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Clinton @ Junction City

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CoolBreeze

Quote from: cuz on November 20, 2017, 07:52:59 am
In High School Football a penalty could be called every play. JC's problem seems that they receive about 95 percent of them. If your going to call them, call them on both teams. It won't be that one sided. Now JC does have a tendency to get some very stupid PF's but the coaches have been addressing that problem so maybe that won't be a issue. If the games called right JC will walk away with this one.....
Give us a break. You and others spent several days crying about the officials on the JC/Harding thread and you can't even let it it go on a thread that is supposed to be about the upcoming Clinton/JC game. It's over. You won. Let's talk about this Friday's game.

thabeast428

Everyone wants to ignore the fact that some officials are terrible but there is good ones. Point is someone needs to do something about the bad ones. Also if u dont wanna read about it then don't get on here. Simple as that

dragondad

Quote from: CoolBreeze on November 20, 2017, 10:55:15 am
Give us a break. You and others spent several days crying about the officials on the JC/Harding thread and you can't even let it it go on a thread that is supposed to be about the upcoming Clinton/JC game. It's over. You won. Let's talk about this Friday's game.

So change the conversation,  you keep replying to posts about the HA game, so you're just as guilty.  If you haven't noticed, nearly every game thread from last week is still active and spilled over into this week's threads.

cuz

November 20, 2017, 11:26:16 am #53 Last Edit: November 20, 2017, 11:36:48 am by cuz
Quote from: CoolBreeze on November 20, 2017, 10:55:15 am
Give us a break. You and others spent several days crying about the officials on the JC/Harding thread and you can't even let it it go on a thread that is supposed to be about the upcoming Clinton/JC game. It's over. You won. Let's talk about this Friday's game.
You need to learn to read. I'm referring to games in general and I am talking about the
Clinton game. You don't learn much do you. Pay attention, in any game there's no two teams that play so undispline ball to warrant getting 75 percent or more of the penalties. Let them play. If you watch you can see a holding penalty almost every play on the OL. Any more lectures Sherlock????

CoolBreeze

Quote from: cuz on November 20, 2017, 11:26:16 am
You need to learn to read. I'm referring to games in general and I am talking about the
Clinton game. You don't learn much do you. Pay attention, in any game there's no two teams that play so undispline ball to warrant getting 75 percent or more of the penalties. Let them play. If you watch you can see a holding penalty almost every play on the OL. Any more lectures Sherlock????
I have seen numerous games in more than one sport where one team committed at least 75% of the fouls. Unfortunately, most of the time the penalties imposed did not match up. Apparently, the officials felt or feared that those who evaluated them would feel that it was unfair to have the number of fouls called so out of balance, so they made them more or less even. That is no more fair than calling more fouls on one team when it is unwarranted.

THA TRUTH

Quote from: cuz on November 20, 2017, 11:26:16 am
You need to learn to read. I'm referring to games in general and I am talking about the
Clinton game. You don't learn much do you. Pay attention, in any game there's no two teams that play so undispline ball to warrant getting 75 percent or more of the penalties. Let them play. If you watch you can see a holding penalty almost every play on the OL. Any more lectures Sherlock????





Can't help ignorance

panther07

Quote from: THA TRUTH on November 20, 2017, 11:40:18 am




Can't help ignorance

Sorry, guys.  Go thump Clinton.  Which I think you guys will. 

bleudog

November 20, 2017, 12:12:51 pm #57 Last Edit: November 20, 2017, 04:53:22 pm by bleudog
Anybody know the AAA policy on rotating officials?  Just wondering if Slim and his bunch are scheduled to make another run for the border this Friday.

Although, in the spirit of being fair and balanced, he was the official who made a defenitive call on the south endzone interception being a good JC catch.  The larger fellow on the sideline west sideline wasn't in the best position to make the call.   

Monsta

Quote from: bleudog on November 20, 2017, 12:12:51 pm
Anybody know the AAA policy on rotating officials?  Just wondering if Slim is scheduled to make another run for the border this Friday.

