How does everyone think this season will go? My money is on Lincoln. They return 10 offensive and 7 defensive starters off a team that went 5-5 (3 of those losses were by 10 points or less). Starting QB is standing at almost 6'2 with 3 of his 4 WRs are over 6'0 ft as well. Shifty little tailback with ok size on the line.
Sounds like a good group, but I'll put my money on the Tigers.
If Lincoln can ever get past the mental block of beating Prairie Grove, Lincoln can turn the program around
That might be true if PG was the only team to beat the Wolves. 5-5 is an ok record but it sounds like the jr group is not going to carry the top of the conference in high school with out some help from other classes. Be interesting to see how well the 9-1 group will do now that they are freshmen and have the whole jr program.
As we speak there is currently a jh pad camp going on at Shiloh. Consists of elkins, harrison, lincoln and shiloh. Is suppose to occur same time next week as well
How is the junior team doing at the camp?
Report from last week was that they would make 1-2 good plays or drives then would have a bad play/drive. Coach Harrison also thought he may have worked them out too much last tuesday. So yesterday they had a helmet only practice, today's teams at the camp were Shiloh, Gentry, Gravette. The wolves took care of business. Just night and day difference from last week. 3 of the 4 starting WRs all had multiple big plays and TDs. Defense did their part too and had some big INTs.
Lincoln beat Westville 34-6 last night
Lincoln beat Stillwell 33-8 tonight.
Harrison 34 Lincoln 0.
9/14/17
Berryville 15
Green Forest 0
Half of Pea Ridge's team is out for a while. Soooo many injuries. Gonna be a long season
Gravette 28 Lincoln 26.
WS, what was your opinion of the game and the crowd?
Gravettes QB is pretty good in my opinion. If Davis doesnt start cramping in the 4th qtr I believe he intercepts the ball late on that deep pass to secure the win. I dont pay much attention to the crowd. Also something that didnt help this week was JH didn't even practice wednesday because of some reading test. They already only get about a 50 minute practice and to miss the day before a game is tough.
Why can't the junior boys get more time?
They're only schedule in black and white 1 full hour I believe. Throw in dress time and a couple required breaks. Cuts down on time.
Oh, that makes sense of course, I mean why can't they get scheduled more time? Do we need another coach or two so they can work out more?
If lincoln could hire 1-2 more coaches they could be a split staff then. The only split going on currently is Bounds and Philpot having 7th grade by themselves since theyre both at the MS. Although theyre at the other games on the sideline. I think most teams in the confernce don't have split staffs. Pea Ridge is the only one I can name off the top of my head that for sure does.
Ok, so all the coaches are coaching the junior team during their period. It would be nice if they could have a full afternoon practice with their own coaches. I believe the old coach did that one day a week.. Seems it would help with conditioning and how well they play.
Lincoln 6 PR 0 final
Goood win for junior Wolves.
Quote from: whippersnapper on September 28, 2017, 09:39:26 pm
Lincoln 6 PR 0 final
Frustrating game. So many injuries on that Jr High squad. Like I said earlier itt, it's gonna be a long year for this group. Davis is a lot of fun to watch play. Gonna be a good one
Lincoln 38 Berryville 22
Does that make Lincoln jr 4-2? Losses to Gravette and Harrison?
Yes. Also if anyone else from the conf would like to throw scores and records this way to help out that would be appreciated. Last season I had some help with scores and was able to give weekly standings.
Lincoln 41 Huntsville 7. The ones pitched a shutout.
Whats the chance of junior high winning conference?
Not sure yet. I have had a couple people message me conf scores for their team. I will try to have something up by monday. We gotta win out for at least a share of it.
This is the best that I can come up with so if anyone know of anything different please inform me so I can adjust.
1. Prairie Grove 4-0
T2. Gravette 3-1
T2. Lincoln 3-1
T2. Shiloh 3-1
T2. Gentry 3-1
T8. Berryville 0-4
T8. Huntsville 0-4
T8. Pea Ridge 0-4
Quote from: whippersnapper on October 15, 2017, 03:58:55 pm
This is the best that I can come up with so if anyone know of anything different please inform me so I can adjust.
1. Prairie Grove 4-0
T2. Gravette 3-1
T2. Lincoln 3-1
T2. Shiloh 3-1
T2. Gentry 3-1
T8. Berryville 0-4
T8. Huntsville 0-4
T8. Pea Ridge 0-4
Pea Ridge is 0-7
Not sure of everyone's overall record so I just listed the conf.
Berryville is 2-5.
Lost to Gravette 26-23 on 10/12.
For Lincoln we have to beat Prairie Grove if we want to win it. What's the chances?
Not sure. 2 years ago in 7th grade both teams were 9-0 going into week 10. Then on game day it started raining and storming, the KO is suppose to be at 5:30 and was actually closer to 7 after delays. PG won 28-12 I think, somewhere close to that. Truth of the game was the wing t (for that age group) was built more for the mud and rain. Not the spread the wolves run.
