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Title: Rumor Mill
Post by: NCcoach on January 15, 2018, 08:53:39 am
Of course I'd like it to be more reliable than a rumor, but......... What job openings do you guys think will happen this off-season?  I'll start by saying I've heard more than once that Deer has a girls coach who is going to get the boot.
Title: Re: Rumor Mill
Post by: 4real on January 16, 2018, 12:24:04 pm
Kinda early for all that stuff...
Unless you got legit resignations, retirements, reassignments already being processed by the boards.
Title: Re: Rumor Mill
Post by: Neckred on January 16, 2018, 12:55:34 pm
Why?
Title: Re: Rumor Mill
Post by: 4real on January 16, 2018, 02:13:32 pm
because of the obvious... most coaches are trying to get through the season.  most schools don't want the negative drama during the most important time of the season due to rumors.  now, when the last game's over, its free game
Title: Re: Rumor Mill
Post by: Neckred on January 16, 2018, 02:16:28 pm
I've seen numerous coaches acting like total bafoons that need fired during the season
Title: Re: Rumor Mill
Post by: 4real on January 16, 2018, 03:06:36 pm
Quote from: Neckred on January 16, 2018, 02:16:28 pm
I've seen numerous coaches acting like total bafoons that need fired during the season
lol  touche
Title: Re: Rumor Mill
Post by: NCcoach on January 17, 2018, 11:06:56 am
I know it's early. That is why it's the Rumor Mill. Lol. I was just wondering if there was any leaked information from the inside around the state.
Title: Re: Rumor Mill
Post by: 4real on January 17, 2018, 11:16:09 am
I am not aware of any pending retirees.  You never know on those deals until season is over.  With the economy being good and the housing market good, you figure there will be several moves take place after spring break into May.
Title: Re: Rumor Mill
Post by: thebigman3 on January 17, 2018, 01:27:41 pm
Quote from: 4real on January 17, 2018, 11:16:09 am
I am not aware of any pending retirees.  You never know on those deals until season is over.  With the economy being good and the housing market good, you figure there will be several moves take place after spring break into May.
Hutchcraft retiring after this year.
Title: Re: Rumor Mill
Post by: 4real on January 17, 2018, 01:52:25 pm
Quote from: thebigman3 on January 17, 2018, 01:27:41 pm
Hutchcraft retiring after this year.
Wish I was a bookie...

I'd be taking bets right now.  If his grandson is a senior, and they win state, sure, i can see that.  Otherwise, I'd bet $1,000 on him still calling the Thunderbird defense next year...
Title: Re: Rumor Mill
Post by: HorseFeathers on January 17, 2018, 06:41:03 pm
Quote from: 4real on January 17, 2018, 01:52:25 pm
Wish I was a bookie...

I'd be taking bets right now.  If his grandson is a senior, and they win state, sure, i can see that.  Otherwise, I'd bet $1,000 on him still calling the Thunderbird defense next year...

