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MT Legend

What are y'all talking about? Did Rivercrest not beat you by 34? Your beneath them just like MT is beneath JC. Another victim? Exactly how was I victimized? Just curious.

bleudog

Quote from: MT Legend on July 09, 2018, 02:44:38 pm
.....................Na Rivercrest took care of y'all for us. Big Brother got our revenge it took him 6 years to catch up with you. But when he found you he crushed you. Don't mess with big bad Rivercrest. They a whole nother animal then MT. MT is beneath JC and JC is beneath Rivercrest.

Well, if you ever get tired of sucking up to the school down the road from Marked Tree (where you appear to be a legend), here're some other bandwagons you could jump on.  These are all of JC's 36 losses over the last 20 years.  The Bearden loss in 2010 was the only one where JC was mercy ruled.  The Dragons scored late to avoid the shutout and get back under 35.  The sort is by margin of loss.  I've marked the two state championship losses.  There should be 12 others that were second round or deeper playoff games.

2001   Camden Harmony Grove    0    34    (34)
2017   Rivercrest   14    48    (34)  3A state championship
2010   Bearden                8    35    (27)
2010   Rison                  7    31    (24)
2002   Harding Academy        19    41    (22)
2007   Bearden                6    28    (22)
2001   Shiloh Christian        0    21    (21)
2002   Mansfield, LA          21    41    (20)
2005   Smackover              21    41    (20)
2010   Bearden                8    27    (19)
2005   Charleston              8    24    (16)
2000   Charleston              14    28    (14)
2005   McGehee                7    20    (13)
2011   Rison                  14    27    (13)
2015   Haynesville, LA   20    33    (13)
2016   Fordyce   13    26    (13)
2004   Rison                  0    10    (10)
2011   Strong                  19    29    (10)
2010   Strong                  14    22    (8)
2012   Earle   7    14    (7)
1998   Harding Academy        14    20    (6)
1999   Shiloh Christian        64    70    (6)
2005   Homer, LA              20    26    (6)
2004   McGehee                21    26    (5)
2015   Conway Cristian   36    41    (5)
2016   England   26    31    (5)
2000   Rison                  21    25    (4)
2016   Haynesville, LA   26    30    (4)
2004   Gurdon                  15    18    (3)
2007   Mount Ida              20    22    (2)
2009   Bearden                12    14    (2)
2001   Hampton                12    13    (1)
2006   Camden Harmony Grove    6    7    (1)
2006   Jessieville            19    20    (1)  2A state championship
2015   Rison                  14    15    (1)
2016   Rivercrest   13    14    (1)

MT Legend

Quote from: bleudog on July 10, 2018, 02:22:48 pm
Well, if you ever get tired of sucking up to the school down the road from Marked Tree (where you appear to be a legend), here're some other bandwagons you could jump on.  These are all of JC's 36 losses over the last 20 years.  The Bearden loss in 2010 was the only one where JC was mercy ruled.  The Dragons scored late to avoid the shutout and get back under 35.  The sort is by margin of loss.  I've marked the two state championship losses.  There should be 12 others that were second round or deeper playoff games.

2001   Camden Harmony Grove    0    34    (34)
2017   Rivercrest   14    48    (34)  3A state championship
2010   Bearden                8    35    (27)
2010   Rison                  7    31    (24)
2002   Harding Academy        19    41    (22)
2007   Bearden                6    28    (22)
2001   Shiloh Christian        0    21    (21)
2002   Mansfield, LA          21    41    (20)
2005   Smackover              21    41    (20)
2010   Bearden                8    27    (19)
2005   Charleston              8    24    (16)
2000   Charleston              14    28    (14)
2005   McGehee                7    20    (13)
2011   Rison                  14    27    (13)
2015   Haynesville, LA   20    33    (13)
2016   Fordyce   13    26    (13)
2004   Rison                  0    10    (10)
2011   Strong                  19    29    (10)
2010   Strong                  14    22    (8)
2012   Earle   7    14    (7)
1998   Harding Academy        14    20    (6)
1999   Shiloh Christian        64    70    (6)
2005   Homer, LA              20    26    (6)
2004   McGehee                21    26    (5)
2015   Conway Cristian   36    41    (5)
2016   England   26    31    (5)
2000   Rison                  21    25    (4)
2016   Haynesville, LA   26    30    (4)
2004   Gurdon                  15    18    (3)
2007   Mount Ida              20    22    (2)
2009   Bearden                12    14    (2)
2001   Hampton                12    13    (1)
2006   Camden Harmony Grove    6    7    (1)
2006   Jessieville            19    20    (1)  2A state championship
2015   Rison                  14    15    (1)
2016   Rivercrest   13    14    (1)
lol. And Rivercrest would have beat those teams. The Colts is the Big Brother in these parts.in football anyway they always will be the Man in NEA.when I'm home I usually go watch the Colts play. We all grow up with one another so it's not hard to support Rivercrest. I just keep it real yeah MT is my school it's just not a football town.Its Basketball Basketball and more Basketball. Basketball will always be King in MT.

