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Pick_DA_EAGLES

I believe tonight settled the argument as 2 conferences went 4-1, the 6 & 8. These 2 have been the best or close to it the last few years. Wins speak for themselves. I dont think either conference was even involved in a close game.  Now on to next week.

godgiven999

yea Carlisle wasn't and neither was PC wasn't  :-X

Pick_DA_EAGLES

Quote from: godgiven999 on November 14, 2014, 10:04:30 pm
yea Carlisle wasn't and neither was PC wasn't  :-X

We all pretty much knew those 2 wouldnt be.

bdubyab60

Expected form 5 seeds most of the time.

Pick_DA_EAGLES

The Woodlawn vs Brinkley game will be a good one. It puts the 4's from the 8 and 6 against each other. So one 4 seed will be playing at least in rnd 3.

playmaker04

The 3 almost had 4. Marked tree lost in the last minute of the game.

Pick_DA_EAGLES

Quote from: playmaker04 on November 15, 2014, 12:27:04 am
The 3 almost had 4. Marked tree lost in the last minute of the game.

Then for this week they come in a close 3rd. Lol

Pick_DA_EAGLES

November 16, 2014, 11:53:10 am #7 Last Edit: November 16, 2014, 11:54:42 am by pick_DA_EAGLES
Results for how the conferences did in round.

3-2A
1st(3) Earle defeated  5th(8 ) parkers chapel, 56-20
2nd(3) cross county defeated  4th(7) Murfreesboro 32-18
3rd(3) epc defeated 4th(5) England 44-24
4th(3) marked tree lost to 2nd(5) poyen 32-26
5th(3) walnut ridge lost to 1st(8 ) j.c. 62-8

To go 3-2 in first round all 3 wins blowouts, 1 close loss, 1 blowout loss

4-2A
1st (4) hector had a bye
2nd(4) Hackett lost to 4th(8 ) Woodlawn 40-12
3rd(4) Mountainburg lost 3rd(6) Mccrory 37-16
4th(4) union christian lost to 3rd(8 ) Bearden 63-14
5th(4) w. Yell County lost to 1st(6) Hazen 42-0

To go 0-4 in first round, all 4 losses blowouts

5-2A
1st(5) conway christian had a bye
2Nd(5) poyen defeated 4th(3) m.t. 32-26
3rd(5) magnet cove defeated 3rd(7) layfette county 28-24
4th(5) england lost to 3rd(3) epc 44-24
5th(5) Bigelow lost to 2nd(6) des arc 33-6

To go 2-2, 2 wins close, 2 losses blowouts

6-2A
1st(6) hazen defeated 5th(4)w.y.c. 42-0
2nd(6) d.a. defeated 5th(5) bigelow 33-6
3rd(6) mccrory defeated 3rd(4) mntburg 36-14
4th(6) brinkley deafeated 2nd(7) mount ida 37-16
5th(6) Carlisle lost to 1st(7) Gurdon 40-24

To go 4-1, 4 wins, blowouts. The 1 loss blowout

7-2A
1st Gurdon def 5th(6) Carlisle 40-24
2nd m.i. lost to 4th(6) brinkley 37-16
3rd L.c. lost to 3rd(5) m.c. 28-24
4th murf lost to 2nd(3) cross county 32-18
5th Dierks lost to 2nd(8 ) rison 44-6

To go 1-4, the win was a blowout, 1close loss and 3 blowouts

8-2A
1st j.c. def 5th(3) w.r. 62-8
2nd rison def 5th(7) dierks 44-6
3rd Bearden def 4th(4) u.c. 63-14
4th woodlawn def 2nd(4) hackett 40-12
5th p.c. lost to 1st(3) earle 56-20

To go 4-1, all 4 wins blowouts, the 1 loss a blowout

66SSV

With Bearden and JC playing the most the 8 can have going into round 3 is 3.

godgiven999

The 7 is the toughest conference ;D

big E


Pick_DA_EAGLES

Well, everyone knows j.c. is the best team in 2A, BUT after tonight, the 6 laid claim to the toughest conference with 4 teams making it to the 3rd round.

cuz

Quote from: pick_DA_EAGLES on November 21, 2014, 09:40:34 pm
Well, everyone knows j.c. is the best team in 2A, BUT after tonight, the 6 laid claim to the toughest conference with 4 teams making it to the 3rd round.
Just what conference is JC in? I can't hear you..... ;D

Pick_DA_EAGLES

Quote from: cuz on November 21, 2014, 09:51:41 pm
Quote from: pick_DA_EAGLES on November 21, 2014, 09:40:34 pm
Well, everyone knows j.c. is the best team in 2A, BUT after tonight, the 6 laid claim to the toughest conference with 4 teams making it to the 3rd round.
Just what conference is JC in? I can't hear you..... ;D

The 8, but they are going to be the only team left after next friday. The 6 could still have 3.

THA TRUTH

Come on pick give Brinkley a chance next week

66SSV

Looks like the 6AA has 4 of the 8 teams left
The 3AA has 2 and the 8AA has 2
So the 4 didn't win a playoff game and the 5 and "the toughest conference" the 7 are all out.  Better Luck next year 
Looks like the 6AA is the best conference!!!!! for sure in this bracket.  heads up their 4 seed beat the might 8's 4 seed


Pick_DA_EAGLES

Quote from: THA TRUTH on November 21, 2014, 09:55:19 pm
Come on pick give Brinkley a chance next week

Lol, i am. And haven't even looked at the bracket. You know who im not giving one as bad as i would love to see it. At this point, im hoping for a score and carpenter being nice.

