I'm so proud of these players for not giving up.
Here's ESPN on what has happened at ASU.
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/football/story/_/id/10331891/arkansas-state-keeps-recruiting-winning-new-coaches
Good Press for ASU!
http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2014/2/24/5413954/arkansas-state-football-2014-preview-schedule-roster
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/10764581/arkansas-state-red-wolves-auctioning-spring-game-coaching-gig
Saw this on the news tonight.
It's early but it seems that Two more Warren Lumberjacks have committed to the Red Wolves.
Jaylon Marshall WR
Darveon Brown WR
Both will be Seniors this year.
I think that makes 5 Lumberjacks since 2001 to go to ASU. Congrats guys.
......the last of Roberts recruits will be seniors this year. The man did a heck of a job with the program.
Quote from: Hero on June 22, 2014, 11:23:59 am
......the last of Roberts recruits will be seniors this year. The man did a heck of a job with the program.
Heck of a job recruiting. Average to below-average as a head coach.
Roberts did stabilize things. Remember the Hollis years.
Quote from: dc24 on June 22, 2014, 03:39:42 pm
Quote from: Hero on June 22, 2014, 11:23:59 am
......the last of Roberts recruits will be seniors this year. The man did a heck of a job with the program.
Heck of a job recruiting. Average to below-average as a head coach.
you'll never be able to convince me he is below average, or even average. Just saw an interview where Malzahn talked about how much more respect he has for him after seeing what he had to work with. It always appeared that stAte was an injury or two away each year from having a break out year. It just took the year he left for stAte to have an injury free season.
Quote from: Hero on June 23, 2014, 09:35:30 pm
Quote from: dc24 on June 22, 2014, 03:39:42 pm
Quote from: Hero on June 22, 2014, 11:23:59 am
......the last of Roberts recruits will be seniors this year. The man did a heck of a job with the program.
Heck of a job recruiting. Average to below-average as a head coach.
you'll never be able to convince me he is below average, or even average. Just saw an interview where Malzahn talked about how much more respect he has for him after seeing what he had to work with. It always appeared that stAte was an injury or two away each year from having a break out year. It just took the year he left for stAte to have an injury free season.
I'm not buying it. Roberts was great at evaluating talent and was just what Arkansas State needed when he was hired. He did stabilize the program and if anyone tells you we'd be where we are without the foundation he laid, they're crazy. That being said, we would have never gotten to where we are with him either. We just couldn't win road conference games under him. We couldn't quite win that big game at home either under him. We just couldn't get over that hump. Yes, there were a few unfortunate injuries, but I'm not remembering any that were just season-ruining for us. I don't think we were abnormally hit by the injury bug during his tenure. Also, you could tell by the 2010 season he was so burnt out. Look at how much he aged over the years. It was so stressful on him. I also was told by several players that he was kind of disconnected from the team the last couple of years and the players really started to question if he could get them over the hump. We probably waited one year too long to force him out. The team that went 4-8 in 2010 was basically the same team that Freeze took to 10-2 and lost in the GoDaddy Bowl. We needed that spark and Freeze had that motivation and fire in him that Roberts just didn't have, especially towards the end.
Like I said I'm thankful for what Roberts did and I'm sure he's a nice guy, good person, but he was at best an above average coach on his best day, especially gamedays. It's also hard to know how much of his success or failure should be attributed to his staff. The best coaches are usually able to surround themselves with great assistants. He may be a lot better coach than I'm giving him credit for, but he may be worse. I have respect for Coach Roberts but I'm also realistic. I know there are people that are still upset he was forced out and I guess they think that since he took us to a bowl game that he deserved a lifetime contract and that just simply isn't true.
But feel free to point out some big injuries we had. I'm curious now because I'm drawing a blank and would like to know because it could have been a factor.
Quote from: Uncle Ivan on June 22, 2014, 05:51:00 pm
Roberts did stabilize things. Remember the Hollis years.
Oh boy do I ? That guy was a football cancer to ASU. Wasn't current Steeler HC Mike Tomlin on his staff at ASU ?
Quote from: Hoghead on June 24, 2014, 01:35:18 am
Quote from: Uncle Ivan on June 22, 2014, 05:51:00 pm
Roberts did stabilize things. Remember the Hollis years.
Oh boy do I ? That guy was a football cancer to ASU. Wasn't current Steeler HC Mike Tomlin on his staff at ASU ?
Yes he was.
Hollis was able to recruit some talent to Jonesboro as well such as Cleo Lemon, Robert Kilow, and Garry Johnson, but he couldn't win at all. I think the 2000 game against North Carolina State was the big downfall. We were up late in the game and there was a bad call either late or in the first overtime that cost us the game. Had we won that game it could have made all the difference that year, but we didn't.
Joe Hollis was to the redwolves what John L Smith was to the razorbacks. A complete program killer.
Quote from: Redwolf on July 23, 2014, 10:06:10 pm
Joe Hollis was to the redwolves what John L Smith was to the razorbacks. A complete program killer.
John L. Smith owes the UA some money !!!!!
http://www.arkansasbusiness.com/article/100479/johnny-allison-donates-5m-to-arkansas-state-athletics-department
Thanks to the Allison Family!!!
Coach Beliema seen in Marked Tree discussing putting ASU on the Hogs Schedule ASAP !
Naw. He was however seen in Trumann eating at Jerry's Steakhouse.
You know playing the Red Wolves won't help the hogs program at all....lol!
Good for ASU!
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Anybody up for a road trip ??? ;D
Quote from: bleudog on September 06, 2014, 04:28:07 pm
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Anybody up for a road trip ??? ;D
Classic !!!! Too Funny !
Quote from: Hoghead on September 06, 2014, 04:52:01 pm
Quote from: bleudog on September 06, 2014, 04:28:07 pm
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Anybody up for a road trip ??? ;D
Classic !!!! Too Funny !
Love it!!! ;D
Quote from: Hoghead on September 01, 2014, 12:11:11 am
Coach Beliema seen in Marked Tree discussing putting ASU on the Hogs Schedule ASAP !
Why not? It'd look like today's game.
Now who did the Hogs play??? Never heard of them.
Quote from: True Believer on September 07, 2014, 02:56:54 pm
Now who did the Hogs play??? Never heard of them.
Oh, just a cupcake that ASU has a losing record against.
Quote from: Uncle Ivan on September 07, 2014, 10:17:12 pm
Quote from: True Believer on September 07, 2014, 02:56:54 pm
Now who did the Hogs play??? Never heard of them.
Oh, just a cupcake that ASU has a losing record against.
Actually, we don't. You must've been thinking of UofA's record against William and Mary. ;D
Quote from: wildcat_x-mgr on September 07, 2014, 11:06:04 pm
Actually, we don't.
Actually, they do.
Got Joe Hollis fired...on a Thanksgiving, nonetheless. There might've been a couple hundred in attendance.
Quote from: Uncle Ivan on September 08, 2014, 06:28:42 pm
Quote from: wildcat_x-mgr on September 07, 2014, 11:06:04 pm
Actually, we don't.
Actually, they do.
Got Joe Hollis fired...on a Thanksgiving, nonetheless. There might've been a couple hundred in attendance.
I was surprised they've only faced each other once.
http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/sunbelt/arkansas_state/opponents_records.php?teamid=2254
We played a SEC team.
