the Cardinals the three toughest series they have remaining is a three game home series against the Braves and Marlins, and a three game road series at Colorado. Is it too far stretched to say, if they were playing in the NL West or NL East where they had to play those divisional opponents 18 times a season, that they wouldn't have such a gaudy record? I say no.
How many of those games were played BEFORE Matt Holliday arrived?
Oh yeah, all but 10. The only teams we've played since we got Holliday are the Dodgers & Phillies. We're 6-4 in those 10 games. We'd have probably taken 2 of 3 from the Phillies had we not been at the back end of our rotation that weekend.
Exactly. Add in Derosa and Lugo. The Cards are tough right now. Before Holliday, Derosa and Lugo then yes they were an average team with a superstar. Right now they are in the top 5 in MLB. Yankees, Red Sox, Phillies, Angels and Cardinals not in any particular order. The jury is still out on Smoltz. Until he faces a better opponent then we will see.
"Even if you win in the playoffs it proves nothing"
Glad to see you all already have an out if we do well in the playoffs.
Oh and we do have the best fans in baseball. And its not even close. Sorry Boston but yelling and cursing at your own players all the time does not earn you points.
Cliff Lee moves to 5-0 for the Phils, tossing 7 innings of 2 hit ball. A staggering ERA of .67 with them so far.
Quote from: Coach Venny Slocombe on August 24, 2009, 02:44:06 pmRight now they are in the top 5 in MLB. Yankees, Red Sox, Phillies, Angels and Cardinals not in any particular order.
The Red Sox are not a Top 5 team in baseball.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on August 24, 2009, 04:19:40 pm
"Even if you win in the playoffs it proves nothing"
Glad to see you all already have an out if we do well in the playoffs.
If the Cardinals win the World Series then that will prove something. They are a lot better than I think they are right now. I wasn't trying to use that as an out. Right now, though, I think their record and big division lead, is a mix of the Cardinals being a good team playing in a terrible division.
Combined records and winning percentage of each divsion.
AL East: 323-293 .524 win% 64.6 wins per team
AL Central: 290-327 .470 win% 58 wins per team
AL West: 261-231 .530 win% 65.3 wins per team
NL East: 304-315 .491 win% 60.8 wins per team 63 losses per team
NL Central: 358-382 .483 win% 59.7 wins per team 63.7 losses per team
NL West: 319-306 .521 win% 63.8 wins per team 61.2 losses per team
So, only the AL Central has a worse combined win percentage than the NL Central and it's no secret that both of those divisions are pretty bad. If the Cubs hadn't lost so many late games due to not having a reliable closer, and hadn't suffered so many injuries to key players, then they would at least give the NL Central two good teams.
Look, the Cardinals are having a good season, and the Matt Holliday trade has turned them into legit World Series contenders. The point I'm trying to make, is if they were in any other division(save the AL Central)and were having to play the top teams in those divisions 18 times each, instead of 6 or 7 times, then they wouldn't have as good of a record and probably wouldn't win the division.
You can think what you want but I think that the Phillies are the only team in the NL that is better than us. We have owned the Dodgers and they had Manny in every game we played against them.
That may be true, but I think, right now, the Rockies are better than the Cardinals, and the Rockies are 4-0 against the Cardinals this year. The Giants are also 4-3 against the Cardinals. The Cards have owned the Cardinals this year though. I'll give you that.
Quote from: AB™ on August 24, 2009, 05:05:48 pm
The Cards have owned the Cardinals this year though. I'll give you that.
Hard to argue with that. :)
Quote from: AB™ on August 24, 2009, 05:05:48 pm
That may be true, but I think, right now, the Rockies are better than the Cardinals, and the Rockies are 4-0 against the Cardinals this year. The Giants are also 4-3 against the Cardinals. The Cards have owned the Cardinals this year though. I'll give you that.
Every game against the Rockies and the Giants were before we got Holiday. We are a completely different team than we were then.
Quote from: QF© on August 24, 2009, 05:11:42 pm
Quote from: AB™ on August 24, 2009, 05:05:48 pm
The Cards have owned the Cardinals this year though. I'll give you that.
Hard to argue with that. :)
I meant the Cardinals have owned the Dodgers.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on August 24, 2009, 05:15:00 pm
Quote from: AB™ on August 24, 2009, 05:05:48 pm
That may be true, but I think, right now, the Rockies are better than the Cardinals, and the Rockies are 4-0 against the Cardinals this year. The Giants are also 4-3 against the Cardinals. The Cards have owned the Cardinals this year though. I'll give you that.
Every game against the Rockies and the Giants were before we got Holiday. We are a completely different team than we were then.
And I'm not denying that. I think by adding Holliday the Cardinals have made themselves one of the 3 favorites to win the NL pennant. I think it will ultimately come down to either the Phillies, Cardinals, or Dodgers(if Manny is hitting), and the Rockies could be a sleeper.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on August 24, 2009, 04:25:50 pm
Oh and we do have the best fans in baseball. And its not even close. Sorry Boston but yelling and cursing at your own players all the time does not earn you points.
I thought that was Philadelphia. I think I remember reading that one year when they played on Easter that the fans booed the kids that didn't find any eggs during the father/kid egg hunt.
Quote from: Chief_Osceola™ on August 24, 2009, 07:05:36 pm
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on August 24, 2009, 04:25:50 pm
Oh and we do have the best fans in baseball. And its not even close. Sorry Boston but yelling and cursing at your own players all the time does not earn you points.
I thought that was Philadelphia. I think I remember reading that one year when they played on Easter that the fans booed the kids that didn't find any eggs during the father/kid egg hunt.
Its a Norteastern thing.
Quote from: AB™ on August 23, 2009, 12:06:36 amThey also need to lock up Nyjer Morgan long term. If they get the worst record in baseball again next year and get Harper, they'd still need to have a decent lineup to put around him and Zimmerman.
We still have Nyjer Morgan five more years until FA and two more before even arbitration. To say the least, Nyjer Morgan was a massive steal. He has been a very good leadoff hitter, insane on the base paths, and a gold glove in center field. 18-20 so far under jim Riggleman has been very acceptable and a great step in the right direction.
Morgan, Zimmerman, Willingham(insane percentages)and Dunn are great pieces to build around offensively. If Jesus Flores gets healthy as a catcher(Was top 5 in basically every catching hitting category before injury), if one of our several good short stop gloves in the farm system can be moved up so we can start Guzman at second, we'll be fine batting wise and much improved defensively. We have been vastly better defensively since Dunn was moved to first and we have start Nyjer Morgan and Elijah Dukes both in the outfield.
CF Morgan
2B Guzman
3B Zimmerman
1B Dunn
LF Willingham
RF Dukes
C Flores
SS Desmond (Good glove contact hitter who is only 23. Should see big league time in September.)
That lineup could win some games offensively and be very acceptable defensively. Belliard, Willie Harris, Josh Bard, and some other guys would be decent depth.
The pitching will eventually get better... It can't get worse. We've sorted through enough trash that we're starting to find some keepers in the bullpen and the starters will eventually be borderline decent. Lannan is a keeper and we'll sign a solid FA or two hopefully. And, as I said before, Strasburg is a future multiple time Cy Young winner... Beast. I think he gets called up no later than early All-Star Break, though I'd hope he was in the Minors as long as possible.
That's actually a pretty solid lineup you've got there. Morgan, Zimmerman, Dunn, and Willingham are a playoff calibre middle of the order.
I worry Strasbourg is overhyped (I'm always hesitant to hype anyone as much as he is), but I won't rain on your parade :)
It is a good lineup, but all that worries me is early this year this team played vastly below the sum of its parts. It should get better, though.
Well, I will admit like any pitcher, the bust potential is very high. I think he'll be good, but not getting my hopes up way to high until he has some solid outings then I'll be jumping through the roof. If this team could challenge for 70 wins next year, I'd be very, very happy since it would be a great step in the right direction. Still, lets say we can circle the wagons and get borderline below average pitching instead of the horrific stuff this years along with some good health... We could challenge for .500.
I just hope we continue to stay competitive through the rest of this year like we have been so far under Jim Riggleman.
dang it
Zach Greinke struck out 15 tonight over 8 innings. Filthy.
I've been watching the Rockies and Dodgers the last few innings and what a ballgame this has been. Clint Barmes just hit the go ahead HR in the 7th to put Colorado up 3-2. Lets go Rockies!
FML, Carl Crawford gets the night off & I'm not home in time to put Josh Willingham into my lineup. 22 friggin points from him tonight.
Nationals - 15
Cubs - 6
You're welcome, Cardinals.
Nooooooooo Manny ties the game 4-4 with 2 outs in the 9th.
Come on Rockies.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on August 24, 2009, 05:15:00 pm
Quote from: AB™ on August 24, 2009, 05:05:48 pm
That may be true, but I think, right now, the Rockies are better than the Cardinals, and the Rockies are 4-0 against the Cardinals this year. The Giants are also 4-3 against the Cardinals. The Cards have owned the Cardinals this year though. I'll give you that.
Every game against the Rockies and the Giants were before we got Holiday. We are a completely different team than we were then.
Lugo has been a huge pickup as well.
If you look at the stats, Pujols, Ludwick, Schumaker, and Rasmus have all played worse since the Holliday trade. Getting Duncan's bat out of the lineup and letting Skip sit against some lefties has helped the offense a tremendous amount.
The Twins were down 5-2, and then 6-3. Delmon Young hits a game winning single to go 4 for 5 on the game. Twins are now back to .500 on the season. If the Angels can win, we will be 3.5 games back when we were 8 games back a week and a half ago.
Hey AB, tell me how it feels to be beaten by an AAA team at home? :)
Quote from: jbell96 on August 25, 2009, 10:53:24 pm
Hey AB, tell me how it feels to be beaten by an AAA team at home? :)
It sucks. Once again, we get great pitching, and zero offense. We don't have real staying power in the NL East or Wildcard race, because we don't have a very imposing lineup. We have little to no power, and virtually no speed in our lineup. The fact that we've been able to stay in the Wildcard hunt as we head to September is a miracle. I don't know the exact number, but we've lost a lot of games this year where we give up 4 or fewer runs because our offense can't produce. If we had an Albert Pujols, or someone just 1/4 the hitter he is, in our lineup, we'd probably be winning the WC and right there with the Phillies. Doesn't help that our best hitter(McCann)missed a portion of the early season, because he couldn't see. He even played under that condition, and his sub-.200 Avg. in 50 or so games into the season was evidence of that.
We've gone through stretches without McCann or Chipper in the lineup, which makes our offense just a hair scarier than the Padres lineup. I've said it all year long, we've got a World Series caliber pitching staff, but a last place caliber lineup. It freakin' sucks!!!
Safe to say the Cubs have thrown in the towel? Waving the white flag? And so on?
Rockies beat the Dodgers 5-4 on a Tulo walk off single and are only 2 games back now. Shades of 2007.
They're so winning the NL West.
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on August 25, 2009, 11:18:39 pm
Safe to say the Cubs have thrown in the towel? Waving the white flag? And so on?
Nope, we just straight whooped their butts.
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on August 25, 2009, 11:18:39 pm
Safe to say the Cubs have thrown in the towel? Waving the white flag? And so on?
No, I think they just F'ing suck.
It's not just that the Cubs suck. They've been very injury riddled all year and haven't had a reliable closer. I'd venture to guess that they've used as many different lineups this year as anyone in baseball.
I don't think any team has been as injury riddled as the Mets this year. They got raped by injuries.
No joke. Delgado, Beltran, Wright, Reyes, now Santana....pretty much every single one of their best players.
Yeah, them too. There record has not been indicitive of their talent,because when they're fully healthy, they're as talented as any team in baseball.
Under Riggleman, the Nats are 19-20. We've been a streaky team, but just to put Washington's improvement under Jim Riggleman in perspective, the Nationals didn't win their 18th game under Manny Acta until June 17 -- a night when the record improved to 18-46. I'll be pretty mad if we don't retain him.
Oops, I forgot.
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Quote from: AB™ on August 26, 2009, 07:44:26 am
Yeah, them too. There record has not been indicitive of their talent,because when they're fully healthy, they're as talented as any team in baseball.
Ummm the Blue Jays have lost every single starting pitcher to injury this year for atleast two games and 4 have been out for the season. Off the opening day roster 7 starting position players have had injuries of varying severity. I think they make a run for that most injured team list.
Ok, sorry I left off your precious Blue Jays.
Quote from: AB™ on August 26, 2009, 01:59:04 pm
Ok, sorry I left off your precious Blue Jays.
:P
Q: Who has the most HR in MLB since June?
A: David Ortiz
Q: Who just hit 2 HR tonight, including the walk off to beat the White Sox?
A: David Ortiz
Oh yes. He is back.
Great. In a series where we needed to take at least 2 of 3, we lose the first two games to the freakin' Padres.
Now we need to win a minimum of 6 of our next 8 games, (1 against the Padres, 3 against the Phillies, and 4 against the Marlins)if we want to have any hope of reaching the post season. Since I highly doubt that will happen, I think we can more or less count the Braves out of the playoff hunt.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on August 26, 2009, 08:49:58 pm
Q: Who has the most HR in MLB since June?
A: David Ortiz
Q: Who just hit 2 HR tonight, including the walk off to beat the White Sox?
A: David Ortiz
Oh yes. He is back.
Wonder if he found a new
health food supplier during that time?
Quote from: AB™ on August 26, 2009, 09:05:25 pm
Great. In a series where we needed to take at least 2 of 3, we lose the first two games to the freakin' Padres.
.
I'm hacked.
In other news. Cardinals win again.
Quote from: QF© on August 26, 2009, 09:08:05 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on August 26, 2009, 08:49:58 pm
Q: Who has the most HR in MLB since June?
A: David Ortiz
Q: Who just hit 2 HR tonight, including the walk off to beat the White Sox?
A: David Ortiz
Oh yes. He is back.
Wonder if he found a new health food supplier during that time?
Not funny. Lets not go there.
He is absolutely launching baseballs now though, and to all fields. It might be good enough to carry us to the playoffs.
In his last 12 starts, Adam Wainwright has given up 2 or less runs in every single one of them. Talk about domination.
Brad Penny released! Yes!
It makes sense. Until now there was no roster spot available for Billy Wagner.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on August 26, 2009, 11:48:32 pm
Brad Penny released! Yes!
It makes sense. Until now there was no roster spot available for Billy Wagner.
And after y'all went out and spent all that money on him in hopes of buying your way to another World Series. I can't believe it!
I'm going to go out on a limb and say it's probably not a good year to be a Cubs fan. Take a guess at who said this:
Quote"When I go home and look in the mirror, I like what I see. My family is there I have people I can talk to who are very supportive, in spite of everything and all the adversity and the hatred you face on a daily basis. But I'll be all right. I always have. I'm talking about hatred, period. I'm talking about when I go to eat at a restaurant. I've got to listen to the waiters badmouthing me at another table, sitting in a restaurant. That's what I'm talking about. Everything. All I'm saying is I pray the game is nine innings, so I can go out there the least amount of time possible and go home."
That's pretty telling.
(Milton Bradley)
Quote from: AB™ on August 26, 2009, 11:55:08 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on August 26, 2009, 11:48:32 pm
Brad Penny released! Yes!
It makes sense. Until now there was no roster spot available for Billy Wagner.
And after y'all went out and spent all that money on him in hopes of buying your way to another World Series. I can't believe it!
I know it! I can't remember, did we give Penny a 1 year $80M contract or was it $100M?
I thought it was a 2 year $45M contract with incentives.
Quote from: AB™ on August 27, 2009, 12:06:16 am
I thought it was a 2 year $45M contract with incentives.
You're right, it was. The incentives took it up to $178M though if you include the 2nd year. It's a good thing we released him.
I thought I heard somewhere that if the Sox won the World Series, and Penny got 3 postseason wins, that he would be paid an extra $70M which could have possibly ran the contract over $200M. The Sox did buy him to win another World Series.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on August 26, 2009, 11:55:43 pm
I'm going to go out on a limb and say it's probably not a good year to be a Cubs fan. Take a guess at who said this:
Quote"When I go home and look in the mirror, I like what I see. My family is there I have people I can talk to who are very supportive, in spite of everything and all the adversity and the hatred you face on a daily basis. But I'll be all right. I always have. I'm talking about hatred, period. I'm talking about when I go to eat at a restaurant. I've got to listen to the waiters badmouthing me at another table, sitting in a restaurant. That's what I'm talking about. Everything. All I'm saying is I pray the game is nine innings, so I can go out there the least amount of time possible and go home."
That's pretty telling.
(Milton Bradley)
To be fair to Chicago. Everyong effing hates Milton Bradley. But they got what they deserved for wanting him over DeRosa.
Just saw an impressive note about the Cardinals top 3 starters:
Since July 1, Carpenter, Wainwright and Piñeiro are a combined 23-2 with a 1.89 ERA. The team's record in their starts since July 1 is 28-3.
Just when I think my Rangers are about ready to fold the tent, they take 2-of-3 from the Evil Empire. They just keep hanging around.
Quote from: jbell96 on August 27, 2009, 12:51:32 pm
Just saw an impressive note about the Cardinals top 3 starters:
Since July 1, Carpenter, Wainwright and Piñeiro are a combined 23-2 with a 1.89 ERA. The team's record in their starts since July 1 is 28-3.
Effing jinxed us today. Bullpen blows 3-2 lead. FML.
My Washington Nationals take the rubber match against the Cubs 5-4 in a series where the Cubs needed to sweep us to stay alive in the playoff hunt.
You're welcome, Saint Louis.
We appreciate the help from the Nats even though we don't really need it. :)
Hey I've been to two Nationals games, they're one of my five favourite teams :)
Just did a little number crunching.
If the Cardinals finish under .500 in their remaining games, let's say 15-16, that will give them a record of 90-72.
To match that, the Cubs will have to go 27-10 in their remaining games.
The Cardinals have a an easy schedule to finish out the season. A very easy schedule.
8/28 vs. Nationals
8/29 vs. Nationals
8/30 vs. Nationals
9/1 vs. Brewers
9/2 vs. Brewers
9/3 vs. Brewers
9/4 at Pirates
9/5 at Pirates
9/6 at Pirates
9/7 at Brewers
9/8 at Brewers
9/9 at Brewers
9/11 vs. Braves
9/12 vs. Braves
9/13 vs. Braves
9/14 vs. Marlins
9/15 vs. Marlins
9/16 vs. Marlins
9/18 vs. Cubs
9/19 vs. Cubs
9/20 vs. Cubs
9/21 at Astros
9/22 at Astros
9/23 at Astros
9/25 at Rockies
9/26 at Rockies
9/27 at Rockies
9/29 at Reds
9/30 at Reds
10/1 at Reds
10/2 vs. Brewers
10/3 vs. Brewers
10/4 vs. Brewers
I think it's safe to say that the Cards will go at least 18-15 the rest of the way. Their three toughest series are the two home series against the Braves and Marlins, and a road series in Colorado. The Braves are hit or miss, if our offense produces just a little bit we're very good, but if not we're very average. The Marlins are a hit or miss team as well. The only series I see them possibly losing is the one at Colorado. The Brewers are dangerous if they can ever get a little bit of pitching because they have a dangerous lineup. I'd say the Cardinals will finish something like 20-13, and end up with a 94-68 record. I wouldn't be surprised to see them win 23 of their finall 33 and win 95+. Only way they don't finish in the 95 win neighborhood is if LaRussa rests his players down the streetch for the playoffs, but I don't think he'll have that luxury since they'll be in a battle with the Phillies and Dodgers for the best NL record.
Nyjer Morgan out for the year with a broken hand... We don't lose much defensively with Willie Harris in center field, but Nyjer Morgan has been insane offensively.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on August 27, 2009, 02:58:11 am
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on August 26, 2009, 11:55:43 pm
I'm going to go out on a limb and say it's probably not a good year to be a Cubs fan. Take a guess at who said this:
Quote"When I go home and look in the mirror, I like what I see. My family is there I have people I can talk to who are very supportive, in spite of everything and all the adversity and the hatred you face on a daily basis. But I'll be all right. I always have. I'm talking about hatred, period. I'm talking about when I go to eat at a restaurant. I've got to listen to the waiters badmouthing me at another table, sitting in a restaurant. That's what I'm talking about. Everything. All I'm saying is I pray the game is nine innings, so I can go out there the least amount of time possible and go home."
That's pretty telling.
(Milton Bradley)
To be fair to Chicago. Everyong effing hates Milton Bradley. But they got what they deserved for wanting him over DeRosa.
Supposedly, we got rid of DeRosa because we couldn't afford his contract this year. This makes a ton of sense, because we got rid of his $5.3 million salary (I'm making a rough guess, that's what I remember it being last I heard) to bring on Milton Bradley at $10 million/year for three years. Way to go, Jim Hendry ::). The man has been an absolute cancer to the team all year, and I'm praying (not literally, of course) that the Ricketts get rid of him this offseason. He has brought absolutely nothing but problems to the team this year.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on August 25, 2009, 11:29:48 pm
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on August 25, 2009, 11:18:39 pm
Safe to say the Cubs have thrown in the towel? Waving the white flag? And so on?
No, I think they just F'ing suck.
