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Top Recruits in 3A

Started by Footballfanatic14, October 12, 2015, 12:46:46 pm

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Footballfanatic14

Just wondering who the top prospects are in 3A this year. I know Jordan Jones is obviously the name everyone seems to know, but are there any other D1 players in 3A?

WPWells

I don't know if any big ones besides Jones really. Harrison Newhart (lineman at Charleston) has committed to OBU

Eagle20

Johnson at Harmlny Grove has one Divison -1 offer right now (Austin Peay).  He has some Division 2 offers also

Sick Dog

I dont know if anyone has offered the QB from Prescott D1 or D2 but they need to! Does anyone know?

adaptedtigerfan

I heard he was like 25/27 last friday night.

Proud Buckaroo

Quote from: Sick Dog on October 12, 2015, 01:03:09 pm
I dont know if anyone has offered the QB from Prescott D1 or D2 but they need to! Does anyone know?

I don't think he gets any D1 looks because of his size. He is a little on the small side, in my opinion.

Possibly D2. But I don't know. Kojack?

strongandsteady

Throwing 25 out of 27 he needs some offers soon

FNLsupporter

Gulledge from Bald Knob is receiving interest from several schools. U of A and ASU has shown interest, along with sideline passes for games.  No offer that I currently know of however. Scouts are becoming more and more aware of him, and running a 4.41 at U of A camp sure helped his chances. Still small for D1 as well, but he is usually the best athlete on the field most Friday nights.

adaptedtigerfan

I get so sick and tired of this size Bull crap...   If a kid can play then he can play.  Look @ Drew Morgan..  Perfect example.

Proud Buckaroo

Quote from: adaptedtigerfan on October 12, 2015, 05:18:51 pm
I get so sick and tired of this size Bull crap...   If a kid can play then he can play.  Look @ Drew Morgan..  Perfect example.

Drew Morgan is 6'0". 195lbs, and A WR.

Trevor pipkin is 6'0". 175lbs, and a QB.


Not a very good example.

adaptedtigerfan

You missed my point....  As usual wasn't comparing a QB and a WR.  Simply stating that size shouldn't be a deciding factor of weather a kid can play or not.

Proud Buckaroo

And as usual. You still don't understand football.

A kids size is a big factor if a school wants to recruit someone, or not.


macadoshis

Coach B told me something this summer that has stuck with me. He said sure they look at the measureables to an extent. But he wants a kid that can play football. 

Proud Buckaroo

If that was the God honest truth. Then Allie Freeman from ECS would have plenty of offers. The kid can play football, basketball and baseball.

ChucktownTiger

Quote from: macadoshis on October 12, 2015, 05:43:52 pm
Coach B told me something this summer that has stuck with me. He said sure they look at the measureables to an extent. But he wants a kid that can play football.

He may not be around much longer to find what he's looking for.

FNLsupporter

Quote from: adaptedtigerfan on October 12, 2015, 05:18:51 pm
I get so sick and tired of this size Bull crap...   If a kid can play then he can play.  Look @ Drew Morgan..  Perfect example.
Adapted, I'm not saying Gulledge can't play at the D1 level, but it is known throughout that size is a factor in recruiting. An athlete has to be really elite to overcome size limitations. That doesn't mean I always agree with it, it's just the nature of D1 sports. Personally, I think he probably can play at that level, but I am not the one that makes those decisions. By the way, Gulledge is 5'9" 170 lbs.  If you get a chance, Google his hudl highlights and give me your opinion. I may be wrong about him.

Markadomous

Regarding Pipkin from Prescott. I am a prescott fan and a regular reader on fearless but I seldom post. Adepted I agree with u 100 percent. Sick and tiired of hearing the not big enough crap. And by the way he was 27-29 last Friday night. He is the most accurate qb I have ever seen in high school. He is 5'11 in bare feet and weighs 174 pounds. HF commented that all he throws is screen passes but that is totally inaccurate. He throws the deep baandll with great touch and he has a very strong arm. D1 or D2 he is definitely a great prospect. We get on his back and ride him every game. The kid is a winner and a leader and every kid on his team looks up to him. He will be a steal for whoever gets him.

Proud Buckaroo

Quote from: Markadomous on October 12, 2015, 05:52:30 pm
Regarding Pipkin from Prescott. I am a prescott fan and a regular reader on fearless but I seldom post. Adepted I agree with u 100 percent. Sick and tiired of hearing the not big enough crap. And by the way he was 27-29 last Friday night. He is the most accurate qb I have ever seen in high school. He is 5'11 in bare feet and weighs 174 pounds. HF commented that all he throws is screen passes but that is totally inaccurate. He throws the deep baandll with great touch and he has a very strong arm. D1 or D2 he is definitely a great prospect. We get on his back and ride him every game. The kid is a winner and a leader and every kid on his team looks up to him. He will be a steal for whoever gets him.