66SSV

Quote from: pick_DA_EAGLES on November 21, 2014, 09:57:29 pm
Quote from: THA TRUTH on November 21, 2014, 09:55:19 pm
Come on pick give Brinkley a chance next week

Lol, i am. And haven't even looked at the bracket. You know who im not giving one as bad as i would love to see it. At this point, im hoping for a score and carpenter being nice.
He was nice tonight the starters where pull in the 2qt on offense

Dragon I

Bearden's played four quarters.

HorseFeathers

Quote from: pick_DA_EAGLES on November 21, 2014, 09:53:23 pm
Quote from: cuz on November 21, 2014, 09:51:41 pm
Quote from: pick_DA_EAGLES on November 21, 2014, 09:40:34 pm
Well, everyone knows j.c. is the best team in 2A, BUT after tonight, the 6 laid claim to the toughest conference with 4 teams making it to the 3rd round.
Just what conference is JC in? I can't hear you..... ;D

The 8, but they are going to be the only team left after next friday. The 6 could still have 3.

Here's my take on the two conferences....

Rison @ Hazen.....Having seen both against top 10 competition, I'm leaning towards Rison in this one.
Des Arc @ J.C......Dragons go easy on the Eagles and let them score one this year :D
Brinkley @ Earle....Earle looks to be on fire right now, and other than against Des Arc early the Tigers didn't do so well against legit teams this year...(I wasn't a believer in Mt Ida for the record....had them in the top 15 though)
McCrory @ Cross County....Toss up game to me....

Just this guy's opinion though...

Pick_DA_EAGLES

Quote from: HF on November 21, 2014, 10:04:39 pm
Quote from: pick_DA_EAGLES on November 21, 2014, 09:53:23 pm
Quote from: cuz on November 21, 2014, 09:51:41 pm
Quote from: pick_DA_EAGLES on November 21, 2014, 09:40:34 pm
Well, everyone knows j.c. is the best team in 2A, BUT after tonight, the 6 laid claim to the toughest conference with 4 teams making it to the 3rd round.
Just what conference is JC in? I can't hear you..... ;D

The 8, but they are going to be the only team left after next friday. The 6 could still have 3.

Here's my take on the two conferences....

Rison @ Hazen.....Having seen both against top 10 competition, I'm leaning towards Rison in this one.
Des Arc @ J.C......Dragons go easy on the Eagles and let them score one this year :D
Brinkley @ Earle....Earle looks to be on fire right now, and other than against Des Arc early the Tigers didn't do so well against legit teams this year...(I wasn't a believer in Mt Ida for the record....had them in the top 15 though)
McCrory @ Cross County....Toss up game to me....

Just this guy's opinion though...

Only thing i got to say is you saw Hazen play Des Arc. Its a rivalry game. I think if you saw them play someone else, you would have a different story. Im not sure if oceola won tonight, but if they did, Hazen has beaten 5 teams still playing after thanksgiving. Im not sure anybody else has that resume.

66SSV

Quote from: Dragon I on November 21, 2014, 10:00:22 pm
Bearden's played four quarters.
And their coach called 2 time out with less than a minute to go after a 1st and goal, but could not cash in on the 9th and 10th grades on 4th and goal with 1 tick on the clock.  You could tell he did not want the be shut out twice this year by the Dragons.

mtindian42

I'm a 3 guy...but its the 6 as a whole, top 4 in the conference in the 3rd round. I rest my case...

cav2012

Quote from: pick_DA_EAGLES on November 21, 2014, 10:08:45 pm
Quote from: HF on November 21, 2014, 10:04:39 pm
Quote from: pick_DA_EAGLES on November 21, 2014, 09:53:23 pm
Quote from: cuz on November 21, 2014, 09:51:41 pm
Quote from: pick_DA_EAGLES on November 21, 2014, 09:40:34 pm
Well, everyone knows j.c. is the best team in 2A, BUT after tonight, the 6 laid claim to the toughest conference with 4 teams making it to the 3rd round.
Just what conference is JC in? I can't hear you..... ;D

The 8, but they are going to be the only team left after next friday. The 6 could still have 3.

Here's my take on the two conferences....

Rison @ Hazen.....Having seen both against top 10 competition, I'm leaning towards Rison in this one.
Des Arc @ J.C......Dragons go easy on the Eagles and let them score one this year :D
Brinkley @ Earle....Earle looks to be on fire right now, and other than against Des Arc early the Tigers didn't do so well against legit teams this year...(I wasn't a believer in Mt Ida for the record....had them in the top 15 though)
McCrory @ Cross County....Toss up game to me....

Just this guy's opinion though...

