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Camden Fairview @ Pulaski Academy

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PercussionMan

This could very well be another shootout at PA...I think I may have to drive over and check this one out for myself.

Hoggy

Quote from: wildboy44 on November 17, 2014, 09:31:20 am
Quote from: BigSportsman on November 17, 2014, 09:02:26 am
If the refs called the 2nd half like they called the first half it would have been a different ballgame.  When the home team is booing the refs when they come out of the tunnel after half time its amazing how they started calling a different game...not to mention a police escort off the field after the game.  I also find it VERY interesting that CF hasn't lost a HOME game since 2011 (things that make you go hhhmmmmm)! Both teams made mistakes but the game was called VERY differently after the half!  BTW, next time you might want to let them know that we go by HIGH SCHOOL rules during High School games, NOT College (Yes, a couple of them were playing by NCAA rules).

If you think the game against PA will be close then you are delusional, the only way CF is going to win is if you have the same refs from last week so they can "help you win". *wink wink nudge nudge*
Its not that we win all home games...we win period. We lost 1 game in 2011 to Greenwood. We didn't lose at all in 2012. We lost 2 games in 2013, Hope and Batesville. We have lost 3 games this year. That's 6 games since 2011. So we do go to other teams place and win also. The 1st half Harrison got the onside kicks which gave them  extra possessions. 2nd half we got those kicks. I watched offensive linemen block downfield on pass plays all night and the refs didn't call it once. We play this Friday against PA, your more than welcome to come cheer the Bruins on. Camden Fairview lost to El Dorado, Magnolia and Hot Springs....you wont find 1 CFV poster that blamed the refs for loosing either of those games. Take the L and keep moving. Greenwood has beat us at home on more than 1 occasion. PA has beat us at home. El Dorado has beat us at home. Those were all great teams.
you are living in the past.  Camden is pretty solid this year but nothing like past few years.  They are heading for a steep decline the next few years

Youngsta71701

November 17, 2014, 10:36:51 am #52 Last Edit: November 17, 2014, 10:40:35 am by Youngsta71701
Quote from: Hoggy on November 17, 2014, 10:11:17 am
Quote from: wildboy44 on November 17, 2014, 09:31:20 am
Quote from: BigSportsman on November 17, 2014, 09:02:26 am
If the refs called the 2nd half like they called the first half it would have been a different ballgame.  When the home team is booing the refs when they come out of the tunnel after half time its amazing how they started calling a different game...not to mention a police escort off the field after the game.  I also find it VERY interesting that CF hasn't lost a HOME game since 2011 (things that make you go hhhmmmmm)! Both teams made mistakes but the game was called VERY differently after the half!  BTW, next time you might want to let them know that we go by HIGH SCHOOL rules during High School games, NOT College (Yes, a couple of them were playing by NCAA rules).

If you think the game against PA will be close then you are delusional, the only way CF is going to win is if you have the same refs from last week so they can "help you win". *wink wink nudge nudge*
Its not that we win all home games...we win period. We lost 1 game in 2011 to Greenwood. We didn't lose at all in 2012. We lost 2 games in 2013, Hope and Batesville. We have lost 3 games this year. That's 6 games since 2011. So we do go to other teams place and win also. The 1st half Harrison got the onside kicks which gave them  extra possessions. 2nd half we got those kicks. I watched offensive linemen block downfield on pass plays all night and the refs didn't call it once. We play this Friday against PA, your more than welcome to come cheer the Bruins on. Camden Fairview lost to El Dorado, Magnolia and Hot Springs....you wont find 1 CFV poster that blamed the refs for loosing either of those games. Take the L and keep moving. Greenwood has beat us at home on more than 1 occasion. PA has beat us at home. El Dorado has beat us at home. Those were all great teams.
you are living in the past.  Camden is pretty solid this year but nothing like past few years.  They are heading for a steep decline the next few years

Time will tell. Our kids always get better when they start playing high school ball. We don't put much stock in winning or losing Jr. high games. We put stock in getting them ready for high school football.

wildboy44

Quote from: Hoggy on November 17, 2014, 10:11:17 am
Quote from: wildboy44 on November 17, 2014, 09:31:20 am
Quote from: BigSportsman on November 17, 2014, 09:02:26 am
If the refs called the 2nd half like they called the first half it would have been a different ballgame.  When the home team is booing the refs when they come out of the tunnel after half time its amazing how they started calling a different game...not to mention a police escort off the field after the game.  I also find it VERY interesting that CF hasn't lost a HOME game since 2011 (things that make you go hhhmmmmm)! Both teams made mistakes but the game was called VERY differently after the half!  BTW, next time you might want to let them know that we go by HIGH SCHOOL rules during High School games, NOT College (Yes, a couple of them were playing by NCAA rules).