Although, in the spirit of being fair and balanced, he was the official who made a defenitive call on the south endzone interception being a good JC catch.  The larger fellow on the sideline west sideline wasn't in the best position to make the call.   
sorry Bleu but who cares we won ( Jc ) we playing Friday that's all that matter but I'm going to go out and say this I can bet that Clinton doesn't score over 24

dragondad

JC just needs to concentrate on scoring more and allowing less,  makes me no difference how many more or less....so long as they win.

Monsta

Quote from: dragondad on November 20, 2017, 04:32:28 pm
JC just needs to concentrate on scoring more and allowing less,  makes me no difference how many more or less....so long as they win.
+1

bleudog

November 20, 2017, 04:48:53 pm #61 Last Edit: November 20, 2017, 04:54:58 pm by bleudog
Quote from: Monsta on November 20, 2017, 04:10:32 pm
sorry Bleu but who cares we won ( Jc ) we playing Friday that's all that matter but I'm going to go out and say this I can bet that Clinton doesn't score over 24

Just curious if we were going to end up with the same officiating crew or if AAA would send a different one.  Last Friday was too close for comfort and there were way too many JC penalties.  Those penalties came VERY close to turning a JC win into a JC loss.  Plus, I don't bet on anything where the outcome is determined by the performance of 15-18 year old boys.

Monsta

Quote from: bleudog on November 20, 2017, 04:48:53 pm
Just curious if we were going to end up with the same officiating crew or if AAA would send a different one.  Last Friday was too close for comfort and could have just as easily been a JC loss.  Plus, I don't bet on anything where the outcome is determined by the performance of 15-18 year old boys.
I don't think AAA will send the same crew and what's wrong with a wager!?

bleudog

November 20, 2017, 05:06:17 pm #63 Last Edit: November 20, 2017, 05:08:30 pm by bleudog
Quote from: Monsta on November 20, 2017, 04:53:08 pm
I don't think AAA will send the same crew and what's wrong with a wager!?

I wouldn't think so either.  I just put it out there in case someone knew for sure.

Nothing wrong with a wager, but, IMHO, betting on kids, especially in the playoffs, can come with a little more risk than normal.   JC was a 10-20, depending on who you looked at, point favorite last Friday and it took some last minute heroics to get out with a one point win.  I'd just as soon the Dragons blow out Clinton, but one never knows until the game is played.

cuz

November 20, 2017, 08:34:11 pm #64 Last Edit: November 20, 2017, 08:36:05 pm by cuz
 
Clinton vs Heber Springs   W, 28 - 17
Clinton vs Berryville   W, 34 - 0
Clinton vs Central Arkansas Christian   W, 35 - 0
Clinton vs Greenland   W, 31 - 6
Clinton vs Green Forest   W, 35 - 7
Clinton vs Melbourne   W, 39 - 12
Clinton  vs Elkins   W, 49 - 28
Clinton vs Marshall   W, 60 - 8
Clinton vs Yellville-Summit   W, 42 - 6
Clinton vs Mountain ViewThere are 1 Overtime Game(s) between Clinton and Mountain View   W, 42 - 22
Clinton vs Fouke   W, 55 - 20
Clinton vs Haskell Harmony Grove   W, 48 - 42
Clinton vs Junction City   
Looking at these scores I don't see where Clinton has been challenged much the whole season. It also doesn't look like they played but one or two good teams. I'm not that familiar with the teams so if I'm wrong enlighten me.....

panther07

Quote from: cuz on November 20, 2017, 08:34:11 pm

Clinton vs Heber Springs   W, 28 - 17
Clinton vs Berryville   W, 34 - 0
Clinton vs Central Arkansas Christian   W, 35 - 0
Clinton vs Greenland   W, 31 - 6
Clinton vs Green Forest   W, 35 - 7
Clinton vs Melbourne   W, 39 - 12
Clinton  vs Elkins   W, 49 - 28
Clinton vs Marshall   W, 60 - 8
Clinton vs Yellville-Summit   W, 42 - 6
Clinton vs Mountain ViewThere are 1 Overtime Game(s) between Clinton and Mountain View   W, 42 - 22
Clinton vs Fouke   W, 55 - 20
Clinton vs Haskell Harmony Grove   W, 48 - 42
Clinton vs Junction City   
Looking at these scores I don't see where Clinton has been challenged much the whole season. It also doesn't look like they played but one or two good teams. I'm not that familiar with the teams so if I'm wrong enlighten me.....

