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Arkadelphia @ Pea Ridge - SEMIFINALS

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Rugman15


SUGARTOWN


beach bum

Stuttgart would beat Pea Ridge if they played this Friday.... It's easy to go deep in the playoffs when you draw Waldron and Hamburg the first two games.

Nacho

For someone who hasn't seen PR play and very few of their opponents what kind of match up is this? I hear that Winn is a special player...pretty balanced offense but it seems like Arkadelphia has rolled over a lot of teams...

Rugman15

Quote from: beach bum on November 26, 2017, 03:08:42 pm
Stuttgart would beat Pea Ridge if they played this Friday.... It's easy to go deep in the playoffs when you draw Waldron and Hamburg the first two games.

Obviously didn't have a problem beating your tigers who are gone 😄 also don't forget how we won against Booneville for the 3rd time in the past 2 years :)!  Keep hating bum!!

Quote from: Nacho on November 26, 2017, 03:27:46 pm
For someone who hasn't seen PR play and very few of their opponents what kind of match up is this? I hear that Winn is a special player...pretty balanced offense but it seems like Arkadelphia has rolled over a lot of teams...

It's going to be interesting no doubt because Winn has torn through just about anyone but arky is for real!  It will be a fun matchup!!

prHOG13

Quote from: Nacho on November 26, 2017, 03:27:46 pm
For someone who hasn't seen PR play and very few of their opponents what kind of match up is this? I hear that Winn is a special player...pretty balanced offense but it seems like Arkadelphia has rolled over a lot of teams...
Winn is a very good RB that has 2170 rushing yards and 31 TD's on the season.

Holtgrewe is a very good route runner and playmaker at WR with over 1100 yards.

Witcher is a long and athletic WR that is more of a possession guy, but can beat you deep too.

Sainsbury is a SR QB pocket passer with over 30 starts in his career and has a strong arm.

Make no mistake, it'll take a perfect game for PR to win this one. They are capable though. They still haven't played to their potential this season but are talented enough to keep winning. Can't get by on that any longer. 

arklasports57

Was checking 4A standing page and noticed Arkadelphia suddenly jumped up to 157 points against. I don't think that is  correct?  Last I checked was 98 and the last 2 games were low scores by the opponent.

beach bum

Don't fret Badger fans.... As someone who has seen this Blackhawk team. You should take this by 4 or 5 touchdowns.

Nacho

Quote from: arklasports57 on November 26, 2017, 07:56:44 pm
Was checking 4A standing page and noticed Arkadelphia suddenly jumped up to 157 points against. I don't think that is  correct?  Last I checked was 98 and the last 2 games were low scores by the opponent.

It also said we were 0-9 the other day. I'm not sure what's going on there.

Nacho

It's hard to compare stats (i think) because the starters haven't played 6 or 7 halves due to either shut outs or mercy ruled games and then didn't play the HWH game bc of the wreck...i just wonder what some of these kids would look like on paper if they had. But time will tell, looking forward and hoping for a livestream from PR.

Rugman15

Quote from: beach bum on November 26, 2017, 08:06:45 pm
Don't fret Badger fans.... As someone who has seen this Blackhawk team. You should take this by 4 or 5 touchdowns.

Obviously you didn't go to your own teams game because last I checked we took care of you 26-21...😂🤡

prHOG13

Quote from: beach bum on November 26, 2017, 08:06:45 pm
Don't fret Badger fans.... As someone who has seen this Blackhawk team. You should take this by 4 or 5 touchdowns.
The beach bum kiss of death

Tough luck, badgers

hogfan10

Quote from: arklasports57 on November 26, 2017, 07:56:44 pm
Was checking 4A standing page and noticed Arkadelphia suddenly jumped up to 157 points against. I don't think that is  correct?  Last I checked was 98 and the last 2 games were low scores by the opponent.

I think it should be 105 for points against (8.75 per game, not including the forfeit).

Lions84


Rugman15

Quote from: prHOG13 on November 26, 2017, 09:21:21 pm
The beach bum kiss of death

Tough luck, badgers

Yep, that's always a bad sign for anyone bum picks. 