bleudog

Quote from: MT Legend on July 10, 2018, 02:48:12 pm
lol. And Rivercrest would have beat those teams. ........

Your premise piques my interest.

Here's how Calpreps sees the hypothetical games (as far back as their program goes):

[2003] Junction City (AR) 28, [2003] Rivercrest (Wilson, AR) 26
[2004] Rivercrest (Wilson, AR) 22, [2004] Junction City (AR) 21
[2005] Junction City (AR) 27, [2005] Rivercrest (Wilson, AR) 14
[2006] Junction City (AR) 35, [2006] Rivercrest (Wilson, AR) 20
[2007] Junction City (AR) 40, [2007] Rivercrest (Wilson, AR) 3
[2008] Junction City (AR) 44, [2008] Rivercrest (Wilson, AR) 6
[2009] Junction City (AR) 28, [2009] Rivercrest (Wilson, AR) 14
[2010] Rivercrest (Wilson, AR) 31, [2010] Junction City (AR) 10
[2011] Junction City (AR) 19, [2011] Rivercrest (Wilson, AR) 8
[2012] Junction City (AR) 28, [2012] Rivercrest (Wilson, AR) 10
[2013] Junction City (AR) 31, [2013] Rivercrest (Wilson, AR) 8
[2014] Junction City (AR) 48, [2014] Rivercrest (Wilson, AR) 6
[2015] Rivercrest (Wilson, AR) 21, [2015] Junction City (AR) 17


And we know how the actual two turned out:

[2016] Rivercrest (Wilson, AR) 14, [2016] Junction City (AR) 13

[2017] Rivercrest (Wilson, AR) 48, [2017] Junction City (AR) 14



Here's the link if you want to try some others:
http://www.calpreps.com/cgi-bin/2018/project_matchup.pl


P.S.  That 2003 Rivercrest team must have been stout.  The 2003 JC team is arguably considered the strongest team the Dragons have ever fielded.


HG Hornet

I remember that 2001 game.  Those Hornet teams from 2000-2002 were very good.  Hornets were swarmin' that night! 

MT Legend

A prediction is your argument? Lol come on man you playing right? You can't be serious with this. 😮🤦🏾‍♂️

bleudog

Quote from: CHG Hornet on July 10, 2018, 03:22:16 pm
I remember that 2001 game.  Those Hornet teams from 2000-2002 were very good.  Hornets were swarmin' that night! 

Must have been.  To hang 34 on and skunk a David Carpenter team was an accomplishment.

bleudog

Quote from: MT Legend on July 10, 2018, 03:27:57 pm
A prediction is your argument? Lol come on man you playing right? You can't be serious with this. 😮🤦🏾‍♂️

No, it's called an algorithm.  And when actuals can't be determined, most reasonable people consider algorithms to carry more weight than enlightened statements such as, "And Rivercrest would have beat those teams."  ;D

Hey, Calpreps projections could have gone the other way.  It's not my formula.

HG Hornet

Quote from: bleudog on July 10, 2018, 03:32:02 pm
Must have been.  To hang 34 on and skunk a David Carpenter team was an accomplishment.
That bunch that I'm thinking about were seniors in the Fall of 2001.....Ronald Askew, Pierre Billingley, Bo Ward, Josh Green, and I'm sure I'm forgetting some others, were very good athletes.  They were mean!

