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Poll
Question: Who takes it home this year?
Option 1: Dardanelle votes: 7
Option 2: Dover votes: 0
Option 3: Mena votes: 0
Option 4: Ozark votes: 7
Option 5: Pottsville votes: 0
Option 6: MIA votes: 2
Option 7: Waldron votes: 1
Title: 4A-4 2018
Post by: x14113 on August 04, 2018, 01:53:48 am
FINAL 2018 4A-4 JH standings














Rank   School                       Conf.                 Overall
{1}Ozark5-09-0
{2}Dardanelle4-18-1
{3}Pottsville3-24-4
{4}Mena2-33-5
{5}Waldron1-43-5
{6}Dover0-50-7


Week 10 Scores:
Dardanelle 29, Charleston 14
Ozark 38, Booneville 16
Waldron 23, Mansfield 16


Original Post Below:

QuoteI'm starting to see discussions of this subject elsewhere, so...why not start now?

What I expect:

Title Contenders: Dardanelle, Ozark--It'll be the Duke Walker show in Hillbilly Country this season, with establishing the supporting roles being the biggest question. Expect the Lizards to be the toughest challenger in conference play.

On the Fence: Pottsville, Waldron--These were the top two teams in 7G play last year, and how quickly those players on both sides develop as 8G'ers will be a factor this season.

Playing Spoiler: Mena--I'm only putting them here because I don't know that much about them, but stepping in for last year's freshmen will be a tough act to follow.

Looking to Surprise: Dover--I haven't seen enough from the Pirates to inspire confidence, but you may never know.

Missing in Action: Elkins, Subiaco--In a mix of convenience and prescience, the Elks have decided to caucus with the 4A-1 in JH play the next two seasons. The Trojans, meanwhile, are trying to poach Decatur's 2A-4 schedule.
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: Sigmund Sauer on August 04, 2018, 03:19:40 am
I think u nailed it man. It will come down to Ozark and Dardanelle. Both were missing several starters in that 1st team camp and still looked levels above the rest I've seen. I thought Ozark would finish undefeated last year. Will Sanders play much of a role this year on Sr. High X? That young man was very impressive!
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: Gray lizard on August 06, 2018, 12:14:19 pm
I went to watch a team camp where Dardanelle and Pottsville were a part of.  Dardanelle looks to be a solid team.  Pottsville has lost to many players I am afraid.  It may be a long season for them.  Pottsville has a few good players but lack in depth and line play.
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: The Coach on August 06, 2018, 10:53:00 pm
What would've been pottsvilles best 8th grader to be is now a SandLizard. His older brother will be the starting QB for the Sr High Lizards.
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: x14113 on August 07, 2018, 12:14:06 am
Quote from: Sigmund Sauer on August 04, 2018, 03:19:40 am
Will Sanders play much of a role this year on Sr. High X? That young man was very impressive!

He's mostly trained in the same positions as Graham, but I wouldn't be surprised if the coaches find a way to work him in somewhere.
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: Gray lizard on August 07, 2018, 07:53:30 am
Quote from: The Coach on August 06, 2018, 10:53:00 pm
What would've been pottsvilles best 8th grader to be is now a SandLizard. His older brother will be the starting QB for the Sr High Lizards.

Yes his dad got a job in the Dardanelle school district ROTC.  He would have contributed but I do not think he would have started as a running back, but most likely would have started on defense.  I do not think he will get as much playing time at Dardanelle as he would have at Pottsville.  He does have potential to be a very good player. I think his brother was already in the Dardanelle school district.
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: The Coach on August 07, 2018, 10:48:46 am
Quote from: Gray lizard on August 07, 2018, 07:53:30 am
Yes his dad got a job in the Dardanelle school district ROTC.  He would have contributed but I do not think he would have started as a running back, but most likely would have started on defense.  I do not think he will get as much playing time at Dardanelle as he would have at Pottsville.  He does have potential to be a very good player. I think his brother was already in the Dardanelle school district.

His 2 older brothers and sister are at or have graduated from Dardanelle.
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: x14113 on August 13, 2018, 02:13:51 pm
Here are the benefit games I've confirmed so far.

Thursday 8/16
Dardanelle v Booneville @ Russellville, 6:00

Monday 8/20
Ftn. Lake @ Waldron, 5:30 (precedes HS scrimmages)
Alma/Farmington @ Ozark, 6:00
Lamar @ Dover, 6:00

Let's see if we can find anything for the other two...!
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: Gray lizard on August 14, 2018, 12:09:15 pm
Pottsville @ Clinton 08/23 7 pm I think.
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: The Coach on August 14, 2018, 08:56:05 pm
Quote from: x14113 on August 13, 2018, 02:13:51 pm
Here are the benefit games I've confirmed so far.

