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Analysis of your team's prospects for next year

Started by PA Dad, December 07, 2014, 08:25:29 pm

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smurf

Yes there is an excellent running back by the name of RJ Anderson...that team is 73-0...I am telling you that this kid is the truth...break away speed, super vision, just an all around super back. The most talked about player on that 9th grade team!!!

MDXPHD

Quote from: smurf on December 09, 2014, 07:16:56 pm
Yes there is an excellent running back by the name of RJ Anderson...that team is 73-0...I am telling you that this kid is the truth...break away speed, super vision, just an all around super back. The most talked about player on that 9th grade team!!!

Looks like RJ just found out about fearless......

Lionheart88

I hate to say it, but I expect White Hall to be down some next year.  The whole backfield, most of the receivers, and 4 of 5 starting linemen are all graduating IIRC.  Not much better on defense, where I believe that only the linebacking group will return most of their playing time.  Even our kicking specialist is graduating.  Several of these guys are three year starters.  We return our Center, some receivers that saw time in certain formations, other than that I'm not sure about offensive returners.  The backup kicker is a heck of a soccer player, has an artillery piece for a right leg, but I doubt he's as good as the one we're losing.  It seems like our OL is mostly seniors every year, they always reload with guys who've been backups until their senior year and do ok.  I don't know who'll be in the backfield next year, our QB and both the RBs that saw a lot of time are all seniors.  On Defense, we return a couple of good LBs....and not much else.  Don't get me wrong, I'm sure there were some guys who got some minutes at DB or on the D-line, but they weren't the impact guys.  Gonna have to have some young guns step up in a big way if we're to be any good next year.  I've got faith that they'll answer the call, but I'm still going to be nervous until I see two or three games.

smurf

Looks like you will find out about RJ....I would have no reason to hype up a player...his skills will be seen!!!

PA Dad

I should have gone to some ninth-grade games this year. I'll be anxious to see him next year.

smurf

PA Dad ask some nineth grade PA football players parents or ask some highschool PA football parents about this kid!! I will go a step further and say ask the players about this kid...I think he is as good as any running back they have, but that is just my opinion from watching him..but that was on the nineth grade level. He has been the same runner since the sixth grade. Coach Kelley has went as far to say that this nineth grade team may be the best that he has ever had.

PA Dad

I knew the 9th graders had a long winning streak and I know they were good.  I just don't know anything about the players except Hatcher.

smurf

I will leave it at that.... ;)..that is perfectly understandable!!! There are quite a few EXCELLENT players on that team...Isiah Woods at tackle, Trajen a 6'2 reciever, Jimmy Noel is a beast at linebacker, Crocket, Walton, Jones...and all of these players can step in and do quite well starting with the highschool team. This is a serious team...they have been challenged about 4-5 times in 73 games. They are the only team to win all of the Championships that they have competed for while playing.

smurf

PA Dad I want to ask one question...Hope this is not offensive but how is it that you only know about Hatcher and not anyone else on that nineth grade team...

PA Dad


smurf

Ok, Thanks I hope that was not getting to personal...I just know the kids I named got some wash up time in the games at the end of the year and also in the playoffs.

Lionheart88

Is he any relation to the Hatcher ladies that play soccer for OBU and Harding?

Lionheart88

Quote from: smurf on December 09, 2014, 09:05:54 pm
I will leave it at that.... ;)..that is perfectly understandable!!! There are quite a few EXCELLENT players on that team...Isiah Woods at tackle, Trajen a 6'2 reciever, Jimmy Noel is a beast at linebacker, Crocket, Walton, Jones...and all of these players can step in and do quite well starting with the highschool team. This is a serious team...they have been challenged about 4-5 times in 73 games. They are the only team to win all of the Championships that they have competed for while playing.
73 games?  What, are you counting 2nd grade peewee league or something?

smurf

No sir I am counting from the 5th grade until the nineth grade including playoffs sir...Yes they are that good...PA is here to stay for a few years...No need to count peewee but you may not understand PA football. That is counting two years without Layne Hatcher(8th and 9th grade). No need to add numbers to that team...as a matter of fact go to Sheldon Smiths page on FB and you will see there is no need to lie. They have someone to replace there seniors so get ready for next year.

MDXPHD

Quote from: Lionheart88 on December 09, 2014, 09:37:34 pm
Is he any relation to the Hatcher ladies that play soccer for OBU and Harding?