:(

Youngsta71701


Rugman15


Mr.Fridaynight11

Quote from: Rugman15 on November 26, 2017, 03:41:04 pm
Obviously didn't have a problem beating your tigers who are gone 😄 also don't forget how we won against Booneville for the 3rd time in the past 2 years :)!  Keep hating bum!!

It's going to be interesting no doubt because Winn has torn through just about anyone but arky is for real!  It will be a fun matchup!!
you beat a 3A team three times....Good for you

Rugman15

Quote from: Mr.Fridaynight11 on November 28, 2017, 10:24:39 am
you beat a 3A team three times....Good for you

You mean a 4A team right?  Pretty sure they are not in 3A yet.  And yeah the only team who could do it this year...Twice 🤪

polksalet

I'll go Arky by 17. My highest worry is the fans being too load and the Pr folks turning them into the AAA.

The Odds Maker

Quote from: Rugman15 on November 28, 2017, 11:48:01 am
You mean a 4A team right?  Pretty sure they are not in 3A yet.  And yeah the only team who could do it this year...Twice 🤪
That still leaves you with 0 state titles.

Rugman15

Quote from: The Odds Maker on November 29, 2017, 03:21:22 am
That still leaves you with 0 state titles.

Do you hear that?  Sounds like a hater 😂

Ole Legend

Quote from: polksalet on November 28, 2017, 09:52:33 pm
I'll go Arky by 17. My highest worry is the fans being too load and the Pr folks turning them into the AAA.

Too load???? You mean too loud?

RZback

Interesting game.  Key for PR is to get out to a good start on offense.  They cannot waste possessions by making unforced errors.  PR can win if they play focused for 4 quarters. 
Arkadelphia is good no doubt, full of atletes. I think PR defense can keep them in the game if the PR offense is able to eliminate errors that have hurt them early in other games.

youhavenoidea

Tough game for Arkadelphia because of the drive.  Wonder why the AAA still allows this insane travel for playoff games?  I understand the first round getting a home game for the higher seed, but seems almost like punishment to make it to the semifinal and have a 4+hr drive.  Probably give PR an advantage for sure, hope Badgers can get going early.

BP74

Getting over the long bus ride is important. Key for Arkadelphia is playing disciplined defense. Interested to see what PR opens up with on offense. Run right at the D playing it a little safe and avoiding some turnovers I keep reading about, or try to loosen D up with screen passes. Then start taking shots down the field. Early turnovers along with getting PR MLB blocked consistently and game could get away early. That MLB for PR really has a nose for the football, makes alot of tackles!

Rugman15

If Pea Ridge wins the field position battle and the turnover battle they can win.  I think PR will play it safe this game and try to let the defense win this one.  Arky is not a elite passing team so that plays to PR, but it's all about staying focused.  If PR gives Arky short fields and turns it over, this game will get out of hand. 

I think if it's close, Pea Ridge wins.  Any blowout will be an Arky win.  I think it will be close and PR will find a way to get it with two touchdowns.

youhavenoidea

I think you're underestimating the Badger defense, they are are pretty solid this year.

Rugman15

Quote from: youhavenoidea on November 29, 2017, 11:17:44 am
I think you're underestimating the Badger defense, they are are pretty solid this year.

If you read what I just said, Pea Ridge is going to have to let the defense win this one.  Arky is an elite defensive team, that leans on the defense to win them games.  PR is going to have to win field position and let their defense win this one.  The offense needs to just keep battling because it's going to be physical...

Nacho

I think having made this same trip last year and then PG the year before they've got it figured out on how to travel and be okay. Well, let's hope anyway.

Rugman15

Quote from: Nacho on November 29, 2017, 11:21:34 am
I think having made this same trip last year and then PG the year before they've got it figured out on how to travel and be okay. Well, let's hope anyway.

This is an intangible that will be VERY interesting come Friday.  Will Arky come out slow?  It will be interesting to say the least...

SUGARTOWN

Quote from: Rugman15 on November 29, 2017, 11:20:57 am
Arky is an elite defensive team, that leans on the defense to win them games.

