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Re: Magnet Cove Open?
« Reply #500 on: April 18, 2017, 03:33:00 pm »
Next time one of those folks who are making decisions needs heart, cancer or brain surgery, be sure to pick the surgeon that is the nicest, cheapest, knows somebody and is the best fit.  To heck with best surgeon, qualifications are over-rated.

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Re: Magnet Cove Open?
« Reply #501 on: April 18, 2017, 03:35:59 pm »
Well that escalated quickly..

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Re: Magnet Cove Open?
« Reply #502 on: April 18, 2017, 03:46:13 pm »
One applicant has a ring as a head coach, 4 more as an OC, and has coached college football. He didn't get an interview. But after reading all this, he is glad.

Sounds like this fantastic hire was way over qualified.  1 ring as HC and 4 as an OC and coached college fb. boy!  What was he doing even thinking about a job in a 2A school?

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Re: Magnet Cove Open?
« Reply #503 on: April 18, 2017, 03:47:30 pm »
Did any of you Cove folks even read this guys post?!?!?!?  Guy hasn't coached a game yet and already the "experts" are passing judgement on who "they" would have hired. 
......and you wonder why you can't win.... MAYBE the problem isn't the kids it's the grown folks.....

Don't you  think folks may have a point about wanting a highly qualified HC?

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Re: Magnet Cove Open?
« Reply #504 on: April 18, 2017, 04:36:37 pm »
No one from the Cove that I know is bashing the new guy. In fact, we are bashing the administration and how they have handled EVERY coach at that school. I wanna know why the girls coach still has a job after the talk Iv heard. She sent a kid to the dadgum hospital by ambulance bc she wouldn't listen to her and she had a bad asthma attack. Iv heard more but that's pretty bad in and if itself. As far as the grown folks, we all feel sorry for the crap storm this kid is coming into. My own kid is excited and can't wait to get to work with someone new

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Re: Magnet Cove Open?
« Reply #505 on: April 18, 2017, 08:37:37 pm »
Best of luck, a guy with only 2 years better have a plan to follow and stick to it or he's gonna have a bunch of people trying to run over him.  Winning will help, hopefully he will.

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Re: Magnet Cove Open?
« Reply #506 on: April 19, 2017, 11:34:29 am »
Sounds like this fantastic hire was way over qualified.  1 ring as HC and 4 as an OC and coached college fb. boy!  What was he doing even thinking about a job in a 2A school?

I was just commenting on qualified coaches.

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Re: Magnet Cove Open?
« Reply #507 on: April 19, 2017, 11:38:09 am »
He has been coaching for 5 years, head coach for 2 of them years, he also only had 11 players on the team and won 5 games  in one year and had a lot of close ones. He seems to have big plans for us at the cove and seems like he will help our program tremendously so i think he deserves a chance and  i believe he will shock everyone next year.

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Re: Magnet Cove Open?
« Reply #508 on: April 19, 2017, 11:40:14 am »
He is 24 been coaching for 5 years? He may end up a good coach, but as an administrator this hire simply can't be justified.

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Re: Magnet Cove Open?
« Reply #509 on: April 19, 2017, 11:53:33 am »
Coaching resume looks good. Has coached for 5 years, 1 year at Arkansas tech as assistant WR's coach. 1 year Coaching WR's and DB's at a high school in Arkansas and 1 year doing the same at another school. Then the last two years has been Head Coach at Glenbrook Private school in Louisiana with a overall record of 6-15. His enthusiasm and commitment is promising.

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Re: Magnet Cove Open?
« Reply #510 on: April 19, 2017, 12:12:55 pm »
Coaching resume looks good. Has coached for 5 years, 1 year at Arkansas tech as assistant WR's coach. 1 year Coaching WR's and DB's at a high school in Arkansas and 1 year doing the same at another school. Then the last two years has been Head Coach at Glenbrook Private school in Louisiana with a overall record of 6-15. His enthusiasm and commitment is promising.

He's been coaching high school since he was 19?  Doesn't add up. Man is 24 He can't have 5 years experience.

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Re: Magnet Cove Open?
« Reply #511 on: April 19, 2017, 12:30:32 pm »
The Doogie Howser of High School Football

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Re: Magnet Cove Open?
« Reply #512 on: April 19, 2017, 01:32:17 pm »
Did someone mention George O'Leary?

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Re: Magnet Cove Open?
« Reply #513 on: April 19, 2017, 01:39:13 pm »
The Doogie Howser of High School Football


I'm dead. lol.

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Re: Magnet Cove Open?
« Reply #514 on: April 19, 2017, 03:35:08 pm »
I'm trying to figure this 5 year math equation out myself. I mean you would think if your good enough to coach at 19 then you would be good enough to be playing?

Also seems the players are tooting a different horn now?? What happen to he won't be around long if the team has anything to say about it? Oh and Panther_forever here is your big chance to make a difference. Talk him into signing that contract? See if he's gonna live up to your hype

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Re: Magnet Cove Open?
« Reply #515 on: April 19, 2017, 04:12:03 pm »
Few folks trying to pad the resume he was basically the go get this student assistant at a mediocre college for a year. Student coach at a high school then had 2 losing seasons at a small private school in Louisiana. But he is enthusiastic so we won't worry about anything else.

