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Bubble screen

Started by WHITEchicken, January 11, 2019, 11:18:56 am

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WHITEchicken

What do you all think of a bubble screen on the last play of the game? Predictable? Chance of scoring? Just want to hear some thoughts on it.

Dayton Kitchens

Quote from: WHITEchicken on January 11, 2019, 11:18:56 am
What do you all think of a bubble screen on the last play of the game? Predictable? Chance of scoring? Just want to hear some thoughts on it.

If you're ahead 9 or more points I would consider it a bad idea.

Jimbo Morphis

Quote from: Dayton Kitchens on January 11, 2019, 01:57:06 pm
If you're ahead 9 or more points I would consider it a bad idea.
Scared they'll get a pick 10 on the last play and win the game?

CoolBreeze

Quote from: Oldman on January 11, 2019, 03:47:47 pm
Scared they'll get a pick 10 on the last play and win the game?
That would be a neat trick.

Dayton Kitchens

Quote from: Oldman on January 11, 2019, 03:47:47 pm
Scared they'll get a pick 10 on the last play and win the game?

My point is simply that without knowing a lot more details answering this kind of question is completely impossible.

WHITEchicken

Up 7
Great line
Running the Wing T.
Good call or no?

HorseFeathers

Quote from: WHITEchicken on January 12, 2019, 12:31:12 pm
Up 7
Great line
Running the Wing T.
Good call or no?

If it works noone whines...if it does, you are an idiot coach that should be fired....well that's what the fans would say 🤷

Dayton Kitchens

Quote from: WHITEchicken on January 12, 2019, 12:31:12 pm
Up 7
Great line
Running the Wing T.
Good call or no?

If you are up 7 why are you running anything the last play of the game aside from the QB kneel down?

ISU7

Quote from: Dayton Kitchens on January 12, 2019, 04:11:24 pm
If you are up 7 why are you running anything the last play of the game aside from the QB kneel down?
;D ;D ;D ;D That's what I was thinking.

Dr. Defense

Quote from: WHITEchicken on January 11, 2019, 11:18:56 am
What do you all think of a bubble screen on the last play of the game? Predictable? Chance of scoring? Just want to hear some thoughts on it.

Depends on many factors. What formation are you using? How is the defense lined up? What coverage are they playing? Do you have the numbers at the point of attack to make it successful? Where are you on the field? I'm sure if you give me time I can think of a few more 😂

WHITEchicken


MR#1

"What's a bubble screen?" --- Rison fan

Dayton Kitchens

Quote from: MR#1 on January 14, 2019, 09:32:01 am
"What's a bubble screen?" --- Rison fan

Wide receiver screen,  often to the wide side of the field.    Considered a quick hitting play.   Given that it means fewer blockers ahead of the ball carrier than in other screen plays.

Jimbo Morphis

Quote from: Dayton Kitchens on January 14, 2019, 12:10:15 pm
Wide receiver screen,  often to the wide side of the field.    Considered a quick hitting play.   Given that it means fewer blockers ahead of the ball carrier than in other screen plays.
Pretty sure he was joking that it's not in their playbook.

HorseFeathers

Quote from: MR#1 on January 14, 2019, 09:32:01 am
"What's a bubble screen?" --- Rison fan

Isn't throwing the ball illegal?

Dr. Defense

Quote from: HorseFeathers on January 14, 2019, 01:11:58 pm
Isn't throwing the ball illegal?

If not it should be. 3 things can happen when you throw the ball and 2 of them are bad

Dayton Kitchens

Just off hand last play of the game to run an effective bubble screen you need to be at least 40 yards from the end zone.    Otherwise the defensive secondary won't be backed off far enough (to defend against a final play bomb) to give your receiver room to maneuver after the catch. 

youhavenoidea

Quote from: Dr. Defense on January 14, 2019, 02:51:10 pm
If not it should be. 3 things can happen when you throw the ball and 2 of them are bad
I've heard this for years and wondered why nobody has ever corrected it...what about pass interference, roughing the passer, offensive holding

Dr. Defense

Quote from: youhavenoidea on January 15, 2019, 09:07:54 am
I've heard this for years and wondered why nobody has ever corrected it...what about pass interference, roughing the passer, offensive holding
Correction 6 things can happen 5 are bad

youhavenoidea

Quote from: Dr. Defense on January 15, 2019, 09:34:07 am
Correction 6 things can happen 5 are bad
Bad for Who? Pass interference good for offense, roughing passer good for Offense

HorseFeathers

Quote from: youhavenoidea on January 15, 2019, 10:25:46 am
Bad for Who? Pass interference good for offense, roughing passer good for Offense


I always liked seeing my quarterback taking a meaningless hit after he threw the ball

CoolBreeze

Quote from: youhavenoidea on January 15, 2019, 09:07:54 am
I've heard this for years and wondered why nobody has ever corrected it...what about pass interference, roughing the passer, offensive holding
If I remember correctly, this was a quote from a old-time coach to justify why he preferred to keep the ball on the ground. His point was that passing the ball is a risky proposition. Many of the best quarterbacks fail more than a third of the time.

What he didn't account for is that there are significant rewards to offset the risk.

Dayton Kitchens

You can just as easily say (correctly) "when you run the ball,  four things can happen and three of them are bad".

Dr. Defense

Quote from: Dayton Kitchens on January 15, 2019, 01:55:37 pm
You can just as easily say (correctly) "when you run the ball,  four things can happen and three of them are bad".

But running the ball is much easier and more fun

fffan

Quote from: MR#1 on January 14, 2019, 09:32:01 am
"What's a bubble screen?" --- Rison fan

I don't care who ya are, that's funny right there!   ;D ;D

Dayton Kitchens

Quote from: Dr. Defense on January 15, 2019, 02:39:31 pm
But running the ball is much easier and more fun

All those coaches switching to spread offenses would seem to disagree with you.

MR#1

Quote from: fffan on January 15, 2019, 03:51:43 pm
I don't care who ya are, that's funny right there!   ;D ;D

Glad a couple of folks got it.  :)

Dr. Defense

Quote from: Dayton Kitchens on January 15, 2019, 04:29:06 pm
All those coaches switching to spread offenses would seem to disagree with you.

All the coaches switching to the spread are wrong

youhavenoidea

Quote from: HorseFeathers on January 15, 2019, 12:16:52 pm
I always liked seeing my quarterback taking a meaningless hit after he threw the ball
If it gives us 15yds and he's okay...then yeah all day, plus with the way rules are now it doesn't take much to get it

1wildcat

Quote from: MR#1 on January 15, 2019, 08:16:54 pm
Glad a couple of folks got it.  :)
Would be a great trick play for us to open the season with a bubble screen on the first play against Fordyce, it might even score.  ;D

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