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Title: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: WPWells on November 12, 2016, 09:49:30 am
Opened last night with an ugly win over Fort Wayne (who's projected to win the Summit League). Glad we weren't upset, but we need to be better. Could be a fun year
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: beach bum on November 12, 2016, 12:46:19 pm
Fort Wayne had a player listed on ESPN as a dark horse to win Player of the Year in all of college basketball....
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Romeo on November 15, 2016, 10:55:36 am
My new favorite coach: http://www.wholehogsports.com/news/2016/nov/14/southern-illinoiss-barry-hinson-issues-arkansas-fa/
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 15, 2016, 11:26:47 am
Well...it is still football season. The crowds will get better when Football is over...
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: WPWells on November 15, 2016, 11:34:41 am
Hogs move to 2-0!
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: ricepig on November 15, 2016, 11:35:52 am
Quote from: Fred Bird on November 15, 2016, 11:34:41 am
Hogs move to 2-0!

They looked pretty good at times last night, hopefully the students and fans will show up.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AirWarren on November 15, 2016, 11:36:55 am
Macon can play.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: WPWells on November 15, 2016, 11:37:17 am
I'll be there on non-Monday/Tuesday games. Monday night is trivia and Tuesday night is college ministry. Otherwise I'm there
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: ricepig on November 15, 2016, 12:00:05 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on November 15, 2016, 11:36:55 am
Macon can play.

I remember when he was a SR at PV playing at Jonesboro in the state tournament, he was a skinny kid, haha, but was a player. I had a big PV supporter sitting behind me and I kept asking him where he would play? I don't think he had the grades out of high school and that was the reason he went the JUCO route, it looks like he filled out some.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Romeo on November 15, 2016, 12:09:22 pm
Quote from: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 15, 2016, 11:26:47 am
Well...it is still football season. The crowds will get better when Football is over...

Thing is, 13,000 tickets were sold for the game and only 4,000 showed up, which was the second smallest crowd at BWA.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 15, 2016, 12:50:01 pm
Quote from: Romeo on November 15, 2016, 12:09:22 pm
Thing is, 13,000 tickets were sold for the game and only 4,000 showed up, which was the second smallest crowd at BWA.
Haven't been following BB that close...are we supposed to be bad? Was there a clearance sale at Dillards? That's crazy...
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: WPWells on November 15, 2016, 12:50:32 pm
We're actually supposed to be really solid...
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: OB11 on November 15, 2016, 01:00:05 pm
Quote from: Romeo on November 15, 2016, 10:55:36 am
My new favorite coach: http://www.wholehogsports.com/news/2016/nov/14/southern-illinoiss-barry-hinson-issues-arkansas-fa/

He absolutely blasted the fan base.  I'm honestly not sure what his past connection to Arkansas is, but I found it very odd that an opposing coach would call out a fan base like that. 

Not saying I didn't enjoy it a little bit though.  ;D
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 15, 2016, 01:11:05 pm
Quote from: Fred Bird on November 15, 2016, 12:50:32 pm
We're actually supposed to be really solid...
Where are we picked to finish in the west?
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: WPWells on November 15, 2016, 02:01:48 pm
Quote from: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 15, 2016, 01:11:05 pm
Where are we picked to finish in the west?

Basketball doesn't break down by division, but we're picked fifth in the conference. Second among West teams behind A&M
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: LRRandy on November 15, 2016, 02:10:37 pm
Quote from: OB11 on November 15, 2016, 01:00:05 pm
He absolutely blasted the fan base.  I'm honestly not sure what his past connection to Arkansas is, but I found it very odd that an opposing coach would call out a fan base like that. 

Not saying I didn't enjoy it a little bit though.  ;D
i bet if the game was I little rock more fans would have been there.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AirWarren on November 15, 2016, 02:24:43 pm
Quote from: Romeo on November 15, 2016, 10:55:36 am
My new favorite coach: http://www.wholehogsports.com/news/2016/nov/14/southern-illinoiss-barry-hinson-issues-arkansas-fa/

That's awesome.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: BannerMountainMan on November 15, 2016, 02:35:12 pm
This is easily a sweet sixteen team if they can gel together and get some more chemistry together. Macon and Barford are a better combo than madden and bell ever were even though I liked them! Kingsley and Hannahs will most definetly be there and Thomas is much improved 4 guy than Miles was, Thompson Beard and Watkins are reliable off the bench! Jones the freshman look impressive last night! And Bailey and Cook will help! Gonna be a fun year I just now knew about this thread! I love Razorback basketball!! Definetly deserve a better crowd!
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Lions84 on November 15, 2016, 02:53:11 pm
We been so bad since Nolan left it going to take a SEC title and several good tourney runs to get it back . In the early 1990's you could not get a ticket and after the NC I had friends who took off early on Mondays to go to the hill and would come in late Tuesdays.

But not anymore. Plus more games are TV know than then, Maybe that NWA crowd will get back to going again.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Romeo on November 15, 2016, 03:01:42 pm
I had some concerns about C.J. Jones on whether he could play at this level but in two short games, he's already proven he's no Doobie Jenkins.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: ricepig on November 15, 2016, 04:29:04 pm
Quote from: Romeo on November 15, 2016, 03:01:42 pm
I had some concerns about C.J. Jones on whether he could play at this level but in two short games, he's already proven he's no Doobie Jenkins.

Last night was his first action, he had a knee injury for a couple of weeks and they held him out of the opener. What little they showed from Itay proved he wasn't a Doobie, haha.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Redwolves8526 on November 16, 2016, 09:10:47 am
Wonder what kind of record Arkansas will need to get in the tourney? SEC looks weak again this year
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: beach bum on November 16, 2016, 09:18:54 am
Quote from: Redwolves8526 on November 16, 2016, 09:10:47 am
Wonder what kind of record Arkansas will need to get in the tourney? SEC looks weak again this year

I think a lot of that has to do with how we fair in our three tough road games in non conferences against Oklahoma State, Texas, and Minnesota. Texas is in Houston so you can pretty much chalk that up as a road game for us. If we only win 1 of those games I think we would have to go minimum 12-6 in the SEC and maybe even 13-5. If we win 2 out of 3 of those road non conference games I think even an 11-7 SEC record may do the trick if you have 2 solid out of conference wins on the road in your pocket. We have to win a game at the SEC tournament too. The way the schedule fell our home schedule is very easy as our tough non conference games are on the road as well as our 1 game against Kentucky in Lexington. For us to have the season we are expecting as Hog fans we have to go undefeated at Bud Walton or no more than 1 loss at home.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AirWarren on November 16, 2016, 10:55:41 am
Quote from: Romeo on November 15, 2016, 03:01:42 pm
I had some concerns about C.J. Jones on whether he could play at this level but in two short games, he's already proven he's no Doobie Jenkins.

No more Doobie Jenkins. Please.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: BannerMountainMan on November 16, 2016, 11:42:30 am
Quote from: Redwolves8526 on November 16, 2016, 09:10:47 am
Wonder what kind of record Arkansas will need to get in the tourney? SEC looks weak again this year
i believe 22-9 and 12-6 in SEC will get em there, and 1 or 2 wins in the SEC tourney
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: beach bum on November 17, 2016, 03:59:16 pm
It is not worth a thing because we are only one week into the season but Lunardi  on ESPN came out with his first bracketology and Arkansas is his 2nd team out of the tournament so they think we will be a solid team. It has the SEC with only 3 bids so we definitely need to finish in the top 4 of the SEC to even have a chance at the dance. I couldn't see the SEC having anymore than 5 bids for sure and that would be with a good non conference showing by the SEC as a whole.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: ricepig on November 17, 2016, 04:01:54 pm
Way too early to know, we may have some good non-conference wins in the conference, or a bunch of turds.....
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: BannerMountainMan on November 18, 2016, 08:20:19 am
Only reason they don't have us in the tourney is because they are not for sure how well the JUCOs are gonna play.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Longfellow on November 18, 2016, 08:38:02 am
Quote from: BannerMountainMan on November 18, 2016, 08:20:19 am
Only reason they don't have us in the tourney is because they are not for sure how well the JUCOs are gonna play.
Or maybe it's that this team isn't very good
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: BannerMountainMan on November 18, 2016, 11:47:59 am
Quote from: Longfellow on November 18, 2016, 08:38:02 am
Or maybe it's that this team isn't very good
Do you even follow razorback basketball? Because if you did you'd know that this is a tourney team man.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: HorseFeathers on November 18, 2016, 10:56:47 pm
Quote from: BannerMountainMan on November 18, 2016, 11:47:59 am
Do you even follow razorback basketball? Because if you did you'd know that this is a tourney team man.

That escaped ut-Arlington tonight.....
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: WPWells on November 18, 2016, 10:58:35 pm
Quote from: HorseFeathers on November 18, 2016, 10:56:47 pm
That escaped ut-Arlington tonight.....

UT-Arlington is picked to win their conference.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: bdubyab60 on November 18, 2016, 10:58:53 pm
Showed some guts coming back from 17 down, taking the lead and holding on for the win.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: BannerMountainMan on November 18, 2016, 11:02:04 pm
3-0 win win win, that was a really really good team, they have all their players back from last year and they had a surprise year last year when it was susposed to be rebuilding, so it's a good win against them! Let's get that W Tuesday @ Minnesota
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AirWarren on November 18, 2016, 11:16:11 pm
Go Hogs!
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 19, 2016, 09:17:47 am
UT Arlington? hmmmmmmm, is this another rebuilding year for the hogs?
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 19, 2016, 09:20:34 am
UT Arlington? hmmmmmm, is this another rebuilding year for the hogs?
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Romeo on November 19, 2016, 12:52:20 pm
Dustin Thomas isn't an All-American player, but he's a HUGE upgrade from what we've had at the 4 in the past with Michael Sanchez, Devonta Abron (shortest vertical jump ever), JaCorey Williams and Alandise Harris.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: BannerMountainMan on November 19, 2016, 04:06:45 pm
Quote from: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 19, 2016, 09:20:34 am
UT Arlington? hmmmmmm, is this another rebuilding year for the hogs?
According to Joe Lunardi UT Arlington is in the tourney, susposed to win their conf. And top 40 team
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: BannerMountainMan on November 20, 2016, 08:38:01 pm
Kentucky is beatable this year, they are so young and they have gotten out rebounding by 4 or 5 in the first 3 games. Just gotta block out and play with our potential
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: beach bum on November 20, 2016, 10:15:12 pm
I hope our awful offensive game on Friday gets evened out with some hot shooting on Tuesday.... To win on the road in a tough environment like Minnesota you will have to make some deep balls in numbers.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: WPWells on November 22, 2016, 07:44:14 pm
No movement on offense. A whole lot of standing around. Not sure why Mike Anderson doesn't see that a one-on-one style offense where people mostly just stand around doesn't work
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: bdubyab60 on November 22, 2016, 07:45:14 pm
Watkins is a turnover machine. I would prefer him to never shoot. Another horrible first half
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: beach bum on November 22, 2016, 07:52:58 pm
Make easy lay ups and act like possession of the basketball means something and maybe we might be in this... This is pathetic. I also agree we should be sharing the basketball more but they give it to the other team 1/4 of the time.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: WPWells on November 22, 2016, 07:53:27 pm
Pathetic.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: beach bum on November 22, 2016, 07:56:22 pm
Quote from: Fred Bird on November 22, 2016, 07:53:27 pm
Pathetic.

Do what I did... Changed it to MLS playoffs. Montreal scored right as I turned the channel and it's 2-0 early. The house is rocking in Olympic Stadium in Montreal.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AirWarren on November 22, 2016, 07:56:26 pm
Quote from: bdubyab60 on November 22, 2016, 07:45:14 pm
Watkins is a turnover machine. I would prefer him to never shoot. Another horrible first half

I'm ready for Watkins to go. Been multiple years now of that garbage play.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: OB11 on November 22, 2016, 07:58:48 pm
Quote from: Fred Bird on November 22, 2016, 07:44:14 pm
No movement on offense. A whole lot of standing around. Not sure why Mike Anderson doesn't see that a one-on-one style offense where people mostly just stand around doesn't work

Might need to get used to seeing that.  With Anderson bringing in 5 guys next year from the same AAU team, don't be surprised if they play AAU style ball.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: WPWells on November 22, 2016, 08:15:22 pm
Quote from: beach bum on November 22, 2016, 07:56:22 pm
Do what I did... Changed it to MLS playoffs. Montreal scored right as I turned the channel and it's 2-0 early. The house is rocking in Olympic Stadium in Montreal.

I'm watching Laurie Hernandez slay on Dancing With the Stars
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: beach bum on November 22, 2016, 08:24:07 pm
Quote from: Fred Bird on November 22, 2016, 08:15:22 pm
I'm watching Laurie Hernandez slay on Dancing With the Stars

Anything right now will do over the Hog basketball game....
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AirWarren on November 22, 2016, 08:34:45 pm
No a good early indication of our play against power 5 competition.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: bdubyab60 on November 22, 2016, 08:43:14 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on November 22, 2016, 07:56:26 pm
I'm ready for Watkins to go. Been multiple years now of that garbage play.
He hustles defensively but not near the return on the offensive end when he turns it over or forces some wild shot that nearly breaks the backboard.

I'm fine with running dribble drive offense but your best shooter needs plays ran for him and Hannah's is getting lost in this kind of play.

Minnesota had twice the turnovers we had but more points because we give up 8 dunks in one half.

I'm sure this team will be fun to watch at times, still think it's going to take some time for them to gel.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: bdubyab60 on November 22, 2016, 08:51:52 pm
Plus the constant parade to the free throw line by our opponents doesn't help. Seems like every game they are in the double bonus before we even get a chance to shoot freethrows. When the other team makes more freethrows than you attempt you are putting yourself at a serious disadvantage
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AirWarren on November 22, 2016, 09:04:49 pm
Lots of growing pains and new faces.


We will see if the invalid fans start calling for MA head.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 26, 2016, 12:39:19 pm
Don't keep up with basketball like I used to but here is my prediction for the upcoming season...

22-9 record
10-3 Noncon with losses to Minnesota (Obviously), Texas (@Houston) and Okie State @Stillwater
12-6 Conference with losses to Georgia @Home, Kentucky @Lexington, Texas A&M (Twice), Florida Twice (Why are we playing across conference twice?)...We may lose to Vandy at Vandy also...and of course we may win one we are not supposed to win...

If what I say happens do we make the dance?
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: WPWells on November 26, 2016, 01:27:09 pm
Yes as around a 10
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: VHSCoach2 on November 26, 2016, 01:38:53 pm
Quote from: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 26, 2016, 12:39:19 pm
Don't keep up with basketball like I used to but here is my prediction for the upcoming season...

22-9 record
10-3 Noncon with losses to Minnesota (Obviously), Texas (@Houston) and Okie State @Stillwater
12-6 Conference with losses to Georgia @Home, Kentucky @Lexington, Texas A&M (Twice), Florida Twice (Why are we playing across conference twice?)...We may lose to Vandy at Vandy also...and of course we may win one we are not supposed to win...

If what I say happens do we make the dance?

The SEC doesn't use divisions in basketball.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 26, 2016, 02:34:18 pm
Quote from: VHSCoach2 on November 26, 2016, 01:38:53 pm
The SEC doesn't use divisions in basketball.
So no East and West? Hmmmm, didn't know that...
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: VHSCoach2 on November 26, 2016, 03:10:05 pm
Quote from: Coach Venny Slocombe on November 26, 2016, 02:34:18 pm
So no East and West? Hmmmm, didn't know that...

I believe they got rid of divisions in basketball when Texas A&M and Missouri joined the conference.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: bdubyab60 on November 28, 2016, 07:48:02 pm
Not looking to horrible tonight. But shoot play a little defense
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: ricepig on November 28, 2016, 08:41:16 pm
Quote from: bdubyab60 on November 28, 2016, 07:48:02 pm
Not looking to horrible tonight. But shoot play a little defense

I guess I know where the zero effort on defense in football came from, the basketball team's effort the last few years. I've never seen a team play :27 on the shot clock, and then give up an uncontested layup or 3, crazy.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AirWarren on November 28, 2016, 08:44:55 pm
To L with razorback Athletics right now.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: bdubyab60 on November 28, 2016, 08:57:47 pm
Quote from: ricepig on November 28, 2016, 08:41:16 pm
I guess I know where the zero effort on defense in football came from, the basketball team's effort the last few years. I've never seen a team play :27 on the shot clock, and then give up an uncontested layup or 3, crazy.
We give up way too many of those kinds of opportunities. Did. Enter in the second half on it but it's been an issue. Poor rotation and communication.

Looks like this team should get better though, hopefully. Got some guys who can shoot. Kingsley has to get going though.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: BannerMountainMan on November 28, 2016, 10:10:54 pm
To y'all bashing Manny, he's the hardest worker on the team, if everybody worked as hard as him on the floor with the other players talents we could get somewhere
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: bdubyab60 on November 28, 2016, 10:41:50 pm
No ones doubting his work ethic and hustle
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: ricepig on November 29, 2016, 10:01:11 am
Quote from: bdubyab60 on November 28, 2016, 10:41:50 pm
No ones doubting his work ethic and hustle

Nope, just isn't a very good shooter. I think I could beat him in a game of HORSE, but I could always shoot, haha.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: bdubyab60 on November 29, 2016, 10:11:52 am
Quote from: ricepig on November 29, 2016, 10:01:11 am
Nope, just isn't a very good shooter. I think I could beat him in a game of HORSE, but I could always shoot, haha.
Exactly. He takes some horrible shots, doesn't exactly have the best handle either and tends to force a lot of things offensively, which turns in to turnovers. Now I think Watkins hustles his butt off, works hard on defense and gets some boards but he almost completely counteracts that by what he does on the offensive end sometimes. Now every player has bad games but this has been pretty consistent with Watkins over the years.

Watkins does need to play though imo. Just needs to make better decisions when he has the ball. Players play a lot better when they don't force things.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AirWarren on November 29, 2016, 10:22:32 am
Quote from: bdubyab60 on November 28, 2016, 10:41:50 pm
No ones doubting his work ethic and hustle

Nope. He just isn't a good basketball player.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Romeo on November 29, 2016, 10:29:00 am
As one basketball coach once told me, the worst thing you can call a division I basketball player is just a hard worker. That means they have zero talent and they go strictly on effort. Players like that are good for practice, but not good for keeping your job.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: BannerMountainMan on December 01, 2016, 08:15:44 am
So don't overlook those early season wins since Fort Wayne beat top 5 Indiana and UT Arlington beat Texas at Texas
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: beach bum on December 05, 2016, 07:28:50 pm
Quote from: BannerMountainMan on December 01, 2016, 08:15:44 am
So don't overlook those early season wins since Fort Wayne beat top 5 Indiana and UT Arlington beat Texas at Texas

Those wins are why I couldn't believe when I looked today we are ranked #19 in the RPI.... Minnesota as our only loss is #8. A lot of people don't realize that the human polls of the Coaches and AP carry little to no weight when the committee meets in March. It's all your RPI and record vs. the RPI top 100 and top 50. It's pretty hard to miss the tourney from history if you stay below 30 in the RPI.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: BannerMountainMan on December 05, 2016, 08:58:30 pm
We have more talent than that 2014 team I just don't know how long it will take to mesh together
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: bdubyab60 on December 06, 2016, 06:58:50 pm
So I'm listening on the radio. We are ten. I park to go in to a ballgame, get a coke, find a seat, turn on my watch app and bam we are down. Would be nice to get this one.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: WPWells on December 06, 2016, 08:12:17 pm
Got a nice win over a Houston team that will probably be in the tournament.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: ricepig on December 06, 2016, 08:20:59 pm
Quote from: bdubyab60 on December 06, 2016, 06:58:50 pm
So I'm listening on the radio. We are ten. I park to go in to a ballgame, get a coke, find a seat, turn on my watch app and bam we are down. Would be nice to get this one.

Patience, grasshopper, patience.......we are like DJ Industrials, up one minute, down the next.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: BannerMountainMan on December 06, 2016, 09:31:35 pm
Could easily be 10-3,11-2 after all our non-conf games and that looks real good for RPI, gotta atleast go 11-7 in Conf or better. Gonna be fun
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: bdubyab60 on December 06, 2016, 09:44:19 pm
Quote from: ricepig on December 06, 2016, 08:20:59 pm
Patience, grasshopper, patience.......we are like DJ Industrials, up one minute, down the next.
Yeah lol. I was just a little surprised that all it took was a walk from the truck to the gym. I did turn it back on in between yelling at refs and saw we were up.

Saw one of the worst charging call I've ever seen tonight. Then another ref watch a kid step out right beside him and just flat ignore and laugh in a fans face about it. Some of these 2A guys are some darn good refs
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: beach bum on December 06, 2016, 10:28:05 pm
Gritty win tonight. Got to get the next one to set up a big game against the Longhorns.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: bdubyab60 on December 07, 2016, 07:31:48 am
I'll ask the question. How much better would we be, if at all, if we had Monk. I think we have the same record as of now. Down the road could have given us an extra win maybe two, maybe not. One or two wins could be a tourney team and maybe not.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: ricepig on December 07, 2016, 07:59:41 am
Quote from: bdubyab60 on December 07, 2016, 07:31:48 am
I'll ask the question. How much better would we be, if at all, if we had Monk. I think we have the same record as of now. Down the road could have given us an extra win maybe two, maybe not. One or two wins could be a tourney team and maybe not.

Hard to tell at this point, he'd be the best player, I don't know if he'd be best for the team as a player. I don't think we're ready for one and done's as KY, Duke, or Kansas are.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: BannerMountainMan on December 07, 2016, 08:27:31 am
I'll tell you one thing Monk might be more explosive but Daryl Macon is the real deal!
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: bdubyab60 on December 07, 2016, 09:10:34 am
Quote from: ricepig on December 07, 2016, 07:59:41 am
Hard to tell at this point, he'd be the best player, I don't know if he'd be best for the team as a player. I don't think we're ready for one and done's as KY, Duke, or Kansas are.
Kind of what Im saying. He probably would have put more people in the seats but overall the team may have performed the same. May have helped recruiting a little. Just don't think it would make a huge difference in where this team will finish the season.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: beach bum on December 07, 2016, 09:20:12 am
Quote from: BannerMountainMan on December 07, 2016, 08:27:31 am
I'll tell you one thing Monk might be more explosive but Daryl Macon is the real deal!

I think next year he can polish his game enough to be first team ALL-SEC... Maybe not quite ready this year for that, but he has that type of ability for sure.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: smallybells on December 07, 2016, 09:53:07 am
I watched the Houston game in its entirety. I don't understand MA constantly restricting Hannah's minutes especially favor of someone like Manny Watkins but yet the kid still manages to be one of the top scorers and he hustles on D, it makes no sense to me , but what do I know.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: WPWells on December 07, 2016, 12:36:08 pm
Look at the splits with Hannahs on the court vs off the court. There's your answer
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Post by: beach bum on December 07, 2016, 03:05:11 pm
What Fred said.. Also him and Beard play well together for some reason too. The second unit was not doing a thing on offense til this second unit was put into place. It is working...
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: smallybells on December 07, 2016, 03:26:31 pm
Quote from: Fred Bird on December 07, 2016, 12:36:08 pm
Look at the splits with Hannahs on the court vs off the court. There's your answer

Guess I'm not grasping what "splits" you are referring to. I know that Watkins played 27 minutes to the tune of 6, shooting 27% from the floor. Hannahs played 17 minutes with 17 points, shooting 54% from the floor. Watkins didn't have any other mind boggling stats anywhere else either.
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Post by: BannerMountainMan on December 07, 2016, 05:04:40 pm
Watkins has had solid games in every one of the games so far plus he is the best assist man on the team and best defender, Hannahs got sat on the bench after two horrible games but then the past few games he got it back on track, MA called him out
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: bdubyab60 on December 07, 2016, 05:06:18 pm
Quote from: BannerMountainMan on December 07, 2016, 05:04:40 pm
Watkins has had solid games in every one of the games so far plus he is the best assist man on the team and best defender, Hannahs got sat on the bench after two horrible games but then the past few games he got it back on track, MA called him out
Watkins has not been solid in every game.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: ricepig on December 07, 2016, 05:30:29 pm
Manny has a 10:1 assist to turnover ratio, you can't complain about that. He isn't out there for scoring, but defense and toughness.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: BannerMountainMan on December 07, 2016, 05:48:56 pm
Moved up to Number 16 in RPI, just keep winning! Hard to keep anybody under 40 outta the Tourney
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: HorseFeathers on December 07, 2016, 06:18:16 pm
Quote from: ricepig on December 07, 2016, 05:30:29 pm
Manny has a 10:1 assist to turnover ratio, you can't complain about that. He isn't out there for scoring, but defense and toughness.

There's other aspects to judge a basketball player other than points scored?
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: WPWells on December 07, 2016, 07:14:07 pm
Not if it doesn't fit your agenda
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: mack on December 07, 2016, 07:19:51 pm
Quote from: HorseFeathers on December 07, 2016, 06:18:16 pm
There's other aspects to judge a basketball player other than points scored?

Boom, drop the mic!

There is always room on any team for a guy that plays good defense and doesn't turn the ball over, who has leadership skills.  He's not unlike Corey Beck.  Not as accomplished, but similar.  As for Hannahs, I love him, but until last night, he was not performing like last year.  He produces consistently, he'll get more minutes.
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Post by: bdubyab60 on December 07, 2016, 07:53:29 pm
Quote from: ricepig on December 07, 2016, 05:30:29 pm
Manny has a 10:1 assist to turnover ratio, you can't complain about that. He isn't out there for scoring, but defense and toughness.
Id question those stats, is that for his career or for the season. I'd also call some of the shots he takes are equal to turnovers. He has his good points
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: ricepig on December 07, 2016, 08:38:10 pm
Quote from: bdubyab60 on December 07, 2016, 07:53:29 pm
Id question those stats, is that for his career or for the season. I'd also call some of the shots he takes are equal to turnovers. He has his good points


http://www.arkansasrazorbacks.com/stats/mbb/2016-17/teamcume.htm
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Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on December 07, 2016, 09:43:51 pm
I know there are some sore feelings because Monk went to Kentucky...but if anybody thinks we would not be better with him is just plain crazy. That kid can play. Watched him twice this season and he can flat out play with anyone in the country. He would give this team some much needed spark...
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: bdubyab60 on December 08, 2016, 07:14:32 am
Quote from: ricepig on December 07, 2016, 08:38:10 pm

http://www.arkansasrazorbacks.com/stats/mbb/2016-17/teamcume.htm
Im still calling bull. I watched him turn it over 4 times against MN. Just watched the Houston game he had one assist that I saw, his man scored he was guarding scored 8 and he had two shot that I remember that hit the backboard and rim so hard it's a wonder they weren't broken. Someone is cooking the books. I guess they have him an assist for the runner that almost hit the shot clock and another guy put in. He did do better in the second half.

Like I said I see the hustle and those intangibles. But he's got more turnover than 2
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Post by: BannerMountainMan on December 09, 2016, 07:28:16 am
Now UT Arlington upsets No. 12 Mt. St. Mary's! These early wins just keep looking better!
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: WPWells on December 09, 2016, 10:53:28 am
Our RPI will be soaring if these teams keep winning
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Post by: bdubyab60 on December 09, 2016, 12:37:22 pm
The more they win the better we look
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Post by: BannerMountainMan on December 10, 2016, 04:44:04 pm
And Houston now beats #25 Rhode island
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Post by: bdubyab60 on December 10, 2016, 06:41:19 pm
Pulled away in the end in this one.
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Post by: BannerMountainMan on December 11, 2016, 11:50:49 am
Arkansas received 6 votes to be in Top 25
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Longfellow on December 11, 2016, 12:08:09 pm
Quote from: BannerMountainMan on December 11, 2016, 11:50:49 am
Arkansas received 6 votes to be in Top 25
In the USA Today poll. No votes in the AP poll
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Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on December 11, 2016, 02:49:53 pm
Wow, big win last night. The Ospreys will be a tourney team for sure. We have beat half the tourney teams so far. How we will not be a top four seed in the dance would be crazy... :o

And for the record, Hannah's should be in the game unless he is hurt... ;)
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Post by: bdubyab60 on December 11, 2016, 03:53:58 pm
I don't see anyone claiming that. But any win is good. Some are looking better than others since those teams for now have shown to be better than what some thought. May not stay like that but for now it looks ok.

As far as Hannah's he's starting to get it going again
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on December 11, 2016, 04:21:31 pm
Quote from: bdubyab60 on December 11, 2016, 03:53:58 pm
I don't see anyone claiming that. But any win is good. Some are looking better than others since those teams for now have shown to be better than what some thought. May not stay like that but for now it looks ok.

As far as Hannah's he's starting to get it going again
Yeah it was sarcasm...there are a couple on here claiming every team we play is a tourney team. Too early for any of that junk...Hannah's comment was serious though...
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: BannerMountainMan on December 11, 2016, 06:50:31 pm
All I'm saying is all these scrub teams we are playing have beaten a top 25 team or two so maybe they aren't bad. You get me.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: bdubyab60 on December 11, 2016, 07:15:31 pm
Quote from: Coach Venny Slocombe on December 11, 2016, 04:21:31 pm
Yeah it was sarcasm...there are a couple on here claiming every team we play is a tourney team. Too early for any of that junk...Hannah's comment was serious though...
Probably on Hogville lol. A lot of those guys probably have us running the table.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on December 11, 2016, 11:12:02 pm
Quote from: bdubyab60 on December 11, 2016, 07:15:31 pm
Probably on Hogville lol. A lot of those guys probably have us running the table.
lol...you may want to check the post above yours...he thinks we could beat the Cav's...lol...
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: bdubyab60 on December 12, 2016, 07:29:08 am
Quote from: Coach Venny Slocombe on December 11, 2016, 11:12:02 pm
lol...you may want to check the post above yours...he thinks we could beat the Cav's...lol...
Maybe lol. But we have played a little better and should continue to get better. This is a borderline tourney team and is going to have to win some games it's not supposed to by the end of the year to get in.