They average 45 points a game, they don't just rely on the defense to win every game for them, their offense is solid.

BP74

Quote from: SUGARTOWN on November 29, 2017, 11:25:47 am
They average 45 points a game, they don't just rely on the defense to win every game for them, their offense is solid.

Offense is solid but has had some slow starts and bad outings that the D bailed them out on. Offense looked better last week than it has all year. Hope the trend continues. Offense and defense has to be solid the rest of the way to stay on W side of box score.

RZback

Like many games turnovers and the ability to capitalize off them may make the difference.  Just loosing a couple of possessions could be a major problem for either team.   
Both are quality teams and whichever plays best will win.

hogfan10

Quote from: youhavenoidea on November 29, 2017, 10:57:18 am
Tough game for Arkadelphia because of the drive.  Wonder why the AAA still allows this insane travel for playoff games?  I understand the first round getting a home game for the higher seed, but seems almost like punishment to make it to the semifinal and have a 4+hr drive.  Probably give PR an advantage for sure, hope Badgers can get going early.

Don't know why they're can't be neutral site games. In '87 we played Van Buren in Morrilton, due to VB refusing to come to Arkadelphia.

SUGARTOWN

November 29, 2017, 11:43:16 am #85 Last Edit: November 29, 2017, 11:45:20 am by SUGARTOWN
Quote from: hogfan10 on November 29, 2017, 11:40:25 am
Don't know why they're can't be neutral site games. In '87 we played Van Buren in Morrilton, due to VB refusing to come to Arkadelphia.

Probably because no one wants to voluntarily give up a home game?

Heck, back in the day state championship games were played at home fields. Not WMS.

hogfan10

Quote from: BP74 on November 29, 2017, 11:29:05 am
Offense is solid but has had some slow starts and bad outings that the D bailed them out on. Offense looked better last week than it has all year. Hope the trend continues. Offense and defense has to be solid the rest of the way to stay on W side of box score.

The offense wears it's opponents down, and when that happens the points come fast.
Mercy Rule was in play at the start of the second half for 5 of the 12 games played.

dawg_days


Rugman15

Quote from: hogfan10 on November 29, 2017, 11:47:28 am
The offense wears it's opponents down, and when that happens the points come fast.
Mercy Rule was in play at the start of the second half for 5 of the 12 games played.

Which happens as a result of the defense and short fields from turnovers.  That's why Pea Ridge needs to play ball control this game to have a chance.

hogfan10

Quote from: Rugman15 on November 29, 2017, 12:40:11 pm
Which happens as a result of the defense and short fields from turnovers.  That's why Pea Ridge needs to play ball control this game to have a chance.

Not saying PR can't do it, but they'd be the first team since Robinson to be able to manage a ball control offense.
PR's best bet (based on Arkadelphia's previous 12 games), is to strike quick in the possession by confusion or defensive breakdown. Sustaining long ball control
drives has not been an option for most teams against Arkadelphia's defense.

Rugman15

Quote from: hogfan10 on November 29, 2017, 01:15:37 pm
Not saying PR can't do it, but they'd be the first team since Robinson to be able to manage a ball control offense.
PR's best bet (based on Arkadelphia's previous 12 games), is to strike quick in the possession by confusion or defensive breakdown. Sustaining long ball control
drives has not been an option for most teams against Arkadelphia's defense.

Pea Ridge is not like the past few Arky opponents though.  We will see though PR has seemed to always find a way but this will be by far the toughest test. 

hogfan10

Quote from: Rugman15 on November 29, 2017, 01:29:23 pm
Pea Ridge is not like the past few Arky opponents though.  We will see though PR has seemed to always find a way but this will be by far the toughest test.

I don't disagree with anything you said.

beach bum

Quote from: Rugman15 on November 29, 2017, 01:29:23 pm
Pea Ridge is not like the past few Arky opponents though.  We will see though PR has seemed to always find a way but this will be by far the toughest test.

Ashdown is better than Pea Ridge and the Badgers dismantled them....

Rugman15

Quote from: beach bum on November 29, 2017, 02:15:28 pm
Ashdown is better than Pea Ridge and the Badgers dismantled them....