And the other Hatcher girl that played basketball with Zachariason (Not sure how you spell her name).  The girls went to CAC, I believe I heard the boy went to PA.  I hear he's a good soccer player as well.

smurf

Quote from: smurf on December 09, 2014, 09:56:50 pm
No sir I am counting from the 5th grade until the nineth grade including playoffs sir...Yes they are that good...PA is here to stay for a few years...No need to count peewee but you may not understand PA football. That is counting two years without Layne Hatcher(8th and 9th grade). No need to add numbers to that team...as a matter of fact go to Sheldon Smiths page on FB and you will see there is no need to lie. They have someone to replace there seniors so get ready for next year.
The Great Vince Lombardi one said: Winning is not a sometime thing; It's an all time thing. You don't win once in a while, you don't do things right once in a while, you do them right all the time. Winning is a habbit, Unfortunately, so is loosing

Lionheart88

Quote from: smurf on December 09, 2014, 09:56:50 pm
No sir I am counting from the 5th grade until the nineth grade including playoffs sir...Yes they are that good...PA is here to stay for a few years...No need to count peewee but you may not understand PA football. That is counting two years without Layne Hatcher(8th and 9th grade). No need to add numbers to that team...as a matter of fact go to Sheldon Smiths page on FB and you will see there is no need to lie. They have someone to replace there seniors so get ready for next year.
Ah, I thought you were counting one class, not two.  But even so, fifth grade isn't much better than 2nd.  Any league pre-8th grade isn't really important, and plenty of great middle school/junior high teams turn into let-downs in high school.  Just ask Watson Chapel.

smurf

No need to argue the point...Like I said Kevin Kelley said this is probably the best team he has ever had(the coach). They played Watson Chapel...White Hall(your alumni) in the 8th and 9th grade..big athletic kids but in the end, same result a blowout! They are born winners...they study the tape!!! Only time will tell, but I put my money on PA. I have seen these kids play and I have yet to see any 9th grade team that can play with them. The talk when they stepped on the field was I hope that this team challenges these kids so we can see there character. They were down twice at half time but the end result was the mercy rule.

Burks


smurf

They were until this point...I am not the person that made that statement..the person that coached that team made that point so the arguement would be with Coach Kelley..

Jayepea

December 09, 2014, 11:39:05 pm #70 Last Edit: December 09, 2014, 11:44:06 pm by Jayepea
It's different when you have to play running back against men that have by law signed up for civil service (i.e. the draft). Or maybe even have kids of their own. This kid may be a world beater, but I bet it won't be next year. He'll prob. at best catch screen passes & run like a scared rabbit.

VVBlazer

Valley View RB's for next year: Jagger Cornelius and Gannon Winstead. Jagger has a very flashy running style, very quick,  gets extra yards after contact, and was VV's only big play threat this year. Unfortunately, he fumbled a few times and had limited touches. I will have to check the stats, but I believe he led the team in touchdowns. It is my opinion that a high school team should always have a "feature" RB in order to be successful. Jagger could be that back if they would just feed him the ball. Gannon was also good, more of a power runner as he lined up at QB and ran it up the gut. VV used 7 different RB's this year and I feel no back ever had a chance to find a rhythm as almost every possession changed up personnel in a variety of different formations. I hope that changes next year and we get some consistency.

#1jacketfan

Quote from: smurf on December 09, 2014, 10:21:31 pm
No need to argue the point...Like I said Kevin Kelley said this is probably the best team he has ever had(the coach). They played Watson Chapel...White Hall(your alumni) in the 8th and 9th grade..big athletic kids but in the end, same result a blowout! They are born winners...they study the tape!!! Only time will tell, but I put my money on PA. I have seen these kids play and I have yet to see any 9th grade team that can play with them. The talk when they stepped on the field was I hope that this team challenges these kids so we can see there character. They were down twice at half time but the end result was the mercy rule.
It appears that a lot of people have put money on them....lol

Blazer51

Quote from: VVBlazer on December 10, 2014, 08:36:50 am
Valley View RB's for next year: Jagger Cornelius and Gannon Winstead. Jagger has a very flashy running style, very quick,  gets extra yards after contact, and was VV's only big play threat this year. Unfortunately, he fumbled a few times and had limited touches. I will have to check the stats, but I believe he led the team in touchdowns. It is my opinion that a high school team should always have a "feature" RB in order to be successful. Jagger could be that back if they would just feed him the ball. Gannon was also good, more of a power runner as he lined up at QB and ran it up the gut. VV used 7 different RB's this year and I feel no back ever had a chance to find a rhythm as almost every possession changed up personnel in a variety of different formations. I hope that changes next year and we get some consistency.

