I did these rankings around the same time last year and I'm doing them once again this year.. Please mention players that you think should be on the list.
Class of 2017:
1. Daniel Gafford - El Dorado HS
2. Khalil Garland - Parkview HS
3. Tevin Brewer - FS Northside HS
4. Darius Hall - Mills HS
5. Javon Franklin - Parkview HS
6. Tremont Robinson - Maumelle HS
7. SK Shittu - Providence Academy
8. Exavian Christon - Hot Springs HS
9. Kris Bankston - J.A Fair HS
10. Cameron Johnson - LR Central HS
11. Casey Benton - SCA
12. B.J Thompson - England HS
13. Czar Perry - El Dorado HS
14. Jeremiah Toney - Mills HS
15. Avery Benson - Harber HS
16. Romen Martin - Bryant HS
17. Brandon Fenner - Charleston HS
18. Matt Stanley - Cabot HS
19. Ethan Bowman - Ozark HS
20. Matt Thomas - Farmington HS
Class of 2018:
1. Connor Vanover - Baptist Prep
2. Ethan Henderson - LR Parkview
3. Desi Sills - Jonesboro
4. JT Smith - Riverview
5. Kobe Wilson - Jonesboro
6. Kalin Bennett - LRCA
7. Caleb Stokes - LR Parkview
8. Isaiah Joe - FS Northside
9. Caddarius Baggett - Pine Bluff
10. Donald Richardson - LR Central
Class of 2019:
1. Justice Hill - LRCA
2. Isaac McBride - Baptist Prep
3. Tylor Perry - Harber HS
4. Airion Simmons - Parkview HS
5. Jay Campbell - Nettleton HS
Justice Hill is #1 in 2019? Saw McBride absolutely destroy him in a head to head matchup last year. McBride had 35 with Hill on him. He is #1 in name only. Arkansas offered the second best point guard on Hwy 10 and you wonder why they can't get over the hump. No Monk, no Reaves,no Jones.
A lot better shooter than Hill, but I don't know about point guard skills, i.e. ball handling, leadership, etc... Haven't seen enough of him without the McGonigal twins.
Tevin brewer is so high it's crazy
Not sure there are 11 players better than b.j. thompson, especially if he just concentrated on basketball.
Quote from: pick_DA_EAGLES on March 13, 2016, 05:01:35 pm
Not sure there are 11 players better than b.j. thompson, especially if he just concentrated on basketball.
I'm starting to think Football is B.J's best sport now... I think he holds 5 offers for football?!
Quote from: arkhoops94 on March 13, 2016, 06:31:34 pm
I'm starting to think Football is B.J's best sport now... I think he holds 5 offers for football?!
Yea I know he has more football offers, but he looks like a basketball player playing football. Especially if he grows a couple more inches.
Quote from: MA on March 13, 2016, 03:41:40 pm
Tevin brewer is so high it's crazy
Tevin Brewer had 43 points in the state playoffs against Van Buren only if he had some bigs to help him out in the inside stop the hate please
Personally I think Brewer is about right. Throughout the season hes gotten better and better! The kid can play!!
Can anyone tell me any info on Cameron Johnson or Romen Martin
Certainly Brewer's height will affect his college recruiting standing. But what he does in a high school game is a joy to watch. Guys 6 inches taller can't keep up with him.
Quote from: Grizzlyfan on March 14, 2016, 10:45:29 am
Certainly Brewer's height will affect his college recruiting standing. But what he does in a high school game is a joy to watch. Guys 6 inches taller can't keep up with him.
Without a doubt
Harrison's Trevor Atwell should definitely be on that 2017 list.
6'5" and can play 2,3,4,5.
Darius Hall, Javon Franklin, Tremont Robinson, SK Shittu, Exavian Christon, Casey Benton, Czar Perry, Jeremiah Toney
All better prospects and affect a HS game more so than Brewer.
I think Brewer is an unbelievable player especially for his size. But this is one of the best classes in Arkansas history. He isn't #3... By any stretch of the imagination
Here is the all state 2016 list: http://members.ahsaa.org/public/userfiles/Basketball/2016/BB_AllState_2016.pdf
How does Hot Springs get 5 on team and Maumalle and Forest City only get 2. Have nothing to do with any of these teams just seems strange!
Quote from: Ctucker on March 15, 2016, 09:11:12 am
How does Hot Springs get 5 on team and Maumalle and Forest City only get 2. Have nothing to do with any of these teams just seems strange!
Looks like 8 guys per conference, each conference does it different. It's usually based on where you placed in your conference standings, or they voted on who was nominated.
Quote from: Ctucker on March 15, 2016, 09:11:12 am
How does Hot Springs get 5 on team and Maumalle and Forest City only get 2. Have nothing to do with any of these teams just seems strange!