MT Legend

All that matters is on the field.Everything else is irrelevant. 0-2 vs Rivercrest in your schools history.Thats what we do know. 1-0 vs my school in your schools history. These are all facts. Rivercrest owns JC. Don't feel bad though Rivercrest owns a lot of teams through out its history.

bleudog

Quote from: MT Legend on July 10, 2018, 03:46:51 pm
All that matters is on the field.Everything else is irrelevant. 0-2 vs Rivercrest in your schools history.Thats what we do know. 1-0 vs my school in your schools history. These are all facts. Rivercrest owns JC. Don't feel bad though Rivercrest owns a lot of teams through out its history.

I like history.  ;D

164-27-1   85%            1260-914-8    58%
121-59-1   67%            1085-936-7    54%


http://calpreps.com/Arkansas_dynasty_ratings.htm

MT Legend

Quote from: bleudog on July 10, 2018, 03:58:39 pm
I like history.  ;D

164-27-1   85%            1260-914-8    58%
121-59-1   67%            1085-936-7    54%


http://calpreps.com/Arkansas_dynasty_ratings.htm
i to love history against Rivercrest your 0% 😆

bleudog

Quote from: MT Legend on July 10, 2018, 04:02:34 pm
i to love history against Rivercrest your 0% 😆

I think JC is 0-2 against U$C too. Also with a close game and a not so close game.  All four games in the playoffs  So that is a select group even if one was a private football factory and the other had a classification advantage.   A larger sample size of games played would be nice so a proper statistical trend could be established.

But a history of 8 December trips to WMS in 15 years with 6 championship kind of makes those two 0-2 blips a little more palatable.  ;D

MT Legend

I don't know who usc is in high school terms that is.I was just saying Rivercrest is and will always be a Football school and when you play Football schools that live and breathe the sport.48-14 games will happen and most of the time it goes in the favor of the more dominant program.Rivercrest proved it is the more Dominant Program on the Scoreboard.

bleudog

Quote from: MT Legend on July 11, 2018, 06:16:59 am
I don't know who usc is in high school terms that is.I was just saying Rivercrest is and will always be a Football school and when you play Football schools that live and breathe the sport.48-14 games will happen and most of the time it goes in the favor of the more dominant program.Rivercrest proved it is the more Dominant Program on the Scoreboard.

U$C is Shiloh Christian.  It was a pretty common name for them back in their 2A days.

In the 2017 state 3A championship, Rivercrest proved it was clearly the better team at least for that night.

The year before, Rivercrest won the game, but in that game, dominant wasn't a word that a reasonable person would use for either team.  That one ended 14-13 with Rivercrest taking the lead very late in the game.  It was played on Rivercrest's field in horrible weather conditions.  A decision to go for it on fourth down late in the game and poor execution on the play gave Rivercrest an opportunity to win and they took advantage of that opportunity.  It could have easily gone either way.  The game wasn't played well, but it was a competitive game.

Rivercrest has shown years where they have exceptional teams, but a "Dominant Program" dosen't have 6 losing seasons (five in a row) over 15 years (assuming FF is accurate).   

2017: Rivercrest wins for 2017    13 (15 games)
2016: Rivercrest wins for 2016     9 (13 games)
2015: Rivercrest wins for 2015    11 (15 games)
2014: Rivercrest wins for 2014    5 (11 games)
2013: Rivercrest wins for 2013    7 (11 games)
2012: Rivercrest wins for 2012    9 (12 games)
2011: Rivercrest wins for 2011    8 (11 games)
2010: Rivercrest wins for 2010    15 (15 games)
2009: Rivercrest wins for 2009    10 (13 games)
2008: Rivercrest wins for 2008    5 (11 games)
2007: Rivercrest wins for 2007    2 (10 games)
2006: Rivercrest wins for 2006    3 (10 games)
2005: Rivercrest wins for 2005    3 (8 games)
2004: Rivercrest wins for 2004    5 (11 games
)
2003: Rivercrest wins for 2003    13 (15 games)



http://www.fearlessfriday.com/school/Rivercrest.html


THA TRUTH


MT Legend

Quote from: bleudog on July 11, 2018, 09:38:14 am
U$C is Shiloh Christian.  It was a pretty common name for them back in their 2A days.