Shiloh 16 Lincoln 15 FINAL
Berryville 0
Pea Ridge 30
Final
Tough tough night for the wolf pack, they literally outgained/outplayed Shiloh all over the field other then....the little things. And at the end of the day that's what will win or lose you a ball game. Had about 3-4 false snaps and one of the SC scores was a pick 6. The other was a double reverse pass. I hate it for the kids because you could tell after the game a few of them felt like they were the reason they lost. But at the end of the day you win as a team and lose as a team. Keep your heads up, finish the season strong and go out beat Gentry then PG.
Quote from: prHOG13 on October 19, 2017, 10:21:20 pm
Berryville 0
Pea Ridge 30
Final
Is PR now 1-7?
There was some outstanding sportsmanship shown on that field last night. I was impressed.
Where does the result of last nights games leave the conference standing?
Updated Conf Standings
1. PG 5-0
T2. Shiloh 4-1
T2. Gravette 4-1
T3. Lincoln 3-2
T3. Gentry 3-2
6. Pea Ridge 1-4
T8. Huntsville 0-5
T8. Berryville 0-5
With two games left it could be a tie in several positions at the end. About as expected except for Pea Ridge falling so far.
Quote from: Momma_S on October 20, 2017, 08:04:59 am
Is PR now 1-7?
There was some outstanding sportsmanship shown on that field last night. I was impressed.
Yes mam.
We've been hammered with injuries this year and have multiple starters out for the year, and we've had more concussions than I can remember. There's some talent on this team, just haven't gotten it to work
Has been a tough year for sure, 1-7. Who'd of thought that.
Quote from: whippersnapper on October 16, 2017, 05:12:56 pm
Not sure. 2 years ago in 7th grade both teams were 9-0 going into week 10. Then on game day it started raining and storming, the KO is suppose to be at 5:30 and was actually closer to 7 after delays. PG won 28-12 I think, somewhere close to that. Truth of the game was the wing t (for that age group) was built more for the mud and rain. Not the spread the wolves run.
This is a great example how it's so hard to build success at Lincoln. 9 wins in 7th equals 5-7 in JR High, then 3-4 in SR High. Tough situation. On the other hand PG keeps rolling
Some of the keys to success at PG include most importantly, a long term head coach and assistants and one system of doing things.
Quote from: nuttinbuthogs on October 24, 2017, 08:57:33 am
Some of the keys to success at PG include most importantly, a long term head coach and assistants and one system of doing things.
You touch a good point. Lincoln has had multiple coaches, HC and assistants over the years. That means the kids don't learn the same system and stick with it. Harris was there for 6 seasons and several other coaches left about the same time. The current HC is in year year 3 but has already had to suffle coaches around and hire for a few that have left. HOw long has PG had the same staff? Makes a difference.
All great points, I think the staff has been together for 15-20 years
I believe Harrison staying put in Lincoln will be a big reason why he has success there. Had Harris stayed there would be a totally different light on Lincoln then currently. Given time Lincoln will be in the playoffs nearly every year under Harrison. Shoot they missed it last year by 2 points. Have a chance with a win Friday to get back in it. No matter what their JH record is I believe the freshmen class will have a chance to be in the playoffs all 3 years in SR high. Not saying they will. But have a shot.
You could of course be right about Lincoln making the playoffs this year, Friday will probably clear that up. They might even make it with the current freshmen you talked about. However, they are fighting for 5th in the current and near future scheme of things. Still bottom half, and frankly long term history of Lincoln football and apparent falling enrollment doesn't support that. Harrison is already in year 3 and I doubt he would want to stay much longer if he doesn't get to the playoffs this and or next season. Just saying.
How are this years 7th grade doing at Lincoln? 4-4 is that corrrect?
Check that. Misread the question the 7th grade hasnt won a game. Lost couple close ones to PR and berryville. From the talk I hear the fans would get excited in PeeWee when they got a 1st down much less a TD. Also about half the 7th graders havr never played. A rough season but they have gotten better.
I think that is an exaggeration. A few years back the pee wee did pretty good, then they fell off in the last few. Nobody in Lincoln is going to be happy with loosing all the time. Most keep hoping for a return to the 2011 - 2013 years. Maybe we will get there again.
nbh I think whippersnapper is closer to right on time line anyway. It was back around 2011when the last peewee team did very well. It's the 2013 group that was always so good. You are correct that people are tired of not winning consistantly, I hear them talking and asking the same old question. When is Lincoln going to challenge for the top spots inthe conference. If the freshmean group doesn't do it, it will be a while coming.
WSnapper, is the 7 grade and junior high still coached by Bounds and that young fellow.