Thursday 8/16
Dardanelle @ Booneville, 6:00

Monday 8/20
Ftn. Lake @ Waldron, 5:30 (precedes HS scrimmages)
Alma/Farmington @ Ozark, 6:00
Lamar @ Dover, 6:00

Thursday 8/23
Dardanelle @ Gentry, 5:30 (A second scrimmage? This may count as an actual game now; stay tuned...)

Let's see if we can find anything for the other three...!

Dardanelle @ Gentry is an actual game for Dardanelle at least since they are scrimmaging booneville.
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: Gray lizard on August 16, 2018, 12:48:32 pm
Quote from: Gray lizard on August 14, 2018, 12:09:15 pm
Pottsville @ Clinton 08/23 7 pm I think.
Confirmed
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: The Coach on August 16, 2018, 09:38:22 pm
Dardanelle and Booneville played a half with Dardanelle winning 14-0
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: Gray lizard on August 17, 2018, 08:13:29 am
Yes and Dardanelle looks to have a very good team with a lot of speed.  I expect them to be in the hunt for the 4A conference title this year.
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: x14113 on August 17, 2018, 10:29:19 pm
I just saw on Twitter that Ozark is looking for an opponent to replace Subi.

Will the Trojans even play a JH schedule this year?

(The schedule on Subi's site reflects no changes.)
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: The Coach on August 17, 2018, 11:52:01 pm
Quote from: x14113 on August 17, 2018, 10:29:19 pm
I just saw on Twitter that Ozark is looking for an opponent to replace Subi.

Will the Trojans even play a JH schedule this year?

(The schedule on Subi's site reflects no changes.)

No they aren't cause Dard is looking for a wk 8 now as well
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: Sigmund Sauer on August 17, 2018, 11:58:43 pm
So, just when their weather postponed SR. High scrimmage against Paris showed a glimmer (word "glimmer" heavily emphasized) of hope, they shutter the JR. High program? Someone make the Abbey behave........
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: x14113 on August 18, 2018, 08:32:42 am
So it seems that Subi saw an opportunity when Decatur went 8-man and is working to replace a 4A-4 schedule with a 2A-4 slate.

So that make two teams that are MIA this cycle.
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: Sigmund Sauer on August 18, 2018, 09:11:52 pm
Quote from: x14113 on August 18, 2018, 08:32:42 am
So it seems that Subi saw an opportunity when Decatur went 8-man and is working to replace a 4A-4 schedule with a 2A-4 slate.

So that make two teams that are MIA this cycle.

SMH, impeccable timing. Do they even have Summer workouts?
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: HSfan on August 20, 2018, 07:17:15 am
They do have summer workouts but only for kids in the area. Coaches never have a finalized JH/SH roster until after the first day of school. That probably also doesn't account for the new 7-9 grade kids that think they want to play and then quit the first week.

I've heard they have 18-19 kids on JH and the majority of those numbers are 7th graders.
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: Gray lizard on August 20, 2018, 11:52:37 am
That is just not right.  So teams are now stuck with an open date.  A 5 game conference. I don't think they should be allowed to play at all if they don't play conference games.
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: x14113 on August 20, 2018, 09:19:45 pm
It's looking like Ozark has work to do on D. Too many missed tackles, for one.

The O is capable of moving the ball...unless the snap goes over the QB's head.
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: Gray lizard on August 21, 2018, 09:27:02 am
So their QB takes the snap from under center? (8)
From what I have heard and seen Dardanelle has to be a strong favorite for the 4.
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: x14113 on August 22, 2018, 09:51:54 am
Ozark has filled its week 5 opening.

They'll be going to Hendrix to play Mtn. Home.

As a side effect, the 7G will now play that week.
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: x14113 on August 23, 2018, 12:17:41 am
With one day left until kickoff:

Week 0 Game

Dardanelle @ Gentry

Let's see how the younger folks adjust to defending the single wing...!
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: Gray lizard on August 23, 2018, 07:50:52 am
Quote from: x14113 on August 23, 2018, 12:17:41 am
With one day left until kickoff:

Week 0 Game

Dardanelle @ Gentry

Let's see how the younger folks adjust to defending the single wing...!