From what I saw I beliebe Gannon will be the better back and the go to back. Was he not hurt for 4 weeks this year and didn't get to play?

VVBlazer

^^^Yes, he missed 4 weeks with a knee injury. Gannon is a really tough, hard nose runner. Jagger is 6' and 190lbs with a lot of quickness. Most of his touchdowns coming from big runs. It would be interesting to see what his yards per carry was. I just thought Jagger showed the most talent when he carried the ball.

Hoophawg

Quote from: smurf on December 09, 2014, 10:21:31 pm
No need to argue the point...Like I said Kevin Kelley said this is probably the best team he has ever had(the coach). They played Watson Chapel...White Hall(your alumni) in the 8th and 9th grade..big athletic kids but in the end, same result a blowout! They are born winners...they study the tape!!! Only time will tell, but I put my money on PA. I have seen these kids play and I have yet to see any 9th grade team that can play with them. The talk when they stepped on the field was I hope that this team challenges these kids so we can see there character. They were down twice at half time but the end result was the mercy rule.
born winners give me a freakin break man.  Get off their sack

Lionheart88

Considering tuition, odds are good that if you're at PA you won the genetic lottery, so I can see that.

smurf

Get off their sack...blah, blah, blah...I detect that someone may be a little jeaulous...I think we were talking about the prospects of next year...put your feelings in your pocket. That's my opinion...what about your's?

smurf

I thought the object of the game was to run...it doesn't matter how you run...running like a scary cat...the object is to score!!! From what I have seen he has been running the same way...oh and to be honest he picked up more yards against PA's varsity than any back they played against ALL year and that was with the nineth grade team.

FD4

Should be very interesting next season in Wynne.  The offense will have one of the best backfields in the state at RB.  Only thing is, will Coach elect to stay with a one back or sometimes put in a version of a split back shotgun set up.  If the RB from the 9th grade squad is healed up right and can go in the fall, most of everyone will see a man beast in the making.  Both Dixon and Isom will be much better.  Q will be in the mix as well and may develop into a key defensive player before its over.  Got to wait and see, but the young 10th grade QB from the JR High team will be a threat to run if put in the mix as well.  Gotta replace a lot of SR's.  Gotta develop some more corn fed linemen.  Cant wait.

PercussionMan

Quote from: smurf on December 09, 2014, 06:11:39 pm
For those that don't know PA has a special group of running backs for the next 3 years! You all will hear a lot more about there back field than normal! They will still have a great passing attack with Bruce but the running game will not take 3 to 4 years from now but it is now in the present.

If Bruce is any good at passing at all, he looks like he'll be a great dual threat...that guy can flat out elude people and sprint past them!

PA Dad

Quote from: FD4 on December 10, 2014, 04:36:24 pm
Should be very interesting next season in Wynne.  The offense will have one of the best backfields in the state at RB.  Only thing is, will Coach elect to stay with a one back or sometimes put in a version of a split back shotgun set up.  If the RB from the 9th grade squad is healed up right and can go in the fall, most of everyone will see a man beast in the making.  Both Dixon and Isom will be much better.  Q will be in the mix as well and may develop into a key defensive player before its over.  Got to wait and see, but the young 10th grade QB from the JR High team will be a threat to run if put in the mix as well.  Gotta replace a lot of SR's.  Gotta develop some more corn fed linemen.  Cant wait.

Sounds like Wynne  will be loaded in the backfield.  What else is new?  Wynne seems to be loaded every year.

I fully expect that Wynne will be in the hunt for the championship next year.