It was argued that the Cubs don't really suck, they've just been decimated by injuries. While my beloved Cubbies have been dominated by the DL this year, this is not an excuse. They have been horrendous. Actually, they've been mediocre, but given the fact that they have the third highest payroll in baseball and are coming off of back to back division titles, saying that they have been mediocre would be being too kind. The offense has been flat out awful. Nobody on the roster who has played more than 60 games is hitting over .300. One player on the roster, Derrek Lee, has more than 20 home runs. Lee also leads the team with 86 RBI. Who is second behind him? Soriano, with 52. Last year, the Cubs finished the year ranked second in all of baseball in total batting stats. This year, they're currently at 22nd, with a dreadful .255 team batting average. On the pitching side, our starters have been excellent this year (when healthy). Third in the league in quality starts, third in the league holding opposing teams to a .247 average, 5th in the league in strikeouts. The downfall? The bullpen. Particularly, the position of closer. Kevin Gregg was not the answer and never was. So no one should have been surprised when he had a meltdown (hey, it was good while it lasted). And despite what many people think, Carlos Marmol is NOT the answer. He averages almost a walk an inning (55 walks in 59 innings pitched), and you honestly never know what's going to happen when he pitches. That's not what you need in a closer. He needs to be sent packing, along with Milton Bradley and Carlos Zambrano, the oft-injured, supposed ace who has a staggering seven wins this year and has caused more problems than anything else (see Gatorade machine meltdown this year). There needs to be some serious house cleaning done this winter, and as much as I hate to say it, there will be plenty of time to do it, because the Cubs will not make the playoffs this year. A new starting pitcher (or two) is needed since Rich Harden was lost today (he was gone anyways, not enough $$$ to bring him back), a new closer is needed (look at Billy Wagner, perhaps?), and the outfield needs to be fixed, especially if Bradley is sent packing.
I do applaud the Cardinals this year (as much as I freaking hate the Cardinals and hate to say it). Their management has made some great moves this year and picked up some great players. They deserve the playoffs, my beloved Cubbies simply don't. Sorry for the outburst, I needed to get my frustrations out.
I wouldn't call it an outburst.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on August 28, 2009, 02:15:15 am
I wouldn't call it an outburst.
Me either. Came off pretty calm if you ask me. Had the Cardinals got rid of a glue guy like De Rosa & signed a cancer like Bradley I would've been much harsher towards my organization.
Wainwright-25 straight starts pitching 6 + innings. Best in the majors. No one has rested the bullpen as much as him this season. And to have the ERA, K's, and win/loss record that he has to go with it is pretty impressive.
Scott Kazmir was on the verge of being traded to the Angels.
This is what I saw earlier, but now the deal has apparently fallen through.
QuoteThe Angels are on the verge of bolstering their beleaguered rotation for the stretch run by trading for left-hander Scott Kazmir from the Rays for a pair of prospects, a club source told MLB.com.
The Rays will get pitcher Alexander Torres and third baseman Matthew Sweeney in return in the deal, which is expected to be announced later today.
The Angels are close to getting a deal done where they'll send 2 minor league prospects to the Rays for Scott Kazmir.
Quote from: AB™ on August 28, 2009, 05:26:28 pm
The Angels are close to getting a deal done where they'll send 2 minor league prospects to the Rays for Scott Kazmir.
And THAT'S why I can't have nuthin' nice!
Quote from: ppop on August 28, 2009, 05:37:28 pm
Quote from: AB™ on August 28, 2009, 05:26:28 pm
The Angels are close to getting a deal done where they'll send 2 minor league prospects to the Rays for Scott Kazmir.
And THAT'S why I can't have nuthin' nice!
As far as I know, the deal has fallen through.
I think it'd be a stupid deal on the Rays part.
I'm with AB. Kazmir has pitched very well since returning from injury. Why the Rays would want to trade him is beyond me.
Quote from: jbell96 on August 28, 2009, 06:11:56 pm
I'm with AB. Kazmir has pitched very well since returning from injury. Why the Rays would want to trade him is beyond me.
Especially since they've shown they can be legit contenders the last two seasons, it makes even less since. Kazmir is a very good young pitcher and I have no idea why they would want to get rid of him, unless they just don't think they'll be able to afford him.
They just said on Baseball Tonight the Kazmir to Anaheim deal has been done. It's just a salary dump for the Rays. Unfortunately, being in a small market, they just can't afford to keep him. They said Carl Crawford is probably next on his way out of Tampa, although it will probably be next year sometime when that happens.
In other news, the Nationals made an extremely dumb decision. With no one on base, in the bottom of the 9th, they pitched to Pujols, who of course hit a walk-off home run. Why teams continue to pitch to Pujols in these type of situations is beyond me. He's not only the best player of this generation, but at this rate, he'll retire as a top 5 player ever.
Quote from: AB™ on August 28, 2009, 09:28:58 pm
In other news, the Nationals made an extremely dumb decision.
:-\
As a Cardinal fan, I would like to thank Boston for firing Smoltz. 6 innings giving up 1 run on 4 hits.
Quote from: AB™ on August 28, 2009, 09:28:58 pm
In other news, the Nationals made an extremely dumb decision. With no one on base, in the bottom of the 9th, they pitched to Pujols, who of course hit a walk-off home run. Why teams continue to pitch to Pujols in these type of situations is beyond me. He's not only the best player of this generation, but at this rate, he'll retire as a top 5 player ever.
Bergmann pitches one up around Albert's chin. He didn't look too happy about it and sends the next pitch just right of Big Mac land. Chunks the bat towards the dugout and trots off with a victory lap around the bases
Quote from: OlGuyWicker on August 28, 2009, 09:47:07 pm
As a Cardinal fan, I would like to thank Boston for firing Smoltz. 6 innings giving up 1 run on 4 hits.
lol
What do you Cardinals fans not understand about John Smoltz (and the rest of our cast-offs) being absolute garbage in the AL? Not necessarily referring to people on this board, but there are Cardinals fans everywhere that I know who always act like we have no clue what we're doing letting Joel Pineiro, Julio Lugo, etc go.
Do you not realize:
1. Joel Pineiro was F'ing terrible for the Red Sox. He was such an embarassment we moved him to the long reliever role, and he couldn't even cut it there. What a joke.
2. Julio Lugo absolutely sucks. He rarely hit, and his defense was basically on a high school level.
3. John Smoltz was the suck of all suck for us. He had an ERA of over 8.00+. Seriously, think about that for a second.
These guys just freaking sucked in the AL, but you know, going to the NL Central can resurrect pretty much anyone's career... even 40+ year old starting pitchers who couldn't get anyone out. Just trying to compare the leagues is laughable.
(http://img2.allposters.com/images/PHO/bb_AAHO047_8x10.jpg)
Josh its because we have the best pitching coach in baseball.
Duncan is good, but the NL is a huge step down from the AL. I'm an NL guy and don't have a problem admitting it. Pineiro was a terrible pitcher in the AL while with Boston. So was Smoltz, just a few weeks ago. Duncan isn't working miracles that quickly. Smoltz also has had the luxury of facing the Padres and Nationals in his two NL starts.
Teams like Tampa Bay, Texas, and even a healthy Toronto team, would be playoff teams in the ML, easily. Even Peter Gammons calls the NL Quadruple A baseball. It's a joke in some cases. After Philly, St. Louis, maybe the Dodgers, and maybe the Rockies, the rest of the NL is average or worse. Atlanta, Florida, San Francisco, etc. would be 5-10 games worse in the AL. You could make a case for the Cubs and Mets being legit when healthy, but both of those teams have been so injury riddled this year. Injuries weren't the only problems the Cubs had this year, though, they sucked as well.
I admit the AL is better but I get tired of this "You don't deserve to be in the same league" attitude BS.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on August 28, 2009, 11:05:47 pm
Quote from: OlGuyWicker on August 28, 2009, 09:47:07 pm
As a Cardinal fan, I would like to thank Boston for firing Smoltz. 6 innings giving up 1 run on 4 hits.
lol
What do you Cardinals fans not understand about John Smoltz (and the rest of our cast-offs) being absolute garbage in the AL? Not necessarily referring to people on this board, but there are Cardinals fans everywhere that I know who always act like we have no clue what we're doing letting Joel Pineiro, Julio Lugo, etc go.
Do you not realize:
1. Joel Pineiro was F'ing terrible for the Red Sox. He was such an embarassment we moved him to the long reliever role, and he couldn't even cut it there. What a joke.
2. Julio Lugo absolutely sucks. He rarely hit, and his defense was basically on a high school level.
3. John Smoltz was the suck of all suck for us. He had an ERA of over 8.00+. Seriously, think about that for a second.
These guys just freaking sucked in the AL, but you know, going to the NL Central can resurrect pretty much anyone's career... even 40+ year old starting pitchers who couldn't get anyone out. Just trying to compare the leagues is laughable.
1. Do you not realize that Joel Pinerio is pitching entirely differently now than he was with either the Mariners or the Red Sox? Just because someone doesn't perform for your beloved Red Sox and finds a way to get people out after working with the best pitching coach for a season doesn't mean they can't perform.
2. Lugo's best seasons up until this point have been playing in the AL with the Devil Rays.
3. Smoltz is pitching different in the NL; they were even discussing it tonight on ESPN. He's gone back to pounding the outside corner, no doubt influenced by Dave Duncan.
This decade alone, 4 AL teams and 4 NL teams have won a WS. You can take your AL teams and shove it.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on August 29, 2009, 12:33:55 am
I admit the AL is better but I get tired of this "You don't deserve to be in the same league" attitude BS.
There are always 2-5 teams in the NL that are as good as any team in the AL. I just think the AL top to bottom is better. The lineups are tougher, obviously, because of the DH, but for the most part, AL lineups are deeper and better.
Quote from: Ty on August 29, 2009, 12:50:51 am
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on August 28, 2009, 11:05:47 pm
Quote from: OlGuyWicker on August 28, 2009, 09:47:07 pm
As a Cardinal fan, I would like to thank Boston for firing Smoltz. 6 innings giving up 1 run on 4 hits.
lol
What do you Cardinals fans not understand about John Smoltz (and the rest of our cast-offs) being absolute garbage in the AL? Not necessarily referring to people on this board, but there are Cardinals fans everywhere that I know who always act like we have no clue what we're doing letting Joel Pineiro, Julio Lugo, etc go.
Do you not realize:
1. Joel Pineiro was F'ing terrible for the Red Sox. He was such an embarassment we moved him to the long reliever role, and he couldn't even cut it there. What a joke.
2. Julio Lugo absolutely sucks. He rarely hit, and his defense was basically on a high school level.
3. John Smoltz was the suck of all suck for us. He had an ERA of over 8.00+. Seriously, think about that for a second.
These guys just freaking sucked in the AL, but you know, going to the NL Central can resurrect pretty much anyone's career... even 40+ year old starting pitchers who couldn't get anyone out. Just trying to compare the leagues is laughable.
1. Do you not realize that Joel Pinerio is pitching entirely differently now than he was with either the Mariners or the Red Sox? Just because someone doesn't perform for your beloved Red Sox and finds a way to get people out after working with the best pitching coach for a season doesn't mean they can't perform.
2. Lugo's best seasons up until this point have been playing in the AL with the Devil Rays.
3. Smoltz is pitching different in the NL; they were even discussing it tonight on ESPN. He's gone back to pounding the outside corner, no doubt influenced by Dave Duncan.
This decade alone, 4 AL teams and 4 NL teams have won a WS. You can take your AL teams and shove it.
I see you still haven't touched the "Boston can't do anything but buy talent. They never develop it" crap you brought up since you got owned on that particular subject.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on August 28, 2009, 11:05:47 pm
Quote from: OlGuyWicker on August 28, 2009, 09:47:07 pm
As a Cardinal fan, I would like to thank Boston for firing Smoltz. 6 innings giving up 1 run on 4 hits.
lol
What do you Cardinals fans not understand about John Smoltz (and the rest of our cast-offs) being absolute garbage in the AL? Not necessarily referring to people on this board, but there are Cardinals fans everywhere that I know who always act like we have no clue what we're doing letting Joel Pineiro, Julio Lugo, etc go.
Do you not realize:
1. Joel Pineiro was F'ing terrible for the Red Sox. He was such an embarassment we moved him to the long reliever role, and he couldn't even cut it there. What a joke.
2. Julio Lugo absolutely sucks. He rarely hit, and his defense was basically on a high school level.
3. John Smoltz was the suck of all suck for us. He had an ERA of over 8.00+. Seriously, think about that for a second.
These guys just freaking sucked in the AL, but you know, going to the NL Central can resurrect pretty much anyone's career... even 40+ year old starting pitchers who couldn't get anyone out. Just trying to compare the leagues is laughable.
Thanks for clearing it all up for me. I feel so enlightened.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on August 29, 2009, 12:33:55 am
I admit the AL is better but I get tired of this "You don't deserve to be in the same league" attitude BS.
A effing Men
Quote from: Ty on August 29, 2009, 12:50:51 am
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on August 28, 2009, 11:05:47 pm
Quote from: OlGuyWicker on August 28, 2009, 09:47:07 pm
As a Cardinal fan, I would like to thank Boston for firing Smoltz. 6 innings giving up 1 run on 4 hits.
lol
What do you Cardinals fans not understand about John Smoltz (and the rest of our cast-offs) being absolute garbage in the AL? Not necessarily referring to people on this board, but there are Cardinals fans everywhere that I know who always act like we have no clue what we're doing letting Joel Pineiro, Julio Lugo, etc go.
Do you not realize:
1. Joel Pineiro was F'ing terrible for the Red Sox. He was such an embarassment we moved him to the long reliever role, and he couldn't even cut it there. What a joke.
2. Julio Lugo absolutely sucks. He rarely hit, and his defense was basically on a high school level.
3. John Smoltz was the suck of all suck for us. He had an ERA of over 8.00+. Seriously, think about that for a second.
These guys just freaking sucked in the AL, but you know, going to the NL Central can resurrect pretty much anyone's career... even 40+ year old starting pitchers who couldn't get anyone out. Just trying to compare the leagues is laughable.
1. Do you not realize that Joel Pinerio is pitching entirely differently now than he was with either the Mariners or the Red Sox? Just because someone doesn't perform for your beloved Red Sox and finds a way to get people out after working with the best pitching coach for a season doesn't mean they can't perform.
2. Lugo's best seasons up until this point have been playing in the AL with the Devil Rays.
3. Smoltz is pitching different in the NL; they were even discussing it tonight on ESPN. He's gone back to pounding the outside corner, no doubt influenced by Dave Duncan.
This decade alone, 4 AL teams and 4 NL teams have won a WS. You can take your AL teams and shove it.
Yeah, Pineiro pitching in the NL Central now has
nothing to do with him being a very effective pitcher does it?
Lugo used to be a fairly decent player. Then back around '06 he fell off a cliff.
Again, Smoltz pitching in the NL Central (and facing the Padres and Nationals) doesn't have anything to do with him being so successful in his brief stint back in the NL now does it? It's getting to the point where I don't have to make any case whatsoever - the facts are right in front of everyones eyes. Outside of a few select teams, the NL is a freaking joke. AAAA ball.
About the WS stat, the elite NL teams (like the Phillies and Cardinals this season) are often times just as good as the elite AL teams (Yankees, Angels), so yeah, it's not much of a surprise when one of them wins the whole thing. When comparing the two you have to look at the leagues as a whole, top to bottom. That's where the AL is better in a landslide.
And as crazy as this may sound, I have a ton of respect for the elite NL teams such as the Phillies, Cardinals, maybe the Dodgers/Rockies/Giants. Those are legit teams. I know this. It's the rest of the league that makes me laugh.
Also, nights like tonight are why I'm glad we didn't trade Clay Buchholz:
8 1/3 IP, 3 H, 9 K
He's quietly turning into a really good pitcher.
Quote from: RHS on August 29, 2009, 01:21:25 amI see you still haven't touched the "Boston can't do anything but buy talent. They never develop it" crap you brought up since you got owned on that particular subject.
(Shhhhh. Maybe if he continues to ignore it it will fade away and everyone will forget about it...)
That was probably his best line of defense after that debacle.
Paul Byrd vs Roy Halladay
Oh boy. This is not going to end well.
(http://www.channel4.com/food/images/mb/Channel4/4Food/features/top_10s_billb.jpg)
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on August 30, 2009, 12:37:49 pm
Paul Byrd vs Roy Halladay
Oh boy. This is not going to end well.
Red Sox 7
Blue Jays 0
W: Byrd - 6.0 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 3 BB, 1 SO
L: Halladay - 6.0 IP, 7 H, 4 R, 4 ER, 1 BB, 6 SO, 1 HR
I did not see that coming. That was Byrd's first start of the season!
In other news, the Rockies are on the verge of being swept by the Giants, and creating a tie atop the NL Wildcard standings between the two teams.
The Nationals it looks like have tapped out without Nyjer Morgan.
We really need to stay fighting down the stretch... Atleast today we traded Ronnie Belliard for a couple prospects. Can't complain too much.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on August 30, 2009, 12:37:49 pm
Paul Byrd vs Roy Halladay
Oh boy. This is not going to end well.
J, you're a prophet.
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Magic number = 22
Braves won 5-2 tonight and are 3 back of the Rockies and Giants in the WC race, but that 3-2 loss to the Phillies last night stings. It feels like we've lost a ton of 1 run games, but we're actually 21-19 in 1 run games. Which isn't terrible, but it definitely isn't good. In fact, good to great teams have a much better record than that in 1 run games. I didn't expect us to make the playoffs this year, so I should be happy we're even in the discussion with under 30 games to play, but losing 19 times by 1 run really takes a toll on ya over the course of a season. Couple that with the fact that we're 7-10 in 2 run games and it makes it that much worse. And in most of the 29 games we've lost by 1 or 2 runs was because we failed to score more than 1-3 runs. I know we don't have a good lineup. In fact calling it average would be generous. But seeing so many good outings by our starting pitchers go to waste sucks.
How about the Dodgers getting Thome & Garland? Not too impressed by the Garland pick up, but Thome scares me.
They said they plan on using Thome in PH situations right now. He isn't the same hitterhe used to be.
Can one of you guys explain to me the trading after the trade deadline?
A team will place a player on waivers, and then a teram has a certain amount of time to claim that player off of waivers. When a team does claim the player then a trade can be worked out between only those two teams.
Seriously, how horrible is this Rays crowd? This is a make or break series for them with the Red Sox, and the place is barely 1/3 full, and even so that's largely Sox fans.
How embarassing.
Good News: Holliday just hit a 3 run bomb to put the Cards up 7-4.
Bad News: Josh got 8 fantasy points because of it. ;D
Dear Toronto Blue Jays, especially Marco Scutaro, Aaron Hill, Lyle Overbay, and Rod Barajas---
Thanks for not showing up on a day you had a doubleheader. You could've really helped me out in my fantasy race.
Signed,
Disgruntled Fantasy Owner
(yes, I have four Blue Jays on one of my teams. At one point I even had six.)
Now 22
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on September 01, 2009, 09:26:36 pm
Dear Toronto Blue Jays, especially Marco Scutaro, Aaron Hill, Lyle Overbay, and Rod Barajas---
Thanks for not showing up on a day you had a doubleheader. You could've really helped me out in my fantasy race.
Signed,
Disgruntled Fantasy Owner
(yes, I have four Blue Jays on one of my teams. At one point I even had six.)
;D
They sure helped you out last night. I'm hoping they take tomorrow off as well.
To say the least, the Nationals have died offensively without Nyjer Morgan. Combine that with the fact we just moved Ronnie Belliard for a couple prospects, we no longer have an offense now that our pitching is showing a pulse.
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on September 01, 2009, 09:26:36 pm
Dear Toronto Blue Jays, especially Marco Scutaro, Aaron Hill, Lyle Overbay, and Rod Barajas---
Thanks for not showing up on a day you had a doubleheader. You could've really helped me out in my fantasy race.
Signed,
Disgruntled Fantasy Owner
(yes, I have four Blue Jays on one of my teams. At one point I even had six.)
Dear DFO,
Have you not realised we've gone into the Tampa Bay Devil Rays strategy? Were going to tank for this year and hope for some good draft picks.
Signed,
The Toronto Blue Jays.
Haha, fair enough.
Honestly, Hill and Scutaro have been revelations for me this year. They're a large reason why I'm still in the hunt for the league title.
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on September 02, 2009, 09:23:36 am
Haha, fair enough.
Honestly, Hill and Scutaro have been revelations for me this year. They're a large reason why I'm still in the hunt for the league title.
Scoots will gather 2 first rounders from whoever he signs with, Haladay will be traded over the summer and in 2011 or so Toronto will be back in contention with Lind, Snyder, Hill, Inglett, Aaron Cibia (play on words for those who dont want to use the letters J.P.) and the young pitching staff leading the way.
Card magic number = 19
I cannot believe how bad Joe Nathan choked yesterday. Twins are up 2-0 with 2 outs in the 9th and 2 strikes on Gordon Beckham. Nathan throws 3 straight sliders and Gordon holds off all of them. With a full count Gordon takes one yard to make it 2-1. Nathan gets an 0-2 count on Konerko, too. He does the exact same thing and gives up another solo shot on a full count to tie the game. We end up giving up 4 runs in the 9th with 2 outs to lose
Quote from: rsvl_hogfan4 on September 03, 2009, 06:25:00 pm
I cannot believe how bad Joe Nathan choked yesterday. Twins are up 2-0 with 2 outs in the 9th and 2 strikes on Gordon Beckham. Nathan throws 3 straight sliders and Gordon holds off all of them. With a full count Gordon takes one yard to make it 2-1. Nathan gets an 0-2 count on Konerko, too. He does the exact same thing and gives up another solo shot on a full count to tie the game. We end up giving up 4 runs in the 9th with 2 outs to lose
I will take credit for this. I turned to the game just in time to see Beckham's AB, and then watched it until the end. Sorry about that.