Only thing i got to say is you saw Hazen play Des Arc. Its a rivalry game. I think if you saw them play someone else, you would have a different story. Im not sure if oceola won tonight, but if they did, Hazen has beaten 5 teams still playing after thanksgiving. Im not sure anybody else has that resume.
osceola won

HorseFeathers

Quote from: pick_DA_EAGLES on November 21, 2014, 10:08:45 pm
Quote from: HF on November 21, 2014, 10:04:39 pm
Quote from: pick_DA_EAGLES on November 21, 2014, 09:53:23 pm
Quote from: cuz on November 21, 2014, 09:51:41 pm
Quote from: pick_DA_EAGLES on November 21, 2014, 09:40:34 pm
Well, everyone knows j.c. is the best team in 2A, BUT after tonight, the 6 laid claim to the toughest conference with 4 teams making it to the 3rd round.
Just what conference is JC in? I can't hear you..... ;D

The 8, but they are going to be the only team left after next friday. The 6 could still have 3.

Here's my take on the two conferences....

Rison @ Hazen.....Having seen both against top 10 competition, I'm leaning towards Rison in this one.
Des Arc @ J.C......Dragons go easy on the Eagles and let them score one this year :D
Brinkley @ Earle....Earle looks to be on fire right now, and other than against Des Arc early the Tigers didn't do so well against legit teams this year...(I wasn't a believer in Mt Ida for the record....had them in the top 15 though)
McCrory @ Cross County....Toss up game to me....

Just this guy's opinion though...

Only thing i got to say is you saw Hazen play Des Arc. Its a rivalry game. I think if you saw them play someone else, you would have a different story. Im not sure if oceola won tonight, but if they did, Hazen has beaten 5 teams still playing after thanksgiving. Im not sure anybody else has that resume.

Rivalry? That was the worst crowd I've witnessed all year...Quieter than a funeral...Not a whole lot to cheer for when both teams are 3 yards and a cloud of dust...or frost that night :D...oh well it was a one game judgement, and I still stand by my judgement and I for one won't be surprised if Rison beats them...Besides Hazen is due that Choke game right?


Will say I am impressed with the score they put on EPC, so you might be right about it :D...One game samples are terrible ways to judge teams this time of year...but at least I can say I've seen them when I say this stuff 8)

Pick_DA_EAGLES

Quote from: HF on November 21, 2014, 10:18:23 pm
Quote from: pick_DA_EAGLES on November 21, 2014, 10:08:45 pm
Quote from: HF on November 21, 2014, 10:04:39 pm
Quote from: pick_DA_EAGLES on November 21, 2014, 09:53:23 pm
Quote from: cuz on November 21, 2014, 09:51:41 pm
Quote from: pick_DA_EAGLES on November 21, 2014, 09:40:34 pm
Well, everyone knows j.c. is the best team in 2A, BUT after tonight, the 6 laid claim to the toughest conference with 4 teams making it to the 3rd round.
Just what conference is JC in? I can't hear you..... ;D

The 8, but they are going to be the only team left after next friday. The 6 could still have 3.

Here's my take on the two conferences....

Rison @ Hazen.....Having seen both against top 10 competition, I'm leaning towards Rison in this one.
Des Arc @ J.C......Dragons go easy on the Eagles and let them score one this year :D
Brinkley @ Earle....Earle looks to be on fire right now, and other than against Des Arc early the Tigers didn't do so well against legit teams this year...(I wasn't a believer in Mt Ida for the record....had them in the top 15 though)
McCrory @ Cross County....Toss up game to me....

Just this guy's opinion though...

Only thing i got to say is you saw Hazen play Des Arc. Its a rivalry game. I think if you saw them play someone else, you would have a different story. Im not sure if oceola won tonight, but if they did, Hazen has beaten 5 teams still playing after thanksgiving. Im not sure anybody else has that resume.

Rivalry? That was the worst crowd I've witnessed all year...Quieter than a funeral...Not a whole lot to cheer for when both teams are 3 yards and a cloud of dust...or frost that night :D...oh well it was a one game judgement, and I still stand by my judgement and I for one won't be surprised if Rison beats them...Besides Hazen is due that Choke game right?


Will say I am impressed with the score they put on EPC, so you might be right about it :D...One game samples are terrible ways to judge teams this time of year...but at least I can say I've seen them when I say this stuff 8)

That you can. Des Arc is the only team to keep them under 30.

bleudog


HorseFeathers


Pick_DA_EAGLES

November 23, 2014, 09:06:10 pm #28 Last Edit: November 23, 2014, 09:10:29 pm by pick_DA_EAGLES
Quote from: bleudog on November 23, 2014, 07:41:13 pm
http://calpreps.com/2014/ratings/Arkansas_leagues.htm

Thats really a joke IMO, it has the 7 listed above the 3. The 3 still has 2 teams playing and the 7 has 0. When i saw that, i dismissed the rest of the ranking.

I guess its a whole season ranking, but i still say with the 6 still having 4 teams playing, that speaks for itself.

HorseFeathers

Quote from: pick_DA_EAGLES on November 23, 2014, 09:06:10 pm
Quote from: bleudog on November 23, 2014, 07:41:13 pm
http://calpreps.com/2014/ratings/Arkansas_leagues.htm

Thats really a joke IMO, it has the 7 listed above the 3. The 3 still has 2 teams playing and the 7 has 0. When i saw that, i dismissed the rest of the ranking.

I guess its a whole season ranking, but i still say with the 6 still having 4 teams still playing, that speaks for itself.