FC and Maumelle getting 2 is correct. Don't know how HS got 5.
Darius Hall got offered by the HOGS!!
Quote from: Elvis Hoggoblin on March 14, 2016, 10:59:10 am
Harrison's Trevor Atwell should definitely be on that 2017 list.
6'5" and can play 2,3,4,5.
You have to be able to guard the position you want to play. Saw him at Wings tryout on Sunday and it did not look like he could guard well on the perimeter. To be fair that is the only time I have seen him. Moved more like a 4 man.
Quote from: Rocket23 on March 13, 2016, 02:01:58 pm
A lot better shooter than Hill, but I don't know about point guard skills, i.e. ball handling, leadership, etc... Haven't seen enough of him without the McGonigal twins.
He is a great ball handler, passer, leader, and defensive player. He will end up being the best guard in that class if he is not already!
Quote from: Eagle20 on March 15, 2016, 09:22:18 pm
You have to be able to guard the position you want to play. Saw him at Wings tryout on Sunday and it did not look like he could guard well on the perimeter. To be fair that is the only time I have seen him. Moved more like a 4 man.
He won't guard the perimeter well. He completely shut down the big kid at El Dorado though and was outsized by 4 or 5 inches.
It's funny how no one shows recognition for James Yancy class of 2018 that dropped 57 against the top 10th graders in the nation. But everything is based upon the authors opinion not actual statistics because if it was based on statistics Yancy would most definitely be in the top 3 but obviously it's not
Statistics? You think it should be based on statistics?
To be fair the kid at El dorado is just tall, bad attitude and no post moves in the 3 games I saw. He can get rebounds but that should be a given. Even against EPC he only scored when the ball came off the rim to him and he was 6-7 inches taller than everyone. Not a perimeter player at all and he didn't have a jumper when I saw him so I don't think he would do much damage from the high post, if any.
Quote from: MA on March 24, 2016, 09:15:07 am
Statistics? You think it should be based on statistics?
that's how all ranks are based upon not neccesarily school stats but combine stats exposure camp stats aau stats if you can't average more than 15 in an aau season you shouldn't even be ranked Yancy averages 23.2 ppg 6.4 APG 5.1 RBPG 2.2 stlspg
Enjoyed watching Malik Monk on the McDonalds game. Wish he was a Hog but I understand. I'm gonna root like heck for him because at the end of the day, he's one of us. An Arkansan.
Quote from: ARmaxpreps on March 29, 2016, 01:31:50 pm
that's how all ranks are based upon not neccesarily school stats but combine stats exposure camp stats aau stats if you can't average more than 15 in an aau season you shouldn't even be ranked Yancy averages 23.2 ppg 6.4 APG 5.1 RBPG 2.2 stlspg
I'm gonna disagree with you. Let's say there's a 6'3" playmaker guard averaging 10 pts a game and maybe 8 assists per game who is a lockdown defender. Has all the intangible things that there aren't statistics for. Academically sound and a great leader. He's just a winner and does what winners do. Does he not deserve to be ranked? I think too many times people fall in love with the scoring average and highlight plays. I'll be honest, if I were a college coach, I'd take an Austin Reaves over a Malik Monk any day. He passes it more and is a proven winner. But that's just my opinion.
Quote from: Moonshiner on April 01, 2016, 08:27:09 am
I'm gonna disagree with you. Let's say there's a 6'3" playmaker guard averaging 10 pts a game and maybe 8 assists per game who is a lockdown defender. Has all the intangible things that there aren't statistics for. Academically sound and a great leader. He's just a winner and does what winners do. Does he not deserve to be ranked? I think too many times people fall in love with the scoring average and highlight plays. I'll be honest, if I were a college coach, I'd take an Austin Reaves over a Malik Monk any day. He passes it more and is a proven winner. But that's just my opinion.
This is also True but If this player is 6'3 in an uncompetitive conference would you still rank him even with the same stats? James Yancy is 5'11 and can easily score he can move the ball around accurately and has excellent court vision. He has a 3.8 GPA and a 24 ACT. Also He scored 50+ points against the top 2018 players in the NATION not just Arkansas But the nation!?! He obviously deserves a top 10 spot in AR. James is a phenomenal player an he will be playing in the Real Deal at Hall Highschool
April 1st @7:30pm BE THERE
Quote from: ARmaxpreps on April 01, 2016, 06:40:03 pm
This is also True but If this player is 6'3 in an uncompetitive conference would you still rank him even with the same stats? James Yancy is 5'11 and can easily score he can move the ball around accurately and has excellent court vision. He has a 3.8 GPA and a 24 ACT. Also He scored 50+ points against the top 2018 players in the NATION not just Arkansas But the nation!?! He obviously deserves a top 10 spot in AR. James is a phenomenal player an he will be playing in the Real Deal at Hall Highschool
April 1st @7:30pm BE THERE
These rankings are subjective and mean absolutely nothing, put out a list with him #1 on it, you'll sleep better.