Quote from: dc24 on September 03, 2009, 11:52:24 pm
Quote from: rsvl_hogfan4 on September 03, 2009, 06:25:00 pm
I cannot believe how bad Joe Nathan choked yesterday. Twins are up 2-0 with 2 outs in the 9th and 2 strikes on Gordon Beckham. Nathan throws 3 straight sliders and Gordon holds off all of them. With a full count Gordon takes one yard to make it 2-1. Nathan gets an 0-2 count on Konerko, too. He does the exact same thing and gives up another solo shot on a full count to tie the game. We end up giving up 4 runs in the 9th with 2 outs to lose
I will take credit for this. I turned to the game just in time to see Beckham's AB, and then watched it until the end. Sorry about that.
Haha well I kind of helped, too. I texted my brother in law telling him we were going to move to within 2.5 of Detroit and that Nathan had it easily.
Quote from: rsvl_hogfan4 on September 03, 2009, 11:58:03 pm
Quote from: dc24 on September 03, 2009, 11:52:24 pm
Quote from: rsvl_hogfan4 on September 03, 2009, 06:25:00 pm
I cannot believe how bad Joe Nathan choked yesterday. Twins are up 2-0 with 2 outs in the 9th and 2 strikes on Gordon Beckham. Nathan throws 3 straight sliders and Gordon holds off all of them. With a full count Gordon takes one yard to make it 2-1. Nathan gets an 0-2 count on Konerko, too. He does the exact same thing and gives up another solo shot on a full count to tie the game. We end up giving up 4 runs in the 9th with 2 outs to lose
I will take credit for this. I turned to the game just in time to see Beckham's AB, and then watched it until the end. Sorry about that.
Haha well I kind of helped, too. I texted my brother in law telling him we were going to move to within 2.5 of Detroit and that Nathan had it easily.
Haha yeah, it's never over until the final out.
I heard thisstat this morning; Lincecum has given up 2 runs or less seven times this season and either suffered a loss or got a no decision. Seven outings this year giving up 2 runs or less and no wins! Talk about no run support.
Quote from: AB™ on September 04, 2009, 07:15:41 am
I heard thisstat this morning; Lincecum has given up 2 runs or less seven times this season and either suffered a loss or got a no decision. Seven outings this year giving up 2 runs or less and no wins! Talk about no run support.
Disgruntled Fantasy Owner shakes his head. (Sigh)
Quote from: AB™ on September 04, 2009, 07:15:41 am
I heard thisstat this morning; Lincecum has given up 2 runs or less seven times this season and either suffered a loss or got a no decision. Seven outings this year giving up 2 runs or less and no wins! Talk about no run support.
Just out of curiosity, I checked Wainwright and Carpenter on that same stat.
Wainwright has 9 games that he has given up 2 runs or fewer and got the loss or no decision. In 5 of his 7 losses, he gave up 2 runs or fewer.
Carpenter has 3 no decision in games he gave up 2 runs or less.
Dan Haren has 8 games with no decision or loss and only 2 runs or less given up. in 6 of his 8 losses, he gave up 2 or less.
All of Lincecum's 2 runs or less given up were no decisions. I couldn't find a loss charged to him where he gave up 2 runs or less.
Matt Cain has 7 no decisions also.
Josh Johnson has 5
Happ also has 5.
So, in summary, Lincecum's are impressive, but he got no losses from that. Haren and Wainwright were both hurt bad by getting losses in a lot of those games.
Pedro was incredible last night. I'm very happy to see him pitch so well since returning. 7 IP, ER, 9 K.
Also, the Red Sox won a series in Tampa for the first time in TWO YEARS, effectively burying them for good in the Wild Card race. Rejoice!
September 3rd @ Philly. 7 IP, 4 H, 2 ER and a loss.
Quote from: MikeDiesel™ on September 04, 2009, 11:59:58 am
So, in summary, Lincecum's are impressive, but he got no losses from that. Haren and Wainwright were both hurt bad by getting losses in a lot of those games.
I'm almost positive Lincecum got charged with a loss last night. That's only one though.
Quote from: RHS on September 04, 2009, 12:20:17 pm
September 3rd @ Philly. 7 IP, 4 H, 2 ER and a loss.
Oops, I did miss that one. It still doesnt' compare to Wainwright's and Haren's though.
Quote from: MikeDiesel™ on September 04, 2009, 12:44:28 pm
Quote from: RHS on September 04, 2009, 12:20:17 pm
September 3rd @ Philly. 7 IP, 4 H, 2 ER and a loss.
Oops, I did miss that one. It still doesnt' compare to Wainwright's and Haren's though.
He's one off of Haren's and 2 off of WW. I'd say he's in the same ballpark, at least of Haren. It's not like those two have 8 and 9 while he has 4.
Here's the difference when we just look at the wins/losses stat:
Right now:
Lincecum: 13-5
Wainwright: 16-7
Haren: 13-8
If they didn't have those losses:
Lincecum: 13-4
Wainwright: 16-2
Haren: 13-2
As it is now, Lincecum seems to have a little bit of an advantage. If those 2 ER losses didn't count against them, then Wainwright has the distinct advantage and Haren looks better than Linc also.
Now, it's really pointless considering that wins/losses are just as much a team issue as it is an individual issue. But, a lot of people/voters look at those stats when determing the Cy Young award.
Quote from: AB™ on September 04, 2009, 12:41:50 pm
Quote from: MikeDiesel™ on September 04, 2009, 11:59:58 am
So, in summary, Lincecum's are impressive, but he got no losses from that. Haren and Wainwright were both hurt bad by getting losses in a lot of those games.
I'm almost positive Lincecum got charged with a loss last night. That's only one though.
He did. I went back and checked his games again to make sure I didn't miss another one.
I guess if you count the no decisions as wins instead, it looks like this:
Lincecum 19-4
Wainwright 20-2
Haren 15-2
I don't know who I'd vote for if I had a Cy Young vote. All 3 have definitely earned it.
Wainwright: best wins of the 3.
Haren: best WHIP
Lincecum: best ERA and K's.
Josh, I thought you'd like this fake quote of the week on sportspickle:
"Cliff Lee, John Smoltz, me. I would really encourage all of my fellow American League pitchers to come over to the National League. You make the same money and the work is half as hard."
- Brad Penny
Quote from: MikeDiesel™ on September 04, 2009, 02:47:22 pm
Josh, I thought you'd like this fake quote of the week on sportspickle:
"Cliff Lee, John Smoltz, me. I would really encourage all of my fellow American League pitchers to come over to the National League. You make the same money and the work is half as hard."
- Brad Penny
I know that's a fake quote, but it's 100% truth.
No one can really refute that.
I don't know about that Josh. Cliff Lee has looked very average in his last two starts against two "average" NL teams. ;D
They needed to do it a long time ago, but the Cubs pretty much officially threw in the towel today when word got out that Soriano is going to have arthroscopic surgery later this month. We're on wild card life support, but with as well as the Giants and Rockies are playing, there's no way it's happening. Now is the time for the Cubs to get their young talent up and get them some experience on the big league level. We have some pretty good young guys who could really help out next year. Like I said, they needed to throw in the towel about a month ago. Now, here's hoping they find some way to get rid of Carlos Zambrano and Milton Bradley in the offseason and get a closer who's worth a darn.
Chris Carpenter just made his case for the Cy Young.
A complete game one hitter with 10 strikeouts on only 99 pitches.
Magic number is now 14.
A nice 39 fantasy points to boot. Helping me on my late drive towards 2nd.
Carpenter would have my vote without flinching.
Quote from: jbell96 on September 07, 2009, 03:32:32 pm
Magic number is now 14.
Don't be conservative. Your magic number is 0.
Quote from: SMC on September 07, 2009, 04:03:44 pm
Quote from: jbell96 on September 07, 2009, 03:32:32 pm
Magic number is now 14.
Don't be conservative. Your magic number is 0.
Not being conservative, just being modest. ;D
Matt Holiday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Two run shot in the 9th off the save king Hoffman to take the lead!!!!!!!!
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on September 08, 2009, 10:20:19 pm
Matt Holiday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Two run shot in the 9th off the save king Hoffman to take the lead!!!!!!!!
W00t!!!!
YEaH for HOffman, Crap on my fantasy team. Although Hoffman has been pretty solid for me most of the year.
Holliday came out of today's game against the Brewers. Did he get hurt?
EDIT: Holliday left the game with a bruised knee. It was just a precautionary move so there is nothing to worry about.
Albert with two bombs today to move him up to 47 on the year.
Quote from: jbell96 on September 09, 2009, 02:29:20 pm
Holliday came out of today's game against the Brewers. Did he get hurt?
EDIT: Holliday left the game with a bruised knee. It was just a precautionary move so there is nothing to worry about.
Albert with two bombs today to move him up to 47 on the year.
and within 1 rbi of Fielder.
Too bad Hanley is is 30 points ahead of him in batting average
In Albert we trust.
And with 21 games still to play, I think it's safe to say this is the year Albert breaks the 50 HR mark in a season. Unless he shuts it down, slumps majorly, or Tony shuts him down, I think we can safely say he'll hit 3 more homers in the next 21 games. The question is, how much over 50 can he go?
Albert is having a career year which is saying quite a bit for him.
Here are his current 2009 stats and his career high next to it.
09/Career High(or previous career high)
HR: 47/49
RBI: 121/137
R: 114/137
BB: 104/104(got 104 in '08)
IBB: 40/34
OBP: .449/.462
Slg%: .687/.671(in '06)
OPS: 1.136/1.114(in '08)
SB: 14/16
Quote from: AB™ on September 09, 2009, 04:43:03 pm
SB: 14/16
I know this isn't a ton of stolen bases, but this stat still amazes me every time I see it.
Quote from: MikeDiesel™ on September 09, 2009, 06:14:45 pm
Quote from: AB™ on September 09, 2009, 04:43:03 pm
SB: 14/16
I know this isn't a ton of stolen bases, but this stat still amazes me every time I see it.
Same here. A 50/15 season is very likely for him which is the equivalent of a 35/30 or 30/35 season. You don't think of Pujols stealing bases but the fact that he's good for 10-15 a year makes him even more valuable.
He led the Cardinals in stolen bases in 2005 with those 16 swipes. Now, if Reggie Sanders had played that entire season, Pujols wouldn't have led that category. Sanders had 14 bags in half the at bats. But, a 1B leading a team in stolen bases.
Quote from: MikeDiesel™ on September 09, 2009, 06:14:45 pm
Quote from: AB™ on September 09, 2009, 04:43:03 pm
SB: 14/16
I know this isn't a ton of stolen bases, but this stat still amazes me every time I see it.
He knows when to pick his spots. Also does a great job running the bases in general.
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_SbIonXD_QzA/SfaFPUW5rNI/AAAAAAAABtY/K_sey6uhU-A/s400/wve-white-flag-260.jpg)
Final straw on the Braves season tonight. Bring on next year.
In all honesty we weren't going to win the Wild Card. Us being in the discussion this late in the season with an offense as bas as ours was a miracle in itself. Hopefully we'll sign a big bat or two in the offseason to go along with our top notch pitching staff.
4 straight seasons of Atlanta missing the playoffs.
For a while I never thought I'd see that.
The Cardinals Magic number is: 12
It has to be pointed out that the Braves swept those playoff bound Cards. Though the thrill wasn't what it would have been if we hadn't gone into the tank last week.
Shelled Carpenter too. I woulda never guessed that with our poor hitting as of late.
Quote from: QF© on September 13, 2009, 03:59:39 pm
It has to be pointed out that the Braves swept those playoff bound Cards. Though the thrill wasn't what it would have been if we hadn't gone into the tank last week.
Shelled Carpenter too. I woulda never guessed that with our poor hitting as of late.
And it matters how?
Hopefully this sweep will help us refocus on the task at hand.
The moment the Braves are eliminated is the moment the Cards move from #2 to #1 for me. ATL just delayed it a little bit.
Quote from: Ty on September 13, 2009, 04:20:04 pm
Quote from: QF© on September 13, 2009, 03:59:39 pm
It has to be pointed out that the Braves swept those playoff bound Cards. Though the thrill wasn't what it would have been if we hadn't gone into the tank last week.
Shelled Carpenter too. I woulda never guessed that with our poor hitting as of late.
And it matters how?
Far as I can tell, they are still keeping score and counting wins. I dang sure cheer for my team even when it's bleak. If you don't understand that, so be it.
But a review of the Braves O this past 10 days would certainly show this explosion versus Carpenter to be a surprise to Braves fan.
Thank goodness this happened over the weekend and I was distracted by football.
We have been a hit or miss team all season. We go through 5-10 game stretches where we are as good as anyone in baseball because our offense is producing. Then our offense will go in the tank for a couple of weeks and we go back to being a slightly below average team. So frustrating, but then again we don't have one overly fearsome bat in our lineup.
Atlanta needs a power-hitting first baseman, like they had w/ Texeira (sp). They haven't had a consistent power-hitting 1B since McGriff and Galarraga. Say what you want, but LaRoche shouldn't even be in the bigs IMO. Also, no one aside from Jones and maybe McCann has the it factor that was present on all the Braves NLCS teams of the 90's and early 00's.
Well as much as I agree with most of that, I can't see past that silly statement that Adam doesn't belong in the majors. That's quite the exaggeration.
Quote from: QF© on September 13, 2009, 08:01:22 pm
Well as much as I agree with most of that, I can't see past that silly statement that Adam doesn't belong in the majors. That's quite the exaggeration.
He doesn't. But he's not the only one. There are plenty of players around that league that don't belong. It's a negative result of expanding to 30 teams.
Well, that could be said for pratically every position. That being said, I still think you overstated that one.
Quote from: QF© on September 13, 2009, 08:12:38 pm
Well, that could be said for pratically every position. That being said, I still think you overstated that one.
Trust me, as a Braves fan it pains me to say it. Would it have been more applicable had I noted the same regarding Kelly Johnson? These guys wouldn't have seen the field during the dynasty years save an occasional spot start or pinch-hitting role. And like I said, it's not just the Braves roster. Look at all the cellar-dwelling teams around the league - how many on those rosters don't have any business being in the bigs?
Oh no doubt it's diluted. I just think Adam is not a poster child for it. Who is this Kelly Johnson? ;)
Quote from: QF© on September 13, 2009, 08:29:59 pm
Oh no doubt it's diluted. I just think Adam is not a poster child for it. Who is this Kelly Johnson? ;)
I don't know, it just seems to me the guy strikes out more than he puts the ball in play. Maybe I'm too harsh.
Oh, and by Kelly Johnson, I mean the guy who's barely above the Mendoza line, who sometimes plays some decent second base.
Quote from: Chief_Osceola™ on September 13, 2009, 07:54:19 pm
Atlanta needs a power-hitting first baseman, like they had w/ Texeira (sp). They haven't had a consistent power-hitting 1B since McGriff and Galarraga. Say what you want, but LaRoche shouldn't even be in the bigs IMO. Also, no one aside from Jones and maybe McCann has the it factor that was present on all the Braves NLCS teams of the 90's and early 00's.
Agreed, except for the LaRoche comment. I don't know if I think LaRoche is an every day caliber player but he'd be a nice bat to have on the bench in a PH situation. McCann is a good 5 hole hitter and Chipper at this point is a solid 3 hole hitter but would probably be better suited lower in the order. I've been saying it all year long, but we need to get a big bat in our lineup and it'd be nice if it was a 1B. We're going to have our entire pitching staff intact next year, plus Hudson, so we'll have to do something with someone. Our pitching rotation is very good. I'd stack our rotation up(1-5)with anyone's in the majors.
Some of the W-L numbers don't reflect it but we've got some guys putting up great numbers.
Vazquez: 13-9, 3.01 ERA, 1.05 WHIP, 216 K, .228 BAA, 5.40 K/BB, 1.82 BB/9, 9.85 K/9, 7.62 H/9
Jurrjens: 11-10, 2.81 ERA, 1.14 WHIP, 133 K, .243 BAA, 1.94 K/BB, 3.27 BB/9, 6.44 K/9, 7.98 H/9
Hanson: 9-3, 2.83 ERA, 1.20 WHIP, 85 K, .230 BAA, 2.36 K/BB, 3.19 BB/9, 7.52 K/9, 7.61 H/9
For all intents and purposes, Vazquez is putting up Cy Young caliber numbers outside of his W-L record. He's having a sick year. Kawakami had a slow start to the season but he's been very good for us since the All-Star break and Lowe has been solid as well. We will have a very good 1-2-3 punch next year in Vazquez-Hanson-Jurrjens, and the future is set at pitcher in Jurrjens and Hanson. We just need to go out and get a big bat and a little more speed.
While I'm still not conviced re: LaRoche, I do think they have a great future w/ their pitching staff. I don't know, maybe you guys are seeing something that I haven't.
Chief, I didn't even know you liked the Braves. I wasn't sure you had a favorite team.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on September 13, 2009, 10:24:52 pm
Chief, I didn't even know you liked the Braves. I wasn't sure you had a favorite team.
I grew up watching/liking the Braves - Dale Murphy is my favorite of all-time. I've liked the Twins since they picked up Joe Mauer, and my son is a hardcore Red Sox/Pedroia fan.
Quote from: Chief_Osceola™ on September 13, 2009, 10:29:04 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on September 13, 2009, 10:24:52 pm
Chief, I didn't even know you liked the Braves. I wasn't sure you had a favorite team.
I grew up watching/liking the Braves - Dale Murphy is my favorite of all-time. I've liked the Twins since they picked up Joe Mauer, and my son is a hardcore Red Sox/Pedroia fan.
I remember you saying that a while back about your son. Did he just pick out Pedroia one day or what?
Speaking of the MVP, he hit an opposite field 2 run HR today into the bullpen at Fenway. Now that requires some strength. It was his first career oppo homer. We also swept the doubleheader with TB today to sweep the series. That Wild Card lead is growing larger by the day. :)
Quote from: Chief_Osceola™ on September 13, 2009, 10:09:02 pm
While I'm still not conviced re: LaRoche, I do think they have a great future w/ their pitching staff. I don't know, maybe you guys are seeing something that I haven't.
I'm not sold on LaRoche as a long term solution either. I just think having him on the bench isn't a terrible idea since he does have a little bit of pop in his bat. Jurjjens and Hanson could be MLB's scariest 1-2 combo in a couple of years. Both are still very young and have a lot of talent.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on September 13, 2009, 10:33:51 pm
Quote from: Chief_Osceola™ on September 13, 2009, 10:29:04 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on September 13, 2009, 10:24:52 pm
Chief, I didn't even know you liked the Braves. I wasn't sure you had a favorite team.
I grew up watching/liking the Braves - Dale Murphy is my favorite of all-time. I've liked the Twins since they picked up Joe Mauer, and my son is a hardcore Red Sox/Pedroia fan.
I remember you saying that a while back about your son. Did he just pick out Pedroia one day or what?
Likes his attitude and the way he plays the game. He wants to take over his spot at 2B when he gets old enough to get drafted. He was playing MLB 2K9 one day and hit a homer w/ Pedroia. In the ensuing animation, Pedroia watched his shot and walked the first few steps to first. My son thought that was awesome.
Quote from: QF© on September 13, 2009, 03:59:39 pm
It has to be pointed out that the Braves swept those playoff bound Cards. Though the thrill wasn't what it would have been if we hadn't gone into the tank last week.
Shelled Carpenter too. I woulda never guessed that with our poor hitting as of late.
You know me and you know I'm not trying to start anything here, but this sweep coupled with what the Cubs did could bring about something interesting. I'm not saying it will happen, but it's possible (only a slight chance) that this could happen:
The Cardinals play the Marlins starting today in a three game set. The Cubs start one against the Brewers. Say the Cardinals lose two out of three and the Cubs take two of three from the Brewers. That puts Chicago at 7.5 games back heading into the three game set against the Cardinals at St. Louis this weekend. This series would become absolutely massive, and the Cards go to Colorado to play the hottest team in baseball right now immediately afterwards.
Again, not trying to start anything. Believe me, as a Cubs fan, I know this is a long shot and the Cardinals are probably going to win the division. But if the cards fall right (no pun intended), it could be a very interesting division race over the last couple of weeks of the season.
Dice-K Matsuzaka FTW
Holy crap. Welcome back. And this wasn't against the Padres either. The Angels have the hottest lineup in baseball these days averaging 6 runs per.
6 IP, 3 H, 0 ER, 5 K
Back at you with Tommy Hanson tonight and for the entire time he's been up. :) Heck they pen has blown 4 winds for him too.
He's sooooooooo good.
Quote from: QF© on September 15, 2009, 08:21:40 pm
Back at you with Tommy Hanson tonight and for the entire time he's been up. :) Heck they pen has blown 4 winds for him too.
He's sooooooooo good.
Hanson is the truth.
If we can get this Dice-K back and ready, wow, how huge is this for the playoffs? He hit 94 tonight. He hasn't been at 93-94 since '08. What a great night.
Quote from: QF© on September 15, 2009, 08:21:40 pm
Back at you with Tommy Hanson tonight and for the entire time he's been up. :) Heck they pen has blown 4 winds for him too.
He's sooooooooo good.
Tommy Hanson, just turned 23. Since he's been the most heralded pitching prospect the last few years not named David Price, we all know he has the potential to be great. I think he may be just one or two yeas away from making the leap from great rookie, to one of the game's best pitchers. He's got a very lively ball, can place his pitches very well for a young pitcher, and already has more than one out pitch.