Yep. Cupcake.
Quote from: bleudog on September 08, 2014, 06:48:32 pm
Quote from: Uncle Ivan on September 08, 2014, 06:28:42 pm
Quote from: wildcat_x-mgr on September 07, 2014, 11:06:04 pm
Actually, we don't.
Actually, they do.
Got Joe Hollis fired...on a Thanksgiving, nonetheless. There might've been a couple hundred in attendance.
I was surprised they've only faced each other once.
http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/sunbelt/arkansas_state/opponents_records.php?teamid=2254
Which is precisely where I went to look it up before I mentioned it.
My mistake, I was looking at McNeese State instead of Nicholls State.
Hope my Hurricanes crush asu.
LOL....you people are too funny.
Quote from: True Believer on September 12, 2014, 10:35:51 pm
LOL....you people are too funny.
U people 41
The other school 14
All about the U! GO CANES!!!
U people 41
The other team 20
Final.
Tailgating next weekend! Hope the weather is as nice as this weekend.
Wearing our CROSS t-shirts!!
Howl Yes!!!
Quote from: True Believer on September 13, 2014, 08:41:03 pm
Tailgating next weekend! Hope the weather is as nice as this weekend.
Wearing our CROSS t-shirts!!
Howl Yes!!!
Here's an article about the shirts:
http://thefox1049.com/news/036630-asu-football-decal-controversy/
Athletic Director Terry Mohajir said Wednesday afternoon an attorney contacted the school concerned about a religious symbol on a public university's equipment.
Oh?
Out the guy. Let's see who it is.
Quote from: bleudog on September 13, 2014, 11:16:29 pm
Quote from: True Believer on September 13, 2014, 08:41:03 pm
Tailgating next weekend! Hope the weather is as nice as this weekend.
Wearing our CROSS t-shirts!!
Howl Yes!!!
http://thefox1049.com/news/036630-asu-football-decal-controversy/
More liberal bullcrap in society.
Aw. No problem! The Design Shop is selling Cross T-shirts for $5. The Jonesboro Radio group is giving away 1000 of them this coming weekend. Howl Nation has them for $10.
All the money made is going to scholarships in Barry Don's and Markel's name.
You can't keep this University or this town down. Even if you are a liberal.
I have 3 ordered.
(http://images.christianpost.com/full/76152/arkansas-state-university.jpg)
This is the cross that our players put on their helmets to honor their brethen. ASU football is a very tight knit group.
Someone complained and well you know how that goes. No one wanted them taken off.
But now instead of just a cross on the helmet. We have our Red Wolf community coming together to stand up for our rights. And someone will be able to afford an education so all good works toward the Glory of God.
:)
Not an asu fan but a fan of Christians who take stand. Make some noise up there for the rest of us Christians. Make headlines!
Quote from: True Believer on September 14, 2014, 07:42:39 pm
(http://images.christianpost.com/full/76152/arkansas-state-university.jpg)
This is the cross that our players put on their helmets to honor their brethen. ASU football is a very tight knit group.
Someone complained and well you know how that goes. No one wanted them taken off.
But now instead of just a cross on the helmet. We have our Red Wolf community coming together to stand up for our rights. And someone will be able to afford an education so all good works toward the Glory of God.
:)
To this...I will say HOWL YES!
They had to cut the vertical line on the decal but it is still on the helmet.
Whoever this player is........I applaud him. I feel like he is doing the right thing for our rights. A lot of us don't have the guts to follow through. We just feel like giving up. I do sometimes.
Prayers for this Red Wolf. And way to go!!
https://libertyinstitute.org/arkansasstatefootball
Chalk up a win for the good guys!!
http://news.yahoo.com/arkansas-state-university-reverses-decision-asu-allows-original-021900982.html
Today I went to pick up my t shirts. I am not lying. 1000 people lined up to get t shirts today to support the team and to support the right to wear a cross.
And that was just today!
And yes. Even though they may still be sued. Any player who voluntarily places the cross on his helmet will be allowed to wear it.
Go Red Wolves!
Yeah they can put it on there as long as they BUY it. It can't be given to them that is considered an improper benefit because they receive something with monetary value. All helmets have to match so they would all have to buy one to put on there. I think it's pretty much a done deal that they are not going back on the helmets. You don't want that potential controversy to mess with the team no matter what the cause could be.
Quote from: birdman16 on September 20, 2014, 07:24:18 am
Yeah they can put it on there as long as they BUY it. It can't be given to them that is considered an improper benefit because they receive something with monetary value. All helmets have to match so they would all have to buy one to put on there. I think it's pretty much a done deal that they are not going back on the helmets. You don't want that potential controversy to mess with the team no matter what the cause could be.
LOL....whatever. It's a done deal that they are on the helmets.
Proud of my University and the Red Wolves!
Great win in OT, Congrats to the red Wolves!
Keep up the good work
Go Red Wolves. A sea of red in the stands!
Howl yes!
Quote from: True Believer on September 20, 2014, 06:02:33 pm
Quote from: birdman16 on September 20, 2014, 07:24:18 am
Yeah they can put it on there as long as they BUY it. It can't be given to them that is considered an improper benefit because they receive something with monetary value. All helmets have to match so they would all have to buy one to put on there. I think it's pretty much a done deal that they are not going back on the helmets. You don't want that potential controversy to mess with the team no matter what the cause could be.
LOL....whatever. It's a done deal that they are on the helmets.
Proud of my University and the Red Wolves!
So if you watched the game and looked closely you would notice that the crosses are not on the helmets....red or black. There is a horizontal bar with the initials but no cross. If you want to wait two weeks till the next game to give them time to put it back on you can check back when they play Monroe.
The point is and was the University said they could. And the ASU stands were a sea of red with the crosses. We made our point. I love the red helmets by the way.
You sound like a hater. Conway would never support their team like the Jonesboro community did.
Move along. No time for you.
What makes you so sure that I'm a Central Arkansas fan or still one for that matter? Yes it is my alma mater and I hope they do good but there are other priorities now and I don't really care what they do in the grand scheme. As far as me being a hater, you really don't have a clue. I'm now at Arkansas State because I'm starting graduate school in January. My source about the helmets is a pretty good one, so you may not know as much as you think you do.
I can see the community of Jonesboro is going to be so welcoming if you are any indication of it.
Quote from: birdman16 on September 22, 2014, 12:05:08 am
What makes you so sure that I'm a Central Arkansas fan or still one for that matter? Yes it is my alma mater and I hope they do good but there are other priorities now and I don't really care what they do in the grand scheme. As far as me being a hater, you really don't have a clue. I'm now at Arkansas State because I'm starting graduate school in January. My source about the helmets is a pretty good one, so you may not know as much as you think you do.
I can see the community of Jonesboro is going to be so welcoming if you are any indication of it.
Careful bird, others may know a little more! Son's - players, coaches wives etc... being a student may not carry as much water so to speak!
Quote from: Jacketman65 on September 22, 2014, 11:35:18 pm
Quote from: birdman16 on September 22, 2014, 12:05:08 am
What makes you so sure that I'm a Central Arkansas fan or still one for that matter? Yes it is my alma mater and I hope they do good but there are other priorities now and I don't really care what they do in the grand scheme. As far as me being a hater, you really don't have a clue. I'm now at Arkansas State because I'm starting graduate school in January. My source about the helmets is a pretty good one, so you may not know as much as you think you do.