If you think the game against PA will be close then you are delusional, the only way CF is going to win is if you have the same refs from last week so they can "help you win". *wink wink nudge nudge*
Its not that we win all home games...we win period. We lost 1 game in 2011 to Greenwood. We didn't lose at all in 2012. We lost 2 games in 2013, Hope and Batesville. We have lost 3 games this year. That's 6 games since 2011. So we do go to other teams place and win also. The 1st half Harrison got the onside kicks which gave them  extra possessions. 2nd half we got those kicks. I watched offensive linemen block downfield on pass plays all night and the refs didn't call it once. We play this Friday against PA, your more than welcome to come cheer the Bruins on. Camden Fairview lost to El Dorado, Magnolia and Hot Springs....you wont find 1 CFV poster that blamed the refs for loosing either of those games. Take the L and keep moving. Greenwood has beat us at home on more than 1 occasion. PA has beat us at home. El Dorado has beat us at home. Those were all great teams.
you are living in the past.  Camden is pretty solid this year but nothing like past few years.  They are heading for a steep decline the next few years
I'm living right now...I know who we are and what we do...I just explained to the gentlemen that we just don't win at home. As of now there are 8 teams left in 5A football...Camden Fairview is one of the 8. Nothing more, Nothing less.

wing

Quote from: BigSportsman on November 17, 2014, 09:02:26 am
If the refs called the 2nd half like they called the first half it would have been a different ballgame.  When the home team is booing the refs when they come out of the tunnel after half time its amazing how they started calling a different game...not to mention a police escort off the field after the game. I also find it VERY interesting that CF hasn't lost a HOME game since 2011 (things that make you go hhhmmmmm)! Both teams made mistakes but the game was called VERY differently after the half!  BTW, next time you might want to let them know that we go by HIGH SCHOOL rules during High School games, NOT College (Yes, a couple of them were playing by NCAA rules).

If you think the game against PA will be close then you are delusional, the only way CF is going to win is if you have the same refs from last week so they can "help you win". *wink wink nudge nudge*

Do you think that it might have to do with CF being pretty good since 2011 (actually before that) Most of those games were mercy rule games anyway so I don't think the refs had much say. Friday night's game was a great game. Move on.

BigSportsman

Quote from: wing on November 17, 2014, 11:21:30 am
Quote from: BigSportsman on November 17, 2014, 09:02:26 am
If the refs called the 2nd half like they called the first half it would have been a different ballgame.  When the home team is booing the refs when they come out of the tunnel after half time its amazing how they started calling a different game...not to mention a police escort off the field after the game. I also find it VERY interesting that CF hasn't lost a HOME game since 2011 (things that make you go hhhmmmmm)! Both teams made mistakes but the game was called VERY differently after the half!  BTW, next time you might want to let them know that we go by HIGH SCHOOL rules during High School games, NOT College (Yes, a couple of them were playing by NCAA rules).

If you think the game against PA will be close then you are delusional, the only way CF is going to win is if you have the same refs from last week so they can "help you win". *wink wink nudge nudge*

Do you think that it might have to do with CF being pretty good since 2011 (actually before that) Most of those games were mercy rule games anyway so I don't think the refs had much say. Friday night's game was a great game. Move on.


If CF was undefeated for the last 3 years I could understand your logic.  But, your not so that doesn't make any sense. 

wing

Quote from: BigSportsman on November 17, 2014, 12:54:18 pm
Quote from: wing on November 17, 2014, 11:21:30 am
Quote from: BigSportsman on November 17, 2014, 09:02:26 am
If the refs called the 2nd half like they called the first half it would have been a different ballgame.  When the home team is booing the refs when they come out of the tunnel after half time its amazing how they started calling a different game...not to mention a police escort off the field after the game. I also find it VERY interesting that CF hasn't lost a HOME game since 2011 (things that make you go hhhmmmmm)! Both teams made mistakes but the game was called VERY differently after the half!  BTW, next time you might want to let them know that we go by HIGH SCHOOL rules during High School games, NOT College (Yes, a couple of them were playing by NCAA rules).

If you think the game against PA will be close then you are delusional, the only way CF is going to win is if you have the same refs from last week so they can "help you win". *wink wink nudge nudge*

Do you think that it might have to do with CF being pretty good since 2011 (actually before that) Most of those games were mercy rule games anyway so I don't think the refs had much say. Friday night's game was a great game. Move on.