Come on, man. You, and every one else can be sick and tired of hearing it all you want. It's just how it is. Did I say the kid wasn't good? No, i didn't. I said size plays a factor in getting recruited. HF watched prescott. I have seen lots of film on prescott. Over 45% of their passes are screens. 40% of his passes slants. The rest are deep passes.

macadoshis

We have had several schools say Hunter is on the short side to play LB.  I say he's a little on the slow side to play D1.  He is faster now than he was this summer. Hopefully by next summer he's even a step quicker

strongandsteady


Proud Buckaroo

Weight: 206 lbs.

You see that.

Russell Wilson is a bad example as well. He's not only a threat for pass, he is a very good rusher.

In highschool, he threw for 3,200 yards and 40 touchdowns.
Rushed for 634 yards for 15 touchdowns as a junior.

As a senior, he threw for another 3,000 yards and 34 touchdowns.
Rushed for 1,132 yards and 18 touchdowns.

RowdyReputation40

Prescott has a couple d2 prospects. I could see #15 and a couple other juniors getting an offer

adaptedtigerfan

I bet if they were a buckaroo it would matter the size.

Proud Buckaroo

No. It wouldn't. Three years ago. Our best RB didn't get any college offers because of his size. He was 5'10". 190 lbs. Ran a 4.5. You think I was upset about that? No. Because I understood.

adaptedtigerfan

5-10 190 no offers??  I find that hard to believe.  Alex Collins 5-11 215.   If a kid can't put on 20 lbs in a D1 weight program there is something wrong with him.

strongandsteady

Now what is a good D1 size for a running back?

Proud Buckaroo

Quote from: adaptedtigerfan on October 12, 2015, 07:03:24 pm
5-10 190 no offers??  I find that hard to believe.  Alex Collins 5-11 215.   If a kid can't put on 20 lbs in a D1 weight program there is something wrong with him.

So. You want me to screen shot the messages between him, and I?

Yeah, I wouldn't lie about something like that.

Proud Buckaroo

And sometimes it's not just talent that plays a role.

No one ever thinks about academics.

FNLsupporter

Quote from: Proud Buckaroo on October 12, 2015, 07:11:37 pm
And sometimes it's not just talent that plays a role.

No one ever thinks about academics.
You're exactly right! Absolutely zero help to any team if they aren't academically eligible. 

adaptedtigerfan

You never mentioned he couldn't make the grades.

Carljung

Quote from: Proud Buckaroo on October 12, 2015, 05:56:20 pm
Quote from: Markadomous on October 12, 2015, 05:52:30 pm
Regarding Pipkin from Prescott. I am a prescott fan and a regular reader on fearless but I seldom post. Adepted I agree with u 100 percent. Sick and tiired of hearing the not big enough crap. And by the way he was 27-29 last Friday night. He is the most accurate qb I have ever seen in high school. He is 5'11 in bare feet and weighs 174 pounds. HF commented that all he throws is screen passes but that is totally inaccurate. He throws the deep baandll with great touch and he has a very strong arm. D1 or D2 he is definitely a great prospect. We get on his back and ride him every game. The kid is a winner and a leader and every kid on his team looks up to him. He will be a steal for whoever gets him.

Come on, man. You, and every one else can be sick and tired of hearing it all you want. It's just how it is. Did I say the kid wasn't good? No, i didn't. I said size plays a factor in getting recruited. HF watched prescott. I have seen lots of film on prescott. Over 45% of their passes are screens. 40% of his passes slants. The rest are deep passes.
Lol...I'd like to see where you got those percentages from. Btw slants take arm strength and accuracy.

Proud Buckaroo

Quote from: adaptedtigerfan on October 12, 2015, 08:02:43 pm
You never mentioned he couldn't make the grades.

I shouldn't have to. It's not my business to post that about a kid.

adaptedtigerfan

You just basically said its not always about talent.  People don't realize academics have a lot to do with it?    Do I need to quote it for you?

Proud Buckaroo

Quote from: Carljung on October 12, 2015, 08:06:12 pm
Quote from: Proud Buckaroo on October 12, 2015, 05:56:20 pm
Quote from: Markadomous on October 12, 2015, 05:52:30 pm
Regarding Pipkin from Prescott. I am a prescott fan and a regular reader on fearless but I seldom post. Adepted I agree with u 100 percent. Sick and tiired of hearing the not big enough crap. And by the way he was 27-29 last Friday night. He is the most accurate qb I have ever seen in high school. He is 5'11 in bare feet and weighs 174 pounds. HF commented that all he throws is screen passes but that is totally inaccurate. He throws the deep baandll with great touch and he has a very strong arm. D1 or D2 he is definitely a great prospect. We get on his back and ride him every game. The kid is a winner and a leader and every kid on his team looks up to him. He will be a steal for whoever gets him.

Come on, man. You, and every one else can be sick and tired of hearing it all you want. It's just how it is. Did I say the kid wasn't good? No, i didn't. I said size plays a factor in getting recruited. HF watched prescott. I have seen lots of film on prescott. Over 45% of their passes are screens. 40% of his passes slants. The rest are deep passes.
Lol...I'd like to see where you got those percentages from. Btw slants take arm strength and accuracy.