Na....hes done...Woulda called it a career last year if his grandson would have been a senior on that team. Would have been a good ending to a long and successful career.
Title: Re: Rumor Mill
Post by: Neckred on January 18, 2018, 08:32:27 am
Quote from: HorseFeathers on January 17, 2018, 06:41:03 pm
Na....hes done...Woulda called it a career last year if his grandson would have been a senior on that team. Would have been a good ending to a long and successful career.
Where does he coach?
Title: Re: Rumor Mill
Post by: 4real on January 18, 2018, 09:48:50 am
You don't know Hutch?  The winingest coach is Arkansas HS history...
Title: Re: Rumor Mill
Post by: 4real on January 18, 2018, 10:16:10 am
Guy-Perkins.  Been there since Dr Naismith invented the game.  Has an auction service and numerous rental properties in the G-P area to accommodate any talented move-ins with the Thunderbird discount.  Has used numerous gimmicks in games throughout the years that are quite entertaining you won't see anywhere else.  One year was state runner up with all underclassmen, the next year had five new starters move in and won state.
Title: Re: Rumor Mill
Post by: Neckred on January 18, 2018, 12:52:32 pm
Quote from: 4real on January 18, 2018, 10:16:10 am
Guy-Perkins.  Been there since Dr Naismith invented the game.  Has an auction service and numerous rental properties in the G-P area to accommodate any talented move-ins with the Thunderbird discount.  Has used numerous gimmicks in games throughout the years that are quite entertaining you won't see anywhere else.  One year was state runner up with all underclassmen, the next year had five new starters move in and won state.
Sounds like a snake
Title: Re: Rumor Mill
Post by: 4real on January 18, 2018, 02:07:33 pm
Maybe so, but he did take a team to NYC back in the 80's, might've been best girls team he ever had, and played host team Christ the King, back in their hayday, and I can't remember if they won,  but I know it was close.  Not many coaches have the fortitude to do so
Title: Re: Rumor Mill
Post by: HorseFeathers on January 18, 2018, 05:59:58 pm
Product of St Charles Arkansas and has coached at Grubbs and Hazen....but been at Guy-Perkins since 1978....12 state championships in 2 sports....
Title: Re: Rumor Mill
Post by: 4real on January 18, 2018, 09:53:32 pm
So you really think he will hang it up?

Gotta be hard for him to walk away
Title: Re: Rumor Mill
Post by: HorseFeathers on January 19, 2018, 06:05:35 am
Quote from: 4real on January 18, 2018, 09:53:32 pm
So you really think he will hang it up?

Gotta be hard for him to walk away

It's what I'm hearing from a usually reliable sourcr....second hand information though....
I agree it's gotta be hard to walk away after 40 years
Title: Re: Rumor Mill
Post by: thebigman3 on January 19, 2018, 10:09:59 am
Quote from: HorseFeathers on January 19, 2018, 06:05:35 am
It's what I'm hearing from a usually reliable sourcr....second hand information though....
I agree it's gotta be hard to walk away after 40 years
I'm sure it will be, and they did not beat that NYC team they lost by 10, but a close 10 if you know what I mean. He also won the overall State Championship in 84 with girls. Honestly, I feel bad for the next man up.. coming in after stats like his puts pressure on ya.
Title: Re: Rumor Mill
Post by: 4real on January 19, 2018, 10:17:39 am
Quote from: thebigman3 on January 19, 2018, 10:09:59 am
I'm sure it will be, and they did not beat that NYC team they lost by 10, but a close 10 if you know what I mean. He also won the overall State Championship in 84 with girls. Honestly, I feel bad for the next man up.. coming in after stats like his puts pressure on ya.
They need a set up guy to replace him.  A clown who doesn't know their role.  Even if for just one year.  Then, they can get someone who will be legit, and would either be willing to kiss the rings on Hutch's fingers for loyalty, or, buy all of Hutch's rental properties.
Title: Re: Rumor Mill
Post by: thebigman3 on January 19, 2018, 10:20:37 am
Quote from: 4real on January 19, 2018, 10:17:39 am
They need a set up guy to replace him.  A clown who doesn't know their role.  Even if for just one year.  Then, they can get someone who will be legit, and would either be willing to kiss the rings on Hutch's fingers for loyalty, or, buy all of Hutch's rental properties.
Well, I mean, I don't know abt all that lol. I want to see a good coach come in and do good, but it does apply pressure on someone who is taking over after a man who's been there.. what? 40 odd years and won the amount of games he's won.
Title: Re: Rumor Mill
Post by: 4real on January 19, 2018, 11:12:18 am
What i'm getting at is... you don't want to be the guy that replaces a legend, unless you know you've got the support of the outgoing legend, and the talent level to win big immediately to keep from looking like a clown.

Normally, you want to be the guy that follows the clown who replaced the legend.  So, long as you have some talent to work with at that point.