In the 2017 state 3A championship, Rivercrest proved it was clearly the better team at least for that night.

The year before, Rivercrest won the game, but in that game, dominant wasn't a word that a reasonable person would use for either team.  That one ended 14-13 with Rivercrest taking the lead very late in the game.  It was played on Rivercrest's field in horrible weather conditions.  A decision to go for it on fourth down late in the game and poor execution on the play gave Rivercrest an opportunity to win and they took advantage of that opportunity.  It could have easily gone either way.  The game wasn't played well, but it was a competitive game.

Rivercrest has shown years where they have exceptional teams, but a "Dominant Program" dosen't have 6 losing seasons (five in a row) over 15 years (assuming FF is accurate).   

2017: Rivercrest wins for 2017    13 (15 games)
2016: Rivercrest wins for 2016     9 (13 games)
2015: Rivercrest wins for 2015    11 (15 games)
2014: Rivercrest wins for 2014    5 (11 games)
2013: Rivercrest wins for 2013    7 (11 games)
2012: Rivercrest wins for 2012    9 (12 games)
2011: Rivercrest wins for 2011    8 (11 games)
2010: Rivercrest wins for 2010    15 (15 games)
2009: Rivercrest wins for 2009    10 (13 games)
2008: Rivercrest wins for 2008    5 (11 games)
2007: Rivercrest wins for 2007    2 (10 games)
2006: Rivercrest wins for 2006    3 (10 games)
2005: Rivercrest wins for 2005    3 (8 games)
2004: Rivercrest wins for 2004    5 (11 games
)
2003: Rivercrest wins for 2003    13 (15 games)



http://www.fearlessfriday.com/school/Rivercrest.html
please stop it. Rivercrest would have 50 rings if they played in the 2A 😂 you only got 6? In the 3A you might have 1. The fact you only have 6 is not impressive. You should have 37 like Little Rock Central. Now that's impressive what they have done cause they did it against the best competitors in the state.news flash outside JC and maybe the 2A guys on this site. No one is impressed. Why don't you play and beat Warren or Rivercrest and then I will see you.


MT Legend

Quote from: THA TRUTH on July 11, 2018, 09:46:59 am
Rivercrest just played Jc at the right time
please explain your reasoning for this post. I'm not sure how to respond to this.you have given limited information to go along with your reasoning.

bleudog

Quote from: MT Legend on July 11, 2018, 04:10:29 pm
please stop it. Rivercrest would have 50 rings if they played in the 2A 😂 you only got 6? In the 3A you might have 1. The fact you only have 6 is not impressive. You should have 37 like Little Rock Central. Now that's impressive what they have done cause they did it against the best competitors in the state.news flash outside JC and maybe the 2A guys on this site. No one is impressed. Why don't you play and beat Warren or Rivercrest and then I will see you.

I didn't realize you have such difficulty grasping the concept school size and classification.  My apologies.

MT Legend

Quote from: bleudog on July 11, 2018, 04:35:52 pm
I didn't realize you have such difficulty grasping the concept school size and classification.  My apologies.
na I'm pretty sure School size has nothing to do with it. Last I recall both teams can only have 11 at a time on the field. Sounds like and excuse to me.

bleudog

Quote from: MT Legend on July 11, 2018, 04:42:01 pm
na I’m pretty sure School size has nothing to do with it. Last I recall both teams can only have 11 at a time on the field. Sounds like and excuse to me.


eldofan

School size matters . Bigger schools have more male students to choose from which in return puts more depth on the field . A lot of small schools can play  with bigger  schools for a few quarters but depth gets the smaller school everytime