Dude...When measuring a conference strength you have to take into account the bottom teams. Rector, Midland, and possibly Salem might not win a game in the 7....That's 1/3 of the conference, 2 of those probably struggle to win more than 1 or 2 games in the 4-2A, the consensus worst conference in the state...

Pick_DA_EAGLES

Quote from: HF on November 23, 2014, 09:11:10 pm
Quote from: pick_DA_EAGLES on November 23, 2014, 09:06:10 pm
Quote from: bleudog on November 23, 2014, 07:41:13 pm
http://calpreps.com/2014/ratings/Arkansas_leagues.htm

Thats really a joke IMO, it has the 7 listed above the 3. The 3 still has 2 teams playing and the 7 has 0. When i saw that, i dismissed the rest of the ranking.

I guess its a whole season ranking, but i still say with the 6 still having 4 teams still playing, that speaks for itself.

Dude...When measuring a conference strength you have to take into account the bottom teams. Rector, Midland, and possibly Salem might not win a game in the 7....That's 1/3 of the conference, 2 of those probably struggle to win more than 1 or 2 games in the 4-2A, the consensus worst conference in the state...


Well since ONLY 5 (wish it was 3) teams make the playoffs, that should be what makes the rankings or maybe someone should do one like that.

By your thinking, and the way the top teams in the 7 performed in the playoffs, if their top 3 teams were in the 3,6, or 8. Only one maybe 2 would make the playoffs and that would be as a 4 or 5 seed. I dont care what the bottom teams do, every conference has them, even the 8.

Pick_DA_EAGLES

Heck HF, take the bottom 2 from all conferences, they all would struggle to win a game in any conference.

bleudog

November 23, 2014, 09:38:26 pm #32 Last Edit: November 23, 2014, 10:21:29 pm by bleudog
Quote from: pick_DA_EAGLES on November 23, 2014, 09:31:43 pm
Quote from: HF on November 23, 2014, 09:11:10 pm
Quote from: pick_DA_EAGLES on November 23, 2014, 09:06:10 pm
Quote from: bleudog on November 23, 2014, 07:41:13 pm
http://calpreps.com/2014/ratings/Arkansas_leagues.htm

Thats really a joke IMO, it has the 7 listed above the 3. The 3 still has 2 teams playing and the 7 has 0. When i saw that, i dismissed the rest of the ranking.

I guess its a whole season ranking, but i still say with the 6 still having 4 teams still playing, that speaks for itself.

Dude...When measuring a conference strength you have to take into account the bottom teams. Rector, Midland, and possibly Salem might not win a game in the 7....That's 1/3 of the conference, 2 of those probably struggle to win more than 1 or 2 games in the 4-2A, the consensus worst conference in the state...


Well since ONLY 5 (wish it was 3) teams make the playoffs, that should be what makes the rankings or maybe someone should do one like that.

By your thinking, and the way the top teams in the 7 performed in the playoffs, if their top 3 teams were in the 3,6, or 8. Only one maybe 2 would make the playoffs and that would be as a 4 or 5 seed. I dont care what the bottom teams do, every conference has them, even the 8.


Here ya go pick (sorry HF):

1   Hazen    2A Region 6    25.10
2   Des Arc    2A Region 6    8.10
3   McCrory   2A Region 6    1.90
4   Brinkley    2A Region 6    (0.50)

5   Carlisle    2A Region 6    (16.60)
          3.60
         
1   Junction City    2A Region 8    26.90
2   Rison    2A Region 8    8.30

3   Bearden   2A Region 8    0.10
4   Woodlawn    2A Region 8    (7.90)
5   Hermitage    2A Region 8    (19.40)
          1.60
         
1   Earle   2A Region 3    5.80
2   East Poinsett County   2A Region 3    4.90
3   Cross County    2A Region 3    (1.40)
4   Marked Tree   2A Region 3    (21.10)
5   Walnut Ridge   2A Region 3    (29.60)
          (8.28)
         
1   Conway Christian   2A Region 5    (2.30)
2   England    2A Region 5    (9.20)
3   Magnet Cove    2A Region 5    (10.20)
4   Poyen   2A Region 5    (13.60)
5   Bigelow    2A Region 5    (19.90)
          (11.04)
         
1   Gurdon    2A Region 7    (0.90)
2   Mount Ida    2A Region 7    (8.20)
3   Murfreesboro    2A Region 7    (13.40)
4   Lafayette County   2A Region 7    (14.90)
5   Dierks    2A Region 7    (23.40)
          (12.16)
         
1   Hector   2A Region 4    (9.00)
2   Hackett    2A Region 4    (20.60)
3   Mountainburg    2A Region 4    (27.80)
4   Union Christian Academy    2A Region 4    (28.90)
5   Western Yell County   2A Region 4    (35.90)
          (24.44)

Pick_DA_EAGLES

Bleu, you the man! Now thats how i was seeing the rankings in my head. Thanks.

Pick_DA_EAGLES

Here is something to ponder on as well, Hazen beat 5 teams in the regular season who will all be playing after thanksgiving. Earle, Oceaola, Des Arc, Mccrory and Brinkley. Thats a darn good resume.

Bleu my new question is, whens the last time (if ever) that happened?