I can see the community of Jonesboro is going to be so welcoming if you are any indication of it.
Careful bird, others may know a little more! Son's - players, coaches wives etc... being a student may not carry as much water so to speak!
I know more than the ones that post on here, I can promise you that. An insider to the program may know more? Is that what you are saying...DUH what do you think my source is.
Homecoming Week!! Game is at 6 pm again. Weather is going to be perfect.
Here's to the Howlin' Red Wolves!!!
Wolves over ULM 28 - 14
Beautiful day for football! Didn't go but drove by and lots of tailgating going on!
A-State with a big 52-10 win over Georgia State today. GSU lost at Louisiana-Lafayette last week 34-31 after leading most of the game so I was expecting it to be closer. It's so good to have Michael Gordon back.
ASU @ U La La is on ESPN2. Red Wolves down 20-9 early in the second.
I see they broke out the crying dog logo on the helmets for ASU tonight.
Couldn't stop the run. Don't know what happened there. Not even Miami with their two-headed running back monster did that against us. ULL was huge though, but we overcame a bad call on a fumble and some coaching decisions to keep it close. Proud of the effort. It'll show alot how we bounce back and play Idaho in two Saturdays.
OMG! Where are the ASU folks? I have never been so discusted in a coaches performance than I was tonight. Where did Blake Anderson come from? Had to be some peewee team! Have never seen a coach -HS,JHS,Peewee, much less college go for it on 4th down from YOUR OWN 6 YARD LINE and then run a throw back pass! :o :o :o I will say it STUPID! Then we score, down by 9 and GO FOR 2! What are you thinking? At this point I feel sorry for the players because it obvious that Anderson is over his head! Hopefully ASU has a FIRE YOU clause in his contract to go with the buy out as well as with the AD that hired this clown! Worst part is that he will get away with it at ASU, but nowhere else in the country. The man would have been fired tonight! Keep this clown and when these seniors are gone, back to medoricatry!
Quote from: Jacketman65 on October 21, 2014, 11:50:31 pm
OMG! Where are the ASU folks? I have never been so discusted in a coaches performance than I was tonight. Where did Blake Anderson come from? Had to be some peewee team! Have never seen a coach -HS,JHS,Peewee, much less college go for it on 4th down from YOUR OWN 6 YARD LINE and then run a throw back pass! :o :o :o I will say it STUPID! Then we score, down by 9 and GO FOR 2! What are you thinking? At this point I feel sorry for the players because it obvious that Anderson is over his head! Hopefully ASU has a FIRE YOU clause in his contract to go with the buy out as well as with the AD that hired this clown! Worst part is that he will get away with it at ASU, but nowhere else in the country. The man would have been fired tonight! Keep this clown and when these seniors are gone, back to medoricatry!
I think he's a great coach. He's a little too trick-play happy, but I like that. It's fun as heck to watch. The Rams did the same thing to Seahawks the other day basically and it worked so Jeff Fisher looked like a genius. They don't get it, they likely lose the game. I'm more upset about the two-point play down nine, but it is what it is. He will learn, he's a first-year head coach and we're 4-3, definitely no reason to fire him now. Besides, our defense is what cost us tonight.
Quote from: dc24 on October 22, 2014, 12:01:21 am
Quote from: Jacketman65 on October 21, 2014, 11:50:31 pm
OMG! Where are the ASU folks? I have never been so discusted in a coaches performance than I was tonight. Where did Blake Anderson come from? Had to be some peewee team! Have never seen a coach -HS,JHS,Peewee, much less college go for it on 4th down from YOUR OWN 6 YARD LINE and then run a throw back pass! :o :o :o I will say it STUPID! Then we score, down by 9 and GO FOR 2! What are you thinking? At this point I feel sorry for the players because it obvious that Anderson is over his head! Hopefully ASU has a FIRE YOU clause in his contract to go with the buy out as well as with the AD that hired this clown! Worst part is that he will get away with it at ASU, but nowhere else in the country. The man would have been fired tonight! Keep this clown and when these seniors are gone, back to medoricatry!
I think he's a great coach. He's a little too trick-play happy, but I like that. It's fun as heck to watch. The Rams did the same thing to Seahawks the other day basically and it worked so Jeff Fisher looked like a genius. They don't get it, they likely lose the game. I'm more upset about the two-point play down nine, but it is what it is. He will learn, he's a first-year head coach and we're 4-3, definitely no reason to fire him now. Besides, our defense is what cost us tonight.
Yes, I agree to a point, but you/we don't hire a coach to learn on the fly - this is D-1 and we want to compete with the likes of Boise much less the U of A? Unexcepible! ULL coach knows what is going on, none of our so called tricks worked, had his team well prepared, unlike ours!
The 4th down throwback to the punter was a little nuts, but I'm not sure why the announcer (and you guys) are so upset about going for 2 down 9? If he gets it, great, but if he doesn't get it, he knows that he needs the ball two more times. Let's say he kicks the extra point, and is now down 8...he still needs a TD and a 2-point conversion. The next time he gets the ball, does he hurry up and try to score, or score with a few seconds remaining leave the game resting on the success or failure of a 2-point conversion?
I personally think Anderson is doing a great job. His assistant coaches love him, the players love him, and I think MOST of the (obviously not all) of the fans love him. If you are going to blame the loss on him, that's fine, but it should be more on the defensive front preparation than an awful fake punt. Even if they get that punt out of there, there is little indication the Red Wolves would have kept ULL out of the endzone with such great field position.
Quote from: Coach DePriest, Harrison on October 22, 2014, 12:28:07 am
The 4th down throwback to the punter was a little nuts, but I'm not sure why the announcer (and you guys) are so upset about going for 2 down 9? If he gets it, great, but if he doesn't get it, he knows that he needs the ball two more times. Let's say he kicks the extra point, and is now down 8...he still needs a TD and a 2-point conversion. The next time he gets the ball, does he hurry up and try to score, or score with a few seconds remaining leave the game resting on the success or failure of a 2-point conversion?
I personally think Anderson is doing a great job. His assistant coaches love him, the players love him, and I think MOST of the (obviously not all) of the fans love him. If you are going to blame the loss on him, that's fine, but it should be more on the defensive front preparation than an awful fake punt. Even if they get that punt out of there, there is little indication the Red Wolves would have kept ULL out of the endzone with such great field position.
I agree to a point. At least put yourself in the position for that final play should it come down to that. What do you think that going for the 2 did to the players mentally? Rather than being down by 1 score plus the 2 pt. conversion, they are sown 2 scores! Bad, Bad, Bad on the coaches. If it is OK, then why didn't we go for it the nest time at our own 20? Trick plays are fine, but as was proven tonight, will not always win you games with a well coached team!
I'm just saying that if you go for it now then you know what is in front of you. I think he felt like they just drove 93 yards (sort of 96 since they lost 3 yards on the first carry) and had the momentum. I'm not saying that is what I would have done, I just don't think it is dumb as the announcer made it sound. To me, it's more about whether you feel like you have them on the ropes and feel like you can get it then. Don't forget in the back of his mind he may still be thinking about the missed extra point at the first of the game.