I would think Dardanelle with the speed they have finds a way to get to the ball.  Gentry better stop their runners and passing at the line of scrimmage.
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: The Coach on August 23, 2018, 11:24:12 am
Not sure Gentry is running the single wing in junior high.
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: The Coach on August 23, 2018, 09:16:09 pm
7th grade
Gentry 22 Dardanelle 6

JH
Dardanelle 36 Gentry 14
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: Gray lizard on August 24, 2018, 07:54:56 am
Pottsville Jr boys looked ok against Clinton.  They played decent defense, but are small on the line on both offence and defense.  They have trouble maintaining a drive, but have the ability to break a big play with the speed in the back field.
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: Sigmund Sauer on August 25, 2018, 08:57:40 pm
Any word on Mena Jr. High? Anyone see them in team camps, scrimmage, etc.
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: Gray lizard on August 28, 2018, 12:12:01 pm
Pottsville is playing Johnson County West Side this week.  I have never seen them play.  What can they expect?  What kind of offence/defense. 
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: x14113 on August 29, 2018, 08:01:35 pm
Currently, the Rebels run the spread on offense, and a 3-4 base on defense. They might use something different against the Dead-T, though.

Westside is mediocre at best in its own conference. The Apaches should have little trouble against them.


And with that:

Week 1 Games

Charleston @ Dardanelle
Atkins @ Dover
De Queen @ Mena
Ozark @ Booneville
Pottsville @ Westside
Mansfield @ Waldron
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: x14113 on August 30, 2018, 06:51:02 pm
Ain't no weather delay long enough...!

Ozark 30
Booneville 14
7G
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: x14113 on August 30, 2018, 07:48:43 pm
Ozark @ Booneville JH game has been postponed due to lightning. It'll be made up in Week 10.

Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: The Coach on August 30, 2018, 09:34:25 pm
Dardanelle and Charleston cancelled until week 10
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: Gray lizard on August 31, 2018, 07:41:40 am
Pottsville 34 (or 38I cant remember for sure) Johnson County WS 18.
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: Sigmund Sauer on August 31, 2018, 11:47:26 am
Quote from: x14113 on August 30, 2018, 07:48:43 pm
Ozark @ Booneville JH game has been postponed due to lightning. It'll be made up in Week 10.
Did Booneville jr high win or lose against Clarksville on the 23rd? Their Hudl pages don't agree on the outcome.
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: Gray lizard on August 31, 2018, 12:42:06 pm
My wife said Dover bus was at Clarksville last night.  X shows Atkins anyone know?
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: Sigmund Sauer on August 31, 2018, 12:51:22 pm
Quote from: Gray lizard on August 31, 2018, 12:42:06 pm
My wife said Dover bus was at Clarksville last night.  X shows Atkins anyone know?
volleyball game
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: Gray lizard on August 31, 2018, 01:15:37 pm
Quote from: Sigmund Sauer on August 31, 2018, 12:51:22 pm
volleyball game
Thanks I was questing what she saw.  Good thing I kept my mouth shut.
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: x14113 on August 31, 2018, 03:48:03 pm
Yeah, having VBall games on the same night might get confusing in a few places.

I saw a Lincoln bus parked next to Booneville's gym as I was driving up to park. I would've sworn I saw a Magazine bus drive up, too.
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: x14113 on August 31, 2018, 03:50:53 pm
Quote from: Sigmund Sauer on August 31, 2018, 11:47:26 am
Did Booneville jr high win or lose against Clarksville on the 23rd? Their Hudl pages don't agree on the outcome.

According to Glenn M. Parrish of the Booneville Democrat:

Clarksville 34
Booneville 26
JH
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: Sigmund Sauer on August 31, 2018, 05:02:46 pm
Quote from: x14113 on August 31, 2018, 03:50:53 pm
According to Glenn M. Parrish of the Booneville Democrat:

Clarksville 34
Booneville 26
JH
That makes sense. From what I've seen, Clarksville JH is better than last year and Booneville has taken a step back. I'll try not to derail from the 4A track much more.
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: x14113 on September 01, 2018, 01:11:44 am
Quote from: Sigmund Sauer on August 31, 2018, 05:02:46 pm
From what I've seen, Clarksville JH is better than last year and Booneville has taken a step back.

If the Bearcats are taking a step back in the presence of Randon Ray, that is a major red flag.

Ozark will see first-hand how much the Panthers have improved. The Hillbillies blew them out in 7G play two years back.

Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: x14113 on September 01, 2018, 11:33:51 am
Mansfield @ Waldron might not have been played last week.

At last check, they were trying to ride out the storm, but nothing beyond.

In other news:

Mena 20
De Queen 6

Atkins 28
Dover 8
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: x14113 on September 05, 2018, 10:14:11 pm
Gordon could be a major impact this week. Don't be surprised if we get another wave of washouts.

With that:


Week 2 Games

Prairie Grove @ Dardanelle
Dover @ Danville
Russellville @ Mena
Ozark @ Clarksville
Booneville @ Pottsville
Waldron @ Paris
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: friscokid on September 05, 2018, 10:50:59 pm
Quote from: Sigmund Sauer on August 31, 2018, 12:51:22 pm
volleyball game
Dover added volleyball?
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: x14113 on September 05, 2018, 11:10:10 pm
Yup. As have Ozark and Pottsville.