HorseFeathers

Quote from: bleudog on November 23, 2014, 09:38:26 pm
Quote from: pick_DA_EAGLES on November 23, 2014, 09:31:43 pm
Quote from: HF on November 23, 2014, 09:11:10 pm
Quote from: pick_DA_EAGLES on November 23, 2014, 09:06:10 pm
Quote from: bleudog on November 23, 2014, 07:41:13 pm
http://calpreps.com/2014/ratings/Arkansas_leagues.htm

Thats really a joke IMO, it has the 7 listed above the 3. The 3 still has 2 teams playing and the 7 has 0. When i saw that, i dismissed the rest of the ranking.

I guess its a whole season ranking, but i still say with the 6 still having 4 teams still playing, that speaks for itself.

Dude...When measuring a conference strength you have to take into account the bottom teams. Rector, Midland, and possibly Salem might not win a game in the 7....That's 1/3 of the conference, 2 of those probably struggle to win more than 1 or 2 games in the 4-2A, the consensus worst conference in the state...


Well since ONLY 5 (wish it was 3) teams make the playoffs, that should be what makes the rankings or maybe someone should do one like that.

By your thinking, and the way the top teams in the 7 performed in the playoffs, if their top 3 teams were in the 3,6, or 8. Only one maybe 2 would make the playoffs and that would be as a 4 or 5 seed. I dont care what the bottom teams do, every conference has them, even the 8.


Here ya go pick (sorry HF):

1   Hazen    2A Region 6    25.10
2   Des Arc    2A Region 6    8.10
3   McCrory   2A Region 6    1.90
4   Brinkley    2A Region 6    (0.50)
5   Carlisle    2A Region 6    (16.60)
          3.60
         
1   Junction City    2A Region 8    26.90
2   Rison    2A Region 8    8.30
3   Bearden   2A Region 8    0.10
4   Woodlawn    2A Region 8    (7.90)
5   Hermitage    2A Region 8    (19.40)
          1.60
         
1   Earle   2A Region 3    5.80
2   East Poinsett County   2A Region 3    4.90
3   Cross County    2A Region 3    (1.40)
4   Marked Tree   2A Region 3    (21.10)
5   Walnut Ridge   2A Region 3    (29.60)
          (8.28)
         
1   Conway Christian   2A Region 5    (2.30)
2   England    2A Region 5    (9.20)
3   Magnet Cove    2A Region 5    (10.20)
4   Poyen   2A Region 5    (13.60)
5   Bigelow    2A Region 5    (19.90)
          (11.04)
         
1   Gurdon    2A Region 7    (0.90)
2   Mount Ida    2A Region 7    (8.20)
3   Murfreesboro    2A Region 7    (13.40)
4   Lafayette County   2A Region 7    (14.90)
5   Dierks    2A Region 7    (23.40)
          (12.16)
         
1   Hector   2A Region 4    (9.00)
2   Hackett    2A Region 4    (20.60)
3   Mountainburg    2A Region 4    (27.80)
4   Union Christian Academy    2A Region 4    (28.90)
5   Western Yell County   2A Region 4    (35.90)
          (24.44)


No need for apologies Bleu, you can spin numbers all day long to show what you want them to :D . . . Heck one of the books in my College Business Statistics class was called How to Lie with Statistics. I'm hoping Pick knows I'm jerking his chain about. Can't argue with on field results, well I guess ya can say they all got Lucky haha

Pick_DA_EAGLES

Quote from: HF on November 23, 2014, 09:52:20 pm
Quote from: bleudog on November 23, 2014, 09:38:26 pm
Quote from: pick_DA_EAGLES on November 23, 2014, 09:31:43 pm
Quote from: HF on November 23, 2014, 09:11:10 pm
Quote from: pick_DA_EAGLES on November 23, 2014, 09:06:10 pm
Quote from: bleudog on November 23, 2014, 07:41:13 pm
http://calpreps.com/2014/ratings/Arkansas_leagues.htm

Thats really a joke IMO, it has the 7 listed above the 3. The 3 still has 2 teams playing and the 7 has 0. When i saw that, i dismissed the rest of the ranking.

I guess its a whole season ranking, but i still say with the 6 still having 4 teams still playing, that speaks for itself.

Dude...When measuring a conference strength you have to take into account the bottom teams. Rector, Midland, and possibly Salem might not win a game in the 7....That's 1/3 of the conference, 2 of those probably struggle to win more than 1 or 2 games in the 4-2A, the consensus worst conference in the state...


Well since ONLY 5 (wish it was 3) teams make the playoffs, that should be what makes the rankings or maybe someone should do one like that.

By your thinking, and the way the top teams in the 7 performed in the playoffs, if their top 3 teams were in the 3,6, or 8. Only one maybe 2 would make the playoffs and that would be as a 4 or 5 seed. I dont care what the bottom teams do, every conference has them, even the 8.