Freight Train

Quote from: smurf on December 09, 2014, 10:21:31 pm
No need to argue the point...Like I said Kevin Kelley said this is probably the best team he has ever had(the coach). They played Watson Chapel...White Hall(your alumni) in the 8th and 9th grade..big athletic kids but in the end, same result a blowout! They are born winners...they study the tape!!! Only time will tell, but I put my money on PA. I have seen these kids play and I have yet to see any 9th grade team that can play with them. The talk when they stepped on the field was I hope that this team challenges these kids so we can see there character. They were down twice at half time but the end result was the mercy rule.
Coach Kelley has said that about a lot of PA teams "best ever, etc". It's rhetoric. The best PA team is 2011 which went 14-0 and was declared #1 team in the whole state as a 4A team (unheard of). The team had quite a few D1 players with Knighten and Henry being the superstars. Both of those guys have been all stars in college too.

smurf

Not here to argue about Bar Nones and Freddy and Hunter but just like they had there chance this nineth grade team has as good a chance as any team before it to be the best.  No he does not say that about all of his team I have heard him talk about the teams he has now and he does not put them all on that pedestal! From my listening to him he actually tells the players about how he thinks they fare against other teams he has had....maybe he told you all that lie. We were talking about the prospects of teams and I saw a quote and responded to the running back comment(they should have some good backs in the next 3 years)! I stated my opinion from seeing these guys first hand and it has started a heated debate about teams and running backs. Time will tell...slow down man..no one really knows...that's why they call it your opinion!!!!!!!!!!!

PA Dad

I agree that the 2011 team was Kelley's best.  But that doesn't mean he can't have a better one in 2-3 years.

Some folks here have said the 2011 had five D-1 players.  I remember only 3 - Knighten, Henry and an offensive lineman named King who went to Purdue.   Who were the others?

Maynard G Krebs

Quote from: PA Dad on December 10, 2014, 09:05:41 pm
I agree that the 2011 team was Kelley's best.  But that doesn't mean he can't have a better one in 2-3 years.

Some folks here have said the 2011 had five D-1 players.  I remember only 3 - Knighten, Henry and an offensive lineman named King who went to Purdue.   Who were the others?

Aum'arie Wallace, DB--UCA
Tyler Colquitt, LB/RB--UA
Matt Kolb, OL--UA

PA Dad


football nut

Quote from: Maynard G Krebs on December 10, 2014, 09:33:51 pm
Quote from: PA Dad on December 10, 2014, 09:05:41 pm
I agree that the 2011 team was Kelley's best.  But that doesn't mean he can't have a better one in 2-3 years.

Some folks here have said the 2011 had five D-1 players.  I remember only 3 - Knighten, Henry and an offensive lineman named King who went to Purdue.   Who were the others?

Aum'arie Wallace, DB--UCA
Tyler Colquitt, LB/RB--UA
Matt Kolb, OL--UA
Jeremy Brady DB--Tulsa

PA Dad

Quote from: football nut on December 10, 2014, 10:00:59 pm
Quote from: Maynard G Krebs on December 10, 2014, 09:33:51 pm
Quote from: PA Dad on December 10, 2014, 09:05:41 pm
I agree that the 2011 team was Kelley's best.  But that doesn't mean he can't have a better one in 2-3 years.

Some folks here have said the 2011 had five D-1 players.  I remember only 3 - Knighten, Henry and an offensive lineman named King who went to Purdue.   Who were the others?

Aum'arie Wallace, DB--UCA
Tyler Colquitt, LB/RB--UA
Matt Kolb, OL--UA
Jeremy Brady DB--Tulsa

7 players to D-1 is pretty amazing.

hogrock

Quote from: Maynard G Krebs on December 10, 2014, 09:33:51 pm
Quote from: PA Dad on December 10, 2014, 09:05:41 pm
I agree that the 2011 team was Kelley's best.  But that doesn't mean he can't have a better one in 2-3 years.

Some folks here have said the 2011 had five D-1 players.  I remember only 3 - Knighten, Henry and an offensive lineman named King who went to Purdue.   Who were the others?

Aum'arie Wallace, DB--UCA
Tyler Colquitt, LB/RB--UA
Matt Kolb, OL--UA

Quote from: football nut on December 10, 2014, 10:00:59 pm
Quote from: Maynard G Krebs on December 10, 2014, 09:33:51 pm
Quote from: PA Dad on December 10, 2014, 09:05:41 pm
I agree that the 2011 team was Kelley's best.  But that doesn't mean he can't have a better one in 2-3 years.

Some folks here have said the 2011 had five D-1 players.  I remember only 3 - Knighten, Henry and an offensive lineman named King who went to Purdue.   Who were the others?

Aum'arie Wallace, DB--UCA
Tyler Colquitt, LB/RB--UA
Matt Kolb, OL--UA
Jeremy Brady DB--Tulsa

Also, Cameron Colbert - WR, UA. He was a soph on the 2011 team.