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Re: Magnet Cove Open?
« Reply #516 on: April 19, 2017, 08:23:43 pm »
He's been coaching high school since he was 19?  Doesn't add up. Man is 24 He can't have 5 years experience.
He told us he started out at cc and when they played us he fell inlove with the mc pride and he said if the job ever opened up he was going to take it

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Re: Magnet Cove Open?
« Reply #517 on: April 19, 2017, 08:38:37 pm »
So was he like 17 then?

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Re: Magnet Cove Open?
« Reply #518 on: April 19, 2017, 11:01:57 pm »
He told us he started out at cc and when they played us he fell inlove with the mc pride and he said if the job ever opened up he was going to take it

This has got to stop. I wonder who writes this stuff. 

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Re: Magnet Cove Open?
« Reply #519 on: April 20, 2017, 07:02:06 am »
But according to the "team" he wasn't going to be there long if they had anything to say about it

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Re: Magnet Cove Open?
« Reply #520 on: April 20, 2017, 07:49:42 am »
But according to the "team" he wasn't going to be there long if they had anything to say about it
That and this entire thread should make other coaches really want to work there.

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Re: Magnet Cove Open?
« Reply #521 on: April 20, 2017, 11:54:47 am »
He's been coaching high school since he was 19?  Doesn't add up. Man is 24 He can't have 5 years experience.
My mistake, his first year was as an student coach at 19 and 20. But the coaching at Arkansas tech and the two years at Glenbrook is correct.

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Re: Magnet Cove Open?
« Reply #522 on: April 20, 2017, 04:50:43 pm »
I don't know that a couple years as an assistant coach at 19-20 is much on a resume.  Coaching a ATech, I assume as a student asst somehow, and then Glenbrook.  It still comes down to a few years and getting a job over candidates with much more experience, there is something we do not know.

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Re: Magnet Cove Open?
« Reply #523 on: April 20, 2017, 07:28:38 pm »
Talking to anybody involved with this debacle is like trying to nail jello to the wall. Figure if they were proud of the decision they would be all about talking him up. I'm with Gameoflife there is something more to this story. People involved avoid this discussion like the plague. Maybe a decision by the head man who knows.

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Re: Magnet Cove Open?
« Reply #524 on: April 20, 2017, 08:20:38 pm »
Perhaps its more a case of more qualified candidates for the job making mistakes during their interview or making what the school considered unreasonable demands or requirements.

Just speculating.

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Re: Magnet Cove Open?
« Reply #525 on: April 20, 2017, 08:57:28 pm »
Or maybe it was a candidate turning in a 52 page plan and the admin being overwhelmed. They like to have control over everything pretty much.

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Re: Magnet Cove Open?
« Reply #526 on: April 20, 2017, 09:06:52 pm »
Or maybe it was a candidate turning in a 52 page plan and the admin being overwhelmed. They like to have control over everything pretty much.

Good point.    The trend now is for coaching candidates to turn in something that details their program plans.

In regards to what I said earlier,   I remember a guy with massive amounts of head coaching experience and was considered a  sure fire choice for the position.

But when interviewed,   he opened by saying that no matter what he wasn't touching the field. (mowing, painting, et cetera).

He lost the job right there.

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Re: Magnet Cove Open?
« Reply #527 on: April 20, 2017, 09:50:45 pm »
You can read and reread the post on this topic but any reasonable thinking person who was hiring for the purpose of getting the best coach and AD would not see the result of the search committee making much logical sense.  Unless, there were folks who want to run the program their way and have a puppet at their command.  Think?

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Re: Magnet Cove Open?
« Reply #528 on: April 20, 2017, 10:02:32 pm »
Rumor mill can take what they want from this but as the rumor stands: the super has ties to the kid and pushed hard for him. He has less experience and according to magnets web page and their "special board meeting" minutes the kid also was given $1500 a year raise. Now, the old AD/head fb coach with years of experience wasn't making that much so it's def not a "we can pay him less to do the same job" scenario. But people wonder why the community is up in arms?  Fishy business over there and yet NO ONE who's involved can or will give an explanation. Fishy fishy fishy.

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Re: Magnet Cove Open?
« Reply #529 on: April 20, 2017, 10:09:24 pm »
How does a $1500 raise get a guy with 2 years experience as a certified teacher more money than the outgoing HC/AD who has enough years to retire?  Yearly steps for most teachers are around 4-500 dollars, so there is only 3 years worth.  I would believe the Super has ties to the kid. That and another interesting story I heard.

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Re: Magnet Cove Open?
« Reply #530 on: April 20, 2017, 10:15:30 pm »
There's always more to the story.

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Re: Magnet Cove Open?
« Reply #531 on: April 21, 2017, 06:22:10 am »
And the plot thickens!!!!