Quote from: ricepig on April 01, 2016, 07:09:09 pm
These rankings are subjective and mean absolutely nothing, put out a list with him #1 on it, you'll sleep better.
its the simple fact that no one recognizes talent if it's looking dead at them
Quote from: ARmaxpreps on April 01, 2016, 08:22:41 pm
its the simple fact that no one recognizes talent if it's looking dead at them
And it means nothing, do you think college coaches are logging on to FF searching for talent, surely you're smarter than that.
Quote from: ricepig on April 01, 2016, 09:22:46 pm
And it means nothing, do you think college coaches are logging on to FF searching for talent, surely you're smarter than that.
+1... Although they better be taking my opinions seriously 8)
Quote from: ARmaxpreps on March 29, 2016, 01:31:50 pm
that's how all ranks are based upon not neccesarily school stats but combine stats exposure camp stats aau stats if you can't average more than 15 in an aau season you shouldn't even be ranked Yancy averages 23.2 ppg 6.4 APG 5.1 RBPG 2.2 stlspg
AAU stats are pretty meaningless. Taking note of certain games against good competition says much more. Another problem with AAU is there is not much team defense being played and it is easier to get driving buckets with no help side. I did see Avery Benson take two charges for the Wings EYBL team at Real Deal last night in a tough game. Cooper makes them play team defense and play hard. That is usually not the case though.
He plays in a competitive league with M.W.A. Elite in the Under amour associate circuit
Quote from: Elvis Hoggoblin on March 14, 2016, 10:59:10 am
Harrison's Trevor Atwell should definitely be on that 2017 list.
6'5" and can play 2,3,4,5.
Every year a Harrison homer has a "player" that is all everything...and every year you really hear nothing about them other than from Harrison fans....been happening for the last 9 or 10 years! Must be something in the water over there!!!
ARmaxpreps are you sore from riding that Yancy guy all day or is the pay enough for you to make it through it and keep posting the same repetitive crap. He's a good at basketball okay, let's see if he can get noticed on the court. You posting the same stats on here everyday will not spark any sudden interest from any college coach who's well respected.
Quote from: ARmaxpreps on April 03, 2016, 08:09:10 am
He plays in a competitive league with M.W.A. Elite in the Under amour associate circuit
If he is good enough he will get noticed. I am sure he is talented there are usually just guys with the same amount of talent that are taller and the shorter guys end up playing D-2 or lower. You still have to be really good to play anywhere though. You have to be really elite to play D-1 at 5'11" or shorter.
IMO unless ur playing EYBL its really hard to get noticed. AAU sometimes but it depends when and where if the coaches you want are there. Mostly D3 and JR college coaches are there. GoodLuck to him sounds like he will be fine though good ACT score and can ball sometimes thats half the battle.
Quote from: Silky Johnson on April 03, 2016, 03:51:47 pm
ARmaxpreps are you sore from riding that Yancy guy all day or is the pay enough for you to make it through it and keep posting the same repetitive crap. He's a good at basketball okay, let's see if he can get noticed on the court. You posting the same stats on here everyday will not spark any sudden interest from any college coach who's well respected.
you want stats what's your email I got all his stats from the real deal and scored 20+ in every game he played which was only 3 and I've never posted the same stats young man
Quote from: BigMan15 on April 04, 2016, 10:17:16 am
IMO unless ur playing EYBL its really hard to get noticed. AAU sometimes but it depends when and where if the coaches you want are there. Mostly D3 and JR college coaches are there. GoodLuck to him sounds like he will be fine though good ACT score and can ball sometimes thats half the battle.
he's highly recruited last time I checked with coach J.Rice he's getting letters from Clemson Arizona and UCLA on a regular CLEMSON has already told him that if he does good 2016-17 season they'll offer him. Hes an elite player and if you're in bentonville April 8-10 you should check him out in the warm ups
Quote from: ARmaxpreps on April 05, 2016, 09:20:24 pm
he's highly recruited last time I checked with coach J.Rice he's getting letters from Clemson Arizona and UCLA on a regular CLEMSON has already told him that if he does good 2016-17 season they'll offer him. Hes an elite player and if you're in bentonville April 8-10 you should check him out in the warm ups
So, where this ranking has him hasn't affected his recruiting, interesting...............