If CF was undefeated for the last 3 years I could understand your logic.  But, your not so that doesn't make any sense.

Really? 32-5. 20-0 at home. 12-5 away. I last time I checked most people play better at home. Two away losses last year were by a combined total of 7 pts. to teams that went to the finals and semi-finals and this year the away losses were to Eldo (still in playoffs), Hot Springs (5A South Champs and still in the playoffs) and Magnolia ???. Harrison fans are the first to complain about refs and home field cooking at CF. Does the 5A west not play man coverage. Dude....Let it go. Go for a nice relaxing float on Crooked Creek. Love that creek by the way! 

Hoophawg

Quote from: Youngsta71701 on November 17, 2014, 10:36:51 am
Quote from: Hoggy on November 17, 2014, 10:11:17 am
Quote from: wildboy44 on November 17, 2014, 09:31:20 am
Quote from: BigSportsman on November 17, 2014, 09:02:26 am
If the refs called the 2nd half like they called the first half it would have been a different ballgame.  When the home team is booing the refs when they come out of the tunnel after half time its amazing how they started calling a different game...not to mention a police escort off the field after the game.  I also find it VERY interesting that CF hasn't lost a HOME game since 2011 (things that make you go hhhmmmmm)! Both teams made mistakes but the game was called VERY differently after the half!  BTW, next time you might want to let them know that we go by HIGH SCHOOL rules during High School games, NOT College (Yes, a couple of them were playing by NCAA rules).

If you think the game against PA will be close then you are delusional, the only way CF is going to win is if you have the same refs from last week so they can "help you win". *wink wink nudge nudge*
Its not that we win all home games...we win period. We lost 1 game in 2011 to Greenwood. We didn't lose at all in 2012. We lost 2 games in 2013, Hope and Batesville. We have lost 3 games this year. That's 6 games since 2011. So we do go to other teams place and win also. The 1st half Harrison got the onside kicks which gave them  extra possessions. 2nd half we got those kicks. I watched offensive linemen block downfield on pass plays all night and the refs didn't call it once. We play this Friday against PA, your more than welcome to come cheer the Bruins on. Camden Fairview lost to El Dorado, Magnolia and Hot Springs....you wont find 1 CFV poster that blamed the refs for loosing either of those games. Take the L and keep moving. Greenwood has beat us at home on more than 1 occasion. PA has beat us at home. El Dorado has beat us at home. Those were all great teams.
you are living in the past.  Camden is pretty solid this year but nothing like past few years.  They are heading for a steep decline the next few years

Time will tell. Our kids always get better when they start playing high school ball. We don't put much stock in winning or losing Jr. high games. We put stock in getting them ready for high school football.
how do you get em ready for high school?  If it's QB development you are screwed.

wing

Quote from: Hoophawg on November 17, 2014, 02:50:49 pm
Quote from: Youngsta71701 on November 17, 2014, 10:36:51 am
Quote from: Hoggy on November 17, 2014, 10:11:17 am
Quote from: wildboy44 on November 17, 2014, 09:31:20 am
Quote from: BigSportsman on November 17, 2014, 09:02:26 am
If the refs called the 2nd half like they called the first half it would have been a different ballgame.  When the home team is booing the refs when they come out of the tunnel after half time its amazing how they started calling a different game...not to mention a police escort off the field after the game.  I also find it VERY interesting that CF hasn't lost a HOME game since 2011 (things that make you go hhhmmmmm)! Both teams made mistakes but the game was called VERY differently after the half!  BTW, next time you might want to let them know that we go by HIGH SCHOOL rules during High School games, NOT College (Yes, a couple of them were playing by NCAA rules).

If you think the game against PA will be close then you are delusional, the only way CF is going to win is if you have the same refs from last week so they can "help you win". *wink wink nudge nudge*
Its not that we win all home games...we win period. We lost 1 game in 2011 to Greenwood. We didn't lose at all in 2012. We lost 2 games in 2013, Hope and Batesville. We have lost 3 games this year. That's 6 games since 2011. So we do go to other teams place and win also. The 1st half Harrison got the onside kicks which gave them  extra possessions. 2nd half we got those kicks. I watched offensive linemen block downfield on pass plays all night and the refs didn't call it once. We play this Friday against PA, your more than welcome to come cheer the Bruins on. Camden Fairview lost to El Dorado, Magnolia and Hot Springs....you wont find 1 CFV poster that blamed the refs for loosing either of those games. Take the L and keep moving. Greenwood has beat us at home on more than 1 occasion. PA has beat us at home. El Dorado has beat us at home. Those were all great teams.
you are living in the past.  Camden is pretty solid this year but nothing like past few years.  They are heading for a steep decline the next few years

Time will tell. Our kids always get better when they start playing high school ball. We don't put much stock in winning or losing Jr. high games. We put stock in getting them ready for high school football.
how do you get em ready for high school?  If it's QB development you are screwed.