I am not speaking in absolutes here, but I cannot think of very many coaches who have been successful after replacing a long time legend.  Coleman has done well at LR Hall after replacing legendary Coach George Cirks, who waited till August of tht year to retire to ensure that Coleman would be able to be promoted from asst to interim HC.

But it is a difficult task.
Title: Re: Rumor Mill
Post by: thebigman3 on January 19, 2018, 01:01:16 pm
Quote from: 4real on January 19, 2018, 11:12:18 am
What i'm getting at is... you don't want to be the guy that replaces a legend, unless you know you've got the support of the outgoing legend, and the talent level to win big immediately to keep from looking like a clown.

Normally, you want to be the guy that follows the clown who replaced the legend.  So, long as you have some talent to work with at that point.

I am not speaking in absolutes here, but I cannot think of very many coaches who have been successful after replacing a long time legend.  Coleman has done well at LR Hall after replacing legendary Coach George Cirks, who waited till August of tht year to retire to ensure that Coleman would be able to be promoted from asst to interim HC.

But it is a difficult task.
I see both sides of it really And yes, he has done well. I just don't want to see a man who doesn't know what they're talking about coaching. I feel like ole Hutch will recommend somebody good cause you know they'll ask him.
Title: Re: Rumor Mill
Post by: HorseFeathers on January 19, 2018, 01:09:19 pm
Quote from: thebigman3 on January 19, 2018, 01:01:16 pm
I see both sides of it really And yes, he has done well. I just don't want to see a man who doesn't know what they're talking about coaching. I feel like ole Hutch will recommend somebody good cause you know they'll ask him.

What about teh guy coaching Jr high boys and girls right now?
Title: Re: Rumor Mill
Post by: Eagle_Mom_2 on January 19, 2018, 01:48:43 pm
Quote from: HorseFeathers on January 19, 2018, 01:09:19 pm
What about teh guy coaching Jr high boys and girls right now?

Sweet Teas. Does a great job. He could take right over for Hutch and keep the ball rolling. If you don't believe me saying he's great, just ask him! Scholar of the game
Title: Re: Rumor Mill
Post by: 4real on January 19, 2018, 02:27:32 pm
Quote from: Eagle_Mom_2 on January 19, 2018, 01:48:43 pm
Sweet Teas. Does a great job. He could take right over for Hutch and keep the ball rolling. If you don't believe me saying he's great, just ask him! Scholar of the game
You have a great sense of humor...  He would be perfect for the scenario i mentioned above
Title: Re: Rumor Mill
Post by: Eagle_Mom_2 on January 19, 2018, 03:04:36 pm
I'll say this...he won't run much of anything more complex or structured than what they do under Hutch. So might actually work. Plus he's worked at about 8 different schools, so a lot of connections on continuing to bring kids in. And that's in all seriousness, joking aside.
Title: Re: Rumor Mill
Post by: ballmember on January 19, 2018, 09:39:35 pm
Daddy Eagle , dont matter how many openings you have,  you have to be able to hire a coach.  You have had some last few years and who did you hire.  West Side is a good school, however too many folks helping run the athletic department.  A good coach not interested in that type operation.  Always have great talent coming up.  Now some of the girls have left. 
Title: Re: Rumor Mill
Post by: riccoar on January 22, 2018, 11:38:15 am
Quote from: ballmember on January 19, 2018, 09:39:35 pm
  West Side is a good school, however too many folks helping run the athletic department. 
If you think that only happens at Westside, you are delusional.  I'd say that's the case at most 1A schools.
Title: Re: Rumor Mill
Post by: FromTheBench on February 06, 2018, 08:28:54 am
Greers Ferry West Side boys and girls jobs going to be open??
Title: Re: Rumor Mill
Post by: Flobbito on February 06, 2018, 01:41:22 pm
Question about Hutch.  When is the last time one of his girls teams was relevant?  I know he has had the talent flowing on the boys side of things, while he still has grandkid's rings to consider, what about the girls though?
Title: Re: Rumor Mill
Post by: 4real on February 06, 2018, 08:35:24 pm
10-11 years
Title: Re: Rumor Mill
Post by: thebigman3 on February 07, 2018, 07:28:37 am
About 4 years ago they made either semis or round before semis and lost to wiener in a close one. That's the time the girls have made state.
Title: Re: Rumor Mill
Post by: Basketballfan13 on February 07, 2018, 12:25:07 pm
Quote from: thebigman3 on February 07, 2018, 07:28:37 am
About 4 years ago they made either semis or round before semis and lost to wiener in a close one. That's the time the girls have made state.
First round game
Title: Re: Rumor Mill
Post by: 4real on February 07, 2018, 08:07:14 pm
Will GP here separate coaches for girls and boys?
Title: Re: Rumor Mill
Post by: thebigman3 on February 08, 2018, 08:58:25 am
Quote from: 4real on February 07, 2018, 08:07:14 pm
Will GP here separate coaches for girls and boys?
Couldn't answer that question... I would hope so.. I would like to see a girls coach coach 7th through 12th and same for the boys.. but I'm not in the position to have a say so in it. So I couldn't tell ya.
Title: Re: Rumor Mill
Post by: NCcoach on February 12, 2018, 11:26:46 pm
Looks like we have Coal Hill and Bruno Pyatt with open coaching positions.
Title: Re: Rumor Mill
Post by: thebigman3 on February 14, 2018, 10:13:31 am
Quote from: NCcoach on February 12, 2018, 11:26:46 pm
Looks like we have Coal Hill and Bruno Pyatt with open coaching positions.
Boys or girls?
Title: Re: Rumor Mill
Post by: Bergman1820 on February 14, 2018, 11:15:31 am
Quote from: thebigman3 on February 14, 2018, 10:13:31 am
Boys or girls?