Quote from: Coach DePriest, Harrison on October 22, 2014, 12:50:56 am
I'm just saying that if you go for it now then you know what is in front of you. I think he felt like they just drove 93 yards (sort of 96 since they lost 3 yards on the first carry) and had the momentum. I'm not saying that is what I would have done, I just don't think it is dumb as the announcer made it sound. To me, it's more about whether you feel like you have them on the ropes and feel like you can get it then. Don't forget in the back of his mind he may still be thinking about the missed extra point at the first of the game.
IMOP, we never had them on the ropes, I will say again worst coaching decision I have ever seen, even you would not have done that. Put his players in a bad situation. After all of that we have 2 players ejected, which means they miss the next game - right? Oh well, hopefully the wolves will bounce back!
Quote from: Jacketman65 on October 22, 2014, 12:21:09 am
Quote from: dc24 on October 22, 2014, 12:01:21 am
Quote from: Jacketman65 on October 21, 2014, 11:50:31 pm
OMG! Where are the ASU folks? I have never been so discusted in a coaches performance than I was tonight. Where did Blake Anderson come from? Had to be some peewee team! Have never seen a coach -HS,JHS,Peewee, much less college go for it on 4th down from YOUR OWN 6 YARD LINE and then run a throw back pass! :o :o :o I will say it STUPID! Then we score, down by 9 and GO FOR 2! What are you thinking? At this point I feel sorry for the players because it obvious that Anderson is over his head! Hopefully ASU has a FIRE YOU clause in his contract to go with the buy out as well as with the AD that hired this clown! Worst part is that he will get away with it at ASU, but nowhere else in the country. The man would have been fired tonight! Keep this clown and when these seniors are gone, back to medoricatry!
I think he's a great coach. He's a little too trick-play happy, but I like that. It's fun as heck to watch. The Rams did the same thing to Seahawks the other day basically and it worked so Jeff Fisher looked like a genius. They don't get it, they likely lose the game. I'm more upset about the two-point play down nine, but it is what it is. He will learn, he's a first-year head coach and we're 4-3, definitely no reason to fire him now. Besides, our defense is what cost us tonight.
Yes, I agree to a point, but you/we don't hire a coach to learn on the fly - this is D-1 and we want to compete with the likes of Boise much less the U of A? Unexcepible! ULL coach knows what is going on, none of our so called tricks worked, had his team well prepared, unlike ours!
Everybody has to start somewhere. Coaches are constantly learning on the fly, that's part of coaching. You're always learning. And some of the plays did work. The first fake punt worked, the double pass was wide open, just a bad pass, so I wouldn't say that and they've worked some in the other games. Flea flicker worked too, but missed the pass, but got a pass interference call. You're mad about the game and I get that, but step back from the ledge.
Quote from: Coach DePriest, Harrison on October 22, 2014, 12:28:07 am
The 4th down throwback to the punter was a little nuts, but I'm not sure why the announcer (and you guys) are so upset about going for 2 down 9? If he gets it, great, but if he doesn't get it, he knows that he needs the ball two more times. Let's say he kicks the extra point, and is now down 8...he still needs a TD and a 2-point conversion. The next time he gets the ball, does he hurry up and try to score, or score with a few seconds remaining leave the game resting on the success or failure of a 2-point conversion?
I personally think Anderson is doing a great job. His assistant coaches love him, the players love him, and I think MOST of the (obviously not all) of the fans love him. If you are going to blame the loss on him, that's fine, but it should be more on the defensive front preparation than an awful fake punt. Even if they get that punt out of there, there is little indication the Red Wolves would have kept ULL out of the endzone with such great field position.
I get your point coach and I doubt there is statistical evidence anywhere, but I feel like our chances of tying the game and eventually winning were much better by kicking the extra point with 5:37 left than going for the two early and being down nine since we didn't get it. You're not even guaranteed of getting the ball one more time with that time left, much less two times.
Now I agree, the coaches and players do love him and I believe most fans do, although he probably lost a few tonight. I don't agree with the punt, but I definitely don't agree with throwing it to the punter to get 11 or 12 yards. I'd must rather have that throw going to someone else, although they surely were banking on the fact that no one would go with the punter. I hated the timing of it more than anything though. Our defense got rocked for the most part tonight, but prior to the half and in the third quarter the defense settled down and were playing well. I'm not sure we would have stopped them like you said, but I like our chances much better with them going 40 to 50 yards than five. Had it been at another point in the game when we couldn't stop them, I don't mind it as much.
All that being said, I still think Anderson is the right man for the job and there is still a lot of season left. We're 4-3 and I'd be really excited if we got to 8-4. I thought Fredi grew tonight as well. He made one bad throw that should have been picked, but otherwise he looked great and made some good throws on the run. I felt like he grew in that part of his game, which hadn't looked as strong to me before tonight.
No reason they shouldn't be able to go 9-3. It just sucks that Georgia Southern doesn't play either of these teams and can win the conference.
One of the most boneheaded calls I've ever seen a coach do: http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:11742126
Quote from: birdman16 on October 22, 2014, 05:46:05 am
No reason they shouldn't be able to go 9-3. It just sucks that Georgia Southern doesn't play either of these teams and can win the conference.
I think it is a shame that Georgia Southern can't win it. They might be the best team in the conference this year, but it really sucks that they can win the conference without playing A-State or ULL, but they can't go to a bowl game.
I wish A-State all the best! Even though I'm a diehard Hog fan, I feel no animosity towards teams from the rest of the state. In fact, I usually root for y'all!
From what I've read they are eligible for the conference title but they can go to a bowl only if they run out of 6-6 teams to select.
Quote from: birdman16 on October 22, 2014, 12:11:50 pmFrom what I've read they are eligible for the conference title but they can go to a bowl only if they run out of 6-6 teams to select.
Georgia Southern would qualify under the 5th item of bowl eligibility, in normal situations. This makes them an EXTREME long shot to go Bowling this year.
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#1: Teams finishing 6-6 with one win against a team from the lower Football Championship Subdivision (FCS), regardless of whether that FCS school meets NCAA scholarship requirements. Until now, an FCS win counted only if that opponent met the scholarship requirements—specifically, that school had to award at least 90% of the FCS maximum of 63 scholarship equivalents over a two-year period.
#2: 6-6 teams with two wins over FCS schools.
#3: Teams that finish 6-7 with loss number seven in their conference championship game (that has been eliminated by the conference championship waiver rule).
#4: 6-7 teams that normally play a 13-team schedule, such as Hawaii's home opponents. Although Hawaii normally plays a 13-game schedule, it only played 12 games this season.
#5: FCS teams who are in the final year of the two-year FBS transition process, if they have at least a 6-6 record.
#6: Finally, 5-7 teams that have a top-5 Academic Progress Rate (APR) score. This was later adjusted to allow other 5-7 teams to be selected thereafter—in order of their APR.
All that being said, I believe their agreement with the Sun Belt Conference explicitly states that they and App State are NOT eligible for a bowl at all this year. They will be next year, though.
Bowl eligible!
Yes!! :)
Congrats to ASU !!!
(http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx68/bleudog71730/astate_zps4e46b7aa.png) (http://s742.photobucket.com/user/bleudog71730/media/astate_zps4e46b7aa.png.html)
Pretty helmets! Love them!