Quote from: RZback on October 24, 2017, 03:19:24 pm
nbh I think whippersnapper is closer to right on time line anyway. It was back around 2011when the last peewee team did very well. It's the 2013 group that was always so good. You are correct that people are tired of not winning consistantly, I hear them talking and asking the same old question. When is Lincoln going to challenge for the top spots inthe conference. If the freshmean group doesn't do it, it will be a while coming.
Now who is exaggerating? 4-6 or 5-5 would be greatly received.
What did I exaggerate on?
Quote from: whippersnapper on October 24, 2017, 01:41:32 pm
From the talk I hear the fans would get excited in PeeWee when they got a 1st down much less a TD.
I think you exaggerated here. Seen a few pee wee games and their wasn't much excitement about much of anything. Fans haven't forgotten what winning looks like or that we still deep down expect to see it.
Gentry 22 Lincoln 15 Final
Gravette 28 Shiloh 22 final.
Pea Ridge 14
Huntsville 7
Final
Whats the breakdown on the jr conference after last night.
1. PG 6-0
2. Gravette 5-1
T3. Shiloh 4-2
T3. Gentry 4-2
4. Lincoln 3-3
5. PR 2-4
T8. Huntsville 0-6
T8. Berryville 0-6.
Big games next week with Gentry vs Gravette and PG vs Lincoln. If Lincoln and Gravette both win then PG and Grav share the conf championship. If Gentry wins they can at least share the runner up with gravette
Quote from: whippersnapper on October 27, 2017, 11:23:28 am
Big games next week with Gentry vs Gravette and PG vs Lincoln. If Lincoln and Gravette both win then PG and Grav share the conf championship. If Gentry wins they can at least share the runner up with gravette
Thats a big IF! I don't think I'd bet on either one but that's why you play the game as they say.
Quote from: whippersnapper on October 24, 2017, 11:31:20 am
How does everyone think this season will go? My money is on Lincoln. They return 10 offensive and 7 defensive starters off a team that went 5-5 (3 of those losses were by 10 points or less). Starting QB is standing at almost 6'2 with 3 of his 4 WRs are over 6'0 ft as well. Shifty little tailback with ok size on the line.
I believe Harrison staying put in Lincoln will be a big reason why he has success there. Had Harris stayed there would be a totally different light on Lincoln then currently. Given time Lincoln will be in the playoffs nearly every year under Harrison. Shoot they missed it last year by 2 points. Have a chance with a win Friday to get back in it. No matter what their JH record is I believe the freshmen class will have a chance to be in the playoffs all 3 years in SR high. Not saying they will. But have a shot.
Quote from: whippersnapper on July 05, 2017, 11:27:51 am
Facing Prairie Grove this week at 3-3. Has your assessment of Lincoln changed any since the start of the season? Do you still think this jr crew is going to be in the playoffs every year.
Wpsnpr: Has your assessment chnged any since the start of the season.
Well I was wrong about them winning conference obviously. Not the first I have been. With this group the little things have beaten them in their 3 conf losses. Something else they may have factored into the season is a JH HC change. The former coach left to become a sr high HC at westville. Coach Mendoza is the coach now and is in his first year here at Lincoln. This has been a season of learning the kids and kids learning the coaches. He has been exactly what that group needed which was a no nonsense toe the line type. The former coach was more of a buddy buddy type. This team is literally 3 plays away from being 6-0 in conference and 8-1 on the season. I have lost no belief in this group. They strive to get better each day and each loss has been a painful one. Go Wolves!
WS, I'll give you one thing you follow the company line on supporting the home team. You guys are probably looking at a 3-4 conference unless you pull off the PG upset. I don't see that big a turn in the next few years but also your 7th grade is struggling and you may need those guys in a couple years to aid with that freshman group. Anyway, someone ought to hire you to be the PR guy for their school teams.
On more thing, I know Lincoln is in the same spot for sr high tonight, really need a win. What's the odds on that game?
A program that does not have tradition this shows that 7th grade success doesn't turn into JR High or SR High . I don't think it's the current HC's fault just a really tough place to win
Quote from: Tigerdad2 on October 28, 2017, 10:06:00 pm
A program that does not have tradition this shows that 7th grade success doesn't turn into JR High or SR High . I don't think it's the current HC's fault just a really tough place to win
Isn't that what a HC is hired to fix? Just speaking of that group, current coach had them in 7th, 8th and now 9th grade. Results have worsened.
I don't believe Harrison coaches all those groups now. Not the seventh grade and I'm not sure how much with junior high. One thing for sure we need to improve.
Maybe he should start! Or someone should ask why not?
3 wins, against 3 teams that are combined 3-27. 7th grade with no wins, junior high looks to have 5 wins? Step it up folks. Demand more.
The biggest hope is that we can hold on until a bunch of the current conference teams move up and we get some other teams we can compete with.