I'm a believer that the good old days are gone, at least for now. I was upset at the MN loss, not because we lost but for the most part we looked like crap. Those happen though and we probably have a couple more. Teams with size that take care of the ball are going to give us fits.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: BannerMountainMan on December 14, 2016, 11:09:59 am
How do y'all think we fair against mediocre Texas?  but it's not at Bud Walton so there ain't no telling what to expect.
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Post by: WPWells on December 14, 2016, 11:10:27 am
I hope we win! I think it'll be a good game - Fastest 40 vs. Havoc. We could see a lot of points
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Post by: beach bum on December 14, 2016, 11:45:04 am
We must find a way to win this.....
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Post by: BannerMountainMan on December 17, 2016, 11:33:20 am
Great day to be alive!! WPS!
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Post by: BannerMountainMan on December 17, 2016, 01:49:56 pm
Is there even any refs in this game, Arkansas getting murdered and no calls
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Post by: WPWells on December 17, 2016, 02:23:49 pm
And Texas is getting everything. It's ridiculous
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Post by: ricepig on December 17, 2016, 04:01:48 pm
Whew, at least it's a win.
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Post by: BannerMountainMan on December 17, 2016, 04:06:21 pm
Great win! If we win next two, go 11-1 into SEC play and somehow beat Florida we be ranked.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: WPWells on December 17, 2016, 04:55:31 pm
Good win today
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: beach bum on December 17, 2016, 05:35:30 pm
Quote from: BannerMountainMan on December 17, 2016, 04:06:21 pm
Great win! If we win next two, go 11-1 into SEC play and somehow beat Florida we be ranked.

I am getting a little excited myself thinking of the potential. I am a little worried about that Sam Houston State game as silly as that sounds. They have 7 or 8 wins themselves and that game is on Thursday away from home after our Tuesday game at Bud Walton. That is a quick turn around and a trap game.
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Post by: bdubyab60 on December 17, 2016, 05:47:23 pm
A little crazy at the end but got the W
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Post by: beach bum on December 17, 2016, 06:55:02 pm
Malik Monk drops 47 on North Carolina in a 103-100 Kentucky win..... He doesn't even have close to an NBA body. When he muscles up over time he is going to be something in the pros. You just see it.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: mack on December 17, 2016, 08:39:42 pm
Who is Malik Monk......

These guys have only had what, 8 games together?  They should get better and better as the year goes on.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: ricepig on December 17, 2016, 08:56:02 pm
Quote from: mack on December 17, 2016, 08:39:42 pm
Who is Malik Monk......

These guys have only had what, 8 games together?  They should get better and better as the year goes on.

Some guy that put up 47 tonight, but we didn't need him.....
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Post by: beach bum on December 17, 2016, 09:02:41 pm
Too bad that game against Kentucky is not in Fayetteville... Imagine if we get to 13-1 going into Kentucky. Bud Walton would have actually sold out with Monk coming to town and the crowd would have been insane. Stinks we have to go to Rupp.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: bdubyab60 on December 17, 2016, 09:05:42 pm
Quote from: beach bum on December 17, 2016, 06:55:02 pm
Malik Monk drops 47 on North Carolina in a 103-100 Kentucky win..... He doesn't even have close to an NBA body. When he muscles up over time he is going to be something in the pros. You just see it.
Taysean Prince didn't and neither does Kevin Durant. Yeah they are taller but are still slight in build compared to their height.

He would have given us another 2-4 wins I think.
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Post by: mack on December 17, 2016, 09:05:49 pm
Nah Rice.... He didn't need us.  I hope he and Kevaughn go on to make a ton of money, but I could care less about watching them....
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: BannerMountainMan on December 17, 2016, 09:14:39 pm
Quote from: mack on December 17, 2016, 09:05:49 pm
Nah Rice.... He didn't need us.  I hope he and Kevaughn go on to make a ton of money, but I could care less about watching them....
same +1
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Post by: ricepig on December 17, 2016, 09:53:19 pm
Quote from: mack on December 17, 2016, 09:05:49 pm
Nah Rice.... He didn't need us.  I hope he and Kevaughn go on to make a ton of money, but I could care less about watching them....

I actually didn't watch any of it, but his scoring was being updated by someone in my twitter timeline. I hope the lose every game, I'm no Calipari fan.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Romeo on December 18, 2016, 12:48:04 pm
I still think losing Monk to Kentucky was like if McFadden chose Alabama over Arkansas. However, its hard to argue he made the wrong decision. Sellout crowds every game, more television exposure and your pretty much treated like a rock star as a Kentucky player. Meanwhile, we have to move fans sitting in the upper deck down to the front row to make the crowd look respectable. The interest in Arkansas Basketball just isn't the same as it was in the 90s.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: BannerMountainMan on December 18, 2016, 12:50:55 pm
Quote from: Romeo on December 18, 2016, 12:48:04 pm
I still think losing Monk to Kentucky was like if McFadden chose Alabama over Arkansas. However, its hard to argue he made the wrong decision. Sellout crowds every game, more television exposure and your pretty much treated like a rock star as a Kentucky player. Meanwhile, we have to move fans sitting in the upper deck down to the front row to make the crowd look respectable. The interest in Arkansas Basketball just isn't the same as it was in the 90s.
guarentee you it'll be like that if we keep on winning. Just gotta hope!!
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: mack on December 18, 2016, 04:41:12 pm
We're competitive.  This team will get better.  We will always have trouble recovering from early exits  to the NBA.  Portis and Qualls stay one more year, and we're not hearing all the gripes.  I think we dance the next two years, and then it gets even better!
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Post by: ricepig on December 18, 2016, 05:14:38 pm
Quote from: mack on December 18, 2016, 04:41:12 pm
We're competitive.  This team will get better.  We will always have trouble recovering from early exits  to the NBA.  Portis and Qualls stay one more year, and we're not hearing all the gripes.  I think we dance the next two years, and then it gets even better!

We need to, the natives are starting to get a little nervous. It's obvious we have signed and or committed some real good talent, but we can't wait forever.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: beach bum on December 18, 2016, 06:22:47 pm
I am putting the magic number for Arkansas to get to the NCAA no problems/take it to the bank at 24 wins.... That sounds very high, but will be needed. Win the next two and we start 11-1. If we lose to OK State in January then we will need a 12-6 SEC record and one win at the SEC tourney for 24 total. If we beat OK State and hold two wins against the Big 12 away from Bud Walton I say only an 11-7 SEC record will get the job done(possibly only 10-8 would then do the trick cause the committee really loves non conference wins away from home).... I know 24 sounds like a high number needed, but I am saying what is needed to cash the check at the NCAA bid bank no questions asked! Does that sound roughly right to you? I think we could do it with 1 or 2 less wins, but would need some helping out from other teams.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: BannerMountainMan on December 18, 2016, 06:26:12 pm
Quote from: beach bum on December 18, 2016, 06:22:47 pm
I am putting the magic number for Arkansas to get to the NCAA no problems/take it to the bank at 24 wins.... That sounds very high, but will be needed. Win the next two and we start 11-1. If we lose to OK State in January then we will need a 12-6 SEC record and one win at the SEC tourney for 24 total. If we beat OK State and hold two wins against the Big 12 away from Bud Walton I say only an 11-7 SEC record will get the job done(possibly only 10-8 would then do the trick cause the committee really loves non conference wins away from home).... I know 24 sounds like a high number needed, but I am saying what is needed to cash the check at the NCAA bid bank no questions asked! Does that sound roughly right to you? I think we could do it with 1 or 2 less wins, but would need some helping out from other teams.
2 SEC tourney wins would help also
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: beach bum on December 18, 2016, 06:28:52 pm
Quote from: BannerMountainMan on December 18, 2016, 06:26:12 pm
2 SEC tourney wins would help also

Oh yes, I agree. I am not really a fan of punishing or jumping a team up favorably a bunch by their conference tourney, but you are certainly are right the committee loves those extra conference tourney wins.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: ricepig on December 18, 2016, 07:54:21 pm
Quote from: beach bum on December 18, 2016, 06:22:47 pm
I am putting the magic number for Arkansas to get to the NCAA no problems/take it to the bank at 24 wins.... That sounds very high, but will be needed. Win the next two and we start 11-1. If we lose to OK State in January then we will need a 12-6 SEC record and one win at the SEC tourney for 24 total. If we beat OK State and hold two wins against the Big 12 away from Bud Walton I say only an 11-7 SEC record will get the job done(possibly only 10-8 would then do the trick cause the committee really loves non conference wins away from home).... I know 24 sounds like a high number needed, but I am saying what is needed to cash the check at the NCAA bid bank no questions asked! Does that sound roughly right to you? I think we could do it with 1 or 2 less wins, but would need some helping out from other teams.


Unfortunately, it sounds about right. I liked it when we played 2 or 3 "name" teams and won at least 2/3. Then we could go 10-8, 11-7 in conference and not sweat it out. It seems now due to our weak conference, we have to go 12-6 and kill the rest of the schedule.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on December 20, 2016, 10:26:44 am
I have only watched three games this season, but I like what I see so far. The Minnesota loss hurts but it is what it is. We will get better, but 24 wins will be tough...

As for Monk, I hate Kentucky and Cal...but Monk is a Arkansas kid and I am glad he is doing well. He chose Kentucky for obvious reasons that Arkansas could not provide. He did what was best for him and his career...
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: BannerMountainMan on December 20, 2016, 11:45:24 am
24 wins will be tough but I believe 23 will do the trick and that's counting at least 1 win in the SEC tourney. But we ought to win every home game (Florida maybe) so that's 9 and there's 3 or 4 gimme losses like Missouri and a few more(I'd hope)
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: bdubyab60 on December 20, 2016, 07:09:26 pm
Looking like a little bit of layover from Texas. But NDst plays a tough game though
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: ricepig on December 20, 2016, 08:34:40 pm
NDSU wanted to slow down the pace tonight, and force us to run some offense. Thanks to Dusty we covered the spread, lol.
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Post by: bdubyab60 on December 20, 2016, 08:40:55 pm
Yeah that was a deep three he closed it out with
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Post by: BannerMountainMan on December 22, 2016, 10:23:59 pm
Verizon was packed tonight!! Haven't ever seen it like that!!
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Post by: Lumberjackfan1978 on December 22, 2016, 10:26:01 pm
Yeah good crowd tonight in Little Rock for the Hogs
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: WPWells on December 22, 2016, 10:40:36 pm
Good win over another team who's their conference' preseason favorite
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: beach bum on December 27, 2016, 10:33:04 pm
Anyone going to be at the Florida game on Thursday?
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: WPWells on December 28, 2016, 05:41:49 pm
Hoping to catch some of it at my hotel after the Belk Bowl.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: beach bum on December 28, 2016, 05:59:12 pm
They are expecting a pretty good crowd. I heard they have been trying to get the word out about the reduced $15 tickets for this game. I hope that gets people in Bud Walton and I would love to see a wild crowd and send the Gators back to Gainesville with a loss.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: WPWells on December 28, 2016, 07:08:50 pm
They're showing the Belk Bowl on the screen for ticket holders. That's a great idea so people don't have to sacrifice watching the football game.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: ricepig on December 28, 2016, 07:10:40 pm
It shows very few tickets left, but the student sections, both upper and lower probably will be spotty.


http://ev12.evenue.net/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/SEGetEventInfo?ticketCode=GS%3AIBM%3AB16%3A12%3A&linkID=arkansas&shopperContext=&pc=&caller=&appCode=&groupCode=MBI&cgc=
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: BannerMountainMan on December 28, 2016, 08:26:56 pm
Their shouldn't be any seats left soon because that 15$ deal is great to watch both games and half-price concessions for the football game!
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: WPWells on December 28, 2016, 08:42:01 pm
Students had the opportunity to donate tickets to low-income kids if they knew they wouldn't be in town for the game. I imagine the student section will be more full than you think.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: ricepig on December 28, 2016, 08:58:35 pm
Quote from: WPWells on December 28, 2016, 08:42:01 pm
Students had the opportunity to donate tickets to low-income kids if they knew they wouldn't be in town for the game. I imagine the student section will be more full than you think.

Well, it would be the first time this year, haha.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: beach bum on December 29, 2016, 11:02:36 am
I am always on the basketball train more than the football train.... however we need the football Hogs to win today and not suck a little life out of the crowd watching the game on the big screen at Bud Walton waiting for the Florida game to start. That might make for a strange atmosphere if the football team is losing with all those people probably showing up early for the basketball game. That said, I am little worried about the bowl game. If we show up and mentally ready to play at a high level I think the basketball team gets a big win.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: BannerMountainMan on January 03, 2017, 08:04:15 pm
This game pretty much erases last game, RPI jumps back up to 29. Good win.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: mack on January 03, 2017, 08:25:13 pm
I'm a little concerned.  I saw 2-3 times that Macon ignored Dusty when he was wide open.  I hope he just missed him....
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: beach bum on January 03, 2017, 09:14:28 pm
When their back was against the wall and needed a win they got one... A loss tonight and they were staring a 0-3 start down the face. Beat Miss State two games from now and be at 2-2 in SEC play and I will be happy knowing they are giving themselves a chance at least. This team is going to need like a 4 game type win streak somewhere to get up to that 11 conference win total I think they need to give themselves an NCAA tourney spot.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: ricepig on January 03, 2017, 09:34:13 pm
Quote from: mack on January 03, 2017, 08:25:13 pm
I'm a little concerned.  I saw 2-3 times that Macon ignored Dusty when he was wide open.  I hope he just missed him....

You sound like HV with AA ignoring Hatcher except on the scripted early plays, and always looking for Morgan, lol. I didn't watch much, I watched Jonesboro win by 33 over WM.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Lumberjackfan1978 on January 03, 2017, 09:41:02 pm
Quote from: beach bum on January 03, 2017, 09:14:28 pm
When their back was against the wall and needed a win they got one... A loss tonight and they were staring a 0-3 start down the face. Beat Miss State two games from now and be at 2-2 in SEC play and I will be happy knowing they are giving themselves a chance at least. This team is going to need like a 4 game type win streak somewhere to get up to that 11 conference win total I think they need to give themselves an NCAA tourney spot.
yea glad they got the win tonight.I think you may be right that they will need at least a 3 game win streak in there somewhere to get a tourney spot
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: bdubyab60 on January 03, 2017, 09:50:46 pm
I'll take every win we can. Not easy winning on the road in the league. Especially when at one point the other team has made more freethrows than you have taken. I think we are gonna be in a lot of tight  ball games this year in league play.

Kentucky is going to be a tough test for sure. They can flat out score.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Lumberjackfan1978 on January 03, 2017, 11:13:44 pm
Yea we need every win we can get hopefully we will get enough to make it the NCAA tournament
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: BannerMountainMan on January 06, 2017, 03:25:43 pm
I'm tired of everybody dogging on Mike Anderson, it's hard to win at Arkansas no matter what, have you seen many coaches do it, NO! The only one that will be remembered is Nolans 1994, and who was apart of that.. MIKE ANDERSON! I am ready for tomorrow night, not that we will win I just love to watch Arkansas Basketball! WPS and maybe if everybody would lighten up and get behind your state each game, maybe it will be a lot more fun! 12-2 and a RPI of 29 is great!! A loss to Kentucky will do nothing but keep us where we are at and maybe make us higher!
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: SackAttack on January 06, 2017, 04:09:22 pm
Quote from: BannerMountainMan on January 06, 2017, 03:25:43 pm
I'm tired of everybody dogging on Mike Anderson, it's hard to win at Arkansas no matter what, have you seen many coaches do it, NO! The only one that will be remembered is Nolans 1994, and who was apart of that.. MIKE ANDERSON! I am ready for tomorrow night, not that we will win I just love to watch Arkansas Basketball! WPS and maybe if everybody would lighten up and get behind your state each game, maybe it will be a lot more fun! 12-2 and a RPI of 29 is great!! A loss to Kentucky will do nothing but keep us where we are at and maybe make us higher!
Uh remember a guy named Eddie Sutton he was pretty relevant at Arkansas too.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: BannerMountainMan on January 06, 2017, 04:10:40 pm
Quote from: SackAttack on January 06, 2017, 04:09:22 pm
Uh remember a guy named Eddie Sutton he was pretty relevant at Arkansas too.
and nobody outside of Arkansas talks about him right, right.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Longfellow on January 06, 2017, 08:31:10 pm
Quote from: BannerMountainMan on January 06, 2017, 03:25:43 pm
I'm tired of everybody dogging on Mike Anderson, it's hard to win at Arkansas no matter what, have you seen many coaches do it, NO! The only one that will be remembered is Nolans 1994, and who was apart of that.. MIKE ANDERSON! I am ready for tomorrow night, not that we will win I just love to watch Arkansas Basketball! WPS and maybe if everybody would lighten up and get behind your state each game, maybe it will be a lot more fun! 12-2 and a RPI of 29 is great!! A loss to Kentucky will do nothing but keep us where we are at and maybe make us higher!
It's not 1994. What Mike Anderson did as an assistant for Nolan 23 years ago isn't relevant and doesn't make him a good, exceptional, or even average coach. Arkansas will never be an elite team again until they get a coach who can put in an actual system and not that garbage that Anderson runs
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AirWarren on January 06, 2017, 08:59:55 pm
I think we should fire the entire fan base.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on January 06, 2017, 09:06:58 pm
Quote from: BannerMountainMan on January 06, 2017, 04:10:40 pm
and nobody outside of Arkansas talks about him right, right.
Mike Anderson isn't a hair on Eddie's butt... but MA is a good coach. We are doing well now and MA has had us going in the right direction. We can't blame him for Monk...Monk did what Monk needed to do. Let's see where we go from here. The Tenner win on the road was huge I think...
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: SackAttack on January 06, 2017, 10:25:14 pm
Quote from: Longfellow on January 06, 2017, 08:31:10 pm
It's not 1994. What Mike Anderson did as an assistant for Nolan 23 years ago isn't relevant and doesn't make him a good, exceptional, or even average coach. Arkansas will never be an elite team again until they get a coach who can put in an actual system and not that garbage that Anderson runs
This is pure gospel truth right here. Fastest 40 right?? Couldn't agree more
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: WPWells on January 07, 2017, 07:47:55 pm
Gonna have to beat 8 tonight
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: bdubyab60 on January 07, 2017, 08:13:31 pm
Need to knock down some shots
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: mtindian42 on January 07, 2017, 08:17:52 pm
Quote from: bdubyab60 on January 07, 2017, 08:13:31 pm
Need to knock down some shots
yalls D is good. Y'all just need someone to step up on O and y'all will be fine...
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: WPWells on January 07, 2017, 08:27:03 pm
Don't you have Ohio State to worry about?
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: mtindian42 on January 07, 2017, 08:29:21 pm
Quote from: WPWells on January 07, 2017, 08:27:03 pm
Don't you have Ohio State to worry about?
am I talking to you? Mind your own...
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: WPWells on January 07, 2017, 08:37:53 pm
Well it was clear you haven't watched the game.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: bdubyab60 on January 07, 2017, 08:51:04 pm
Need to stop Fox. 4 or 5 times he just gets it and runs down the floor and makes a play
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: mtindian42 on January 07, 2017, 08:54:11 pm
Quote from: bdubyab60 on January 07, 2017, 08:51:04 pm
Need to stop Fox. 4 or 5 times he just gets it and runs down the floor and makes a play
that and get number 3 going for y'all.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: bdubyab60 on January 07, 2017, 09:04:20 pm
Think we have more fouls than points this half
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: WPWells on January 07, 2017, 09:04:54 pm
Hannahs is too slow. He won't get going this game.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: SackAttack on January 07, 2017, 09:17:39 pm
Quote from: bdubyab60 on January 07, 2017, 08:51:04 pm
Need to stop Fox. 4 or 5 times he just gets it and runs down the floor and makes a play
How so?? We are the fastest 40 haven't you heard??
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: WPWells on January 07, 2017, 09:20:14 pm
Kentucky privilege is real.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on January 07, 2017, 09:53:31 pm
WP, the ref's did not beat Arkansas tonight. 12 McDonald's all american's did. We tried to not let Monk beat us...well he didn't. The rest of the team did. Kentucky is good, very good. We don't have one player that could start for Kentucky.  We were supposed to lose this game. Keep focused and move forward towards the dance. Try and get better every game. This team is not a top twenty five team. We have too many holes.

What does the next recruiting class look like?
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: SackAttack on January 07, 2017, 10:22:57 pm
Quote from: Coach Venny Slocombe on January 07, 2017, 09:53:31 pm
WP, the ref's did not beat Arkansas tonight. 12 McDonald's all american's did. We tried to not let Monk beat us...well he didn't. The rest of the team did. Kentucky is good, very good. We don't have one player that could start for Kentucky.  We were supposed to lose this game. Keep focused and move forward towards the dance. Try and get better every game. This team is not a top twenty five team. We have too many holes.

What does the next recruiting class look like?
Finally someone is making sense. Too many holes defensively. It won't matter if the system doesn't change. Single digit assists tonight and that stat speaks volumes to a flawed system! Careful Venny you'll receive a healthy dose of venom for spilling the truth.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Jacketman65 on January 08, 2017, 12:54:15 am
Yep, typical Arkansas/Kentucky game. Toyed with in the first half and then trucked in the second!
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: BannerMountainMan on January 08, 2017, 01:59:09 am
Quote from: Jacketman65 on January 08, 2017, 12:54:15 am
Yep, typical Arkansas/Kentucky game. Toyed with in the first half and then trucked in the second!
i know third best team in SEC ain't the best in the world but it's what we are, Kentucky had Ole Miss and Texas A&M out of the ring in the first five minutes, we stood our ground for about 28 and that's improvement!
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on January 08, 2017, 09:14:53 am
Quote from: BannerMountainMan on January 08, 2017, 01:59:09 am
i know third best team in SEC ain't the best in the world but it's what we are, Kentucky had Ole Miss and Texas A&M out of the ring in the first five minutes, we stood our ground for about 28 and that's improvement!
I was listening to ESPN the other day and they were talking SEC basketball and they said Kentucky was the best, followed by Florida and 3 through 9 were a toss up. You can't compare scores. Basketball is about match ups. We do need to position ourselves at #3 though because that will get us in the dance...I suspect we will win a couple on the road that maybe we shouldn't...but we could lose a couple at home we should win...we need to forget about Kentucky as soon as those guys got in the locker room last night...NEXT!
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: bdubyab60 on January 08, 2017, 09:30:27 am
We were playing with them until Barford gave them some motivation. Shortly after that they started attacking us on offense every possession and our own offense sputtered.

We had to have them play bad and us play a complete game. Didn't happen. I didn't expect us to win this game. We are not consistent enough and didn't have the size to hang with them.

At the end of the day Kentucky did to us what they are going to do to the rest of the SEC except maybe Florida. No sense in complaining to much just move on to the next one.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: beach bum on January 08, 2017, 10:09:05 am
I agree with Venny, we are somewhere between 3rd and 8th/9th in the SEC in which the next 15 games will determine. We can potentially sit between 12-6 and 8-10 in conference as a rough guess. Win 2/3 of the Tennessee type games and they have a shot. I am slowly getting more pessimistic the more I see and I am going to say we only go about 10-8 with a loss to Oklahoma State as well along the way. Throw in a loss in the SEC tournament and that equals 11 losses total on the season. If you lose 11 games as an SEC team you plain and simple aren't getting in the NCAA tournament even if we get to 22 or 23 wins. It will take 9 losses or less to get in so NIT here we come....
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Jacketman65 on January 09, 2017, 12:39:25 am
Everyone is talking about CBB in the football thread, well Anderson has been here longer and it is time for him to produce!  NIT is unexceptible, we should be in the big dance every year!IMBO.  No one said that Eddie Sutton could get it done, but he did!  No one said that Nolan could get it done, National Champs! MA needs to hitch it up,  he has kind of gotten a pass due to the POOR performance of the FB team!  If you listen closely you will hear the same type of excuses as the FB team!  The best was "at least we didn't let Monk beat us".  I guess we forgot about the other 4/1.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: HorseFeathers on January 09, 2017, 05:43:14 am
Quote from: Jacketman65 on January 09, 2017, 12:39:25 am
Everyone is talking about CBB in the football thread, well Anderson has been here longer and it is time for him to produce!  NIT is unexceptible, we should be in the big dance every year!IMBO.  No one said that Eddie Sutton could get it done, but he did!  No one said that Nolan could get it done, National Champs! MA needs to hitch it up,  he has kind of gotten a pass due to the POOR performance of the FB team!  If you listen closely you will hear the same type of excuses as the FB team!  The best was "at least we didn't let Monk beat us".  I guess we forgot about the other 4/1.

::) Paging arm chair athletic director to the drive through window....People are upset that they're whoppers are getting cold while your making those important decisions...

Btw I do agree....Tournament this year or bust....The s.e.c sucks in basketball, and Arkansas actually produces enough basketball talent to be competitive...Just look at the next 3 classes coming out of the state...
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: bdubyab60 on January 10, 2017, 08:53:06 pm
Inconsistent
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AirWarren on January 10, 2017, 08:59:49 pm
Very inconsistent. Scared to attack.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: SackAttack on January 10, 2017, 09:29:11 pm
Bud Walton is a morgue!! Its happened nobody cares. Bye bye Mike and take Mel with you.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: bdubyab60 on January 10, 2017, 09:51:03 pm
Crowd seems in to it to me. Just to often we quit moving the ball.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: bdubyab60 on January 10, 2017, 10:14:45 pm
Well this is an NIT team at best. We have to many line up changes where there is zero offense and defensively these 3's it seems like everyone hits them on us.

MA will be firmly on it at seasons end
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: beach bum on January 10, 2017, 10:26:23 pm
This is getting really tough to watch.... Also, my goodness look for Mississippi State in the coming years to always be fighting for 2nd place in the SEC. Those two freshmen have quite the poise and game. They don't have NBA bodies or freak athleticism so get used to seeing them make lots of 3's the next few years in this league. Plus, Howland is recruiting another good group to add to the roster next year.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: bdubyab60 on January 10, 2017, 10:32:08 pm
Yep State will be in the rise.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: SackAttack on January 10, 2017, 10:53:12 pm
And yet people think theres going to be change with our incoming recruiting class. This is a flawed system. I challenge everyone to spend a little time watching our bench. during the four minute timeout Scotty and TJ were just sitting there. Sitting there. Saying nothing. No hand clapping or butt patting. Nothing. TJ looked bored. Looks like a very very comfortable staff to me. One of many many problems.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AirWarren on January 10, 2017, 11:01:29 pm
Quote from: SackAttack on January 10, 2017, 10:53:12 pm
And yet people think theres going to be change with our incoming recruiting class. This is a flawed system. I challenge everyone to spend a little time watching our bench. during the four minute timeout Scotty and TJ were just sitting there. Sitting there. Saying nothing. No hand clapping or butt patting. Nothing. TJ looked bored. Looks like a very very comfortable staff to me. One of many many problems.

Fire em all.

Scotty is riding 94 until it can't be rode anymore.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Jacketman65 on January 11, 2017, 01:12:53 am
Quote from: BannerMountainMan on January 08, 2017, 01:59:09 am
i know third best team in SEC ain't the best in the world but it's what we are, Kentucky had Ole Miss and Texas A&M out of the ring in the first five minutes, we stood our ground for about 28 and that's improvement!
Do you have anything to say now?
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Jacketman65 on January 11, 2017, 01:25:30 am
VOMIT!!!! 
Is what it is!  I guess lets move on to track season, just can't force myself to watch anymore!
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: SackAttack on January 11, 2017, 10:16:48 am
Quote from: AirWarren on January 10, 2017, 11:01:29 pm
Fire em all.

Scotty is riding 94 until it can't be rode anymore.
Never sat on the bench and coached a game in his life until November of this year. It shows! and is a testament to Mikes philosophy that coaching doesnt matter. Second challenge-- go watch a practice then go watch Harding or Tech or UCA for that matter and tell me what you see.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Romeo on January 11, 2017, 05:45:34 pm
At this point, with likely only one ranked team left to play and a weak non-conference schedule, It would be difficult for Arkansas to make the NCAA Tournament.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: DerekOxford on January 11, 2017, 10:52:00 pm
Quote from: Romeo on January 11, 2017, 05:45:34 pm
At this point, with likely only one ranked team left to play and a weak non-conference schedule, It would be difficult for Arkansas to make the NCAA Tournament.

Only way I see it happening is going 10-4 or 11-3 in conference the rest of the way and winning at Oklahoma State. That probably gets them in.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on January 14, 2017, 08:33:11 pm
We won today...big...against Mizzou...CBB couldn't do it...pretty nice win...still in the hunt...does anyone care?...hmmmmm, I still think we can make the dance...we need to keep winning and we have to beat Florida at Florida... :)
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Lumberjackfan1978 on January 14, 2017, 09:01:07 pm
Quote from: Coach Venny Slocombe on January 14, 2017, 08:33:11 pm
We won today...big...against Mizzou...CBB couldn't do it...pretty nice win...still in the hunt...does anyone care?...hmmmmm, I still think we can make the dance...we need to keep winning and we have to beat Florida at Florida... :)
i still care we just need to win a lot more.Hopefully we can win enough to make the dance.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: DerekOxford on January 14, 2017, 09:32:06 pm
Quote from: Coach Venny Slocombe on January 14, 2017, 08:33:11 pm
We won today...big...against Mizzou...CBB couldn't do it...pretty nice win...still in the hunt...does anyone care?...hmmmmm, I still think we can make the dance...we need to keep winning and we have to beat Florida at Florida... :)

In order to make the dance, I think this is what has to happen the rest of the way:

1/17 at A&M W
1/21 LSU W
1/24 at Vandy L
1/28 at Okla St. W
2/1 Alabama W
2/4 at Mizzou W
2/7 Vandy W
2/11 at LSU W
2/15 at S. Carolina L
2/18 Ole Miss W
2/22 A&M W
2/25 at Auburn W
3/1 at Florida L
3/4 Georgia W

This scenario would involve breaking the Melvin Watkins curse (Mike has never won at Reed Arena and has had Watkins as his lead assistant since he took Mizzou gig).

It would also involve winning 5 SEC road games, which isn't out of the question but seems unlikely, if they've already lost twice at BWA.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: bdubyab60 on January 15, 2017, 08:41:36 am
Can't afford any slip ups. MA said on the radio the important thing is we got better. Did we really play better or is mizzou just that bad this year.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AirWarren on January 15, 2017, 08:45:00 am
Quote from: bdubyab60 on January 15, 2017, 08:41:36 am
Can't afford any slip ups. MA said on the radio the important thing is we got better. Did we really play better or is mizzou just that bad this year.