Hoophawg

Y'all are saying all these kids playing d1 for the hogs and I've only heard of the Colquitt kid.  Are these walkons or something?  I wouldn't consider a walkon a D1 player unless they ever play

Youngsta71701

Quote from: Freight Train on December 10, 2014, 08:00:45 pm
Quote from: smurf on December 09, 2014, 10:21:31 pm
No need to argue the point...Like I said Kevin Kelley said this is probably the best team he has ever had(the coach). They played Watson Chapel...White Hall(your alumni) in the 8th and 9th grade..big athletic kids but in the end, same result a blowout! They are born winners...they study the tape!!! Only time will tell, but I put my money on PA. I have seen these kids play and I have yet to see any 9th grade team that can play with them. The talk when they stepped on the field was I hope that this team challenges these kids so we can see there character. They were down twice at half time but the end result was the mercy rule.
Coach Kelley has said that about a lot of PA teams "best ever, etc". It's rhetoric. The best PA team is 2011 which went 14-0 and was declared #1 team in the whole state as a 4A team (unheard of). The team had quite a few D1 players with Knighten and Henry being the superstars. Both of those guys have been all stars in college too.

Maybe that's because he's had a lot of good teams... ???

Intelligentsia

Something to see schools with multiple D1 players in one year and a steady stream of players at that level every year!  This information makes Pioneer Coach Dave King and staff look even more impressive.  I can only recall that the Pioneers have had two D1 players TOTAL the past 15 years, and one of those was a walk-on who earned a special teams spot after 3 years on the "scout" team.  I'm not sure that we have had even had a half dozen more who played past high school at a small college.  3 D1 players on the same roster, unimaginable !!

MDXPHD

Quote from: PA Dad on December 10, 2014, 10:06:01 pm
Quote from: football nut on December 10, 2014, 10:00:59 pm
Quote from: Maynard G Krebs on December 10, 2014, 09:33:51 pm
Quote from: PA Dad on December 10, 2014, 09:05:41 pm
I agree that the 2011 team was Kelley's best.  But that doesn't mean he can't have a better one in 2-3 years.

Some folks here have said the 2011 had five D-1 players.  I remember only 3 - Knighten, Henry and an offensive lineman named King who went to Purdue.   Who were the others?

Aum'arie Wallace, DB--UCA
Tyler Colquitt, LB/RB--UA
Matt Kolb, OL--UA
Jeremy Brady DB--Tulsa

7 players to D-1 is pretty amazing.

They don't have athletes like the public schools though.  ::)

PA Dad

Quote from: Intelligentsia on December 11, 2014, 09:24:31 am
Something to see schools with multiple D1 players in one year and a steady stream of players at that level every year!  This information makes Pioneer Coach Dave King and staff look even more impressive.  I can only recall that the Pioneers have had two D1 players TOTAL the past 15 years, and one of those was a walk-on who earned a special teams spot after 3 years on the "scout" team.  I'm not sure that we have had even had a half dozen more who played past high school at a small college.  3 D1 players on the same roster, unimaginable !!

Good point.  The fact that King (and others) have been successful without many D-1 athletes says much about his coaching ability.

I wonder how many schools (even 7A) have sent as many players to D-1 as PA in the last 10 years?

Overdahill

December 11, 2014, 10:26:24 am #95 Last Edit: December 11, 2014, 11:14:54 am by Overdahill
Quote from: hogrock on December 11, 2014, 07:36:27 am
Quote from: Maynard G Krebs on December 10, 2014, 09:33:51 pm
Quote from: PA Dad on December 10, 2014, 09:05:41 pm
I agree that the 2011 team was Kelley's best.  But that doesn't mean he can't have a better one in 2-3 years.

Some folks here have said the 2011 had five D-1 players.  I remember only 3 - Knighten, Henry and an offensive lineman named King who went to Purdue.   Who were the others?

Aum'arie Wallace, DB--UCA
Tyler Colquitt, LB/RB--UA
Matt Kolb, OL--UA

Quote from: football nut on December 10, 2014, 10:00:59 pm
Quote from: Maynard G Krebs on December 10, 2014, 09:33:51 pm
Quote from: PA Dad on December 10, 2014, 09:05:41 pm
I agree that the 2011 team was Kelley's best.  But that doesn't mean he can't have a better one in 2-3 years.

Some folks here have said the 2011 had five D-1 players.  I remember only 3 - Knighten, Henry and an offensive lineman named King who went to Purdue.   Who were the others?