Jair Jurrjens, 23(turns 24 in January), another young stud who may not quite have the stuff to be the ace of a playoff caliber team, but he definitely has the stuff to be a great second pitcher on a good team. He very well could prove me wrong, and show me he has the kind of stuff to be a legit ace. I wouldn't mind having two of those on the team. :D
Javier Vazquez, just turned 33, having a career year. Going back to the NL was definitely a good thing for him. I know 33 isn't young, but I think he could come close to pitching this effectively for another 4-6 years in the NL.
These three guys(mainly Hanson and Jurrjens)are the only reason I have been able to keep my sanity and hopes up as a Braves fan for next year. McCann is another good young center piece, and we've got McLouth now. I just hope our FO figures out our glaring weaknesses, which I've talked about ad nausem on here, and makes the moves to correct them in the offseason. Because the pitching is definitely there to be a world series contender with the right offense.
Justin, do you have any faith whatsoever in your front office?
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on September 15, 2009, 09:38:58 pm
Justin, do you have any faith whatsoever in your front office?
Some. Only because of the moves we made to bring in Lowe, Vazquez, and Kawakami in the offseason. And we went and stole McLouth from the Pirates mid-sesaon. I don't have as much as I used to, but I do still have some faith.
HAHAHAHAHAHA
I LOVE THAT DIRTY WATER
I still find it funny while watching the Rockies Giants game that the so called "ace" of the Rockies, De La Rosa, started out as a Natural last season.
The Mariners just beat the Yankees 3-2. Felix pitched a complete game, but was down 2-1 in the ninth. Rivera got the first two outs, but then Mike Sweeney hit a pinch hit double and Ichiro hits the walk off homer!!! Mariners win!!!!
Cubs you may officially consider your season over. Your friends in St. Louis.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on September 19, 2009, 03:50:32 am
Cubs you may officially consider your season over. Your friends in St. Louis.
You're a little late. We've considered our season to be over for a while now.
Eff You Ryan Franklin. Quit blowing saves jack hole.
Great 8 inning shutout, no-decision for Carp, but Frankliin gets the win after giving up a run
Quote from: Chris Murphy on September 19, 2009, 03:52:01 am
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on September 19, 2009, 03:50:32 am
Cubs you may officially consider your season over. Your friends in St. Louis.
You're a little late. We've considered our season to be over for a while now.
Yea, since like 1908!
Quote from: jbell96 on September 19, 2009, 05:31:50 pm
Eff You Ryan Franklin. Quit blowing saves jack hole.
Franklin appears done. I know Tony will be the last one to realize it, but Boggs needs to be inserted into the closer role.
Quote from: jbell96 on September 19, 2009, 05:31:50 pm
Eff You Ryan Franklin. Quit blowing saves jack hole.
I sure am glad yall just gave him an extension.
Just in time for the playoffs. :)
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on September 19, 2009, 09:33:30 pm
Quote from: jbell96 on September 19, 2009, 05:31:50 pm
Eff You Ryan Franklin. Quit blowing saves jack hole.
I sure am glad yall just gave him an extension.
Just in time for the playoffs. :)
I was more ticked that it cost me 10 fantasy points. You look to be running away with our league now. FML.
Quote from: Chris Murphy on September 19, 2009, 03:52:01 am
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on September 19, 2009, 03:50:32 am
Cubs you may officially consider your season over. Your friends in St. Louis.
You're a little late. We've considered our season to be over for a while now.
Considering I read a post earlier this week in which you expressed hope about making a race out of it I had to officially let it be known. :)
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on September 20, 2009, 12:15:51 am
Quote from: Chris Murphy on September 19, 2009, 03:52:01 am
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on September 19, 2009, 03:50:32 am
Cubs you may officially consider your season over. Your friends in St. Louis.
You're a little late. We've considered our season to be over for a while now.
Considering I read a post earlier this week in which you expressed hope about making a race out of it I had to officially let it be known. :)
Oh I admitted that was a long shot. even if all of that had played out we have a 4 game set at San Francisco coming up. I was just hoping we'd at least make it interesting down the stretch. I'm not surprised we haven't though. We're doing the same thing we've done all year. We have a stretch where we play really well and then give it all back. I accepted a while back that we'd finish around .500 this year. I just wish that Pinella would get the guys from the minors some more playing time, because we have some good talent down there. Before he started mucking up in left field this series, Bobby Scales has shown some promise, and Jake Fox has been a beast for us this year when he's actually gotten a chance to play. Three things I want to see this off-season for the Cubs: Milton Bradley gone, Mark Derosa signed (he did say he wants to come back), and if Lou Pinella is canned, I want Jim Hendry to take a good, long look at Ryne Sandberg for manager. He's done some really good things managing in the Cubs farm system. We also need a new hitting coach. Badly.
If DeRosa wants to go back to the Cubs hes an idiot.
Meh. Maybe he just likes the city of Chicago better than St. Louis.
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on September 20, 2009, 05:24:16 pm
Meh. Maybe he just likes the city of Chicago better than St. Louis.
If he likes winning, he'll stay in St. Louis.
What did DeRosa say?
Here's a quote from a British newspaper today, talking about fake Twitter accounts.
"Twitter has decided to act after Tony La Russa, the coach of an obscure American baseball team, launched a legal action over a fake account. He claimed that postings in which he appeared to make light of the death of two of his players had been 'hurtful'."
If the Cardinals are an obscure baseball team, what does that make everyone else not named the Red Sox, Yankees, or Dodgers?
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on September 20, 2009, 06:45:04 pm
What did DeRosa say?
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-19-cubs-bits-chicago-sep19,0,5938779.story?obref=obnetwork (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-19-cubs-bits-chicago-sep19,0,5938779.story?obref=obnetwork)
I will go ahead and ask on the Cubs behalf if we can trade you back Aaron Miles for Mark DeRosa?
I mean, you guys just LOVED Miles. But now he is OPSing .460!
Players for the Cubs this year OPSing better than Miles:
Joey Gathright (who was cut) - .481
Sean Marshall (relief pitcher) - .516
Koyie Hill (backup catcher) - .645
Tom Gorzelanny (pitcher) - .661
Andres Blanco (defensive replacement 2B/SS) - .680
Carlos Zambrano (pitcher) - .681
Mike Fontenot (2B who has been regarded as a bust this yr) - .691
Sam Fuld (late inning defensive replacement OF) - .722
Reed Johnson (backup OF) - .722
Chris, this is what I want for the Cubs this offseason
1. Dump Miles and I don't care if we have to eat his entire salary for next year. Send him packing and do it yesterday.
2. Offer Harden arbitration. If we have to overpay, let him walk and let Gorzelanny start.
3. Try to trade Bradley and let Fox/Hoffpauir platoon RF if we can't find a decent free agent OF at a good price.
4. Get rid of Kevin Gregg and go sign one of the Braves' free agent RP (preferrably Soriano, but if we can't get him, Mike Gonzalez). If it's Soriano, let him close with Marmol setting up. If it's Gonzalez, let him set up Marmol.
5. Lou and Hendry can get on the first bus out of Cook County
One thing that will be done almost assuredly, that I'm not that high on, is that we will sign Chone Figgins to play 2B. That does give us a true leadoff man who can play 2B and 3B (big deal with Ramirez often injured).
Quote from: Ty on September 20, 2009, 06:52:21 pm
Here's a quote from a British newspaper today, talking about fake Twitter accounts.
"Twitter has decided to act after Tony La Russa, the coach of an obscure American baseball team, launched a legal action over a fake account. He claimed that postings in which he appeared to make light of the death of two of his players had been ‘hurtful’."
If the Cardinals are an obscure baseball team, what does that make everyone else not named the Red Sox, Yankees, or Dodgers?
I'm still trying to find which American League division the Cardinals are in.
Quote from: SMC on September 20, 2009, 07:54:46 pm
Chris, this is what I want for the Cubs this offseason
1. Dump Miles and I don't care if we have to eat his entire salary for next year. Send him packing and do it yesterday.
2. Offer Harden arbitration. If we have to overpay, let him walk and let Gorzelanny start.
3. Try to trade Bradley and let Fox/Hoffpauir platoon RF if we can't find a decent free agent OF at a good price.
4. Get rid of Kevin Gregg and go sign one of the Braves' free agent RP (preferrably Soriano, but if we can't get him, Mike Gonzalez). If it's Soriano, let him close with Marmol setting up. If it's Gonzalez, let him set up Marmol.
5. Lou and Hendry can get on the first bus out of Cook County
One thing that will be done almost assuredly, that I'm not that high on, is that we will sign Chone Figgins to play 2B. That does give us a true leadoff man who can play 2B and 3B (big deal with Ramirez often injured).
I agree with you on Miles. People have been so focused on Milton Bradley that the fact that he has been an utter waste of a contract has gone unnoticed this year. I think his BA is flirting with or below the Mendoza line, as well. I think we need to dump him and do everything we can to bring back DeRosa.
I'd like to see Harden come back, but since we have Gorzelanny, I won't be too upset if he doesn't come back. Injuries aside, Harden has some great stuff and he will more than likely be too expensive for us to re-sign this year. Since we've picked him up, Gorzelanny has been very solid for us.
I'd be all for platooning Hoffpauir and Fox in RF. Both of them have been very solid this year and can play both infield and outfield. It's nice to have Hoffpauir around for the days that D-Lee can't play and Fox has shown that he can play just about anywhere on the field. We need to keep Fox around for a long time. Plus, if we sign Figgins, we can keep him at 2B and get rid of Fontenot and we can use Fox to backup Aramis when he gets hurt.
One last thing I'd like to see that Cardinal fans will scoff at: Dave Duncan signed as pitching coach. Word has it that he's ready to leave St. Louis. If so, they can find another job for Larry Rothschild to make room for Duncan.
Duncan leaving StL would be a dream come true. I'm so tired of seeing Joel Pineiro type pitchers turn into Sandy Koufax.
You mean....Jason Simontacchi? Todd Stottlemyer? Kent Bottenfield?
Those type pitchers? :)
BTW, anybody else watching the game on ESPN right now?
Albert Pujols is the third man up in the bottom of the 9th in a 3-3 game.
On the other hand, Aaron Miles just struck out looking with two on, two out to end the top half.
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on September 20, 2009, 10:08:46 pm
On the other hand, Aaron Miles just struck out looking with two on to end the top half.
I was just about to write about this. I was hacked off enough about the Cubs this year as it is. Now Lou, with runners on first and second and Derrek Lee on deck, sends up Aaron Miles--BA .181, OBP .221. It's past time for Lou to go. This s**t got old a long time ago.
Wow, bush league move by Matt Holliday there.
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on September 20, 2009, 10:25:24 pm
Wow, bush league move by Matt Holliday there.
I found it ridiculous that he tried to argue it too. If you look at the video, it's obvious he was sliding for Theriot and not the bag.
What about the Bean ball at Ryan the 2nd inning?
Quote from: AB™ on September 20, 2009, 08:27:55 pm
Quote from: Ty on September 20, 2009, 06:52:21 pm
Here's a quote from a British newspaper today, talking about fake Twitter accounts.
"Twitter has decided to act after Tony La Russa, the coach of an obscure American baseball team, launched a legal action over a fake account. He claimed that postings in which he appeared to make light of the death of two of his players had been 'hurtful'."
If the Cardinals are an obscure baseball team, what does that make everyone else not named the Red Sox, Yankees, or Dodgers?
I'm still trying to find which American League division the Cardinals are in.
American as in the United States of America. Like saying Man U is a British football team instead of a Premier League team.
I think referring to the Cardinals as an obscure baseball team is about the equivalent of referring to Chelseas as an obscure football team.
It would've probably been different had it been a team from L.A., Chicago, or N.Y.
I doubt many Britons have a clue who the Cardinals are, even with their success.
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on September 20, 2009, 11:19:54 pm
It would've probably been different had it been a team from L.A., Chicago, or N.Y.
I doubt many Britons have a clue who the Cardinals are, even with their success.
Everyone in the world knows who Albert Pujols is.
Or at least they should.
Quote from: Ty on September 20, 2009, 11:15:00 pm
Quote from: AB™ on September 20, 2009, 08:27:55 pm
Quote from: Ty on September 20, 2009, 06:52:21 pm
Here's a quote from a British newspaper today, talking about fake Twitter accounts.
"Twitter has decided to act after Tony La Russa, the coach of an obscure American baseball team, launched a legal action over a fake account. He claimed that postings in which he appeared to make light of the death of two of his players had been ‘hurtful’."
If the Cardinals are an obscure baseball team, what does that make everyone else not named the Red Sox, Yankees, or Dodgers?
I'm still trying to find which American League division the Cardinals are in.
American as in the United States of America. Like saying Man U is a British football team instead of a Premier League team.
I think referring to the Cardinals as an obscure baseball team is about the equivalent of referring to Chelseas as an obscure football team.
My bad. When I read "American" I saw 'League' in my mind as well.
Quote from: AB™ on September 20, 2009, 11:43:25 pm
Quote from: Ty on September 20, 2009, 11:15:00 pm
Quote from: AB™ on September 20, 2009, 08:27:55 pm
Quote from: Ty on September 20, 2009, 06:52:21 pm
Here's a quote from a British newspaper today, talking about fake Twitter accounts.
"Twitter has decided to act after Tony La Russa, the coach of an obscure American baseball team, launched a legal action over a fake account. He claimed that postings in which he appeared to make light of the death of two of his players had been 'hurtful'."
If the Cardinals are an obscure baseball team, what does that make everyone else not named the Red Sox, Yankees, or Dodgers?
I'm still trying to find which American League division the Cardinals are in.
American as in the United States of America. Like saying Man U is a British football team instead of a Premier League team.
I think referring to the Cardinals as an obscure baseball team is about the equivalent of referring to Chelseas as an obscure football team.
My bad. When I read "American" I saw 'League' in my mind as well.
Haha, I can see how it would easily be done. If I hear the word American while talking baseball, I would assume the AL as well.
No huge surprise here. The Astros fired Cecil Cooper today, effective immediately.
The DeRosa quotes to me just sound like someone who doesn't want to burn any bridges because they are possibly going to be a free agent. Not like someone who is wanting to go back there over anyone.
With the rest of the regular season just a formality for the Red Sox (AL East is long gone, Wild Card is locked up) it can make the last 10 games drag a little bit. Just rest guys and try to avoid injuries.
I also think the Cardinals are without a doubt the favorite in the NL. Obviously Carpenter/Wainwright is sick, but with Brad Lidge having a horrendus season for Philly they don't have anyone to close out games anymore. I can't make them the favorite with the lack of stability in the bullpen.
For Pete's(or ATL fans) sake would someone please get the Cards to won the rest of their Colorado series.
Please.
We did our part tonight.
2009 CENTRAL DIVISION CHAMPS!!!
Twins are on fire, but Detroit has started rolling again, too. The Twins have won 11 of their last 12 games, and are currently on a 5 game winning streak. Hopefully Detroit loses tomorrow, because I feel pretty confident we will lose. We are facing Greinke, and Liriano is pitching. I would be surprised if we won. Monday we start a series against Detroit. We finish at home with Kansas City, so we really cannot afford to lose any ground going into our series with Detroit.
The Twins have the best record vs the Central, and own every series vs division opponents. We just really struggled against the East. That killed us. I am not sure if we will win the Central, but I will be pretty mad if we don't because I honestly think we are the best team in the Central. We have definitely appeared to be head to head, at least.
Thank you St. Louis! Now we are just 2.5 back of the Rockies in the WC standings. This has been of Bobby Cox's best managing jobs in a while. With 8 games left, we have an outside shot at winning 90 games which is pretty good for a team that has no offense and a lot of people were picking to finish 3rd or 4th in the division this year. I doubt we catch the Rockies, but this Braves team has had a lot of scrap in it and I won't be dissapointed about this season regardless if we make the playoffs or not.
Braves win, Rockies losing come on St. Louis, never thought I would hear myself say that.
knock on wood
I'm trying not to jinx it.
Colorado up 4-3 in the 6th.
Come on Rockies. Hold on to that WC.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on September 27, 2009, 04:19:35 pm
Colorado up 4-3 in the 6th.
Come on Rockies. Hold on to that WC.
Oh come on, you can show some compassion to the Braves for my sake. I know you've told me before you've always kind of liked them. ;D
Quote from: AB™ on September 27, 2009, 04:20:59 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on September 27, 2009, 04:19:35 pm
Colorado up 4-3 in the 6th.
Come on Rockies. Hold on to that WC.
Oh come on, you can show some compassion to the Braves for my sake. I know you've told me before you've always kind of liked them. ;D
Nah, that's ok. I had enough of the Braves in the 90s and early 2000s.
Plus, the Rockies are my 2nd favorite team anyway. I want these guys in the post-season.
Pujols made a bonehead play to cost the Cards. Down 4-3 in the 9th with one out & runners on the corners, Ludwick blooped one to shallow right. Barmes made an awesome diving catch & Pujols ended up being doubled off 1st to end the game. Worst thing that happens if Barmes doesn't catch it is a force out at 2nd with the game tied.
Needless to say, I uttered an expeletive at him.
Quote from: jbell96 on September 27, 2009, 05:37:10 pm
Pujols made a bonehead play to cost the Cards. Down 4-3 in the 9th with one out & runners on the corners, Ludwick blooped one to shallow right. Barmes made an awesome diving catch & Pujols ended up being doubled off 1st to end the game. Worst thing that happens if Barmes doesn't catch it is a force out at 2nd with the game tied.
Pujols makes, what, 1 or 2 mental mistakes a year? Which is a lot fewer than most players. Why did one of those have to happen on a day where the Braves could have pulled to within 1.5 games of the WC, if the Cardinals had won the game?
Yankees clinched the AL East today.
We're 2 from clinching the Wild Card.
This is going to be the best post season in a long time.
I love the MLB playoffs. It's a crapshoot. Some teams are just built better for postseason success. Teams with the best records(which has been proven more and more true the last decade or so)aren't neccessarily the ones built for the most postseason success. When you take a 162 game season, and then shrink down to a 11-19 game postseason for the championship, you never know what's going to happen, and who's going to win.
(http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb3/asafa07/32820587.jpg)
It's now a two team race for the NL wildcard. Come on Atlanta.
When you look at the schedules, I could totally see Atlanta coming back and grabbing the WC.
Colorado - 3 vs Milwaukee, 3 @ LAD
Atlanta - 2 vs Florida, 4 vs Washington
The Braves could win every one of those games and I wouldn't be surprised.
Hush! ;)
I'm not trying a reverse jinx or anything like that. Just pointing out that the schedule favors the Braves pretty heavily.
shhhhhhhhhhh
(We know)
Heck, if we win out, we could catch the Phillies and win the East. The Phils have three more at home against the Astros and finish out with three games at home against the Marlins, so the odds of them only going 1-5 or 2-4 to finish and us going 6-0 are slim to none.
I'm beggin you. Please. Stop this foolishness.
Braves will make the playoffs.
Game 1 of the Tigers and Twins doubleheader has been fantastic. Just now in the top of the 9th Minnesota had a man on 3rd with 1 out and tried a squeeze, but Nick Punto popped it up and Alexi Casilla got doubled up on 3rd. Going to the bottom of the 9th now. Exciting game.
It's on MLB Network.
Looks like Pujols didn't make a bonehead play after all. I hope the Braves make it to the playoffs out of principle.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/About-that-Clint-Barmes-catch-on-Sunday-Was-?urn=mlb,192799
Twins take game 1 3-2. We could have a tie in the AL Central by the time the day is over.
Twins take Game 1 of the DH 3-2 in 10 innings.
For their sake they better be glad they won this one. Verlander is going tonight.
I wouldn't necessarily say that. Verlander is the ace and the stopper, but Minnesota is one of the two teams that have beaten Verlander multiple times this season. They'll be ready to go.
Quote from: jbell96 on September 29, 2009, 01:59:39 pm
Looks like Pujols didn't make a bonehead play after all. I hope the Braves make it to the playoffs out of principle.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/About-that-Clint-Barmes-catch-on-Sunday-Was-?urn=mlb,192799
my eyes do not deceive me often, that is either a baseball or someone's stupid photoshop joke.
It doesn't look good for the Twins in this game so far. We gave up a solo shot, and then 2 more runs in the 3rd inning. We are down 3-0 in the 4th inning. It isn't over, but I really wasn't expecting to win this. Hopefully if we don't come back, we can win the next two. We cannot afford to go into the last series of the season down 2 games.
It was good while it lasted.
Atlanta is currently down 4-1 in the 6th. Colorado has an early 1-0 lead in their game. Our chances of making the playoffs were slim to begin with. We would have needed to go at least 4-2 to close out and Colorado would have had to gone 1-5 or 2-4 to force a tie. I suppose there is still some hope if the Rockies lose tonight.
Marlins leading 5-4 headed to the 9th.
Rockies and Brewers tied 2-2 in the 6th.
Chris Iannetta walk off in the 11th! Rockies win!
I wasn't even aware the Rockies had gone into extras. Last I saw they were up 5-2 or something like that. I guess I could've looked at the score wrong. The fact that the best case scenario tonight after us losing, was them losing a well, didn't happen because they won in extras is just sickening.
Quote from: AB™ on September 29, 2009, 11:22:05 pm
I wasn't even aware the Rockies had gone into extras.
Jason Kendall hit a 3 run HR in the 9th off Huston Street to force extras.
Well it looks like the Braves are going to come up short.
I've had YES Network on in the background while surfing the net and obviously Mike Francessa's show has been on. They've had about 4 or 5 Mets callers on in a row and Francessa has been going OFF on them. It is absolutely hilarious. When I say going off, I mean screaming at the top of his lungs into the mic.