Combo of both. Mizzou is bad. But the hogs looked like they were having fun, which was good. I liked how they were attacking the goal. I wish they would do that more often.

For the first time, we could actually see our athleticism that people have been talking about. I don't know why we play so timid.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: ricepig on January 15, 2017, 10:24:24 am
No way we finish 11-3, 9-5 at best.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: BannerMountainMan on January 15, 2017, 11:58:33 am
Quote from: Jacketman65 on January 11, 2017, 01:12:53 am
Do you have anything to say now?
i do, since when does a team base the rest of the season on two or three games. Played bad against Miss St, they are a good team(4-0) they shot great and even if we played good they still probably would of won, it was just their night. Would hate to be a player at Arkansas and read these comments because you know they do, get behind em and finish the season strong, Joe Lunardi still has us in the tourney.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on January 15, 2017, 12:23:01 pm
Quote from: BannerMountainMan on January 15, 2017, 11:58:33 am
i do, since when does a team base the rest of the season on two or three games. Played bad against Miss St, they are a good team(4-0) they shot great and even if we played good they still probably would of won, it was just their night. Would hate to be a player at Arkansas and read these comments because you know they do, get behind em and finish the season strong, Joe Lunardi still has us in the tourney.
MA should tell them to stay off of here...dear lord go look at Hogville...lol...
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Longfellow on January 15, 2017, 12:31:17 pm
Well, Joe Lunardi probably hasn't seen the Razorbacks play. I bet he's just looking at RPI and his other advanced metrics
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: BannerMountainMan on January 15, 2017, 02:49:33 pm
Quote from: Longfellow on January 15, 2017, 12:31:17 pm
Well, Joe Lunardi probably hasn't seen the Razorbacks play. I bet he's just looking at RPI and his other advanced metrics
oh yeah let's don't bring out stats
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: bdubyab60 on January 17, 2017, 08:03:31 pm
One of the best FT shooting teams and we are throwing up bricks from the line
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: bdubyab60 on January 17, 2017, 08:08:35 pm
Showed some guys coming back from double digits twice in the game. Make some FTs and maybe we don't have sweat as bad at the end
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: BannerMountainMan on January 17, 2017, 08:10:17 pm
Huge Winn for the hogs!! I'm telling you we got the two hardest games out of the way early and we could go on a streak!
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AirWarren on January 17, 2017, 08:50:07 pm
Great win. Congrats coach MA and his hogs!
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: DerekOxford on January 17, 2017, 08:51:59 pm
Hadn't won in College Station since I was 1.5 years old. I'm 27.

And did it with getting next to nothing from Barford and Beard. There's a very real chance this team is 16-5 or 17-4 heading into February.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: bdubyab60 on January 17, 2017, 09:00:07 pm
Quote from: BannerMountainMan on January 17, 2017, 08:10:17 pm
Huge Winn for the hogs!! I'm telling you we got the two hardest games out of the way early and we could go on a streak!
Judging from this one, a streak is going to very hard to do. It's not like we played good. Just good enough to win. If we are relying on Watkins and Kingsley to knock down 3's to get us wins. All the games will be like this one
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: BannerMountainMan on January 17, 2017, 09:11:34 pm
Quote from: bdubyab60 on January 17, 2017, 09:00:07 pm
Judging from this one, a streak is going to very hard to do. It's not like we played good. Just good enough to win. If we are relying on Watkins and Kingsley to knock down 3's to get us wins. All the games will be like this one
do you know how hard it is to win games at A&M they didn't have any baskets in the last 8 minutes!! The defense stepped up!!
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: DerekOxford on January 17, 2017, 09:13:27 pm
Quote from: bdubyab60 on January 17, 2017, 09:00:07 pm
Judging from this one, a streak is going to very hard to do. It's not like we played good. Just good enough to win. If we are relying on Watkins and Kingsley to knock down 3's to get us wins. All the games will be like this one

Winning at A&M is tough. Better Hog teams than this one couldn't do it. USC is 16-3 and in a better conference and only won by two there. Their 9-8 includes losses to UCLA, Arizona and Kentucky, who are three of the best teams in America.

Don't discount this win.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: bdubyab60 on January 17, 2017, 09:28:14 pm
Quote from: DerekOxford on January 17, 2017, 09:13:27 pm
Winning at A&M is tough. Better Hog teams than this one couldn't do it. USC is 16-3 and in a better conference and only won by two there. Their 9-8 includes losses to UCLA, Arizona and Kentucky, who are three of the best teams in America.

Don't discount this win.
Im not discounting the win. It's a win. But I refuse to believe that this is going to lead to some kind of streak with the inconsistency that we play with.


It's not so much about other teams as it is about us. I'm seriously Watkins goes what 3-4 from behind the arc in a game.

It's a win though and we need everyone we can get
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: BannerMountainMan on January 17, 2017, 09:32:52 pm
I just don't get why people think this year is soo bad, three out of our four losses are against teams in the TOP 10 RPI GOSH
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: beach bum on January 17, 2017, 09:45:03 pm
It was a mixture of really good defense and some luck to see them go ice cold. Oh well, its about time these guys have the ball bounce their way and things go their way in a game. It's really vital to pull a 5-2 type stretch in these next seven games before going to South Carolina and Florida in a three game stretch. That would put us at 19-6. We would have to collapse at that point if we sat at 19-6.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: bdubyab60 on January 17, 2017, 10:04:43 pm
Quote from: BannerMountainMan on January 17, 2017, 09:32:52 pm
I just don't get why people think this year is soo bad, three out of our four losses are against teams in the TOP 10 RPI GOSH
Sometimes it's how you look doing it. When we have stepped up we have been put down. Truthfully sometimes I see better basketball played at the park in pick up games. I think that's what gets a lot of folks
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AirWarren on January 17, 2017, 10:15:53 pm
Quote from: DerekOxford on January 17, 2017, 08:51:59 pm
Hadn't won in College Station since I was 1.5 years old. I'm 27.

And did it with getting next to nothing from Barford and Beard. There's a very real chance this team is 16-5 or 17-4 heading into February.

I was 5!
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: ricepig on January 18, 2017, 07:54:35 am
Quote from: BannerMountainMan on January 17, 2017, 09:11:34 pm
do you know how hard it is to win games at A&M they didn't have any baskets in the last 8 minutes!! The defense stepped up!!
I know how hard it was for Arkansas to win at College Station, I wasn' aware aTm had some great record there.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AirWarren on January 18, 2017, 03:25:29 pm
Quote from: ricepig on January 18, 2017, 07:54:35 am
I know how hard it was for Arkansas to win at College Station, I wasn' aware aTm had some great record there.

Keep your negative attitude for Hogville please. Haha
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: ricepig on January 18, 2017, 05:10:10 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on January 18, 2017, 03:25:29 pm
Keep your negative attitude for Hogville please. Haha

I'll try......
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: BannerMountainMan on January 18, 2017, 10:34:36 pm
Hogville is soo sad, I hate people they are just complete idiots. They don't even think we will get 20 wins. They were also complaining badly of how we should've beat A&M bad on the road.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: bdubyab60 on January 19, 2017, 08:28:50 am
It is possible we might not make 20 wins. I mean we are 3-3 in league play, only one of those a double digit win and only one win over a team with a winning record. We won the games which is a positive but could have just as easily been 1-5 right now in league. I expect the close game sot continue. LSU wont be an easy win from what Ive seen, they always play us tough. It is a game we should win though.

We have no real quality wins over a P5 team except for Houston I guess. I don't give a crap what our RPI is if we get blown out every time we step in quality of opponent.

It doesn't matter how many wins we may get if we aren't competitive against the better competition. We aren't getting in the tournament that way.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: SackAttack on January 22, 2017, 07:04:44 pm
Did anybody check out our asst. coaches(and that term is used loosely) on the bench last night during timeouts?? Very energetic crew arent they??
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: beach bum on January 24, 2017, 09:49:55 pm
Holy smokes haha..... What a win! We scored 28 points in less than 6 minutes to come back and win that game....
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Lumberjackfan1978 on January 24, 2017, 09:57:23 pm
Good win for the Hogs.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: beach bum on January 24, 2017, 10:01:26 pm
I think if we beat Oklahoma State this weekend it will only take 11 conference wins and one SEC tourney win to get in.... Albeit that OK State and Texas are at the bottom of the Big 12 winning two games away from Bud Walton against the Big 12 would carry some weight when the selection committee meets in March. This Saturday will be big. Those fans in Stillwater are going to be fired up to play the Hogs since we don't see that matchup virtually ever. Ok State will want this one bad.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on January 25, 2017, 08:41:21 am
Good win...one game at a time...
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: DerekOxford on January 25, 2017, 08:44:01 pm
Quote from: beach bum on January 24, 2017, 10:01:26 pm
I think if we beat Oklahoma State this weekend it will only take 11 conference wins and one SEC tourney win to get in.... Albeit that OK State and Texas are at the bottom of the Big 12 winning two games away from Bud Walton against the Big 12 would carry some weight when the selection committee meets in March. This Saturday will be big. Those fans in Stillwater are going to be fired up to play the Hogs since we don't see that matchup virtually ever. Ok State will want this one bad.

I'm gonna be there. Gonna try and be as loud as possible for the good guys!
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Pokey03 on January 28, 2017, 03:41:19 pm
Bricks & Fouls today
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: ricepig on January 28, 2017, 04:23:08 pm
Did we send a split squad today, like in the Grapefruit league in baseball?
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: BannerMountainMan on January 28, 2017, 04:50:39 pm
One of the worst officiated games I have ever seen. 
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on January 28, 2017, 05:48:31 pm
Quote from: BannerMountainMan on January 28, 2017, 04:50:39 pm
One of the worst officiated games I have ever seen. 
OMG dude, really? We got our tails beat in every facet of the game. We DID NOT play defense or hustle and did not shoot well with the exception of a couple of players. We had a great opportunity to represent the SEC and did a poor job, very poor job. We need to just face facts, this team is not that good. We will be lucky to be a tourney team and if we do make it we will not win a game...AGAIN. We need a great recruiting class. But the officials DID NOT beat us...sheeeeezzz, why is always the officials fault?
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on January 28, 2017, 05:49:33 pm
Quote from: ricepig on January 28, 2017, 04:23:08 pm
Did we send a split squad today, like in the Grapefruit league in baseball?
lol...
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: bdubyab60 on January 28, 2017, 06:13:37 pm
Yeah that was bad. However I can see us winning 22-24 games. But I still don't think that gets us in. We have no quality wins. Any time we step up in competition we have been beaten with relative ease. Even the couple of wins we have that looked good aren't as good anymore. With the way Houston has played.

We just don't play very good basketball at all. Every once in a while you might see a glimpse of something resembling it.

Bottom line this is not a tourney team but should be. That's sometimes MA and his staff.

We have to beat FL or SC and may have to get 2 in the tourney. SEC may get only 3 teams in. I thought maybe 4 but after today not so much
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AirWarren on January 28, 2017, 07:46:49 pm
Sad.....
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on January 29, 2017, 12:03:39 pm
My thing is this...so we get in the tourney, great! But can we win at least one game? When is the last time a Razorback basketball team has won a game in the Big Dance?

Ahhhhhhh,went and looked it up. We beat Wofford...2015...
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: beach bum on January 29, 2017, 12:09:42 pm
Quote from: Coach Venny Slocombe on January 29, 2017, 12:03:39 pm
My thing is this...so we get in the tourney, great! But can we win at least one game? When is the last time a Razorback basketball team has won a game in the Big Dance?

I think we did win one with Portis and then got bounced easily by North Carolina in the round of 32 just a couple years ago, but that is a good question after that. I would say you would have to go back all the way to maybe 1999? When Derek Hood, Kareem Reid, and Pat Bradley went to the sweet 16. That just sounds awful to think how it has been that long though since we were winning consistently because someone may correct me, but I do believe it was around 1999 besides the recent win in the 1st round with Qualls and Portis. That is nearing 20 years now without consistently winning in basketball.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on January 29, 2017, 12:13:47 pm
Quote from: beach bum on January 29, 2017, 12:09:42 pm
I think we did win one with Portis and then got bounced easily by North Carolina in the round of 32 just a couple years ago, but that is a good question after that. I would say you would have to go back all the way to maybe 1999? When Derek Hood, Kareem Reid, and Pat Bradley went to the sweet 16. That just sounds awful to think how it has been that long though since we were winning consistently because someone may correct me, but I do believe it was around 1999 besides the recent win in the 1st round with Qualls and Portis. That is nearing 20 years now without consistently winning in basketball.
But, but...we got cheated...if it weren't for the officials we would be undefeated and ranked #1 in the country...a solid #1 seed for the tourney...
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Longfellow on January 29, 2017, 01:28:04 pm
Quote from: Coach Venny Slocombe on January 29, 2017, 12:13:47 pm
But, but...we got cheated...if it weren't for the officials we would be undefeated and ranked #1 in the country...a solid #1 seed for the tourney...
That's my parents excuse every night they lose
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: ricepig on January 29, 2017, 01:32:08 pm
Hey, if we get in the tournament, it's got to be considered good.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: HorseFeathers on January 29, 2017, 03:02:49 pm
Quote from: Longfellow on January 29, 2017, 01:28:04 pm
That's my parents excuse every night they lose

That's a yell county thing though
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: DerekOxford on January 29, 2017, 03:19:12 pm
It was frustrating to watch it unfold yesterday, but the key is to not let it become a trend. They've played well on the SEC road this year save for Kentucky. If they beat a hot Alabama team on Wednesday and then win very winnable road games at Mizzou and LSU and beat Vandy sandwiched in between, they're 20-5 in mid-February heading to S. Carolina.

If they find a way to win there, they're in the top 25 and have a quality win to boot.

Need to act like Stillwater never happened.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: beach bum on January 29, 2017, 06:09:58 pm
Quote from: HorseFeathers on January 29, 2017, 03:02:49 pm
That's a yell county thing though

Haha, Living there briefly those people do go a little wild for their Hogs. That is putting it nicely too. Not really saying that as a bad thing, but it was fun to see it go overboard sometimes.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: beach bum on January 29, 2017, 06:12:58 pm
Quote from: DerekOxford on January 29, 2017, 03:19:12 pm
It was frustrating to watch it unfold yesterday, but the key is to not let it become a trend. They've played well on the SEC road this year save for Kentucky. If they beat a hot Alabama team on Wednesday and then win very winnable road games at Mizzou and LSU and beat Vandy sandwiched in between, they're 20-5 in mid-February heading to S. Carolina.

If they find a way to win there, they're in the top 25 and have a quality win to boot.

Need to act like Stillwater never happened.

Oh I agree, and we must and I mean must win these next 4 games or I believe you can definitely stick the fork in the season. We must win these next two games at home and then take care of business against two very bad teams on the road. Those two teams are terrible we play on the road and losing any of these games would be a terrible loss in the eyes of the committee. Alabama is hot, but you can't have 3 conference losses at home in a so so league.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: HorseFeathers on January 29, 2017, 06:18:51 pm
Quote from: beach bum on January 29, 2017, 06:09:58 pm
Haha, Living there briefly those people do go a little wild for their Hogs. That is putting it nicely too. Not really saying that as a bad thing, but it was fun to see it go overboard sometimes.

I was meaning the blaming the refs in general 8)
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: beach bum on January 29, 2017, 06:21:14 pm
Quote from: HorseFeathers on January 29, 2017, 06:18:51 pm
I was meaning the blaming the refs in general 8)

That is true too. Somehow we couldn't avoid Dardanelle in regionals in basketball when both our programs were rolling years back. Fans being kicked out became a little too normal.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on January 29, 2017, 08:29:49 pm
I hope we win out and make the dance...I really do. I would love to see MA succeed and get us back to being a National power.

what drives me nutts is the fans who blame every loss on the officials. I despise officials as much as anyone...lol...but they seldom lose a team a game... ;)
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: beach bum on January 29, 2017, 08:37:28 pm
Quote from: Coach Venny Slocombe on January 29, 2017, 08:29:49 pm
I hope we win out and make the dance...I really do. I would love to see MA succeed and get us back to being a National power.

what drives me nutts is the fans who blame every loss on the officials. I despise officials as much as anyone...lol...but they seldom lose a team a game... ;)

I have literally seen on my social media feeds where fans have blamed 15 point basketball losses on the refs and blamed them for 3 touchdown losses in football. Yesterday, they couldn't blame them when literally we only had one guy who could consistently get a bucket for long periods throughout the game. It was just sad. We are supposed to be branded as this "run and gun" style and Oklahoma State was making us look silly in the open court on both sides of the ball. They whooped us at our own game is the thing.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: SackAttack on January 29, 2017, 08:57:28 pm
Make no mistake this loss will stick in the minds of the selection committee. Too big a train wreck to forget with a couple of wins in a down league. Spin it any way you want but hat one was devastating in the way it happened!!
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: bdubyab60 on January 30, 2017, 05:26:51 pm
Well if the tourney started today a couple of experts are saying we are in. Either a 9 or a 10 seed. I still don't see it but hose guys do. More work to do to guarantee we get in and not as much to knock us out.

A lot of folks think that since some of us think that we wont get in that we don't want to get in the tourney. Far from the truth.

But im looking at it like this since everyone keeps talking about RPI. Any team from 40-1 that we have played has beaten us. 3 of those were double digits I believe and the other two looked fairly close at the final bell but sometimes  despite being within singles digits at the final score the game was never in doubt. I didn't watch the FL game but MSU controlled us even though that ended up like 6 points. Never thought we were gonna come back and win that game, by the way they are 123 in RPI.

We are 16-5 but are just as close to being 12-8. Maybe our luck holds up and we continue to win these close games and make the tourney. But just making the tourney doesn't excuse playing poor fundamental basketball, that's the real reason we are in the position we are in. Just like the football team. Sometimes its not what you are doing but how you look doing it is important as well. Just like these teams that get inflated records and step up in competition, sooner or later you get exposed.

Being the BEST of the worst isn't best.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: SackAttack on January 30, 2017, 05:36:34 pm
Heard it on drive time sports just now so it must be true right?? We are last in the SEC in assissts per game? with essentially a 4 guard lineup at times. That is a very telling statistic if it is correct. I kinda tend to believe it! How do you get by in todays college game with no true point guard?? Poor Moses!!
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: beach bum on February 01, 2017, 07:41:40 pm
I can't believe I am saying this about this team, but this has actually been FUN to watch tonight.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AirWarren on February 01, 2017, 07:57:16 pm
Very fun game. About time.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: bdubyab60 on February 01, 2017, 09:29:32 pm
Nice to beat a team you are better than like you should. JMO. Just been feeling like we should be playing like we are closer to the top than toward the middle or bottom.

It was a good bounce back win, need to keep the momentum.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: ABC™ on February 01, 2017, 09:37:48 pm
If only they could come with that intensity and defensive pressure every game, or at least more than half the time.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on February 02, 2017, 08:56:51 am
Easy to look good and have fun when you are playing a bad team at home...let's do that when we play Florida on the road. That would be a huge win...
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: BannerMountainMan on February 02, 2017, 12:17:31 pm
Quote from: Coach Venny Slocombe on February 02, 2017, 08:56:51 am
Easy to look good and have fun when you are playing a bad team at home...let's do that when we play Florida on the road. That would be a huge win...
they just beat Georgia on the road by 20, just stop, we took their 4th spot in the conf now and prolly will be tied for third after this weekend with Florida
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on February 02, 2017, 01:20:06 pm
Quote from: BannerMountainMan on February 02, 2017, 12:17:31 pm
they just beat Georgia on the road by 20, just stop, we took their 4th spot in the conf now and prolly will be tied for third after this weekend with Florida
lol...where were at when we got obliterated against Okie State? If we get beat by Florida where will you be then? ;D
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: BannerMountainMan on February 02, 2017, 02:15:47 pm
Quote from: Coach Venny Slocombe on February 02, 2017, 01:20:06 pm
lol...where were at when we got obliterated against Okie State? If we get beat by Florida where will you be then? ;D
those games happen, I have seen so many big teams get killed this year, it happens! You can't win them all, but saying Alabama is a bad team is being unknowledgable.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: mack on February 02, 2017, 03:02:09 pm
Quote from: BannerMountainMan on February 02, 2017, 12:17:31 pm
they just beat Georgia on the road by 20, just stop, we took their 4th spot in the conf now and prolly will be tied for third after this weekend with Florida

That's just Venny bein' Venny.  He's more excited when we lose.  They are a better matchup with Georgia.  Alabamas guards don't handle the ball well.  Florida is another story.  That'll be more of a measuring stick.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: beach bum on February 02, 2017, 03:08:04 pm
Quote from: mack on February 02, 2017, 03:02:09 pm
That's just Venny bein' Venny.  He's more excited when we lose.  They are a better matchup with Georgia.  Alabamas guards don't handle the ball well.  Florida is another story.  That'll be more of a measuring stick.

I said that exact thing last night about Bama's guards. I know they will continue to sputter out of the 5 spot but I'd love to see us stay at 4 and Bama at 5 so we play them at the SEC tourney cause we would beat them again. Tennessee, Miss State, and Georgia would be tougher than Bama for us.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on February 02, 2017, 07:04:33 pm
Quote from: mack on February 02, 2017, 03:02:09 pm
That's just Venny bein' Venny.  He's more excited when we lose.  They are a better matchup with Georgia.  Alabamas guards don't handle the ball well.  Florida is another story.  That'll be more of a measuring stick.
Not excited when we lose...it ticks me off when we lose. I just want to be good again...instead of mediocre...some people like mediocre, not me. Mack, if you like being average then good for you! But not me...I want to be great and believe we should fight tooth and nail to get there... ;)
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Knickerbocker on February 04, 2017, 11:20:45 am
The Bama win was a good one but looks like we will have to beat Florida or South Carolina on the road to get in the tourney. That Ok State loss was horrible!
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: HSFBF on February 04, 2017, 01:51:47 pm
The way So. Carolina and FL are playing at home, I see no way we will win either game. Too many lapses for minutes at a time on U of A's part, and no intervention from the bench coaches at proper times and with little to no "corrective" actions.

Wish our guards could play like Hannah did couple of games ago, doing it all those last 6 minutes of the game. He was on a tear and not really attempting 3 pointers but driving and drawing fouls and hitting reverse layups and putting back rebounds, etc. Wish our TRUE designated point guards would do the same but they all want to shoot 3s, no attacking for their own rebound, get their "game point stats" at all costs and such. Too many "me" and not so many "team" goals. Doubt that will change this year. If losses to SC and FL mean no NCAA slot, then we will have to settle for an NIT bid... As a former HC did, he turned down an NIT bid because we were playing badly the last 3 weeks and did not deserve a trip.. May happen this year!

SURELY we can beat MO today on their court ... surely. If not, it will rival the horrible FB season's ending. And we still have several more weeks of BB to go. Lets place egos aside and play TEAM ball like Dusty H does.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Longfellow on February 04, 2017, 02:11:52 pm
Hannahs may play team ball, but he couldn't defend an 8th grader
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: HSFBF on February 04, 2017, 02:17:15 pm
Quote from: Longfellow on February 04, 2017, 02:11:52 pm
Hannahs may play team ball, but he couldn't defend an 8th grader
Did not suggest he was a big time defender, but that is why you have 4 OTHER guys on the floor doing their job and some of them are defenders. What we needed THAT particular night was OFFENSE, which Hannahs gave us and NOBODY else was doing that. Team ball involves those who are good at offense do their job and defenders and rebounders do their job. In some games it appears FOUR OTHER players on the court ALSO could not defend an 8th grader... Lets compare apples to apples and not to oranges.  :-*
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Truthfully on February 04, 2017, 05:13:13 pm
Hit a 3 in first 6 seconds and then 2 two point baskets in next 6 minutes! That is not going to get it done! Too much outside shooting and not contesting MO's 3 point shot.. Uggggg :-X
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Truthfully on February 04, 2017, 05:20:40 pm
Arkansas' #4 has let MO shoot 3's WITHOUT even raising his hands/arms to contest the shot. 3 made over him alone!  We can not get the ball inside and thank God Hannahs comes in and swishes one. This is an ugly game already.. Oh, there's another uncontested 3 point shot and followed by another AR turnover. No more comments from me. It would not surprise me if we lose this game. Some coach has got to step up and YELL in their faces like Nolan used to do. Down 19-10 so the ugliness continues.
Bye for today... Ugggggg ::)
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: 7AFball on February 04, 2017, 05:48:11 pm
Truthfully is so truthful... 

Turnovers, only ONE assist, referee calls in favor of MO all game, missed AR free throws, still badly shooting outside and not getting ball in side to Kingsley, not playing Hannahs that much, MO shooting FIFTY % from field ( no defense or contested shots to speak of )... Kingsley on bench now, so this is SO ugly FF posters. I don't blame Truthfully for bowing out of FF comments. Just NOTHING + to say from my perspective. Losing this game will be a stepping stone to put Anderson on the hot seat for sure and an NIT bid is not what a $1.8 million BB HC is supposed to be paid for, not an SEC caliber coach. Let's just see if AR can make another road comeback like the 3 wins they have on the road this year. But, against a horrible MO team, we should never have been behind in this game...

Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: HSFBF on February 04, 2017, 06:00:36 pm
Quote from: Longfellow on February 04, 2017, 02:11:52 pm
Hannahs may play team ball, but he couldn't defend an 8th grader
Revisit... MO shot 62% the first half. Seems to me like 9-10 U of A guys who have played can not defend an 8th grader, right? It is the HIGHEST % one half shooting an AR opponent has had in 25 years. True... No energy, poor shots and no assists to speak of and horrible free throw shooting. Couple that with the worst defense I have seen in YEARS and I smell a loss. If we win it will be another comeback on the road but against MO, we should NEVER been behind. Anderson, what's your game plan now  ;D
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Longfellow on February 04, 2017, 06:27:04 pm
Fire Mike Anderson
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: SackAttack on February 04, 2017, 07:20:25 pm
Good bye Mike. The SEC pre season conference player of the year is a screen setter in your offense. We are dead last in the nation in assists playing four guards. They defend if they feel like it because there is nothing (the bench) that holds them accountable. Your assistant coaches do nothing but sit there. Was there a reason your best player was in the game with four fouls there late in an obvious foul situation? Time to load up and head to Tulsa or Oral Roberts or Middle Tennessee. Good bye!
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: beach bum on February 04, 2017, 07:25:34 pm
I am not saying he doesn't need to be fired, but MA isn't being fired. They are probably worried these next two classes would have kids leave their commitment to Arkansas. Especially, that 2018 class. These coming classes have talent we haven't seen in a while. I hate to say it, but he isn't being fired...... However, I say fire them all. Fire Bert, Fire Anderson, Fire Jeff Long. Fire the women's coach.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AirWarren on February 04, 2017, 07:29:19 pm
Wow.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: SackAttack on February 04, 2017, 07:47:42 pm
Quote from: beach bum on February 04, 2017, 07:25:34 pm
I am not saying he doesn't need to be fired, but MA isn't being fired. They are probably worried these next two classes would have kids leave their commitment to Arkansas. Especially, that 2018 class. These coming classes have talent we haven't seen in a while. I hate to say it, but he isn't being fired...... However, I say fire them all. Fire Bert, Fire Anderson, Fire Jeff Long. Fire the women's coach.
How does a better recruiting class fix the evident problems we have? As i said you have a potential 15-16 point a game post man setting ball screens with no low post touches! Better talent doesnt mean better defense and rebounding or shot selection. And Im only arguing out of frustration from a junior high quality coaching staff!
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: beach bum on February 04, 2017, 08:23:21 pm
Quote from: SackAttack on February 04, 2017, 07:47:42 pm
How does a better recruiting class fix the evident problems we have? As i said you have a potential 15-16 point a game post man setting ball screens with no low post touches! Better talent doesnt mean better defense and rebounding or shot selection. And Im only arguing out of frustration from a junior high quality coaching staff!

I totally agree with everything you are saying, but I am just trying to get inside the head of what Jeff Long is probably thinking.... considering his thinking skills are lacking haha.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: bdubyab60 on February 04, 2017, 08:27:52 pm
Well let's get it out there. Finally beat a team that we are more talented than like we should last week then we lay this egg. While we could afford another loss, it wasn't this one. Puts us easily back out of the tourney, IMO.

Couple of things. Moses does not set good screens and he's also not a viable low post scorer. Not consistently anyways.

Some of the players we have are not the right fit for the style MA wants to play. He's unwilling to budge on this as well. A good coach can adapt the style of play to put his players in the best possible situation to succeed.

I'll give credit to Mizzou. They played a very good game and it's our job to keep them from doing that. This is a game that if you are a borderline tourney team that you CANNOT lose. Yet we did. I understand games like this happen, but they can't when you have such a small margin of error.

What ticks me off is all I hear is we had to go 7-3 the rest of the way and we are 1-1. That's crap. This loss was worth two good wins. Especially after today when teams that were in the same boat with us beat top 10 teams. On that point we have failed to beat a single team that has a top 40 RPI or is ranked. Still zero quality wins to speak of.

8 games left with pretty much two guaranteed losses, SC and FL. Then with performances like this and the consistency with digging huge holes to get out of for wins leads me to believe we will drop a couple more.

Bottom line I believe we are NIT bound. After 6 years that is unacceptable to me. I'm with Venny. I want us to be great again.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: SackAttack on February 04, 2017, 08:40:19 pm
Quote from: bdubyab60 on February 04, 2017, 08:27:52 pm
Well let's get it out there. Finally beat a team that we are more talented than like we should last week then we lay this egg. While we could afford another loss, it wasn't this one. Puts us easily back out of the tourney, IMO.

Couple of things. Moses does not set good screens and he's also not a viable low post scorer. Not consistently anyways.

Some of the players we have are not the right fit for the style MA wants to play. He's unwilling to budge on this as well. A good coach can adapt the style of play to put his players in the best possible situation to succeed.

I'll give credit to Mizzou. They played a very good game and it's our job to keep them from doing that. This is a game that if you are a borderline tourney team that you CANNOT lose. Yet we did. I understand games like this happen, but they can't when you have such a small margin of error.

What ticks me off is all I hear is we had to go 7-3 the rest of the way and we are 1-1. That's crap. This loss was worth two good wins. Especially after today when teams that were in the same boat with us beat top 10 teams. On that point we have failed to beat a single team that has a top 40 RPI or is ranked. Still zero quality wins to speak of.