Quote from: ricepig on April 05, 2016, 10:06:31 pm
So, where this ranking has him hasn't affected his recruiting, interesting...............
it's the fact no one gives him recognition that's all my man
Quote from: ARmaxpreps on April 08, 2016, 07:33:07 pm
it's the fact no one gives him recognition that's all my man
Looks like the ones that matter have recognized him.
Yes everyone except his own state and we wonder why our best players choose other school over Fayetteville because they don't start recruiting/recognizing them and offering them in til they're dang near seniors
Quote from: ARmaxpreps on April 27, 2016, 01:35:09 pm
Yes everyone except his own state and we wonder why our best players choose other school over Fayetteville because they don't start recruiting/recognizing them and offering them in til they're dang near seniors
Lol, we've offered freshman and sophomores lately, try again.
Quote from: ricepig on April 27, 2016, 02:47:44 pm
Lol, we've offered freshman and sophomores lately, try again.
they offered an in state prospect after his freshman year last summer in Connor Vanover! I guess that contradicts both of those arguments. That also offered the kid from ElDorado after his sophomore year. Pretty sure they offered Monk when he was very young also. They are missing on some in state kids but I am not sure Yancy is one of them. He is good but there are guards as good and bigger. Same category as RJ Glasper in my opinion.
Quote from: Eagle20 on April 27, 2016, 10:21:39 pm
they offered an in state prospect after his freshman year last summer in Connor Vanover! I guess that contradicts both of those arguments. That also offered the kid from ElDorado after his sophomore year. Pretty sure they offered Monk when he was very young also. They are missing on some in state kids but I am not sure Yancy is one of them. He is good but there are guards as good and bigger. Same category as RJ Glasper in my opinion.
Justice Hill ring a bell? He's also a commit. Ethan Henderson has an offer, need any more?
http://www.wholehogsports.com/news/2015/aug/01/razorbacks-offer-arkansas-hawks-forward/
Anyone know who signed today
Shaun Doss, Marion, 6'4" Guard/Forward, Class of 2017
Timothy Ceaser, 6'8" Forward, Class 2019
Ceaser is an elite talent that can step out and shoot the 3. He has natural shot blocking ability and can score around the rim.
Doss is an athletic player that will play guard at the next level. He has an excellent mid-range game. Can attack the rim and is developing a good 3 point shot.
Where is Timothy Ceaser from
Quote from: BigMan15 on March 14, 2016, 10:04:42 am
Can anyone tell me any info on Cameron Johnson or Romen Martin
Romeo Martin is a great player and even better kid.
He has an extremely hard work ethic and is a coaches dream because he will do whatever whenever you ask him. Super athletic and handles pressure well. I look for him to have a great season and be a great addition to whatever college program he chooses.
Romen** dang auto correct on these phones!!
I can second on Romen Martin. Great kid. Can shoot from deep and guards very well. Does the little things well. Expect him to have a great season!
Is the Doss kid still at Marion? Heard rumors from a few guys that he might be going to Earle
After seeing some more of these boys
Class of 2017
1. Khalil Garland
2. Javon Franklin
3. Daniel Gafford
4. Darious Hall
5. Exavion Christian
6. Tremont Robinson
7. Kris Bankston
8. Tevin Brewer
9. SK
10. BJ Thompson
11. Czark Perry
12. Cameron Johnson
13. Casey Benton
14. Brandon Fenner
15. Avery Benson
16. Jerimiah Toney
17. Romen Martin
18. Matt Stanley
19. Matt Thomas
20. Ethan Bowman
I know he plays for a 1A school, but Josh Ballard from Guy Perkins is an incredible basketball player. Has a very good vertical jump and has a great pull up jump shot. One of the best I have seen at driving to the basket and finishing. Don't know if this is accurate but I heard he averaged 28 pts per game last year. I only saw Guy Perkins play 1 time last year but I think he had 30 in that game. I have seen him in summer ball and he looks really good.
Ive heard of him but never saw him.
SK has picked up an offer from Tulsa
Quote from: BigMan15 on June 01, 2016, 11:44:23 am
Where is Timothy Ceaser from
Ceaser is from Marion as well.
Marquis Eaton from Jonesboro should definitely be on this 2017 list one of the top pg in the state easily
This list is a joke
I think it is a very good list, although surely there are more point guards that could be considered. I think Tevin Brewer at #8 is too low. Most exciting kid I saw in the 7A tournament last year.
Only a 1A player but Jeff Jefferson is putting up insane numbers already this season. I talked to his coach at Emerson and in 2 games last week he had 55 pts, 30 rebs (yes, he is a pg), and 16 assists. I forgot the number of steals. He was all-state and all-state tournament last year on a 35-1 team.
Just trying to give a little love to the point guards.