Help me with this statement? Hoop I take it you are not a CF fan.

Youngsta71701

November 17, 2014, 03:20:19 pm #59 Last Edit: November 18, 2014, 08:48:17 am by Youngsta71701
Quote from: Hoophawg on November 17, 2014, 02:50:49 pm
Quote from: Youngsta71701 on November 17, 2014, 10:36:51 am
Quote from: Hoggy on November 17, 2014, 10:11:17 am
Quote from: wildboy44 on November 17, 2014, 09:31:20 am
Quote from: BigSportsman on November 17, 2014, 09:02:26 am
If the refs called the 2nd half like they called the first half it would have been a different ballgame.  When the home team is booing the refs when they come out of the tunnel after half time its amazing how they started calling a different game...not to mention a police escort off the field after the game.  I also find it VERY interesting that CF hasn't lost a HOME game since 2011 (things that make you go hhhmmmmm)! Both teams made mistakes but the game was called VERY differently after the half!  BTW, next time you might want to let them know that we go by HIGH SCHOOL rules during High School games, NOT College (Yes, a couple of them were playing by NCAA rules).

If you think the game against PA will be close then you are delusional, the only way CF is going to win is if you have the same refs from last week so they can "help you win". *wink wink nudge nudge*
Its not that we win all home games...we win period. We lost 1 game in 2011 to Greenwood. We didn't lose at all in 2012. We lost 2 games in 2013, Hope and Batesville. We have lost 3 games this year. That's 6 games since 2011. So we do go to other teams place and win also. The 1st half Harrison got the onside kicks which gave them  extra possessions. 2nd half we got those kicks. I watched offensive linemen block downfield on pass plays all night and the refs didn't call it once. We play this Friday against PA, your more than welcome to come cheer the Bruins on. Camden Fairview lost to El Dorado, Magnolia and Hot Springs....you wont find 1 CFV poster that blamed the refs for loosing either of those games. Take the L and keep moving. Greenwood has beat us at home on more than 1 occasion. PA has beat us at home. El Dorado has beat us at home. Those were all great teams.
you are living in the past.  Camden is pretty solid this year but nothing like past few years.  They are heading for a steep decline the next few years

Time will tell. Our kids always get better when they start playing high school ball. We don't put much stock in winning or losing Jr. high games. We put stock in getting them ready for high school football.
how do you get em ready for high school?  If it's QB development you are screwed.

This was our philosophy with the former staff. With this current staff I don't know yet. Ever wondered why our teams aren't that good in Junior High but when those same players get to High School the team is pretty good?

spongebob

Quote from: BigSportsman on November 17, 2014, 09:02:26 am
If the refs called the 2nd half like they called the first half it would have been a different ballgame.  When the home team is booing the refs when they come out of the tunnel after half time its amazing how they started calling a different game...not to mention a police escort off the field after the game.  I also find it VERY interesting that CF hasn't lost a HOME game since 2011 (things that make you go hhhmmmmm)! Both teams made mistakes but the game was called VERY differently after the half!  BTW, next time you might want to let them know that we go by HIGH SCHOOL rules during High School games, NOT College (Yes, a couple of them were playing by NCAA rules).

If you think the game against PA will be close then you are delusional, the only way CF is going to win is if you have the same refs from last week so they can "help you win". *wink wink nudge nudge*
CF did your basketball coach a favor. Now he can play with a full team Thursday night against Har-Ber. PA is going to beat 95% of the teams in the state. Maybe more! CF is just glad to be playing Friday night and have the opportunity to match up against a great team like PA. If they lose, so be it.

Intelligentsia

Go CF!!  While the opportunity to beat P.A. on their turf again would be nice, if we can get by a good Greenbrier team, I would prefer playing CF in the comfortable confines of Pioneer Stadium.  The last CF visit produced a dominate Batesville offensive line performance the first half followed by a near catastrophic set of miscues in the second half.  The win was sweet bu, it nearly led to heart failure for this Pioneer dad.  Regardless, P.A. vs C.F. is a great matchup - could be a classic!! 

razorcardsfan11

I'm a die hard cards fan but camden ain't near as good as they have been in the past. Gotta face the facts. I would have loved to have seen this game played a few years back, but this game will be over by half. PA will put the mercy rIle into effect. We were lucky to get past harrison. Cf 14 pa 56

oldballcoach

PA 41 Camden Fairview 13 - PA's offense too much but Cardinals speed gives them a few TDs. Home field gives PA big advantage.