"WHO IS THE NAME OF THE METS TEAM DOCTOR?!?!?!?"
"MIKE! I DONT EVEN KNOW THE NAME OF MY OWN DOCTOR!!!!"
lololol
For dc24:
http://mynorthwest.com/?nid=374&sid=218287
That is so awesome.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on September 30, 2009, 06:00:52 pm
For dc24:
http://mynorthwest.com/?nid=374&sid=218287
That is so awesome.
Awesome it is. I love getting a chance to listen to those guys when I can on the free previews and such.
Another season, another playoff appearance with a shot at the World Series. It's good to be a Red Sox fan.
Dang you people. And I mean dang you! Bad enough last night to have both games go wrong, now tonight we have struck out 12 times in 15 AB's through 5 and trail 5-0.
As of this post, 9 Braves in a row have struck out.
Crap.
Tigers pounding the Twins right now, 7-2.
WOW
Ricky Nolasco with 16 Ks in 7 2/3! And did you say 9 straight QF? That has to be a record.
Quote from: RHS on September 30, 2009, 08:01:14 pm
Tigers pounding the Twins right now, 7-2.
Yessssss
Not that I have anything whatsoever against the Twins, but they are the most helpless team in MLB when it comes to facing the Yankees. The absolute last thing I want is a Yankees/Twins ALDS. The Tigers probably won't challenge them much either, but with Verlander being able to possibly pitch 2 games gives me the slightest of hope.
One short of the record of 10 by Tom Seaver. LaRoche doubled to break the streak.
Oh
My
God
I can't believe Diaz was picked off to end the game...
Did the Braves make a comeback?
With our loss and the Rockies win, the only hope we have is to win our last 4, and the Rockies to lose their last 4 games.
Yea bases were loaded score was 5-4 and Diaz was picked at 3rd.
Quote from: birdman16 on October 01, 2009, 12:09:48 am
Yea bases were loaded score was 5-4 and Diaz was picked at 3rd.
Wow. I didn't catch that. Talk about a horrible way to end it.
Saw the highlights of the Braves game late last night. Tough way to lose the game. There was a passed ball, Diaz started home, but changed his mind after he'd committed, and got nailed diving back into the base.
Hey Josh, who is playing worse right now, the Cardinals or Red Sox. I can figure it out.
CARP with a Grand Slam! Cards up 5-0 in the 2nd inning.
I really wish the Twins could stay healthy. We would be really good if that was the case. Mauer missed a month, Morneau missed this last month since he is out for the season. Crede has missed most of the 2nd half of the season. Neshek, Bonser, and Slowey have all been out. Slowey had the best record in the AL, and we were in first in the AL Central when he went out. He has been out most of the season with a 10-3 record. Our pitching rotation would be pretty solid with Baker, Blackburn, Slowey, and Neshek all available.
Quote from: jbell96 on October 01, 2009, 12:13:58 pm
CARP with a Grand Slam! Cards up 5-0 in the 2nd inning.
This could only happen if Kip Wells was pitching. Oh, wait.
How he keeps getting MLB jobs is beyond me. Jockety can almost single handly blame him for losing his job. Oh wait, he is in Cincinnati now. Some mistakes you just shouldn't make twice Walt.
Quote from: rsvl_hogfan4 on October 01, 2009, 01:40:04 pm
I really wish the Twins could stay healthy. We would be really good if that was the case. Mauer missed a month, Morneau missed this last month since he is out for the season. Crede has missed most of the 2nd half of the season. Neshek, Bonser, and Slowey have all been out. Slowey had the best record in the AL, and we were in first in the AL Central when he went out. He has been out most of the season with a 10-3 record. Our pitching rotation would be pretty solid with Baker, Blackburn, Slowey, and Neshek all available.
Um, I didn't even know the Twins had ever been in first place this year. Slowey made his last appearance on July 3rd and the Twins were in 3rd place and 4 games back of the Tigers at the time. I'm pretty sure they said on Baseball Tonight a couple of nights ago that the Tigers have been in first place in the Central since May 10th or something like that. Maybe the Twins were able to get into a first place tie with them since then?
Rockies clinch the NL Wild Card!
Quote from: jbell96 on October 01, 2009, 12:13:58 pm
CARP with a Grand Slam! Cards up 5-0 in the 2nd inning.
...along with the two run double. Before today, he had 6 total RBI's in his career. He just doubled that in two at bats.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on October 01, 2009, 02:23:42 pmThis could only happen if Kip Wells was pitching. Oh, wait.
When I heard Carpenter hit a GS I was like, "Wow, that's impressive". Then later on I found out it was Kip Wells who gave it up, lol. I will argue with anyone that Kip Wells is literally the worst pitcher in the major leagues. Bar none. I mean, how is he not rotting in AA somewhere?
Quote from: AB™ on October 01, 2009, 02:27:28 pm
Quote from: rsvl_hogfan4 on October 01, 2009, 01:40:04 pm
I really wish the Twins could stay healthy. We would be really good if that was the case. Mauer missed a month, Morneau missed this last month since he is out for the season. Crede has missed most of the 2nd half of the season. Neshek, Bonser, and Slowey have all been out. Slowey had the best record in the AL, and we were in first in the AL Central when he went out. He has been out most of the season with a 10-3 record. Our pitching rotation would be pretty solid with Baker, Blackburn, Slowey, and Neshek all available.
Um, I didn't even know the Twins had ever been in first place this year. Slowey made his last appearance on July 3rd and the Twins were in 3rd place and 4 games back of the Tigers at the time. I'm pretty sure they said on Baseball Tonight a couple of nights ago that the Tigers have been in first place in the Central since May 10th or something like that. Maybe the Twins were able to get into a first place tie with them since then?
The Twins and KC were back and forth in the first month or so. Then, the Twins were in first for a week or so. Yes, we did work our way into a tie with the Tigers. Then, as usual, we dropped down to like 10 games back. I believe 2 1/2 weeks ago we were 7 games back.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on October 01, 2009, 09:10:38 pm
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on October 01, 2009, 02:23:42 pmThis could only happen if Kip Wells was pitching. Oh, wait.
When I heard Carpenter hit a GS I was like, "Wow, that's impressive". Then later on I found out it was Kip Wells who gave it up, lol. I will argue with anyone that Kip Wells is literally the worst pitcher in the major leagues. Bar none. I mean, how is he not rotting in AA somewhere?
He must have some serious dirt on Walt Jockety.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on October 01, 2009, 11:02:26 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on October 01, 2009, 09:10:38 pm
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on October 01, 2009, 02:23:42 pmThis could only happen if Kip Wells was pitching. Oh, wait.
When I heard Carpenter hit a GS I was like, "Wow, that's impressive". Then later on I found out it was Kip Wells who gave it up, lol. I will argue with anyone that Kip Wells is literally the worst pitcher in the major leagues. Bar none. I mean, how is he not rotting in AA somewhere?
He must have some serious dirt on Walt Jockety.
That is the only logical explanation.
Quote from: rsvl_hogfan4 on October 01, 2009, 09:22:20 pm
Quote from: AB™ on October 01, 2009, 02:27:28 pm
Quote from: rsvl_hogfan4 on October 01, 2009, 01:40:04 pm
I really wish the Twins could stay healthy. We would be really good if that was the case. Mauer missed a month, Morneau missed this last month since he is out for the season. Crede has missed most of the 2nd half of the season. Neshek, Bonser, and Slowey have all been out. Slowey had the best record in the AL, and we were in first in the AL Central when he went out. He has been out most of the season with a 10-3 record. Our pitching rotation would be pretty solid with Baker, Blackburn, Slowey, and Neshek all available.
Um, I didn't even know the Twins had ever been in first place this year. Slowey made his last appearance on July 3rd and the Twins were in 3rd place and 4 games back of the Tigers at the time. I'm pretty sure they said on Baseball Tonight a couple of nights ago that the Tigers have been in first place in the Central since May 10th or something like that. Maybe the Twins were able to get into a first place tie with them since then?
The Twins and KC were back and forth in the first month or so. Then, the Twins were in first for a week or so. Yes, we did work our way into a tie with the Tigers. Then, as usual, we dropped down to like 10 games back. I believe 2 1/2 weeks ago we were 7 games back.
Well, you said they were in first when Slowey went out, and Slowey made his last start on July 3rd. At the time the Twins were in 3rd place and 4 games back. The closes the Twins have been since May 10th was on June 7th when they were 1.5 back. The White Sox did pull into a first place tie with the Tigers on July 23rd when the Twins were still 2.5 back.
The latest I could find that the Twins were in first place was April 11th when they were in a first place tie with the Tigers.
Quote from: AB™ on October 01, 2009, 11:25:11 pm
Quote from: rsvl_hogfan4 on October 01, 2009, 09:22:20 pm
Quote from: AB™ on October 01, 2009, 02:27:28 pm
Quote from: rsvl_hogfan4 on October 01, 2009, 01:40:04 pm
I really wish the Twins could stay healthy. We would be really good if that was the case. Mauer missed a month, Morneau missed this last month since he is out for the season. Crede has missed most of the 2nd half of the season. Neshek, Bonser, and Slowey have all been out. Slowey had the best record in the AL, and we were in first in the AL Central when he went out. He has been out most of the season with a 10-3 record. Our pitching rotation would be pretty solid with Baker, Blackburn, Slowey, and Neshek all available.
Um, I didn't even know the Twins had ever been in first place this year. Slowey made his last appearance on July 3rd and the Twins were in 3rd place and 4 games back of the Tigers at the time. I'm pretty sure they said on Baseball Tonight a couple of nights ago that the Tigers have been in first place in the Central since May 10th or something like that. Maybe the Twins were able to get into a first place tie with them since then?
The Twins and KC were back and forth in the first month or so. Then, the Twins were in first for a week or so. Yes, we did work our way into a tie with the Tigers. Then, as usual, we dropped down to like 10 games back. I believe 2 1/2 weeks ago we were 7 games back.
Well, you said they were in first when Slowey went out, and Slowey made his last start on July 3rd. At the time the Twins were in 3rd place and 4 games back. The closes the Twins have been since May 10th was on June 7th when they were 1.5 back. The White Sox did pull into a first place tie with the Tigers on July 23rd when the Twins were still 2.5 back.
The latest I could find that the Twins were in first place was April 11th when they were in a first place tie with the Tigers.
I do find it rather flattering that you somehow want to turn this into an argument and try and prove me wrong so much that you took the time to research all of these stats on my baseball team.
I thought we were in first, but we were actually 2.5 games back when Slowey was suppose to pitch again. My entire point of my post was saying how frustrated I am with all the injuries we have had because we would be a playoff team, and a pretty solid one at that, if we could stay healthy. Leave it to you to try and argue something so small when it really is irrelevant to the big picture.
But once again, I will give you your satisfaction, and admit I am wrong. Me being wrong must not happen often considering your constant dedication to try and prove me wrong.
No, it's your arrogance and stubborness and unwillingness to continually drag on arguments, even when someone has proven you wrong. I didn't have to do a ton of research. It took me googling and skimming through two articles and going back and look at the standings on on that day and for a week or two after to see if the Twins got any closer. It took maybe 10 minutes.
Besides, winning the AL Central means you're maybe the 10th best team in baseball. ;)
Maybe the Tigers will prove me wrong.
Quote from: AB™ on October 01, 2009, 11:55:53 pm
No, it's your arrogance and stubborness and unwillingness to continually drag on arguments, even when someone has proven you wrong. I didn't have to do a ton of research. It took me googling and skimming through two articles and going back and look at the standings on on that day and for a week or two after to see if the Twins got any closer. It took maybe 10 minutes.
Besides, winning the AL Central means you're maybe the 10th best team in baseball. ;)
Maybe the Tigers will prove me wrong.
Because I could care less....
It is funny how you, SMC, and a few others talk to me like I care what you guys think on here. If you notice, I post on here for a few weeks, then don't post for a few weeks. I have gone months without posting. That is because I really don't care about FF. I really could care less what people on here think. I post on here mostly to argue and make people mad. It is entertaining when I have nothing to do. Everyone has caught on but you and a few others. You are the type of person that would be upset if you got banned and message every mod until you got back. I on the other hand would laugh and say it was about time.
I would definitely put a healthy Twins team up against a healthy Braves team any time.
You two are like an old married couple. You just argue for the heck of it lol.
Lol, I love reading this thread.
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Quote from: AB™ on October 01, 2009, 11:55:53 pm
No, it's your arrogance and stubborness and unwillingness to continually drag on arguments, even when someone has proven you wrong. I didn't have to do a ton of research. It took me googling and skimming through two articles and going back and look at the standings on on that day and for a week or two after to see if the Twins got any closer. It took maybe 10 minutes.
Besides, winning the AL Central means you're maybe the 10th best team in baseball. ;)
Maybe the Tigers will prove me wrong.
Because I could care less....
It is funny how you, SMC, and a few others talk to me like I care what you guys think on here. If you notice, I post on here for a few weeks, then don't post for a few weeks. I have gone months without posting. That is because I really don't care about FF. I really could care less what people on here think. I post on here mostly to argue and make people mad. It is entertaining when I have nothing to do. Everyone has caught on but you and a few others. You are the type of person that would be upset if you got banned and message every mod until you got back. I on the other hand would laugh and say it was about time.
I would definitely put a healthy Twins team up against a healthy Braves team any time.
The main reason I called you out over something so meaningless is because you are usually so careful when you post to make sure you don't have any holes in what you post, so no one has a justifiable reason for saying you're wrong.
The fact that you think my life revolves around this message board and that my world would end if I got banned shows just how little you really know about me. I couldn't care any less if I got banned from here. I wouldn't be sending messages to every mod demanding to know why and asking them to bring me back. I'd carry on with my life and not lose sleep over it. I go through portions of the year where I don't post, mainly in the summer. Due to the summer job I've had the last three summers my computer access is pretty limited during the summer and it's not like I sit up all night, after going two weeks without posting, with the shakes because I'm losing my mind because I can't post on a message board. I find it funny that you're saying I would obsess over a ban and act like a baby, even though you've got more posts than me, and are averaging more posts than I do per day. Because what it seems like you are implying is that I spend all of my free time on here and I have no life, yet, again, you've got more posts than me. Again, my life does not revolve around this message board, and my world would not come tumbling down if I got banned.
Do you really think I care about what you think? Again, not true. I actually care very little about what you have to say about most things. You are pretty informed and know your stuff, but I don't care about what you think.
As for the Braves against a healthy Twins team, how is that supposed to offend me? I've said all year long that the Braves have a very good pitching staff and a bad lineup. I don't even think we are a top 10 team and I don't think the Twins are a top 10 team in baseball. I'll just go ahead and say it, though; I think a healthy Atlanta team is better than a healthy Minnesota team. It doesn't matter what either one of us think about the subject though, because they aren't going to be playing each other this year.
Twins up 10-2 in the 6th, and Detroit lost 8-0.
1 game back with 2 games left. We still have to face Greinke, and Detroit has Verlander. If CWS can hang around with Verlander late in the game, CWS will have a chance. Verlander always struggles around the 6th or 7th inning.
Should be an exciting week of baseball.
Nevermind...Detroit, as of right now, aren't going to pitch Verlander.
If we can beat Greinke tomorrow it will be pretty interesting to see what they do.
Detroit may be forced to pitch Verlander in their final game if they don't win tomorrow, and the Twins win. Minnesota obviously has a tall task ahead since they have to beat Greinke, but I'm praying they win tomorrow and the Tigers lose, so we can have some excitement going into the final day of the regular season. Detroit having to pitch Verlander one more time would really hurt their chances in the playoffs(if they make it)since they probably wouldn't be able to pitch him twice against the Yankees.
I am definitely rooting for whatever scenario brings about a one-game playoff.
I'm rooting for whichever scenario brings about the best chance of the Yankees getting beat.
I'm rooting for whatever scenario keeps the Cardinal bullpen from turning a 6-1 lead in the 7th into an 11-6 deficit an inning later.
Quote from: MikeDiesel™ on October 02, 2009, 09:50:09 pm
I'm rooting for whichever scenario brings about the best chance of the Yankees getting beat.
Then you probably don't want to root for the Twins. We are awful against the Yankees.
Quote from: MikeDiesel™ on October 02, 2009, 09:50:09 pm
I'm rooting for whichever scenario brings about the best chance of the Yankees getting beat.
Then join me in rooting on the Tigers. I am going to be furious if the Twins get in because they sit back and take it from the Yankees like no other team in baseball.
Screw excitement in the final weekend. I want Detroit in the playoffs.
Can't believe they aren't showing this on ESPN or somewhere, but the Rockies are leading the Dodgers 2-1 in the top of the 7th. If Colorado sweeps this series they win the division. I'm watching on FSN Colorado. Exciting game. Ubaldo has been mowing LA down.
TULO!! He just SMASHED one out for a 2 run HR.
4-1 Rockies :D
Good to see Tulo is back on the juice. Of course the "in between" year where he only hit like 8 HR is the year I had him in fantasy.
Was that the year that we saw him rehab in LR?
If the Twins make the playoffs, Mauer should be a lock for the AL MVP. Even if we don't make it he still has a legit case.
With Punto on 3rd in the bottom of the 6th Mauer hits a 2 strike pitch to right field against Greinke to give the Twins a 1-0 lead. Mauer is about to win his 3rd batting title in 4 years. ESPN said only 1 other player has done that.
I think Mauer deserves it even if the Twins don't make the playoffs. He's probably the second best player in baseball right now behind Pujols.
Delmon Young is having a heck of a week. He hit his first career grand slam last night, and got a few other RBI. Just now, with the bases loaded, he hit one off the wall to clear the bases.
Twins are up 4-0 going into the 7th. If we hold on, tomorrow is going to be a crazy day in the Metrodome. It will be the last regular season game ever in the Metrodome. On top of that, we will have a chance to tie or win the AL Central. Things should be interesting.
I cannot wait for that Detroit game tonight, now.
Quote from: rsvl_hogfan4 on October 03, 2009, 04:47:00 pm
If the Twins make the playoffs, Mauer should be a lock for the AL MVP.
He should be a lock either way.
Do you think your boys will re-sign him?
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Quote from: rsvl_hogfan4 on October 03, 2009, 04:47:00 pm
If the Twins make the playoffs, Mauer should be a lock for the AL MVP.
He should be a lock either way.
Do you think your boys will re-sign him?
Yeah, he wants to be here, and is too good to let go. I feel pretty confident he will be a Twin for a long time.
KC has 3 runs now. A ground rule double and a HR have made the score 4-3 with a runner on first and no outs in the 8th. Twins just need to get out of this inning and Nathan will do the rest.
The Royals tie the game at 4 going into the bottom of the 8th. Punto just made an amazing play to turn a double play, though.
Wow, great play by Punto to turn 2. The runner on third still scored to tie it up.
Cuddyer hits his 31st HR to give us a 5-4 lead.
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Quote from: rsvl_hogfan4 on October 03, 2009, 04:47:00 pm
If the Twins make the playoffs, Mauer should be a lock for the AL MVP.
He should be a lock either way.
Do you think your boys will re-sign him?
Yeah, he wants to be here, and is too good to let go. I feel pretty confident he will be a Twin for a long time.
If the Twins don't pony up and keep Mauer they need to be contracted.
Chicago takes a 1-0 lead in the 2nd. Yesssss.
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Quote from: rsvl_hogfan4 on October 03, 2009, 04:47:00 pm
If the Twins make the playoffs, Mauer should be a lock for the AL MVP.
He should be a lock either way.
Do you think your boys will re-sign him?
Yeah, he wants to be here, and is too good to let go. I feel pretty confident he will be a Twin for a long time.
If the Twins don't pony up and keep Mauer they need to be contracted.
I agree completely. Too good of a player to go with what seems to be a great all-around person to let go, especially since he wants to be there.
Anyone else watching the Rockies and Dodgers? Scoreless in the 5th.
Cardinal fans have to be praying they get LA in the 1st round. You know they don't want Colorado.
The way we are playing it wont matter.
The way we are playing it wont matter.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on October 03, 2009, 11:39:03 pm
The way we are playing it wont matter.
Please. Yall are going to steamroll LA and you know it.
Dodgers have broken it open now. 3-0 in the 7th and bases loaded with 1 out.
We're looking at at least one, maybe 2 terrible first round series in the playoffs. Cardinals/Dodgers is going to suck competitive wise, and the Yankees/Twins is going to be even worse than that if Minnesota gets in.
Our bats need to wake back up and out pen needs to stop giving up 3 runs per inning.
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Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on October 03, 2009, 11:39:03 pm
The way we are playing it wont matter.
Please. Yall are going to steamroll LA and you know it.
Dodgers have broken it open now. 3-0 in the 7th and bases loaded with 1 out.
We're looking at at least one, maybe 2 terrible first round series in the playoffs. Cardinals/Dodgers is going to suck competitive wise, and the Yankees/Twins is going to be even worse than that if Minnesota gets in.
(knock on wood)
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on October 03, 2009, 11:44:49 pm
Our bats need to wake back up and out pen needs to stop giving up 3 runs per inning.
A friggin men. I don't know why Tony didn't rest some of the regulars down the stretch to have them fresh for the playoffs.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on October 03, 2009, 11:44:49 pm
Our bats need to wake back up and out pen needs to stop giving up 3 runs per inning.
LA has been even worse than St. Louis as of late. They struggled at Pittsburg and haven't scored much at all the last week. Plus, the Cardinals owned them this season anyway. LA
might steal one, but I would be shocked if the series went more than 4.