More digs coming to a gym near you.  8)
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: x14113 on September 06, 2018, 06:22:13 pm
Ozark 30
Clarksville 0
7G
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: x14113 on September 06, 2018, 08:32:22 pm
Warming up on defense...!

Ozark 14
Clarksville 12
JH
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: x14113 on September 06, 2018, 09:25:35 pm
Other Scores:

Booneville 28
Pottsville 14

Dardanelle 22
Prairie Grove 13

Russellville 21
Mena 0

Waldron 12
Paris 8
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: Gray lizard on September 07, 2018, 08:08:29 am
Pottsville Jr boys played a good game.  A couple fumbled balls and missed tackles let it get away. Now if they can just fix that before next week.
Pottsville stopped Booneville's first drive and scored first.  Booneville then scored to tie the game.  Pottsville scored again to go ahead and Bonneville tied the game just before half.  Booneville scored twice in the second half while Pottsville dropped the ball and never made another successfull drive.
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: x14113 on September 07, 2018, 12:33:34 pm
It looked early on like the Panthers would run away with the game after jumping out to a 12-0 lead on their first two possessions, but a combination of grievous errors and defensive adjustments let the Hillbillies back into it.

It seems Ozark's biggest need of improvement is in the OL. When they played well, our skill guys could run at will. otherwise, it was a TFL.

Overall, a scrappy result with a lot of upside. Next week ought to be another good test.
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: x14113 on September 09, 2018, 02:08:13 am
It took a while, but I've confirmation in writing that Mansfield @ Waldron was postponed in Week 1.

No idea whether it'll be made up.
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: x14113 on September 11, 2018, 11:16:28 pm
Conference play starts a week early in the JH ranks. At least the opening it leaves may be put to good use.


Week 3 Games

Mena @ Dardanelle (C)
Ftn. Lake @ Dover
Shiloh @ Ozark
Pottsville @ Prairie Grove
FS Trinity @ Waldron

(Still awaiting a final on last week's Dover game...)
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: Sigmund Sauer on September 12, 2018, 08:45:40 am
Quote from: x14113 on September 11, 2018, 11:16:28 pm
Conference play starts a week early in the JH ranks. At least the opening it leaves may be put to good use.


Week 3 Games

Mena @ Dardanelle (C)
Ftn. Lake @ Dover
Shiloh @ Ozark
Pottsville @ Prairie Grove
FS Trinity @ Waldron

(Still awaiting a final on last week's Dover game...)

Danville 32 Dover 14
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: Gray lizard on September 13, 2018, 01:14:06 pm
I got to watch the film on the Pottsville Bonneville game.  Fumbles cost them the chance to win the game. If Pottsville can correct the snap and hold onto the ball they will be a decent team in the district.
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: x14113 on September 13, 2018, 06:31:31 pm
Ozark 28
Shiloh 6
7G
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: x14113 on September 13, 2018, 08:37:22 pm
Defense steps up again...!

Ozark 14
Shiloh 6
JH
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: x14113 on September 13, 2018, 10:02:12 pm
Other scores:

Prairie Grove 27
Pottsville 8

Dardanelle 28
Mena 6

FS Trinity 19
Waldron 14
(Courtesy of a walk-off KO return by the Buffs)

FL @ Dover was called off. Turns out the Cobras were supposed to go to Ashdown tonight. Whoops...
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: x14113 on September 13, 2018, 11:56:39 pm
Speaking of Dover, tonight's events just made me realize something.

With the varsity opening with the two teams that are MIA in JH play in consecutive weeks, that means there have been open spots we haven't discussed.

Will the Pirates really go four weeks between playing games?
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: Gray lizard on September 14, 2018, 07:54:57 am
This is a disaster no way it should have been allowed.  I would make their High schools give up all home games or not allow them to play either.  It is just not fair to the boys to take two games off the schedule and now three for Dover it sounds like.

My JR Apaches continue to have turn over problems.  Maybe it can turn around cause they are a much better team than the final score shows.
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: coachc9 on September 14, 2018, 09:33:55 am
I believe Dover and waldron will be playing next week because each have open weeks. That way neither have more open weeks than they have to throughout the season. Also allows 9th graders to move up early at the end of the season. Not positive on this though.
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: Gray lizard on September 14, 2018, 10:30:27 am
Subiaco is Pottsvilles last game so their season will end a week early.  Not sure any 9th graders will contribute to the high school. This whole situation just leaves a bad taste in my mouth.  I bet they want to play basketball.  All the other teams should drop them in basketball and let them see how it feels. Subiaco being a all boys school already causes problems for the district in girls basketball.
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: x14113 on September 14, 2018, 01:03:34 pm
Quote from: coachc9 on September 14, 2018, 09:33:55 am
I believe Dover and waldron will be playing next week because each have open weeks. That way neither have more open weeks than they have to throughout the season. Also allows 9th graders to move up early at the end of the season. Not positive on this though.