Haven't seen PA play in person since the Warren game last year but PA always takes their game to another level in the playoffs. Does the PA #15 still play some QB? #15 beat Warren with his arm and legs.

Go Postal

As a Goblin fan, I would like to see a CF win.  Last week's game, Humphrey was not passing 100%, but that could also be to CFs defense.  It, was a good game.  Forget about the refs, that could be in any game.  It was a good game overall.  Moving on, Harrison was a good practice team for CF with onside kicks, long kicks, great QB for passing/rushing, rushing/receiving, interceptions, going on 4th down, special teams also running back for a TD/FGs/PATs and punts.  But CF is now to play a game with a experienced team over the years that has done the same but doesn't punt.

Good Luck to CF, watch out for the onside kicks, the long ball behind your DBs/safeties, the rushing and make sure you pressure the QB.  Make them punt. ;)

MDXPHD

CF will score more than 13-14 points.  PA gives other teams 50 yards to score..they give up their share of points.  If CF recovers onside kicks, this game will be very interesting.

wing

Quote from: spongebob on November 17, 2014, 04:53:04 pm
Quote from: BigSportsman on November 17, 2014, 09:02:26 am
If the refs called the 2nd half like they called the first half it would have been a different ballgame.  When the home team is booing the refs when they come out of the tunnel after half time its amazing how they started calling a different game...not to mention a police escort off the field after the game.  I also find it VERY interesting that CF hasn't lost a HOME game since 2011 (things that make you go hhhmmmmm)! Both teams made mistakes but the game was called VERY differently after the half!  BTW, next time you might want to let them know that we go by HIGH SCHOOL rules during High School games, NOT College (Yes, a couple of them were playing by NCAA rules).

If you think the game against PA will be close then you are delusional, the only way CF is going to win is if you have the same refs from last week so they can "help you win". *wink wink nudge nudge*
CF did your basketball coach a favor. Now he can play with a full team Thursday night against Har-Ber. PA is going to beat 95% of the teams in the state. Maybe more! CF is just glad to be playing Friday night and have the opportunity to match up against a great team like PA. If they lose, so be it.

+1 Sponge!

wing

Quote from: MDXPHD on November 18, 2014, 01:34:01 am
CF will score more than 13-14 points.  PA gives other teams 50 yards to score..they give up their share of points.  If CF recovers onside kicks, this game will be very interesting.

This will be the key to this game. If CF can recover the OSK's it could be an interesting game. It also would be interesting if someone knew what % of OSK's PA recovers. Got to be over 50%. I think CF will score our share of points but I just don't think we can match them. Hope I'm wrong. PA 49 CF 34.

Overdahill

I don't know about this year but over the long haul it's more like 1 out of 4 I believe. I'm guessing that the 4th down conversion rate is much higher

wing

Quote from: Overdahill on November 18, 2014, 06:35:49 am
I don't know about this year but over the long haul it's more like 1 out of 4 I believe. I'm guessing that the 4th down conversion rate is much higher

Maybe it's lower than I thought. I think if read where it's not about how many they recover, its the fact that they only average giving up 15-20 yds so taking the chance if worth it.

Overdahill

When you score on most possessions it can be a game changer

MDXPHD

Quote from: wing on November 18, 2014, 06:44:39 am
Quote from: Overdahill on November 18, 2014, 06:35:49 am
I don't know about this year but over the long haul it's more like 1 out of 4 I believe. I'm guessing that the 4th down conversion rate is much higher

Maybe it's lower than I thought. I think if read where it's not about how many they recover, its the fact that they only average giving up 15-20 yds so taking the chance if worth it.

If they had a kicker that can kick into the endzone, that math doesn't add up at all. 

There is a theory to everything, but when PA meets a team that recovers the kicks and stops them on just a couple of fourth downs, then they give the game away.  It usually happens about now or next week when they play a good team.

Overdahill

Sometimes you dont execute your gameplan well and the other team does theirs and you get beat; but it doesn't mean you gave the game away

incogneto

That talent isn't always assured to be there.  It will be at the school but it won't always be on the field. 