Here ya go pick (sorry HF):

1   Hazen    2A Region 6    25.10
2   Des Arc    2A Region 6    8.10
3   McCrory   2A Region 6    1.90
4   Brinkley    2A Region 6    (0.50)
5   Carlisle    2A Region 6    (16.60)
          3.60
         
1   Junction City    2A Region 8    26.90
2   Rison    2A Region 8    8.30
3   Bearden   2A Region 8    0.10
4   Woodlawn    2A Region 8    (7.90)
5   Hermitage    2A Region 8    (19.40)
          1.60
         
1   Earle   2A Region 3    5.80
2   East Poinsett County   2A Region 3    4.90
3   Cross County    2A Region 3    (1.40)
4   Marked Tree   2A Region 3    (21.10)
5   Walnut Ridge   2A Region 3    (29.60)
          (8.28)
         
1   Conway Christian   2A Region 5    (2.30)
2   England    2A Region 5    (9.20)
3   Magnet Cove    2A Region 5    (10.20)
4   Poyen   2A Region 5    (13.60)
5   Bigelow    2A Region 5    (19.90)
          (11.04)
         
1   Gurdon    2A Region 7    (0.90)
2   Mount Ida    2A Region 7    (8.20)
3   Murfreesboro    2A Region 7    (13.40)
4   Lafayette County   2A Region 7    (14.90)
5   Dierks    2A Region 7    (23.40)
          (12.16)
         
1   Hector   2A Region 4    (9.00)
2   Hackett    2A Region 4    (20.60)
3   Mountainburg    2A Region 4    (27.80)
4   Union Christian Academy    2A Region 4    (28.90)
5   Western Yell County   2A Region 4    (35.90)
          (24.44)


No need for apologies Bleu, you can spin numbers all day long to show what you want them to :D . . . Heck one of the books in my College Business Statistics class was called How to Lie with Statistics. I'm hoping Pick knows I'm jerking his chain about. Can't argue with on field results, well I guess ya can say they all got Lucky haha

I know you are HF. When i said that about the top 3 in the 7, struggling to make the playoffs in the 3,6, or 8. I really wasnt sure that was very accurate, but thanks to Bleu, my guess was almost spot on.

bleudog

November 23, 2014, 10:00:16 pm #37 Last Edit: November 24, 2014, 07:13:24 am by bleudog
Quote from: pick_DA_EAGLES on November 23, 2014, 09:49:27 pm
Here is something to ponder on as well, Hazen beat 5 teams in the regular season who will all be playing after thanksgiving. Earle, Oceaola, Des Arc, Mccrory and Brinkley. Thats a darn good resume.

Bleu my new question is, whens the last time (if ever) that happened?

Junction had a win over seven teams that made their elite eight in 2013:

Des Arc
Carlisle
Hector
Bearden
Strong
Rison
Earle 3A

Pick_DA_EAGLES

Quote from: bleudog on November 23, 2014, 10:00:16 pm
Quote from: pick_DA_EAGLES on November 23, 2014, 09:49:27 pm
Here is something to ponder on as well, Hazen beat 5 teams in the regular season who will all be playing after thanksgiving. Earle, Oceaola, Des Arc, Mccrory and Brinkley. Thats a darn good resume.

Bleu my new question is, whens the last time (if ever) that happened?

Junction had at least one win over seven teams that made their elite eight in 2013:

Des Arc
Carlisle
Hector
Bearden
Strong
Rison
Earle 3A OOC

Thanks! I knew you would know. That was last year, right?

bleudog

November 23, 2014, 10:04:03 pm #39 Last Edit: November 23, 2014, 10:10:23 pm by bleudog
Quote from: HF on November 23, 2014, 09:52:20 pm
No need for apologies Bleu, you can spin numbers all day long to show what you want them to :D . . . Heck one of the books in my College Business Statistics class was called How to Lie with Statistics. I'm hoping Pick knows I'm jerking his chain about. Can't argue with on field results, well I guess ya can say they all got Lucky haha

The version I always liked was: Figures don't lie but liars can figure.  ;D

But I like Calpreps way of looking at things.  Performance in the AAA bracket can literally be a case of luck of the draw.

Pick_DA_EAGLES

Quote from: bleudog on November 23, 2014, 10:04:03 pm
Quote from: HF on November 23, 2014, 09:52:20 pm
No need for apologies Bleu, you can spin numbers all day long to show what you want them to :D . . . Heck one of the books in my College Business Statistics class was called How to Lie with Statistics. I'm hoping Pick knows I'm jerking his chain about. Can't argue with on field results, well I guess ya can say they all got Lucky haha

The version I always liked was: Figures don't lie but liars can figure.  ;D

But I like Calpreps way of looking at things.  Performance in the AAA bracket can literally a case of luck of the draw.

True, but Brinkley beating Woodlawn, both 4 seeds solidified my argument about the 6, for now. If Hazen beats Rison friday, it will make it even better. I give yall j.c. as the top team without question, but thats it, at least until Friday night about 9:30. Lol

bleudog

November 23, 2014, 10:09:58 pm #41 Last Edit: November 24, 2014, 07:14:17 am by bleudog
Quote from: pick_DA_EAGLES on November 23, 2014, 10:02:40 pm
Quote from: bleudog on November 23, 2014, 10:00:16 pm
Quote from: pick_DA_EAGLES on November 23, 2014, 09:49:27 pm
Here is something to ponder on as well, Hazen beat 5 teams in the regular season who will all be playing after thanksgiving. Earle, Oceaola, Des Arc, Mccrory and Brinkley. Thats a darn good resume.

Bleu my new question is, whens the last time (if ever) that happened?