But we lost Sat. :(
I am guessing the ASU will get to keep their coach this year.
Appy State?
lulz
Quote from: Uncle Ivan on November 17, 2014, 08:02:58 am
Appy State?
lulz
Haha. And their head coach will be leaving for FL soon.
Quote from: AirWarren on November 17, 2014, 08:11:23 am
Quote from: Uncle Ivan on November 17, 2014, 08:02:58 am
Appy State?
lulz
Haha. And their head coach will be leaving for FL soon.
Anderson?
Nah. Florida's had a gutful of assistants who have to learn on he job.
posted on the wrong thread....sorry!
Anderson is staying through next season, guaranteed. He's not going anywhere until AFTER his daughter graduates. :)
Quote from: Uncle Ivan on November 17, 2014, 08:02:58 am
Appy State?
lulz
Yep And didn't I hear something about the pigs finally winning a SEC game. Congrats.
Quote from: Douglas on November 17, 2014, 02:55:39 pm
Anderson is staying through next season, guaranteed. He's not going anywhere until AFTER his daughter graduates. :)
No disrespect, but we have heard this before!
Quote from: Jacketman65No disrespect, but we have heard this before!
I'll put my reputation on the line for this one. Anderson will finally bring stability to the Coaching Carousel at Arkansas State. :)
Quote from: True Believer on November 17, 2014, 07:04:48 pm
Quote from: Uncle Ivan on November 17, 2014, 08:02:58 am
Appy State?
lulz
Yep And didn't I hear something about the pigs finally winning a SEC game. Congrats.
Thanks. Tough competition in the SEC.
Quote from: True Believer on November 17, 2014, 07:04:48 pm
Quote from: Uncle Ivan on November 17, 2014, 08:02:58 am
Appy State?
lulz
Yep And didn't I hear something about the pigs finally winning a SEC game. Congrats.
Yup. We don't get cutter morning star every week.
So you ride the shirt tails of the SEC to justify losing?
You're saying ASU could've competed better if the schedules were swapped?
Didn't say that at all. I'm just trying to figure out how you justify losing games by saying you play in the SEC. So by playing in the SEC you say losing is okay?
Looks like the real trolls are showing up now that the Hogs finally won an SEC game. It took about 3 days longer than I thought before the cocky for what Hog fan trolls started bashing ASU.
Quote from: fastdrop on November 20, 2014, 12:26:20 pm
Looks like the real trolls are showing up now that the Hogs finally won an SEC game. It took about 3 days longer than I thought before the cocky for what Hog fan trolls started bashing ASU.
I'll be here if Arkansas goes 0-12.
Quote from: fastdrop on November 20, 2014, 12:26:20 pm
Looks like the real trolls are showing up now that the Hogs finally won an SEC game. It took about 3 days longer than I thought before the cocky for what Hog fan trolls started bashing ASU.
Not trolling....well maybe a lil. I believe it was True Believer that first mentioned Arkansas winning an SEC game. Lots of trolling by the College of Jonesboro fans on the SEC board all year. It goes on everywhere I guess.
Quote from: Uncle Ivan on November 20, 2014, 04:36:02 pm
Quote from: fastdrop on November 20, 2014, 12:26:20 pm
Looks like the real trolls are showing up now that the Hogs finally won an SEC game. It took about 3 days longer than I thought before the cocky for what Hog fan trolls started bashing ASU.
I'll be here if Arkansas goes 0-12.
Yup.
Meanwhile, ASU is struggling with Texas state commerce community college.
Quote from: birdman16 on November 20, 2014, 11:31:01 am
So you ride the shirt tails of the SEC to justify losing?
Pretty sure playing in the SEC isn't riding a coat tail. That's true competing in the sec.
Texas state community college commerce is a legit team, right?
What has Arkansas football brought to the SEC. A solid 6-6 or 7-5 record. A step above Vandy and Kentucky? That's the place everybody in the nation would die to be in.
Arkansas State lost a conference game tonight something the piggies should be used to. Conference play is always tough.
I'd say on average we've been middle of the road in the conference. I'd say we've finished higher than Vandy, Kentucky both Mississippi schools, at times South Carolina. Been to the title game a few times, was ranked number 3 in the country once and even went to a BCS bowl game. Not a perennial SEC powerhouse but , with the exception of the post Bobby P. era, we've held our own.
Quote from: Moonshiner on November 21, 2014, 08:36:16 am
I'd say on average we've been middle of the road in the conference. I'd say we've finished higher than Vandy, Kentucky both Mississippi schools, at times South Carolina. Been to the title game a few times, was ranked number 3 in the country once and even went to a BCS bowl game. Not a perennial SEC powerhouse but , with the exception of the post Bobby P. era, we've held our own.
Yup.
All the while ASU is in "tough conference play" with texas state commerce community college last night and loses.
Quote from: Moonshiner on November 21, 2014, 08:36:16 am
I'd say on average we've been middle of the road in the conference. I'd say we've finished higher than Vandy, Kentucky both Mississippi schools, at times South Carolina. Been to the title game a few times, was ranked number 3 in the country once and even went to a BCS bowl game. Not a perennial SEC powerhouse but , with the exception of the post Bobby P. era, we've held our own.
Appearances School Wins Losses PCT.
10 Florida 7 3 .700
8 Alabama 4 4 .500
5 LSU 4 1 .800
5 Auburn 3 2 .600
5 Georgia 2 3 .400
5 Tennessee 2 3 .400
3 Arkansas 0 3 .000 1 Miss St 0 1 .000
1 Missouri 0 1 .000 (Missouri's 2nd year in the SEC)
1 S Carolina 0 1 .000
Kentucky, Ole Miss, Texas A&M (joined in 2012?), and Vanderbilt have yet to make an appearance in an SEC Championship Game
Arkansas' three appearances:
1995 #2 Florida 34 #23 Arkansas 3
2002 #4 Georgia 30 #22 Arkansas 3
2006 #4 Florida 38 #8 Arkansas 28
Runner up's bowl performance:
1995 #24 Arkansas L 10–20 North Carolina ACC 1995 Carquest Bowl
2002 #25 Arkansas L 14–29 Minnesota Big Ten 2002 Music City Bowl
2006 #12 Arkansas L 14–17 #6 Wisconsin Big Ten 2007 Capital One Bowl
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SEC_Championship_Game
A lot of Top 5, Top 10, even Top 20 teams on that list. A lot of them are on our schedule week after week. We may not be that great right now, but we will come back. We are competing at least. True we could have a great conference record if we played Austin Peay and the Appalachian Snowmen.
Quote from: Moonshiner on November 21, 2014, 09:53:22 am
A lot of Top 5, Top 10, even Top 20 teams on that list. A lot of them are on our schedule week after week. We may not be that great right now, but we will come back. We are competing at least. True we could have a great conference record if we played Austin Peay and the Appalachian Snowmen.
Being in the same division as Alabama, Auburn and LSU doesn't make getting to the SEC Championship easy most years. It does make the money good though.