8 games left with pretty much two guaranteed losses, SC and FL. Then with performances like this and the consistency with digging huge holes to get out of for wins leads me to believe we will drop a couple more.

Bottom line I believe we are NIT bound. After 6 years that is unacceptable to me. I'm with Venny. I want us to be great again.
Moses does set very soft screens and our guards do a very poor job of setting that up(coaching)! Even though he may not be a good low post scorer as a senior(coaching) the game is still played inside out. Watch every other team play and whether they score it there or not the ball is still entered in there 10-15 times a game(coaching). We are last in assists(coaching). Moses could at least be in position to rebound and clean up a few misses a game(coaching) and would most likely lead the team in assists on kickouts. Sorry to vent and I know that anybody that knows a lick about basketball knows that at least some of this is correct because its just simple basketball 101. Everybody gets it but Anderson and his staff.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on February 04, 2017, 09:32:58 pm
Arkansas, a team that is on the brink of a tourney bid...should never get beat by a 5-16 team...road or at home...inexcusable... but our average fans on here will defend MA and hope we give him another ten year extension...
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Trojanbird on February 04, 2017, 10:03:54 pm
Hogs suck as we all know!  Time to move on, and realize that there is another major university in the state that deserves some respect/support!  On another note, it was fun watching Kentucky get blown by 20.  When was the last time we have seen that?  One and dones - ha!  Good luck to the Monks. I guess horse crap is better than chicken poop!
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Trojanbird on February 04, 2017, 10:10:49 pm
MA and BB should put their homes up for sale and pack their bags! IMO. Barely average coaches at best with a below average AD!  While we are at it, girls BB coach needs to go with them!
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Truthfully on February 04, 2017, 10:36:54 pm
Well I am back after seeing the score after the game which lived up to my prediction. I cooled off for 3 1/2 hours and now came back to just say HA HA HA HA HA... Never again will I care about emotional involvement with a U of A basketball game, men OR women. This follows the "never again" promise after the disastrous football season. 

I am not alone when I say MANY other Razorback fans ( or former followers ) will drop the excitement about caring any longer for most U of A sports until Mr. Long is gone, following the boot of both major HCs in FB and BB. Enuff is enuff. Rebuilding will take a few years but that is better than going thru the same ole stuff year after year with the same HCs. We ain't an Alabama, Florida, Tennessee, Auburn, So. Carolina, and never will be. No 5* recruit wants to come here and not be able to show his talent and get a high professional drafting spot later on. Fans are SICK of mediocrity in the 2 major sports that bring in so much money and RF supplement cash for Long's decisions. Old timer supporters are dropping like flies and newcomers will tire quickly of spending good earned $$ for RF parking and U of A tickets to see average teams. No more madness and throwing things at my TV from watching non energetic athletes get great scholarships and give so little back to the University. So few try hard and are "team players"..  Times are changing and NOW is the time to change a bit more, Mr. Long or at least the U of A Board needs to take action. David Prior and John Tyson had things right but were in the minority unfortunately.
;D HA HA HA  and no more madness from me following under achieving coaches and players.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Coach Venny Slocombe on February 04, 2017, 11:15:23 pm
Quote from: Trojanbird on February 04, 2017, 10:03:54 pm
Hogs suck as we all know!  Time to move on, and realize that there is another major university in the state that deserves some respect/support!  On another note, it was fun watching Kentucky get blown by 20.  When was the last time we have seen that?  One and dones - ha!  Good luck to the Monks. I guess horse crap is better than chicken poop!
Yep and the sad part is Monk is 100% in a better position than if he had signed at Arkansas with a miserable team and coach...
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AirWarren on February 04, 2017, 11:36:00 pm
Quote from: Truthfully on February 04, 2017, 10:36:54 pm
Well I am back after seeing the score after the game which lived up to my prediction. I cooled off for 3 1/2 hours and now came back to just say HA HA HA HA HA... Never again will I care about emotional involvement with a U of A basketball game, men OR women. This follows the "never again" promise after the disastrous football season. 

I am not alone when I say MANY other Razorback fans ( or former followers ) will drop the excitement about caring any longer for most U of A sports until Mr. Long is gone, following the boot of both major HCs in FB and BB. Enuff is enuff. Rebuilding will take a few years but that is better than going thru the same ole stuff year after year with the same HCs. We ain't an Alabama, Florida, Tennessee, Auburn, So. Carolina, and never will be. No 5* recruit wants to come here and not be able to show his talent and get a high professional drafting spot later on. Fans are SICK of mediocrity in the 2 major sports that bring in so much money and RF supplement cash for Long's decisions. Old timer supporters are dropping like flies and newcomers will tire quickly of spending good earned $$ for RF parking and U of A tickets to see average teams. No more madness and throwing things at my TV from watching non energetic athletes get great scholarships and give so little back to the University. So few try hard and are "team players"..  Times are changing and NOW is the time to change a bit more, Mr. Long or at least the U of A Board needs to take action. David Prior and John Tyson had things right but were in the minority unfortunately.
;D HA HA HA  and no more madness from me following under achieving coaches and players.

Welcome to apathy. It's a wonderful thing.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: bdubyab60 on February 05, 2017, 02:26:26 pm
Quote from: Coach Venny Slocombe on February 04, 2017, 11:15:23 pm
Yep and the sad part is Monk is 100% in a better position than if he had signed at Arkansas with a miserable team and coach...
I won't blame MA for missing on Monk. He had an uphill climb on that the entire time. Momma didn't like MA, Kentucky was favored the entire time despite what many said. This was going back to freshman year.

Now is he in a better position at Kentucky. Hard to say no ain't it
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: beach bum on February 07, 2017, 07:55:52 pm
we are down 25-4 just 9 minutes into the Vanderbilt game at HOME.... Fire them all.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Trojanbird on February 07, 2017, 08:39:23 pm
Quote from: bdubyab60 on February 05, 2017, 02:26:26 pm
I won't blame MA for missing on Monk. He had an uphill climb on that the entire time. Momma didn't like MA, Kentucky was favored the entire time despite what many said. This was going back to freshman year.

Now is he in a better position at Kentucky. Hard to say no ain't it
yes, but where is his brother in all of this!  Any favors involved?
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: HorseFeathers on February 07, 2017, 08:51:59 pm
Quote from: beach bum on February 07, 2017, 07:55:52 pm
we are down 25-4 just 9 minutes into the Vanderbilt game at HOME.... Fire them all.

All in favor of dropping Arkansas athletics say aye!
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Romeo on February 07, 2017, 09:10:42 pm
Hogville is going to implode tonight.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Longfellow on February 07, 2017, 09:27:05 pm
Aye
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: HSFBF on February 07, 2017, 09:48:52 pm
I think Anderson got up and took his jacket off late in the game, as the announcers eluded to, based on the seat no longer being hot but it was BURNING DOWN on the spot. What a lapse in coaching and not being able to bring a team together and use talent, what there is, to accentuate a better attempt at winning. Kingsley has given up, going from Player of Year in the SEC to not even be named, unless in "others listed" column. Everyone shows signs of wanting the season over with. Hope NO NIT is in the picture. Greatest boasting you have is that you were #65 in the nation, IF you win the NIT.  Sickening 4++++.
Anderson is SO unemotional and the other coaches are worse and never get hyped up it seems. Agree with some FF posters that say ALL of them need to go. Better to lose by trying hard and not by just being beaten by a worse team MANY times recently. This is a true crash of a team and likely the worst I have witnessed in a Razorback team in all my 40 years of following the team..  :(    Sad sad times on the hill in BB and FB.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Trojanbird on February 07, 2017, 10:24:43 pm
Aye!
Discusting at best!
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Lumberjackfan1978 on February 07, 2017, 10:37:34 pm
Nothing left to discuss
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Made on February 07, 2017, 11:01:35 pm
Not sure why you guys are so worked up....Everyone knows that Arkansas is a football school
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Jacketman65 on February 07, 2017, 11:06:54 pm
MA does not have the respect of his players, He is too ho hum and all is ok, "we are getting better"  Back in my day, if you under preformed as a team, you really didn't want to go to practice the next day or Monday if it were football.  As most of you older guys know, there would have some body fluids lost, expelled, peed, pooped or what ever!
I would be willing to bet that after Kentucky went down by 20 the other day - Wasn't a pleasant  practice!  Cal got his guys refocused very quickly, unlike the MA street ballers!
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: papaeagle on February 07, 2017, 11:25:28 pm
Quote from: Jacketman65 on February 07, 2017, 11:06:54 pm
MA does not have the respect of his players, He is too ho hum and all is ok, "we are getting better"  Back in my day, if you under preformed as a team, you really didn't want to go to practice the next day or Monday if it were football.  As most of you older guys know, there would have some body fluids lost, expelled, peed, pooped or what ever!
I would be willing to bet that after Kentucky went down by 20 the other day - Wasn't a pleasant  practice!  Cal got his guys refocused very quickly, unlike the MA street ballers!
1+ and so true, just said in yet another valid way of what's going on this year. Another second half of a season where we will be MUCH worse and have a worse record than the first half and may be close to .500 ball before it's over. Playing E. Lansing State or Podunk Tech or Harrison Univ or Pee Ridge College proves nothing and does not let you know "where you stand as a team" when the SEC starts. Just keeps you from having a losing team each year, and last year I think the W-L columns were equal at about 16.  :-\  Speak up Mr. Long and give YOUR assessment of what it takes to say a collapse has happened .... again.
:(
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: SackAttack on February 07, 2017, 11:43:11 pm
I tried in my own way several weeks ago to allude to what was going to happen in a humorous way. See the locked Mike and Melvin thread. I have a source on the Hill that tells me the assisstant coaching staff is in total disarray since Scotty was promoted. No experience, no teaching abilities. TJ doesnt know where he fits in and the players just blow him off anytime he tries to interject anything. Melvin is the laziest coach in the universe just content to get paid and ride Mikes coattail. Caught much grief for it  but I was only speaking the truth from a comedy standpoint because right now if you aint laughing then you gotta be crying. See theyve got to the part of the season where it takes the entire staff working together to put together game plans deliver scouting reports and instill chemistry within the team. I encouraged everyone if you could to go take in a practice and see how Thurman has no business being on a college staff, TJ is like a deaf mute, and Melvin might as well be at home taking a nap. It wont happen but if Im Jeff Long Im telling Mike you want to keep your job go out and hire a real staff and get some fresh ideas and make a clean break from 1994. Wont happen but therein lies your problem!
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Jacketman65 on February 07, 2017, 11:47:11 pm
Mike Anderson is not capable of hiring a real staff!  IMO
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Trojanbird on February 08, 2017, 12:13:06 am
Quote from: SackAttack on February 07, 2017, 11:43:11 pm
I tried in my own way several weeks ago to allude to what was going to happen in a humorous way. See the locked Mike and Melvin thread. I have a source on the Hill that tells me the assisstant coaching staff is in total disarray since Scotty was promoted. No experience, no teaching abilities. TJ doesnt know where he fits in and the players just blow him off anytime he tries to interject anything. Melvin is the laziest coach in the universe just content to get paid and ride Mikes coattail. Caught much grief for it  but I was only speaking the truth from a comedy standpoint because right now if you aint laughing then you gotta be crying. See theyve got to the part of the season where it takes the entire staff working together to put together game plans deliver scouting reports and instill chemistry within the team. I encouraged everyone if you could to go take in a practice and see how Thurman has no business being on a college staff, TJ is like a deaf mute, and Melvin might as well be at home taking a nap. It wont happen but if Im Jeff Long Im telling Mike you want to keep your job go out and hire a real staff and get some fresh ideas and make a clean break from 1994. Wont happen but therein lies your problem!
Quote from: Jacketman65 on February 07, 2017, 11:47:11 pm
Mike Anderson is not capable of hiring a real staff!  IMO
Quote from: papaeagle on February 07, 2017, 11:25:28 pm
1+ and so true, just said in yet another valid way of what's going on this year. Another second half of a season where we will be MUCH worse and have a worse record than the first half and may be close to .500 ball before it's over. Playing E. Lansing State or Podunk Tech or Harrison Univ or Pee Ridge College proves nothing and does not let you know "where you stand as a team" when the SEC starts. Just keeps you from having a losing team each year, and last year I think the W-L columns were equal at about 16.  :-\  Speak up Mr. Long and give YOUR assessment of what it takes to say a collapse has happened .... again.
:(
I totally agree with all!
It is time to disinfect the hill!
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AirWarren on February 08, 2017, 06:25:08 am
Quote from: Made on February 07, 2017, 11:01:35 pm
Not sure why you guys are so worked up....Everyone knows that Arkansas is a football school

Arkansas is a graduate and go work at Walmart school.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AirWarren on February 08, 2017, 06:25:50 am
Quote from: Lumberjackfan1978 on February 07, 2017, 10:37:34 pm
Nothing left to discuss

Nope. Didn't watch it.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Made on February 08, 2017, 08:06:16 am
Quote from: AirWarren on February 08, 2017, 06:25:08 am
Arkansas is a graduate and go work at Walmart school.
but football....
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Longfellow on February 08, 2017, 09:01:40 am
If Jeff Long was smart, he would be pimping the track program all day every day. Get them a multimillion dollar facility. They deserve it
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: 7AFball on February 08, 2017, 09:32:58 am
Jeff Long... If you have not seen enough the past 3 weeks to know that the coaching staff for men's BB is horrible and ineffective, then you had better turn around and watch what the U of A Board of Trustees will be doing to you for DOING NOTHING to rectify the situation. Act NOW Jeff, NOW!!!   :o

You should approve or scrutinize ANY assistant coach appointment by a HC in FB or BB before you let it just ride through the system. LOOK at resume's, talk to the HC and make suggestions and express your observations and reservations. DO YOUR JOB ! ! ! !   >:(
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: beach bum on February 08, 2017, 10:04:32 am
Quote from: AirWarren on February 08, 2017, 06:25:50 am
Nope. Didn't watch it.

Luckily Bama vs. South Carolina went into 4 OT's so the first half didn't even get on TV... All you could see was the score tracker in the upper right screen of the OT game keep going up and up for Vandy! You didn't even have to get creative in your mind trying to piece together 25-4 at one point.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: beach bum on February 08, 2017, 10:05:36 am
Quote from: AirWarren on February 08, 2017, 06:25:08 am
Arkansas is a graduate and go work at Walmart school.

Sadly this is accurate...
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: SUGARTOWN on February 08, 2017, 10:22:45 am
I don't think Mike will get fired this year. Should he? Yes, if we have a plan moving forward, which I'm sure we don't. Personally, I know Mike is a good guy, but that's not winning us any ball games.

We have enough talent on this team to win a couple NCAA tourney games, but not with this coaching staff. They have no direction or motivation. I may be the last one to finally come around and say fire him, but it's time IMO. The Ok St debacle, the Mizzou and Vandy embarrassments have finally done it for me.

Yes, I know we have some good recruits lined up the next few years. But so what? Would they get us back to the Final Four? Not with this coaching staff. Our assistants do absolutely nothing during the game. With the right hire we may can keep those recruits anyway.

Who's the right hire? Not sure, but I sure would love to see Fred Hoiberg in Fayetteville. His tenure in Chicago appears about over and he was a great college coach at Iowa St.

That being said, I feel like this will Mike's "get rid of your assistants" offseason in hopes of improvement next year, which won't happen unless we completely change our style (which we won't). The "Fastest 40" style can't work anymore. Fundamentals need to be integral in your program. We are sorely lacking in some of those.

I've watched about 10 minutes total of the last 2 games. It's too depressing to see that talent wasted.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: beach bum on February 08, 2017, 10:41:31 am
Quote from: SUGARTOWN on February 08, 2017, 10:22:45 am
I don't think Mike will get fired this year. Should he? Yes, if we have a plan moving forward, which I'm sure we don't. Personally, I know Mike is a good guy, but that's not winning us any ball games.

We have enough talent on this team to win a couple NCAA tourney games, but not with this coaching staff. They have no direction or motivation. I may be the last one to finally come around and say fire him, but it's time IMO. The Ok St debacle, the Mizzou and Vandy embarrassments have finally done it for me.

Yes, I know we have some good recruits lined up the next few years. But so what? Would they get us back to the Final Four? Not with this coaching staff. Our assistants do absolutely nothing during the game. With the right hire we may can keep those recruits anyway.

Who's the right hire? Not sure, but I sure would love to see Fred Hoiberg in Fayetteville. His tenure in Chicago appears about over and he was a great college coach at Iowa St.

That being said, I feel like this will Mike's "get rid of your assistants" offseason in hopes of improvement next year, which won't happen unless we completely change our style (which we won't). The "Fastest 40" style can't work anymore. Fundamentals need to be integral in your program. We are sorely lacking in some of those.

I've watched about 10 minutes total of the last 2 games. It's too depressing to see that talent wasted.

Well said and thought out.... Pretty much summed it up perfectly. I feel the same way with MA. I really wanted him to succeed cause he is such a class guy but these results are becoming depressing to watch. Hoiberg could be a realistic option cause he has big time Iowa roots and NWA is not far away.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Romeo on February 08, 2017, 10:45:29 am
I don't think there's another football/basketball coaching duo in the country that gets paid so much (Bret Bielema $4.1 million, Mike Anderson $2.4 million) but gives such mediocre results.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Truthfully on February 08, 2017, 01:01:42 pm
Quote from: Trojanbird on February 08, 2017, 12:13:06 am
I totally agree with all!
It is time to disinfect the hill!
1+ sir.. Disinfect is a different angle I had not thought of!  ;D
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Truthfully on February 08, 2017, 01:16:11 pm
Quote from: SUGARTOWN on February 08, 2017, 10:22:45 am
I don't think Mike will get fired this year. Should he? Yes, if we have a plan moving forward, which I'm sure we don't. Personally, I know Mike is a good guy, but that's not winning us any ball games.

We have enough talent on this team to win a couple NCAA tourney games, but not with this coaching staff. They have no direction or motivation. I may be the last one to finally come around and say fire him, but it's time IMO. The Ok St debacle, the Mizzou and Vandy embarrassments have finally done it for me.

Yes, I know we have some good recruits lined up the next few years. But so what? Would they get us back to the Final Four? Not with this coaching staff. Our assistants do absolutely nothing during the game. With the right hire we may can keep those recruits anyway.

Who's the right hire? Not sure, but I sure would love to see Fred Hoiberg in Fayetteville. His tenure in Chicago appears about over and he was a great college coach at Iowa St.

That being said, I feel like this will Mike's "get rid of your assistants" offseason in hopes of improvement next year, which won't happen unless we completely change our style (which we won't). The "Fastest 40" style can't work anymore. Fundamentals need to be integral in your program. We are sorely lacking in some of those.

I've watched about 10 minutes total of the last 2 games. It's too depressing to see that talent wasted.
Great assessment Sugartown. You hit on 2-3 definite points that need addressing ( why not a month ago? ) and now we are confronted with a horrible feeling on behalf of our Seniors Hannahs and our disheartened Kingsley who seems to have given up on a 'stellar' season that he thought would happen and why he did not go pro last year. He actually will go lower in the draft in my opinion for being used inappropriately by screening out and playing 15 feet away from the basket and not putting back missed shots and rebounding inside UNDER the basket. He has got to feel unsupported by the point guards and the "me" guys. Macon and Beard were horrible last night, look at their stats. Beard " 0 for unteen shots" and Macon like 3 of 14 or so.. Uggggly!
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: ricepig on February 08, 2017, 05:04:12 pm
Quote from: SUGARTOWN on February 08, 2017, 10:22:45 am
I don't think Mike will get fired this year. Should he? Yes, if we have a plan moving forward, which I'm sure we don't. Personally, I know Mike is a good guy, but that's not winning us any ball games.

We have enough talent on this team to win a couple NCAA tourney games, but not with this coaching staff. They have no direction or motivation. I may be the last one to finally come around and say fire him, but it's time IMO. The Ok St debacle, the Mizzou and Vandy embarrassments have finally done it for me.

Yes, I know we have some good recruits lined up the next few years. But so what? Would they get us back to the Final Four? Not with this coaching staff. Our assistants do absolutely nothing during the game. With the right hire we may can keep those recruits anyway.

Who's the right hire? Not sure, but I sure would love to see Fred Hoiberg in Fayetteville. His tenure in Chicago appears about over and he was a great college coach at Iowa St.

That being said, I feel like this will Mike's "get rid of your assistants" offseason in hopes of improvement next year, which won't happen unless we completely change our style (which we won't). The "Fastest 40" style can't work anymore. Fundamentals need to be integral in your program. We are sorely lacking in some of those.

I've watched about 10 minutes total of the last 2 games. It's too depressing to see that talent wasted.

Your first sentence is correct, unless the team completely craps the bed in the last 7-8 games. MA isn't going to change his style, be it 10 years out of date, but that's his prerogative. I think there will be a head coaching change at Arkansas this year, but it's the women's coach. Look for Dykes to slide over to the RF for the remainder of his contract, he'll be way over paid for the #2 job, but they'll get something count of his salary. I guess we'll see if his "Be Arkansas" means as much while asking for money. And yes Vinney, just my opinions on this.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Romeo on February 08, 2017, 09:15:09 pm
The fact that Jimmy Dykes gets paid $500,000 to coach a non-revenue sport that doesn't average over 1,000 fans a game is astounding.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: zebradynasty on February 09, 2017, 09:42:04 am
I feel bad for Mike and really want him to do good. I do believe he has been given a fair shake. On one hand overall the program is better than what it was when he started. On the other it has a ways to go to return to those glory years and that why he was hired to do return us to those glory years. He took a gamble on a class of all JUCO's. I don't think he was wrong to recruit them. Just that JUCO vs SEC is a world of difference and these kids are adjusting. They were improving then just seemed to hit a wall. Meanwhile there is no plan "B" these JUCO players are all he's got and he must roll with them. Mikes biggest error is that he is too stubborn. This team would play much better defensively if they would play a more conventional, fundamentally sound defense. Trapping out in the middle of the court with short guards with short arms is a big mistake. Against well coached teams relying on them to turn it over or not see the open man is too risky. You certainly can't depend on them to miss open 3-point shots! Notice how everyone we play no matter how well or not well they shot 3's they ALWAYS seem to shoot better against us! Now if we had a bunch of long armed 6-4, 6-5 guards and several long armed 6-8, 6-9 forwards Mike system would work. This teams doesn't have either and is not the most athletic team.

Barring a total collapse I think he'll be given another year. Or unless Long has lined up a proven winner to replace him. Firing is not simple. One has to look at the optics. Mike has another solid recruiting class coming. Not saying any of them would ask to be released if Mike is fired but the coaching turnover here will be used against us in future recruiting. I am sure people will downplay it but the fact the Arkansas would have fired 3 black coaches will definitely be used against. Now we can put a positive spin on it and say well we are at least hiring black coaches. Unfortunately, in todays world no one hardly looks at the positive but dwells on the negative. I hope he can turn this season around but unless he's willing to change just a little....   
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: papaeagle on February 09, 2017, 10:00:36 am
Well said zebradynasty. Covers a lot of what we have been saying and in a concise manner. 1+

Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Jacketman65 on February 09, 2017, 10:05:38 am
Z, for some reason I knew that you would turn it into a white coach/black coach issue.  Shame on you!  The only issue I see is that we need a coach that can coach winning basketball be it black, white, yellow or green.  Most have moved well beyond the race issue.  You should as well.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: SackAttack on February 09, 2017, 10:06:36 am
Quote from: zebradynasty on February 09, 2017, 09:42:04 am
I feel bad for Mike and really want him to do good. I do believe he has been given a fair shake. On one hand overall the program is better than what it was when he started. On the other it has a ways to go to return to those glory years and that why he was hired to do return us to those glory years. He took a gamble on a class of all JUCO's. I don't think he was wrong to recruit them. Just that JUCO vs SEC is a world of difference and these kids are adjusting. They were improving then just seemed to hit a wall. Meanwhile there is no plan "B" these JUCO players are all he's got and he must roll with them. Mikes biggest error is that he is too stubborn. This team would play much better defensively if they would play a more conventional, fundamentally sound defense. Trapping out in the middle of the court with short guards with short arms is a big mistake. Against well coached teams relying on them to turn it over or not see the open man is too risky. You certainly can't depend on them to miss open 3-point shots! Notice how everyone we play no matter how well or not well they shot 3's they ALWAYS seem to shoot better against us! Now if we had a bunch of long armed 6-4, 6-5 guards and several long armed 6-8, 6-9 forwards Mike system would work. This teams doesn't have either and is not the most athletic team.

Barring a total collapse I think he'll be given another year. Or unless Long has lined up a proven winner to replace him. Firing is not simple. One has to look at the optics. Mike has another solid recruiting class coming. Not saying any of them would ask to be released if Mike is fired but the coaching turnover here will be used against us in future recruiting. I am sure people will downplay it but the fact the Arkansas would have fired 3 black coaches will definitely be used against. Now we can put a positive spin on it and say well we are at least hiring black coaches. Unfortunately, in todays world no one hardly looks at the positive but dwells on the negative. I hope he can turn this season around but unless he's willing to change just a little....
He isnt willing to chancge because his basketball IQ isnt broad enough to instill anything else philosophy wise into his program. The problem lies mainly within his coaching staff. I honestly cant tell you what they do. I almost laughed out loud the other night when Mike called that last timeout with under a minute to play down 17 and the camera caught TJ trying to hand Mike the MARKER BOARD. Mike waved it off and TJ stepped back a couple of steps and cowered down like he been slapped by an abusive parent. Its just sad how little that staff is involved. Speaking up about things wouldnt do any good because one of them tried and he got shown the door. The one with enough insight to say hey what we are doing isnt working anymore and maybe we need to begin the process of changing how we view things was told he was too negative. Maybe being positive is just sitting their holding a chair down saying nothing doing nothing ala Thurman Cleveland and Watkins! Clean house and Ill get back on board!
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: zebradynasty on February 09, 2017, 11:29:17 am
Quote from: Jacketman65 on February 09, 2017, 10:05:38 am
Z, for some reason I knew that you would turn it into a white coach/black coach issue.  Shame on you!  The only issue I see is that we need a coach that can coach winning basketball be it black, white, yellow or green.  Most have moved well beyond the race issue.  You should as well.

STHUP!! If you think that in the world of recruiting that recruiters wont point out to potential black recruits that Arkansas has fired every black coach its hired (assuming they fired Mike) then you must be on a respirator because you're too stupid to breath on your own! The FIRST sentence I said Mike has been given a fair shot. When the recruiter is sitting down with a players family....they are NOT going say Mike was given a fair shot. It's simply naïve to think that the state of Arkansas reputation in regards to it's relationship with minorities is no longer a factor and nobody brings it up in recruiting. I KNOW that it does.

I don't know who you know and vice versa but I would bet the farm that I know more blacks than you. The ones I know are not moving on because they believe the race issue doesn't exist anymore they've are moved on because you either get it or your don't. REPEAT: You either get it or you don't.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: zebradynasty on February 09, 2017, 11:44:18 am
Quote from: SackAttack on February 09, 2017, 10:06:36 am
He isnt willing to chancge because his basketball IQ isnt broad enough to instill anything else philosophy wise into his program. The problem lies mainly within his coaching staff. I honestly cant tell you what they do. I almost laughed out loud the other night when Mike called that last timeout with under a minute to play down 17 and the camera caught TJ trying to hand Mike the MARKER BOARD. Mike waved it off and TJ stepped back a couple of steps and cowered down like he been slapped by an abusive parent. Its just sad how little that staff is involved. Speaking up about things wouldnt do any good because one of them tried and he got shown the door. The one with enough insight to say hey what we are doing isnt working anymore and maybe we need to begin the process of changing how we view things was told he was too negative. Maybe being positive is just sitting their holding a chair down saying nothing doing nothing ala Thurman Cleveland and Watkins! Clean house and Ill get back on board!

Couple of things here the idea that Mike don't know basketball is crazy! Has nothing to do with his basketball IQ. He has a system and he runs it. I only question the wisdom of running a system that you don't have the players to run it. Second, a lot coaches don't allow or limit what asst. can say in the timeouts. I can assure you they are involved in practice. It would be chaos if a coach is talking and then assistants talk and players talk. During timeouts one person needs to be talking and everyone else listening. You don't have time to coach by committee. Third, I know TJ meant well but WTH kinda play are we gonna run down by 17 with under a minute to play? That had nothing to do with Mike being overbearing. Just the team and coaching staff embarrassed for playing so poorly in front of home fans and TJ was just in shock.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: HSFBF on February 09, 2017, 12:23:57 pm
I just do not see a lot of "team" players on this year's team, mixed up a lot with JC transfers etc. Takes a year at least for them to blend in and learn a system, especially one that is supposed to compete in the SEC.

Too many "point guards" who do not drive the lane, get their own rebound of a missed shot, do not pass off to a 6'11" center named Moses under the basket and do not try to find an open "true" 3 point shooter. Most of our point guards will shoot the 3 as if THEY are the best on the team at doing so. And a jacked up 3 that's missed with Moses still "screening" 15 feet from the basket will not get rebounded or stuffed back by an aggressive forward. Hannahs 5 minute powerhouse play against Vandy at Vandy was due to his driving, rebounding and dishing off and stealing the ball, NOT shooting all 3 pointers. The coaches SHOULD have noticed this and practiced it. Maybe they did, but in the heat of the moment, the guards just "do their thing" and Anderson does NOT get in their face during a game like Nolan did.... and Nolan DID get the players' attentions, before/during/after games... Players dictate what is done now more than what the coach wants them to do. THAT has got to change.