Aum'arie Wallace, DB--UCA
Tyler Colquitt, LB/RB--UA
Matt Kolb, OL--UA
Jeremy Brady DB--Tulsa

Also, Cameron Colbert - WR, UA. He was a soph on the 2011 team.

Ben Fortson (Sr WR) may have played a year at Samford. Kyle Whelpley (Jr DE) was being recruited until he hurt his back. LJ Wallace (Jr WR) was offered for football and baseball by UCA and chose baseball. That 2011 team was loaded

Chief_Osceola™

Quote from: PA Dad on December 11, 2014, 09:39:50 am
Quote from: Intelligentsia on December 11, 2014, 09:24:31 am
Something to see schools with multiple D1 players in one year and a steady stream of players at that level every year!  This information makes Pioneer Coach Dave King and staff look even more impressive.  I can only recall that the Pioneers have had two D1 players TOTAL the past 15 years, and one of those was a walk-on who earned a special teams spot after 3 years on the "scout" team.  I'm not sure that we have had even had a half dozen more who played past high school at a small college.  3 D1 players on the same roster, unimaginable !!

Good point.  The fact that King (and others) have been successful without many D-1 athletes says much about his coaching ability.

I wonder how many schools (even 7A) have sent as many players to D-1 as PA in the last 10 years?

The only schools I know of in recent memory were a couple of the Jenks, OK teams and Miami Northwestern.  Bishop Gorman out west may have had that many once or twice.

MDXPHD

Quote from: Chief_Osceola™ on December 11, 2014, 10:54:26 am
Quote from: PA Dad on December 11, 2014, 09:39:50 am
Quote from: Intelligentsia on December 11, 2014, 09:24:31 am
Something to see schools with multiple D1 players in one year and a steady stream of players at that level every year!  This information makes Pioneer Coach Dave King and staff look even more impressive.  I can only recall that the Pioneers have had two D1 players TOTAL the past 15 years, and one of those was a walk-on who earned a special teams spot after 3 years on the "scout" team.  I'm not sure that we have had even had a half dozen more who played past high school at a small college.  3 D1 players on the same roster, unimaginable !!

Good point.  The fact that King (and others) have been successful without many D-1 athletes says much about his coaching ability.

I wonder how many schools (even 7A) have sent as many players to D-1 as PA in the last 10 years?

The only schools I know of in recent memory were a couple of the Jenks, OK teams and Miami Northwestern.  Bishop Gorman out west may have had that many once or twice.

Springdale in 05' with Malzahn was the best team in the last 15 years.  They are probably only rivaled by some of the PB teams in the history of the state.  They had 5-6 D-1 players and didn't come close to being challenged.

FD4

99 team Coach Campbell at Wynne had 5 eventual D1 players 2 league players as well in that 5. Aaron Dixon (Hogs), Tab Slaughter (ASU), Antonio Warren (ASU), Jerome Stegall (ASU), Deangelo Williams (Memphis).  That was a beast of a team.  A lot of very talented players all the way around.

Hoophawg

Quote from: MDXPHD on December 11, 2014, 04:05:17 pm
Quote from: Chief_Osceola™ on December 11, 2014, 10:54:26 am
Quote from: PA Dad on December 11, 2014, 09:39:50 am
Quote from: Intelligentsia on December 11, 2014, 09:24:31 am
Something to see schools with multiple D1 players in one year and a steady stream of players at that level every year!  This information makes Pioneer Coach Dave King and staff look even more impressive.  I can only recall that the Pioneers have had two D1 players TOTAL the past 15 years, and one of those was a walk-on who earned a special teams spot after 3 years on the "scout" team.  I'm not sure that we have had even had a half dozen more who played past high school at a small college.  3 D1 players on the same roster, unimaginable !!

Good point.  The fact that King (and others) have been successful without many D-1 athletes says much about his coaching ability.

I wonder how many schools (even 7A) have sent as many players to D-1 as PA in the last 10 years?

The only schools I know of in recent memory were a couple of the Jenks, OK teams and Miami Northwestern.  Bishop Gorman out west may have had that many once or twice.

Springdale in 05' with Malzahn was the best team in the last 15 years.  They are probably only rivaled by some of the PB teams in the history of the state.  They had 5-6 D-1 players and didn't come close to being challenged.
no.  They had a couple d1 players.  The rest were overrated bigtime

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