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Class 4A Bulletin Board Material / Re: Bauxite Miners
« Last post by Crossett Eagle on Today at 12:15:23 am »
A trip everyone should take you mean!
Bet its pretty nice down there ya mean!!
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3A Basketball / Re: Perryville vs. Pottsville
« Last post by Longfellow on Today at 12:05:47 am »
Perryville at Pottsville. Anybody heard the details of what really went down. Several people got chunked is my info. Higher ups too!
I heard the story from one of the officials. Sounded pretty comical
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2A Basketball / Re: 2A-4 West District (Boys and Girls) 2017-2018
« Last post by 4real on January 17, 2018, 11:00:36 pm »
Thatís a fact jack
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Killer Crossover / Re: Changes to the AAA
« Last post by 4real on January 17, 2018, 10:59:46 pm »
You're being silly with this quote. It would be quite the story to say "Hey moved here because your high school shot clock rules are better!"

If you can name a coach who uses a stall offense and wins 25 games a year, I'll be shocked. Not deliberate passing of the ball to find an open and good shot, but an offense who's main priority is to limit possessions of the other team (if a team is doing this, they aren't very good probably). That's why you probably haven't heard of a coach being fired under those circumstances. They don't exist.

You haven't asked me any questions lately...I just didn't want to dissect your points because you went back to the same talking points we've discussed earlier.

You have conveniently left out how basketball in Arkansas high schools would be hurt by a 45 second shot clock.

Support for the backcourt and closely guarded rule because it rewards good defense.

But no support for the shot clock that rewards teams with efficient offenses who know how to do the main objective of the game which is score more points than the other team?

Actually a 45 second shot clock rewards good defense! A team's goal should be to stop a team from scoring and not by swiping at the ball or hoping a team throws the ball away, but making that team take a bad shot after they've had time to take it. Let's give them ample time, but let's at least make them shoot it in a reasonable amount of time and keep a flow of a sport. You know...not a game of 3 man weave at the top of the key with no intent to score.

How can you say that a shot clock rewards a team that gives no effort on defense. If they give no effort, go shoot a layup! Your line of reasoning can't be followed.

It seems all your argument lays on the fact that coaches should be allowed to pick their strategy, including a stall offense.

But this offense has been lambasted in all levels of basketball. Change is needed eventually.

your quote about shot clock impact on defense is spot on. Itís way easier to convince kids to play hard on defense when they know that in a certain amount of time, they are on a last second defense scenario. The focus it demands on both sides brings a sense of urgency that is exciting.  Also, the last 90 seconds of a game can proved the opportunity to choose between fouls and trying to hold to just one shot, during a 1 possession game.  Fun stuff. But some out of towners donít get it. He might need some preparation H from getting sore
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Killer Crossover / Re: Changes to the AAA
« Last post by 4real on January 17, 2018, 10:54:41 pm »
Hey trackster... Yes in all the sports except football I want the 5 class system back. I think in non football sports the size difference gets negated some so the larger number of schools in a class wouldn't hurt the smaller enrollment teams in a classification. I liked the old 64 teams in 2A and 3A back in the day in basketball.
agreed
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SEC / Re: Arkansas Basketball 2017-2018
« Last post by bdubyab60 on January 17, 2018, 10:49:54 pm »
No one thinks we should be happy as an NIT team....My expectation going into this season was to get a 3, 4 or 5 seed in the NCAA tournament. We will be lucky to be one of the last 5 or 6 teams in at this point and that is if we start pulling wins out of thin air. I think we are all watching players who for some reason aren't playing at the same level as last year from a straight intensity stand point. You can see the lack of competitive nature on them and we are headed for the NIT at this rate. For some reason the RPI still loves us even as we continue to lose and so does Lunardi who barely ever misses more than 1 team the NCAA selects. He had us as a 7 seed even after the LSU loss and this Florida loss will probably only drop us to a 9 seed. I already can see it now that we end up with like an 8-10 SEC record and 13 losses overall after the SEC tournament and we still end up an 11 or 12 seed because of the high RPI rating. I absolutely do not want to see us make the NCAA tournament without a winning conference record. That is even more embarrassing because we will a joke even more if that happened.
I believe you are correct. This is what it isnít good to barely get in. Because this team should be a solid tourney team, talent is there bottom line. We barely get in it just gives ammunition to keep saying hey we made the tourney. Then this starts back where it was 7 years ago.