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Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on October 03, 2009, 11:39:03 pm
The way we are playing it wont matter.
Please. Yall are going to steamroll LA and you know it.
Dodgers have broken it open now. 3-0 in the 7th and bases loaded with 1 out.
We're looking at at least one, maybe 2 terrible first round series in the playoffs. Cardinals/Dodgers is going to suck competitive wise, and the Yankees/Twins is going to be even worse than that if Minnesota gets in.
You are right the Yankees will advance. However, most of our games with them are pretty entertaining. We may lose every game, but Detroit doesn't really have a chance either. We have had some close, controversial games this year. The playoffs won't be any different if we make it. I just wish I had confidence in us actually being able to pull off an upset.
Quote from: rsvl_hogfan4 on October 03, 2009, 11:50:09 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on October 03, 2009, 11:41:00 pmWe're looking at at least one, maybe 2 terrible first round series in the playoffs. Cardinals/Dodgers is going to suck competitive wise, and the Yankees/Twins is going to be even worse than that if Minnesota gets in.
While you are right the Yankees will advance. However, most of our games with them are pretty entertaining. We may lose 4-0, but Detroit doesn't really have a chance either. We have had some close, controversial games this year. The playoffs won't be any different if we make it. I just wish I had confidence in us actually being able to pull off an upset.
Yeah, I can't wait to see the Twins invent new ways to lose this time around. That's not what I call entertaining, more like just stringing me along and ultimately pis
sing me off. Never fails.
Detroit doesn't have a great chance with New York either, but at least they have somewhat of a shot. Verlander dominated the Yankees both times he faced them this year and could put the team on his back and win a game, maybe two. I'm not counting on that, but it's definitely a possibility. Minnesota on the other hand, they have zero chance.
Josh, I am I just can't see how you're so confident in the fact that the Cardinals will make quick, easy work of the Dodgers in the first round. It may very well happen, but neither team has been playing well as of late. We all know how important a solid bullpen is in the playoffs and the Cardinals bullpen has been pretty bad lately. Both the Dodgers and Cardinals are having problems scoring runs right now
The Dodgers have not only been the hottest team in baseball the last month or so, they were 10 games below .500 when Hurdle took over, and now they are going to finish 20+ games over .500. No one wants to play them right now. I don't have much confidence in the Phillies either unless Madson shows me early on that he can be a lock down closer in a playoff atmosphere.
Quote from: AB™ on October 04, 2009, 12:17:53 am
Josh, I am I just can't see how you're so confident in the fact that the Cardinals will make quick, easy work of the Dodgers in the first round. It may very well happen, but neither team has been playing well as of late. We all know how important a solid bullpen is in the playoffs and the Cardinals bullpen has been pretty bad lately. Both the Dodgers and Cardinals are having problems scoring runs right now.
I don't think LA can handle Carpenter/Wainwright. They haven't exactly been scoring a bunch of runs recently and Manny isn't in the zone like he was last post-season. I hope they can regain their form and put out St. Louis, I just don't see it happening.
Quote from: AB™ on October 04, 2009, 12:17:53 amI don't have much confidence in the Phillies either unless Madson shows me early on that he can be a lock down closer in a playoff atmosphere.
Lidge is going to close in the playoffs. I don't think any Phillies fans have much confidence in him, but that appears to be the direction they're going to take.
I'd be scared out of my mind if I was a Phillies fan and Lidge closes in the playoffs.
And we've seen all year that the Cardinals aren't guaranteed to win games in which Carpenter and Wainwright starts. Both have been given very poor run support down the stretch. The St. Louis bullpen blew a 6-1 lead for Wainwright when he left the game. The Cardinals bullpen has been scary bad lately.
Why are the Twins pitching Pavano tomorrow on three days rest? He got rocked his last start.
The Tigers are having to do what they didn't want to do and pitch Verlander one more time in the regular season.
Well all playoff matchups in the NL are set.
Cards/Dodgers
Phillies/Rockies
I think Ron just wants to get 3 or 4 good innings out of him. KC obviously has very little run support, so even a sorry pitcher can look good. It could play out good if we win having Pavano pitch instead of someone else.
He's going against Hochevar as well who is 0-2 with a 11.45 ERA in his last two starts.
This is going to be fun. Can we have a 1 game playoff for the 3rd straight year?
Quote from: AB™ on October 04, 2009, 12:46:14 am
He's going against Hochevar as well who is 0-2 with a 11.45 ERA in his last two starts.
He also has the ability to have Cy Young worth stuff from time to time.
Tigers up 3-0 bottom 4.
Twins and Royals about to get underway.
Twins are up 4-0 in the 2nd inning. Pavano just got out of a jam.
Tigers are up 5-0 going into the 7th. This is where they can get to Verlander if they are going to.
I am pretty mad we don't have the Twins game. WGN has the Detroit game, and the MLB network has the Detroit game.
If both teams hold on, the one game playoff will be Tuesday at 4 in Minnesota.
Verlander just got taken out of the game with a 5-3 lead in the top of the 8th. The Tigers have two outs, but the White Sox have runners on 1st and 2nd and Carlos Quentin coming up to bat.
And as usual, Verlander folds late in the game. CWS have scored 3 runs in the 8th inning. They have runners on 1st and 2nd with one out.
However, it may be too little, too late. Hopefully they can get a good hit here and tie the game up, though.
Granderson with diving catch to save a run.
He may have saved two runs because if he dosn't make that catch there's not telling how far the ball rolls. Both runners on base probably would have scored.
See you Tuesday Detroit.
I like our chances considering it is in Minnesota, we have beat them like 5 or 6 more times this year than they have beat us, and we can pitch Baker.
Wonder who Detroit throws on Tuesday.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on October 04, 2009, 02:47:30 pm
Wonder who Detroit throws on Tuesday.
That is what I am wondering. Maybe Porcello? He hasn't pitched since the 29th. He held us to only 1 run through 6, but we ended up pulling out the win in 10 innings 3-2. That would be who I pitch if I was Leyland.
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Quote from: msubulldogs21 on October 04, 2009, 02:47:30 pm
Wonder who Detroit throws on Tuesday.
That is what I am wondering. Maybe Porcello? He hasn't pitched since the 29th. He held us to only 1 run through 6, but we ended up pulling out the win in 10 innings 3-2. That would be who I pitch if I was Leyland.
Yeah, probably Porcello. Detroit can't feel comfortable having their season hinge on how a 21 year old pitches in a hostile road environment in a playoff game though.
Dear TLR,
If Wellemeyer makes the postseason roster & it ends up costing us in the playoffs you will be shunned worse than when you left Mike Matthews in too long & he gave up a 3 run homer to Craig Counsell to cost us game 3 of the 2001 NLDS.
Signed
Concerned Cardinal Fan
Today may have marked the end of the career of one of the greatest players of all time. Ken Griffey Jr. ended finished his 1 year contract with the Mariners today, going 1-4 with a single in his final at bat of the season. He said that he would be interested in playing again next year if the Mariners want him back. Hopefully he can play one more year, if not, congratulations on being one of the best to ever play the game. I'm going to miss that swing.
Quote from: jbell96 on October 04, 2009, 09:36:28 pm
Dear TLR,
If Wellemeyer makes the postseason roster & it ends up costing us in the playoffs you will be shunned worse than when you left Mike Matthews in too long & he gave up a 3 run homer to Craig Counsell to cost us game 3 of the 2001 NLDS.
Signed
Concerned Cardinal Fan
I don't know what's more amazing. The fact Wellemeyer has been able to stick in the bigs since 2001, or that he gave up a clutch playoff homer to Craig Counsell.
Did you read my post? I was referring to TLR being a stubborn bonehead. Mike Matthews gave up the homer to Counsell 8 years ago.
Quote from: jbell96 on October 04, 2009, 10:54:57 pm
Did you read my post? I was referring to TLR being a stubborn bonehead. Mike Matthews gave up the homer to Counsell 8 years ago.
Apparently I didn't. My bad.
I knew something didn't sound right about Wellemeyer and being in the majors since 2001. I skipped right over the Mike Matthews part.
Quote from: Ken Griffey Jr. on October 04, 2009, 09:44:06 pm
Today may have marked the end of the career of one of the greatest players of all time. Ken Griffey Jr. ended finished his 1 year contract with the Mariners today, going 1-4 with a single in his final at bat of the season. He said that he would be interested in playing again next year if the Mariners want him back. Hopefully he can play one more year, if not, congratulations on being one of the best to ever play the game. I'm going to miss that swing.
Co-sign. He's the reason I learned to bat left handed.
Is there any particular reason why they're playing the 1 game playoff at 4:00? That struck me as kind of odd considering I would think for TV purposes it would be about 7:00.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on October 05, 2009, 01:11:34 am
Is there any particular reason why they're playing the 1 game playoff at 4:00? That struck me as kind of odd considering I would think for TV purposes it would be about 7:00.
Wasn't the one game playoff early last year as well?
I remember the Rockies/Padres one game playoff was a night game a couple of years ago, but it does seem like the White Sox/Twins game last year started at either 4 or 5 o'clock.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on October 05, 2009, 02:39:48 am
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on October 05, 2009, 01:11:34 am
Is there any particular reason why they're playing the 1 game playoff at 4:00? That struck me as kind of odd considering I would think for TV purposes it would be about 7:00.
Wasn't the one game playoff early last year as well?
Yeah, I remember the Twins & White Sox playing in the afternoon last year.
Quote from: jbell96 on October 05, 2009, 10:06:19 am
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on October 05, 2009, 02:39:48 am
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on October 05, 2009, 01:11:34 am
Is there any particular reason why they're playing the 1 game playoff at 4:00? That struck me as kind of odd considering I would think for TV purposes it would be about 7:00.
Wasn't the one game playoff early last year as well?
Yeah, I remember the Twins & White Sox playing in the afternoon last year.
It was a night game last year. I remember this because on the highlights it's pitch black dark.
It's afternoon because it seems that depending on the winner they might have a quick turn around day game at New York on Wednesday.
I heard something today that one team wins means day game and if it's the other it's a night game.
Since they were not able to play on Monday night, it's a day game Tuesday to max out the potential rest time from the Tuesday to the Wednesday game.
I do have a comment that might not go over well. That being whoever wins the toss(as the Twins did) have the responsibility of being able to host on that Monday. If they can't, they should lose that right to the Tigers.
There should be a day in between and that's why they wait until Wed to start the games in case of that Monday tie. I know the Twins wanted to play Monday and they couldn't pull it off. But that's on them. As it stands, they keep things in limbo an extra day cause they can't secure their home field. Heck, let them play in Detroit and they can be the home team on the scoreboard.
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Quote from: msubulldogs21 on October 05, 2009, 01:11:34 am
Is there any particular reason why they're playing the 1 game playoff at 4:00? That struck me as kind of odd considering I would think for TV purposes it would be about 7:00.
Wasn't the one game playoff early last year as well?
Yeah, I remember the Twins & White Sox playing in the afternoon last year.
It was a night game last year. I remember this because on the highlights it's pitch black dark.
Same here, but it might have been like a 5 or 6 o'clock start time, and so it would've been dark probably by the 4th or 5th inning. But even during this time of the year it doesn't get dark until 7ish, and since it was in Chicago, it was in the same time zone as we are here, so the earliest it probably started was at 6.
Quote from: QF© on October 05, 2009, 05:58:26 pm
It's afternoon because it seems that depending on the winner they might have a quick turn around day game at New York on Wednesday.
They will still in all likelihood be playing on Wednesday. It's almost a given that the Yankees are going to pick the Wednesday series rather the Thursday one. I haven't heard them officially say it yet, but that's the consensus.
Quote from: QF© on October 05, 2009, 05:58:26 pmI heard something today that one team wins means day game and if it's the other it's a night game.
That shouldn't matter. NYY are going to pick the Wednesday series and as we all know, there is no such thing as a day game playoff game in Yankee Stadium.
I just don't see why they don't say it's Thursday if it's a given. No reason not too even if they are not setting the time just yet. I essentially agree with you.
National League team of the decade? I would say so.
http://stlouis.cardinals.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20091005&content_id=7339018&vkey=news_stl&fext=.jsp&c_id=stl
Here we go. Twins and Tigers.
I'm going to say Twins 5, Tigers 3.
What channel is the game on? ESPN or TBS?
If you haven't found it yet, TBS. It took me a little bit to find it.
Quote from: AB™ on October 06, 2009, 04:20:17 pm
If you haven't found it yet, TBS. It took me a little bit to find it.
I don't think they had the game on for the start of it cause I couldn't find it either.
Excluding Jeff, who are yall rooting for?
Obviously I'm pulling for the Tigers.
RBI single
1-0 Tigers
MIGUEL CABRERA
Shaking off the hangover! Yes!
Well great...
We dominate the AL Central teams all year, and then this happens in the final game. I am about to have to go to a class. Looks like I won't be missing much, though. I know it is early, but I don't have a good feeling.
Quote from: rsvl_hogfan4 on October 06, 2009, 04:52:30 pm
I am about to have to go to a class.
Oh dude. You have got to skip it. It's a 1 game playoff!
They just said the Tigers weren't that impressed by the fact that the Twins finished 16-4 down the stretch since 3 of those 4 losses for the Twins came at the hands of the Tigers. It's obviously important that the Tigers get Porcello an early lead being a young pitcher, pitching on the road, in a pressure filled atmosphere. Well, Porcello has been given a 3-0 lead, and he's pitched pretty well in the first two innings.
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I am about to have to go to a class.
Oh dude. You have got to skip it. It's a 1 game playoff!
Unless I had a test or something important to turn it, I'd skip it. This one is far from over. It's early, Porcello is a young pitcher that's never pitched in a game this meaningful. I'd be fvery surprised if the Twins don't get some runs off of Porcello.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on October 06, 2009, 04:54:59 pm
Quote from: rsvl_hogfan4 on October 06, 2009, 04:52:30 pm
I am about to have to go to a class.
Oh dude. You have got to skip it. It's a 1 game playoff!
Any other time I would, but we have a quiz and I have already skipped 3.
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Quote from: rsvl_hogfan4 on October 06, 2009, 04:52:30 pm
I am about to have to go to a class.
Oh dude. You have got to skip it. It's a 1 game playoff!
Any other time I would, but we have a quiz and I have already skipped 3.
The Twins are getting quite familiar with the 1 game playoff. You should plan ahead next year.
No real surprise here:
http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2009/10/yankees_chose_l.html
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on October 06, 2009, 05:02:33 pm
Quote from: rsvl_hogfan4 on October 06, 2009, 04:58:23 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on October 06, 2009, 04:54:59 pm
Quote from: rsvl_hogfan4 on October 06, 2009, 04:52:30 pm
I am about to have to go to a class.
Oh dude. You have got to skip it. It's a 1 game playoff!
Any other time I would, but we have a quiz and I have already skipped 3.
The Twins are getting quite familiar with the 1 game playoff. You should plan ahead next year.
Well, considering it was originally going to be on Monday, I had no idea. Plus I thought it was going to be a night game like last year.
I'm still a little confused by the 4 o'clock start time.
Porcello was so close to being a pitcher at UNC right now. He is awesome for just a 20 year old.
It would've been nice to have Porcello in this year's CWS.
I will be looking at Porcello in fantasy next year. He's really started coming on strong at the end of the season.
Am I the only one sick and tired of hearing how big of "lift" it would be for the city of Detroit if one of their sports teams is successful? They played that card for most of the NCAAT and now they are playing in regards to the Tigers and making the playoffs.
Tiger bullpen is pouring gas around the infield...
I'm glad we're not having those Dane Cook "This is your October" commercials shoved down our throats this year. That guy is a hick.
F you Zach Miner you POS
What a game! Orlando Cabrera with the go ahead 2 run homer in the bottom of the 7th.
Wow what a huge HR.
Who else is excited for the Yankees to sweep and win all games by 10+ now?
WOOHOO! >:( >:( >:(
The Tigers bullpen has sucked royally in this game.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on October 06, 2009, 06:32:42 pm
Who else is excited for the Yankees to sweep and win all games by 10+ now?
WOOHOO! >:( >:( >:(
It's going to be ok Josh. Haven't the Yankees done pretty well against the Twins this year? I figure they are going to make quick work of whoever wins this game.
And I hear that teams sweep playoff series all the time by 10+ runs. ;)
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on October 06, 2009, 06:32:42 pm
Who else is excited for the Yankees to sweep and win all games by 10+ now?
WOOHOO! >:( >:( >:(
Lol...yeah right.
We likely won't beat the Yankees in the series, but as I have said multiple times, every game we have had with the Yankees except for one this year has been close. We played them close last year, too. We just always find ways to blow it against them. We will give them a fight, just won't win the series more than likely.
We are the best team in the AL Central win or lose this game. At least head to head. You are right, though. Detroit would definitely give the Yankees a better game based on our past record against them. Who knows, though? Maybe this will be the year we get past them if we hold on in this game.
Quote from: AB™ on October 06, 2009, 06:34:15 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on October 06, 2009, 06:32:42 pm
Who else is excited for the Yankees to sweep and win all games by 10+ now?
WOOHOO! >:( >:( >:(
It's going to be ok Josh. Haven't the Yankees done pretty well against the Twins this year? And I hear that teams sweep playoff series all the time by 10+ runs. ;)
Detroit's chance against the Yankees > Minnesota's chance against the Yankees
For that matter, Pittsburg's chance against the Yankees > Minnesota's chance against the Yankees
You don't think the Yankees and Cardinals series are going to F'ing suck?
Tigers must score in the 8th, cause they won't score off Nathan in the 9th.
Quote from: rsvl_hogfan4 on October 06, 2009, 06:38:17 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on October 06, 2009, 06:32:42 pm
Who else is excited for the Yankees to sweep and win all games by 10+ now?
WOOHOO! >:( >:( >:(
Lol...yeah right.
We likely won't beat the Yankees in the series, but as I have said multiple times, every game we have had with the Yankees except for one this year has been close. We played them close last year, too. We just always find ways to blow it against them. We will give them a fight, just won't win the series more than likely.
We are the best team in the AL Central win or lose this game. At least head to head. You are right, though. Detroit would definitely give the Yankees a better game based on our past record against them. Who knows, though? Maybe this will be the year we get past them if we hold on in this game.
I understand they probably won't win every game by 10+. Mainly I'm just pis
sed, that's all.
I have 0% confidence in the Twins against the Yankees, and for good reason. They have something like a .200 winning % vs them this decade, including the playoffs.
MAGS!!!!
:D
Quote from: SMC on October 06, 2009, 06:40:58 pm
Tigers must score in the 8th, cause they won't score off Nathan in the 9th.
Well there you go.
We better not choke.
Wow that was quick. And the Twins have not won in new York in like two years I think.
"Like the great city of Detroit, don't count out these Tigers."
What does that even mean?
http://www.mlb.com/mlb/fantasy/bracket_challenge/index.jsp?tcid=fb-ps-chllge
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on October 06, 2009, 06:46:36 pm
Wow that was quick. And the Twins have not won in new York in like two years I think.
Yeah, they said July of 07.
Quote from: AB™ on October 06, 2009, 06:47:29 pm
"Like the great city of Detroit, don't count out these Tigers."
What does that even mean?
Hahahahahaha
The Motor City will rise again?
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on October 06, 2009, 06:46:36 pm
And the Twins have not won in new York in like two years I think.
I think yall are beginning to see my point...
If the city of Detroit is in such bad shape shouldn't they not want the MLB playoffs? I mean if people don't have much money wanting them to spend it on playoff tickets seems rather silly.
And today's Chevy Silverado player of the Game...
3B Coach Gene LaMont for that brilliant piece of coaching by running out on the field between third and second and telling Rayburn to stay put at 2nd.
I don't know if yall know this, but Brandon Inge personifies the city of Detroit with his will and heart.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on October 06, 2009, 06:53:43 pm
If the city of Detroit is in such bad shape shouldn't they not want the MLB playoffs? I mean if people don't have much money wanting them to spend it on playoff tickets seems rather silly.
It would be the second feel good story of the year for Detroit, though, since Michigan State made it to the Final Four. The entire city would rally around the Tigers and will them to a playoff win or two.
I hate it when announcers try to tell you how dramatic a game is. I'm not an idiot I know when a game is dramatic, you don't have to say it over and over again and add your little sayings about how big it is. And for the love of God stop talking about the city of Detroit, their poor..... we get it.
Quote from: AB™ on October 06, 2009, 07:01:36 pm
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on October 06, 2009, 06:53:43 pm
If the city of Detroit is in such bad shape shouldn't they not want the MLB playoffs? I mean if people don't have much money wanting them to spend it on playoff tickets seems rather silly.
It would be the second feel good story of the year for Detroit, though, since Michigan State made it to the Final Four. The entire city would rally around the Tigers and will them to a playoff win or two.
I personally like the story of the Twins being 7 games back with 2 weeks to play, and 2 games back with 3 to play. Only 1 other team has came back from this deficit in such a small amount of time in history. That was Philly over the Mets in 2007.
All while doing it with 3 pitchers on the DL, without their All-Star 1st baseman, and without their veteran 3B Crede.
If announcers and the media keep cramming the whole "the city of Detroit needs this" angle when one of their sports teams shows signs of success, it's going to drive more and more people to root against them.
Quote from: rsvl_hogfan4 on October 06, 2009, 07:03:38 pmI personally like the story of the Twins being 7 games back with 2 weeks to play, and 2 games back with 3 to play. Only 1 other team has came back from this deficit in such a small amount of time in history. That was Philly over the Mets in 2007.