Quote from: bleudog on November 21, 2014, 10:03:47 am
Quote from: Moonshiner on November 21, 2014, 09:53:22 am
A lot of Top 5, Top 10, even Top 20 teams on that list. A lot of them are on our schedule week after week. We may not be that great right now, but we will come back. We are competing at least. True we could have a great conference record if we played Austin Peay and the Appalachian Snowmen.
Being in the same division as Alabama, Auburn and LSU doesn't make getting to the SEC Championship easy most years. It does make the money good though.
If the hogs play in the sun belt, we win 10 every year. Probably more.
Conference games are usually tough to win no matter what. Texas State is 6-5 and a solid team. I knew it would be a tough game with all the guys we've got hurt.
Quote from: AirWarren on November 21, 2014, 12:18:20 pm
If the hogs play in the sun belt, we win 10 every year. Probably more.
I would think so.
With current P5 revenue, that'd only be about $10 million per football win. :o
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/schools/finances/
But if the Hogs were to play in the Sunbelt, that P5 money goes away. ;)
They may need to look into that so they can win some conference games...majority of the wins come from G5 lately.
Quote from: birdman16 on November 21, 2014, 05:08:33 pm
They may need to look into that so they can win some conference games...majority of the wins come from G5 lately.
Can't say that one game against Nicholls State constitutes a majority.
So UAB and NIU don't fall under that category. Guess I missed where they joined the SEC and Big 10.
Nicholls, UAB, Texas state commerce. All the same.
Has stAte beaten anyone from a Power 5 conference? Arkansas has beaten 2
Quote from: birdman16 on November 21, 2014, 05:35:21 pm
So UAB and NIU don't fall under that category.
Two programs that would bulldoze ASU.
ASU sucks, got it. I wouldn't want y'all to develop carpal tunnel from typing it over and over again.
I wanted to discuss the sad thing known as Arkansas football but that topic keeps being diverted to ASU. Obviously y'all want to talk about the piggies, this thread has been derailed enough as it is.
Relax man.
He's angry
He needs to befriend the leaders of the local ff NAACP chapter.
My roommate just came in to check and make sure everything was okay because I was laughing so hard at that post
It can be difficult to read in context on a forum. There was no anger at all in that just sarcasm. I know this is just a place to have fun. Nothing said on here bothers me to where I can't sleep at night.
It makes them feel better to type that A-State sucks so they don't have to think about being the SEC West's whipping boy year in and year out.
I don't think ASU sucks. I've always supported ASU and still pull for them every time they play. Just get tired of the fans thinking they could compete better in the SEC or "stomp" Arkansas. It's not gonna happen.
Quote from: dc24 on November 22, 2014, 02:07:44 am
It makes them feel better to type that A-State sucks so they don't have to think about being the SEC West's whipping boy year in and year out.
Whipping boy? You guys just got beat by Texas state. We just beat LSU. And play another top 10 today.
Exactly what Moonshiner said
Whipping boy sounds about right they did play 17 other conference games before the LSU win.
So angry
Little man syndrome
The BUT BUT BUT syndrome.
Quote from: AirWarren on November 22, 2014, 09:06:26 am
Quote from: dc24 on November 22, 2014, 02:07:44 am
It makes them feel better to type that A-State sucks so they don't have to think about being the SEC West's whipping boy year in and year out.
Whipping boy? You guys just got beat by Texas state. We just beat LSU. And play another top 10 today.
Congrats, 1-17 or so now? You guys are beating Ole Miss today too. Maybe they aren't as good as everyone thought. Their starting quarterback is someone who was third string at A-State though so that's good.
Just need to remind you that A-State has a guy from Warren on the team now and two more joining next year.
Quote from: Moonshiner on November 22, 2014, 08:21:46 am
I don't think ASU sucks. I've always supported ASU and still pull for them every time they play. Just get tired of the fans thinking they could compete better in the SEC or "stomp" Arkansas. It's not gonna happen.
Tell me who has said that? You guys take any positive thing about A-State as a shot at Arkansas. I haven't seen anyone on here claiming we could beat Arkansas or would be better in the SEC than them. And if someone did, well every fan base has their crazies. The last few years I think we could have given you guys a game, maybe even beat you once, but no one will ever know. I've never used the word stomped though, so I don't know where you're getting that from.
Wonder what Myron Anderson's doing these days.
Quote from: dc24 on November 22, 2014, 04:28:09 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on November 22, 2014, 09:06:26 am
Quote from: dc24 on November 22, 2014, 02:07:44 am
It makes them feel better to type that A-State sucks so they don't have to think about being the SEC West's whipping boy year in and year out.
Whipping boy? You guys just got beat by Texas state. We just beat LSU. And play another top 10 today.
Congrats, 1-17 or so now? You guys are beating Ole Miss today too. Maybe they aren't as good as everyone thought. Their starting quarterback is someone who was third string at A-State though so that's good.
Just need to remind you that A-State has a guy from Warren on the team now and two more joining next year.
Come on DC. Lighten up. No one really cares about what asu does we just like given a hard time. And for the warren guys, ill always support them at asu.
Now the sec whipping boys is foolish. Now with JLS, yeah. But Arkansas has always been competitive. It's just not easy to win it all when you have bama and LSU in your division.
Quote from: AirWarren on November 22, 2014, 05:58:30 pm
Quote from: dc24 on November 22, 2014, 04:28:09 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on November 22, 2014, 09:06:26 am
Quote from: dc24 on November 22, 2014, 02:07:44 am
It makes them feel better to type that A-State sucks so they don't have to think about being the SEC West's whipping boy year in and year out.
Whipping boy? You guys just got beat by Texas state. We just beat LSU. And play another top 10 today.
Congrats, 1-17 or so now? You guys are beating Ole Miss today too. Maybe they aren't as good as everyone thought. Their starting quarterback is someone who was third string at A-State though so that's good.
Just need to remind you that A-State has a guy from Warren on the team now and two more joining next year.
Come on DC. Lighten up. No one really cares about what asu does we just like given a hard time. And for the warren guys, ill always support them at asu.
Now the sec whipping boys is foolish. Now with JLS, yeah. But Arkansas has always been competitive. It's just not easy to win it all when you have bama and LSU in your division.
For someone, and this is directed at a lot of people on here, that doesn't care you sure do take every chance to get a shot in that you can.
Never said it was easy or should be. It's the toughest conference in football and only got tougher with Texas A&M, Auburn, Ole Miss, and Mississippi State being good. Arkansas is heading in the right direction, but it'll still take some time. I'm not sure Ole Miss and Mississippi State will sustain their success though and I just don't think LSU is very good and will ever be really, really good again with Les at the helm. Alabama and Auburn will be there though and I'm not sure what to think about A&M.
I think what it comes down to is that I don't like Arkansas and honestly I never had a problem with them until I got on here and that opened my eyes to plenty more. That being said, I've always respected Arkansas. Admittedly, before the past few years A-State had down little at the FBS (Division 1-A) level to warrant much respect, but what we've done the past four years is something I didn't know I'd ever see at Arkansas State and I think it deserves a little respect, especially from within the state, and I think it has gotten some for the most part.
Come on. Would you rather take a little ribbing from a fellow Warrenites/Arkansan than a big mouth Stuttgart girl, ha.
Quote from: dc24 on November 22, 2014, 04:29:57 pm
Quote from: Moonshiner on November 22, 2014, 08:21:46 am
I don't think ASU sucks. I've always supported ASU and still pull for them every time they play. Just get tired of the fans thinking they could compete better in the SEC or "stomp" Arkansas. It's not gonna happen.