I have noticed that Leland Barclay lists their varsity game for Thursday 11/1, so that is plausible.

There's an online newspaper that covers Waldron, so I can double-check through that.
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: x14113 on September 18, 2018, 10:03:12 pm
We'll just have to keep our eyes peeled for any potential filled openings.

For now:


Week 4 Games

Ozark @ Mena
Dardanelle @ Pottsville
Dover @ Waldron (?)
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: coachc9 on September 19, 2018, 08:11:05 am
Dover and Waldron are playing tomorrow.
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: Gray lizard on September 19, 2018, 08:55:59 am
Pottsville could sure use a win.  Hope they can hold onto the ball and finish drives. If they do they have a chance, but if they don't it could get out of hand real fast.
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: Gray lizard on September 20, 2018, 01:59:52 pm
I hope Pottsville does ok.  I am cooking pulled pork for the teams pregame meal.  When I signed up to do it I did not realize that included the 7th grade team as well.  That is a lot of butts to smoke. 
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: Sigmund Sauer on September 20, 2018, 02:11:00 pm
Quote from: Gray lizard on September 20, 2018, 01:59:52 pm
I hope Pottsville does ok.  I am cooking pulled pork for the teams pregame meal.  When I signed up to do it I did not realize that included the 7th grade team as well.  That is a lot of butts to smoke.
The heat today is simply oppressive. 105 heat index. I can't even imagine having to walk to the mailbox after a plate of pulled pork in this weather. I could sure handle a long nap after though.
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: beach bum on September 20, 2018, 05:05:05 pm
Quote from: Gray lizard on September 20, 2018, 01:59:52 pm
I hope Pottsville does ok.  I am cooking pulled pork for the teams pregame meal.  When I signed up to do it I did not realize that included the 7th grade team as well.  That is a lot of butts to smoke.


Dang you're spoiling those kids down there haha....
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: x14113 on September 20, 2018, 06:31:05 pm
Ozark 20
Mena 6
7G
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: x14113 on September 20, 2018, 08:12:47 pm
No cheerleaders, no problem...!

Ozark 42
Mena 0
JH
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: The Coach on September 20, 2018, 10:08:05 pm
Dardanelle 23
Pottsville 0
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: x14113 on September 20, 2018, 10:43:10 pm
One last goose egg to share:

Waldron 34
Dover 0
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: Gray lizard on September 21, 2018, 07:57:43 am
Quote from: The Coach on September 20, 2018, 10:08:05 pm
Dardanelle 23
Pottsville 0
Well the pulled pork held them pretty good.  I just hate it for this team they were in the game 8-0 with around 4:20 or so left in the 4th.  Turnovers just kill them.  When they have to go into passing mode they just fall apart. If they could ever stop the turnovers they would be a decent team.
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: Sigmund Sauer on September 21, 2018, 10:53:56 am
Quote from: x14113 on September 20, 2018, 08:12:47 pm
No cheerleaders, no problem...!

Ozark 42
Mena 0
JH
Ozark hudl page says 33-6, though I realize hudl is often inaccurate.
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: Sigmund Sauer on September 21, 2018, 11:08:28 am
Ah, says 42-0 now. Someone somewhere is correct! Lol Not much difference either way really.
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: Gray lizard on September 21, 2018, 03:24:50 pm
Hey The Coach you every notice the Dardanelle coaches are on the field during the game?  Looking at the film I notice out to the numbers a lot of the time in the 4th 1/4.
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: The Coach on September 21, 2018, 04:56:06 pm
Dardanelle had 3 turnovers themselves that kept the game close. All 3 turnovers were inside the 20 and Pottsville probably didn't have 75 total yards of offense and that's a big maybe only having like 3 first downs all night. They only completed 1 pass for negative yards and Only crossed midfield twice after a bad snap on a Dardanelle punt and a good KO return at the end of the game.

No on the coaches if they are on the field it's usually 1 and he is  typically 15-20 yards behind the play with no direct impact on any play.
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: Gray lizard on September 21, 2018, 09:35:09 pm
Well coach could you be more negative. I think not. I  will rewatch the film as I think you have misstatements in your post.
For your information coaches are not allowed on the field of play period.
You make it sound like Dardanelle ran all over Pottsville and that was not the case.
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: The Coach on September 21, 2018, 10:25:49 pm
Quote from: Gray lizard on September 21, 2018, 09:35:09 pm
Well coach could you be more negative. I think not. I  will rewatch the film as I think you have misstatements in your post.
For your information coaches are not allowed on the field of play period.
You make it sound like Dardanelle ran all over Pottsville and that was not the case.