MT Legend


MT Legend

Quote from: eldofan on July 11, 2018, 04:47:32 pm
School size matters . Bigger schools have more male students to choose from which in return puts more depth on the field . A lot of small schools can play  with bigger  schools for a few quarters but depth gets the smaller school everytime
ok sir, how sympathetic was the jc faithful when you were playing and beating schools who could barely field a football team? Did you all say poor hermitage they can barely field a team. "Nope" you could careless when you had the gun. Now that the rabbit has the gun. You want to cry School size matters. "Hypocrites"

eldofan

I'm not JC. Read my screen name before  you call me anything

MT Legend

Quote from: eldofan on July 11, 2018, 04:57:36 pm
I'm not JC. Read my screen name before  you call me anything
my apologies then sir. They know who they are though.

bleudog

Quote from: eldofan on July 11, 2018, 04:57:36 pm
I'm not JC. Read my screen name before  you call me anything

You might as well give up on him eldo, he's past the point of no return.


MT Legend

Quote from: bleudog on July 11, 2018, 05:29:39 pm
You might as well give up on him eldo, he's past the point of no return.


so the truth is now labeled as stupid. Liberals Alert 😀

HorseFeathers

Well of course school size doesn't matter...especially when you're a 4a size school playing against a 2a Size school in the 3a Championship.

More students = More talent(in most cases)...who cares if only 11 can play at a time. If you have twice as many kids to choose from, chances are you'll find more and possibly better talent to fill those 11 spots, but those facts don't fit the agenda and/or the trolling going on here...

MT Legend

Quote from: HorseFeathers on July 13, 2018, 11:45:41 am
Well of course school size doesn't matter...especially when you're a 4a size school playing against a 2a Size school in the 3a Championship.

More students = More talent(in most cases)...who cares if only 11 can play at a time. If you have twice as many kids to choose from, chances are you'll find more and possibly better talent to fill those 11 spots, but those facts don't fit the agenda and/or the trolling going on here...
MT played and beat westside.I believe they are a 4A School. I watched that game on NFHS network it look to me like Jc had more kids then Rivercrest. It also looked like Rivercrest had a lot of guys playing both ways. No trolling from my end. Im just dropping them Facts.

THA TRUTH


MT Legend


ISU7

Quote from: MT Legend on July 10, 2018, 03:27:57 pm
A prediction is your argument? Lol come on man you playing right? You can't be serious with this. 😮🤦🏾‍♂️
Lol somebody from Strong still hasn't got over that JC 2017 State Title lost. I really love that run through before the game which read "Next stop jewelry shop" well i can say one thing they certainly didn't go to Jared's I was there that Saturday morning. lol ;D

MT Legend

Quote from: ISU7 on July 13, 2018, 03:23:42 pm
Lol somebody from Strong still hasn't got over that JC 2017 State Title lost. I really love that run through before the game which read "Next stop jewelry shop" well i can say one thing they certainly didn't go to Jared's I was there that Saturday morning. lol ;D
lol, Finally some Real facts. Crying about school size is all I'm seeing here. Maybe now they back in 2A they can get them another cheap ring and they will all be happy.

ISU7

Quote from: THA TRUTH on July 11, 2018, 09:46:59 am
Rivercrest just played Jc at the right time
For 2 years straight huh. Lol Its funny to compare JC wins which are mostly 2A wins to Crest 3A-4A wins lol . Fellows get some sleep the 2017 3A state championship game was no fluke. Crest had a lot of young players on the field the qb was a jr, rb,s soph & jr.s. A freshman moved up from jr high and led the team in tackles. JC was a sr led team. Stop trying to act like Crest didn't belong on the field with Jc the game was over before half. When all the bickering is done if y'all ever stop Crest will still be your 2017 3A state champs a missed extra point away from the mercy rule. Good luck to Jc back in 2A go dominate again. Hopefully you want run up on a 2A school you will think is 4A. ;D

MT Legend

Quote from: ISU7 on July 13, 2018, 03:38:41 pm
For 2 years straight huh. Lol Its funny to compare JC wins which are mostly 2A wins to Crest 3A-4A wins lol . Fellows get some sleep the 2017 3A state championship game was no fluke. Crest had a lot of young players on the field the qb was a jr, rb,s soph & jr.s. A freshman moved up from jr high and led the team in tackles. JC was a sr led team. Stop trying to act like Crest didn't belong on the field with Jc the game was over before half. When all the bickering is done if y'all ever stopCrest will still be your 2017 3A state champs a missed extra point away from the mercy rule. Good luck to Jc back in 2A go dominate again. Hopefully you want run up on a 2A school you will think is 4A. ;D
😂🤣😂🤣🔥👊🏾🙌🏾💯