Heber Springs has a pretty good football team.  They beat a healthy HA team.  Did a great job of playing keep away from HA and really limited our possessions.  Our 4 10th grade DL played like 4 10th grade DL.  That win over Heber is the only good team they played.

dragondad

Clinton Stats - Per Maxpreps

Games Played12

Offense - Passing Totals
Completions - 55
Passing Att - 92
Passing Yards - 880
Completion Percentage 59.8%
Yards Per Completion - 16.0
Passing Yards Per Game - 73.3
Passing TDs - 10
Passing Int - 3
Passing Long - 79
QB Rating  - 114.4

Offense - Rushing Totals
Carries - 500
Rushing Yards - 3560
Yards Per Carry - 7.1
Rushing Yards Per Game - 296.7
Rushing Long - 86
Rushing TDs - 56

Offense - Receiving Totals
Receptions - 55
Receiving Yards - 880
Yards Per Catch - 16.0
Receiving Yards Per Game - 73.3
Receiving Long - 79
Receiving TDs - 10

Offense - Off. Fum and Pnt Blk Totals
Offensive Fumbles - 22
Offensive Fumbles Lost - 7

Offense - All Purpose Yards
TotalsRushing Yards - 3560
Receiving Yards - 880
Kickoff Return Yards - 326
Punt Return Yards - 280
Interceptions Yards - 423
All Purpose Yards - 5469
All Purpose Yards Per Game - 455.8

Offense - Total Yards
TotalsPassing Yards - 880
Rushing Yards - 3560
Receiving Yards - 880
Total Yards - 4440
Total Yards Per Game - 370.0

Defense - Tackles Totals
Solo Tackle - 339
Assists - 304
Total Tackles - 643
Tackles Per Game - 53.6
Tackles For Loss - 68.0

Defense - Sacks Totals
Sacks - 13.5
Sacks Yards Lost - 91
Sacks Per Game - 1.1

Defense - Interceptions Totals
Interceptions - 22
Interceptions Yards - 423
Yards Per INT - 19.2
Interceptions Per Game - 1.8
Passes Defensed - 36

Defense - Fumbles and Blocks Totals
Fumble Recoveries - 11
Fumble Recovery Yards - 134
Caused Fumbles - 9
Blocked Punts - 1

Special Teams - Kickoffs Totals
Kickoffs - 82
Kickoff Yards - 2381
Kickoff Average - 29.0
Kickoff Long - 48
Kickoff Touchbacks - 0

Special Teams - Punts Totals
Punts - 20
Punt Yards - 666
Punt Average - 33.3
Punt Long - 57
Punt Inside - 202

Special Teams - Kickoff Returns Totals
Kickoff Returns - 29
Kickoff Return Yards - 326
Kickoff Return Yards Avg - 11.2
Kickoff Return Long - 75

Special Teams - Punt Returns Totals
Punt Returns - 14
Punt Return Yards - 280
Punt Return Yards Avg - 20.0
Punt Return Long - 70
Punt Return Fair Catches - 1
Total Return Yards - 606

Scoring - Points Totals
Total TDs - 70
Total TD Points - 420
Total Conversion Points - 66
Total Kicking Points - 34
Total Points - 486
Points Per Game - 40.5

Scoring - PATs and Field Goals Totals
PAT Kicking Made - 34
PAT Kicking Att - 45
PAT Kicking Percentage - 80%
Total Kicking Points - 34
Total Kicking Points Per Game - 2.8

Scoring - Touchdowns
Totals Rushing TDs - 56
Receiving TDs - 10
Total TDs - 70

Scoring - Conversions Totals
PAT Rushing - 13
PAT Receiving - 3
PAT Conversions - 16

cuz

Quote from: panther07 on November 20, 2017, 08:39:38 pm
Heber Springs has a pretty good football team.  They beat a healthy HA team.  Did a great job of playing keep away from HA and really limited our possessions.  Our 4 10th grade DL played like 4 10th grade DL.  That win over Heber is the only good team they played.
Way I read HA they didn't get healthy till mid Oct. but Heber did beat them. Clinton did beat Heber so Clinton might need looking at a little harder.....