Def no misstatements in my post at all. Pottsville had more 3 and outs then first downs. Dardanelle did move the ball most of the game pretty well as they ran for almost 200 yards just had trouble finishing the drives with TD's early and as I stated they had 3 turnovers inside the 20 and 2 of those inside the 10.

You make it sound as though a coach being on the field 20 yards behind the play had something to do with the outcome.
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: Gray lizard on September 21, 2018, 11:31:17 pm
I watched the game again.
Maybe only 3 first downs 5 total
Dardanelle had 11
Only crossed mid field twice
Crossed 50 3 times
1 pass completed for loss
It was actually 1/2 yard gain.
Dardanelle had at least 7 incomplete pass. I did not count the first 2 drives.
And never said the coaches interfered with the game.
I just found it strange they out to the numbers when the ball was snapped.
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: The Coach on September 22, 2018, 09:12:31 am
Quote from: Gray lizard on September 21, 2018, 11:31:17 pm
I watched the game again.
Maybe only 3 first downs 5 total
Dardanelle had 11
Only crossed mid field twice
Crossed 50 3 times
1 pass completed for loss
It was actually 1/2 yard gain.
Dardanelle had at least 7 incomplete pass. I did not count the first 2 drives.
And never said the coaches interfered with the game.
I just found it strange they out to the numbers when the ball was snapped.

You should watch again cause they gained 3 first downs total and those were all on the last 2 possessions of the 1st half.  They had 5 drives end with a 3 and out,  2 with interceptions and 1 with a fumble lost. They didn't get a first down in the 2nd half. They only crossed the 50 twice. They got to the 50 on a KO return and threw a pick 6 on the first play so they didn't actually cross it. The pass completion was for negative or no gain according to where the ball was spotted for the next play. Not that it matters cause all I was doing was giving a run down of how the game went for other posters. It was a good hard fought game between 2 rivals and Dardanelle made more plays in the end to get the W.


Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: x14113 on September 26, 2018, 08:46:21 pm
Now that we've had time to cool off:


Week 5 Games

Dardanelle @ Waldron
Mtn. Home v Ozark (game @ Hendrix)
Pottsville @ Mena

No word on Dover...
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: Gray lizard on September 27, 2018, 07:48:31 am
Game day Good luck to all.
What a mess the 4-4A Jr play is.  Only two conference games this week and one who knows if they are playing or not.  The other team has to travel half way to even get a game.
Anyone know if this will be the same for the Jr boys next year as well.
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: HSfan on September 27, 2018, 10:55:11 am
Subiaco should have more favorable numbers next year, with all the 7th graders they have and really only 4-5 9th graders I believe. I don't see why they wouldn't be playing the 4-4A schedule next year but who really knows. I know everyone has been missing the ultra-competitive game with them.
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: x14113 on September 27, 2018, 06:26:04 pm
Ozark 6
Mtn. Home 0
7G
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: x14113 on September 27, 2018, 08:12:40 pm
One step ahead...!

Ozark 38
Mtn. Home 16
JH
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: The Coach on September 27, 2018, 08:50:13 pm
Dardanelle 19
Waldron 0
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: x14113 on September 27, 2018, 10:55:36 pm
And to wrap the week:

Pottsville 26
Mena 20
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: x14113 on October 02, 2018, 10:49:49 pm
No ambiguity this week!


Week 6 Games

Mena @ Dover
Ozark @ Dardanelle
Waldron @ Pottsville
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: x14113 on October 04, 2018, 06:23:40 pm
Ozark 30
Dardanelle 6
7G
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: x14113 on October 04, 2018, 08:43:25 pm
Power > Speed...!

Ozark 28
Dardanelle 7
JH
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: x14113 on October 04, 2018, 09:20:32 pm
Straight from the Bulldog cheer squad:

Pottsville 22
Waldron 20
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: The Coach on October 04, 2018, 09:21:49 pm
Quote from: x14113 on October 04, 2018, 08:43:25 pm
Power > Speed...!

Ozark 28
Dardanelle 7
JH

Dardanelle had a few chances to score and get it closer but overall the better team won.  #22 and #7 are really good football players.
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: x14113 on October 04, 2018, 11:45:17 pm
Quote from: The Coach on October 04, 2018, 09:21:49 pm
Dardanelle had a few chances to score and get it closer but overall the better team won.  #22 and #7 are really good football players.

Dardy's QB isn't too bad himself. He certainly helped make the game feel closer than the final score.

Anyway, to wrap the night:

Mena 30
Dover 14
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: x14113 on October 09, 2018, 11:39:02 pm
Conference slates start to wrap up this week, but several can still play spoiler in the title race.