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Re: Magnet Cove Open?
« Reply #532 on: April 21, 2017, 07:46:23 am »
Good hook RZ. Now let that other rumor fly.

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Re: Magnet Cove Open?
« Reply #533 on: April 21, 2017, 07:53:44 am »
How does a $1500 raise get a guy with 2 years experience as a certified teacher more money than the outgoing HC/AD who has enough years to retire?  Yearly steps for most teachers are around 4-500 dollars, so there is only 3 years worth.  I would believe the Super has ties to the kid. That and another interesting story I heard.

If he was at a private school, do the step ups still count?  Or would he be at step 0?

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Re: Magnet Cove Open?
« Reply #534 on: April 21, 2017, 08:27:10 am »
And added a 2000 stipend for strength and conditioning land college recruiting coordinator!

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Re: Magnet Cove Open?
« Reply #535 on: April 21, 2017, 08:38:07 am »
If he was at a private school, do the step ups still count?  Or would he be at step 0?
should be 0

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Re: Magnet Cove Open?
« Reply #536 on: April 21, 2017, 09:47:36 am »
I bet facebook in Magnet Cove is fun.

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Re: Magnet Cove Open?
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Re: Magnet Cove Open?
« Reply #538 on: April 21, 2017, 09:52:49 am »
I would guess it's up to the school if they wanted to count it. Won't count towards retirement at all

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Re: Magnet Cove Open?
« Reply #539 on: April 21, 2017, 10:01:48 am »
Also saw in the minutes they increased the new basketball hire to a 230 day contract. The strength training for football was $2000 new position they created and the AD stipend went up $1500. A lot of big decisions made at a "special" board meeting just 4 days before the regularly scheduled meeting.  ::)

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Re: Magnet Cove Open?
« Reply #540 on: April 21, 2017, 10:14:40 am »
Increasing coaches salaries is never a bad thing.  If this doesn't work out those dollar figures will stick and will help in the future. 

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Re: Magnet Cove Open?
« Reply #541 on: April 21, 2017, 10:45:50 am »
Good hook RZ. Now let that other rumor fly.

I got the information sort of second hand so I'll have to think about it. 
Also all the pay raise information is interesting also. His experience would count if the school alows it, most likely has to be certified teaching experience so the student assistant stuff would not. 

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Re: Magnet Cove Open?
« Reply #542 on: April 21, 2017, 11:12:51 am »
Or maybe it was a candidate turning in a 52 page plan and the admin being overwhelmed. They like to have control over everything pretty much.

I had heard this from a friend. Mind telling who that was?

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Re: Magnet Cove Open?
« Reply #543 on: April 21, 2017, 11:16:16 am »
I have heard also that one coach has resigned and that a board member did as well.  Can anyone confirm or debunk this?

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Re: Magnet Cove Open?
« Reply #544 on: April 21, 2017, 11:42:53 am »
For sure one board member resigned.

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Re: Magnet Cove Open?
« Reply #545 on: April 21, 2017, 12:26:14 pm »
Ties to the Superintendent I hope was not the case, because most of the board members will not be sitting there come next election. He will be first to go with a new board if this is the case.

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Re: Magnet Cove Open?
« Reply #546 on: April 21, 2017, 01:18:18 pm »
It looks like there is more to the story.  Certainly there were a couple of camps that favored different candidates and from what I gather neither got the job. The story I got was that one of them presented a very specific plan for the football program and the athletic program and was well received. The problem was more of a case of one person on the committee. I hope that wasn't the case but I've heard this from a couple of sources.

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Re: Magnet Cove Open?
« Reply #547 on: April 21, 2017, 04:34:54 pm »
Here is my crazy outta whack conspiracy theory lol. Take it for what it's worth.
1. MC wanted to go with no Alumni whatsoever. I mean do you notice any former MC alumni in administrative positions? I mean heaven forbid there be a true Panther in a administrative roll.

2. Some of the admin has such a hatred for Glen Rose that they were willing to pass on a coach who had a very successful tenure under coach kehner. As well as having a coach who played his high school football at MC when Kehner was coaching there.

3. If the above 2 coaches had been hired then a game with Glen Rose would have been inked and played in 2018. By not going with  one of them the admin was able to keep this game from happening and losing thousands of dollars in gate revenue.

On a closing note I tend to feel a little bad for the outgoing coaching staff as they did the best they could with the cards dealt. I heard as part of the improvement plan they were given the admin wanted easier non conference games scheduled so the team moral would not be down before conference play. Wow

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Re: Magnet Cove Open?
« Reply #548 on: April 21, 2017, 06:57:23 pm »
Well they hired a GR basketball coach so I'm not sure on the GR football let down. And I don't see the board or the super retaining positions in the future. The community is in an uproar over this entire thing. To much shade being thrown.

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Re: Magnet Cove Open?
« Reply #549 on: April 21, 2017, 07:26:43 pm »
Hey SR30, did your infatuation with GR start before or after they made you soil your pants as a senior in HS?

 

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