Sit a good player on the bench! Don't start a good player! Take a good player out immediately when he "does his thing".. That kind of coaching DOES rub off on a player. Too much going on that is not solid basketball principal and not team oriented. I personally do not think the NCAA tournament is possible this year and do not feel the NIT is a thing to brag about. Remember a few years ago with Stan Heath at the helm when he DECLINED an NIT bid because we had a horrible last 3 weeks on the regular season, were not playing well at all, were tired of the season grind and why go and just lose another first round game?? If you do not have a chance to win it all and just will get an added LOSS, then don't do even the NIT thing. JMHO.
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Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Romeo on February 09, 2017, 12:30:11 pm
I would have liked to seen Jabril Durham play with this years team. He really evolved as a point guard last season and was a major part in Moses Kingsley's improvement. The team misses his ball handling ability.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: SackAttack on February 09, 2017, 01:42:15 pm
Quote from: zebradynasty on February 09, 2017, 11:44:18 am
Couple of things here the idea that Mike don't know basketball is crazy! Has nothing to do with his basketball IQ. He has a system and he runs it. I only question the wisdom of running a system that you don't have the players to run it. Second, a lot coaches don't allow or limit what asst. can say in the timeouts. I can assure you they are involved in practice. It would be chaos if a coach is talking and then assistants talk and players talk. During timeouts one person needs to be talking and everyone else listening. You don't have time to coach by committee. Third, I know TJ meant well but WTH kinda play are we gonna run down by 17 with under a minute to play? That had nothing to do with Mike being overbearing. Just the team and coaching staff embarrassed for playing so poorly in front of home fans and TJ was just in shock.
First of all Zebra Im not going to argue the point because we all know you have enough detractors as it is. Have you been to practice because I have? Not impressed at all but I played for two of the best so maybe Im a little jaded. The assistants do little besides rebound and talk. Little teaching going on and if youve been and truly understand the game youd see that. What is taught isnt followed up on in games so there you have player buy-in and accountability which goes back to the assistant coach input. There isnt any because Mike is too ironheaded in his loyalty to his"system" which we all know isnt his system at all. That "system" went out 10-12 years ago and may not ever return ala the wishbone in football. I agree you need one voice during games but youd think the assistants could at least be somewhat enthusiastic  and intense. I hope we can all agree that good coaches adapt and adjust to the talent THEY recruit and not blame or wait on better talent to arrive. I guess what you are saying is wait on next year as thats what everyone was saying a year ago and it hasnt happened and newsflash it wont next year either. Mike needs some changes starting within his staff! Get a couple of real assistants -let the nephew schedule flights and charter buses, let the 1994 hero handle the program PR and well just let the best friend Melvin go back to D2 where he belongs and maybe the ship will right itself. But right now the way things sit the ship is sinking and that Mike needs to man up and say my fault which he hasnt done! Id feel better if he would if hes capable!
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: zebradynasty on February 09, 2017, 02:08:34 pm
Quote from: SackAttack on February 09, 2017, 01:42:15 pm
First of all Zebra Im not going to argue the point because we all know you have enough detractors as it is. Have you been to practice because I have? Not impressed at all but I played for two of the best so maybe Im a little jaded. The assistants do little besides rebound and talk. Little teaching going on and if youve been and truly understand the game youd see that. What is taught isnt followed up on in games so there you have player buy-in and accountability which goes back to the assistant coach input. There isnt any because Mike is too ironheaded in his loyalty to his"system" which we all know isnt his system at all. That "system" went out 10-12 years ago and may not ever return ala the wishbone in football. I agree you need one voice during games but youd think the assistants could at least be somewhat enthusiastic  and intense. I hope we can all agree that good coaches adapt and adjust to the talent THEY recruit and not blame or wait on better talent to arrive. I guess what you are saying is wait on next year as thats what everyone was saying a year ago and it hasnt happened and newsflash it wont next year either. Mike needs some changes starting within his staff! Get a couple of real assistants -let the nephew schedule flights and charter buses, let the 1994 hero handle the program PR and well just let the best friend Melvin go back to D2 where he belongs and maybe the ship will right itself. But right now the way things sit the ship is sinking and that Mike needs to man up and say my fault which he hasnt done! Id feel better if he would if hes capable!

Dude don't let my so called, "detractors" stop you from having a healthy discussion about our opinions. I assure you that I wont"! ;)

Not sure I agree with what you said. I don't see how the asst are not buying in to the system when they played under the system....that's the reason they were brought in ??? Personally, I never played for a coach that allowed his asst to coach the team during a game. So maybe I'm not qualified to speak about this asst taking over during timeouts. Our asst. gave encouragement mostly during the game and in practice ran us more than the head coach. What you describe I've seen up close and personal a AAU style coaching.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: SackAttack on February 09, 2017, 02:40:02 pm
Wasnt talking about Asst coach buy-in I was talking about player buy-in and the asst role in practice to see that goal achieved. If you see coaches being enthusiastic during games and specifically timeouts then mine and your definition of enthusiasm is different. I see guys standing around with their hands in their pockets and not even any non-verbal communication! Maybe I just expect more enthusiasm when you getting your rearend handed to you from a staff that probably makes a combined 4.5 million a year. Many more ways to be involved than just standing there looking lost which is what we have now. Hey if Mike wants to do it all then so be it but hes proven that he cant with this team. Maybe hes had some where he could but not this bunch of me first guys that HE recruited.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: zebradynasty on February 09, 2017, 02:55:03 pm
Quote from: SackAttack on February 09, 2017, 02:40:02 pm
Wasnt talking about Asst coach buy-in I was talking about player buy-in and the asst role in practice to see that goal achieved. If you see coaches being enthusiastic during games and specifically timeouts then mine and your definition of enthusiasm is different. I see guys standing around with their hands in their pockets and not even any non-verbal communication! Maybe I just expect more enthusiasm when you getting your rearend handed to you from a staff that probably makes a combined 4.5 million a year. Many more ways to be involved than just standing there looking lost which is what we have now. Hey if Mike wants to do it all then so be it but hes proven that he cant with this team. Maybe hes had some where he could but not this bunch of me first guys that HE recruited.

I get that...but you can't be something your not either. None of his assistants have what I call a strong overpowereing personality. Good guys but they are kinda laid back. Scotty heckuva of a competitor, TJ, Mayberry...all these guys were intense players but not much of a rah rah type. TJ is about as close as it gets.

*Note Mayberry is not an assistant
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: SackAttack on February 09, 2017, 03:26:36 pm
Quote from: zebradynasty on February 09, 2017, 02:55:03 pm
I get that...but you can't be something your not either. None of his assistants have what I call a strong overpowereing personality. Good guys but they are kinda laid back. Scotty heckuva of a competitor, TJ, Mayberry...all these guys were intense players but not much of a rah rah type. TJ is about as close as it gets.

*Note Mayberry is not an assistant
So if you were the coach wouldnt you have one of the assistants as a bit of a rah rah type. I bet if you broke down the roles and personalities of coaching staffs of all the top major programs you d have a guy that fits that bill. Youd have a guy that is probably a great teacher of the fundamental parts of the game, probably have a "bad cop" and that could be the head coach, a "good' cop to round out your staff. This isnt meant to be all-inclusive but you get the point. What we have is a staff that has the appearances of having nothing to contribute and with 8-9 thousand empty seats and another 3 thousand leaving before the game is over that isnt a good thing! The make-up of the staff is all wrong when compared to the other programs. If Mike is going to continue he has got to take a long hard look in the mirror and do some real evaluation and make some tough calls. Ive said it a thousand times ---better players is not going to fix this.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: mack on February 09, 2017, 03:40:28 pm
Quote from: zebradynasty on February 09, 2017, 11:29:17 am
STHUP!! If you think that in the world of recruiting that recruiters wont point out to potential black recruits that Arkansas has fired every black coach its hired (assuming they fired Mike) then you must be on a respirator because you're too stupid to breath on your own! The FIRST sentence I said Mike has been given a fair shot. When the recruiter is sitting down with a players family....they are NOT going say Mike was given a fair shot. It's simply naïve to think that the state of Arkansas reputation in regards to it's relationship with minorities is no longer a factor and nobody brings it up in recruiting. I KNOW that it does.

I don't know who you know and vice versa but I would bet the farm that I know more blacks than you. The ones I know are not moving on because they believe the race issue doesn't exist anymore they've are moved on because you either get it or your don't. REPEAT: You either get it or you don't.

Anybody that doesn't think many players that MA recruited won't follow him if he's fired are wrong.  He has two great classes coming in, if he stays.  He should get one more year.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: zebradynasty on February 09, 2017, 03:45:15 pm
Quote from: SackAttack on February 09, 2017, 03:26:36 pm
So if you were the coach wouldnt you have one of the assistants as a bit of a rah rah type. I bet if you broke down the roles and personalities of coaching staffs of all the top major programs you d have a guy that fits that bill. Youd have a guy that is probably a great teacher of the fundamental parts of the game, probably have a "bad cop" and that could be the head coach, a "good' cop to round out your staff. This isnt meant to be all-inclusive but you get the point. What we have is a staff that has the appearances of having nothing to contribute and with 8-9 thousand empty seats and another 3 thousand leaving before the game is over that isnt a good thing! The make-up of the staff is all wrong when compared to the other programs. If Mike is going to continue he has got to take a long hard look in the mirror and do some real evaluation and make some tough calls. Ive said it a thousand times ---better players is not going to fix this.

Yeah but if that's not your personality kids can see it and tell it's fake trust me. I know based upon some of the crazy stuff these kids do nowdays you think it would easy to pass as some real live fire breathing motivator best thing to do is keep it real with them.

But I hear you I don't think the current staff has what you are looking for in that area.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: OB11 on February 09, 2017, 03:56:04 pm
Quote from: zebradynasty on February 09, 2017, 03:45:15 pm
Yeah but if that's not your personality kids can see it and tell it's fake trust me. I know based upon some of the crazy stuff these kids do nowdays you think it would easy to pass as some real live fire breathing motivator best thing to do is keep it real with them.

But I hear you I don't think the current staff has what you are looking for in that area.

Absolutely.  Kids don't respond to anything unless they know you are being genuine.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: fastdrop on February 09, 2017, 04:20:15 pm
It was really, really, really stupid that people thought bringing back Anderson was bringing back Nolan. Only one Nolan Richardson................................................
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: SackAttack on February 09, 2017, 04:20:31 pm
Quote from: OB11 on February 09, 2017, 03:56:04 pm
Absolutely.  Kids don't respond to anything unless they know you are being genuine.
That is my point hire some genuine guys that possess those qualities I mentioned and things improve immediately. Those guys we have is what they are problem is there is just too many of the same type to have a great staff! One simple question and all it requires is a YES or NO answer. Do we have a great well rounded basketball coaching staff at the UofA. YES or NO if you can!!
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: ricepig on February 09, 2017, 07:21:16 pm
Anderson will be back, if he agrees to make some changes to the staff. I suspect Melvin will move on/retire now that Manny will be graduating. Of course, this is subject to winning the majority of the games left in the regular season.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: fastdrop on February 09, 2017, 08:11:15 pm
Anderson loves his job. Might as well keep him a few years and see what 2018 brings. As long as Cal is coaching Kentucky I doubt any changes really makes that much difference for the Hogs.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: SackAttack on February 09, 2017, 08:29:11 pm
Quote from: fastdrop on February 09, 2017, 08:11:15 pm
Anderson loves his job. Might as well keep him a few years and see what 2018 brings. As long as Cal is coaching Kentucky I doubt any changes really makes that much difference for the Hogs.
Now there is some real perspective for you .Lets dont can our underachieving over paid washed up coach because we cant beat Kentucky as long as Cal is there.  ::) ::)
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: DerekOxford on February 09, 2017, 08:31:26 pm
Quote from: fastdrop on February 09, 2017, 04:20:15 pm
It was really, really, really stupid that people thought bringing back Anderson was bringing back Nolan. Only one Nolan Richardson................................................

I don't think everyone thought bringing back Mike was bringing back Nolan. But I think people had a feeling that he would bring some of that magic back and while it wasn't going to be as good as that '89-96 run, that the team would turn into a consistent top 25 team and make the NCAA Tournament 4 out of 6 years, instead of 1 or 2 in 6.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Lumberjackfan1978 on February 09, 2017, 10:53:54 pm
Mike won everywhere he's been I thought he would win here to it hasn't happened yet done know if it will happen but I think he will be back next year.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: fastdrop on February 10, 2017, 08:03:38 am
Quote from: DerekOxford on February 09, 2017, 08:31:26 pm
I don't think everyone thought bringing back Mike was bringing back Nolan. But I think people had a feeling that he would bring some of that magic back and while it wasn't going to be as good as that '89-96 run, that the team would turn into a consistent top 25 team and make the NCAA Tournament 4 out of 6 years, instead of 1 or 2 in 6.
HUH... Everybody thought 40 min. of heck was back. Top 10 every year. Final 4 every other year. National Championships were back. They were not thinking Eddie Sutton years............................................

Anderson is a good coach. Just not Nolan - Nolan was SPECIAL. But I digress.... I have not watched a college basketball game in 2 years. I am still waiting for the second coming of Calipari to Memphis.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: HSFBF on February 10, 2017, 09:03:16 am
I am taking a step back concerning Anderson. He won 30+ games at Missouri in his 2nd or 3rd year there I think. Anyway, it shows what you can do with talent and proved he could coach that talent.

In looking back, the past couple of "recruiting classes" here at the U of A, there was a BIG mistake 2 years ago when 4 players left for NBA or transferred and Anderson decided on 2 SENIOR transfers from nobody DI schools and thought their 6'9 or 6'10 stature would help .. Neither had proved themselves at lesser schools, so they were not effective here at all, but Anderson KNEW we were losing 3 VERY good players that year. He did not recruit.

Flash forward to this year. Last year he KNEW he had to recruit and selected a lot of unproven guys, shorter guards and guys who wanted to put their name on the map immediately by playing "me" ball. This year is what you get for another recruiting blunder in the minds of many Razorback fans.  So, Anderson can coach and has proved that, BUT you must recruit the RIGHT players, check into their past history more, how they worked at another smaller college, how they did in high school and if they were a "team" player. A fellow named Monk fit the bill and right at Mike's back door. Could not convince him to stay in Arkansas but likely could have IF the U of A had a top 10-15 team for a couple of years .... it didn't happen.

Bottom line, wins help recruiting and the right recruits helps winning. So far in the past 2 years blunders have been made. Maybe the assistant coaches "helping" in recruiting for Mike, who can't do it all, did NOT come across well to the players or families. Maybe it was the same coaches we see now who just sit on the bench and show a lackluster attitude and use their "past" accolades as a recruiting tool? It has NOT worked. The "for sure" thing is that Mike or no Mike, at least 2 assistants need to be replaced immediately at season's end. We need to KEEP the good recruits coming that DO like MA and not lose them due to a very lackluster, downward spiral year.  :-[
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: smallybells on February 10, 2017, 10:42:59 am
Quote from: HSFBF on February 10, 2017, 09:03:16 am
by playing "me" ball.

+1 -And playing "me ball" against a remotely sound D1 team will get you beat 9 out of 10 times.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: fbhound on February 10, 2017, 12:39:15 pm
Yes agree with HSFBF and a 1+.... So true about bad recruiting past 2 years, knowing something had to be done and perhaps not enuff assistants with savvy to sway the player's opinion to play at Arkansas. A good record and NCAA appearances, a top 25 team and 1st to 3rd in SEC West would speak for itself. Without that you MUST have personable coaches from the first visit or contact.

I heard at the bank from a person who heard from a friend at the post office who spoke to a friend at the grocery store who said he had 'inside' information from a person close to the situation at the Razorback Foundation and that Mike Anderson and same assistants would be back next year. That COULD mean the entire crew will be reassigned to the RF and will be calling donors??? Who knows..... LOL LOL

Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Truthfully on February 11, 2017, 08:00:06 am
Well, I will just leave it to the U of A Board of Regents and Jeff Long and the Raz Foundation new President to do the right thing in BB and FB. If they don't feel the pressure by now, then the programs will  continue to go  downhill until the seats are empty, apathy sets in with all former fans and no more NCAA or bowl games. Time for all of us on FF to sail wherever the boat takes us and realize we do not have a say so. Thanks for the usual banter back and forth, but this gal has more important things in life to do.  :(
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: ricepig on February 11, 2017, 09:45:29 am
Quote from: Truthfully on February 11, 2017, 08:00:06 am
Well, I will just leave it to the U of A Board of Regents and Jeff Long and the Raz Foundation new President to do the right thing in BB and FB. If they don't feel the pressure by now, then the programs will  continue to go  downhill until the seats are empty, apathy sets in with all former fans and no more NCAA or bowl games. Time for all of us on FF to sail wherever the boat takes us and realize we do not have a say so. Thanks for the usual banter back and forth, but this gal has more important things in life to do.  :(

Board of Trustees.    ;D
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AirWarren on February 11, 2017, 11:28:25 am
Quote from: Truthfully on February 11, 2017, 08:00:06 am
Well, I will just leave it to the U of A Board of Regents and Jeff Long and the Raz Foundation new President to do the right thing in BB and FB. If they don't feel the pressure by now, then the programs will  continue to go  downhill until the seats are empty, apathy sets in with all former fans and no more NCAA or bowl games. Time for all of us on FF to sail wherever the boat takes us and realize we do not have a say so. Thanks for the usual banter back and forth, but this gal has more important things in life to do.  :(

The sail is set to apathy.

Middle of the pack for 32 years in April for me. Don't see much changing.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Romeo on February 11, 2017, 12:24:27 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on February 11, 2017, 11:28:25 am
The sail is set to apathy.

Middle of the pack for 32 years in April for me. Don't see much changing.

Except 1989-1996 were the glory years in basketball.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AirWarren on February 11, 2017, 03:07:01 pm
Quote from: Romeo on February 11, 2017, 12:24:27 pm
Except 1989-1996 were the glory years in basketball.

I was actually referring to Arkansas Razorback athletics as a whole.

Used to love watching the hogs from that time period. I remember my dad picking me up from Eastside one day and going home and watching march Madness one year. Hogs were rolling. Great memories.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: RATTLER43 on February 11, 2017, 03:37:18 pm
Quote from: Romeo on February 11, 2017, 12:24:27 pm
Except 1989-1996 were the glory years in basketball.

77-96 were all glory years.  I thought it would always be that way. 
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: 7AFball on February 11, 2017, 06:38:54 pm
I am becoming like a few other FF posters on THIS particular thread. Not worth daily worrying about BB or FB. You can quit the Foundation and ticket program or whatever suits an individuals inner feelings. To each his own on as to what is best for their fan interest and spare money to donate and commitment to going to all the games and travel and motels, etc etc. It is what it is!  ;) 

Now, I will watch the LSU game tonight for a while for at the first signs of poor, "me" attitude play and lack of defense and rebounding and driving the lanes, etc. I have buttons on my TV remote that allows changing  channels or turning off the TV and smile as I do.  ;D
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Longfellow on February 11, 2017, 08:19:56 pm
Just saw that they let a guard from LSU grab 11 boards in the first half
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: beach bum on February 11, 2017, 08:33:32 pm
Quote from: Longfellow on February 11, 2017, 08:19:56 pm
Just saw that they let a guard from LSU grab 11 boards in the first half

This team has obviously quit.... They are down 9 at half to a team that is on a 10 game losing streak. I say who cares if they even come back and win by a couple points. This is terrible...
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AirWarren on February 11, 2017, 08:39:08 pm
It is what it is.

I'm more excited to see who transfers after the season.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: beach bum on February 11, 2017, 08:44:53 pm
I do imagine we will probably see one transfer...
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AirWarren on February 11, 2017, 10:16:21 pm
We won. Praise God.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: RATTLER43 on February 12, 2017, 12:59:03 pm
Quote from: RATTLER43 on February 11, 2017, 03:37:18 pm


77-96 were all glory years.  I thought it would always be that way. 

But I will always be a Hog fan.  Even during mediocre runs. 
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Lumberjackfan1978 on February 12, 2017, 10:37:10 pm
Same here always be a Razorback
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: DerekOxford on February 12, 2017, 10:55:12 pm
With the weak bubble, I think 4-2 or 5-1 down the stretch would get the Hogs in. Anything they do in Nashville would just bolster their seeding.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: SUGARTOWN on February 13, 2017, 08:53:50 am
Quote from: mack on February 09, 2017, 03:40:28 pm
Anybody that doesn't think many players that MA recruited won't follow him if he's fired are wrong.  He has two great classes coming in, if he stays.  He should get one more year.

Follow him where? I doubt he would get another power 5 job.

This whole "he's got great classes coming in the next few years so we should keep him" talk is ridiculous. First, none of those guys 2-3 years away have signed, no guarantee they're coming here anyway. Second, who's to say the new coach couldn't get those guys to stay, or get some other players just as good? Third, what is giving him one more year going to prove? We're supposed to wait another 2-3 years until all of these players get here just to make the tourney? Sorry, I like Mike, but 1 NCAA tourney in 6 years (I'm assuming we aren't getting in this year) ain't cutting it for me. We have the talent to be at least #3 in the SEC this year and win a couple games in the NCAA Tourney with proper coaching, but that's not happening.

BTW, I don't think he'll get fired after this season, but I really don't know why Long is waiting. It's time to move on.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: bdubyab60 on February 13, 2017, 09:26:56 am
Quote from: DerekOxford on February 12, 2017, 10:55:12 pm
With the weak bubble, I think 4-2 or 5-1 down the stretch would get the Hogs in. Anything they do in Nashville would just bolster their seeding.
Not happening. 3-3 is the more likely outcome. Unlikely that if we start off slow against SC like we have in every game here lately that we don't get our brains beat in. Wouldn't be surprised if we drop another at home as well.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: VHSCoach2 on February 13, 2017, 10:54:49 am
Joe Lunardi currently has the Hogs as one of his "Last Four In" teams in the bracket he released this morning.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: ricepig on February 13, 2017, 12:23:49 pm
Quote from: SUGARTOWN on February 13, 2017, 08:53:50 am
Follow him where? I doubt he would get another power 5 job.

This whole "he's got great classes coming in the next few years so we should keep him" talk is ridiculous. First, none of those guys 2-3 years away have signed, no guarantee they're coming here anyway. Second, who's to say the new coach couldn't get those guys to stay, or get some other players just as good? Third, what is giving him one more year going to prove? We're supposed to wait another 2-3 years until all of these players get here just to make the tourney? Sorry, I like Mike, but 1 NCAA tourney in 6 years (I'm assuming we aren't getting in this year) ain't cutting it for me. We have the talent to be at least #3 in the SEC this year and win a couple games in the NCAA Tourney with proper coaching, but that's not happening.

BTW, I don't think he'll get fired after this season, but I really don't know why Long is waiting. It's time to move on.

Well, a P5 job in basketball doesn't mean that much, think Gonzaga or Villanova. However, I don't see a top of the line school hiring him either. As far as the recruits, they've stated they wish to play together, so who would take all of them? Also, several are big Hog fans, probably more so than MA fans. I agree, unless we go 2-4 for the regular season and one and done in the SECT, he's coming back.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: bdubyab60 on February 13, 2017, 12:56:48 pm
Quote from: VHSCoach2 on February 13, 2017, 10:54:49 am
Joe Lunardi currently has the Hogs as one of his "Last Four In" teams in the bracket he released this morning.
And another "expert" has out. The committee are the folks that matter
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: VHSCoach2 on February 14, 2017, 10:09:51 am
Quote from: bdubyab60 on February 13, 2017, 12:56:48 pm
And another "expert" has out. The committee are the folks that matter

I know.  However, the most teams Lunardi has ever missed in his final bracket before the actual bracket is released by the committee is three, so if the Hogs are in his final bracket in a month, we have a good chance of making it.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: bdubyab60 on February 14, 2017, 10:36:52 am
Quote from: VHSCoach2 on February 14, 2017, 10:09:51 am
I know.  However, the most teams Lunardi has ever missed in his final bracket before the actual bracket is released by the committee is three, so if the Hogs are in his final bracket in a month, we have a good chance of making it.
Im betting we aren't in this bracket in a month. 2 games against two teams that are definitely better than us left on the road. Slow starts against those teams and we get crushed. Then 4 games that can go either way. Im not expecting us to beat SC but would like to play them tough. Getting blown out will hurt worse than just losing.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: HSFBF on February 14, 2017, 03:47:29 pm
Quote from: bdubyab60 on February 14, 2017, 10:36:52 am
2 games against two teams that are definitely better than us left on the road. Slow starts against those teams and we get crushed. Then 4 games that can go either way. Im not expecting us to beat SC but would like to play them tough. Getting blown out will hurt worse than just losing.
I so agree. Lose in a close game to SC AT SC, probably not drop in NCAA consideration. Lose BIG as against OK State or MO, then we will DEFINITELY be in the NIT at best.  :-\  TOMORROW night will tell us a LOT ...
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: fbhound on February 15, 2017, 02:00:24 pm
Tonight will tell us a LOT for sure. Either we will play team ball and win by a few points or play the "me" game and lose by 20+ points, not good for RPI score. Must win one of the final two away games and all of the home games. I predict a 3-3 record and 21 wins. A strong SEC tournament with 2 wins might get us in also, IF we go 3-3 in final 6 games before the SEC tourney..
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: bdubyab60 on February 15, 2017, 02:23:47 pm
3-3 with a home loss and we will have to win the SECT. With what we have seen to this point 2-4 to 4-2 could be expected.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: bdubyab60 on February 15, 2017, 06:25:02 pm
Where's that start been. Good half of ball. A win here makes up for a few things
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AirWarren on February 15, 2017, 06:52:27 pm
Playing tough. Don't know if we can finish though
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: bdubyab60 on February 15, 2017, 07:33:36 pm
Huge win
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AT on February 15, 2017, 07:33:52 pm
Biggest shot for Mike Anderson's career might be Manny banking it in with like 0.5 seconds left on the shotclock
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: fbhound on February 15, 2017, 07:40:32 pm
One of our biggest wins in the past 4 years, when it counted. Attention NCAA selection committee, big road win over a top 25 team with 20 wins to their credit. A better starting 5 tonight and good substitutions and called time outs.. Ole Miss next at home and we need to win ALL 4 home games to get a good SEC seed and an NCAA bid...
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: bdubyab60 on February 15, 2017, 08:10:07 pm
We definitely can't turn around and drop a couple head scratchers
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: papaeagle on February 15, 2017, 08:23:49 pm
Quote from: bdubyab60 on February 15, 2017, 08:10:07 pm
We definitely can't turn around and drop a couple head scratchers
That is the coaches' responsibilities to keep them 'on track' at this point, not to assume that the players have the ability to stay focused. They have to avoid distractions and be reminded that a LOT is at stake at this point and to NOT let all their hard work in practices and games go to waste this late in the season. Now is the time to show the fans what the team is made of and leave a good legacy for this year. Good game "team".. Good coaching Anderson....  :)
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AirWarren on February 15, 2017, 09:49:47 pm
Huge win. Wow.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Lumberjackfan1978 on February 15, 2017, 11:49:27 pm
Big win for the Hogs.Now keep it going
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: mack on February 16, 2017, 10:56:32 am
The bandwagon is going to need new shocks from some of y'all jumping on and off so much....
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AirWarren on February 16, 2017, 11:15:25 am
Quote from: mack on February 16, 2017, 10:56:32 am
The bandwagon is going to need new shocks from some of y'all jumping on and off so much....

Average fan. Happy with a win. Sad when they lose.

No extra passion needed.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: zebradynasty on February 16, 2017, 11:50:10 am
Quote from: mack on February 16, 2017, 10:56:32 am
The bandwagon is going to need new shocks from some of y'all jumping on and off so much....

Yep! I liked this team at the beginning of the year and I still like them. Even though they are Jekyll and Hyde. I expected that because mixing the best JUCO players in country and putting them on one team and say "LET'S PLAY TEAM BALL" ain't easy! In fact most coaches would fail or better yet never would have tried. Of course part of that is because of some poor recruiting left holes so big we had to sign them, but Mike still deserves credit for it working.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: beach bum on February 16, 2017, 04:32:27 pm
I am not getting excited cause we can easily blow one of our last 3 home games against average teams. We have already proven we can do that...
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Lumberjackfan1978 on February 16, 2017, 06:21:24 pm
Quote from: beach bum on February 16, 2017, 04:32:27 pm
I am not getting excited cause we can easily blow one of our last 3 home games against average teams. We have already proven we can do that...
yep we've been good at that
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: bdubyab60 on February 17, 2017, 06:59:32 am
And this isn't a bandwagon. It's darn roller coaster.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: SackAttack on February 17, 2017, 03:22:23 pm
Quote from: zebradynasty on February 16, 2017, 11:50:10 am
Yep! I liked this team at the beginning of the year and I still like them. Even though they are Jekyll and Hyde. I expected that because mixing the best JUCO players in country and putting them on one team and say "LET'S PLAY TEAM BALL" ain't easy! In fact most coaches would fail or better yet never would have tried. Of course part of that is because of some poor recruiting left holes so big we had to sign them, but Mike still deserves credit for it working.
So who is to blame for the poor recruiting and player evaluations that left the gaping holes?
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AirWarren on February 17, 2017, 03:39:37 pm
Quote from: SackAttack on February 17, 2017, 03:22:23 pm
So who is to blame for the poor recruiting and player evaluations that left the gaping holes?

President Bush.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: ricepig on February 17, 2017, 04:11:35 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on February 17, 2017, 03:39:37 pm
President Bush.

Which one?
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: bdubyab60 on February 17, 2017, 06:54:52 pm
Quote from: ricepig on February 17, 2017, 04:11:35 pm
Which one?
Is guess the younger one. But he tried to fix that and put in an EO. But Obama sent funny money to hill and recreated the gap.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AirWarren on February 17, 2017, 08:19:11 pm
Quote from: ricepig on February 17, 2017, 04:11:35 pm
Which one?

Any conservative.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: ricepig on February 17, 2017, 08:52:31 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on February 17, 2017, 08:19:11 pm
Any conservative.

Ah, Barbara...
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AirWarren on February 17, 2017, 09:07:34 pm
Quote from: ricepig on February 17, 2017, 08:52:31 pm
Ah, Barbara...

Katrina was her fault.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: beach bum on February 17, 2017, 09:48:17 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on February 17, 2017, 03:39:37 pm
President Bush.

lmbo....That is how those arguments used to go back in the day. This is a stroll down FF memory lane.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AirWarren on February 17, 2017, 10:03:19 pm
Quote from: beach bum on February 17, 2017, 09:48:17 pm
lmbo....That is how those arguments used to go back in the day. This is a stroll down FF memory lane.

The "politics board"


Gone. But certainly forgotten.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: zebradynasty on February 17, 2017, 11:11:17 pm
Quote from: SackAttack on February 17, 2017, 03:22:23 pm
So who is to blame for the poor recruiting and player evaluations that left the gaping holes?