Week 7 Games
Dover @ Dardanelle
Mena @ FS Trinity (Game @ Buck Wells Stadium, next to Ramsey JH)
Pottsville @ Ozark

No word on Waldron yet...
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: Gray lizard on October 10, 2018, 02:28:04 pm
Quote from: x14113 on October 09, 2018, 11:39:02 pm
Conference slates start to wrap up this week, but several can still play spoiler in the title race.


Week 7 Games
Dover @ Dardanelle
Mena @ FS Trinity (Game @ Buck Wells Stadium, next to Ramsey JH)
Pottsville @ Ozark

No word on Waldron yet...

One more time and maybe I will get over it.  It just burns me up what Elkins and Subiaco have done to this district.  Is this going to be the same next year as well.
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: x14113 on October 10, 2018, 03:42:57 pm
I understand the frustration over it all (especially with Subi's antics on such short notice), but the simple fact that such moves are making waves is indicative of how easy most small-school conferences usually have it.

Simply put, the awful truth is that JH/9G programs don't have to group themselves like their varsity counterparts. Heck, Our conference dealt with this just 3 years ago, with 3 schools (including Subi, but for different reasons) not joining in for JH play.

And if nothing else, you should see what the 5A West's JH teams are doing.
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: Gray lizard on October 10, 2018, 03:50:18 pm
So the AAA has nothing to do with jr high ball. In that case I say the 4 should ban Subiaco for all other sports.
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: x14113 on October 10, 2018, 10:22:44 pm
There is precedent for that, too--Berryville led a campaign to remove Shiloh from the 4A-1 JH conference in time for the 2010 cycle.

Something tells me this was a factor in that conference's brief regression in the mid-10s, but I digress.

Between this and what the current 4A-1 may be doing, I'm really wanting to document all the JH conferences in the Natural State before next year.
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: Coach9586 on October 11, 2018, 08:02:35 am
Quote from: x14113 on October 04, 2018, 09:20:32 pm
Straight from the Bulldog cheer squad:

Pottsville 22
Waldron 20

Waldron played this game with an 8th grader who was the 3rd string qb.
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: x14113 on October 11, 2018, 06:13:33 pm
Ozark 44
Pottsville 8
7G
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: x14113 on October 11, 2018, 08:07:56 pm
Two more to go...!

Ozark 48
Pottsville 16
JH
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: The Coach on October 11, 2018, 08:58:41 pm
Dardanelle 42
Dover 12
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: x14113 on October 11, 2018, 09:56:37 pm
And to wrap the night:

FS Trinity 30
Mena 28
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: x14113 on October 15, 2018, 09:58:33 pm
Either the Hillbillies or the Lizards will clinch a share of the conference title this week.

The events on the Hillside will determine which.


Week 8 Games
Mena @ Waldron
Ozark @ Dover
Western Yell Co. @ Pottsville (Guess not...)

Anything for Dardy this week?
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: Gray lizard on October 16, 2018, 10:04:11 am
Pottsville will not play this week one game left with Dover next week.
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: x14113 on October 16, 2018, 11:00:06 am
So the WYC game listed by both schools' websites is a no-go? Very well.
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: The Coach on October 16, 2018, 11:30:10 am
Dardanelle wasn't able to fill the spot left by Subiaco so they have no game this wk. They are At trinity next wk and Charleston at home the following Tuesday.

Congrats to Ozark on winning the Conf Title cause they will kill Dover.
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: Gray lizard on October 16, 2018, 11:43:27 am
Quote from: x14113 on October 16, 2018, 11:00:06 am
So the WYC game listed by both schools' websites is a no-go? Very well.
Word I got was they fell below enough players to field a team.
You would think maybe they could get Dardanelle and Pottsville together for half a and half b game or something.
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: Big Red Fan on October 17, 2018, 12:48:41 pm
Quote from: x14113 on October 10, 2018, 03:42:57 pm
I understand the frustration over it all (especially with Subi's antics on such short notice), but the simple fact that such moves are making waves is indicative of how easy most small-school conferences usually have it.

Simply put, the awful truth is that JH/9G programs don't have to group themselves like their varsity counterparts. Heck, Our conference dealt with this just 3 years ago, with 3 schools (including Subi, but for different reasons) not joining in for JH play.

And if nothing else, you should see what the 5A West's JH teams are doing.

As an dad  in that conference I can say amen.  I hate it
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: Gray lizard on October 18, 2018, 11:41:41 am
Sitting at home tonight will not be much fun. Thought about going to Dover tonight but I saw enough of Ozark last week.
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: x14113 on October 18, 2018, 06:22:59 pm
Ozark 38
Dover 14
7G
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: x14113 on October 18, 2018, 08:17:39 pm
Getting the lion's share in sloppy fashion...