Tell me who has said that? You guys take any positive thing about A-State as a shot at Arkansas. I haven't seen anyone on here claiming we could beat Arkansas or would be better in the SEC than them. And if someone did, well every fan base has their crazies. The last few years I think we could have given you guys a game, maybe even beat you once, but no one will ever know. I've never used the word stomped though, so I don't know where you're getting that from.
Never said anyone on here said those things. Some people I know who are ASU faithful have said that, and plenty more. And I know they visit this site. I have a degree from ASU and do respect what they've been able to do as of late. But some of your fans are trying to make me not like them.
Quote from: AirWarren on November 22, 2014, 06:09:58 pm
Come on. Would you rather take a little ribbing from a fellow Warrenites/Arkansan than a big mouth Stuttgart girl, ha.
From the ones I know, it appears all Stuttgart girls have big mouths.
All people from that stupid town run their mouth too much. My man Dc needs to stiffin up some ha.
Quote from: AirWarren on November 22, 2014, 06:09:58 pm
Come on. Would you rather take a little ribbing from a fellow Warrenites/Arkansan than a big mouth Stuttgart girl, ha.
Honestly, I've stopped reading all the Stuttgart people's stuff on the 4A board. Every one of them has it out for Warren, not sure if it's jealousy or what, but I just don't even care about them anymore haha.
Quote from: Moonshiner on November 22, 2014, 06:12:44 pm
Quote from: dc24 on November 22, 2014, 04:29:57 pm
Quote from: Moonshiner on November 22, 2014, 08:21:46 am
I don't think ASU sucks. I've always supported ASU and still pull for them every time they play. Just get tired of the fans thinking they could compete better in the SEC or "stomp" Arkansas. It's not gonna happen.
Tell me who has said that? You guys take any positive thing about A-State as a shot at Arkansas. I haven't seen anyone on here claiming we could beat Arkansas or would be better in the SEC than them. And if someone did, well every fan base has their crazies. The last few years I think we could have given you guys a game, maybe even beat you once, but no one will ever know. I've never used the word stomped though, so I don't know where you're getting that from.
Never said anyone on here said those things. Some people I know who are ASU faithful have said that, and plenty more. And I know they visit this site. I have a degree from ASU and do respect what they've been able to do as of late. But some of your fans are trying to make me not like them.
Every fan base has their crazies. I know there are some Arkansas fans that thought they had a shot at the national championship this year. There are probably some Raider fans who still think they can win the Super Bowl. If you take what every fan base's crazies say seriously then you're not going to like ANY team at any level of competition. All the way from pro ball to pee wee ball.
Quote from: dc24 on November 23, 2014, 12:22:54 am
Quote from: Moonshiner on November 22, 2014, 06:12:44 pm
Quote from: dc24 on November 22, 2014, 04:29:57 pm
Quote from: Moonshiner on November 22, 2014, 08:21:46 am
I don't think ASU sucks. I've always supported ASU and still pull for them every time they play. Just get tired of the fans thinking they could compete better in the SEC or "stomp" Arkansas. It's not gonna happen.
Tell me who has said that? You guys take any positive thing about A-State as a shot at Arkansas. I haven't seen anyone on here claiming we could beat Arkansas or would be better in the SEC than them. And if someone did, well every fan base has their crazies. The last few years I think we could have given you guys a game, maybe even beat you once, but no one will ever know. I've never used the word stomped though, so I don't know where you're getting that from.
Never said anyone on here said those things. Some people I know who are ASU faithful have said that, and plenty more. And I know they visit this site. I have a degree from ASU and do respect what they've been able to do as of late. But some of your fans are trying to make me not like them.
Every fan base has their crazies. I know there are some Arkansas fans that thought they had a shot at the national championship this year. There are probably some Raider fans who still think they can win the Super Bowl. If you take what every fan base's crazies say seriously then you're not going to like ANY team at any level of competition. All the way from pro ball to pee wee ball.
Agreed
Quote from: dc24 on November 22, 2014, 02:07:44 am
It makes them feel better to type that A-State sucks so they don't have to think about being the SEC West's whipping boy year in and year out.
LOL... they have won 2 games now and it's back to the "We #1 in the world!" posts..haha.
Hope the Red Wolves do a better job! While I think Coach is doing a good job, I think they have lost focus.
Love the Red Wolves!!
Quote from: Donnie Jamon on November 26, 2014, 11:05:31 am
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Quote from: True Believer on November 23, 2014, 05:00:51 pm
Quote from: dc24 on November 22, 2014, 02:07:44 am
It makes them feel better to type that A-State sucks so they don't have to think about being the SEC West's whipping boy year in and year out.
LOL... they have won 2 games now and it's back to the "We #1 in the world!" posts..haha.
Hope the Red Wolves do a better job! While I think Coach is doing a good job, I think they have lost focus.
Love the Red Wolves!!
#1 in the world? No way. #1 in the State? Naturally.
But I do Love the Red Wolves too
Quote from: Moonshiner on November 26, 2014, 06:00:28 pm
Quote from: True Believer on November 23, 2014, 05:00:51 pm
Quote from: dc24 on November 22, 2014, 02:07:44 am
It makes them feel better to type that A-State sucks so they don't have to think about being the SEC West's whipping boy year in and year out.
LOL... they have won 2 games now and it's back to the "We #1 in the world!" posts..haha.
Hope the Red Wolves do a better job! While I think Coach is doing a good job, I think they have lost focus.
Love the Red Wolves!!
#1 in the world? No way. #1 in the State? Naturally.
But I do Love the Red Wolves too
It would be nice if it was decided on the field instead of your say so.
Hey I agree 100%. Maybe a bowl game. I'm for it
4th straight for Arkansas State.
Go Daddy Bowl again.
Good going coaches and players. Hope the coach stays......lol!!!!
4th straight BarnyardBeauties.com Bowl.
lol
Quote from: Uncle Ivan on December 06, 2014, 08:33:50 pm
4th straight BarnyardBeauties.com Bowl.
lol
Not taking anything away from State, but been there for the last 2 Bowl games and ain't going back to the same hole again! AD needs to do a better job of selling the team. 4 years and the same bowl, really! However, it is better than nothing! Go Wolves!!!!!
EVEN THOUGH I'M AN INDIAN
Quote from: Jacketman65 on December 08, 2014, 12:18:57 am
Quote from: Uncle Ivan on December 06, 2014, 08:33:50 pm
4th straight BarnyardBeauties.com Bowl.
lol
Not taking anything away from State, but been there for the last 2 Bowl games and ain't going back to the same hole again! AD needs to do a better job of selling the team. 4 years and the same bowl, really! However, it is better than nothing! Go Wolves!!!!!
EVEN THOUGH I'M AN INDIAN
I like Mobile and the stadium could be better, but it isn't bad. And there isn't much else we could do here. We're honestly pretty lucky that Georgia Southern and Appalachian State weren't bowl eligible this year. Not much selling he could do. Can't help it either when the other bowl tie-in we had up until this year's Camelia Bowl was the New Orleans Bowl and they had the choice to take ULL just down the road.