By the way another Arkansas kid torches us.
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1A Basketball / Re: 1a Region & State Tournament Hosts
« Last post by SackAttack on January 17, 2018, 10:48:37 pm »
Will they be using the Wonderview clock keeper?  If so, advantage Wonderview.
This is just one shining example of why they need to use as many of Morriltons people as they can. Ask any one in the area! And once and for all you dont have to take my word for it for I fear it will all bear out and fall on Morriltons broad shoulders to run successfully! In my 20-30 games attended there over the years seems there was always an issue of some sort-clock-book-concession stand-no tp in bathrooms ,fans getting tossed,blind and oblivious to everyone that seemed to be in authority. Really bad the last four-five years! But again maybe Morrilton will pull it off!! Hope they do its an easy drive from the lake!
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SEC / Re: Why do our best players leave the state?
« Last post by bdubyab60 on January 17, 2018, 10:41:35 pm »
Archie Goodwin left as well. While it may be easier to have a top 25 football program itís much easier to recruit and have a good basketball program. It only takes a couple good players to turn a program around.

We have had this discussion before. We are far enough along that we should be seeing a significant step from where we were. Is this program better than the pel and Heath Years. Iíd say yeah. MA runs a clean program as well. But Arkansas has been a basketball school as long as I can remember. We have been able to get program changing players from in and out of the state. MA has had one so far, Portis. Maybe Gafford develops in to one as well, we will see.

If this goes completely off the rails and we miss the tourney this year. MA seat should be getting warm. A decent recruiting class shouldnít be a reason to keep a coach. But it will keep MA his job this year.

I may have said this already but really think about this. Say we miss the tourney this year. Thatís 2 tourneys in 7 years. Both early exits. 0 Conference championships, 0 tournament titles. Yeah you have won some games. SEc was the weakest itís been in years when you took over. The same issues continue to pop up and keeping us from getting over the hump, road woes are back this year. Again will be super young again next year.

Take these results and put them on any other coach we have had not named MA, Sutton or Richardson and what would have happened.

Iím not even upset that we have lost a few games here. But itís very close to what it was in football. Sometimes itís just what it looks like when you are doing it.
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Killer Crossover / Re: Changes to the AAA
« Last post by Almatrackster on January 17, 2018, 10:39:53 pm »
I appreciate how you're not willing to answer my questions but more than happy to ask me more.   :)

I fully support the backcourt rule and the closely guarded rule.  Why?  Because they are only effective if a team presses, traps, plays good man, etc.  A team must defend for those rules to impact the game.  They are rules that reward good defense.

Hometown fans support coaches and programs that win.  Most couldn't care less what offense or tempo a coach uses.  Never heard of a coach that won 25 games being fired because he ran a deliberate offense, but I've heard of plenty that won 4 games using a run and gun offense being kicked to the curb.

I don't care that other states have implemented a shot clock. Move to one of them if it means that  much to you. 

A shot clock is an external factor that forces a team to shoot or give the ball back with no effort from the defense.  Teams that want an uptempo game need to earn it.

You can find current coaches that prefer to play uptempo that will tell you they don't want a shot clock.

You're being silly with this quote. It would be quite the story to say "Hey moved here because your high school shot clock rules are better!"

If you can name a coach who uses a stall offense and wins 25 games a year, I'll be shocked. Not deliberate passing of the ball to find an open and good shot, but an offense who's main priority is to limit possessions of the other team (if a team is doing this, they aren't very good probably). That's why you probably haven't heard of a coach being fired under those circumstances. They don't exist.

You haven't asked me any questions lately...I just didn't want to dissect your points because you went back to the same talking points we've discussed earlier.

You have conveniently left out how basketball in Arkansas high schools would be hurt by a 45 second shot clock.

Support for the backcourt and closely guarded rule because it rewards good defense.

But no support for the shot clock that rewards teams with efficient offenses who know how to do the main objective of the game which is score more points than the other team?

Actually a 45 second shot clock rewards good defense! A team's goal should be to stop a team from scoring and not by swiping at the ball or hoping a team throws the ball away, but making that team take a bad shot after they've had time to take it. Let's give them ample time, but let's at least make them shoot it in a reasonable amount of time and keep a flow of a sport. You know...not a game of 3 man weave at the top of the key with no intent to score.

How can you say that a shot clock rewards a team that gives no effort on defense. If they give no effort, go shoot a layup! Your line of reasoning can't be followed.

It seems all your argument lays on the fact that coaches should be allowed to pick their strategy, including a stall offense.

But this offense has been lambasted in all levels of basketball. Change is needed eventually.
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3A Basketball / Perryville vs. Pottsville
« Last post by SackAttack on January 17, 2018, 10:33:19 pm »
Perryville at Pottsville. Anybody heard the details of what really went down. Several people got chunked is my info. Higher ups too!
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