Ozark 42
Dover 0
JH
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: x14113 on October 18, 2018, 09:41:58 pm
Also:

Mena 22
Waldron 16

Bearcats finish the season at 3-5 (2-3).
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: x14113 on October 22, 2018, 11:37:49 pm
Conference play will wrap up this week, and for three of the five teams still playing, the season with it.

Will the Hillbillies claim an outright title for the first time in who-knows-when, or will the Bulldogs chuck a piece of it down the river?


Week 9 Games
Dardanelle @ FS Trinity (Game @ Buck Wells Stadium)
Dover @ Pottsville
Waldron @ Ozark
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: x14113 on October 25, 2018, 06:18:53 pm
Ozark 38
Waldron 6
7G
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: x14113 on October 25, 2018, 08:28:22 pm
No need to share this time...!

Ozark 38
Waldron 8
JH

Bulldogs finish at 2-5 (1-4)...or do they?
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: The Coach on October 25, 2018, 09:03:04 pm
Dardanelle 42
Trinity 20

Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: Gray lizard on October 26, 2018, 07:51:01 am
Pottsville     22
Dover           0
Season over for Pottsville (4-4)  Unless you count the two no shows as forfeits (6-4).
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: coachc9 on October 26, 2018, 09:01:44 am
Waldron will play Mansfield on Tuesday in their last game of the season.
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: x14113 on October 28, 2018, 11:37:43 pm
Wrapping the season with make-up games for a trio of teams.

Or at least they'll try, with showers looming once again.


Week 10 Games (All played on Tuesday 10/30)

Charleston @ Dardanelle
Mansfield @ Waldron
Ozark @ Booneville
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: x14113 on October 30, 2018, 07:22:54 pm
Ain't no weeks of improvement big enough...!

Ozark 38
Booneville 16

Hillbillies finish at 9-0 (5-0).
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: The Coach on October 30, 2018, 08:47:47 pm
Dardanelle 29
Charleston 14

Dardanelle finishes 8-1 (9-1 if you count Subi as a forfeit)
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: x14113 on October 30, 2018, 10:22:19 pm
And to wrap the season:

Waldron 23
Mansfield 16

Bulldogs finish at 3-5 (1-4).

Same time next year!
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: Gray lizard on October 31, 2018, 08:03:57 am
Congratulations to Ozark on conference title.
So is this the way they finished?

Ozark
Dardanelle
Pottsville
Mena
Waldron
Dover
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: x14113 on October 31, 2018, 05:59:37 pm
Yup. Third straight year of no ties.

Part of me feels for the Bulldogs with all the tough breaks they dealt with, losing games last year's bunch would've won. A key teaching moment, perhaps?

This conference ought to be more wide open next year. Hopefully, everyone will be able to better fill their schedules, too.
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: Gray lizard on October 31, 2018, 07:38:10 pm
I hope all teams find a replacement for Subiaco.
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: HSfan on November 01, 2018, 07:52:32 am
Quote from: Gray lizard on October 31, 2018, 07:38:10 pm
I hope all teams find a replacement for Subiaco.

I think everybody understands at this point that you are angry at Subiaco
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: Gray lizard on November 01, 2018, 08:12:03 am
Quote from: HSfan on November 01, 2018, 07:52:32 am
I think everybody understands at this point that you are angry at Subiaco
I just feel very strongly they should have a consequence for what they did to the other 4A-4 teams. It opened my eyes.  Subiaco is not a good school to have in our district.  They bring several problems to a conference.  Not having a girls program.
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: HSfan on November 01, 2018, 09:20:45 am
I hear you on that, and I can understand your frustration. GL, I've always respected your opinion and your conduct on the board. I believe we've even had a good back and forth before during baseball season. My biggest complaint was your comment earlier in the year that you hope Subi does not score a point all year. Be mad at Subi, be mad at the coaches, be mad at the AAA/4A-4 conference. I had always felt that comment was unnecessary and in bad taste because that is directed towards the kids; junior high kids at that.

Maybe I took that the wrong way, but that was how it was perceived. I am sorry you missed an opportunity to watch your kid play.

There is nothing I can say about not having a girls sport, but I don't know how that affects anything other than there being one less team in the conference. The conferences have been roughly the same for how long and it doesn't seem to cause major issues. Unless I am wrong and ignorant to that situation.

Hopefully Subi can get their numbers back up. Or call the AAA and start a petition to move Subi to 2A where they probably belong anyway.

Gray Lizard, I apologize for the rambling mess this was. Enjoy your (rainy) day!
Title: Re: 4A-4 2018
Post by: Sigmund Sauer on November 01, 2018, 03:29:07 pm
Careful, they keep all the salve over on the varsity groups. I don't think they'll lend any to the Jr. High ranks. You never know when a certain topic will come up and they'll run short.