dragondad

Junction City Stats - Per MaxPreps

Games Played 11

Offense - Passing Totals
Completions - 72
Passing Att - 139
Passing Yards - 1254
Completion Percentage - 51.8%
Yards Per Completion - 17.4
Passing Yards Per Game - 114.0
Passing TDs - 15
Passing Int - 5
Passing Long - 79
QB Rating - 103.8

Offense - Rushing Totals
Carries - 500
Rushing Yards - 3837
Yards Per Carry - 7.7
Rushing Yards Per Game - 348.8
Rushing Long - 78
Rushing TDs - 53

Offense - Receiving Totals
Receptions - 72
Receiving Yards - 1227
Yards Per Catch - 17.0
Receiving Yards Per Game - 111.5
Receiving Long - 30
Receiving TDs - 15

Offense - Off. Fum and Pnt Blk Totals
Offensive Fumbles - 20
Offensive Fumbles Lost - 12

Offense - All Purpose Yards Totals
Rushing Yards - 3837
Receiving Yards - 1227
Kickoff Return Yards - 300
Punt Return Yards - 441
All Purpose Yards - 5120
All Purpose Yards Per Game - 465.5

Offense - Total Yards Totals
Passing Yards - 1254
Rushing Yards - 3837
Receiving Yards - 1227
Total Yards - 5091
Total Yards Per Game - 462.8

Defense - Tackles Totals
Solo Tackle - 276
Assists - 295
Total Tackles - 571
Tackles Per Game - 51.9
Tackles For Loss - 81.5

Defense - Sacks Totals
Sacks - 24.0
Sacks Yards Lost - 142
Sacks Per Game - 2.2

Defense - Interceptions Totals
Interceptions - 15
Interceptions Per Game - 1.4
Passes Defensed - 16

Defense - Fumbles and Blocks Totals
Fumble Recoveries - 20
Caused Fumbles - 7
Blocked Punts - 1

Special Teams - Kickoffs Totals
Kickoffs - 76
Kickoff Yards - 2497
Kickoff Average - 32.9
Kickoff Touchbacks - 1

Special Teams - Punts Totals
Punts - 8
Punt Yards - 303
Punt Average - 37.9
Punt Inside - 201

Special Teams - Kickoff Returns Totals
Kickoff Returns - 26
Kickoff Return Yards - 300
Kickoff Return Yards Avg - 11.5

Special Teams - Punt Returns Totals
Punt Returns - 32
Punt Return Yards - 441
Punt Return Yards Avg - 13.8
Total Return Yards - 56

Scoring - PointsTotals
Total TDs - 73
Total TD Points - 438
Total Conversion Points - 70
Total Kicking Points - 7
Total Points - 527
Points Per Game - 47.9

Scoring - PATs and Field Goals Totals
PAT Kicking Made - 4
PAT Kicking Att - 6
PAT Kicking Percentage - 70%
FG Made - 1
Total Kicking Points - 7
Total Kicking Points Per Game - .63

Scoring - TouchdownsTotals
Rushing TDs - 53
Receiving TDs - 15
Int's Returned for Touchdown - 1
Punts Returned for Touchdown - 1
Total TDs - 73

Scoring - Conversions Totals PAT Rushing - 33
PAT Receiving - 2
PAT Conversions - 35

dragondad

Clinton Offense Allowed Avg - 291yds/Game (7 games reported)
Clinton Pts Allowed Avg/Game - 14 (12 Games)

Junction City Offense Allowed Avg - 211yds/Game (11 games reported)
Junction City Pts Allowed Avg/Game - 16.9 (11 Games)

cuz

Quote from: dragondad on November 20, 2017, 10:38:12 pm
Clinton Offense Allowed Avg - 291yds/Game (7 games reported)
Clinton Pts Allowed Avg/Game - 14 (12 Games)

Junction City Offense Allowed Avg - 211yds/Game (11 games reported)
Junction City Pts Allowed Avg/Game - 16.9 (11 Games)
Stats are matching up pretty good....