THA TRUTH

Quote from: ISU7 on July 13, 2018, 03:38:41 pm
For 2 years straight huh. Lol Its funny to compare JC wins which are mostly 2A wins to Crest 3A-4A wins lol . Fellows get some sleep the 2017 3A state championship game was no fluke. Crest had a lot of young players on the field the qb was a jr, rb,s soph & jr.s. A freshman moved up from jr high and led the team in tackles. JC was a sr led team. Stop trying to act like Crest didn't belong on the field with Jc the game was over before half. When all the bickering is done if y'all ever stopCrest will still be your 2017 3A state champs a missed extra point away from the mercy rule. Good luck to Jc back in 2A go dominate again. Hopefully you want run up on a 2A school you will think is 4A. ;D




Rivercrest was better than JC last year... the meaning of the post is they played a good Jc team but as far as other teams from Jc this Jc team didn't stack up especially on the defensive side of the ball

ISU7

Quote from: THA TRUTH on July 13, 2018, 03:55:40 pm



Rivercrest was better than JC last year... the meaning of the post is they played a good Jc team but as far as other teams from Jc this Jc team didn't stack up especially on the defensive side of the ball
Neither did this Crest team our leading tackler who played linebacker was off the team the 7th game of the season, the other starting lb and top rb was out in the first half of the Osceola game and didn't returned til the Jc game. The qb had been playing with a broken index finger he suffer in the 3rd rd at Mayflower, so what's your point. This team athletes were no more better than Osceola but Colts played with heart and refuse to make excuses if they lost. 8) GAME OVER!!!!!!!

MT Legend

Quote from: THA TRUTH on July 13, 2018, 03:55:40 pm



Rivercrest was better than JC last year... the meaning of the post is they played a good Jc team but as far as other teams from Jc this Jc team didn't stack up especially on the defensive side of the ball
what are you basing the past teams of jc off of? Cause as I look at it you now have 2 schools playing 8 man football out of that conference. That tells me that a couple years ago they probably had 14-18 kids playing football. So that's and easy 2 victory's a year. Hampton was very awful during that time. 3 easy wins a year. Strong after the one year has been very bad. 4 easy wins a year. Parker's chapel another easy win every year. That's 5 Bearden and rison has been your only challenge every year in conference. Haynesville a good non conference competition. Smackover decent. Man not to be offensive at all. But, the Colts would have 20 rings with that set up.🤷🏾‍♂️

THA TRUTH

And in the time I'm referring to Jc has wins over the 3a champ, finalist, and semifinalist.... if u have kept up with Jc u could tell the difference between this teams and the team last year

MT Legend

Quote from: THA TRUTH on July 13, 2018, 04:22:46 pm
And in the time I'm referring to Jc has wins over the 3a champ, finalist, and semifinalist.... if u have kept up with Jc u could tell the difference between this teams and the team last year
i don't have to keep up with y'all  to know they ain't played no one. When you beating most teams on your schedule by 40.lol. Tells me those teams was not good at all.

If y'all was that good y'all should have played Warren or Nashville. If y'all beat them teams by 45-50 points then yes y'all had done something.

THA TRUTH

So if a 2a team dominates their competition they should play a 4a team to prove themselves???? Bleu was right about u

MT Legend

Quote from: THA TRUTH on July 13, 2018, 06:12:03 pm
So if a 2a team dominates their competition they should play a 4a team to prove themselves???? Bleu was right about u
so playing the sisters of the poor proves what? What have you done? Running up and down the field against weak competition is not impressive. All I was saying is y'all talk about how great your past is. But yet there is no games played against the other blue bloods of your area. I didn't say you had to play them to prove anything. You assumed that. All I said was play some one anyone. Beat them like you beat the sister of the poor teams.Thats all.

THA TRUTH

U play what's in front of u..... Jc tried to schedule Charleston back in 14 but guess who backed out of that one



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