Where did I get those percentages from? I guess reading comprehension is the last thing to worry about in Prescott. Let me make this more clear for you.... 


HF watched Prescott play. I have watched a lot of film on Prescott.

Is that better?

Proud Buckaroo

Quote from: adaptedtigerfan on October 12, 2015, 08:08:53 pm
You just basically said its not always about talent.  People don't realize academics have a lot to do with it?    Do I need to quote it for you?

Quote it if you want. I didn't specifically say it was that kid. Did I? No. I said, academics plays a role in being recruited as well.

adaptedtigerfan

Sooooo..   Now you are the film specialist and break down film for a team that Smackover won't play?

Carljung

So you've broke down prescott's films this year? Or you are taking hf's word??? Either way bwahahahaha

adaptedtigerfan

Thank you Carljung.  At least I'm not the only one on these boards.

Carljung

Quote from: adaptedtigerfan on October 12, 2015, 08:13:53 pm
Thank you Carljung.  At least I'm not the only one on these boards.
Np... It's funny to me these guys who start throwing out percentages... Like he really has taken the time to break down the film of like you said a team they aren't even playing.

Proud Buckaroo

Quote from: adaptedtigerfan on October 12, 2015, 08:11:26 pm
Sooooo..   Now you are the film specialist and break down film for a team that Smackover won't play?

Haha. The winner of the prescott/Glen Rose game will make it to war memorial. That's my opinion. So... Most likely prescott wins that game. So, yes. I did break down their film. I didn't know it was a crime to actually have knowledge of football. You should try it some time.

Proud Buckaroo

Quote from: Carljung on October 12, 2015, 08:15:36 pm
Quote from: adaptedtigerfan on October 12, 2015, 08:13:53 pm
Thank you Carljung.  At least I'm not the only one on these boards.
Np... It's funny to me these guys who start throwing out percentages... Like he really has taken the time to break down the film of like you said a team they aren't even playing.

The only reason Adapted is going for prescott because he doesn't have a jock strap to live through anymore at charleston. Now, that's funny.

adaptedtigerfan

How is that possible that the winner there makes it to WMS. They gonna have to play us or Lamar.

Carljung

Quote from: Proud Buckaroo on October 12, 2015, 08:15:53 pm
Quote from: adaptedtigerfan on October 12, 2015, 08:11:26 pm
Sooooo..   Now you are the film specialist and break down film for a team that Smackover won't play?

Haha. The winner of the prescott/Glen Rose game will make it to war memorial. That's my opinion. So... Most likely prescott wins that game. So, yes. I did break down their film. I didn't know it was a crime to actually have knowledge of football. You should try it some time.
I can promise you that by you saying that 45% of prescott's passes are screens and 40% is slants and the rest are deep balls you don't know as much football as you think... ;)

adaptedtigerfan

+ it must be amazing to live a lifestyle that you have absolutely nothing to do except "break down film" and not even be a coach.

RabidWolf

According to my son who plays with Pipkin, ATU has been talking to him. But idk how serious. I would think #3 would be getting some D2 looks. But who knows. And as sad as it is, the size issue is real. Not saying its legitimate. But coaches do pay attention to it.

Proud Buckaroo

Quote from: adaptedtigerfan on October 12, 2015, 08:19:12 pm
+ it must be amazing to live a lifestyle that you have absolutely nothing to do except "break down film" and not even be a coach.

I have no interest in being a Coach. That's not the career I persued. I am in the work that I enjoy.  I work shift work. Most of the time at work. I am inside. Monitoring all my equipment from 8 computer screens. I have a computer beside me. With access to the Internet. That's amazing, right? Yeah, my lifestyle blows.... ::)


adaptedtigerfan


HorseFeathers

If Adam dycus wasnt D1 material...then neither is pipkin...

Paperman

People in this case, size does matter. Linemen 6'2" is considered short and weight under 280. I am not saying a kid 5'9" and 190 couldn't play at a D1 school but their chanes are remote because of their size! Unfortunately recruiters aren't measuring heart when they are scouting out talent! I am certain there are plenty of young men who could contribute to any program who never even get a look! I remember a kid who played after me at my high school who was listed as 6'10" 320 instead of 5'10" plenty of scouts showed up at his first game and even though he dominated the line of scrimmage never even spoke to him because he was under 6 feet! It stinks but it is true! Size matters!

HorseFeathers

Quote from: Paperman on October 12, 2015, 08:32:47 pm
People in this case, size does matter. Linemen 6'2" is considered short and weight under 280. I am not saying a kid 5'9" and 190 couldn't play at a D1 school but their chanes are remote because of their size! Unfortunately recruiters aren't measuring heart when they are scouting out talent! I am certain there are plenty of young men who could contribute to any program who never even get a look! I remember a kid who played after me at my high school who was listed as 6'10" 320 instead of 5'10" plenty of scouts showed up at his first game and even though he dominated the line of scrimmage never even spoke to him because he was under 6 feet! It stinks but it is true! Size matters!

There are a few exceptions like a Russell wilson (4000 all purpose yards his Sr year of high school)...

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