Mike same as EVERY coach that has ever coached basketball at Fayettville. Just not a place that will consistently attract top talent every year. There will always be holes sometimes they'll get bigger if players transfer, quit or go pro.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: BannerMountainMan on February 18, 2017, 12:32:55 am
Quote from: zebradynasty on February 17, 2017, 11:11:17 pm
Mike same as EVERY coach that has ever coached basketball at Fayettville. Just not a place that will consistently attract top talent every year. There will always be holes sometimes they'll get bigger if players transfer, quit or go pro.
your exactly right.. and that goes for all of the SEC except Kentucky and Florida, Florida is a hotspot and Kentucky just has Cal, it's overall just not a good basketball conference..
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: DerekOxford on February 18, 2017, 07:56:53 am
Need a big crowd tonight and the Hogs need to WIN the game with it.

Hogs haven't won a game in front of a crowd of over 18,000 since the LSU game in 2014 when they brought back the Final Four teams. It's time to show up and show out.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: bdubyab60 on February 18, 2017, 07:58:51 am
OM has been playing well I'm expecting a tough game.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: bdubyab60 on February 18, 2017, 08:08:35 am
Quote from: BannerMountainMan on February 18, 2017, 12:32:55 am
your exactly right.. and that goes for all of the SEC except Kentucky and Florida, Florida is a hotspot and Kentucky just has Cal, it's overall just not a good basketball conference..
Im not sure that Florida reloads like Kentucky does. But I would say that those schools expect those players to leave. Cal knows how many one and dones he has.

But there is no reason the should not be able to keep a roster of 7-8 deep SEC caliber players on a regular basis. Then not be forced to fill 7-8 spots in one year with transfers jucos. We are a good enough to program to get good players. Now there is nothing wrong with getting jucos if those are the players we are wanting.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: ricepig on February 18, 2017, 08:33:31 am
Quote from: DerekOxford on February 18, 2017, 07:56:53 am
Need a big crowd tonight and the Hogs need to WIN the game with it.

Hogs haven't won a game in front of a crowd of over 18,000 since the LSU game in 2014 when they brought back the Final Four teams. It's time to show up and show out.

It'll have to be a decent walk up crowd from the baseball game to accomplish that, lots of upper level tickets two days ago. And of course, the students overflowing to the upper deck.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: beach bum on February 18, 2017, 12:58:50 pm
A must win at 5 today! This next two are must wins to reach that much better looking 10-5 SEC record. I have no earthly idea how an average team like Ole Miss has had this much success at Bud Walton, but they are 5-1 in our building the last six times we have faced them at the Bud.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Truthfully on February 18, 2017, 03:04:46 pm
Quote from: beach bum on February 18, 2017, 12:58:50 pm
A must win at 5 today! This next two are must wins to reach that much better looking 10-5 SEC record. I have no earthly idea how an average team like Ole Miss has had this much success at Bud Walton, but they are 5-1 in our building the last six times we have faced them at the Bud.
Well their crowds at BWA when playing Ole Miss have not been that great, mainly with us having an average team in recent years ... This year we can still be way above average with some home victories and it will take a LARGE 16,000 -18,000 plus crowd to intimidate Ole Miss. A large fan base will determine if the U of A gets into the NCAA T... Win all home games and we are "in" for sure, even with a Florida loss.
:-\
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: bdubyab60 on February 18, 2017, 06:14:31 pm
Macon feeling it
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AirWarren on February 18, 2017, 06:54:05 pm
Putting the hurt on em.

Love seeing Bobby portis on the sideline showing pride.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AirWarren on February 18, 2017, 06:56:25 pm
This is how we expected this team to play.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: beach bum on February 18, 2017, 07:39:56 pm
Get a win Tuesday now and we really would have to blow things at that point....
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Lumberjackfan1978 on February 18, 2017, 08:27:39 pm
Good win for the hogs.playing good right now.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AirWarren on February 18, 2017, 09:01:54 pm
TAMU. Toss up
Auburn. Win
Florida. Loss.
UGA. Win.

Possible finish of:
23-8. Wins against TAMU, auburn, UGA
22-9. Wins against auburn and UGA
20-11. All losses.
21-10. One win.
24-7. Final four game sweep.

Be nice to be 24-7 heading into the SEC tourney.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: ricepig on February 18, 2017, 09:31:03 pm
South Carolina going down to Candy they seem to have hit the wall.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: bdubyab60 on February 19, 2017, 08:28:50 am
Could possibly move up to the 3 seed in conference depending on how things play out.

If we can just keep this effort for the rest of the season
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: BannerMountainMan on February 19, 2017, 10:04:22 am
Quote from: bdubyab60 on February 19, 2017, 08:28:50 am
Could possibly move up to the 3 seed in conference depending on how things play out.

If we can just keep this effort for the rest of the season
if we win Wednesday and SCar loses to Florida then we tied and we have the tie breaker
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: LRRandy on February 19, 2017, 01:14:53 pm
Quote from: Lumberjackfan1978 on February 18, 2017, 08:27:39 pm
Good win for the hogs.playing good right now.
they sure looked like a tourney team these last few games.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: beach bum on February 20, 2017, 06:45:00 pm
Bracketology was updated today by Joe Lunardi and he has us at a 9 seed.... I hope we finish strong and get up to a 7 seed or even end up a 10 or 11 seed before we were in that 8/9 game. 10 and 11 seeds have history having going further than the 8/9 who then plays the 1 seed.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AirWarren on February 22, 2017, 07:59:06 pm
Welcome to the program, manny.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: fbhound on February 22, 2017, 08:24:44 pm
Ho Hum... Not clicking that well on all cylinders. Guards too slow the last 8 minutes. Moses NOT able to compete with the three 6'10" guys of A&M. Hannah seems "off" tonight. All in all, this close at half-time means we are in trouble before a quite, unenergetic home crowd. Come on Hog fans!!
The first 5-6 minutes of second half will set the tone for us hopefully. Gotta be aggressive!!! HERE is where coaching kicks in at half-time in the locker room... We shall see!
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: beach bum on February 22, 2017, 09:21:07 pm
Barford sure is one of those guys I wouldn't be able to stand if he played for another team... but man am I glad he is on our team. He plays with an edge for sure.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AirWarren on February 22, 2017, 09:22:44 pm
Quote from: beach bum on February 22, 2017, 09:21:07 pm
Barford sure is one of those guys I wouldn't be able to stand if he played for another team... but man am I glad he is on our team. He plays with an edge for sure.

We need that edge.

We need more kids like him on the football team.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: beach bum on February 22, 2017, 09:27:15 pm
They threw up a stat of how bad we outscore people in the 2nd half compared to the football team. It is night and day. And I really think next year since Hannahs graduates I can see Macon and Barford getting just the green light to do what they want. If they both improved their jumper over the off season they could be a scary duo next year.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AirWarren on February 22, 2017, 09:29:56 pm
21-7 (10-5)

Can't ask for much more this time of year.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: bdubyab60 on February 22, 2017, 09:32:05 pm
A good win. Let's keep rolling
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AirWarren on February 22, 2017, 09:32:27 pm
Quote from: beach bum on February 22, 2017, 09:27:15 pm
They threw up a stat of how bad we outscore people in the 2nd half compared to the football team. It is night and day. And I really think next year since Hannahs graduates I can see Macon and Barford getting just the green light to do what they want. If they both improved their jumper over the off season they could be a scary duo next year.

Along with the next recruiting class, we MIGHT be a dangerous team.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: beach bum on February 22, 2017, 09:34:51 pm
Win 2 of the next 3 and we are in no matter what happens at the SEC tourney. The bubble is just so weak when you see 12 and 13 loss teams on Lunardi's "first 4 out".... Saturday at Auburn should be a win, but it won't be a cake walk by any means. We all remember losing at Mizzou like it was yesterday.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AirWarren on February 22, 2017, 09:39:26 pm
Quote from: beach bum on February 22, 2017, 09:34:51 pm
Win 2 of the next 3 and we are in no matter what happens at the SEC tourney. The bubble is just so weak when you see 12 and 13 loss teams on Lunardi's "first 4 out".... Saturday at Auburn should be a win, but it won't be a cake walk by any means. We all remember losing at Mizzou like it was yesterday.

Be nice to finish 23-7.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Romeo on February 22, 2017, 10:10:29 pm
When Barford, Hannahs and Macon are all on point this is a tough team to beat.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AirWarren on February 22, 2017, 10:15:43 pm
Quote from: Romeo on February 22, 2017, 10:10:29 pm
When Barford, Hannahs and Macon are all on point this is a tough team to beat.

And when trey and manny come to play, same thing.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: HSFBF on February 23, 2017, 01:52:51 pm
I just do not know why we can not play well in the first half and get ahead and keep pulling ahead before we relax. The "standard" way we usually play in the first 10-15 minutes is relaxed, un-energized and taking a BIG chance on a good team staying close or being ahead and giving them momentum to carry on into the 2nd half. The situation of letting a team play us too close, like last night, COULD come back to haunt us if we make just 2-3 mistakes in the closing minutes and/or start missing shots/free throws and fouling out.  :-[

Texas A&M had FIVE guys play 30-37 minutes! Unheard of! They had a shallow bench and only 3 more played. U of A had 8 guys play 18-28 minutes and 3 more filled in too.. and we could NOT wear A and M down til VERY late.. And A&M had the tallest guys we have faced all year and still often beat us back down the court and made shots within a few seconds MANY times. Thank goodness the "team" came alive the final 3-4 minutes and played some defense and made some shots. But, what happens if we are out of sync the last 3-4 minutes?? Lose to someone like Alabama on Saturday?  We need a high 8-9 NCAA T spot to have a chance to win a couple of games, like in the old days. With inspired play, we might could reach past the regionals!   Fingers will be crossed Saturday like they were last night!!  ;D
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: ricepig on February 23, 2017, 03:20:02 pm
Auburn on Saturday.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: zebradynasty on February 23, 2017, 03:34:23 pm
Auburn at home will be tough if they are hitting threes! I hope we don't do a lot of trapping and just make sure we keep a man on a shooter. We give up wide open 3's....I doubt we win.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: HSFBF on February 23, 2017, 04:36:54 pm
Quote from: ricepig on February 23, 2017, 03:20:02 pm
Auburn on Saturday.
TU, my mistake, yes Auburn.... At least it "starts" with an A !!! LOL  ;)
Auburn should be easy but you still gotta play the game. Wonder if Malzahn will be interviewed by Pat Bradley and say a big "hello" to his friends back in Arkansas?  ;)
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: ricepig on February 23, 2017, 05:26:50 pm
Quote from: HSFBF on February 23, 2017, 04:36:54 pm
TU, my mistake, yes Auburn.... At least it "starts" with an A !!! LOL  ;)
Auburn should be easy but you still gotta play the game. Wonder if Malzahn will be interviewed by Pat Bradley and say a big "hello" to his friends back in Arkansas?  ;)

Lol, we don't play "easy" games any more, we'll be down a minimum of 10-12 at some point in the first half!
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AirWarren on February 25, 2017, 09:25:16 pm
22-7
11-5

Keep on trucking.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: BannerMountainMan on February 25, 2017, 11:14:58 pm
Never got down after the first 5 minutes and kept it up!! Woo Pig and now we are a lock..now we just playing for seeding
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: BannerMountainMan on February 25, 2017, 11:41:12 pm
Wednesday night game is one of the biggest games in a while..hype wise for Arky
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Lumberjackfan1978 on February 26, 2017, 09:31:32 pm
Hogs really playing a lot better ball now
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: fbhound on February 27, 2017, 09:05:47 am
Quote from: Lumberjackfan1978 on February 26, 2017, 09:31:32 pm
Hogs really playing a lot better ball now
Despite losing Hannahs, Kingsley and Watkins, those players left over plus great talent coming in, there should be some top 20 rankings for the Hogs next year, maybe even top 15. I hope the rankings THIS week will at least have the Hogs in "Others Listed" category! LOL
Florida?  Well, it's doubtful U of A can win down there but we must keep it CLOSE to not lose a lot of RPI ranking and get a good NCAA slot. Oh, and we should at least have ONE win in the SEC tournament to make things "look good".  I think we are 'in' unless we lose at Florida and the last home game and in the SEC tournament's first game. 3 losses in a row "could" make things interesting.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: bdubyab60 on February 27, 2017, 09:50:51 am
I agree. We can lose to FL and be ok. The game needs to be close though, cant get destroyed, even on the road. 3 straight losses wont look good need to take care of business at home against UGA. 2-2 the rest of the way and we may still be in. A win at FL could lock the door for us getting in.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: LRRandy on February 27, 2017, 10:43:19 am
This team has been fun to watch. I hope they continue to peek and play their best ball over the next 4 weeks. A few wins in the NCAA tournament would be really exciting.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AirWarren on February 27, 2017, 10:51:58 am
Where are the projecting us to play?
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: bdubyab60 on February 27, 2017, 12:22:24 pm
I think someone had us in Tulsa but not sure.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Romeo on February 27, 2017, 02:33:57 pm
This Arkansas team is much different from the team that played Florida in Dec. This team trusts each other more.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AirWarren on February 27, 2017, 03:21:53 pm
Quote from: Romeo on February 27, 2017, 02:33:57 pm
This Arkansas team is much different from the team that played Florida in Dec. This team trusts each other more.

Man. I love seeing barford driving to the rim like he has been doing. I like his aggression.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: LRRandy on February 27, 2017, 05:48:49 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on February 27, 2017, 03:21:53 pm
Man. I love seeing barford driving to the rim like he has been doing. I like his aggression.
my son was home this weekend ( he attends UofA) and we watched the game together. I told him I thought Barford was the type of player that could take over and have a team ride him to a couple tourney wins. Not that there aren't other players and he would have to. Not my point. Just that he has a will to get to the basket and finish that not all players have but most elite players do.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Truthfully on February 27, 2017, 06:02:36 pm
Quote from: LRRandy on February 27, 2017, 05:48:49 pm
I thought Barford was the type of player that could take over and have a team ride him to a couple tourney wins.Just that he has a will to get to the basket and finish that not all players have but most elite players do.
Hannahs does a LOT of that too, he can forget the 3 and then drive the lanes etc. Look at the game that he single handedly took over the last 5 minutes and scored like 13 points to help us win when we were behind 15 points!!  He does NOT stand around. Goes for the rebounds too. And claps for the good things OTHER teammates do on the court. We will miss him next year. The team loves his attitude I am told.
Go Hogs...
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AirWarren on February 27, 2017, 08:00:46 pm
Quote from: LRRandy on February 27, 2017, 05:48:49 pm
my son was home this weekend ( he attends UofA) and we watched the game together. I told him I thought Barford was the type of player that could take over and have a team ride him to a couple tourney wins. Not that there aren't other players and he would have to. Not my point. Just that he has a will to get to the basket and finish that not all players have but most elite players do.

Barford has that rollin with Nolan street attitude. We have been missing that for a long time. I like that get in your face and disrupt the court type kid.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: beach bum on February 27, 2017, 08:40:29 pm
Barford finishes with his off hand as good as I have seen in a long time. He looks so natural with the left hand, practically as strong as his dominant hand.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Lumberjackfan1978 on February 27, 2017, 10:07:06 pm
Barford is definitely a good player, He can take charge when he has to.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: fbhound on March 01, 2017, 06:25:33 pm
Well, Florida is showing us what a top 15 team plays like.. Don't mind losing by a few, BUT getting CLOBBERED like we are at 29-14 at mid first half is showing us how much we are lacking as a "team". Not playing smart ball and nobody is taking over as the leader on the floor, certainly not our point guards. Time to turn OFF the darn TV.

Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: beach bum on March 01, 2017, 06:39:32 pm
Florida is way faster than us in transition... Their guards pace is freeing up whatever they want right now.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: beach bum on March 01, 2017, 06:46:26 pm
I think I am going to subscribe to the Kevaughn Allen workout program and diet regime......  my goodness that guy is built like a brick.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: HSFBF on March 01, 2017, 06:51:39 pm
One word ... Sickening.
Thought at least we would play them CLOSE and show why we are a legit NCAA tournament team. NOPE..
Back to square one. Why get so excited about "being good" and winning 6 SEC road games and then get our butts whipped?
I may watch a little of second half but if we get behind by 20, then it is TV off time for me too, like FBhound.  ::)
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: HSFBF on March 01, 2017, 07:39:04 pm
As announcers have been saying the past few games, seems like Hogs do BETTER with Kingsley on the bench. Yes, he can block shots but does not score well right at the basket "point blank" and plays D too far out on the court. I fear he will not even make honorable mention on All SEC team, much less Player of the Year in SEC. As I type this, Florida has climbed back up in its lead to double digits. At least we are keeping it a bit closer now. Just wish we did not get SO far behind the first 10 minutes of the game. Next year will be different.  ;)
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Truthfully on March 01, 2017, 07:49:00 pm
Kinsley comes back in and boom, boom... turnover, doesn't rebound and not aggressive. Agree with HSFBF 100%.
We can not stop FL shooters, unguarded and no 'hand in face' at all.  At least we are not getting blown out like many thought. Just the typical getting behind way too much in the first half and trouble catching up, especially against a top 15 team at THEIR house. Gotta beat Georgia at Walton Arena and then make noise in the SEC tourney.
  NOW down only 7 and guess who, Hannahs as usual is trying hard on all fronts.

Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AirWarren on March 01, 2017, 08:41:37 pm
I love how a loss brings back the gloom and doomers.

Yet we run multiple in a row and no one to be found.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: mack on March 01, 2017, 08:48:55 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on March 01, 2017, 08:41:37 pm
I love how a loss brings back the gloom and doomers.

Yet we run multiple in a row and no one to be found.

Plus 100.... boom and mic drop.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: beach bum on March 01, 2017, 08:54:29 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on March 01, 2017, 08:41:37 pm
I love how a loss brings back the gloom and doomers.

Yet we run multiple in a row and no one to be found.

We might just have to fire MA after losing to the #12 team at their place.... That will be their logic.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Lumberjackfan1978 on March 01, 2017, 09:10:31 pm
Quote from: beach bum on March 01, 2017, 08:54:29 pm
We might just have to fire MA after losing to the #12 team at their place.... That will be their logic.
yeah that's the logic they will use
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AirWarren on March 01, 2017, 09:56:01 pm
Quote from: beach bum on March 01, 2017, 08:54:29 pm
We might just have to fire MA after losing to the #12 team at their place.... That will be their logic.

That's why I told Lanny to delete my account on hogville. Too many stupid people.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: bdubyab60 on March 02, 2017, 07:23:15 am
This one the Hogs should have been expected to lose. The good news is we were competitive in this game. They beat KY by like 20 there. FL is better than us and a lot of those folks over there on Hogville were practically guaranteeing a win. I never saw it happening. Only one time this when we have stepped up in competition have we won, SC. If some folks can't see that then they don't know what they are watching. At the end of the day this is a mediocre team that has benefited from creative scheduling. Hopefully that gets us in the tourney.

What I get tired of on Hogville is that anytime this is brought up or criticism of MA. Those folks are called haters. All they see is the record and that we are on the edge of the tourney. By the way I still think we are in but we could also play our way out. 0-2 over these next two and it won't be an easy selection Sunday.

Another thing to not like about Hogville. Is the Hogs have not lost a single game that the refs didn't cost them. Especially on the road, despite us winning the most SEC road games we ever have. I guarantee if we get those calls and win anywhere it would what a great job our players and coach did. Not we sure benefited from the refs tonight.

At the end of the day if you are fine with being mediocre, yearly bubble team and inconsistent. This against mediocre teams and a fairly week conference then fine. That is your thing.

Me, I'm ready for this program to take the next step and be a solid team. To be in high profile match ups against high profile teams. But so far the scheduling has been put in MA favor to make the tourney and I believe that. I personally have nothing against MA and I'm sure he is a fine man. But just like CBB I want him to do a better job.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: HSFBF on March 02, 2017, 10:29:03 am
Quote from: bdubyab60 on March 02, 2017, 07:23:15 am
This one the Hogs should have been expected to lose. The good news is we were competitive in this game. They beat KY by like 20 there. FL is better than us and a lot of those folks over there on Hogville were practically guaranteeing a win. I never saw it happening. Only one time this when we have stepped up in competition have we won, SC. If some folks can't see that then they don't know what they are watching. At the end of the day this is a mediocre team that has benefited from creative scheduling. Hopefully that gets us in the tourney.

What I get tired of on Hogville is that anytime this is brought up or criticism of MA. Those folks are called haters. All they see is the record and that we are on the edge of the tourney. By the way I still think we are in but we could also play our way out. 0-2 over these next two and it won't be an easy selection Sunday.

Another thing to not like about Hogville. Is the Hogs have not lost a single game that the refs didn't cost them. Especially on the road, despite us winning the most SEC road games we ever have. I guarantee if we get those calls and win anywhere it would what a great job our players and coach did. Not we sure benefited from the refs tonight.

At the end of the day if you are fine with being mediocre, yearly bubble team and inconsistent. This against mediocre teams and a fairly week conference then fine. That is your thing.

Me, I'm ready for this program to take the next step and be a solid team. To be in high profile match ups against high profile teams. But so far the scheduling has been put in MA favor to make the tourney and I believe that. I personally have nothing against MA and I'm sure he is a fine man. But just like CBB I want him to do a better job.
Very good thought process. 1+   But, when you play on the road you MUST expect bad ref calls, especially on borderline close calls, going for the home team. Always an issue and good teams overcome that disparity by being a better team that night. Last night was not the U of A's best game, too many missed point blank shots and getting a slam dunk blocked from behind on a fast break and allowing FL to outrebound us by just plain hustle, etc .... when FL had one guy go thru and around THREE Hog players right under the basket and get a rebound and putback, I knew the 'lack of hustle" Hogs were going to give up at least 15 points during the game either from offense or defense side of the ball. A recurring theme but we don't need that NOW!  :(

Glad we had 6 road wins this season, but only one (S. Carolina) was a quality team effort and hustle all game long. When we win one at KY or FL, then I know we will be back to the hustle of Nolan's era and team ball and top 10 rankings. Maybe next year?  Overall, MA has done a pretty good job, especially the past month. Still see a need for some better assistants. Some say Watkins may quit since his son is graduating. Wud be nice to see assistants who have a history of having been an assistant for a good school before being given a job for the Hogs. This is SEC ball, not Jr. College or lesser known D1 conferences ball. You build up a resume' in order to be "considered" for an assistant at an SEC or ACC or Big 12 school.
:-*
PS: hope this is "better" Smh... Whatever Smh means. Care to spell it out?

Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: mack on March 02, 2017, 11:03:21 am
Hustle-less?  Smh
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: ricepig on March 02, 2017, 04:18:39 pm
Quote from: mack on March 02, 2017, 11:03:21 am
Hustle-less?  Smh


(http://www.centralhome.com/images/Do-The-Hustle.jpg)
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: BannerMountainMan on March 03, 2017, 09:03:19 am
That call against Kingsley was not a "close" call, it was one of the worst calls I have ever seen. If you look at it again Kingsley does not even touch him..momentum was heading Arkansas' way but every time: BOOM, going the other way
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AirWarren on March 03, 2017, 10:15:35 am
Beat UGA!!!
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Truthfully on March 03, 2017, 11:05:01 am
Quote from: BannerMountainMan on March 03, 2017, 09:03:19 am
That call against Kingsley was not a "close" call, it was one of the worst calls I have ever seen. If you look at it again Kingsley does not even touch him..momentum was heading Arkansas' way but every time: BOOM, going the other way
Home referees, you see it so often, even with thousands watching on TV and with replay showing they were wrong. Nature of the beast, "home cooking" I think they call it!
???
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: DerekOxford on March 03, 2017, 08:40:53 pm
Fixing to have a baby soon, so I won't be able to make it tomorrow, but I hope they do pack the place for these three seniors.

Here's some stray thoughts on all three from me:

Moses Kingsley

This guy is a warrior, man. Had a lot of expectations placed on him coming in with Bobby and then this year after the year he had as a junior. He's gotten so much better from the time he stepped on campus to now. He's a guy that the coaching staff can point to in the future to recruits and say, "see, this is how we develop players."

He's a good dude as well. I've seen him around Fayetteville many times and he's always had a smile on his face and takes pictures with fans and just seems happy to be living life.

Dusty Hannahs

Man, if only we could've had four years with this guy. It's a dang shame that the coaching staff let him get out in 2012. If he'd been on the team two years ago with Ky, Bobby, Alandise and Mike, who knows how far that team could've gone.

We've been blessed to watch a lot of great shooters at Arkansas. To me he's the white Al Dillard. Never know how many he'll put up or how far out he'll make one.

Manny Watkins

Saving my favorite for last. This guy could've been at Missouri State and instead we got to enjoy him for four years. No one on the team works harder than him. When he started hitting 3s this year finally, it didn't shock me, because I watched him 3-4 per game at FHS for two years.

Class act. He will do great things. Wouldn't surprise me if he followed in his father's footsteps and became a successful coach. Gonna miss having the dirty work player to watch. It was Kikko for four and now it's been Manny for four. Hopefully R.J. Glasper picks up where they left off.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: BannerMountainMan on March 03, 2017, 11:46:45 pm
Quote from: DerekOxford on March 03, 2017, 08:40:53 pm
Fixing to have a baby soon, so I won't be able to make it tomorrow, but I hope they do pack the place for these three seniors.

Here's some stray thoughts on all three from me:

Moses Kingsley

This guy is a warrior, man. Had a lot of expectations placed on him coming in with Bobby and then this year after the year he had as a junior. He's gotten so much better from the time he stepped on campus to now. He's a guy that the coaching staff can point to in the future to recruits and say, "see, this is how we develop players."

He's a good dude as well. I've seen him around Fayetteville many times and he's always had a smile on his face and takes pictures with fans and just seems happy to be living life.

Dusty Hannahs

Man, if only we could've had four years with this guy. It's a dang shame that the coaching staff let him get out in 2012. If he'd been on the team two years ago with Ky, Bobby, Alandise and Mike, who knows how far that team could've gone.

We've been blessed to watch a lot of great shooters at Arkansas. To me he's the white Al Dillard. Never know how many he'll put up or how far out he'll make one.

Manny Watkins

Saving my favorite for last. This guy could've been at Missouri State and instead we got to enjoy him for four years. No one on the team works harder than him. When he started hitting 3s this year finally, it didn't shock me, because I watched him 3-4 per game at FHS for two years.

Class act. He will do great things. Wouldn't surprise me if he followed in his father's footsteps and became a successful coach. Gonna miss having the dirty work player to watch. It was Kikko for four and now it's been Manny for four. Hopefully R.J. Glasper picks up where they left off.
very good post +100
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: beach bum on March 04, 2017, 03:40:40 pm
Can't believe how fun it is watching winning Hog basketball again.... That second half was awesome. I am hoping we end up as a 7 seed or even a 10 seed. I want to stay away from that 8/9 game.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AirWarren on March 04, 2017, 04:53:32 pm
23-8!!!
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: mack on March 04, 2017, 08:00:30 pm
Shaking my head.....

I've never seen a lack of hustle from this team....
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: ricepig on March 04, 2017, 08:52:35 pm
Quote from: mack on March 04, 2017, 08:00:30 pm
Shaking my head.....

I've never seen a lack of hustle from this team....

Be lucky to win a game in the tournament.....
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: mack on March 04, 2017, 09:38:19 pm
Yeah.  I like MA, but he can't coach.  I don't care if they did win more road games than any time since Nolan.  I don't care if MA inherited the biggest cluster imaginable with grade problems.  I sure don't care that losing Portis and  Qualls kept him out of consecutive tournaments.  I don't care that he's won everywhere he's been.

Get rid of his mediocre self....
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: beach bum on March 05, 2017, 09:36:24 am
How bout those Hogs jumping up to the #3 seed with South Carolina's loss at Ole Miss. The final standings and seeds headed into the SEC tourney are below.... I would love to see us as a program now ALWAYS get the double bye by finishing in the top 4 of the SEC every year moving forward. If we do that moving forward we will always be an NCAA tourney team and some really great years will be sprinkled in those obviously.

1.Kentucky 16-2
2.Florida 14-4
3.Arkansas 12-6
4.South Carolina 12-6
5.Alabama 10-8
6.Ole Miss 10-8
7.Vanderbilt 10-8
8.Georgia 9-9
9.Tennessee 8-10
10.Texas A&M 8-10
11.Auburn 7-11
12.Miss State 6-12
13.LSU 2-16
14.Missouri 2-16
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AirWarren on March 05, 2017, 12:07:48 pm
Quote from: beach bum on March 05, 2017, 09:36:24 am
How bout those Hogs jumping up to the #3 seed with South Carolina's loss at Ole Miss. The final standings and seeds headed into the SEC tourney are below.... I would love to see us as a program now ALWAYS get the double bye by finishing in the top 4 of the SEC every year moving forward. If we do that moving forward we will always be an NCAA tourney team and some really great years will be sprinkled in those obviously.

1.Kentucky 16-2
2.Florida 14-4
3.Arkansas 12-6
4.South Carolina 12-6
5.Alabama 10-8
6.Ole Miss 10-8
7.Vanderbilt 10-8
8.Georgia 9-9
9.Tennessee 8-10
10.Texas A&M 8-10
11.Auburn 7-11
12.Miss State 6-12
13.LSU 2-16
14.Missouri 2-16

If someone complains with a 23-8 regular season with 12-6 in league play, please. I urge you. From the bottom of my heart, sell your Arkansas home and move to Vermont.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: ricepig on March 05, 2017, 12:40:34 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on March 05, 2017, 12:07:48 pm
If someone complains with a 23-8 regular season with 12-6 in league play, please. I urge you. From the bottom of my heart, sell your Arkansas home and move to Vermont.

Nah, just move to Kansas, Kentucky, or North Carolina, that's a reason for firing in those states.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: papaeagle on March 05, 2017, 12:45:39 pm
Quote from: ricepig on March 04, 2017, 08:52:35 pm
Be lucky to win a game in the tournament.....
Agree that we do play stronger in second half out of a "have to" situation, and then we catch fire.. most of the time. From here on out, we must have coach driven energy from the tipoff!!  :-\

So, I agree that in the first half of EVERY game from here on out that we have to stay "close" to the opponent, or better yet,  get ahead in the first half and STAY ahead. Catching up with a great run late in the second half will NOT work. We would be too tired ... The coaches need them to catch fire the first minute of each game.

I hope we can win at least one in the SEC Tourney and at least 2 in the NCAAs. Coaching will be a great part of our success from here on out. We have already proven we have 'talent' but getting it to 'gel' early is the key, like last night with the "team" play in the second half. ;)
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AirWarren on March 05, 2017, 01:25:32 pm
Quote from: ricepig on March 05, 2017, 12:40:34 pm
Nah, just move to Kansas, Kentucky, or North Carolina, that's a reason for firing in those states.