Quote from: nuttinbuthogs on October 29, 2017, 09:07:50 pm
The biggest hope is that we can hold on until a bunch of the current conference teams move up and we get some other teams we can compete with.
The evidence points to more of the same.
Quote from: RZback on October 29, 2017, 08:53:31 pm
3 wins, against 3 teams that are combined 3-27. 7th grade with no wins, junior high looks to have 5 wins? Step it up folks. Demand more.
There is nothing that shows Lincoln is going to do better than they presently are. In fact with a winless 7th grade it looks to drop off even more. The question that should be asked is why or why not?
There is one junior game left and maybe we can win that one. I know it will be hard but we still have the game.
Quote from: nuttinbuthogs on October 30, 2017, 11:49:25 am
There is one junior game left and maybe we can win that one. I know it will be hard but we still have the game.
If you guys win the PG game I'll eat my hat. That's a huge pipe dream I'm afraid. Both in the junior high game and the senior game. Although I would think you have a better chance at junior game.
If the junior high kids play up to their ability, they have a great chance to win. Prairie Grove better be ready to get dissappointed.
The senior high team has hung close in a few games that mistakes cost them the game. If they don't make mistakes they can win it.
Quote from: nuttinbuthogs on October 31, 2017, 09:55:30 am
If the junior high kids play up to their ability, they have a great chance to win. Prairie Grove better be ready to get dissappointed.
The senior high team has hung close in a few games that mistakes cost them the game. If they don't make mistakes they can win it.
Boy! That's some ambitious claims there.
You must know something the rest of the people don't about Lincoln football.
The kids try hard and they believe they can win. There can be improvement in the program but the kids try to do their part. If they want it bad enough they can win this week.
Ok, we will see at the end of the week.
PG 14 Lincoln 13 final.
Shiloh 6
Pea Ridge 14
Glad this team finally started playing near its potential toward the end of the year after a really rough start.
That's a huge win by PR.
Overall thoughts on the JH season, it was a tough one but fun one. I have never been one to try to be real critical of referees for costing a team a game. That's not the case last night with the Lincoln PG game. With about 4 mins left PG had 4th &2, as PG is scrambling to decide to go for it or not they rush the punt team out to the field. This all being with 15 or less seconds left on the playclock, PG "lines up" to punt. The punter steps forward to talk to his protector as he does this he has a slot guy in motion never being set. The deep snapper then snaps the ball without the punter being ready. Punter jumps up and grabs ball from the air and runs for a first down. Not every offensive player was set for a full count of 1 second. The slot guy was in motion and the punter was walked up talking to his protector. Not a single ref threw a flag or gave our coach an explanation. Now could PGs defense had made a stop the next drive and Lincoln lose? Yes but the fact they had their chance to win stolen from them is horrible. Lincoln had a critical redzone fumble and a few big drops in the pass as well. At the end of the day the little things beat the wolves too often this season. They now have to use it as fuel in the offseason to not let those type of losses become habit.
Views on the season. Last night was a tough fought loss. Boys played hard and put up a great fight. The devil is in the details they say. You said the little things cost them several games this year. Those little things need to get corrected. It seems the little things have been a problem for several years. If Lincoln is ever going to make it to the top part of the conference they have to fix those.
Quote from: whippersnapper on November 03, 2017, 09:02:37 am
Overall thoughts on the JH season, it was a tough one but fun one. I have never been one to try to be real critical of referees for costing a team a game. That's not the case last night with the Lincoln PG game. With about 4 mins left PG had 4th &2, as PG is scrambling to decide to go for it or not they rush the punt team out to the field. This all being with 15 or less seconds left on the playclock, PG "lines up" to punt. The punter steps forward to talk to his protector as he does this he has a slot guy in motion never being set. The deep snapper then snaps the ball without the punter being ready. Punter jumps up and grabs ball from the air and runs for a first down. Not every offensive player was set for a full count of 1 second. The slot guy was in motion and the punter was walked up talking to his protector. Not a single ref threw a flag or gave our coach an explanation. Now could PGs defense had made a stop the next drive and Lincoln lose? Yes but the fact they had their chance to win stolen from them is horrible. Lincoln had a critical redzone fumble and a few big drops in the pass as well. At the end of the day the little things beat the wolves too often this season. They now have to use it as fuel in the offseason to not let those type of losses become habit.
Quote from: nuttinbuthogs on November 03, 2017, 10:11:16 am
Views on the season. Last night was a tough fought loss. Boys played hard and put up a great fight. The devil is in the details they say. You said the little things cost them several games this year. Those little things need to get corrected. It seems the little things have been a problem for several years. If Lincoln is ever going to make it to the top part of the conference they have to fix those.
You guys must know that a pair of 5-5 seasons for junior high and a winless 7th grade don't signal a big boost next year. Those little things are huge and overcoming them means discipline in fundamentals.