All while doing it with 3 pitchers on the DL, without their All-Star 1st baseman, and without their veteran 3B Crede.
Seriously.
I'm not pulling for the Twins, but what they've done (especially without Morneau) is incredible.
Wow. Maybe I should go back to not watching.
1st/3rd no out.
Lets gooooo.
Over under on car fires+ deaths + arrests if Detroit wins?
Errrrr that was way inside
lol
Detroit deserves to lose. (That call on Polanco was a freaking joke though)
"You can't wipe that grin away from Joe Nathan's face, just like a Cheshire cat."
Wow. Just wow.
Quote from: AB™ on October 06, 2009, 07:25:48 pm
"You can't wipe that grin away from Joe Nathan's face, just like a Cheshire cat."
Wow. Just wow.
Does Chip Caray still do Braves games?
I totally disagree with the bunt there. If they get Cabrera out, they're taking the bat out of Mauer's hands.
Brandon Inge! What a Web Gem machine! My Dad bowled with him at Vance Wilson's charity event and said he is one of the coolest guys you will ever meet.
So by bunting there, Gardenhire takes the bat out of the hands of Span and Mauer, the top two OBP guys on the team. Good call. The fact that Gomez is in there for Kubel makes the bunting decision even worse.
SAAAAAAAAAAFFFFFFFFEEEEE
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on October 06, 2009, 07:26:51 pm
Quote from: AB™ on October 06, 2009, 07:25:48 pm
"You can't wipe that grin away from Joe Nathan's face, just like a Cheshire cat."
Wow. Just wow.
Does Chip Caray still do Braves games?
Chip Caray didn't say that gem of a line.
As for your question, John Sciambi and Joe Simpson did Braves games on TV. Caray primarily does TBS games.
Brandon Inge is so clutch.
What an amazingly horrible play in left.
(http://www.linorulli.com/LinoBoerGoatProfile1.jpg)
If DET loses, that left fielder will sleep little.
Does anybody want to win this game?
I've not followed competely all the discussion about these announcers. But the color guy does Mets games and every dang time I got the Mets feeds instead of the Braves feed on my MLB ticket I cussed Cox Cable a blue streak.
He's awful even with his own team.
Detroit's defense this inning = teh suck
EDIT: Until that double play.
Wow!
This is an incredible game. I didn't think I'd see another one game playoff as dramatic as the Rockies/Padres game from two years ago but this one tops it.
If you look at that last play at the plate in slow motion, it is about as close as you can get.
That dive in left field was horrible, but Granderson was just as at fault on the play. If Granderson is backing up Raburn like he is suppose to, that is a double at worse. Instead he missed the ball and had to chase it to the fence.
Quote from: AB™ on October 06, 2009, 07:45:58 pm
Chip Caray didn't say that gem of a line.
That was Darling? I couldn't remember.
I lol'd at Caray last inning on Punto's fly out: "BASE HIT TO LEFT FIELDDDDDDDD...."
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on October 06, 2009, 08:10:38 pm
Quote from: AB™ on October 06, 2009, 07:45:58 pm
Chip Caray didn't say that gem of a line.
That was Darling? I couldn't remember.
I lol'd at Caray last inning on Punto's fly out: "BASE HIT TO LEFT FIELDDDDDDDD...."
Yeah, it was Darling. I don't miss Chip Caray doing all of the Braves games. I do miss Skip though.
Quote from: AB™ on October 06, 2009, 08:11:44 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on October 06, 2009, 08:10:38 pm
Quote from: AB™ on October 06, 2009, 07:45:58 pm
Chip Caray didn't say that gem of a line.
That was Darling? I couldn't remember.
I lol'd at Caray last inning on Punto's fly out: "BASE HIT TO LEFT FIELDDDDDDDD...."
Yeah, it was Darling. I don't miss Chip Caray doing all of the Braves games. I do miss Skip though.
I was thrilled when Chip Caray and Steve Stone left the Cubs broadcast booth at WGN. They were absolutely awful.
Awesome catch Granderson.
Seriously, other than the Metrodome catching fire, I think we have seen everything tonight.
That was a foot outside.
Good lord I can't believe they just pitched to Mauer there.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on October 06, 2009, 08:19:20 pm
That was a foot outside.
Makes up for the call on Polanco that was a foot inside.
Orlando gets two called strikes on him that weren't even close.
Quote from: rsvl_hogfan4 on October 06, 2009, 08:21:28 pm
Orlando gets two called strikes on him that weren't even close.
It just evens out Polanco getting rung up earlier on a pitch that wasn't that close either.
Quote from: Chris Murphy on October 06, 2009, 08:14:50 pm
Quote from: AB™ on October 06, 2009, 08:11:44 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on October 06, 2009, 08:10:38 pm
Quote from: AB™ on October 06, 2009, 07:45:58 pm
Chip Caray didn't say that gem of a line.
That was Darling? I couldn't remember.
I lol'd at Caray last inning on Punto's fly out: "BASE HIT TO LEFT FIELDDDDDDDD...."
Yeah, it was Darling. I don't miss Chip Caray doing all of the Braves games. I do miss Skip though.
I was thrilled when Chip Caray and Steve Stone left the Cubs broadcast booth at WGN. They were absolutely awful.
The only good thing that came from the Braves not being on TBS anymore is not having to listen to Chip Caray do all of our games.
I liked Chip on the Braves broadcasts.
Yes! Terrible decision by Young there.
Any time the ball is hit in fair territory, Chip Caray sounds like he's about to blow a load.
Quote from: AB™ on October 06, 2009, 08:22:36 pm
Quote from: rsvl_hogfan4 on October 06, 2009, 08:21:28 pm
Orlando gets two called strikes on him that weren't even close.
It just evens out Polanco getting rung up earlier on a pitch that wasn't that close either.
Oh yeah. Forgot two bad calls equal one.
Quote from: Chris Murphy on October 06, 2009, 08:29:11 pm
Any time the ball is hit in fair territory, Chip Caray sounds like he's about to blow a load.
THIS
Bad call there by the ump because it hit Inge. However, I am glad they are making him swing.
Wow. That grazed Inge's jersey. Why can't we use instant replay for stuff like this? It's only the 1 game playoff.
Minnesota just got very lucky. Inge should have gotten first base from that first pitch. It clearly brushed his jersey.
You have to be kidding me. Not to sound whiny, but Detroit should have the lead right now.
Quote from: rsvl_hogfan4 on October 06, 2009, 08:30:39 pm
Quote from: AB™ on October 06, 2009, 08:22:36 pm
Quote from: rsvl_hogfan4 on October 06, 2009, 08:21:28 pm
Orlando gets two called strikes on him that weren't even close.
It just evens out Polanco getting rung up earlier on a pitch that wasn't that close either.
Oh yeah. Forgot two bad calls equal one.
Considering the situation when Polanco was called out on strikes, I'd say it comes close. Runners on 1st and 3rd, no outs, just about any ball put into play scores the runner on third.
I did have to step out for about 20 minutes to run an errand before it got too late so I didn't see the Cabrera strikeout. Was there runners on base? How many outs?
Some amazing baseball being played right now.
I am not sure how much more of this I can take.
The Tigers have batted for the last time.
I will ask again - what good is instant replay if they can't review a clear HBP that very well may have cost the Tigers their season?
Quote from: rsvl_hogfan4 on October 06, 2009, 08:21:28 pm
Orlando gets two called strikes on him that weren't even close.
Except, you know, one of them was. The one he thought was low.
The crap call on Polanco was evened with the call on OC. There was another picth that kind of evened the missed call on Inge, but since that would have been a 1 run lead, it wouldn't have been.
Detroit got screwed. That should have tied the game.
what channel is this on?
I know they shouldn't have been in this situation to begin with, but you gotta feel for Detroit here getting screwed.
Quote from: RD™ on October 06, 2009, 08:46:00 pm
what channel is this on?
Was on TBS.
Game should still be going. Ump blew this game.
Great game. The Yankees should make quick work of the Twins just like they would have if they got to play the Tigers.
Sigh
I don't know whats uglier. That suit or a Yanks Twins series.
The Twins were the benefactors of more bad calls tonight, but it really has no affect on me. I figure the Yankees will win the series in 4 games max. The Twins bullpen is going to be shot and you know the Yankees are ecstatic that this game went into extra innings.
I guess the Hump had one more night of magic left in it carrying over from the Vikings/Packers game a night ago. At least this game should take away some of the non-stop love making ESPN has been giving Brett Favre and the Vikings the last 24 hours.
Quote from: AB™ on October 06, 2009, 08:52:12 pm
The Twins bullpen is going to be shot and you know the Yankees are ecstatic that this game went into extra innings.
Brian Duensing, Carl Pavano, Nick Blackburn, etc... pitching against the Yankees
lol
Twins: 3-23 against the Yankees under Ron Gardenhire, including 0-7 this year.
They said they are 2-2 under Gardenhire in the postseason against the Yankees. How are they not at least 2-3 or 3-2? Did he start managing mid-playoff series one year?
Quote from: AB™ on October 06, 2009, 08:54:07 pm
Twins: 3-23 against the Yankees under Ron Gardenhire, including 0-7 this year.
Ladies and gentlemen, your 2009 ALDS!
:-\
Quote from: AB™ on October 06, 2009, 08:52:12 pm
The Twins were the benefactors of more bad calls tonight, but it really has no affect on me. I figure the Yankees will win the series in 4 games max. The Twins bullpen is going to be shot and you know the Yankees are ecstatic that this game went into extra innings.
I guess the Hump had one more night of magic left in it carrying over from the Vikings/Packers game a night ago. At least this game should take away some of the non-stop love making ESPN has been giving Brett Favre and the Vikings the last 24 hours.
Considering the Vikings and Favre have deserved it...
I don't care what anyone says, the Twins are the best team in the AL Central, and their record against other AL Central teams back me up on that statement. We are now 12-7 against Detroit this season. Wish we could see what kind of team we are with Neshek, Bonser, Slowey, and Morneau available. Also note that Mauer missed the first month. We definitely would have been a 90+ game winner.
That is part of the game though.
Its really too bad that such a great game was diminished a bit by a horrific game by the home plate umpire.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on October 06, 2009, 08:59:57 pm
Its really too bad that such a great game was diminished a bit by a horrific game by the home plate umpire.
A bit? That call probably cost Detroit their season.
I understand they sucked down the stretch, but a ridiculous call like that just can't happen.
Think about if this had happened to the Cardinals for you. I know if the Red Sox were in the Tigers situation, wow, I don't know what I would do. It's tough to fathom what level my anger would be at. Actually, my head might've exploded.
Quote from: rsvl_hogfan4 on October 06, 2009, 08:58:32 pm
Quote from: AB™ on October 06, 2009, 08:52:12 pm
The Twins were the benefactors of more bad calls tonight, but it really has no affect on me. I figure the Yankees will win the series in 4 games max. The Twins bullpen is going to be shot and you know the Yankees are ecstatic that this game went into extra innings.
I guess the Hump had one more night of magic left in it carrying over from the Vikings/Packers game a night ago. At least this game should take away some of the non-stop love making ESPN has been giving Brett Favre and the Vikings the last 24 hours.
Considering the Vikings and Favre have deserved it...
I don't care what anyone says, the Twins are the best team in the AL Central, and their record against other AL Central teams back me up on that statement. We are now 12-7 against Detroit this season. Wish we could see what kind of team we are with Neshek, Bonser, Slowey, and Morneau available. Also note that Mauer missed the first month. We definitely would have been a 90+ game winner.
That is part of the game though.
Again, being the best team in AL Central basically means you're the 10th-12th best team in all of baseball. You still make the playoffs, I know, but congratulations! Your first round playoff series brings you the New York Yankees; the best team in baseball, and a team that has owned the Twins this year.
I'm more sick and tired of hearing about Brett Favre today than I am the Vikings. I swear if I have to hear that "Brett Favre can make throws at 39 that most QB's at 25 can't make..." or "This was Brett Favre's last start as a 30 something year old, and he has now beat all 32 NFL teams..."
But I forgot, the Vikings are the only 4-0 team in the NFL right now.
I also find it funny that all of these other people make remarks about the umps blowing the game and giving it to the Twins and you quote my one post about the Vikings and Brett Favre to call out.
Quote from: AB™ on October 06, 2009, 09:05:16 pm
Quote from: rsvl_hogfan4 on October 06, 2009, 08:58:32 pm
Quote from: AB™ on October 06, 2009, 08:52:12 pm
The Twins were the benefactors of more bad calls tonight, but it really has no affect on me. I figure the Yankees will win the series in 4 games max. The Twins bullpen is going to be shot and you know the Yankees are ecstatic that this game went into extra innings.
I guess the Hump had one more night of magic left in it carrying over from the Vikings/Packers game a night ago. At least this game should take away some of the non-stop love making ESPN has been giving Brett Favre and the Vikings the last 24 hours.
Considering the Vikings and Favre have deserved it...
I don't care what anyone says, the Twins are the best team in the AL Central, and their record against other AL Central teams back me up on that statement. We are now 12-7 against Detroit this season. Wish we could see what kind of team we are with Neshek, Bonser, Slowey, and Morneau available. Also note that Mauer missed the first month. We definitely would have been a 90+ game winner.
That is part of the game though.
Again, being the best team in AL Central basically means you're the 10th-12th best team in all of baseball. You still make the playoffs, I know, but congratulations! Your first round playoff series brings you the New York Yankees; the best team in baseball, and a team that has owned the Twins this year.
I'm more sick and tired of hearing about Brett Favre today than I am the Vikings. I swear if I have to hear that "Brett Favre can make throws at 39 that most QB's at 25 can't make..." or "This was Brett Favre's last start as a 30 something year old, and he has now beat all 32 NFL teams..."
But I forgot, the Vikings are the only 4-0 team in the NFL right now.
I also find it funny that all of these other people make remarks about the umps blowing the game and giving it to the Twins and you quote my one post about the Vikings and Brett Favre to call out.
I didn't say the Vikings were the only 4-0 team. However, we are the only 4-0 team that has a 39 year old QB that drove the length of the field in 1:20 with no timeouts to win. He also has been throwing the ball all over the field and has a good TD to INT ratio. So again, this hype about him and the Vikings is deserving.
That ref was horrible all night. Yes, that hit Inge's shirt. It is in the rules. I am glad he didn't call it though because I would hate to see such a great game end because a guy has a baggy shirt and crowded the plate. Notice I never complained about us being called out at that play at home. However, if you watch it in slow motion for those that have DVR, he actually didn't tag the shoulder until the finger tips hit the corner of the plate. It was a tie, maybe even safe. However, he called him out.
Missed calls all night. Maybe we did, maybe we didn't deserve the game. I won't complain because I know it was a bad call, but I also know we are the better team.
Quote from: rsvl_hogfan4 on October 06, 2009, 09:12:31 pm
Quote from: AB™ on October 06, 2009, 09:05:16 pm
Quote from: rsvl_hogfan4 on October 06, 2009, 08:58:32 pm
Quote from: AB™ on October 06, 2009, 08:52:12 pm
The Twins were the benefactors of more bad calls tonight, but it really has no affect on me. I figure the Yankees will win the series in 4 games max. The Twins bullpen is going to be shot and you know the Yankees are ecstatic that this game went into extra innings.
I guess the Hump had one more night of magic left in it carrying over from the Vikings/Packers game a night ago. At least this game should take away some of the non-stop love making ESPN has been giving Brett Favre and the Vikings the last 24 hours.
Considering the Vikings and Favre have deserved it...
I don't care what anyone says, the Twins are the best team in the AL Central, and their record against other AL Central teams back me up on that statement. We are now 12-7 against Detroit this season. Wish we could see what kind of team we are with Neshek, Bonser, Slowey, and Morneau available. Also note that Mauer missed the first month. We definitely would have been a 90+ game winner.
That is part of the game though.
Again, being the best team in AL Central basically means you're the 10th-12th best team in all of baseball. You still make the playoffs, I know, but congratulations! Your first round playoff series brings you the New York Yankees; the best team in baseball, and a team that has owned the Twins this year.
I'm more sick and tired of hearing about Brett Favre today than I am the Vikings. I swear if I have to hear that "Brett Favre can make throws at 39 that most QB's at 25 can't make..." or "This was Brett Favre's last start as a 30 something year old, and he has now beat all 32 NFL teams..."
But I forgot, the Vikings are the only 4-0 team in the NFL right now.
I also find it funny that all of these other people make remarks about the umps blowing the game and giving it to the Twins and you quote my one post about the Vikings and Brett Favre to call out.
I didn't say the Vikings were the only 4-0 team. However, we are the only 4-0 team that has a 39 year old QB that drove the length of the field in 1:20 with no timeouts to win. He also has been throwing the ball all over the field and has a good TD to INT ratio. So again, this hype about him and the Vikings is deserving.
That ref was horrible all night. Yes, that hit Inge's shirt. It is in the rules. I am glad he didn't call it though because I would hate to see such a great game end because a guy has a baggy shirt and crowded the plate. Notice I never complained about us being called out at that play at home. However, if you watch it in slow motion for those that have DVR, he actually didn't tag the shoulder until the finger tips hit the corner of the plate. It was a tie, maybe even safe. However, he called him out.
Missed calls all night. Maybe we did, maybe we didn't deserve the game. I won't complain because I know it was a bad call, but I also know we are the better team.
well said. Good response.
Maybe the no-call on Inge was a makeup call for allowing Huff to take first when he wasn't hit by a pitch. Oh, and speaking of Inge - me and bulldogs were talking about it last night - that guy is absolutely clutch. I love the guy (no homo).
Also, somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but are the LDS series now 7 games? Or are they still 5? I was thinking they changed them to a 7-game format. The LDS has never been a big deal to me - I'm more interested in the LCS and WS.
Still a 5 gamer. Which means they are a complete crap shoot. I think the entire baseball playoffs is a big crap shoot and betting and/or gambling on them is pointless.
Quote from: Chief_Osceola™ on October 07, 2009, 12:22:27 pm
Also, somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but are the LDS series now 7 games? Or are they still 5? I was thinking they changed them to a 7-game format. The LDS has never been a big deal to me - I'm more interested in the LCS and WS.
You're thinking of the NBA, who moved the first round from 5 games to 7.
I'm pretty happy to say that I've won a free autographed Johnny Pesky photo. That is freaking cool.
Hey Kirk, it was courtesy of a contest run on our Red Sox board.
Never heard of him. ;)
Seriously though, how'd you win? Was it a drawing or what?
Quote from: AB™ on October 09, 2009, 05:42:01 pm
Seriously though, how'd you win? Was it a drawing or what?
There was a contest where we had to pick the total combined runs for the head to head games between the Red Sox and Yankees this season. I won.
What did you guess? And what was the actual answer?
Quote from: AB™ on October 09, 2009, 07:24:00 pm
What did you guess? And what was the actual answer?
I guessed 141. The total was 139.
I haven't got it in the mail yet, but it's actually an autographed Johnny Pesky plaque. Awesome.
Sweet prize.
QuoteMaybe the no-call on Inge was a makeup call for allowing Huff to take first when he wasn't hit by a pitch.
Was that the one where they said it hit his pant leg? If so, that was the right call as well.
^ Yeah that's the one. From the front-side view, the ball bounced in front of his foot and missed his leg by a few inches. Actually I can't remember if it bounced or was just a low pitch, but the view from the front showed the ball missed him. I just happened to be recording the game, and watched it over and over in slo-mo. I also watched that play at the plate where the Twins baserunner was called out. That may be the closest call I've ever seen, and I don't think you could be upset at the umpire for going either way.
On the call where they said it his his leg (pants leg anyway) they made the right call. You could see the slack part of his uniform move whenever the ball hit it. I don't remember it bouncing.
Like I said, you'd have to look closely at the view from the front (the pitcher's perspective). It was close, but the pants those guys wear are so loose that it wouldn't even have to graze them to make them move. Kind of like when you're sitting there in a turning lane and someone speeds by going the opposite direction. You can feel the car sway, but the car didn't actually hit you.
QuoteCloser Jonathan Papelbon(notes) has been an All-Star for the Boston Red Sox since he came into the league in 2006. He's saved 151 games for the team and is the owner of the record for the most consecutive scoreless innings in the postseason with 26. And now the team is supposedly considering trading him.
ESPN's Steve Phillips said as much in an interview on WEEI radio. He says Papelbon will be used to bring a big bat to Boston, which is good because Jason Bay(notes) supposedly wants to move back to the West Coast, where he has a home in Seattle.
After all, the guy has two more years on his contract and there aren't many good closers that will be available this winter through free agency. If Papelbon does get moved, though, he'll have to choose a new entrance song. He currently arrives at the mound to "I'm Shipping Up to Boston," by the Dropkick Murphys.
Um, wow. Talk about some big time news here. I'm not surprised though. Just makes me wonder what big bat could potentially be coming back our way.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/rumors/p...urn=mlb,195832
I heard them talking about Papelbon possibly being traded for a bat to make room for Bard as the closer a few weeks ago on either Baseball Tonight or something, can't really remember. The news about Bay possibly being dealt is news to me though.
Quote from: AB™ on October 14, 2009, 10:27:19 pm
I heard them talking about Papelbon possibly being traded for a bat to make room for Bard as the closer a few weeks ago on either Baseball Tonight or something, can't really remember.
I mean, it's not a sure thing that Papelbon is going to be traded. I think this is more to see what we might be able to get for him, and if it's good enough they can pull the trigger on it.