Pea Ridge is better than Prairie Grove and we dominated you...

beach bum

November 29, 2017, 02:22:41 pm #94 Last Edit: November 29, 2017, 02:24:39 pm by beach bum
Quote from: Rugman15 on November 29, 2017, 02:15:59 pm
Pea Ridge is better than Prairie Grove and we dominated you...

I am not sure you were at the same game... PG lost by 5 and had the ball 25 yards from scoring with a little over a minute left and coughed it up. That would have won they game. I don't think anyone outside of you considers a 5 point win a dominating win. That's the difference I am not a homer like you Pea Ridge posters who apparently haven't realized the 1-4A never has a true state title contender outside of when Shiloh was old Shiloh. Our conference is always going to run into a buzzsaw from south Arkansas. Pea Ridge is the 4th best team out of the 4 remaining. It will show in 2 days.... Badgers by 28 ..... Congrats on beating the least dynamic PG offense they have had in over a half decade by 5 points. No one ever claimed PG was elite like you naïve Pea Ridge people think you are.

Rugman15

Quote from: beach bum on November 29, 2017, 02:22:41 pm
I am not sure you were at the same game... PG lost by 5 and had the ball 25 yards from scoring with a little over a minute left and coughed it up. That would have won they game. I don't think anyone outside of you considers a 5 point win a dominating win. That's the difference I am not a homer like you Pea Ridge posters who apparently haven't realized the 1-4A never has a true state title contender outside of when Shiloh was old Shiloh. Our conference is always going to run into a buzzsaw from south Arkansas. Pea Ridge is the 4th best team out of the 4 remaining. It will show in 2 days.... Badgers by 28

That's what you said last week to.  You already gave your famous "Post of Death" to Arky as well.  Bet you won't be here AGAIN if we win this one. 

Rugman15

Quote from: beach bum on November 29, 2017, 02:22:41 pm
I am not sure you were at the same game... PG lost by 5 and had the ball 25 yards from scoring with a little over a minute left and coughed it up. That would have won they game. I don't think anyone outside of you considers a 5 point win a dominating win. That's the difference I am not a homer like you Pea Ridge posters who apparently haven't realized the 1-4A never has a true state title contender outside of when Shiloh was old Shiloh. Our conference is always going to run into a buzzsaw from south Arkansas. Pea Ridge is the 4th best team out of the 4 remaining. It will show in 2 days.... Badgers by 28 ..... Congrats on beating the least dynamic PG offense they have had in over a half decade by 5 points. No one ever claimed PG was elite like you naïve Pea Ridge people think you are.

We all know you're just mad because little old Pea Ridge beat your Tigers.  Keep the hate coming bum...you might finally be right for the 1st time this year...you'll probably brag about it but hey, when I'm right 1 out of 100 times I would brag to. 

Nacho

Quote from: hogfan10 on November 29, 2017, 01:15:37 pm
Not saying PR can't do it, but they'd be the first team since Robinson to be able to manage a ball control offense.
PR's best bet (based on Arkadelphia's previous 12 games), is to strike quick in the possession by confusion or defensive breakdown. Sustaining long ball control
drives has not been an option for most teams against Arkadelphia's defense.

I'm thankful that this won't happen. It doesn't get brought into conversation much, but Arkadelphia has some pretty smart kids and that translates onto the field. There have been many moments that they've proven that. It doesn't get mentioned much on here how much success Coach E has had either. He's a great coach with pretty great assistants...the kids are coachable, can't beat that nowadays.

hogfan10

Quote from: Nacho on November 29, 2017, 02:41:10 pm
I'm thankful that this won't happen. It doesn't get brought into conversation much, but Arkadelphia has some pretty smart kids and that translates onto the field. There have been many moments that they've proven that. It doesn't get mentioned much on here how much success Coach E has had either. He's a great coach with pretty great assistants...the kids are coachable, can't beat that nowadays.

I don't mean confusion as in missed assignments. I mean confusion from opposing offenses trickery, like Robinson's game winning touchdown on the double pass.

Nacho


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