dragondad

November 21, 2017, 07:15:23 am #71 Last Edit: November 21, 2017, 07:35:01 am by dragondad
Clinton (12-0)  2017 Season Opponents

Record: 56 - 75
Avg Games Played: 11
Avg Record: 5 - 6

Junction City (11-0) 2017 Season Opponents

Record: 73 - 59
Avg Games Played: 12
Avg Record:  7 - 5

bleudog

November 21, 2017, 07:21:34 am #72 Last Edit: November 21, 2017, 07:27:07 am by bleudog
EDNT pre-game article (Hooties style):  CLICK HERE

bleudog

November 21, 2017, 07:24:24 am #73 Last Edit: November 21, 2017, 07:30:41 am by bleudog
Ain't nothing like having to adjust the family Thanksgiving week plans for football practices.  8)

cuz

Quote from: bleudog on November 21, 2017, 07:24:24 am
Ain't nothing like having to adjust the family Thanksgiving week plans for football practices.  8)
Amen bleu....😉

BannerMountainMan

Quote from: cuz link=topic=154327.msg3555742#msg3555742  date=1511271750
Amen bleu....😉
I remember 3 years ago having to practice in the snow

bleudog

November 21, 2017, 09:13:04 am #76 Last Edit: November 21, 2017, 11:35:54 am by bleudog
Quote from: BannerMountainMan on November 21, 2017, 08:42:10 am
I remember 3 years ago having to practice in the snow

It can get cold in WMS in December too.   ;)




For the Dragon folks, Haynesville is still in the hunt too.  They're heading into the quarterfinals with a rematch of the 2015 state championship game against Kentwood.  Not playing this one in the 'dome though.

http://www.shreveporttimes.com/videos/sports/high-school/football/2017/11/18/haynesville-coach-david-franklin-looks-ahead-familiar-kangaroos/107809902/

AmericanMan30

No question Clinton wins, they can't help they were put in a "weak" conference. Thier conference did have 3 teams in the second round.... But they have ran all over whoever they played, and will run it down JC's throat, they have to many ways to move the ball downfield for anyone in 3a to stop. They lost their leading rusher in the last regular season game of the year and still have been able to run it anywhere they wanted. The question isn't if they will score, because they will, the question is if their defense shows up. Clinton 48-35. 

CoolBreeze

Quote from: cuz on November 20, 2017, 09:06:47 pm
Way I read HA they didn't get healthy till mid Oct. but Heber did beat them. Clinton did beat Heber so Clinton might need looking at a little harder.....
The injuries didn't hit HA until early in the Bald Knob game the next week.

THA TRUTH

Quote from: AmericanMan30 on November 21, 2017, 11:02:39 am
No question Clinton wins, they can't help they were put in a "weak" conference. Thier conference did have 3 teams in the second round.... But they have ran all over whoever they played, and will run it down JC's throat, they have to many ways to move the ball downfield for anyone in 3a to stop. They lost their leading rusher in the last regular season game of the year and still have been able to run it anywhere they wanted. The question isn't if they will score, because they will, the question is if their defense shows up. Clinton 48-35.





LOL!!!!!!

Lineman

Quote from: bleudog on November 21, 2017, 07:24:24 am
Ain't nothing like having to adjust the family Thanksgiving week plans for football practices.  8)
We call it tradition in Chuck

CoolBreeze

Quote from: Lineman on November 21, 2017, 11:37:45 am
We call it tradition in Chuck
I thought it was just business as usual.

BannerMountainMan

Quote from: AmericanMan30 on November 21, 2017, 11:02:39 am
No question Clinton wins, they can't help they were put in a "weak" conference. Thier conference did have 3 teams in the second round.... But they have ran all over whoever they played, and will run it down JC's throat, they have to many ways to move the ball downfield for anyone in 3a to stop. They lost their leading rusher in the last regular season game of the year and still have been able to run it anywhere they wanted. The question isn't if they will score, because they will, the question is if their defense shows up. Clinton 48-35.
for sure a JC poster.