Let's Go Red Wolves!!!
Go Rockets.
Toledo 21
stAte 14
end of first
I like Qushan Lee. He flies to the ball.
Pick 6 for ASU. Still in it Red Wolves!!! 42-31
That defense is just sorry overall. They better find out how to slow hunt down real real quick.
Arkansas would have a billion trillion yards rushing against the d I am seeing tonight.
ASU is in a heap of trouble with this coach! Too many negatives said about the players that he inherited from the previous staffs. Where is Gordon's 200 + yards that he bragged that he was going to get - MVP? Think I will stop for now. Yes Brian the U of A would have had their way with ASU, the polo team would have scored a TD on them tonight.
Most discusting comment by Blake Anderson at the half, "we didn't think they would blitz that much". UNPREPAIRED! Gotta give it to Freddie though, the kid did not quit! Congrats to him.
D coordinator should be fired his schemes for stopping the run have been awful this year.
Here's something you don't see everyday:
http://deadspin.com/arkansas-state-player-ejected-for-threatening-an-offici-1677460792
YIKES!! That was really bad. Maybe Coach A should have stayed home...lol! They do better without their head coach there. :) Oh well. On to next year.
Great write up about the Seniors. So proud of them for never giving up during the past few years. Sad to hear about the player acting like that. No need for it.
Howling on to next year!!! Go Red Wolves!!! Still love my team! :)
Quote from: bleudog on January 05, 2015, 06:59:43 am
Here's something you don't see everyday:
http://deadspin.com/arkansas-state-player-ejected-for-threatening-an-offici-1677460792
I have never seen this in a football game. Now baseball it is not rare at all.
Womp womp.............womp.
HA ha
Great job by our coaching staff and great year again for the Red Wolves. Four straight bowl appearances is something I never thought I'd see.
As for the game. We're finally seeing what four straight coaching changes does, and it took a toll on our depth this year. There are several former walk-ons on the two-deep, especially on defense, and a few guys get hurt and you're looking pretty bleak there. We have a redshirt-freshman DE, who made a freshman All-American team, that got hurt a few games ago that didn't play and our interior DL has seen several true freshmen playing and a guy, Clifford Thomas, that was an OL last year. With a full season of recruiting and most of our class in place, I hope we have some replacements for guys on defense like Q. Lee, Sterling Young, and Andrew Tryon.
I don't think it was scheme or anything we did, they were just better than us up front. We struggled all year with teams that would run like that and had lines much bigger than ours. Our strength was our speed and pass rush, but when you have a team with five senior OL, it was going to be a long night in that regard. I thought it was interesting that they never held all night either. Wouldn't have changed much, but I know there were a few they didn't call.
Our offense was pretty good though. I didn't expect them to stop the run the way they did, but we passed all over them. If we didn't spot them 14 points, it would have been a shootout either team could have won. And they got all the bounces. We fumbled twice in the first half and they returned them for TD's, well one was an interception, but they fumble twice and they are able to get back on them. That's football though, can't expect to get all the bounces.
Quote from: BrianfromCarlisle on January 04, 2015, 11:15:25 pm
Arkansas would have a billion trillion yards rushing against the d I am seeing tonight.
We didn't play Arkansas so that isn't important, why even make that statement?
Quote from: Jacketman65 on January 05, 2015, 12:53:36 am
Most discusting comment by Blake Anderson at the half, "we didn't think they would blitz that much". UNPREPAIRED! Gotta give it to Freddie though, the kid did not quit! Congrats to him.
Well when a team has about a month to prepare for you, they might do things they haven't done all year. Coach Bell said he was a little worried what they might do because they didn't play a team like us all year, at least that goes the same speed we do, so they had nothing to go off of in that regard.
Still can't believe some people hate the Red Wolves so much, especially on a board that is for high school football in Arkansas. Got kids competing for our program from all over the state.
Quote from: dc24 on January 05, 2015, 03:48:31 pm
Quote from: BrianfromCarlisle on January 04, 2015, 11:15:25 pm
Arkansas would have a billion trillion yards rushing against the d I am seeing tonight.
We didn't play Arkansas so that isn't important, why even make that statement?
Just an observation. Hogs O line and RBs would decimate that Defensive front. They have got to improve that dramatically.
Quote from: BrianfromCarlisle on January 05, 2015, 06:54:40 pm
Quote from: dc24 on January 05, 2015, 03:48:31 pm
Quote from: BrianfromCarlisle on January 04, 2015, 11:15:25 pm
Arkansas would have a billion trillion yards rushing against the d I am seeing tonight.
We didn't play Arkansas so that isn't important, why even make that statement?
Just an observation. Hogs O line and RBs would decimate that Defensive front. They have got to improve that dramatically.
They would, no argument there, but Arkansas did that to several teams, several top-25 teams, so it isn't like it's a surprise. We have to get better, but more importantly we have to get more depth and get bigger. We're a better pass rush team with our smallish guys, but creates mismatches in the run game, as was shown against ULL and then Toledo last night.
Scary thing is all of the Juco players they are bringing in. Takes time to build a program. I thought they were doing that the past years! Is Anderson looking for the quick fix in order to move on in a couple of years? Too many Juco players means disaster down the road. IMO
When Toledo basically ran 2 plays the entire game then it was the scheme. The scheme hasn't changed since ULL and that's when we started having problems stopping the run. Cauthen was not able to adapt his defense during the season. ULL found the weakness in the plan, then everybody else was able to exploit it. Him not making an attempt to fix it for 7 games then that is a problem.
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Loved the red helmets and tops. It was already obvious asu was trying to be Arkansas.
Quote from: Jacketman65 on January 06, 2015, 09:56:27 am
Scary thing is all of the Juco players they are bringing in. Takes time to build a program. I thought they were doing that the past years! Is Anderson looking for the quick fix in order to move on in a couple of years? Too many Juco players means disaster down the road. IMO
We only signed six JUCO players in the fall and had a handful last year. Signing JUCO players isn't a problem, as long as they can play. When you need immediate help, JUCO is the route to go and the guys we signed should help quickly, but our high school class looks solid, as long as they stay committed and no one else swoops in to get them. Generally, I would agree with you though, but we need them right now. Got to let those high school kids develop some. That was one reason we've been so successful the past few years is because Roberts especially tried to redshirt every true freshmen we signed.
Quote from: birdman16 on January 06, 2015, 10:26:09 am
When Toledo basically ran 2 plays the entire game then it was the scheme. The scheme hasn't changed since ULL and that's when we started having problems stopping the run. Cauthen was not able to adapt his defense during the season. ULL found the weakness in the plan, then everybody else was able to exploit it. Him not making an attempt to fix it for 7 games then that is a problem.
I don't think it was the scheme, so agree to disagree, we just didn't have the bodies to compete with the teams that had huge OL's that were run oriented. Whenever we played passing teams, we were fine because that's what our skill set was. We just didn't have the depth on defense to be effective all year. We would have had to stay completely healthy and that's almost an impossible task and leaning on so many freshmen in that area just took its toll. I'm sure there were things schematically that could have been changed to help, but when you've got five, fifth-year senior offensive linemen going against a group that is mostly freshmen, it's probably going to get ugly no matter the scheme.
Tough way to end the year. I hope the Tribe does great in the 2015 Season.