Maynard G Krebs

November 18, 2014, 08:35:17 am #74 Last Edit: November 18, 2014, 08:40:26 am by Maynard G Krebs
Quote from: MDXPHD on November 18, 2014, 08:17:06 am
Quote from: wing on November 18, 2014, 06:44:39 am
Quote from: Overdahill on November 18, 2014, 06:35:49 am
I don't know about this year but over the long haul it's more like 1 out of 4 I believe. I'm guessing that the 4th down conversion rate is much higher

Maybe it's lower than I thought. I think if read where it's not about how many they recover, its the fact that they only average giving up 15-20 yds so taking the chance if worth it.
k

If they had a kicker that can kick into the endzone, that math doesn't add up at all. 

There is a theory to everything, but when PA meets a team that recovers the kicks and stops them on just a couple of fourth downs, then they give the game away.  It usually happens about now or next week when they play a good team.

The kicker for PA consistently puts the ball in the end zone when they opt out of the onside kick scheme.  This season, after a mercy rule margin, PA ceases the onside kick.  BTW, the kicker is getting interest from D1 schools, including some SEC members.

MDXPHD

Quote from: Overdahill on November 18, 2014, 08:21:09 am
Sometimes you dont execute your gameplan well and the other team does theirs and you get beat; but it doesn't mean you gave the game away

You don't execute it because the other team prevents it.  You give the other team 40-50 yards to score every time you give them the ball.  Odds are, they will score tds on those or get some points on the board every time they touch it if they have a decent offense.  I agree, mathematically, with why Kelly does it.  Unless they have a true kicker or punter. 

What quality team has PA beaten in the last 3 years in 5A? They haven't, because the quality of play goes up drastically in the quarter and semi finals.  Teams that can play football are there.

MDXPHD

November 18, 2014, 08:42:12 am #76 Last Edit: November 18, 2014, 08:47:06 am by MDXPHD
Quote from: Maynard G Krebs on November 18, 2014, 08:35:17 am
Quote from: MDXPHD on November 18, 2014, 08:17:06 am
Quote from: wing on November 18, 2014, 06:44:39 am
Quote from: Overdahill on November 18, 2014, 06:35:49 am
I don't know about this year but over the long haul it's more like 1 out of 4 I believe. I'm guessing that the 4th down conversion rate is much higher

Maybe it's lower than I thought. I think if read where it's not about how many they recover, its the fact that they only average giving up 15-20 yds so taking the chance if worth it.
k

If they had a kicker that can kick into the endzone, that math doesn't add up at all. 

There is a theory to everything, but when PA meets a team that recovers the kicks and stops them on just a couple of fourth downs, then they give the game away.  It usually happens about now or next week when they play a good team.

The kicker for PA consistently puts the ball in the end zone when they opt out of the onside kick scheme.  This season, after a mercy rule margin, PA ceases the onside kick.  BTW, the kicker is getting interest from D1 schools, including some SEC members.

I understand you do onside kicks because the "average starting position in high school football" is wherever.  But if the opponents average starting position is at the 20, what's the point? I guess you get a couple more possessions if you recover them, but when you don't, you pretty much lose the game just because you were onside kicking.  We have seen it the last two years with PA. This is the same story.

Youngsta71701

November 18, 2014, 08:51:03 am #77 Last Edit: November 18, 2014, 01:36:07 pm by Youngsta71701
Quote from: oldballcoach on November 17, 2014, 10:48:29 pm
PA 41 Camden Fairview 13 - PA's offense too much but Cardinals speed gives them a few TDs. Home field gives PA big advantage.

Haven't seen PA play in person since the Warren game last year but PA always takes their game to another level in the playoffs. Does the PA #15 still play some QB? #15 beat Warren with his arm and legs.

Is this why they haven't won a championship in a few years ???

Overdahill

Quote from: MDXPHD on November 18, 2014, 08:40:25 am
Quote from: Overdahill on November 18, 2014, 08:21:09 am
Sometimes you dont execute your gameplan well and the other team does theirs and you get beat; but it doesn't mean you gave the game away

You don't execute it because the other team prevents it.  You give the other team 40-50 yards to score every time you give them the ball.  Odds are, they will score tds on those or get some points on the board every time they touch it if they have a decent offense.  I agree, mathematically, with why Kelly does it.  Unless they have a true kicker or punter. 

What quality team has PA beaten in the last 3 years in 5A? They haven't, because the quality of play goes up drastically in the quarter and semi finals.  Teams that can play football are there.