Lineman


bleudog

November 21, 2017, 11:51:12 am #84 Last Edit: November 21, 2017, 03:04:43 pm by bleudog
 
Quote from: CoolBreeze on November 21, 2017, 11:38:57 am
I thought it was just business as usual.

Does 15 turkey week games in the last 20 seasons qualify?

dragondad

November 21, 2017, 11:51:47 am #85 Last Edit: November 21, 2017, 02:17:11 pm by dragondad
Quote from: BannerMountainMan on November 21, 2017, 11:39:16 am
for sure a JC poster.

IF you'd look at her post history, you'd see that all four of her posts on FF have had something to do with Clinton or the 1-3A

She's NOT a JC poster.  LOL!!

dragondad

What's the talk in Clinton,  are you all bringing a large crowd?

thabeast428

Wow she must be on something lol

cuz

Quote from: CoolBreeze on November 21, 2017, 11:11:22 am
The injuries didn't hit HA until early in the Bald Knob game the next week.
If that's the case JC might ought to run to the swamps....

eldofan

How is seating in JC ? Never been to a Jc game in my 10 years here but plan on taking this one in Friday night.

cuz

Quote from: eldofan on November 21, 2017, 03:57:28 pm
How is seating in JC ? Never been to a Jc game in my 10 years here but plan on taking this one in Friday night.
Excellent, new bleachers about year old or two. Good parking, concession stand and facilities.... welcome...

dragondad

Quote from: eldofan on November 21, 2017, 03:57:28 pm
How is seating in JC ? Never been to a Jc game in my 10 years here but plan on taking this one in Friday night.

Id get there by 630 or before,  seating is good, visitors bleachers are new. 

eldofan


bleudog

November 21, 2017, 04:35:55 pm #93 Last Edit: November 21, 2017, 04:54:49 pm by bleudog
Quote from: eldofan on November 21, 2017, 04:08:44 pm
Thanks

If you're heading north when the game is over, there is a little dirt road that goes around the back of the field by the fieldhouses.  Take a left on the paved road and you'll end up back out on 167.  The paved road is narrow but you don't have to stay on it too long.  Saves waiting in line.

I'd agree with DD, the home bleachers are nice (metal but no open foot areas) but can fill up near game time.  IF they play a semi final game there, there will be folks laying blankets on the bleacher that afternoon to save seats.

Not sure how many Clintonians plan on coming down.  Junction has a lot of folks who choose to watch from the rail.


eldofan

So my best bet for a seat is to go to the visitors side ?

bleudog

November 21, 2017, 04:51:22 pm #95 Last Edit: November 21, 2017, 04:53:49 pm by bleudog
Quote from: eldofan on November 21, 2017, 04:42:34 pm
So my best bet for a seat is to go to the visitors side ?

You should be able to get a seat on the home side.  Just don't count on there being a seat there at or just after kickoff.  I just wanted to let you know that if the home side fills, there should be seats available on the visitor side.  The visitor side seats were replaced within the last two years and what were there wasn't anything to brag about.

And there is no spectator entrance on the visitor side.

eldofan

Quote from: bleudog on November 21, 2017, 04:51:22 pm
You should be able to get a seat on the home side.  Just don't count on there being a seat there at or just after kickoff.  I just wanted to let you know that if the home side fills, there should be seats available on the visitor side.  The visitor side seats were replaced within the last two years and what were there wasn't anything to brag about.

And there is no spectator entrance on the visitor side.
Thanks

BannerMountainMan

Sounds like Junction city lives and dies by football! Sounds like a great atmosphere

THA TRUTH


cuz

November 21, 2017, 06:28:51 pm #99 Last Edit: November 21, 2017, 06:31:40 pm by cuz
Quote from: BannerMountainMan on November 21, 2017, 06:09:46 pm
Sounds like Junction city lives and dies by football! Sounds like a great atmosphere
It use to be baseball but Football has kinda taken the forfront. JC is definitely sports oriented town. They've won the state championships in everything from Cheerleading to weightlifting. They're working on Golf on cross country no tennis team yet. About only thing more important here is God, Family and country. A lot of veterans live here with some boys serving our country right now. Dragondad has one in the Marines and one in the Army, prayers for both....

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