Junction had a win over seven teams that made their elite eight in 2013:

Des Arc
Carlisle
Hector
Bearden
Strong
Rison
Earle 3A

Thanks! I knew you would know. That was last year, right?

I didn't pick up on your regular season qualifier so that JC count for 2013 would be four.  I don't really have a clue what other teams might have come close.  Junction did open the 2009 season with a victory over eventual 3A champ Fountain Lake.

Pick_DA_EAGLES

Quote from: bleudog on November 23, 2014, 10:09:58 pm
Quote from: pick_DA_EAGLES on November 23, 2014, 10:02:40 pm
Quote from: bleudog on November 23, 2014, 10:00:16 pm
Quote from: pick_DA_EAGLES on November 23, 2014, 09:49:27 pm
Here is something to ponder on as well, Hazen beat 5 teams in the regular season who will all be playing after thanksgiving. Earle, Oceaola, Des Arc, Mccrory and Brinkley. Thats a darn good resume.

Bleu my new question is, whens the last time (if ever) that happened?

Junction had at least one win over seven teams that made their elite eight in 2013:

Des Arc
Carlisle
Hector
Bearden
Strong
Rison
Earle 3A OOC

Thanks! I knew you would know. That was last year, right?

I didn't pick up on your regular season qualifier so that JC count for 2013 would be four.  I don't really have a clue what other teams might have come close.

Lol, heck i was going with you on it. I wasn't even thinking about it like that, if hazen was to win out, their number would be 8.

bleudog

Quote from: pick_DA_EAGLES on November 23, 2014, 10:07:37 pm
Quote from: bleudog on November 23, 2014, 10:04:03 pm
Quote from: HF on November 23, 2014, 09:52:20 pm
No need for apologies Bleu, you can spin numbers all day long to show what you want them to :D . . . Heck one of the books in my College Business Statistics class was called How to Lie with Statistics. I'm hoping Pick knows I'm jerking his chain about. Can't argue with on field results, well I guess ya can say they all got Lucky haha

The version I always liked was: Figures don't lie but liars can figure.  ;D

But I like Calpreps way of looking at things.  Performance in the AAA bracket can literally a case of luck of the draw.

True, but Brinkley beating Woodlawn, both 4 seeds solidified my argument about the 6, for now. If Hazen beats Rison friday, it will make it even better. I give yall j.c. as the top team without question, but thats it, at least until Friday night about 9:30. Lol

Great example about draw.  Per Calpreps, Rison is an underdog to Hazen.  Rison would be a favorite against either Brinkley or McCrory. 

Pick_DA_EAGLES

Quote from: bleudog on November 23, 2014, 10:17:50 pm
Quote from: pick_DA_EAGLES on November 23, 2014, 10:07:37 pm
Quote from: bleudog on November 23, 2014, 10:04:03 pm
Quote from: HF on November 23, 2014, 09:52:20 pm
No need for apologies Bleu, you can spin numbers all day long to show what you want them to :D . . . Heck one of the books in my College Business Statistics class was called How to Lie with Statistics. I'm hoping Pick knows I'm jerking his chain about. Can't argue with on field results, well I guess ya can say they all got Lucky haha

The version I always liked was: Figures don't lie but liars can figure.  ;D

But I like Calpreps way of looking at things.  Performance in the AAA bracket can literally a case of luck of the draw.

True, but Brinkley beating Woodlawn, both 4 seeds solidified my argument about the 6, for now. If Hazen beats Rison friday, it will make it even better. I give yall j.c. as the top team without question, but thats it, at least until Friday night about 9:30. Lol

Great example about draw.  Per Calpreps, Rison is an underdog to Hazen.  Rison would be a favorite against either Brinkley or McCrory.

As they should, being a 2, vs a 3 or 4. Rison and Des Arc would be a toss up i guess. Not much difference in their respected rankings.

bleudog

November 23, 2014, 10:25:06 pm #45 Last Edit: November 24, 2014, 08:47:35 am by bleudog
Quote from: pick_DA_EAGLES on November 23, 2014, 10:21:09 pm
Quote from: bleudog on November 23, 2014, 10:17:50 pm
Quote from: pick_DA_EAGLES on November 23, 2014, 10:07:37 pm
Quote from: bleudog on November 23, 2014, 10:04:03 pm
Quote from: HF on November 23, 2014, 09:52:20 pm
No need for apologies Bleu, you can spin numbers all day long to show what you want them to :D . . . Heck one of the books in my College Business Statistics class was called How to Lie with Statistics. I'm hoping Pick knows I'm jerking his chain about. Can't argue with on field results, well I guess ya can say they all got Lucky haha

The version I always liked was: Figures don't lie but liars can figure.  ;D

But I like Calpreps way of looking at things.  Performance in the AAA bracket can literally a case of luck of the draw.

True, but Brinkley beating Woodlawn, both 4 seeds solidified my argument about the 6, for now. If Hazen beats Rison friday, it will make it even better. I give yall j.c. as the top team without question, but thats it, at least until Friday night about 9:30. Lol

Great example about draw.  Per Calpreps, Rison is an underdog to Hazen.  Rison would be a favorite against either Brinkley or McCrory.

As they should, being a 2, vs a 3 or 4. Rison and Des Arc would be a toss up i guess. Not much difference in their respected rankings.