Quote from: AB™ on October 14, 2009, 10:27:19 pmThe news about Bay possibly being dealt is news to me though.
Bay is a free agent. Absolutely no way to tell if he's coming back or not at this point.
Ahh, ok, then the stuff about Bay makes more sense. I wasn't aware he was a FA. If he has a home in the West Coast then I wouldn't be surprised to see him leave. I know Seattle had a pretty good season this year, but I can't imagine him leaving the Red Sox for the Mariners unless they are offering him a ton of money. I could see him wanting to play for the Angels or Dodgers though.
When I heard them talking about Papelbon possibly being dealt they were just speculating because the Red Sox front office was so high on Bard. I figured it was nothing more than speculation right now but it may gain some steam in the winter.
Quote from: AB™ on October 14, 2009, 10:54:25 pm
Ahh, ok, then the stuff about Bay makes more sense. I wasn't aware he was a FA. If he has a home in the West Coast then I wouldn't be surprised to see him leave. I know Seattle had a pretty good season this year, but I can't imagine him leaving the Red Sox for the Mariners unless they are offering him a ton of money. I could see him wanting to play for the Angels or Dodgers though.
Jason Bay is from Trail, British Columbia, which is really close to Seattle. I'm not sure if the Mariners are preparing to offer him something big or not. He very well could be back with us in Boston next year. We'll see though.
I think the Sox should go after Matt Holliday. He'd fit right in since he's such an underachiever in clutch moments. ;D
Quote from: jbell96 on October 15, 2009, 12:31:29 am
I think the Sox should go after Matt Holliday. He'd fit right in since he's such an underachiever in clutch moments. ;D
I'm all aboard the sign Bay/Holliday and John Lackey train and calling it an off-season.
I don't see Lackey leaving the Angels, but I can dream.
You know all season I said over and over again that we had to resign Holiday or win the Series for that trade to be a good one for us. I still stand by that.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on October 15, 2009, 01:27:02 am
You know all season I said over and over again that we had to resign Holiday or win the Series for that trade to be a good one for us. I still stand by that.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on July 25, 2009, 02:35:39 am
There are two things that will make me think this is a good deal for us. 1. We win the world series 2. we sign him for more than this season. If neither of those happens its one of the worst trades in Cardinal history.
Indeed. How do you like your chances of keeping him?
I also said I thought it was a bad trade at the time due to A) St. Louis probably not winning the World Series and B) probably not re-signing him either
While we're at it, check out this gem:
Quote from: ASU Rugby on July 24, 2009, 03:35:40 pm
Actually, if the market looks like it did last year he (Matt Holliday) may take arbitration and give him a chance to have a bigger year and enter a bigger market.
lol
Word is Matt (like anyone else who plays there) loves St. Louis and that they have been in talks for about a month. I think we have a solid chance at getting him again and if we do I doubt we go after DeRosa. I think we could see Allen Craig or David Freese get a shot at 3rd next season.
Steve Phillips suspended!!
http://backporch.fanhouse.com/2009/10/21/steve-phillips-brooke-hundley-affair-leads-to-reported-espn-susp/?icid=main|htmlws-main-n|dl2|link2|http://backporch.fanhouse.com/2009/10/21/steve-phillips-brooke-hundley-affair-leads-to-reported-espn-susp/
They made a very "somber" announcement about Phillips being suspended today around 2 o'clock at the end of Sportscenter.
Not surprising. His affairs over the years have been well documented.
That girl was... not attractive. Not that it really matters. I'm just sayin.
Where'd you see a picture of her Josh?
When I googled her the only one that came up was one of her with a referee shirt on and a whistle. You couldn't really tell much from it though. I don't think she looked that attractive in the pic but she wasn't exactly the most unattractive girl I've ever seen.
Phillips has always annoyed me and now we know he's a scumbag. Guess I now have a good reason to not like him.
Quote from: AB™ on October 21, 2009, 07:53:05 pm
I don't think she looked that attractive in the pic but she wasn't exactly the most unattractive girl I've ever seen.
You might take that back after you see this:
(http://www.nypost.com/rw/nypost/2009/10/21/news/photos_stories/phillips_gal120324--300x300.jpg)
Oh wow. She's, ummm, manish. The on'y pic that popped up on google was a face shot and she didn't look fat, and she didn't have a severe case of man face.
I'm not saying Steve Phillips is a great looking guy, but he's not ugly, has money, and a little fame, and that's the best he can do?
Quote from: AB™ on October 21, 2009, 11:06:50 pm
I'm not saying Steve Phillips is a great looking guy, but he's not ugly, has money, and a little fame, and that's the best he can do?
Maybe he's a closet homosexual, because that looks just like a dude.
She looks like some 16 year old video game nerd who's never kissed a girl before. You're right, looks just like a dude with long hair.
She looks more like Steve Phillips than Steve Phillips does.
Phillies picked up Cliff Lee's 9 million dollar option for 2010.
JJ Hardy got sent somewhere, but I don't remember.
Quote from: RHS on November 06, 2009, 10:51:55 pm
JJ Hardy got sent somewhere, but I don't remember.
To the Twins for Carlos Gomez, I think.
Zack Grienke wins the AL Cy Young today. Glad to see the voters got it right. Hopefully there will be a Redbird getting the hardware on the NL side.
MLB looking to speed up playoffs. I like it.
Click (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=AtvVnMSOreiwOsBvKSrCjdypu7YF?slug=ap-mlb-playoffsschedule&prov=ap&type=lgns)
I'm so happy for Zach.
Lincecum won the NL Cy Young.
I know Cardinals fans are gonig ot hate that, but honestly Lincecum had a great case at the award, and I don't really have a problem with him winning it.
Only 10 points separated the top three.
Lincecum 100 votes
Carpenter 94
Wainwright 90
Lincecum had no business winning that award plain and simple.
How? There's never been a pitcher in the past with an ERA as low as his and as many strikeouts as he had that didn't win the Cy Young. He also lead the league in quality starts and strikeouts. He had a lower WHIP, a lower ERA, and more strikeouts than Wainwright, and only Carp had a lower ERA than Lincecum. I know he had 15 wins, but I think wins is about the last stat you should look at when chosing a Cy Young winner, and it looks like the Cy Young voters did that.
Now, before you jump down my throat, if I had a vote, it would have gone to Wainwright. I'm just saying that Lincecum had some business winning the award, as did Wainwright and Carpenter. I wouldn't have been upset about any of those three winning it.
It also should be noted that Wainwright received the most 1st place votes, which makes it even more surprising he finished behind both Lincecum and Carpenter.
Lincecum: 11 (1st) 12 (2nd) 9 (3rd) = 100 points
Carpenter: 9 14 7 = 94 points
Wainwright: 12 5 15 = 90 points
On the 5-3-1 scoring system.
Knee jerk anger reaction probably. I just don't see how you could vote him over either Cardinal.
I understand. If I was a Cardinal fan I would be outraged right now. And like I said, Wainwright is who I would have voted for. Lincecum deserved some consideration. I think all three had some claim at it.
My top 5...
Wainwright
Lincecum
Carpenter
Vazquez
Cain
Jason Stark was just on ESPN and said he didn't have Carpenter on his ballot at all since you just get 3 votes. He went Lincecum-Wainwright-Vazquez. I wish the Braves had made the playoffs and Vazquez could have got a few more wins and better run support because the rest of his numbers were as good or better than Lince/Wainwright/Carp.
I hate that Waino didn't get it. But, I went in knowing that I couldn't logically argue against any of the 3 getting it.
Yeah, you could build a very strong csae for all three, but I think you could probably build the slightly stronger case fro Wainwright.
Quote from: AB™ on November 19, 2009, 02:30:47 pm
I understand. If I was a Cardinal fan I would be outraged right now. And like I said, Wainwright is who I would have voted for. Lincecum deserved some consideration. I think all three had some claim at it.
My top 5...
Wainwright
Lincecum
Carpenter
Vazquez
Cain
Jason Stark was just on ESPN and said he didn't have Carpenter on his ballot at all since you just get 3 votes. He went Lincecum-Wainwright-Vazquez. I wish the Braves had made the playoffs and Vazquez could have got a few more wins and better run support because the rest of his numbers were as good or better than Lince/Wainwright/Carp.
I now loathe Jason Stark. How does Carp not go in the top 3?
Quote from: jbell96 on November 19, 2009, 10:25:47 pm
Quote from: AB™ on November 19, 2009, 02:30:47 pm
I understand. If I was a Cardinal fan I would be outraged right now. And like I said, Wainwright is who I would have voted for. Lincecum deserved some consideration. I think all three had some claim at it.
My top 5...
Wainwright
Lincecum
Carpenter
Vazquez
Cain
Jason Stark was just on ESPN and said he didn't have Carpenter on his ballot at all since you just get 3 votes. He went Lincecum-Wainwright-Vazquez. I wish the Braves had made the playoffs and Vazquez could have got a few more wins and better run support because the rest of his numbers were as good or better than Lince/Wainwright/Carp.
I now loathe Jason Stark. How does Carp not go in the top 3?
If you read his articles or listen to him Stark has become a parody of himself. He has gotten so full of himself he thinks hes bigger than the game. Its pathetic.
Quote from: jbell96 on November 19, 2009, 10:25:47 pm
Quote from: AB™ on November 19, 2009, 02:30:47 pm
I understand. If I was a Cardinal fan I would be outraged right now. And like I said, Wainwright is who I would have voted for. Lincecum deserved some consideration. I think all three had some claim at it.
My top 5...
Wainwright
Lincecum
Carpenter
Vazquez
Cain
Jason Stark was just on ESPN and said he didn't have Carpenter on his ballot at all since you just get 3 votes. He went Lincecum-Wainwright-Vazquez. I wish the Braves had made the playoffs and Vazquez could have got a few more wins and better run support because the rest of his numbers were as good or better than Lince/Wainwright/Carp.
I now loathe Jason Stark. How does Carp not go in the top 3?
It's almost like he felt he couldn't vote for 2 guys off the same team, so he voted Wainwright since he had the better year of the two. Then he found the next best after Carpenter. I'll give them this though. At the top, this was one of the best year's for National League pitching. You've got those 3 and Haren and Vasquez and then throw in the addition of Cliff Lee at the end
Happy 40th birthday, Ken Griffey Jr.
Happy 89th birthday, Stan Musial.
My cousin has been added to the Marlins 40 man roster!
http://florida.marlins.mlb.com/team/roster_active.jsp?c_id=fla
Lincecum was easily the the third best pitcher in the NL this year.
Not to mention the fact that he CHOKED down the stretch with the Giants in a Wild Card race.
Looks like teams are bending over for the Yankees again.
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/10492960/Sources:-Yanks-on-verge-of-Granderson-deal
I think this is a horrible deal for Detroit. I like the Twins' chances to repeat as division champs.
Granderson to NYY. Wow, as if they needed anyone else.
Peter Gammons to part ways with ESPN to "pursue other endeavors."
Found this post about it on another board:
Possible "new endeavors":
Writing about the Red Sox
Talking about the Red Sox
Watching the Red Sox
Starting a blog about the Red Sox
Working for the Red Sox
Writing about the Red Sox
Just awesome. Looks like it's basically official now.
Granderson to the Yankees in a three team deal between the Yankees, D-Backs, and Tigers.
It's not like they weren't already a juggernaut now they add an All-Star CF in his prime. Dmn I hate this team but I guess I can't get to ticked off by this since they didn't just go out and by Granderson off the FA market.
Quote from: AB™ on December 08, 2009, 05:12:24 pm
Just awesome. Looks like it's basically official now.
Granderson to the Yankees in a three team deal between the Yankees, D-Backs, and Tigers.
It's not like they weren't already a juggernaut now they add an All-Star CF in his prime. Dmn I hate this team but I guess I can't get to ticked off by this since they didn't just go out and by Granderson off the FA market.
You should be ticked at the Tigers & D'Backs for just bending over & letting the Yankees have their way with them. Why teams do crap like that really ticks me off.
The Tigers got some nice young players out of the deal and it wasn't like the D-Backs got a bunch of nobodies, but why in the world would either team agree to a deal to send a All-Star OF in his prime to the defending champs? The fact that the Yankees didn't have to give up Joba or Hughes in the deal is the most baffling part of if to me.
Boston is close to signing John Lackey.
Cliff Lee to Seattle, Roy Halladay to Philadelphia
Just saw that, but no word on who Seattle is giving up.
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on December 14, 2009, 03:40:06 pm
Cliff Lee to Seattle, Roy Halladay to Philadelphia
Frick. The braves are effed. Again.
If they had retained Lee I still would have only had a small glimmer of hope that the Braves could win the division. Them getting Halladay pretty wiped away any hope I had in Atlanta competing for the division crown.
Let's hope we can find a way to fill some holes and contend for the WC.
Seattle Gives: Aumont, 2 prospects to Philly, 1 additional prospect to Toronto
Seattle Gets: Lee
Philly Gives: Lee, D'Arnaud, Taylor
Philly Gets: Halladay, 2 prospects from Seattle
Toronto Gives: Halladay
Toronto Gets: Aumont, D'Arnaud, Taylor, 1 additional prospect from Seattle
is the current buzz
Well as the one Mariners fan on the board, even though RHS may still like them too, I'm cautiously optimistic. I wasn't very excited about the Bedard trade a couple of years ago because I knew that Jones was going to be a good one and Sherril was good as well. I'm more excited about this because I think Lee is much better than Bedard and more proven. I think Bedard had one great year and was hyped up too much. We also didn't give up too much of our top farm talent either. I do think Gillies will be a good one, but we have a CF in Gutierrez that should be here for a long time hopefully. I'm not all that worked up over losing Aumont or Ramirez either.
Just my 2 cents though, Hernandez and Lee at the top of the rotation is really exciting though if they both keep doing what they have been.
Quote from: AB™ on December 14, 2009, 04:22:41 pm<br />If they had retained Lee I still would have only had a small glimmer of hope that the Braves could win the division. Them getting Halladay pretty wiped away any hope I had in Atlanta competing for the division crown. <br /><br />Let's hope we can find a way to fill some holes and contend for the WC.<br />
Unfortunately, the last few years, this has always been the case.
Quote from: dc24 on December 16, 2009, 09:25:29 pm
Well as the one Mariners fan on the board, even though RHS may still like them too, I'm cautiously optimistic. I wasn't very excited about the Bedard trade a couple of years ago because I knew that Jones was going to be a good one and Sherril was good as well. I'm more excited about this because I think Lee is much better than Bedard and more proven. I think Bedard had one great year and was hyped up too much. We also didn't give up too much of our top farm talent either. I do think Gillies will be a good one, but we have a CF in Gutierrez that should be here for a long time hopefully. I'm not all that worked up over losing Aumont or Ramirez either.
Just my 2 cents though, Hernandez and Lee at the top of the rotation is really exciting though if they both keep doing what they have been.
Seattle definitely may be able to stake claim at having the best 1-2 pitching punch in all of baseball. (St. Louis fans will argue, and deservedly so.)
I had no clue that Adam Jones was a part of the Bedard deal a few years ago. That was a dumb trade. Jones is a potential 30/30 guy and already showed signs of his studliness. Bedard had more than just one real good year in Baltimore. He didn't have a bunch of spectacular seasons, but he strung together some very solid years on a terrible team in an extremely tough division for pitchers to put up decent numbers.
Yeah, he was, I was really worried about including him. I know Bedard had some solid other years, but he was way over hyped after the great year. He proved to be pretty effective when healthy, but he just kept getting hurt and others were questioning his heart. I was pretty skeptical from the get go though, even though some people were predicting us to win the AL West that year and everything.
I never knew Adam Jones was in the Seattle farm system and part of the deal. Like you said, including him for Bedard wasn't too bright. Jones is a young 5 tool player. Bedard is a very solid #3 option, but only when he's healthy, and that appears to be no too often.
Quote from: AB™ on December 17, 2009, 02:14:21 am
I never knew Adam Jones was in the Seattle farm system and part of the deal. Like you said, including him for Bedard wasn't too bright. Jones is a young 5 tool player. Bedard is a very solid #3 option, but only when he's healthy, and that appears to be no too often.
Bedard certainly isn't worth Adam Jones.
Quote from: Ty on December 17, 2009, 07:26:48 am
Quote from: AB™ on December 17, 2009, 02:14:21 am
I never knew Adam Jones was in the Seattle farm system and part of the deal. Like you said, including him for Bedard wasn't too bright. Jones is a young 5 tool player. Bedard is a very solid #3 option, but only when he's healthy, and that appears to be no too often.
Bedard certainly isn't worth Adam Jones.
Adam Jones is the kind of prospect you get a Cy Young caliber pitcher out of. Or at least a top of the line starter with a few All-Star appearances.
I don't follow too many teams and their farm systems (especially outside of the Braves) but I'm guessing that Jones wasn't only one of the top prospects in Seattle's farm system, but probably one of baseball's top prospects at the time of the Bedard trade.
Quote from: AB™ on December 17, 2009, 02:04:31 pm
Quote from: Ty on December 17, 2009, 07:26:48 am
Quote from: AB™ on December 17, 2009, 02:14:21 am
I never knew Adam Jones was in the Seattle farm system and part of the deal. Like you said, including him for Bedard wasn't too bright. Jones is a young 5 tool player. Bedard is a very solid #3 option, but only when he's healthy, and that appears to be no too often.
Bedard certainly isn't worth Adam Jones.
Adam Jones is the kind of prospect you get a Cy Young caliber pitcher out of. Or at least a top of the line starter with a few All-Star appearances.
I don't follow too many teams and their farm systems (especially outside of the Braves) but I'm guessing that Jones wasn't only one of the top prospects in Seattle's farm system, but probably one of baseball's top prospects at the time of the Bedard trade.
Yeah, he was one of the top prospects in baseball, but we never really gave him much of a chance. I think it was the only way Baltimore would accept the trade. We sent Sherril and three other prospects too, but I don't know how the other prospects have faired. It was still a horrible trade though. Bedard was thought to be a #1 pitcher at the time though. Apparently that coaching staff thought of him more highly than Felix. Oh well, like I said, we have a great CF now that is fairly young and we're moving in the right direction now.
It figures the Mariners would have a good team right when I'm leaving the Seattle/Tacoma area.
Quote from: dc24 on December 17, 2009, 04:46:31 pm
Quote from: AB™ on December 17, 2009, 02:04:31 pm
Quote from: Ty on December 17, 2009, 07:26:48 am
Quote from: AB™ on December 17, 2009, 02:14:21 am
I never knew Adam Jones was in the Seattle farm system and part of the deal. Like you said, including him for Bedard wasn't too bright. Jones is a young 5 tool player. Bedard is a very solid #3 option, but only when he's healthy, and that appears to be no too often.
Bedard certainly isn't worth Adam Jones.
Adam Jones is the kind of prospect you get a Cy Young caliber pitcher out of. Or at least a top of the line starter with a few All-Star appearances.
I don't follow too many teams and their farm systems (especially outside of the Braves) but I'm guessing that Jones wasn't only one of the top prospects in Seattle's farm system, but probably one of baseball's top prospects at the time of the Bedard trade.
Yeah, he was one of the top prospects in baseball, but we never really gave him much of a chance. I think it was the only way Baltimore would accept the trade. We sent Sherril and three other prospects too, but I don't know how the other prospects have faired. It was still a horrible trade though. Bedard was thought to be a #1 pitcher at the time though. Apparently that coaching staff thought of him more highly than Felix. Oh well, like I said, we have a great CF now that is fairly young and we're moving in the right direction now.
Seattle quietly had a solid season last year. The Angels and Rangers made all the noise in the West but the Mariners weren't as far behind as many may thing. Adding Cliff Lee gives them a scary 1-2 punch and the Mariners should be improved from last year given their youth. The Angels losing Lackey and eventually Guerrero may mean a fall for them. I could see the Mariners or Rangers winning the Division next year if the Angels don't get a top of the line starter to replace Lackey.
Haha yes! The Cubs have gotten rid of Milton Bradley. Traded him to Seattle today for Carlos Silva and $9 million. It doesn't matter to me if he goes there and does well, I'm glad to be rid of him. Personally, I think he will do well in Seattle, due to the fact that it's not as major of a market as Chicago and there's less pressure on the team there. As for the Cubs end of the deal, don't know about Silva, but I'm glad about the $9 million. This allows us some money to go after a real center fielder and slide Fukudome back over to right.
Ever think you've gotten over a team you loved but realized you never will? I have to change back to calling myself a Mariners fan. It wasn't normal for me bailing on them last year since I've stuck with every team I've liked since I picked them. I'll still pay attention to the Sox since they battle the yanks and are their main competetiors, but if you met me I would say "I'm RHS. I'm a Mariners fan."
Rumor has it that the Yankees are getting Javier Vasquez from Atlanta for Melky Cabrera and two prospects. W T F Atlanta?
Quote from: jbell96 on December 22, 2009, 10:43:57 am
Rumor has it that the Yankees are getting Javier Vasquez from Atlanta for Melky Cabrera and two prospects. what in the world Atlanta?
This is getting ridiculous.
Quote from: jbell96 on December 22, 2009, 10:43:57 am
Rumor has it that the Yankees are getting Javier Vasquez from Atlanta for Melky Cabrera and two prospects. W T F Atlanta?
I want to cuss.
Why do teams just bend over & take it from the Yankees? Someone please tell me this.
This move pushes the Yank-mes salary for next season over $200 million. That's just ridiculous.
Baseball has to grow a pair and set a salary cap. The Yankees and Scott Boras are going to destroy this game.