Ok so last year they lost by 7 to eventual state champs morrilton. The year b4 that a bad loss to a good batesville team. They year b4 that went 14-0 albeit in 4A but beat higher classification schools as well. In 5a they are 2-0 vs CFV and 2-2 vs Greenwood. You don't always win but they do beat good teams with their scheme

MDXPHD

This could very well be their year. A matchup with a team as disciplined as Batesville will be interesting. 

pantherblue

They aren't playing Batesville quite yet!  ;)

Rockhounds x2

Go Postal:
As a Goblin fan, I would like to see a CF win.  Last week's game, Humphrey was not passing 100%, but that could also be to CFs defense.  It, was a good game.  Forget about the refs, that could be in any game.  It was a good game overall.  Moving on, Harrison was a good practice team for CF with onside kicks, long kicks, great QB for passing/rushing, rushing/receiving, interceptions, going on 4th down, special teams also running back for a TD/FGs/PATs and punts.  But CF is now to play a game with a experienced team over the years that has done the same but doesn't punt.

Good Luck to CF, watch out for the onside kicks, the long ball behind your DBs/safeties, the rushing and make sure you pressure the QB.  Make them punt. ;)

Postal I'm pretty sure the passing game was up to snuff!  There were very few bad throws!
30-56 340yds and 6TD's against no int's I'm pretty sure PA will take those numbers they woulda been better had it not been for the press coverage in the second half not sure what coverage they played in the first half but it looked like the same minus the holding and mugging!

Temprees

Quote from: Rockhounds x2 on November 18, 2014, 10:06:47 am
Go Postal:
As a Goblin fan, I would like to see a CF win.  Last week's game, Humphrey was not passing 100%, but that could also be to CFs defense.  It, was a good game.  Forget about the refs, that could be in any game.  It was a good game overall.  Moving on, Harrison was a good practice team for CF with onside kicks, long kicks, great QB for passing/rushing, rushing/receiving, interceptions, going on 4th down, special teams also running back for a TD/FGs/PATs and punts.  But CF is now to play a game with a experienced team over the years that has done the same but doesn't punt.

Good Luck to CF, watch out for the onside kicks, the long ball behind your DBs/safeties, the rushing and make sure you pressure the QB.  Make them punt. ;)

Postal I'm pretty sure the passing game was up to snuff!  There were very few bad throws!
30-56 340yds and 6TD's against no int's I'm pretty sure PA will take those numbers they woulda been better had it not been for the press coverage in the second half not sure what coverage they played in the first half but it looked like the same minus the holding and mugging!
CF did a lot differently in the 2nd half.  It was more than press coverage. 

war cardinals

I dnt think we've ever beat PA have we? 2006 2nd rnd of playoffs they beat us and when they came to our conference i believe they beat us both times before moving on ??

razorcardsfan11

Quote from: war cardinals on November 18, 2014, 01:32:00 pm
I dnt think we've ever beat PA have we? 2006 2nd rnd of playoffs they beat us and when they came to our conference i believe they beat us both times before moving on ??
camden fairview is 0-3 against pulaski academy

PercussionMan

High scoring offenses can keep up with PA because of the short field and their usual lack of strong defense...recover ALL of the onside kicks (or stop them when you don't)...get ahead by 2-3 scores...make a few defensive stops (especially deep in their own territory, and they WILL punt, although not much)...keep the pedal down for four quarters, and you win.  If behind by 2-3 scores, they might close the gap late and make a last ditch effort to tie, but sound defense can stop that...10 yards at a time (you know you have to stop them on 4th down).  Another thing...Morrilton had very strong fan support last year (as always).  Our fans packed the stands on the road and were loud the whole game (even at PA, despite the cold and rain all day and night).  I'm thinking this game is worth the trip to watch, if it's not too cold for me. 

MDXPHD

Quote from: PercussionMan on November 18, 2014, 04:51:55 pm
High scoring offenses can keep up with PA because of the short field and their usual lack of strong defense...recover ALL of the onside kicks (or stop them when you don't)...get ahead by 2-3 scores...make a few defensive stops (especially deep in their own territory, and they WILL punt, although not much)...keep the pedal down for four quarters, and you win.  If behind by 2-3 scores, they might close the gap late and make a last ditch effort to tie, but sound defense can stop that...10 yards at a time (you know you have to stop them on 4th down).  Another thing...Morrilton had very strong fan support last year (as always).  Our fans packed the stands on the road and were loud the whole game (even at PA, despite the cold and rain all day and night).  I'm thinking this game is worth the trip to watch, if it's not too cold for me.

I can't decide between this game and the Maumelle/Wynne game! I'm leaning toward Maumelle because I think I'll get to go to PA next Friday night.

Rockhounds x2

As a Goblin fan, I would like to see a CF win.  Last week's game, Humphrey was not passing 100%, but that could also be to CFs defense.  It, was a good game.  Forget about the refs, that could be in any game.  It was a good game overall.  Moving on, Harrison was a good practice team for CF with onside kicks, long kicks, great QB for passing/rushing, rushing/receiving, interceptions, going on 4th down, special teams also running back for a TD/FGs/PATs and punts.  But CF is now to play a game with a experienced team over the years that has done the same but doesn't punt.