I think Bruno-Pyatt has a fill in coach for girls and boys, but before they let the previous one go he coached all 4.
Title: Re: Rumor Mill
Post by: shootin3s on February 27, 2018, 12:34:43 pm
Rumor is Eureka Springs girls is open.
Title: Re: Rumor Mill
Post by: 4real on February 27, 2018, 07:04:49 pm
Quote from: Bergman1820 on February 14, 2018, 11:15:31 am
I think Bruno-Pyatt has a fill in coach for girls and boys, but before they let the previous one go he coached all 4.
Who was the coach they let go?  I thought there was a guy that was from there that had been coaching?
Title: Re: Rumor Mill
Post by: ozarkmtnsman on February 27, 2018, 07:30:42 pm
Josh Henley was B-P coach, but was relieved of duties in November. Only had been there a couple of years. Supt. took over rest of season as boys coach.
Title: Re: Rumor Mill
Post by: Bergman1820 on March 01, 2018, 01:15:47 pm
Quote from: ozarkmtnsman on February 27, 2018, 07:30:42 pm
Josh Henley was B-P coach, but was relieved of duties in November. Only had been there a couple of years. Supt. took over rest of season as boys coach.

I think this season was his first at Bruno-Pyatt, but I could be wrong.
Title: Re: Rumor Mill
Post by: ozarkmtnsman on March 02, 2018, 08:19:06 pm
He was at BP for the 16-17 school year also.
Title: Re: Rumor Mill
Post by: Neckred on March 15, 2018, 09:51:02 am
Quote from: ozarkmtnsman on February 27, 2018, 07:30:42 pm
Josh Henley was B-P coach, but was relieved of duties in November. Only had been there a couple of years. Supt. took over rest of season as boys coach.
Dang what did he do?
Title: Re: Rumor Mill
Post by: thebigman3 on April 05, 2018, 10:09:06 am
Quote from: Neckred on March 15, 2018, 09:51:02 am
Dang what did he do?
Never win a game lol
Title: Re: Rumor Mill
Post by: basketballfreak on April 18, 2018, 07:41:00 am
Quote from: shootin3s on February 27, 2018, 12:34:43 pm
Rumor is Eureka Springs girls is open.

Anymore news on this job?