No. Vermont is just a miserable place. You should be banned from supporting teams.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: ricepig on March 05, 2017, 01:50:34 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on March 05, 2017, 01:25:32 pm
No. Vermont is just a miserable place. You should be banned from supporting teams.

Duh......maple syrup!!!!
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AirWarren on March 05, 2017, 01:54:51 pm
Quote from: ricepig on March 05, 2017, 01:50:34 pm
Duh......maple syrup!!!!

Aunt jemimi does just fine. Haha
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Lumberjackfan1978 on March 05, 2017, 03:27:43 pm
Way to go Hogs
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Romeo on March 05, 2017, 03:37:24 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on March 05, 2017, 01:25:32 pm
No. Vermont is just a miserable place. You should be banned from supporting teams.

If you really want them to start supporting Arkansas, tell them they'll be banned to Detroit.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AirWarren on March 05, 2017, 04:49:48 pm
Quote from: Romeo on March 05, 2017, 03:37:24 pm
If you really want them to start supporting Arkansas, tell them they'll be banned to Detroit.

Haha.

I think Detroit or Vermont would be equally as miserable.

Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: ricepig on March 05, 2017, 05:10:56 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on March 05, 2017, 04:49:48 pm
Haha.

I think Detroit or Vermont would be equally as miserable.

Less likely to get shot in Vermont. It's actually quite beautiful up there, I was up in the northeast one fall, some picturesque scenery. I wouldn't live up there, but it was I enjoyed the trip.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: HorseFeathers on March 05, 2017, 07:39:59 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on March 05, 2017, 01:25:32 pm
No. Vermont is just a miserable place. You should be banned from supporting teams.

FWIW....The Catamounts of Vermont have the same ncaa tournament record since 2000 that we do...
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: beach bum on March 05, 2017, 08:09:23 pm
Quote from: HorseFeathers on March 05, 2017, 07:39:59 pm
FWIW....The Catamounts of Vermont have the same ncaa tournament record since 2000 that we do...

They're pretty scrappy this year too.... Possible Cinderella for sure. I do remember being a youngster when they upset Syracuse. With the Orange in Upstate NY that definitely probably lit some fire under those Vermont players. I love when the selection committee does those matchups. Maybe a Duke vs. small NC school or UCLA vs. small Cali school for example. Those are fun.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: HorseFeathers on March 05, 2017, 08:38:32 pm
Quote from: beach bum on March 05, 2017, 08:09:23 pm
They're pretty scrappy this year too.... Possible Cinderella for sure. I do remember being a youngster when they upset Syracuse. With the Orange in Upstate NY that definitely probably lit some fire under those Vermont players. I love when the selection committee does those matchups. Maybe a Duke vs. small NC school or UCLA vs. small Cali school for example. Those are fun.

Arkansas vs UALR 8)
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: SUGARTOWN on March 06, 2017, 07:50:10 am
Quote from: HorseFeathers on March 05, 2017, 08:38:32 pm
Arkansas vs UALR 8)

The Trojans are 15-16, they aren't going dancing this year. That being said, 23-8 is a good year for the Hogs, but I sure hope they can win more than one game in the NCAA tourney, it's been 21 years since that's happened. Which is WAY too long.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: BannerMountainMan on March 06, 2017, 09:58:04 am
Quote from: mack on March 04, 2017, 09:38:19 pm
Yeah.  I like MA, but he can't coach.  I don't care if they did win more road games than any time since Nolan.  I don't care if MA inherited the biggest cluster imaginable with grade problems.  I sure don't care that losing Portis and  Qualls kept him out of consecutive tournaments.  I don't care that he's won everywhere he's been.

Get rid of his mediocre self....
boy he coached Saturday as they had Frazier locked down. Averaging 30+ a game and he only scored 20 as most came when it didn't matter. Great job MA. Fans like you are why we get a bad rep
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Longfellow on March 06, 2017, 10:04:26 am
Quote from: BannerMountainMan on March 06, 2017, 09:58:04 am
boy he coached Saturday as they had Frazier locked down. Averaging 30+ a game and he only scored 20 as most came when it didn't matter. Great job MA. Fans like you are why we get a bad rep
Frazier averages 19ppg. And he scored 24 Saturday. Really slowed him down
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: SUGARTOWN on March 06, 2017, 10:39:51 am
Quote from: Longfellow on March 06, 2017, 10:04:26 am
Frazier averages 19ppg. And he scored 24 Saturday. Really slowed him down

And got his 4th foul pretty early in the 2nd half or he would've got his 30. Not that it would've mattered.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: PrivateLesson on March 06, 2017, 12:54:28 pm
That's a big "IF".  Personally, I think the whole SEC is down this year compared to the ACC.  Weak.   It will be proven I'm afraid.   Would love Arkansas to advance and win.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: mack on March 06, 2017, 02:36:31 pm
Quote from: BannerMountainMan on March 06, 2017, 09:58:04 am
boy he coached Saturday as they had Frazier locked down. Averaging 30+ a game and he only scored 20 as most came when it didn't matter. Great job MA. Fans like you are why we get a bad rep

Bannerman.... read my post again.  Read it more slowly and read it from a position of maybe I was being sarcastic.....

Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: mack on March 06, 2017, 02:39:48 pm
Quote from: PrivateLesson on March 06, 2017, 12:54:28 pm
That's a big "IF".  Personally, I think the whole SEC is down this year compared to the ACC.  Weak.   It will be proven I'm afraid.   Would love Arkansas to advance and win.

Have you seen those "Captain Obvious" commercials on TV?  Who in their right mind said that the SEC was as good as the ACC?  I haven't seen anyone.  That said, I'd not be surprised if we have 2 in the great eight.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AirWarren on March 06, 2017, 02:49:59 pm
Quote from: mack on March 06, 2017, 02:39:48 pm
Have you seen those "Captain Obvious" commercials on TV?  Who in their right mind said that the SEC was as good as the ACC?  I haven't seen anyone.  That said, I'd not be surprised if we have 2 in the great eight.

The Sec has never been in the same ball park as the ACC as a whole.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: beach bum on March 06, 2017, 06:10:25 pm
The state of North Carolina and its bagillion schools it feels like sometimes will always make the ACC the cream of the crop....
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: mack on March 06, 2017, 07:51:07 pm
No it hasn't Warren.  Few conferences have.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: bdubyab60 on March 10, 2017, 08:18:56 am
Quote from: AirWarren on March 05, 2017, 12:07:48 pm
If someone complains with a 23-8 regular season with 12-6 in league play, please. I urge you. From the bottom of my heart, sell your Arkansas home and move to Vermont.
This should the norm from now on. We should and should expect a transition to a solid tourney team that is a threat.

The goal from here through that test of MAs tenure should be. These goals are very achievable IMO.

Top 4 in SEC most years. Also even with KY we should be able to steal an SEC title somewhere down the line.

Most years a solid tourney team and a threat to beat anyone, ANYONE.

I don't think that is to much to ask.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: beach bum on March 10, 2017, 01:51:41 pm
8 pm tonight!!!!
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: ricepig on March 10, 2017, 02:25:05 pm
Quote from: beach bum on March 10, 2017, 01:51:41 pm
8 pm tonight!!!!

About 8:40-8:45 at the earliest.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AirWarren on March 10, 2017, 03:04:58 pm
Go hogs!!!!
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Lumberjackfan1978 on March 10, 2017, 08:46:43 pm
Let's go Hogs
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: beach bum on March 10, 2017, 09:01:38 pm
Ole Miss is going to get tired.... We have the pace where we want it. Plus their best guard looks a little shaken after dinging his shoulder up. I see a run coming in the 2nd half.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AirWarren on March 10, 2017, 09:24:20 pm
Quote from: beach bum on March 10, 2017, 09:01:38 pm
Ole Miss is going to get tired.... We have the pace where we want it. Plus their best guard looks a little shaken after dinging his shoulder up. I see a run coming in the 2nd half.

Hope so. We have got to put our foot in their neck.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AirWarren on March 10, 2017, 10:00:35 pm
Can't keep the momentum.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: beach bum on March 10, 2017, 10:26:38 pm
Moses Kingsley had some monster block shots down the stretch.... Vandy will be tough in essentially a home game. Let's only hope their shooting isn't hot from tiring legs. Should be a good one tomorrow.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AirWarren on March 10, 2017, 10:27:24 pm
What a game.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Lumberjackfan1978 on March 10, 2017, 10:55:09 pm
Way to get that win Hogs
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: bdubyab60 on March 11, 2017, 01:36:38 pm
Will be another tough one this afternoon
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AirWarren on March 11, 2017, 02:07:42 pm
Sure will.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: beach bum on March 11, 2017, 03:59:08 pm
Going to be hard to screw this up now.... GO HOGS! Bring on the Cats!!
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: mack on March 11, 2017, 04:28:08 pm
Yep... been saying it all along.  MA can't coach....
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: bdubyab60 on March 11, 2017, 04:38:55 pm
Well let's see if can't knock these guys off and get an SECt title
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: ricepig on March 11, 2017, 04:44:18 pm
Quote from: mack on March 11, 2017, 04:28:08 pm
Yep... been saying it all along.  MA can't coach....

Thank goodness he has these one and done guys....
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AirWarren on March 11, 2017, 04:47:50 pm
Sec championship.

All you can ask for is for this team is to compete. They have and they will be playing for the SEC TOURNY crown and for sure the big dance.

Congrats to MA and his hogs.

Let's get that SEC TITLE!
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AirWarren on March 11, 2017, 04:51:29 pm
Quote from: ricepig on March 11, 2017, 04:44:18 pm
Thank goodness he has these one and done guys....

No way we make it 25 wins without these one and dones.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: ricepig on March 11, 2017, 07:09:43 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on March 11, 2017, 04:51:29 pm
No way we make it 25 wins without these one and dones.

I don't agree with every coaching decision he makes, bu it's his team. No different than Bielema or Van Horn, they all get paid to coach and win.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: beach bum on March 11, 2017, 07:21:46 pm
Quote from: ricepig on March 11, 2017, 07:09:43 pm
I don't agree with every coaching decision he makes, bu it's his team. No different than Bielema or Van Horn, they all get paid to coach and win.

Except Bert doesn't win and runs his mouth too.... MA is more humble and will actually lead Arkansas to success. MA won't trash talk opponents either.... MA > Bert
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: ricepig on March 11, 2017, 07:30:47 pm
Quote from: beach bum on March 11, 2017, 07:21:46 pm
Except Bert doesn't win and runs his mouth too.... MA is more humble and will actually lead Arkansas to success. MA won't trash talk opponents either.... MA > Bert

Except, SEC football > SEC basketball, so apples to oranges.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: LRRandy on March 12, 2017, 07:08:19 am
Quote from: ricepig on March 11, 2017, 07:30:47 pm
Except, SEC football > SEC basketball, so apples to oranges.
maybe apples to oranges. But isn't it fun to watch winning? Bert hasn't proven he can compete in the "mighty" sec. So you are right. Apples and oranges
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: ricepig on March 12, 2017, 08:02:36 am
Quote from: LRRandy on March 12, 2017, 07:08:19 am
maybe apples to oranges. But isn't it fun to watch winning? Bert hasn't proven he can compete in the "mighty" sec. So you are right. Apples and oranges

Bert, such childish bravado from a Suckeye fan...... ;D
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Lumberjackfan1978 on March 12, 2017, 12:48:14 pm
Go Hogs
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Trojanbird on March 12, 2017, 01:37:36 pm
Kentucky coach is coaching and Anderson is watching!
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: mack on March 12, 2017, 01:56:56 pm
Begone Bucknut troll.....
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: mack on March 12, 2017, 02:00:05 pm
Quote from: Trojanbird on March 12, 2017, 01:37:36 pm
Kentucky coach is coaching and Anderson is watching!

That is just a ridiculous statement.  Losing to KY in the finals of the SEC tournament by 9 or 10 is not unthinkable.  How many McDonalds All Stars on MAs roster?  How many on Cal's?

You guys kill me....
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Romeo on March 12, 2017, 02:04:21 pm
The media is going to bash Arkansas for being classless but Malik Monk fueled this with his throat slash.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AirWarren on March 12, 2017, 02:10:14 pm
Quote from: Romeo on March 12, 2017, 02:04:21 pm
The media is going to bash Arkansas for being classless but Malik Monk fueled this with his throat slash.

But no technical called. Typical.

He and his brother will get what is coming to them. I wish the state would exile every monk family member out of this state. You ain't welcome here no mo!
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: BrianfromCarlisle on March 12, 2017, 02:14:27 pm
You give me the attitude Arkansas showed at the end of this game any day!  They play like that, they're going to be a tough out. I for one thoroughly enjoyed Hannah's screen. Vitale is an idiot. I think Bam wouldn't enjoy squaring up with Barford.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Romeo on March 12, 2017, 02:14:52 pm
I just wish that was Monk instead of Fox Kingsley fouled.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Lumberjackfan1978 on March 12, 2017, 02:16:13 pm
Quote from: mack on March 12, 2017, 02:00:05 pm
That is just a ridiculous statement.  Losing to KY in the finals of the SEC tournament by 9 or 10 is not unthinkable.  How many McDonalds All Stars on MAs roster?  How many on Cal's?

You guys kill me....
Quote from: Trojanbird on March 12, 2017, 01:37:36 pm
Kentucky coach is coaching and Anderson is watching!
Anderson was coaching Kentucky coach doesn't have to coach with the one and done's
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: bdubyab60 on March 12, 2017, 02:41:02 pm
i see a lot of folks complaining about this throat slash. Gonna have to get over it. Guarantee you he was giving back what he was getting. Both squads were jawing. I have nothing against a little trash talk and some hard fowling. But when we did it just came off as kind of childish to me more than being tough.

People need to move in from Monk. This was the last time we will face them more than likely. We all know that was a business decision anyway.

The concern now is Kingsley was ejected for his foul. Is he suspended or what. Does anyone know. And yet again will fail to step up when the competition gets tougher.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: mack on March 12, 2017, 02:48:35 pm
Quote from: bdubyab60 on March 12, 2017, 02:41:02 pm
i see a lot of folks complaining about this throat slash. Gonna have to get over it. Guarantee you he was giving back what he was getting. Both squads were jawing. I have nothing against a little trash talk and some hard fowling. But when we did it just came off as kind of childish to me more than being tough.

People need to move in from Monk. This was the last time we will face them more than likely. We all know that was a business decision anyway.

The concern now is Kingsley was ejected for his foul. Is he suspended or what. Does anyone know. And yet again will fail to step up when the competition gets tougher.

Hmmmm, telling people to get over it?  That says a little about your sense of sportsmanship.  Then, you take a jab at Akingsley who's had a very good season.
Go somewhere where you can actually support a team.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: bdubyab60 on March 12, 2017, 02:59:20 pm
Quote from: mack on March 12, 2017, 02:48:35 pm
Hmmmm, telling people to get over it?  That says a little about your sense of sportsmanship.  Then, you take a jab at Akingsley who's had a very good season.
Go somewhere where you can actually support a team.
Ill be right here. I'm a hog fan. I'm just saying when you start doing crap at the end of a game you are losing it looks childish. Should have done it a lot earlier if he's going to do it at all. But it's kind of hard to be doing throat slashes down 17 I guess

I'm a fan not a blind homer like some.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: ricepig on March 12, 2017, 03:00:42 pm
Quote from: bdubyab60 on March 12, 2017, 02:41:02 pm
i see a lot of folks complaining about this throat slash. Gonna have to get over it. Guarantee you he was giving back what he was getting. Both squads were jawing. I have nothing against a little trash talk and some hard fowling. But when we did it just came off as kind of childish to me more than being tough.

People need to move in from Monk. This was the last time we will face them more than likely. We all know that was a business decision anyway.

The concern now is Kingsley was ejected for his foul. Is he suspended or what. Does anyone know. And yet again will fail to step up when the competition gets tougher.

Kingsley is eligible for the next game, and your Lepanto homerism is showing a little too much.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: bdubyab60 on March 12, 2017, 03:03:27 pm
And by the way Moses has had an ok season but he played like crap most of the game. So was he mad at Kentucky, Monk or himself when he finally got ejected. And if he is suspended for a half think of how much that decision cost his teammates.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: bdubyab60 on March 12, 2017, 03:07:23 pm
Quote from: ricepig on March 12, 2017, 03:00:42 pm
Kingsley is eligible for the next game, and your Lepanto homerism is showing a little too much.
Maybe. But I wish we were good enough to do some throat slashes. Way easier to do win you are winning instead of a reaction to getting taunted while you are losing.

But everyone on here is showing their homerism. Condoning a flagrant foul and condemning a throat slash.

I'm still a hog fan in the end and we will eventually all get over it
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AirWarren on March 12, 2017, 03:29:35 pm
Quote from: BrianfromCarlisle on March 12, 2017, 02:14:27 pm
You give me the attitude Arkansas showed at the end of this game any day!  They play like that, they're going to be a tough out. I for one thoroughly enjoyed Hannah's screen. Vitale is an idiot. I think Bam wouldn't enjoy squaring up with Barford.

Yup. I like it.

Like I said. The monk trash will get theirs in the end.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: ricepig on March 12, 2017, 03:46:38 pm
Quote from: bdubyab60 on March 12, 2017, 03:07:23 pm
Maybe. But I wish we were good enough to do some throat slashes. Way easier to do win you are winning instead of a reaction to getting taunted while you are losing.

But everyone on here is showing their homerism. Condoning a flagrant foul and condemning a throat slash.

I'm still a hog fan in the end and we will eventually all get over it

Hard foul, I've seen a lot worse that wasn't called flagrant. But this is an Arkansas board, for the most part, so what do you expect? In 2015 we got beat like this and laid down, today we had some "fight" to us. Who cares what Vitale, or some other national guy cries, they all suck up to KY, UNC, and Duke, anyway.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: itdontcare on March 12, 2017, 03:51:10 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on March 12, 2017, 03:29:35 pm
Yup. I like it.

Like I said. The monk trash will get theirs in the end.
How can you talk trash, you non athletic horn blowing band nerd!
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: mack on March 12, 2017, 03:57:10 pm
Quote from: itdontcare on March 12, 2017, 03:51:10 pm
How can you talk trash, you non athletic horn blowing band nerd!

It's easy!  For all the athletic ability he has, Monk has close to zero heart.  During losses, he laughs on the bench.  He makes throats slashes.  Watched him in high school and it was the same.  He puts up huge numbers, but can't do it when he's pushed.  Jarrod Barnes made him look very average in the state tournament.  He scores 30 one night,  8 the next at Kentucky.  He's not tough and he can't grind.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: bdubyab60 on March 12, 2017, 03:59:34 pm
Quote from: ricepig on March 12, 2017, 03:46:38 pm
Hard foul, I've seen a lot worse that wasn't called flagrant. But this is an Arkansas board, for the most part, so what do you expect? In 2015 we got beat like this and laid down, today we had some "fight" to us. Who cares what Vitale, or some other national guy cries, they all suck up to KY, UNC, and Duke, anyway.
Thats true. Just wished we would give the entire game. And despite what we think the perception is much different than in this board or what I think.

Heck there's even an article about the High Road Kentucky took after the cheap shot. That's the actual title
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: bigworm on March 12, 2017, 04:07:14 pm
Arkansas wasnt going to win this game. Every call went their way the whole tourny. But that just made the gap larger. KU hit shots and we didnt.

Cal dont have to coach. But part of coaching is recruiting. At some point his infractions will come to be known. But for now he gets the cream of the crop.

I never expected monk to come to UA. I mean he left his buddies high and dry at lepanto. Why would you expect any less.

UA will be fine. MA coached well. We just didnt make shots
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: bdubyab60 on March 12, 2017, 05:36:40 pm
An 8 seed and Seton Hall. Winnable game. Let's see what happens
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: beach bum on March 12, 2017, 05:46:28 pm
Quote from: Trojanbird on March 12, 2017, 01:37:36 pm
Kentucky coach is coaching and Anderson is watching!

Kentucky's coach also has two lottery picks to work with and last time I checked Anderson wasn't the reason our guys only shot like 4/18 from the 3 point line and couldn't buy a bucket...... Move along now.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: beach bum on March 12, 2017, 05:48:53 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on March 12, 2017, 02:10:14 pm
But no technical called. Typical.

He and his brother will get what is coming to them. I wish the state would exile every monk family member out of this state. You ain't welcome here no mo!

I am not really even a hater of Monk, but watch when he plays. Elite NBA players are going to expose his lack or no defense at all. He will be quite an offensive talent in the NBA, but he doesn't have the defense that the elites who bring it both ways have.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: bigworm on March 12, 2017, 06:17:17 pm
Quote from: beach bum on March 12, 2017, 05:48:53 pm
I am not really even a hater of Monk, but watch when he plays. Elite NBA players are going to expose his lack or no defense at all. He will be quite an offensive talent in the NBA, but he doesn't have the defense that the elites who bring it both ways have.

Wont matter. He will be a millionare before the realize it. Hahaha.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: beach bum on March 12, 2017, 06:36:01 pm
Quote from: bigworm on March 12, 2017, 06:17:17 pm
Wont matter. He will be a millionare before the realize it. Hahaha.

That money won't help him guard the top 5 shooting guards in the NBA.....
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AirWarren on March 12, 2017, 07:09:08 pm
Quote from: itdontcare on March 12, 2017, 03:51:10 pm
How can you talk trash, you non athletic horn blowing band nerd!

Haha.

I wouldn't know what a musical instrument if you handed it to me.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: BannerMountainMan on March 12, 2017, 08:25:10 pm
Quote from: beach bum on March 12, 2017, 06:36:01 pm
That money won't help him guard the top 5 shooting guards in the NBA.....
you won't make millions in the D league after three years.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: beach bum on March 12, 2017, 08:39:59 pm
Quote from: BannerMountainMan on March 12, 2017, 08:25:10 pm
you won't make millions in the D league after three years.

His scoring ability is too high to ever fall that far.... He won't ever be an elite player in the NBA though like his fans think he will be though. He is just a scorer. He doesn't make the players around him better though which is what separates the best from the rest.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: mack on March 12, 2017, 08:43:18 pm
Excellent points beach bum....

I just hope we don't forget his actions and welcome him back to Arkansas.

He's no Keith Jackson....
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: mack on March 12, 2017, 08:44:24 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on March 12, 2017, 07:09:08 pm
Haha.

I wouldn't know what a musical instrument if you handed it to me.

Well, if you're ever interested, I teach guitar😜
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AirWarren on March 12, 2017, 09:45:07 pm
Quote from: mack on March 12, 2017, 08:44:24 pm
Well, if you're ever interested, I teach guitar😜

Playing like synyster Gates of avenged sevenfold would be awesome...

Ha
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: mack on March 12, 2017, 10:00:35 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on March 12, 2017, 09:45:07 pm
Playing like synyster Gates of avenged sevenfold would be awesome...

Ha

I'm not a miracle worker😉
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: LRRandy on March 13, 2017, 08:12:16 am
Quote from: ricepig on March 12, 2017, 08:02:36 am
Bert, such childish bravado from a Suckeye fan...... ;D
so you counter with childish bravado of your own. I see. I would say you are more brave being that my statement of your coaches inability to compete is accurate.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: ricepig on March 13, 2017, 08:22:16 am
Quote from: LRRandy on March 13, 2017, 08:12:16 am
so you counter with childish bravado of your own. I see. I would say you are more brave being that my statement of your coaches inability to compete is accurate.

Our "coaches" can compete, thus our nice ranking in the Director's Cup.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: mack on March 13, 2017, 09:19:16 am
Dang it..... what are these carpet bagging Yankees doing down here anyway....

Trump ought to build the wall along the Mason Dixon line. 
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: beach bum on March 13, 2017, 09:34:24 am
Quote from: ricepig on March 13, 2017, 08:22:16 am
Our "coaches" can compete, thus our nice ranking in the Director's Cup.

He is talking about our football coach who can not compete. He is stuck 10 years in the past with his style that can not win anymore. The game is revolutionizing and Bert isn't adapting.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: LRRandy on March 13, 2017, 09:44:09 am
Quote from: ricepig on March 13, 2017, 08:22:16 am
Our "coaches" can compete, thus our nice ranking in the Director's Cup.
yea gymnastics! Way to go track! Those coaches do well to pull up the directors cup ranking since the football coach doesn't hold up his end of the bargain.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: ricepig on March 13, 2017, 09:56:37 am
Quote from: LRRandy on March 13, 2017, 09:44:09 am
yea gymnastics! Way to go track! Those coaches do well to pull up the directors cup ranking since the football coach doesn't hold up his end of the bargain.

Well, if you're going to argue, try and learn to do it correctly. "Coaches" is plural, or was it as a noun?
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: ricepig on March 13, 2017, 09:58:53 am
Quote from: beach bum on March 13, 2017, 09:34:24 am
He is talking about our football coach who can not compete. He is stuck 10 years in the past with his style that can not win anymore. The game is revolutionizing and Bert isn't adapting.

He shouldn't have used the plural of coach, or was it as a noun?  MA is stuck in a system that won a NC 23 years ago, correct?
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: mack on March 13, 2017, 10:19:50 am
Randy suffers from Bucknut withdrawal syndrome.  He needs to retire and move back to Columbus.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: ricepig on March 13, 2017, 10:47:31 am
If Bielema doesn't win a sufficient number of games by year 6, there will be a change, that's been understood by most. Everyone deserves 6 years, right? I guess Jimmy didn't, but he was going to have a hard time filling a roster at the rate it was going this season.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: LRRandy on March 13, 2017, 10:52:25 am
Quote from: ricepig on March 13, 2017, 09:56:37 am
Well, if you're going to argue, try and learn to do it correctly. "Coaches" is plural, or was it as a noun?
i guess I would resort to being a grammar nazi too if I didn't care to defend the mediocrity of my football coach. I mean, you have to try to win something, don't you ricepig.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: ricepig on March 13, 2017, 11:02:09 am
Quote from: LRRandy on March 13, 2017, 10:52:25 am
i guess I would resort to being a grammar nazi too if I didn't care to defend the mediocrity of my football coach. I mean, you have to try to win something, don't you ricepig.

I guess you didn't read this......
Quote from: ricepig on March 13, 2017, 10:47:31 am
If Bielema doesn't win a sufficient number of games by year 6, there will be a change, that's been understood by most. Everyone deserves 6 years, right? I guess Jimmy didn't, but he was going to have a hard time filling a roster at the rate it was going this season.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: SUGARTOWN on March 13, 2017, 11:05:27 am
Quote from: beach bum on March 12, 2017, 06:36:01 pm
That money won't help him guard the top 5 shooting guards in the NBA.....

You don't necessarily have to guard to play in the NBA. See James Harden. But I digress...

Monk has the ability to be a great scorer in the NBA. But has been pointed out here, he has no heart and is only out for himself. Zero leadership abilities and definitely not a team player. He's cool win or lose as long as he gets his points.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: beach bum on March 13, 2017, 11:19:31 am
Quote from: ricepig on March 13, 2017, 10:47:31 am
If Bielema doesn't win a sufficient number of games by year 6, there will be a change, that's been understood by most. Everyone deserves 6 years, right? I guess Jimmy didn't, but he was going to have a hard time filling a roster at the rate it was going this season.

No, if we go 5-7 or 6-6 next year he has had enough time.... bye bye. That means he will only win 2 or 3 games against meaningful competition next year if we go 5-7 or 6-6. He has 3 given wins against Coastal Carolina, Florida A&M, and New Mexico State. Those three teams could combine rosters and should not beat us so he must go 4-5 at least in the remaining meaningful games to it even remotely be considered a half way respectable year. 6-6 is never acceptable for any major program when 3 cupcakes are on the schedule every year.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: ricepig on March 13, 2017, 12:23:52 pm
Quote from: beach bum on March 13, 2017, 11:19:31 am
No, if we go 5-7 or 6-6 next year he has had enough time.... bye bye. That means he will only win 2 or 3 games against meaningful competition next year if we go 5-7 or 6-6. He has 3 given wins against Coastal Carolina, Florida A&M, and New Mexico State. Those three teams could combine rosters and should not beat us so he must go 4-5 at least in the remaining meaningful games to it even remotely be considered a half way respectable year. 6-6 is never acceptable for any major program when 3 cupcakes are on the schedule every year.

Well, you'll just have to moron for another season.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: LRRandy on March 13, 2017, 04:04:48 pm
Quote from: ricepig on March 13, 2017, 12:23:52 pm
Well, you'll just have to moron for another season.
and unfortunately the fan base will have to muddle through the mire of mediocrity for another year.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: beach bum on March 13, 2017, 04:08:46 pm
Quote from: ricepig on March 13, 2017, 12:23:52 pm
Well, you'll just have to moron for another season.

The definition of a moron is getting the same negative result over and over and not wanting to change anything so the shoe fits for you apparently. You only called me a moron because you know you support a loser who won't ever win more than 8 games maximum in a year in the regular season. Have fun wasting your money for another year. I'd rather wipe my butt with 75 bucks than pay that to watch mediocre football for one game.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: beach bum on March 13, 2017, 04:09:29 pm
Quote from: LRRandy on March 13, 2017, 04:04:48 pm
and unfortunately the fan base will have to muddle through the mire of mediocrity for another year.

He will ride a loser to the grave....
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: ricepig on March 13, 2017, 04:16:12 pm
Quote from: beach bum on March 13, 2017, 04:08:46 pm
The definition of a moron is getting the same negative result over and over and not wanting to change anything so the shoe fits for you apparently. You only called me a moron because you know you support a loser who won't ever win more than 8 games maximum in a year in the regular season. Have fun wasting your money for another year. I'd rather wipe my butt with 75 bucks than pay that to watch mediocre football for one game.

Type in b i t c h, it comes out as moron on the filter. I didn't call you anything, I said that's what you'll do for another season. Seeing how we haven't average over 8 wins a season since joining the SEC that's not bad, lol. Lucky for me, I'll never notice the money. I've been going to games since 1967, I'm not going to stop now.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: ricepig on March 13, 2017, 04:18:18 pm
Quote from: beach bum on March 13, 2017, 04:09:29 pm
He will ride a loser to the grave....