I was referencing Calpreps power rating.  Again, no disrespect to HF, but all #1 seeds aren't created equal.

Another example of draw is Bearden having to go against JC in the second round.  Calpreps has Bearden as the #8 team in their ranking but the Bears are playing basketball right now due in large part to the bracket.  Bearden might have made the quarter finals playing against a different #1 seed in the second round.

In this years's bracket, the #1 and#3 from the 2A-8 met in the second round.  It could have just as easily been the #1 and #3 from the 2A-6 meeting in the second round.  That part of the AAA bracket is arbitary.

HorseFeathers

Bleu...haters are gonna hate :D...Oh well we started off basketball season thumping a 4A school that was only missing one starter due to football...Guess we'll see you guys at state this year...maybe we'll win a game or two there this year :D


bleudog

November 23, 2014, 10:33:39 pm #47 Last Edit: November 24, 2014, 08:43:10 am by bleudog
Quote from: HF on November 23, 2014, 10:27:30 pm
Bleu...haters are gonna hate :D...Oh well we started off basketball season thumping a 4A school that was only missing one starter due to football...Guess we'll see you guys at state this year...maybe we'll win a game or two there this year :D

Hating part of what message board are for.  ;D

Hopefully JC can make a basketball run this year. 8)

But in all brackets it all boils down to what Connor MacLeod said, "There can be only one!"

Pick_DA_EAGLES

Quote from: bleudog on November 23, 2014, 10:25:06 pm
Quote from: pick_DA_EAGLES on November 23, 2014, 10:21:09 pm
Quote from: bleudog on November 23, 2014, 10:17:50 pm
Quote from: pick_DA_EAGLES on November 23, 2014, 10:07:37 pm
Quote from: bleudog on November 23, 2014, 10:04:03 pm
Quote from: HF on November 23, 2014, 09:52:20 pm
No need for apologies Bleu, you can spin numbers all day long to show what you want them to :D . . . Heck one of the books in my College Business Statistics class was called How to Lie with Statistics. I'm hoping Pick knows I'm jerking his chain about. Can't argue with on field results, well I guess ya can say they all got Lucky haha

The version I always liked was: Figures don't lie but liars can figure.  ;D

But I like Calpreps way of looking at things.  Performance in the AAA bracket can literally a case of luck of the draw.

True, but Brinkley beating Woodlawn, both 4 seeds solidified my argument about the 6, for now. If Hazen beats Rison friday, it will make it even better. I give yall j.c. as the top team without question, but thats it, at least until Friday night about 9:30. Lol

Great example about draw.  Per Calpreps, Rison is an underdog to Hazen.  Rison would be a favorite against either Brinkley or McCrory.

As they should, being a 2, vs a 3 or 4. Rison and Des Arc would be a toss up i guess. Not much difference in their respected rankings.

I was referencing Calpreps power rating.  Again, no disrespect to HF, but all #1 seeds aren't created equal.

Another example of draw is Bearden having to go against JC in the second round.  Calpreps has Bearden as the #8 team in their ranking but the Bears are playing basketball right now due to the bracket.  They might have made the quarter finals playing against a different #1 seed.

I agree bleu. Wish we had a different way of seeding teams.

HorseFeathers

Quote from: pick_DA_EAGLES on November 23, 2014, 10:34:43 pm
Quote from: bleudog on November 23, 2014, 10:25:06 pm
Quote from: pick_DA_EAGLES on November 23, 2014, 10:21:09 pm
Quote from: bleudog on November 23, 2014, 10:17:50 pm
Quote from: pick_DA_EAGLES on November 23, 2014, 10:07:37 pm
Quote from: bleudog on November 23, 2014, 10:04:03 pm
Quote from: HF on November 23, 2014, 09:52:20 pm
No need for apologies Bleu, you can spin numbers all day long to show what you want them to :D . . . Heck one of the books in my College Business Statistics class was called How to Lie with Statistics. I'm hoping Pick knows I'm jerking his chain about. Can't argue with on field results, well I guess ya can say they all got Lucky haha

The version I always liked was: Figures don't lie but liars can figure.  ;D

But I like Calpreps way of looking at things.  Performance in the AAA bracket can literally a case of luck of the draw.

True, but Brinkley beating Woodlawn, both 4 seeds solidified my argument about the 6, for now. If Hazen beats Rison friday, it will make it even better. I give yall j.c. as the top team without question, but thats it, at least until Friday night about 9:30. Lol

Great example about draw.  Per Calpreps, Rison is an underdog to Hazen.  Rison would be a favorite against either Brinkley or McCrory.

As they should, being a 2, vs a 3 or 4. Rison and Des Arc would be a toss up i guess. Not much difference in their respected rankings.

I was referencing Calpreps power rating.  Again, no disrespect to HF, but all #1 seeds aren't created equal.

Another example of draw is Bearden having to go against JC in the second round.  Calpreps has Bearden as the #8 team in their ranking but the Bears are playing basketball right now due to the bracket.  They might have made the quarter finals playing against a different #1 seed.

I agree bleu. Wish we had a different way of seeding teams.

Could have been worse lol...3A had a 1 vs 2 from the same conference in the second round this year...the 2 seed got payback.

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