Good Luck to CF, watch out for the onside kicks, the long ball behind your DBs/safeties, the rushing and make sure you pressure the QB.  Make them punt. ;)

Postal I'm pretty sure the passing game was up to snuff!  There were very few bad throws!
30-56 340yds and 6TD's against no int's I'm pretty sure PA will take those numbers they woulda been better had it not been for the press coverage in the second half not sure what coverage they played in the first half but it looked like the same minus the holding and mugging!

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CF did a lot differently in the 2nd half.  It was more than press coverage.

That's what I said!!

#1jacketfan

Quote from: wing on November 18, 2014, 06:23:48 am
Quote from: MDXPHD on November 18, 2014, 01:34:01 am
CF will score more than 13-14 points.  PA gives other teams 50 yards to score..they give up their share of points.  If CF recovers onside kicks, this game will be very interesting.

This will be the key to this game. If CF can recover the OSK's it could be an interesting game. It also would be interesting if someone knew what % of OSK's PA recovers. Got to be over 50%. I think CF will score our share of points but I just don't think we can match them. Hope I'm wrong. PA 49 CF 34.
Thats how Morrilton beat them last year.....covering OSK's

InYoGrill


Uncle Ivan

Quote from: MDXPHD on November 18, 2014, 05:47:06 pm
I'm leaning toward Maumelle because I think I'll get to go to PA next Friday night.

You probably will, besides, the only other game that night will be in Wynne.

Hoghead

No Punt Tech 56
Camden Fairview 28

No Punt Tech will recover 6 onside kicks in this game !

wing

Quote from: Hoghead on November 18, 2014, 11:49:35 pm
No Punt Tech 56
Camden Fairview 28

No Punt Tech will recover 6 onside kicks in this game !

If they recover 6, you are being very generous HH. Unless you are saying CF scores 21 after the mercy rule goes into effect. Changes that our coaching staff made  ;) in the second half of the Harrison game make me feel a little better. Harrison is no PA, but they are a very well coached team. I still don't think CF will win, but this could be a fun game to watch. Just glad to still be playing. Go Birds!

Overdahill

Last week all the higher seeds won. This week I believe all the 2 seeds have a pretty fair chance of winning. Should be a fun night

spongebob

Quote from: Overdahill on November 19, 2014, 08:03:58 am
Last week all the higher seeds won. This week I believe all the 2 seeds have a pretty fair chance of winning. Should be a fun night
Yep. Especially if you like sitting in the rain watching football. Has PA played in the rain this year yet with that high powered passing offense?

wing

Quote from: spongebob on November 19, 2014, 08:42:50 am
Quote from: Overdahill on November 19, 2014, 08:03:58 am
Last week all the higher seeds won. This week I believe all the 2 seeds have a pretty fair chance of winning. Should be a fun night
Yep. Especially if you like sitting in the rain watching football. Has PA played in the rain this year yet with that high powered passing offense?

Rain may help the birds and the hogs this weekend.

spongebob

Quote from: wing on November 19, 2014, 08:50:16 am
Quote from: spongebob on November 19, 2014, 08:42:50 am
Quote from: Overdahill on November 19, 2014, 08:03:58 am
Last week all the higher seeds won. This week I believe all the 2 seeds have a pretty fair chance of winning. Should be a fun night
Yep. Especially if you like sitting in the rain watching football. Has PA played in the rain this year yet with that high powered passing offense?

Rain may help the birds and the hogs this weekend.
Agree. At least it won't be muddy!

Overdahill

Just rain is traditionally a non issue. If rain, cold and windy combo it might have some effect

SWAT524


RamAlum10

People that have PA as a 28 point favorite are DELUSIONAL!

This is High School football we are talking about here.  Remember when PA was favored by 14 against Batesville, and had arguably one of the most unstoppable WR (H Henry) in Arkansas history?  And lost by 19??  Yes, Camden is somewhat "down" this year, but this team can beat anyone in the state.  Have a few balls bounce your way, combined with CF speed, elusiveness, and athleticism, this could very well be an "upset".  I think the Hootens Homers (PA fans) are a little out of their mind.  I think CF wins this game in a low scoring game (at least for PA standards) 42-40.  CF proved they can score quick and often last week against Harrison (Who probably has just as good as a defense as PA).  We will see come Friday, but if you are betting the house on some high school kids, you got a rude awakening coming.

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