Nope, I'm just not from the me now group, it sometimes takes time, and sometimes, it doesn't work out. We'll know for sure in two more years.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: mack on March 13, 2017, 08:31:34 pm
Quote from: ricepig on March 13, 2017, 04:18:18 pm
Nope, I'm just not from the me now group, it sometimes takes time, and sometimes, it doesn't work out. We'll know for sure in two more years.

Yup.....
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AirWarren on March 13, 2017, 08:43:21 pm
What do ya know. A razorback thread taking a turn for the worst haha
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Lumberjackfan1978 on March 13, 2017, 11:10:25 pm
Quote from: ricepig on March 13, 2017, 10:47:31 am
If Bielema doesn't win a sufficient number of games by year 6, there will be a change, that's been understood by most. Everyone deserves 6 years, right? I guess Jimmy didn't, but he was going to have a hard time filling a roster at the rate it was going this season.
it used to be five years didn't it
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AirWarren on March 14, 2017, 08:11:46 am
Mike Anderson going after "dick" vitale. I like it.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: ricepig on March 14, 2017, 09:02:31 am
Quote from: Lumberjackfan1978 on March 13, 2017, 11:10:25 pm
it used to be five years didn't it

I was told he was "promised" 6 years when he was hired, I guess we're a little slower in Arkansas.......
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: LRRandy on March 14, 2017, 09:33:46 am
Quote from: AirWarren on March 14, 2017, 08:11:46 am
Mike Anderson going after "dick" vitale. I like it.
I agree. They need to put Vitale out to pasture.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: ricepig on March 14, 2017, 09:38:59 am
So, back to basketball, will "one and done" satisfy your requirements for this year? For me, it was always, make the tournament this year, so yeah, just barely.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Redwolves8526 on March 14, 2017, 09:47:22 am
Quote from: SUGARTOWN on March 13, 2017, 11:05:27 am
You don't necessarily have to guard to play in the NBA. See James Harden. But I digress...

Monk has the ability to be a great scorer in the NBA. But has been pointed out here, he has no heart and is only out for himself. Zero leadership abilities and definitely not a team player. He's cool win or lose as long as he gets his points.

Not true. He is a team player.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: zebradynasty on March 14, 2017, 10:18:34 am
Mike has more than done what is necessary to keep his job. In fact the talk that he may be on the seat was dumb and it hurts the program. The coach from Vandy deserves a lot credit and he deserves COY. But MA would be a strong second!

Monk will be have a decent pro career. He will learn to play better defense as it's not that he can't he's never had to. I don't wish him bad luck even though how he did Arkansas was crappy! IMO he's burned too many bridges even if he develops into like a NBA-All Star very few here will forgive him.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: mack on March 14, 2017, 10:50:02 am
He lacks heart.  He won't make those around him better.   He'll score some points and  be a defensive liability.  Defense takes heart.

He will make millions.  Gotta give him that.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: smallybells on March 14, 2017, 11:19:57 am
Quote from: LRRandy on March 14, 2017, 09:33:46 am
I agree. They need to put Vitale out to pasture.

I concur. Dick Vitale is the Lee Corso of college basketball, the only difference being is that Corso has figured out it is about time to hang it up and relax. Dickie V on the other hand still feels his rambling on national TV is somehow relevant.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Redwolves8526 on March 14, 2017, 01:38:18 pm
Quote from: mack on March 14, 2017, 10:50:02 am
He lacks heart.  He won't make those around him better.   He'll score some points and  be a defensive liability.  Defense takes heart.

He will make millions.  Gotta give him that.

How do you know the kid doesn't have heart? Lol
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: SUGARTOWN on March 14, 2017, 02:58:11 pm
Quote from: Redwolves8526 on March 14, 2017, 09:47:22 am
Not true. He is a team player.

Lol, ok.

Yes, SUCH a team player.

http://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/watch-while-kentucky-was-getting-hammered-malik-monk-was-laughing-it-up/

Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AirWarren on March 14, 2017, 04:01:38 pm
Quote from: SUGARTOWN on March 14, 2017, 02:58:11 pm
Lol, ok.

Yes, SUCH a team player.

http://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/watch-while-kentucky-was-getting-hammered-malik-monk-was-laughing-it-up/



Let the little puppy fan be.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: BannerMountainMan on March 14, 2017, 04:01:48 pm
Quote from: Redwolves8526 on March 14, 2017, 01:38:18 pm
How do you know the kid doesn't have heart? Lol
whens yalls date?
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Redwolves8526 on March 15, 2017, 09:30:00 am
Quote from: AirWarren on March 14, 2017, 04:01:38 pm
Let the little puppy fan be.

I support a kid from Arkansas. Just because he didn't go to your choice of school doesn't mean the people who support him are puppy fans. Do I root for Kentucky over U of A? No, I really couldn't care less. But it's ignorant for people to get on here and say he has no heart, doesn't play hard, isn't a team player, etc.

This would not be the conversation if he played for Arkansas. This is comical
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Redwolves8526 on March 15, 2017, 09:30:36 am
Quote from: BannerMountainMan on March 14, 2017, 04:01:48 pm
whens yalls date?

When Arkansas makes the Sweet 16 again
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: SUGARTOWN on March 15, 2017, 10:36:24 am
Quote from: Redwolves8526 on March 15, 2017, 09:30:36 am
When Arkansas makes the Sweet 16 again

Shouldn't you be worried about finding a coach who doesn't leave after one year?
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: BannerMountainMan on March 15, 2017, 10:55:56 am
Quote from: Redwolves8526 on March 15, 2017, 09:30:36 am
When Arkansas makes the Sweet 16 again
i was talking about you and Malik's date since your stuck up his butt
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: bdubyab60 on March 15, 2017, 11:11:13 am
Quote from: BannerMountainMan on March 15, 2017, 10:55:56 am
i was talking about you and Malik's date since your stuck up his butt
Most of you are more truly upset by him. Go get some counseling.

Im just about positive if Monk had done everything for the Hogs that he has done at Kentucky none of you would be talking crap. As far as the pros who knows. The kid can score and the NBA likes that. The good news is we will only have to face him for this one year, probably.

He didn't choose us and never was going too, maybe if our program had been in better shape. Hes on a title contender, will be a lottery pick and all of you will still be griping about it and downing the kid.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: ricepig on March 15, 2017, 11:24:01 am
Quote from: bdubyab60 on March 15, 2017, 11:11:13 am
Most of you are more truly upset by him. Go get some counseling.

Im just about positive if Monk had done everything for the Hogs that he has done at Kentucky none of you would be talking crap. As far as the pros who knows. The kid can score and the NBA likes that. The good news is we will only have to face him for this one year, probably.

He didn't choose us and never was going too, maybe if our program had been in better shape. Hes on a title contender, will be a lottery pick and all of you will still be griping about it and downing the kid.

Truthfully, most can understand Malik, what they don't appreciate is what Marcus did. I realize Marcus was just taking care of himself, but he used his connections and didn't do it honestly.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: BannerMountainMan on March 15, 2017, 11:26:07 am
Quote from: ricepig on March 15, 2017, 11:24:01 am
Truthfully, most can understand Malik, what they don't appreciate is what Marcus did. I realize Marcus was just taking care of himself, but he used his connections and didn't do it honestly.
oh we understand what he did, but what is bad is asking for donations and stuff while fans thinking he was going to Ark but them two knew the whole time.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: bdubyab60 on March 15, 2017, 12:05:10 pm
Quote from: ricepig on March 15, 2017, 11:24:01 am
Truthfully, most can understand Malik, what they don't appreciate is what Marcus did. I realize Marcus was just taking care of himself, but he used his connections and didn't do it honestly.
I cannot deny that. But the hate needs to be directed accordingly one would think. I as a Hog fan knew from the beginning, around 8th grade where he was going. I did hear rumors of a Nike school. But many on here and another board didn't believe me when I said where he was going and for folks not to get their hopes up. Now the folks that forked over $$$$ have a reason to be mad. But college recruiting is a cutthroat business and I would say there was attempts to use on both sides.

Marcus to get his name out there and whatever other benefits. And NWA to get the services of his brother to take that risk, in return.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: mack on March 17, 2017, 10:17:08 am
Quote from: Redwolves8526 on March 15, 2017, 09:30:00 am
I support a kid from Arkansas. Just because he didn't go to your choice of school doesn't mean the people who support him are puppy fans. Do I root for Kentucky over U of A? No, I really couldn't care less. But it's ignorant for people to get on here and say he has no heart, doesn't play hard, isn't a team player, etc.

This would not be the conversation if he played for Arkansas. This is comical

Go ahead and be his fan.  He isn't a team player and he has no heart.  That had nothing to do with him coming to Arkansas or not.  You don't sit on the bench and laugh when you're
20 down.  You don't fold up like z cheap suit when you're in the biggest game of your high school career and Jerrod Barnes makes you his little... puppy.
Stay on his butt and buy his pro jersey if you want.  I hope he never steps foot in the state again. 
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: BannerMountainMan on March 17, 2017, 10:22:16 am
Great day for a W for the Pigs!!! Let's gooo
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: OB11 on March 17, 2017, 01:02:57 pm
Both teams playing sloppy in stretches so far.  Arkansas puts a few good possessions together and then forces 2 or 3 quick shots in a row.  Seton Hall is running their offense just not getting shots to fall.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Jacketman65 on March 17, 2017, 01:30:12 pm
The more I watch, the more I wonder why Beard is ever on the floor!
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: ricepig on March 17, 2017, 02:48:04 pm
https://twitter.com/_BlakeEddins/status/842822983475511297
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Romeo on March 17, 2017, 02:52:05 pm
Academy Award goes to Barford.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AirWarren on March 17, 2017, 02:55:05 pm
Quote from: Romeo on March 17, 2017, 02:52:05 pm
Academy Award goes to Barford.

The "call heard around the world"

God forbid if Arkansas finally gets a break...
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: dc24 on March 17, 2017, 02:56:51 pm
Quote from: mack on March 17, 2017, 10:17:08 am
Go ahead and be his fan.  He isn't a team player and he has no heart.  That had nothing to do with him coming to Arkansas or not.  You don't sit on the bench and laugh when you're
20 down.  You don't fold up like z cheap suit when you're in the biggest game of your high school career and Jerrod Barnes makes you his little... puppy.
Stay on his butt and buy his pro jersey if you want.  I hope he never steps foot in the state again. 

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.

(http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/899/264/8ea.jpg)
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Romeo on March 17, 2017, 03:04:23 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on March 17, 2017, 02:55:05 pm
The "call heard around the world"

God forbid if Arkansas finally gets a break...

Hey, I'll take it. In my opinion, that's good coaching. That was a good sell by Barford and the refs fell for it. Sometimes its better to be lucky then good (i.e. Dardanelle 2014)
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: ricepig on March 17, 2017, 03:07:16 pm
Quote from: Romeo on March 17, 2017, 02:52:05 pm
Academy Award goes to Barford.

It was a flagrant and 1 if he doesn't fall down, you have to make an attempt on the ball, not a two hand shiver in the back, with a trip thrown in.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Romeo on March 17, 2017, 03:11:50 pm
Quote from: ricepig on March 17, 2017, 03:07:16 pm
It was a flagrant and 1 if he doesn't fall down, you have to make an attempt on the ball, not a two hand shiver in the back, with a trip thrown in.

After researching you appear to be correct. Barford still did a great job of selling it.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: beach bum on March 17, 2017, 03:16:02 pm
We shall bow down to Kingsley.... What a game when everyone else but Barford didn't show up offensively.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: bdubyab60 on March 17, 2017, 03:38:25 pm
I few could somehow win this next one it could be a program changer. UNC is for real though.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: mack on March 17, 2017, 03:47:22 pm
Quote from: dc24 on March 17, 2017, 02:56:51 pm
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.

(http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/899/264/8ea.jpg)

Great meme.  You're obviously a deep thinker.  I like that.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AirWarren on March 17, 2017, 03:55:26 pm
Quote from: Romeo on March 17, 2017, 03:04:23 pm
Hey, I'll take it. In my opinion, that's good coaching. That was a good sell by Barford and the refs fell for it. Sometimes its better to be lucky then good (i.e. Dardanelle 2014)

Oh yes. It was time for our break haha
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AirWarren on March 17, 2017, 04:04:23 pm
Looks like we will have another date with North Carolina.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: ricepig on March 17, 2017, 04:05:16 pm
Quote from: beach bum on March 17, 2017, 03:16:02 pm
We shall bow down to Kingsley.... What a game when everyone else but Barford didn't show up offensively.

Thomas, 6/9 5Rbs 13 points? Hannah's 14pts???
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: fbhound on March 19, 2017, 10:40:14 am
Kingsley had a great game against Seton Hall BUT there was nobody really helping him with rebounds to keep us close in that category / stat. With NC being one of the top rebounders in the nation and averaging 85 points a game, they obviously put back a lot of those offensive boards and limit their opponents second shots.

Seton Hall had a rebound advantage over us of 46 to 32, 14 more boards. Something MUST be done to block out, crash the boards and make our shots to stop their defensive rebounds. If we shoot less than 50% from the field I think we will lose the game and we MUST get NC in foul trouble by driving the lanes and dishing off the ball if someone is open. No more 3 point shots from guys who should NOT be shooting them... Beard or Watkins. More driving the lanes from Beard and having a "plan" of action when he does. Watkins is needed inside more than outside. Cook must protect the ball... and on and on.

Guess what I am saying is that AR needs to play "TEAM" ball and have more energy from all players, including those on the bench who WILL see action.  Bottom line is (1) stay in the rebounding game and (2) shoot well and (3) play like it is your last game in college to our Seniors, energy and play smart basketball.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AirWarren on March 19, 2017, 06:28:39 pm
I like this fight.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: VHSCoach2 on March 19, 2017, 07:15:21 pm
Put up a good fight, but went cold from the field at the worst time.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AirWarren on March 19, 2017, 07:21:52 pm
Let the refs influence the game. Gotta make shots when calls are blantantly one sided.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: RATTLER43 on March 19, 2017, 07:23:47 pm
Quote from: VHSCoach2 on March 19, 2017, 07:15:21 pm
Put up a good fight, but went cold from the field at the worst time.

Agreed.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: bdubyab60 on March 19, 2017, 07:24:25 pm
That want cold. That was a total lack of any offense in the last 3 minutes. Here let's just give the ball to one guy and not screen one.

Proud that we were there at the end but definitely one we let get away imo
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: ricepig on March 19, 2017, 07:29:37 pm
Quote from: bdubyab60 on March 19, 2017, 07:24:25 pm
That want cold. That was a total lack of any offense in the last 3 minutes. Here let's just give the ball to one guy and not screen one.

Proud that we were there at the end but definitely one we let get away imo

Yep, the refs missed a call, but we did nothing from 65-60, we just didn't have any offense at the end. The hole we dug early caused us to extend a lot of energy, it bit us at tea end. Nice season, but still disappointing at the end.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: HorseFeathers on March 19, 2017, 07:30:41 pm
Facebook blowing up blaming the refs.....buuuut doesn't matter what the refs call when you basically stop playing offense with 4 minutes to go...

Before tonight, I hadnt watched a hogs basketball game since pelphreys was here....This game might have me interested in watching a few next season...
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Romeo on March 19, 2017, 07:33:22 pm
Thank you Dusty, Manny and Moses.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AirWarren on March 19, 2017, 07:34:56 pm
Tough loss. But fun season. Mike needed this for the program. Got two solid classes coming in. I expect some fun years ahead.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: bdubyab60 on March 19, 2017, 07:35:18 pm
Quote from: ricepig on March 19, 2017, 07:29:37 pm
Yep, the refs missed a call, but we did nothing from 65-60, we just didn't have any offense at the end. The hole we dug early caused us to extend a lot of energy, it bit us at tea end. Nice season, but still disappointing at the end.
Yeah that probably should have been a charge. But yeah 4 minutes without a bucket spelled doom. 3 or 4 chances to extend the lead. Just one basket makes a huge difference in a game like this
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AirWarren on March 19, 2017, 07:40:03 pm
Quote from: bdubyab60 on March 19, 2017, 07:35:18 pm
Yeah that probably should have been a charge. But yeah 4 minutes without a bucket spelled doom. 3 or 4 chances to extend the lead. Just one basket makes a huge difference in a game like this

Gotta have that killer instinct to slash and hope to draw contact. Most of the top teams, have that. Tough loss that sucks when we were in position to play in Memphis and be in the sweet 16.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Romeo on March 19, 2017, 07:43:59 pm
Just hope this season helps fuel more interest in the basketball program.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: bdubyab60 on March 19, 2017, 07:47:46 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on March 19, 2017, 07:40:03 pm
Gotta have that killer instinct to slash and hope to draw contact. Most of the top teams, have that. Tough loss that sucks when we were in position to play in Memphis and be in the sweet 16.
Yeah would have been nice. Hopefully the way we finished the season has some carry over to next season. Would have been nice to buy some UNC fans tickets to watch us play in Memphis
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: ricepig on March 19, 2017, 08:06:41 pm
Quote from: bdubyab60 on March 19, 2017, 07:47:46 pm
Yeah would have been nice. Hopefully the way we finished the season has some carry over to next season. Would have been nice to buy some UNC fans tickets to watch us play in Memphis

Yeah, a business partner of mine has a suite at FedEx, not our business, lol. I had the phone ready to request 2 seats on speed dial...
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: beach bum on March 24, 2017, 05:54:01 pm
The #1 recruit in the nation, Michael Porter has just committed to Missouri for the coming 2017-2018 season. He was committed to Washington where his dad was an assistant coach, but when Romar got fired at Washington the assistants were given the boot too like usual. His dad has connections to Counzo Martin who just hired at Missouri from Cal and formally at Tennessee. This won't make Mizzou a top dog in the SEC, but you could certainly see them go from bottom to the 4th-6th spot if they get another piece in. The SEC next year IMO could end up with 7 or 8 NCAA tourney teams if the conference reaches its potential in non conference play. I would love to see the league get to the point where a 10-8 conference record pretty much locks you in the NCAA tournament. Florida, Vandy, UK, and us will be good again. Even losing Thornwell, South Carolina will be decent as long as Frank Martin is strolling that sideline. Then Auburn, Miss State were  freshmen heavy. Throw in Bama with a top level recruiting class plus their stellar defense and Mizzou now too. Also, that big guy for Ole Miss is back. Like I said I would love to see the SEC get 7 or 8 bids next year which is not impossible. That would be the ceiling, but is possible. The Hogs will have to bring it to a different level next year to maintain a top 3 spot in the league.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: mtindian42 on March 25, 2017, 08:41:59 pm
Quote from: beach bum on March 24, 2017, 05:54:01 pm
The #1 recruit in the nation, Michael Porter has just committed to Missouri for the coming 2017-2018 season. He was committed to Washington where his dad was an assistant coach, but when Romar got fired at Washington the assistants were given the boot too like usual. His dad has connections to Counzo Martin who just hired at Missouri from Cal and formally at Tennessee. This won't make Mizzou a top dog in the SEC, but you could certainly see them go from bottom to the 4th-6th spot if they get another piece in. The SEC next year IMO could end up with 7 or 8 NCAA tourney teams if the conference reaches its potential in non conference play. I would love to see the league get to the point where a 10-8 conference record pretty much locks you in the NCAA tournament. Florida, Vandy, UK, and us will be good again. Even losing Thornwell, South Carolina will be decent as long as Frank Martin is strolling that sideline. Then Auburn, Miss State were  freshmen heavy. Throw in Bama with a top level recruiting class plus their stellar defense and Mizzou now too. Also, that big guy for Ole Miss is back. Like I said I would love to see the SEC get 7 or 8 bids next year which is not impossible. That would be the ceiling, but is possible. The Hogs will have to bring it to a different level next year to maintain a top 3 spot in the league.
porter Jr grew up in Boone county in Missouri. He is back home now! And man can he ball... Missouri just became a force...
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AirWarren on March 26, 2017, 01:21:38 pm
Tough to see an elite 8 team with two central Arkansas boys in their starting lineup(Conway and Little Rock).

Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: ricepig on March 26, 2017, 01:41:52 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on March 26, 2017, 01:21:38 pm
Tough to see an elite 8 team with two central Arkansas boys in their starting lineup(Conway and Little Rock).

Don't even remember the Leon kid in high school.......
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AirWarren on March 26, 2017, 03:19:26 pm
Quote from: ricepig on March 26, 2017, 01:41:52 pm
Don't even remember the Leon kid in high school.......

I don't either.


Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Oldref on March 26, 2017, 03:59:36 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on March 26, 2017, 03:19:26 pm
I don't either.
I didn't even know he was from Arkansas until they did the starting lineup today and heard them say he was from Conway. I am rooting for UNC to finish the final four out. Just cant root for Kentucky coach. Should be a good one.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: BannerMountainMan on May 02, 2017, 11:35:21 pm
Man how bout the Hogs picking up the true PG Jalen Harris.gomna be a stud but has to sit out a year since he transferred from New Mexico
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AirWarren on May 03, 2017, 09:12:13 am
Quote from: BannerMountainMan on May 02, 2017, 11:35:21 pm
Man how bout the Hogs picking up the true PG Jalen Harris.gomna be a stud but has to sit out a year since he transferred from New Mexico

I like it. Hate it he has to sit out.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: BannerMountainMan on May 09, 2017, 08:43:29 pm
What a great day to be alive! Barford and Macon coming back to send us to the ship
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AirWarren on May 09, 2017, 09:09:33 pm
Welcome home Macon and Barford.

I expect and great year ahead.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: beach bum on May 10, 2017, 05:58:15 pm
SEC basketball as a whole is going to be so fun to watch next season. We likely could be better and not win as many games as we did at our 12-6 SEC record. Auburn was so young & Mizzou will instantly improve to middle of the pack or maybe slightly better. Alabama plays great defense and had two McDonalds All Americans sign. South Carolina loses a ton but what a coach and defense they will always have. Florida not only probably wins the league but could win it all too. Kentucky is well Kentucky. Vanderbilt will likely be a tourney team again. If Barford gets a little better outside shot he will be beyond scary on offense plus I think we see a few more streaky hot 25-30 point performances from Macon. I love his demeanor and the look he has when we lose. You can tell he hates to lose and I know that has to drive him. Barford has a little bit of hot head moments but when he channels that fire it shows positively.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: beach bum on June 10, 2017, 02:07:32 pm
I came across how they released the SEC basketball 18 game schedule just last week for all 14 teams next year..... We actually drew quite a big break because we only play Florida and Kentucky once each next year. The 5 teams we are slotted to play twice are all actually very winnable teams and most of these five should finish toward the bottom of the SEC. We play Auburn, LSU, Missouri, Texas A&M, and Ole Miss all in a home and home. Then we get Kentucky, South Carolina, Tennessee, and Vanderbilt just once at HOME..... The four other teams left are only one ROAD game against Florida, Mississippi State, Georgia, and Alabama. Considering, the SEC is only getting better we could not have asked for a better draw as far as who we get twice and some tougher games at home. This will help considering our non conference scheduled is beefed up and quite tough. At first I was trying to damper my expectations a little thinking we may be better or about the same, but couldn't win as many games simply due to a very tough strength of schedule. Now I am expecting about the same amount of wins or it would be a little bit of a let down. Seeing this schedule got me even more excited looking at next season since we know the football Hogs are going to have a tough go at it.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: WPWells on June 11, 2017, 02:07:12 pm
Missouri will be tough
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: smallybells on June 16, 2017, 03:29:25 pm
I know it's really, really early, but Arkansas currently holds the No.1 spot for the 2018 recruiting class. At least we can say we were there at one time!

http://247sports.com/Season/2018-Basketball/CompositeTeamRankings (http://247sports.com/Season/2018-Basketball/CompositeTeamRankings)
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Proud Buckaroo on June 16, 2017, 09:57:44 pm
Hopefully Perry becoming a 5 star.... We can still keep him. There is about to be a lot more teams coming after him.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AirWarren on July 06, 2017, 09:18:49 am
Quote from: Proud Buckaroo on June 16, 2017, 09:57:44 pm
Hopefully Perry becoming a 5 star.... We can still keep him. There is about to be a lot more teams coming after him.

He is officially gone.

Time to move on.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: beach bum on July 06, 2017, 01:18:29 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on July 06, 2017, 09:18:49 am
He is officially gone.

Time to move on.

Exactly, I honestly don't want one and dones here. He is that good. I knew we wouldn't keep him once the big dogs came calling. I want guys that will be here at least 2 years. The rest of that signing class is good enough this won't absolutely set us back a year like when dumbo Qualls decided to leave.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: WPWells on July 06, 2017, 04:25:02 pm
Here's a question: who's the best coach on the U of A campus? Depending on how the discussion goes, I may make a new thread for this.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: RATTLER43 on July 06, 2017, 04:29:59 pm
Lance Harter
Chris Bucknam
Dave Van Horn
Mike Anderson

There are others who are accomplished as well.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AirWarren on July 06, 2017, 04:34:40 pm
Quote from: WPWells on July 06, 2017, 04:25:02 pm
Here's a question: who's the best coach on the U of A campus? Depending on how the discussion goes, I may make a new thread for this.

DVH
MA
BB

this of course being the big three sports.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: beach bum on July 06, 2017, 04:36:43 pm
This thread is going to take a turn for the worse.... And it will probably be me who takes it there eventually. I like all our coaches except for one and its not that hard to figure out.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: RATTLER43 on July 06, 2017, 06:28:13 pm
Quote from: RATTLER43 on July 06, 2017, 04:29:59 pm
Lance Harter  Arkansas has collected 13 NCAA podium (top four) finishes including the 2016 NCAA Outdoor Championship team title, 2015 NCAA Indoor Championship team title and five national runner-up performances – four of those from cross country. Harter has also guided his team to 28 SEC titles (16 cross country, six indoor track and six outdoor track) including the last seven-consecutive conference championships dating back to the 2014 SEC outdoor meet. His title haul at Arkansas also includes 20 NCAA Regional Championships in cross country. Has multiple rings including two at Arkansas.

Chris Bucknam  Bucknam has led the Razorbacks to 20 top 10 finishes. His cross country squads have placed in the top 10 four times while track and field has 16 top 10s including four national runner-up finishes and a national title.  Has a ring at Arkansas and wins the toughest conference in track regularly in Arkansas most successful program. Hard to follow the Legend, but he has done well.

Dave Van Horn  Van Horn has led Arkansas to four College World Series appearances, 13 NCAA Tournament berths, one Southeastern Conference overall title, three SEC Western Division championships.  Close, but no big cigar yet.

Mike Anderson 2011-Pres.
Six Seasons   Arkansas
Head Coach   128-74 (.634)
15 Seasons      328-172 (.656) Never had a losing record.  Wonderful coach, mediocre recruiter.

There are others who are accomplished as well.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: cuckoobird on July 07, 2017, 09:36:36 am
1) DV
2) a-whatever letter is MA and all the none profit sports.
3) BB and only because the former women's basketball coach wasthe worse decision I've ever seen an AD make in hiring.
4) current women's basketball coach because of the unknown
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Romeo on July 17, 2017, 11:31:00 am
Quote from: AirWarren on July 06, 2017, 09:18:49 am
He is officially gone.

Time to move on.

Reggie Perry has committed to Mississippi State.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AirWarren on July 17, 2017, 11:42:09 am
Quote from: Romeo on July 17, 2017, 11:31:00 am
Reggie Perry has committed to Mississippi State.

Good for him.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: beach bum on July 17, 2017, 11:52:08 am
Quote from: Romeo on July 17, 2017, 11:31:00 am
Reggie Perry has committed to Mississippi State.

Huh?? If the kid went to Kentucky, Duke, North Carolina, or even Florida I would have understood him dropping us. Oh well he'll have fun finishing below the Hogs once or twice in the SEC standings. What a stupid decision. I am all for young men making decisions to help them get to the NBA faster, but Miss State? I never once dogged on Monk for picking Kentucky because for him it was the right decision. I dogged him once he showed his true colors of being a cocky show boat. Look at his demeanor compared to DeAaron Fox or Bam Adebayo this last season. Those two other guys were actually humble about their game.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Romeo on July 17, 2017, 12:29:37 pm
His father also played at Mississippi State. Might have been one of the factors for going there.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: beach bum on July 17, 2017, 12:48:43 pm
Quote from: Romeo on July 17, 2017, 12:29:37 pm
His father also played at Mississippi State. Might have been one of the factors for going there.

Ok that I can understand. At first I was just scratching my head. I know he is from Georgia so if he would have went to Florida in Gainesville even that would have made sense.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: Romeo on July 17, 2017, 12:53:36 pm
According to reports, he de-committed from Arkansas due to family health reasons and wanted to be closer to south Georgia. Starkville is closer to his location than Fayetteville but is still about 7 hours away.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AirWarren on July 17, 2017, 01:22:57 pm
Quote from: Romeo on July 17, 2017, 12:29:37 pm
His father also played at Mississippi State. Might have been one of the factors for going there.

Father played there.

7 hours vs 14 hour drive from Thomasville to Starkville.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: beach bum on July 17, 2017, 04:17:54 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on July 17, 2017, 01:22:57 pm
Father played there.

7 hours vs 14 hour drive from Thomasville to Starkville.

This......... I seriously would have understand if he went to one of the blue blood programs or even to Florida State or Florida with those two being so close to his high school. But Miss State?? Come on give me a break something is fishy here.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: AirWarren on July 17, 2017, 04:28:32 pm
It isn't what it is. At this point, I'm used to Arkansas swinging and missing on blue chip talent.
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: BannerMountainMan on July 23, 2017, 09:27:28 am
We don't need him we need another a 4 star big guy that won't want to be a ball hog to get looks from the NBA, gonna be a great next few years!!
Title: Re: Razorback Basketball 2016-2017
Post by: beach bum on July 23, 2017, 07:02:37 pm
Quote from: BannerMountainMan on July 23, 2017, 09:27:28 am
We don't need him we need another a 4 star big guy that won't want to be a ball hog to get looks from the NBA, gonna be a great next few years!!

I want guys that will be here 2 years at least.... Like a Portis type. I think Gafford has that potential to be 2 or 3 years and gone. I am just glad we have a good enough recruiting class in total this doesn't wreck us. On another note one guy that will be a sophomore next year I hope takes his game to the next level is Bailey. If he gets an offensive game to go with his motor he can add something to Macon and Barford. The North Carolina game showed he isn't scared of a little competition how good he played.